Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Jul 29 2025

Mental Health Flags

A tragic mass shooting in Midtown Manhattan, where a former high school football player targeted the NFL headquarters, killing four people—including an NYPD officer—before taking his own life. The shooter reportedly left a letter referencing CTE (Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy), sparking debate about mental health, football, and public safety.

Clay and Buck sharply criticize CNN’s early coverage, which inaccurately described the shooter as “possibly white,” using this as a springboard to examine media bias, racial narratives, and the politicization of breaking news. They argue that mainstream outlets often rush to frame incidents through a left-wing ideological lens, especially when race or gun control is involved.

The hosts also explore the security implications of the attack, noting that even with armed guards and secure entry protocols, soft targets remain vulnerable. The conversation touches on the New York City mayoral race, highlighting the Democratic nominee’s controversial background and views on policing, including his current stay at a private compound in Uganda surrounded by armed security—despite advocating for social workers over police in violent situations. 

Cincinnati Police Chief blames social media and the press, not the criminals, for the brutal beatdown that went viral and said we don't have the full context of the videos. Buck points out there is no excuse for that level of mob violence. 

Russia Hoax Charges

Sean Davis, CEO and Founder of The Federalist, explains the new Russia hoax information that has been released by DNI Tulsi Gabbard and what could and should happen next.  Davis breaks down newly declassified documents revealing that the CIA and top Obama-era officials knowingly advanced false claims about Russian interference in the 2016 election. Davis argues that the Steele dossier and Mueller investigation were built on lies, and that figures like Comey, Brennan, Clapper, McCabe, and Strzok should face criminal charges.

The conversation explores the legal and constitutional boundaries of presidential immunity, particularly in relation to Barack Obama’s alleged involvement in the intelligence community’s actions. Clay and Buck debate whether immunity extends beyond a president’s term and whether subordinates can be prosecuted for executing presidential directives. They express skepticism that any high-profile Democrats will face legal consequences, despite mounting evidence of misconduct.

Davis also discusses the Biden administration’s alleged censorship of conservative media, revealing how The Federalist was targeted for blacklisting by major tech platforms. Despite the transition to Trump 2.0, Davis notes that the digital ad market remains hostile to conservative outlets due to the lingering effects of censorship infrastructure built under the previous administration.

Woke Meltdown Over Sydney Sweeney

The hosts analyze a surprising New York Times article titled “Inside the Rise of the Multiracial Right,” which highlights how Black, Hispanic, and Asian voters are increasingly aligning with Donald Trump and the Republican Party. This trend, supported by interviews from Milwaukee, San Francisco, and the Texas border, is framed as a rejection of the Democratic Party’s perceived inauthenticity and elitism.

Clay and Buck explore how the Democratic Party has lost touch with working-class and minority voters, citing examples like Pete Buttigieg’s evasive response to a question about transgender athletes in women’s sports. They argue that Democrats’ inability to answer basic questions honestly has alienated male voters and minority communities. The hosts also discuss the cultural backlash against actress Sydney Sweeney’s American Eagle ad campaign, noting that criticism is largely coming from liberal white women—a demographic they claim is driving the Democratic Party’s decline.

The hour features a powerful quote from a Black voter in Milwaukee who describes his disillusionment with the Democratic Party’s “white savior complex” and its focus on identity politics over practical solutions. This leads to a broader discussion about the rise of authenticity in conservative politics and the rejection of progressive orthodoxy, particularly among voters who feel left behind by the cultural left.

Mark Levin On Power

Mark Levin joins the show to discuss his new book On Power. Levin critiques the centralization of authority by Marxists, Islamists, and the modern Democratic Party, arguing that the American Revolution was fundamentally about who holds power—not just liberty. He warns that the left’s push for conformity, censorship, and redistribution

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Clay. Have you heard of the Rio Reset? Sounds like
a trendy new workout, Buck, it.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Does, but it's actually a big summit going on in Brazil.
The formal name is BRICKS, which stands for Brazil, Russia, India,
China and South Africa. But they've just added five new members.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Smart move to stick with Bricks. We know what happens
when acronyms don't end. They confuse everyone.

Speaker 4 (00:19):
Well, that's an understatement.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Bricks is a group of emerging economies hoping to increase
their sway in the global financial order.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Now that sounds like the plot line of a movie.
I'm listening.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Philip Patrick is our Bruce Wayne. He's a precious metal
specialist and a spokesman for the Birch Gold Group. He's
on the ground in Rio getting the whole low down
on what's going on there.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Can he give us some inside intel?

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Absolutely, he's been there since day one. In fact, a
major theme at the summit is how Bricks Nations aim
to reduce reliance on the US dollar in global trade.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yikes, that doesn't sound good. We got to get Philip
on the line.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Stat already did and he left the Clay and Buck
audience this message.

Speaker 5 (00:58):
The world is moving on from the dollar quietly but steadily.
These nations are making real progress towards reshaping global trade,
and the US dollar is no longer the centerpiece. That
shift doesn't happen overnight, but make no mistake, it's already begun.

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(01:38):
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Speaker 1 (01:44):
Welcome back in, Never welcome in.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
We hope you're always hanging out with us here on
the Clay Turevis Buck Sexton Show. We have got a
lot to dive into a variety of different stories continuing
to percolate out there. Sean Davis is a Federalists going
to join us top of the next hour, and then
Mark Levin has a brand new book out. Any of
you watch him on Fox News with Sean Hannity regularly.

(02:06):
He'll be with us in the third hour of the program.
But yesterday not far from our New York City studios
for iHeart where Buck broadcast for a very long time,
and where I have been and use those studios, and
where our crew is that you hear us talking with
all the time. There was a shooting about six thirty

(02:28):
pm Eastern. It appears that the shooter was in some
way targeting the NFL, according to a three page letter
that was allegedly left on the scene. I've not seen
that full letter excerpted, but a former high school player
of football drove all the way from Las Vegas to

(02:52):
New York City, went to the league offices in Midtown Manhattan,
that is the NFL, and reports are that he then
got on the elevator and went to the wrong floor.
Four innocent people killed, including a police officer who was
working as a security guard, and several other innocent people.

(03:13):
And then this individual shot himself in the heart with
his gun and said, study my brain for CTE. That
is the report that is out there now. You would
maybe be a little bit surprised over who exactly the
shooter was. If you were watching CNN and they decided

(03:34):
to say during the course of their coverage that the
shooter was possibly white. This is cut nine. Listen to
This was his face visible.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
I mean, do they they have any idea at this
point who he is?

Speaker 6 (03:48):
They do not know who he is. They know he
is a male, possibly white. He's wearing sunglasses, he appears
to have a mustache, and that has been distributed to
every police officer in New York City.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Okay, Buck, you used to react to live incidents such
as these on CNN. The picture of the guy, and
we try to avoid saying the names of mass shooters
because there's evidence that it encourages their behavior. Picture of
the guy, he is clearly not white. So as like,
let's start here as a real time breaking news analyst,

(04:31):
how can you explain this in any way other than
this is CNN White people are to blame for everything,
would you? I mean, am I drawing too much a
conclusion here based on the picture. When I looked at it,
I'm like, that is not a possibly white man.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Well, I'll just say.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
You have to think, what does possibly white even mean?

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yes, right, you know you would think either probably white
or not white. I don't think that possibly white would
be that would come to mind. But I think that CNN,
in their breaking news coverage especially, there's a playbook that
they run in their news coverage of any horrific mass shooting,
and it's either get this story out as fast, get

(05:15):
the details about the shooter out as fast as possible,
and then transition rapidly into scoring political points. Right, So, oh,
he's white, this is this is this is Trump's fault,
this is MAGA, this is white.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
Supremacy, right.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
That's and and if he's white and used a gun
as that, then it's white guy gun control, MAGA, second Amendment.
There's all these things that they will immediately jump even
if it's going to be wrong, and clearly are a
jump to conclusions moment for them. They want to jump
to the conclusion. They're looking for the opportunity to jump

(05:50):
to the conclusion. Whereas, on the other side, if it
is a non white male and does not have a
motive that immediately can be ascribed to him that fits
in an air anti right wing, particularly a white supremacist
or anti Trump rubric, then you got to just say
we may never know the motive, we don't know what's
going on here. Let's not rush to anything. And this

(06:13):
is just what they do because this is really their
worldview and their politics on display every time an incident
like this happens. So I mean, and we can walk
through the specifics of this, and I think it's worth
just looking at the layers of security and what happened here.
But I can tell everybody, I think the security conclusion
that most people would come to for what happened here

(06:34):
is you can't stop some miniac who has access to
a gun from going in and shooting people.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
You can try to make it harder for that to happen.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
But this case, you had an armed NYPD officer who
unfortunately was killed in the line of duty here tragically
left behind wife and children.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
But he was their son's twin sons, buck and an
eight month pregnant wife.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
That is the New York City Police officer who was shot.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
But my understanding is he would shot in the back
in the lobby. So that doesn't matter who you are.
If you're in a civilian area, you're a cop, and
someone comes up and shoots you in the back, there's nothing.
You know, there's no way that you're going to be
able to uh, to stop that threat unless you get
eyes on this person in advance and are able to
draw down before they can they can they can hit you.

(07:21):
So there wasn't really a lot here from a security perspective.
I think the bigger conversation immediately is that this guy
had a couple of mental health flags. And you know,
mental health, just like a whole bunch of public policy issues,
runs a huge spectrum. Right There are tens of millions
of people in America who have some mental health challenge,
and I think you could argue that everybody has some

(07:42):
level of mental health challenge at different times in their lives,
grieving with loss of a spouse or a loved one.
You know, you're a errif a accident, you got trauma.
I mean, there's we're talking about somebody who's nuts. Okay,
this guy is crazy, clearly insane, and a danger to
himself and others. And we live in a country now,
We live in a society where, thanks to leftist maniacs

(08:05):
like the ACLU who want to kick at the load
bearing walls of our civilization and see what happens, you
basically can't lock up anybody anymore for being a complete
wacko who's a danger to himself and others. It is
almost impossible anywhere to get that done. We have emptied
out all the asylums, and you get people at this
guy's angered. The NFL never played in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Yeah, played highs. Has nothing to do with the NFL,
has no connection to it at all. I also think
this is significant in New York City because one of
the biggest elections we're going to have this fall is
the New York City mayor's race. And guess where mom
Donnie the lead New York City mayoral candidate for the
Democrat Party. Their nominee is at a Ugandan compound right now.

(08:49):
Because he was born and raised in his youth in Uganda.
He has surrounded himself in Uganda with private security. This
is a guy who said that cops were basically unnecessary
and that we should have counselors, domestic counselors or social

(09:11):
workers who are showing up at scenes of violence and
trying to negotiate with the would be perpetrator, including domestic
violence incidents, which unfortunately often spiral into incredible danger for
the usually women who are calling to report domestic violence
related incidents, and so I do think that it is

(09:33):
yet another staggering hypocrisy that the guy who thinks, hey,
social workers should be called to solve problems in New
York City has his own private security detail which is
very armed, surrounding and protecting him on his Ugandan compound,
which is where he is right now while this incident

(09:54):
is playing out. So I think New Yorkers again, I
have said that I think that Republicans and reasonable people
should not necessarily save New Yorkers from the idiocy of
their choices. The consequences of their selection of a nominee
is real, and the fact that you pick a guy
who was not an American citizen until twenty eighteen, a

(10:16):
guy who was born in Uganda and basically a card
carrying member of the Communist Party to represent the biggest
city in America seems like a really poor choice. But
it's the choice Democrats have made. But this guy, to me,
this incident crystallizes. I would also point out you lived
in this area. This is two major I would say

(10:40):
violent attacks that have happened in Midtown Manhattan. I know
Luigi MANGEONI who everybody's kind of forgotten about now executed
in cold blood the United Healthcare CEO on the streets
of Manhattan, and now you have this guy driving all
the way from Las Vegas, walking in and trying to
kill as many people as he possibly can. It gets

(11:04):
a lot of attention. I understand because New York City
related events are covered more than shootings that happen elsewhere.
But I do think this is where people sit around
and say, Okay, what's going on with New York City?
Can we in any way keep the street safe? Even
Midtown Manhattan, which is ostensibly supposed to be a very
safe part of Manhattan.

Speaker 4 (11:23):
Well, where this happened.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
It's in a building where the Blackstone Group, which is
one of the most well known private equity firms in
the world, is located. The NFL headquarters obviously is there
as well, and you have a lot of people. It's
something of a crossroads. You have a lot of people
who they think of Wall Street as down on Wall Street.

(11:45):
That's actually original Wall Street is more of a tourist area.
Now there's not that much in the way of finance.
Most of the big finance shops are in Midtown actually,
either on the west side of the East Side, but
right where this is there's a number of very large
financial institutions that are headquartered there. So you just have
a huge number of people clay in these office towers,

(12:07):
coming and going all the time. I have a cousin
who who missed this shooting in terms of being on
that street by ten minutes. I have another my cousin's
husband works at Blackstone. So you know a lot of
New Yorkers know people by maybe a degree or two
of separation. No people who are right there at this building.

(12:27):
I mean, if you think of this is not an
office tower like it is like a standard. This is
a big, big building, a lot of people and a
lot of people coming and going from this area. It's
also a place where you see very little crime. There
tends to be a pretty heavy police presence. In the
fact there was an MYPD officer in the lobby, it
just goes to show you that I mean, they had

(12:49):
I mean they had that, they had secure entry, they
had procedures and precautions in place. But if somebody with
a rifle who knows how to use it, doesn't care
if they live or die, and wants to go shoot
a bunch of people in a civilian area. It's a
soft target. It's going to be very, very difficult to
stop that, certainly every time, or even a majority of

(13:10):
the times. So I don't think that there's really much
in the way of a security takeaway. I do think
there's a bigger conversation in terms of what could have
been done differently. I haven't seen anything yet. It's not
like the police response was super delayed or slow. It's
not that there wasn't anyone there. There was a good
guy with a gun there. This guy got the drop
on him and then killed a bunch of other people,

(13:30):
didn't kill a woman who came out of the elevator,
kind of let her go on video.

Speaker 4 (13:34):
So this guy's a maniac.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
And now we'll look back and we'll see how known
was it that he was a maniac. But I don't
think there are any takeaways from this about what would
make people in New York City safer other than this
is it's like a horrible It's just a horrible situation
that took lives for no reason. And I don't think

(13:58):
that there's anything that we can do to prevent bad
people in society from killing people Unfortunately, you can try.
I'm saying all the time, right, I mean, yeah, yes,
have them the good guy there, Yes, have the security
precautions and I'm sure that stops things. Look at the
you just we just talked about the good guy with
the gun stopping the mass stabbing travelgal. We couldn't save
everybody from being stabbed, right, So it's this situation is

(14:21):
a very difficult one to defend against. That's that's I
think one of the big one of the big recognitions
that we have on this. We'll talk more about this also,
I saw Clay they were There's there's been more discussion
of it, including from uh the the media, and then
there's media discussion of that attack in Cincinnati. We talked

(14:41):
about the stabbing, but there was attack, the attack in Cincinnati.
The police chief has weighed in on this. We have
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Speaker 2 (15:55):
Let's talk about this as well. So we've had the
we have that mass shooting in New York City. We
gave you the details of the shooter killed himself for
he killed four people, including an NYPD officer ran into
a building completely senseless, insane, horrific murders.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
And the guy, I think you'll find out was I
don't know what.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
I don't know what the diagnosis would be off somebody,
you know, the proper medical diagnosis. I don't know if
it's a you know, an extreme schizophrenic or something. But
the guy has clearly some very serious mental had serious
mental health issues.

Speaker 8 (16:28):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
There's also this Cincinnati attack that has gotten a lot
of attention. We talked about it yesterday and the Cincinnati
chief of police, whom I have to say, just listening
to her, looking at her, this shouldn't be your chief
of police, Cincinnati, Okay, I'm just gonna be honest with
you about this right now.

Speaker 9 (16:48):
The chief of.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Police should be somebody who has some degree of gravitas,
commands some respect, has some seems competent. It should not
be somebody who you I think would be at a loss,
like in some store selling wind chime somewhere and incense
or something. I mean, this woman strikes me as a
huge lib start with that. Here she is dressing down

(17:13):
the media for their coverage of the video that we
all saw play fifteen The post.

Speaker 10 (17:20):
That we've seen does not depict the entire incident. That
is one version of what occurred. Because what happens that
social media post and your coverage of it distorts the
content of what actually happened, and it makes our job
more difficult. The irresponsibility with social media is it just

(17:42):
shows one side of the equation quite frequently without context,
without factual context, and then people run with that, and
then it grows legs and it becomes something bigger that
we then have to try to manage as part of
the investigation.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
Okay, She also said, nothing Clay to tell us. Okay, Well,
what else happened that we need to know about.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
Well, I mean my question for you and for everybody
out there listening is I watched the video, and I
agree context matters oftentimes in video. What could occur short
of that guy deciding to run and just start to
attack ten different people right with a nief or a

(18:28):
gun that would suggest, Hey, a mob of people should
beat a guy and stomp him on the ground and
knock out his girlfriend, Like, what could happen like this
is I don't know if there was a follow up
question from the media, but the question that you're asked,
asking is the right one?

Speaker 1 (18:49):
It is? Okay?

Speaker 3 (18:50):
What is the context that in some way would provide
self defense to allow what took place in the video
that went viral to not be representative of that. Do
we think that this guy had a knife. Do we
think he had a gun? Do we think he attacked
twenty different people and they all felt compelled to simultaneously
defend themselves.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
If you see the comments, and you know, if you
see the comments online, this hasn't been said by an official,
but there's this insinuation from commenters, some of whom were
pretending maybe they have some inside knowledge that that maybe.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
A slur was used.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
And the whole thing here is, well, if that happen,
that changes it actually doesn't. Actually, it doesn't matter what
word someone calls you. You're not allowed to mob stomp
them into the cement when they're defenseless. This is maybe
where the debate might go we find out more details.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
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Speaker 2 (20:34):
We're joined by our friend Sean Davis, CEO and co
founder of the Federalists. Go to the Federalist dot com.
It is one of our favorite sites on the world
Wide Web, which I don't think anybody calls it anymore
really that, but it is the world wide Web Federalist
dot com. Great work there, including what we're about to
talk about. Sean, thanks for taking a break from what

(20:56):
you're doing to chat with us. What's going on.

Speaker 9 (20:59):
Well, thanks for having me back.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
It's a pleasure let's dive into this match, Shelby, because
so d and I Gabbard I sat down with her
and we had a discussion in DC about a month
month ago about a lot of things, and certainly one
of her mandates is to clean up the deep state
mess that was well, really the rot that spread from

(21:22):
the top down in places like the CIA. She has
released information about the soft coup attempt or I said,
the non violent coup attempt maybe a better way to
put it against Donald Trump. You are following this very
closely now, you and Molly Hemingway, your colleague at the Federalists,
have been on this for a decade. Now, what is

(21:43):
new and important that has come out? We're going to
walk everyone through this because the rest of the media
obviously they were in on the collusion, right, I mean,
they were in on the whole foax, the fraud. What
is new that people need to know about now?

Speaker 9 (21:56):
So I think it's to understand the importance of the
new divis I think it's important to take a step
back and look at what they were trying to do
with the Russia collusion hoax back in sixteen and seventeen
and eighteen, and there were two main pillars of that
entire hoax. One of them was that Donald Trump personally

(22:18):
colluded with Russia and Putin to steal the election from Hillary,
that he was an agent of Russia and that he
was working with them. That was the whole Steele dossier.
That was the bulk of the Mueller thing. We know
that was bunk. We've known that with Bunk for a
long time. But before they could even get to that
phase of the operation, they had the first point, which

(22:38):
was the claim that Russia meddled in our election in
twenty sixteen for the purpose of helping Donald Trump because
Putin wanted Trump to win. That was injected into the bloodstream,
and that was necessary to be there for people to
believe that Trump colluded. But what we learned last week
from the document releases from TULCA Gabbard is that that

(22:58):
claim was a lot. The CIA knew it was a lie.
Obama and Brennan and Comy were all told it was
a lie from their own experts, and they went ahead
with it anyway. They cooked the books, they fabricated evidence,
they bored the experts, and they put out this bogus
Intel Community assessment claiming that Russia had interfered for the

(23:20):
purpose of Donald of helping Donald Trump win, and that
was a lie.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
All right, Sean, thanks for coming on with us. Thanks
for also sharing a great hometown or our family town.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
Right now.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
I'm sure you saw that the state of Tennessee, according
to CNBC, was the worst place in America to live.
And I think I speak for everyone out there when
I say, yeah, you're right, it's awful. Please don't come here.
But you're running the Federalist and I bet you get
asked this question a lot, and it's the number one
question I get asked as in regards to this story.

(23:54):
Let's pretend you had a magic wand and you were
able to dictate policy from this point going forward, as
it pertains to what happened with Russia, What should happen?
In your mind, if you had that magic wand and
you were able to direct policy, what do you think
will happen? What is the significance, in other words, going forward,

(24:17):
not looking back, looking forward prospectively as to what should
happen and what will happen here?

Speaker 9 (24:23):
Go think two things. If I could may wave a
magic wand, I'd make two things happen. Number One, Comy Brennan, Clapper, McCabe,
and Struck would all go to prison because somebody has
to pay a price for the crimes they perpetrated against
the country.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
At minimum, they would be charged with a crime if
you were able. Okay, that is a concrete action. That's good. Okay,
what else?

Speaker 9 (24:44):
And then the second so that we're going to put
that in like kind of the law enforcement accountability for
the fraud bucket. The other bucket is we have to
make sure that something like this never happens again. And
there was actually a recommendation which was a really good
one in the document that came out last week was
a declassified Hipsy report and investigation of the ICA and

(25:05):
then recommendations on what to do with it. And I
think this business where you had these political appointees going
in and cooking the books and saying, you know, we
don't care if you don't think it's true.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
We call it.

Speaker 9 (25:18):
John Brennan said of the Steel Dottier accusations when told
they were not true and not corroborated, but don't they
ring true? There has to be a way to remove
that type of political corruption from the process. And it's
interesting for a long time we kind of were led
to believe that all the experts agreed on the ICA,

(25:38):
that they all agreed that Russia was doing this to
help Trump, and the reality that we learned was that
the experts were saying, no, that's not true, and it
was the Democrat political appointees who demanded that it go
in and be released.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
So what would you like to see now from the
DNI in terms of either further transparency and or action
from within the ICE the intelligence community sean to deal
with this at those levels, right, there's accountability and there's
preventing this from happening in the future. What do you
think we should see from d and I Gabbard and

(26:15):
Dcia Ratcliffe, the Director of Central Intelligence to get to
those two goals.

Speaker 9 (26:22):
Well, I think they've done a great job so far.

Speaker 11 (26:24):
You know.

Speaker 9 (26:24):
Ratcliffe, to my understanding, was trying to get these documents
out back in twenty twenty, even before the election, and
was stymied by then CIA director Tina Haswell, who it's
interesting she was running London's office is the station chief.
Back when some of the original you know, hoax intel

(26:44):
that became the basis of Crossfire Hurricane came through the
London embassy. I would like to know more about her role.
I would like to know all the intel that was used.
I would like to know all of the people who
touched the lies, who signed the affidavits for the fights
of warrants. I think we need complete and total transparency
and openness about every single aspect of how that hoax

(27:07):
was run from the beginning, And luckily, so far it
seems like Ratcliffe and Gabbard are on the same page there.
I'm thankful that they have been as forthright as they
have been.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
Also, the Obama factor in all this. You know the
names that you're talking about here, Sean Brennan, Clapper right.
Clapper was the Director of National Intelligence. Brenner was the
director of Central Intelligence. Brennan had been Obama's counter terrorisms
are in the White House previously. Obama, though, is very
clearly implicated in this too.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
Now.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
Clay and I have talked about how he was the president.
The Supreme Court's weighed in he's not going to face charges.
But I do think it's important for people to understand
that this wasn't the ic independent of the White House
under the Obama administration. The collusion included the collusion of
Obama and his top people in the IC to try

(27:59):
to essentially hobble the Trump administration.

Speaker 9 (28:04):
Yeah, and I think that's a tricky one. You know.
Number one, we had the kind of presidential immunity thing. Obviously,
a president can't go out and like pop someone in
the head and be like I can kill whoever I
want on president. There's limits to it, clearly, but the
Supreme Court has ruled that the president has a wide
latitude to execute the authorities of his office. I actually wonder,

(28:28):
in looking what happened, if there is a better case
to be given that Obama's probably not going to get
hauled into a court and have cuff slamed on him.
Might it be better to look at what Brennan and
Komy and Clapper did and in the things they did
in response to Obama saying get all the detail. Might
it be a better option to look at what they
did and say, you know what, they actually defrauded Obama.

(28:50):
He told them to get this info with the expectation
of what he was going to be given was accurate,
and instead they all got together and colluded and conspired
to give him bogus into and to defraud not just
the American people, but the commander in chief and President
of the United States as well. I wonder if that
might be a better tack to take going forward.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
I think that's a super interesting idea. We're talking to
Sean Davis. You can check him out at the Federalists.
Does great work there. Okay. I mentioned if you had
the magic wand a lot of this audience, and I
would put myself in this category is very skeptical that
anybody in a position of power in the Democrat Party
is ever going to be held accountable for anything that

(29:33):
they have ever done. And I think this is where
a lot of the frustration Epstein everything else comes. You
are Grandma who walked in the Capitol Jan sixth, Merrick Garland,
the Biden doj I mean, they will manighacally focus on
it to the extent that they're going to do a
pre morning raid to arrest you for trespass on that day. Meanwhile,

(29:55):
you got all these different alleged crimes being committed by
people in positions of power on the left in the
Democrat Party. What do you think the chances are if
you were handicapping right now, Sean, that there will actually
be charges brought I'm not even talking about convictions. I'm
just talking about charges brought against any of these individuals
related to what they did surrounding the Russia collusion.

Speaker 4 (30:17):
Lie.

Speaker 9 (30:18):
Yeah, that's a hard question because you know, I'm not
involved obviously in like the internal discussions about those types
of charges. I think they're far better now than they
ever have been, just kind of reading between the lines
and things we've seen and heard from Ratcliffe, from Gabbard,
from Bondi BONDI. Forming these DOJ task forces to go

(30:39):
after the Russia hoaxers is opposed to doing a special counsel,
I think is a really good idea. These task forces
have traditionally been used by the federal government to get
cooperations from all the various agencies, and we're a major
tool used against the mob, against racketeering, against organized crime
early on, which is something have to kind of look at.

(31:01):
You have to look at an organized conspiracy in order
to get around a lot of these statute of limitations
that you have. But I think it's important to look
at what happens like j six ers. These were people
who were put through the ringer. They were bankrupted, their
families were terrorized, they were eventually pardoned. Why is the
right not putting the left and the people who've done far,

(31:22):
far worse things to this country and can be far
greater crimes. Why are they not subjecting them to the
same punishment by process that the left is doing. Because
if anyone has ever been involved in any sort of lawsuit,
criminal or sibyl, they'll tell you it's awful, it's miserable.
It SAPs you of all types of energy and focus.
And what I don't understand is why is Congress in

(31:43):
their Oversight committee not doing the exact same things to
the left. Why is DOJ not doing the exact same
thing to the left that they did to our side
for eight years? Because I do think the process is
the punishment, and our side was terrorized by the process
for eight years, and it's about time the other side
gets a turn in the barrel if we're ever going
to get to a point where people decide we can't
do this anymore.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
Last question for you, a little bit quick here, maybe
on the answer, and I know it's not a topic
that necessarily lends itself to a rapid answer. If the
Trump team we're listening right now, and I think there's
probably a decent chance that some of them are. What
advice would you give them on what they should do
for the Epstein controversy at this point? Oh man, that's

(32:24):
thirty seconds.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (32:27):
I wish they would just release everything. I get why
that is difficult. They've got an appeal with Glen Maxwell
going on now, there's a lot of victim right stuff.
I wish they would release everything and if the conclusions
are different than what people are expecting, walk us through
why that is what they looked at. I just think
openness and transparency is the most important antidote here, and

(32:48):
I think it got oversold very early on by some
people in the administration and that caused them a lot
of problems and they're now having to take themselves out
from that.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
I know, I said last question, but actually curious. You
run a digital media site. I sold one several years ago.
Can you tell a difference in the ad market in
Trump two point zero compared to Trump one point zero?
Does it feel fairer to you based on the business
that you run?

Speaker 9 (33:15):
It doesn't to me. We were targeted for extinction by
the Biden admin and the entire left wing censorship industrial complex.
They tread to get a blacklisted from Google, from Facebook.
They went after all the major ad players, got us
blacklisted there. So I said, no, we have not seen
any difference yet, but it's because of the damage that

(33:36):
was done to us by our own government and our
own tax dollars illegally was pretty significant, and so I
haven't seen a big change in the ad market yet,
at least for us.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
That's something we should have a longer form discussion about sometime.
Sean Davis is the Federalist, because I do think that's
a story that a lot of people don't understand how
aggressively the Biden team went after digital truth tellers, in
my opinion, in to try to bankrupt them, and most
of that story really hasn't been told to a large degree.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Appreciate the time, Sean, Thank you both.

Speaker 9 (34:08):
Take care.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
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Something that you may have never heard me say in
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some praise to the New York Times the Sunday I
swear I'm an old man.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
So for those of you watching.

Speaker 3 (36:41):
Me on video I am holding a my copy of
the Sunday print edition of the New York Time, and
there is an article in there by someone named Daniel
Martinez host Song, and I probably have not pronounced all
of that name correct. I'm pretty good about Daniel Martinez.
No idea how host Song is supposed to be pronounced.
But his article is entitled Inside the Rise of the

(37:07):
Multi Racial Right, and it goes into how white, Black,
Asian and Hispanic voters have overwhelmingly moved in the direction
of Trump. And to their credit, they have interviews with
black voters in Milwaukee, Asian voters in San Francisco, and

(37:27):
Hispanic voters on the border in Texas. All of them
used to vote Democrat and they now have moved on
to vote for Trump and be supportive of him. And
I was thinking about this when the Wall Street Journal,
also over the weekend, had a big piece analyzing larger

(37:53):
political trends and issues, and they found the Democrat Party
to be the least popular in the history of.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Their poll, thirty five year low.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
And I was thinking about that, the rise of black,
Hispanic and Asian Trump voters. I bet a lot of
you are out there listening who certainly were not Trump
voters in twenty sixteen of a variety of different backgrounds,
but were by twenty twenty four, and I was thinking
about how to a large extent, I think it just
comes down to authenticity. And Mayor Pete, who we talked about,

(38:30):
actually has zero percent support among black voters zero percent.
Was interviewed recently and he was asked a very straightforward question,
and to me, this is why Democrats have lost men
and have lost a lot of Asian, Black and Hispanic support.
They can't answer questions honestly. And I want you to

(38:52):
listen to this. Mayor Pete has asked a very simple question,
should men be allowed to compete in women's sports? I
want you to listen to his answer play. I believe
it's cut twenty six When President Trump says something like
no boys and girls' sports, which is a phrase that
they use, it.

Speaker 4 (39:09):
Sounds like you're not signing on to that.

Speaker 11 (39:11):
I think that chess is different from weightlifting, and weightlifting
is different from volleyball, and middle school is different from
the Olympics. So that's exactly why I think that we
shouldn't be grand standing on this as politicians. We should
be empowering communities and organizations and schools to make the
right decisions.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
Keep it going, Pete, I love it. Keep speaking nonsense,
keep telling people things that make them immediately think. You
can't answer a straightforward question. You dance in circles because
you think you're smarter than all of us, and you
are not.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
How about starting with I think chess is different than weightlifting.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Yeah, I don't hear a.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
Lot of people say girls and boys shouldn't be able
to compete in chess. In fact, they do compete all
of the time, and so there is no yes yes
if you sit at a.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
Board and play a board game.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
I also think boys and girls should be able to
play Who Sunk the Battleship and Clue and Monopoly together. Yes,
I don't think that boys being bigger, stronger, and faster
implicates who passes go first. But I do think that
that clip that we just played is representative of why

(40:25):
Democrats are lost in the wilderness, because they know that
they're on the wrong side of issues, and instead of
directly addressing a question like he was asked there, they
try and fill a buster and to your point, Buck,
try to answer as if they are so much smarter
than everybody else who just wants to get an opinion.
And I think this is why one reason Mayor Pete

(40:46):
is at zero percent support among black people because in
addition to the fact that he's a gay, white guy,
which probably doesn't help him, he's also very faculty classroom
which which is why I think white educated voters like
him because they think of him as the smart philosophy
professor at place you went to school, or swarth More

(41:10):
someplace like that, but they don't actually connect with average
people going through average daily life.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Yeah, this is why the Democrats have the problems they
do right now connecting because the people who are putting
themselves forward as the leaders of their party are smug
and disingenuous. I think I think it is apparent that
they have a real branding issue going forward because as

(41:38):
much as Joe Biden was a clown, a jerk and
obviously had dementia for the four years of his presidency,
he used to understand the game, the grip and grinn
to say whatever to make people think you care about
them just enough for them to pull the lever for you.
Like Joe Biden got that, you know, that was his
whole life was just being people into pretending that he

(42:02):
cares about or pretending that he cares about them so
they vote for him.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
There are all these other.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Democrats now who people like Gavin Newsom. No one thinks
Gavin Newsom cares about them. Pete Bludha Judge, Pete Bluterajudge
doesn't make He makes you think that he thinks he's
smarter than you. And that's the whole game with him,
is that you know, vote for me because I'm so brilliant.
That doesn't connect with people. And the only people they
have who connect are the socialists who just go right

(42:29):
to the We're a bunch of malcontents. We're angry at
other people who are more successful than us, which is
the AOC Bernie wing of their party. But they don't
have that Clintonian I'll feel your pain like they.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
Don't have that.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
Here's one that I think is good buck. This is
from the New York Times from a voter in Milwaukee.
This guy's name is Orlando Owens. Listen to this, everybody
out there, and I want you to think about just this.
This description, he says. At my first Democrat meeting, two
themes had me reconsider everything. The first was we have

(43:03):
to help the poor black men and women because the
white man is holding them down. This is the first
it's a black guy, by the way, this is the
first time I hear about this white savior complex from
white liberals. Then they said, we have to fight for
our gay and lesbian brothers and sisters. We have to
do this or we're racists or bigots or homophobes if

(43:24):
we don't agree with you. When you get your food
stamp review, you have to go give shot records, school records,
blood type, You almost have to get absolutely naked to
get fifty dollars. But you have people come into this
country who have no documentation, who are staying at hotels
for two years for free. How's that right? A lot
of black people have already heard the promises from Democrats

(43:48):
and nothing was delivered. That guy, fifty one year old
voter from Milwaukee is more honest in that answer than
Mayor Pete, who wants to be the president of the
United States and is trying to persuade voters to support him.
It's a fundamental inauthenticity that I think has really riven

(44:13):
through male voters. Now here's the crazy thing, Buck, We
talked about to start the show off the Sidney Sweeney situation.
Do you know the foremost critics right now of this
American Eagle Pretty Girl advertisement, white women, white women are
losing their minds on social media over the fact that

(44:37):
Sidney Sweeney, who is also a white woman, is in
some way the front of the Democrat Party I mean, sorry,
in front of the front fair like.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
Cult members who now have the broader society challenging their
fundamental beliefs. And the fundamental belief of being in the
lib cult is that whiteness or just being white, must
always be contained, demeaned, undermined, and it cannot you cannot
celebrate and can I just also point out it particularly

(45:05):
bothers them that it's a white woman with blonde hair
and blue eyes. This is like there specifically, that is
what really upsets them, to which I just sit here
and say, what, Like, these people are psychos?

Speaker 4 (45:18):
What is wrong with them?

Speaker 1 (45:19):
You know?

Speaker 2 (45:20):
There's so you're supposed to be particularly ashamed of yourself
if you have blonde hair and blood, although it's very
rare genetically globally to have that, and yet we're supposed
to think that this is some kind of lover with
this saying it's a dog whistle for Nazism or something.

Speaker 4 (45:34):
They're insane.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
Well, it's straight Nazism according to Good Morning America. But
I think this is such a fascinating question for people
out there, and maybe you can think of it. Has
there ever been a group of people that have hated
themselves for things that they cannot choose that is now

(45:57):
the backbone of an entire political party, The Democrat Party
basically exists for liberal white women. That is the foundation
they are driving every decision that is made. The toxic
nature of the woke mind virus gets them, particularly in

(46:20):
a way where everybody else, it's like, has gotten become
aware of how broken this worldview is, except liberal white
women are now doubling and tripling and quadrupling down. Like
my favorite clip that we probably have played in the
past year, that white woman who went to go buy
the champagne or whatever it was to celebrate the fact

(46:42):
that women were showing up to vote Kamala and she
lectured the guy working in the liquor store about it.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
We need to pull that back.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
Sorry, Clay, you mean the political analyst who was telling
us that the women of America will have their voices
heard in this election.

Speaker 7 (46:56):
Huh.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
I mean yes, maybe we can play that at the
end of the show for people who have forgotten this.
But what does it say that the Democrat Party is
basically being led to thirty five year lows in popularity
by almost entirely following the whims and emotional responses of
young white women who have decided they hate other young

(47:23):
white women for being pretty, blonde and having blue eyes.
I don't know that there is a historical analogy to this.
It's one thing to be arguing, Hey, I'm proud of
where I'm from, I'm proud of my race, or I'm
proud of my ethnicity, or I'm proud whatever it is.
That's very common. Have we ever seen someone self flagellate

(47:46):
like this because of immutable characteristics that they themselves did
not choose, Like, nobody choose it. Well, I know, you
can change your hair color now and things like that,
but nobody chooses to be a gender or to same
people do not choose to be a gender or a race, right,
They're an immutable characteristic. We are born as we are.

(48:08):
I'm not sure we've ever seen anything like this, and
I do think it's worth grappling with to try to
comprehend how we got here and why. Guys like this
Milwaukee black guy who I just quoted from the New
York Times are looking around and saying, man, this is crazy.
This is not the Democrat party I grew up with.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
There's also a fighting against biology that is going on here,
with the anti Sydney Sweeney stuff, which is men are
going to like and by the way, there'll be women
will aspire toward female beauty, and men will be drawn
toward female beauty no matter what the lives and the
media and the propaganda machinery sets the basic biology. Yes,

(48:51):
they can spend the rest of their lives telling us
that morbid obesity is the most sexy thing in the world,
and it is not going to change the desire that
men have for healthy, attractive females.

Speaker 4 (49:05):
It's just it's just not gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
And and this is where you.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
Know the Left, because they they believe in the government
in place of God, and the total control of government
that would make some kind of utopia. They think that
they can change even the most basic parts of our
of our humanity, and of our wiring. And they can't
and this. You see this with a trans debate too.
It's like, that's a woman.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
No, it's not.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
You can tell me all day that the guy who
says he's a woman, It's just not gonna happen. I'm
not gonna sit here and go, Okay, yeah, you're right,
that's a woman. They can try, they can try, there's
no level of of persuasion, and then it's just brute force,
which is what they really started to try. Say it's
a woman, or you lose your job, say it's a woman,
or will ruin your life, your reputation, kick you off

(49:50):
the internet, debank you right. That's just brute force, and
that is what the left in the Biden years decided
to go all in on on a number of these issues. So, yeah,
people still like hot chicks. It's gonna continue, It's gonna
continue to be the case. Yeah, I know, Clay knows,
he knows trust me.

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Joined now by Mark Levin.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
He's the host of The Mark Levin Show, also Fox
News Channel's Life, Liberty and Levin and the chair of
the Landmark Legal Foundation. A new book out today on
Power and you have already written eight consecutive New York
Time number one best sellers. That's kind of a pretty
cool thing. But let's start here Mark, before we dive

(52:21):
into the book. What should happen with the Russia collusion
revelations from Tulsi Gabbard and what do you think actually
will happen? Is there a difference between what you would
suggest and the reality? How would you analyze this?

Speaker 8 (52:37):
First of all, thanks for having me well, she's not
going to be charged with treason. I think that's been
done once recent times, and it's not going to happen.
The elements aren't there unfortunately for legal treason. Was there
conduct treason is you know English common law? Probably so,
I meaning his conduct Obamas. I should say, well, what

(52:59):
should happen? They should open a full investigation, which is
exactly what they're doing. They should question Obama. They should
get all his texts and emails in any other communication.
He should be questioned under oath. He should go through
the same riga role that Trump did. They created the precedent,
but in this case he's a guilty man and go

(53:21):
through all that. You also have the potential for process
crimes as we call them, obstruction, perjury, false statements, all
that stuff. And he should be required to defend his liberty.
And also the reason you questioned him is determined if
other people have committed crimes, you know, a conspiracy to

(53:42):
use this kind of information to undermine an election, that
is a crime. But the extent to which you know,
you got lawyers commenting saying, you know, conspiracy really starts
with the last conspiratorial act. That's true, but conspiracy has
to start somewhere. If it starts twenty years ago, apply,
but let's go ahead and do the investigations. You don't

(54:04):
need probable cause to conduct a criminal investigation. You need
some notion of reasonableness. This is more than reasonable, and
conduct it and see where it takes you.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
Mark, We've been following, obviously very closely since the events
of October seventh, not only the war in Gaza against Hamas,
but also the waves of anti Semitism on campus. We
know that Columbia University just agreed to pay two hundred
million dollars at Harvard University under this Trump administration's tenure

(54:34):
is looking like they're going to have to pay substantially
more than that because of their failure to protect Jewish students.
There's a narrative, though, that we're seeing get a lot
of attention, including on the on the right, by some
people that I think you would that people would consider
to be either at least Trump supporters Trump voters, that
there's a humanitarian crisis in Gaza that is of Israel's

(54:56):
making and intention.

Speaker 4 (54:58):
We played the.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
US Ambassador to Israel addressing that, but I wanted to
hear your take on not only what is really going
on as you see it over there. But also why
are conservatives buying into this?

Speaker 8 (55:12):
You know, there's conservatives and there's conservatives right there are
isolationists who claim to be conservatives, and then they're real
conservatives who are conservatives. And the bottom line is this,
Why would the Israelis want to starve to death the
people in Palestine, excuse me, the people in Gaza, and
had the whole world turn against them, Why would they
do that? The Israelis could have blown that little piece

(55:35):
of the earth of the face of the earth a
long time ago, but they haven't done that. John Spencer,
who's an expert in this, he says, there's not another,
not another war on the face of the earth anytime
he looks back. Anytime the country that was attacked is
being forced to feed the people of those who attacked

(55:56):
them and slaughtered their own people. The Israelis have brought
in enough food in Gaza to feed two million people
every single day. You've got eighteen willers that are stuck.
You've got talents of food that's stuck. Why are certain
conservatives speaking as they are. I don't even call them conservatives. Buck,

(56:17):
If you have this kind of anti Semitism. And that
is your view, then there's something wrong with you. How
MAAS is a terrorist organization. This is their last desperate
act in order to survive, to turn the entire world
against this little country. And they're succeeding. They're succeeding. I mean,
France has been conquered by open immigration. It is basically

(56:41):
it has failed as a Western society. Britain has been
fundamentally conquered by open immigration by the Islamists and so forth.
It is failed. Much of Europe has failed. This was
the plot in the plan of the early Islamist scholars.
They wrote about it revolution by immigration. They're doing exactly
this same thing in our country. But for Donald Trump.

(57:02):
Can you imagine four more years and they may have
succeeded under a Bidener or a Kamala Harris, but for
Trump and the Democrat Party is fully engaged in this.
Look at the Democrat Party. We're most of the anti Summits.
You know, we have some freaks and fruitcakes and that
sort of thing. This is part of the Democrat Party.
This is the Bernie Sanders, AOC Tahalib their candidates for office.

(57:26):
You know, if we had a candidate like this Mandani,
but instead he was wearing white robes and a white hood,
and he was part of the clan and said the
things that Mandani has said, you know, about international terrorism
against the jew We would reject that guy. We would
denounce that guy. You have Democrat Party leaders slobbering all
over themselves, bending over backwards, trying to figure out how

(57:48):
to support him without supporting him. So my answer to
you is, I can't explain the anti Semites wherever they
come from. But the fact is Hamas is killing its
own people the way mal killed his own people, the
way Stalin killed his own people, the way these bastards
kill their own people because they're out for their own power.

Speaker 3 (58:09):
The book is, interestingly enough, given what you just talked about.
The book is called on power. Part of power is
knowing when to use it and when not to.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
You were right.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
I think both Buck and I were right on this too,
that striking around a significant blow on their nuclear capabilities
was the right decision for President Trump. We heard from
tons of people out there that if this happened, world
War three would happen, thousands of Americans would die, the
price of oil would go to ten dollars a gallon.
None of that happened, and many of the people who

(58:43):
said that would happen, it's like it never even occurred
that debate. How do you take consequences year going forward
when it comes to analyzing that situation, and how much
of a win do you think that was really for
Trump to have made that decision?

Speaker 8 (59:02):
It was big for President Trump to make that. Look,
he has a technique, which is, let us negotiate, let's
make a deal, let's see if we can get where
we get. But if you're dealing with people who are
irrational on the other side, you know, like terrorists are
communists or that sort of thing, or hamaf types and
so forth and so on, there's a point at which

(59:22):
it becomes obvious that that's not going to work because
you're dealing with really what is a what I call
positive power mentality versus people who have no interest in
that whatsoever. They're very evil As to the people who
predicted these things, they should be shamed, they should be disgraced,
and they're going to keep doing it because they need

(59:43):
the hits, they need the eyes, they need the clicks,
they need all that stuff. And you know, I don't
know who is arguing what you guys are very solid.
I know I was arguing too, This isn't war mongering,
for God's sakes, preventing a terrorist regime from having a
tomic weapons. They keep threatening us for the use of
these missiles that they were going to build into the

(01:00:06):
tens of thousands that are aligned with communist China and
communists North Korea and kg B Putin. I mean, if
we're not going to take us stand there, then when
the hell are we going to take us stand when
they hit us the continentally United States. That is absurd.
That is isolationism. That is not what Trump meant by
peace through strength. It's not what Reagan meant by peace

(01:00:27):
through strength. They are not isolationists. In other words, they're
not suicidal.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
Mark wanted to ask you to tell us a bit
about the book out today on Power. And I know
you've written eight number one best sellers, this one already
rocketing off the charts. What do you want people to
take away? And a lot of people in this audience
and know are getting their copyright a great August Beach
or out in the woods at the cabin read everybody
on Power? What do you want people to take from

(01:00:55):
the book.

Speaker 8 (01:00:56):
Or sending your ass on the basement like I do.
Here's the thing. We debate liberty, we debate rights. I
was thinking about this. We have got to become more
effective in dealing with these Marxists, these Islamists, these other people.
What is it that the Revolutionary War was fought over?

(01:01:17):
It really wasn't photo, oh, liberty, It was thought over power.
Who gets to decide what? You know? The French Revolution
was fought to destroy their society. The American Revolution was
not fought to destroy our society. Was fought for representative government.
And you start to think about these things. What makes
us so different from Europe? What makes us so different
from the Marxist and the Islamists. What makes us different

(01:01:39):
is what the Founders told us. A belief in God,
a belief in the Judeo Christian value system. They're very
explicit about it, and it's fused with the Enlightenment. You know,
power checks power. You're not going to find that with
the Marxist whether it's Bernie Sanders or talib or any
of them. It is a constant battle with the Democrats
and their ideologues over centralization of power. Versus individual sovereignty.

(01:02:04):
God is sovereign on earth. We are his children, We
are sovereign. Look, I'm not proselytizing. I'm not even capable
of proselytizing. You don't have to be Jewish or Christian,
you don't have to be a believer in anything. But
our country was created under this belief system that has
enabled this tolerance and this diversity and freedom and freedom

(01:02:26):
of speech and limited government. Communism is the opposite Islamism.
Radical political Islamism is the opposite no free speech, no debate,
its conformity and control. And I'm just trying to express
in this book. I take the word power and I
break it into different pieces positive negative, thought control, language control,

(01:02:47):
because we better get better at explaining what we're fighting
over or we're going to lose. We'll have respites with
the Donald Trump. And when these guys take power, they
make permanent changes like open borders. Can you imagine if
the board had been open another four years. I don't
think we could have recovered from this, and it could
be open another four years if we lose an election.
So my view is when we explain to people, when

(01:03:09):
you listen to them on Domini's people like that. What
they're saying is, we're going to steal your liberty, your individuality,
We're going to steal your rights. We're going to make
decisions for you. This thirty three year old punk who's
never done anything, he's going to determine how each and
every one of us are going to live, how we're
going to raise a family, where we're going to raise
a family. Redistribution of wealth, which is the destruction of wealth,

(01:03:33):
which is the destruction of private property. This is the
whole sixteen nineteen projects CRT DEI. Whatever Kakamami ideas they
can come up with, wocism, language control, thought control. People
need to understand you are fighting for your own liberty
and survival. That's what's going on here. That's what I'm

(01:03:54):
trying to explain in this book in a number of
different ways.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
The book is on power. Mark Livin, you all know
him is the author. Go get your copy.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
Mark.

Speaker 4 (01:04:03):
Congrats on the new book, and thanks for making time
for us today.

Speaker 8 (01:04:06):
By the way, you guys are great. I really appreciate you.
Keep up the great work.

Speaker 4 (01:04:10):
God bless thanks a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
You appreciate that, all right.

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