Daily Review With Clay and Buck - Jun 09 2025 - The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Monday edition Clay Travis Buck
Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us.
We're gonna have some fun, as we always do on
the show, but a little bit of a unique fun
for the next two weeks. I'm gonna be in our
iHeart studios by and large here in Washington, d C.

(00:22):
We're gonna be bringing in a lot of congressman, a
lot of Senators. We are going to be with President Trump,
Buck and I in the Oval Office. We're gonna head
out to the Pentagon. We're gonna be at Secretary of State.
We're gonna be all over the place in DC for
the next couple of weeks. So you may have no
idea who's gonna be on from one moment to the next,
but it should be really cool. We're obviously on here

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in d C in Freedom one oh four point seven,
but we have awesome studios here. If you've been to
d C, just down from Ford's Theater, just down from
the Arena, right in the center of Northwest Washington, d C.
Just a couple of blocks away from the Capitol, just
a couple of blocks away from the White House. In fact,
this morning I went up to Capitol Hill because I

(01:05):
have got my oldest son doing an internship, which is
the primary reason why I said, hey, let's go to
DC for a couple of weeks. So he is up
on Capitol Hill learning how the government works, and Dad
is in charge of him. Buck is stuck somewhere on
a tarmac, as many of you are aware, at thunderstorm season,
the worst time to be trying to travel anywhere. He

(01:26):
will be back with me tomorrow here in our DC studios,
and let me give you a little bit of roadmap
of where we're headed before I dive into this chaos
in Los Angeles and why I think it's so significant.
Marcia Blackburn and Tommy Tuberville, two senators, are going to
be with us in studio here in the third hour,
so you can put that on the horizon. We will
also be joined by Riley Gaines here at the bottom

(01:50):
of the hour. She works at out Kick alongside of me.
She is fabulous and out of nowhere. Olympic gymnast Simone
Biles ripped her for being two outspoken on keeping men
out of women's sports, and so Riley is going to
respond here on the show to that, So that will

(02:10):
be at the bottom of the hour. You guys can
be prepared for that. But I wanted to say, first
of all, hope you guys had fabulous weekends and we
are going to have like you can tell as I
just laid out a super pac show here on the
Monday edition of the program. But many of you, alongside
of certainly me, we're watching last night as unfortunately, we

(02:32):
had what felt like an echo of the summer of
twenty twenty emerging in Los Angeles. We had police cruisers
on fire. We had rocks and other projectiles being hurled
at police officers. We had five different Waymo vehicles. You
may remember I came on talking about how much I

(02:53):
loved riding in these autonomous vehicles waymos that have taken
over much of the travel in San Francisco, in La Phoenix.
I think a lot of you out there would be
riding in them as well. They're spreading across the country
very quickly. I had my oldest son with me in
San Francisco. He was super excited to ride in one.
I loved it. They were on fire in Los Angeles

(03:14):
and the cars were being graffited. People were waving the
flags of Mexico and other countries as they rioted against Ice.
And here's what I think is going on. I think
if you went back and maybe we'll talk about this
with President Trump Thursday in the Oval Office, I think
one of the things that Trump would say that he

(03:34):
learned in his first term in office was when violent
protests begin, you have to nip them in the bud immediately.
You cannot allow them to grow and spread and then
fester across the entire nation. And if you remember, in
the summer of twenty twenty, Tim Walls was the governor
of Minnesota responding to George Floyd. There is one hundred

(03:58):
percent should be one hundred percent openness for protest in
the United States. We should not ever allow violent protest.
And if you violently protest, whether you're a Democrat, Republican, independent,
whether you're a citizen or a non citizen, you should
be arrested and prosecuted I think to the full extent
of law. And we've been pretty consistent about that. Now.
That doesn't mean that you, as we saw in January sixth,

(04:21):
should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law,
and everybody else who was involved in the BLM protest
when they were trying to basically knock the fences down
at the White House, if you remember that well, when
they were attacking police like crazy. You should have no
charges brought based on the politics there, and every charge
brought based on the politics of January sixth. But if

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you are going to charge everyone, regardless of political backgrounds
to the utmost stability for violence, I'm in favor of it.
I've been in favor of it my entire life, while
also being one hundred percent a First Amendment guy. I'm
banned from CNN as many if you remember, for saying
the only two things that have never let me down
are the First Amendment and boobs in a eight year

(05:05):
old viral clip that continues to be one of the
most popular clips. Every few months, it's circulating again, and
every new generation is becoming aware of it in a
positive way. By the way, they like it even more
the younger kids do, and I think that's because younger
men in particular are over the BS. So I think
what Trump learned from the first administration is you have

(05:29):
to stop these protests and not allow them to spiral
and grow, particularly because this is not a real protest,
it's astro turfed. They bring in professional protesters who want
to riot, who want to frankly, take away from whatever honest,
peaceful protest is trying to be made, and they turn

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many parts of American cities into violent cesspools. They burn
down buildings, they attack cars, they attack police. And so
this is what we started to see happen in Los
Angeles last night. And before I start playing some of
the clips from what happened last night, one bit of positivity.
I have not heard it talked about very much, but

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murder rates in this country are collapsing all over the
country because Trump has committed to giving police the ability
to execute from a law and order perspective, and I'm
not hearing a lot of people talk about it. And yes,
murder rates do go up in the summer, Frankly, I

(06:34):
think it's because kids are out of school, people have
more time. But all over the country we are seeing
twenty twenty five crime collapse. In fact, we could have
potentially the lowest murder rate in the US ever recorded
based on how much murder rates are collapsing in this

(06:56):
country again. Trump took office, law order has been on
the upswing, and we are seeing massive declines in murder
rates all over the country. And it's not getting a
lot of attention. But let me just hit you with this.
Through May of twenty twenty five from last year, just

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from last year, murder rates in New York City down
twenty seven percent. In murder rates in Chicago down twenty
four percent. Murder rates in Saint Louis down thirty five percent,
Denver sixty three percent decline, Baltimore thirty two percent decline,
Cleveland thirty seven percent decline, New Orleans thirty one percent decline.

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It doesn't matter what the blue city is. A little
bit of red state law and order being applied makes
everybody safer. It's not getting a lot of attention, but
this is an incredible success story. And so what Trump
and his team saw is they said, we're not going
to elas the chaos that happened in twenty twenty to

(08:03):
take over the country again. And sadly, the people who
ended up losing the most were the people who had
to deal with the rates of violence overwhelmingly black and
brown in this country. As the BLM protest led to
a decline in law and order. So Trump says, hey,
I'm going to bring in the National Guard. We're going

(08:23):
to provide even more protection than we did in twenty twenty.
We're not going to allow history to repeat itself. Now,
this is LA's police chief, Jim McDonell. This is cut
six last night, saying it's out of control what we
are seeing, the violence. This is cut six.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
The National Guard was federalized, so they're working for the
US Army, not for the California State National Guard.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
Do we need them?

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Do we need them?

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Well, looking at it tonight, you know this thing has
gotten out of control. What they're I think before I
could answer that, I'd have to know more about what
their capabilities are, what their role is intended to be
to be able to make that determination.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Okay, when the police chief says it's out of control,
that's a sign that probably he wants the National Guard
in that he doesn't feel like he has enough resources.
But I bet that this guy doesn't want to step
on Gavin Newsom, governor of California, and Karen Bass, the
mayor of LA, who are doing awful jobs. And here

(09:31):
is Tom Homan saying, protest all you want, but if
you touch law enforcement, it's a crime. Cut eight.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
For those protests that cross the line. I've said many
times you can protest, you get your first point of rights,
but when you cross that line, you put hands on
my soft shirt, or you destroy property, or I say
that you're peed law enforcement, or you're normally heart reck
consuming in halan, that's a crime, and that the trumpministration
is not what tolerant you cross that line. We want
to see prosecute through partner justice.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Okay. Police chief says violence out of control. He also
says that you just heard Tom Holman saying We're not
going to allow this to happen. Here is Tom Holman
saying the violence is escalating, getting worse, more violent.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Cut seven to the people who are not happy with
the fact that ICE is in the community doing what
ICE does?

Speaker 5 (10:20):
You know?

Speaker 2 (10:20):
It's I respect ICE for being a fellow law enforcement agency.
They have their mission, they have their what they have
to do. We don't engage in that activity, but again
we can't preclude them from doing that.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
They have every right to do that.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
This violence that I've seen is disgusting. It's escalated now
since the beginning of this incident. What we saw the
first night was bad. What we've seen subsequent to that
is getting increasingly worse and more violent. Tonight, we had
individuals out there shooting commercial grade fireworks at our officers.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
That can kill you. Okay, Trump says, look, they spit,
we hit this cut one. Listen, I have a little statement.

Speaker 6 (11:03):
They say, they spin, we hit. I told them nobody's
gonna spit on our police officers.

Speaker 7 (11:11):
Nobody's gonna spit on our military.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Okay. So that is the background. Now you watch the
images yourself. There are cars burning, police cars burning. They
are being attacked police officers. Listen to what you heard
if you were on ABC News in La. This is
Mark Brown. He wants you to know. Look, this is

(11:37):
just a lot of people who want to have fun
watching cars burn. It's not a riot. This is what
this dude really said on ABC News.

Speaker 8 (11:45):
Listen to cut four large group of people. It could
turn very volatile if you move law enforcement in there
and the wrong way and turn what is just a
bunch of people having fun watching cars burn into a
massive confrontation and altercation between officers and demonstrators.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Excuse me, a bunch of people having fun watching cars burn.
They're not pulling out skewers and making s'mores in the
backyard with the family. That's having fun watching a fire burn.
This is attacking people all over the city. Do you
think those cops were like, man, they're just having fun
watching the cars burn while molotov cocktails are raining down

(12:26):
on them from the overpass, which is what I saw
happening last night. Imagine you're watching ABC News. How does
that dude have a job. They're just having a There's
a bunch of people having fun watching cars burn. Yeah,
that's kind of yeah, that's kind of what a riot is.
And also on CNN, Brian Stelter humpting himself, he wanted

(12:46):
you to know, most of La is fine. Uh, this
is cut three of it. Let me just say this too.
By the way, when La was burning, it wasn't the
entire city. Do you think people would have been happy
if you come on and you say, hey, yeah, there's
lots of people losing their homes, they're burning down. Most
of the city's not getting hit. I live in Tornado

(13:06):
Alley and a large extent in Nashville. Tornadoes come through,
they wipe out people's homes. Do you think if I
came on the day after a tornado and I was like, Hey,
just so, y'all know, most of the city didn't get
hit by the tornado, so we don't really need to
consider it a major issue. Of course not. But this
was Stelter on CNN saying, hey, it's really pretty isolated.

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The riots cut three.

Speaker 9 (13:32):
On one level, protests are always about images, about spectacle.
You might even say it's about theater, and we are
seeing that play out in La and I think it's
valuable to have that perspective as we see some of
these pictures, especially as we zoom out, and we recognize
that the unrest is isolated, is not overtaking the entire
city of La La is home to millions of people.

(13:52):
Most of them are having a normal day here on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Oh yeah, the tornado. It just killed some people. Most
people are still that hurricane. Boy, you know, it didn't
hit most of Florida. It just hit part of Florida.
I mean, this is crazy, but that is what they
are trying to do to minimize Again, I think the
big story here is Trump one point zero and everybody
surrounding him saw what happened in the summer of riots
that led to I believe thousands of additional murders because

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suddenly police couldn't do their job, and they are saying,
we're not gonna let the nation's second largest city, Los Angeles,
spiral out of control. By the way, a lot of
you in La listening to us. Now we have a
huge audience. You can weigh in and let us know
what you're seeing and what you think of the response
so far. And isn't it always interesting? Isn't always interesting
how the rioters, the looters and the protesters they never

(14:42):
do this when it's cold, Like they're never willing to
be out in the streets when it's twenty five degrees. Now,
I know LA's warm all the time, but it isn't
it amazing that they wait till the weather's perfect. It
has to be the summer. It has to be. When
it's not, you're not gonna be out in the streets shivering.
And and it's amazing they never really seem to hit

(15:02):
the bookstores, and they never really seem to do it
early in the morning. It's kind of interesting how it
all happens late at night, isn't it? And how it's
only like the best buy and the foot locker that
gets hit Barnes and Noble. I was at Barnes Noble
last night. Barnes and Noble never looted or rioted in
the history of mankind. Nobody's like, hey, we can get
a really great deal. In the Harry Potter books right now,

(15:24):
they don't seem to be big readers the looters and
the rioters, despite the fact that they say that they
are trying to make a larger statement. So we'll take
some of your calls. We'll dive in again. Riley Gain's
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Gain's gonna join us. President Trump first has weighed in
on LA and the riots as we opened the show
talking about, we made a great decision sending in the

(17:39):
National Guard to deal with the violent instigated riots in California.
If we had not done so, Los Angeles would have
been completely obliterated. The very incompetent governor quotation Mars Gavin
Newsom and mayor quotation marks Karen Bass should be saying
thank you, President Trump, you are so wonderful. We would
be nothing without you, sir. Instead, they choose to lie

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to the people of California and America by saying we
weren't needed and that these were just quote peaceful protests.
Just one luck at the pictures and videos of the
violence and destruction tells you all you have to know.
We will always do what is needed to keep our
citizen safe so we can together make America great again.
A woman who was trying to simply make women's sports

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great again by doing something crazy and saying only women
should be able to play in women's sports. My friend
Riley Gaines joins us now and Riley we were texting
quite a bit over the weekend, but full disclosure, I
was out to dinner with my family. I had my
mother in law, my brother in law, and you sent
me the link and I thought, this can't be real.

(18:44):
There's no way that Olympic gymnasts Simone Biles, out of
nowhere just decided to rip you for simply saying, hey,
there shouldn't be a male pitcher winning a Minnesota Softball
Women's Championships title. And I still have a disbelief that
this happened. What was your reaction when you first saw

(19:06):
this when it popped up on your social media.

Speaker 10 (19:08):
Feeds, Well, Clay, you were the very first person I
sent it to. I saw it pretty immediately, which is
pretty rare. I have my notifications off on X right,
like things don't typically pop up, but I think it
bypasses if someone mentions you or retweets or quotes you
and they have a certain number of followers. And so
I got this notification that said Simone Biles has tagged

(19:29):
you in a tweet, and I was honestly like starstruck
in that moment. I was I couldn't believe it. This
is a woman I publicly called on prior to this,
maybe a year or two ago, to stand with women,
not me personally, but just stand with the movement of
protecting women and girls in sports. So I click on it,
and Clay, I was It took me a minute. I

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had to go back and forth to the profile several
times and make sure this was not a fake account.
But no, lo and behold, this was the real Simone
Biles following me, a bully for defending women and girls
in sports. Even still, just like you said, I'm in
total disbelief that in the year twenty twenty five, this

(20:11):
is the stance that Simone Biles has chosen to take.
I think the response would have been a lot different
if this was in twenty twenty twenty one, maybe even
twenty twenty two. But to say this now, I just can't,
for the life of me, understand why she would do this.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
So the attack was crazy on that, But then she
also came after you over your body, which is like,
first of all, all athletes have, particularly as you become
Olympic champions. Sometimes bodies that are different, right like Michael
Phelps does not look like a normal human. It's one

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reason why he's such an incredible swimmer Simone Biles is
not a quote normal sized human. It's one reason why
she can throw her body all over the place in
a women's at gymnastics, And so she's actually done body
positivity ads to try to make women and I think
boys too, more comfortable with their bodies. And so the

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first thought when she attacked you that I had was
Riley's like the most average and I don't mean this
in a negative way, but you're actually the most average
sized girl out there, right, So my first thought was,
I mean, there's anything wrong with like a six foot
four woman or whatever you're And then I love you
made a video because my first thought was, like, Riley's
not even abnormally sized, but she was trying to ridicule you,

(21:36):
and she did it claiming that you are male size.
So that is even maybe crazier than the first tweet
she said.

Speaker 10 (21:43):
It is by far crazier for a couple of reasons.
Number one because when she said this right, like fully
someone your own size, which would ironically be a man,
The first thing I thought of was this is this
is so hilarious because she's understanding and recognizing that men
and women are physically bio logically categorically different, right, Like,
like she just admitted that in this sea that I

(22:04):
think was meant to be an insult. But then of
course number two, yeah, to come from my body. First
of all, I'm five foot five, I mean relatively standard.
I think anyone would be a giant next to someone
who's like four foot eight, right, I think Simone Biles
is Yeah, I'm so standard sized. I'm like one hundred
and thirty one hundred and thirty five pounds. So it

(22:24):
took me a while to even make sense on this.
I'm like, is she calling me tall? Is she saying
I'm muscular? Is she saying I'm like, I didn't even
equate in my brain for a little bit. But I
will tell you the response that she has received from this.
I mean it's it's been the number one trending thing
on Twitter prior to the La riots, of course, which

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is just terrific and an utter shame that this is
happening in our country. It was a number one trending
thing on Twitter for for I mean two days straight,
even on TikTok. Every TikTok video that pops up on
my for you page? Is someone coming for Simone Biles
for coming for me and for my body. Again, a
woman who has has historically made a platform a larger

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platform for herself outside of her athletic success, for I mean,
praising women and their muscular bodies and the purpose that
they can serve. But nonetheless she has shown her true
colors here. I believe.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
Well, I love that you posted a video with your
husband Louis, who is also awesome and was a swimmer
at the University of Kentucky where he actually measured you
and your slock feet. I'm presuming that was in the
front room of your home, which is really really funny,
but it also, just to me epitomizes the crazy hypocrisy

(23:40):
of her. To your point, yes, acknowledging bully someone on
your own size. Hey, there is a difference between men
and women, because that's oftentimes said, and so she's acknowledging
that even while she's trying to do it. So what
is the motivation here? I'm sure in some measure you
set back and you're like, yes, she has been thankful

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obliterated by people from across the the athletic spectrum for
what she did. Why did she do it? Where did
this come from?

Speaker 10 (24:11):
This is what I've been trying to figure out. I've
seen a couple of different series, and I've actually had
several Team USA gymnasts, both men and women, actually tons
of Olympians across the board, all kinds of different sports.
So every shout I will disclose any names, but several
have told me privately that this was an attempt to

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put her name back in the spotlight prior to a
Netflix docu series that is to come out called Simon.
I think it's called Simone Rising or something of that nature,
which what a what a hilarious thing. Simone Bile's allegedly
feeling like she means to get back into the spotlight,
and she does it by criticizing me insane, So that

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number one could potentially be a possibility. Some people are
saying they don't think this was really her, as a
management company or someone who runs her her social media
who posted this. Some people are saying she's been paid
to post this. That now posted receipts of her linked
with a certain like activist based organization that's in the
forty fifty million dollars and she's been tied to them.

(25:17):
So I have no idea. I cannot again I just
can't and with a sound mind, think she did this
because she actually believes it being an elite gymnast. I mean,
you look at men's and women's gymnastics. They're not even
the same sport essentially, Like you have palm of horse
and rings on the men's you don't have that with

(25:39):
the women. You don't have beam. Men don't compete on beam, right,
Like they're totally different sports essentially. I cannot believe that
she actually thinks this, So I guess the motive. The
motive is still in the up in the air.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Yeah. And by the way, let me say this because
my wife was a very good gymnast, and I think
she came in fifth in the state Michigan as a senior.
That's pretty good. And she has argued for years if
men did the women's contests, men would be way better
at them than the women are. And to your point, Riley,

(26:13):
most women can't even do a lot of the things
that the men do right, like the rings, for instance,
Most women wouldn't have the upper body strength to be
able to do the things that men do. There. That's
not an attack on women's gymnastics. It's just that for
people who don't do those things men would be able
to do, for instance, the floor routine or the vault

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or all these things, the ring the uneven bars better
than women do them because they're bigger, stronger, and faster.
That would translate even to gymnastics. I didn't know that. Again,
this is my wife analyzing it. Who does this stuff
at a high level or used to anyway, So she's
gotten attacked. I also think this is important. She waited

(26:55):
until her career was over, and you have talked about this.
Meghan Rappino did the same thing, the US women's soccer player.
You have seen women retire and then say, oh, I'm
fine with men going into women's sports. It's like they're
yanking the ladder up. I give credit. It's amazing. Jk Rowling.

(27:16):
Have you ever met jk Rowling? By the way, the
Harry Potter author, I have.

Speaker 10 (27:20):
Never met jk Rowling. Of course she lives overseas, but
we've been able to communicate back and forth on X
maybe some other platforms. She's incredible the way that she
had everything to lose. Yes, most people think she has
nothing to lose because she's already made her career. She
had everything to lose, yet it didn't matter to her.

(27:42):
It still doesn't matter to her, even she came out
with a pretty fiery tweet, Yes I directed towards some
own Biles. So she's to me a modern day civil
rights heroin.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
I love her, And to your point, I read the
Harry Potter books back in the day. She's a billionaire.
She had no reason to need to an athlete to
speak out against the transagenda. She just saw it as
fundamentally a lie and wasn't willing to continue to tell
a lie. And so when you see Simone Biles, Megan Rapino,
your athletic career is now over and you are fighting

(28:15):
for your sister or other girls who might come after you,
for instance, to be able to compete only against women.
Isn't it uniquely awful and indefensible for highly successful female athletes,
who made tens of millions of dollars off of their
athletic talents, to suddenly come out in favor of men
and women's sports when they never are going to have

(28:36):
to compete against them themselves.

Speaker 10 (28:39):
It's the definition of pulling up the ladder behind you.
That's exactly what Meghan Repino has done. That's exactly what
Simone Biles has now done. It's why. Look, like I said,
I publicly called on It was like this little campaign
thing I did maybe a year a year and a
half two years ago at this point, where I publicly
called on current elite male athletes in various different sports,

(29:01):
Caitlin Clark being one of them too, to stand with
women and just simply say that men should not be
in women's sports. I called them Serena Williams and if
you can remember she said on David Letterman in twenty thirteen,
I mean basically she already said it, but that was
before I guess it was bigoted or transphobic to say it.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
But not a.

Speaker 10 (29:20):
Single woman, not at least the ones that I've called on,
have chosen to respond in any manner. I mean, it's
been total silence. Crickets tried the same thing with men
on the other hand, but a totally different response. I
have male athletes, people like Bronk right, who come out
and say, yeah, men shouldn't be one in sports. Easy

(29:40):
to say that, right, Not really in my fight we
had several who said, you know, this is kind of
up to the women's handle, but yeah, this is crazy
I think it speaks to, of course, the physical differences
that are very obvious that people can see and observe
between men and women. But even just this little campaign
proved that men and women are inherently different in our

(30:01):
characteristics and how we approach things, and how women are
more emotionally driven and apologetic and empathetic and men are
typically more assertive, and that was made very clear in
this campaign we did. But yeah, Megan Raupino also important
to mention she's not interested in men. Therefore it is unlikely.

(30:22):
I know, she can still adopt or whatever options are
out there for her and her wife, Sue Bird, But
Megan Repino's not gonna have kids, so for her, she
has nothing on the line right Like she's done with
her career. She's not gonna have a daughter of her own.
She doesn't care. It's totally an attempt to virtue signal
be seen as this inclusive figure for all, but in reality,

(30:43):
what you're doing is being exclusive to women.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
You have been so outspoken like Riley Gains. How much
do you let me mention this because I think people
might have missed it, But you had a man when
two different women's track titles in California had a man
win in Washington. The impetus for Simone Bile's reaction here
was a man was the star pitcher on a Minnesota

(31:08):
softball state champion team. And I think the initial comment
that she was responding to was you sharing the fact
that in Minnesota they had turned the comments off on
the team photo which showed the boy way taller than
everybody else on the team. How much do you think
the conversation has changed as oh, this never happens when

(31:32):
you got California, Washington, and Minnesota all in the space
of basically a week with state championships being won by
men pretending to be women.

Speaker 10 (31:42):
Yeah, well, important to mention just last week, as you said,
this happened in five states Minnesota, California, Washington, Oregon, and
Maine where boys soul state qualifying spots, state championships or
podium spots from I mean deserving, hard working girls. So
five blue states that that you, I mean, the whole

(32:04):
it doesn't really happen argument. It can't stand at all
when it continues to happen. But that's the classic progression
of these issues is, well it doesn't happen, so we
don't have to worry about it. You know, you're you're
looking for a solution in search of a problem. That
that's step one, right, I think that was. That was
when I was competing, That was twenty twenty two. It
never really happens. Then it slowly shifts to you, Okay,

(32:25):
well it is happening, but it's not happening a lot,
therefore we shouldn't be concerned about this. Then it progresses too, Okay,
well it's happening, and here's why. It's a good thing
that it's happening. And then I think the final stage
of it is it's happening, it's a good thing, and
you're going to accept it or else. Again. That's that's
the classic progression, not just with this issue, but a

(32:46):
lot of these fringe cultural issues. That's why now you're
seeing what's happening in La happened.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
It's it's the.

Speaker 10 (32:52):
Same progression, but now the whole it's not really happening thing.
It just doesn't stand. And to acknowledge how the blick
has has shifted to this again, look at someone biles
comments section, go on Instagram, go on Twitter, go on
on any article that's being posted, go on TikTok, and
she is getting absolutely demolished, to the point where I

(33:13):
almost feel bad for her, Like I really do have
reading these comments and like, oh my gosh, Like I
was prepared when I got that notification Clay on my
phone for that onslought of hatred to come towards me,
Like I was like, oh gosh, like she's going to
send all of her little little you know, minion people
who follow her over to my page. That is not
at all what has happened. I haven't read a single

(33:33):
negative comment about myself following this interaction, But you compare
that to twenty twenty two totally different response from the public.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
Riley, keep up the fight. I appreciate you making time
for us today and boy, who knows what's the next,
but every day is a wild card and someone bile
stepped in it in a big way. Love your response
and thanks for coming on with us. I think we
may have lost her there at the end, but I
promised that she likes all of you, and she was

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Speaker 1 (36:09):
You're up in Washington, d C. For the next couple
of weeks. Buck is going to join me tomorrow. He's
in the process of trying to get up here. He's
not gone smoothly. I'm sitting in studio right now with
Senator Marsha Blackburn from Tennessee, and I'm up here because
my son is going to be doing an internship, and
this is an intern season for so many different offices

(36:32):
out there. Do you remember the first time you came
to d C. I know you end up here for
a while. What do you remember about that? What?

Speaker 5 (36:38):
Hell?

Speaker 3 (36:38):
You know?

Speaker 5 (36:39):
I was in high school and it was a four
h club leadership summit and it was absolutely so exciting
to me and to come up and to have lunch
with my senator and get that photo and you know
what fun.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
What do you think young Marsha Blackburn on that four
h trip would have thought if you had told her, hey,
one day you're going to be a congresswoman and a
senator yourself. Do you think you would have believed it?
Were you interested in politics at that age?

Speaker 5 (37:13):
I was very involved. Yes, I thought that good citizenship
was important and we even as I was cleaning out
some things one day I found a flyer I had
done and distributed to all my neighbors as part of
a citizenship project, reminding them to go vote and the
importance of going to vote. But never would I have

(37:37):
thought I would have been an elective office. But you know,
that's just one of those things I tell young people
all the time. Be ready to walk through open doors
and realize you don't chart your path, God charts your path.
And to be mindful and to accept those open doors.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
What did you think last night when you saw the
footage from Los Angeles out of control?

Speaker 5 (38:04):
These men and women that are there trying to get
these criminal illegal aliens. Why in the world would you
have a mayor and a governor that are siding and
trying to protect criminal illegal aliens and to obstruct ice
and keep them from doing their job. And you know,

(38:25):
I Clay, you talk to so many people when you're
on the air every day. I'm not hearing from people
that want to keep criminal illegal aliens. Look at what
is happening in Nashville. And this is not a partisan issue.
This is a ninety percent issue. And people will say,
if they are criminals, they need to be removed. Let's

(38:50):
remove these individuals. And people realize that coming across that
border illegally is a crime. And of course we isis
out there doing their job. We are a nation that
is built on the rule of law, and it is

(39:10):
imperative that these officials implement and bide by the law.
If they don't like the law, they can try to
change the law, but it is there are set procedures
for entering the country legally. There are statutes that determine
what is and is not a crime, and whether it's

(39:35):
a felony or a misdemeanor. And to have people that
want to pick and choose and say we're going to
enforce this, but we're not going to enforce that, and
a sanctuary for this but not for that.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
This is.

Speaker 5 (39:50):
What really spurs a lot of the chaos that you're
seeing take place in places like LA.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
It's not just La either, because I hear from some
people and I know we've got a lot of people
listening in California, but they say, oh, that's just a
blue city there. What do I care. We live in
a red state. You and me one of my senators,
and I'm glad that you are, and maybe more here
in a little bit. But when you see what's happening
in Nashville, because I think a lot of people out
there say, okay, state Tennessee very red. There's a mayor,

(40:20):
Freddie O'Connell in a city of Nashville who has basically said, hey,
we're going to try to stop ice from doing their work.
This has become a big talking point many cities all
over the place. First, you have got a bill called
the Remove Act that would take from ninety days down
to fifteen days to help expedite the removal of people

(40:40):
who shouldn't be in this country. So that is something
you're doing directly to try to help the president. But
when you see a city like Nashville, when you see
someone making the choices that the mayor there is making,
that Karen bass is making in Los Angeles, to directly
defy the president's authority, can you believe it?

Speaker 3 (40:57):
It is difficult to believe.

Speaker 5 (40:59):
And this is why removing these criminal, illegal aliens is
a ninety percent issue and people want them to be
taken out of the country. And the other thing is
the doxing. This is something that happened in Nashville and
you had the mayor and his office that actually exposed

(41:23):
the names of HSI investigators and also of our ice
agents and their operations. Now you cannot do that and
exposing that. We found out that it is not illegal
to reveal the name of a law enforcement officer. It

(41:47):
is illegal when they're undercover and you reveal their information.
So my preventing law enforcement doxing that legislation we've also
filed to include law enforcements who are implementing the law

(42:07):
in that so that we can protect our law enforcement
officers at the local, state.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
And federal level.

Speaker 5 (42:13):
It should be illegal to dox them, whether they're undercover
or out doing their regular job. And what we see
happening with this obstruction is people are saying, why the
Democrats choosing to.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
Die on this hill?

Speaker 5 (42:32):
Why are they absolutely making this their issue number one
when this is something that people overwhelmingly support. Get them
removed from the country. Protect law enforcement, don't dox them,
don't go put their pictures up, don't go put their

(42:52):
home address, don't endanger their families. People want to show
respect for law enforcement.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
Department of Justice investigating what Nashville has happened. You've asked
for that, Yes, Pam Bondi's the attorney general. What do
you expect that investigation to be, like, how should it be?

Speaker 5 (43:09):
You know, I'm sure they will have something to say
about this.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
Sent the letter over.

Speaker 5 (43:15):
I have requested that they formalize an investigation, and I
would expect that at some point we will hear from that.
You do have the Homeland Security Committee in the House,
which is chaired by Representative Green out of Tennessee. Yes,
and also the Judiciary Committee in the house. They have

(43:38):
started an investigation and looking at what happened with obstructing
these raids.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
Were you a studd I mean, you've lived in the
state of Tennessee and in the Nashville area, as have
I for a very long time. And look, sometimes mayors
are good, sometimes mayors are bad, particularly as it pertains
to any big city that you might have in a state.
I was stunned when I saw the mayor of Nashville,
Freddie O'Connell, engaging in this behavior and having a press
conference to brag about it. Were you as stunned as

(44:08):
I was?

Speaker 5 (44:09):
I was stunned. I couldn't believe that there would be
a defiance of removing criminals. You know, one of the
top issues when you talk to people in Middle Tennessee
and West Tennessee crime they talk about the escalated occurrence
of criminal acts. Carjackings, particularly home.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
Robbery, had one of the high violent crime rates in
the whole nation, right, And.

Speaker 5 (44:38):
So it has stunned people that Nashville had a mayor
that would come out and would choose to protect criminal,
illegal aliens over law abiding citizens. When people have been
saying we've got to get the crime down, they've been
really unsettled by the number of home rob yes that

(45:01):
have taken place and the number of gangs that have
moved into the Nashville area. I have not talked to
a single person who wants to have more Trenda or
Agua or MS thirteen in their community.

Speaker 3 (45:14):
I mean, not one. They want them gone.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
They should be gone. We're talking to Senator Marsha Blackburn
of Tennessee, Okay, in particular. Now, Big Beautiful Bill is underway. Yes,
you are in the Senate majority fifty three Republicans. I'm
sure you like everybody else, saw Elon and Trump going
back and forth. Elon says there's not enough cutting of

(45:41):
spending that's going on. This is past the House. President
Trump says, Hey, we're going to create incredible growth rate.
We're going to put in place all these tax cuts
for years and years ago, because otherwise they expire. What
should we know about the Big Beautiful Bill? What should
the timeframe be? There's a ton of deal with the
border as well, which would help to ideally keep some

(46:01):
other president like Biden from wide opening the border again
to allow people to pour in. What's the latest? What
should we know? What's the time for us, yes, and.

Speaker 5 (46:10):
We are hopeful to have it to the President by
July fourth, so that we've got that true independence today
and we know that this is a tax cut bill.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
It is kind of tax cut and jobs at two.

Speaker 5 (46:23):
Point zero, and we will make those tax cuts permanent.
We're also trying to make permanent R and D bus
bonus appreciation, interest expensing because we've got a lot of
small businesses in Tennessee. Ninety three percent of our jobs
are small business jobs in the state and that's important

(46:46):
to them. Also provisions for no tax on tips over
time and social Security, and that is my legislation to
remove the tax from social Security for our seniors. In
the process of negotiating those, we're finalizing some of those provisions.
We want to get permanence on these provisions. That's how

(47:11):
you get that extended growth that will run out past
ten years. So we'd like not to be back at
the negotiating table. In businesses and individuals, tennesseeans tell me
all the time, just tell me what the rules are
and I'll play by the rules. But we don't like
this changing everything, and especially when we have so many

(47:33):
small businesses, mom and pops, small business manufacturing businesses on
our main streets. We need some permanents.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
We've had Senator Ron Johnson on the show. He says
more spending needs to be cut. We've had Ran Paul
On saying the same thing. Are you optimistic that the
Senate is going to be able to come to us?

Speaker 3 (47:52):
Yes, sir, I am.

Speaker 5 (47:54):
The House did one and a half trillion in spending reductions.
The Senate won't say two trillillion dollar reduction. And we've
got a pathway.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
To do that. Now.

Speaker 5 (48:05):
The Doge cuts are they have to come to us
through omb from the White House, and then that is
going into what is called a recision bill, So we
can't put those into the reconciliation the tax bill.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
They've got to travel separately. Kind of.

Speaker 5 (48:25):
It's the same time we got the first package of those.
It's nine billion dollars, which over a ten billion a
ten year period, you're talking about significant savings.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
Last question for you, I think the key to all
this is growth. There's a guy who lives in the
Nashville area. You're kind of smart. Come on, yeah, he
makes this case, but I think it's one that is
being missed a little bit. And I want to give
you an opportunity. But if we get the growth of
the economy to three percent or more, which I think

(48:56):
we will, then we are going to actually start to
cut the deficit.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
That's correct.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
It's really important because the CBO, and there's all these
numbers that are running around out there, all of it's
predicated the projections on what the growth rate of the
country is. If we get to three percent, then the
national debt starts getting paid down, and the President's focused
on growth more than cuts. Ideally you get both, but growth,

(49:23):
to a large extent, according to people like Art Laugher,
is the most important thing that is accurate.

Speaker 5 (49:28):
And bear in mind CBO is always wrong on their projections.
They have been wrong every single time. They were wrong
on the twenty seventeen cuts. And so you do want
to reduce spending and you want to get that growth.
And President Trump had the Senate Finance Republicans at the

(49:50):
White House last week to work on some of this
with him, the Vice President, Secretary Besson, and Kevin Hassett.
And one of the things we know is that if
you are growing, if you put these cuts in place,
and it's the largest tax cut, and you get permanence

(50:11):
on R and D and expensing and depreciation. Then you
are going to see that because you will have your
small businesses choose to grow, yes, and to hire and
to expand. That is how you get that growth. And
the multiplier effect on that is so significant.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
And not only that. COVID hit right as Trump's economy
was exploding right January of twenty twenty February of twenty
twenty probably the greatest economic season we've ever had. Correct
and then COVID happened, and suddenly everything goes off the rails.
We get that rolling again by twenty twenty four, twenty
twenty eight, in the next election cycle, we should be

(50:57):
firing on all silly.

Speaker 5 (50:59):
That is accurate, and we are looking forward to having
this permanence. And then bear in mind too, in twenty seventeen,
when we did the Tax Cut and Jobs Act, the
biggest benefactor of those changes were your small businesses. You

(51:20):
saw such an explosion of small business manufacturing, and this
was so good for Tennessee. We had a lot of
businesses that had been there for years that this was
their chance to grow, so they jumped to that level.
And now they are waiting to hire, They are waiting
to invest. They're waiting to punch send on those equipment

(51:45):
orders because they want to be able to depreciate that
in that first year or two and then move into upgrades.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
Senator Marshall Blackburn with us by the way, just walking
in behind you, one of your senate colleague, Senator Tommy Tubberville,
to be governor colleagues before long two.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
Timmy Tubberville is a great guy. We call him coach.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
Yeah, he's going to be on with us here at
just a second. Senator Marshall Blackburn, thank you. Keep up
the good work and we look forward to celebrating the
big beautiful bill is done.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
You got it.

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DC area for a couple of weeks and we're having
people in studio with us to talk about everything under
the sun. You just heard from Senator Marshall Blackburn at Tennessee,
and now you got a guy who's a senator and
also soon to be a governor, Tommy Tupperville. I know
you made the announcement. It was the last week I was.
I was on a vacation with my kids running around

(53:47):
at Universal Studios, so I know you were on with
Buck but we'll dive into all that here in a moment.
But also, I know you are a monster football fan.
They had a big decision about twenty and a half
million dollars to spend. I bet you still talk to
a lot of coaches. I do too. Did you ever
think that we'd end up in this situation where guys

(54:08):
are basically holding out every few months and saying, Hey,
unless I get ex coach, I'm not going to play
for you. I know the Senate it's not easy, but
do a part of you feel a little bit sorry
for some of these coaches what they have to deal
with on a day to day basis.

Speaker 6 (54:20):
It's a killer that's just gonna run a lot of
people out. Obviously Nick didn't. He didn't last long. He
got out. And when you can't control your destiny. And
Nick and I and a lot of my buddies I
grew up with, we learned from from good people. Yeah,
Jimmy Johnson, you bring in two three stars nobody ever
heard of, and you build a football team.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
You can't do that anymore.

Speaker 6 (54:43):
It's not about building a team, it's not about loyalty,
and it's not about education. The three things that it
should be about it's totally gotten away from that and
out it's about money. And I'm fine with them making money.
I've always thought they should make money. It's a full
time job. And but there's really it's hard to make

(55:03):
a plan for it. When you've got six hundred athletes,
half of them are women and then the other half
most of them are Olympic sports and men's sports non revenue.
You have two sports. You know, basketball really doesn't make
any money. Everybody said, well, men's basketball at one or
two schools might make money them. They're lucky to break even.
They spend a lot of money. The only only one

(55:25):
that makes money is the big stadium football teams. And
of course now the TV contracts have gotten huge. But yeah,
twenty zero point five million to spread around on each team. Now,
you don't have to get involved in that, you know that, Clay, Yeah,
you can opt out and say, listen, we don't have
the money to do it. And that's what's going to
happen to seventy percent. They don't have the money to
do that.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
Right. We're talking to Senator Tommy Tuberville. Next year he'll
be governor Tommy Tuberbowl, which will be an interesting transition.
Why what's the role that as Alabama governor was so
attractive to you? Next year, you'll, I think, you know,
go ahead and make a prediction be the next governor
for Alabama. What do you want to do.

Speaker 6 (56:05):
Well, I'm a builder, as I was a football coach,
and up here you're one of one hundred, and you
can do a lot of good for your state and
the country. It's really watered down. It runs at a
slow pace. But I looked at stay in and my
wife and I talked about it, and you know, I've
got grandkids now, and I look at a situation where
I can go home. I can take the experience that

(56:27):
I've learned up here, all the all the connections. Now
you've got to have connections to get federal money. And
I can go back to Alabama and we can we
can get a coaching staff, as i'd call it, you know,
people run education, health care, and military all that, and
do the same thing at a at a smaller level,
just for the five million people in the state. And
uh we go from there and we hit the ground running.

(56:48):
So you can you can see results as a governor.
You can see results here. Say they are few and
far between, and they're very, very slow. And again I
didn't I didn't mind doing it when we would I
had bid administration. It was defense. I'm a defensive guy,
but it was defense all the time. You couldn't get
anything done. Now with President Trump, and he's doing a

(57:08):
great job. He's gotten common sense back up here. He's
working the halls of the Senate trying to get this big,
beautiful bill across, which it will eventually. But at the
end of the day, I just looked at it and say,
you know, to use my ability as the best I
can and the best for Alabama.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
Go back and be governor. Alabama is an awesome state.
It's a great place. There will be a Senate opening
to replace you. It's going to be a Republican. How
do you see that race playing out?

Speaker 6 (57:37):
There'll be four or five six people run for it,
and they should They all call me, and I said,
of course, you know, I'm telling y'all, I'm not going
to endorse anybody. You're on your own until you win
the primary. And I think that's the right way to
do it. Just it'll be a free for all. Even
Bruce Pearl, I've heard his name thrown in there. I
don't think at the end of the day, he will

(57:57):
do it.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
I've texted some about him. I love coach Pearl like
you do. He's the basketball coach for Auburn for people
out there that might not know. And he's been really
outspoken because he's been so fired up about the response
since October seventh. As a guy who's Jewish, there's just
a lot of awfulness that's been happening. Yeah. Yeah, and he.

Speaker 6 (58:15):
Would be a great politician, But I just I don't
think it's time for him. You know, I was retired. Yeah,
you know, I wasn't still working. I could have been,
but I just chose to get out and I worked
for ESPN for a couple of years and yeah, and
I said, you know, I'm going to do something for
American people, the country that gave me so much. And
so that's the reason I did it. And I think
if he was retired, he'd be a great senator.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
What should we know about the so called big beautiful Bill.
I was just talking with Senator Blackburn. She says she
feels like there's a good pathway to get this done
by July fourth. I know that's the kind of back
of the mind target. Do you feel good about that?
What do you hear? Obviously there's been a lot of
fireworks all around it as it's gotten closer. What do

(58:56):
you see on the floor? Yeah, first of all, we
have no choice. We've got to get it done.

Speaker 6 (59:00):
It's got to be passed, and it's got to be
passed soon because if we don't, twenty two percent of
everybody's taxes will go up. And and you can just
you can, you can say enough, you know, for the
Republican Party after we'd promised all this. Now the other part,
other than the tax cuts, there's a lot of good
things in the bill. Now, there's a lot of things.
It's like, you know, putting lipstick on a pig, you know,

(59:20):
as a conservative like me, I'd rather not do it.
But it's like anything else, Clai, you're not gonna have.
It's not gonna be perfect, but we have got to
get growth in this country. A lot of my cohorts
are saying it's not enough cuts. Well, at the end
of the day, we're counting on tariffs and we're counting
on growth to overcome a lot of the the cuts
that's not in the bill. And so it's it's gonna

(59:44):
be a fight. You know, Rand Paul, he doesn't like
the debt limit five five tree and yeah, none of
us do.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
Uh. But that's not to say you're gonna get there.
I said, Ran.

Speaker 6 (59:53):
You know, President Trump just wants to a point where
we don't have to raise it every three months because
the Democrats are gonna hold our feet to the fire
every time we want do it. Let's just do it
all at one time. Everybody's got a reason for doing
it or not doing it. Some say there's not enough cuts,
but we've got to take care of the people that work.
Clay what President Trump and heights one in sixteen and

(01:00:15):
in twenty four was the people that go to work
every day and put their nose to the grindstone and
barely make enough money to pay for their family and
their kids going to school. And they look around going,
we've got criminals that don't go with the law. We've
got we've got illegals here that are getting food stamps, welfare,

(01:00:36):
free housing.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
What's going on? Who?

Speaker 6 (01:00:39):
Somebody's not standing for us what President Trump is And
this bill stands up for the American worker, and that's
reading we have to get it done. We have to
get it done now and then we can do it another
We've got another reconciliation coming, so it's not like we're finished.
Let's get this one across the goal line. And there's
some things that I want to push a little bit harder,
But at the end of the day, I'm gonna vote

(01:01:00):
for because I know how important it is to our country.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
We had Riley Gaines on the show earlier today. You've
done a lot of OutKick shows over the years with her,
with her yeah, and a lot of our You know,
I can't believe that out kick site that I found
it is the only one that we'll say men shouldn't
be playing in women's sports in all of sports. You
have been working on this, but just as a preliminary

(01:01:23):
you coach for a long time, would you have ever
believed that Democrats would make it their party belief system
that men who pretend to be women should be able
to win women's championships? And for people out there who say,
oh it doesn't matter, look California, Washington, and Minnesota. Just
in the last week, men have won women's state championships.

(01:01:46):
I mean, this is crazy town. Did you see the
softball pitcher of course I did, bigger, taller.

Speaker 6 (01:01:51):
They couldn't. They couldn't get to swing around, of course,
or it passed them. It is foolishness, yes, And you know,
it makes no sense whatsoever. The Democrats don't believe in it,
but they push it because they don't have anything else
to push, and so they want to keep that group
of LBGTQ folks voting for them. And name Fray, Well,
if we do this, and we're going to lose that

(01:02:12):
voting base, and that's only really the vote voting base
they have, and they really don't have all of them.
It's just it makes no sense to me.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
Would you have ever believe that was ever going to
be an issue? Hoolytically no.

Speaker 6 (01:02:26):
And and the other thing is not just participations, it's
dressing in the same dressing rooms and showers. I mean,
who believes that? Who believes that's right? I mean, it
just makes no sense. And so again it goes back
to their ideology. Uh, you know, these the Democratic Party
is just it's splintered. You've got the far left that's

(01:02:47):
pushing all this, and so you've got the people that
are moderate Democrats are looking going, well, if I don't
go along with this, I'm not gonna get campaign money
and I'm gonna be kicked to the curb and I'm
lose my seat.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
That's read.

Speaker 6 (01:03:01):
We need term limits, I'm telling you. If we don't,
we got to do something where people don't have to
be held hostage by the leadership of their parties. We
have to have term limits where people can think for
themselves and vote for their constituents.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
And look, by the way you're making a choice. You
could have stayed in the Senate as long as you
wanted to be in the Senate, right, you could have
been in here for decades. But you have served, and
now you want to go back to Alabama and be governor.
And I'm betting after eight years as governor of Alabama,
you'll probably just say, hey, it's time to work on
my golf shots more.

Speaker 6 (01:03:31):
Yeah, I would would, I would hope, but yeah, you know,
And I've been one of the most outspoken and I'm
not a politician. Heck, I come up here and look
around going, hey this, I stand for this, and I'm
gonna speak out for it. I'm the only one that's
had a bill on biological boys and men and women's sports,
and we voted on it three times. I've had it
on the floor three times, and I've not cut one
Democrat to.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
Vote for it.

Speaker 6 (01:03:51):
I actually lost a Republican the first time we we
we had that on the floor. So that just no
common sense up here when it comes a lot of things. Again,
the Democrats are look, they're searching for an ideology that
will strike a note with the American people where then
get re elected. But this nonsense in California right now,

(01:04:11):
the nonsense of the girls being beat up, literally beat
up against men in sports. It's a losing.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
Costs Alabama a lot of people with a lot of
different beliefs. This is this kind of stuff would not
happen in Red states, right even with blue cities, They're
not going to allow this kind of violence to take place.
Did you ever think that it would be necessary to
just have a legislation to not allow men and women's sports?

Speaker 6 (01:04:43):
And never dreamed it would even we even be talking
about it. But if you go back to red and blue,
you know how sports how important they are in Red states. Yep,
I'm talking about girls sports and little kids sports and
in high school and junior high and then and then
even you know the higher education. It's so important. It's

(01:05:05):
not that important in blue states. I mean a lot
of the Democrats up here that they would know difference
between football and basketball. I mean, it's not that important
in their family life. And so alway isn't making a difference,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
It doesn't.

Speaker 6 (01:05:18):
So it's so important to in the state of Alabama
that you would have an uprising deluxe if you had
had that pitcher in softball pitching against women, you would,
I mean it would. And then of course you know
the swimming with Riley Gaines and very disappointed in the
gymnasts come out the other day.

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
Yes, on Biles, I couldn't believe it. I could not
believe what she said.

Speaker 6 (01:05:43):
It makes no sense if if you can take the
top twenty men in the country that could have that
were competed against her.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
That would probably have beat her. Yeah, true in anything.

Speaker 6 (01:05:56):
And so it's like some of the older of tennis
players and that of the years have made tons of
money playing women's sports, and all of a sudden, oh yeah,
I think this is right. They should be able to participate.
What I mean, you'd have been and also ran it's
that had happened. So what's happening now is we're going
to lose little girls. Yeah, we're gonna lose little girls

(01:06:18):
because they're gonna look at and parents are going to say,
there's no reason for you to do that. We're gonna
have a lot of cheerleaders, is what we're gonna have,
because they like to be athletic.

Speaker 4 (01:06:26):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:06:26):
And it's just it's just unfortunate that it's gonna happen.
But you look at some and some people. You know,
there are entire teams in high school across the country,
most on the West Coast. They're all tres trensenders. I
mean it's over. And everybody said, well it's just a
few of them. Now it's not a few, and it's

(01:06:47):
growing every day.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
Look, I will say this, and I think I've said
it on the show, but if I haven't, Blue States,
the way that we are going, every track and field
champion will be a man pretending to be a woman. Yeah,
I mean that's where we're headed. It's crazy. Congratulations to
you a year in advance on being a governor. You
probably don't want to celebrate early. You don't want to
high step into the end zone. Got to run through

(01:07:10):
the end zone. Got to run through the end zone
with the ball still in your hand. But he Senator
Tobby Tubberville, soon to be the next governor of Alabama,
we got to play. Well, I'm too bad at golf.
I don't want to subject you to that. But we'll
be crossing paths. Uh maybe at July fourth and beyond
down on the thirty A and in the Gulf Shores area.
That's the best beaches in America. A lot of people
don't know Alabama's got some of the best beaches in America.

Speaker 6 (01:07:33):
Yeah, Alabama. At Orange Beach, they just they're starting a
three hundred million dollar project Margaritaville. Oh yeah, it's and
you know, it's really growing. I mean it's beautiful.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
If you haven't been, they don't want me to say
it because a Golf Shores, Orange Beach all the way
down through there. But you've had a few drinks before
at the floor Obama right there on the it's one
of the most iconic balls.

Speaker 6 (01:07:55):
Throughout the first mullet when you know the mullet toss
pink Pony Ken Stebler, commasy coach, I need you, and
it's like throwing out the first pitch. People don't a
mullet is a fish, folks. Yeah, but you throw a
fish and you whoever has the father's throw in the
competition wins. So they wanted me to come down and
throughout the first mother at that I thought that was awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
That is that is a really mullet toss, A big
thing that happens down to Flora, Bbama. And if you're
wondering what in the world floor Bama, that's where Florida
and Alabama meet. Literally the bar is on the state
line Florida, Alabama, beautiful beaches. Senators soon to be Governor
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