Trump trade war, MAGA assault on Black history, South Sudanese Visas Revoked, NC SAU $18M Lawsuits

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April seven, twenty twenty five, coming up on Rolling Unfield,
streaming live on the Black Start Network that twice in
Peach primally convicted Fella n Tief. Donald Trump has slept
tariff on all imports, ignited a global trade war. Oh
my god, Maga is breaking down. Even some of his
people are just complaining, crying. You got poor little Meghan

(02:43):
McCain sound like a fool because she's supported all the policies.
Now she's complaining. Oh, we're gonna show you all of
the drama. And yet another attempt to whitewashing American history
of the National Park Service under this racist administration. Remove
Harry Upman's photo and quote from his website. They also

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are reimagining the Underground Railroad plus you have them targeting
the National Museum of African American History and Culture. Will
talk with Chachaco Pastor Doctor Odin Mosster third recently told
his congregation we will not be erased. Secondary State Marco
Rubio says all US visas from South Sudanese passport holders

(03:23):
are revoked effected immediately because they won't just accept whatever
the Trump volks give them. Also, why is our state
department declaring the Bahamas a risk for travelers? Jays where
our money segment. I'll talk with Blavity Inks founder and
CEO Morgan Debond about the importance of independent black owned

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media lots the breakdown. Also over the weekend, individual hath
their marches. Reverend Doctorship William Barber, he spoke here at DC.

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Will hear what he had to say.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
It is time to bring the funk on rolling unfilched
on the Black stud Network.

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he's got the scoop, the fact, the fine and when
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believe he's going putting it out from his Boston news
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Speaker 7 (04:21):
It's ro.

Speaker 12 (04:26):
It's rolling Montane, Yeah, rolling.

Speaker 7 (04:32):
With he's Pokas prest She's real the best. No, he's
rolling Mantegne.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Martin can be. We be as clear as possible. Magas stupid.
I mean, I don't mean they stupid. I mean these
people are really absolutely positively stupid. Donald Trump ran on,

(05:09):
Oh I'm gonna jack up terrrists. We're gonna make so
much money from the tarrors. And these idiots believe that
twice Impeach criminally convicted felling in cheap the con man
hauls so foul for bankruptcy multiple times. See they held
them up as this amazing economic genius. Oh he's a businessman.

(05:31):
Oh man, what's wrong with y'all? We're gonna do so
much better from him. Now, all of a sudden, we've
ignited a global trade war. The stock market has collapsed.
People are saying it's gonna be a recession. JP Morgan
raised its odds of a US recession to sixty percent,
up from forty percent. Other banks have similarly adjusted their
economic forecasts downward. We literally are witnessing an economic catastrophe.

(05:55):
But hashtag we tried to tell you today's morning's ready
in Europe began with a sharp decline. German dats failed
by more than six point five percent, the Brits five percent,
the French six percent. These losses are a continuation of
the wave of horror.

Speaker 11 (06:11):
He called it Liberation Day.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
As a result of the tears, Asian markets have already
demonstrated a sea of red. Japanese Nikai at the peak
was down almost nine percent, and Hang Sing in Hong
Kong fail by more than thirteen percent. South Korea and
Taiwan also in a deep red zone. Chinese investors a
warning on Terrible Monday, and remember he said on Wednesday,

(06:34):
I'm gonna jack up Chinese tears even more. The folks
at Fox News are having to own up to, oh
my god, what the hell is going on?

Speaker 11 (06:44):
Things are going bad.

Speaker 13 (06:52):
You are introducing companion legislation.

Speaker 14 (06:55):
Investors have seen in their lifetime when this crash is done.
But you don't want to try to be a hero
and pick the exact bottom. So if your position correctly,
you could you could be nibbling today.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
I prefer to call it a collapse rather than a crash.

Speaker 11 (07:09):
That's a very emotive.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Word, folks. That was just that was one Fox show
we ain't done yet. Here's Maria Bartiromo finally admitting might
be a recession.

Speaker 15 (07:22):
To Senator can't Well, Christ we will see some products actually,
you know, be raised in price because companies will pass
on the cost of tariffs to consumers.

Speaker 16 (07:37):
I would expect that. That's why you have some people
saying that we could see a recession, we'll see a
growth slow down. This morning, Nancy Lazarre, who I follow
very closely and I think she's terrific. From Piper Sandler,
she says, if the tariffs stay in place for at
least the next six months, even if only fifty percent
of the price shocks, where we're seeing products go higher
in price show through the economy. US oil GDP is

(08:01):
on track to decline about one percent in the second
quarter and in the third quarter with unemployment rising.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
Billy, I thought this was supposed to be the Golden Age.
What happened? Nebraska Congressman Don Vacon even he is like, Yo, Congress,
we got to have a lot of business.

Speaker 13 (08:23):
I know you are introducing companion legislation to what Senator
Can't Well just laid out for us. But as I
understand it, in the House, Republican leaders have already restricted
the ability to reign and changes to the Mexico, Canada
and China tariffs. They tucked language into the continuing resolution.
Does that get in your way when you are trying

(08:46):
to now claw back some congressional control of tariffs?

Speaker 5 (08:51):
Well, for so, good morning, Margaret, thanks for having me on,
and I enjoyed listening to Sir Cantwell. I support the
legislation that center Grassley. Sir Cantwell, we have total suvy
Republicans in the Senate, and I have some beginning support
on the House side, which will unveil tomorrow. It will
be harder to pass us in the House, no doubt.
I think if we get sixty votes in the Senate,

(09:12):
they'll put pressure on the House to look at us.
And if we continue to see the stock market go
a certain direction, or if we see inflation or unemployment
shift in a bad way, I think then this bill
becomes a very viable bill. So will not pass tomorrow
or maybe in the next couple of weeks, but this
will be in the queue that we can use. And

(09:32):
it's time that Congress restores its authorities here and the
Constitution is clear. The House in the Congress has the
power of tariffs and taxes, and we gave some of
that power to the executive branch. And I think in
hindsight that was a mistake.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
Ah, he's saying that's a mistake. Well, guess what lived
Mike Johnson to speak of the House. He doesn't think so,
y'all want to see an idiot who's in a co
into this.

Speaker 9 (10:04):
We have to give the president space. As strategy has
playing out, it's been less than thee I think you.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
Go back his strategy. I love this. His strategy is
playing out. The economy is tanking, and he's like, but
things are just going swimmingly.

Speaker 11 (10:21):
Well really, hmm, that's interesting.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
Congressman Democrat leaders Hakim Jeffries said this, Thank you, Jamison.
The new trade representatives testified for the Center the House.

Speaker 17 (10:35):
Committees the next couple of days.

Speaker 15 (10:37):
What would be your question to Career about these tars?

Speaker 18 (10:44):
The Trump tariffs, which are a tax on the American people,
are so reckless, so unstrategic, so lacking in anyphistication that
the only conclusion that one can draw is that Donald

(11:07):
Trump and Republicans are intentionally tanking the economy. Is it
because as Donald Trump has indicated that during tough economic times,
the rich get richer and it's a buying opportunity. Those
are Trump's words. Can you confirm?

Speaker 9 (11:29):
But what's your question to.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
These people? These people literally are idiots. And oh, he's
executing his plan. I don't what is he actually executing?
I don't understand. Does anybody know what this fool is doing?
And what was cracking up to me is that they

(11:57):
literally spout lies with no backup whatsoever. Here is the
liar in chief, Donald Trump sitting in the Oval Office
lying about the European Union impact the United States. Again,
what y'all about to hear is fifty three seconds of utter,

(12:18):
complete bullshit, PRIs said.

Speaker 19 (12:23):
Mayo has said that they have offered zero for zero
tariffs on cars and industrial goods.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
Is that not a not?

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Well?

Speaker 7 (12:31):
The EU, No, it's not.

Speaker 20 (12:33):
The EU has been very tough over the years.

Speaker 21 (12:36):
It was I always say it was formed to really
do damage to the United States and trade.

Speaker 17 (12:43):
That's the reason it was formed.

Speaker 9 (12:44):
It was formed with all of.

Speaker 20 (12:46):
The countries from Europe, I guess most of them, not
all of them, but most of them, and they formed
together to create a little bit of a monopoly situation
to create a unified force against the United States, but trade.
So they have NATO, which is largely the same countries,
and they took advantage of US dollar wise and militarily

(13:09):
until I got there. You know, I was able to
get six hundred billion dollars from NATO.

Speaker 11 (13:14):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
First, the European Union was not created to pain loves
the United States. That's a lie. Then the idiot said,
they have NATO, We're in NATO, We created NATO. How

(13:53):
about to read a book. How about you actually studies?
But no, we can't do that. Then you're gonna love
this one here. So Trump gets asked, you know, you

(14:17):
guys slap some tars on some islands that are uninhabited
where penguins actually exist. But that was one country that
was missing from the tars. Putin's Russia. This is what
the Russian agent masquerading as the commander in chief actually

(14:41):
said to that.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Listen a little bit about your meeting potential meeting with
Gladimir Putin?

Speaker 9 (14:49):
Do you still plan to meet with him?

Speaker 17 (14:51):
Could that happen in Saudi Arabia? And maybe you could
elaborate as well, a little bit. I'm not providing terrorists
on Russia, sir.

Speaker 21 (14:57):
So the reason we're not talking about tariffs with Russia's
because we're not doing business essentially with Russia because they're
in a war and I'm not happy about what's going
on with.

Speaker 20 (15:10):
The bombing is they're bombing like crazy right now. I
don't know what's happening there. That's not a good situation.

Speaker 21 (15:17):
So we're meeting with Russia, we're meeting with Ukraine, and
we're getting sort of close, but I'm not happy with
all the bombing that's going in the last week or so.

Speaker 11 (15:27):
Confused. I'm confused.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
So we have slapped significant tears on our allies, but
not Russia. Does somebody want to explain to me? Why
not Russia? Just anybody want to explain you know what

(15:53):
that problem is? Then you always have got to count
on these real these stupid people. Do you know who's
one of these really stupid people? Meghan McCain. Now, let's
be real clear. The only reason we're even talking about

(16:14):
Meghan McCain is because of her father, her father, her father,
her father, her father, her father, her father, her father,
her father, her father. That's it, that's all.

Speaker 11 (16:26):
She is the poster child for NEPO babies. That's what
she is. She's a NEPO baby.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
She's only gotten her jobs because of her father. We
only know about her because of her father. That's how
she got her.

Speaker 11 (16:45):
Media jobs because of her father.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
So Fox News, MSNBC the view, Like I mean, I mean,
we could just go down the line, y'all, all of
these play. All the people hired Megan McCain not because
she's right, not because she's smart, because she the daughterar

(17:09):
sinner John McCain. So you can always count on just
sheer stupidity for Megan McCain. Now, when I was at CNN,
Megan McCain said she.

Speaker 11 (17:24):
Was a fan of mine. She has since gotten.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
Upset because I've criticized her because she's blocked to be
on Twitter. Okay, but when you say dumb shit, I
just don't have the capacity to ignore dumb shit from
NEPO babies who then criticize other people for using their

(17:48):
name to get things. So if you want to understand
the sheer stupidity of MAGA, I believe Meghan McCain says.
It all really two people, Meghan McCain and Bill Ackman,
the billionaire. So at seven twenty six pm on March fourth,

(18:12):
twenty twenty five, Meghan Nepo baby McCain posted this on Twitter.
Inject every single one of these policy proposals directly into
my veins. In my veins, that is Megan McCain saying everything,

(18:37):
everything that Donald Trump is proposing, inject into my veins. Don't.
I'm not gonna take it orally out of the warned suppository.
Put it right into my vein.

Speaker 11 (18:56):
That's what Meghan McCain said.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
At seven am on April.

Speaker 11 (19:04):
Seventh, twenty twenty five, Meghan.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Nepo baby McCain posted this, I'm not pretending to be
a financial expert, no shit, but there are so many
hypocriticals talking heads on TV saying they don't care about
losing money or being in financial pain for a while.

(19:29):
Most of you are married to finance bros, come from
rich families, Meghan, you come from a rich family or
have huge media contracts, Megan, that's you.

Speaker 11 (19:44):
You have a cushion if shit goes south.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
One of my best friends buys her groceries for her
family based on what coupons each store has. I assure
you a possible recession and are huge rise and prices
everywhere will be a different experience for her from her
family than you. I don't want people who've already suffered

(20:13):
so much to suffer anymore. But hey, that's just that's
just me. America is the land of plenty, and this
is normally a thing got a little bit. This is
normally a thing the Left does, asking Americans to suffer.

(20:36):
I may be the Emperor's new clothes here, but this
needs to be said.

Speaker 11 (20:50):
That was Megan McCain.

Speaker 8 (20:58):
What did Meghan say, oh, twenty four thirty days earlier,
inject every single one of these policy proposals directly into

(21:21):
my veins.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
That that.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
Megan.

Speaker 11 (21:29):
That was Megan mcain, the brilliant.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
Analyst, Megan McCain. So she's now crying because her friend
buys these groceries.

Speaker 11 (21:53):
And it's it's it's it's.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
Rough Bill act In. The billionaire decided to attack the
Commerce Secretary, Howard Lutnik, complaining, what the hell is he
talking about? These tears? Now you have this, idiot, if

(22:20):
you haven't noticed by now, I speak the truth, regardless
of the consequences to be personally or what other people think.
Then he says, I have no anger toward Them's just disappointment.
I don't think this was foreseeable. I assumed economic rationality
will be paramount. My bad, he said, y'all.

Speaker 22 (22:50):
I didn't see this coming, did.

Speaker 21 (23:02):
We're doing tariffs on other countries. Other countries are going
to finally, after seventy five years, pay us back for
all that we've done for the world, and the tariff
will be substantial. In some cases. I took in billions
and billions of dollars, as you know, from China. In fact,
they never took the tariff off because there was so
much money.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
They can't.

Speaker 21 (23:21):
They would totally destroy everything that they've set out to do.
They're taken in billions of dollars from China and other places.
They've left the tariffs on. When I had it, I
had tariffs, and yet I had no inflation.

Speaker 11 (23:33):
Y'all. See calm a light.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
Is he really saying this bullshit? And does he actually
think we are stupid enough to not hear what he's saying?
Go up at are.

Speaker 23 (23:55):
All paying a price for the policies which have resulted
in the Trump trade tax. We are paying more for
washing machines than shampoos. We are paying more in terms
of our farmers having to eat the cost of having
soybeans that they have been growing rotting in bins. We
are paying more in terms of autoworkers losing their jobs.

(24:15):
It has not been smart and has not been in
the best interest of the productivity in the workers of
our country.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
Oh do y'all know when she said that? That was
May thirty first, twenty nineteen. She said that the first
time this idiot was in the old office. Yeah, she
said that then. So this is not when she was running.
This is she said that in twenty nineteen. So if

(24:43):
you're Bill Ackman, how did you not see it? Because
the idiot did a last time we had to cough
up twenty five billion dollars to farmers because of this
dumb asses tear policy. Okay, maybe he wanted something more
recent of Vice presud than Kamala Harris warning a America,
don't he let this done as because the temples don't

(25:04):
check us up.

Speaker 23 (25:05):
Watch Let's be clear that the Trump administration resulted in
a trade deficit, one of the highest we've ever seen
in the history of America. He invited trade wars. You
want to talk about his deal with China. What he
ended up doing is under Donald Trump's presidency, he ended

(25:26):
up selling American chips to China to help them improve
and modernize their military, basically sold us out when a
policy about China should be in making sure the United
States of America wins the competition for the twenty first century,
which means focusing on the details of what that requires,

(25:47):
focusing on relationships with our allies, focusing on investing in
American based technology so that we win the race on AI,
on quantum computing, focusing on what we need to do
to support America's workforce so that we don't end up
having on the short end of the stick in terms
of workers' rights. But what Donald Trump did, let's talk

(26:10):
about this with COVID, is he actually thanked President she
for what he did during COVID. Look at his tweet,
thank you President She exclamation point when we know that
she was responsible for lacking and not giving us transparency
about the org.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
Hmm. Teresa Ltton, the principal and found with TML Communications
out of Philadelphia, Hot to Ohm Congo, the Bengal Senior
Professorial Lecture School, Being in National Service, American University. Also
author of the book Lies About Black People How to
How to Tell y'all know Live by Black Build.

Speaker 11 (26:46):
It's all by damn Lives. So just last list, last list.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
Uh and now caliber FAA communication strates also out of
dc MC. This this real simple. I mean like she
stated it to everybody else, talked about it. So all
these people who go, oh my god, I can believe
this is happening, where y'all.

Speaker 24 (27:05):
Being, Yeah, it's so hard to hear Vice President Harris
talk Man because of the opportunity that America wasted by
not putting her in office after all we did, and
she has every right to. I know, people like she
shouldn't say I told you so and everything, But the
fact that the matter is she did.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
The fact of the matter is you did.

Speaker 24 (27:27):
The fact of the matter is the entire Blackstar Network did,
and all of us did, but America didn't want it.
And this idea, you know, Acman and all of these guys,
we didn't know, We didn't think.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
This was possible. Megan McCain and so on.

Speaker 24 (27:38):
Y'all knew what was possible because this is exactly what
he ran on. And all of these people who don't
want to acknowledge the fact that people didn't want to
vote for a black woman all the people who don't
want to acknowledge the fact that this man ran on
white male Christianhood, even though he's the farthest thing away
from a Christian. All of the other Republicans had better
economic policies that are for Republicans, right. All this man

(28:02):
had was tariffs. Tariffs was gonna pay for daycare, Tarift
was gonna pay for everything. These other guys had actual policies,
and Americans rejected them and voted for him. So these
guys knew exactly what they were getting. They could have
went with the Sansus, they could have went with Haley, Varmaswami.
All of these guys, this is what they wanted. They
wanted the bomb Bass. They thought that they were going
to be closer to him and that they were going

(28:22):
to be exempted from everything that he was going to
do that would hurt other people. Because as long as
he was going to inflict pain on other people, deport
the illegal criminal aliens, as long as he was going
to give rid a quote unquote wark policies, they didn't care.
And now they're realizing that this man's plan, as you said,
Russian agent style, is to take the entire US economy.

(28:45):
How are you going to see you didn't put sanctions
on Russia because they're at war, but you have sanctions
on Ukraine. Everything this man says is a lie in
every way, shape or form. The question, but you've already answered,
is who's he doing this for? It's clearly not for us.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
I think the very simple who is he doing this for? Kelly?
I'll tell you, well, this is doing I've had multip
people see me this text message. He's taking the economy
because it makes it a lot easy for very rich
people to buy stocks at depressed prices.

Speaker 7 (29:14):
Absolutely, and it's interesting that you mentioned.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
The economy in this particular context because as of this morning,
if we had a competent president, he would be declaring
today the start of our recession.

Speaker 17 (29:29):
That's how bad the economy tanked over the weekend.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
So it to me like mccongae was talking about, like
he does nothing but lie.

Speaker 7 (29:40):
He has been lying his entire life.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
And I'm going to say it like I did during
the election season, and now we need.

Speaker 7 (29:49):
To listen to black women.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
And this country was clearly not ready for a black
woman president because otherwise she would.

Speaker 7 (29:58):
Be in office.

Speaker 19 (30:00):
Women worked three times as hard got a third of
the result.

Speaker 7 (30:04):
And we have been nitpicking and nitpicking and.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
Examining under the microscope of all microscopes as to what
went wrong.

Speaker 7 (30:11):
Nothing went wrong. You were wrong.

Speaker 4 (30:15):
You were wrong in your thought that a black woman
could not do this job, even though she has proven
time and time again her in her station as Senator,
in her station as AG for California, in all of
these roles, that she is able to do what she
said she's going to do and has strategies for such,

(30:36):
and nobody wanted to listen to her. So we are
here now because you didn't want to listen to a
black woman and what she had to say.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Well. Also, also, let's be clear, whole bunch of black
men also voted Vice President Kamala Harris. Actually two largest
groups were black women and black men. Teresa, but again
they got what they wanted. Now they're complaining hashtag.

Speaker 25 (31:00):
We try to tell you, yeah, that hashtag needs to
go viral. I think a lot of times when we
are listening to Donald Trump and his team, I think
it was actually more impressive is that every time he
goes open in his mouth, they cringe. So if we're
looking at you know, some of these interviews that are

(31:21):
happening during the day. You know, you can tell what
somebody just doesn't want to go to work today because
you just don't know what to expect. And I think
that's what we're seeing right here with Donald Trump and
some of the nonsense just coming out. Listen to both
of my colleagues point, you know, we have to realize
who Donald.

Speaker 17 (31:41):
Trump was talking to.

Speaker 25 (31:42):
He was talking to the American that did not understand
trade policy, did not really understand policy or what's going
on in the economy. He was talking to those that
with a simple message of making America great again, no
matter what that looked like to them, he got re elected.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
Indeed. Indeed, so that's just becarese. The tariff is one
thing these fools you're doing.

Speaker 26 (32:08):
Now.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
We also seeing how they are rewriting history. When we
come back, we'll check with Pastor Otis Manster third about
how these this racist administration really wants to just dismiss
black folks and just make shit up.

Speaker 11 (32:21):
That's the next roll about other folks on the Box Network.

Speaker 27 (32:31):
On the next Balanced Life with Me, Doctor Jackie, think
about for a moment some of those ichy behaviors that
you display every now and.

Speaker 28 (32:39):
Then, are you a petty, beatty or crabby kathy? Where
do those less than attractive traits come from? We all
have them, and more importantly, how do we get rid
of them to make certain that they don't infect other people?

Speaker 29 (32:54):
Pettiness is something that we all carry.

Speaker 4 (32:57):
It's just make sure that you carry it well and
you don't use it to intentionally hurt.

Speaker 27 (33:02):
On the next, a Balanced Life with Doctor Jackie on
black Star Network.

Speaker 17 (33:08):
This is Essence at Kins.

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Speaker 3 (33:13):
You're watching Roland Money. I'm killing it.

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Speaker 3 (34:56):
So before we start today show, y'all, I went outside
where we are located here, and I took a photo
of what used to be Black Lives Matter Plaza. Now,
when you used to go to Black Lives Matter Plaza,
used to see color. Come on, you used to see color,
used to see you know the letters black Lives Matter
there in gold Well. Now when you go to Black

(35:18):
Lives Matter Plaza, it looks just like the Republican Party.
Pale no color. This is emblematic of today's Republican Party.
They're the ones who forced Washington d C. To tear
apart this memorial. It is an effort by them to
erase US, erase monuments, National Park Service.

Speaker 11 (35:38):
What if they do.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
They removed Harry Tubmans photo in quote from their website,
replacing with images of Postal Service stamps that highlight black
white corporation in the secret network and that feature Tugman
among other abolitionists of both races. Now this goes right
the pattern because remember the attack on DEI led to

(36:01):
them removing the pages of Jackie Robinson and his role
played in the US Army, removing MegaR Evers and others
as well, removing historic women who in combat. I mean,
we go on and on and on. What we have
is is a whitewash. We have Donald Trump, jd Vance,
Elon Musk and Maga. They really want this to be

(36:24):
a white country. This is really a throwback to Jim Crow.
How they're attacking books the Navy. They've all then announced
that all of these different books that they are whacking
as well. We can go on and on and on.
So this is truly about erasure because for them, this
is a white country chicat No. Pastor Reverend Otis Marster

(36:46):
third recent TOES Congregation had a sermon and said we
will not be erased. Here's some of that.

Speaker 30 (36:54):
On Thursday, the Trump administration signed an executive order entitled
quote Restoring Truth and Sanity to American History. This order
targets two institutions, the Smithsonian Institution and the Department of Interior.
This order states, over the past quote over the past decade,

(37:15):
Americans have witnessed a concerted and widespread effort to rewrite
American history. This revisionist movement seeks to undermine the remarkable
achievements of the United States by casting the founding principles
and historical milestones.

Speaker 9 (37:29):
In a negative light.

Speaker 30 (37:31):
Human happiness is reconstructed as inherently racist, sexist, and oppressive.

Speaker 9 (37:37):
End of quote.

Speaker 30 (37:39):
The executive order takes specific aim at the National Museum
of African American History and the Museum of Women's History
that is yet to be built in the United States
in Washington, d C. The order specifically directs Vice President JD.

Speaker 11 (37:58):
Vance.

Speaker 30 (37:59):
As I mentioned previously in A five Minutes he is
an acolyte of the so called philosopher and anti Democratic
promoter Curtis Jarvin, who believes that some races are built
for servitude, and also Peter Tiel, who is a billionaire
funder of JD Vance, And it should be noted that
he is a South African africaner. And JD Vance has

(38:22):
been instructed by the person who occupies the White House
currently but not permanently named Trump two root out any
American divisive ideology and exhibits that make America look bad.
This executive order also seeks to reinstall Confederate monuments taken

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down during the Black Lives Matter movement.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
Jungers right now is rebend doctor Oti's master third Jungus
with Chicago. Of course, I will the appropriate attire today.
So glad to have you on the show, Fred. So
let's here's a deal. Product twenty twenty five lays all
this out. This was all by design. I laid all

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of this out. I lay all of this out in
my book White Fear. Okay, so the book band in Florida,
all of these different things we saw in two thousand.
Here's the real deal. These white folks have been mad
because they are pissed off with the racial recording that
took place with the murder of George Floyd. They attack

(39:34):
Black Lives Matter in twenty twenty one, the attack CRT
and use it during the election in twenty twenty two,
the attack woke in twenty twenty three. They attacked DII
in twenty twenty four. It's fundamentally clear. Anybody who doesn't
see this is purposely blind and crazy.

Speaker 6 (39:59):
Absolutely, absolutely, we witnessed this over and over again with
this administration. But this is a movement by not only
conservative forces, but I call them Confederate fanboys. And this
executive order was specifically targeting the National Museum of African

(40:20):
American History, but it was also designed as a distraction
because the day before the news cycle was about Signal
Gate and then an executive order targeting again black people.
And it is our responsibility as people of faith, as

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black people to ensure that no one erases our history.
And that is why we placed the National African American Museum,
the National Museum of afri American History.

Speaker 9 (40:56):
Into our budget.

Speaker 6 (40:58):
We had a church conference right you middle of worship
and said, you know, all those in favor of doing this,
because we will not be erased.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
But there is a problem here, pastor, and that is
there is something called the Wilson Center. The Wilson Center
was created by Congress. It is a think tank. The
Wilson Center is made up of Republicans and Democrats. And

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what Donald Trump did was he has shrunk this from
one hundred and thirty staffers to four, so it technically
still exists.

Speaker 11 (41:46):
One of the executive orders he launched.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
Targeted this where he announced that and again, this is
something that Congress created, and he directed the elimination to
the maximum extent consistent with applicable law of the Wilson
Center and other family funded entities. But here's what they've
also now done. So the CEO of the Wilson Center Republican,

(42:09):
fire that person. They replaced the board, including Republicans who
he appointed last time.

Speaker 11 (42:16):
Well, here they've also done.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
They're returning donor money. I am trying to make warn
people this is what they're going to do to the Smithsonian,
the National Museum African American History and Culture. I believe
that they're going to fire a loney bunch. I believe
that they're going to end up laying a lot of
his people off. I believe that they want to completely

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destroy the number one attendant Museum in Washington, d C.
Because they do not like the fact that it tells
the true story of America.

Speaker 6 (42:52):
I agree with you Wiland that there is a concerted
effort in reference to a rasure. One of the challenges
that they will face is that the board of regents
is seventeen individuals who also are a variety of people,
some Democrat, independent, you name it. This is a public

(43:14):
private partnership and we have authority in terms of protecting
this institution. And that is one why I believe that
faith communities should support the museum and educate the congregation.

Speaker 9 (43:33):
About what is happening.

Speaker 6 (43:34):
Two, that we have to also create spaces where we
are teaching history. Chose Defense Fund does a tremendous job
with what is called freedom schools during the summertime.

Speaker 9 (43:47):
This is a five.

Speaker 6 (43:49):
Alarm fire for our community to understand that there are
forces at work. And this didn't happen last year, this
didn't happen ten years ago. Ever since the Civil rights
freedom movement, there has been a concerted effort to return
America to a particular moment, mythic moment in history, and

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the civil Rights movement was an interruption of a white
supremacist project, and they have been trying to regain power
since then.

Speaker 9 (44:24):
I did a.

Speaker 6 (44:24):
Piece for the Church talking about Curtis Jarvin, the anti
democratic so called philosopher who influenced.

Speaker 9 (44:34):
Peter Teele Peter Tile who then funded JD.

Speaker 6 (44:38):
Vance and Curtis Jarvin has clear white supremacist ideology. I
did another piece aboutis Lewis Bloom. I'm sorry Lewis Powell.
Lewis Powell who wrote the Attack on the American free
market system because he believed that the Civil Rights movement,

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what black churches were doing was destroying America. That was
in nineteen seventy one, and his MIMO that he wrote
in nineteen seventy one went viral before there was anything we.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
Call viral, you said, Louis Powell.

Speaker 6 (45:15):
Yeah, Lewis Powell and Joseph Cors read his MIMO. When
Joseph Coors read the memo, he then took the money
from the Cores beer dynasty that he was a part
of and put that money to build what the Heritage
Foundation Boom. These people have been working because they witnessed

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what black people did when we organized, and they are
trying to quote unquote take back what they think mythically
is theirs, and we have to understand some of the
puppet masters that are behind the puppet who is in
the White House.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
The reason I've laid this out in the show that
the reason that they are so adamant about this is
because the Black Lives Matter movement was the first time
in American history that a black movement had a majority

(46:15):
of Americans supporting it. What they saw, never before in
the history of America has a black movement ever had
a majority of Americans agreeing with it. Not doctor King,
not a Philip Randolph, nobody. And what they saw was,
they said, you take that, you take with America becoming

(46:38):
a nation majority of people of color by twenty forty three,
depending upon what Latinos do, whether they want to call
themselves white, white Hispanics or not. And all of a
sudden you had young white people, young Latinos Asian Americans
who now were seeing, as Paul Harvey would say, the

(47:00):
rest of the story. And so these conservatives said, oh, no, no, no,
hell no, we cannot have the hearts and minds of
non black people now learning the true history of America.
So they start attacking the sixteen nineteen Project Trump comes

(47:21):
out with the seventeen supporting by also Robert Woodson, the
seventeen seventy six project, Oh, we're going to create this
garden of American heroes, his defending of them, removing and
changing the names of military bases and removing Confederate symbols
and plaques. After after ten black people were killed in Buffalo,

(47:44):
you only had one Republican, then Illinois Congressman Adam Kinzinger,
support a resolution calling for the end of the end
of racism and the end of the target of neo
Nazis and white supremacy. Republicans like now, now, we ain't voting
for that. And so they saw a new generation embracing

(48:09):
Black Lives Matter, and they said, oh, we got to
destroy all of this, and so they would have to BLM.
They followed the money. They focus on dissension. You had
right wingers who were infiltrating various events, starting fires, creating mayhem,
blame me BLM or it's Antifa. Then you begin to

(48:30):
see again all the attacks. It was because they said,
we kept this thing has gotten too far, and that's
when the book bans. That's when the targeting of that.
So they said, we have to completely destroy the entire
black civil rights and economic rights social justice infrastructure if

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we are going to maintain this thing for another fifty
two hundred years.

Speaker 9 (49:01):
Now, this is why it's so important what you do, Roland.

Speaker 6 (49:04):
You're creating an ecosystem of not only education, but an
ecosystem of information. Because one of the aspects of this
that we need to understand is what is called techno capitalism,
or this new movement by Silicon Valley to create an

(49:24):
ecosystem that assists those who are quote unquote in power
or think they're in power, and they are utilizing that ecosystem,
an ecosystem that drives fear, an ecosystem that continues that
this mythology that makes white people think that they're actually white,
the social construction, an ecosystem that is what I call

(49:48):
the digital Henrietta Lacks syndrome where they're taking our data
and they say that they own it, and then in
the process they are attempting.

Speaker 9 (49:59):
On a rature of black people.

Speaker 6 (50:01):
But this has been consistent in America since we have
been here, the mythology and the removal of our contributions,
and that is why we cannot depend on other people
to tell our story. We need what you are doing,
We need what other people are doing in terms of

(50:23):
creating an ecosystem of education. And that's why I believe
that churches and moss and synagogues and community spaces must
ban together to create spaces where we are telling the story.

Speaker 9 (50:38):
I love the African adage that is told.

Speaker 6 (50:44):
Why is it that the lion is always losing in
every story? And the story that the old man shares
back with a young child is simply this, When the
lion learns to tell his own story, he will be the.

Speaker 9 (51:00):
Hero of the story.

Speaker 6 (51:02):
Otherwise the hunter will always come out on top.

Speaker 9 (51:05):
And we've got to tell our own story.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
That's one of the reasons why I have been imploring
our people, we've got to support black on media because
we're going to be asking somebody else to tell our story.
People all up in arms and upset when MSNBC canceled
Joy and Read. And what I said is when you
own it, the only person who can cancel you as God.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
Well, what you laid out is critically important. And here's
what I hope this is the last question for you.
What is your message to other Black churches? Because as
I traveled the country and look, our numbers have been
exploding with our subscribers. Somebody put together that. Somebody put
together a chart, and the chart that they put together

(51:53):
sort of laid out you know who has seen the
growth on YouTube since the inauguration?

Speaker 11 (52:04):
And uh, they showed.

Speaker 3 (52:08):
Folks they put they put uh, they put.

Speaker 11 (52:10):
A blue dot.

Speaker 10 (52:12):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
They broke it down by red and blue. Republican, Democrat, conservative, Liberal.
However you want to frame that. Matter of fact, I
had my digital guy keen and change it, uh to
put a black bar on ours, because I said, that's
where we that's where we land. But the whole point
here is that when you look at the growth over

(52:37):
since the first quarter, we have been able to dramatically
increase our following uh and in fact, out of all
the people. So this was the chart fastest growing political
and non political adjacent YouTube channels. We were number twenty one,
ahead of The Bulwark, Bernie Sanders, Piers Morgan, Benny dons

(52:58):
and Jordan Peterson, Robert Reich, Glenn Kirshner, The New York Post,
Sam Cedar, Bill O'Reilly, Vox, the Ruben Report, all these people.
The reason this is important because if we are depending
upon folks who don't look like us, who think like us.
Then what happens is, to your point, they control the narrative,

(53:19):
but more importantly, they control the information flow to the
hearts and minds. And so with then we already see
this happening with the algorithm on all the social media channels,
because you click one thing and they're gonna flood your feed,
or with Elon Musk, now just force feeding you right
wing content. We have to have a counter.

Speaker 6 (53:43):
Yes, absolutely, and that's why I'm excited about what you
were doing.

Speaker 9 (53:49):
And my message to churches across.

Speaker 6 (53:54):
The nation, and I first have to give this addendum
in reference to this, that there's the Black church tradition,
and then there are churches that have black people. The
black church tradition is the tradition of Harriet Tubman, Frederick Douglass,
is the tradition of Fanny lou Hamer, is the tradition

(54:14):
of Martin King, a prophetic tradition that seeks to really
alleviate suffering of not only black people, but all people.
There are churches that that have black people in them,
and they are committed to a white evangelic or sometimes
really a capitalism and ecclesiastical garments. So for those that
are part of the Black Church tradition, we have a responsibility.

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We stand on the shoulders of others. So it is
our responsibility to tell our story. It's our responsibility to
support the Smithsony. It's our responsibility to share with our
congregants what you're doing Roland and other forms of independent media.
It's our responsibility to educate appropriately. And if you don't

(54:56):
have the information, please don't stand up the poolpit and
act like you do. Find someone who does, pick up
something known as a book, read it, get the information
and bring in the necessary experts who can break down
certain issues and policies so that our community can be

(55:19):
educated effectively. The Black church is one of the few
spaces we completely control. No one can cut off a
grant and say to us, you can't do that.

Speaker 9 (55:34):
We control it.

Speaker 6 (55:35):
And when the KKK wanted to bomb, they were not
bombing INAACP offices. They bomb churches because they were Black controlled.
They bombed, yes, Tulsa in terms of other spaces in there,
but that was also because it was black controlled. So

(55:56):
we need to recognize that we already have power and
the response that is happening right now is because they
witness what happens when black people are organized, faithful, praying,
and know that there is a vision to build in
the words of w eb De Boys, they yet to
be United States of America.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
And the reason I have a miror in my office
called hashtag black on Media Media manage y'all ship of
a video. The reason, if on that mirror that we
put this whole thing together is old to black on media.
The reason you do not see the cover of I B. L.
Barnett's newspaper, it is because not only they fire bomb churches,

(56:42):
they fire bombed her newspaper right she was writing about lynchings.
Then they put a bounty on her head. And so yes,
when you cut off the information flow, then you're able
to control the medium. So you laid it out there.
So I look forward to.

Speaker 11 (57:02):
What the heck?

Speaker 3 (57:02):
I think I need to come back to Chicago and
visit Trinity, and we need to do something together with
my book White Fear.

Speaker 9 (57:08):
Let's do it.

Speaker 6 (57:09):
Let's do a book signing, Let's have you educate. You
do such a great job, Roland. We really appreciate you.
The folks at Trinity love you, and we just continue
to do what you're doing. Brother, you have a ministry,
prophetic media ministry that is transforming people's lives and we are.

Speaker 11 (57:29):
Grateful appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (57:31):
Fret, thanks a bunch with chat soon, all right, take care,
all right, go to panel here.

Speaker 11 (57:37):
I mean, this is the teresa your communications.

Speaker 3 (57:41):
And it's called mass media for a reason. There's a
reason why it's called mass media. And we have to
wake up to understand that everything that we see, billboards,
television commercials, shows, radio programs, everything media is design to

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impact this.

Speaker 25 (58:06):
Yeah, mass media is very important. As the brother from
Trinity Church was actually explaining one, I have to say
congratulations to uh the analytics there as it relates to
your podcast, because that is a huge step and actually

(58:29):
understand probably the only media outlet that's really independently owned.

Speaker 17 (58:32):
So congratulations to that.

Speaker 3 (58:33):
Well guess what, ain't nobody else in this list black
other than what sane black. They got Kennison's on here,
So yeah, I'm the only black person on here.

Speaker 25 (58:43):
Yeah, the real the real world, the real black. But yeah,
as we talk about just you know, even mass media
in some of those areas from digital print, you know,
the podcasting, but being consistent is always you know, the
number one point into making sure that you know, people

(59:03):
are following, people are listening, they're paying attention. And I
think it all actually that's how history started, right They
started in radio, started in print, and once the voice
was cut, you know, especially black voices were cut. In history,
what happened, Riots start to happen more out of control,

(59:24):
narratives was pushed for different directions. And so the importance
of protecting communications really means having an educated sender. And
I think a lot of people, you know, watch these
different podcasts and shows because they're looking for thought leaders
to guide them to different perspectives that they may not know.

(59:46):
So it is, you know, incumbents of us. You know,
I could even say with this shove been on here
probably four plus years. But I'm not on here because
I look good. I'm on here because I'm bringing, and
like our other panels, something to the table from based
upon experience and the education that we receive. So is
it and tandem for us to give back more importantly,

(01:00:10):
you know, each and every day, Hey.

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
Folks, if y'all, if y'all having some issues with audio,
it's not us for sitting a clean feed.

Speaker 11 (01:00:17):
So some folks are saying you should.

Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
Log out YouTube or sign out and then sign back in.
So again that's not on us. Uh, so that's on them.

Speaker 17 (01:00:26):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
The thing, this erasure issue, k Kelly, is so important
because it is by design they want again. If you
strip it away, if you change the narrative, then you're
now creating an alternative, alternative facts for a whole new generation.

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But just how we got here to the first place,
all these white folks in this country and lots of
black folks them controlling the education system, force feeding us.
How great and wonderful the founding fathers were, and how
they loved and cared for all mankind and others. Well,
we begin to learn that a lot of that was BS.
But that's what happens when you learn true history, not

(01:01:12):
his story.

Speaker 4 (01:01:15):
Definitely, I think that a racist biggest fear outside of
the fears delineated very well in your book. Roland is
a grandchild asking questions, right, And we see that and
what you just outlined with the.

Speaker 7 (01:01:31):
Smithsonian and our museums and our.

Speaker 4 (01:01:35):
Places of entertainment that are being attacked and our history
trying to be revised. But you also see it, as
you've also said on this show in our education system.
I was actually just seeing a TikTok where a teacher
obviously the temple was facing her, so the children were
not videoed, but they were arguing with the teacher because

(01:01:58):
they had learned before coming to our class that the
enslaved were paid, and they legit thought that slaves were.

Speaker 7 (01:02:08):
Employees of plantations and the like. It's already starting.

Speaker 4 (01:02:13):
This revisionist history has already started, because these babies had
been asking questions that frankly, their grandparents can't answer without.

Speaker 7 (01:02:22):
Them becoming the villain. Right.

Speaker 4 (01:02:25):
And when you see my favorite museum in DC, for sure,
I call it the Blacksnian.

Speaker 7 (01:02:33):
Being under attack.

Speaker 4 (01:02:34):
Not because it's viewing misinformation, not because it's giving alternative, alternative,
alternative facts or anything like that, but because it's really
one of the few, if not the only museum in
the Smithsonian conglomerate that is as accurate and as forthcoming

(01:02:57):
as it is, and it is in your face, right,
you have no choice but to ask questions when you
were in that museum, You have no choice but to
learn something new every time you go in, because that's
just how much history, that's just how much information has
been hidden and frankly tried.

Speaker 19 (01:03:15):
To be destroyed by others so that we don't know
what's going on.

Speaker 4 (01:03:19):
So it is not surprising to me that history is
being under attack. What I do think should be happening
is the preservation.

Speaker 7 (01:03:31):
Of it, such as what you're doing with your show.

Speaker 4 (01:03:36):
TikTokers out there, social media influencers out there trying.

Speaker 7 (01:03:40):
To preserve history, preserve fact. But I don't think that
this is going.

Speaker 4 (01:03:46):
To be a situation in which Trump is going to
win or Conservatives are going to win. Is going to
be an uphill battle, but I think will come out
on time.

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
Mcconall the reason the reason riverds otis Moss talked about
we're talking about here. We're going to continue the conversation
with Blavity found the CEO Morgan Debond after this next break.
Is something that many people have talked about, including Marcus

(01:04:15):
Garvey in Message to the People The Course of African
Philosophy edited by Tony Martin. This is what Marcus Garvey
said in Lesson sixteen propaganda. Propaganda means to prepare or
to make known extensively some particular phase of human intelligence,
the desires to convert on influence the people to the
acceptance of the truth of that particular intelligence that has

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sought to be spread among them. Propaganda can be true
or false in its origin or intent, but it is
always directed at the public for the purpose of winning
the support of that public to the sentiment express in
the propaganda. He then goes on to say, propaganda is
as I said earlier. Propaganda is all around you to
make you buy a special brand of cigarettes, all no good,

(01:05:00):
but it advertised to be the best. To make you
drink or use a certain brand of te telling you
of its wonderful qualities and its everlasting benefits, when thee
is absolutely nothing to it.

Speaker 11 (01:05:10):
And so on.

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
He then also says, the press, cinema, pulpit, schoolroom are
all propaganda agencies for one thing or the other. The
pulpit carries religious propaganda, he says. The press carries out
written propaganda, the platform carries on oral propaganda. The cinema
carries out demonstrative propaganda. The white man is a great propagandist.

(01:05:34):
He fully and completely realizes the value of propaganda. Therefore,
you must organize your propaganda to undo the propaganda of
other people. But here is something else that I thought
would jumped out that I really think is important. Ticks
tear from your walls, all pictures that glorify other races.

(01:05:55):
Tear up and burn every bit of propaganda but does
not carry your idea of things.

Speaker 11 (01:06:00):
Treat them as trash.

Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
That's really evokes to me of the scene from Do
the Right Thing when he said, sall, why you ain't,
why you ain't.

Speaker 11 (01:06:07):
Got no black people on the wall. But here's the thing,
right here.

Speaker 3 (01:06:11):
Have your own newspapers, your own artists, your own sculptures,
your own pulpits, your own platforms. Print your own books,
and show your own motion pictures and sculpture your own subjects.
Never accept as yours your subjects of another race, but
glorify all the good in your sales. Finally, watch the newspapers, magazines,
and journals daily for propaganda against your race or your institutions.

(01:06:37):
It says, particularly against the unia rush into print. Immediately
a defense of your race, institutions and organizations from any attack.
Never allow an insult propagated to go unanswered by you.
This is why we talk about why we must not
just sit back and wait to see what Trump and

(01:06:58):
Doze and Musk and JD. Vansher going to do. They
are going to attack the National Museum of African American
History and Culture. They're going to attack every institution. We
must right now be mobilized and organized to prepare what
our response is going to be, and in fact, not
even wait for them to do it, to go on

(01:07:19):
the offense.

Speaker 24 (01:07:22):
Well, the whole part of what you read from Marcus
Garvey was so powerful, but that last part it really
explains what you mean when you say, people say, well,
why are you talking about this? Why are you talking
about that? And like you said, the algorithms out there.
People need to see that we are responding to the
nonsense that's out there because it feeds into the algorithms.
And if people don't understand what he's saying about propaganda, Trump,

(01:07:45):
his whole brain, his whole mindset is about propaganda.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
Hitler said.

Speaker 24 (01:07:48):
He who controls the media controls the rates. And that's
why Trump and Republicans know that right or wrong, whether
they repeat something long enough, people are going to start
saying it. Whether they repeat something long enough, people are
going to start believing it and acting accordingly. And we're
too spent in so many different spaces not bringing it together.
And that's why the Black Star Network is so important
because if we don't do this, particularly what he was

(01:08:10):
saying about, you know, tearing down things that don't represent
you and make sure that you have a rapid response
team when people are trying to denigrate you. Look at
what they're throwing at us every single day. How many
black outlets today have responded to what's been we've been
talking about today about Harriet Tubman, that what's been talking
about South Sudanese visas being retracted. Like, the responses can't

(01:08:31):
come by Friday, they have to become in real time.
And if we don't do this, we're going to lose
the narrative. What you said, Roland, in terms of how
you laid out why there are all of these attacks
on you know, for you know, black history and everything
it came from the support of the Black Lives Matter movement.
People are not connecting those dots. People are acting like, well,

(01:08:51):
black Lives Letter was over. It was then, and now
we're just onto something else. And it's all a system.
And if people like you who aren't out here to
identify find what we're dealing with, it's like James Baldwin said,
if you don't know what's happening behind you. You can't
understand what's happening around you, and so we have to
continue to build these platforms.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
We have to continue to support books like White Fear.

Speaker 24 (01:09:11):
I'm so glad you asked Reverend Monster that last question
about other black churches, because, like you said, there are
black churches and then there are.

Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
Black features in churches.

Speaker 24 (01:09:20):
It's night and day, and we have to continue to
build together to control our own information structure and platforms.

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
And nobody's leading it better than you.

Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
Folks.

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Going to a break, we come back.

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We'll continue the conversation about where's our money, segment about
the importance of black owned media, talking with the founder
and the CEO of Blavity.

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We're gonna talk about what's happening.

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Speaker 3 (01:13:09):
We don't fight this fight right now. You're not going
to have black on you. So you know what, I
get a kick out of the people who tell me, man,
you be out here, why you begging a white man
for money? Why you begging a white man for money?

(01:13:31):
When the fact of the matter is this industry, the
media industry, is completely controlled. It is run based upon advertising.
Some three hundred and fifty almost four hundred billion dollars
a year in the United States it is spent on advertising.
Another worldwide it's almost seven hundred billion dollars. What is

(01:13:56):
that industry about. It is about sell products. It's about
touching the hearts and minds of people, getting them to
buy those products. And so the question is where do
we stand in that. I can tell you right now.
The studies show that when we talk about black owned
media spend, these agencies and these companies are spending anywhere

(01:14:20):
from zero point five to one percent. That's total y'all,
that's all black on media. Federal government same thing, one
percent of all money being spent. And so whenever we
talk about this, see people are always saying, well, we
need our own sin In, we need our own New
York Times, we need our own Washington Post. Well, don't

(01:14:42):
you understand that they get advertising money.

Speaker 11 (01:14:46):
It is not an.

Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
Easy thing for us to do because we are dealing
with Jim Crow practices. We're dealing against people who don't
necessarily want to support exactly what we're doing. In they
literally create all of these loopholes you gonna jump through.
I mean, you'll see, you'll see all in the media participates.

(01:15:08):
You'll see a company. They ain't even launched yet. You'll
see a white company they ain't even launch yet. Get
a big old story in the New York Times, in
a Washington Post, and in the trade publications, in Deadline, Variety,
the Hollywood Reporter, the Wrap, all these things, and I'm like,

(01:15:29):
they got nothing to show for it. Y'all. Remember Quibbi,
y'all remember Jeffery Casnberg. That app came out during COVID
where you're supposed to be able to if you could
turn your phone and you can see the videos in
vertical or horizontal. And they sold out, y'all, listen to me.
They sold out their entire first year inventory of one

(01:15:52):
hundred and fifty million dollars before they launched. Now, now
let me help y'all out. They had zero metrics.

Speaker 11 (01:16:03):
What does that mean?

Speaker 3 (01:16:04):
By zero metrics meaning they had no proof that it'll work.
They were like, oh, oh, mag Whibben, Jeffrey Katzenberg one
hundred and fifty million dollars with iHeartRadio launched the Black
Information Network. They had no metrics, no ratings. They had

(01:16:30):
nine founding sponsors. McDonald's was one of them.

Speaker 11 (01:16:36):
Nine.

Speaker 3 (01:16:37):
Y'all. Ain't no black media company could launch and have
no metrics and lock up one hundred and fifty million dollars.
So I need y'all to understand what we are up against.
We talk about trying to raise money, trying to raise capital,
trying to build media companies, trying to be able to grow,

(01:16:59):
trying to be able to prowle for the reality is
that black owned media today is surviving, not thriving. When
you look at the companies, you look at an Urban one,
they own Radio one, they go about fifty plus stations,
TV one, Cleo Network on the digital assets the largest,

(01:17:19):
if you will, a black OneD media company, publicly traded company.

Speaker 11 (01:17:23):
They're operating with a different scale.

Speaker 3 (01:17:25):
When you start talking about even with Essence, gott to
understand something. The Essence Music Festival is responsible for it.
Ninety percent of the revenue of Essence Communications.

Speaker 11 (01:17:39):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:41):
And you heard reverind to otis Mass talk about the
importance of having platforms that we own in control because
we don't have to ask somebody permission for us to
do it. We don't have to explain to somebody why
we're actually doing this show. Joining us right now is
Mortgane the Bond. She's the founder of CEO of Blavity.

(01:18:03):
Under the Blavity umbrella, they've got Afrotech, They've got other
different conferences they do as well.

Speaker 11 (01:18:11):
Morgan.

Speaker 3 (01:18:11):
The upfronts are starting very soon. This is when all
of the networks are going to be in New York
and they're going to be rolling out and presenting all
of their new programming and plans to all the media buyers,
and all the folks are going to be there. Group
M is going to be there. We've gotten zero dollars
from them. Pooblicy is going to be there. We've got

(01:18:33):
zero dollars from them. You know, IPG, Horizon, McCann, everybody's
going to be there. And eighty percent of that almost
four hundred billion dollars is going to be spent between April,
May and June. And what happens is they have a

(01:18:54):
secondary ad market, which is in September, and then what
ends up having is called the scatter. We call that
the krongs. And that's when they call Black Media maybe
and say, hey, we got fifty thousand, we got sixty thousand,
We maybe have seventy thousand, because they're just trying to
spend it before the year in just give folk an

(01:19:15):
understanding of the realities of what you and Blavity has
had to deal with when you are a black owned
media company trying to crack the nut of this advertising
Jim Crow, Yeah, roll, and I think.

Speaker 33 (01:19:30):
You painted a great picture and turns of the realities
of what we're dealing with today. Blavity has been around
for over a decade, and we started off with one brand.
We now have five brands, and more importantly, we have
a huge publisher network of black owned media publishers that
are independent owned that don't have the resources necessarily to
have a huge sales team and run the ad technology

(01:19:51):
that's required, because the reality is that every year it
gets more difficult to live up to the standards that
they're requiring black media to actually hit, everything from viewability
of the ads on the website to the keyword blocking.
You didn't mention that in your open remarks that that's
one of the key reasons that they don't advertise huge
amounts of money with black audiences.

Speaker 17 (01:20:11):
Is because they don't dm us as brand safe.

Speaker 33 (01:20:14):
So over time, you've seen more and more black media
websites move away from news.

Speaker 3 (01:20:20):
No no right, no no no stop to stop there,
stop there, because people to understand something. Because so when
they say brands safe, what they say to us is, well,
you know a lot of brands, you know, you know,
they don't want an opinion. Then what happens is even
on YouTube when we if we show a video of
a cop shooting someone, that video gets demonetized because brands

(01:20:45):
I don't want that. But here's the crazy thing. While
they tell us brand safety, well I can turn on
Fox News and see all sorts of brands, major brands.

Speaker 17 (01:20:58):
That's right.

Speaker 33 (01:20:59):
And first, you know, we have a website called shadow
Enact that is an entertainment site and we'll write articles
about things like fifty cent shows or you know, all
the types of content that goes online. But because we're
a black site and you see us talking about a
cop show or you see us talking about drugs, you
think that it's not brand safe when we're talking about

(01:21:20):
some of the top shows in the world, right right,
you know, And I think what happens to Roland is
that systemically what happens is we have to fight for
every dollar earned. So let's say that example, we're talking
about you know, a stars show, and it comes out
that article goes viral, but we find out after the

(01:21:40):
fact that all of the ads on that site no
longer count because it was deemed brand safe.

Speaker 3 (01:21:45):
Well hold up, hold on, hold up. Hold Let's start
right there, though, because here you are writing about this
Stars show is Stars advertising.

Speaker 17 (01:21:56):
You already know the answer to these questions.

Speaker 3 (01:21:58):
Say right there. So what happens is what happened. And
I've made this perfectly clear, and I've literally had the
folk hit me. I've said to you know, I don't
mind entertainment. There are people, there are people who I
know on those shows. There have been people who have
texted me, Hey, I would love to man, man, can

(01:22:20):
I get on your show? And I've had to say,
say Bru, say sis, I love you. I think you're great,
but I can't put you on my show because your
streaming service, your company never calls about advertising. They never call.
And so I've said to Amazon, Prime, Prime Video, Netflix,

(01:22:43):
Stars Max Own, Hulu, Paramount plus all of them, I
am not going to do any segments of your shows
on my network because y'all publicists.

Speaker 11 (01:23:00):
Listen.

Speaker 3 (01:23:00):
I just told this to a car company that invited
me down to a music festival. I said, I'm not
giving y'all three days in coverage. I said, when your
car company don't advertise, and it's not a quid pro quote.
I'm not saying I'll do this if you advertise. What
I am saying is if you think my audience is

(01:23:22):
valuable enough to showcase your talent to bring their black eyeballs,
then my audience is also valuable enough for you to
cut a check.

Speaker 33 (01:23:33):
And I think Roland that's the challenge with black media
is we're always having to make these choices. I mean,
you were just reading conversations and theories from Marcus Garvey
about well, when there's artists and creators and stories that
are promoting our culture that are out like entertainment and
news and publications and movies and TV shows, but they're

(01:23:54):
controlled by way capitalists.

Speaker 17 (01:23:57):
You know what decision does at Black on media?

Speaker 33 (01:23:59):
Do do we say we're not going to cover some
of these shows when it's written or produced by someone black,
even though it's owned and distributed by a network that
it's not going to give us a dollar? Are we
going to write the articles about HBCUs or we're going
to write the articles about gun violence when we know
that we're going to make negative money every time we
write that article. How do we sustain ourselves when we're
given these types of requirements.

Speaker 3 (01:24:22):
Let let's talk about this here as well. Because you
touched on it, you touched on it earlier. We've experienced this,
just shared our folks the request that they make. My
good friend Todd Brown at Urban Age Network co founder,
he always says, they always want that one thing that

(01:24:45):
you don't have. You can have thirty things. It's like,
but do you have this? Ah, you know what we
were really we really need that one thing in essence
these agencies, and it's what the agencies. I let the
brands off hook. But what they're doing is their whole
goal is to search for a way to say no.

Speaker 33 (01:25:08):
They can say they tried, right, so they can say, well,
we had intent to commit, and we made a commitment
to spend a million dollars, two million dollars, three million
dollars in our upfront, and then throughout the year there's
all these reasons why it didn't happen and why they
have to pull back.

Speaker 17 (01:25:24):
And I think that's the reality of what we're doing
with today.

Speaker 33 (01:25:27):
We saw when George Floyd was murdered that all of
these giant commitments you've talked about on the show before,
huge commitments to black on media, and then when it
didn't pan out year over year despite us applying a
ton of pressure, all of us building tons of inventory
and capacity year over year growth, they said, oh, well,
now we have this new requirement where you need to

(01:25:48):
give us twenty percent in kind impressions or you need
to show all of this has to be in media.
We're not going to sponsor your content, Tempoles, We're not
going to sponsor your events.

Speaker 17 (01:25:57):
It needs to be one hundred percent media. And it
also needs to be one hundred percent viewable, which is impossible.
It's an impossible standard.

Speaker 33 (01:26:03):
It means I'm throwing out I have to give you
one hundred and twenty percent impressions so that you can
throw out the twenty percent that weren't viewable.

Speaker 11 (01:26:11):
Yeah, absolutely so.

Speaker 3 (01:26:13):
And so what it is is it is ah, it
is an effort to say no, you mentioned there's a
word there. You mentioned that that immediately struck me. You
said events, and here's something else that they do. And
let me real clear to everybody who's watching, I don't begrudge.
Let me be real clear, I don't begrudge any black

(01:26:36):
owned media company that has receptions, award shows, conferences or whatever.
But here's here's what they do, Morgan. What they do
is they'll sit here and say, oh, what's your calendar?
Do you have any events? You do you give an
award show?

Speaker 11 (01:26:56):
Yeah, oh yeah, we'll sponsor that.

Speaker 3 (01:26:59):
So what then has happens is you have to in essence,
create a whole, separate entity that is event driven. That's
a whole staff, that's a whole that's a whole different
core business, as opposed to when you've a media company,
you and just ads, you press a button, it goes out.
You don't have to build this. So you're running around

(01:27:21):
now spending months putting on a conference, putting on a summit,
putting on awards program and then you're doing all of
this sort of stuff. And then when you look at
the numbers, the margin frankly is low because it's not
like they're spending significant amounts. And I literally said two
brands and two eight and decies, No, I ain't doing it.

(01:27:43):
And I literally have said in other list, my grandmother
the catering business. So I cater since I was seven
years old. I stopped when I was thirty, So I
kind of know a little bit about events and how
to put on the events. And I've said, no, we're
in the media business. I want to do the same
thing Disney and Comcast does. That's pressure down button. I
am not going to go create a second if I

(01:28:03):
want to create an event business, I want to create
an event business. That's another thing that they do. That's
sort of just that. So they freeze us out of
the advertising money and they force black oed media into
the event business.

Speaker 33 (01:28:16):
Yeah, quite as it's kept most of our peers eighty percent,
as you mentioned, Essence and others are in the event business.
That is where the majority of the revenue comes from.
I too, also build an event business. Right Afrotech is
the largest professional gathering of young black professionals in this
whole country.

Speaker 17 (01:28:33):
And it is a separate team.

Speaker 33 (01:28:34):
It's a separate sales team, it's a separate whole freaking team.

Speaker 17 (01:28:38):
And it was a lot of money to build and
it's a lot of money to maintain.

Speaker 33 (01:28:42):
And it's been interesting as times have changed, how more
and more of our media advertisers who originally weren't that
interested in technology or innovation or Silicon Valley are not like, oh,
how do I sponsor this, and I'm like, no, you
need to stay where you're aat on the digital side.

Speaker 11 (01:29:00):
Yeah, it is, it is.

Speaker 3 (01:29:02):
People have no idea the hell we come to last question.
I'm a throaty before I go to my panel, Uh
is this here? Let's talk about and how have you
had to navigate the battle between the brand going oh, no, no,
it's it's the agency, and then the agency going oh no, no, no,
it's the brand, and then the brand said no, no, no, no,

(01:29:24):
it's the agency. The agency is the brand. Like I've
literally had to tell some brands, yo, it's your money.
Stop stop all this back and forth. Is your money.
I've even had an experience where a major brand, I'm
talking about a major, major, major, major brand, we did

(01:29:46):
a deal, a high six figure deal, and the brand
was like, yo, let's go the black folks in the
in the in the in the brand said hey, you
need to call it agency deal, all paperwork stuff. So
I okay, I email the agency and let's you say Molly.

(01:30:07):
In fact, that was her name, Molly. So Molly sends
me an email back with a question. I'm like, okay,
well I answer the question. Molly asked me a second question,
and I'm like, the hell's going on? Like, am I
being vetted again? So then I hit the black people.

(01:30:29):
Oh no, no, no, it's just you know this, you
know it's the paperwork stuff whatever. So then Molly comes
back with a third question. So I don't even call
the black people. Now I called a white guy who's
over the whole thing. I was like, yo, what's up.
He goes, who the hell is Molly? I said, say, man,
that ain't that ain't me, that's your agency. So they
had a meeting the next day. He said, you know what,

(01:30:50):
that's a call tomorrow. He said, I'm gonna jump on
this call. So he gets on the call. Molly is shocked.
He's on the call. Molly goes, are you we're all
aware that he has a segment on his show called
crazy ass White People. The white exec goes, am I

(01:31:11):
on it? He goes, yes, we are aware, and it's
a segment that's highlighting racist attacks on black people just
trying to do their jobs. Molly with the agency tried
to block the deal after the brand has already signed off.

(01:31:32):
He goes, you know what, We're just gonna pay him direct.
Now he was the crazy thing Morgan. I had described
this very issue to the CMO of the brand and
others four months previously. They saw in real time how
an agency will try to block a deal because you

(01:31:55):
know what, the agencies hate. The agency can't stand when
you go to the client and the client issues a
dictate because the agency they want to decide how the
client's money is spent, and they are pissed when you
do that.

Speaker 33 (01:32:12):
That's right, Roland. My best advice to every single entrepreneur
and founder that I talk to is it's okay to
be difficult. The difficult people are the ones who win
at the end of the day. I tell my sellers
every single day, well, who is the decision maker behind
the agency.

Speaker 17 (01:32:24):
I don't want to talk to the agency. The agency
is going to execute. We're gonna have a relationship with them,
but they work for the client.

Speaker 33 (01:32:30):
So if you don't know who's actually signing the check
to the agency, then you haven't done your job.

Speaker 17 (01:32:36):
You need to get in the field. You need to
go to these meetings. You need to be super annoying.

Speaker 33 (01:32:39):
If you need meet us in the email, you need
me to set up a meeting when I'm in that city,
I will do it, because that is the only way
that we've been able to survive a decade is actually
going straight to the decision maker and making them uncomfortable.

Speaker 17 (01:32:53):
But nine times out of ten they don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:32:55):
They actually do not.

Speaker 33 (01:32:56):
Know what's going on behind the scenes because we are
such a small all rounding air and their total marketing budget,
even if they have all good intent, it's so small
that they are literally like, oh, yeah, sure, we can
give you seven hundred thousand dollars or million dollars because
it's nothing actually compared to their total budget spend.

Speaker 3 (01:33:16):
This is my last go before you go to my
panel here, so this is going to my IPA anthy.
So this yere is the Upfronts and New Fronts twenty
twenty five calendar. I just want people to understand. If
y'all see how extensive this is, and you see all
you see right here, Reach TV April fourth, fourteenth at

(01:33:38):
two pm in New York. That's a black owned companies.
We just can keep going, y'all see all of this.
So agencies and different media companies they put.

Speaker 17 (01:33:48):
On digital hu maor Digital's Black Shila Mormon.

Speaker 3 (01:33:54):
Okay, mere digital right here, let's see here, Okay, so
you got all. So this is all, This is all
April in May in different deal now now here. Now
Here's the other thing, Morgan, The agencies will invite brands
now also have these equity upfronts. So basically Anthony comeback

(01:34:15):
so hastily. What they do is they don't invite us
to the main show. So they created these equity upfronts
after this is after George Floyd's death for us to
go present, and hell, we do that and we don't
get no money from the equity upfronts. Has Glavity been
invited by any agency to present at this year's upfronts.

Speaker 33 (01:34:36):
No, which reminded to the equity upfronts which were a
few weeks ago.

Speaker 17 (01:34:40):
So there are also not happening at the same time.
So we're not in the city.

Speaker 33 (01:34:43):
You know, we fly into the city because our team
is setting up meetings, but it's not designed for us
to be a part of the ecosystem when the decisions
are being made and the deals are being made.

Speaker 3 (01:34:53):
So for folks to understand, they created the equity up
fronts for us to talk to to diverse media, but
the real upfronts is here and they don't invite us
to this and I get you know, I see what
Mirror is trying to do, Sheila and reach TV as well.

(01:35:14):
But guess what, you can spend a lot of money
putting the whole show on everything, Like at the end
of the day, are you getting any money in return?
And more often than not, which is not not? You
ain't getting jack in return. You're spending They don't mind
you flying to New York and come and meet with them,
and all you being rewarded with or meetings or as

(01:35:35):
by Fred Todd Brown says, everybody in this meeting is
being paid except me. Y'all are paid to be in
the meeting. I'm paying to be in this meeting. Questions questions, Kelly,
you first, sure, with the talk.

Speaker 4 (01:35:51):
Of DEI policies going away and things of that nature,
how has the erasure of DEI policy specifically in this
industry impacted.

Speaker 7 (01:36:04):
Your bottom line if at all?

Speaker 4 (01:36:07):
And do you see you know, news of you know,
possible recession and things like that, how do you think
that's going to be impacting your business as far as
media and advertising dollars?

Speaker 17 (01:36:21):
Yeah, the blavity brands are strong.

Speaker 33 (01:36:23):
You know, we're one of the few publishers that has
the diversity of brands because we have a variety of
lifestyle brands and we have our publisher network, so our
revenue is actually very strong compared to even last year
or the year before. The reason for this is because
even in downturns and recessions, we actually see an increase
in advertising and spending, particularly for the types of products
and services that people like to advertise to black people,

(01:36:45):
which is fast food and kind of things of that nature, entertainment,
and I think when it comes to D and I,
it's really interesting actually because you see the news in
the press on one side, and then I see an
RFP and IO comment on the other side from that
same company, So.

Speaker 7 (01:37:04):
You know rolling.

Speaker 33 (01:37:05):
I don't know if that's been your experience, but so far,
that's how what we've been seeing is that there's a
lot of politicking and then at the end of the day,
they still need growth for their business and black people
are one of the undertapped markets in this country, and
so they know we can potentially.

Speaker 17 (01:37:22):
Grow our top and bottom line by getting more black customers.

Speaker 11 (01:37:26):
Indeed, on the Congo.

Speaker 24 (01:37:31):
Thank you so much, mister Mond, for all your incredible
work over the years. My question to you is similar
to when we see what's happening with the Trump administration,
we start to see a rise in more black people
applying to HBCUs and they're like, do you see a
larger turn towards black owned media when these attacks from
the Trump administration are happening as well?

Speaker 1 (01:37:54):
Or is there sort of like a.

Speaker 3 (01:37:56):
Problem?

Speaker 1 (01:37:57):
Do your numbers pretty much stay the same.

Speaker 33 (01:38:00):
Our traffic has gone up year over year, And I
do believe that the reason that that's happened is because
people are looking for a source of truth when there's
so much misinformation and propaganda going on mainstream news. You know,
the moment that the news, mainstream news basically showed us, hey,
we're going to be beholden to the Trump administration.

Speaker 17 (01:38:18):
We're going to let go of people like joy Read.
We're going to let go of people who are like
tellers of truth.

Speaker 33 (01:38:24):
That was the moment that I think black people said, Okay,
I need to switch my information input. So our newsletter
goes out every single day to a million plus people,
and that is a place where people are able to
get the news and information.

Speaker 17 (01:38:36):
You know, one of the.

Speaker 33 (01:38:36):
Challenges that we have is how do you finance the
news and information that is chronically underfunded. Knowing what I
talked about earlier in terms of keyword blocking, that that
has not changed. So how do we manage that. That's
something that we're actively working through. I mean, I love
your guys's model in terms of having direct contributions. We've
talked about doing that, but really trying to figure out
how can we strengthen our financing for reporting, which is

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very different than lifestyle content.

Speaker 11 (01:39:02):
Yep, yep, absolutely, Teresa.

Speaker 31 (01:39:07):
So Morgan, thank you so much for coming on.

Speaker 17 (01:39:10):
I am definitely an admirer of your work.

Speaker 25 (01:39:13):
I am in the PR space, so I have been
on the other end of making sure that some of
those media adviys go out. I know you guys have a.

Speaker 17 (01:39:25):
I think you call it like Blavity Fest, and you
have it every year.

Speaker 7 (01:39:29):
How have you seen some of the turnout in terms of, like.

Speaker 25 (01:39:32):
You know, interested individuals and those who are sponsoring the events,
especially since Donald Trump came into office.

Speaker 33 (01:39:42):
Yeah, Blavity Fast is at the end of May and
May thirty first, June first in Atlanta, bringing it straight
to the people. We've got line up with two chains
and Kirk Franklin and tons of incredible speakers.

Speaker 7 (01:39:54):
That will be there.

Speaker 17 (01:39:57):
Sponsors are not bullish.

Speaker 33 (01:39:59):
I do think that there's been a bit of a
pullback on anything that they can't measure the return on investment.

Speaker 17 (01:40:04):
So we're seeing more and more of our partners.

Speaker 33 (01:40:06):
Ask for things that they can track, which is you know,
digital display, advertising, social media, creator post, influencer post, things
like that, and less of things that were brand affiliation
or brand association plays like a sponsorship of a festival.

Speaker 11 (01:40:20):
You know.

Speaker 33 (01:40:21):
The good news is that festivals do have ticket sales,
and I believe that the Atlanta audience, you know, people
in Alabama, the Carolinas are going to come in droves
to be able to come together and celebrate, especially when
you know it's a rough economy right now, and I
think people want to be together.

Speaker 25 (01:40:35):
Last we met, we need that in Philadelphia here.

Speaker 17 (01:40:39):
So you guys got the Roots Festival, which I think
is pretty strong.

Speaker 25 (01:40:44):
It's good, but I think Blavity offers a little bit
more programming than entertainment and music.

Speaker 11 (01:40:50):
Yes, true, that true.

Speaker 3 (01:40:51):
That last question I have for you and had this
conversation over the weekend. Morgan, what has been your experience
in trying to collaborate with other black owned media brands.
I was talking to somebout with the Weekend about this

(01:41:12):
and I said, listen, I said, I think for a
lot of the larger ones, they want to live in silos.

Speaker 11 (01:41:20):
They don't want to partner. They see people as upstarts.

Speaker 3 (01:41:22):
I said, the bottom line is, with thirteen percent of
the population, we should be going into these places operating
as a collective and then going in asking for a
large number and then we split the money up later.
But also I think a huge problem is that there
have been there are too many people. They want to
be the only one. They think they can eat all

(01:41:43):
of it. I said, Disney can't eat all of it,
Comcasts can't eat all of it. I have a very
simple philosophy. I want everybody to eat. I want Blavy
to eat. I want Black Enterprise to eat, I want
Urban one to eat, I want a revolt to eat.
I want black papers to eat, one us to eat.
That's actually enough, and if we operate in the collective,

(01:42:04):
I think we can take down more. The problem is
it's a bunch of folk with ego who do not
actually want to collaborate and don't want to partner.

Speaker 33 (01:42:14):
What has been your experience, rolland every year behind closed doors,
I try to buy or sell myself to another company because.

Speaker 17 (01:42:25):
I truly believe that we will only win if we consolidate.

Speaker 33 (01:42:28):
I've done three acquisitions in the last ten years of
black owned businesses bringing them under the Blavity fold, and
I believe that it's the right way to grow and scale.
Pretty much everyone that you've named, I've talked to. But
to your point, they're comfortable. Some of these are family businesses.
Most of them at this point are family businesses owned
by wealthy individuals or families that have seven hundred million

(01:42:52):
dollar plus in net worth.

Speaker 7 (01:42:53):
So they want the power.

Speaker 17 (01:42:54):
They want the power of the distribution channel so that
they can be the key makers.

Speaker 33 (01:42:58):
And that's nice, but that doesn't really serve the people
because it doesn't allow us to consolidate the resources of
all of this overhead that we all have to carry in.

Speaker 17 (01:43:08):
Order to be able to tell the truth.

Speaker 33 (01:43:09):
It doesn't make sense for all of us to have
a CFO, for us to all have our own eye
technology we've got, for us to all have the same
media sellers that are going against the same media agencies
is absolutely.

Speaker 17 (01:43:20):
A waste of money. And if anybody wants to call
me after this, you all have my number.

Speaker 3 (01:43:25):
Yeah, well, I mean listen, there were a lot of
folk who I personally sat down with travel too before
I even started this, and I said, I said, I'm
doing what you're not doing, so there's no competition here.
And folks didn't want to partner. And I said, okay, fine,
I'm just gonna do it ourselves.

Speaker 11 (01:43:46):
And you're right. I've been preaching consolidation for a very
long time.

Speaker 3 (01:43:50):
I remember got rich his soul Jim Washington, who was
the owner published of the Dallas Weekly. When I ran
the Dallas Weekly in nineteen ninety eight as managing editor.
He was like, He's like, mister Martin, why are you
always trying to put my competitors out of business? I said,
I'm not trying to put them on the business. I said,
I just think it's stupid as hell. You got seven
black newspapers in Dallas. I said, Dallas ain't big enough

(01:44:12):
to support black news, seven black papers. I said, it
ain't big enough to support two daily newspapers. So what
what makes you think that these seven black people are
going to be surviving and thriving, I mean thriving. And
the reality is that was seven different people, seven egos,
seven people who wanted invitations to the mayor's event, to
the Christmas party or whatever the hell. And I said

(01:44:33):
to him, Jim, I said, we're getting We're not getting
ad dollars, Jim, We're getting community affairs dollars.

Speaker 33 (01:44:40):
I said, say to Roland is behind the scenes, a
lot of us are collaborating on the revenue side. So
many of the publications you mentioned are on our AD network,
so we are running their ad technology and doing the sales.
But what we're not collaborating is for people who own
and dominate different different distribution channels, like you are the
best on the YouTube, and when it comes to digital video,

(01:45:01):
there's no one that comes even close to your reach
and your distribution. Right then there's people who have television
and radio. That's actually where I think the consolidation needs
top and what will have a lot of strength.

Speaker 3 (01:45:11):
Oh no, absolutely, And I can tell you, and I'm
going back. Matter of Fact'm gonna always use George Floyd
as an example. That happened on May twenty fifth, twenty
twenty and what so we were watching there was a
mortal day. It was a Monday, and we're watching the
protests unfold. And I remember in Saturday, something was burning
and everybody is talking, and I think it was like

(01:45:33):
at nine o'clock at night. I sent an email to
like twenty plus different people and I said, why are
we all watching white mainstream media break down?

Speaker 11 (01:45:44):
What's happening?

Speaker 3 (01:45:46):
I said, why don't we all come together and produce
our own show. I looked at them, this done, this
is not We were not in this studio. We were
not in this fifty eight hundred square for a studio.
We will across the street and we will coldly. We
were co leasing subleasing this place. All we had was
one main room and three offices as all we had.

(01:46:07):
And I said, I said, we have the studio, we
got the technology. And only out of the twenty people,
one person responded and they actually they couldn't even get
their technology together. We went ahead and broadcast our own show.
I think we were live three or four hours. We did.

(01:46:27):
We were only we were only my god, we were
only a year and a half old. We had about
four hundred thousand views that night.

Speaker 11 (01:46:36):
But the point that I.

Speaker 3 (01:46:36):
Raised was like, we let's not wait, let's stop watching
the white meeting, tell our own story. Then that December,
I reached out to the folks and I said, hey,
we all individually can't cover this. Warnock, Warnock, Osoft runoff
raise same thing. Let's get together. And it was only

(01:46:57):
like two people who responded about out and let's partnering.
And then even we couldn't pull that together. So we
just went ahead and just just just did ourselves. But
that's precisely the point I've been saying, Hey, we don't
need everybody doing news. But to your point, if we're
able to say, hey we can run this content here

(01:47:17):
running here, now what do you have that we can
run as well? Now you're mated to your point, you're
maximizing resources to maximize reach, that's right.

Speaker 17 (01:47:28):
And you know all I can do is control myself
at this point.

Speaker 33 (01:47:30):
So I think you and I should have a conversation after,
but this about how we can support you on the
digital distribution side as well, because it really just has
to start with us taking it one step at a time.
You know, I can't control Essence, I can't control Ebony,
I can't control you know what Revola is doing. But
we can we have a lot of power sitting right
here on this conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:47:47):
Oh yeah, well, there are some things that we are
doing on the AI side with how we take this
digital content into written form because people still re written form.

Speaker 4 (01:48:01):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:48:01):
And one of the things that we're also doing is
I've already signed the deal with the black owned company
LA completely revamping Blackstar Network dot Com, turning into a
news portal. I'm actually hiring two staff writers. I know
exactly what content I want every how many stories for
a week because part of the other issue is uh
and you know this here because that was I hate,

(01:48:22):
I really do hate aggregation because the problem is we're
rewriting somebody else's stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:48:27):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:48:28):
And then but and then a lot of times we
don't actually you know, we're not aware of well who
wrote the story and what their agenda is. Uh. So
the opportunity is there, So we'll definitely have that conversation
because at the end of the day, again, if there's
something that you doing that I'm not doing, and I'm
doing that you're not doing, it doesn't hurt us to
actually work together. And again, I want everybody to eat

(01:48:51):
that's and we and we can all do that. So
that's what's creating fort looking forward to it, all right,
Margan appreciate it. Well, first of all, again you said
the conference, was.

Speaker 33 (01:49:00):
It you said at the Pemty Fest. Yes, May thirty, first,
June first, Atlanta. Get your tickets now, Blavityfest dot com.

Speaker 11 (01:49:07):
Is there a more day weekend?

Speaker 3 (01:49:08):
Is that the same time?

Speaker 17 (01:49:09):
It's the weekend after?

Speaker 11 (01:49:10):
Oh it's a weekend after, got it? Okay? All right?

Speaker 3 (01:49:12):
So May thirty, first June first, gots right? Okay, all right, welgo,
appreciate it.

Speaker 17 (01:49:18):
Thanks a lot, Thanks everyone.

Speaker 11 (01:49:20):
All right, I'm going to go to break. When we
come back.

Speaker 3 (01:49:23):
A couple more things we want to talk about that
you need to be aware of. You're watching rolland Mark
Unfiltered right here on the black Star Network.

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This week on the other side of change, the attacked
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our guest Aliah Logan, who will join us, talking about
what are the implications for the lack of investment in
education both locally and internationally and what.

Speaker 17 (01:49:51):
This will mean for future generations.

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Speaker 3 (01:50:28):
All right, y'all, Teresa Lundy, Let's go from our parents
with Teresa. We appreciate you joining us on today's show.
Thank you so very much. Folks. Let's talk talk South
Sudanese a bold new immigration crackdown from the races of
Trump administration. It's already starting concern among African countries. Over
the weekend, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, you know the

(01:50:49):
one whose parents from Cuba because he's from here, announced
that all US visas hell by South Sudanese passport holders
are now revoked ective immediately. In a statement on the
State department website, Rubio said it is time for the
transitional government of South Sudan to stop taking advantage of
the United States. Enforcing our nation's immigration laws is critically

(01:51:12):
important to the national security and public safety of the
United States.

Speaker 11 (01:51:15):
Every country must.

Speaker 3 (01:51:16):
Accept the return of its citizens in the timely manner
when another country, including the United States, seeks to remove them,
as South Sudan's transitional government has failed to fully respect
this principle. Effective immediately, the United States Department of the
State is taking action to revoke all visas held by
South Sudanese passport holders and prevent further issuance. To prevent

(01:51:37):
entry into the United States by South Sudanese passport holders
will be prepared to review these actions with South Sudan
is in full cooperation. That comes after a deportation to
speak between the United States and South Sudan. Washington says
the African nation refused to accept the return of one
individual and now an entire community is paying the price.
During the news conference, South Sudan's Foreign Minister of response

(01:52:00):
on it to this revocation by the United States.

Speaker 35 (01:52:04):
The Government of South Sudan has noted the United States
announcement on April fifth, twenty twenty.

Speaker 31 (01:52:10):
Five, regarding the immediate revocation.

Speaker 35 (01:52:14):
Of visas for South Sudanese passport holders. This decision was
made as a consequence of what was described as the
failure of South Sudan's transitional government to accept the return
of its repatriated citizens in a timely manner.

Speaker 31 (01:52:32):
We would like to clarify that.

Speaker 35 (01:52:34):
The Government of South Sudan has consistently maintained open communication
and cooperation with US authorities regarding immigration and deportation matters.
The government welcomes all its citizens, whether they are returning voluntarily.

Speaker 31 (01:52:52):
Or through deportation processes.

Speaker 35 (01:52:55):
It is imperative to highlight that South Sudan has consistently
demonstrated goodwill and cooperation with the United States on.

Speaker 31 (01:53:03):
Immigration and deportation issues.

Speaker 35 (01:53:06):
In this context, the South Sudanese Embassy in Washington, DC
has issued emergency travel documents for twenty one out of
twenty three individuals identified by US authorities, with some successfully
reportuated and admitted into South Sudan with that issue. Of
the two individuals confirmed as non South Sudanese nationals, one

(01:53:31):
is a Congolese citizen, namely Miss Makula Kintu, and the
other is as As Sudanese national. The government deeply regrets that,
despite this history of collaboration and partnership, South Sudan now
faces a broad revocation of visas based on an isolated

(01:53:52):
incident involving misrepresentation by individual.

Speaker 31 (01:53:56):
Who is not a South Sudanese national.

Speaker 35 (01:54:00):
South Sudan reaffirms this commitment to engaging constructively with the
United States to ensure the proper verification, accept and acceptance
of bona fide South Sudanese nationals consistent with international standards
and practices. South Sudan values is its strong partnership with
the United States and appreciates the significant contributions made by

(01:54:24):
the American government and people, as well as the South Sudanese.

Speaker 31 (01:54:29):
Community residing in the US.

Speaker 35 (01:54:32):
The government remains steadfast in its commitment to resolving this
matter through constructive dialogue and collaboration. The Republic of South
Sudan looks forward to working closely with US authorities to
address this issue promptly, fairly, and in a manner that
is mutually beneficial.

Speaker 3 (01:54:52):
Now Titchens are high Southshday and their vice president is
under house arrested after titches between militia and the government
arising as a un this warning impossible civil war in
South today and no new visas will be issued, no
existing ones and honored and know South suit of these
nationals will be allowed into the US until further noses.
This is the first countrywide visa band for the Trump administration.

(01:55:16):
Here's the real thing on the Congo here. The fact
of the matter is Trump folks. They just want to
see in anybody anywhere. You heard them say that was
a that was a Congolese resident. We've seen this with
other countries. Their whole attitude is, we don't give a
damn who we send to you.

Speaker 11 (01:55:31):
You just take them.

Speaker 4 (01:55:34):
Yes.

Speaker 24 (01:55:35):
And on top of that, Roland kind of going back
to the importance of your first segment, this was the
first time I've heard with this story. I've heard about
the sudan story all day, but this was the first
time anyone's actually talked about the person who's rejected actually
not being Sudanese. So that goes to the importance of
accuracy as it relates to these stories. Furthermore, they want

(01:55:56):
to make examples of this. And you know why, I'm
kind and I like a little bit out of it
right now because my mind is as I'm thinking of
the Duke basketball player Malook who's from who's Southern Sudanese,
and I'm wondering, like, are they going to make an
example out of him? You know, he's at Duke, and
that's where Stephen Miller went and he probably doesn't think
black people should go to Duke or something. But this

(01:56:17):
is when people need to rally together because it's another
example of Trump also starting with small nations and small
countries that people that he thinks that people aren't going
to give a damn about. And if you think that
it's only going to be South Sudan, it's going to
be other countries. So this is the time where people
need to rally around, have accuracy, respect other country sovereignty

(01:56:38):
and just like you're doing with you know, Al Salvador,
you know, not just shipping people wherever you feel like
you can ship them. People need to stand for their
sovereign borders. This administration has no patience and they just
want to make examples out of everybody. And I'm really
interesting to see what's going to happen at Duke if
they're going to try to make an example out of
him Roland. There are less than fifty visas that have
been issued to Suites Hea in the United States. Right,

(01:57:02):
this is who they want to target. It's not surprising.
We got to stand together, Kelly, real simple. This is
called African nations are shithole countries. That's what Donald Trump thinks,
and we're going to make an example out of you.
Shithold your your shithole country.

Speaker 11 (01:57:15):
That's all this is. They don't give it.

Speaker 3 (01:57:18):
They do, Donald Trump, Maga, Elon Musk, jd Vance, Marco Rubio.
They do not want black people in this country. They
will happily take white Africaners from South Africa. They do
not want black people from Africa, is right.

Speaker 4 (01:57:41):
You know you heard about the what was it, the
five million dollar gold card for people who can afford it,
that was basically advertised to white.

Speaker 7 (01:57:50):
European countries in Russia.

Speaker 4 (01:57:52):
You hear about it, and the dog whistles of exactly who.

Speaker 7 (01:57:57):
They're going to welcome here and exactly who they're not.

Speaker 4 (01:58:00):
You know, said dog whistle is becoming a little bit
louder and becoming a real whistle.

Speaker 7 (01:58:04):
Now then now, But you're absolutely right.

Speaker 17 (01:58:08):
It is sad.

Speaker 7 (01:58:10):
It is sad, and it's pathetic how this administration is just.

Speaker 4 (01:58:14):
Living in their racism out loud through these policies, through
their rhetoric, through their behaviors everything.

Speaker 19 (01:58:23):
But what I am more concerned about now is after
this administration, should.

Speaker 4 (01:58:31):
There be after to this administration, We have to think
about how these countries are going to treat us from
here on out, because it can't be a foreign policy
where they are treating us well president by president by president,
especially when our administration ideologies have been so mercurial from

(01:58:51):
presidency to presidency as of late.

Speaker 19 (01:58:54):
They like these other countries Sudan, the European Union and
the like, they're going.

Speaker 4 (01:59:00):
To have to basically reframe how they see the United
States from here on out because they can't afford to
govern their foreign policies based off of specifically who's in
office at the time.

Speaker 7 (01:59:14):
There has to be some type of uniformity on their end.
So what does that mean for us? If I were
in their shoes, we would be.

Speaker 4 (01:59:23):
Treated like a third world country until there was a history,
a new history of decent behavior, and right now we
don't have that, and we haven't had that for at
least a decade and a half as far as how
mercurial and flip flopping we have been as far as
foreign policy is concerned.

Speaker 7 (01:59:43):
So my concern isn't just about Sudan.

Speaker 4 (01:59:47):
While it is terrible, this is a now problem, but
what are the implications of this?

Speaker 7 (01:59:52):
It is how other countries are going to be viewing US.
Sudan has partnerships with other countries.

Speaker 4 (01:59:57):
You know what I'm saying, like, we're not the only
a country that has business with Sudan, who has diplomatic
relations with South Sudan. You know, So, how are those
countries looking at us? How are those countries going to
converse with us and be diplomatic with us? Are they
going to be diplomatic with us from here on out?

Speaker 7 (02:00:19):
And right now I'm.

Speaker 4 (02:00:20):
Looking at a pattern of hostility not just towards Black countries,
but frankly towards the world that isn't Russia.

Speaker 3 (02:00:28):
And that's very concerning, absolutely absolutely all right, Amagano, Kelly,
we appreciate both of you being on today's show. Thank
you so very much. Again, appreciate Teresa as well. Folks,
Tomorrow we're going to talk about a lawsuit against Saint
Augustine's University. Of course, we're going to be there on
Friday in Raleigh, North Carolina. And so the school having

(02:00:50):
more drama. Now you gotta spend more money on legal fees.
So it's like, what the hell is going on? We'll
tell you about that tomorrow. Don't forget the town hall
doors open at five pm. Martin Street Baptist Church. Know
they're not naming the church after me. Because we're coming.
That's the name of the church. So we're going to
be there in the fellowship hall. They're broadcasting live, so
we want everybody in Raleigh come on out. I'll be

(02:01:11):
signing competes in my book White Fear. If you are
a graduate, faculty student staff of Saint Augustin's, we want
to see you in the house.

Speaker 11 (02:01:21):
I know my Alfred Brothers are going to be there.

Speaker 3 (02:01:23):
They've been spreading the word as well, so we look
forward to again broadcasting from there on Friday. So also
tomorrow we're going to talk about remember we show you
the racist video of Marjorie Taylor Green's Eggs husband well
now at races is apologizing for verbally attacking a few
couple of Muslim women as they were praying, minding their

(02:01:44):
own business, and so we'll have you that for you
tomorrow as well. Lots to break down, folks, and so
we look forward to seeing it. Don't forget support the
work that we do. Join I bring the Funk Fan Club.
The goal is very simple. We want twenty thousand people
of course supporting us on average fifty bucks each which
is footballs is nineteen cents a month, thirteen cents a day.

(02:02:06):
So first of all, let me say this here, a
lot of y'all who have sent checks and money orders,
it takes a while for us to actually depositive checks
and money orders. Between between the last two mail runs,
we literally had almost nine hundred checks and money orders.

Speaker 11 (02:02:23):
Let me just share the holders for you.

Speaker 3 (02:02:25):
So I did go to the post office today, and
just so you'll understand a lot of people have been
supporting us. Yes, I had to bring the Duffel bag
in to get the mail, So please be patient. I
understand folks balance their check checkbooks, but when you send
a checking money order, it's a much lengthy process.

Speaker 11 (02:02:48):
It's not as just simple.

Speaker 3 (02:02:50):
That's just us sitting here because what happens is some
people have actually they made the checkout to Roland Martin,
they make it out to Blackstarter Network, they make it
out to Rolling Mark unfiltered. God, that's three separate accounts.
So we literally have to go through every single envelope,
open the envelope, look at the check, put what categories in.

(02:03:10):
We then have we then have to log every single
check because we put your name on our list on Friday.
We then have to sign the back of every check
and then go through. So it's a lot more process.
And so again this is all just so y'all understand.
This is so, this is all what came in today

(02:03:31):
when I went to the post office. So please, if
you send a check or a money order, I asked
you to be patient. We absolutely appreciate everybody who is
supporting our show, the people who don't believe in electronic
payments who are sending stuff. I appreciate all of that,
but just understand, yes, there's still more in here. There's

(02:03:54):
a process that we have to go through when it
comes to checks in money orders, and so please please
be patient. Yes, that's like literally that was what's all
in email today.

Speaker 11 (02:04:05):
So if you want to give you a cash.

Speaker 3 (02:04:06):
At please use a stripe QR code.

Speaker 11 (02:04:10):
This is it right here on the screen.

Speaker 3 (02:04:11):
If you're listening, go to Blackstar network dot com that
stripe QR code. If you want to use a credit card,
you can also use the striped QR code. As I said,
our target goal is to have twenty thousand people give
on average fifty bucks each a year. The goal is
to raise a million dollars annually from our fans. So

(02:04:32):
here's the thing, y'all. I don't charge a subscription fee.
I don't do Patreon, I don't do substack. There's like
perfect example, Midas Touched the Progressive Network. They've got you
know they've got. They do three hundred and fifty million
views on their YouTube channel. They make a lot of
money off their YouTube channel. They also have forty thousand

(02:04:55):
people pay eight dollars a month on their substack.

Speaker 11 (02:04:59):
Well doe to math all, that's ninety six dollars a year.

Speaker 3 (02:05:02):
I purposely did not want to charge a subscription for
our content because I wanted this widely available. So I
wanted people to be able to access our content on
our Facebook page, on our YouTube page, on our other pages.

Speaker 11 (02:05:19):
I want them to be able to access it. We
post clips on our social media and so that's why
we do that.

Speaker 3 (02:05:25):
And so I knew if we had done a subscription model,
people would not be able to see it. We would
not be doing two hundred million views a year, and
so that's why we do it. So we asked you
to support our Brina Funk Fan Club as a way
to donate to our cause in order for us to
be able to build this and growth. As I said,
this show started September fourth, two thousand and eighteen, with

(02:05:47):
just this one show. On September fourth, twenty twenty one,
we launched the Blackstar Network. In February twenty twenty two,
we start debuting our shows.

Speaker 11 (02:05:56):
We debut four shows. You know, three of those shows
have gone on away.

Speaker 3 (02:06:01):
Look, We've added new shows and so Doctor Greg car
his show is to with us, The Black Table, that's
the weekly show. Reverend Doctor Jackie Hood Martin Show of
the Balance Living that is a weekly show. We've just
launched the Other Side of Change with Bria Baker and
Jimmy Burley.

Speaker 11 (02:06:16):
That is a weekly show.

Speaker 3 (02:06:18):
I am working with some folks right now to launch
a business show. We are working on a health show.
We are also I had another call today. We're looking
at creating a black owned business marketplace for you to
be able to buy black owned products through our channel.

(02:06:39):
I've already signed a deal with a black owned web
developer for us to completely redeveloped Blackstar Network dot.

Speaker 11 (02:06:45):
Com to turn into a newsportal.

Speaker 3 (02:06:47):
I'm negotiating with two people to become writers to us
for us to write stories to appeal on the appear
on my show to other shows. We'll have that content
on Blackstar Network dot Com. And so we're looking to
be as robust as possible. When you look at our merchandise,
we've actually grown that as well. All of that pays
for all of this here, y'all, the numbers do not

(02:07:10):
lie all of this. When we talk about staff, we
talk about travel, we talk about listen, our release in
this place is up in twenty twenty six. This is
going to cost several thousand more dollars a year than
what we've been paying for the last four years. So
when you talk about our fiber optic lines, when you
talk about upgrading our equipment, I am right now as

(02:07:33):
we speak, about to go through about one hundred thousand
dollars refresh of our lighting system because we need to
do some lighting in some different places. We're looking at
put potentially adding additional robotic cameras. So all of this
stuff actually costs money, real money. And so you already
heard the conversation with Morgan de Bond. We don't get

(02:07:55):
the money from these ad agencies. I told you the
major ad agencies group in even they had a black
CEO zero dollars, pulses, zero dollars, densue, zero dollars Horizon
zero dollars.

Speaker 11 (02:08:11):
I can name all of these agencies and we've gotten
zero dollars.

Speaker 3 (02:08:16):
We've gotten support from certain brands Coca Cola, General Motors.
We did what two three years ago, Procter and Gamble
haven't heard from them since, So listen. Our fan base
is critically important to our success. So again, cash app
use a Kira Cole from Strike you see it right here,

(02:08:36):
and of course with the Blackstore Network dot com. Please,
if you're gonna send me checking money order, please make
it out to Roland Martin unfiltered. It makes it so
much easier to process your checks and money orders.

Speaker 11 (02:08:47):
Please do that, and so make.

Speaker 3 (02:08:50):
It payable to peel box five seven one nine six
Washington d C two zero zero three seven DASS zero
one ninety six PayPal. You can go to our use
our PayPal dot M E four slash our Martin unfiltered.
Please when you see that, don't freak out because the
parent company of.

Speaker 11 (02:09:07):
Us a New Vision Media. So you see New Vision
Media on there.

Speaker 3 (02:09:11):
That is us. I've gotten, I've gotten your phone calls
and emails. Is this rolling mark? Yes it is, but
it's New Vision Media, So don't freak out PayPal, US
PayPal dot m E four slash are Martin Unfiltered, venmo
is Venmo dot com four slash r M unfiltered, zell
Is rolling at Rolling s Martin dot com, Rolling that,
Rolling Martin unfilter dot com. When you buy our merchandise,

(02:09:33):
our hoodies, our crew next our t shirts, wal Art mugs,
those are dollars that we also split between the company
as well as US as well. Uh and so please
and also if you if you got a picture of
you your hat or your shirt, post it on social
or email it to me at Rolling that, Rolling this
Martin dot com, Rolling that, Rolling Martin unfiltered dot com

(02:09:53):
and will show it on the air. Get our two
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voted for the black Woman. Go to Roland Martin dot creator,
Dasspreen dot com. The cure code is there as well.

Speaker 11 (02:10:07):
Go to blackstud Network dot com.

Speaker 3 (02:10:09):
When you get my book White Fear of the Browning
of Americas making White Folks lose their minds, proceeds from
that book go right into the show as well. And
so you can get from these online stores, bookstores. You
saw we took Target off because we're not supporting We
are not supporting Target until they accept the demands laid

(02:10:29):
out on targetfast dot org. If you want the audio version,
I read an audible download it from.

Speaker 11 (02:10:34):
There as well.

Speaker 3 (02:10:36):
Also download the blackstud Network app Apple Phone, Android phone,
Apple TV, Android TV, Roku, Amazon fireTV, Xbox one, Samsung
Smart TV. All of y'all folks who are on YouTube,
hit that like button, y'all, because that helped the algorithm
to share our videos. And lastly, download the blackstud Network app.
Now here's the piece we want you watching.

Speaker 11 (02:10:57):
On the show on YouTube.

Speaker 3 (02:10:58):
Because we generate more money on YouTube, we don't generate
money from the app. We have the app as our
way of being able to have a platform, and if
anybody says that our stuff cannot run.

Speaker 11 (02:11:09):
We will always have our own channel.

Speaker 3 (02:11:11):
That's why we have our app. The app costs y'all.
The app costs me one hundred and fifty thousand dollars
a year. Why don't we do it that way? It's
because we want to be independent. So if YouTube or
Facebook or anybody says, nah, we ain't running it, We're
like cool, We're still gonna run it. So download Black
studt Network app, Andrew Apple Phone, Android phone, Apple TV,

(02:11:32):
Android TV, Real Cool, Amazon Fire TV, Xbox one, Samsung
Smart Tv, and of course download fan Base, Get fan Based,
get the app. We're trying to build it to another
million followers. Eleven pointy four million dollars already been raised.

Speaker 11 (02:11:47):
The goal is seventeen million.

Speaker 3 (02:11:48):
Go to start engine dot com forward slash fan Base.
Y'all that set.

Speaker 11 (02:11:52):
I will see anybody have a birthday?

Speaker 3 (02:11:54):
Anybody had nah, ain't nobody the birthday, anybody in my
family birthday, my daddy birthday later month.

Speaker 11 (02:12:00):
I'm trying to what you want? What do you want?
What it's one of y'all birthdays?

Speaker 34 (02:12:05):
Something?

Speaker 3 (02:12:08):
Don't nobody care about youall? Delta Versary. I got two
Howard Universe three, tell about our Delta Versary. Come up,
do y'all see what this is? This is the only
I got two. I got two deltas and a signal
in the control room.

Speaker 11 (02:12:28):
It does not matter. They don't get shout outs.

Speaker 3 (02:12:31):
The only the only versary that's gonna get a shout
out is on April twenty seventh, when I celebrate my
thirty sixth year in the ALPHAA Alpha Attorney Incorporated. So
the rest of y'all. Uh, first of all, don't be
saying damn because that's how you get paid.

Speaker 11 (02:12:49):
So don't be telling me. Don't just do that.

Speaker 3 (02:12:51):
Kevin Hart damn okay, because you don't be saying damn
when that check come in. Uh huh see see, uh huh,
that was done.

Speaker 11 (02:12:58):
I want to hear it.

Speaker 3 (02:12:59):
I don't want to hear I don't okay. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
I send y'all ass home for good. Y'all gonna be
saying damn. Yeah, I thought so.

Speaker 11 (02:13:07):
Now now they're like, oh no, that wouldn't He wasn't me.

Speaker 3 (02:13:09):
Ah, y'all, that's it. I'm gonna see y'all tomorrow, alrighty Also,
we're gonna have for you Bishop William Barber, he spoke
Saritay at the Indivisible March. We're gonna play for you
his comments from that march as well.

Speaker 11 (02:13:22):
So it's a lot of a.

Speaker 3 (02:13:24):
Lot I had to get to y'all. This could have
been an easily three four hour show, but.

Speaker 11 (02:13:28):
We gotta go home.

Speaker 3 (02:13:29):
I see y'all tomorrow right here on Black On, Unfiltered, Unapologetic.
Y'all know how we do it.

Speaker 11 (02:13:36):
Black Star Network huh, Black Start Network.

Speaker 7 (02:13:43):
A real revolution there right now. Thank you for in
the voice of black apparances.

Speaker 3 (02:13:47):
Almoment we have.

Speaker 7 (02:13:49):
Now we have to keep this going.

Speaker 31 (02:13:51):
The video looks phenomenal.

Speaker 8 (02:13:53):
Between Black Star Network and black owned media and something
like seeing.

Speaker 3 (02:13:58):
N you can't be black media campy scape, It's time
to be smarting your eyeballs hot.

Speaker 10 (02:14:05):
It did

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