Trump tariff fallout, S.C. lawmakers' assault on DEI, MLK's Last Speech

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Good Digday, April seven, twenty twenty five, coming up on

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Rolling Unfield streaming live on the Blackstart Network that twice
in Peach primally convicted Fella n Tief. Donald Trump has
slept tariff on all imports, ignited a global trade war.
Oh my god, Maga is breaking down. Even some of
his people are just complaining, crying. You got poor little
Meghan McCain sound like a fool because she's supported all

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the policies. Now she's complaining. Oh, we're gonna show you
all of the drama. And yet another attempt to whitewashing
American history of the National Park Service under this racist administration.
Remove Harry Tupman's photo and quote from his website. They
also are reimagining the underground railroad. Plus you have them

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targeting the National Museum of African American History and Culture.
Will talk with Chicago pastor after Odin Moster Third recently
told his congregation we.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Will not be erased.

Speaker 9 (04:11):
Secondary State Marco Rubio says, all US visas from South
Sudanese passport holders are revoked, effected immediately because they won't
just accept whatever the Trump votes give them. Also, why
is our state department declaring the Bahamas a risk for
travelers and jays where our money segment. I'll talk with

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of independent black owned media lots the breakdown. Also over
the weekend, individual half their marches. Reverend Doctorship William Barber,
he spoke here at d C. Will hear what he
had to say. It is time to bring the funk
on rolling unfiltered on the Black Study Network.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
Let's go.

Speaker 10 (04:55):
Then whatever and we to believes he's right on time
and it's rolling. Best believe he's going putting it out
from his Boston news to politics with entertainment, just bookcakes.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
He's going, it's.

Speaker 10 (05:19):
It's stolen Montage.

Speaker 11 (05:24):
Rolling. He's Poky Schrest, She's real the best.

Speaker 6 (05:31):
No, he's rolling Montaigne.

Speaker 9 (05:42):
Monte can be. We be as clear as possible. Magas stupid.
I mean, I don't mean they are little stupid. I
mean these people are really absolutely positively stupid.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
Donald Trump ran.

Speaker 9 (06:02):
On, Oh, I'm gonna jack up terrrists. We're gonna make
so much money from the terrors. And these idiots believe
that twice impeach criminally convicted felling in cheap the con
man hauls so foul for bankruptcy multiple times. See, they
held him up as this amazing economic genius. Oh he's

(06:23):
a businessman. Oh man, what's wrong with y'all? We're gonna
do so much better from him.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
Now.

Speaker 9 (06:29):
All of a sudden, we've ignited a global trade war.
The stock market has collapsed. People are saying it's gonna
be a recession. JP Morgan raised its odds of a
US recession to sixty percent, up from forty percent. Other
banks have similarly adjusted through economic forecasts downward. We literally
are witnessing an economic catastrophe, but hashtag we tried to

(06:51):
tell you today's morning. Trading in Europe began with a
sharp decline. German Dat's failed by more than six point
five percent, the Brits five percent, the French six percent.
These losses are a continuation of the wave of horror.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
He called it Liberation Day.

Speaker 9 (07:07):
As a result of the tears, Asian markets have already
demonstrated a sea of red. Japanese Nikai at the peak
was down almost nine percent, and Hang Singing in Hong
Kong field by more than thirteen percent. South three and
Taiwan also in a deep red zone. Chinese investors a
warning on Terrible Monday. Remember he said on Wednesday, I'm

(07:27):
gonna jack up Chinese tears even more.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
The folks at Fox News are.

Speaker 9 (07:32):
Having to own up to, oh my god, what the
hell is going on?

Speaker 3 (07:37):
Things are going bad.

Speaker 12 (07:45):
You are introducing companion legislation.

Speaker 13 (07:48):
Investors have seen in their lifetime when this crash is done.
But you don't want to try to be a hero
and pick the exact bottom. So if your position correctly
could you could be nibbling today.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
I prefer to call it to collapse rather than a crash.
That's a very emotive word, folks. That was just that
was one Fox show. We ain't done yet.

Speaker 9 (08:10):
Here's Maria Bartiromo finally admitting might be a might be recession.

Speaker 14 (08:15):
With Senator can't well Christ we will see some products
actually be raised in price because companies will pass on
the cost of tariffs to consumers.

Speaker 15 (08:30):
I would expect that. That's why you have some people
saying that we could see a recession, we'll see a
growth slowdown. This morning, Nancy Lazarre, who I follow very
closely and I think she's terrific.

Speaker 6 (08:40):
From Piper Sandler.

Speaker 15 (08:41):
She says, if the tariffs stay in place for at
least the next six months, even if only fifty percent
of the price shocks where we're seeing products go higher
in price show through the economy.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
US real GDP.

Speaker 15 (08:54):
Is on track to decline about one percent in the
second quarter and in the third quarter, with unimp deployment rising.

Speaker 9 (09:02):
Relly, I thought this was supposed to be the Golden age.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
What happened?

Speaker 9 (09:09):
Nebraska Congressman Don Bacon even he is like, yo, Congress,
we got to have a lot of business.

Speaker 12 (09:16):
I know you are introducing companion legislation to what Senator
can't well just laid out for us. But as I
understand it, in the House, Republican leaders have already restricted
the ability to reign and changes to the Mexico, Canada
and China tariffs. They tucked language into the continuing resolution.
Does that get in your way when you are trying

(09:39):
to now claw back some congressional control of tariffs?

Speaker 16 (09:44):
Well, for so, good morning, Margaret, thanks for having me on,
and I enjoyed listening to Sir Cantwell. I support the
legislation that center Grassley. Sir Cantwell, we have total sub
Republicans in the Senate, and I have some beginning support
on the House side, which will unveil the my It
will be harder to pass us in the House, no doubt.
I think if we get sixty votes in the Senate,

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they'll put pressure on the House to look at us.
And if we continue to see the stock market go
a certain direction, or if we see inflation or unemployment
shift in a bad way, I think then this bill
becomes a very viable bill. So it will not pass
tomorrow or maybe in the next couple of weeks, but
this will be in the queue that we can use

(10:25):
and It's time that Congress restores its authorities here and
the constitution is clear. The House, in the Senate Congress
has the power of terraffts and taxes, and we gave
some of that power to the executive branch. And I
think in hindsight that was a mistake.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
Ah, he's saying, that's a mistake.

Speaker 9 (10:44):
Well, guess what LI lived, Mike Johnson to speak of
the House. He doesn't think so, y'all want to see
an idiot who's in a coat.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Listen to this.

Speaker 8 (10:57):
We have to give the president space as strategy is
playing out. It's been less than I think.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
You go back his strategy. I love this. His strate
is playing out.

Speaker 9 (11:07):
The economy is tanking, and he's like, but things are
just going swimmingly. Well, uh really, hmmm, that's interesting, Congressman
Democrat leaders Hakim Jeffries said this lead.

Speaker 8 (11:24):
Thank you, James.

Speaker 9 (11:26):
The new trade representatives testified for the Center House.

Speaker 17 (11:29):
Committees the next couple of days.

Speaker 8 (11:31):
What would be your question to Rear about these terrors?

Speaker 18 (11:37):
The Trump tariffs, which are a tax on the American people,
are so reckless, so unstrategic, so lacking in any sophistication
that the only conclusion that one can draw is that

(12:00):
Donald Trump and Republicans are intentionally tanking the economy. Is
it because, as Donald Trump has indicated that during tough
economic times, the rich get richer and it's a buying opportunity.
Those are Trump's words? Can you confirm?

Speaker 8 (12:23):
But what's your question to.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
These people?

Speaker 9 (12:27):
These people literally are idiots, and oh, he's executing his plan.
I don't what is he actually executing? I don't understand.
Does anybody know what this fool is doing? And what
was cracking up to me is that they literally spout

(12:52):
lies with no backup whatsoever. Here is the liar in chief,
Donald Trump city in the Oval Office, lying about the
European Union impact the United States. Again, what y'all about
to hear is fifty three seconds of utter, complete bullshit.

Speaker 19 (13:15):
Prester, you said that Mayo has said that they have
offered zero for zero tariffs on cars and industrial goods.

Speaker 11 (13:23):
Is that not a not? Well, the EU, No, it's not.

Speaker 8 (13:26):
The EU has been very tough over the years.

Speaker 5 (13:30):
It was I always say it was formed to really
do damage to the United States and trade. That's the
reason it was formed. It was formed with all of
the countries from Europe. I guess most of them, not
all of them, but most of them. And they formed
together to create a little bit of a monopoly situation,
to create a unified force against the United States.

Speaker 20 (13:52):
But trade.

Speaker 5 (13:53):
So they have NATO, which is largely the same countries,
and they took advantage of a dollar wise and militarily
until I got there. You know, I was able to
get six hundred billion dollars from NATO.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Yeah, so, first, the European Union was not created to
pen lives the United States. That's a lie.

Speaker 9 (14:26):
Then the idiot said, they have NATO, We're in NATO,
We created NATO. How about you read a book, how

(14:49):
about you actually study something? But no, because that then
you're gonna love this one. Here, So Trump gets asked,

(15:09):
you know, you guys slap some tars on some islands
that are uninhabited where penguins actually exist. But that was
one country that was missing from the tariffs. Putin's Russia.
This is what the Russian agent masquerading as the commander

(15:33):
in chief actually said to that.

Speaker 19 (15:35):
Listen a little bit about your meeting potential meeting with
Vladimir Putin?

Speaker 8 (15:42):
Do you still plan to meet with him?

Speaker 19 (15:44):
Could that happen in Saudi Arabia, and maybe you could
elaborate as well a little bit. I'm not providing terrorists
on Russia, sir.

Speaker 5 (15:50):
So the reason we're not talking about tariffs with Russia
is because we're not doing business essentially with Russia because
they were in a war and not happy about what's
going on with the bombing. Is a bombing like crazy
right now. I don't know what's happening there. That's not
a good situation. So we're meeting with Russia, we're meeting

(16:13):
with Ukraine, and we're getting short of close. But I'm
not happy with all the bombing that's going in the last.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
Week or so. Confused. I'm confused.

Speaker 9 (16:22):
So we have slapped significant tears on our allies, but
not Russia. Does somebody want to explain to me? Why
not Russia? Just anybody want to explain you know what

(16:46):
that problem is? Then you always have got to count
on these really stupid people. Do you know who's one
of these really stupid people? Meghan McCain. Now, let's be
real clear. The only reason we're even talking about Meghan

(17:08):
McCain is because of her father, her father, her father,
her father, her father, her father, her father, her father,
her father, her father.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
That's it, that's all. She is the poster child for
NEPO babies. That's what she is. She's a NEPO baby.

Speaker 9 (17:27):
She's only gotten her jobs because of her father. We
only know about her because of her father. That's how
she got her.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Media jobs, because of her father.

Speaker 9 (17:42):
So Fox News, MSNBC, the view, like I mean, I mean,
we could just go down the line, y'all, all of
these play, all these people hired Megan McCain not because
she's right, not because she's smart, because she the daughterar

(18:02):
sinner John McCain, so you.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
Can always count on. It's just sheer stupidity for Megan McCain.

Speaker 9 (18:13):
Now, when I was at CNN, Megan McCain says she
was a fan of mine. She has since gotten upset
because I've criticized her because she's blocked to be on Twitter. Okay,
but when you say dumb shit, I just don't have
the capacity to ignore dumb shit from NEPO babies, who

(18:38):
then criticize other people for using their name.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
To get things.

Speaker 9 (18:44):
So if you want to understand the sheer stupidity of MAGA,
I believe Meghan McCain says it all really two people,
Meghan McCain and Bill.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
Ackman, the billionaire.

Speaker 9 (19:00):
So at seven to twenty six pm on March fourth,
twenty twenty five, Meghan Nepo baby McCain posted this on Twitter.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
Inject every single one of.

Speaker 9 (19:17):
These policy proposals directly into my veins.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
In my veins.

Speaker 9 (19:26):
That is Megan McCain saying everything everything that Donald Trump
is proposing, inject into my veins.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
Don't.

Speaker 9 (19:38):
I'm not gonna take it orally out of the warned suppository.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
Put it right into my vein. That's what Meghan McCain said.

Speaker 9 (19:54):
At seven am on April seventh, twenty twenty five, Meghan
Nepo baby McCain posted this, I'm not pretending to be
a financial expert, no shit, But there are so many
hypocriticals talking heads on TV saying they don't care about

(20:18):
losing money or being in financial pain for a while.
Most of you are married to finance bros, come from
rich families, Meghan, you come from a rich family or
have huge media contracts, Megan, that's you.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
You have a cushion if shit goes south.

Speaker 9 (20:42):
One of my best friends buys her groceries for her family.
Based on what coupons each store has. I assure you,
a possible recession or huge rise in prices everywhere will
be a different experience for I'm her family than you.

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I don't want people who've already suffered so much to
suffer anymore.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
But hey, that's just that's just me.

Speaker 9 (21:15):
America is the land of plenty, and this is normally
a thing.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
Got a little bit. This is normally a thing.

Speaker 9 (21:24):
The Left does, asking Americans to suffer. I may be
the Emperor's new clothes here, but this.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
Needs to be said. That was Megan McCain. What did Meghan.

Speaker 21 (21:53):
Say, oh, twenty four thirty days early, inject every single
one of these policy proposals directly into my veins.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
That that Megan. That was Megan mcain, the.

Speaker 9 (22:25):
Brilliant analyst, Meghan McCain. So she's now crying because her
friend buys these groceries.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
And it's it's it's it's rough.

Speaker 9 (22:52):
Bill Ackman, the billionaire, decided to attack the Commerce Secretary,
Howard Lutnik, complaining, what the hell is he talking about?

Speaker 3 (23:05):
These tears?

Speaker 9 (23:10):
Now you have this, idiot, If you haven't noticed by now,
I speak the truth, regardless of the consequences to be
personally or what other people think. Then he says, I
have no anger toward themn's just disappointment. I don't think
this was foreseeable. I assumed economic rationality will be paramount.

(23:32):
My bad, he said, y'all, I didn't see this coming,

(23:52):
Kamala did.

Speaker 5 (23:55):
We're doing tariffs in other countries. Other countries are going
to finally, after seventy five years, pay us back for
all that we've done for the world, and the tariff
will be substantial in some cases. I took in billions
and billions of dollars, as you know, from China. In fact,
they never took the tariff off because there was so
much money.

Speaker 22 (24:13):
They can't.

Speaker 5 (24:14):
They would totally destroy everything that they've set out to do.
They're taken in billions of dollars from China and other places.
They've left the tariffs on. When I had it, I
had tariffs, and yet I had no inflation.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
Y'all see common light? Is he really saying this bullshit?

Speaker 9 (24:33):
And does he actually think we are stupid enough to
not hear what.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
He's saying? Top hat are.

Speaker 23 (24:48):
All paying a price for the policies which have resulted
in the Trump Trade tax. We are paying more for
washing machines and shampoos. We are paying more in terms
of our farmers having to eat the cost of having
soybeans that they have been growing rotting in bins. We
are paying more in terms of autoworkers.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
Losing their jobs.

Speaker 23 (25:08):
It has not been smart and has not been in
the best interest of the productivity in the workers of
our country.

Speaker 9 (25:14):
Oh do y'all know when she said that? That was
May thirty first, twenty nineteen. She said that the first
time this idiot was in the old office. Yeah, she
said that then. So this is not when she was running.
This is she said that in twenty nineteen. So if

(25:37):
you're Bill Ackman, how did you not see it? Because
the idiot did the last time we had to cough
up twenty five billion dollars to farmers because of this
dumbasses tear policy. Okay, maybe he wanted something more recent
of Vice presud than Kamla Harris warning America, don't elect
this dumbass because the tables on jack us up.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
Watch.

Speaker 23 (26:02):
Let's be clear that the Trump administration resulted in a
trade deficit one of the highest we've ever seen in
the history of America.

Speaker 11 (26:10):
He invited trade wars.

Speaker 23 (26:12):
You want to talk about his deal with China, what
he ended up doing is under Donald Trump's presidency, he
ended up selling American chips to China to help them
improve and modernize their military. Basically sold us out when
a policy about China should be in making sure the

(26:33):
United States of America wins the competition for the twenty
first century, which means focusing on the details of what
that requires, focusing on relationships with our allies, focusing on
investing in American based technology so that we win the
race on AI, on quantum computing, focusing on what we
need to do to support America's workforce so that we

(26:56):
don't end up on the short end of the stick
in terms of workers rights. But what Donald Trump did,
let's talk about this with COVID, is he actually thanked
President She for what he did during COVID. Look at
his tweet, thank you President She exclamation point when we
know that she was responsible for lacking and not giving

(27:19):
us transparency about the ORG.

Speaker 5 (27:22):
Hmm.

Speaker 9 (27:24):
Teresa Ltdon, the principal and found with TML Communications out
of Philadelphia, do to om Congo, the Bengal Senior Professorial
Lecture School being in National Service American University. Also author
of the book Lies About Black People, how to how
to tell y'all know, Live by Black People.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
There's all buy damn lives. So just last list, last
List and.

Speaker 9 (27:43):
Now Caliber Fair Communication Strates also out.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
Of dcm CO.

Speaker 9 (27:49):
This this real simple. I mean, like she said it,
we predicted it, everybody else talked about it. So all
these people will go, oh my god, I can believe
this is happening where y'all being.

Speaker 24 (28:01):
Yeah, it's so hard to hear Vice President Harris talk
Man because of the opportunity that America wasted by not
putting her in office after all we did, and she
has every right to. I know, people like she shouldn't
say I told you so and everything, But the fact
that the matter is she did. The fact of the
matter is you did. The fact of the matter is

(28:21):
the entire Blackstar Network did, and all of us did,
but America didn't want it. And this idea, you know,
Acman and all of these guys, we didn't know. We
didn't think this was possible. Megan McCain and so on,
y'all knew it was possible because this is exactly what
he ran on and all of these people who don't
want to acknowledge the fact that people didn't want to
vote for a black woman. All the people who don't
want to acknowledge the fact that this man ran on

(28:44):
white male christianhood even though he's the farthest thing away
from a Christian. All of the other Republicans had better
economic policies, you know, better for Republicans, right, All this
man had was tariffs. Tariff was gonna pay for daycare.
Tarist was going to pay for everything. These other guys
had actual policies, and Americans rejected them and voted for him.

(29:04):
So these guys knew exactly what they were getting. They
could have went with the Sansus, they could have went
with Haley Varmaswami. All of these guys, this is what
they wanted. They wanted the bomb Bass. They thought that
they were going to be closer to him and that
they were going to be exempted from everything that he
was going to do that would.

Speaker 25 (29:20):
Hurt other people.

Speaker 24 (29:21):
Because as long as he was going to inflict pain
on other people, deport the illegal criminal aliens, as long
as he was going to give rid of quote unquote
wark policies, they didn't care and now they're realizing that
this man's plan, as you said, Russian agent style, is
to take the entire US economy. How are you going
to see you didn't put sanctions on Russia because they're
at war, but you have sanctions on Ukraine. Everything this

(29:43):
man says is a lie in every way, shape or form.
The question, but you've already answered, is who's he doing
this for? It's clearly not for us.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
I think it very simple. Who is he doing this for? Kelly?

Speaker 9 (29:55):
I'll tell you, well, this is doing I've had multile
people see me this text message. He's taking the economy
because it makes it a lot easy for very rich
people to buy stocks at depressed crisis.

Speaker 26 (30:07):
Absolutely, and it's interesting that you mentioned the economy in
this particular context because as of this morning, if we
had a competent president, he would be declaring today the
start of our recession.

Speaker 11 (30:23):
That's how bad the economy tanked over the weekend. So
it to me like mcconga was talking about, like he
does nothing but lie.

Speaker 26 (30:34):
He has been lying his entire life, and I'm going
to say it like I did during the election season,
and now we need to listen to black women. And
this country was clearly not ready for a black woman president,
because otherwise.

Speaker 11 (30:50):
She would be in office.

Speaker 26 (30:52):
That woman worked three times as hard, got a third
of the result.

Speaker 11 (30:58):
And we have been nitpicking a nitpick and examining under
the microscope of all microscopes as to what went wrong.
Nothing went wrong. You were wrong.

Speaker 26 (31:08):
You were wrong in your thought that a black woman
could not do this job, even though she has proven
time and time again her in her station as Senator,
in her station as AG.

Speaker 11 (31:21):
For California, in all of these roles, that.

Speaker 26 (31:23):
She is able to do what she said she's going
to do and has strategies for such, and nobody wanted
to listen to her.

Speaker 11 (31:32):
So we are here now because you didn't want to
listen to a black woman and what she had to say.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
Well.

Speaker 9 (31:39):
Also, also, let's be clear, a whole bunch of black
men also voted Vice President Kama Harris. Actually two largest
groups were black women and black men, Teresa.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
But again they got what they wanted. Now they're complaining hashtag.

Speaker 27 (31:53):
We try to tell you, yeah that hashad needs to
go viral, and they got a lot of times when
we are listening to Donald Trump and his team, I
think it was actually more impressive is that every time
he goes open in his mouth, they cringe. So if
we're looking at, you know, some of these interviews that

(32:14):
are happening during the day, you know, it's you can
tell what somebody just doesn't want to go to work
today because you just don't know what to expect. And
I think that's what we're seeing right here with Donald
Trump and some of the nonsense just coming out. Listen
to both of my colleagues point, you know, we have
to realize who Donald Trump was talking to. He was

(32:35):
talking to the American that did not understand trade policy,
did not really understand policy or what's going on in
the economy. He was talking to those that with a
simple message of making America great again, no matter what
that looked like to them, he got re elected.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
Indeed.

Speaker 9 (32:56):
Indeed, so that's just Gordon Taris's one thing these fools
you're doing now. We also seeing how they are rewriting history.
When we come back, we'll check with Pastor Otis Manster
third about how these this racist administration really wants to
just dismiss black folks and just make shit up.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
That's the next roller. Other folks on the blackst Network.

Speaker 28 (33:24):
On the next Balance Life with Me, Doctor Jackie, think
about for a moment some of those echy behaviors that
you display every now and then. Are you a petty
beatty or crabby kathy? Where do those less than attractive
traits come from? We all have them, and more importantly,
how do we get rid of them to make certain

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that they don't infect other people?

Speaker 29 (33:47):
Pettiness is something that we all carry. It's just make
sure that you carry it well and you don't use
it to intentionally hurt.

Speaker 28 (33:55):
On the next A Balance Life with Doctor Jackie on
Black Star.

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Speaker 9 (35:49):
So before we start today show, y'all, I went outside
where we are located here, and I took a photo
of what used to be Black Lives Matter Plaza. Now,
I mean you used to go to Black Lives Matter Plaza.
Used to see color, come on, used to see color,
used to see you know, the letters Black Lives Matter
there in gold Well. Now when you go to Black

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Lives Matter Plaza, it looks just like the Republican Party. Pale,
no color. This is emblematic of today's Republican Party. They're
the ones who forced Washington d C. To tear apart
this memorial. It is an effort by them to erase US,
erase monuments, National Park Service.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
What if they do?

Speaker 9 (36:33):
They removed Harry Tubmans photo in quote from their website,
replacing with images of Postal Service stamps that highlight black
white corporation in the secret network and that feature Tugman
among other abolitionists of both races. Now this goes right
the pattern because remember the attack on DEI led to

(36:55):
them removing the the pagents of Jackie Robinson and his
role played the US Army, removing MegaR Evers and others
as well, removing historic women who in combat.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
I mean, we go on and on and on.

Speaker 9 (37:09):
What we have is is a whitewash. We have Donald Trump,
Jadie Vance, Elon Musk and Maga. They really want this
to be a white country. This is really a throwback
to Jim Crow. How they're attacking books, the Navy. They've
all then announced that all of these different books that
they are whacking as well.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
We can go on and on and on.

Speaker 9 (37:30):
So this is truly about erasure, because for them, this
is a white country chicat No pastor, Reverend Otis Marster,
third recent Toes Congregation had a sermon and said we
will not be erased.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
Here's some of that.

Speaker 31 (37:47):
On Thursday, the Trump administration signed an executive order entitled
Quote Restoring Truth and Sanity to American History. This order
targets two institutions, Smithsonian Institution and the Department of Interior.

Speaker 8 (38:04):
This order states, over.

Speaker 31 (38:05):
The past quote over the past decade, Americans have witnessed
a concerted and widespread effort to rewrite American history. This
revisionist movement seeks to undermine the remarkable achievements of the
United States by casting the founding principles and historical milestones
in a negative light. Human happiness is reconstructed as inherently racist, sexist,

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and oppressive.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
End of quote. The executive order.

Speaker 31 (38:34):
Takes specific aim at the National Museum of African American
History and the Museum of Women's History that is yet
to be built in the United States in Washington, d C.
The order specifically directs Vice President JD.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
Vance.

Speaker 31 (38:52):
As I mentioned previously in A five Minutes, he is
an acolyte of the so called philosopher and anti democratic
promoter Curtis, who believes that some races are built for servitude,
and also Peter Tiel, who is a billionaire funder of JD.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
Vance.

Speaker 31 (39:10):
And it should be noted that he is a South
African africaner. And JD Vance has been instructed by the
person who occupies the White House currently but not permanently
named Trump to root out any American divisive ideology and
exhibits that make America look bad. This executive order also

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seeks to reinstall Confederate monuments taken down during the Black
Lives Matter movement.

Speaker 9 (39:44):
Jungers right now is rebend doctor Oti's master third Jungus
with Chicago. Of course, I will the appropriate attire today.
So glad to have you on the show.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
Fred. So let's here's a deal, Product twenty five.

Speaker 9 (40:00):
I laid all this out. This was all by design.
I laid all of this out. I lay all this
out in my book White Fear. Okay, so the book
band in Florida, all of these different things we saw
in two thousand.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
Here's the real deal.

Speaker 9 (40:18):
These white folks have been mad because they are pissed
off with the racial recording that took place with the
murder of George Floyd. They attack Black Lives Matter in
twenty twenty one, the attack CRT and use it during
the election. In twenty twenty two, the attack woke in
twenty twenty three. They attacked DII in twenty twenty four.

(40:42):
It's fundamentally clear. Anybody who doesn't see this is purposely
blind and crazy.

Speaker 7 (40:52):
Absolutely, absolutely, we witnessed this over and over again with
this administration. But this is a movement by not only
conservative forces, but I call them Confederate fanboys. And this
executive order was specifically targeting the National Museum of African

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American History, but it was also designed as a distraction
because the day before, the news cycle was about Signal
Gate and then an executive order targeting again black people.
And it is our responsibility as people of faith, as

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black people to ensure that no one erases our history.
And that is why we placed the National African American Museum,
the National Museum of afri American History.

Speaker 8 (41:49):
Into our budget.

Speaker 7 (41:51):
We had a church conference right in the middle of
worship and said, you know, all those in favor of
doing this, because we will not be erased.

Speaker 9 (42:01):
But there is the problem here, Pastor, and that is
there is something called the Wilson Center. The Wilson Center
was created by Congress. It is a think tank. The
Wilson Center is made up of Republicans and Democrats. And

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what Donald Trump did was he has shrunk this from
one hundred and thirty staffers to four, so it technically
still exists. One of the executive orders he launched targeted
this where he announced that and again, this is something
that Congress created, and he directed the elimination to the

(42:51):
maximum extent consistent with applicable law of the Wilson Center
and other family funded entities. But what they've also now
done the CEO of the Wilson Center Republican fire at
that person. They replaced the board, including Republicans who he
appointed last time. Well, here they've also done they're returning

(43:12):
donor money. I am trying to make warn people this
is what they're going to do to the Smithsonian, the
National Museum African American History and Culture. I believe that
they're going to fire a loney bunch. I believe that
they're going to end up laying a lot of these
people off. I believe that they want to completely destroy

(43:33):
the Number One Attendant Museum in Washington, DC because they
do not like the fact that it tells the true
story of America.

Speaker 7 (43:45):
I agree with you Roland that there is a concerted
effort in reference to a rasure. One of the challenges
that they will face is that the Board of Regents
is seventeen individuals who also are a variety of people,
some Democrat, independent, you name it. This is a public

(44:07):
private partnership and we have authority in terms of protecting
this institution. And that is one why I believe that
faith communities should support the museum and educate the congregation
about what is happening. Two, that we have to also

(44:30):
create spaces where we are teaching history. Choles Defense Fund
does a tremendous job with what is called freedom schools
during the summertime. This is a five alarm fire for
our community to understand that there are forces at work,
and this didn't happen last year, this didn't happen ten
years ago. Ever since the civil rights freedom movement, there

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has been a concerted effort to return America to a
particular moment, mythic moment in history, and the civil rights
movement was an interruption of a white supremacist project, and
they have been trying to regain power since then. I

(45:17):
did a piece for the Church talking about Curtis Jarvin,
the anti democratic so called philosopher who influenced.

Speaker 8 (45:27):
Peter Teele Peter Tiele who then funded JD.

Speaker 7 (45:31):
Vance and Curtis Jarvin has clear white supremacist ideology.

Speaker 8 (45:37):
I did another piece about.

Speaker 25 (45:40):
Louis Bloom.

Speaker 8 (45:41):
I'm sorry Lewis Powell.

Speaker 7 (45:43):
Lewis Powell who wrote the Attack on the American free
market system because he believed that the Civil Rights movement,
what black churches were doing was destroying America.

Speaker 8 (45:56):
That was in nineteen seventy one.

Speaker 31 (46:00):
This is mimo that he wrote in nineteen seventy one
went viral before there was anything we call viral.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
You said, Lewis Powell.

Speaker 8 (46:08):
Yeah, Lewis Powell and Joseph Cors read his mimo.

Speaker 31 (46:12):
When Joseph Corus read the memo, he then took the
money from the Cores beer dynasty that he was a
part of and put that money to build what the
Heritage Foundation Boom. These people have been working because they
witnessed what black people did when we organized, and they

(46:33):
are trying to quote unquote take back what they think
mythically is theirs. And we have to understand some of
the puppet masters that are behind the puppet who is
in the White House.

Speaker 9 (46:47):
The reason I've laid this out in the show that
the reason that they are so adamant about this is
because the Black Lives Matter movement was the first time
in American history that a black movement had a majority

(47:08):
of Americans supporting it. What they saw, never before in
the history of America has a black movement ever had
a majority of Americans agreeing with it. Not doctor King,
not a Philip Randolph, nobody. And what they saw was,
they said, you take that, you take with America becoming

(47:31):
a nation majority people of color by twenty forty three,
depending upon what Latinos do, whether they want to call
themselves white, white Hispanics or not. And all of a sudden,
you had young white people, young Latinos Asian Americans who
now were seeing, as Paul Harvey would say, the rest

(47:54):
of the story.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
And so these conservatives said.

Speaker 9 (47:57):
Oh, no, no, no, hell no, we can have the
hearts and minds of non black people now learning the
true history of America. So they started attacking the sixteen
nineteen project. Trump comes out with the seventeen supporting by

(48:18):
also Robert Woodson, the seventeen seventy six project. Oh, we're
going to create this garden of American heroes. His defending
of them, removing and changing the names of military bases
and removing Confederate symbols and plaques.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
After after ten black people were.

Speaker 9 (48:36):
Killed in Buffalo, you only had one Republican then Illinois
Congressman Adam Kinzinger, support a resolution calling for the end of.

Speaker 3 (48:47):
The end of racism and the end of.

Speaker 9 (48:52):
The target of neo Nazis and white supremacy. Republicans like now, now,
we ain't voting for that. And so they saw a
new generation embracing Black Lives Matter, and they said, oh,
we got to destroy all of this, and so they
would have to BLM. They followed the money. They focus
on dissension. You had right wingers who were infiltrating various events,

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starting fires, creating mayhem, blame me BLM, or it's Antifa.
Then you begin to see again all the attacks. It
was because they said, we kep this thing has gotten
too far, and that's when the book bans. That's when
the targeting of that So they said, we have to

(49:37):
completely destroy the entire black civil rights and economic rights
social justice infrastructure if we are going to maintain this
thing for another fifty two hundred years.

Speaker 8 (49:54):
Now, this is why it's so important what you do, Roland.

Speaker 7 (49:57):
You're creating an ecosystem of not only education, but an
ecosystem of information. Because one of the aspects of this
that we need to understand is what is called techno
capitalism or this new movement by Silicon Valley to create

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an ecosystem that assists those who are quote unquote in
power or think they're in power, and they are utilizing
that ecosystem. An ecosystem that drives fear, an ecosystem that
continues that this mythology that makes.

Speaker 8 (50:36):
White people think that they're actually white, the social construction.

Speaker 7 (50:39):
An ecosystem that is what I call the digital Henrietta
Lacks syndrome where they're taking our data and they say
that they own it, and then in the process they.

Speaker 31 (50:51):
Are attempting an erasure of black people. But this has
been consistent in America since we have been here. Mythology
and the removal of our contributions. And that is why
we cannot depend on other people to tell our story.

Speaker 8 (51:11):
We need what you are doing.

Speaker 7 (51:13):
We need what other people are doing in terms of
creating an ecosystem of education. And that's why I believe
that churches and moss and synagogues and community spaces must
ban together to create spaces where we are telling the story.
I love the African adage that is told. Why is

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it that the lion is always losing in every story?
And the story that the old man shares back with
a young child is simply this.

Speaker 8 (51:49):
When the lion learns to tell his own story, he
will be the hero of the story. Otherwise the hunter
will always come out on top. And we've got to
tell our story.

Speaker 9 (52:01):
That's one of the reasons why I have been imploring
our people, we've got to support black on media because
we're going to be asking somebody else to tell our story.
People all up in arms and upset when MSNBC canceled
Joy and Read. And what I said is when you
own it, the only person who can cancel you as God.

Speaker 25 (52:20):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
Well, what you laid out is critically important. And here's what.

Speaker 9 (52:25):
I hope this is the last question for you. What
is your message to other black churches? Because as I
traveled the country and and and look, our numbers have
been exploding with our subscribers. Somebody put together that somebody
put together a chart, and the chart that they put
together sort of laid out you know who has seen

(52:51):
the growth on YouTube since the inauguration, And they show
folks they put they put uh, they put a blue dot.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (53:07):
They broke it down by red and blue, Republican, Democrat, conservative, liberal.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
However you want to frame that.

Speaker 9 (53:14):
Matter of fact, I had my digital guy keen and
change it uh to put a black bar on ours,
because I said, that's where we that's where we land.
But the whole point here is that when you look
at the growth over since the first quarter, we have
been able to dramatically increase our following uh and in fact,

(53:38):
out of all the people. So this was the chart
fastest growing political and non political adjacent YouTube channels. We
were number twenty one, ahead of the Bulwark, Bernie Sanders,
Piers Morgan, Benny Dons and Jordan Peterson, Robert Reich, Glenn Kirshner,
the New York poet Sam Cedar, Bill O'Reilly, Vox, the

(53:59):
Ruben Report, all these people. The reason this is important
because if we are depending upon folks who don't look
like us, who think like us, then what happens is,
to your point, they control the narrative, but more importantly,
they control the information flow to the hearts and minds.

(54:19):
And so with then we already see this happening with
the algorithm on all the social media channels, because you
click one thing and they're going to flood your feed,
or with Elon Musk, now just force feeding you right
wing content.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
We have to have a counter.

Speaker 7 (54:36):
Yes, absolutely, and that's why I'm excited about what you
are doing. And my message to churches across the nation,
and I first have to give this addendum in reference
to this, that there are there's the black church tradition,

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and then there are churches that have black people. Black
church tradition is the tradition of Harriet Tubman, Frederick Douglass,
is the tradition of Fanny lou Hamer, is the tradition
of Martin King, a prophetic tradition that seeks to really
alleviate suffering of not only.

Speaker 8 (55:14):
Black people, but all people.

Speaker 7 (55:15):
There are churches that that have black people in them
and they are committed to a white evangelic or sometimes
really a capitalism and ecclesiastical garments. So for those that
are part of the Black church tradition, we have a responsibility.
We stand on the shoulders of others. So it is
our responsibility to tell our story. It's our responsibility to
support the Smithsony. It's our responsibility to share with our

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congregants what you're doing Roland and other forms of independent media.
It's our responsibility to educate appropriately. And if you don't
have the information, please don't stand up in the poolpit
and act like you do. Find someone who does, pick
up something known as a book, get the information and

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bring in the necessary experts who can break down certain
issues and policies so that our community can be educated effectively.
The black church is one of the few spaces we
completely control. No one can cut off a grant and

(56:25):
say to us, you can't do that. We control it.
And when the KKK wanted to bomb, they were not
bombing INAACP offices. They bombed churches because they were black controlled.
They bombed, yes, Tulsa in terms of other spaces in there,

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but that was also because it was black controlled.

Speaker 8 (56:49):
So we need to recognize that we already have power.
And the response that is.

Speaker 7 (56:54):
Happening right now is because they witness what happens when
black people are organized, faithful, praying, and know.

Speaker 8 (57:02):
That there is a vision to build in the words
of W. E. B. De Boys, they yet to be
United States of America.

Speaker 9 (57:12):
And the reason I have a mirror in my office
called hashtag black on Media, Managed Media mattergs y'all ship
of a video. The reason, if you're on that mirror,
that we put this whole thing together is old to
black on media. The reason you do not see the
cover of I. B. L. Barnett's newspaper is because not

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only they fire bomb churches, they firebombed her newspaper. She
was writing about lynchings. Then they put a bounty on
her head. And so yes, when you cut off the
information flow, then you're able to control the medium.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
So you laid it out there. So I look forward to.

Speaker 9 (57:55):
What the heck I think I need to come back
to Chicago and visit trendy and we need to do
something together with my book White Fear.

Speaker 25 (58:02):
Let's do it.

Speaker 8 (58:02):
Let's do a book signing, Let's have you educate. You
do such a great job.

Speaker 11 (58:06):
Roland.

Speaker 31 (58:06):
We really appreciate you. The folks at Trinity love you,
and we just continue to do what you're doing.

Speaker 7 (58:13):
Brother, you have a ministry, prophetic media ministry that is
transforming people's lives and we are.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
Grateful appreciate it.

Speaker 9 (58:24):
Fret, thanks a bunch with chat soon, all right, take care,
all right, go to panel here. I mean, this is
the teresa your communications.

Speaker 3 (58:34):
And it's called mass media for a reason. There's a
reason why it's called mass media.

Speaker 9 (58:38):
And we have to wake up to understand that everything
that we see, billboards, television commercials, shows, radio programs, everything
media is design to impact this.

Speaker 6 (59:00):
Yeah, mass media is very important.

Speaker 27 (59:04):
As the brother from Trinity Church was actually explaining one,
I have to say congratulations to uh the analytics there
as it relates to.

Speaker 11 (59:15):
Your podcast, because.

Speaker 27 (59:18):
That is a huge step and actually understand probably the
only media outlet that's really independently owned.

Speaker 17 (59:25):
So congratulations to that.

Speaker 9 (59:26):
Well guess what, ain't nobody else in this list black
other than what sane black? They got Kennison's on here,
so yeah, I'm the only black person on here.

Speaker 27 (59:36):
Yeah, the real the real world of art, they're real black.

Speaker 6 (59:40):
But yeah, as we talk about just you know, even mass.

Speaker 27 (59:43):
Media in some of those areas from digital print, you.

Speaker 11 (59:47):
Know, the podcasting.

Speaker 27 (59:50):
But being consistent is always, you know, the number one
point into making sure that you know, people are following,
people are listening, they're paying atten and I think it
all actually that's how history started, right They started in radio,
started in print, and once the voice was cut, you know,

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especially black voices were cut in history, what happened, Riots
start to happen more out of control, narratives was pushed
for different directions. And so the importance of protecting communications
really means having an educated sender. And I think a
lot of people you know, watch these different podcasts and

(01:00:32):
shows because they're looking for thought leaders to guide them
to different perspectives that they may not know.

Speaker 6 (01:00:40):
So it is, you know, incumbents of us.

Speaker 27 (01:00:43):
You know, I could even say with this shove been
on here probably four plus years. But I'm not on
here because I look good. I'm on here because I'm bringing,
and like our other panels, something to the table from
based upon experience and the education that we received.

Speaker 6 (01:00:58):
So it's a in tandem us to give back.

Speaker 17 (01:01:03):
More importantly, you know, each and every day.

Speaker 9 (01:01:05):
Hey folks, if y'all, if y'all are having some issues
with audio, it's not us for sitting a clean feed.
So some folks are saying you should log out YouTube
or sign out and then sign back in.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
So again that's not on us. Uh, so that's on them. Uh.

Speaker 9 (01:01:19):
The thing, this erasure issue, k Kelly, is so important
because it is by design they want again. If you
strip it away, if you change the narrative, then you're
now creating an alternative, alternative facts for a whole new generation.

(01:01:42):
But just how we got here to the first place,
all these white folks in this country and lots of
black folks them controlling the education system, force feeding us,
how great and wonderful the founding fathers were, and how
they loved and cared for all mankind and others. Well,
we begin to learn that a lot of that was BS.
But that's what happens when you learn true history, not

(01:02:05):
his story.

Speaker 26 (01:02:08):
Definitely, I think that a racist biggest fear outside of
the fears delineated very well in your book. Roland is
a grandchild asking questions, right, and we see that in
what you just outlined with the Smithsonian and our museums
and our places of entertainment that are being attacked and

(01:02:33):
our history trying to be revised. But you also see it,
as you've also said on this show, in our education system.

Speaker 11 (01:02:39):
I was actually just seeing a TikTok where a teacher.

Speaker 32 (01:02:42):
Obviously the tamra was facing her, so the children were
not videoed, but they were arguing with the teacher because
they had learned before coming to her class that.

Speaker 26 (01:02:54):
The enflaved were paid, and they legit thought that slaves.

Speaker 11 (01:03:01):
Were employees of plantations and the like. It's already starting.

Speaker 26 (01:03:06):
This revisionist history has already started, because these babies had
been asking questions that frankly, their grandparents can't answer without.

Speaker 11 (01:03:16):
Them becoming the villain.

Speaker 6 (01:03:17):
Right.

Speaker 26 (01:03:18):
And when you see my favorite museum in DC, for sure,
I call it the black Sonian being under attack, not
because it's viewing misinformation, not because it's giving alternative, alternative,
alternative facts or anything like that, but because it's really

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one of the few, if not the only, museum in
the Smithsonian conglomerate that is as accurate and as forthcoming
as it is, and it is in your face, right,
you have no choice but to ask questions when you
were in that museum, you have no choice but to
learn something every time you go in, because that's just

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how much history, that's just how much information has been
hidden and frankly tried to be destroyed by others so
that we don't know what's going on. So it is
not surprising to me that history is being under attack.
What I do think should be happening is the preservation

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of it, such as what you're doing with your show.
Tick talkers out there, social media influencers out there trying to.

Speaker 11 (01:04:33):
Preserve history, preserved fact.

Speaker 26 (01:04:37):
But I don't think that this is going to be
a situation in which Trump is going to win or
Conservatives are going to win.

Speaker 11 (01:04:43):
It is going to be an uphill battle, but I
think will come out on top.

Speaker 9 (01:04:47):
Mcconall the reason, the reason what Reverend to otis Moss
talked about. What we're talking about here, We're going to
continue the conversation with Blavity found the CEO Morgan Debond
after this next break. Is something that many people have
talked about, including Marcus Garvey in Message to the People

(01:05:11):
The Course of African Philosophy edited by Tony Martin. This
is what Marcus Garvey said in lesson sixteen Propaganda Propaganda
means to prepare or to make known extensively some particular
phase of human intelligence.

Speaker 3 (01:05:25):
The desires to convert on influence the.

Speaker 9 (01:05:27):
People to the acceptance of the truth of that particular
intelligence that has sought to be spread among them. Propaganda
can be true or false in its origin or intent,
but it is always directed at the public for the
purpose of winning the support of that public to the
sentiment express in the propaganda. He then goes on to say,
propaganda is as I said earlier, Propaganda is all around

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you to make you buy a special brand of cigarettes,
although no good, but it advertised to be the best.
To make you drink or use a certain brand of tea,
telling you of its wonderful quality and its everlasting benefits,
when thee is absolutely nothing to it, and so on.
He then also says, the press, cinema, pulpit, schoolroom are
all propaganda agencies for one thing or the other. The

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pulpit carries religious propaganda, he says, The press carries out
written propaganda, the platform carries on oral propaganda. The cinema
carries out demonstrative propaganda. The white man is a great propagandist.
He fully and completely realizes the value of propaganda. Therefore,
you must organize your propaganda to undo the propaganda of

(01:06:38):
other people. But here is something else that I thought
jumped out that I really think is important. Ticks tear
from your walls, all pictures that glorify other races. Tear
up and burn every bit of propaganda, but does not
carry your idea of things.

Speaker 3 (01:06:53):
Treat them as trash.

Speaker 9 (01:06:54):
That really evokes for me of the scene from Do
the Right Thing when he said, say why you why
you ain't got no black people on the wall.

Speaker 3 (01:07:03):
But here's the thing, right here.

Speaker 9 (01:07:05):
Have your own newspapers, your own artists, your own sculptures,
your own pulpits, your own platforms, Print your own books,
and show your own motion pictures and sculpture your own subjects.
Never accept as yours your subjects of another race, but
glorify all the good in your sales. Finally, watch the newspapers, magazines,
and journals daily for propaganda against your race or your institutions.

(01:07:30):
It says, particularly against the unia rush into print. Immediately
a defense of your race, institutions and organizations from any attack.
Never allow an insult propagated to go unanswered by you.
This is why we talk about why we must not
just sit back and wait to see what Trump and

(01:07:51):
Doze and Musk and JD. Vance are going to do.
They are going to attack the National Museum of African
American History and Culture. They're going to attack every institution.
We must right now be mobilized and organized to prepare
what our response is going to be, and in fact
not even wait for them to do it, to go

(01:08:12):
on the offense.

Speaker 6 (01:08:15):
Well, the whole part.

Speaker 24 (01:08:17):
Of what you read from Marcus Garvey was so powerful,
but that last part it really explains what you mean
when you say, people say, well, why are you talking
about this? Why are you talking about that? And, like
you said, the algorithms out there. People need to see
that we are responding to the nonsense that's out there
because it feeds into the algorithms. And if people don't
understand what he's saying about propaganda, Trump, his whole brain,

(01:08:39):
his whole mindset is about propaganda.

Speaker 25 (01:08:41):
Hitler said. He who controls the media controls the rates.

Speaker 24 (01:08:43):
And that's why Trump and Republicans know that right or wrong,
whether they repeat something long enough, people are going to
start saying it. Whether they repeat something long enough, people
are going to start believing it and acting accordingly. And
we're too spent in so many different spaces not bringing
it together. And that's why the Blacks Starts Network is
so important because if we don't do this, particularly what
he was saying about, you know, tearing down things that

(01:09:06):
don't represent you and make sure that you have a
rapid response team when people are trying.

Speaker 25 (01:09:10):
To denigrate you. Look at what they're throwing at us
every single day.

Speaker 24 (01:09:13):
How many black outlets today have responded to what's been
we've been talking about today about Harriet Tubman, that what's
been talking about South Sudanese visas being retracted. Like the
responses can't come by Friday, they have to become in
real time. And if we don't do this, we're going
to lose the narrative. What you said, Roland, in terms
of how you laid out why there are all of

(01:09:35):
these attacks on you know, for you know, black history
and everything it came from the support of the Black
Lives Matter movement. People are not connecting those dots. People
are acting like, well, Black Lives Letter was over. It
was then and now we're just onto something else. And
it's all a system. And if people like you who
aren't out here to identify what we're dealing with. It's
like James Baldwin said, if you don't know what's happening

(01:09:57):
behind you, you can't understand what's happening around you. And
so we have to continue to build these platforms. We
have to continue to support books like White Fear. I'm
so glad you asked Reverend Monster that last question about
other black churches, because, like you said, there are black
churches and then there are black features in churches. It's
night and day, and we have to continue to build
together to control our own information structure and platforms.

Speaker 25 (01:10:20):
And nobody's leading it better than you.

Speaker 3 (01:10:22):
Folks. Going to a break, we come back.

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We'll continue the conversation about where's our money, segment about
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and the CEO of Blavity.

Speaker 3 (01:10:33):
We're going to talk about what's happening. Yet, you've got these.

Speaker 9 (01:10:35):
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Speaker 9 (01:14:02):
We don't bite this fight right now. You're not going
to have black on you. So you know what, I
get a kick out of the people who tell me, man,
you be out here, why you begging a white man
for money? Why you begging a white man for money?

(01:14:24):
When the fact of the matter is this industry, the
media industry is completely controlled.

Speaker 3 (01:14:31):
It is run based upon advertising.

Speaker 9 (01:14:35):
Some three hundred and fifty almost four hundred billion dollars
a year in the United States is spent on advertising.
Another worldwide, it's almost seven hundred billion dollars. What is
that industry about. It is about selling products. It's about
touching the hearts and minds of people, getting them to

(01:14:58):
buy those products. So the question is where do we
stand in that. I can tell you right now. The
studies show that when we talk about black owned media spend,
these agencies and these companies are spending anywhere from er
point five to one percent. That's total y'all, that's all

(01:15:19):
black on media. Federal government same thing, one percent of
all money being spent. And so whenever we talk about this,
see people are always saying, well, we need our own CINN,
we need our own New York Times, we need.

Speaker 3 (01:15:33):
Our own Washington Post. Well, don't you understand that they
get advertising money. It is not an easy thing for.

Speaker 9 (01:15:43):
Us to do because we are dealing with Jim Crow practices.
We're dealing against people who don't necessarily want to support
exactly what we're doing. In fact, they literally create all
of these loopholes you gotta jump through. I mean you'll see,
you'll see all it is, and the media participates. You
see a company they ain't even launched yet. You see

(01:16:05):
a white company they ain't even launch yet. Get a
big old story in the New York Times, in a
Washington Post, and in the trade publications, in Deadline, Variety,
the Hollywood Reporter, the.

Speaker 3 (01:16:20):
Wrap, all these things, and I'm like, they got nothing
to show for it. Y'all. Remember Quibbi, y'all. Remember Jeffrey Cazenberg.

Speaker 9 (01:16:29):
That app came out during COVID where you're supposed to
be able to if you could turn your phone and
you can see the videos in.

Speaker 3 (01:16:35):
Vertical or horizontal. And they sold out, y'all. Listen to me.
They sold out their entire first year inventory of.

Speaker 9 (01:16:45):
One hundred and fifty million dollars before they launched.

Speaker 3 (01:16:51):
Now, now let me.

Speaker 9 (01:16:52):
Help y'all out. They had zero metrics. What does that
mean by zero metrics meaning dead no proof that it'll work.
They were like, oh oh, mag whibben Jeffer Katzenberg one
hundred and fifty million dollars with iHeartRadio launched the Black

(01:17:16):
Information Network. They had no metrics, no ratings, They had
nine founding sponsors.

Speaker 3 (01:17:27):
McDonald's was one of them nine. Y'all.

Speaker 9 (01:17:31):
Ain't no black media company could launch and have no
metrics and lock up one hundred and fifty million dollars.
So I need y'all to understand what we are up against.
We talk about trying to raise money, trying to raise capital,
trying to build media companies, trying to be able to grow,

(01:17:52):
trying to be able to prosper. The reality is that
black owned media today is surviving, not thriving. When you
look at the companies, you look at an Urban one,
they own Radio one, they go about fifty plus stations,
TV one, Cleo Network on the digital assets the largest,

(01:18:12):
if you will, a black on media company, publicly traded company.

Speaker 3 (01:18:16):
They're operating with a different scale.

Speaker 9 (01:18:18):
When you start talking about like even with Essence gott
you to understand something.

Speaker 3 (01:18:23):
The Essence Music Festival is responsible for it.

Speaker 9 (01:18:27):
Ninety percent of the revenue of Essence Communications.

Speaker 3 (01:18:32):
That's it.

Speaker 9 (01:18:34):
And you heard reverind to otis Mass talk about the
importance of having platforms that we own in control because
we don't have to ask somebody permission for us to
do it. We don't have to explain to somebody why
we're actually doing this show. Joining us right now is
Morgan Debond. She's the founder and CEO of Blavity. Under

(01:18:57):
the Blavity umbrella, they've got Afrotech, They've got other other
different conferences they do as well.

Speaker 3 (01:19:04):
Morgan.

Speaker 9 (01:19:04):
The upfronts are starting very soon. This is when all
of the networks are going to be in New York
and they're going to be rolling out and presenting all
of their new programming and plans to all the media
buyers and all the folks are going to be there.
Group M is going to be there. We've gotten zero
dollars from them. Pooblicy is going to be there. We've

(01:19:26):
got zero dollars from them. You know, IPG, Horizon, McCann,
Everybody's going to be there.

Speaker 3 (01:19:35):
And eighty percent of that almost.

Speaker 9 (01:19:38):
Four hundred billion dollars is going to be spent between
April May and June. And what happens is they have
a secondary ad market which is in September, and then
what ends up having is called the scatter.

Speaker 3 (01:19:53):
We call that the crumbs. And that's when they call Black.

Speaker 9 (01:19:56):
Media maybe and say, hey we got fifty thousand, got
sixty thousand, We maybe have seventy thousand because they're just
trying to spend it before the year in just give
folk an understanding of the realities of what you and
Blavity has had to deal with when you are a
black owned media company trying to crack the nut of

(01:20:19):
this advertising Jim Crow, Yeah, Roll, and I think.

Speaker 30 (01:20:23):
You painted a great picture in terms of the realities
of what we're dealing with today. Blavity has been around
for over a decade, and we started off with one brand.
We now have five brands, and more importantly, we have
a huge publisher network of black owned media publishers that
are independent owned that don't have the resources necessarily to
have a huge sales team and run the ad technology

(01:20:44):
that's required, because the reality is that every year it
gets more difficult to live up to the standards that
they're requiring black media to actually hit, everything from viewability
of the ads on the website to the keyword blocking.
You didn't mention that in your open remarks that that's
one of the key reasons that they don't advertise huge
amounts of money with black audiences is because they don't

(01:21:06):
dm us as brand safe. So over time, you've seen
more and more black media websites move away from news.

Speaker 9 (01:21:13):
No no right now, no stop to stop there, stop there,
because people need to understand something. Because so when they
say brands safe, what they say to us is, well,
you know a lot of brands, you know, you know,
they don't want an opinion.

Speaker 3 (01:21:27):
Then what happens is.

Speaker 9 (01:21:28):
Even on YouTube when we if we show a video
of a cop shooting someone, that video gets demonetized because
brands I don't want that.

Speaker 3 (01:21:39):
But here's the crazy thing.

Speaker 9 (01:21:41):
While they tell us brand safety, well I can turn
on Fox News and see all sorts of brands, major brands.

Speaker 17 (01:21:51):
That's right.

Speaker 30 (01:21:52):
And further, you know, we have a website called Shadow
and Act that is an entertainment site and we'll write
articles about things like fifty cent shows or you know,
all the types of content that goes online. But because
we're a black site and you see us talking about
a cop show or you see us talking about drugs,
you think that it's not brand safe when we're talking

(01:22:13):
about some of the.

Speaker 17 (01:22:13):
Top shows in the world, right right, you know, And
I think what.

Speaker 30 (01:22:19):
Happens too, Roland, is that systemically what happens is we
have to fight for every dollar earned. So let's say
that example, we're talking about, you know, a Stars show,
and it comes out that article goes viral, but we
find out after the fact that all of the ads
on that site no longer count because it was deemed
Brent safe.

Speaker 3 (01:22:38):
Well hold up, hold on, hold up.

Speaker 9 (01:22:39):
Hold Let's start right there, though, because here you are
writing about.

Speaker 3 (01:22:44):
This Stars show is stars advertising.

Speaker 17 (01:22:49):
You already know the answer to these questions.

Speaker 3 (01:22:51):
See right there. So what happens is what happened.

Speaker 9 (01:22:56):
And I've made this perfectly clear, and I've literally had
the folk hit me. I've said to you know, I
don't mind entertainment. There are people, there are people who
I know on those shows. There have been people who
have texted me, Hey, I would love to man, man,
can I get on your show? And I've had to say, say,
br say sis, I love you, I think you're great,

(01:23:20):
but I can't put you on my show because your
streaming service, your company never calls about advertising.

Speaker 3 (01:23:28):
They never call.

Speaker 9 (01:23:30):
And so I've said to Amazon, Prime, Prime Video, Netflix,
Stars Max Own, Hulu, Paramount plus all of them, i
am not going to do any segments of your shows
on my network because.

Speaker 3 (01:23:51):
Y'all publicists listen.

Speaker 9 (01:23:54):
I just told this to a car company that invited
me down to a music festival. I said, I'm not
giving y'all three days in coverage. I said, when your
car company don't advertise, and it's not a quid pro quote,
I'm not saying I'll do this if you advertise. What
I am saying is if you think my audience is

(01:24:16):
valuable enough to showcase your talent to bring their black eyeballs,
then my audience.

Speaker 3 (01:24:23):
Is also valuable enough for you to cut a check.

Speaker 30 (01:24:26):
And I think Roland that's the challenge with black media
is we're always having to make these choices. I mean,
you were just reading conversations and theories from Marcus Garvey
about well, when there's artists and creators and stories that
are promoting our culture that are out like entertainment and
news and publications and movies and TV shows, but they're

(01:24:48):
controlled by way capitalists, what decision does a black on
media do? Do we say, we're not going to cover
some of these shows when it's written or produced by
someone black, even though it's owned and distributed by network,
it's not going to give us a dollar. Are we
going to write the articles about HBCUs or we're going
to write the articles about gun violence when we know
that we're going to make negative money every time we

(01:25:09):
write that article. How do we sustain ourselves when we're
giving these types of requirements.

Speaker 9 (01:25:15):
Let's talk about this here as well, because you touched
on it, you touch on it earlier. We've experienced this,
just shared our folks the request that they make. My
good friend Todd Brown at Urban Age Network co founder,
he always says, they always want that one thing that

(01:25:38):
you don't have. You can have thirty things.

Speaker 3 (01:25:41):
It's like, but do you have this? Ah, you know
what we were really we really need that one thing.

Speaker 9 (01:25:50):
In essence these agencies and it's really the agencies and
let the brands off hook.

Speaker 3 (01:25:56):
But what they're doing is their whole goal is to
search for a way to say no.

Speaker 30 (01:26:01):
They can say they tried, right so they can say, well,
we had intent to commit and we made a commitment
to spend a million dollars, two million dollars, three million
dollars in our upfront, and then throughout the year there's
all these reasons why it didn't happen and why they
have to pull back. And I think that's the reality
of what we're doing with today. We saw when George
Floyd was murdered that all of these giant commitments you've

(01:26:24):
talked about on the show before, huge commitments to black
owned media, and then when it didn't pan out year
over year despite us applying a ton of pressure, all
of us building tons of inventory and capacity year over
year growth, they said, oh, well, now we have this
new requirement where you need to give us twenty percent
in kind impressions or you need to show all of

(01:26:45):
this has to be in media. We're not going to
sponsor your content, Tempoles, We're not going to sponsor your events.
It needs to be one hundred percent media, and it
also needs to be one hundred percent viewable, which is impossible.

Speaker 17 (01:26:55):
It's an impossible standard.

Speaker 30 (01:26:56):
It means I'm throwing out I have to give you
one hundred and twenty percent impressions so that you can
throw out the twenty percent that weren't feelable.

Speaker 3 (01:27:04):
Yeah, absolutely so.

Speaker 9 (01:27:06):
And so what it is is it is, ah, it
is an effort to say no, you mentioned there's a
word there. You mentioned that that immediately struck me. You
said events, and here's something else that that they do.
And let me real clear to everybody who's watching, I
don't begrudge. Let me be real clear, I don't begrudge

(01:27:28):
any black owned media company that has receptions, award shows,
conferences or whatever. But here's here's what they do, Morgan.
What they do is they'll sit here and say, oh,
what's your calendar? Do you have any events? You do

(01:27:49):
you give an award show?

Speaker 3 (01:27:50):
Yeah? Oh yeah, we'll sponsor that.

Speaker 9 (01:27:52):
So what then happens is you have to in essence,
create a whole separate entity that is event driven. That's
the whole staff, that's a whole that's a whole different
core business as opposed to when you've a media company,
you and just ass you press a button, it goes out.

Speaker 3 (01:28:11):
You don't have to build this.

Speaker 9 (01:28:13):
So you're running around now spending months putting on a conference,
putting on a summit, putting on awards program and then
you're doing all of this sort of stuff. And then
when you look at the numbers, the margin frankly is
low because it's not like they're spending significant amounts. And
I literally said two brands and tow aight and dec

(01:28:34):
is no, I ain't doing it. And I literally have
said in other list, my grandmother the catering business. So
I cater since I was seven years old. I stopped
when I was thirty, so I kind of know a
little bit about events and how to put on the events.
And I've said, no, we're in the media business. I
want to do the same thing Disney and Comcast does.
That's pressure, Dawn Button. I am not going to go

(01:28:55):
create a second. If I wanted to create an event business,
I would have created an event business.

Speaker 3 (01:29:00):
That's another thing that they do. That's sort of just that.

Speaker 9 (01:29:03):
So they freeze us out of the advertising money and
they force black on media into the event business.

Speaker 30 (01:29:09):
Yeah, quite as It's kept most of our peers eighty percent.
As you mentioned, Essence and others are in the event business.
That is where the majority of their revenue comes from.
I too, also build an event business. Right Afrotech is
the largest professional gathering of young black professionals in this
whole country.

Speaker 17 (01:29:26):
And it is a separate team.

Speaker 30 (01:29:27):
It's a separate sales team, it's a separate whole freaking team.

Speaker 17 (01:29:31):
And it was a lot of money to build and
it's a lot of money to maintain.

Speaker 30 (01:29:35):
And it's been interesting as times have changed, how more
and more of our media advertisers who originally weren't that
interested in technology or innovation or Silicon Valley.

Speaker 17 (01:29:46):
Are not like, oh, how do I sponsor this? And
I'm like, no, you need to stay where you're ahead
on the digital side.

Speaker 3 (01:29:53):
Yeah it is.

Speaker 9 (01:29:55):
People have no idea the hell we come to last question.
I'm athority before I go my panel, Uh is this here?
Let's talk about and how have you had to navigate
the battle between the brand going oh, no, no, it's
it's the agency, and then the agency going oh no, no, no,
it's the brand, and then the brand said no, no, no, no,

(01:30:17):
it's the agency. The agency is the brand. Like I've
literally had to tell some brands, yo, it's your money.
Stop stop all this back and forth.

Speaker 3 (01:30:25):
Is your money.

Speaker 9 (01:30:26):
I've even had an experience where a major brand, I'm
talking about a major, major, major, major brand, we did
a deal, a high six figure deal, and the brand
was like, yo, let's go the black folks in the

(01:30:49):
in the in the in the brand said hey, you
need to call it agency deal, all paperwork stuff. So
I okay, I email the agency and.

Speaker 3 (01:30:59):
Let's just Molly.

Speaker 9 (01:31:00):
In fact, that was her name, Molly. So Molly sends
me an email back with a question. I'm like, okay,
well I answer the question. Molly asked me a second question,
and I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:31:15):
Like, the hell's going on?

Speaker 6 (01:31:18):
Like?

Speaker 9 (01:31:18):
Am I being vetted again? So then I hit the
black people. Oh no, no, no, it's just you know this,
you know it's the paperwork stuff whatever. So then Molly
comes back with a third question. So I don't even
call the black people.

Speaker 1 (01:31:29):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:31:30):
I called a white guy who's over the whole thing.
I was like, yo, what's up?

Speaker 9 (01:31:34):
He goes, who the hell is Molly? I said, say, man,
that ain't that ain't me. That's your agency. So they
had a meeting the next day. He said, you know what,
that's a call tomorrow. He said, I'm gonna jump on
this call. So he gets on the call. Molly is shocked.

Speaker 3 (01:31:50):
He's on the call. Molly goes, or y'all aware that
he has a segment on his show called crazy ass
White People.

Speaker 9 (01:32:01):
The white exec goes, am I on it? He goes, yes,
we are aware, and it's a segment that's highlighting racist
attacks on black people just trying to do their jobs.
Molly with the agency try to block the deal after

(01:32:23):
the brand has already signed off.

Speaker 3 (01:32:25):
He goes, you know what, we're just gonna pay him
direct now. He was the crazy thing. Morgan.

Speaker 9 (01:32:30):
I had described this very issue to the CMO of
the brand and others four months previously. They saw in
real time how an agency will try to block a
deal because you know what, the agencies hate. The agency

(01:32:51):
can't stand when you go to the client and the
client issues that dictate because the agency they want to
decide how the client's money is spent, and they are
pissed when you do that.

Speaker 17 (01:33:05):
That's right, Roland.

Speaker 30 (01:33:06):
My best advice to every single entrepreneur and founder that
I talk to is it's okay to be difficult. The
difficult people are the ones who win at the end
of the day. I tell my sellers every single day, well,
who is the decision maker behind the agency?

Speaker 17 (01:33:18):
I don't want to talk about agency. The agency is
going to execute. We're gonna have a relationship with them,
but they work for the client.

Speaker 30 (01:33:23):
So if you don't know who's actually signing the check
to the agency, then you haven't done your job.

Speaker 17 (01:33:29):
You need to get in the field. You need to
go to these meetings. You need to be super annoying.

Speaker 30 (01:33:33):
If you need meet us in the email, you need
me to set up a meeting when I'm in that city,
I will do it because that is the only way
that we've been able to survive a decade is actually
going straight to the decision maker and making them uncomfortable.

Speaker 17 (01:33:46):
But nine times out of ten they don't know. They
actually do not know.

Speaker 30 (01:33:49):
What's going on behind the scenes because we are such
a small rounding air in their total marketing budget. Even
if they have all good intent, it's so small that
they are literally like, oh, yeah, sure, we can give
you seven hundred thousand dollars or million dollars because it's
nothing actually compared to their total budget spend.

Speaker 9 (01:34:10):
This is my last go before you go to my
panel here, so this is got my IPA anthy. So
this here is the Upfronts and New Fronts twenty twenty
five calendar. I just want people to understand if y'all
see how extensive this is, and you see all now
you see right here Reach TV April fourth, fourteenth at

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two pm in New York.

Speaker 3 (01:34:33):
That's a black owned companies. We just can keep going.

Speaker 9 (01:34:36):
Y'all see all of this. So agencies and different media
companies they put.

Speaker 17 (01:34:41):
On Digital maor Digital's Black Shila Mormon.

Speaker 9 (01:34:47):
Okay, Mere Digital right here. Let's see here. Okay, so
you got all. So this is all, this is all
April in May and different deal now now here. Now
Here's the other thing. The agencies will invite brands. They
also have these equity upfronts, so basically, Anthony comeback so hastily.

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What they do is they don't invite us to the
main show. So they created these equity upfronts after this
is after George Floyd's death for us to go present,
and hell, we do that and we don't get no
money from the equity upfronts. Has Glavity been invited by
any agency to present at this year's upfronts.

Speaker 30 (01:35:29):
Now which reminded to the equity upfronts which were a
few weeks ago.

Speaker 17 (01:35:33):
So there are also not happening at the same time.
So we're not in the city.

Speaker 30 (01:35:37):
You know, we fly into the city because our team
is setting up meetings, but it's not designed for us
to be a part of the.

Speaker 17 (01:35:42):
Ecosystem when the decisions are being made and the deals
are being made.

Speaker 9 (01:35:46):
So for folks to understand, they created the equity upfronts
for us to talk to diverse media, but the real
upfronts is here and they don't invite us to this
and I get you know, I see what Mirror is
trying to do, Sheila and reach TV as well. But

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guess what, you can spend a lot of money putting
the whole show on everything, Like at the end of
the day, are you getting any money in return?

Speaker 3 (01:36:17):
And more often than not, which is not not? You
ain't getting jack in return. You're spent.

Speaker 9 (01:36:23):
They don't mind you flying to New York and come
and meet with them, and all you being rewarded with
or meetings or as by Fred Todd Brown says, everybody
in this meeting is being paid except me.

Speaker 3 (01:36:33):
Y'all are paid to be in the meeting. I'm paying
to be in this meeting.

Speaker 9 (01:36:38):
Questions questions, Kelly, you first, sure, with the talk.

Speaker 26 (01:36:44):
Of DEI policies going away and things of that nature,
how has the erasure of DEI policy specifically in this
industry impacted.

Speaker 11 (01:36:57):
Your bottom line is at all?

Speaker 26 (01:37:00):
And do you see you know, news of you know,
possible recession and things like that, how do you think
that's going to be impacting your business as far as
media and advertising dollars?

Speaker 17 (01:37:14):
Yeah, the blavity brands are strong.

Speaker 30 (01:37:17):
You know, we're one of the few publishers that has
the diversity of brands because we have a variety of
lifestyle brands and we have our publisher network. So our
revenue is actually very strong compared to even last year
or the year before. The reason for this is because
even in downturns and recessions, we actually see an increase
in advertising and spending, particularly for the types of products
and services that people like to advertise to black people,

(01:37:38):
which is fast food and kind of things of that nature, entertainment,
and I think when it comes to D and I,
it's really interesting actually because you see the news in
the press on one side, and then I see an
RFP and IO coming on the other side from that
same company, So, you know rolling. I don't know if

(01:37:58):
that's been your experience, but so far, that's how what
we've been seeing is that there's a lot of politicking
and then at the end of the day, they still
need growth for their business and black people are one
of the undertapped markets in this country, and so they
know we can potentially grow our top and bottom line
by getting more black customers.

Speaker 3 (01:38:19):
Indeed, indeed on the Congo.

Speaker 24 (01:38:24):
Thank you so much, mister Mond, for all your incredible
work over the years. My question to you is similar
to when we see what's happening with the Trump administration,
we start to see a rise in more black people
applying to HBCUs and they're like, do you see a
larger turn towards black owned media when these attacks from
the Trump administration are happening as well?

Speaker 25 (01:38:47):
Or is there sort of like a.

Speaker 3 (01:38:49):
Problem?

Speaker 25 (01:38:50):
Do your numbers pretty much stay the same.

Speaker 30 (01:38:53):
Our traffic has gone up year over year, And I
do believe that the reason that that's happened is because
people are looking for a source of truth when there's
so much misinformation and propaganda going on mainstream news. You know,
the moment that the news, mainstream news basically showed us, hey,
we're going to be beholden to the Trump administration. We're
gonna let go of people like joy Read. We're gonna

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let go of people who are like tellers of truth.
That was the moment that I think black people said, Okay,
I need to switch my information input. So our newsletter
goes out every single day to a million plus people,
and that is a place where people are able to
get the news and information. You know, one of the
challenges that we have is how do you finance the
news and information that is chronically underfunded? Knowing what I

(01:39:35):
talked about earlier in terms of keyword blocking that that
has not changed.

Speaker 17 (01:39:39):
So how do we manage that. That's something that we're
actively working through.

Speaker 30 (01:39:42):
I mean, I'd love your guys's model in terms of
having direct contributions. We've talked about doing that, but really
trying to figure out how can we strengthen our financing
for reporting, which is very different than lifestyle content.

Speaker 3 (01:39:56):
Yep, yep, absolutely, Teresa, So.

Speaker 27 (01:40:00):
Morgan, thank you so much for coming on. I am
definitely an admirer of your work. I am in the
PR space, so I have been on the other end
of making sure that some of those media adviys go out.

Speaker 17 (01:40:15):
I know you guys have a I think you call
it like Blavity Fest, and you have it every year.

Speaker 27 (01:40:22):
How have you seen some of the turnout in terms of, like,
you know, interested individuals and those who are sponsoring the events,
especially since Donald Trump came into office.

Speaker 30 (01:40:36):
Yeah, Blavity Fast is at the end of May and
May thirty first, June first in Atlanta, bringing it straight
to the people. We've got line up with two Chains
and Kirk Franklin and tons of incredible speakers that will
be there.

Speaker 17 (01:40:50):
Sponsors are not bullish. I do think that there's been
a bit of.

Speaker 30 (01:40:53):
A pullback on anything that they can't measure the return
on investment.

Speaker 17 (01:40:57):
So we're seeing more and more of our partners ask
for things.

Speaker 30 (01:41:00):
That they can track, which is you know, digital display, advertising,
social media, creator post, influencer post, things like that, and
less of things that were brand affiliation or brand association
plays like a sponsorship.

Speaker 17 (01:41:13):
Of a festival.

Speaker 3 (01:41:14):
You know.

Speaker 30 (01:41:14):
The good news is that festivals do have ticket sales,
and I believe that the Atlanta audience, you know, people
in Alabama, the Carolinas are going to come in droves
to be able to come together and celebrate, especially when
you know it's a rough economy right now, and I
think people want to be together.

Speaker 27 (01:41:29):
Last we met, we need that in Philadelphia here.

Speaker 17 (01:41:32):
So you guys got the Roots Festival, which I think
is pretty strong.

Speaker 27 (01:41:37):
It's good, but I think Blavity offers a little bit
more programming than entertainment and music.

Speaker 3 (01:41:43):
Yes, true, that true.

Speaker 9 (01:41:44):
That last question I have for you and had this
conversation over the weekend. Morgan, what has been your experience
in trying to collaborate with other black owned brands. I
was talking to somebody with the Weekend about this and

(01:42:05):
I said, listen, I said, I think for a lot
of the larger ones, they want to live in silos.
They don't want to partner. They see people as upstarts.
I said, the bottom line is, with thirteen percent of
the population, we should be going into these places operating
as a collective and then going in asking for a
large number and then we split the money up later.

(01:42:28):
But also I think a huge problem is that there
have been there are too many people. They want to
be the only one. They think they can eat all
of it. I said, Disney can't eat all of it,
Comcasts can't eat all of it. I have a very
simple philosophy. I want everybody to eat. I want Blavy
to eat. I want Black Enterprise to eat. I want
Urban One to eat. I want Revolt to eat, I

(01:42:51):
want Black.

Speaker 3 (01:42:52):
Papers to eat. I want us to eat.

Speaker 9 (01:42:53):
That's actually enough, and if we operate in the collective,
I think we can take down more. The problem is
it's a bunch of folk with ego who do not
actually want.

Speaker 3 (01:43:04):
To collaborate and don't want to partner. What has been
your experience.

Speaker 17 (01:43:09):
Rolling every year behind closed doors.

Speaker 30 (01:43:13):
I try to buy or sell myself to another company
because I truly believe that we will only.

Speaker 17 (01:43:20):
Win if we consolidate.

Speaker 30 (01:43:22):
I've done three acquisitions in the last ten years of
black owned businesses bringing them under the Blavity fold, and
I believe that it's the right way to grow and scale.
Pretty much everyone that you've named I've talked to. But
to your point, they're comfortable. Some of these are family businesses.
Most of them at this point are family businesses owned
by wealthy individuals or families that have seven hundred million

(01:43:45):
dollar plus in net worth.

Speaker 17 (01:43:46):
So they want the power. They want the power of
the distribution channel so that they can be the key makers.

Speaker 30 (01:43:51):
And that's nice, but that doesn't really serve the people
because it doesn't allow us to consolidate the resources of
all of this overhead that we all have to carry
in order to be able to tell the truth.

Speaker 17 (01:44:02):
It doesn't make.

Speaker 30 (01:44:03):
Sense for all of us to have a CFO, for
us to all have our own eye technology we've got,
for us to all have the same media sellers that
are going against the same media agencies is absolutely a
waste of money.

Speaker 17 (01:44:15):
And if anybody wants to call me after this, you all.

Speaker 11 (01:44:18):
Have my number?

Speaker 3 (01:44:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:44:19):
Well, I mean listen, there were a lot of folk
who I personally sat down with travel too before I
even started this, and I said, I said, I'm doing
what you're not doing, so there's no competition here. And
folks didn't want to partner. And I said, okay, fine,
I'm just gonna do it ourselves.

Speaker 3 (01:44:40):
And you're right. I've been preaching consolidation for a very
long time.

Speaker 9 (01:44:43):
I remember got rich his soul Jim Washington, who was
the owner published for the Dallas Weekly. When I ran
the Dallas Weekly in nineteen ninety eight as managing editor,
he was like, he's like, mister Martin, why are you
always trying to put my competitors out of business? I said,
I'm not trying to put them out the business. I said,
I just think it's stupid as hell. You got seven
black newspapers in Dallas. I said, Dallas ain't big enough

(01:45:05):
to support black news, seven black papers. I said, it
ain't big enough to support two daily newspapers. So what
makes you think that these seven black people are going
to be surviving and thriving, I mean thriving and the
reality is that was seven different people, seven egos, seven
people who wanted invitations to the mayor's event, to the
Christmas party or whatever the hell. And I said to him, Jim,

(01:45:28):
I said, we're getting We're not getting ad dollars, Jim,
We're getting community affairs dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:45:33):
I said.

Speaker 30 (01:45:34):
I'll say to Roland is, behind the scenes, a lot
of us are collaborating on the revenue side. So many
of the publications you mentioned are on our AD network,
so we are running their ad technology and doing the sales.
But what we're not collaborating is for people who own
and dominate different different distribution channels, like you are the
best on YouTube, and when it comes to digital video,

(01:45:54):
there's no one that comes even close to your reach
and your distribution.

Speaker 17 (01:45:58):
Right then there's people who have television and radio.

Speaker 30 (01:46:01):
That's actually where I think the consolidation needs top and
what will have a lot of strength.

Speaker 9 (01:46:04):
Oh no, absolutely, And I can tell you and I'm
going back. Matter of fact, I'm always use George Floyd
as an example. That happened on May twenty fifth, twenty
twenty and what so we were watching there was a
mortal day. It was a Monday, and we were watching
the protests unfold. And I remember in Saturday, something was
burning and everybody is talking, and I think it was

(01:46:26):
like at nine o'clock at night. I sent an email
to like twenty plus different people and I said, why
are we all watching white mainstream media break down?

Speaker 3 (01:46:38):
What's happening?

Speaker 9 (01:46:39):
I said, why don't we all come together and produce
our own show. I looked at them, this done, this
is not. We were not in this studio. We were
not in this fifty eight hundred square for a studio.
We were off across the street and is we were.
We were cod leasing subleasing this place. All we had
was one main room and three offices as all we

(01:46:59):
have And I said we I said, we have the studio,
we got the technology. And only out of the twenty people,
one person responded and they actually they couldn't even get
their technology together. We went ahead and broadcast our own show.
I think we were live three or four hours.

Speaker 1 (01:47:19):
We did.

Speaker 9 (01:47:20):
We were only we were only my god, we were
only a year and a half old. We had about
four hundred thousand views that night. But the point that
I raised was.

Speaker 3 (01:47:32):
Like, we let's not wait, let's stop watching the white meeting.
Tell our own story.

Speaker 9 (01:47:37):
Then that December I reached out to the folks and
I said, hey, we all individually can't cover this.

Speaker 3 (01:47:42):
Warnock, Warnock, osoft, runoff raise same thing. Let's get together.

Speaker 9 (01:47:47):
And it was only like two people who responded about
unless partnering. Uh, And then even we couldn't pull that together.
So we just went ahead and just just just did
our say else. But that's precisely the point I've been saying, Hey,
we don't need everybody doing news. But to your point,

(01:48:07):
if we're able to say, hey we can run this
content here running here, now what do you have that
we can run as well? Now you're mac to your point,
you're maximizing resources to maximize reach.

Speaker 17 (01:48:20):
That's right, And you know all I can do is
control myself at this point.

Speaker 30 (01:48:23):
So I think you and I should have a conversation after,
but this about how we can support you on the
digital distribution side as well, because it really just has
to start with us taking it one step at a time.
You know, I can't control essence, I can't control Ebony,
I can't control you know.

Speaker 17 (01:48:36):
What revolt is doing. But we can We have a
lot of power sitting right here on this conversation.

Speaker 9 (01:48:40):
Oh yeah, Well, there are some things that we are
doing on the AI side with how we take this
digital content into written form because people still read written form.
And one of the things that we're also doing is
I've already signed the deal with the black owned company
La Complae the revamping Blackstar Network dot com turning into

(01:49:02):
a news portal. I'm actually hiring two staff writers. I
know exactly what content I want every how many stories
for a week because part of the other issue is
and you know this here because that was I hate,
I really do hate aggregation because the problem is we're
rewriting somebody else's stuff and then but and then a
lot of times we don't actually you know, we're not

(01:49:24):
aware of well who wrote the story and what their
agenda is.

Speaker 3 (01:49:28):
So the opportunity is there.

Speaker 9 (01:49:29):
So we'll definitely have that conversation because at the end
of the day, again, if there's something that you doing
that I'm not doing, and I'm doing that you're not doing,
it doesn't hurt us to actually work together. And again,
I want everybody to eat that's and we.

Speaker 3 (01:49:45):
Can all do that. So that's what's crecting fort looking
forward to it, all right, Morgan appreciate it. Well. First
of all, again you said the conference.

Speaker 30 (01:49:53):
When was it, you said at the end of the
hony fast Yes, May thirty, first, June first, Atlanta, Get
your tickets now, blovity fest dot com.

Speaker 3 (01:50:00):
Is there a more day weekend? Is that the same time?

Speaker 17 (01:50:02):
It's the weekend after?

Speaker 3 (01:50:04):
Oh, it's a weekend after, got it? Okay? All right?

Speaker 9 (01:50:06):
So May thirty, first, June first, gots right? Okay, all right,
Malgo appreciate it.

Speaker 17 (01:50:11):
Thanks a lot, Thanks everyone.

Speaker 9 (01:50:13):
All right, I'm going to go to break when we
come back. A couple more things we want to talk
about that you need to be aware of if you're
watching roland Mark Unfiltered right here on the black Star Network.

Speaker 29 (01:50:29):
This week, on the other side of change, the attacks
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education both locally and internationally and what this.

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Will mean for future generations.

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Speaker 9 (01:51:21):
All right, y'all, Teresa Lundy, Let's go from our parents
with Teresa. We appreciate you joining us on today's show.
Thank you so very much. Folks, Let's talk talk South
Sudanese a bold new immigration crackdown from the races of
Trump administration. It's already starting concern among African countries. Over
the weekend, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, you know the

(01:51:42):
one whose parents from Cuba because he'm from here, announced
that all US visas held by South Sudanese passport holders
are now revoked, effective immediately. In a statement on the
State Department website, Rubio said it is time for the
transitional government of South Sudan to stop taking advantage of
the United States. Enforcing our nation's immigration laws is critically

(01:52:05):
important to the national security and public safety of the
United States. Every country must accept the return of its
citizens in the timely manner when another country, including the
United States seeks to remove them as South Sudan's transitional
government has failed to fully respect this principle. Effective immediately,
the United States Department of the State is taking action
to revoke all visas held by South Sudanese passport holders

(01:52:28):
and prevent further issuance. To prevent entry into the United
States by South Sudanese passport holders will be prepared to
review these actions with South Sudan is in full cooperation.
That comes after a deportation to speak between the United
States and South Sudan. Washington says the African nation refused
to accept the return of one individual, and now an
entire community is paying the price. During the news conference,

(01:52:51):
South Sudan's Foreign minister responded to this revocation by the
United States.

Speaker 35 (01:52:57):
The Government of South Sudan has noted the United States
announcement on April fifth, twenty twenty five, regarding the immediate
revocation of visas for South Sudanese passport holders. This decision
was made as a consequence of what was described as
the failure of South Sudan's transitional government to accept the

(01:53:21):
return of its repatriated citizens in a timely manner.

Speaker 6 (01:53:25):
We would like to clarify that.

Speaker 35 (01:53:27):
The Government of South Sudan has consistently maintained open communication
and cooperation with US authorities regarding immigration and deportation matters.

Speaker 6 (01:53:40):
The government welcomes all.

Speaker 35 (01:53:42):
Its citizens, whether they are returning voluntarily or through deportation processes.
It is imperative to highlight that South Sudan has consistently
demonstrated goodwill and cooperation with the United States on immigration
and deportation issues. In this context, the South Sudanese Embassy

(01:54:02):
in Washington, DC has issued emergency travel documents for twenty
one out of twenty three individuals identified by US authorities,
with some successfully reportuated and admitted into South Sudan with
that issue. Of the two individuals confirmed as non South
Sudanese nationals, one is a Congolese citizen, namely mister Makula Kintu,

(01:54:28):
and the other is as as Sudanese national. The government
deeply regrets that, despite this history of collaboration and partnership,
South Sudan now faces a broad revocation of visas based
on an isolated incident involving misrepresentation by individual.

Speaker 6 (01:54:49):
Who is not a South Sudanese national.

Speaker 35 (01:54:53):
South Sudan reaffirms this commitment to engaging constructively with the
United States to ensure the proper verification, accept and acceptance
of bona fide South Sudanese nationals consistent with international standards
and practices.

Speaker 6 (01:55:09):
South Sudan values is its.

Speaker 35 (01:55:11):
Strong partnership with the United States and appreciates the significant
contributions made by the American government and people, as well
as the South Sudanese community residing in the US. The
government remains steadfast in its commitment to resolving this matter
through constructive dialogue and collaboration. The Republic of South Sudan

(01:55:35):
looks forward to working closely with US authorities to address
this issue promptly, fairly, and in a manner that is
mutually beneficial.

Speaker 9 (01:55:45):
Now Titchens are high South today and their vice president
is under house arrest after titches between militia and the
government arising fast that uns warning a possible civil war
in South today, and no new visus will be issued,
no existing one and honored and know South suit of
these nationals will be allowed into the US until further noses.
This is the first countrywide visa band for the Trump administration.

(01:56:09):
Here's the real thing on the Congo here. The fact
of the matter is Trump folks, they just want to
see in anybody anywhere. You heard them say that was
a that was a Congolese resident. We've seen this with
other countries. Their whole attitude is, we don't give a
damn who we send to you.

Speaker 3 (01:56:25):
You just take them.

Speaker 26 (01:56:27):
Yes.

Speaker 24 (01:56:28):
And on top of that, Roland kind of going back
to the importance of your first segment, this was the
first time I've heard with this story. I've heard about
the sudan story all day, but this was the first
time anyone's actually talked about the person who's rejected actually
not being Sudanese. So that goes to the importance of
accuracy as it relates to these stories. Furthermore, they want

(01:56:49):
to make examples of this, and you know why, I'm
kind of like a little bit out of it right
now because my mind is as I'm thinking of the
Duke basketball player Maloak, who's from who's southern the needs
and I'm wondering, like, are they going to make an
example out of him? You know, he's at Duke and
that's where Stephen Miller went and he probably doesn't think
black people should go to Duke or something. But this

(01:57:10):
is when people need to rally together because it's another
example of Trump also starting with small nations and small
countries that people that he thinks that people aren't going
to give a damn about. And if you think that
it's only going to be South Sudan, it's going to
be other countries. So this is the time where people
need to rally around, have accuracy, respect other country sovereignty

(01:57:31):
and just like you're doing with you know, Al Salvador,
you know, not just shipping people wherever you feel like
you can ship them.

Speaker 25 (01:57:37):
People need to stand for their sovereign borders.

Speaker 24 (01:57:39):
This administration has no patience and they just want to
make examples out of everybody. And I'm really interesting to
see what's going to happen at Duke if they're going
to try to make an example out of him Roland.
There are less than fifty visas that have been issued
to South Sudanese here in the United States. Right, this
is who they want to target. It's not surprising. We
got to stand together, Kelly, real simple. This is called

(01:58:01):
African nations are shithold countries. That's what Donald Trump thinks,
and we're going to make an example out of you
shithold your your shithole country.

Speaker 3 (01:58:09):
That's all this is. They don't give it.

Speaker 9 (01:58:11):
They do, Donald Trump, Maga, Elon Musk, jd Vance, Marco Rubio.
They do not want black people in this country. They
will happily take white Africaners from South Africa.

Speaker 3 (01:58:26):
They do not want black people from Africa.

Speaker 8 (01:58:34):
These right.

Speaker 26 (01:58:35):
You know, you heard about the what was it, the
five million dollar gold card for people who can afford it,
that was basically advertised to white European countries in Russia.
You hear about it, and the dog whistles of exactly
who they're gonna welcome here and exactly who they're not.
You know, said dog whistle is becoming a little bit

(01:58:56):
louder and becoming a real whistle.

Speaker 11 (01:58:57):
Now then now, but you're absolutely right.

Speaker 9 (01:59:01):
It is sad.

Speaker 26 (01:59:03):
It is sad, and it's pathetic how this administration is
just living in their racism out loud through these policies,
through their rhetoric, through their behaviors everything. But what I
am more concerned about now is after this administration, should

(01:59:24):
there be after to this administration, We have to think
about how these countries are going to treat us from
here on out, because it can't be a foreign policy
where they are treating us well president by president by president,
especially when our administration ideologies have been so mercurial from

(01:59:45):
presidency to presidency as of late. They like these other
countries Sudan, the European Union and the like, they're.

Speaker 36 (01:59:53):
Going to have to basically reframe how they see the
United States from here on out because they can't afford
to to govern their foreign policies based.

Speaker 11 (02:00:03):
Off of specifically who's in office at the time. There
has to be some type of uniformity on their end.
So what does that mean for us? If I were
in their shoes, we would be treated like.

Speaker 26 (02:00:17):
A third world country until there was a history, a
new history of.

Speaker 20 (02:00:24):
Decent behavior, and right now we don't have that, and
we haven't had that for at least a decade and
a half as far as how mercurial and flip flopping
we have been as far as foreign policy is concerned.

Speaker 11 (02:00:36):
So my concern isn't just about Sudan.

Speaker 26 (02:00:40):
While it is terrible, this is a now problem, but
what are the implications of this?

Speaker 11 (02:00:45):
It is how other countries are going to be viewing US.
Sudan has partnerships with other countries. You know what I'm saying, like,
we're not the only country that has.

Speaker 26 (02:00:54):
Business with Sudan, who has diplomatic relations with South Sudan.

Speaker 11 (02:01:00):
You know, So, how are those countries looking at us?
How are those countries going to.

Speaker 26 (02:01:06):
Converse with us and be diplomatic with us? Are they
going to be diplomatic with us from here on out?

Speaker 11 (02:01:12):
And right now I am looking at a pattern of
hostility not just towards Black countries, but frankly towards the
world that isn't Russia.

Speaker 22 (02:01:21):
And that's very.

Speaker 9 (02:01:22):
Concerning, absolutely absolutely all right, Amagongo, Kelly.

Speaker 3 (02:01:28):
We appreciate both of you being on today's show. Thank
you so very much.

Speaker 9 (02:01:31):
Again, appreciate Teresa as well. Folks, Tomorrow we're going to
talk about a lawsuit against Saint Augustine's University. Of course,
we're going to be there on Friday in Raleigh, North Carolina.
And so the school having more drama. Now you gotta
spend more money on legal fees. So it's like, what
the hell is going on? We'll tell you about that tomorrow.
Don't forget the town hall doors open.

Speaker 3 (02:01:51):
At five pm.

Speaker 9 (02:01:52):
Martin Street Baptist Church. No, they're not naming the church
after me because we're coming. That's the name of the church.
So we're going to be there in the ship Hall.
They're broadcasting live, so we want everybody in Raleigh come
on out. I'll be signing competes in my book White Fear.
If you are a graduate, faculty student staff of Saint Augustin's,
we want to see you in the house.

Speaker 3 (02:02:14):
I know my Alfred brothers are going to be there.

Speaker 9 (02:02:16):
They've been spreading the word as well, so we look
forward to again broadcasting from there on Friday. So also
tomorrow we're going to talk about remember we show you
the racist video of Marjorie Taylor Green's Eggs husband well
now at races is apologizing for verbally attacking a few
couple of Muslim women as they were praying, minding their

(02:02:38):
own business, and so we'll have you that for you
tomorrow as well.

Speaker 3 (02:02:42):
Lots to break down, folks.

Speaker 9 (02:02:43):
And so we look forward to seeing it. Don't forget
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Speaker 3 (02:02:57):
Thirteen cents a day.

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Let me just share the holders for you.

Speaker 9 (02:03:18):
So I did go to the post office today, and
just so you'll understand a lot of people have been
supporting us. Yes, I had to bring the Duffel bag
in to get the mail, So please be patient. I
understand folks balance their check check books, but when you
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(02:03:41):
It's not as just simple. That's just us sitting here
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Blackstar Network, they make it out to Rolling Martin unfiltered. God,
that's three separate accounts. So we literally have to go
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all what came in today when I went to the

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I appreciate all of that, but just understand there. Yes,

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This is it right here on the screen.

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Speaker 3 (02:05:25):
So here's the thing, y'all.

Speaker 9 (02:05:27):
I don't charge a subscription fee. I don't do Patreon,
I don't do substack. There's like perfect example, Might's touched
the Progressive Network. They've got, you know they've got. They
do three hundred and fifty million views on their YouTube channel.
They make a lot of money off their YouTube channel.
They also have forty thousand people pay eight dollars a

(02:05:50):
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Well, due to math, y'all, that's ninety six dollars a year.
I purposely did.

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Not want to charge a subscription for our content because
I wanted this widely available. So I wanted people to
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I want them to be able to access it. We
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just this one show. On September fourth, twenty twenty one,
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we start debuting our shows.

Speaker 3 (02:06:49):
We debuted four shows. You know, three of those shows
have gone away.

Speaker 9 (02:06:54):
Look, we've added new shows and so Doctor Greg car
his show is to with us, The Black Table, that's
the weekly show. Reverend Doctor Jackie Hood Martin Show of
the Balance Living that is a weekly show. We've just
launched the Other Side of Change with Bria Baker and
Jimmy Burley.

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That is a weekly show.

Speaker 9 (02:07:11):
I am working with some folks right now to launch
a business show. We are working on a health show.
We are also I had another call today. We're looking
at creating a black owned business marketplace for you to
be able to buy black owned products through our channel.

(02:07:32):
I've already signed a deal with a black owned web
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Com to turn into a newsportal.

Speaker 9 (02:07:41):
I'm negotiating with two people to become writers to us
for us to write stories to appeal on the appear
on my show to other shows. We'll have that content
on Blackstar network dot Com. And so we're looking to
be as robust as possible. When you look at our merchandise,
we've actually grown that as well. All that pays for
all of this here, y'all, the numbers do not lie

(02:08:04):
all of this. When we talk about staff, we talk
about travel, we talk about listen. Our release in this
place is up in twenty twenty six. This is going
to cost several thousand more dollars a year than what
we've been paying for the last four years. So when
you talk about our fiber optic lines, when you talk
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about to go through about one hundred thousand dollars refresh
of our lighting system because we need to do some
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adding additional robotic cameras. So all of this stuff actually
costs money, real money. And so you already heard the
conversation with Morgan Debond. We don't get the money from

(02:08:48):
these ad agencies. I told you the major ad agencies
group in even when they had a Black CEO zero dollars, pulses,
zero dollars densue, zero dollars, Horizon zero dollars. I can
name all of these agencies and we've gotten zero dollars.

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We've gotten support from certain brands Coca Cola, General Motors.
We did what two three years ago, Procter and Gamble
haven't heard from them since.

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So again, cash app use a Kira Cole from Strike
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Uh.

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I've gotten, I've gotten your phone calls and emails.

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we don't generate money from the app. We have the
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Anybody says that our stuff cannot run, we will always
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That's why we have our app. The app costs y'all.
The app costs me one hundred and fifty thousand dollars
a year.

Speaker 9 (02:12:11):
Why don't we do it that way? It's because we
want to be independent. So if YouTube or Facebook or
anybody says, nah, we ain't running it.

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We're like Cool.

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We're trying to build it to another million followers. Eleven
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The goal is seventeen million. Go to start Engine, dot
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Speaker 9 (02:12:45):
I will see anybody have a birthday? Anybody had nah,
ain't nobody the birthday? Anybody in my family birthday, my
daddy birthday later month. I'm trying to what you want?

Speaker 3 (02:12:54):
What do you want?

Speaker 9 (02:12:56):
What's one of y'all birthdays?

Speaker 1 (02:12:58):
Something?

Speaker 9 (02:13:02):
Don'tbody care about y'all? Delta Versary? I got two Howard
Universe three, tell about our Delta Versary. Come up, do
y'all see what this is? This is the only I
got two. I got two deltas and a signal in
the control room.

Speaker 3 (02:13:21):
It does not matter. They don't get shout outs.

Speaker 9 (02:13:25):
The only the only versary that's gonna get a shout
out is on April twenty seventh, when I celebrate my
thirty sixth year in the ALPHAA Alpha Attorney Incorporated. So
the rest of y'all. Uh, first of all, don't be
saying damn because that's how you get paid. So don't
be telling me, don't me just do that Kevin Hart damn. Okay,

(02:13:46):
because you don't be saying damn when that check come in.
Uh huh see see, uh huh. That was don I
want to hear it. I don't want to hear I
don't care.

Speaker 3 (02:13:53):
I don't care.

Speaker 9 (02:13:54):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I seend y'all lass home for
good y'all gonna be saying damn.

Speaker 3 (02:13:59):
Yeah. Also now now even like oh no, that wasn't me.
Wasn't me? All, y'all, that's it.

Speaker 9 (02:14:04):
I'm gonna see y'all tomorrow, alrighty. Also, we're gonna have
for you Bishop William Barber, he spoke saday at the
Indivisible March, We're gonna play for you his comments from
that march as well. So it's a lot of a
lot of had to get to y'all. This could have
been an easily three four hour show, but we got
to go home. I see y'all tomorrow right here on
black on, Unfiltered, Unapologetic, y'all.

Speaker 3 (02:14:28):
Know how we do it. Black Star Network.

Speaker 1 (02:14:31):
Huh.

Speaker 3 (02:14:32):
Black Start Network is.

Speaker 17 (02:14:36):
A real revolution there right now.

Speaker 11 (02:14:38):
I thank you for me in the voice of black aparances,
almoment that we have.

Speaker 3 (02:14:42):
Now we have to keep this going.

Speaker 6 (02:14:44):
The video looks phenomenal.

Speaker 18 (02:14:46):
Between Black Star Network and Black owned media and something
like Ceenn.

Speaker 9 (02:14:51):
You can't be black owned media and be scared.

Speaker 8 (02:14:55):
It's time to be smart.

Speaker 3 (02:14:56):
Bring your eyeballs.

Speaker 8 (02:14:58):
Hold it did.

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