Trump/China tariff war, Rep. Joe Neguse rips GOP budget chair, IRS chief out, St. Louis election

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He's announced today that well he's gonna pause in for
nine days. That's probably because the county was tanking.

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We're gonna show you the reaction now, how Maga's trying
to spin it out how this was a brilliant move
when in fact it was if plus will be joined
by economist Morgan Harper to break it down as well.

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Y'all, it is really crazy what happened.

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Speaker 13 (04:58):
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Speaker 6 (05:15):
Folks. I want to put this as simply as I can.

Speaker 10 (05:19):
Donald Trump is an idiot, flat out He's an idiot.
All of these folks, all these maga folks, these Republicans who.

Speaker 6 (05:26):
Claim that he is so smart and was so brilliant,
he's not. Uh, this global trade war that he has instigated,
where he somehow convinced these idiots seventy sim a million
who voted for him that.

Speaker 10 (05:40):
The people who uh that the people who were going to.

Speaker 6 (05:44):
Benefit and make lots of money from tariffs or the
American taxpayer. Everybody who understands taffs knows that's the flat out.

Speaker 10 (05:52):
Long So what happened.

Speaker 6 (05:55):
Donald Trump comes in and announces We're going to have
massive tares and we're just gonna up them.

Speaker 10 (05:59):
Get everybody.

Speaker 6 (06:00):
Well, first of all, the idiot's is so dumb and
used the wrong formula in calculating.

Speaker 10 (06:04):
What it should be. They were actually.

Speaker 6 (06:06):
Slapping tears on countries where no people were inhabited.

Speaker 10 (06:10):
They were penguins.

Speaker 6 (06:11):
Again, these are not the most brilliant people in the
world he always talked about and he's a mean presidential Biden,
but he's showing how he is not that smart.

Speaker 10 (06:21):
So what happened? He announced the other day all.

Speaker 6 (06:24):
These tears, stock market crash, tumble four days, summote companies
announcing they're not opening new plans, they're cutting travel, the uncertainty,
massive increases. Small businesses are freaking out saying how I'm
gonna stay in business?

Speaker 10 (06:38):
And so what does he do today?

Speaker 6 (06:41):
This morning he posts a tweet saying by stock, then
announces the tars and then guess what ninety days all
but I'm going to increase one hundred twenty five percent
on China Channel's like bringing on big Boy. We're gonna
increase hours as well. Here's what's crazy, he said out
a tweet today explaining this schizophrenic, crazy, demented strategy. So

(07:08):
this is what he said, based on the fact that
more than seventy five countries, Okay, I don't even believe
them for a second, seventy five countries have called representatives
of the United States, including the Departments of Commerce, Treasury,
and USTR, that's trade resistive to negotiate a solution to
these subjects being discussed related to trade, trade barriers, TARSK,

(07:34):
cursive manipulation, and non monetary tarifs, and that these countries
have not had, my strong suggestion retaliated in any way,
shape or form against.

Speaker 10 (07:44):
The United States.

Speaker 6 (07:45):
I authorized a ninety day pause and a substantially lowered
reciprocal tariff during this period of ten percent, also effective immediately.

Speaker 10 (07:54):
Thank you for your attention to this matter. Okay, So
then they oh my god. So on Fox News.

Speaker 6 (08:02):
On Fox News, an anchor was talking to Charlie Gasparino,
financial financial analyst, and she tried to say that, hey,
couldn't this be that Trump is just smart and brilliant?

Speaker 15 (08:17):
Listen, well, I mean because of the mixed messaging and
how can you buy how can you doubt them? I mean,
let's be clear what happened. You know, who capitulated here
and why? And you know, I don't want to say
this because I'm a patriot, I'm an American, but it
is the White House who capitulated based on everything I

(08:40):
hear and all my sources. And the reason why is
because of the bond market and what happened last night.
You know, Besson knows this better than anybody. When you
have yields on the ten year rising to five percent,
stuff starts shutting down when you have the lending markets
screwed up. By the way, who was dumping the bonds somebody?

(09:00):
If it was China, right, it wasn't.

Speaker 16 (09:03):
It was Japan.

Speaker 15 (09:05):
While he was negotiating with Japan, Japan, according to my sources,
were running major money management firms that are involved in
the bond market. Without giving up names, Japan was dumping
bonds because they believe this was not a great place
to do business. That forced their hands, now, which you
can say I think legitimately. Here is Trump decided to

(09:26):
take the win. And here's why. There was overwhelmingly, you know,
deal potential here among the entire world except for maybe China, right,
everybody really wanted something. So he did take the win.
But make make make no mistake about it. Peter Navarro
was talking as of yesterday about not taking the win,
and now they did. And it's all because of a

(09:46):
bond market I want to point out.

Speaker 10 (09:52):
Okay, I confuse.

Speaker 6 (09:53):
He opens up by saying, the White House capitulated, they
bowed down, they packed, Andy goes, Oh, no, Trump took
the win. Which one is it capitulate? It means your loss.
Now he's saying you took the win. Now I've already
read for you that you tweet that Trump said out.
But this is this idiot talking to reporters explaining why

(10:19):
he pulled back on the tails.

Speaker 10 (10:21):
Watch this stupidity.

Speaker 17 (10:24):
Are you I decided to put a ninety day pause.

Speaker 18 (10:27):
Well, I thought that people were jumping a little bit
out of line.

Speaker 5 (10:31):
They were getting.

Speaker 19 (10:32):
Yippie, you know, they were getting a little bit yippy,
a little bit afraid, unlike these champions, because we have
a big job to do.

Speaker 6 (10:40):
No other president would have done what I did.

Speaker 18 (10:42):
No other president I know, the presidents, they wouldn't have
done it, and it had to be done. What was
happening to us on trade not only with you know,
if you look at it, not only with China, but
China is by far the biggest abuse or in history.

Speaker 9 (10:56):
The markets that persuaded you to reverse I was watching.

Speaker 13 (11:00):
The bond market.

Speaker 10 (11:01):
That bond market is very tricky. I was watching it.

Speaker 19 (11:03):
But if you look at it now, it's beautiful.

Speaker 18 (11:07):
The bond market right now is beautiful.

Speaker 19 (11:10):
But yeah, I saw last night where people were getting
a little queasy.

Speaker 18 (11:14):
I think everything had well.

Speaker 6 (11:18):
The big move wasn't what I did today.

Speaker 19 (11:19):
The big move was what I did on Liberation Day.
We had Liberation Day in America, who were liberated from
all of the horrible deals that were made, all of
the horrible trade deals that were made. And I was
helped by people just like this senator, congressman and friends, right,
and we.

Speaker 6 (11:37):
Had great help in the Senate.

Speaker 19 (11:39):
Of course, Republican senators have been amazing.

Speaker 18 (11:42):
And they stood tall and likewise in the house.

Speaker 10 (11:49):
Interesting, Okay, now let me help you all out here. Okay,
let me help you all out with this one. So
is tweet he said, Oh, they're negotiating.

Speaker 6 (12:04):
Then people got queasy, which is really the United States did.

Speaker 10 (12:09):
Last night.

Speaker 6 (12:10):
At a Republican dinner, he was like, Oh, the world
is kissing my ass.

Speaker 9 (12:16):
Listen in the history of our country.

Speaker 20 (12:22):
And don't let some of these politists go around say
you know, because I'm telling you, these countries are calling
us up kissing my ass. They are they are dying
to make it to you. Please, please make it to you.
I'll do anything. I'll do anything, sir. And then I'll
see some rebel Republican, you know, some guy that wants
to grandstand say I think that Congress should.

Speaker 16 (12:45):
Take over negotiations.

Speaker 6 (12:46):
Let me tell you.

Speaker 7 (12:47):
You don't negotiate like I negotiate.

Speaker 6 (12:53):
Okay, Morgan Harper, join us right now for Columbus, Ohio,
American economic his projects.

Speaker 10 (13:00):
Morgan, glad to have you here. So, Morgan, I'm now confused.

Speaker 6 (13:07):
If I had instituted tars and I was causing nations
to be unvended me, and if they were kinching my ass,
then I don't.

Speaker 10 (13:20):
Lift the tears. I keep kicking the ass.

Speaker 6 (13:24):
I keep beating them, berating them, I break them down.
That's the so called part of the deal. But he's
trying to spare it ass.

Speaker 10 (13:34):
Oh yeah, So which is it? Were there or not?

Speaker 6 (13:38):
Where folks were? What was Wall Street? Were his donors?
Were they queasy? Or was it the foreign countries? We
know what the answer is. He was getting this ass kicked,
and Gasparino said it, and Gasparino didn't want to own it.

Speaker 10 (13:54):
Oh, I don't want to say it.

Speaker 6 (13:56):
I'm a patriot that's Gasparino trying to kiss maga ass Is.
They don't want to admit that Donald Trump is an idiot.
He was destroying tweegis of dollars in value, and folks
say it, you're rushing us head long intil recession.

Speaker 10 (14:13):
That is why he backed off.

Speaker 21 (14:18):
Yeah, I mean, there's definitely a capitulation here. And I
think another really important point to make is that none
of us really know exactly what is going on, which
is a very very risky position for United States government
to be in.

Speaker 22 (14:33):
And that's why, you.

Speaker 21 (14:34):
Know, you're seeing things like you were talking about moment,
the reaction in the bond market. People don't trust the
United States government right now, so that isn't this is
a non environment that.

Speaker 22 (14:42):
They want to invest in. And we don't know what
deals he's talking about.

Speaker 9 (14:45):
We don't know the.

Speaker 21 (14:46):
Proposed terms of any of them, if they do exist.
It really is the White House freestyling.

Speaker 22 (14:52):
With the US economy that is very intertwined with the
global economy.

Speaker 21 (14:56):
And so, you know, I think it's it's interesting that
they've said they're going.

Speaker 22 (15:01):
To do this ninety day pause.

Speaker 7 (15:03):
I agree with you.

Speaker 22 (15:04):
I think it was to try to calm.

Speaker 21 (15:05):
The market down and where we go from here. But
the reality is it's just a ninety day pause, so
it's not bringing any more certainty to the market. I
don't think this is going to put investors completely at ease.
I don't think this is going to make and I'm
really glad.

Speaker 22 (15:19):
You mentioned the risk for small businesses.

Speaker 21 (15:21):
I don't think this is going to make small businesses
feel any more comfortable that they're going to be able
to build or invest or make any sort of growth
moves with their companies. How could they. We have no
idea what's coming. And the reality remains.

Speaker 22 (15:36):
That though he paused, a lot of the tariffs that
increase on the tariffs in China.

Speaker 21 (15:42):
Will continue to impact a lot of different types of
US businesses that rely on imports. There isn't really I mean,
I would be hard pressed and I'd be curious if
anybody else has an example of a company right now
that is making something in.

Speaker 22 (15:56):
The United States that is entirely.

Speaker 21 (15:59):
Using products and tools that are also completely made in
the United States. I don't know that that product exists.
This is a very intertwined global economy. A lot of
different types of businesses rely on imports, and a lot
of those imports do come from China, and so even
with the remaining terrorist recipial terrorists that he's put in place,

(16:20):
that's creating a lot of risk and uncertainty for businesses
of all sizes. And when we're talking about the types
of businesses that can absorb that type of uncertainty and
potentially eat into their own profit margin and those that can't,
it's very clear that only the biggest of businesses will
be able to take in this type of uncertainty that

(16:43):
Trump is creating and not raise prices anything less than
those very very large companies are likely going to have
to pass these this uncertainty and price increases onto consumers.

Speaker 10 (16:57):
So there's a more to do this here.

Speaker 6 (16:58):
For for folks who don't understand when Gasparino and even
Trump mentioned the bond market, explain to people what the
bond market means and what it means when Japan is
getting rid of American bonds.

Speaker 21 (17:18):
Explain that, yeah, I mean the bond market is for
US Treasury is companies investing foreign countries. Company whoever is
investing in buying bonds investing in the United States that
they are considering the United States to be a safe
investment something that.

Speaker 22 (17:35):
They want to buy into.

Speaker 21 (17:36):
You know, as the returns for making those investments increase,
it's a suggestion that people do not think that it's
a very safe investment.

Speaker 12 (17:43):
They're going to want a lot of money in return.

Speaker 21 (17:46):
For making the decision to invest in the United States.
And so when you have countries or investors from Japan
that are taking removing their investments in US bonds, it's saying, hey,
we don't trust what's going on here. We don't think
this is a safe environment that's going to be a
guaranteed money maker for us.

Speaker 22 (18:02):
We're out.

Speaker 21 (18:03):
And that is a show of a loss of confidence
for lots of confidence in I should say, the US
government and the economic policy making that's happening in the
business environment overall. So that is not necessarily where we're
used to being, but it makes sense because we have
policy making that is really happening in secret. And again,

(18:26):
like I was saying before, we don't have insight if
we as Americans individuals.

Speaker 22 (18:31):
We don't have insight into what's going on.

Speaker 21 (18:33):
It appears that also the head of our United States
Trade Representative, he was on the hill today in a
hearing about the tariff policy right before this announcement came out,
and it was clear that he too, didn't seem to
have a clear sense that this was coming. So if
the people who are in charge of making economic policy
aren't in the loop, if the American people aren't in

(18:54):
the loop, if Congress isn't in the loop, and it's
just the White House and Donald Trump, that is policy
based on how they're feeling day to day than any
foreign investor government. Those of us living here in the
United States as business owners, as consumers certainly have no
reason to feel comfortable either. And there continues to be

(19:16):
a tremendous amount of risk that's being created for all
of us as long as you know, he continues to approach.

Speaker 6 (19:22):
Policy making like this, to your point in a control room,
let me know if y'all have that clip ready.

Speaker 10 (19:30):
The US Trade Represilim.

Speaker 6 (19:31):
There was on Capitol Hill testifying and Congressman Stephen Horser
was giving him the business and the.

Speaker 10 (19:37):
Treasure Secretary of Scott.

Speaker 6 (19:38):
Dessett was supposed to be there, but he canceled because
what was happening. I mean, the markets were just absolutely
going crazy. And what you're finding is I saw some
reporting a couple of days ago that beset was initially
on the outside. It was Trump and Peter navar Row
and others. And it's up illogical that you could, you

(20:02):
could be an occupant of the Oval Office and you're
talking about instituting a massive global trading war, and your
US Trade representative is not dialed in, your Treasury secretary
is not dialed in. You're I mean, and and you're
you're talking to Elon Musk and p Navarro and then
those two idiots are fighting at each other on Twitter

(20:23):
and on Fox News.

Speaker 10 (20:24):
I mean, looks like the Keystone cops.

Speaker 6 (20:26):
Here's Congress and Stephen Horseman on Capitol Hill, just given
the business to the US Trade rep Is this market manipulation?

Speaker 23 (20:36):
No?

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Why not?

Speaker 24 (20:38):
If it was a plan, if it was always the plan.
How is this not market manipulation?

Speaker 6 (20:44):
It's not market manipulation, sir, Well.

Speaker 25 (20:46):
Then what is it?

Speaker 24 (20:46):
Because it sure is not a strategy.

Speaker 6 (20:48):
We're trying to reset the global trade system. Your heads off, short,
what has that done?

Speaker 2 (20:54):
How have you done?

Speaker 6 (20:55):
How have you.

Speaker 25 (20:55):
Achieved any of that?

Speaker 24 (20:57):
But to enact enormous harm on the American people, which
was our concern from the very beginning. Tariffs are a tool.
It can be used in the appropriate way to protect
US jobs and small businesses. But that's not what this does.

(21:17):
So if it's not market manipulation, what is it. Who's benefiting?
What billionaire just got richer? And all the while, there
are not even any Republicans left in this hearing. They
all left because they don't even want to defend this.
But meanwhile, the Speaker is rushing to the floor to
pass a budget reconciliation to screw America by passing the

(21:41):
biggest tax cut in history on the backs of the
American people.

Speaker 6 (21:47):
WTF who's in charge?

Speaker 24 (21:53):
Because it sure doesn't look like it's the trade representative.
You just got the rug pulled out from under you.

Speaker 6 (22:02):
You know, Morgan, I've had a lot of people hit
me today saying that what he said market manipulation. You've
got rich folks who are who hoop in being able
to buy stocks at cheap prices, and this is.

Speaker 10 (22:17):
Hurting every worker.

Speaker 6 (22:19):
Things along those lines, You've got companies announcing that they're
not moving forward with projects. You've got companies, the bank
CEO said a number of people were not moving forward
with mergers and acquisitions, and that there is just this
massive amount of lack of clarity about what's going on,
and Trump's is walking around like, oh my god, it's great,

(22:41):
it's beautiful. He was caught on an open mic just saying,
look at how beautifully is the market went up twenty
five hundred and three thousand points. That's got to be
a record. I mean, this idiot is talking about it's
got to be a record, dude.

Speaker 9 (22:53):
You calls the crash, you calls the drop.

Speaker 21 (22:58):
Yeah, And it really does seem like there were certain
players that were prepared to take advantage of this moment.
So I think market manipulation is an accurate issue for
Horseford to be bringing up like we saw in that clip,
because yeah, I mean, if it's certain large because let's
be real, and I think this is another.

Speaker 22 (23:15):
Important point Rolle, is who is.

Speaker 21 (23:17):
Spending their days trading on the stock market. If you
have a nine to five job like I have, like you,
like most of the people in this country, if they're lucky,
have that or else, you're running around to two different
jobs throughout the day. You don't have time to be
sitting there monitoring what's happening in the stock market and
making individual trades. So most of us, if we are

(23:38):
involved in the half of the country that's involved in
the stock market. We are passive players in that market,
you know, like we have our four one K, we're
invested in these index funds, and then we see how
it all rolls out. The people that are in the
position to trade with this type of speed are large
institutional investors in the stock market. And these are the

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types of entities that are run by people that are
likely to be friends with Donald Trump. So if there
was market manipulation to be had, those are the types
of people that are going to be positioned to.

Speaker 7 (24:12):
Take advantage of it.

Speaker 22 (24:13):
Unlikely that it's going.

Speaker 21 (24:14):
To be your friend down the street that likes to
trade occasionally in an individual stop.

Speaker 22 (24:19):
Let's be real about that.

Speaker 6 (24:22):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah, people who are day traders, folks
who are doing that. You're absolutely right, and you know,
these things are happening before our very eyes. The net
result to the average, regular, ordinary working day person is
that even though with this ninety day extinction, what it

(24:45):
still is doing more than is causing massive just unsteadiedness.
And so even though you wait ninety days, it's still
so we don't know what's going to happen, and so
that's the problem. What business likes certainty, what the average
worker likes is certainly. You want to be certain you

(25:05):
have a job, you're getting a paycheck, you want to
be certain prices are going to be stable.

Speaker 10 (25:12):
But when you have up down, up down, up down,
up down, it's schizophrenic.

Speaker 6 (25:20):
And when it's schizophrenic, what.

Speaker 16 (25:23):
Do people do.

Speaker 6 (25:25):
They sit back and say, I ain't spending nothing, I'm
not doing nothing. I'm not hiring people, I'm not making acquisitions.
I'm not building a new building, I'm not building a
new plant. I'm going to acquire a new company. I
need to sit back and wait to see what the
hell is going on.

Speaker 21 (25:43):
Exactly right, And then that's the real risk here.

Speaker 22 (25:46):
And you know another thing I would point out is
it didn't have to be like this.

Speaker 7 (25:50):
Like we heard from Rep.

Speaker 21 (25:50):
Porsford, he's acknowledging there's a role for tariffs to play
that in a version of this that could support workers,
that would be market active of small business interests, that
would be targeted, that would be strategic, that would be methodical,
that would be easy for all of us to understand,
for the market to understand. That would create more certainty
about what's going on. This administration has decided to do

(26:13):
the opposite. They are risking and economic recession and the
level of chaos is only going And.

Speaker 22 (26:20):
I will say this, I said it before and I'm
going to say it again.

Speaker 21 (26:22):
It will only serve to benefit the richest of the
rich and the largest companies. I mean, we actually saw
now that Albertson's, for example, has come out and said, oh,
we won't be paying any higher prices. So that's a
large grocery training They are able to tell their suppliers,
oh no, we're not absorbing any of this. You guys
just have to give us whatever price we want because

(26:43):
they're called, you know what's.

Speaker 22 (26:44):
Known as a power buyer, and they can kind.

Speaker 21 (26:46):
Of set those terms. Walmart kind of similar. You know
who can't do that. The independent grocer in your neighborhood
that is just trying to get by with, as we've
talked about, very very thin profit margins and has no
ability to flex beyond what they're currently paying for the
goods that they're trying to sell in their store.

Speaker 22 (27:04):
They will not be able to stay in business. That
is a big, big risk of this.

Speaker 21 (27:09):
Kind of uncertainty that's going to hit independent businesses and
us as consumers more than anybody.

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Indeed, indeed, Morgan Harper American Economic Liberties Project, well still
appreciate it.

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Good to see you. Thanks for having me.

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You can always count an idiot at Fox News to
try to explain about anything Donald Trump does. Listen to
this stupid conversation this morning on Fox and Friends.

Speaker 34 (33:58):
There's an item in the New York Post that we
all have in front of us. It's an exclusive story,
and it talks about how with these one hundred and
four percent tariffs and.

Speaker 25 (34:06):
Went into effect.

Speaker 34 (34:07):
You know, we think that China is going to have to.

Speaker 6 (34:10):
Pay for it.

Speaker 25 (34:11):
But it tells a story.

Speaker 34 (34:12):
Of a special needs toy importer and when the tariffs
went into effect at midnight, his tariff he's been paying
a tariff because he gets stuff from China twenty six
thousand dollars a year. His tariff bill went from twenty
six thousand dollars at midnight to three hundred and forty

(34:32):
six thousand dollars. And that's money he's got to come
going to have to come out of his pocket. It
sounds like he's going to have to go ahead and
close down part of his business. He tried to make
the toys in the United States, but the tariff on
that his most popular item went from zero to seventeen
dollars at midnight. And what he told the New York

(34:53):
Post is people don't understand the tariff situation. They think
just foreign countries are paying for the tariffs. That's not true.
Half of the tariffs are being paid for by US
based companies.

Speaker 6 (35:03):
So when you look.

Speaker 34 (35:04):
At those big numbers and they look good, just remember that,
according to this guy, half of the small businesses and
half of the tariffs are being paid by Americans.

Speaker 6 (35:14):
I'm sorry that they actually say that. This guy said
that tarrorfs are being paid by Americans. But I thought
dumb as Donald Trump told us nobody here was gonna
pay for it. These people are nuts. Lars B. Jones
is sitting there saying, whoa you know, my, you know,

(35:35):
I think the elites, the elites have had it so well,
you know what, Trump, we just have to just just
let things just happen and calm down, and it's gonna
work out for the American worker. The hell are you
talking about? It's insane. It's absolutely insane. My panel, Andrew Clark,

(35:56):
managing partner District Legal Group joining us from DC. Georg
Chain me founder Joy Strategies out of DC. Michael M.
Hotel hosts African History Network show out of Detroit. I'm
glad they have all three of you here. I sit here,
Andrew and these people they talk and stupid stuff comes out.
They lie, they're not being honest. Every now and then

(36:19):
they occasionally will actually speak the truth. You have Steve Doocey,
who's sitting there. I mean again, truly one of the
dumbest people. I mean, you know, it's something when you're
Steve Doocey and you're one of the dumbest people on
TV and you end up looking like a Rhodes scholar.
When Sean Hannity's fiance Ainsley Earnhardt and at idiot Brian

(36:42):
killed me their sitting right next to you, I mean,
that is an incredible feat by itself. But they sit
here and they go through this stuff and they lie,
and literally the people who are watching them like, well,
you know, they say thing, it's gonna be okay, So
they're gonna be okay. They are all liars.

Speaker 25 (37:00):
Yeah, I mean, you know.

Speaker 8 (37:01):
The crazy thing about these tariffs, and something that I
can't understand is they keep trying to talk about their
bringing back these manufacturing jobs. What manufacturing jobs are they
bringing back over in China? They're making five dollars and
thirty one cents an hour in these factories. How can

(37:24):
we compete with that, even with one hundred percent teriff
one hundred and twenty five percent terraff, how can we
compete with five dollars and thirty one cents on a
teriff so on a per hour.

Speaker 25 (37:37):
So I just don't understand.

Speaker 8 (37:38):
What the logic is behind it, because the only people
that are clearly going to suffer are the American people
when we go into the grocery stores, when we have
our small business closes closing, and the only thing that
we can do is go to these big box retailers
who are going to be able to set whatever price
they want for things right because they're not going to

(38:00):
absorb the prices. They're not going to take food out
of their children's mouth. They're going to take food out
of our children's mouth, out of our hands and close
down all of these small businesses that are competing with them.

Speaker 6 (38:12):
Roland, what's amazing, It's amazing to me, Joy is that
he was lying when he was running. He was straight lying,
and these idiots actually failed for Donald Trump had to
go home and that go because you know, he wasn't

(38:32):
talking to Milaniy because she'dn't talk to him, So he
was probably talking to one of his one of his aids,
who said, could you actually believe these dumbasses believe the
lies that I sold them on? They failed for a
hook line and sinker.

Speaker 28 (38:48):
They have continuously fallen for it, hook line and sinker.
Donald Trump has been talking about tariffs and getting it
wrong for decades.

Speaker 7 (38:56):
For decades, the.

Speaker 28 (38:57):
Only people who didn't understand what were going to happen
tariffs were the people who voted for him. Everyone else understood,
including economists, understood that this was going to be a disaster,
not only for the world economy but for the American economy.
There are no surprises here. What I find amazing is

(39:18):
that he tends to spin the fact that companies have
been at his doors, not China, by the way, but others.
And look, everyone of course wants to make a deal,
but it's for someone who is an economic terrorist, right,
which is almost what he is, wreaking.

Speaker 7 (39:34):
Havoc on the entire world.

Speaker 28 (39:37):
Of course, people are willing to come to you and
wanting to negotiate, but he is in a desperate position.
He needs him to negotiate because it's his people who
are knocking on his door and saying, this is.

Speaker 6 (39:50):
Not what we thought.

Speaker 7 (39:51):
We voted for you are messing up.

Speaker 28 (39:53):
And by the way, when I say his people, I
don't mean the rank and file people who voted for him.
I'm the corporate oligarchs that funded his campaign and that
ultimately capitulated to him. Even they are saying, no, this
is unacceptable. This stock market is saying this is unacceptable
and telling him in real time.

Speaker 7 (40:12):
So he is panicked.

Speaker 28 (40:15):
He is afraid. He sounded panicked and afraid. He did
not sound strong. He sounded what he is understanding that
he's a bit off more than he can chew.

Speaker 7 (40:25):
That people are not.

Speaker 28 (40:27):
The countries that he wants to have coming to him
are not. That they are engaging in a war with him.
They have the backing of their own people to do so.
He doesn't have the backing of his people to do so.
So Donald Trump is the major loser here. But the
biggest loss is going to be felt by small business

(40:48):
owners and about American workers. And last thing before I
give it back to you, the people who are thinking
that this is going to result in jobs for the
American worker that they would want to have, It's so
sad those jobs are gone. And when they if they
were to somehow show back up here. They're going to

(41:08):
be done by AI machines, right, this is going to
be automated.

Speaker 6 (41:13):
This is the one that he like. This is one
that cracks me up. Bicale. This will cracks are the
most they're all calling and kissing my ass. No they're not,
and if they were, you would not have bent over.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
Well, why would a seventy eight year old man brag
about people kissing his ass. It's something wrong with this guy.
I'm serious, there's something wrong with this. This's the same
gay paid one hundred and thirty thousand dollars for Stormy
Dams to keep quiet about him having sex with her.
This is the same gay. But you know, number one,

(41:49):
it's a number of things on this, you know. And
I read the article today from the New York Times.
Sell off in US bonds and dollar raises questions about
safe haven status because overnight the overnight market, China and
Japan were dubbing US treasury bonds, which I looked at as.

Speaker 9 (42:03):
A safe haven.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
Today at the press conference, when you had Treasury Secretary
Bessett and also you had Caroline Leavitt.

Speaker 9 (42:18):
One thing that did not come up was.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
Factory jobs coming back and companies building factories here in
the US, because nothing that they said today would make
factory would make companies want to invest in in building
new factories because it takes about two and a half
years to four years to.

Speaker 9 (42:39):
Really build build a factory. Okay.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
And then the other thing is is what happens after
the ninety days? What happens after the ninety day pauls
on the on the teriffs. Now, if he's such a
good negotiator, why didn't he announce any deals that have
been struck so far within these seventy five countries.

Speaker 9 (43:01):
Okay, The whole thing is ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
What really set it off the day rolling is that
Goldman Sacks around one pm the day upgraded the probability
of a recession to sixty five percent.

Speaker 9 (43:15):
Okay, and Roy just has an article on this as
well as Business Insider.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
And then about an hour or so later after that,
Donald Trump comes out with this ninety day pause. But
yesterday when they were asked about it, after Economic advisor
Kevin Hesset, after he after it was kind of presented
that he said something like that we saw an uptick
in the market. The White House said, no, it's not

(43:41):
going to be a ninety day pause. But then the
next day here you have a ninety day pause. So
Donald Trump is scared. He saw the stock market continuing
the tank. He's getting pressure, increased pressure from Republican senators,
from some Republicans in the House, because they're getting massive
pressure from Republican voters.

Speaker 16 (44:00):
Right.

Speaker 9 (44:00):
And also Elon Musk yesterday called.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
Trade advisor Peter Navarro moron and dummer than the sack
of bricks. And there was Navarro who was the one
who came up with this funny math for the tariffs. Okay,
so all this is closing in on him, but this
is a catastrophe. But it didn't have to be this
way because four hundred economists back in September twenty twenty
four signed onto a letter stating that VP. Kamala Harris's

(44:28):
economic policy would be much better than Trump's, and Trump's
would tanky curl.

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so we all said, we tried to tell you, but
y'all didn't want to listen. So that's where we are,
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Hatred on the streets. A horrific scene a white nationalists
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Speaker 17 (49:36):
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Speaker 31 (49:41):
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Speaker 17 (49:43):
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real or symbolic, there has been but Carol Anderson at
every university calls white rage as a backlash.

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Speaker 33 (49:58):
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(52:57):
had a one point two trillion all our trade deficit
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Speaker 2 (53:08):
To fix that.

Speaker 36 (53:08):
So we're going to give him the space necessary to
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Speaker 6 (53:11):
And we'll see, folks, what that is really called is
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(53:33):
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(53:58):
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Speaker 2 (54:02):
How about this?

Speaker 37 (54:02):
How would you describe a one thousand point drop in
the stock market?

Speaker 9 (54:06):
How would you describe it?

Speaker 38 (54:07):
I would say the stock market rises and falls. It's
more sensitive to.

Speaker 6 (54:11):
Changes in all.

Speaker 38 (54:12):
Okay, it's more sensitive to Can I just complete my thought?

Speaker 6 (54:15):
You answered it?

Speaker 10 (54:15):
You said rises in falls.

Speaker 38 (54:16):
It's changes in policies and a tremendous shift. I think
you agree with the policies of the last administration and
where this president wants to take our.

Speaker 6 (54:27):
Is it a big deal or not?

Speaker 37 (54:28):
I don't I I mean to feel about which which one?
A thousand point drop in the stock market? How would
you describe that?

Speaker 38 (54:33):
I think it's I think it's I think it's going
to be a much bigger deal when the stock market,
over the long run improves along with this economy and
along with the worker wages.

Speaker 9 (54:43):
Not what you were saying last year.

Speaker 6 (54:45):
Now tell me what you were Tell me what I
said last last year.

Speaker 37 (54:48):
Here's a statement, yeah, press the House Budget Committee Chairman
Arrington on the drop in financial markets and the fiscal
decline of the Biden Harris administration's economy. When the stock
market dropped a thousand points several years ago, you rushed
to bemoan President Biden's actions and the economy that he

(55:10):
was presiding over.

Speaker 9 (55:11):
You condemned it.

Speaker 6 (55:13):
Now the stock market drops a thousand.

Speaker 37 (55:15):
Points every day for the last week, and you claim
it's the economy running well, do you understand why that
would be a tough argument.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
Yeah, but I can explain it to you.

Speaker 38 (55:24):
Yeah, I can explain it to you because you had
consistently bad fiscal and economic policies that resulted in persistently
bad economic environment for the American people, mainly forty year
high inflation. So this is year after year, quarter after quarter.

Speaker 6 (55:44):
Got it.

Speaker 9 (55:44):
And we're talking about the first.

Speaker 38 (55:46):
Two or three months of the of Trump's administration, where
we're transitioning from that failed agenda.

Speaker 9 (55:52):
I get it to one that's going to put us
in a place get a stronger.

Speaker 6 (55:55):
Doesn't want to give him some time, I get it.

Speaker 37 (55:57):
So thousand points drop in the stock market, bond markets collapsing,
recession on the horizon. At what point, let's say there's
a depression at that point, would I be able to
get your commitment that you'd say, I don't agree with
the president's policies.

Speaker 9 (56:11):
How far are you willing to go?

Speaker 37 (56:13):
It's honestly, it's an honest question because we're we are
likely to have a recession here again, if we're not
experiencing one already.

Speaker 6 (56:21):
What he just did Joy was exposed them for being hypocrites.
He's like, oh, you said this here, but now hid
really big a deal. It's okay, you've got it. Is
like Gene Piro on Fox News saying I don't care
about four oh one. K okay, excuse me, you make

(56:45):
it so much money. It's good like that. You got
that other full what's your name, Harris Faulkner. Oh, this
is like we were in war. Like when we were
in war, we have to band together and work together.
Ain't no damn war these folks will. I mean, the
level of ass kissing is unbelievable.

Speaker 28 (57:09):
Let me tell you, the only war happening right now
is the trade war that Donald Trump has created and
now is trying to solve. Right, always creating crises, putting,
creating fires, and then he.

Speaker 7 (57:21):
Attempts to put out but instead fans the flames.

Speaker 28 (57:24):
But you know earlier you called one of his sycophants
an aid and I thought aid is the wrong word.

Speaker 7 (57:30):
He doesn't have any aids. They don't provide him aid.

Speaker 28 (57:33):
They provide him you know, he's just you know, they're sickophants.
They provide him a yes man status anything he says,
and they know they better say it because if they
don't say yes, he cuts them off.

Speaker 7 (57:45):
At the past, he has been very quick.

Speaker 28 (57:48):
He is there's no tolerance for people who are whispering
in the zeer and saying, hey, you're doing it wrong.

Speaker 7 (57:53):
This isn't quite right.

Speaker 9 (57:54):
Even JD.

Speaker 28 (57:55):
Vance had to talk about it behind his back on
that signal channel, signaling that he did the president didn't
understand fully what he was doing.

Speaker 7 (58:05):
These folks are not at all in control.

Speaker 28 (58:08):
Who is in control is a man in Donald Trump,
who has failed many businesses because he believes and subscribes
to a chaos theory that many business owners do believe in.

Speaker 7 (58:24):
And they lose some, they win some. But when we're
talking about a nation, that is not how you govern.

Speaker 28 (58:30):
When we're talking about what is important as the United States,
which has international implications, that's not how you govern.

Speaker 7 (58:37):
That is a way to ruin a nation. And if
we're not careful.

Speaker 28 (58:40):
What other countries are going to realize is the United
States is no longer a place to do business. It's
no longer a place of democratic stability, economic stability, and
even security.

Speaker 6 (58:53):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 7 (58:54):
Once they discover that, then we are in a whole
world of trouble.

Speaker 6 (58:57):
Well, ball line is it is, it's all. It's all crazy.
It's crazy land. And what we have to understand, Michael
here is there's a Republican Party that is completely, absolutely, positively,
one hundred percent bent over and they will not say

(59:17):
a negative word against Donald Trump. They are scared to
death of him, They're scared to death of Maga. And uh,
this is only going this is only going to happen
if Democrats continue to apply maximum pressure. These people are
not going to say or do anything. It doesn't matter,
they're not going to do it.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
Well, you, the Republican Party as a whole has capitulated,
caved in.

Speaker 9 (59:48):
To Donald Trump.

Speaker 6 (59:50):
That is true.

Speaker 26 (59:51):
You do see.

Speaker 3 (59:54):
Some individuals who speak out. Just in the past couple
of days, you've seen some who would speak out because
they're getting so much pressure elected officials, they're getting so
much pressure from their base. Okay, but as a whole.
The party's not going to stand up to Trump their
college as a whole. Not only are they afraid of MAGA,

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they're also afraid of the fifteen hundred domestic terrorists that
Donald Trump gave a pardon to, and many of them
were in prison in US capital.

Speaker 9 (01:00:23):
Okay, they're afraid of them as well.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
So people do need to continue to put pressure on
Republicans who are their own elected officials. Like you have
a member of a House of the House of Representatives,
as a Republican you has sent it, you still need
to put.

Speaker 9 (01:00:41):
Pressure on them.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
And then also but the only functional party that you
have are the Democrats.

Speaker 9 (01:00:48):
Okay, that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
And this once again shows us how elections have consequences
because now Donald Trump is talking about putting tariffs on
pharmaceuticals as well.

Speaker 9 (01:01:00):
Okay, after they're trying to claw back the.

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
Pharmaceuticals where we got the concessions on from the Inflation
Reduction Act, now they want to put tariffs on pharmaceuticals.
And when you study these tariffs, and there have been
a number of articles written about this, they hurt low
income people the most. So these tariffs are going to
disproportionately hurt the African American community.

Speaker 9 (01:01:27):
So this is critical right here.

Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
This is another example how elections have consequences and how
politics impacts every aspect of our lives.

Speaker 6 (01:01:35):
Byb line is these folks don't care. They gonna do
whatever the hell they want to do. And what they
are doing, they're appealing to their rich donors. That's the
people who are in control. Look, I believe we one
hundred percent andrew that you got some folk here who
are seriously making off like a fat rat. That's who

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this man appeals to. He don't care. I keep telling
these dumb mac of people, he won't let you ass
walk through his hotel lobby. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:02:04):
What we're dealing with with this oligarchy, which is which
is you know, a minimal around people in control with
Donald Trump, is we're seeing these Republican politicians scared. And
I don't think that they're scared of Donald Trump. I
think that they're scared of their own voting base. Because

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remember back in November, if any of us could have
if I put money, if there was some kind of
MGM bet poll on the over under on that election race,
I don't think that any one of us would have
been able to guess the amount of the margin in
which Donald Trump won.

Speaker 25 (01:02:45):
And I think that a lot of the Republican.

Speaker 8 (01:02:50):
Elected officials right now are scared of their own base
because they don't know what they want. They're saying that,
you guys, you guys elected this man. This is who
you're choosing, This is who you want to run our country.
So now me, as an elected official, what do I do?
Because if I speak up, I'm getting voted out because

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my voting bates has told me that they like this
kind of nonsense, that they like this chaos, right, And
so now the Republican elected officials are running around saying, well,
you know, what positions should I be on? Should I
be on the Mitt Romney style of let's go up
against Donald Trump?

Speaker 25 (01:03:31):
Or should I be in more of the you.

Speaker 8 (01:03:33):
Know, capitulating limit let me sit back and see what happens,
or let me just you know, just kind of let
Donald Trump do what he does. I'll and I'll back
and more support him on it. And that's the confusion
and the Republican Party. We talk a lot about how
the Democratic Party is imploding, but the Republican Party is
imploding because they have no idea what their base ones.

Speaker 28 (01:03:58):
Can I add one thing to that, I have even
worse than I think. It's even worse than what you're describing.
You're right, but it's even worse. I think some of
them are afraid for their lives and their livelihood, not
just their political futures. I think they're worried about what
happens in their hometowns. Not everybody, but they're crazier neighbors, right,

(01:04:19):
the ones that they pretend they don't know are unstable, right,
the ones that are super intense, the ones that interact
with their families and their children. I think they're worried
about if they lose their seats, where would they go work.

Speaker 7 (01:04:31):
We're not going to hire them. Who on this call
is going to let them come to their firm or
or let the references, right, he go to the factories
exactly what propublican firms would bring them in because they
would be perceived as a trader.

Speaker 6 (01:04:46):
And that's how they operate. So that's how they operating.
And I'm telling you right now to everybody, listen, these
folks going to screw us left and right. I don't
care what it is. Be prepared for what is going
to happen. Don't trust them. All they gonna do is
just lie line, line, lie, lie. And that's just what
it boils down to. So I'm just telling you that's
that's the case, and so a is all on us.

(01:05:09):
I'm telling you right now is what it boils down to.
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Speaker 6 (01:05:54):
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Well and you will watching Martin on field.

Speaker 6 (01:06:17):
North Carolina State Supreme Court has stopped the ruling that
could have validated more than sixty five thousand votes, many
of them from people who did everything right. To ensure
their voices were heard. In November. The racing question is
for a seat on the state's highest court, between Democrat
Justice Allison Riggs and Republican challenger Jefferson Griffin. He's in
a Pills Court Judge Riggs won twice after both the

(01:06:39):
machine and a partial hand recount confirmed her narrow seven
hundred and thirty four vote lead, But Griffin he isn't
letting up. He claims that thousands of voters had incomplete
registrations or id issues, even though their ballots were already
counted and certified. Lower court sided with him last week,
the Pills Court ordering more than sixty thousand voters to
verify their identity or risk having their votes tossed out

(01:07:00):
in just that one race. Okay, let me roll that back, y'all,
let me roll that back. That one race. Was that
one race? Okay, I want y'all to These same people
voted in other races, but the Pills Court wants to
invalidate their votes in just this race. It's sort of

(01:07:22):
like all the people who said when Trump said all
it was rigged Republicans, like it was rigged. Holda, but
you were on the same ballot so it wasn't rigged
in your race, but it was rigged in his race. Okay,
how it is? Okay, gotcha, Alison Riggs. She dropped this
video right here.

Speaker 39 (01:07:37):
I'm Justice Alison Riggs. I'm the youngest woman ever to
serve on our state Supreme Court and the only justice
of child bearing age serving. Before becoming a judge, I
worked for fourteen years as a civil rights attorney, fighting
to protect North Carolinian's rights, including the right to vote.

(01:07:57):
I'm no stranger to tough fights or working hard to
protect our constitutional.

Speaker 7 (01:08:02):
Freedoms, and that's what I'm doing right now.

Speaker 39 (01:08:06):
North Carolina voters elected me to keep my seat in
twenty twenty four, a win that was confirmed by two
independent recounts, but now that's at risk with more than
sixty five thousand eligible voters facing their ballots being thrown out.
That includes deployed members of the military who are serving

(01:08:27):
our country.

Speaker 7 (01:08:29):
I've spent my career fighting for justice.

Speaker 39 (01:08:31):
And standing up for North Carolinians, and I won't back
down now. I won't be intimidated, and I won't give up.
Please join me learn more at rigsfir our courts dot com.
Together we will stand.

Speaker 6 (01:08:46):
Up for the rule of law. So these people voted
for governor, they voted in the presidential rays, they voted
in the attorney general rays. They just voted in the
Secretary of state rays, in the school superintendent race. They
voted all these state races. But somehow in this one

(01:09:08):
race it's a problem. This goes to Michael, Well, we
keep talking about our Republicans. They will cheat, they will cheat,
they will cheat, they don't care. And what you have here,
the Appeals Court in North Carolina is controlled by Republicans.
They control the Supreme Court as well. But if the
Supreme Court sides with this guy, I mean, you're talking

(01:09:30):
about throwing things into just legal chaos in North Carolina.

Speaker 9 (01:09:37):
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:09:38):
And you know the amazing thing about this Roland is
this election was from November fifth, twenty twenty four.

Speaker 9 (01:09:46):
This election was some six months ago, okay.

Speaker 23 (01:09:50):
And.

Speaker 3 (01:09:52):
This guy's still trying to contest the election results. Get
sixty five thousand votes thrown. Now there's been two recounts,
and now this is a this is a slim margin,
something like seven hundred and fifty six votes something like that.

Speaker 9 (01:10:06):
It's a slim margin.

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
And this just goes to show you how one every
vote counts, and how these positions on the courts are
so extremely important. And notice how silent all the black
people that used to tell us we don't need to vote,
we just need to do economic empowerment and do like

(01:10:29):
the Asians do things like this, And they told us.

Speaker 9 (01:10:32):
Rich people don't care about voting.

Speaker 3 (01:10:33):
Where you just said Elon Musk invest over twenty million
dollars to try to get his candidate on the Wisconsin
Supreme Court. So much for that theory. But yeah, this
is more nonsense from Republicans. And when you see voter
suppression like this trying to throw our sixty five thousand votes,
that shows you how valuable your vote is and how

(01:10:54):
important it is to vote strategically.

Speaker 6 (01:10:57):
Well, Andrew keep implorying people to understand why these state
races matter. They are all fundamental in the courts. They
matter if you have three branches of government. This is
something like to me in sports, where people go I
think the Hall of Fame voters are stupid where they
vote for offensive players defensive players, but they act like

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special teams doesn't exist, even though the game is three phases,
it's offense, defense and special teams. Well, guess what we
are legislative, judicial, and executive. And if people act like
only legislative and executive matters, they are missing the vote.
The judicial branch matters a huge, huge, federal and state.

Speaker 8 (01:11:41):
Yeah, and we see it even on our own Supreme Court,
and the talk about what's happening on the United States
Supreme Court on a larger level, right, And that is
indicative of why this North Carolina race was so important.

Speaker 25 (01:11:56):
Because the.

Speaker 8 (01:11:59):
Supreme Court of each jurisdiction has the final say and
whatever it is that's going on in that jurisdiction. Right,
they might be able to appeal it federally, but that
Supreme Court is the highest court of the land. And
they're even higher, right, They're even higher than any of
the other elected officials.

Speaker 25 (01:12:19):
The elected official can say something.

Speaker 8 (01:12:21):
And then the Supreme Court of that state can say, no,
I see you trying to say this.

Speaker 25 (01:12:26):
I see you trying to say X.

Speaker 8 (01:12:28):
But it's really why And sixty five thousand votes specifically
for this race Roland, when there are other there are
other races on the ballot that are oh, that's okay,
they were fine for those other races, but for this
specific race is just such a clear abuse of power,

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and it goes back to what is true, what is right,
and what are we really doing here as Americans when
we stay, when we don't stand up to things like this,
when we don't stand up to the powers that be
when they're making these decisions.

Speaker 25 (01:13:06):
We all need to go to the ballot. All of
our votes count.

Speaker 8 (01:13:12):
Every last person that's listening to your show that seeing
this online should be inspired by the North Carolina race
to say, look, I didn't even really think that. You know,
it's an all election year special election. I didn't even
think that my vote was gonna matter so much. But
clearly the amount of money that they're throwing behind these

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races that your vote matters.

Speaker 25 (01:13:35):
So please everyone go out and vote.

Speaker 6 (01:13:39):
They all count. And what we often see in these
judicial rations, people don't really focus on them. You see
Laura vote totals joy. Moving forward, we have to understand
that again. If the Supreme Court finally gets off their
ass in North Carolina and confirms it for Allison Riggs, listen,
it's gonna be tough. Anita Earls is a black woman.

(01:14:01):
They're coming after her. Democrats have a five to two
that is five to two of the court five Republicans
to Democrats. But in twenty twenty eight, three of those
Republican seats are up. Democrats go after those, they could
get the majority of Supreme Court. That matters when we
talk about political jered manding, we talk about racial jer
manderings to voter id all these different laws.

Speaker 28 (01:14:23):
Because of course we're going into another census period. So
I mean it is critically important that we have these
seats on the court, that we are paying attention to
all races. We don't have to make it complicated. If
it wasn't important, they wouldn't want it. It is important
they wanted We must want it. That is because all

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decisions are coming down to the court right now. We
have an unchecked executive, we have unchecked governors wanting to
challenge the bounds of the law, the spirit of the law,
and it is our court systems will hold the line,
if anything, because we can't count on the legislatures. We
can't count on Congress, as we just described in our

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last segment. They are feckless, they are afraid.

Speaker 10 (01:15:11):
So we need.

Speaker 28 (01:15:12):
Judges who have a little bit more buffer to be
able to make those decisions based on the law. And
we cannot have biased judges. They are trying to buy
the seats. You absolutely have to go out and vote,
and when they can't do it, then they try to
reverse the election at the end.

Speaker 10 (01:15:29):
So we know the game.

Speaker 7 (01:15:31):
We don't have to have explained to us again. We
see it. You have to vote in every election. You
have to vote in every election. There really is no
other excuse, folks.

Speaker 6 (01:15:43):
Speaking of elections, last night in Saint Louis, in coming
mayor Deshara Jones lost all the women the Kara Spencer
was voted in in a landslide Tuesday, winning sixty four
percent of the vote according to unofficial totals. Again, it
was not close at all. In the general election, Spencer
bested Jones and so the results, of course, came around

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nine pm, not long after. Spenser took the stage at
Union Sutton Grand Hall, thanking the crowded more than four
hundred people and Jones for her service and said that
the mayor had always been committed to the city. This
was Spencer's second time going up against Jones one on one.
She narrowly lost to her in the city's last contest
for mayor in twenty twenty one. When you look at
we had Mayor Jones on the show talking about this election,

(01:16:30):
and you, of course had you got significant white population
in Saint Louis, significant Black population in Saint Louis, and
so huge, huge numbers there, and so we'll be able
to go in and take a look at the numbers

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to see how black voters turned out. And so that's
one of the things that we'll see now this of course,
now the city also is also based upon what they
called approval voting that also takes place, and so we'll
be able to then look at the numbers to see
exactly how black turnout was. But there have been three

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black mayors in Saint Louis's history, three black mayors, and
now a single one of those black mayors was ever
elected to a second term. Never actually happened there. And
it comes down to power. It comes down to power.
Andrew I say all the time the reason Atlanta is

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what it is because you've had black mayors every single
year since nineteen seventy three. If you look at Chicago,
this is the first time ever Chicago's had back to
back black mayors. When you look at Houston, you had
Lee Brown, then you had Sevester Turner with two terms.
But when you look at cities where African Americans have

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been able to maintain control is when you're able to
control the mayor's office.

Speaker 8 (01:18:06):
And you know, controlling the mayor's office and any locality
is important because the mayor is the person who sets
the tone for the rest of the city. They're the
face of the city, right, think about that for a second.
Let me let let me pause for a second. Let
me let you think about that.

Speaker 16 (01:18:24):
The face of the city.

Speaker 8 (01:18:27):
So for them to say that Karen Spencer is going
to be a better face for the city says a
lot about and as a landslide, right, as a landslide,
says a lot about what the voters in Missouri who
have voted for Donald Trump in twenty twenty four, twenty twenty,

(01:18:47):
in twenty sixteen, what they're thinking, right, and what kind
of change that.

Speaker 25 (01:18:52):
They're looking for? A radical change.

Speaker 8 (01:18:55):
And that goes back to my point before about how
it seems as though the voting base for or the
Republicans and maybe even some of the Democrats now that
we've got to be concerned about, are looking at radical changes.
And this election is just an example of the type
of politics that we're seeing out there right.

Speaker 25 (01:19:15):
Now where new is shinier than what was.

Speaker 8 (01:19:19):
And we have to be concerned about the status quo,
which the status quo as we know as black folks, right,
the status quo is.

Speaker 25 (01:19:27):
Not always the best thing.

Speaker 8 (01:19:29):
But if it's working, why break it to try to
put it back together in a different way.

Speaker 6 (01:19:35):
Well, one of the things that again, when you start
breaking down numbers, these things are important. And when I
look at so the numbers hit so first of all,
turnout in this race. This is according to the Saint
Louis Business Journal. And pull the article up in a
second here, joy, they show that turnout twenty six percent
this year compared to twenty nine percent four years ago

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when Jones beat Spencer for the Mayor's office. Jones Spencer
wins nine out of fourteen Wards. The key here was turnout.
How How what am I always talking about? Turnout? Turnout? Turnout?
Look at this right here, It shows turnout in the
South City, largely white neighborhoods. Look at the gaps here, Okay,

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Ward two eighty six percent to Spencer fourteen percent for
Jones Ward four eighty two eighteen, Ward five eighty one nineteen.
Then when you go to North City Jones won. We
look at these margins Jones sixty nine, Spencer thirty one,
seventy one, nine sixty eight thirty two. But here's the

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other thing this tells you. Right here, Jones won her homeward,
the tenth, which covers her West Day neighborhood, with just
fifty one percent of the vote. In the Wards voting
for and again we're talking about black wards and white wars,
and the Wards voting for Jones turnout was only seventeen
to twenty four percent versus twenty to thirty three percent

(01:21:09):
for Spencer Wards. Again, if black folks don't turn out,
you ain't gonna win, period.

Speaker 28 (01:21:18):
I mean, look, if you don't vote, your candidates aren't
gonna win.

Speaker 7 (01:21:22):
There's just no other way.

Speaker 28 (01:21:25):
And look, if you like this other person, you want
them to win, fine, But if you want someone else,
you have to actually show up and vote for them.
But I also think it's incumbent upon if you're running.
While you're running, you have to do what your voters want,
even if you know.

Speaker 7 (01:21:42):
Even if that's not always, you have to at least
give them what they want.

Speaker 28 (01:21:46):
Say what you will about Donald Trump, he tricks people,
He lies to them, but he does give them a
feeling at some point during the election season of what
they want. We know it's not ultimately what they want,
but there's a populism there that we can't ignore. And
so if you're running, I don't know what the contours

(01:22:07):
of this race were, but if you're running, you do
have to meet your voters where they are and you
have to.

Speaker 7 (01:22:12):
Do everything you can to turn out your own voters.

Speaker 28 (01:22:17):
You know, it's hard to blame the customer for not
buying the product. So we have to vote, but we
also need our politicians to make sure we're doing the
thing that we need to do in our communities to
get people to the polls, but to also give them
a reason to go vote.

Speaker 6 (01:22:34):
Well, again, I'm trying to emphasize, Michael, Folks understand power,
how to have power, and power is derived from those
who turn out. If you don't turn out, you're not
going to be able to hold power.

Speaker 3 (01:22:48):
Yeah, not only that, you have to assess what's been
accomplished the past term, the past two years, the past
four years, of what has been accomplished, which policies have
been put in place that you your community have benefited from,
but also policies that are in jeopardy because each election
cycle there are policies that our communities benefit from that

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are on the ballot that are being wiped out. When
we look at the results of the presidential election, a
lot of people didn't think that Donald Trump would revoke
executive are eleven two four six, which was affirmative.

Speaker 9 (01:23:23):
Action going back to nineteen sixty five.

Speaker 3 (01:23:25):
So when you and when you look at this local
election here, twenty six percent voter turnout that that's ridiculous,
you know, so that I don't know what type I
know you had to shar Jones here on the show.
I don't know what type of massive outreach there was

(01:23:47):
to voters, especially to the African American community. But a
lot of our people don't really understand the consequences of
elections and really unders stand how who's in office impacts
every aspect of your life in your and you know,
your day to day life, your circumstances, your conditions, thinks

(01:24:09):
of this link to your economic conditions. So so this
is I think this is I think they're gonna regret
this result here. Uh, eventually, all right.

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Speaker 6 (01:26:08):
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Speaker 6 (01:26:32):
Boy cos Jasmine Crockett has no issue giving Republicans the
business on anything including immigration.

Speaker 5 (01:26:38):
Check this out, thank you so much.

Speaker 40 (01:26:42):
I just want to clarify that usually when we talk
about racism and the Republican Party, it has to do
with things like deleting the history of Jackie Robinson, deleting
the history of Harriet Tubman, or deciding that the Tuskegee
Airmen should be deleted, or maybe just defunding.

Speaker 5 (01:26:56):
The African American Museum. The list kind of goes on
and on on and on.

Speaker 40 (01:27:00):
But I am not here to talk about why they
are racist. I am here to talk about some other
things as it relates to immigration. So let's get to that.
You know, it's interesting because we got all these theories.
I don't know why we put up with getting data
and facts if we just gonna sit here and talk
about how we feel, so, you know, maybe we can

(01:27:22):
inject some facts into these feelings. I'm not really sure,
but it's somebody who has actually practiced criminal defense.

Speaker 5 (01:27:30):
I don't know if there's anybody else in here who has.

Speaker 40 (01:27:33):
I can tell you that I have handled thousands of cases,
not hundreds of cases, thousands on the state level in Texas,
Arkansas and the federal level, and I can tell you that,
you know what, if I had to look at the
vast majority of the cases that I was representing criminal defendants,
on the vast majority of them just didn't happen to

(01:27:53):
be immigrants. These are just the facts of my experience,
and maybe the immigrants went.

Speaker 5 (01:27:57):
To somebody else.

Speaker 40 (01:27:58):
I don't know, but I can tell you in my
actual experience, in real life, in reality and not in
this fallacy world, that y'all.

Speaker 5 (01:28:05):
Are making up where you hate on everybody.

Speaker 40 (01:28:08):
So my Republican colleagues are here using today to continue
pushing this false narrative of sanctuary cities harboring criminals. Yet
right here in DC we have a thirty four account
fell in being harbored in the White House. The hypocrisy
coming from your side of the isle over concerns regarding
lawlessness is outrageous. Right now, House Republicans are conducting town

(01:28:28):
halls with constituents lying about our legal system that quote,
there is no due process if you come here illegally
because you violated the law. That immigrants quote are not
entitled to due process. Nowhere in the Constitution does it
say that we all want to live in a country
where we respect the law. So I'm a bit surprised

(01:28:50):
that Republicans aren't up in arms with Trump. Detaining and
deporting US citizens and people who are lawfully present here
in the United States. With Trump and Ice are doing
is a disgrace, and it's all being done without respect
for our laws. For example, mister Nieri Alvarado, a Dallas
based baker, was arrested and deported to El Salvador prison

(01:29:12):
for having an autism awareness tattoo in honor of his
fifteen year old autistic brother. This was done despite having
never having been to El Salvador, despite having no gang affiliation,
and despite having no organized crime connection. He was deported
because ICE agents have been detaining quote all Venezuelans with tattoos.

(01:29:36):
And to be clear, this type of racial profiling isn't
just a one off. In fact, the ACOU, using DHS's
own data mind you, found that at least sixty five
percent of the states and local agencies voluntarily working with
ICE have records of racial profiling and civil rights violations.

(01:29:57):
Mister Franklin, first of all, let me and share, let
me thank you for your service.

Speaker 5 (01:30:02):
Too, right, because I appreciate law enforcement. I just want
to put that out there.

Speaker 40 (01:30:07):
But mister Franklin, Major Franklin, you're a decorated law enforcement officer,
yes or no, and your experience is racially profiling people
make communities safer?

Speaker 10 (01:30:17):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:30:19):
And yes or no?

Speaker 40 (01:30:20):
Does ICE forcing state or local law enforcement to detain
people make communities safer?

Speaker 10 (01:30:27):
No?

Speaker 40 (01:30:28):
You know it's interesting because we've already and we're gonna,
you know, do Groundhogs Day A couple of times seemingly here. Actually,
let me give you the facts real quick before I
go to that.

Speaker 5 (01:30:39):
In fact, a report for.

Speaker 40 (01:30:39):
The American Immigration Council found that cities that didn't enforce
ICE detainers have thirty five point five percent lower crime rates,
two point three percent lower poverty rates, and rely less
on public assistance, including four point nine percent less for
children under eighteen. And I do want to be clear
right now, ICE is trying to work with the irs

(01:31:00):
because we actually taken billions of dollars because of immigrants
in this country, and now they're going to try.

Speaker 5 (01:31:08):
To get them out.

Speaker 40 (01:31:09):
And I'm going to tell you that the biggest issue
that we have. I really don't think this should be
a part is an issue. So I'm going to agree
with my Republican colleagues. I think that we all should
want to be safe in our communities. The problem that
we have is that we have an incompetent administration that
everything that they touch turns to shit because what they
do is they take a wide sweeping brush and they

(01:31:32):
have decided that the enemy is now going to be
immigrants instead of taking a scalpel. That's all we're asking
is to be exact in what you're doing instead of
taking a sledgehammer to everything.

Speaker 5 (01:31:43):
Thank you, and I will yield.

Speaker 6 (01:31:46):
What is happening is racial profiling is literally going on, Andrew.
It is happening before our very eyes. Lawyers are fighting
this and this thing is even worse. These people are
literally literally talking about I'm going to show you this
here and for all the black folks who are like man,
ain't got nothing to do with us. No, no, no, no,

(01:32:08):
Watch this here, Rubio says, Our Salvador offers to accept
us deporties of any nationality, including violent American criminals. These people,
these people literally are going to try to to port

(01:32:28):
American citizens.

Speaker 25 (01:32:31):
Yes, that is just so disheartening.

Speaker 8 (01:32:36):
First, I want to say, Jasmine croct is one of
my favorite politicians of all time. The truth that she
speaks unapologetically is something that I think we can all
learn from me as a lawyer. And being able to
speak up and even sometimes open courtrooms and speak for
someone's rights and see her do it on a grand scale,

(01:32:57):
it's just so inspiring. But you know what we're gonna
see is a lot more people running from the police,
a lot more dangerous situation.

Speaker 25 (01:33:10):
Someone gets pulled over for going twenty.

Speaker 8 (01:33:13):
Just by the sheer fact that they look Hispanic or
they look of a certain national origin, They're automatically going
to say, even if I have all my papers, even
if I am a US sitenz or I'm here legally
with some kind of visas status, I am going to
run from the police. And you're putting police officers in

(01:33:33):
danger now, right because you're you're telling you, you're telling
American citizens that you can be sent just like the
slave tree. You can be sent to another country simply
because you look like a certain type of person. And
the other side of this is going to be unreported crimes.

(01:33:55):
How many people are going to be taking advantage of
these communities because they know, well, if you report what
I did to you, you know, if you report that
I didn't pay you, or if I did something violent
to you, if you report it, then they're going to
send you to a country you've never been to before. Right,
So you better keep your mouth shut. And black people, please,

(01:34:19):
please please stop saying I'm glad that it's not me.
I know we've dealt with it for decades, We with
the we're resilient people, but please stop saying that it's.

Speaker 25 (01:34:35):
Not about me.

Speaker 8 (01:34:37):
Because it is because of the fact that we've been
through this, because of the fact that we've endured this,
we should have a unique view and empathy for these
other races and nationalities that are now going through with this.

Speaker 25 (01:34:52):
We have the same thing.

Speaker 8 (01:34:53):
When Not eleven happened, right, everybody that was Muslim and Arabic,
they were targeted. Now we're seeing it happen that happened
to our Hispanic friends. And you think that these white
folks can tell a difference between someone from El Salvador,
someone from Colombia, and someone from Puerto Rico.

Speaker 25 (01:35:10):
No, that's not just everyone up.

Speaker 8 (01:35:12):
And the last thing I'm gonna say before I yield
the floor black to you, Roland, is you know the
people that I am most disappointed in are my Hispanic
friends that.

Speaker 6 (01:35:23):
Voted for Donald Trump.

Speaker 9 (01:35:26):
And then when they.

Speaker 8 (01:35:27):
Get arrested and deported, they say, oh, I didn't think
that he was talking about me.

Speaker 6 (01:35:37):
So, just in case anybody is confused, yep, and y'all,
oh I think he's making that up. No, no, no,
this is the idiot. Press Secretary Carolyn Levitt literally literally
confirming Yep, We're gonna send America's after countradition.

Speaker 41 (01:35:53):
Over the weekend President Trump who said that he would
be willing to have US citizens deported to El Salvador
re Co presidential Pila. How would that work legally and
how many people would potentially be available for that operation.

Speaker 42 (01:36:07):
So the President has discussed this idea quite a few
times publicly.

Speaker 6 (01:36:10):
He's also discussed it privately.

Speaker 42 (01:36:13):
You're referring to the President's idea for American citizens to
potentially be deported. These would be painous, violent criminals who
have broken our nation's laws repeatedly, and these are violent
repeat offenders in American streets. The President has said, if
it's legal right, if there is a legal pathway to
do that.

Speaker 9 (01:36:33):
He's not sure.

Speaker 12 (01:36:33):
We are not sure if there is.

Speaker 42 (01:36:34):
It's an idea that he has simply floated and has
discussed very publicly.

Speaker 7 (01:36:38):
As in the effort of trend.

Speaker 6 (01:36:43):
That's a whole lot. Trust you, Joy, They're going to
do it. They're going to going to do it.

Speaker 28 (01:36:48):
The Supreme Court is already contemplating. Sonya Sotomayor and one
of her opinions has already said, you know what this
is coming.

Speaker 7 (01:36:58):
They understand that this is where this is going. And
let's be clear, it's.

Speaker 28 (01:37:04):
A sliding scale on what is a violent offender, what
is a repeat offender, And also mistakes can happen, as
we're seeing in Maryland, and once a mistake happens, it'll
be difficult to get you back.

Speaker 7 (01:37:17):
And then, my goodness, if you are a dual citizen,
if you have citizenship in.

Speaker 28 (01:37:21):
Another country, it can also be difficult to give you
back that the government can say in some.

Speaker 7 (01:37:27):
Kind of confusion as to who you really belong to.
This is going to happen. This is happening with legal
residents right now.

Speaker 28 (01:37:36):
And yes, to my colleagues point the communities that are vulnerable,
whether they are undocumented, whether they are here legally but
are not citizens. And when you are here legally and
you are not a citizen, you are typically afforded all
the rights and responsibilities of citizenship, with the exception of
voting right. You're not able to vote, but you are

(01:37:58):
given the same constitution protections. And sometimes for undocumented persons
you're given the same constitutional protections. So you know, ultimately
we may prevail in the courts, but in the meantime,
there are going to be people who are lost in
the sauce, are who are lost.

Speaker 7 (01:38:14):
In the system.

Speaker 28 (01:38:15):
And they are going to people are afraid and they
are going to limit their own activity because they are
afraid of what might happen to them. I have friends
who are law professors who've spoken out against Israel, and
they are legally here marriage to United States citizens, have

(01:38:35):
their green card, but they are not citizens. And those
people are making choices about what they are saying and
not saying in terms of their policy and public policy
and their legal work, about what conferences they take overseas
and which ones they don't because they don't want to
leave the country because they're afraid they may not be

(01:38:55):
able to get back in.

Speaker 7 (01:38:56):
It's already chilling speech.

Speaker 28 (01:38:58):
This is as intended, and it's going to now open
people up to criminal derision, people who are exposed to
criminal enterprises and activities because all people have to say is,
you know what, you have family members who are undocumented,
you have a green card, you know what, You're a citizen,

(01:39:21):
but you're poor, and no one's going to listen to you.

Speaker 6 (01:39:23):
Hey, Michael, on that particular point right there, lawyers are
even shocked they're just snatching student visas. Yeahs, that's just
I mean, students are like, like, what the hell did
I do like now, yeah, coming.

Speaker 3 (01:39:34):
Back, yeah, yeah. This is what dictators do. This is
what we're warning people about before the election. But to
a quick points here. First of all, this is not
the first time in history where American citizens have been
deported illegally. Happened in the nineteen thirties during a Great Depression.
Up to one point eight million people of Mexican descent

(01:39:57):
were deported to Mexico, and estimates sixty percent of them
were American citizens who were here legally. And it started
under Herbert Hoover, continued under President Roosevelt, and Herbert Hoover
had a campaign called American Jobs for Real Americans, And
what they were saying was, but these Mexicans were taking

(01:40:18):
jobs away from white people and they were deporting they
were deporting them back to Mexico. And then when you
talked about the when represented Jasmin Crockett talked about the IRS,
I used wants to get hold of records of undocumented
immigrants with the IRS because, contrary to popular belief, undocumented
immigrants paid federal taxes and the Yale Budget Lab estimates

(01:40:40):
that in twenty twenty three, unauthorized immigrant workers paid sixty
six billion dollars in federal taxes, with roughly forty three
billion of that taking the form of payroll taxes that
fund Social Security and Medicare. So this is way beyond
the pale of what many people thought Donald Trump was do.

(01:41:00):
But this stuff is laid down on Project twenty twenty five.

Speaker 6 (01:41:03):
But first of all, it was almost one thousand pages.
Folks didn't read it. But his other deal didn't even matter.
They kept saying, I don't think they're gonna go that far. Yeah,
they were. They spelled it out, they told you they
were gonna do it, and people like well Nold Trump said,
he that's out his planning. It's so it's not gonna happen. Okay,

(01:41:23):
all right, y'all, y'all, y'all believed the liar who lies
of our lives.

Speaker 3 (01:41:28):
Yeah, well, he said what he was gonna do during
the campaign, Like he said he was gonna shut down
the Department of Education. That's Chapter eleven and Project twenty
twenty five. Okay, he railed against dee I, Diversity, Equity
and Inclusion and said we wanted.

Speaker 9 (01:41:40):
Base to put them there on it. He's doing he's
doing all of those things.

Speaker 6 (01:41:44):
Well, hey, so I tried to tell again, we tried
to all the people who keep saying we didn't think
it was gonna happen. Damn, it's actually happening. Well, we
tried to tell you what's gonna happen, but now you
didn't believe us. So now what? All right, y'all quick break,
We'll be right.

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Hey, I'm Donnie Fimpton. What's up. I'm Lance Gross and
you're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered. Well, folks, every April fifteenth
is known as Jackie Robinson Day. Of course major League Baseball,
all of the players wearing number forty two in honor

(01:43:14):
of Jackie Robinson. Well, April eighth last year was a
big celebration. It was called Hank Aaron Day on April eighth,
and on that particular day, that was the anniversary of
when he broke Babe Ruth's record seven hundred and fifteen
home runs. Yesterday, of course was April eighth. And we
don't necessarily show Henry Hank Aaron the same kind of

(01:43:37):
love that we do Jackie Robinson in terms of nationally,
but I wanted to do that, and so this is
just so I interviewed Hank care This is from our
coverage when Henry Aaron passed away and I did an
interview with him when I was at TV one. I
was later honored with the Henry Hank Aaron Courage Award.
We appreciate that as well, and we're gonna be streaming

(01:43:58):
some of that stuff tonight and tomorrow to honor Henry
Hank Aaron. So I just thought it was good to
hear from him again, recognizing one our great history makers.
Listen to this Saturday seventh anniversary Jackie Robinson Major League Baseball,
twentieth anniversary of them retiring his number in all of

(01:44:22):
Major League Baseball. Just finish reading his book. I never
had him made, and I said to anybody, you have
to read this book to understand that this was a
different kind of brother. Yes he was.

Speaker 43 (01:44:39):
And now that we're talking about it, you know, they're
getting ready to erect a stature of him in Los
Angeles Saturday. It just so happened that I've gotten three
or four calls and I was just wishing, trying to
figure out a way that I can be there, and Rachel,
who doesn't travel that much, it's going to be there
with him, you know, won't see that that's the statue

(01:45:02):
of being erected.

Speaker 16 (01:45:03):
So I am very proud.

Speaker 43 (01:45:05):
And you know, the thing I think that I think
about it with Jackie Robinson and the thing that he
went through. It wasn't just baseball hitting the baseball, but
he had to be such a gentleman off the field.
I mean they expected him. They expecting him to walk
on the eggs sheels, you know, really and his back yeah, yes,

(01:45:28):
right to the temper of that yes, yes, So it
he just had it and the last time I saw Jackets.
The last time I saw Jacket, of course, was it.
I believe it was in Cincinnati when he said he
made a statement and said, I'll be more happier than
anybody that would I.

Speaker 16 (01:45:45):
Can see a black man at least coaching third base.

Speaker 43 (01:45:50):
So those are the things, and that those are the
thing that really made me feel like I was walking
in the footstep of a giant.

Speaker 6 (01:46:00):
Said this repeatedly. Some people got mad at me. Out
didn't care. I think they get mad at me still
so much made out of the first African American in
Major League baseball. But I've reversed it. I said, No,
the best major league talent was in the Negro leagues.
That was called major leagues because they had better stadiums,
better uniforms, travel, I said. But when it came to

(01:46:22):
the talent, I said, the major leagues was the Negro leagues.

Speaker 44 (01:46:28):
Oh, it's no question about it, you know, absolutely no
question in fact that when anybody talked to me about
my upbringing, how I came about and started playing baseball
so rapidly, I said, I got my education through the
minor leagues, playing in the Negro League with players that
really helped me learn how to play the game that

(01:46:51):
we it was supposed to be played.

Speaker 6 (01:46:53):
And the reason I think that's important is because if
we keep perpetuating this notion that we're trying to be
accepted into their arena, we are negating the excellence that
was in our own places. So it's like, there's so
much made about when an African American kid gets acceptly

(01:47:14):
to Ivy League school or to get accepted to HBC.
You could go, okay, whatever, when I go, wait a minute,
why do you think that is better than this?

Speaker 43 (01:47:25):
Well, you know, actually, you know, baseball was just was
a dull game before we started playing. When I said,
we are talking about people like Jackie Robinson, Campanella and
Newcome and all of them. And then along came, of course,
our guys like Maury Wills and etcetera, who.

Speaker 16 (01:47:44):
Really put some excitement back in the game.

Speaker 43 (01:47:46):
Uh, baseball was just a game like hit a hit
a baseball, bay Rue hit a baseball, stilled for his space,
hit another baseball.

Speaker 10 (01:47:55):
It was like that.

Speaker 16 (01:47:55):
It was.

Speaker 43 (01:47:56):
It was really, to be very honest with you, it
was a very dull game compared to what it was
later on when those players came along and really put
some excitement back in the game. It's kind of like
I guess you would kind of say that it was
kind of like boxing until Muhammad Ali came along and
really start showing putting a little pep into it.

Speaker 6 (01:48:19):
You know, it was style.

Speaker 16 (01:48:21):
Yes, that's what it was, you know, and that's where
baseball was.

Speaker 6 (01:48:24):
You know, JACKI Robinson retires, goes into business. You finished playing,
go into business. Folks don't talk about the reality of
how sports legends also began to break barriers when it
came to the business side, because up until the early

(01:48:46):
nineteen seventies, African Americans were not allowed into corporate America.

Speaker 16 (01:48:50):
M Well, you're absolutely right. And I was to tell
you how I got into it.

Speaker 43 (01:48:57):
Really, I was traveling on a plane when then I
happened to be on the same plan as mister Frank Blatte,
who owns record I mean own Church's Chicken at the time,
who was involved in Church's Chicken, And he asked me,
did I want to go in business? And I said yes,
I love to. He said, well, what are you want
to hop up a restaurant? I said yes, I just
give me an opportunity. And it's like anything else. You know,

(01:49:21):
all we want to do is just give them a
chance and make the plane feel a little level so
we can have the same opportunity as you ask. That's all,
that's all we want. And I said, just give me
an opportunity. He said, do you know anything. I said,
I don't need to know it. Just give me an
opportunity to do some things that I wanted to do.
And he did, and I went from one to two.

(01:49:44):
And what we got now, I think we got something
like twenty five or thirty restaurant and then as I
went to an automobile business, yeah, I got that. And
so it was all we wanted to do.

Speaker 16 (01:49:58):
As I said before, and I keep saying this in everything,
no matter what it is.

Speaker 6 (01:50:05):
We had.

Speaker 43 (01:50:05):
The President of the United States did such a mobl
and a hell of a job, and there is absolutely
no reason that we can't do anything that we want
to do. Wants to play in field, get level, and
we can have an opportunity to do those things.

Speaker 6 (01:50:20):
Obviously, today is different. When you see baseball players making
one two hundred, three hundred million dollars, they don't have
to create that second career. But what do you say
to them when it comes to making that amount of money,
the kind of impact they could have post baseball career,

(01:50:42):
and you.

Speaker 43 (01:50:42):
Know, I, you know, I think about that. I think
about when I first started playing baseball. When I first
started playing, I started with five thousand dollars a year
as a salary. That was my Sarah, and playing in
the Negro League, I made two hundred dollars a month.
But you know, I didn't let that stop me from

(01:51:04):
doing what I had to do. I realized that things
were going to get better. And I realized that if
I keep my head above water and do what I
was supposed to do, that I was going to do.
I was going to make as much money as I
wanted to make and shared with as many people as
I wanted to share it with.

Speaker 16 (01:51:21):
And that was the most important thing.

Speaker 6 (01:51:23):
We go through so much when you look at just
the history of the black athlete, you look at it
whether it's basketball, whether it's baseball, where there's football, and
there's no doubt I believe that you can tie in
the advancement of African Americans in civil rights in this

(01:51:45):
country to the success of black athletes. Making it clear,
as you said, well, James Brown said, just opened the door,
and I get it myself.

Speaker 43 (01:51:56):
Right right, Well, they forget about flood, and if it
don't be for Greate flood, the millions of dollars who
these athletes are making now would not have a chance.

Speaker 6 (01:52:09):
And basketball fort forget about spywood.

Speaker 43 (01:52:11):
Yes, you know, and and and you know, I think
about all of these things, you know. And I had
a chance to look at some of the athletes, especially
some of the athletes that was played wayback, Bill Russell
and etc.

Speaker 16 (01:52:25):
You can go on and on and on who paved
the way for all of us to be where we are,
you know.

Speaker 43 (01:52:30):
I mean I realized that just because I was making
two hundred dollars a month, of making five thousand dollars
a year, that I wasn't going to always say that
if given the opportunity, and I fought like hell to
make doors open for me, to show people that if
given the opportunity, not only me, but every black can
do the same thing.

Speaker 6 (01:52:51):
Is that why for you speaking at this conference is
important because you're talking about creating opportunities, and this is
about connecting people. It's about reallyglationships. It's about somebody who
has an idea, who's looking for funding, who's looking for
somebody who says I believe in you.

Speaker 16 (01:53:07):
It is it gives me a chance.

Speaker 10 (01:53:09):
You know.

Speaker 43 (01:53:09):
Of course I've been on hand it for a long time,
but it's given me an opportunity to talk to so
many young people and people who have in well, who
have been able to make some money, but also been
able to say, well, you know, just because I make money,
it doesn't necessarily mean that it belongs to you.

Speaker 16 (01:53:29):
You have to learn what we have to do.

Speaker 43 (01:53:32):
And I said this, I think the most important thing
is that we have to learn how to share. We
have to learn how to share whatever our wealth is,
you know. I mean, if we make ten dollars, we
all learn how to split that down and share it
with others.

Speaker 16 (01:53:49):
And that's what I like to do.

Speaker 6 (01:53:52):
Do you miss the locker room? Do you miss mixing
it up the relationships? And have you ever been able
to replicate that? No, I have not missed the locker room.
And I said that not to be not bragging anything.

(01:54:13):
I think that after twenty three years of playing baseball,
I tell this story often that I probably shared with
some people today, is that I remember in Baltimore, I
had a friend of mine and he and I went
out to dinner one night.

Speaker 16 (01:54:28):
It was a sports rider and I told him.

Speaker 43 (01:54:30):
I said, I can't the balls that I hit now
that I used to hit over the fence, they don't
get no further than the wanting tracks.

Speaker 16 (01:54:38):
I said.

Speaker 43 (01:54:38):
I slide to second base and I get halfway, and
that's it. I said, the Good Lord had shown me
that he'd given me the opportunity to play this game
for twenty three years and do everything humanly possible. That
I could do home run runs batter than playing in
an All star game, World Series and etc. And I said,

(01:55:00):
now it's time for me to show my blessing and
my appreciation and give it to other people and let
them go with it.

Speaker 6 (01:55:08):
You talk before you started rolling cameras. You talked about
going on family graduations. Yes, children, Yes, do they really
understand your greatness?

Speaker 43 (01:55:19):
You know, my daughter, my granddaughter, does very much. So
she's into sports. And every time I go up there,
that visitor, she says, Papa, please, I want you to
be interviewed by a sports writer. A sports writer she
happened to be a young lady. But I think they do.

(01:55:42):
I think at first they don't know, and when they're
young four five six years old. No, but I think
that most of my kids, which I'm blessed to say
that most of them are.

Speaker 16 (01:55:53):
In their teens and understand. I think they understand that
what I've been through.

Speaker 6 (01:55:58):
And speaking of being through, Jack Robinson went through a lot.
You went through hell breaking that Major League running baseball records,
and I don't think the average person understands what that
level of pressure is like. And frankly for a white
baseball player, and I say it all the time, they
can just they can just play ball. I said all
the time. We would love just to be able just

(01:56:19):
to go to the store and not wherey about getting shot,
getting followed around. We would love people just to be
able to drive down the street and not where about
getting pulled over by the cops because the kind of
car that you drive, it is just a different kind
of life.

Speaker 43 (01:56:31):
Well, it was different. It was different from me. It
was different from me chasing that record. You know, really,
you know, you think that the only thing I was
doing was bringing the little pleasures of people's mind, you know,
enjoying a baseball game. And yet I had to have
two or three Maynad Jackson, who was a math at
that time, fixed me with two.

Speaker 16 (01:56:51):
Detectives that was with me all the time.

Speaker 43 (01:56:55):
Half the time. I couldn't stay at the ballpark. I
had to stay in a hotel room all the time.

Speaker 16 (01:57:00):
I had to have.

Speaker 43 (01:57:03):
Casanova, who was a friend of mine, to bring food
to me in my in the hotel. So, yes, things
were a lot different for me than they would be
for said I said this and no pun intended.

Speaker 16 (01:57:17):
Like Pete Roose was going after the record, he enjoyed it.

Speaker 43 (01:57:21):
I didn't have any enjoyment when I was going after
Babe Ruth record because every letter I received people were
threatening me and doing all these things.

Speaker 16 (01:57:29):
So I had to worry about it. They stay alive
doing some other things.

Speaker 6 (01:57:37):
I look at players today, they want to play football,
they want to play basketball.

Speaker 16 (01:57:43):
I grew up playing baseball.

Speaker 6 (01:57:45):
But then all then there was a point where I
fell I love I just I fell in love with it.
When you see the few number of black players today,
do you what crosses your mind?

Speaker 16 (01:58:00):
I'm worried about it, really I am. I'm worried about it.

Speaker 43 (01:58:03):
And I have brought this to the commissioner, even bud Selik,
who's commissioned before.

Speaker 16 (01:58:09):
And I've brought it to run Manford. I brought it
to all of them mine that you know that it's
a problem.

Speaker 43 (01:58:17):
It is a problem, and how do we solve It's
it's a long.

Speaker 16 (01:58:23):
Issue, you know.

Speaker 43 (01:58:23):
Really, it's something that I think that if you think
about when you think about the economic struggle that we
and I'm talking about we as black folks have in
this country. If we have, if it's a struggle, we
gonna feel the pinch. Black folks don't feel it more
than anybody. And when we talk about baseball, baseball is

(01:58:45):
a very very expensive sport because you have to have
the right field to play on, you have to have
the bat to play with, the glove to play with.
And if your and then if your mother and father
is not working to do these things, she can't do it,
can't do you any good.

Speaker 16 (01:59:04):
So I think that in all I think that I
just like to I don't know.

Speaker 43 (01:59:11):
What I can say is say that I hope that
in the next few years.

Speaker 16 (01:59:18):
That we can see more blacks playing this game.

Speaker 6 (01:59:20):
A kid out there right now cannot hit home runs,
can steal a basis, can't do any of those things,
but they can be an entrepreneur. They could be a CEO,
your advice for them.

Speaker 43 (01:59:32):
I think that the thing that I tell most kids,
most young people that in fact that they don't want
to play baseball, there is things that they can do.
The most important thing I think I try to tell
all kids that there is no shortcut in life. Make
sure that you know if you want to play baseball,

(01:59:53):
take it one step at a time. Some people can
jump over a double a ball and get to the
major league. You can do things right away. Now, if
you want to go into business, you got to treat
people right. The most important thing. You got to treat
people right and act like it is a business. The
most important thing.

Speaker 16 (02:00:11):
When I was.

Speaker 43 (02:00:13):
The automobile business or whatever I did, I didn't care
whether a customer came in my store and was going
to spend a dollar fifty cents on a flag or anything.
I treated that customer the same way that I would
treat a customer that came in and had its mortial overhaul.

Speaker 16 (02:00:30):
So I think that you got to learn how to do.

Speaker 6 (02:00:32):
That all right, then, Hamber and to hang and we
appreciate it.

Speaker 16 (02:00:36):
Thank you, thanks a much, thank you.

Speaker 6 (02:00:39):
You know, Michael, we off the time would the folks
become ancestors. We just sort of just might still mention them,
might still reference them things along those lines. But to
hear people have to listen to him. I read his
book when I was young, talk about the hell he said.

(02:00:59):
Pete Rose enjoyed when he broke the record, but Henry
Lewis Aaron. White folks hated this black man for daring,
for daring to use his skill to break a baseball record.

Speaker 16 (02:01:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:01:21):
Yeah, I remember Hank Aaron when I was a kid
growing up in the nineteen seventies. I remember seeing him
in a commercial, if I remember correctly, it was for
the Boys Club or something like that, and he talked
about hitting seven hundred and fifty five home runs. I
remember seeing footage of him break Babe Ruth's record, and

(02:01:44):
actually there's a white guy that ran out on the
field and patted him on the back. But I do
remember hearing him talk about the fear that he had,
the death threats he was getting, things like that, and
you know, it was it was many ways. You know,
it was a different time, you know, back then, and
Babe Ruth was in baseball. Babe Ruth, who's looked at

(02:02:08):
as the the the epitome, Okay, the the epitome of
a superior baseball player, and now here you have this
black guy that's going to break his record after, you know,
decades after the color barrier have been broken down in baseball.
So we saw the white supremists wanted to hold on

(02:02:31):
to that superiority. But what a lot of people have
talked about is that, you know, you can't say Babe
Ruth was the greatest because he didn't play against black players.
You know, the negro leagues have better players than than
the than the major leagues had many times.

Speaker 9 (02:02:47):
So yeah, but that's that.

Speaker 3 (02:02:50):
I've seen that interview that you did before Roland that
that's a fantastic interview with Hammer and Hank Aaron.

Speaker 6 (02:02:56):
Well, and what was interesting here, Joey is that he
hated the name Hank Aaron.

Speaker 16 (02:03:00):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (02:03:00):
If you read of you read Howard Bryan's book, White
Folks in the South call him Hank, And he was
there and his father didn't like it as well. He
was his friends called him Henry, Henry Henry Hank Lewis.
Aaron Michael was referencing when this when he hit the

(02:03:23):
home run and this guy ran to the field. Uh.
He later talked about that. Hell, he know whether he
was going to actually even get get attacked by this guy.

Speaker 10 (02:03:34):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (02:03:34):
And not only that, in a moment, you're going to
see when he crosses the field, you're going to see
how his mother is hugging him. His mother was so
scared to death. She later said that she hugged him
the way she did because if they tried to take
a shot at her son, they would shoot her instead
of him. I mean it was I mean, the racial

(02:03:59):
tension that that they had to endure was utterly incredible.
You go see it in the second when his mom
comes up, uh and uh, and she was like, yeah,
I ain't gonna not gonna do something, my baby, that
ain't gonna happen. But again, I mean the hat that
right there, she was scared. She was scared to death
that that that a sniper was gonna shoot her son.

(02:04:21):
And she said, I'm going to stop the bullet. They're
gonna take me out, not him.

Speaker 28 (02:04:27):
You know, I mean I had not I've of course
seen the beginning, but I had not seen the end.

Speaker 16 (02:04:32):
With his mom.

Speaker 28 (02:04:32):
That's so poignant and so right on you know brand
for what moms are. And you see him holding her
holding his back right now, you know, the fact of
the matter is, you know, it's so important that you
did that interview and that we actually hear from people.

Speaker 7 (02:04:48):
We so often have stolen the voices of people.

Speaker 28 (02:04:51):
Even famous people, who we think we know who they are,
but we don't actually talk to them. This is the
importance of history because it tells more than just the
sport story. And our white friends loved the sports story,
but they never love you know, what's behind it. They
relish the white guy who runs out and celebrates him,
which is great. And his colleagues, his teammates who were

(02:05:14):
cheering for him, Well, what we don't talk about or
how many of his teammates prior to may have been
disdainful of him. How many people were threatening him and
so he had to be cautious about who's coming on
the field. How many people were calling him other things.
How much of the fact that he didn't get to
choose his own name in terms of how he was

(02:05:34):
known and addressed to the public. These are the important
stories that we don't want to lose to time, right,
But to people like Donald Trump, I mean, I hate
to bring it down because this is not about him.
But we did see an attack on history this week.
And we have seen an attack on history in the
last couple of months, and part of that is trying

(02:05:55):
to steal our narrative, to not tell the complicated history
of a Erica.

Speaker 7 (02:06:00):
Many good things, but also some.

Speaker 28 (02:06:03):
Dark sides as well that give us insight into where
we are right now, right now.

Speaker 7 (02:06:10):
We are all here.

Speaker 28 (02:06:11):
We're well dressed, we're well spoken, we're you know, I'm
sure everyone on this call is fine to a degree.
But when you really talk to us and you get
our history, you understand how stressed we are for our nation.

Speaker 7 (02:06:24):
It is so important that we.

Speaker 28 (02:06:26):
Capture stories, that we capture the fullness of it. So
I thank you for capture suring mister Aaron there Andrew.

Speaker 6 (02:06:33):
Before we go, there's one other person. One hundred and
twenty seven years ago today was the birth of the
great Paul Ropes. And he was an activist, singer, he
was an athlete, he was an actor. He was, of
course a member of the coldest Bodhist fraternity of them all,
Alphaha Alpha Frattornity Incorporated. And this is a man who

(02:06:56):
stood up to Jim Crow. Racism America hated this man
so much that they took his passport and he died
broke because he could not perform. He could not make
money in the United States, he could not make money overseas,
but he was He is the standard bear when you

(02:07:17):
talk about someone who is in the arts who also
believes in activism. Here is a clip of Paul Robeson
talking about the importance of colonialism and African American rights.

Speaker 45 (02:07:32):
The American negro who for so long has been a
second class citizen in the United States. I'm sorry, well, hello,
is that he's contributed so much to Aerican culture, well, music, dance,
everything you can think, Well, I.

Speaker 16 (02:07:46):
Have to be very modest about that.

Speaker 23 (02:07:48):
I would stay certainly as we look at the African
peoples in Nigeria, for example, I just got a wonderful
invitation to go to Nigeria to be present at the
installation at the Governor General a Zequey, an old friend
who will and I had to cable him. I'm in Australia.
I Satin would like to be with you, but I'm
out here with some good folks. But I'll get to

(02:08:10):
Nigeria later.

Speaker 46 (02:08:11):
If fail that Africa is to some extent an affinity
ward home or do you still feel Americans essentially you
have how do you feel.

Speaker 23 (02:08:19):
Well, let me come here. I'll come to that in
just a second. But to come back to it, so,
I would say the Africans and the American Negroes have
turned out to be an extraordinarily gifted people. The great
tragedy is that by not making as full class citizens
as yet in America, they may be losing I don't
know how much yet. And to come back I would
say that unquestionably I am an American born there, my

(02:08:43):
father's slave. There Upon the backs of my people was
developed the primary wealth of America, the primary wealth. You
have to have accumulated wealth to start you or to bill.
You did it another way here in Australia. You know,
you had to build your accumulated wealth too. You just
came and took it, you know what I mean. And
that's what they did in most of the countries it's west.

Speaker 16 (02:09:02):
Is what the Europeans did.

Speaker 9 (02:09:03):
You just took it.

Speaker 23 (02:09:03):
We got to catch up with you a little so
in America. So there's a lot of America that belongs
to me yet, you understand. But just like a Scottish
American is proud of being from Scotland, I'm proud for
being African. I went our school books. They tried to
tell me that all Africans were savages. Un till I
got to London and found most of the Africans I
knew and were going to Oxford and Cambridge and doing
very well and learned their culture. And even once somebody

(02:09:28):
had the temerity, after one had conquered the Chinese people
and imposed upon them the opium trade and everything else,
to suggest that they were backward people. Just the people
who had been civilized so long over the rest of
you folks didn't make any sense at all. So somewhere
it was wonderful to find about the colored peoples of
the world that they were very advanced. So I would

(02:09:48):
say today that I'm an American who is infinitely prouder
to be of African descent, no question about it, no
question about it. I'm an Afro American, and I don't
use the word American ever. Slee again. Now, this was
the feeling.

Speaker 46 (02:10:02):
This was the feeling that's right when you're in London
about not in say, thirty seven thirty eight, you really
had the world that your faith then, I mean, you're
a tremendous success. You recognized that of the world, and
yet you went back to America. This was the failing
that took you back.

Speaker 23 (02:10:15):
I felt I had to go back to my people.
That's right. The going was tough, and today I can
go back. I just had my passport renewed. I could
go back to pretty tough times now. But anytime I
could get a telegram next week that the Negro people
had gathered somewhere in one of their conferences as they
could and say, Paul, in the difficulties that are going
on in America, would you come back and help us.

(02:10:37):
I would take the plane as soon as I finished
my engagements.

Speaker 6 (02:10:42):
Is a strong That was a strong brother right there, Andrew,
And if anybody wants to really understand how powerful. When
they had the House on American Committee and they called
him to testify, and they called Jackie Robinson testify against him,
and Jackie Robinson greatly regrets at it actually doing that

(02:11:02):
later and later in his life. People need to go
pull the transcripts. There's a great audio recording of James
Earl Jones, another great voice for reading reading the exchange
with the racist US senators. But if you want to
see a black man take on the federal government. Go

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listen or read those transcripts.

Speaker 8 (02:11:29):
You know, as an advocate myself, that's so inspiring to
see even decades ago, when the climate I know, we
you know, complain about the climate today, but when the
climate was so dangerous to speak out about racism and
to be an activist. And now it's dangerous. You can

(02:11:51):
lose your freedom, you can even lose your life. But
there was almost certain death. I mean the story going
about Aaron and just hearing about the fact that he's
hitting a baseball into the stands and people are upset.
Their team is winning, right, but people are upset because

(02:12:12):
he's breaking the record of another white man. And for me,
I was born in the eighties. I don't mean to
date myself, but for me growing up, I grew up differently.
And this is something that I have to understand about
people that grew up in or that were born in
the Obama era, right, that were born in the two thousands,

(02:12:36):
that may have been eight when.

Speaker 25 (02:12:38):
He was elected.

Speaker 8 (02:12:40):
This is the first time that they're really seeing their blackness, right,
because all throughout their life they've seen the progression in
the strides that we've taken as a people all to
be erased in less than one hundred days, right, And
to hear mister Ross be out so elgently and so confidently,

(02:13:03):
you know in a room like that is truly truly inspiring.
And yes he is part of the second greatest fraternity
ever because the first one is five be Sigmuth Fraternity Incorporated.

Speaker 6 (02:13:15):
You lost your you know, you just see let's see
right there. I don't I don't even why, y'all don't
even know why you even want to invite that level
of embarrassment on national television. You know, doll gone well,
if we had to do a roll call, we're gonna
leave y'all in the dust. Now you know, doll gone

(02:13:35):
well the bit Listen, you got Paul Robes and Alpha
who pledged Alpha y'all made Hair Belafonte in honorary. Now
he my man, but he an honorary, y'all, may Bill
Clinton honorary, Al Sharpton honorary. Ain't no honoraries at Alpha.

Speaker 9 (02:13:52):
But go ahead, I pledge, though, go by myself to say, y'all.

Speaker 6 (02:13:59):
Y'all see, I see. This is when you know, uh,
this is when you know you ain't got sense because
you asked for as whooping.

Speaker 8 (02:14:10):
So just don't even well, look, come out to Prince
George's county.

Speaker 10 (02:14:14):
You know we can.

Speaker 6 (02:14:16):
We can get it that please.

Speaker 8 (02:14:18):
But you know, the last thing, last thing I want
to say Roland before before we conclude, is that for
we've seen it for decades that and even for centuries,
that white people do not like anyone winning that's not
them and they will do anything in their power to
keep that power. And one thing that was going on

(02:14:41):
during the UH during the campaign for Kamala Harris is
you saw this black excellence and this era of black
excellence that she had, and that really turned off the
white people in power because they felt that that white
privilege being attacked, right, and that white privilege going away.

Speaker 25 (02:15:02):
So we as a people, we have to go back
and we have to really.

Speaker 8 (02:15:06):
Go back into the tapes into people like mister Robson right,
and how he was speaking and the type of activism
and that he was doing. He wasn't segregating himself. He
wasn't saying that I you know that I hate, I hate,
I hate. He was embracing the He was embracing white people,
embracing their culture, but also making them aware of their

(02:15:26):
biases towards his culture, and thank you so much Roland
Martin for allowing me to be on this show and
embrace the stage with you and share the stage with you.
I've been watching you for a number of years, and
the work that you're doing here is important, especially during
times like this where it's dangerous and where there's a.

Speaker 25 (02:15:46):
Lot of opposition.

Speaker 8 (02:15:46):
There's a lot of reasons for you to stop doing
what you're doing for your own safety and for your
own wellbeing.

Speaker 25 (02:15:53):
But I appreciate you doing this every single day of
the week.

Speaker 6 (02:15:55):
Appreciate you. Thank you so very much. I'm gonna close
this out with this. The testimony only of Paul Ropesen
took place on June twelfth, nineteen fifty six, and this
is what he opened with. He said, could I say
that the reason that I am here today, you know
from the mouth of the State Department itself, is I
should not be allowed to travel because I have struggled

(02:16:16):
for years for the independence of the colonial peoples of Africa.
For many years. I am so labored, and I can
say modestly that my name is very much honored all
over Africa in my struggles for their independence. That is
the kind of independence like Sakarno got in Indonesia. Unless
we are double talking, then these efforts in the interests

(02:16:37):
of Africa would be in the same context. The other
reason that I am here today, again from the State
Department and from the court record of the Court of Appeals,
is that when I am abroad, I speak out against
the injustices, against the Negro people of this land. I
sent a message to the ban Dun Conference and so forth.
That is why I am here. This is the basis,

(02:16:57):
and I am not being tried for whether I am
a communist. I'm being tried for fighting for the rights
of my people who are still second class citizens in
this United States of America. My mother was born in
your state, mister Walter, and my mother was a Quaker,
and my ancestors in the time of Washington baked bread
for George Washington's troops when they crossed the Delaware, and

(02:17:20):
my own father was a slave. I stand here struggling
for the rights of my people to be full of
citizens in this country. And they are not. They are
not in Mississippi, and they are not in Montgomery, Alabama,
and they are not in Washington. They are nowhere. And
that is why I am here today, you want to
shut up every negro who has the courage to stand

(02:17:40):
up and fight for the rights of his people, for
the rights of workers. And I have been on many
a picket line for the steel workers, and this is
why I am here today. In Russia, I felt for
the first time like a full human being, no color
prejudice like in Mississippi, no color prejudice like in Washington.
It was the first time I felt like a human

(02:18:01):
being where I did not feel the pressure of color
as I feel in this committee today. He was asked
by mister Shearer, why do you not stay in Russia?
He said, because my father was a slave and my
people died to build this country, and I'm going to
stay here and have a part of it just like you,
and no fascist minded people will drive me from it.

(02:18:23):
Is that clear. I am for peace with the Soviet Union,
and I am for peace with China. And I am
not for peace or friendship with the fascist Franco and
I am not for peace with fascist Nazi Germans. I
am for peace with decent people. Then Scherer says, you
are here because you are promoting the communist cause. Robosis replies,

(02:18:44):
I am here because I am opposing the neo fascist
cause which I see arriving rising in these committees. You
are like the Alien Sedition Act, the Jefferson that Jefferson
could be sitting here, and Frederick Douglass could be sitting here,
and Eugene Debs could be here. The chairman of the
committee then said, now, what prejudice are you talking about?

(02:19:04):
He said, that was no prejudice against you. Why do
you not send your son directors in ropes and responds
just a minute. This is something that I challenge, very
deeply and very sincerely, that the success of a few negroes,
including myself or Jackie Robinson, can make up And here's
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year for thousands of Negro families in the South. My
father was a slave, and I have cousins who are sharecroppers,
and I do not see my success in terms of myself.
That is the reason my own success has not meant
what it should mean. I have sacrificed literally hundreds of thousands,
if not millions, of dollars for what I believe in.

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I say, you, gentlemen, belong with the Alien and Sedition Acts.
And you are the nonpatriots, and you are the un Americans,
and you ought to be ashamed of yourselves. That testimony
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you so very much, folks. The reason we do this
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Henry Aaron, A Paul Robson, all these things matter. Next
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