Trump DOE executive order, DEI funding battle, NC Supreme Court seat open, Black voter briefing

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Speaker 1 (00:21):
Folks.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Today's Thursday Mark twenty, twenty twenty five coming up on
rolland marked Unfiltered streaming live on the black Star Network
that twice in Peach's criminally convicted felon in Chief Donald
the Kahn Trump signed an executive order today calling for
the shutdown of the US Department of Education. The signature
doesn't mean much, since abolishing a federal agency requires an

(00:44):
Act of Congress, but it certainly has ramifications and we'll
talk about those. North Carolina's Intermediate level Appeals Court will
hear arguments about the still unsettled November election for a
state Supreme Court seat. The Republican lost and he simply
can't accept the fact that Democrat Allison Riggs won the post.

(01:06):
For Terres Woodberry will be joining us talking about kid
Strategy's latest data on what happened during the twenty twenty
four election when he came.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
To black voters.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Louisiana activist Gary Chambers will join us to talk about
the proposed constitutional amendments regarding courts, taxes, juvenile treatments in
the colninal justice system, and elections for judges. Appearing on
the March twenty ninth ballot MAGA wants to.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Really control things in Louisiana.

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Plus another historic march madness winn for an HBCU, this
time the Southern University women's basketball team winning their first
ever tournament game. Folks, it's a lot to break down
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Speaker 1 (01:50):
Let's go.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
On.

Speaker 4 (01:55):
What he's right on?

Speaker 5 (02:01):
Time is rolling?

Speaker 4 (02:03):
Best believe he's going.

Speaker 6 (02:06):
Loston mist to politics with entertainment, just bookcakes.

Speaker 7 (02:11):
He's going.

Speaker 8 (02:18):
It's rolling.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
He's broke Spress, she's real.

Speaker 7 (02:29):
The question, No, he's rolling, folks.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
This is the twice in peach criminally convicted felon in
chief Donald the Cohn Trumps signing an executive order to
facilitate the rights long standing goal of eliminating the Department
of Education.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
That was always the goal of.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
The Republicans and product between twenty five and so that's
what they're doing, doing a ceremony in the East Room.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
Of the White House.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
This idiot Trump signed the order while flanked on each
side by school children seated at desk. While the order
recognizes that it would take an Act of Congress to
completely shutter the department, Trump directed Education Secretary Linda McMahon
to do all she can to achieve that goal. The
con man said, the department will preserve useful functions like

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pell Grant's Title I funding and programs for students with disabilities.
Do we have any audio of him talking? If you
got anything, just go ahead and roll it, all right.
So here's the deal. They're gonna sit here, and what

(03:52):
they're doing is again they want to completely gut the department.
They've already laid off half of the employees. This is
what they have always done and what they want to do.
And again, this is what their goal has always been.
My pound, doctor Nola Haynes. She is Georgetown University, School
of Foreign Service, out of d C. Political says social
media political activists out of the Nightdale, North Carolina Recy COVID,

(04:16):
host of the recent COVID show series X and Radio
out of Washington, d C.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Recy. I'll start with you.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
I mean, bottom line is this here, this is always
what they wanted to achieve. They are blaming the Federal
Department of Education for the problem with education. I'm here
in Texas right now, and in fact I'm going to
We're gonna have also on the show. I got a
chance to chat with state Representative Jelanda Jones and we

(04:42):
talked about a couple of things. We talked about the
voucher scam bill here in Texas, and we also talked
about the Texas Education Agency takeover of the Houston Independent
School District.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
But here's the whole deal.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Ninety percent of the funding in America for school state local.
So this idea that the problem with education is all
because of the Department of Education is right wing fiction.

Speaker 9 (05:10):
Mm hmm, well yeah, I mean the right wing education
system has created the problem with us having lower literacy scores,
lower math scores.

Speaker 10 (05:22):
Compared to other industrialized nation.

Speaker 9 (05:24):
Look, this is about undoing the progress since Brown VORSUS
Board of Education. This is about creating separate and unequal
It is about creating a cast system, or not creating,
but entrenching a cast system in which wealthier people get
to send their school kids to better schools in which
under privilege, and I use that in air quotes, underprivileged

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kids have no recourse for under investment in their areas
and their schools, where kids who have disabilities do not
have any recourse, and ensuring that they have equal access
to education whether that be learning to leaders or physical disabilities.
And so this is about making it harder for the
playing field to be leveled through education. It's also about

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eroding the middle class. It's about taking away investments like
what Biden Harris did by expanding public student loan forgiveness
and other student loan forgiveness programs.

Speaker 10 (06:20):
And so this is a.

Speaker 9 (06:21):
Full on assault on all of the mechanisms that have
been put in place over decades to make education slightly
more equitable in this country. The way to make more
progress is not to undo the progress that's been made,
but it's to double down on it.

Speaker 10 (06:37):
And this is the exact opposite of that.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Nola people really need to understand. And again, all of
these crazy to range people on the right, they literally
have no clue. They don't even understand that the states
that benefit the most from the field Department of Education
are red states like Tennessee, South Carolina, Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas.

(07:04):
So they just want to just go ahead and cut
their noses off despite their face.

Speaker 11 (07:11):
Who I am burning, burning, burning, burning up about this issue.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
I knew it was coming.

Speaker 11 (07:16):
It's here, you know, as an educator, this is definitely
something that my chats have been going off about all day,
but I've been thinking a lot about this in that
same context Roland, but also in the context of politics.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
Last night I did a.

Speaker 11 (07:32):
Live and I had a question asked about what is
a populist, What does populism mean, and what does it
mean when people say that Donald Trump is a populist.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
Basically, at the end of the day, it.

Speaker 11 (07:43):
Benefits a populist, want to be dictator, want to be autocrat,
to have an uneducated permanent class that benefits him.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
It.

Speaker 11 (07:54):
Msnbcated a very interesting did some interesting polling today around
white voters, and to no one shock, most of Trump's
supporters were white males who were uneducated. That shocks no one.
And while more white women do not support Donald Trump,
the ones that do are have not received at the
very least a four year a four year degree. So

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this is all part of the playbook. There's nothing new here.
Donald Trump is not reinventing the will. And it's very
easy to convince people that those coastal elites, those Northerners.
And I can't tell you how many times I've been
hearing that lately. I feel like I've been transported in
some sort of time machine and we've gone backwards in time,

(08:38):
like people actually using terms like Yankees and Northerners.

Speaker 4 (08:41):
What where are we?

Speaker 11 (08:43):
But anyway, my point is they are genuinely convinced that
education routes, that we are the permanent enemy, and somehow
that they are in on something, that they know something
that we don't know, that they have the authentic information
that we do not have, all part of a larger scheme.

(09:04):
It's not a shock to no one, but it really
is the populist, autocratic dictator playbook. It benefits them to
have a very under educated base. And to Reese's points,
absolutely this is also about undoing everything that had anything
to do with civil rights.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Publical sis.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
You're in North Carolina and the same thing we talk
about education resources, oversight of the ability to be able
to collect data. That's the other thing. Uh, they don't
want to collect data. So when you talk about inequities,
when you talk about the issues that we have, when
you don't have the data, then you don't even know

(09:48):
what the hell is going on. You don't even know
how do you achieve parody because they don't want that. Uh,
they just sort of throw up these phrases, We're just
going to send them money to the states. But these
same states right wingers, they don't want the data. They
don't want to be able to be able to know
what the inequities are.

Speaker 12 (10:09):
And what we do know here in North Carolina, one
point six billion of federal funding from the Department of
Education comes here, and we know that affects kids for
Title ie IDA, kids with disability, and we also know
that the kids that are going to be affected the
most about all of this is kids that live in
rural areas. That is a data that we have right now.

(10:31):
So also don't forget about federal loans grants. So we're
talking about community colleges.

Speaker 8 (10:37):
We're also talking.

Speaker 12 (10:38):
About how this is going to impact teachers on a
community college level, which I work at a community college,
so I think I want to go back. I may
be moving too far ahead. But when Chuck Schumer what
he did, this is why I say, with all due respect,

(11:00):
let the motherfucker burn. That's how I look at it,
because we have said this is what's going to happen.

Speaker 8 (11:07):
It is going to impact us the most.

Speaker 12 (11:10):
But it seems like the only day of way that
this country is going to pay attention is if this
country falls a little.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Well, listen, people need to understand what is going on.
This is going to get to you and there's going
to need more of this. And I'm gonna say it again, Recie,
I don't care what anybody says. We understand, we know
what's going on. Black people are very clear. White folk
are going to have to get pissed off and outrage
for them to understand what's really at stake. Because that

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was an analysis done on MSNBC seventy one percent of
the electorate in the twenty twenty four election, and we're
going to talk about this with war with Terrence Woodbury.
Seventy one percent of the twenty twenty four letter was white.

Speaker 10 (12:05):
Yep. Well, and they are starting to get pissed off.

Speaker 9 (12:08):
But the question is will that translate into a change
in the shift in voting patterns? Will that cause some
of them to stay home if they can't hold their
nose and vote for Democrats?

Speaker 10 (12:18):
Will that start? Will that cause some of them to
shift in the.

Speaker 9 (12:20):
Way that people like to pretend like black people shifting
from the Republican Party to the Democratic Party was all
some mindless zombieism that we were infected by as opposed
to an act of self preservation. What the Republicans have shown,
and I've said this many times, is that they are
waging war on white people. Black people are the byproduct.

(12:41):
We are the collateral damage of it. But this is
really about redistributing wealth. It is about cutting off the
ability to that that ability to climb the ladder, the
income ladder, the educational ladder, because it's more of them
than there are of us. And they this is going
to impact states where we're not very well represented in

(13:02):
Black people ain't in but six seven, eighteen places, okay,
And we have a big ass country where there are
not us in those spaces that are going to be harmed.
As political says said, rural areas is going to be impacted.
And guess we know we have black people in rural areas,
but a lot of this country is rural and very
very white. The Appalachia is very very white. And so
when they realize that they have to stop selling our

(13:25):
civil rights, meaning black people and people of color civil
rights and LGBTQ people civil rights down the river so
that they can feel like they have some more power
and authority. When they realize that that bargain that they're
making with the Republican Party is hurting them more than anything.

Speaker 10 (13:41):
Maybe we'll see you change it.

Speaker 9 (13:42):
In the In the meantime, we got to buckle up
and ride this as best as we can.

Speaker 10 (13:48):
Like we always have.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Political says.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
You're seeing in North Carolina, all these white folks who
voted for Trump. What did he do when it came
to auditional hurricane relief? Same as in Georgia. You are mute,
You're mute.

Speaker 8 (14:13):
I'm so sorry.

Speaker 12 (14:14):
And he's ready to slash uh funding now when it
comes to hurricane funding, he's ready to slash that right now.
I know our Governor Josh Stein just signed the bill
that is directing money towards hurricane victims because we're still
suffering from that. But yeah, it's going to be a
great impact. They do not see it yet. Some are
seeing it, but like Reese said, it's a matter of

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how many people, how long is it going to take?
And with all the respect, when I say, let this
shit just fall, because they.

Speaker 8 (14:44):
Don't get it.

Speaker 12 (14:44):
They still think here in North Carolina, which is a
purpose state, they still think that it is going to
affect us the most. Like like Reese said, in royal errors.
The majority of people that live in royal errors are white,
poor white folks who a lot of them don't have transportation.
By the way, so good luck with private schools on
getting your there.

Speaker 10 (15:03):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
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of civilized society. This is all about oligarchs, it's all
about the rich, it's all about billionaires, it's all about
white suburban communities. And folks had better understand that as
best as they can and got to go to break.

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So, folks, folks, I'm here in Texas. Yesterday I was
in Austin the state Capitol where there was a conversation
on the floor regarding the issue of DEI.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Now let's be clear.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
When MAGA talks about DEI, we know it's a dog wheels,
so they mean black. The discussion is taking place on
nationally with the idiots in Washington, d C. But you're
seeing it happen on the state level, the county level,
the city level as well.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
One of the truly.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Dumbest individuals in the Texas State House is Brian Harrison,
this white nationalist. His mission is to remove all diversity,
equity and inclusion funding across Texas agencies. It's being met
by resistance from Democrats and some Republicans. So here's this

(18:24):
fool Harrison, explaining why he is leading the DEI budget
slashing efforts in Texas.

Speaker 15 (18:34):
Am a liberty person. We have gotten far away from
the principles and the values that made our state and
our country grade of limited government, low taxes, low regulations,
maximum individual freedom, free markets, private property rights. And here's
what I can never and I wish I ever elected
Republican remember this as government expands, liberty shrinks. My name

(18:58):
is Brian Harrison. I'm really proud to represent and hundreds
of thousands of Texans in the Texas House of Representatives,
a position that I've held for about three years, ever
since I returned home to my home state, the Date
of Texas, where I grew up right on the heels
of serving President Trump. I was in his administration for
the first term. So when I came home to Texas
and ran for office here and got elected, I was

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in absolute shock to learn that the state of Texas
not only still has DEI, but that we are funding
DEI programs to the tune of billions of dollars. You know,
when I got elected, I was excited to lock arms
with all these elected Republicans in Texas because I believed
every elected Republican in Texas was fighting as hard for
freedom and liberty as those of us in the Trump

(19:39):
administration were, and I was shocked to learn that while
we have a reputation for freedom and liberty, in many ways,
we're just coasting on that reputation. I said, I can't
I'm not going to sit here, I'm not going to
be silent, and I'm going to cut this off.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
At the source.

Speaker 15 (19:52):
And I think the best way to do that is
to starve it by cutting off all the funds that
are going to DEI. Because my constituents, they're already over tagged,
many of them are being taxed out of their homes,
and the last thing they want their hard earned tax
money going to pay for is woke, Marxist, facially discriminatory
DEI policies. I think it violates the plain language of

(20:13):
Title six and Title seven of the nineteen sixty four
Civil Rights Act, And depending on how these various DEI
policies are being implemented, it is absolutely clear that it
is illegal to discriminate against people on the basis of
their race or on the basis of their gender. And
some of these programs that I have uncovering, including.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
I'm sorry I could I couldn't listen to morened bullshit.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Now this is the individual.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Remember we played the video of the sister who was
the chair of the Texas Water Development Board. Remember we
played the video, Well, remember when she broke down in
tears because she was being defended by a black State Rep.
Brian Harrison was the asshole who was questioning her. So

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just understand what we're what we're dealing with here. And
you know, this is a moment of Nola where I
really need African Americans not not to play this BS
game that these people love. Cause let's be real clear.
With the impeccable credentials of Supreme Court Justice Katanji Brown Jackson,

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they call her a dee I higher. You can be
a black woman or a black man who's the CEO
of a fortune five hundred company, they're gonna call you
a DEI higher. And so here's what we do. And
I get it. The natural reflex for many of us
is to defend our selves by citing our credentials. I
have this degree, I have this degree. And then what

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we do is we fall into the same trap of
I went to Harvard, I went to Yale.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
These white races. It doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
You could literally sit there and say I have three
PhDs as a rocket scientists, and they're gonna say you're
still a DEEI higher. So we need to be fortifying
black folk to first of all, say, with all of
the chick all of your chests kissed my ass, I'm

(22:15):
not about to start reciting my credentials to white racists
who have no respect for the credentials, because they're gonna say, oh, well,
you got into college, you got a scholarship, you got
these things.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
I told you. I told you all the story of
my sister.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
They were at a baseball game or a soccer game
or something, and she mentioned her son got a scholarship
to seat to Seaton Hall, and one of the white
women went, well, my blonde haired daughter, like, it's not
gonna get one of those. My sister said, well, guess what.
At the welcome reception, it was a whole lot of
other blonde haired, blue eyed kids who were there with

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their parents. So maybe your daughter needs to study harder.
That's the kind of energy we have to fire back
at these folks because they don't care, they don't see
white mediocrity in their minds. I mean everybody who's watching
and lesting to understand in their minds, any job that

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a black person has, they believe that's their job. They
believe that they they were taking it. Remember the white girl,
Abigail Fisher who sued the University of Texas and then
when they went to Supreme Court, they discovered that, oh,
black and latinos didn't take your spot. It was other

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white kids who had less creditials than she did. And
that's just how they think. So you're never going to
get one of these white races to go, oh, you
know what, You're right, you are talented, you do have
the credentials. So we just need to fortify our people
to not always go into that mode of will let

(23:59):
me if I can show them and prove to them
how smart I am with all my creditals.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
They white racists don't care.

Speaker 4 (24:07):
No, they don't. The credentialing game does not work.

Speaker 11 (24:11):
It absolutely does not work, because to your point, it's
not about that we can go.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
You know, I was listening.

Speaker 11 (24:18):
I could only listen to him for so long before
I muted him. But what was so interesting about what
he was trying to sell the people in Texas is
this idea of liberty and freedom. That is when I
talk about the playbook. There is nothing new in a playbook.
There is a situation in history when Benjamin Franklin went

(24:38):
to France trying to get them to fund our war
against Britain, right so we could so called have our freedom.
France repeatedly remind them, y'all have slaves.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
Though, So this idea.

Speaker 11 (24:54):
Of freedom and liberty has never replied to anybody here
that looks like us.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
We have never been included in that right. So freedom
and liberty to them.

Speaker 11 (25:05):
Means to operate with with without impunity, you know what
I'm saying. And so for them, diversity, equity and inclusion
holds up a little tiny mirror, just a tiny bit
to show them that things have not been fair. And
that is an uncomfortable notion for a lot of the

(25:27):
Magas to sit with.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
Right.

Speaker 11 (25:30):
And you know you had you had mentioned earlier, or
we had a conversation earlier before we went to break
about you know, MAGA. They are so conditioned that thirty
five percent is so conditioned. They are so conditioned to
believe all the talking points that any black person in
any job does not deserve it any brown person they

(25:50):
see anywhere must be an illegal immigrant, and that somehow
they are the victims and they are oppressed. They get
a steady diet of this. Those people are gone. They
are beyond radicalize. This is a lifestyle, this is a culture.
They are gone. I'm not interested in trying to meet

(26:11):
them where they are. It's not going to happen. And
I'm not going to waste my time, my energy, my
lip gloss.

Speaker 10 (26:17):
I'm not.

Speaker 4 (26:18):
They are a.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
Dundeal, political pluck, political says. You know.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
I reference this this NBC pole, NBC pole a little
bit earlier, and they talked about where white voters stand
and the group that loves Donald Trump's the most, or
white men with no college degrees. The second group that
loves him or white women with no college degrees. Now
white men with college degree, it's like plus one or

(26:48):
plus two percent. But the group that it hates him
the most is really white women with a college degree.
When you talk about DEI guess what white men with
no college degree number one who wants to get rid
of it? White women with no college degree number two.
In a large number, white men with college degrees wants
to get rid of it. What's the group that the

(27:10):
only group of white America that actually supports DEI white
women with college degrees, because white women with college degrees
have been the greatest beneficiary of affirmative action programs. But
here's the thing that I find to be interesting in
political sist and maybe maybe you. So we got an
all female panel here, can.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
Y'all help me out?

Speaker 2 (27:30):
I don't see a lot of these white women defending diversity,
equity and inclusion, do y'all?

Speaker 8 (27:38):
Well, listen, keep in mind.

Speaker 12 (27:39):
I mean there's a lot of Go ahead, I'm so sorry,
go ahead, we see.

Speaker 10 (27:43):
Oh no, no, no, it's you.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
You're up neck, Okay, little consists, go ahead.

Speaker 12 (27:48):
Have you have white women who I think their focus
is they just want to focus.

Speaker 8 (27:56):
On their husbands?

Speaker 12 (27:57):
Right, forget about me, because like you said, it's the
majority of white women who focus on.

Speaker 8 (28:02):
Keeping DEI or white women with education.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
Right.

Speaker 12 (28:06):
So, I mean, when you look at the people who
came out and voted for Trump, a lot was white
women in rural areas.

Speaker 8 (28:12):
That is how that's what we saw.

Speaker 12 (28:14):
In North Carolina, right, And these women walk around here
with no damn teeth in their mouth, oxygen takes and
shit weren't about their husbands. And their husbands, by the way,
are veterans, right, They're veterans who now they're finding out
guess what their assets benefit from benefited from the EI.
So again it goes right back to letting that damn
ship sell.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
I mean go down, Yeah, I mean re see bottom
line as is here. These attacks on DEI are about
attacking the economic the economic uh independence, if you will,
and the economic infrastructure of Black America.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
That's what this is all about.

Speaker 9 (29:00):
First of all, fuck then we got to explain our
credentals to them. They'll never be satisfied anyway, but we are.

Speaker 10 (29:07):
Obligated to correct the record. So when this fuck.

Speaker 9 (29:10):
Face Harrison is saying that a billion dollars is spent
on DEI, it's not a billion dollars spent on DEI.
When there are contracts that have DII provisions, which, by
the way, as you pointed out Roland, tend to go
to white women because white women are considered minorities. So
women own businesses and things like that. That is a provision,

(29:32):
but the services rendered are not DEI services. If a
white woman has an asphalt laying company, or a Latino
business has lays roofs, or a black business is providing
engineering services.

Speaker 10 (29:47):
Those are not DEI services.

Speaker 9 (29:48):
Those are standard services provided by people who are not
white men. So to your point, Roland, this is about
attacking the leveling of the playing field. This is about
the fact that these white folks do not believe that
any of us should have anything. They really don't believe
that each other should have anything. They just believe that
they alone should have the resources. So it's not even

(30:11):
about that they want white people to get ahead.

Speaker 10 (30:13):
They want to get ahead.

Speaker 9 (30:14):
Because when white people are given the opportunity to support
their own brethren and sister and with health care expanding
Medicaid being one of those things, with shoring up social security,
with environmental protections, with higher minimum wage, they still give
their votes to Republicans. So it's not even just a
matter they don't want us to have anything. They want

(30:36):
to keep everything for themselves. And I don't think that's
a problem we can solve, but we can correct the record.

Speaker 11 (30:44):
No, it is an economic it is an economic situation,
and it's an economic situation, and it's also the fact
of how dare we we shouldn't be in this conversation
a black man shouldn't have his own network, I shouldn't

(31:04):
have my PhD reces shouldn't have our own show.

Speaker 4 (31:07):
Politics shouldn't be here.

Speaker 11 (31:09):
It is this correction of a record that they believe
that they have been aggrieved. Probably since the Civil War,
there's been some very interesting kind of migration tracking that's
been going on, talking about how the white southern migration,
how we had a lot of those folks on the
west coast, like in Colorado and all those different places,

(31:30):
you know, during the gold Rush and all those different things,
and so how you have a lot of those sentiments
that kind of that didn't creep northern, but they crept
more westward. And how we are having a resurgence of
this kind of you know, we got to get the
south back kind of mentality. And then you have these

(31:50):
people that are kind of like spread all throughout the
country and then also in the middle part of the country.
And it's this resurgence of whiteness that goes all the
way back to civil rights days where a bulk of
them truly believe that we still belong in chains. So
dismantling diversity equi and inclusion, dismantling critical race theory, weaponizing

(32:13):
wokeism has everything to do with what that congress person
was talking about in Texas about their concept of freedom
and liberty. So to say that it's an economic argument, absolutely, absolutely,
it's an economic argument in that they claim us forgetting
our freedom and messing up their cotton, messing up their

(32:35):
generational wealth. So how dare we want to equal or
level the playing field in any regard because they don't
believe that we're supposed to be here at all anyway
in the first place.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Well, folks, we often talk about again, we often talk
about we often talk about the the results of voting
or not voting, and we.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
Show this over and over and over again.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
And when we talk about what's happening in the nation's capital,
turnout actually went down.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
There were people who decided to stay at home.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
We talked about that story of the New York Times
where they talked to a thirty nine year old black
woman in Milwaukee, battleground state, who said, well, I thought
Trump was gonna win, so therefore I just didn't vote.
But now she's a teacher, teacher, ad now she's complaining.
So of course they're shutting down the Department education or
trying to which is gonna impact her. But she actually
chose not to vote because well, she just thought that
he was going to win.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Louisiana. Same thing.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Significant number of black people in massive black population in Louisiana,
and a lot of those.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
Folks didn't vote.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
And that's how Maga Governor Jeff Landry, the previously Attorney
General Sali won. So guess what inn days, Fords of
Louisiana have another election. They're in this side on four
proposed constitutional amendments for the state constitution. The changes concerned

(34:11):
the courts, taxes, juvenile treatment, and the criminal justice system
and elections for judges. Actually, Gary Chambers joins us right
now from baton rouge. Gary, glad to have you here.
So before we walk through again these amendments, and we
know what happens. This is what some call an off election,

(34:33):
and so these things typically pass because there is absolute.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
Small, small, small turnout.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Are you seeing any signs that black people in Louisiana
are waking the hell up?

Speaker 14 (34:50):
Well, thank you for being a part of this conversation.

Speaker 16 (34:53):
As always, rolling you elevate our voices Hee in Louisiana.

Speaker 14 (34:57):
But yes, I just finished a wide.

Speaker 16 (35:00):
Tour with the power coalition going to Shreveport, Lake Charles,
the River Parishes, New Orleans, and my hometown of Van
Rouge to stimulate the conversation around these taxes, around this
juvenile justice amendment that would allow more juveniles to be
incarcerated as juveniles in the adult penitentiary. Not a single

(35:20):
one of these policies is a benefit to the people
of this state, and we have been moving the conversation
to make sure that people knew about it. I hope
that if a sleeper election gets five to ten percent
more people to show up that say no to all
four of these amendments, that before the legislative session starts,
that will send a message to the government and the
legislature that these policies are not the direction that the

(35:42):
people in this state desire to go in.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
And let's be clear, Jeff Landry wants to lock up
more black people. And when he was Attorney general, didn't
he want to release or make public the juvenile records
of folks. It was only what two counties, the largest
two black counties in the two passions, largest two black

(36:08):
parsishes in the state.

Speaker 16 (36:10):
Absolutely, there was a policy that he was pushing as
Attorney General.

Speaker 14 (36:14):
As well as as governor.

Speaker 16 (36:16):
In his first special session, he already made it, passed
laws and signed into law more policies that would allow
juveniles to go from juvenile penitentiaries to adult facilities.

Speaker 14 (36:28):
He is building more juvenile prisons as we speak.

Speaker 16 (36:31):
There's putting millions of dollars to the side to build
juvenile detention facilities. This governor has been a disaster for
young people in the state of Louisiana since the day
that he took the oath of office. And I think
that a lot of folks thought that things would be
different or slept on the election, and now they're going
to end up paying the consequence. But you have the
ability to slow them down at the ballot Right now.

(36:53):
Early voting is actually going on now through Saturday, and
if people are showing up at the posed, they understand that.

Speaker 14 (36:59):
You know.

Speaker 16 (37:00):
So Number two is about taxes rolling. They want to
take one hundred one point seven billion dollars out of
our revenue stabilization fund and move that money somewhere else.
They want to tax whether or not you get taxes
on takeout orders.

Speaker 14 (37:17):
There's a whole host of things that poor folks will end.

Speaker 16 (37:20):
Up paying more money in taxes because they want to
give a flat tax and they're going to give this
impression that teachers are going to get a pay raise.
They're giving it an impression that you're going to get
more money in your paycheck.

Speaker 14 (37:30):
But at the end of the day, if the tax.

Speaker 16 (37:32):
Rate is taxing more things in sales taxes, poor people
are paying more taxes out of this tax plane.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
All right, So walk us through these four and from
your point of view, how should voters, especially black voters,
be voting on each one of these constitutional amendments.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
Just take us through one through four.

Speaker 16 (37:53):
So number one, rolling is about out of state lawyers
being able to be penalized by the judiciary system here.

Speaker 14 (38:00):
Gisanna allowing the state.

Speaker 16 (38:01):
Supreme Court here in Louisiana to penalize out of state lawyers.

Speaker 14 (38:05):
That would be a problem for people like being crump.

Speaker 16 (38:08):
And leemeritive people decided they wanted to make bar complaints
against them as they come in and fight on cases
like the Ronald Green case and other cases for civil
rights that folks have been involved with were trying to bring.

Speaker 14 (38:19):
Justice in this state.

Speaker 16 (38:21):
Constitutional amendment number two. And to be clear on number one,
if you are an out of state lawyer, and you
violate our policies, there's already a procedure to go through
to penalize those lawyers. Number two is a complete restructure
of our tax system here in Louisiana. Now, we do
have a broken tax system here in the state of Louisiana.

Speaker 14 (38:40):
We have the highest sales taxes in the country.

Speaker 16 (38:42):
But this would give us a reduction in income taxes
in some ways, but that reduction would end up in
higher sales taxes.

Speaker 14 (38:50):
Than we already have.

Speaker 16 (38:52):
And we know that people who are poorer or have
less money will be impacted by that more so. If
you make three hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year
and this tax plan goes into place, you may not
feel anything other than more money in your bank account.
But if you make fifty sixty thousand dollars a year
and they're taxing your takeout services, they're taxing your subscriptions,
they're taxing more things, these things will cost you more

(39:14):
money in the end because of the sales.

Speaker 8 (39:16):
Tax that's attached to what is going on.

Speaker 16 (39:18):
The Other aspect of this is there's a myth in
this plan where they're saying that teachers are gonna get
a pay raise. Well, the reality is it's a stipend
that they're making permanent. It's not a raise or any
extra money that teachers are gonna get. But they're using
that as a way to try to manipulate teachers into
supporting this when at the end of the day, they're.

Speaker 14 (39:37):
Moving protection protected.

Speaker 16 (39:39):
Funds into a different category. In K through twelve education
Number three is extremely egregious rolling because number three gives
the ability to give more penalties that they.

Speaker 14 (39:51):
Will incarcerate juveniles for now. If you're juvenile and you.

Speaker 16 (39:54):
Commit murder, rape, for certain violent crimes, you.

Speaker 14 (39:57):
Already will be charged as an adult.

Speaker 16 (39:59):
This would take the constitution that allowed them to take
those charges out of the constitution. And so if a
kid is at school, the kid happens to pick up
his friend's.

Speaker 14 (40:08):
Cell phone, they say they stole a cell phone. A
kid steals a cell phone, that kid could be then
charged as an adult for a five hundred dollars theft.
In any situation, depending on the.

Speaker 16 (40:18):
Parish that you're in, and so looking at communities like
where I'm from in Baton Rouge, you may have in
New Orleans, you may have somebody who's more progressive, but
if you are in Washington Parish, if you are in
Rapid's Parish, if you are in Placamus's Paris, Louisiana, those
outcomes may be different for you when you encounter the

(40:40):
judicial system, and those kids can end up in the
Angola Penitentiary. And the fourth Constitutional Amendment gives the ability
for racist for judge to happen sooner if a vacancy
happens on the judiciary. The reason that's a problem is
a sleeper election just like this one would be able
to elect judges when instead of putting them on the

(41:03):
largest turnout election to come.

Speaker 14 (41:05):
So you got an election that just happened.

Speaker 16 (41:07):
For a state senator here in Louisiana where nine point
five percent of the people in the district showed up
to vote in that election. Another district where fourteen percent
of the people showed up to vote in that election.

Speaker 14 (41:18):
There are people in power who want.

Speaker 16 (41:20):
These low turnout elections because they get to determine who
wins those races.

Speaker 14 (41:25):
That is not good for democracy, It is not good
for the judiciary. It is not good for justice or
the people of Louisiana.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Roland questions for my pound political says, you're first.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
Political says, can you hear me? Okay? Okay, you aren't mute?

Speaker 2 (41:48):
You you got to remember to take your mic off
mute so you're mute.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
There you go go ahead.

Speaker 8 (41:53):
Can you hear me, Darren to meet you.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
Yep, we got you, We got you.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
Okay.

Speaker 12 (42:01):
A reference to Amendment three, seventy nine percent of juveniles
and secure.

Speaker 8 (42:07):
Settings meaning like a detention center.

Speaker 12 (42:09):
That is what they're Black men, black young boys versus
what fourteen percent of white And it's the same around
the high percentage points when it comes to non secure settings,
like in the custodial settings.

Speaker 8 (42:23):
This is directed at young black boys. This is directed
at young black boys.

Speaker 12 (42:30):
How can we get this message out to our black
folks in Louisiana.

Speaker 8 (42:36):
I'm sorry about the mut buddy.

Speaker 14 (42:38):
Well, this is a part of the conversation for us.
That's why we did these town halls all over the state.
That's why we're glad rolling this year.

Speaker 16 (42:45):
I saw Sheriff Susan Hudson in New Orleans at the
Super Sunday this last Sunday talking to thousands of people
in New Orleans about the need to get out and
voting in this election. People are sounding the alarm that
this is happening. We just need as many people around
the country helping echo that so that people in this
state pay attention to what's going on. We believe that

(43:06):
this is a critical junction for us as a community,
as a state, because this is the opportunity to reject
the policies that this legislature.

Speaker 14 (43:13):
Continues to try to jam down our throats.

Speaker 16 (43:16):
We know that this would target young black men and
listen as somebody who was expelled in the third grade,
the fifth grade, the sixth grade, and the seventh grade.
If it wasn't for a village who was there to
surround me and support me, I would not be here.
If these policies were in place in Louisiana when I
was twelve years old, then I would have ended.

Speaker 14 (43:35):
Up deep in the justice system, and who knows where
my life would have ended up.

Speaker 16 (43:40):
And so this is personal for me because I wasn't
a good rosy kid. I was one of the kids
who got in trouble and got put out of school.
Who today is somebody better in my community because there
was a village to love me.

Speaker 11 (43:54):
Thank you, Noah, thank you Gary, thank you so much
for doing this work. It's so important and you know,
being born and raised in New Orleans and especially under
the morel regime. I'm a political scientist today because I
came up in that environment where people were active and
engaged in politics. So my question to you, and I've

(44:15):
been wanting to have this conversation with you for a
very long time, is about demographic shift and change. As
we've been having this conversation about why people have become
disinterested in voting in Louisiana, which again my growing up.

Speaker 4 (44:28):
My experience was so different.

Speaker 11 (44:30):
And every time I go home and I talk to friends,
and I see the neighborhood shift, you know, you see
the changes the sixth ward, the seventh ward, don't look
the way that it used to, you know. And you
will hear people talk about Hurricane Katrina being this turning
point in that I know in my own family, a
lot of people left right because the city just completely

(44:52):
just fell apart. We couldn't trust our politicians, crime, you know, escalated,
all these different things. Is some of this what we
are seeing, this kind of apathy regarding voting, Does it
have something to do with demographic shift? Because I've really
been trying to figure out, like, what was that major

(45:12):
shift from the eighties to now. You know, and I
know that that's a big time time time span, But constantly,
every time I go home, people will always talk about
Katrina being a defining moment where a lot of Louisiana
shifted and change, And I'm just curious, would you agree
or disagree with that?

Speaker 16 (45:34):
I think that that is an interesting perspective. I definitely
think that demographic shifts impact the culture of the vote
at the time. It definitely impacts who's stimulating the conversation
and how that moves. I think we have enough black
folks in this state that we could be turning out.
What I think impacts us the most is a level

(45:57):
of disenchantment that turns to resentment, and that resentment turns
to apathy. If my elected leaders continue to ignore the
issues that are most important to me, the same way
Chuck Schumer is ignoring the majority of his base right
now saying that they want to see a fighter, then
the only way a voter can make a politician pay

(46:18):
is not to support them, to support another candidate, or
not to show up. If they feel like you aren't
showing up for them in a meaningful way, then why
should they show up?

Speaker 14 (46:27):
To vote, and there's.

Speaker 16 (46:28):
A lot of people who feel like government is not
impacting my life in the ways that I would like
to see it. So therefore I am not going to
participate in the process that is not benefiting me. Now,
is that a perspective that is beneficial to us as
a collective. No, because there's a whole host of things
that government is doing that we need to be contingent.

(46:51):
We need to be consistently fighting to make sure this
stays in place, such as our civil rights that.

Speaker 14 (46:55):
Are now being a rolled away.

Speaker 16 (46:57):
However, for young people who have no connectivity to a
lot of these things, and for people who are disconnected
from the process, civil rights are not the.

Speaker 14 (47:05):
Number one issue for them.

Speaker 16 (47:06):
Economic rights are, and we are not as a collective
putting a grip on an economic policy for our community
in a way that I think makes them bite the
bullet and show up.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
RACI thank you, Gary.

Speaker 9 (47:23):
I appreciate the work that you do, and you're the
name I always invoke when I talk about how we
have the capacity to make the difference in these elections.
Can talk a little bit about the amendment around the
judiciary and how this is part of a pattern we're
seeing around Republicans to take away the self governance, the

(47:44):
ability to have a judiciary actions be influenced by electeds
that people are electing locally as opposed to statewide or
appointed judiciary oversight that this amendment would help shift the

(48:04):
balance of power away from are away too sorry.

Speaker 16 (48:08):
I'll give you an example here in Baton Rouge, Black
Democrats in the last two election cycles became the majority
of the judges in the nineteenth JDC, which is the
local court system here in Baton Rouge. Well, if you
have a judge that is removed or vacant for any reason,

(48:31):
then you move the date of the election up. That
helps the person with the most money win those races.

Speaker 14 (48:39):
What has helped black judges in a lot of cases.

Speaker 16 (48:41):
Here in Baton Rouge is if all of the judges
on the ballot at the same time, they are all
raising money at the same time, and even if you
don't have the most money, you can be competitive because
there's a bunch of other black judges on the ballot.
When you're the only black judge and you're struggling to
race fifty thousand dollars to be competitive in a race
where somebody else may have one hundred fifty dollars at
the drop of their hat. That means that that person

(49:04):
is more competitive. It means that they get the majority
on the local bench. And when they have the majority
on the local bench, they determine the makeup of the court,
what the court looks like, and how the court.

Speaker 14 (49:15):
Activates within your local community.

Speaker 16 (49:18):
That's the same makeup problem that other parishes that a
majority black would face in this situation. And that these
are methodical ways that conservatives use policy in order to
tweak the balances of power in their favor by making
sure that there as few as people possible showing up

(49:39):
in these local elections.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
All right, then, so Gary, early voting is happening right now?

Speaker 1 (49:48):
When does it end?

Speaker 16 (49:50):
This Saturday is the last day to early vote and
then election day is March twenty ninth.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
Well, Black folks, this is where we must show up
and show out.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
And this is real simple.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
You cannot complain about what Jeff Landry is doing and
his MAGA Attorney General and Republicans now have a super
majority if you don't vote. That's how there's a guaranteed
way for them to have power. And that is if
you actually do not show up and vote. So I
really hope folk now recognize what sitting at home does.

(50:23):
It does nothing but make our lives worse than miserable.
And again, I really hope that the black foles Louisiana
show up so man continue the great work. You know,
we'll certainly keep keep supporting it. The tour was awesome,
and and I just really hope that folk in Louisiana
realize that what Stacy Abrams and Warknock and others did

(50:46):
in Georgia can happen in Louisiana. But you can't talk
about maximizing black power if you're not organized, im mobilized.

Speaker 14 (50:56):
That's right. Thank you so much, Roland, and vote no
on all four.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
Appreciate it. Thanks a bunch, folks. Gotta go to a break.
We come back.

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We talked about elections. What do I keep saying? Elections matter?
In the last election, black voter turnout drop. A lot
of people stayed at home, that is African American, Latinos,
young voters as well. And so what really happened? How
did Vice President Kamala Harris lose Donald Trump? He's running
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(56:01):
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it was the mandate, but reality wasn't really a mandate. Well,
tans Woodberry, Hit Strategies has really been going through the numbers,
but also being doing focus groups getting a sense of
what happened. And so he joins us right now, Terrence,

(56:22):
glad to have you here. Listen, so let's walk through
the data. So give us the top line of what
what you have discovered, what happened in November, especially with
African Americans.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
Absolutely, thank you for having me.

Speaker 14 (56:37):
Man look.

Speaker 19 (56:38):
Hit Strategies has been pouring over exit poll data, voter
FIUL data, and sitting with block voters and focus groups
since the election to really understand what happened, was their underperformance,
where was their underperformance, and why why did it happen.
There's a couple of trends that we're starting to see here, Man.
Number one is that Democrats frankly underperformed with all their

(57:00):
base voters.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
Every group that you.

Speaker 19 (57:02):
Would consider a Democratic base voter, we got less votes
to it. That includes black people, Latinos, young voters voters
of color, men of color, urban voters, working class voters,
all the groups that you would consider. The one I
want to focus on because we've talked a lot about
the gender and the generation gap between Black voters that

(57:23):
black men and younger Black voters are showing up a
little bit different than some of their counterparts. Well, black
men compared to any other group of men of color
held the line only two percent drop off from Joe
Biden's seventy nine percent support amongst black men to Kamala
Harris's seventy seven percent. Again, that's the smallest drop off

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of any group of Black voters. What concerns me their
Roland is the trend over time. It is not that
we lost two percent of black men in this last election.
It's that we lose two to five percent in every election.
And that's how we go from the ninety two percent
of black men's support for Barack Obama and eighty two
percent of black men's support for Hillary Clinton to seventy

(58:07):
seven percent for Kamala Harris. I want to be clear
that Democrats don't just have a black men problem. Democrats
have a men problem, especially young men, especially men of color.

Speaker 3 (58:17):
And that's exactly what we've been digging into.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
So what's the reason behind that problem? What are they
saying and how do you fix it?

Speaker 19 (58:30):
Yeah, so there's a couple of things that we're seeing here,
you know, and these are these are trends we've been
we've been lifting for quite a while. The first is
that on some of these social issues, Roland, we are
discovering that Democrats really don't know how to talk to
black folks about issues of gender, sexuality, race, the role
of gender and society in fact, and when we.

Speaker 3 (58:54):
In fact, I want to I just want to show
you reaches some of.

Speaker 19 (58:57):
The poe numbers here amongst men, amongst black men, I'm sorry,
across amongst all black voters. Sixty six percent of black
voters agree that men should be head of household. My
mama agrees with that, my daddy agrees with that. Fifty
nine percent of black women agree with that. Seventy five
percent of black men agree with that. But why does

(59:19):
that matter? Because when we when in our research, as
a Kamala Harris poster, as one of the posters for
this campaign, when we discover that there are some groups
of voters that have concerns about voting for a woman,
well we don't. We shouldn't wag our finger at them
and shame them and tell them there's something wrong with them,

(59:41):
because that's not what that's not what we're.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
Seeing in this data.

Speaker 19 (59:44):
In fact, when they say that men should be head
of household, a lot, we know that a lot of
black folks get that from church. They got that from
the pulpit, they got there from their pastor they got
there from their Bible. And so we're asking them, we're
telling them that their Bible has been wrong and said,
what we need to do is an alternative I'm sorry,
is offer an alternative vision of society where gender roles

(01:00:06):
are evolving and where there is absolutely a role for
men in it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
And then not all masculinity is toxic.

Speaker 19 (01:00:12):
But what is that non toxic masculinity that we're embracing
on the left, What does that look like, how do
we demonstrate examples of it, and how do we make
black men feel like they're part of it?

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
So Gavin Newsom has this podcast where he recently broke
from Democrats when he came to the issue of transgender
Donald Trump. Magot was highly successful last year in running
I mean more than two hundred million dollars in ads
specifically dealing with transgender surgeries for inmates, but also, as

(01:00:46):
they frame it, men playing women's sports and I can
tell you individually, I heard from black men who were
very supportive of Vice President Klin Harris, very supportive of Democrats,
who were like, Yo, they're right, and what a lot
of people don't understand. And let's be clear, the Harris

(01:01:06):
campaign blew this off like it was no big deal
in January, February. In March, Maga, the Maga packs were
running these ads on black radio stations in Detroit, in
Atlanta and other places. They were essentially testing the ground.
They came back awesome. What then happens that clip of

(01:01:29):
Charlemagne and DJ Envy saying I don't want a transgender
prisoners getting surgeries with the second most effective ad out
of all the ads that Trump and Maga ran. So
what does your data say on that issue? Because a
lot of Democrats, let's just be clear, coming out of

(01:01:51):
Black Lives Matter, I heard people say, Yo, how is transgender?
How has this become such a down issue? Is that
also one of the cultural issues you're seeing show up
in your research.

Speaker 19 (01:02:05):
Yeah, that's exactly right, Roll, And I'm glad you brought
this up because there was some miss perceptions about that
trans Adam. I'm glad you described it the way you did,
because a lot of people remember that that very famous
tag line, She's for them today and I'm for you.
But what they what they often forget there is that
it wasn't just about trans folks. It was about using
tax dollars to pay for trans surgeries. And what we're

(01:02:28):
seeing in our data is that the zero sum politics
that Donald that really does represent Donald Trump that for
you to get that, for other people to get more,
you have to get less.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
Well, we're seeing that in our data.

Speaker 19 (01:02:41):
In fact, fifty nine percent of black voters believe that
the gains of the LGBTQ community come at the expense
of the Black community. Fifty nine percent, sixty four percent
of Black voters believe that the gains of the Latino
community come at the expense of the Black community.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
But I want to correct some misperception.

Speaker 19 (01:03:00):
When I see those numbers fifty nine percent of Black
folks and that they agree with that LGBTQQ gains come
at their expense, I don't. That's not an anti LGBTQ number,
That's not an anti trans, anti gay number. What I
see there is a pro black response that when I
look at the black community, I'm not I see that
we're not getting what we need, and folks that are

(01:03:22):
feeling that pain in their communities need a reason for it.
This is just you know, basic human psychology when you're
I said this on the podcast recently that when your
life sucks, you want to understand why it sucks. And
if the person asking for your vote can't tell you
why it sucks, then how can they unsuck it?

Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
And so Donald Trump came along and told.

Speaker 19 (01:03:43):
Uh and told groups of people that the reason that
their lives, that the reason that they're feeling this pain
in their communities is because another group is getting more,
is because immigrants are taking black jobs, is because trans
people are taking your tax dollars. Well, what democrats have
to do is one, we need to learn how to
talk about some of these hot button issues in ways

(01:04:04):
that resonate with black folks, but we also need to
give people a reason for their pain. Why don't you
have what you need? Why does your kids school not
have what it needs? Why does your community not have
the resources that it needs? And if it's not going
to be because of trans people, and it's not going
to be because of immigrants, and it's not going to

(01:04:25):
be because of DEI, then what reason are democrats going
to give? And I think our data gives us some
daylight on where we need to go here, because the
next question that I want to the next data point
I want to point out here is that, and this
is amongst all voters, not just black voters, seventy three
percent of black people, I'm sorry, seventy three percent of

(01:04:48):
registered voters believe that greedy corporations and billionaires have rigged
the system to keep themselves rich seventy three percent. And so,
while while the while the MAGA and Trump are telling
communities of color and immigrant communities and LGBTQ communities that
all of their problems are because of other people, at

(01:05:10):
the same time that he's given the keys of the
kingdom to Elon Musk, the richest men in the world,
at the same time that Donald Trump's cabinet is the
wealthiest cabinet in the history of America, worth over over
seven hundred billion dollars inside of Donald Trump's cabinet if
you include Elon's four hundred billion, which has dropped rapidly

(01:05:32):
due to some of the protests of the communities we're
talking about. But if we're not able to offer the
alternative that it is not because of the person that
has less than you that you have less. It's because
of the people that are hoarding all the resources at
the top, that are pillaging our government, and that are
cutting services for the least amongst us in order to

(01:05:53):
make themselves rich. I could tell from the data Roland
that not only black folks, but Americans.

Speaker 3 (01:05:59):
Will be leave that and we can begin.

Speaker 19 (01:06:01):
To mobilize the multi racial coalition that is being splintered
by these zero sum politics.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
So your biggest three takeaways.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
You said that in number three, voters trusted Trump on
the issue they cared about the most, the.

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
Economy and immigration.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
I bet there a sure as hell are Regrettinggrett that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
But I'm going to actually let me break that down.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
First of all, ten of the last eleven recessions Republicans Republicans.
Republicans have messaged their way into getting people to believe
they're great for the economy. No, they're great for major
corporations and tax breaks. They're not great for the economy.
And the reality is Biden has is better. They were
just horrible at the great things that they actually did.

(01:06:45):
Even on immigration, Biden Biden was deported even right now.
Biden was deporting more people every week than Trump is.
But here's the difference. Biden didn't have his Department of
Homeland Security secretary out there playing dress up, doing photo ops,
photo shoots in gear. I mean she wearing every every

(01:07:08):
day an piece of piece of swag they got in
Homeland Security. What Donald Trump has done, and this is
also tied to messaging. He has turned immigration deportations into
a television show. The Biden Democrats, Biden Harris, they did
it quietly, and so this is one of those things.
It shows you that wait a minute, Biden Harris, you

(01:07:29):
were deporting more people than Trump actually is hell, Trump
fired fired off forgot which department because the guy they
weren't importing fast enough.

Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
They were still behind.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
But the difference is they are showing it, they are
messaging what they're doing, whereas Biden Harris did not just
talk about that.

Speaker 19 (01:07:51):
Your assessment of that, that's exactly right, Roland. You know,
Democrats really have to get into the game of political theater.
You know, I've argue for a long time that our
politics are post policy. Americans agree with us on policy,
Black folks agree with us on policy, young people, people
of color. Men of color agree with us on policy,

(01:08:13):
from gun control to immigration to.

Speaker 3 (01:08:17):
I'm sorry not immigration, that's.

Speaker 14 (01:08:18):
The only one.

Speaker 19 (01:08:19):
Immigration economy are the only ones that they don't agree
with us. But on all of these issues, healthcare, student loans,
gun control, climate, they agree with Democrats overwhelmingly on policy.
We are losing them on the storytelling, and a part
of that is because we're not lifting up the stories

(01:08:41):
of the folks even at this moment, At this very moment,
Donald Trump's approval rating today is higher than it was
in his first term, higher amongst all voters, but even
twice is high amongst black voters. And Donald Trump's first term,
he had a fifteen percent approval rating black folks at
this time in his first term, and now Donald Trump

(01:09:04):
is a thirty two percent approval rating amongst black folks.
And that's because we're not connecting the dots on how
the actions that he's taking are hurting black communities are
hurting black people. And a lot of that does come
with the showmanship. I want to read you a set
here that I believe represents where black folks would like
to see the Democratic Party going. When we ask this question,

(01:09:26):
which of the following statements is closest to your opinion.

Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
Seventy eight percent.

Speaker 19 (01:09:31):
Of I'm sorry, twenty two percent of black folks believe
that Democrats should keep their heads down and allow Donald
Trump to fail and prove that he is incapable of governing.
Twenty two percent believe that. Seventy eight percent of black
folks the overwhelming majority, almost eighty percent.

Speaker 3 (01:09:48):
That's like everybody that as almost everybody that you.

Speaker 19 (01:09:52):
Know, eighty percent believe that Democrats need to fight back
as as often and as visibly as possible.

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
The visibly part.

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
So basically black people, but basically black people are saying,
James Carville, you know what the hell you talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
Yeah, that played. That shit is for the birds.

Speaker 19 (01:10:10):
Black people want to see less James Carville and more
represented Al Green and the courage that he show when
he stood face to face with Donald Trump and told
him that they didn't have a mandate.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
You're number two.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
You said, Harris lost, but Dems did not get wiped out.

Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
Can you tell stephen A that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
I mean, all these people are running around all my god,
Dems got destroyed, they got crushed, and I'm like, no,
they didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
They literally almost won the House and This is the.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
Problem when people act like the entire house is burning,
it's actually not.

Speaker 1 (01:10:41):
It wasn't a mandate. The reality. I mean, we're talking.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
About the shifts that she could have actually won. But
when you had all these factors that played by the
end of the debate, him dropping out in July, I
mean hit all frankly Biden insiders trashing Harris in twenty
twenty he won twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three, twenty
twenty four, causing her numbers to.

Speaker 1 (01:11:05):
Go down as well. Rally is she almost pulled it out.

Speaker 3 (01:11:09):
That's right, That's exactly right.

Speaker 14 (01:11:11):
Roland.

Speaker 19 (01:11:11):
Look, Kamala Harris was able to close a double digit deficit.
Joe Biden was down double digits in battleground states. He
was down more than twenty points amongst young people, almost
twenty points amongst black people. Kamala Harris joining the ticket
closed that gap and under in just over one hundred days.
She was able to close that gap, and in fact,

(01:11:33):
she won seventy three million people seventy three million votes.
That's the second most votes ever by a presidential candidate,
second only to the person that beat her in the
same election. That means that Kamala Harris got more votes
than Joe Biden when he won. She got more votes
in Georgia, in North Carolina, in Michigan then Joe Biden

(01:11:54):
got when he won. And so this idea that there's
a mandate, if anything, I would argue that there's a
that the country is split and there's a mandate for
the other half, for the other half of the country
that didn't win, that there's a mandate for us to
start representing the opposition and not the minority that folks
that have regardless of what party you're a part of

(01:12:16):
or who you voted for, if you see what's happening
and disagree, you are in fact a part of the opposition.
That were seventy three million people that saw this the
MAGA shit that he was presenting and said no. And
that is a growing coalition, including ten percent of Republicans
who voted for him and disapprove of the job that
he's doing. And so there's an opportunity here for Democrats

(01:12:37):
to really mobilize this growing opposition of folks that would
like to see more Democrats fight back as much and
as visibly as possible and not roll over and played dead.

Speaker 3 (01:12:48):
The way, James Cargill is encouraging him.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
To your number one, and I'm we're going to talk
about this before I go to my panels for questions.
Something that we've said. I consistently said during the campaign.
You got some of these negroes out here real money.
You got three hundred fifty thousand dollars from the Kamala
Harris campaign for ads, but they want to ignore the

(01:13:11):
other five hundred and ninety nine million, seven hundred thousand
that was spent on ads that largely white media got.
You said, under investment caused significant erosion to Democratic base,
could signal a realignment if not corrected.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
The bottom liners is here.

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
The people who are more likely going to vote for
you is your base. You must shore up your base.
I'm sorry, I was there the day before the election.
That damn Kamala Harris rally in Philadelphia was fucking obscene.
It was obscene, and I mean I was standing there,
We're covering it, and I'm like, I wonder how much

(01:13:52):
all of this costs and if they put this much
money into the ground game in Philadelphia alone. When we
were in Houston, raised in Houston. I love my city,
but the rally before the election in Houston was dumb.
It was dumb, and I'm sitting there going hmm, I
wonder how much has it been put. The fact of

(01:14:12):
the matter is that the Democrats and this is this
is this is white democratic strategists, white democratic media strategists,
white people.

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
Who run campaigns. And I'm gonna say this.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
You don't have to say it, you don't have to
nod your head, you don't do any of this, but
I'm gonna go ahead and say it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:34):
The reality is this here jen O, Mallley.

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
Dylan, initially Anita Dunn who got booted by Karmal but
she was with Joe's campaign, later Stephanie Cutter, David Pluff.
They were not They were not listening to the black
people on the campaign.

Speaker 1 (01:14:52):
They were not listening to the.

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
Black staffers, the black posters, the black strategists who were
trying to tell them.

Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
I talked to folks in Georgia who.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
Said, if they had a news conference in front of
a John Lewis Murrol in Atlanta and headquarters struck everything
in the copy that mentioned John Lewis activism in protests, well,
why the hell are you even doing that?

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
And so they spent money up.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
They would they wouldn't They were you know, I don't
they were, Yes, this is appropriate word. They would regardly
with the money for black radio, black newspaper because their
whole deal was, oh, we got them, No, you didn't
have them.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
They made people like me jump through hoops to even
get interviews.

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
And this is why they keep losing.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
They are running a nineteen eighty four black strategy. In
twenty twenty five, it's you cannot show up at the
NAACP Freedom Fund dinner. You cannot just drop in to
some black churches in October. And when you have to
be spending money in the year, if it's a November election,

(01:16:03):
you got to be spending twelve months out and you
got to be educating and lightning informing.

Speaker 1 (01:16:09):
That's what you got to do.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
And that's literally what you're saying in number one.

Speaker 19 (01:16:13):
I mean, look, roll, and I'm going as far as saying,
we got to start spending right now. This is a
part of the narrative that we are combating. And this
is why what you're doing is so important, is that
the right doesn't stop campaigning.

Speaker 3 (01:16:23):
Donald Trump is running. They are running.

Speaker 19 (01:16:25):
Domald Trump ads on this program today. Right now, they
are running Donald Trump ads today. I just saw what
was it, Texas Steel or something, and so look, they
are never going They will continue communicating with our audience.
The only reason Republicans have seen the increase that they

(01:16:45):
have seen amongst black youth and amongst black men, the
only reason it's not because they change their policies.

Speaker 3 (01:16:52):
It's not because they changed their message.

Speaker 19 (01:16:54):
They're not saying something different than black folks than they've
been saying. The only reason they are doubled the support
amongst young black voters and amongst black men is because
they are spending money trying and they and they didn't
used to. And that is not unique to Donald Trump.
That is up and down the ballot.

Speaker 3 (01:17:12):
We see kenn Is like Tom.

Speaker 19 (01:17:14):
Tillis and Purdue and and uh the Republicans in Pennsylvania.

Speaker 3 (01:17:19):
I just forgot his name, but they've.

Speaker 19 (01:17:22):
All increased their support amongst young black amongst young black voters,
and amongst black men. And so look, when you have
a group of voters who have been it's like a
voter told me in a focus group, my hood ain't
getting no better.

Speaker 3 (01:17:34):
A black, young black.

Speaker 19 (01:17:35):
Man told me in Pennsylvania, my hood ain't getting no
better under Obama, it ain't getting no worse under Trump.
So what did Kamala and Biden got to do with me?
For voters like that, what I what we call it
hit rightfully cynical voters, those closest to the pain that
don't often fill our interventions. Those voters actually don't like
either party. They don't like Trump or Biden, they don't

(01:17:57):
like Democrats or Republicans. And so what they are going
with is the candidate that is offering to blow all
of this shit up. This is why Roland, we have
seen this, this voter that confuses the hell out of Washington,
and that's the.

Speaker 3 (01:18:10):
Bernie Trump voter.

Speaker 19 (01:18:12):
Voters that are voting for Bernie Sanders and are now
voting for Donald Trump.

Speaker 3 (01:18:15):
Well, that's because they're voting for disruption.

Speaker 19 (01:18:17):
They want to break a system that has felled them,
and Democrats lush time defending it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
Questions from Pala Recie your first.

Speaker 10 (01:18:27):
Terrence, It's always good to be with you so much.

Speaker 9 (01:18:30):
You said so much of what you said I've been
warning people about. But help me reconcile this, because you
know your data talks about the issues that are most
important to black people, and the discussion you in Roland
had was around cultural issues, things that Democrats themselves did

(01:18:51):
not focus on. I didn't see Kamla Harris run pro
trans ads, pro LGBTQ ads. I saw her running ads
around her economic policy, around her being tough on immigration
and things like that. And so, how much of it
over the arc of your research during the campaign and after,
are perceptions driven by the Republicans really owning the narrative

(01:19:15):
on what Democrats are talking about as opposed to Democrats
owning the narrative on what their policies are and what
their emphasis is on.

Speaker 3 (01:19:23):
That's exactly right.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
But before you answer that, but before you answer that,
I'm gonna throw in one more thing. She wasn't running
those ads. But what the campaign failed to do they
actually failed to respond. The campaign literally said they literally said.
They literally said, Quinton Folks the number two that they

(01:19:48):
did not they believe that the transgender commercials were having
no impact. And we were like, what in the hell
are y'all talking about? Oh my guys, they were running
eight to twelve in every football game. I'm telling you
right now, General Mally Dylon, Stephanie Cutter, David Pluff, and

(01:20:11):
Quentin Folks. I don't know what planetary system that they
were campaigning in, but it was totally different than the
one that we were living in.

Speaker 9 (01:20:21):
Dan's go ahead political malpractice for sure.

Speaker 19 (01:20:25):
Listen, look, when it comes to these culture issues, you're
absolutely right Raci that Democrats have not been engaging, have
not waged their political campaigns on these cultural issues. Republicans
are certainly leading these conversations around wokeism, around DEI, around
but the problem is that we are allowing Republicans to

(01:20:47):
shape the issue context that the election is happening in.

Speaker 3 (01:20:51):
I could have told you two.

Speaker 19 (01:20:52):
Years ago that the number one issue in every election
is economy. Two years ago, I could have told you
if the number two issue was was not abortion, then
we would probably lose. If the number two issue was
immigration or crime instead of abortion or guns, then we're
probably going to lose. And so we allowed them to

(01:21:12):
shape the issue context.

Speaker 20 (01:21:14):
And they have done that by now launching a Well,
we are in a culture war, but it's a war
that Republicans have started and that Democrats have to respond
to because when we don't.

Speaker 19 (01:21:25):
Here's how this works, Democrats don't respond or defend critical
race theory Democrats don't respond or defend the Supreme Court
overturning affirmative action. Democrats don't respond or defend to removing
black history from books. In fact, our response is, we
don't believe in CRT. We're not we ain't woke. We

(01:21:46):
our response is to deny all of these things. And
so when they now come in and start gutting all
of this shit, and Democrats now look to black voters
or look to voters of color to mobilize a resistant
and an opposition, well we haven't been We haven't given
voters a reason to defend affirmative action c r T.

(01:22:07):
In fact, forty percent of Block folks believe that racism't exists,
but doesn't prevent them from achieving from a from from
from a chick, from pursuing opportunity. And so if we're
not presenting the pain or the alternatives, then then we
are going to continue to allow Republicans to shape the
narrative and to launch a culture war that we have

(01:22:28):
not figured out how to show up to.

Speaker 11 (01:22:34):
Noah Terence, thank you so much for this data. This,
this this is wonderful. I love this conversation. I joined
a campaign, I was a national security and foreign policy messenger.
And while foreign policy typically doesn't win elections, foreign policy
did factor factor.

Speaker 4 (01:22:52):
In to the emotionality of the election.

Speaker 11 (01:22:56):
Right and as one of the people who were invited
into the rooms but who wasn't listened to in terms
of messaging, you know, a lot of that fell on
deaf ears. And then we saw the results, you know,
we saw how Michigan responded, and so my question, my
question is, as we're seeing all of these different things happen,

(01:23:18):
as we're seeing the way that Trump is blustering, you know,
that that bullish kind of posture towards Mexico, towards Canada,
towards Panama, towards Greenland. While the traditional thinking is and
some of the data would support that foreign policy does
not win elections, it does impact elections. How can Democrats

(01:23:40):
be out there right now talking about this. I think
that they're making a mistake by not talking about colonial imperialism,
you know, this kind of huge reversal, you know, back
to this time that no one wants. You know, I
think it's a mistake that they're not leaning into this,

(01:24:00):
this kind of rhetoric, because it's more than rhetoric, it's true.
So in your professional opinion, How does that shift begin
to happen in terms of messaging. I'm talking to some
folks on the hill because they're like, what do we do?
But how do you get them to listen?

Speaker 19 (01:24:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (01:24:20):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:24:20):
Foreign policy is interesting because you're right.

Speaker 19 (01:24:23):
For black voters and for most voters of color, it
doesn't typically register as a top issue that impacts who
they are voting for.

Speaker 3 (01:24:32):
Even in this election, we tested.

Speaker 19 (01:24:34):
The war in Gaza and the war in Ukraine as
the saliency of these issues and how much it was
impacting people. I don't have the exact number, but I
could tell you less than ten percent of black folks
say that that was an important, an important factor and
who they were and who they considered voting for. But
this is the important part. It wasn't that salient, but

(01:24:57):
it was quite resident for the folks that it was.
For the less than ten percent that said they were
considering it, it was their top issue, right. And so
for those young folks and those voters of color and
those folks in Michigan, while they didn't represent a large
part of the constituency, it was the most important thing
to them, and many of them felt like they didn't

(01:25:20):
get the response that they needed from the Democratic Party.
I do think that there's an opportunity here as he
continues to strip and rip foreign aid from around the world.
I remember shithole countries coming up in a lot of
focus groups in his last administration. When he said that

(01:25:40):
about about countries in Africa, focus groups were repeating that
back to me.

Speaker 3 (01:25:45):
Well, unfortunately, I haven't heard.

Speaker 19 (01:25:47):
Anybody bringing up the fact that Elon Musk is in
South Africa trying to return back to apartheid, and that
Donald Trump is offering white Afrikaners to be refugee in America.
That we are withholding funding from countries, from countries across Africa,
and frankly that.

Speaker 3 (01:26:07):
Allow that funding.

Speaker 19 (01:26:08):
While it does benefit those countries and they need that aid,
it is also to keep us safe. Look as measos
and aids and pandemic, these things don't have country borders.

Speaker 3 (01:26:18):
This is why we fight these.

Speaker 19 (01:26:20):
Pandemics around the world, because it's the only way to
keep them out of America. It's to fight them there
before they get here, and so we have not Democrats
have a lot to respond to right now. This is
a part of the muscle velocity of the Republican strategy,
of the MAGA strategy. But a part of what you know,

(01:26:40):
we have to figure out how to respond to all
of these things. We can't allow any of these attacks
that hurt our communities or frankly, hurt our diaspora. Because again,
while while it may be less than ten percent that
are prioritizing the diaspora, the folks that do prioritize it
as their.

Speaker 3 (01:26:58):
Number one issue, and so we got to find a way.

Speaker 19 (01:27:00):
To respond to it and to mobilize the folks that
do care to actually join this opposition.

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
Thank you, Political says your question, Hey, Terrence, how are you.

Speaker 8 (01:27:14):
I'm here in North Carolina.

Speaker 12 (01:27:15):
What I do know is that USAID affects farmers here
in this state. What I do know is that USAID
effect education on a college level when it comes to grants.
And what I do know is that in the Triangle
people are losing their jobs right now because of us AID.
What I also know is that Tom Tillis is going

(01:27:35):
to be funded like an ass when it comes to
his re election in twenty twenty six by Elon Mutz.
And what's also ticking me off is veterans right now.

Speaker 8 (01:27:46):
Veterans are so pissed with Tom Tillis.

Speaker 12 (01:27:48):
I'm talking about veterans that voted for his ass. No
one yet has came out and said that they are going.

Speaker 8 (01:27:55):
To run against Tom Tillis. No one yet has done that.

Speaker 12 (01:28:00):
Everyone, i think is waiting to see what our former
governor of Royal Cooper's gonna do. We do not have
my congresswoman del Barross. Her little prissy ass is not
nowhere near to be found. She's on she's on TikTok
or X. She's nowhere near to be found. And right now,
even on a local level, our local politicians, right our
state politicians, they are nowhere to be found.

Speaker 8 (01:28:22):
They are not showing up at these townhome meetings, town
hall meetings.

Speaker 12 (01:28:26):
They are not going in these rural areas that's gonna
be affected the most by cuts.

Speaker 8 (01:28:31):
Or getting rid of the Department of Education.

Speaker 3 (01:28:33):
So I'm with you on that.

Speaker 12 (01:28:34):
I'm looking for I'm looking for shit that I know
what I see in USAID. Okay, let me grab what's
going to affect my people, right, That's what I'm gonna
look at when it comes to USAID the Department of Education.
Let me say, well, shit, wait a minute, now we're
talking about title one.

Speaker 8 (01:28:49):
We know what's gonna affect low edge talking head start,
we know this shit, right, How can we get them.

Speaker 12 (01:28:56):
Out to understand I'm not talk about the voters, right,
We're trying to roll up the voters, right, We're trying.

Speaker 8 (01:29:00):
To get through going. How do we get these politicians
just the country girl here from North Carolina. Don't nobody
listen to me? Right? So what do we do, Terrence?

Speaker 3 (01:29:09):
What can I do?

Speaker 1 (01:29:11):
Well?

Speaker 3 (01:29:11):
Listen?

Speaker 19 (01:29:12):
I believe that the South, the South got next hit strategies,
is advancing a new South, a blue South project. I
believe that that blue wall in the in the in
the Midwest, we've seen how shaky it is, how.

Speaker 3 (01:29:26):
A non durable that blue wall in the Midwest is.

Speaker 19 (01:29:28):
But I do believe there's an opportunity to build a
much more durable black ass wall across the South. You
just had Gary Chambers on. You just had Gary Chambers
on here, who has been raving the flag on this.
Places like Louisiana, Mississippi. Uh, the South are not red states.
They're just a press states north arounda South Carolina. It

(01:29:51):
is no coincidence that in the South that the South
is where the black estates in America are and it's
in the same exact states. You can almost track it,
track the correlation correlation directly. The blacker the state is,
the lower the black turnout is No, it's almost correlation.

Speaker 2 (01:30:10):
That that that is that that is that is absolutely crazy.
And here's and here's the deal and and here and
here here's the deal.

Speaker 1 (01:30:16):
Terms that we have to understand.

Speaker 2 (01:30:17):
And when you talk about that Blue Wall twenty thirty,
the numbers is gonna be changing. California, New York State, Wisconsin.
Blue blue states are gonna be losing congressional seats. They're
gonna be shifting those to red states, which means Democrats
are going to have to have a consistent strategy to

(01:30:38):
win Georgia and or North Carolina. And they're gonna have
to make Florida. They gotta figure out what to do.
Florida has to come back purple again. The numbers are shifting,
it's going to it's gonna make it harder because to
get to two seventy if the Blues, if blue states
lose anywhere from six to ten electoral College votes.

Speaker 3 (01:31:03):
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 19 (01:31:04):
But the good news is while the geographic patterns don't
favorite Democrats the demographic patterns do What do I mean
by that the places that this growth is happening might
not benefit us, but the people that are causing this
growth should be benefiting us. This growth is being caused
by people of color and by young people. I don't

(01:31:24):
know about Florida. I still got PTSD from May Andrew
Gillum days in Florida. But I do know mississip I
do no places like Mississippi. Mississippi the blackest state and
the black is state in all of.

Speaker 3 (01:31:37):
America where Democrats just lost.

Speaker 19 (01:31:40):
In twenty twenty three in an off year with a
black candidate running for governor. We lost by two points
in Mississippi. We lost by less than we lost in Michigan.
And so there's an opportunity to build this black wall
across the South. But to Roland's point, those are not
just strategic decisions, those are economic decisions, because to build

(01:32:00):
a blackcast wall in the South means you're gonna have
to empower a bunch of black organizations and black media
and black operatives in order to go get those black
voters that feel like politics don't got nothing to do
with them.

Speaker 3 (01:32:11):
The same way Stacy Abrams did in Georgia.

Speaker 2 (01:32:15):
Yep, indeed, Terns Woodberry, we appreciate it, my brother, Thank you, Terrence,
we appreciate it. Thanks a lot, Thank you guys, Thank
you all right, thanks a bunch folks. Gotta go to break.
We come back.

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Black Ghost of Empire, The Death of Slavery and the
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The real problem is that the problems that slavery and
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Speaker 2 (01:36:20):
November the election was the remember fifth, but guess what,
there's one race it still is not over because you're
a Republican who just can't handle the fact that he
actually lost to a woman. Yeah, Democratic hit come in
Allison Riggs. She narrowly won her Supreme Court race by
seven hundred and thirty four votes. Her Republican opponent, Court

(01:36:41):
of Appeals Judge Jefferson Griffin has constantly challenged more than
sixty five thousand ballots cast in the race, arguing if
the state Board of Rict Elections improperly allowed these voters
to participate ye'ah. The Court of Appeals will now hear
the case on Friday, and has drawn national criticism from
those who argue he could set a president for challenging

(01:37:02):
election results across the country.

Speaker 1 (01:37:04):
Griffith did not act alone.

Speaker 2 (01:37:06):
A North Carolina Republican Party has supported his efforts and
has joined him as a plaintiff in the case. Meaning
of Griffin's arguments for disqualifying voters closely resembles the North
Carolina GOP's pre election lawsuit that aimed purge voters from
the state's roles.

Speaker 1 (01:37:20):
Now here's the deal.

Speaker 2 (01:37:21):
The same Board of Elections already said, sorry, dude, there's
nothing here, and so he is desperate for a court
to somehow agree with him. Politicals sist. I'm gonna start
with you. Here's the deal. If Allison Riggs is named
the winner, Democrats of a five to two, they're down
that they have two seats of the Supreme Court. Republicans

(01:37:42):
have five next week next year. Justice Anita Earle is
the only African American on the court.

Speaker 1 (01:37:48):
She is up. But here's the piece.

Speaker 2 (01:37:50):
Twenty twenty eight, three of those Republican seats are on
the ballot in twenty twenty eight. Democrats could flip that race,
could flip the Supreme Court by winning those three seats.
That's why Republicans are desperately trying to go from a
five to two majority to a six to one because
they do not want Democrats to have any shot at

(01:38:13):
regaining control of the North Carolina Supreme Court. And I'm
gonna throw in there, and the reason being because Republicans
had a ten to three majority on the congressional seats.

Speaker 1 (01:38:25):
Because of political jerry mandry.

Speaker 2 (01:38:27):
When the Democrats took control, they changed that and it
was seven to seven. Those are the four seats you
go back to seven seven in North Carolina, seven Democrats,
seven Republicans. That means in Congress, Democrats would control the
House by one seat. Political says, you keep hitting that

(01:38:52):
mute button. I don't know why you keep hitting a
mute button.

Speaker 1 (01:38:55):
Baby, we can't hear you.

Speaker 12 (01:38:57):
You can hear me now, I'm off so over five
five hundred million.

Speaker 1 (01:39:01):
People not now now we can hear you.

Speaker 2 (01:39:04):
You you by words you buy versus no. Only hitting
that mute button.

Speaker 4 (01:39:08):
Can be a lot nice of the night, though, Can
I finish?

Speaker 8 (01:39:14):
Can I get gone?

Speaker 3 (01:39:14):
Please?

Speaker 8 (01:39:15):
Because I'm trying to crack.

Speaker 1 (01:39:16):
I'm trying.

Speaker 2 (01:39:17):
No, no, no, no, no only you no only you
knew I was gonna mention you, Nola, you know I
was gonna mintion You say, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:39:24):
Go lea know what alone?

Speaker 12 (01:39:26):
So over five hundred I mean five million votes here
the counts, she won twice by seven hundred.

Speaker 8 (01:39:34):
And thirty four points, I mean votes.

Speaker 12 (01:39:37):
He is trying to say that, well, it shouldn't be
because of voter ID. People didn't use their voter IDs.
We're here in North Carolina. There's a form that you
have to fill out if you don't have your license
or i D. And after you fill that form, of course,
you have to swear with a board of Education. They
look over those forms and make sure that they are legit.

Speaker 8 (01:39:58):
And that is what they did.

Speaker 12 (01:40:00):
So he's challenging over sixty five thousand votes only only
and heavy democratic areas.

Speaker 8 (01:40:09):
Okay, heavy democratic.

Speaker 12 (01:40:11):
Areas oversees military ballots. He's also challenging, I mean, one
vote that was challenged was the young lady from the
black Hawk incident, helic.

Speaker 8 (01:40:25):
The West dead, challenging her vote.

Speaker 12 (01:40:28):
He's also challenging he's also challenging Alison Riggs's parents' vote.
So this, if this man wins, then North Carolina will
not be the only.

Speaker 8 (01:40:43):
State to do something like this. But we also need
to keep in mind that he's.

Speaker 12 (01:40:49):
Six on the appellate courts right and this is where
it's at right now. So you have fifteen seats for
the Pelic Court and they go off from threes. Only
three Democrats sit on that. Now, there are two people
who gave to his election or to fight against Alison Riggs.

(01:41:10):
They were they're not the ones who are going to
be listening.

Speaker 8 (01:41:14):
To the case. So that's good, that's fine.

Speaker 12 (01:41:17):
But if it makes it either way, it's going to
make it to the Supreme Court.

Speaker 8 (01:41:22):
And if it gets to the Supreme Court, the Republicans
that are.

Speaker 12 (01:41:25):
In control are already talking about or they already are
saying that they're basically it's going to.

Speaker 8 (01:41:32):
Give it to him. So this is extremely serious.

Speaker 12 (01:41:36):
But this is also another example of how these candidates,
with all due respect to Alison Riggs, but these are
the facts, y'all need to come in neighborhoods. You need
to come in black communities and show your damn face
because maybe, just maybe, if she would have done that,
she wouldn't be just sitting at seven hundred and thirty

(01:41:57):
four votes.

Speaker 2 (01:42:02):
Reci I just want people just to understand that this
is a perfect example every vote matters. Sherry Beasley when
she was a Chief Justice of the North Carolina Supreme Court,
Democrats had a had a they had a six to
one majority. She lost, so the white Republican who got

(01:42:25):
mad that she was appointed chief justice, ran against her.
She lost about four hundred and one votes. Republican won
his seat. They went from a they went from a
they could have had a six to one majority, it
went to four to three. Then the next election it
flipped and then they and then they took even further control.

Speaker 1 (01:42:43):
But she lost about four hundred and one votes.

Speaker 2 (01:42:45):
I hope people understand, Alison Riggs seven hundred thirty four,
this is what we mean by every vote matters.

Speaker 1 (01:42:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:42:53):
Yes, And can I say something we said before you
if you don't mind, could.

Speaker 12 (01:42:56):
I say she lost Sharon b Let me explain something
to y'all about share Easley, beautiful system, beautiful system. But
she focused on rural areas. She did not come in
the hood. And do you know that people.

Speaker 8 (01:43:10):
Had to pay for her signs. Who the hell living
in the hood gonna pay for your signs and they
don't even know who the hell you are.

Speaker 12 (01:43:17):
So once again, every vote counts, and to be honest,
those two elections she could have won the first time,
she could have won the first time. Just how I'm
sorry about that.

Speaker 1 (01:43:30):
Oh no, I listened to you.

Speaker 10 (01:43:31):
First off. I don't have a problem with you, but
with you jumping in.

Speaker 9 (01:43:35):
But to political systems point, I definitely feel like it
does go to show that and to Terrence Woodbury's point,
we just had a whole segment on this. The Democratic
Party two often takes the base for for granted and
they feel like that's the choir.

Speaker 10 (01:43:51):
I'm just pretty sure the choir.

Speaker 9 (01:43:52):
I'm wasting my time going and and engaging and having
conversations with those people because they are already vote that
I feel like I can bank not understanding that when
you don't engage, then your voters, who are being targeted
by Republicans by the opposition to be more disillusioned and
disengaged with the Democratic Party stay home. So there's that part.

(01:44:15):
But what this is evidence of is that Republicans defend
their turf at all costs, and they will lie, cheat
and steal. They never concede. They will never just say, well,
dims the rules, and so I guess I gotta, you know,
take my lunch.

Speaker 10 (01:44:33):
And go home now. Absolutely not.

Speaker 9 (01:44:35):
They are willing to do anything by all means to
hold onto power and to still elections. And I think
what part of this is is that even if they
in this case, he fails to get this seat, which
he lost. I think what this probably tries to do
is it tries to kind of erode Democrats' defense of

(01:44:55):
not having voter ID.

Speaker 10 (01:44:57):
It makes Democrats then try to I can see.

Speaker 9 (01:45:00):
I'm not saying this, I'm predicting, but you know, Democrats
are often so willing to concede ground on Republicans and
buy into their pretext for why votes don't count by saying,
all right, fine, so that we avoid this kind of
battle next time over voter ID requirements. Fine, have your
voter ID, and then that's something that we're taking off

(01:45:20):
the table. But you cannot capitulate to Republicans because there
will always be some other loophole. There will always be
some other law that they're willing to bend break, and
there'll always be a quest for power that they will
not concede to Democrats. There's no reason why Alison Ricks
should not walk her ass to the Gore House, sitting
there with her road and be like, bitch, I'm here, okay,

(01:45:42):
because I tell you, that's what a Republicans want. But
at the end of the day, Democrats are gonna believe
in institutions, believe in the process, and that's why we're
in the mess that we're in now because Republicans don't
give a damn of our process, institutions or norms or laws.

Speaker 2 (01:46:01):
Noah, I talk about these Supreme Court races, they're important.
I mean, look, you've got a Supreme Court race in
Wisconsin taking place on April first, Folks vote for Sarah Crawford.
You've got Elon Musk pouring almost ten million dollars into
that race because if the Democrat wins, if Crawford wins

(01:46:24):
that open seat, Democrats will have a five to two
majority of the Supreme Court. So if people are complaining
about the US Supreme Court, y'all state Supreme courts are
also just as important.

Speaker 11 (01:46:34):
Noah, Yes, oh, absolutely, everything happens locally, you know. And
one of the things that I think a great deal
about is, as we're talking about North Carolina, I remember
canvassing in North Carolina. And inasmuch as I absolutely believe
that Dems rely on the rely on the idea that

(01:46:58):
the base is going to be with this now no
matter what, I think that they've been through this enough
times to know that that's not necessarily the case. And
so I'm starting to wonder, like, what is some of
this hesitation about really engaging with black voters. And I
recall canvassing in North Carolina, and I was the only
black canvasser and they gave me, you know a lot

(01:47:21):
of kind of places to go that you know, we
would call the hood, you know, like literally there were
there were like bullet holes like in people's houses and cars,
like I'm not kidding.

Speaker 4 (01:47:30):
And so I'm starting.

Speaker 11 (01:47:32):
To wonder, like, Okay, is it some sort of hybrid
sort of situation where I'm starting to wonder if the
party is actually scared to engage with its own base.
And I'm just starting to think that more and more
because these these elections are so close and they're so tight,
and here.

Speaker 4 (01:47:50):
You just have people sitting right there.

Speaker 11 (01:47:52):
They're sitting right there, but they don't they don't know,
they don't know what's going on.

Speaker 4 (01:47:57):
You're not engaging with them. Why is that?

Speaker 11 (01:48:00):
I think, you know, in terms of the party, and
I'll get to Wisconsin and Elon Musk and paying for
different races, but that is something that we really have
to have a really, really, really tough conversation about with
this party. It's one thing to just assume that the
base shows up for you, but in these kind of

(01:48:21):
type races like this, where things like this keep happening,
it has to be more than that. And so I'm
going to pivot towards Elon Musk and buying races. First
of all, I like what Tim Wallas has been doing.
I like that he's been out there. I like how
he's been talking to people and engaging with people, and
he's just like regular Shrekla talking to people, and I
think that's effective. I think that it's going to take

(01:48:43):
more of that relational kind of dialogue to really get
people to understand what's at stake. And the one good
thing about Elon trying to buy this race is how
negative the negative perceptions and how negative his his brand
is right now, I think that will help and people

(01:49:05):
need to continue to lean into that. And you know,
we've talked about this until the Kyles came home, that
Democrats really need to dig in. I know that they're
still trying to find their way, they're still trying to
find their messaging. But right now, when Elon's brand is
so toxic, that's when you lean in. That's when you

(01:49:25):
go for the kill, and that's when you remind people
who he is and what he's trying to do. The
rest of the world understands quite clearly because he's first
sign of non grata in a lot of these places.

Speaker 4 (01:49:35):
We need to get on board with that too.

Speaker 2 (01:49:39):
Yeah all, let's folks to check this out.

Speaker 1 (01:49:44):
So uh, okay, go ahead.

Speaker 9 (01:49:48):
I just want to say we cannot, to Nola's point,
we cannot bitch and mo own about how weak and
punk ass the Democrats are when we have multiple races
the Wisconsin Supreme Court state race, there are two special
election races. Now granted those are very red districts, but
we cannot continue to bitch and moan about Democrats being

(01:50:08):
weak when we do not give them the power Democrats
are handcuffed when they're in the minority, and guess we
would like the theatrics, and guess we would like them
to resist in protest and blocking all kinds of shit.

Speaker 10 (01:50:19):
But the math is still the math.

Speaker 9 (01:50:21):
And so eighty nine million people sat out in twenty
twenty four, and polling is shown that eighty three percent
of them motherfuckers have the audacity to not approve of
Donald Trump's performance, but they did not vote, And so
guess what now we're all stuck with it. And so
now is the time to not just put our foot
up the Democrats asses and say fight, but also turn

(01:50:43):
to our neighbors, say, neighbor, get your ass out and vote.
If we want to make a change, we have to
do that because if these elections come and go and
Republicans win, the Matt tells Republicans, keep doing what you're doing,
keep dismantling the government. They ain't gonna do shit. Yeah
they'll scream at town halls, yeah the.

Speaker 10 (01:51:00):
Drag you on Twitter.

Speaker 9 (01:51:01):
But at today when the rubber hits the road, and
it's time for them to put their money and their
votes where their mouth is and get us out of power.

Speaker 10 (01:51:08):
We ain't got shit to worry about.

Speaker 1 (01:51:11):
That's right, folks.

Speaker 2 (01:51:13):
We told you all about yesterday We had Spike Leon
talking about, of course the DoD removing the removing the
pages regarding Jackie Robinson. Well, that's been a little fallout
that Pentagon spokesman who issued that really idiotic statement.

Speaker 1 (01:51:32):
He's been sidelining.

Speaker 2 (01:51:38):
John July Yacht something like that, y'all, because this is
how dumb this man is.

Speaker 1 (01:51:43):
He actually released the statement. This is what he released.

Speaker 2 (01:51:48):
He said, as Secretary Head said, as said, DEI is
dead at the Defense Department. Discriminatory equity ideology is a
form of vote cultural Marxism that there's no place in
our military. It divides the force, erodes unit cohesion, and
interferes with the services core war fighting mission. Repleased by
the rapid compliance across the department with the Director of
removing DEI content from all platforms. In the rare cases

(01:52:11):
that content is removed either deliberately or by mistake that
is out of the clearly outlined scope of the director.
That we instruct the components and they correct the content
according Now now he also issued this is actually a broader statement.
He said, every one of the defensial Department loves Jackie

(01:52:32):
Robinson as well as the Navajo Cole Talkers, the Tuskegee Airmen,
the Marines at Ewojima, and so many others. We salute
them for their strong and in many cases, herald service
to our country.

Speaker 1 (01:52:42):
Full stop.

Speaker 2 (01:52:43):
We do not view or highlight them through the prism
of immutable characteristics such as race, ethnicity, or sex. We
do so only by recognizing their patriotism and dedication to
the war fighting mission, like every like every other American
who has worn the uniform, well, first for you, dumb ass,
and he's getting he's getting ripped by this statement of

(01:53:05):
Nolan and the reason he's a dumb ass.

Speaker 1 (01:53:08):
Let's see, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:53:09):
A little hard to remove race from the Tuskegee Airmen,
because it was.

Speaker 1 (01:53:19):
I mean, it's kind of hard.

Speaker 2 (01:53:21):
It's kind of hard to remove race from Jackie Robinson's
service in the US Army when Jackie Robinson fought a
court marshall in Texas for refusing to sit.

Speaker 1 (01:53:39):
In the back of the bus. So when you're.

Speaker 2 (01:53:43):
Talking about these, it's kind of hard to remove race
from US Army. Veteran Medgar Evers, who was gunned down
by a racist white supremacist in Byron Della beck with.

Speaker 1 (01:54:02):
It's kind of hard.

Speaker 2 (01:54:03):
This is how dumb these people are, because no, we're
only going to recognize their patriotism.

Speaker 1 (01:54:11):
Oh damn, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:54:13):
How do we ignore that the Armed Forces was segregated
when Jackie Robinson was there and a Tuskegee Airman And
it wasn't until a Harry Truman executive order in nineteen
forty eight that de segreatees the military. But we're just
going to move that race stuff aside and we're just

(01:54:34):
going to focus on them being a great warrior. I
see what his dumb ass got sidelined.

Speaker 11 (01:54:43):
Yeah, it's a complete it's delusional and its intentional erasure.
The MAGA folks have a really hard time confronting their
own racism, confronting their own allegiance to white supremacy, and they.

Speaker 4 (01:54:58):
Hide behind the First Amendment. And this is what we are.

Speaker 11 (01:55:02):
I can tell you, you know, I went to high
school in Pasadena. You know, my family lost a lot
of we lost properties in the Eaton Canyon fire. And
I can tell you that this was definitely a wound,
another wound for the community because you know, Jackie Robinson
is a product of Pasadena, and so this felt like
another It felt like a double slight against blackness, right

(01:55:25):
because you have a whole community that still supports him.
I remember winning Miss Black Pasadena at Altadena and one
of the proudest parts of that honor was the way
that they parade you through the Jackie Robinson Center, you know.
And so he's part of the black culture in Pasadena
and Altadena, and so I was happy to see all
the pushback. I was definitely part of the pushback, and

(01:55:48):
then especially being in security and defense.

Speaker 4 (01:55:50):
Now, this is what I will tell you.

Speaker 11 (01:55:52):
You talk to some enlisted folks and some of the
things that they will say that they had a problem
with diversity equit inclusion has absolutely nothing to do with
highlighting heroes who went through the impossible to do the phenomenal.
That is a big difference. And context matters, history matters,
and what they are doing is trying to intentionally erase

(01:56:16):
their culpability and racist and violent behavior.

Speaker 4 (01:56:21):
That's the reality.

Speaker 11 (01:56:22):
And they are using diversity, equity and inclusion as a
shield for that.

Speaker 4 (01:56:28):
Now, you know, like I said, there are some enlisted
folks who say that some.

Speaker 11 (01:56:32):
Of the stuff regarding diversity ECU inclusion for them went
too far.

Speaker 4 (01:56:36):
But it is not.

Speaker 12 (01:56:37):
This bugle says the Navajo code writers.

Speaker 10 (01:56:47):
Do we not say.

Speaker 8 (01:56:49):
Anything about that?

Speaker 12 (01:56:50):
They weren't white, They were Native Americans and this is
how they helped out in World War two because they
were able to talk in codes. What about in Japan?
The guy who put the flag up in Japan? Jimmy, y'all,
i'll miss.

Speaker 8 (01:57:06):
His name up? What about him? So there's no way
you can escape race.

Speaker 12 (01:57:13):
I feel like they're offended because a lot of these
people were talking about the majority of people that did
so good under certain circumstances were people of color, So
erasing that that's something you can never erase. Black history
is American history, and unfortunately, can somebody tell me what

(01:57:35):
the hell is white history? Do they have history?

Speaker 8 (01:57:39):
No, they don't.

Speaker 10 (01:57:46):
You know, listen, the gas slighting is not gonna work.

Speaker 9 (01:57:48):
It's funny how y'all want to be colorblind when it
comes to our hero and the racism and abhorring conditions.

Speaker 10 (01:57:56):
That they overcame to be people of note.

Speaker 9 (01:57:59):
But when it comes to d I and trying to
make d I the face of didn't earn all of
a sudden, you see our black asses all of a sudden,
you want to always coloreds and woman this and you
know whatever else this, get.

Speaker 10 (01:58:09):
The hell out of here.

Speaker 9 (01:58:10):
If we can be the face of DEI when you
want to say that we didn't earn it, then we
can be the face of d I when it's definitely
earned it, and we can definitely get our just due
for being black people, specifically Jackie Robinson and the Tuskegee
Airman or the six Strip Blake too. They haven't gone
around to that that's not checked and racing that history.

Speaker 10 (01:58:30):
Thank you, Tyler Perry.

Speaker 9 (01:58:32):
Then give us our props, But that's not what they're
trying to do. This is a white nationalist, white supremacist
administration who, if they can get away with it, and
luckily that we're not allowing them to, will erase every
single accomplishment that we have and try to make us
the post A Board a failure when it's really white
men who are the primary face of failure in this country.

Speaker 10 (01:58:54):
Look at the Confederate War.

Speaker 2 (01:58:56):
Okay, so, folks, I was going to and I'm so
I'm so glad you brought the Confederate War up. So
I was gonna I was gonna play one of my
interviews with Julana Jones. I'm gonna save that for tomorrow
and uh in Monday.

Speaker 1 (01:59:11):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:59:11):
And I told y'all yesterday about that racist Confederate Confederate
memorial that's on the state grounds of Texas Capital. Well,
when I was leaving today, on the other side, uh,
there's a memorial regarding uh Texas African American history.

Speaker 1 (01:59:29):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:59:29):
But but there's something that's really interesting though, because on
one side of it they salute two men of African
descent who helped Texas win independence from Mexico. And you're
gonna hear me talk about because in the placard it
also shows how they were. They were free black men,

(01:59:50):
but then they had severe limits on them operating with hell,
it sound like they were in prison. So I want you,
I want y'all to see this because I need you
to understand. This is why history is so important, This
is why factual statues and memorials are so important, because
if you don't and let me just say this real quick,

(02:00:12):
and I mentioned this yesterday and I'm gonna try to
be as well. I can't even do that. So y'all, y'all,
people who don't want me to cuss I'm gonna let
y'all just turn it down for ten seconds because I
just I got no I got no other way to
say this, because it actually ticks me off.

Speaker 1 (02:00:33):
So if y'all don't want y'all.

Speaker 2 (02:00:35):
To hear me, because I want y'all turn TV down
five four, three to one. I am sick of these
fucking idiots who say when a black statue is raised,
it's performative or they say it's symbolic.

Speaker 1 (02:00:56):
I'm sick of you assholes.

Speaker 2 (02:00:59):
Why, because we have been subjugated to racist statues and
memorials in history. When I landed in the Austin Airport,
I go to baggage claim, look to my right. Do
you know why I looked at my right. I didn't
take a photo this time, because I always do. But
there's a statue of the late Congresswoman Barbara Jordan in

(02:01:23):
the Austin airport. When I go through Atlanta, I always
see that placard, that that plaque of Mayor Maynard Jackson.
When I go through one of the term my biggest
terminal e in Houston, there's a there's a bust of
Congressman Mickey Leland. When I travel, I always stop when

(02:01:46):
I go through Washington, DC's train station, I always stop
and pay respects to that statue of labor leader A
Philip Randolph. I am always every no matter where I go,
I do that because these are monuments to our people,

(02:02:08):
our history, and what we have to understand is that.
And while you're gonna see this video in the second
while I was standing there.

Speaker 1 (02:02:16):
When I was standing there.

Speaker 2 (02:02:18):
A little white girl came up with her family that
was a Latino girl would look like to be her grandparents,
and he and I had a conversation about the races.
He was telling me about how the Texas Rangers basically
stole his grandfather's laying Nathan, get off the property and leave.

(02:02:39):
Black people have that history as well. So he and
I were having this conversation about this memorial. This is
why this stuff is so important, why we must erect
these statues and memorials, because these people they want what
we have right now, and it's all tied together by
stripping these pages and getting rid of these stories, these monuments.

(02:03:01):
They want the framing to be one of whiteness. They
want to say, no, we're not going to talk about,
you know, the first female combat pilot, because we don't
want women to know about that historic woman it was
a white woman.

Speaker 1 (02:03:16):
They don't want that.

Speaker 2 (02:03:17):
So these people, they want a world Donald Trump, Peter
Heak said JD.

Speaker 1 (02:03:23):
Vance.

Speaker 2 (02:03:24):
They want a world where it's all about white men
and we black people need to stop this bullshit of oh,
well that's just symbolism. We need to check, we need this.
Well how about you try to get both. Why don't
we have to piss on black monuments and black statues

(02:03:45):
and black plaques to go well, that's just symbolism.

Speaker 1 (02:03:50):
Well how about some of y'all. And here's the other deal.

Speaker 2 (02:03:52):
I'm just go ageat and say that every one of
you assholes who say, oh, it's symbolism, I want to see.

Speaker 1 (02:03:59):
Your voter rigist card.

Speaker 2 (02:04:03):
I want to see how many elections your punk ass
voted in. Because see, it's a lot of people out
here who love talking shit and they don't go vote,
but they always got something to say, and so it's
sort just gets on my nerves when they do that.
So I want to play this video for y'all because

(02:04:24):
many of you men never have seen this, but I
want you to understand that this is why this show matters.

Speaker 1 (02:04:31):
And while we do this because.

Speaker 2 (02:04:33):
There are black museums all across this country, small medium laws,
there are black monuments and statues, and I every single
one of you should make an effort that when you
visit a place and you seek out, you take a photo,
you do whatever, and you share it because our people

(02:04:53):
need to understand that our history is damn.

Speaker 1 (02:04:57):
Sure just as important. Watch this.

Speaker 2 (02:05:00):
So, folks, I'm here on the Texas grounds. So remember
I told you all about that Confederate Confederate memorial that's
literally right there, so right across from this his African
American History memorial.

Speaker 1 (02:05:13):
And so what you'll see with this particular memorial is you.

Speaker 2 (02:05:19):
See how they have these depictions of battleticoliad Texas statehood
and how people of African descent fought for Texas Revolution.
So you got Hendrick Arnold, you got Samuel McCullough, and
so you'll see right here, well they have this battle

(02:05:39):
for Texas independence from Mexico, and laying out of course,
this particular history. Now keep in mind, the Texas Revolution
was about slavery. I wanted to free themselves from Mexico
because Mexico had actually gotten rid of slavery. And so
there again there are people who were who were people

(02:06:00):
of African descent who were fighting alongside these folks the
Texas Army, and they actually were fighting for the segregationists,
all right. And so here you have this monument again
to these African Americans, who people of Africa decent, who fought.
So that's why you'll see right here, Hendrik Arnold and

(02:06:24):
Samuelculla played important roles in the Texas Revolution and the
formation of the Republic of Texas after Texas became independent.
Both were considered free blacks, but they were they were
placed under severe legal restrictions. So isn't that amazing Here
they actually fought for the state and they actually they.

Speaker 7 (02:06:44):
Actually were restricted.

Speaker 1 (02:06:47):
You see how crazy thiss is.

Speaker 2 (02:06:49):
And so this is the reality what it meant to
be black in these slave territories. Now when you go
on his other side of this particular monument, then you're
gonna see the focus on emancipation. So this is a
beautiful monument here. So you see here the depiction of

(02:07:10):
people enslaved people with African that's sin. You see of
course the cotton right there. You see they got this
Texas Capitol here. So then you go down here and
you see these placards where they lay out exactly when
the first people of African descent first came. Then you
see right here slavery during the Mexican National Era, and

(02:07:31):
so this monument actually details that particular history. So I'm
going to give you a wider view of this. And
so when you look at this amazing monument and what
it looks like, and so what they've done up here,
so zooming here, so you see they have this black

(02:07:51):
woman holding the emancipation proclamation. Give you a better view
of her, so you see that in her hand. And
so then of course when you come down here you
see all of these different images right here as well.
And now we go back down here. I told you

(02:08:13):
we had slavery doing. Well, first of us, go back
over here. It's slavery doing the Mexican National Era, and
so this details the slavery. Then it details again more
slavery during the republican early statehood of Texas. Then over
here it details the Civil War, emancipation in juneteenth, all

(02:08:37):
the information right here, and then it has reconstruction and
the post slavery experience, okay, right here, and then we
have post reconstruction challenges and achievements. So got all this
right here, and then you have major achievements of African

(02:08:57):
Americans or people of African descent here in Texas.

Speaker 1 (02:09:02):
So you see, they got all different people.

Speaker 2 (02:09:05):
Bessie Coleman, Doors Steing Miller, Barbara Shortan, Mickey Leland, they
got all of this. And so this monument was fought
for the folks here to erect in order to set
the record straight when it came to Texas history. And
so and because again and it sists right across from

(02:09:29):
that memorial.

Speaker 1 (02:09:30):
Over there to those white domestic.

Speaker 2 (02:09:32):
Terrorists who kept these folks over here, who wanted to
keep the people enslaved. So understand what Texas independence was
all about. Texas independence, okay, right there that Texas capital
fourteen feet higher than the US capital. Texas independence was
all about maintaining the institution of slavery US. It must

(02:10:01):
be something, it must be something political says to be
a person of African descent who fought for Texas's independence
when the goal of Texas getting its independence was because
they wanted to keep slavery.

Speaker 12 (02:10:18):
They take this is a problem with taking civics out
of education, away out of the classrooms. That was thank
you for showing that. It almost made me cry. This
is not the only story that we hear. We fight
so hard for independence, there's I can go back, even
here in North Carolina what we've did. It's important for

(02:10:43):
us to understand and know our history because if we
don't like what's going on right.

Speaker 8 (02:10:49):
Now, we go along with people who want to repeat the.

Speaker 4 (02:10:52):
Ugly part of our history.

Speaker 12 (02:10:55):
So again, thank you for showing that. But it just
I don't know, I'm a little bit knocked down from
that because it's you go back and forth with your
people about the importance of like what's going on right now.

Speaker 8 (02:11:08):
You know, they don't want to bring up the part
how Trump is.

Speaker 12 (02:11:12):
Literally just gutting our civil rights, our voting rights.

Speaker 8 (02:11:15):
They don't know that.

Speaker 12 (02:11:17):
But if you bring up something about money, they know
about that and the fact that a white racist ass
man can throw money at us.

Speaker 8 (02:11:24):
At our people and get their.

Speaker 12 (02:11:28):
Attention instead of what's going like the negative part, like this, Okay,
we're going to give you some money, but at the
same time, we're taking your rights away.

Speaker 8 (02:11:35):
But that was twelve hundred dollars, What the hell?

Speaker 12 (02:11:39):
I mean it is a lot to some people, but
that shit doesn't last your freedom, your civil rights, women rights,
that is worth more than anything. So you know that's
what happens when it take civics out of education.

Speaker 2 (02:11:58):
Well, at the end of the day, Uh, this is
on us, and this is where we are going to
have to make sure that we're telling the story. Our
kids understand it, their kids understand it because their desire
is for this generation, the next one, and the next
one and all in the future, not to truly know,

(02:12:22):
as Paul Harvey always said, now the rest of the story.

Speaker 4 (02:12:29):
H listen. You know, this is something that I think
a great deal about.

Speaker 11 (02:12:34):
And you know, I would I would go as far
as to say that as Americans, we don't appreciate history, right,
and what the what the maggas are doing? They are mythicizing,
they are they are making up stuff about their greatness, right,
I mean that that's that's what drives why supremacy.

Speaker 4 (02:12:53):
It's just made up myth And.

Speaker 11 (02:12:55):
So when I think about that, I think about, Okay,
what's gonna what's to get younger black folks interested in
this history? You know, is it to tell these kind
of stories about you know, the people that fart for
their freedoms, you know, to be to preach, to preach
at them, right.

Speaker 4 (02:13:13):
To kind of.

Speaker 11 (02:13:15):
Talk at them more than trying to figure out how
to make this a vibe essentially, you know, like I
think that this is an opportunity for some level of
a new Black renaissance to emerge, where it's more inclusive,
where we include all the things, you know, not just

(02:13:35):
the high brow black things. But I definitely do think
that this is an opportunity to figure out how to
engage with the generations of black folks that we have lost.
You know, they're just not interested in these things. I
can still recite Langston Hughes poems that I was reciting
in the fifth grade, you know, but that's just not

(02:13:58):
the world that we live in.

Speaker 4 (02:13:59):
So how do we meet this moment?

Speaker 11 (02:14:01):
You know, how do we talk about black history as
it sits inside of American history, as it is the
foundation of American history. How do we talk about it
beyond preaching? How do we talk about it beyond chastitize.
That's what we need to figure out, and I gotta go.

Speaker 2 (02:14:19):
It is It is about educating recep pure and simple.
It's about educating pere and simple recips.

Speaker 9 (02:14:27):
Oh absolutely, you know, to your original point. You know,
this isn't a zero sum game. Sometimes we get caught
up in that. Are people who want to say we
all need symbolism, we need action.

Speaker 10 (02:14:37):
Republicans leave no stone unturned.

Speaker 9 (02:14:40):
We start off the show talking about the dismantling of
the Department of Education. People should go to Project twenty
twenty five dot observer. It shows that there are over
thirty agencies in which Project twenty twenty five has objectives.
Forty one percent a Project twenty twenty five's object actives

(02:15:00):
are already met or in progress. And so the idea
that we can only do one or two things at
a time the only thing, the idea that we can
only ask for one or two things at a time
is completely a foreign concept to our opposition, and they
are winning and fighting every single battle that our side

(02:15:25):
is too busy tailing people.

Speaker 10 (02:15:26):
We only be focused on that. We need to be
focused on that.

Speaker 9 (02:15:28):
Like Terrence Woodbury said earlier, we got to focus on everything. Now,
can one hundred percent of us focus one hundred percent
of things?

Speaker 10 (02:15:34):
No, but know your strength and know your lane.

Speaker 9 (02:15:38):
This show has a huge lane that it's feeling and
telling our stories and helping us not leave. So many
of these stones unturned. And so anybody who is against statues,
anybody that's against our history, is against us, or is
for us repeating the mistakes, reinventing the wheel when we
already have the blueprint and help the other side win.

Speaker 10 (02:16:01):
And my show is doing that as well. A recent
CARB show on serious accent.

Speaker 1 (02:16:07):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (02:16:08):
So yeah, well, first first receives recent one thing you
didn't do, you didn't tell people?

Speaker 9 (02:16:14):
When it comes on Saturday's two pm through to four pm,
it's a live call in shout. So if you got
some smoke bringing to me, honey, I'll take it. I'll
bring it back with you.

Speaker 10 (02:16:24):
Let's get it.

Speaker 3 (02:16:25):
I'm off on Saturdays.

Speaker 8 (02:16:26):
It's got so I'm gonna have to check.

Speaker 3 (02:16:27):
You out, all y'all.

Speaker 2 (02:16:31):
Let me think all the padd lists. Nola had the bounce.
I told Nolan you had to bounced out being long winded. Yeah, no,
I'm gonna take this shot at you. Uh huh so
ify they know them to take political cens Let me
think recy. I appreciate y'all being on today's show. Thank
you son.

Speaker 1 (02:16:46):
Oh so now you got you what what not?

Speaker 14 (02:16:48):
Now?

Speaker 1 (02:16:49):
Now you on muted your microphone? You got more to say.

Speaker 12 (02:16:52):
Yeah, damn right, hold on, look, I'm sure I finally
got after twenty dawn months.

Speaker 8 (02:16:57):
Just f y.

Speaker 12 (02:16:58):
I don't know if y'all can see it, but yeah,
after twenty damn months.

Speaker 1 (02:17:01):
Come on, come on a twine go there you go,
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I had an on yesterday, but you know, we have
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That's what I'm saying.

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