April 25, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show kicks off with a discussion on the latest developments in tariff negotiations involving Trump, China, and Russia. The hosts delve into the aggressive stance taken by Putin and its implications for Trump's strategy on the world stage. They emphasize the necessity of resolving this conflict swiftly.
The conversation transitions to a significant legal development in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, where a county judge, Hannah Dugan, was arrested by federal law enforcement for allegedly obstructing immigration enforcement. This arrest is highlighted as a potential turning point in immigration enforcement, signaling a crackdown on sanctuary jurisdictions and local officials who interfere with federal law.
Clay Travis shares insights from his recent visit to the White House, discussing the Trump administration's plans to intensify pressure on individuals and judges who obstruct immigration laws. The hosts argue that the Biden administration's lax immigration policies have led to an influx of illegal immigrants, and they stress the importance of deportation to prevent potential amnesty and voter base expansion for Democrats.
The show also covers the broader implications of sanctuary city policies and the legal battles surrounding deportations, particularly of criminal illegal aliens. The hosts criticize the judiciary's role in obstructing immigration enforcement and advocate for stricter adherence to federal laws.
Additionally, the hosts discuss the Pentagon's efforts to reinstate service members who were discharged due to COVID-19 vaccine mandates. They praise Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth's actions to rectify the injustices faced by these service members and emphasize the importance of acknowledging natural immunity and correcting past wrongs related to COVID-19 policies.
The hour concludes with lighter topics, including personal anecdotes about family and the challenges of parenting a newborn. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton share their experiences and reflections, adding a personal touch to the program.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Friday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
gets going right now. Much to discuss with all of you,
and I'm.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Excited to do it.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
So we've got the latest on the tariff negotiation, a
lot of negotiation talk coming our way. Latest on the
tariffs with Trump China, also negotiations with Russia. Right now,
you have Putin getting very aggressive and really setting Trump
(00:33):
off a bit here. I am curious to see where
this goes.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I'm curious to see what happens next. Because if Putin
thinks that he's going to be able to smack down
Trump on the world stage without consequence, I think he's
got another thing coming. I think that he is underestimating
what Donald Trump may be willing to do in order
to get the lever bridge that he needs to bring
(01:02):
this conflict to an end. Look, it's not going to
be easy, but it is necessary. Right we want that
conflict to end as soon as possible. But I want
to dive right into this place. I actually think this
is a fascinating, important story that could be the beginning
(01:22):
of a whole new era of immigration enforcement in this country.
Let's talk about what's gone on here First, a judge
in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, a county judge, has been arrested by
federal law enforcement agents. I believe the US Marshalls have
(01:42):
arrested Judge Hannah Dugan earlier this morning, and this was
done because she is allegedly obstructing federal immigration enforcement. Notably,
in this case, she looks to have taken it upon
(02:03):
herself to to essentially lie to federal agents about a
subject who was to be arrested in.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Her courthouse so that that wanted illegal alien could escape.
So running interference with law enforcement as a county judge,
as an official of the state of Wisconsin, she thought,
you know what I'll do, I'll misdirect law enforcement so
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that this guy can get away.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Now, this is really interesting because.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
It is in fact illegal to obstruct federal law enforcement.
And if you remember when it came to January sixth,
if you obstructed an official proceeding, at least if it
was January sixth, we were told over and over by
the media that you should spend years and years of
your life in prison. But in this instance, it's the
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first time that I've ever seen play an official of
the state or a judge who has been put on notice,
real notice, that it is not up to her to
try to undermine federal laws and she's not going to
get away with it. This is not just This is
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a warning shot for the entire sanctuary jurisdiction con It
is wrong. What these places, what these law enforcement officers
at the local and state level. I understand they're directed
to do it by their superiors, So they are not
given the discretion to assist. If it's the NYPD, if
it's the LAPD, etc. They're not allowed to help under
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their own policies. Federal law enforcement when it comes to
immigration and deportation, that is one thing. But to get
in the way Clay, it is illegal. This judge deserves
to be arrested, cash betel the FBI. This new Trump
administration is actually looking at the laws and saying judges
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have to obey them too. Sorry if you watch too
much MSNBC, But that's not a get out of jail
free card on immigration enforcement.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
I think this is a great move. Yeah, I think
it's a big move. And I actually am coming right
from the White House buck where I just talked with
Tom Homan and we're going to play some of that.
I think in the third hour, focusing on exactly what
they're going to do to ratchet up this pressure on
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individuals involved in trying to cover in violation of federal
law for illegal immigrants. And this is something that I
think we've hit on and I think it's important for
people to understand. And Tom Homan laid it out, and
he's laid it out before, and we've made this clear.
They believe that because Joe Biden let ten million illegals
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into this country over the last four years. Tom Homan
just told me Buck that he thinks there's over twenty
million illegals is the number that he would put it
at roughly in the country right now.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
And they have.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Made it so difficult to deport illegals from this country
that he thinks and I think the only explanation for
this is somewhere down the line they're going to get
amnesty and Democrats think they've added a lot of voters.
That's the only thing that makes sense here. And in
order to keep that from becoming a reality, you have
to deport people. It's one thing to stop. That's the
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first you know, if what's the first rule of being
a physician, do no harm? Right, we've at least stopped
the harm on the illegal border crossings because effectively the
border is completely shut down. But now they have decided
to make the battle ground whether or not you can
deport these individuals. And you know how they've done it, buck.
They have basically enlisted six hundred some odd fed eral
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district court judges who believe that their judicial ruling should
overrule the choice of the executive of the United States,
that is, the president. And so right now they are
of the opinion that they just have to outlast Donald
Trump and maybe AOC comes in or whoever the Democrats
are able to get elected, border gets wide opened again,
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and we pour tens of millions of more people right
back into the country. That's the big battle that we're fighting,
and getting people out is where they've decided that they're
going to lay down the Trump train and try to
keep it from continuing to move.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I think that this is also clay when you see
once again the people who claim to be so they're
legal formalists when it comes to every layer of process
upon process. Yeah, to let's be clear, to stop deportations.
I'm not even just talking about in general, stop deep
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iportations of criminal illegal aliens. We have to come up
with a better term for this, right, because an illegal
alien has committed a crime. But I mean, look, we
are rational and honest people. We understand there's a difference
between somebody who is in their fifties and has been
here for twenty years illegally and has been working in
the service industry, or you know, there's a difference in
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the urgency to get them out or the urgency of
handling their case. Then there is for somebody who's an
MS thirteen gang member who is a threat to kill people,
to rob people, has done that as a wife beater,
is violent, right, they want to stop the ladder from
being deported. We're not even talking about that initial category
right now, but Clay, they're illegal formulasts.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
The law is the law. Oh, we need to bring
an MS thirteen gang member, which is now a designated
terrorist organization, So the gang terrorism thing is and their
narco terrorism has been a real thing for a long
Pablo Escobar was a narco guy and a terrorist, right,
I mean, so these things are not mutually exclusive at all.
But they want to bring him back into the United
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States so that we can go through another layer of
kicking him out of the United States and hope that
they can subvert that layer and keep him in the country.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
That's what's really going on. But then they look at
a statute that lays out you cannot obstruct and you
cannot aid and a bet. Right if I if Immigration
and Customs Enforcement Clay was looking for somebody and and
they and you know, and illegal came running up to
my door and knocked on my door and said, hey,
can you hide me. Ice is looking for me. And
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I said, yeah, sure, go to the back room. And
then Ice knocks on my door and I say, I
don't know what you're talking about. There's nobody on these premises.
Who's that illegal? I'm obstructing. That's a violation of the
same way that if somebody stole a car and I
went up to the cops and I said, oh, the
guy went that way, when he really went the other way,
or I was hiding them in my home aiding in
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a betting, you cannot do that. This judge did that,
and the judge is not above the law. The judge
should be held to the law.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Once you start to get deeper, the Democrats have gotten
used to we just ignore the statutes on immigration in
all respects that we don't like. That's not the game
the Trump administration is going to allow them to play anymore.
It's a big change. It's a huge change, and I
think it's not only This is one where I'm going
to say, the message that you send is incredibly important
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not only for the judge who's violating the law, but
also for everyone else out there to understand that there
are now consequences for doing this. This is one where
you are sending not only a message to this individual
judge who likely has violated the law. Based on the
FBI arrest most people arrested federally have violated the law.
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Federal prosecutions have pretty good success rates. But it's other
judges looking around and saying, oh, they're actually going to
enforce it. Now. You know what's going to happen, don't
you buck. This judge is going to turn it to
a left wing hero. This judge is going to be
now the new face of judicial restraint that I'm telling
you how this is going to play out. They're going
(10:10):
to say, well, we wish we had had judges who
would have stood up to Adolf Hitler. During Nazi era Germany.
This judge is going to become the new left wing hero,
irrespective of whether she has behaved illegally. Look at who
they decided to make their face at El salvadoran wife
beating human trafficking illegal immigrant who's a member of a gang.
(10:33):
You don't think they're going to use this judge in
the Milwaukee area, in a battleground state as the new
flashpoint cultural pivot for defending Macy in America. They may,
but I don't think that this serves the Democrat parties.
I'm not arguing it's a good decision. I'm just saying
this is what I think they're gonna But I think
(10:54):
I think that's important. I think you're right that there
will be people, certainly on the left. I don't know
if the.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Mainstream Democrat party is going to rally behind this judge.
It really depends as we find more. It depends, I think,
on finding out more about who was she harboring allegedly,
what was this individual story? You know, if this is
a person you know who's got a bunch of DUIs
and like a you know, an assault arrest on his
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record or something, I think that becomes a lot harder
for them, and that then may change a little bit
of how they position this. But a judge getting arrested
by US marshals for obstructing federal law enforcement is a
big deal, and we actually need more. The judiciary is
not above the law. That's the real message from this,
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and from a lot of what we see going on
right now. We've seemed to be led to believe. First
of all, the judiciary is nonpartisan, which unfortunately is a lie,
just like journalism as nonpartisan. It's just has always been
a lie. The judiciary is not nonpartisan, and I wish
that they were different, but I know it's not different.
And then beyond that, the judiciary has to be held
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to the same laws that all the rest of us are,
irrespective of how importantly how powerful their political beliefs may
be on some issue. So this is this is going
to be very interesting because Clay, I don't think this
is the only one. Every major city in America pretty much,
when I say major, I think if you're talking about
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over a half a million people, let's say, so every
when I say major, I mean large. Every large city
in America is a sanctuary jurisdiction. As far as I know,
I think every single one whoa what's going on with that?
Where else are they doing this right? Where else are
these kinds of actions being taken that are violations of
law and what's that going to mean? So we'll take
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some we'll take some calls on this, we'll dive into
this some more. Also, our friend Pete hegsett that the
Pentagon is taking some very important steps, specifically with regard
to COVID nineteen COVID nineteen related service disruption re in statement.
I can't think of a quicker way to say that
than if you lost your job because of COVID in
the military, you're getting your job back and they're working
(13:07):
on getting that done. So we'll talk about that. I
think that's really important. You know, I've got my family
in town, so my mom, my dad, my sister, they've all.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Met the baby. It's very exciting. So the New York
contingent is here, and it's really fun to have three
generations of Sexton's altogether. And there's a lot of memories
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Speaker 1 (14:46):
Welcome back in. I think Buck got nervous yesterday after
I went after Michelle Obama amazingly. Everybody's like, finally somebody's
saying it, and I wanted them to pull that STI yeah,
can I just jump in really quickly?
Speaker 2 (15:01):
I was like, I was like, whoa Clay's Clay woke
up today and chose chose to fight. I was gonna
tell you, I don't even want I don't even want to.
I don't want to name any names.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Every person who reached out to me after you chose
so to speak violence yesterday was like I love it. Oh, Okay, Clay,
Uh Clay is uh he's on the side of the
angels apparently look at that. Uh So Michelle Obama I
wanted to say this. She complained that In addition, I mean,
this whole podcast that she's doing Buck, I think is
(15:34):
going to destroy her favorability because people actually find out
what she's like and she's kind of floated. On the
first lady typically doesn't get criticized front her whole thing,
the whole brand is a creation of the machine at
a time when the Democrat machine was that it's absolute
peak of powers in terms of media. I mean, when
(15:56):
they had all the social media, when CNN still mattered.
Like you go back to the Obama years, different universe. Now,
my friends, as you and I know, yeah, totally, and
I think we have time. Let's play cut twenty three.
She all she's done on her podcast so far is
whine about how unfairly treated she is. And now she's
(16:17):
saying it's not just her, it's all black women. Cut
twenty three.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
As black women, we are so easily labeled as angry
and bitter.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
And let me tell you some of the most hurtful
stuff that I.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
Experienced, you know, entering this life of public service at
the heights that we entered into was during my husband's
presidential campaign and just me telling the truth of who
we were. And then you get labeled as angry, you know,
because you talk forcefully or passionately about something, even if
(16:54):
it's in the context of great joy and pride. That
the that the first label they put on us as
black women is that we are angry.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Her entire podcast is just her being angry at the world,
just whining. One hundred millionaire and whining, and she's just
confirming it with every word that this is this is
what a Princeton thesis was when she was an undergrad.
So nothing has changed in forty years, and her Princeton
thesis is Princeton is discriminates against me so much. Meanwhile,
she got into Princeton under the peak of the affirmative
(17:27):
action regime, so she probably had, you know, an average
SAT score compared to the average rather substantially below because
she was in a favored group, which we know the
Supreme Court is now said is actually unconstitutional. Uh Clay, Yeah,
I'm I think the I think the era of people
saying Michelle Obama's gonna run and she's gonna win. No
she's not, and no she's not. So there's that I
(17:51):
was wrong about. I didn't think that she would be
this unlikable on her podcasts. You're right to tell you.
I tried to tell you.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
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welcome back into Clay and Buck Clay is in our
nation's capital and he'll bring you some of that. He
sat down with Tom Holman for an interview, so he's
gonna be helming the show in the third hour, I
got I got all family in town here and we're
having a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
With the baby Clay. I keep being told by everybody
that this baby I'm I'm this is external. This is
just what I'm being told. Everyone thinks their baby's the
cutest baby ever, right, I mean you thought you're three
boys with the cutest babies and the history of babies
that I understand. Obviously I think the same of my
little boy. But he's so well behaved that I'm being
warned by family members that this is not normal and
(19:34):
that we should not expect this the next time. He's
sleeping well, like, no challenges, by and large, he's he
just chills all day. He sleeps through the night. It's
I mean, he already sleeps through the night. Yeah, I
mean Carrie wakes him up to feed him and that's it.
But that's he has to be woken up to feed
once and then he goes right back to sleep and
he sleeps through the night. And it's like, I don't
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even know. I tell this to people and they're like, what, Yeah,
I've never even I've never heard of that happening. For
what he's my mom had four kids, right, you're you've
got you know, your mom had two two and then
we had three. Yeah, you had three. My Mom's like,
I've never seen this before. So Granny is coming in
here and saying, I've never seen anything like it. So
it's been pretty nice that. I mean, usually them by
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far the toughest thing about having a newborn is the
lack of sleep. So if you're handling the sleep already
a couple of weeks in like that is unprecedented. I
don't know what it ever keeps saying are you okay?
And everything? I'm like, am I okay? It is a fiddle,
it's great, baby's adorable, Carrie's doing great.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
You know.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Anyway, I'm just maybe I shouldn't tell people this because
people kind of look at me like what do you
what do you mean? Like it's like I'm skipping the
hazing but still joining the fraternity a little bit, you know,
like you're not dressing in a in a chicken suit
and like, you know, running over to sorority row or something.
I mean, I'm like, no, I just no hazing, just
going right to the fun part. So yeah, that's pretty amazing.
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Hopefully it keeps up, but if it does, then that's
the part that usually for the first six months or
so is brutal, because once you get to about six months,
the baby can start to have a little bit of personality,
I mean real personality where you can start to kind
of interact with the kid in a way. Three months
you start to get those smiles stuff like that, which
is good. But but yeah, like prior to that, they're
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a lot. But so if that's true, then that is
that's phenomenal. Yeah, if I show up super haggard on
the radio in a couple of weeks, we're all going
to know it's because I jinxed this and now the
baby is, you know, not sleeping and we're having trouble.
But for all of you who have been asking, and
all of you been so supportive, you parents out there
have all welcomed me into your fraternity. It's a co
ed fraternity. We actually had those at my school, a
(21:39):
co ed fraternity. I was like, isn't that not really
a fraternity then? But neither here nor there. But yes,
thank you so much for all your all your well wishes.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
All right, let's talk about Pete Secretary Defense hack Seth.
He is doing some important stuff over at the Pentagon.
I I still there are things that I will never
let go.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Clay, and I don't think you will either, about what
happened during COVID that anybody involved in who has any
bit of integrity, honor, decency should admit that they were completely.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Wrong, admit that what they did was awful, and try
to make amends. Now there are a number of those things, right,
I mean for Fauci, for example, I well, I could
do a three hour show and we could just sit
here and talk about all the awfulness of Fauci. But
one of them was the rejection of natural immunity, one
of the longest standing principles in immunology that exists. Remember,
(22:34):
they just pretended like, oh, you had COVID, you still
have to do all the crazy stuff. What do you
mean I have a positive COVID test. It's been two weeks. Like,
shouldn't I just go about my life? The answer should
have been yes, So effectively we all should have been
done with COVID once you know, I got it, you
know in the.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
First wave did you get it for? Did you get
hit in the first wave? When did you get it?
I got it early, but I didn't have any real issues. Well,
first wave, I guess would have I had it in
like November of time, digonal COVID, you know, not COVID zero.
Not COVID zero, I mean original COVID with the with
the sugar, not the corn serius. I had the I
had the og COVID on h in November of twenty Yeah,
(23:12):
so yeah, I got. I got that same I got
in the fall of twenty I also got. Anyway, my
point is that there are things that are just unforgivable
and people should at least try to get forgiveness for it, nonetheless.
And one of them is anybody who was a law enforcement,
military first response, anyone who got fired because they didn't
want to get the vaccine. Now we know there's no
doubt whatsoever the vaccine offered zero protection to other people.
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So the notion that you should have been forced to
get a vaccine because of what other people want for you,
because you are a risk to them was completely as
a total fallacy. And there's no argument about this. That
people were fired from the military, thousands and thousands of
people fired from military fire. And please, I know you're
gonna call me from a different job or a different sector.
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Anybody who lost their job over this in the government,
and it's within the power of the Trump administration to
fix this. It needs to be fixed. Private sector is
a little tougher, but still should be fixed. Here is
Pete Hegseth giving it an update. This is cut one
on the reinstatements for service members who were separated from
or taken adverse action against because of COVID.
Speaker 6 (24:18):
Today, I'm signing a memorandum that directs the Undersecretary of
Defense for Personnel and Readiness to provide additional guidance to
the boards that are reviewing these cases concerning the review
of requests from service members and former service members adversely
impacted by COVID nineteen vaccine mandate. The guidance also will
facilitate the removal of adverse actions on service members solely
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for refusing to take the COVID nineteen vaccine, including discharge
upgrades and less than fully honorable discharges for individuals separated
for refusing to take the COVID nineteen vaccines. So we're
trying to scrub all that, clean, all that up. Will
also facilitate appropriate remedies for service members who have suffered
additional career setbacks resulting from the previous administration's unlawful vaccine mandate.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
I love it, Clay. Yeah, and it's one that Trump promised,
and I get it. There are people out there listening
and they're saying, oh, Trump was not perfect on COVID,
and you're correct, but he was way better than Joe
Biden was. And if he had won reelection in twenty
twenty and been able to stay in office, you would
have never had a COVID shot mandate. You wouldn't have
(25:30):
had it go to the Supreme Court.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
In May of twenty twenty, I go to the White
House at Trump's invitation and sit down with him to
actually talk about being CIA director, which now I can
speak to you all about very openly because some of
our peers ended up taking cabinet position, some of our friends.
But I talked to Trump about being CIA director for
the twenty twenty one term. This was a real conversation
that I've mentioned before in the show. It was a
real conversation that.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
We had in the oval. Uh, And He's then brought
it up several times in front of Clay, which was
pretty funny because I I think I've said it on
the air. Yeah, I think he did say it on
the air. Yeah, but I remember being there in May
of twenty twenty in the White House. I keep saying
the date. Just you remember, this is very early in
our whole COVID saga. Nobody in the White House is
wearing masks. Trump shook my hand, No masks. It was
(26:18):
all you know, this whole They like they were trying
to live in reality but not, you know, freak everybody out.
So I'm just saying there was a clear understanding that
there was a paranoia and a freak out going on.
And Trump was very clear to me, He's like, look,
I don't want to overrule all the states on this,
because remember what if he had overruled What if Trump
had overruled the states federally and actually there had been
(26:41):
some of these interventions, some of these things had gone wrong,
and what if all of a sudden, Texas had three
Legitimately they lied about the data a million different ways,
but I mean legitimately had two or three times the
COVID deaths, then a state like California, it would have
been a political disaster and the whole thing. So I
understand why in May of twenty twenty he was willing
(27:02):
to allow states to do the federalist thing and take
their own, make their own choices. The separation, Remember, the
vaccine mandate thing is one hundred percent Biden. Trump had
nothing to do with that. That happened after he was
no longer in office, and it is completely inexcusable. And
we have a real debt to those service members, to
(27:23):
those law enforcement officers, those first responders, nurses, doctors, anybody
who got fired from their job because they wouldn't get
the COVID shot. We have to make that up to them,
and Pete's taking Secretary of Defense Hegsat is taking important
steps to that end. I think it's the least we
could do, and I would submit. Remember, but for Trump's
(27:43):
Supreme Court appointments, was it six' three that the government
couldn't mandate THE covid shot basically for everybody in the whole.
COUNTRY i think it finished sixty. Three and if you,
remember the questioning From sotomayor And Kati Brown jackson in,
particular was. Moronic they had not done the basic, research
(28:07):
wasn't It sotomayor who said there were hundreds of thousands
of kids hospitalized WITH Covid she i mean just legitimately
had no. Idea as a part of her, questioning you
could tell that she had not done the most basic
research on this. Issue but For trump getting Three Supreme
court opinions, appointments this opinion would have gone out and
(28:30):
everybody In america basically would have been forced to get
THE covid shot as a condition of. Employment AND i
mean the fact That biden got shot. DOWN a lot
of people now forget, it but it was AND i
give credit to the judges that were in the. Majority,
remember for a long, time nobody would stand up and
(28:50):
say The constitution matters the most in times of war and.
Crisis it's actually when we're in peril and when we
face real difficulty that the fabric of The constitution matters the.
Most and they were, willing don't, forget huge majorities of
The american public were willing to throw The constitution on
a dumpster fire because they were afraid OF. Covid they
(29:14):
decided that it didn't matter. ANYMORE i completely disagree even
with some of The conservatives when it comes to their
jurisprudence that allowed them to or that they thought allowed
the government to shut down churches because of an aerosolol's.
Vibrus that's. There they were, Wrong they were, scared and
they were cowards and they were. Wrong you actually can't do,
THAT i, agree AND i hope that not while people
(29:34):
are gathering to go to weed. Stores, sorry, no you
know WHAT i.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Mean, like you gotta remember it Wasn't it wasn't shelter in, place,
everybody and if you, don't you're gonna.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Die it was you, know go To Whole, foods go
to your weed, store go to the liquor. Store but
you can't go to. Church. Okay one of my, favorites
buck was remember that they kept open some like there's
an ice cream shop in my neighborhood that never shut.
Down ice, cream cupcake. Stores those were considered essential, businesses
(30:03):
so you could go to. Those you couldn't go to the.
Church you, Know i'm gonna tell you. Something it's interesting
because you know you've made, This you've called this long.
Shot we're weaving, now you've called this long shot About
Andrew cuomo being being the mayor Of New York city
and the comeback that you think he's gonna. Have now
up to this, point you're, right he's running and he's
in the. Lead, However cuomo is, horrible not just ON.
(30:24):
Covid my Friend Mark simone On worr reminded me of
this recent WHEN i was talking to. Him, cuomo so
you can go to The Buck. Brief we had a
nice conversation about, this the podcast and the Claim buck.
Network cuomo was the guy who did the no no you,
know the basically you get released no. BAIL i forget
what the phrase is, there you, know no cash BAIL
(30:45):
i think was the. Way but the jail break, bill
that's what the jail break. Bill that Was. Cuomo he
actually did horrible things as the, governor but he was
so bad ON covid that it overshadowed a lot of
the terrible stuff that everybody disliked before. Then and then
the fact that The democrats pushed him out for grabbing
the lady around the stomach and kissing one on the
cheek or. Whatever it was like, this you, know the
(31:05):
the being, hands the. Stuff i'm not Sure clay he's
gonna have as easy a time as once once other
people get. It, remember no one Thought Bill deblasia was
going to be mayor Of New. York there was a
WOMAN i think her name Is Christine. QUINN i can't.
REMEMBER i think that's.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Right who was expected to be the far and away
AND i think as people find out when you look
back At cuomo ON, covid he looked back at him
on crime and a whole range of issues he was
he was a terrible, governor. TERRIBLE i think the primaries In, june,
THOUGH i, mean it's gonna be here in like eight,
weeks nobody's gonna even hardly be paying. ATTENTION i did see.
(31:39):
This you know who just Endorsed, Cuomo Kirsten, gillibrand one
of the. Senators but you know what's significant to me
about that. Endorsement she was the one who really forced
out Al franken over that picture on the airplane on
the transport where he's pretending to grab a girl's boobs
(31:59):
when she's. ASLEEP i, mean like a, DECADE i don't
like to be in this. Position i'm. Not they did
al frankin. Dirty, OKAY i think Al franken's a, jerk
but that was. Wrong they actually should not have pushed
him out for. That, okay that was not that did
not rise to the level of you, KNOW i just
think it's an incredible sign of me, too being over.
(32:20):
That now she's Endorsing, cuomo who was actually forced out
for legitimately touching a.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Woman. AGAIN i think it's a joke that he got
forced out in particular over, this that there's a lot
of reasons that he was awful as. Governor but now
she's backing in and coming and supporting. Him we'll talk
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Speaker 1 (35:13):
Stuff Uncle bill's gonna lay down the. Law but what
have you got for? Us and then we've Got Tom
holman coming up at the top of the third, hour
which should be outstandings as well TO uh to break
it all. Down BUT i Think tim In omaha Is,
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Tim thanks for.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Listening oh just earlier when you were talking about THE
uh The saintsbury cities and how they're not cooperating with THE,
FIT i don't know why If trump doesn't direct some
of his agency heads to to apply the same, policy,
like if you want to cooperate with, us we'll cooperate with.
(35:53):
You if you choose not to cooperate with, us we'll
cut you.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Off, yeah thanks for the. CALL i think the question
that he's kind of getting at is if a federal
judge can be arrested for violating the, law how are
many of the sanctuary city policies not direct contraventions of federal?
Law AND i Asked Tom holman a bit about that
in the third. Hour you'll get his. ANSWER i think
this arrest of the Judge buck signals an acceleration internally
(36:20):
of their willingness to go after people who are stopping
them from doing their. Jobs, well it sends a very
powerful message to anybody else who thinks that they're going
to obstruct immigrations and customs and enforcement. Efforts so, YEAH
i don't think you want to be on the wrong
side of this administration when it comes to their law
enforcement efforts on. Immigration we'll talk To bill O'Reilly about
(36:42):
this coming up here a few. Minutes Uncle bill will
be with. Us a lot more coming and, then like
we Said Tom, homan third, Hour clay's gonna be rocking At.
Solo stay with, us
Welcome everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Friday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
gets going right now. Much to discuss with all of you,
and I'm.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Excited to do it.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
So we've got the latest on the tariff negotiation, a
lot of negotiation talk coming our way. Latest on the
tariffs with Trump China, also negotiations with Russia. Right now,
you have Putin getting very aggressive and really setting Trump
(00:33):
off a bit here. I am curious to see where
this goes.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I'm curious to see what happens next. Because if Putin
thinks that he's going to be able to smack down
Trump on the world stage without consequence, I think he's
got another thing coming. I think that he is underestimating
what Donald Trump may be willing to do in order
to get the lever bridge that he needs to bring
(01:02):
this conflict to an end. Look, it's not going to
be easy, but it is necessary. Right we want that
conflict to end as soon as possible. But I want
to dive right into this place. I actually think this
is a fascinating, important story that could be the beginning
(01:22):
of a whole new era of immigration enforcement in this country.
Let's talk about what's gone on here First, a judge
in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, a county judge, has been arrested by
federal law enforcement agents. I believe the US Marshalls have
(01:42):
arrested Judge Hannah Dugan earlier this morning, and this was
done because she is allegedly obstructing federal immigration enforcement. Notably,
in this case, she looks to have taken it upon
(02:03):
herself to to essentially lie to federal agents about a
subject who was to be arrested in.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Her courthouse so that that wanted illegal alien could escape.
So running interference with law enforcement as a county judge,
as an official of the state of Wisconsin, she thought,
you know what I'll do, I'll misdirect law enforcement so
(02:32):
that this guy can get away.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Now, this is really interesting because.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
It is in fact illegal to obstruct federal law enforcement.
And if you remember when it came to January sixth,
if you obstructed an official proceeding, at least if it
was January sixth, we were told over and over by
the media that you should spend years and years of
your life in prison. But in this instance, it's the
(03:00):
first time that I've ever seen play an official of
the state or a judge who has been put on notice,
real notice, that it is not up to her to
try to undermine federal laws and she's not going to
get away with it. This is not just This is
(03:22):
a warning shot for the entire sanctuary jurisdiction con It
is wrong. What these places, what these law enforcement officers
at the local and state level. I understand they're directed
to do it by their superiors, So they are not
given the discretion to assist. If it's the NYPD, if
it's the LAPD, etc. They're not allowed to help under
(03:44):
their own policies. Federal law enforcement when it comes to
immigration and deportation, that is one thing. But to get
in the way Clay, it is illegal. This judge deserves
to be arrested, cash betel the FBI. This new Trump
administration is actually looking at the laws and saying judges
(04:09):
have to obey them too. Sorry if you watch too
much MSNBC, But that's not a get out of jail
free card on immigration enforcement.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
I think this is a great move. Yeah, I think
it's a big move. And I actually am coming right
from the White House buck where I just talked with
Tom Homan and we're going to play some of that.
I think in the third hour, focusing on exactly what
they're going to do to ratchet up this pressure on
(04:40):
individuals involved in trying to cover in violation of federal
law for illegal immigrants. And this is something that I
think we've hit on and I think it's important for
people to understand. And Tom Homan laid it out, and
he's laid it out before, and we've made this clear.
They believe that because Joe Biden let ten million illegals
(05:03):
into this country over the last four years. Tom Homan
just told me Buck that he thinks there's over twenty
million illegals is the number that he would put it
at roughly in the country right now.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
And they have.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Made it so difficult to deport illegals from this country
that he thinks and I think the only explanation for
this is somewhere down the line they're going to get
amnesty and Democrats think they've added a lot of voters.
That's the only thing that makes sense here. And in
order to keep that from becoming a reality, you have
to deport people. It's one thing to stop. That's the
(05:36):
first you know, if what's the first rule of being
a physician, do no harm? Right, we've at least stopped
the harm on the illegal border crossings because effectively the
border is completely shut down. But now they have decided
to make the battle ground whether or not you can
deport these individuals. And you know how they've done it, buck.
They have basically enlisted six hundred some odd fed eral
(06:00):
district court judges who believe that their judicial ruling should
overrule the choice of the executive of the United States,
that is, the president. And so right now they are
of the opinion that they just have to outlast Donald
Trump and maybe AOC comes in or whoever the Democrats
are able to get elected, border gets wide opened again,
(06:23):
and we pour tens of millions of more people right
back into the country. That's the big battle that we're fighting,
and getting people out is where they've decided that they're
going to lay down the Trump train and try to
keep it from continuing to move.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I think that this is also clay when you see
once again the people who claim to be so they're
legal formalists when it comes to every layer of process
upon process. Yeah, to let's be clear, to stop deportations.
I'm not even just talking about in general, stop deep
(07:00):
iportations of criminal illegal aliens. We have to come up
with a better term for this, right, because an illegal
alien has committed a crime. But I mean, look, we
are rational and honest people. We understand there's a difference
between somebody who is in their fifties and has been
here for twenty years illegally and has been working in
the service industry, or you know, there's a difference in
(07:21):
the urgency to get them out or the urgency of
handling their case. Then there is for somebody who's an
MS thirteen gang member who is a threat to kill people,
to rob people, has done that as a wife beater,
is violent, right, they want to stop the ladder from
being deported. We're not even talking about that initial category
right now, but Clay, they're illegal formulasts.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
The law is the law. Oh, we need to bring
an MS thirteen gang member, which is now a designated
terrorist organization, So the gang terrorism thing is and their
narco terrorism has been a real thing for a long
Pablo Escobar was a narco guy and a terrorist, right,
I mean, so these things are not mutually exclusive at all.
But they want to bring him back into the United
(08:05):
States so that we can go through another layer of
kicking him out of the United States and hope that
they can subvert that layer and keep him in the country.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
That's what's really going on. But then they look at
a statute that lays out you cannot obstruct and you
cannot aid and a bet. Right if I if Immigration
and Customs Enforcement Clay was looking for somebody and and
they and you know, and illegal came running up to
my door and knocked on my door and said, hey,
can you hide me. Ice is looking for me. And
(08:35):
I said, yeah, sure, go to the back room. And
then Ice knocks on my door and I say, I
don't know what you're talking about. There's nobody on these premises.
Who's that illegal? I'm obstructing. That's a violation of the
same way that if somebody stole a car and I
went up to the cops and I said, oh, the
guy went that way, when he really went the other way,
or I was hiding them in my home aiding in
(08:56):
a betting, you cannot do that. This judge did that,
and the judge is not above the law. The judge
should be held to the law.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Once you start to get deeper, the Democrats have gotten
used to we just ignore the statutes on immigration in
all respects that we don't like. That's not the game
the Trump administration is going to allow them to play anymore.
It's a big change. It's a huge change, and I
think it's not only This is one where I'm going
to say, the message that you send is incredibly important
(09:27):
not only for the judge who's violating the law, but
also for everyone else out there to understand that there
are now consequences for doing this. This is one where
you are sending not only a message to this individual
judge who likely has violated the law. Based on the
FBI arrest most people arrested federally have violated the law.
(09:49):
Federal prosecutions have pretty good success rates. But it's other
judges looking around and saying, oh, they're actually going to
enforce it. Now. You know what's going to happen, don't
you buck. This judge is going to turn it to
a left wing hero. This judge is going to be
now the new face of judicial restraint that I'm telling
you how this is going to play out. They're going
(10:10):
to say, well, we wish we had had judges who
would have stood up to Adolf Hitler. During Nazi era Germany.
This judge is going to become the new left wing hero,
irrespective of whether she has behaved illegally. Look at who
they decided to make their face at El salvadoran wife
beating human trafficking illegal immigrant who's a member of a gang.
(10:33):
You don't think they're going to use this judge in
the Milwaukee area, in a battleground state as the new
flashpoint cultural pivot for defending Macy in America. They may,
but I don't think that this serves the Democrat parties.
I'm not arguing it's a good decision. I'm just saying
this is what I think they're gonna But I think
(10:54):
I think that's important. I think you're right that there
will be people, certainly on the left. I don't know
if the.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Mainstream Democrat party is going to rally behind this judge.
It really depends as we find more. It depends, I think,
on finding out more about who was she harboring allegedly,
what was this individual story? You know, if this is
a person you know who's got a bunch of DUIs
and like a you know, an assault arrest on his
(11:20):
record or something, I think that becomes a lot harder
for them, and that then may change a little bit
of how they position this. But a judge getting arrested
by US marshals for obstructing federal law enforcement is a
big deal, and we actually need more. The judiciary is
not above the law. That's the real message from this,
(11:41):
and from a lot of what we see going on
right now. We've seemed to be led to believe. First
of all, the judiciary is nonpartisan, which unfortunately is a lie,
just like journalism as nonpartisan. It's just has always been
a lie. The judiciary is not nonpartisan, and I wish
that they were different, but I know it's not different.
And then beyond that, the judiciary has to be held
(12:02):
to the same laws that all the rest of us are,
irrespective of how importantly how powerful their political beliefs may
be on some issue. So this is this is going
to be very interesting because Clay, I don't think this
is the only one. Every major city in America pretty much,
when I say major, I think if you're talking about
(12:22):
over a half a million people, let's say, so every
when I say major, I mean large. Every large city
in America is a sanctuary jurisdiction. As far as I know,
I think every single one whoa what's going on with that?
Where else are they doing this right? Where else are
these kinds of actions being taken that are violations of
law and what's that going to mean? So we'll take
(12:45):
some we'll take some calls on this, we'll dive into
this some more. Also, our friend Pete hegsett that the
Pentagon is taking some very important steps, specifically with regard
to COVID nineteen COVID nineteen related service disruption re in statement.
I can't think of a quicker way to say that
than if you lost your job because of COVID in
the military, you're getting your job back and they're working
(13:07):
on getting that done. So we'll talk about that. I
think that's really important. You know, I've got my family
in town, so my mom, my dad, my sister, they've all.
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Speaker 1 (14:46):
Welcome back in. I think Buck got nervous yesterday after
I went after Michelle Obama amazingly. Everybody's like, finally somebody's
saying it, and I wanted them to pull that STI yeah,
can I just jump in really quickly?
Speaker 2 (15:01):
I was like, I was like, whoa Clay's Clay woke
up today and chose chose to fight. I was gonna
tell you, I don't even want I don't even want to.
I don't want to name any names.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Every person who reached out to me after you chose
so to speak violence yesterday was like I love it. Oh, Okay, Clay,
Uh Clay is uh he's on the side of the
angels apparently look at that. Uh So Michelle Obama I
wanted to say this. She complained that In addition, I mean,
this whole podcast that she's doing Buck, I think is
(15:34):
going to destroy her favorability because people actually find out
what she's like and she's kind of floated. On the
first lady typically doesn't get criticized front her whole thing,
the whole brand is a creation of the machine at
a time when the Democrat machine was that it's absolute
peak of powers in terms of media. I mean, when
(15:56):
they had all the social media, when CNN still mattered.
Like you go back to the Obama years, different universe. Now,
my friends, as you and I know, yeah, totally, and
I think we have time. Let's play cut twenty three.
She all she's done on her podcast so far is
whine about how unfairly treated she is. And now she's
(16:17):
saying it's not just her, it's all black women. Cut
twenty three.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
As black women, we are so easily labeled as angry
and bitter.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
And let me tell you some of the most hurtful
stuff that I.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
Experienced, you know, entering this life of public service at
the heights that we entered into was during my husband's
presidential campaign and just me telling the truth of who
we were. And then you get labeled as angry, you know,
because you talk forcefully or passionately about something, even if
(16:54):
it's in the context of great joy and pride. That
the that the first label they put on us as
black women is that we are angry.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Her entire podcast is just her being angry at the world,
just whining. One hundred millionaire and whining, and she's just
confirming it with every word that this is this is
what a Princeton thesis was when she was an undergrad.
So nothing has changed in forty years, and her Princeton
thesis is Princeton is discriminates against me so much. Meanwhile,
she got into Princeton under the peak of the affirmative
(17:27):
action regime, so she probably had, you know, an average
SAT score compared to the average rather substantially below because
she was in a favored group, which we know the
Supreme Court is now said is actually unconstitutional. Uh Clay, Yeah,
I'm I think the I think the era of people
saying Michelle Obama's gonna run and she's gonna win. No
she's not, and no she's not. So there's that I
(17:51):
was wrong about. I didn't think that she would be
this unlikable on her podcasts. You're right to tell you.
I tried to tell you.
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welcome back into Clay and Buck Clay is in our
nation's capital and he'll bring you some of that. He
sat down with Tom Holman for an interview, so he's
gonna be helming the show in the third hour, I
got I got all family in town here and we're
having a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
With the baby Clay. I keep being told by everybody
that this baby I'm I'm this is external. This is
just what I'm being told. Everyone thinks their baby's the
cutest baby ever, right, I mean you thought you're three
boys with the cutest babies and the history of babies
that I understand. Obviously I think the same of my
little boy. But he's so well behaved that I'm being
warned by family members that this is not normal and
(19:34):
that we should not expect this the next time. He's
sleeping well, like, no challenges, by and large, he's he
just chills all day. He sleeps through the night. It's
I mean, he already sleeps through the night. Yeah, I
mean Carrie wakes him up to feed him and that's it.
But that's he has to be woken up to feed
once and then he goes right back to sleep and
he sleeps through the night. And it's like, I don't
(19:54):
even know. I tell this to people and they're like, what, Yeah,
I've never even I've never heard of that happening. For
what he's my mom had four kids, right, you're you've
got you know, your mom had two two and then
we had three. Yeah, you had three. My Mom's like,
I've never seen this before. So Granny is coming in
here and saying, I've never seen anything like it. So
it's been pretty nice that. I mean, usually them by
(20:17):
far the toughest thing about having a newborn is the
lack of sleep. So if you're handling the sleep already
a couple of weeks in like that is unprecedented. I
don't know what it ever keeps saying are you okay?
And everything? I'm like, am I okay? It is a fiddle,
it's great, baby's adorable, Carrie's doing great.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
You know.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Anyway, I'm just maybe I shouldn't tell people this because
people kind of look at me like what do you
what do you mean? Like it's like I'm skipping the
hazing but still joining the fraternity a little bit, you know,
like you're not dressing in a in a chicken suit
and like, you know, running over to sorority row or something.
I mean, I'm like, no, I just no hazing, just
going right to the fun part. So yeah, that's pretty amazing.
(20:55):
Hopefully it keeps up, but if it does, then that's
the part that usually for the first six months or
so is brutal, because once you get to about six months,
the baby can start to have a little bit of personality,
I mean real personality where you can start to kind
of interact with the kid in a way. Three months
you start to get those smiles stuff like that, which
is good. But but yeah, like prior to that, they're
(21:19):
a lot. But so if that's true, then that is
that's phenomenal. Yeah, if I show up super haggard on
the radio in a couple of weeks, we're all going
to know it's because I jinxed this and now the
baby is, you know, not sleeping and we're having trouble.
But for all of you who have been asking, and
all of you been so supportive, you parents out there
have all welcomed me into your fraternity. It's a co
ed fraternity. We actually had those at my school, a
(21:39):
co ed fraternity. I was like, isn't that not really
a fraternity then? But neither here nor there. But yes,
thank you so much for all your all your well wishes.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
All right, let's talk about Pete Secretary Defense hack Seth.
He is doing some important stuff over at the Pentagon.
I I still there are things that I will never
let go.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Clay, and I don't think you will either, about what
happened during COVID that anybody involved in who has any
bit of integrity, honor, decency should admit that they were completely.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Wrong, admit that what they did was awful, and try
to make amends. Now there are a number of those things, right,
I mean for Fauci, for example, I well, I could
do a three hour show and we could just sit
here and talk about all the awfulness of Fauci. But
one of them was the rejection of natural immunity, one
of the longest standing principles in immunology that exists. Remember,
(22:34):
they just pretended like, oh, you had COVID, you still
have to do all the crazy stuff. What do you
mean I have a positive COVID test. It's been two weeks. Like,
shouldn't I just go about my life? The answer should
have been yes, So effectively we all should have been
done with COVID once you know, I got it, you
know in the.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
First wave did you get it for? Did you get
hit in the first wave? When did you get it?
I got it early, but I didn't have any real issues. Well,
first wave, I guess would have I had it in
like November of time, digonal COVID, you know, not COVID zero.
Not COVID zero, I mean original COVID with the with
the sugar, not the corn serius. I had the I
had the og COVID on h in November of twenty Yeah,
(23:12):
so yeah, I got. I got that same I got
in the fall of twenty I also got. Anyway, my
point is that there are things that are just unforgivable
and people should at least try to get forgiveness for it, nonetheless.
And one of them is anybody who was a law enforcement,
military first response, anyone who got fired because they didn't
want to get the vaccine. Now we know there's no
doubt whatsoever the vaccine offered zero protection to other people.
(23:35):
So the notion that you should have been forced to
get a vaccine because of what other people want for you,
because you are a risk to them was completely as
a total fallacy. And there's no argument about this. That
people were fired from the military, thousands and thousands of
people fired from military fire. And please, I know you're
gonna call me from a different job or a different sector.
(23:56):
Anybody who lost their job over this in the government,
and it's within the power of the Trump administration to
fix this. It needs to be fixed. Private sector is
a little tougher, but still should be fixed. Here is
Pete Hegseth giving it an update. This is cut one
on the reinstatements for service members who were separated from
or taken adverse action against because of COVID.
Speaker 6 (24:18):
Today, I'm signing a memorandum that directs the Undersecretary of
Defense for Personnel and Readiness to provide additional guidance to
the boards that are reviewing these cases concerning the review
of requests from service members and former service members adversely
impacted by COVID nineteen vaccine mandate. The guidance also will
facilitate the removal of adverse actions on service members solely
(24:41):
for refusing to take the COVID nineteen vaccine, including discharge
upgrades and less than fully honorable discharges for individuals separated
for refusing to take the COVID nineteen vaccines. So we're
trying to scrub all that, clean, all that up. Will
also facilitate appropriate remedies for service members who have suffered
additional career setbacks resulting from the previous administration's unlawful vaccine mandate.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
I love it, Clay. Yeah, and it's one that Trump promised,
and I get it. There are people out there listening
and they're saying, oh, Trump was not perfect on COVID,
and you're correct, but he was way better than Joe
Biden was. And if he had won reelection in twenty
twenty and been able to stay in office, you would
have never had a COVID shot mandate. You wouldn't have
(25:30):
had it go to the Supreme Court.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
In May of twenty twenty, I go to the White
House at Trump's invitation and sit down with him to
actually talk about being CIA director, which now I can
speak to you all about very openly because some of
our peers ended up taking cabinet position, some of our friends.
But I talked to Trump about being CIA director for
the twenty twenty one term. This was a real conversation
that I've mentioned before in the show. It was a
real conversation that.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
We had in the oval. Uh, And He's then brought
it up several times in front of Clay, which was
pretty funny because I I think I've said it on
the air. Yeah, I think he did say it on
the air. Yeah, but I remember being there in May
of twenty twenty in the White House. I keep saying
the date. Just you remember, this is very early in
our whole COVID saga. Nobody in the White House is
wearing masks. Trump shook my hand, No masks. It was
(26:18):
all you know, this whole They like they were trying
to live in reality but not, you know, freak everybody out.
So I'm just saying there was a clear understanding that
there was a paranoia and a freak out going on.
And Trump was very clear to me, He's like, look,
I don't want to overrule all the states on this,
because remember what if he had overruled What if Trump
had overruled the states federally and actually there had been
(26:41):
some of these interventions, some of these things had gone wrong,
and what if all of a sudden, Texas had three
Legitimately they lied about the data a million different ways,
but I mean legitimately had two or three times the
COVID deaths, then a state like California, it would have
been a political disaster and the whole thing. So I
understand why in May of twenty twenty he was willing
(27:02):
to allow states to do the federalist thing and take
their own, make their own choices. The separation, Remember, the
vaccine mandate thing is one hundred percent Biden. Trump had
nothing to do with that. That happened after he was
no longer in office, and it is completely inexcusable. And
we have a real debt to those service members, to
(27:23):
those law enforcement officers, those first responders, nurses, doctors, anybody
who got fired from their job because they wouldn't get
the COVID shot. We have to make that up to them,
and Pete's taking Secretary of Defense Hegsat is taking important
steps to that end. I think it's the least we
could do, and I would submit. Remember, but for Trump's
(27:43):
Supreme Court appointments, was it six' three that the government
couldn't mandate THE covid shot basically for everybody in the whole.
COUNTRY i think it finished sixty. Three and if you,
remember the questioning From sotomayor And Kati Brown jackson in,
particular was. Moronic they had not done the basic, research
(28:07):
wasn't It sotomayor who said there were hundreds of thousands
of kids hospitalized WITH Covid she i mean just legitimately
had no. Idea as a part of her, questioning you
could tell that she had not done the most basic
research on this. Issue but For trump getting Three Supreme
court opinions, appointments this opinion would have gone out and
(28:30):
everybody In america basically would have been forced to get
THE covid shot as a condition of. Employment AND i
mean the fact That biden got shot. DOWN a lot
of people now forget, it but it was AND i
give credit to the judges that were in the. Majority,
remember for a long, time nobody would stand up and
(28:50):
say The constitution matters the most in times of war and.
Crisis it's actually when we're in peril and when we
face real difficulty that the fabric of The constitution matters the.
Most and they were, willing don't, forget huge majorities of
The american public were willing to throw The constitution on
a dumpster fire because they were afraid OF. Covid they
(29:14):
decided that it didn't matter. ANYMORE i completely disagree even
with some of The conservatives when it comes to their
jurisprudence that allowed them to or that they thought allowed
the government to shut down churches because of an aerosolol's.
Vibrus that's. There they were, Wrong they were, scared and
they were cowards and they were. Wrong you actually can't do,
THAT i, agree AND i hope that not while people
(29:34):
are gathering to go to weed. Stores, sorry, no you
know WHAT i.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Mean, like you gotta remember it Wasn't it wasn't shelter in, place,
everybody and if you, don't you're gonna.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Die it was you, know go To Whole, foods go
to your weed, store go to the liquor. Store but
you can't go to. Church. Okay one of my, favorites
buck was remember that they kept open some like there's
an ice cream shop in my neighborhood that never shut.
Down ice, cream cupcake. Stores those were considered essential, businesses
(30:03):
so you could go to. Those you couldn't go to the.
Church you, Know i'm gonna tell you. Something it's interesting
because you know you've made, This you've called this long.
Shot we're weaving, now you've called this long shot About
Andrew cuomo being being the mayor Of New York city
and the comeback that you think he's gonna. Have now
up to this, point you're, right he's running and he's
in the. Lead, However cuomo is, horrible not just ON.
(30:24):
Covid my Friend Mark simone On worr reminded me of
this recent WHEN i was talking to. Him, cuomo so
you can go to The Buck. Brief we had a
nice conversation about, this the podcast and the Claim buck.
Network cuomo was the guy who did the no no you,
know the basically you get released no. BAIL i forget
what the phrase is, there you, know no cash BAIL
(30:45):
i think was the. Way but the jail break, bill
that's what the jail break. Bill that Was. Cuomo he
actually did horrible things as the, governor but he was
so bad ON covid that it overshadowed a lot of
the terrible stuff that everybody disliked before. Then and then
the fact that The democrats pushed him out for grabbing
the lady around the stomach and kissing one on the
cheek or. Whatever it was like, this you, know the
(31:05):
the being, hands the. Stuff i'm not Sure clay he's
gonna have as easy a time as once once other
people get. It, remember no one Thought Bill deblasia was
going to be mayor Of New. York there was a
WOMAN i think her name Is Christine. QUINN i can't.
REMEMBER i think that's.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Right who was expected to be the far and away
AND i think as people find out when you look
back At cuomo ON, covid he looked back at him
on crime and a whole range of issues he was
he was a terrible, governor. TERRIBLE i think the primaries In, june,
THOUGH i, mean it's gonna be here in like eight,
weeks nobody's gonna even hardly be paying. ATTENTION i did see.
(31:39):
This you know who just Endorsed, Cuomo Kirsten, gillibrand one
of the. Senators but you know what's significant to me
about that. Endorsement she was the one who really forced
out Al franken over that picture on the airplane on
the transport where he's pretending to grab a girl's boobs
(31:59):
when she's. ASLEEP i, mean like a, DECADE i don't
like to be in this. Position i'm. Not they did
al frankin. Dirty, OKAY i think Al franken's a, jerk
but that was. Wrong they actually should not have pushed
him out for. That, okay that was not that did
not rise to the level of you, KNOW i just
think it's an incredible sign of me, too being over.
(32:20):
That now she's Endorsing, cuomo who was actually forced out
for legitimately touching a.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Woman. AGAIN i think it's a joke that he got
forced out in particular over, this that there's a lot
of reasons that he was awful as. Governor but now
she's backing in and coming and supporting. Him we'll talk
a little bit about that. More BUT i think he's
gonna be THE i think he's gonna. WIN i don't
think it's gonna be, close AND i would love to be,
wrong BUT I i unfortunately do not THINK i. Am
first round of THE Nfl draft was last, Night. BUCK
(32:50):
i got to, Azel, yeah you watch any, minute my
dad maybe turn it on for a. Minute and he
started he was, like, Oh i'm so happy, That LIKE
i think one of the guys was Named. Abdul that
does that sound?
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Right?
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Yeah well The giants got a Great your dad's A giants, fan, right, yes,
yes he was all excited about. Something you Got Abdul,
carter who is a elite defensive. Player but then they
jumped in and Got Jackson dart so they got a
brand new quarterback to Another Ole miss. Quarterback so your
dad is A giants, fan probably happy the draft was
going on last night and you could have had some
(33:23):
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Here clay for, talkbacks for calls for all that Good
oh we Got Uncle bill coming up next talking About,
trump The White, house all that good.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Stuff Uncle bill's gonna lay down the. Law but what
have you got for? Us and then we've Got Tom
holman coming up at the top of the third, hour
which should be outstandings as well TO uh to break
it all. Down BUT i Think tim In omaha Is,
tim And omaha is still. There Oh, Man yeah you Got.
Tim thanks for.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Listening oh just earlier when you were talking about THE
uh The saintsbury cities and how they're not cooperating with THE,
FIT i don't know why If trump doesn't direct some
of his agency heads to to apply the same, policy,
like if you want to cooperate with, us we'll cooperate with.
(35:53):
You if you choose not to cooperate with, us we'll
cut you.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Off, yeah thanks for the. CALL i think the question
that he's kind of getting at is if a federal
judge can be arrested for violating the, law how are
many of the sanctuary city policies not direct contraventions of federal?
Law AND i Asked Tom holman a bit about that
in the third. Hour you'll get his. ANSWER i think
this arrest of the Judge buck signals an acceleration internally
(36:20):
of their willingness to go after people who are stopping
them from doing their. Jobs, well it sends a very
powerful message to anybody else who thinks that they're going
to obstruct immigrations and customs and enforcement. Efforts so, YEAH
i don't think you want to be on the wrong
side of this administration when it comes to their law
enforcement efforts on. Immigration we'll talk To bill O'Reilly about
(36:42):
this coming up here a few. Minutes Uncle bill will
be with. Us a lot more coming and, then like
we Said Tom, homan third, Hour clay's gonna be rocking At.
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