July 30, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show dives into a wide-ranging and hard-hitting discussion on the state of the U.S. economy, media bias, and the ongoing conflict in Gaza. Clay and Buck open with commentary on the summer heat and the media’s recurring narrative linking it to climate change, pushing back with historical context and humor.
The hosts then shift to breaking economic news, celebrating a stronger-than-expected 3% GDP growth rate in Q2 2025, which they credit to President Trump’s economic policies, including tariffs and trade negotiations. They argue this growth defies mainstream economic predictions and underscores the failure of so-called “experts” and consensus-driven analysis. The conversation critiques the Federal Reserve’s reluctance to lower interest rates, suggesting that doing so could further ignite economic momentum.
In a broader critique of institutional thinking, Clay and Buck explore how Trump’s business acumen and risk-taking mindset have outperformed elite academic economists. They also highlight how high mortgage rates and unchecked illegal immigration are straining the housing market and driving up the cost of living, reinforcing the need for strong immigration enforcement.
The hour takes a sharp turn into media accountability, focusing on a New York Times front-page story that used a misleading photo of a malnourished child in Gaza. The child was later revealed to have preexisting health conditions, not starvation. The hosts accuse the Times of intentional propaganda aimed at vilifying Israel and manipulating global opinion. They call out the lack of transparency in the correction and draw parallels to past media failures, including the Russia collusion narrative and historical cover-ups.
Listeners are reminded of the importance of media skepticism, especially in high-stakes geopolitical conflicts. The segment ends with a passionate defense of Israel, a call for journalistic integrity, and a warning about the dangers of misinformation.
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome it, everybody to the Wednesday edition of the Clay
Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Much to discuss with all
of you across this great land of ours.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Thanks for being here.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
It is steamy down here in South Florida, I can
tell you that much. I'm hearing other places too. Feel
in the heat. Feel in the heat.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Good time.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
It's hot in the summer. Every year they seem to
decide that, oh, my goodness, this is the impact of
global warming and everything else. But I can impress upon
you that it has been hot for a long time.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
This is the kind of a student analysis we bring
to you on Clay and Buck. Reminder, it gets hot
in the middle of summer in much of this country
of ours. So yes, indeed true story. And if you
have the chance, this is a great time to get
into some shade, preferably despite what the Europeans think, indoors
with air conditioning, because air conditioning is one of the
(00:52):
greatest inventions of the last one hundred years or so.
And keep back, relax, listen to some Clay and Buck.
That is the way to beat the heat, my friends,
best way to do it. So we've got some very
good news. Were to dive into on the economy, and
then we have some distressing but not surprising news about
(01:12):
the flagship propaganda newspaper of the Democrats, the New York Times,
that we will dive into, as well as some follow
up to stories from yesterday. Donald Trump also a whole
bunch of commentary on Gaza on the Wall Street Journal
suits that he now has the deep state and more.
(01:35):
So we've got a lot to dive in. Well, let's
start though with this, because I think it is one
of those times where even the people who clay pretty
much spend all day thinking about how to bash Trump,
undermine him, say he's terrible, doesn't know what he's doing,
they're having to step back and say, you know what,
it's pretty good. What's going on with this economy. Actually,
(01:58):
I wasn't right when those people weren't right when they
said tariff, we're gonna ruin everything. Let's start with this
Q two quarter two growth rate, CNBC's Rick Santelli laying
it out for you.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Play one.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
We are expecting to number round two and a half percent,
and they're out up three percent, up three percent better
than expected. That would be the highest level since the
third quarter of twenty four, when it was up three
point one percent on the consumption side, up one point four,
very close to estimates.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Up one point four would be the.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Best since the last quarter of twenty four.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Clay, it's a surprise to people who thought Trump was
going to tank the economy. But I'm just going to say,
we're gonna I think we're gonna have to ride along
on Trump's victory lap here for a moment. We told
everybody he's earned the right to the trade negotiations the
way that he wants to. He has earned the space
(02:58):
for everyone to take a beat. You said, don't sell.
By the way, that was very good advice. We're not
a financial show, but better advice here than you get
on a lot of other financial shows. Don't sell. Trump
knows what he's doing. Three percent growth, and just real quickly,
before we die, here's the NBC's Joe Kernin and Rick
Santelli just having a laugh at all the Trump haters
(03:19):
on the economy, because that is richly deserved. Right now,
Play two.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
The left and people that don't like the president and
don't want things to work, and you know, like Center
Elizabeth Warre will come on and say inflation's out of
control and the economy is getting killed by what's happening.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
By these tariffs.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
This three percent with the market at new highs, and
really we haven't seen inflation, you know, go up back
to three for maybe it will this week, maybe we'll
see it.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
But none of these horrible things have happened.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
But they still talk like it's happening.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
It's amazing.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
The Democrats, of course, as you pointed out, really don't
want to see the current administration have some success. But
there's no doubt that this is some success. We're seeing
more Wor's power, we're seeing better equities, inflation, Inflation really
hasn't changed much in the last.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Year or so.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I think what you should start to contemplate, and I
tweeted this out after the numbers came out, is if
the so called experts are consistently proven wrong time after time,
what do they actually know? And I know we've talked
about this before, but there's a great write up and
(04:30):
I wish I could remember the book that dives into
expertise and experts are almost always wrong because what.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
They find is there is a huge.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Sort of cluster effect on experts because especially in the
modern era, people are afraid of being wrong, and so
a consensus settles in and nobody really is outside of
the consensus, because if you're wrong and outside of the consensus,
the fear is of being ostracized and everything else. And
(05:07):
the people who end up being the most right are
actually I think it was a really deep dive on hedgehogs.
That's people who don't go super deep on necessarily everything,
but have a wide variety of perspectives. They tend to
be better at forecasts than people who are so called
experts in one field. And what we're seeing with economics
is we were told if there are tariffs put in place,
(05:31):
we're going to have a great depression style economic reality.
And you saw everybody flood the market collapse in April,
the likes of which frankly, we hadn't really seen since COVID,
And we said on this show, as you pointed out,
hey just stay calm. If you happen to have added resources,
now is a good time to buy. Stocks are up
(05:53):
nearly thirty percent just since April. If you bought the dip,
if you just stayed in, you and fine, if you
just didn't pay attention to day to day, and so
I think there's this obsession with believing that experts are
going to be right, and then almost every time, I mean, look,
they were wrong on inflation, they were wrong on tariffs,
They've been wrong economically on everything.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
They were wrong on COVID, across the board. Yeah, you know,
with the very few exceptions. I saw our friend doctor
McCarry on Fox this morning just talking about all the
amazing things. That's why we had him on recently to
talk about the FDA and how streamlining that could mean
cures for people a lot faster, could save could save
lives and also add quality of life. Right, there's cures,
(06:40):
there's also effective treatment which can be a game changer
for people with a whole range of really debilitating diseases.
And he's an expert who said the right things and
Trump during COVID, and Trump has shown him what happens
when you're right, which is you should be elevated. What
you see the expert class in general, though, Clay is
(07:01):
they all fall prey to consensus thinking, the echo chamber effect.
This was even a problem back when I was in
the CIA as an analyst there. You mentioned the hedgehogs,
people that are that have depth on things versus a
little bit on a lot of different things. People who
had been, in my experience, the people who had been
covering an issue for a very long time were the
(07:23):
worst at predicting what the next thing was that was
going to happen. The people who had a very good
skill set to understand what matters right now, what's likely
to happen next, were far better at predictive analysis. Because
once you've been doing something for a long time, you
tend to think that whatever everybody else thinks doing that
(07:43):
same thing is the answer, right that that's the way
it's going to be. Certainly that is the case the
case in the economy. And why do we all care
about this, Well, because it affects the price of everything
that you were buying, the gas you were putting in
your car, your ability to pay your mortgage, all of this.
The piece of this that is me right now. And
this is what's remarkable, And I think this is why
Trump's frustration has boiled over on the FED issue. And
(08:07):
there were some very funny memes from when he went
and visited the FED. Yes, redo of the building that
they were, but the fact that rates haven't even dropped yet,
that would be the kind of rocket fuel you'd add
to the economy if things were stalled out a little bit.
This economy is already humming, and they've kept the rates
(08:28):
artificially high.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Here's my concern now, buck, and I haven't heard anybody
say this yet. I'm wondering if the Fed's gonna say
the economy's growing too fast and we can't cut rates
now because we can't add the accelerant. In other words,
they're going to go from hey, I just that's my
concern now that we've hit three percent growth, and look,
(08:50):
we need to get the economy really roaring. We need
to get four percent growth, three and a half percent growth.
That would be transformative. It would actually give us a
chance if you start to run the math of really
kind of knocking out some of these major budget deficits.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Growth cures everything. Right.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
If you've ever worked in a business, I remember I
had a buddy and he's I said, how'd you do?
And he ended up selling his company for over one
hundred million dollars. This is about fifteen years ago. I
said how'd you do? He said, Man, I screwed up everything.
I So you know that's interesting. I went back and
I looked at it, and we had to make a
decision so rapidly. But he said, the company was growing
(09:30):
so fast that I didn't have to be perfect. I
just had to steer in the right direction. And for
those of you out there that have ever been at
a company that's growing rapidly, you're not all going to
make the right decisions because you're having to the analogy
I've used before, it's like trying to change a tire
while you're driving a car. It's going to be really
sometimes messy. Right, But if you get that growth rate going,
(09:53):
if we can start really humming economically, we don't have
to be perfect on everything. Four percent growth in the
NAW economy would cure a lot of the ills that
are out there.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Well.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
You also have, I think, with Trump in many ways
the epitome of the guy who does versus the guy
who conceptualizes right, a guy who has negotiated deals, and look,
Trump's has negotiated deals that haven't gone his way when
he was in business. Obviously, there have been successes and failures,
but to your point, every great success in business, every
(10:28):
person who has been a great success in business, has
had many failures along the way, because that is how
you learn. That is a form of expertise that should
be far more valued when you're thinking about who to
put in charge of big decisions for the country instead
of I have some advanced degree from some economics program.
Wasn't it to President Bartlett from the fantasyland of the
(10:50):
West Wing, wasn't here like a PhD from Harvard or
something in economics. And that's what all the Libs think
would solve all of our problems. Most of the PhDs
in economics from from all of the Ivy League schools
in this country would stink at managing this economy.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Compared to Trump, it wouldn't even be close. Well, And
that's why I think there. Look, I love it. I
mean I'm a history nerd, but history professors are good
at telling you why something happened one hundred years after
it happened. We've seen some of these historians that go on.
Remember Michael Beschlow said, if Trump wins, they're just going
to line you up and shoot you.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
You know, and you're like, what what are you talking about?
I don't even know if.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
We're still He actually said that, Yes, that's not even
he actually said that.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
He actually said that, and he is I think a
good historian at looking at things that are one hundred
years old. Economists are very good at telling you why
something happened after it's already happened. They are very bad
as a group at predicting for you where we are headed.
And I think it's just worth contemplating. Challenging conventional wisdom
(11:55):
is usually how you win. I don't know how many
people out there really study things, but if you do
the same thing that everybody else does, it's going to
be very difficult for you to get ahead.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
You sometimes have to take risk. Trump.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
You can criticize him on a lot. The guy understands negotiations,
He understands leverage. He certainly understands interest rates, which are
the foundation of any real estate investment deal basically that
is done anywhere. And I hope that they're going to
start to reduce rates because they are too high. And look,
(12:29):
here is the number one issue in the economy today.
Number one issue. Housing is out of sorts because we
went from two and a half percent mortgage to over
seven percent in record time. And if you were lucky
enough to get a two and a half, you're frozen
in place there and if you were unfortunate enough to
get a seven, you haven't been able to read by
yet and unlock the entire housing market.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
That is true, but I think you also have to
pile on top of that, Clay, ten million people came
into the country illegally in four years. Ten certainly help
the cost of living for anyone in any city. There
are people running all kinds of scams where they have
illegals that are, you know, in a home that's meant
for four people max. They got thirty illegals living. They're
(13:12):
all paying them, you know, two hundred and fifty bucks
a month or something. This is all over the country
as we and this is another part of why the
immigration enforcement that Trump is undergoing right now is one
of the best things that could happen.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
For people who work for a living.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
It will help their wages, it will help the cost
of housing. What you're saying is obviously also true, which
is the rate issue that should start.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
To be ameliorated. That's the word of the day. There
you go. It's a nice word, right, thank you well.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
That one out that could be certainly done in the
months ahead, and I hope it will be. I have
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Speaker 2 (15:26):
Appreciate all of you hanging.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Out with us as we are rolling through the Wednesday
edition of the program. A lot of you weighing in
as you always do, and we appreciate all of you
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hit this. This is nice and I appreciate all the
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(16:19):
he's absolutely right, absolutely dead on, just like your analysis
all the time. Thanks gentlemen.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
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has altered the way that people are talking about what's
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Speaker 1 (18:53):
All right, welcome back in to Clay and Buck here.
And we've got a story that we absolutely need to
discuss here with all of you. And it's because this
is getting a lot of attention, and even I think
some people out there who are generally or overall supportive
(19:15):
of Israel in its fight against Hamas have started to
waver a little bit for a reason that would be
understandable at least with the specific goal of trying to
pressure the IDF to get more food to the children
of Gaza. That's the basic narrative, that's the storyline that's
(19:35):
out there. Trump has been talking about it, others have
been talking about it. In fact, here we can get
President Trump on Gaza. This has cut ten. This is
the latest thing that he had to say about it.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Play it.
Speaker 8 (19:49):
I think everybody who lives there pretty cold hearted or
of course to that nuts. There's nothing you can say
other than it's sera. When you see the kids and
those who gets into whether they talk starvation or not,
those are kids that are starving. I mean they are starving,
(20:09):
and you see the mothers they love them so much.
This is nothing they seem to be able to do.
They got to get them food, and we'll get to get.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Them for them.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Clay, As we have been discussing here on the program,
a couple of things. First off, it strikes a lot
of us as contrary to what we would think the
Israeli government and the IDF would do, based on all
their actions up to this point, that they would willfully
let children starve if there was a way to prevent that.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
I don't believe it.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
And I'm not saying that there aren't civilian casualties that
have happened. I'm not saying there is not malnutrition going
on inside of Gaza. I'm just saying I don't believe
that it's a policy of the IDF two or the
Israeli government these Raeli people to starve out. And you
hear this term genocide being used now by people who
are very critical of Israel, and even some who aren't
(21:00):
always that critical of Israel. I've been looking at this
and thinking to myself, hold on a second, what is
really going on here? This is very important what is
actually happening in Gaza. First of all, as we know,
the narrative is now starting to come out more than
it is in fact hamas that is preventing the distribution
(21:22):
of food and seizing food that is being provided to
Gaza for the civilian population there. That's point one, but
point two, Clay. This New York Times story that on
it was a main story for the New York Times.
They had a.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Page newspaper for those of us old people like me
who still read the newspaper. Literally the front page story,
the one that they considered the most important to tell
to their readers on that day.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
It was just a few days ago, and there was
a story where they had a photo of a I mean,
it was a horrible looking photo in terms of emotionally devastating.
You see a child who is very skeletal, if you will,
I mean, looks extremely malnourished, in the hands of a woman.
(22:11):
And the whole point of the story based on this photo,
and they chose this photo. The whole point of the
story is that the children of Gaza are starving to death.
Look at this because it looked like somebody who would
be starving to death, something horrible beyond words, something that
no moral person could countenance, could sit by and allow
to happen. And so it obviously got a lot of
(22:35):
attention all over the world. The problem with the story
is that the photo is not an accurate representation of
what is going on. Here is the New York Times
appending an editor's note an editor's note to a story
about Mohammed Zacharia al much Mutawak, a child in Gaza
who's diagnosed with severe malnutrition. After publication, this is from
(22:57):
the New York Times PR Department publication, the Times learned
that he had pre existing health conditions. Please read more below.
They give more of this clay. This individual has this child,
it's still very sad story, has sistic fibrosis and that's
actually and also other pre existing health conditions. It's not
(23:19):
a starvation story. They're showing a child who's starving, who's
not actually starving, but has other pre existing health conditions,
which they have now offered. They ran a photo that
is effectively a fake in terms of the story, which
is what they were telling on the front page of
the New York Times to tell everybody that the Israelis
are starving the children of Gaza.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Yeah, and our friend Carol Markowitz, who's in our podcast network,
been on the show a lot. She tweeted this as well.
The brother of this individual was all, who is healthy
and has evidently no issues, was also cropped out of
the picture. And she says, and I think she's right,
should be published on the front page of the paper,
(24:02):
the correction, not some side x account. And she said,
if you fell for the hoax, it's on it. This
is very important.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
They didn't share the correction on the official New York
Times account with millions and millions of followers. They shared
it from the PR Department's tiny account that nobody is
going to see or pay any attention to. And Clay,
you already pointed this out too. They had in the
same photo they cropped out a child who looks wealthy
(24:33):
and healthy.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Should have raised issues in the mind of any editor
that saw this. Right, Wait a minute, one kid is
healthy and the other one is starving. How often do
you think that actually happens in the same family.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Never.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
I mean, I've got multiple kids. I can't imagine a
scenario where one of my kids looks healthy and the
other one is starving, and I'm saying, well, it's because
the whole family is unable to eat. I mean, I
think you probably would be trying to feed your family
equally there, So it should have raised a lot of issues.
And I would say this quick, yeah, go ahead ahead. Now,
(25:10):
remember when they got the Jason Blair story. I mean
that's probably been twenty some od.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
He was a serial fabricator, but he was a young
black reporter, and they were desperate to tell stories of
how diverse their new newsroom was.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
And you know, yeah, but they put a huge front
page story out saying this was all fabricated, we got
this wrong. To Carrol's point, I would argue, this is
far more significant because the things that he was making up,
by and large, were just kind of like stories about
wife in West Virginia or whatever it was. And look,
(25:41):
you don't want to make that stuff up. But this
actually alters the terrain of geopolitical negotiation and is intended
to send the message of Israel as intentionally starving young children.
And they use this image for that reason.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
It is wildly inflammatory against Israel and against Jews worldwide.
And that was the purpose of the story, to make
them Israel the Jews, to make them look like the
bad guys. After they suffered their own nine to eleven
(26:19):
on October seventh, after they had the most horrific terrorist
attack since nine to eleven perpetrated against them, and and
with a level of sadism on the on from Hamas
that is shocking to the conscience. Honestly, even for those
of us who were did things in the g watt
and saw how evil al Qaeda was and what they
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would do, shocking to the conscience. But this reminds me
Clay of really this is this is on brand in
a sense for the New York Times. The New York
Times is the paper that that published Walter Duranti, who
on behalf of communism, lied about mass starvation in the
Soviet Union. Right, this is one of the most infamous
(27:03):
episodes of twentieth century journalism. Should have told you all
you need to know about the lib mindset and journals.
But Walter Duranti lied to cover up mass starvation in
the Soviet Union back in the nineteen early nineteen thirties,
and he actually got a Pulitzer Prize for it. Clay,
doesn't this all ring a bell? Just like the fake
(27:26):
Russia collusion stories. Those people got pulletzers, they still have them.
The purpose is not the truth. The purpose is manipulation
of the masses of the minds of the readers, and
the purpose here was very clearly. Now is the chance,
after we saw how horrific Hamas was, and they took
(27:46):
two hundred plus hostages, and they raped women, and they
murdered babies, and they did all these horrible things intentionally,
and on behalf of the people planning October seventh. I mean,
this was their plan. This wasn't some secondary thing that
just happened after all that. Now is the chance to
try to seize the moral high ground for the pro
(28:08):
Palestinian pro Hamas lunatics. And we're supposed to think it's
just an error play that The New York Times runs
a story that is essentially a fake story on when
you use a photo and say it is a thing
or represents a thing and it does not, which is
starvation of a child. That is not starvation that caused
that child to look that way, as anybody who knows
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anything about the diseases that he had pre existing knows.
And then they cut out the photo of the healthy
looking little boy in.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
The same photo it should began to it over again
on the front page. I would also point this out,
and I think it's very significant. All of their errors
have been in favor of Gaza. Do you remember soon
after October seventh when Israel started to respond after the
October seventh attack, and all of the major news outlets
(29:01):
I believe it was, they said that Israel had struck
a hospital and killed tons of people. Do you remember
that story? It was on the front page everywhere, and
it later came out that it was a misfired rocket
from Gaza that actually from that is from Hamas, that
actually hit the hospital in Gaza, and so they allowed
the story to be Oh, Israel's intentionally targeting hospitals and
(29:23):
killing innocent people. Put it on the front page of
the newspaper. If your errors look, reporting is hard, right,
Let's be honest. Trying to tell the truth is a
hard job when there are lots of people trying to
manipulate you all the time. So I will say that,
but if your errors always run the same direction, it
is a flaw of your reporting that should be addressed
(29:44):
because it is a sign.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Well, I don't think it's a slaw. I think that
gives them too much Creditally, I think that the mission,
the mission is the propaganda. Actually, I don't think that
this is a mistake. I think that they know that
this is what they are supposed to do. They playing
for their team with this. And what does it say
if the starvation and the New York Times is still saying, oh,
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there's mass starvation in Gaza, what are the chances that
there are children And this is a horrific thing to
even think about, but that there are children who are
starving to death in massive numbers in Gaza. There are
skeletal looking children who are clinging to life all over Gaza.
This is what we are being told by the New
York Times. But they happen to pick a photo of
(30:29):
somebody that is not starving, a young child who is
not starving. Very sad story, assistic fibrosis, but he's not starving,
and that's the photo they put on the front page
of the newspaper. You're supposed to think that this is
an error made in good faith. Absolutely not, Absolutely not.
And the fact that they won't really correct it in
a way that will change the perception of the people
(30:52):
who read the original story all over Clay.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
It was picked up all over the world.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Yeah, it's not just New York Times readers, It's all
over the internet. It's everywhere. What do you think it
looks like, you know, in the Middle East newspapers and websites,
to the degree that those things really exist, Well, what
do you think it looks like there?
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Now?
Speaker 1 (31:10):
After that photo? What do their readers think? It is reckless?
Beyond words, The New York Times is a disgrace. It
is not an honest entity. It is not a good
faith journalistic operation. They are pure left wing anti civilization propagandists,
and everyone needs to read their articles with that in mind.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
That's how I feel about it. At least so I.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Think it's true, but I think at a bare minimum
the pressure I think Carol Markowitz is right. You can't
have an error that egregious and just post from your
New York Times pr account, which a you know, probably
what one in ten thousand people will actually see the correction.
You should have to put on the front page the
full picture that you edited and acknowledged that you told
(31:57):
something that was fundamentally untrue. That impacts in a significant
way the discussion around how Israel and Gaza. Israel is
handling the situation in Gaza.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
You're completely right.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
I would just add to this, the people who picked
that photo did not do so in error. They picked
that photo because their fundamental role here is to try
to create at least moral equivalency between Israel and Hamas,
if not. The Palestinians are the good guys, Israel the
(32:27):
bad guys. That's their actual job in their minds.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Also, I will point out, remember all those people out
there that were supposed to be fact finding experts on
misinformation and disinformation. This seems like a pretty egregious example
of that that should be widely covered by other media
outlets that care about the truth. Are you seeing any
of those articles, know any of those media discussions. I'm
not seeing it anywhere.
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Speaker 9 (34:39):
Hey, keep up the good work. I can't tell whether
Trump thinks Israel starving the people on purpose or not.
If he uses it would be ironic considering a couple
of weeks ago he chastised everybody for falling for the
Epstein hoax. So you think he's do you think this
(34:59):
is this is real?
Speaker 1 (35:00):
This is really important, This is really important. There is
widespread reporting that I think is reliable, that there is
that food is not getting to people insufficient you know,
insufficient quantity in Gaza, including children who are probably or
who rather are malnourished, not yet starving that but malnourished
as a result of it. But Hamas is preventing the
(35:22):
food from getting to them, is the point. And so
then to make this an even more emotional issue, they
pick this photo and they say, oh, see this is
what Israel is deciding to do to people. So there's
the who's responsible for it? And then there's the degree
of how much is food not getting so Hamas is
preventing food from getting through in the numbers that it
(35:44):
should be getting or in the quantity it should be
getting through. And then the New York Times is picking
this story to make it seem like this is an
Israeli plot or Israeli decision.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Also, if Israel wanted to kill everyone in Gaza, they
could have done it two years ago. They could have
carpet bombed everyone and legitimately killed everybody who lives in
gos It. They have the wherewithal and the power and
the ability to do that. Look at the attempted tactical strikes.
(36:15):
Look at what happened in Iran. They pretty much only
killed They hit apartment building units that that Iranian nuclear
scientists were in and didn't touch anybody else.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
And why let's just put this in the cold, hard reality,
real polity for a second. At this stage of the game,
Israel is going to intentionally starve children to death to
turn the whole world against it. Of course, not that's insane.
I'm not saying children aren't starving. I'm saying, look at
who's responsible for preventing the food from getting to them,
and look at how The New York Times is then
(36:48):
trying to lie about that culpability.
Welcome it, everybody to the Wednesday edition of the Clay
Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Much to discuss with all
of you across this great land of ours.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Thanks for being here.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
It is steamy down here in South Florida, I can
tell you that much. I'm hearing other places too. Feel
in the heat. Feel in the heat.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Good time.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
It's hot in the summer. Every year they seem to
decide that, oh, my goodness, this is the impact of
global warming and everything else. But I can impress upon
you that it has been hot for a long time.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
This is the kind of a student analysis we bring
to you on Clay and Buck. Reminder, it gets hot
in the middle of summer in much of this country
of ours. So yes, indeed true story. And if you
have the chance, this is a great time to get
into some shade, preferably despite what the Europeans think, indoors
with air conditioning, because air conditioning is one of the
(00:52):
greatest inventions of the last one hundred years or so.
And keep back, relax, listen to some Clay and Buck.
That is the way to beat the heat, my friends,
best way to do it. So we've got some very
good news. Were to dive into on the economy, and
then we have some distressing but not surprising news about
(01:12):
the flagship propaganda newspaper of the Democrats, the New York Times,
that we will dive into, as well as some follow
up to stories from yesterday. Donald Trump also a whole
bunch of commentary on Gaza on the Wall Street Journal
suits that he now has the deep state and more.
(01:35):
So we've got a lot to dive in. Well, let's
start though with this, because I think it is one
of those times where even the people who clay pretty
much spend all day thinking about how to bash Trump,
undermine him, say he's terrible, doesn't know what he's doing,
they're having to step back and say, you know what,
it's pretty good. What's going on with this economy. Actually,
(01:58):
I wasn't right when those people weren't right when they
said tariff, we're gonna ruin everything. Let's start with this
Q two quarter two growth rate, CNBC's Rick Santelli laying
it out for you.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Play one.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
We are expecting to number round two and a half percent,
and they're out up three percent, up three percent better
than expected. That would be the highest level since the
third quarter of twenty four, when it was up three
point one percent on the consumption side, up one point four,
very close to estimates.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Up one point four would be the.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Best since the last quarter of twenty four.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Clay, it's a surprise to people who thought Trump was
going to tank the economy. But I'm just going to say,
we're gonna I think we're gonna have to ride along
on Trump's victory lap here for a moment. We told
everybody he's earned the right to the trade negotiations the
way that he wants to. He has earned the space
(02:58):
for everyone to take a beat. You said, don't sell.
By the way, that was very good advice. We're not
a financial show, but better advice here than you get
on a lot of other financial shows. Don't sell. Trump
knows what he's doing. Three percent growth, and just real quickly,
before we die, here's the NBC's Joe Kernin and Rick
Santelli just having a laugh at all the Trump haters
(03:19):
on the economy, because that is richly deserved. Right now,
Play two.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
The left and people that don't like the president and
don't want things to work, and you know, like Center
Elizabeth Warre will come on and say inflation's out of
control and the economy is getting killed by what's happening.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
By these tariffs.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
This three percent with the market at new highs, and
really we haven't seen inflation, you know, go up back
to three for maybe it will this week, maybe we'll
see it.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
But none of these horrible things have happened.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
But they still talk like it's happening.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
It's amazing.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
The Democrats, of course, as you pointed out, really don't
want to see the current administration have some success. But
there's no doubt that this is some success. We're seeing
more Wor's power, we're seeing better equities, inflation, Inflation really
hasn't changed much in the last.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Year or so.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I think what you should start to contemplate, and I
tweeted this out after the numbers came out, is if
the so called experts are consistently proven wrong time after time,
what do they actually know? And I know we've talked
about this before, but there's a great write up and
(04:30):
I wish I could remember the book that dives into
expertise and experts are almost always wrong because what.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
They find is there is a huge.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Sort of cluster effect on experts because especially in the
modern era, people are afraid of being wrong, and so
a consensus settles in and nobody really is outside of
the consensus, because if you're wrong and outside of the consensus,
the fear is of being ostracized and everything else. And
(05:07):
the people who end up being the most right are
actually I think it was a really deep dive on hedgehogs.
That's people who don't go super deep on necessarily everything,
but have a wide variety of perspectives. They tend to
be better at forecasts than people who are so called
experts in one field. And what we're seeing with economics
is we were told if there are tariffs put in place,
(05:31):
we're going to have a great depression style economic reality.
And you saw everybody flood the market collapse in April,
the likes of which frankly, we hadn't really seen since COVID,
And we said on this show, as you pointed out,
hey just stay calm. If you happen to have added resources,
now is a good time to buy. Stocks are up
(05:53):
nearly thirty percent just since April. If you bought the dip,
if you just stayed in, you and fine, if you
just didn't pay attention to day to day, and so
I think there's this obsession with believing that experts are
going to be right, and then almost every time, I mean, look,
they were wrong on inflation, they were wrong on tariffs,
They've been wrong economically on everything.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
They were wrong on COVID, across the board. Yeah, you know,
with the very few exceptions. I saw our friend doctor
McCarry on Fox this morning just talking about all the
amazing things. That's why we had him on recently to
talk about the FDA and how streamlining that could mean
cures for people a lot faster, could save could save
lives and also add quality of life. Right, there's cures,
(06:40):
there's also effective treatment which can be a game changer
for people with a whole range of really debilitating diseases.
And he's an expert who said the right things and
Trump during COVID, and Trump has shown him what happens
when you're right, which is you should be elevated. What
you see the expert class in general, though, Clay is
(07:01):
they all fall prey to consensus thinking, the echo chamber effect.
This was even a problem back when I was in
the CIA as an analyst there. You mentioned the hedgehogs,
people that are that have depth on things versus a
little bit on a lot of different things. People who
had been, in my experience, the people who had been
covering an issue for a very long time were the
(07:23):
worst at predicting what the next thing was that was
going to happen. The people who had a very good
skill set to understand what matters right now, what's likely
to happen next, were far better at predictive analysis. Because
once you've been doing something for a long time, you
tend to think that whatever everybody else thinks doing that
(07:43):
same thing is the answer, right that that's the way
it's going to be. Certainly that is the case the
case in the economy. And why do we all care
about this, Well, because it affects the price of everything
that you were buying, the gas you were putting in
your car, your ability to pay your mortgage, all of this.
The piece of this that is me right now. And
this is what's remarkable, And I think this is why
Trump's frustration has boiled over on the FED issue. And
(08:07):
there were some very funny memes from when he went
and visited the FED. Yes, redo of the building that
they were, but the fact that rates haven't even dropped yet,
that would be the kind of rocket fuel you'd add
to the economy if things were stalled out a little bit.
This economy is already humming, and they've kept the rates
(08:28):
artificially high.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Here's my concern now, buck, and I haven't heard anybody
say this yet. I'm wondering if the Fed's gonna say
the economy's growing too fast and we can't cut rates
now because we can't add the accelerant. In other words,
they're going to go from hey, I just that's my
concern now that we've hit three percent growth, and look,
(08:50):
we need to get the economy really roaring. We need
to get four percent growth, three and a half percent growth.
That would be transformative. It would actually give us a
chance if you start to run the math of really
kind of knocking out some of these major budget deficits.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Growth cures everything. Right.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
If you've ever worked in a business, I remember I
had a buddy and he's I said, how'd you do?
And he ended up selling his company for over one
hundred million dollars. This is about fifteen years ago. I
said how'd you do? He said, Man, I screwed up everything.
I So you know that's interesting. I went back and
I looked at it, and we had to make a
decision so rapidly. But he said, the company was growing
(09:30):
so fast that I didn't have to be perfect. I
just had to steer in the right direction. And for
those of you out there that have ever been at
a company that's growing rapidly, you're not all going to
make the right decisions because you're having to the analogy
I've used before, it's like trying to change a tire
while you're driving a car. It's going to be really
sometimes messy. Right, But if you get that growth rate going,
(09:53):
if we can start really humming economically, we don't have
to be perfect on everything. Four percent growth in the
NAW economy would cure a lot of the ills that
are out there.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Well.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
You also have, I think, with Trump in many ways
the epitome of the guy who does versus the guy
who conceptualizes right, a guy who has negotiated deals, and look,
Trump's has negotiated deals that haven't gone his way when
he was in business. Obviously, there have been successes and failures,
but to your point, every great success in business, every
(10:28):
person who has been a great success in business, has
had many failures along the way, because that is how
you learn. That is a form of expertise that should
be far more valued when you're thinking about who to
put in charge of big decisions for the country instead
of I have some advanced degree from some economics program.
Wasn't it to President Bartlett from the fantasyland of the
(10:50):
West Wing, wasn't here like a PhD from Harvard or
something in economics. And that's what all the Libs think
would solve all of our problems. Most of the PhDs
in economics from from all of the Ivy League schools
in this country would stink at managing this economy.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Compared to Trump, it wouldn't even be close. Well, And
that's why I think there. Look, I love it. I
mean I'm a history nerd, but history professors are good
at telling you why something happened one hundred years after
it happened. We've seen some of these historians that go on.
Remember Michael Beschlow said, if Trump wins, they're just going
to line you up and shoot you.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
You know, and you're like, what what are you talking about?
I don't even know if.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
We're still He actually said that, Yes, that's not even
he actually said that.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
He actually said that, and he is I think a
good historian at looking at things that are one hundred
years old. Economists are very good at telling you why
something happened after it's already happened. They are very bad
as a group at predicting for you where we are headed.
And I think it's just worth contemplating. Challenging conventional wisdom
(11:55):
is usually how you win. I don't know how many
people out there really study things, but if you do
the same thing that everybody else does, it's going to
be very difficult for you to get ahead.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
You sometimes have to take risk. Trump.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
You can criticize him on a lot. The guy understands negotiations,
He understands leverage. He certainly understands interest rates, which are
the foundation of any real estate investment deal basically that
is done anywhere. And I hope that they're going to
start to reduce rates because they are too high. And look,
(12:29):
here is the number one issue in the economy today.
Number one issue. Housing is out of sorts because we
went from two and a half percent mortgage to over
seven percent in record time. And if you were lucky
enough to get a two and a half, you're frozen
in place there and if you were unfortunate enough to
get a seven, you haven't been able to read by
yet and unlock the entire housing market.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
That is true, but I think you also have to
pile on top of that, Clay, ten million people came
into the country illegally in four years. Ten certainly help
the cost of living for anyone in any city. There
are people running all kinds of scams where they have
illegals that are, you know, in a home that's meant
for four people max. They got thirty illegals living. They're
(13:12):
all paying them, you know, two hundred and fifty bucks
a month or something. This is all over the country
as we and this is another part of why the
immigration enforcement that Trump is undergoing right now is one
of the best things that could happen.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
For people who work for a living.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
It will help their wages, it will help the cost
of housing. What you're saying is obviously also true, which
is the rate issue that should start.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
To be ameliorated. That's the word of the day. There
you go. It's a nice word, right, thank you well.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
That one out that could be certainly done in the
months ahead, and I hope it will be. I have
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Speaker 1 (18:53):
All right, welcome back in to Clay and Buck here.
And we've got a story that we absolutely need to
discuss here with all of you. And it's because this
is getting a lot of attention, and even I think
some people out there who are generally or overall supportive
(19:15):
of Israel in its fight against Hamas have started to
waver a little bit for a reason that would be
understandable at least with the specific goal of trying to
pressure the IDF to get more food to the children
of Gaza. That's the basic narrative, that's the storyline that's
(19:35):
out there. Trump has been talking about it, others have
been talking about it. In fact, here we can get
President Trump on Gaza. This has cut ten. This is
the latest thing that he had to say about it.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Play it.
Speaker 8 (19:49):
I think everybody who lives there pretty cold hearted or
of course to that nuts. There's nothing you can say
other than it's sera. When you see the kids and
those who gets into whether they talk starvation or not,
those are kids that are starving. I mean they are starving,
(20:09):
and you see the mothers they love them so much.
This is nothing they seem to be able to do.
They got to get them food, and we'll get to get.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Them for them.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Clay, As we have been discussing here on the program,
a couple of things. First off, it strikes a lot
of us as contrary to what we would think the
Israeli government and the IDF would do, based on all
their actions up to this point, that they would willfully
let children starve if there was a way to prevent that.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
I don't believe it.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
And I'm not saying that there aren't civilian casualties that
have happened. I'm not saying there is not malnutrition going
on inside of Gaza. I'm just saying I don't believe
that it's a policy of the IDF two or the
Israeli government these Raeli people to starve out. And you
hear this term genocide being used now by people who
are very critical of Israel, and even some who aren't
(21:00):
always that critical of Israel. I've been looking at this
and thinking to myself, hold on a second, what is
really going on here? This is very important what is
actually happening in Gaza. First of all, as we know,
the narrative is now starting to come out more than
it is in fact hamas that is preventing the distribution
(21:22):
of food and seizing food that is being provided to
Gaza for the civilian population there. That's point one, but
point two, Clay. This New York Times story that on
it was a main story for the New York Times.
They had a.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Page newspaper for those of us old people like me
who still read the newspaper. Literally the front page story,
the one that they considered the most important to tell
to their readers on that day.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
It was just a few days ago, and there was
a story where they had a photo of a I mean,
it was a horrible looking photo in terms of emotionally devastating.
You see a child who is very skeletal, if you will,
I mean, looks extremely malnourished, in the hands of a woman.
(22:11):
And the whole point of the story based on this photo,
and they chose this photo. The whole point of the
story is that the children of Gaza are starving to death.
Look at this because it looked like somebody who would
be starving to death, something horrible beyond words, something that
no moral person could countenance, could sit by and allow
to happen. And so it obviously got a lot of
(22:35):
attention all over the world. The problem with the story
is that the photo is not an accurate representation of
what is going on. Here is the New York Times
appending an editor's note an editor's note to a story
about Mohammed Zacharia al much Mutawak, a child in Gaza
who's diagnosed with severe malnutrition. After publication, this is from
(22:57):
the New York Times PR Department publication, the Times learned
that he had pre existing health conditions. Please read more below.
They give more of this clay. This individual has this child,
it's still very sad story, has sistic fibrosis and that's
actually and also other pre existing health conditions. It's not
(23:19):
a starvation story. They're showing a child who's starving, who's
not actually starving, but has other pre existing health conditions,
which they have now offered. They ran a photo that
is effectively a fake in terms of the story, which
is what they were telling on the front page of
the New York Times to tell everybody that the Israelis
are starving the children of Gaza.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Yeah, and our friend Carol Markowitz, who's in our podcast network,
been on the show a lot. She tweeted this as well.
The brother of this individual was all, who is healthy
and has evidently no issues, was also cropped out of
the picture. And she says, and I think she's right,
should be published on the front page of the paper,
(24:02):
the correction, not some side x account. And she said,
if you fell for the hoax, it's on it. This
is very important.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
They didn't share the correction on the official New York
Times account with millions and millions of followers. They shared
it from the PR Department's tiny account that nobody is
going to see or pay any attention to. And Clay,
you already pointed this out too. They had in the
same photo they cropped out a child who looks wealthy
(24:33):
and healthy.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Should have raised issues in the mind of any editor
that saw this. Right, Wait a minute, one kid is
healthy and the other one is starving. How often do
you think that actually happens in the same family.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Never.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
I mean, I've got multiple kids. I can't imagine a
scenario where one of my kids looks healthy and the
other one is starving, and I'm saying, well, it's because
the whole family is unable to eat. I mean, I
think you probably would be trying to feed your family
equally there, So it should have raised a lot of issues.
And I would say this quick, yeah, go ahead ahead. Now,
(25:10):
remember when they got the Jason Blair story. I mean
that's probably been twenty some od.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
He was a serial fabricator, but he was a young
black reporter, and they were desperate to tell stories of
how diverse their new newsroom was.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
And you know, yeah, but they put a huge front
page story out saying this was all fabricated, we got
this wrong. To Carrol's point, I would argue, this is
far more significant because the things that he was making up,
by and large, were just kind of like stories about
wife in West Virginia or whatever it was. And look,
(25:41):
you don't want to make that stuff up. But this
actually alters the terrain of geopolitical negotiation and is intended
to send the message of Israel as intentionally starving young children.
And they use this image for that reason.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
It is wildly inflammatory against Israel and against Jews worldwide.
And that was the purpose of the story, to make
them Israel the Jews, to make them look like the
bad guys. After they suffered their own nine to eleven
(26:19):
on October seventh, after they had the most horrific terrorist
attack since nine to eleven perpetrated against them, and and
with a level of sadism on the on from Hamas
that is shocking to the conscience. Honestly, even for those
of us who were did things in the g watt
and saw how evil al Qaeda was and what they
(26:42):
would do, shocking to the conscience. But this reminds me
Clay of really this is this is on brand in
a sense for the New York Times. The New York
Times is the paper that that published Walter Duranti, who
on behalf of communism, lied about mass starvation in the
Soviet Union. Right, this is one of the most infamous
(27:03):
episodes of twentieth century journalism. Should have told you all
you need to know about the lib mindset and journals.
But Walter Duranti lied to cover up mass starvation in
the Soviet Union back in the nineteen early nineteen thirties,
and he actually got a Pulitzer Prize for it. Clay,
doesn't this all ring a bell? Just like the fake
(27:26):
Russia collusion stories. Those people got pulletzers, they still have them.
The purpose is not the truth. The purpose is manipulation
of the masses of the minds of the readers, and
the purpose here was very clearly. Now is the chance,
after we saw how horrific Hamas was, and they took
(27:46):
two hundred plus hostages, and they raped women, and they
murdered babies, and they did all these horrible things intentionally,
and on behalf of the people planning October seventh. I mean,
this was their plan. This wasn't some secondary thing that
just happened after all that. Now is the chance to
try to seize the moral high ground for the pro
(28:08):
Palestinian pro Hamas lunatics. And we're supposed to think it's
just an error play that The New York Times runs
a story that is essentially a fake story on when
you use a photo and say it is a thing
or represents a thing and it does not, which is
starvation of a child. That is not starvation that caused
that child to look that way, as anybody who knows
(28:30):
anything about the diseases that he had pre existing knows.
And then they cut out the photo of the healthy
looking little boy in.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
The same photo it should began to it over again
on the front page. I would also point this out,
and I think it's very significant. All of their errors
have been in favor of Gaza. Do you remember soon
after October seventh when Israel started to respond after the
October seventh attack, and all of the major news outlets
(29:01):
I believe it was, they said that Israel had struck
a hospital and killed tons of people. Do you remember
that story? It was on the front page everywhere, and
it later came out that it was a misfired rocket
from Gaza that actually from that is from Hamas, that
actually hit the hospital in Gaza, and so they allowed
the story to be Oh, Israel's intentionally targeting hospitals and
(29:23):
killing innocent people. Put it on the front page of
the newspaper. If your errors look, reporting is hard, right,
Let's be honest. Trying to tell the truth is a
hard job when there are lots of people trying to
manipulate you all the time. So I will say that,
but if your errors always run the same direction, it
is a flaw of your reporting that should be addressed
(29:44):
because it is a sign.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Well, I don't think it's a slaw. I think that
gives them too much Creditally, I think that the mission,
the mission is the propaganda. Actually, I don't think that
this is a mistake. I think that they know that
this is what they are supposed to do. They playing
for their team with this. And what does it say
if the starvation and the New York Times is still saying, oh,
(30:06):
there's mass starvation in Gaza, what are the chances that
there are children And this is a horrific thing to
even think about, but that there are children who are
starving to death in massive numbers in Gaza. There are
skeletal looking children who are clinging to life all over Gaza.
This is what we are being told by the New
York Times. But they happen to pick a photo of
(30:29):
somebody that is not starving, a young child who is
not starving. Very sad story, assistic fibrosis, but he's not starving,
and that's the photo they put on the front page
of the newspaper. You're supposed to think that this is
an error made in good faith. Absolutely not, Absolutely not.
And the fact that they won't really correct it in
a way that will change the perception of the people
(30:52):
who read the original story all over Clay.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
It was picked up all over the world.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Yeah, it's not just New York Times readers, It's all
over the internet. It's everywhere. What do you think it
looks like, you know, in the Middle East newspapers and websites,
to the degree that those things really exist, Well, what
do you think it looks like there?
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Now?
Speaker 1 (31:10):
After that photo? What do their readers think? It is reckless?
Beyond words, The New York Times is a disgrace. It
is not an honest entity. It is not a good
faith journalistic operation. They are pure left wing anti civilization propagandists,
and everyone needs to read their articles with that in mind.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
That's how I feel about it. At least so I.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Think it's true, but I think at a bare minimum
the pressure I think Carol Markowitz is right. You can't
have an error that egregious and just post from your
New York Times pr account, which a you know, probably
what one in ten thousand people will actually see the correction.
You should have to put on the front page the
full picture that you edited and acknowledged that you told
(31:57):
something that was fundamentally untrue. That impacts in a significant
way the discussion around how Israel and Gaza. Israel is
handling the situation in Gaza.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
You're completely right.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
I would just add to this, the people who picked
that photo did not do so in error. They picked
that photo because their fundamental role here is to try
to create at least moral equivalency between Israel and Hamas,
if not. The Palestinians are the good guys, Israel the
(32:27):
bad guys. That's their actual job in their minds.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Also, I will point out, remember all those people out
there that were supposed to be fact finding experts on
misinformation and disinformation. This seems like a pretty egregious example
of that that should be widely covered by other media
outlets that care about the truth. Are you seeing any
of those articles, know any of those media discussions. I'm
not seeing it anywhere.
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What you got for us?
Speaker 9 (34:39):
Hey, keep up the good work. I can't tell whether
Trump thinks Israel starving the people on purpose or not.
If he uses it would be ironic considering a couple
of weeks ago he chastised everybody for falling for the
Epstein hoax. So you think he's do you think this
(34:59):
is this is real?
Speaker 1 (35:00):
This is really important, This is really important. There is
widespread reporting that I think is reliable, that there is
that food is not getting to people insufficient you know,
insufficient quantity in Gaza, including children who are probably or
who rather are malnourished, not yet starving that but malnourished
as a result of it. But Hamas is preventing the
(35:22):
food from getting to them, is the point. And so
then to make this an even more emotional issue, they
pick this photo and they say, oh, see this is
what Israel is deciding to do to people. So there's
the who's responsible for it? And then there's the degree
of how much is food not getting so Hamas is
preventing food from getting through in the numbers that it
(35:44):
should be getting or in the quantity it should be
getting through. And then the New York Times is picking
this story to make it seem like this is an
Israeli plot or Israeli decision.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Also, if Israel wanted to kill everyone in Gaza, they
could have done it two years ago. They could have
carpet bombed everyone and legitimately killed everybody who lives in
gos It. They have the wherewithal and the power and
the ability to do that. Look at the attempted tactical strikes.
(36:15):
Look at what happened in Iran. They pretty much only
killed They hit apartment building units that that Iranian nuclear
scientists were in and didn't touch anybody else.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
And why let's just put this in the cold, hard reality,
real polity for a second. At this stage of the game,
Israel is going to intentionally starve children to death to
turn the whole world against it. Of course, not that's insane.
I'm not saying children aren't starving. I'm saying, look at
who's responsible for preventing the food from getting to them,
and look at how The New York Times is then
(36:48):
trying to lie about that culpability.
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