25W: Most Memorable Draft Reactions from Round 1 + QB Joe Flacco on the Browns Expectations in 2025 + Our Top 10 NFL Players of All-Time

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Speaker 3 (01:02):
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Speaker 1 (01:07):
Yes, too bad, But what did you expect.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
It's a podcast called twenty five wiste.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yes you heard anybody who yelled football? This guy, the
new guy, right, he didn't know. We didn't tell him.
So when it's not football season, we have the intro
that goes, it's blank, we're talking, and we all wear
a whistle. We yelled sports in the middle and I said, hey,
we're not gonna yell sports. We'll do the football one,
which Brandon interpreted as yell football.

Speaker 5 (01:39):
But what an idiot he recorded the original one.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Who sings the theme songs. Yeah, yeah, there is it
is football. We doubled up.

Speaker 5 (01:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
I watched the entire draft last night. Yeah, and most
of the time I don't watch all of it. Life
gets in the way. But I kind of had a
couple extra tokens I could use just being an awesome husband,
and I was just like, I'm just gonna watch the
whole draft. Yes, yeah, So I didn't really catch him
out of stand the other room. I just didn't. Yeah,
I just hit. I hit basically. So I don't want

(02:14):
it to be too much about what's gonna happen in
the second round, we can say, sure they didn't get
drafted shoulder. And that was weird because it was where's
he gonna go? I mean, first it's possible they would
go to Cleveland, but when Cleveland traded out of that
spot and jackson Villain's have given up everything to get
that spot, you're like, well, he's not going to Jacksonville
because they have a quarterback they just paid for a
long time. So then you're like, possibly the Giants, but

(02:37):
probably not the Giants. And he didn't go to the Giants.
So then the Browns were there at five, and you
thought maybe the Browns were trading back because they knew
that Shouldar would still be there at five, and so
there is some value to trading back a few spots,
getting some picks, and getting the same exact person later.
But when they took Mason Graham, you're like, well, I

(02:58):
don't think it's gonna be the Raider because they just
paid their quarterback. And that's like a Pete Carroll reunification
tour there, yep. And so you're going, okay, well let's
just look down. I hope it'd be the Jets. I
have been hilarious. It wasn't the Jet Open, it wasn't
the Panthers they have a quarterback, But it was the
Saints at nine. That's what they had been talking about

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for a long time. But the whispers had then started
to be the Saints didn't even really value Schudur as
the next quarterback up. And you're going, really, they may
go and they may go to Ole Miss. It's funny
they call Ole Miss Mississippi.

Speaker 5 (03:34):
Yeah, because they put on.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
The screen and they do it. They put on the screen,
oh Miss. But Goodell goes from Mississippi University of Mississippi.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
Ye.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
So but no, no quarterback at all taken by the Saints.
Then you're thinking, well, will it be the Cowboys? And
only because they're dumb, that's the only reason. That's funny thought,
that's the only reason. Because I thought, maybe it'll be
the Cowboys just because they're idiots. Yeah, not because they
needed it. They they're paying down fifty million a year.

Speaker 5 (04:01):
That never crossed my mind.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
But wasn't the Cowboys.

Speaker 5 (04:04):
Nope?

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Then you're going, is it the Dolphins? Two is always hurt.
They are paying them a bunch of money, but that
backup gets regardless of who it is gets a lot
of playing time, and I think the ESPN analytics, because
I was flipping from ESPN to NFL Network, how did
it like forty six percent Miami at that point? So
Miami ends up going to defend the tackle, and you're

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looking down and you're thinking, either someone's going to trade
in at any minute, or a quarterback's not gonna get taken.
Because the Falcons don't need a quarterback. They didn't take
a quarterback, The Cardinals don't need a quarterback, The Bengals
don't need a quarterback. Seattle possibly, Okay, no Shitar, the
Bucks don't need a quarterback, the Broncos don't need a quarterback.

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Nobody's trading in, and now it's all coming to the Steelers,
right because we had heard if he lasted a twenty one,
which we didn't think it was gonna last twenty one anyway,
for sure, the Steelers Derek Carmon defensive tackle again, Oh crap.

Speaker 5 (05:02):
I would have bet the farm on that.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
So in my mind, I'm thinking probably the Chargers next,
because the Charger would have traded that pick, is what
I would have thought, because if the Steelers weren't gona
get him, it's open market for any of those other teams.
But the Chargers being next, now, they didn't they took
They got there from North Carolina and then away we went.

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Packers on need to quarterback, Vikings on need to quarterback.
Oh wait, wait wait, there's a trade. And they showed
the draft room where is and he's got a huge
smile and he's like laughing, ude, what was funny. The
funniest thing to me was on ESPN they showed where
Shadur was. He's in Dallas. There his home and there's
a big draft party. But on the screens they have

(05:46):
NFL Networks draft coverage. They didn't last very long in
that room. They cut out of there because they were
showing NFL Networks. Yeah that's who they were watching that.
I didn't notice that, Yeah, because I saw Rapport and
on the found network it was Eisen and Rappaport and
also okay, yeah, so okay, giants about to get them,

(06:07):
about to get shutter. Here we go, baby Jackson Dart
University of Mississippi.

Speaker 5 (06:14):
My favorite is when they showed the fans and they're.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
Like, and there had been a lot of talk that
it wasn't gonna be Sudar. But it was like we're
hearing I know it's not the most popular thing to say,
but Jackson Dart could go before shouldar uh and then
shoulder never went. So by the time you hear this,
shooter is probably the first pick in the second round,
probably in Cleveland or whatever, because Cleveland, imagine that they're

(06:38):
still going to get the quarterback. They almost took as
round the first pick in the second round. Wild and
nobody they don't have to trade that pick. Like, if
that's what they want, they got it. Nobody can actually
trade into it and take it from them. It's crazy.

Speaker 6 (06:50):
Yeah, and they stocked up. Yeah, the Jaguars trading up.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Which to say about that, The Jaguars gave up a lot. Yeah, However,
the Jaguars GM is like thirty two for sure. He
trades like I do on Madden, Like he just trades,
probably the way that I just push. Will they accept this?
Will they accept this? What if I add one more?

(07:15):
Will they accept this? Well? They and then finally somebody yep,
trade accepted And so yeah, they gave up a lot. However,
I'm a big believer of taking big swings. He took
a big swing, and if you miss. Okay, you took
a big swing and it sucks. But you really don't
do big things unless you take big swings. And it's
not as if they're going to be any good for

(07:37):
the next couple of years. Without big swings. They can
slowly rebuild that culture, but that's a four or five
year thing. Yeah, and they will have to rebuild a culture.
But they got a new coach. They now have Travis Hunter.
They got a new GM. It's thirty two years old.
I was watching the interview. He's like, it looks like
a kid. It's crazy, Like, for sure, he trades a
lot on Madden.

Speaker 5 (07:54):
Oh yeah, that's how your practices.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Yeah, I watched the whole thing. I thought it was
fun whenever the Eagles traded up one spot, but that
was in the first round, just to make sure. But
they traded up with the team that went one spot
behind him, where it's almost like you call can't sit
and you go, hey, are you gonna take John Campbell?

Speaker 5 (08:12):
Right?

Speaker 1 (08:13):
No, all right, then we're gonna be good and sit here.
But they were like, we don't trust you, Yeah, trade
us and we'll give you a fifth round. And so
they traded up one spot and they got him. Think
about him was he was like twelfth, thirteenth, fourteenth on
all the boards, but he had he was hurt yep,
because he's so good. The Eagles, it seems like every
year have somebody fall for character reasons or injury reasons,
then ended up being awesome because that culture there either

(08:36):
a they heal up or.

Speaker 5 (08:38):
Be and the Eagles already had like as a fan base,
have character issues.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Well yeah, or be that culture corrects them, right yeah,
oh yeah, Like you don't go into you can't really
go into that place to be an idiot because they'll
whoop you. They'll whoop it out of you. Yeah. So
I thought for the most part it was a pretty
fun draft because you just didn't know. The whole time.
I kept thinking the Cowboys were gonna draft Golden from Texas.

Speaker 5 (09:01):
That's what I wanted, man, that receiver. That would have
been great. But you know what, though I'm happy with
this pick. We needed someone to take Zach Martin Zach
Martin's place.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
You're not happy with the pick. No, you're happy with
now when you look you wanted we want to flash
Patthey Golden, you said you get annoyed when they drafted.

Speaker 5 (09:18):
I want a gent and then I wanted Matthew Golden
and then Scataboo after that. But Skataboo will be around.
I think we have three picks in the seventh rounds. Well,
maybe we get scatter.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
You'll definitely draft a running back. There's a lot of them. Yeah,
heavy running back draft. Yeah, you weren't happy last night,
but I think you'll be happy. It's like a sexy investment. Sure,
didn't know much about investments. But when I'm like, ooh,
let's do a restaurant that's a wide receiver or hey,
you're like, it's gonna be fun. But if someone's like,

(09:49):
actually the S and P four four eighty, you know
you could do this and it goes up one point,
I'm like that sounds so boring, Okay, and then like
three years later, your lies of the restaurant out of business,
it's boarded up, or it's a daycare. Now money, it's
actually made you money. Yeah, like that's what you guys?
Did you invested in whatever that is?

Speaker 5 (10:07):
I know. But there was an interview that he did
afterwards with Michael Parsons and a couple other cowboys, and
it was so awesome. They asked him, like, you know
about He's always said that he loves taking the the
love out of people's eyes when he plays football. And
they're like, what does that mean? Did you hear this?

Speaker 7 (10:23):
I saw that.

Speaker 5 (10:25):
What does that mean? And he goes, he goes, He's like,
football is a child sport, Like it's you know, you
wake up in the morning, you excited to play the game.
And he's like, and I took so much, so much
love out of playing these guys and watching the game
start with them loving the game of football and in
the middle of the game them looking like they hate
the game of football. And I was like, Yes, that's
what I'm talking about. That's what the Cowboys need.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
You've been terrible. Jer Eddy would shift on every single
thing because he was all upset. Now he's like, yeah, upset.

Speaker 5 (10:53):
I was disappointed. But then after I saw that interview
and like, this is cool and he's the third tyler
on the offensive line. You're just gonna get.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Well, you're justifying a lot of ways to like this.
You know, he's really good. He's a guard. Guards usually
don't get drafted at early. Tackles are much more valuable
because of how athletic they have to be defending the
edge because those ends have the ability. But yeah, no,
uh awesome, let's me go so, yeah, good job Cowboys.
As a non Cowboy fan, I think that was a

(11:21):
good pick by the Cowboys.

Speaker 5 (11:22):
Yeah, you have clearer eyes.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
I can understand why I'm in a Cowboy group chat,
which I don't want to be in. They put me in.
I can't get out.

Speaker 5 (11:28):
I don't even respond to that Cowboys group chat.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
They were all like oh or nothing for a long
time after the pick, and they all leading up to it,
the memes and pictures, and then I rode on there.
The crowd goes mild.

Speaker 5 (11:39):
I guess I did nothing.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
They said nothing. What is everybody else think? Yeah, so
a pretty good draft. I mean Cam wod obviously we
knew he'd go number one. Travis Hunter we knew would
probably go number two. We just thought it'd beat to Cleveland,
Abdill Carter. It kind of was the way we thought.
It just wasn't all the teams that we thought I did.
I've had two bad I had betting losses in the

(12:01):
past two days though.

Speaker 5 (12:03):
Did you bet on the draft?

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Well only I only made one bet. I may I've
lost like thirteen hundred dollars in the last two days.
I'll tell you my two bets specifically. You good, Yeah,
I'm richt you.

Speaker 6 (12:15):
Need a loan.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
I'm okay. I don't like it, Spot, I mean, it sucks.
It's not like fun to lose, But now I appreciate that, Rightead,
we're here for you.

Speaker 5 (12:23):
Yeah yeah, I had about twenty bucks all together. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
I bet the other night when Golden State was down
like eighteen to the Rockets. They were at minus. There's
Golden State plus eight and a half going into half,
and I was like, Oh, for sure they may not
win this, but they're gonna end up getting and so
I'm putting.

Speaker 5 (12:39):
Wait, wait, you said for sure. Yeah yeah, it Almos
gets me. When I say for.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Sure, I'm like, for sure, gold does it. Golden State
they may not win, but they'll climb within eight points
and they didn't. Actually, they lost bad. That's about fifteen.
I saw a five hundred bucks on that one, and
in my account, I think I had thirteen hundred bucks,
and so I bet Ashton genty to go fifth overall
last night. The rest of it like seven hundred dollars
seven thirty or something, and he went sixth, and that

(13:04):
was only because the order changed.

Speaker 5 (13:06):
Dann, That's crazy, that's close.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
I think it was. To look at that again, what
do oh you know because Cleveland popped into that five spot.
It did because if the deal was Jacksonville at five
wanted to take him, and if Jacksonville would have been
at five, they would have taken him. But Jacksonville traded
up to the two spot. So I think had that
trade not happened, I would have hit.

Speaker 5 (13:25):
Yeah, Browns, we went down to five.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
Yeah, so hey, ub blood do you ubla?

Speaker 5 (13:31):
Do I know? But that live NBA, dude, that's tough.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
I didn't watch the game. I fell asleep and I
woke up and I was like, oh, let me count
my moneyes. Oh god, what that was funny?

Speaker 5 (13:39):
You said this today too, You're like, man, I want
to sleep. Hear the Grizzlies won and sure got picked. No,
none of that happened.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Well, I didn't think she got picked, but I did
think to Grizzlies won because we were talking about it
on the show.

Speaker 5 (13:49):
I watched that whole game too.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
If they were up by twenty or something.

Speaker 5 (13:52):
Shit just started draining threes in the second half, and
that was over and I had.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Just assumed it was two to one because we did
the YouTube video with Raid see if I was gonna
buy some tickets to the game, and I'll say it's
two to one. And I was like no, no, no, like,
oh my god, they lost again. I knew Jow got hurt. Yeah,
but it was like a it was like a twenty
point lead. Yeah, twenty nine crazy, Yeah, Thunder up three
to zero.

Speaker 5 (14:14):
Hey, I called it. I'm just joking. I'm not gonna
say that yet. I'm not gonna say that yet. Wait
till round two. But it is fun though. It's fun
now that like.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
I'm rooting for the Thunder, but there's a bonus to me.
Now if they don't win.

Speaker 5 (14:26):
Are you rooting more for Thunder or me and a
thong Thunder?

Speaker 1 (14:30):
But there is a consolation, which is you have to
pay off the bed. I think it'd be awesome with
a Thunder one. I just I've been playing two K
a little bit, not online, but just myself because sometimes
I wake up like two in the morning, and there's
a breaking point of when I wake up and when
I try to go back to sleep and when I
wake up and I just can't go back to sleep
because then I'm messed up because there's a certain level
of nap that just messes my brain up. So there's

(14:52):
a breaking point. It's like two forty five. I wake
up before two forty five. I'll try to go back
to sleep. If I'm up three ten, three twenty, I'm
just up because I'm gonna wake up in the next
hour and a half anyway. So I started to play
two K twenty five just against the computer. So I
built a team, and I grabbed the Thunder. That would
be my favorite NBA team, even though don't really have
a favorite, but it's my favorite NBA Current Thunder, All Thunder,

(15:14):
Current Thunder because it's the season and I tried a Chat.
He sucks. Wow, I don't know what to do with
him really, yeah, because he's a fine three point shooter,
but he's not quick enough. I just don't know how
to use him on the game. He was like a
ninety overall traded who did you tradeing for Amen Thompson
and another draft pick? So I got rid of Chat.
He sucks on the game, and he also couldn't post

(15:36):
people out. They push him around Skinny as a rail.
Gonna be a terrible general manager.

Speaker 6 (15:39):
I played like the Jaguar.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
Yeah, I play like I played like two games and
I was like, I gotta trade chet. I'm out of here,
so we're all scared of you. Yeah, so that's what's up.
I want to play. I found this on TikTok. It
was hilarious to me. I think it translates audio wise.
But it's a compilation of the worst draft reactions of
all time from the last decade. And it was posted

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by Skimma Scavie on TikTok. And what it is they'll
say and the so and so draft so and so,
and the crowd gets all pissed off, but it ends
up being great, like a great decision. The crowd had
no idea. They have a time machine, obviously. I think
this translates go ahead, hit.

Speaker 6 (16:17):
Of Mike, the bucalo Bill selection Josh Allens.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
Vikings with Justin Jefferson. I am kind of unhappy with that, jjaj.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
It hurts quarterback.

Speaker 7 (16:37):
That has to be the stupidest thing I've ever seen. Patrick.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
Really, this is.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Why this organization will never win.

Speaker 7 (16:47):
A Super Bowl in my life time.

Speaker 8 (16:50):
That's great, That's hilarious right so far, I'm ahad to
translate because I'm watching it going we have no idea,
even us, even the experts, because either Kuiper is going
to be mister genius in five years from this draft,
or he's going to be the biggest idiot, because as
soon as the draft starts, they're.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Like, mel Cav's not your number one quarterback. Con He's like,
it is not, It's Shader Sanders and it's like a
nine minute American Idol highlight package all about he's like
number one, number one. And so either he will look
like a genius for this or not. But the way
to win these as a Kuiper who's an analyst, us

(17:28):
who just say stupid stuff, we don't know anything, is
just to be compelling and interesting. It's not to be right.
And I think a lot of times people get those
confused are like, well, you look how wrong he was.
The joke's kind of on you because if they were wrong,
it was memorable by how they were wrong, and they
still exist in whatever the zeitgeist of sports media is.
When they do the cow herd like how wrong he is?

(17:49):
At times the dude talks for three hours a day,
four hours day, five days a week, just numbers wise,
you're going to be wrong a lot. But he's very compelling.
And even he said that to me, it doesn't matter
if you're right or wrong, like just be interesting and so.

Speaker 5 (18:04):
Iard said that too.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Yeah, and so he wasn't. He was saying in a conversation,
we were having awesome yeah, and the time. Feel about
all the stuff that we do on this show or whatever.
We don't. We we're not experts anyway. We're people who
just love sports. But even on the big show, like
I say all kinds of stuff that's not right, and
sometimes I correct it. Sometimes I'm like, who cares? Most
time I try to correct it if it's something that

(18:26):
needs to be corrected. But yeah, we're wrong a lot.
That would draft reactions they were really wrong.

Speaker 5 (18:31):
I mean that Josh Allen then we were all like
what who is Josh Allen?

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Even after year one they were still like yeah. So
even in the NFL for a year, we were like,
I don't know about this. I do want to play
Michael Parsons. Because Michael Parsons was live streaming like his
podcast Bleacher Report thing last night and they had the
camera on him when the Cowboys were drafting their pick,
and so Michael Parsons is watching and they end up

(18:55):
drafting Tyler Booker from Bama the guard and so baby
bleacher which reports deleted the clip which is hilarious.

Speaker 5 (19:02):
Oh he said they say something bad.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
No, no, but I was just playing for you.

Speaker 9 (19:06):
Go ahead, and the Dallas Cowboys are selected. Tyler Booker,
offensive lineman from Alabama is the official pick out of
the Crimson Tide.

Speaker 5 (19:21):
I am excited about hey, player, but we just laughing.

Speaker 10 (19:28):
Hold on, hold on, I am excited about the pick.
This guy is a beast. He is a beast. And
I look at him and Tyler Smith guard on guard
with Zach Martin leaving. This is one of them picks.
I mean, wow, he is a beast. He is a beast.
I just wanted to see that on my side.

Speaker 5 (19:47):
That's it. But this guy's a beast.

Speaker 10 (19:49):
I'm not mad at the pick.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Because when they said, his face goes But I believe him.
I think he just wanted totally. He wants some help.
Yeah yeah, because he doesn't have much help.

Speaker 5 (19:59):
It that is him, not anymore.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
But seriously, he was deflated. Yeah, they were like, and
he goes, no, no, no, it's because I thought it was
gonna be help.

Speaker 11 (20:07):
He's just like Eddie another every other Cowboys fan. Yes,
you know, at first you're like and then you're like,
oh god, kay yeah, actually he's all right the highlights
and you're like, okay, got to convince yourself.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Yeah he wanted We all want help, but that will
there will be help. That's help for the offense.

Speaker 5 (20:22):
Yes, and that's coming.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
We got more rounds and offense scores more points. He
gets more chances to rush the quarterback, more sacks because
they're always having a little more rest to have the throw. Yeah. Yeah,
I felt that though. So we have Joe Flacco coming up,
pretty excited about that, really good interview. Into a second,
we can talk about draft kings. I gotta get back
in the.

Speaker 5 (20:43):
Next Oh yeah, reload. You're good, dude.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
I never want to reload for the sake of losing.
What do you mean, I have two big losses. I
don't want to reload just to make my money back.
I got to reload, get my head straight, Okay. Yeah,
so take some time a little bit at your head
straight back thirty minutes from it. Yeah, the NBA eighty
two game grind is done, and now the real fun begins.
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Speaker 1 (22:09):
Now it's time for our talk with Joe Flacco, NFL quarterback,
super Bowl forty seven m VP playing with the Browns now.
I bet you he was watching last night going, don't
picture her, don't picture here.

Speaker 6 (22:21):
He just seems so un phased in every way.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Yeah, Flack just goes with.

Speaker 5 (22:28):
Around.

Speaker 11 (22:29):
But yeah, to your point, I'm just surprised he's already
signed with the team.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
I mean I think he'll he'll start, Oh he should,
I mean, can you Pickett's probably not. I don't know what.
I don't know what they're gonna do. If they're tank,
they'll start Picket and Flacco will be the backup because
Picket gets hurt. If they actually want to win some games, Yeah,
Flacco will probably be the starter. I imagine that Browns
will draft Shouldure first overall. And I hope this doesn't

(22:55):
get played back in a compilation of like wrong things.
Bobby said, Yeah, Joe signed with Cleveland this offseason, and
we'll turn to the Browns where he played in twenty
twenty three when he wont comeback Player of the Year.
You know who he beat the comeback player of the year. Yep,
A guy who died tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (23:10):
That's right, Yeah, he died and came back to life.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Yeah. He played for the Ravens for ten years, played
for the Broncos, Jets, and cults. Sense Joe Flacco pretty
pumped about this here he is. Hey, Joe, appreciate the time.
I wanted to start talking about these cleats because, like,
I get hurt a lot, and I'm not even playing football,
Like I'll play pickleball and get hurt at this point.
Like I used to be like kind of an athlete.
But so these is it Kaddox cleats? Is that what

(23:34):
it is?

Speaker 7 (23:35):
Caddocks cleats? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (23:36):
What do they do?

Speaker 12 (23:38):
Well, Listen, the biggest thing they do is they kind
of blend performance and injury prevention all in one cleat.
It's all the technology is all in the soul, all
in the actual cleat. It kind of moves around a
little bit and it just basically like allows a little
bit of release when you're planting, so as opposed to
sometimes when you can kind of get caught and hyper

(23:58):
extend your limbs and kind of you know, have too
much traction. This allows for a little bit of a
release so that not as much energy is kind of
moving up through your body.

Speaker 7 (24:07):
But it's really cool.

Speaker 12 (24:09):
I feel really fortunate to be able to kind of
be a part of it and wear.

Speaker 7 (24:12):
Them last year and kind of had that whole experience.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
So you feel like they helped, Like for real.

Speaker 13 (24:17):
Listen, I think the biggest thing is is you know
that the technology is reducing the risk now as far
as the athlete goes as far as I go, I
just went out there and wore them like any other
pair of cleats.

Speaker 12 (24:30):
I will say they're very comfortable. They tend to break
in very quickly and be a little bit easier on
all your joints. But ultimately, for me, it's like I'm
wearing another pair of cleats that I've loved my whole life.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Bro, I got to get some of these. We do
a show too. We travel around and like work out
with colleges and NFL teams like an interview, and I
end up I end up hurting something every time because
it's all I going to get, which, By the way,
they're doing a thing now. Catos is partnering with NFL
Alumni Health during this week's draft to give away prepare
their cleats and you can go to NFL Alumnihealth dot
org or go to Katos dot com c addix dot com.

(25:07):
My partner that I work with a lot is Matt Castle,
who played in the league for a long time, and
he talks about once he started to be a bit
older and he had dealt with injuries that the hardest
part was not not getting injured, it was bouncing back
because as you get older, it's harder to bounce back

(25:27):
at your stage right now, is that the hardest part
is when something hurts, does it take longer to heal?

Speaker 12 (25:33):
I think you got to make sure that you get
to the point where nothing you minimize the amount of
build up that happens. Obviously throughout the course of a game,
you're gonna deal with acute injuries that you have to
try to heal from as quick as possible. But I
think for me, as I get a little bit older,
it's just that maintenance routine. It's getting a good routine
so that little things don't turn into big things. And

(25:55):
when I was younger, you kind of run through those
little things in a week. And now I've turned forty,
they kind of build up, they don't go away, and
before you know it, you're hurting a lot more than
you want to.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Does it hurt after every game or is there an
occasional game where you're like you look down, You're like,
I'm okay.

Speaker 12 (26:12):
That's the beauty about playing quarterback is that, yes, you
do look down after some games and say, oh wow,
I came out of that one great. And you don't
really deal with anything. The other ten eleven guys on
the field, the other twenty one guys in the field,
when you're out there, they are dealing with it week
in and week out. I would say that I have
it easy, as you know, as it comes to the

(26:33):
NFL standard.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Why are you still playing? You love it?

Speaker 12 (26:37):
I better love it if I'm doing this. Yeah, yeah,
I listen. I have one thing, maybe hopefully a couple
more than one thing, but one thing that I really
really enjoy doing, one thing that I feel like I
can really do at a high level, and I've never
really thought about not doing it. I've been able to
do it since I've been a kid, and I kind

(26:58):
of just want to keep that dream alive. I still
feel like I can do it at a high level
and have a lot of fun doing it. So yeah,
that's kind of why I still do it. It's kind
of a weird question to talk about, but it's a
lot of fun and I do love it. I love
being in that locker room with all the players. I
love being in the huddle. That feeling that you get

(27:20):
before before game time. I wouldn't say that I'm totally
in love with that, but when you don't have that
for a few months, you realize that you miss it.

Speaker 7 (27:29):
It's just something that's pretty special.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
Yeah, just eyeball testing you. You look good, Like even
with the Jets, you're like man Flacco still got it,
like when you had to play. So if you weren't
like telling us that you were forty, or if the
media wasn't all the time like Flaccos thirty eight, Flahs
thirty nine, I don't think you like you. It's almost
like Adrian Peterson when he got hurt. Everybody was then,
oh wow, we can bounce back quicker or ap did

(27:53):
Brady's playing in the forties the guys are playing in
the forties a little more, if it's technology of its health,
if it's education about you know what to do to
their body. But I feel like you don't play like
I would think a forty year old should play.

Speaker 5 (28:04):
Like.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Do you feel like taking care of your body is
really paid off at this point in your career because
of that.

Speaker 7 (28:09):
I do.

Speaker 12 (28:10):
I don't know if I do anything special, but I
think I've been consistent through the course of my career.
I figured out probably within the first three or four
years that I need to come up with a routine
and make it important to me to kind of stay
in shape and get stronger. And I think that the
fact that I've been able to stay consistent is kind
of what's allowed me to keep going. Obviously, you have

(28:32):
to get lucky along the way too. I've dealt with
a couple of little things here and there where maybe
I haven't felt one hundred percent, but I think that
routine has kind of allowed me to get back to
where I could feel good.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
Is it weird to play for a new team and
you've done it a couple of times, But when you're
a raven forever and you go in the first time
put on a different color and you look in the mirror.
Is that weird?

Speaker 7 (28:52):
It was the.

Speaker 12 (28:53):
First time I did it was definitely strange, and I
was a little bit nervous about it. I was kind
of felt like the new kid in class, and you know,
walking in to a locker room for the first time,
and who's the first person you're going to say hello to?
Is it going to be awkward? You know, kind of
having all those weird feelings that you don't know why
you're getting when you're when you're an adult. But I
think after I did it, you kind of realize that

(29:13):
there's a lot of similarities.

Speaker 7 (29:14):
In every locker room.

Speaker 12 (29:15):
We're all kind of working towards that common goal and
we've kind of been doing it our whole lives. So
there's a lot of similarities that you see from locker
room to locker room. And there's always great guys that
you connect with and can have a lot of fun with.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
So what about Stefanski? What is it about him that
brought you back and then brought you back again?

Speaker 12 (29:32):
I think Kevin's, you know, a really good play caller,
and I think his demeanor in general is very good
for running a team. The way, he's kind of able to,
you know, stay himself and be the same person throughout
the year kind of no matter what's going on.

Speaker 7 (29:47):
I think he's been tested.

Speaker 12 (29:49):
You know, he's had some success, and he's had some
seasons where they haven't won as many games as they've
wanted to. And I think that that can really kind
of sharpen who you are as a person and make
you come out better on.

Speaker 7 (30:00):
The other side. And I think that's what he's been
able to do.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
Can you give me a memory from when the lights
went out in the super Bowl? Because that was weird
for us. I can't imagine you're freaking playing in the
Super Bowl and it all goes down, Like what are
you guys even talking about when that happens?

Speaker 12 (30:13):
And I remember sitting on the bench and kind of
the lights go out and you kind of just look around,
like what the heck is going on? I wish I
had more memories of it. It's funny because after the game,
everybody kind of started expressing to me what they thought,
and some people were scared. I mean a lot had
a lot of friends and family that were nervous as
what was going on. And thankfully for me, that never

(30:36):
really crossed my mind. I kind of just took it
for what it was, sat on the ground, stretched out
a little bit. You know, you think it's going to
be two or three minutes. You don't realize it's going
to be twenty or thirty or however long it was.
So I think if I had to guess how my
mindset was, it was probably taking it like every two
or three minutes, thinking they were going to come back

(30:56):
on and we were going to get right back to it.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Playing at pitchurg In College and then Delaware Like, to me,
that's cold weather. Sounds terrible, but you've played in cold
weather places in the NFL for the most part too.
Is that even a thing? Do you even get cold?
Or is that just normal?

Speaker 12 (31:13):
There's definitely things about that that are not ideal. I
think you just you put that big code on, you
sit on the heated bench, and you deal with it
for the five ten minutes that you that you're not
sitting on that bench.

Speaker 7 (31:26):
But we got it. We got it pretty easy.

Speaker 12 (31:28):
The fact that we got guys waiting for us on
the sideline to throw a big coat over us and
sit on a you know, one hundred degree.

Speaker 7 (31:34):
Warming bench.

Speaker 12 (31:36):
When you're out there playing, you're honestly not thinking about it.
It's like the first thirty seconds that you take that
code off that you're thinking what the hell am I doing?
Or pregame pregame warm ups are actually probably more miserable
than the game because you're like, do I want to
even go out there and warm up? Or do I
just want to kind of hang out in the locker
room and say, say, I'm good, I'll be ready to
go once the game starts.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
And in warmups probably no adrenaline, right.

Speaker 12 (31:58):
Yeah, exactly, you're not. You're just like, I'm not playing
the game. Why am I going to go out there
and do it to myself? And I don't have to,
So it's a little bit harder mental hurdle to get
a ticket out there for pregame.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
At the height of your career or when you will
say that your arm was the healthiest it may even
be now. You ever just chunk a ball to see
how far you could throw a ball, You.

Speaker 12 (32:17):
Know, I used to when I was in college, but
like when I was in late college early part of
my career in the NFL, I was probably more interested
in seeing how far I could throw it and doing
some long casts these days. I just kind of do
it to keep my arm in shape. I'm not necessarily
super worried about where I can throw the ball through
the uprights from when people ask me, I always used

(32:39):
to say I can. Probably I could throw it around
seventy five yards. I don't know, maybe give or take
a few yards here and there.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
So eighty eighty five.

Speaker 12 (32:47):
I honestly, if I could touch eighty, I would probably
say eighty. I don't think I've ever thrown a football
eighty yards unless I would unless I was down on
the Jersey shore on the beach with a forty mile
an hour wins, I wasn't throwing the ball eighty.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
So that's a good point, because if I'm lying about
driving a golf ball, I never lie short. I always
or I always estimate a little long. It's like, well,
do you to Yeah, I'm about two sixty five average,
and really it's not that so I guess right, Yeah,
that's a good point. When did you realize in your
youth that you had a really strong arm?

Speaker 7 (33:17):
Oh?

Speaker 12 (33:18):
I guess growing up on the schoolyard, just kind of
playing two hand touch, I could always throw that little
ball that you know, the little pee wee ball that
kind of everybody plays with. I think, you know, we
might have had a Minnesota Vikings or probably a Philadelphia
Eagles rubber football that we could kind of I could
throw the length of the schoolyard and nobody else could
really do that, so you kind of figure, all right,
I could throw the ball a little bit.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
When these guys are getting ready for draft day, draft night,
if it's Night one or second round or third night, like,
what was your draft night?

Speaker 7 (33:47):
Like? So I was sitting on my couch in my parents' house.

Speaker 12 (33:53):
I really didn't want to let cameras in because I
was unsure about where I was going to be picked,
and just kind of wanted to be more private in general.
But obviously I got talked into, you know, allowing him
to come into the house. And I was just kind
of sitting on the couch and waiting to see what happens.
And we were all watching the draft, excited and kind
of eager to see what was going to happen. But
coming from Delaware, I didn't know if I was going

(34:14):
to be There was a lot of momentum probably behind where.

Speaker 7 (34:16):
I was going to be picked.

Speaker 12 (34:17):
I felt like I was probably going to be picked
decently high. But I could have been a first round pick.
I could have been a third round pick. I had
no idea, So I was a little bit I was excited, obviously,
because at that point I didn't really care where.

Speaker 7 (34:30):
I was going to be picked.

Speaker 12 (34:31):
I knew that I was going to be an NFL
draft pick, and I think that was the most exciting thing.
But yeah, there was probably a little bit of uncertainty
in my mind too, because you just don't know where
you're going to go and where you're going to spend
the next you know, you plan on spending the next
fifteen years of your life probably wherever you.

Speaker 7 (34:46):
End up getting picked.

Speaker 12 (34:46):
So it was, yeah, definitely definitely a little bit of
a mixed feeling is about where that could be.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Who called you?

Speaker 7 (34:54):
Ozzie called me.

Speaker 12 (34:56):
Ozzie called me, and I think they were I think
they traded up with Houston, I want to say. And
he said, hey, Joe, we're about to you know, we're
about to trade up here with Houston into the eighteenth
pick and select you to become a Baltimore Raven. And
you know, obviously, like the whole room that I was
sitting in kind of went nuts because they were you know,
they realized I was on the phone call and I
was kind of giving them a head nod or whatever

(35:18):
I was doing to let them know, like, hey, it's
about to happen.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
How much sleep do you try to get a night?

Speaker 7 (35:24):
Right now?

Speaker 12 (35:24):
Yeah, we're going to pivot into health.

Speaker 7 (35:29):
Man.

Speaker 12 (35:29):
I got to tell you there was a time where,
like my kids were younger, and we could actually enjoy
like three hours on the couch, be and my wife
by ourselves from like seven thirty to ten thirty or
eleven o'clock eleven thirty, whatever we wanted to do.

Speaker 7 (35:43):
You know, we could put those kids to bed.

Speaker 12 (35:45):
But now my kids are getting older, they complain about
bedtime every night.

Speaker 7 (35:49):
It's getting pushed, you know, further and further.

Speaker 12 (35:51):
Back, And I'm usually knocked out on the couch at
nine o'clock and then at ten fifteen I'm waking up
with my wife going back to bed.

Speaker 7 (36:00):
Sleep until six thirty, six forty five every day.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
So is there you get to a game, Because there
are mornings if I'm either doing the show or if
i'm even if I'm on touring doing stand up, my
brain I just have brain fog some days and if
I sleep maybe something I eight. You ever get to
the game day and you're like, man, like, I'm just
not fully there and you have to go all right, guys,
my brain's not clicking the right way and need you
to help me out a little bit.

Speaker 12 (36:22):
Listen, there's times, Yeah, I don't know about my brain,
but your body definitely wakes up a little bit tired sometimes,
and listen, it's not ideal for us. We're waking up
even if most of the time, even if you're at home,
you're waking up in a hotel. You don't get to
sleep in your own bed, and definitely if you're on
the road, And honestly, I'm not great at falling asleep

(36:44):
and sleeping well. In a hotel. I usually can kind
of turn my mind off and not worry about anything,
and I'm the same way the night before the game.
I'm not really thinking about it. I feel like if
I do have things on my mind, I can actually
relax and go to bed and kind of put it
out of my mind. But just a night's sleep in
a hotel, I've never quite gotten used to it. So
there's always probably a little bit of that.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
Three final questions that leads me to that. So do
you stay at home? Do you stay in the same
hotel room, in the same bed to at least have
some sort of consistency.

Speaker 7 (37:13):
Man, I've been all over the place the last few years.
I have no idea.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
That's a point I've been.

Speaker 7 (37:17):
I think, typically, yes, you're you're in the same room all.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
Year, like in Baltimore, Let's same room.

Speaker 7 (37:23):
Saints, same room, same room.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Yeah, I want the same room, same bed, same channels.
I want to on Channel four when I get there,
like an hotel. I want to have some sort of consistency.
What's the goal of this season?

Speaker 12 (37:33):
The goal of this season is to kind of become
part of the team first of all, and then not
you know, I obviously have some expectations of my mind,
but try not to worry about those things. Just want
to go out there and compete and hopefully to be
the guy that's on the field this year and helping
the team win some football games.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
So my last question is the video that went viral
of you on the airplane when they call you and
you're putting your bags up in the overhead and it's
like this Joe Flacco, and that's kind of how everybody, Yeah,
what'd you think about that?

Speaker 7 (37:59):
I guess I was surprised, but.

Speaker 12 (38:03):
I think in this day and age, there's always the
chance at something like that's gonna happen. Obviously, I'm on
a flight to Cleveland in the middle of the season,
and on the flight with people from Cleveland, so they're
probably thinking if they recognize me, they're probably thinking, oh
my god, what's he doing here?

Speaker 7 (38:20):
Maybe they're looking to get him.

Speaker 12 (38:22):
And I I think I was in the back of
the plane, so people probably thought that was funny and
just kind of random shot of me. It's it's never
the most flattering thing when you're just kind of taking
getting getting candid shots taken of you in the middle
of a run, you know, in the middle of a
walkway on an airplane. But hey, I think it's all
it's all good. It kind of created some some positive
vibes and you know, got everybody excited for whatever reason,

(38:45):
and you know, gotta love that.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
Well, I'm rooting for you, man, I'm a fan. I've
been a fan. So congratulations and again, these Clayton's catocks
go over to NFL Alumnihealth dot org, orcattocks dot com.
That's super cool. And Joey appreciate the time, and I
hope you have a wonderfully healthy season. Man, thank you
for spending some time with us.

Speaker 7 (39:03):
No, I appreciate it. You guys have a good one,
all right, Thanks Joe.

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Speaker 1 (40:13):
That somebody asked me my favorite football players of all time?
And I was like, I don't know. I'm not eight.

Speaker 5 (40:17):
That's tough.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
That's tough, and I not disrespectfully. I was like, I
don't know my favorites would be ever, So I made
my list and I told Eddie tamake his two. So
do you have ten through one of all time?

Speaker 5 (40:30):
It is the easiest list, easiest list ever made in
my life.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
I got to like four or five, and then I
had to start going, who do I even like? Because
I'm a favorite team.

Speaker 5 (40:40):
Yeah. See that's where that's where it helps with me
a lot.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
All right, Number ten on your list?

Speaker 5 (40:44):
Number ten? Okay, So the lowest Joe Montana.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Should we start at one or ten?

Speaker 5 (40:48):
I'd say one, because Joe Montana is like kind of
like I had to throw them down there, because I
cannot put them up any any more than that. So
let's just go. Let's go one.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
Do you a favorite first? Okay, favorite player of all time?

Speaker 5 (40:58):
Emmitt Smith? Baby, I mean, come on.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
Did you get a picture of you and em I did?

Speaker 5 (41:04):
Got yeah? Yeah, yeah, read give me a picture of
me in em it And you know the conversations that
we had, the fact that he said, like, Edie's not
a good athlete because I'd broken my arm. That's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Yeah, he's nice because.

Speaker 5 (41:14):
Somebody had asked, like, Edy, what happened to your arm?
He's like, don't ask him. He's just not an athlete.
He's an idiot.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
It's pretty cool. You got to meet your favorite, dude,
that's so free because I haven't got to meet my favorite.
And I'll tell you mine in a minute in real life. Yeah,
but favorite football players of all time? Ms Smith? Number one,
Number two.

Speaker 5 (41:28):
Troy Aikman. All of favorite Troy Aikman.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
Now these are cowboys. Just wait for the list. Okay,
quarterback Troy Aikman.

Speaker 5 (41:39):
Yeah, number three.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
Why Troy made just because he was a quarterback when
they're winning.

Speaker 5 (41:42):
Yeah, dude, Troyman brought me so much happiness okay. Three
Michael Lerman number eighty eight, the King of number eighty eight.
He is the original O gen Well maybe Drew Pearson was,
but for.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
As long as I remember, he's your number eighty, he's
my eighty eight okay.

Speaker 5 (41:57):
And four DeMarcus where I mean, did you ever meet
de Marcus?

Speaker 1 (42:01):
I did. I introduced him at the game right.

Speaker 5 (42:02):
The Cowboys at the Cowboys game.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
He's a monster and.

Speaker 5 (42:05):
He's like, you have his number?

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Right? Like, oh yeah? We text sometimes.

Speaker 5 (42:08):
That's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
So we have a relationship because we had trauma bonding.
We did Dancing with the Stars together, yeah, and then
we would go train together in the same room sometimes.
And he was in my final dance. Like you ask
your friends if sometimes you do, they'll be like, hey,
you want to be in the final dance? Sometimes people
just want to show off their dance moves. I did,
and I just wanted to like get through it, and
so I asked him Mark, I said, hey, do you

(42:30):
want to be in my final dance? And he was
like yeah, and he lifted me above his head and
the dance. He's awesome, like great guy, but a monster,
him barreling down on you as another human. You see
that guy, that big, that fast, hitting you that hard on.

Speaker 5 (42:43):
The football field.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Yeah, wow, crazy.

Speaker 5 (42:46):
It's funny you say that because the yeah, the on
the dance when the stars funny. He picked you up.
But then also when you saw him in person, he
hugged you and picked you up. So he's kind of
that thing like, which is awesome because like you're my
best friend. And then I love DeMarcus Ware and he
came like Bobby Boss and he picked you up. I'm like, dude,
that is so freaking cool. Bobby knows him like that.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
He's so lovable, like such a wonderful guy. I wonder
did you root for him when he went to the
Broncos to win?

Speaker 5 (43:11):
Yeah, any anybody that was good to the Cowboys, I
root for him anywhere they go. Charles Haley, like, you know,
same deal. Root for him other teams.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
Yeah, I think that's a good one to there are
sometimes I don't root for people to switch teams, but.

Speaker 5 (43:25):
It depends how they left. Yeah right, Yeah. Next, Tony
dor Set old school. I mean he when I was
a child, he was the running back. He was awesome.
Five that's the number five, Yeah, and then number six
herschel herschel Walker, but mainly because he because of herschel
Walker in him being traded to the Minnesota Vikings. All that, dude,

(43:50):
we got all those picks and we got Troy Aigman,
we got Michael Lorvan, we got Emmitt Smith, and we
won three Super Bowls out of that.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
So your favorite player is a trade.

Speaker 6 (43:57):
Yeah, the value of your favorite.

Speaker 5 (43:59):
Player totally because he was awesome in himself as a player,
but when he left and got traded, it was it
changed everything for Dallas Cowboys fans.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
But it's not herschel Walker as the player. He was
still awesome though, hershel Walker, I agree he was awesome.

Speaker 5 (44:14):
So yeah, he's one of my favorite players.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
Fair enough. I'll not argue there were no rules act.

Speaker 5 (44:19):
Ceed Lamb the next number eighty eight, Well skipping does
Bryant ce d Lamb? When he got drafted. You talk
about like moments when someone got drafted and you're really
excited about it. That was it.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
Yeah, from Oklahoma, Oklahoma.

Speaker 5 (44:33):
And I'll never forget it. When the Cowboys, because I
mean Cowboys notoriously don't ever draft big names for some reason.
It's always like okay, cool, I guess we didn't need
that lineman. Don't really know who he is, but we'll
take him.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
You see where he spends a million bucks a year
on the body. That's where he came out with, oh,
a million dollars. I think it's like fifty thousand dollars
every two weeks or something. And he's like, well, when
you do you have a red light therapy. He does
the red light therapy, sauna, bed, whatever the thing is.
He has a sauna, has does body work people. He's like,
it's about million bucks a year, but it's like an
investment so he can continue to make the millions of dollars.

(45:06):
Lebron was the one, the first famous one that would
talk about how much he's spent to keep himself healthy.
But Ceedeelam wasn't like flexing on it. Somebody had asked him.
But he's like, I spent on a million bucks a
year and Lebron's still playing. Yeah, and he's forty forty eight.
It's not just playing. He'll probably be second team All NBA.
And that's not All Star team, all start team's voting.
And sometimes weird, I was get into that big sniff

(45:27):
on the microphone there.

Speaker 5 (45:28):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
The fact that Lebron's forty and his second team all
NBA is wildretty amazing. Okay, next up eight, number eight,
Michael Parsons all time. I mean, so it's nine and
a forty nine er. He did nine cowboys in a
forty nine. That's funny.

Speaker 5 (45:45):
No, No, I got one more. I think I think
Michael Parson's eight.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
I know, yeah, but I'm saying the next one is
probably a cowboy and it's probably nine.

Speaker 5 (45:50):
And know that.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
Okay, Who's nine?

Speaker 5 (45:52):
Tony Romo baby, Okay, number nine, Tony Romo, so number
nine and then Jo Romo's lower yeah higher, Yeah, man,
there are a lot of pain in the Romo years.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
I thought Quincy Carter would make it.

Speaker 5 (46:08):
John KIDTNA.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
Quincy Carter was drafted for Georgia. He was he was
up next guy, That's what we thought. He yeah, yeah,
did you do a list?

Speaker 6 (46:16):
No?

Speaker 1 (46:16):
Okay, I have my top ten here. Number one. I
have not met him in person, only on zoom. Do
you know who my favorite NFL player is? Yeah, Boomers
Bloomers because he was a left handed quarterback, and since
I didn't have a team, I kind of adopted the
Bengals because he had a left handed quarterback and their
helmets were cool. That's literally it.

Speaker 5 (46:36):
The helmets are awesome. Yeah, still are awesome, by the way,
But you're not a Bengals fan. No, don't have left
an quarterback anymore. It don't.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
Number two Darren McFadden Arkansas playing played you know, Raiders
and Cowboys, and that was strictly I rolled with him that.
My personal connection is from Arkansas to in the NFL.
I think had he been on better teams, he'd had
a much better, highly productive career because he was a

(47:05):
really good he had bad teams.

Speaker 5 (47:06):
Did you see him play as a razorback?

Speaker 1 (47:08):
Yeah, yeah, a couple of times. Number three Steve Young.

Speaker 5 (47:13):
Did that change because you did meet him?

Speaker 1 (47:15):
No left handed quarterback, of course, left handed quarterback in
those years when I had to find because I was
playing quarterback when I was young young mostly just because
I was smart. It wasn't even anything else, Like I
just knew what play, like here's the play to call.
I could run the play, and so when you're that age,
that's really it's just knowing out at what play, where
to hand the ball right. But Steve Young is left

(47:35):
hand quarterback. I thought it was so cool there weren't many,
so Steve Young was number three. I mean, if I
like in real life, he'd be up there probably one
after like after yeah yeah, but I'm weighing in all time,
like from childhood and now everything. Number fourth, Peyton Manning.
I loved Peyton Manning. I just loved the Peyton Manning
went out and ran the whole offense, and his offensive

(47:56):
coordinator was like his peer. It wasn't like the guy
that was giving him everything. It was like his peer.
He worked alongside, but he ran the show. He was
a freaking sheriff in that locker room. On the field,
I think Peyton Manning if you were if there weren't championships,
I think Peytonnnings probably the greatest quarterback ever. But because
there are championships, Tom Brady is and a vacuum thoughing.
It's like you have one quarterback and you need quarterback

(48:18):
to throw for a bunch of yards, to read deefenses to.
It's Peyton Manning.

Speaker 5 (48:21):
What era of Peyton Manning is your favorite?

Speaker 1 (48:24):
Not the Bronco era because his neck was hurt. Yeah, Colts,
he did win. He was a super Bowl champion there,
yeah yeah, but not year one. He think it to
eighteen interceptions. Yeah, like a rookie record for it. Picks
Peyton mannings number four. Dean Sanders is at five.

Speaker 4 (48:37):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
I loved Dion as a player too because he played
both ways enough. He didn't play a lot of wide receiver,
but he did some, so there was always the is
he gonna play wide receiver? But he did return kick
some punts, of course, and that was awesome. So shutdown corner,
which I didn't really appreciate till later because they didn't
show the shutdown corner on television, shutting down because they

(49:01):
don't really it's not that wide. They don't really put
someone on. That's just keeping the ball from being thrown
there because the camera follows the ball. But he was
high profile. He wore the glasses, the chains, and.

Speaker 5 (49:10):
Then he did his little hop into the end zone.

Speaker 6 (49:12):
Yes, he wasn't on yours, Eddie.

Speaker 5 (49:14):
I thought about putting him on there, but you know,
I thought I gave DeMarcus Whare that that's fun.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
Wait, so that doesn't make sense. You put to Marx
for all like five? Well here, but here's the Dean
was gonna be five or nothing. Dion wasn't a cowboy
for a long time. He shared a lot of time
with with a lot of other teams, So that's kind
of why I didn't put I think of him in
my close my eyes. I think I was a cowboy.

Speaker 6 (49:34):
Really, yeah, I do too.

Speaker 4 (49:36):
Well.

Speaker 5 (49:36):
He didn't play for Atlanta Hawks, sorry Atlanta Falcons. Yeah,
they're both birds in your eyes, dude, just playing tricks
on you. They're both birds.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
I think of Deon Sanders football, cowboys baseball breaks, even
though that was the same time he's played with Atlantic
because he could do both. But Deon Sanders at number five,
at number six, Tom Brady nice. I admire consistency first
of all. I admire consistency and greatness at the same time.

(50:10):
Most of all, it's so hard to be consistent, impossible
to be consistently great. Now, that doesn't mean every year,
but dude won seven freaking Super Bowls. He's pretty consistent
that he was consistently in the mix to be in
the mix to win a title every year. So as

(50:31):
I'm watching him, I root it for Peyton Manning every
time they played each other. But as I've gotten older
in the light latter years of Tom Brady being an
adult and just seeing how consistent, how thorough he was
with the things that weren't even football, the eating, the training,
developing his own system for him the flight. Got to

(50:51):
admire that consistency is currency to me in every part
of my life. And so Tom Brady comes to at
number six for that. It's not even that I'm a fan.
I like the Patriots too when they were winning, not
that I was a Patriots fan, but I just admired
how they consistently cheated.

Speaker 5 (51:06):
Yeah they did.

Speaker 6 (51:07):
I think you're a different way. No one consistently won.

Speaker 5 (51:11):
Yeah, No, I I do like it.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
And they were always in the mix to be in
the mix even when they weren't, even when Brady goes
down and Castle goes in. Yeah, they didn't make the playoffs,
but it was the very last game of the season,
after they had already played, when they realized they didn't
make the playoffs, they had won eleven game. So Tom
Brady at number six. Our lists are so different again
because I don't have a team. Yeah, and minor for

(51:34):
like very personal, like human like the two left handed quarterbacks,
the Arkansas guy, and so far a lot of quarterbacks,
mostly quarterbacks. Two gets shown the most, Patrick Mahomes at
seven and I could put that back on the Brady.
That's the junior varsity Brady version of that. And I
like Patrick Mahomes two because his little belly, Yeah, now

(51:55):
he looks like it.

Speaker 7 (51:56):
Now.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
He looks like a warrior. I said this last year
when he lost, like you didn'tiss him off. He's going
to train this offseason and be physically better than he's
ever been. If you've seen pictures of him, have you, No,
I don't google that. Oh my god, he looks like
a soldier really, yeah, you know with.

Speaker 5 (52:14):
Their uniforms on now, with their rib pad thing you know,
around their other or other kind of like midsection kind
of makes them all look a little.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
It does, because that thing pokes out.

Speaker 5 (52:23):
A little bit.

Speaker 6 (52:23):
But that's more than others, I feel like for sure.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
But if you look at Patrick Mahomes now and you
see like his it's not even camp time, but it's
just off season workouts, you can tell physically he's been
motivated to be physical. Pretty wild. I love my homes
Ikey would's eight oh other Bengal in my bank, in
my Bengal days. I like that he would dance when
he's score touchdown, the shuffle that's all it was about.

(52:48):
Do you remember those are commercials? Like I don't know
the last question, ye'd like a Geico commercial or something.
I don't remember.

Speaker 5 (52:53):
But he's buying meat.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
Yeah, he would that guy.

Speaker 6 (52:56):
Yeah, he like drops a turkey or something, does something
like that.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
So, and that's only because when I like the Bengals,
he was the running back that danced and I liked that.

Speaker 6 (53:03):
That's cool, dude.

Speaker 5 (53:04):
And they used to wear these shoulder pads that were
so big. He looked like a monster coming at you as.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
A running back.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
Oh just wait for my number ten though, at number nine,
John Elway. And here's why he won at the end finally,
and I think that's pretty cool. He hung in there
and got himself a couple he went to yeah, back
to back, yeah, at the very end, right, and then
he walked out. He was like he's like I'm done.

(53:33):
Like he was the guy I remember he too, maybe
the first player that was drafted was like, I don't
want to go play for that team. I'll go play
for the Yankees and baseball. He was that kind of
athlete who who was the Broncos he got drafted by
well that's he didn't get drafted by the Broncosay, so
they ended.

Speaker 5 (53:46):
Up bolt Maybe dang, that's balls.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
Maybe feels like it's the cults.

Speaker 6 (53:53):
I think that would was still Baltimore and.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
He was saying, you can draft me, but I'm going
to go play baseball if you do. And that later
happened with Eli Manning and the Chargers when they drafted
the Eli Manning.

Speaker 7 (54:04):
Uh so, Yeah, it was a.

Speaker 6 (54:05):
Colts Baltimore colts Man.

Speaker 5 (54:07):
That quarterback class of like you know, Drew John Elway
and Dan Marino and eighty three Joe Montana like crazy.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
And at number ten Mike all Stott, nice big shoulder pads,
huge older pads, and a white guy who was a
running back and you didn't see many white guys are
running backs. You're like, that looks weird. Yep, You're like,
he can't be that fast, but he just ran through people.

Speaker 10 (54:30):
He was cool.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
Yeah, a white guy running back still looks funny.

Speaker 5 (54:33):
I'm like, I'm like, he hain'te that good, even even McCaffrey.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
Yeah, well McCaffrey, but even Arizona State. Oh yeah, yeah,
sattaboo skataboo. I'm like, I wouldn't draft him. He ain't
that good. He's white. I hold that he gets people.
I hope that he gets them running back to if
they're white, well they get part, get part, Yeah, Toby,
Toby like Minnesota to you.

Speaker 6 (54:52):
Yeah yeah, yeah uh so.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
And also Peyton Hillis who was on the Mountain, who
was on the cover of Madden but had like two
really good years like won me a Fantasy league or two.
Never forget it, and I would never.

Speaker 7 (55:05):
I thought it was awesome.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
Thought that was awesome. So that's fun. Who's your favorite
of all time?

Speaker 5 (55:09):
Kevin? Oh, come on, nah, I.

Speaker 11 (55:13):
Know you think probably Tom Brady the problem that's too
easy though, Like, honestly, my favorite football player of all
time is Randy Moss.

Speaker 6 (55:21):
I love Randy Moss.

Speaker 11 (55:22):
And when he came to the Patriots, I was so
happy because as a kid watching him, he was like
I remember being in the yard and be like, oh,
you just got Moss and I try to make a
catch over somebody.

Speaker 6 (55:30):
So Randy Moss was my favorite football player of all time.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
I mean, my kids still say you got Moss because
it's now a thing that they do on Sports Center.

Speaker 5 (55:38):
Yeah, but it's great because I mean I feel like
it'll last forever because My kids have no idea who
Randy Moss is, have no idea what he did, who
he played for. But whenever they get Moss, they're like,
oh you got Moss.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Yeah, I think even if you don't know Randy Moss existed,
that has now been turned into what that. It's like, Yeah,
you can't shoot a paperwad to the trash can without yelling, Oh,
even if you don't know, I think if I shoot
at the trash can, I just y'all, Kobe, I want
to play a club for you here. So NBA guard
I used to play. Jeremy Lamb was on this podcast

(56:13):
called Run Your Race. This is so interesting and so
Kevin Martin played for the thunder Kings. And what I
think is so interesting about him is that I didn't
know this un till I watched it. He kind of
was really good, but he didn't want to be too good.
And then I'm like, well, why is it gonna be

(56:33):
too good? Listen to this club again. This is Jeremy
Lamb talking about Kevin Martin.

Speaker 5 (56:37):
Back in the day, I got traded with what's the name.

Speaker 3 (56:40):
Kevin Martin says like the second quarter and say he
got like nineteen points he'll look up and be like,
I got too many points. I'm sitting there like, what
what do you mean? You got too many points? He like,
I got too many points. If I keep scoring, then
they gonna make me.

Speaker 5 (56:57):
An All Star.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
I want my time to myself.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
Hmm.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
I'm sitting there like what.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Yeah, because when you become the main guy, you got
a lot of obligations. He didn't want to go off
to do All Star Weekend a week He's like and
then they talked because he played with like Durant on
that okay Harden, Yeah, and he he would be scoring
a lot. It's like, ah, it's so unheard of. Yeah,
crazy wild. It feels like in other elements. The guy

(57:24):
that played Lincoln Mike, the method actor Daniel d Lewis. Yeah,
Like dude just goes and lives like small but even
as not even as an actor. He just like lives
in some small shock all the time, like get to
you know, he doesn't want to be so famous and
you can't call him by his real name.

Speaker 6 (57:40):
You have to call him Abraham Lincoln.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
Whenever he's method acting. But he doesn't want to be
so famous, so he doesn't do a lot of massive
thing he just really do his he's so good has
his career. He doesn't want to be so famous that
he if it gets in the way of his career
or he can't live a life because of his career
the way he likes to live it. Same thing here,
Kevin Martin, you know, want to.

Speaker 5 (58:01):
Be that good.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
He was that good, but he didn't want to be
so good that he would then have to lose his
time for All Star Weekend, would have to be the
face of the franchise, more photo shoots more so He's like,
I'm just gonna be so good that gets me through it.
I'm still considered a big part of the team, gonna
have a job, gonna get paid well. But I don't
want to be that good. I respect that you got
I respect it. I'm not that No. No, I'd rather

(58:25):
have the All Star label them all the money, and
I want to go do All Star Weekend. But even
the baseball players that we know, they would be like, man,
all Star game sucks. It's fun the first time because
you're like wow, but you just your body hurts, not
the time off. You just kind of don't want to
have to go do it, but you don't play lesser,
so you don't have to do it. But it's kind
of blown away by that. That's really that's pretty funny.

(58:49):
Does your kids watch any of the draft?

Speaker 5 (58:51):
Adding? It's awesome, dude. I'm so proud of my kids
because I feel like I'm raising them right. So as
they watched the draft, know, well, so my eleven year
old he loves the like he's the biggest Cowboys fan.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
He's just like me.

Speaker 5 (59:03):
And he had to go to a camp like a
school camp, and so he's like, Dad, please record the
draft for me. I'm gonna miss it. And they're like
an hour away from town or whatever. Well, last night
I got a text from one of the dads. He said, dude,
your son's a baller. He said, yeah, he's like, your
son's a baller. I'm like, what did he do? Is
he in trouble? He's like no, he got the whole

(59:24):
camp to sign off on watching the draft. So we're
all here watching the draft. My man, like all the
camp leaders are just like all right, we put it
on TV.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
Most proud dad moment is his son getting other kids
to watch the draft.

Speaker 5 (59:38):
I got a little tear, like that's my boy? Was
it for the Cowboys or was it just for the NFL.
Is he a Cowboys kid? He's a Cowboys kid. But
he wanted to watch the whole draft. He loves the
first round of the draft, every single pick.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
First round's fun, it was entertaining. I will not be
dedicated to watching the rest. I will check in with
the rest. I'll probably watch the first few picks of
the second round. The second round'll be fine because of
all the quarterbacks and running backs, like there's a we're
about to have a big quarterback, big running back run. Yeah,
there are no more linemen that Every line was drafted.
Every lineman was drafted. Thank you, guys. I hope you

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We have a good show planning for Monday too. Thanks
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