June 9, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show delivers a powerful and unfiltered discussion centered on the escalating unrest in Los Angeles, the political fallout, and the national implications of President Donald Trump’s immigration policies. Broadcasting from Washington, D.C., Clay Travis dives into the aftermath of violent protests in LA, linking them to broader issues of law enforcement, immigration enforcement, and political accountability. The hour opens with a sharp critique of California leadership, particularly Governor Gavin Newsom and Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass, who are accused of failing to maintain public safety amid riots and arson. Clay highlights the connection between recent LA wildfires and the dangers of unchecked civil unrest, emphasizing the risk of further destruction in a city already vulnerable to fire-related disasters. A major theme of this hour is the growing national support for President Trump’s immigration agenda. Referencing recent CNN polling, Clay underscores how Trump’s approval rating on immigration has surged dramatically, reflecting a shift in public sentiment. The show critiques Democratic leaders for allegedly ignoring the will of the people and failing to enforce federal immigration laws, with Clay arguing that Trump is stepping in where local and state officials have failed. The segment also features audio clips from Mayor Bass and Governor Newsom, both of whom blame the Trump administration for provoking unrest. Clay counters these claims, asserting that Trump is acting to restore order and protect American citizens. He also discusses the constitutional authority of the federal government to override state and local jurisdictions in matters of immigration and public safety. A particularly intense portion of the hour involves Clay’s call for law enforcement to be empowered to use deadly force when under attack, citing videos of LA police officers being assaulted with rocks and Molotov cocktails. He invites police officers and LA residents to call in and share their perspectives, many of whom agree that officers should be allowed to defend themselves with lethal force if necessary. The hour concludes with commentary on the political motivations behind the unrest, suggesting that Democrats may be using chaos to undermine President Trump.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in play Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. Monday edition of the
program up in DC for the next couple of weeks here.
Buck is going to be with me back tomorrow and
we will be up here with a lot of different
guests coming your way from our nation's capital. Later today,
in the third hour, we'll have a couple of different
(00:20):
United States Senators in with us, Marsha Blackburn at two
oh five and Tommy Tuberville at two thirty five. Tommy
Tuberville of course announced I believe it was last week
on this program that he would be running for governor
of Alabama. So he will, I think soon be governor
a great state of Alabama, but also in the meantime
a United States Senator, and they're working through the big
(00:43):
beautiful bill there in the process of trying to get
that figured out on the Senate side, as it has
already passed the House side. I have sent in a
couple of additional clips as it continues to grow. The
fallout of the LA pro test and you just heard
us a little bit ago talking with Riley Gaines, who
(01:04):
was fabulous will dive into a bit more what was
going on there. Uh, But it turns out that there's
actually a huge level of support for Trump when it
comes to the deportations all over the nation. And I
think this is yet another issue that Democrats are losing on.
(01:26):
And I want to play for you the awful governor
of California, Gavin Newsom, in addition to Karen Bass, the mayor,
we have them trying to blame Donald Trump for what
is going on in LA. And I want to open
up phone lines for I'm asking for just people in
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the Los Angeles area who want to weigh in eight
hundred two eight two two eight eight two, and in particular,
I want to know how this is playing with people
that you are talking with. And some of you out
there say, well, I don't care. California is a blue state.
They are morons like let their city burn.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I don't agree. I think that.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
There are around forty percent of Californians that are big
Trump supporters that recognize that they are in many ways
behind enemy lines, fighting for truth insanity in a state that.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
They wag may well love. And we have had on.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Our friend from California who is running for governor right now,
Steve Hilton several different times to talk about the arguments
that he is making. And I don't think you can
see these LA riots in the in the aftermath of
what happened with the LA wildfires and not see how
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they are connected. The LA wildfires were finally contained on
January thirty. First, a lot of you out there listening
have friends and family that lost homes in those LA
wildfires due to a large extent because of government and competence.
And now government and competence is forcing the hard working
men and women of the LA Police Department to actually
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deal with people throwing projectiles at them, burning their cars down.
And I'll just point out that in a city that
just had a massive wildfire issue, allowing fires to be
started for any reason is a particularly dangerous and pernicious act, because, yes,
we don't ever want to see riots lead to looting
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and burning anywhere, but in Los Angeles, a city that
we all know is uniquely susceptible to the dangers of arson.
It's even probably the worst place in America where we
could be allowing looting, violent behavior, and arson because how
quickly it could spread and take over the city, as
(04:02):
we just saw in January now as Trump is the
reason for everything. Mayor Karen bass is saying, hey, this
chaos is actually Trump's fault. Listen to Cut nine.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
What we're seeing in LA is chaos caused by the administration.
People should exercise their right to protest, that's their First
Amendment right, but people should also exercise that right peacefully.
We do not want to play into the administration's hands.
We're working with officials, we're organizing resources. But what we're
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seeing in Los Angeles is chaos that is provoked by
the administration.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Provoked trying to get violent illegal criminals out of LA
to help it be safer for everyone. Democrat, Republican and independent.
This is Trump's fault. And if you thought it was
just the mayor of Los Angeles, the incompetent and should
be removed and impeached. Mayor of Los Angeles who could
not stop the fires from burning. And might I remind
(05:07):
you was out of the country despite being warned that
there were very dangerous wildfire like conditions. Gavin Newsom says,
arrest me. This is how California's governor responds to police
officers being attacked and having their cars lit on fire.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Cut thirteen he's a tough guy. Wasn't he do that?
Speaker 4 (05:27):
And he knows where to find me. But you know what,
let your hands off four year old girls that are
trying to get educated.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Put your hands off.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
These poor people are just trying to get live their lives. Man,
trying to live their lives pain, their tax has been
here ten years, the fear, the horror, the hell is
this guy?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Come after me? Arrest me. Let's just get it over with.
Tough guy.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
You know, I don't give a damn, but I care
about my community. I care about this community. The hell
are they doing? These guys need to grow up. They
need to stop, and we need to push back. And
I'm sorry to be so clear, but that kind of
bloviating is exhausting.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
So Tom arrested me. Let's go arrest me. Honestly, I
think you should be impeached.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
I think that the people of California have been led
astray by Gavin Newsom, who is one of the worst mayors.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Sorry, one of the worst.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Well he wasn't a great mayor either of San Francisco,
but one of the worst governors that we've ever seen.
And people are voting with their feet. They have fled
California talked about this. California became a state in eighteen fifty.
From eighteen fifty to twenty twenty, California's population increased every
year eighteen fifty to twenty twenty. Suddenly, in twenty twenty,
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California's population started to decline. The only reason California's decline
hasn't declined even more precipitously illegal immigrants. But the actual
number of residents of California has been declining year after
year during Gavin Newsom's tenure. People are voting with their
feet and leaving that state. And that's despite the fact
that in many ways, as many of you listening to
(07:04):
me in California know right now, I've spent a lot
of time in California. Probably the city that I'm in
right now.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Washington, d C.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
I live in Nashville. Nashville is number one city I've
spent the most time in. I went to college here
in Washington, d C. Number two. La number three. I
have spent years of my life because Fox Sports is
based in LA, traveling back and forth in LA. I
love a lot of the people in LA. It's a
fabulous place, Garden of Eden in many ways they have
(07:33):
destroyed it. Democrat rule, both the mayor and the governor,
the congressmen and women, the Kamala Harrises of the world
have taken a true American Garden of Eden, and they
have both metaphorically and unfortunately oftentimes legitimately, Democrats have lit
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that city in state on fire. And that's what we're
seeing right now, is we are seeing the major consequences
of a series of awful decisions being made time after
time after time. And this is significant. The overwhelming majority
of Americans are seeing what Trump is doing on immigration
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and they're saying this is the right choice.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Listen, this is CNN.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
So what CNN had on this morning, Cut twenty six
the Trump approval rating on immigration surging like a rocket.
According to CNN, this is what they were saying this morning.
Listen to cut twenty six.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
You know, if we just take a look at the
baseline numbers here, this is Trump's net approval rating on immigration.
It's gone up like a rocket compared now versus eight
years ago. During Trump's first term, look at this, and
his first term, Trump was way way way underwater minus.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Twenty one points. But look at this, He's up over
twenty points now in the aggregate, he.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
Is in positive territory if plus one point on his
net approval rating. Some other polls even have it a
little bit higher than that. There is no issue on
which Trump is doing so much better than he was
in his first term more than the issue of immigration.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
No wonder The Times has written up the way that
he is.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Trump is begging for a fight on this because he
knows what he's doing so far is working with the
American electorate.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Nothing has he been more right about in his entire
political career than immigration. And as he has made the
argument over the last nine years, ten years since he
came down that escalator at Trump Tower, the American public
has come to see Trump was right, and Biden, I
really believe this allowed an invasion of this country.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
You see all those.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
People waving Mexican flags as they burned American vehicles, as
they threw rocks at American police. It is a sign
that we have lost much of our country. You engage
in violent behavior while waving the flag of another country.
(09:58):
What else is that but an invasion and an actual insurrection.
CNN confronted Mayor Karen Bass about this, saying, hey, there's
overwhelming support for President Trump's deportation agenda. What do you
have to say about that? This was cut twenty seven
a little bit earlier. Are Democrats out of touch on
(10:21):
this issue?
Speaker 6 (10:22):
Well, I think if you did the polling in Los Angeles,
I'm not sure it would be that way, considering we
are a city of immigrants, and then people might approve
that policy. But do people really approve the federal government
coming in and seizing power from a state and from
a city. So I drilled down a little further on
that poll because I do not believe that Americans support
(10:47):
the federal intervention in a city takeover or a state takeover.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
It's not a city or state takeover, it's a city
at state protection because the people in charge of the
city and state are unwilling to protect the people who
live there. Trump is doing what they should be doing
and what unfortunately he has to do. And let me
say this, I'm probably gonna get people fired up about this.
I just shared a video. It's a video of LA
police officers trying to hide underneath an overpass as big
(11:17):
rocks are being thrown at them, later effectively molotov cocktails
being thrown at them. Why shouldn't the LA Police Department
be able to open up fire? I mean this honestly.
If you are being attacked potentially by someone who is
putting your body and your safety in peril, it is
(11:39):
not crazy to think that one of these officers could
get hit by a big rock and die. It is
not crazy to think that one of these officers could
get hit by one of these molotov cocktails. You should
be able to open fire. I think they should wipe
these guys out. I'm sorry, I'm past the point of
being concerned when someone is on an overpass throwing rocks
(12:01):
at you, When they are throwing molotov cocktails at your
police vehicles, the police should be able to open fire
and wipe those dudes out.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
I'm not gonna apologize for that, because their lives are
in danger. Their friends' lives are in danger that they're
working with. We got to stop this Namby Pamby. Police
can't defend themselves.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Bs.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
I gotta be careful not to curse here, because when
I watch those videos, I get angry, and I know
a lot of y'all are police officers military that are
listening right now.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
When you see.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
People putting police officers lives in danger. Those guys should
get wiped out. I'm sorry. Police should open fire, they
should hit them, they should wipe them out. They should
arrest them if they're still alive, cuff them throwing the
back of the cruiser, prosecute them to the full extent
of the law. I don't think this is a difficult
decision at all. Again, I'm talking about the videos. You
(12:53):
go to my Twitter account, we'll share it from Clay
and Buck. The videos that are out there of police officers,
wives being put in danger and they're just supposed to
sit there and take it. No, the message that would
be sent is when you attack police officers, you should
expect to die. That should be the message. Not talking
(13:14):
about peaceful protest, but when you are throwing from an
overpass big huge pieces of rock that if they hit
people would kill them. When you are throwing molotov cocktails
designed to light police vehicles on fire, you shouldn't be
able to do that. Police should be able to respond
(13:36):
with force. And I think if they responded with force suddenly,
all these Antifa lunatics would say, wait a minute, maybe
we shouldn't be doing this. Maybe there are real consequences
for our behavior. The entire reason that we have laws
is because we have the idea that people are going
(13:57):
to respond rationally who consequences that are laid out against
them when it comes to violent behavior. Clearly that hasn't worked.
And so when you have people engaging in violent attacks
on police, I think the police should be able to
open fire wipe them out. So you're gonna be angry
about that. I'm not gonna apologize for it. I don't
(14:18):
know how many other people are making that argument. I'm
not sure that anybody else has, But I'm just gonna
tell you exactly what I think.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Those police officers.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Their lives should not be in danger because these lunatics
feel like that they can just throw rocks from an
overpass and molotov cocktails from an overpass at police officers
and there's not gonna be any consequences at all. Hope
give them the ability to return fire. Your lives are
(14:46):
in danger. You shouldn't have to stand there and just
get pelted and just watch your police cruiser burn because
the people that are your bosses are too much of
cowards to allow you to defend yourself. So and I
would ask the President to say the same thing. Hey,
every police officer in America, I will pardon you if
(15:07):
you are being attacked and you need to defend yourself,
do it. I've got your back. I think you would
see things change in a hurry when it comes to violent,
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(15:29):
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Speaker 2 (17:31):
Am I wrong that.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
The police should be able to respond with deadly force
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rolling through the program with us in Washington, DC, where
President Trump just landed back on the self lawn a
(19:20):
few blocks away, and we're gonna have the audio for
you of this in a moment. It's a little bit
difficult to hear because you can still hear the helicopter
in the background. But he said if he were Tom
Homan that he would arrest Gavin Newsom. But we have
several of you who want to weigh in again, I
would love to hear. I've asked for two different types
(19:42):
of callers so far. LA Area people, particularly, what are
the conversations like for your in your conversations that you
are hearing now as the riots played out over the
weekend LA only I understand.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
The lot of you.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
I'm just curious about people who are actually living there.
And then secondarily the videos cops that you have seen,
is deadly force warranted when there are bricks, concrete, big rocks,
objects being pelted at police as well as molotov cocktails
(20:22):
thrown at their police vehicles. To me, this is not
even a difficult call. I'm sure the police have been
told that they cannot take action. But as for police
that are out there listening, and I would like for
you to watch the videos. If you haven't already seen them,
they're up at MA. You can just go to Clay
Travis on Twitter and you can see the videos that
(20:43):
I'm talking about. But am I wrong that deadly force
is warranted here? Let's see Jonathan in LA. What do
you think as you are watching these in your home city.
Speaker 7 (20:59):
Yeah, we're here in the LA area and I was
driving down to take my wife and kids to the airport.
And if they're saying there's nothing going on, it's it's
totally orchestrated and it's totally fraudulent. I watched twenty one
marked and unmarked cars cop cars speeding down the express
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lane towards downtown LA. I don't do that just for fun.
There's something going on, and it's clearly it was clearly
you know, in a huge hurry. I do know, and
I will I will say this. You have you had
the head of the SEIU. He was arrested a few
days ago, and Maxine Water goes to try to visit him.
(21:42):
I mean, it's kind of like, why there's something more
afoot and it feels like it feels.
Speaker 8 (21:47):
Like a repeat.
Speaker 7 (21:49):
These people repeat stuff over and over again. They're boring,
They're play there. You know, their their playbook is is
very predictable. Yet it seems to be effective. It constantly
and I think you're seeing it play out again. I
don't think Trump's going to go along with it like
he did before.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, I think he's certainly not going to go along
with it like he did before. It's also worth noting politically.
First of all, I think Trump wants the cities to
be safe. I was sharing all of the murder data.
The violent crime rate in this country has plummeted in
the first six months that Trump has been in office,
not getting much attention, but it has plummeted. Trump's also
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not ever going to have to run for reelection and
the fact that Democrats, I really think took advantage of
the summer of twenty twenty to try and make Trump
look bad. I think those were orchestrated protests designed to
occur in an election year to damage Trump politically as
(22:48):
much as they could, And I think there was a
political calculus that is different.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Now.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Trump doesn't care what people think. He's just going to
do what he thinks is right. And in the wake
of surviving the or Pennsylvania assassination of July thirteenth, I
think Trump legitimately believes that he was kept on earth
for a reason.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I think that he believes that he was spared by God.
I really do.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
And I think that he has decided that he is
going to do everything that he thinks is right, come
hell or high water, and he's not going to be
worried about what people.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Say against him.
Speaker 9 (23:26):
Now.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
He just landed on the South Lawn. Buck and I
are going to be in the Oval Office with him
on Thursday, have a conversation. Looking forward to that. But
this was Trump asked directly about Gavin Newsom. We played
the audio for you of Gavin Newsom begging Tom Holman
to arrest him. Trump was asked whether or not he
thinks the California Governor Gavin Newsom should be arrested for
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impeding ice as Gavin Newsom encouraged the administration to do.
Speaker 7 (23:53):
Listen, Gavin Newsom, he's daring Tom Holman become an arrectum.
Should he do it. I would do it.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Because I would gone. I think it's pains the Gavin likes.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
The most of it, but I think it w everything.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
He's done a terrible job.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Because I like gavenus and he's a nice guy, but.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
He's grossly incompetent. Everybody knows.
Speaker 8 (24:16):
All you have to do is look at the little
railroad he's building.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
It's about a hundred times over budget.
Speaker 8 (24:21):
We're putting a flag pole.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Over there under budget.
Speaker 7 (24:24):
I always do an.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Under buddy, all right.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
I know again, because you could hear the helicopter rotors
there in the background.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Would try.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
I like Gavin Newsom, but he's grossly incompetent. He then
Trump is putting in a new flagpole. Uh, and he
says that they're gonna do it under budget, because he
always builds things under budget, whereas Gavin Newsom, and this
is true, one of the most ridiculous boondoggles probably in
the history of American politics, is currently underway with the
railroad that they are trying to build in California. I
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know some of you are rolling your eyes about it.
It's way over budget. They basically built none of it.
And it's supposed to be high speed rail. I believe
it's supposed to connect California. I mean LA and San Francisco.
Team in New York, correct me if I'm wrong on
that being the destination that they are trying to do,
to connect LA and San Francisco via high speed rail,
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and they've just been completely unable to do it. It
is gross incompetence and it has cost California taxpayers billions
of dollars already and they've got nothing to show for it.
And you know they made the decision. I know not
a lot about building railroad. It's not gonna stun you.
(25:38):
I'm not sitting around in my free time with my
railroad displays and my little conductor hat making all my
making all my railroads, and I've not studied the railway industry.
Seems like the easiest thing to do would have been
to run the railway alongside of the existing interstate, because
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you've already got right of way, you've already created all
of the challenges associated with getting an actual interstate built.
I don't know why they made the decision not to
do that, but I would have just done that. Instead,
they're trying to build an entirely new railway network unconnected
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to the existing interstates. They've had to take over so
much land, they've had to cut through so many farms,
and they haven't.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Even done anything with it yet.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
So look, I think Gavin Newsom wants to be arrested
because he wants the attention he's going to run for
president in twenty twenty eight. He wants to make the
argument that Trump is an authoritarian dictator and if he'll
arrest the sitting governor of California, none of us are safe.
But if the sitting governor of California refuses to follow
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federal law, as he is obligated to do under the
supremacy Clause of the Constitution, what should the president do?
Speaker 2 (27:03):
I mean, I think it's a really.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Challenging question because Trump is actually acting to protect the
people of Los Angeles when their mayor and their governor
will not do it, but they are bragging about directly
defying federal law. Well, look, the entire concept of our
constitution is predicated on federal overruling state when there is
(27:28):
a conflict on who has the who has the power
now on things that are not giving you a little
bit of a constitutional law, lesson going back in time
on things that are uncertain. The whole concept of federalism is, Hey,
we're going to allow the states to be laboratories and
do their own research and do their own projects, and
(27:49):
the best decisions by the states, we would hope would
then spread. So I believe very much in federalism. But
the courts have clearly said that each state can't have
its own immigration policy, and each state can't have its
own city and state immigration policies. You have to have
federal immigration law. And we talked about it a lot
(28:10):
on the program because sometimes it was very frustrating to
many of you in Texas, and even the governor of
Texas himself, Greg Abbott, because he would say, how in
the world am I not allowed to protect my state
and my cities from Biden's open border policies? And there
were a lot of different court decisions. I came on
(28:31):
this program, I said, you're not gonna like it, you know,
not gonna like it that the courts are saying, Hey,
it's the province of the president to determine immigration policy.
But you clearly can't have fifty different immigration policies. We
have to have federal immigration policy. And Trump is saying
I'm implementing federal immigration policy. City and state government should
(28:55):
not have the opportunity to obfuscate to oppose the federal
government from implementing federal immigration law. I don't think this
is a very challenging situation. So what do you do
if they will not allow that to happen. I think
it's a super challenging position politically, especially when the governor
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of California is daring you to arrest him for violating
the law. The law's pretty clear. I think Gavin Newsom
is in the wrong. Now, you got to work through
your way through the California courts. First, do you think
there's any federal district court judges in California that are
going to say, you know what, Gavin Newsom has violated
federal law?
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Probably not.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Is the Circuit court that governs California, Washington, and Oregon
Ninth Circuit. Are they going to say that California doesn't
have the right to defy federal immigration law.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Probably not. So it's going to have to be expedited
all the way up to the.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Supreme Court, potentially depending on who the judges are that
end up with cases like these. And given and that
the primary opposition to Trump two point zero has been
government in nature, I think you just have to be
careful about the battles that you're undertaking in the court system.
And I think California, I would expect, if it hasn't
already happened, I would expect that California is going to
(30:16):
try to sue to argue that Trump doesn't have the
authority to call in the National Guard into Los Angeles.
But he does clearly because again of the supremacy clause,
which gives the federal government the power over state. Remember,
this wouldn't be complicated. And there's a reason why things
like this aren't happening in red states because I guarantee
(30:36):
you if the state of Florida had a protest like
this going on, first of all, Governor Ron DeSantis would
take care of it. Red state governors would not allow
this to happen. So that's point one point two. If
they did need help, they would ask for it. But crazily,
what are you supposed to do If the mayor of
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Los Angeles, Karen Bass is okay with the city burning,
if the governor is what about Chicago? Do you feel
like the mayor of Chicago, Brandon Johnson's gonna stop the
city of Chicago from burning?
Speaker 2 (31:08):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Do you feel like Mayor Wu in Boston's gonna stop
Boston from burning?
Speaker 2 (31:14):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Maybe Eric Adams would do it right now in New
York City, maybe he would. But a lot of these
big cities in blue states with blue state governors and
blue state mayors, they're not. They just think this is
the price that has to be paid lighting a city
on fire.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Small price to pay.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
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like many of you, I was watching last night as
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much of the pro tests turned into violence, and I
want to hit a bunch of different calls out there.
And again I'm referring to video that I shared. You
can go see it is just to kind of describe
it for those of you who have not seen it.
From a highway overpass, police are trapped on the underpass.
(33:20):
They are trying to protect their vehicles underneath so they
can't be reached, but there is not enough space and
so the police are having rockets, rocks thrown at them,
and then there are molotov cocktails also being thrown that
could and did catch their police vehicles on fire. To me,
it seems like a clear situation where use of force
(33:43):
that is violent, potentially death causing force could be justified.
And I'm asking for people out there that have had
experience in law enforcement. You can also respond on my
Twitter account, as I'm sure many of you will and
already are. Jane in California, former law enforcement and former
active duty military. When you see what was happening to
(34:05):
the LA police last night as a part of these riots,
should they be able to defend themselves? Is violent force
lethal force potentially warranted based on what you've.
Speaker 8 (34:16):
Seen, Absolutely, sir, deadly force can be met with deadly force,
And there is no no good leader should place his
people in harm's way without their capacity to defend themselves.
That is actually criminal. So people need to be ready
(34:38):
for some consequences because I hail from Latin America. I mean,
my family is from Latin America. You know, bls know
what I can do the whole conversation and finish I want.
But every self respecting Mexican that I know is embarrassed
by this. This is some drama show that's being put
on by somebody to try and elicit something, and good
(34:58):
people are going to get hurt. So this is the
nobody who is you know with has a rational mind
needs to be going down there. This is this is
really bad and it's dangerous. So this is not a protest.
It is a riot, So no need for a counter protest.
Avoid those areas. Let the cops do their job.
Speaker 9 (35:17):
I was also National Guard.
Speaker 8 (35:18):
Let the National Guard do they're dump and I was
active duty for five years twenty years law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
So thank you.
Speaker 9 (35:24):
This is a dangerous situation and no doubt.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
To you that police would be justified in using violent
force to respond based on what you've seen.
Speaker 8 (35:32):
Absolutely, you are one hundred percent correct. And it moves
from this to another thing. You mentioned all the dangers
that California is in as you move from this little
game to something else, to something else. California is is
in danger, so people stay away from that. Let the
people do their job, and leaders let their people do
their job swiftly and.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Get this over with.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Thank you very much, very fast. Bill in Savannah, Georgia,
retired law enforcement and doubt based on what you've seen,
that police are entitled to defend themselves.
Speaker 9 (36:05):
No, absolutely entire to defend themselves. You're hot, and the
police academy to defend yourself and the lives of others.
If you're in danger, then deadly force is authorized. And
these people, I mean, I hate to say it, but
the only thing that you're gonna stop this is only
(36:25):
this kind of stuff with malasif contails and stuff from
going on, the active, active, or deadly force is used.
That's going to desure a whole bunch of these people
about it.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Amen, Sorry to cut you off for coming up on
the end of the hour. Senator Marsha Blackburn with us next,
but I'll ask her about this as well. To me,
there's no doubt l A cops should be able to
protect themselves from violent attacks.
Welcome back in play Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. Monday edition of the
program up in DC for the next couple of weeks here.
Buck is going to be with me back tomorrow and
we will be up here with a lot of different
guests coming your way from our nation's capital. Later today,
in the third hour, we'll have a couple of different
(00:20):
United States Senators in with us, Marsha Blackburn at two
oh five and Tommy Tuberville at two thirty five. Tommy
Tuberville of course announced I believe it was last week
on this program that he would be running for governor
of Alabama. So he will, I think soon be governor
a great state of Alabama, but also in the meantime
a United States Senator, and they're working through the big
(00:43):
beautiful bill there in the process of trying to get
that figured out on the Senate side, as it has
already passed the House side. I have sent in a
couple of additional clips as it continues to grow. The
fallout of the LA pro test and you just heard
us a little bit ago talking with Riley Gaines, who
(01:04):
was fabulous will dive into a bit more what was
going on there. Uh, But it turns out that there's
actually a huge level of support for Trump when it
comes to the deportations all over the nation. And I
think this is yet another issue that Democrats are losing on.
(01:26):
And I want to play for you the awful governor
of California, Gavin Newsom, in addition to Karen Bass, the mayor,
we have them trying to blame Donald Trump for what
is going on in LA. And I want to open
up phone lines for I'm asking for just people in
(01:47):
the Los Angeles area who want to weigh in eight
hundred two eight two two eight eight two, and in particular,
I want to know how this is playing with people
that you are talking with. And some of you out
there say, well, I don't care. California is a blue state.
They are morons like let their city burn.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I don't agree. I think that.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
There are around forty percent of Californians that are big
Trump supporters that recognize that they are in many ways
behind enemy lines, fighting for truth insanity in a state that.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
They wag may well love. And we have had on.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Our friend from California who is running for governor right now,
Steve Hilton several different times to talk about the arguments
that he is making. And I don't think you can
see these LA riots in the in the aftermath of
what happened with the LA wildfires and not see how
(02:53):
they are connected. The LA wildfires were finally contained on
January thirty. First, a lot of you out there listening
have friends and family that lost homes in those LA
wildfires due to a large extent because of government and competence.
And now government and competence is forcing the hard working
men and women of the LA Police Department to actually
(03:14):
deal with people throwing projectiles at them, burning their cars down.
And I'll just point out that in a city that
just had a massive wildfire issue, allowing fires to be
started for any reason is a particularly dangerous and pernicious act, because, yes,
we don't ever want to see riots lead to looting
(03:37):
and burning anywhere, but in Los Angeles, a city that
we all know is uniquely susceptible to the dangers of arson.
It's even probably the worst place in America where we
could be allowing looting, violent behavior, and arson because how
quickly it could spread and take over the city, as
(04:02):
we just saw in January now as Trump is the
reason for everything. Mayor Karen bass is saying, hey, this
chaos is actually Trump's fault. Listen to Cut nine.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
What we're seeing in LA is chaos caused by the administration.
People should exercise their right to protest, that's their First
Amendment right, but people should also exercise that right peacefully.
We do not want to play into the administration's hands.
We're working with officials, we're organizing resources. But what we're
(04:40):
seeing in Los Angeles is chaos that is provoked by
the administration.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Provoked trying to get violent illegal criminals out of LA
to help it be safer for everyone. Democrat, Republican and independent.
This is Trump's fault. And if you thought it was
just the mayor of Los Angeles, the incompetent and should
be removed and impeached. Mayor of Los Angeles who could
not stop the fires from burning. And might I remind
(05:07):
you was out of the country despite being warned that
there were very dangerous wildfire like conditions. Gavin Newsom says,
arrest me. This is how California's governor responds to police
officers being attacked and having their cars lit on fire.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Cut thirteen he's a tough guy. Wasn't he do that?
Speaker 4 (05:27):
And he knows where to find me. But you know what,
let your hands off four year old girls that are
trying to get educated.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Put your hands off.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
These poor people are just trying to get live their lives. Man,
trying to live their lives pain, their tax has been
here ten years, the fear, the horror, the hell is
this guy?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Come after me? Arrest me. Let's just get it over with.
Tough guy.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
You know, I don't give a damn, but I care
about my community. I care about this community. The hell
are they doing? These guys need to grow up. They
need to stop, and we need to push back. And
I'm sorry to be so clear, but that kind of
bloviating is exhausting.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
So Tom arrested me. Let's go arrest me. Honestly, I
think you should be impeached.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
I think that the people of California have been led
astray by Gavin Newsom, who is one of the worst mayors.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Sorry, one of the worst.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Well he wasn't a great mayor either of San Francisco,
but one of the worst governors that we've ever seen.
And people are voting with their feet. They have fled
California talked about this. California became a state in eighteen fifty.
From eighteen fifty to twenty twenty, California's population increased every
year eighteen fifty to twenty twenty. Suddenly, in twenty twenty,
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California's population started to decline. The only reason California's decline
hasn't declined even more precipitously illegal immigrants. But the actual
number of residents of California has been declining year after
year during Gavin Newsom's tenure. People are voting with their
feet and leaving that state. And that's despite the fact
that in many ways, as many of you listening to
(07:04):
me in California know right now, I've spent a lot
of time in California. Probably the city that I'm in
right now.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Washington, d C.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
I live in Nashville. Nashville is number one city I've
spent the most time in. I went to college here
in Washington, d C. Number two. La number three. I
have spent years of my life because Fox Sports is
based in LA, traveling back and forth in LA. I
love a lot of the people in LA. It's a
fabulous place, Garden of Eden in many ways they have
(07:33):
destroyed it. Democrat rule, both the mayor and the governor,
the congressmen and women, the Kamala Harrises of the world
have taken a true American Garden of Eden, and they
have both metaphorically and unfortunately oftentimes legitimately, Democrats have lit
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that city in state on fire. And that's what we're
seeing right now, is we are seeing the major consequences
of a series of awful decisions being made time after
time after time. And this is significant. The overwhelming majority
of Americans are seeing what Trump is doing on immigration
(08:14):
and they're saying this is the right choice.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Listen, this is CNN.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
So what CNN had on this morning, Cut twenty six
the Trump approval rating on immigration surging like a rocket.
According to CNN, this is what they were saying this morning.
Listen to cut twenty six.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
You know, if we just take a look at the
baseline numbers here, this is Trump's net approval rating on immigration.
It's gone up like a rocket compared now versus eight
years ago. During Trump's first term, look at this, and
his first term, Trump was way way way underwater minus.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Twenty one points. But look at this, He's up over
twenty points now in the aggregate, he.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
Is in positive territory if plus one point on his
net approval rating. Some other polls even have it a
little bit higher than that. There is no issue on
which Trump is doing so much better than he was
in his first term more than the issue of immigration.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
No wonder The Times has written up the way that
he is.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Trump is begging for a fight on this because he
knows what he's doing so far is working with the
American electorate.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Nothing has he been more right about in his entire
political career than immigration. And as he has made the
argument over the last nine years, ten years since he
came down that escalator at Trump Tower, the American public
has come to see Trump was right, and Biden, I
really believe this allowed an invasion of this country.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
You see all those.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
People waving Mexican flags as they burned American vehicles, as
they threw rocks at American police. It is a sign
that we have lost much of our country. You engage
in violent behavior while waving the flag of another country.
(09:58):
What else is that but an invasion and an actual insurrection.
CNN confronted Mayor Karen Bass about this, saying, hey, there's
overwhelming support for President Trump's deportation agenda. What do you
have to say about that? This was cut twenty seven
a little bit earlier. Are Democrats out of touch on
(10:21):
this issue?
Speaker 6 (10:22):
Well, I think if you did the polling in Los Angeles,
I'm not sure it would be that way, considering we
are a city of immigrants, and then people might approve
that policy. But do people really approve the federal government
coming in and seizing power from a state and from
a city. So I drilled down a little further on
that poll because I do not believe that Americans support
(10:47):
the federal intervention in a city takeover or a state takeover.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
It's not a city or state takeover, it's a city
at state protection because the people in charge of the
city and state are unwilling to protect the people who
live there. Trump is doing what they should be doing
and what unfortunately he has to do. And let me
say this, I'm probably gonna get people fired up about this.
I just shared a video. It's a video of LA
police officers trying to hide underneath an overpass as big
(11:17):
rocks are being thrown at them, later effectively molotov cocktails
being thrown at them. Why shouldn't the LA Police Department
be able to open up fire? I mean this honestly.
If you are being attacked potentially by someone who is
putting your body and your safety in peril, it is
(11:39):
not crazy to think that one of these officers could
get hit by a big rock and die. It is
not crazy to think that one of these officers could
get hit by one of these molotov cocktails. You should
be able to open fire. I think they should wipe
these guys out. I'm sorry, I'm past the point of
being concerned when someone is on an overpass throwing rocks
(12:01):
at you, When they are throwing molotov cocktails at your
police vehicles, the police should be able to open fire
and wipe those dudes out.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
I'm not gonna apologize for that, because their lives are
in danger. Their friends' lives are in danger that they're
working with. We got to stop this Namby Pamby. Police
can't defend themselves.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Bs.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
I gotta be careful not to curse here, because when
I watch those videos, I get angry, and I know
a lot of y'all are police officers military that are
listening right now.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
When you see.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
People putting police officers lives in danger. Those guys should
get wiped out. I'm sorry. Police should open fire, they
should hit them, they should wipe them out. They should
arrest them if they're still alive, cuff them throwing the
back of the cruiser, prosecute them to the full extent
of the law. I don't think this is a difficult
decision at all. Again, I'm talking about the videos. You
(12:53):
go to my Twitter account, we'll share it from Clay
and Buck. The videos that are out there of police officers,
wives being put in danger and they're just supposed to
sit there and take it. No, the message that would
be sent is when you attack police officers, you should
expect to die. That should be the message. Not talking
(13:14):
about peaceful protest, but when you are throwing from an
overpass big huge pieces of rock that if they hit
people would kill them. When you are throwing molotov cocktails
designed to light police vehicles on fire, you shouldn't be
able to do that. Police should be able to respond
(13:36):
with force. And I think if they responded with force suddenly,
all these Antifa lunatics would say, wait a minute, maybe
we shouldn't be doing this. Maybe there are real consequences
for our behavior. The entire reason that we have laws
is because we have the idea that people are going
(13:57):
to respond rationally who consequences that are laid out against
them when it comes to violent behavior. Clearly that hasn't worked.
And so when you have people engaging in violent attacks
on police, I think the police should be able to
open fire wipe them out. So you're gonna be angry
about that. I'm not gonna apologize for it. I don't
(14:18):
know how many other people are making that argument. I'm
not sure that anybody else has, But I'm just gonna
tell you exactly what I think.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Those police officers.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Their lives should not be in danger because these lunatics
feel like that they can just throw rocks from an
overpass and molotov cocktails from an overpass at police officers
and there's not gonna be any consequences at all. Hope
give them the ability to return fire. Your lives are
(14:46):
in danger. You shouldn't have to stand there and just
get pelted and just watch your police cruiser burn because
the people that are your bosses are too much of
cowards to allow you to defend yourself. So and I
would ask the President to say the same thing. Hey,
every police officer in America, I will pardon you if
(15:07):
you are being attacked and you need to defend yourself,
do it. I've got your back. I think you would
see things change in a hurry when it comes to violent,
criminal protesting behavior. Look, I want to take a minute
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and we'll share it from Clay and Buck two if
we haven't already?
Speaker 2 (17:31):
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Speaker 1 (17:32):
The police should be able to respond with deadly force
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rolling through the program with us in Washington, DC, where
President Trump just landed back on the self lawn a
(19:20):
few blocks away, and we're gonna have the audio for
you of this in a moment. It's a little bit
difficult to hear because you can still hear the helicopter
in the background. But he said if he were Tom
Homan that he would arrest Gavin Newsom. But we have
several of you who want to weigh in again, I
would love to hear. I've asked for two different types
(19:42):
of callers so far. LA Area people, particularly, what are
the conversations like for your in your conversations that you
are hearing now as the riots played out over the
weekend LA only I understand.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
The lot of you.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
I'm just curious about people who are actually living there.
And then secondarily the videos cops that you have seen,
is deadly force warranted when there are bricks, concrete, big rocks,
objects being pelted at police as well as molotov cocktails
(20:22):
thrown at their police vehicles. To me, this is not
even a difficult call. I'm sure the police have been
told that they cannot take action. But as for police
that are out there listening, and I would like for
you to watch the videos. If you haven't already seen them,
they're up at MA. You can just go to Clay
Travis on Twitter and you can see the videos that
(20:43):
I'm talking about. But am I wrong that deadly force
is warranted here? Let's see Jonathan in LA. What do
you think as you are watching these in your home city.
Speaker 7 (20:59):
Yeah, we're here in the LA area and I was
driving down to take my wife and kids to the airport.
And if they're saying there's nothing going on, it's it's
totally orchestrated and it's totally fraudulent. I watched twenty one
marked and unmarked cars cop cars speeding down the express
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lane towards downtown LA. I don't do that just for fun.
There's something going on, and it's clearly it was clearly
you know, in a huge hurry. I do know, and
I will I will say this. You have you had
the head of the SEIU. He was arrested a few
days ago, and Maxine Water goes to try to visit him.
(21:42):
I mean, it's kind of like, why there's something more
afoot and it feels like it feels.
Speaker 8 (21:47):
Like a repeat.
Speaker 7 (21:49):
These people repeat stuff over and over again. They're boring,
They're play there. You know, their their playbook is is
very predictable. Yet it seems to be effective. It constantly
and I think you're seeing it play out again. I
don't think Trump's going to go along with it like
he did before.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, I think he's certainly not going to go along
with it like he did before. It's also worth noting politically.
First of all, I think Trump wants the cities to
be safe. I was sharing all of the murder data.
The violent crime rate in this country has plummeted in
the first six months that Trump has been in office,
not getting much attention, but it has plummeted. Trump's also
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not ever going to have to run for reelection and
the fact that Democrats, I really think took advantage of
the summer of twenty twenty to try and make Trump
look bad. I think those were orchestrated protests designed to
occur in an election year to damage Trump politically as
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much as they could, And I think there was a
political calculus that is different.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Now.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Trump doesn't care what people think. He's just going to
do what he thinks is right. And in the wake
of surviving the or Pennsylvania assassination of July thirteenth, I
think Trump legitimately believes that he was kept on earth
for a reason.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I think that he believes that he was spared by God.
I really do.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
And I think that he has decided that he is
going to do everything that he thinks is right, come
hell or high water, and he's not going to be
worried about what people.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Say against him.
Speaker 9 (23:26):
Now.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
He just landed on the South Lawn. Buck and I
are going to be in the Oval Office with him
on Thursday, have a conversation. Looking forward to that. But
this was Trump asked directly about Gavin Newsom. We played
the audio for you of Gavin Newsom begging Tom Holman
to arrest him. Trump was asked whether or not he
thinks the California Governor Gavin Newsom should be arrested for
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impeding ice as Gavin Newsom encouraged the administration to do.
Speaker 7 (23:53):
Listen, Gavin Newsom, he's daring Tom Holman become an arrectum.
Should he do it. I would do it.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Because I would gone. I think it's pains the Gavin likes.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
The most of it, but I think it w everything.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
He's done a terrible job.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Because I like gavenus and he's a nice guy, but.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
He's grossly incompetent. Everybody knows.
Speaker 8 (24:16):
All you have to do is look at the little
railroad he's building.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
It's about a hundred times over budget.
Speaker 8 (24:21):
We're putting a flag pole.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Over there under budget.
Speaker 7 (24:24):
I always do an.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Under buddy, all right.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
I know again, because you could hear the helicopter rotors
there in the background.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Would try.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
I like Gavin Newsom, but he's grossly incompetent. He then
Trump is putting in a new flagpole. Uh, and he
says that they're gonna do it under budget, because he
always builds things under budget, whereas Gavin Newsom, and this
is true, one of the most ridiculous boondoggles probably in
the history of American politics, is currently underway with the
railroad that they are trying to build in California. I
(24:55):
know some of you are rolling your eyes about it.
It's way over budget. They basically built none of it.
And it's supposed to be high speed rail. I believe
it's supposed to connect California. I mean LA and San Francisco.
Team in New York, correct me if I'm wrong on
that being the destination that they are trying to do,
to connect LA and San Francisco via high speed rail,
(25:18):
and they've just been completely unable to do it. It
is gross incompetence and it has cost California taxpayers billions
of dollars already and they've got nothing to show for it.
And you know they made the decision. I know not
a lot about building railroad. It's not gonna stun you.
(25:38):
I'm not sitting around in my free time with my
railroad displays and my little conductor hat making all my
making all my railroads, and I've not studied the railway industry.
Seems like the easiest thing to do would have been
to run the railway alongside of the existing interstate, because
(26:02):
you've already got right of way, you've already created all
of the challenges associated with getting an actual interstate built.
I don't know why they made the decision not to
do that, but I would have just done that. Instead,
they're trying to build an entirely new railway network unconnected
(26:22):
to the existing interstates. They've had to take over so
much land, they've had to cut through so many farms,
and they haven't.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Even done anything with it yet.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
So look, I think Gavin Newsom wants to be arrested
because he wants the attention he's going to run for
president in twenty twenty eight. He wants to make the
argument that Trump is an authoritarian dictator and if he'll
arrest the sitting governor of California, none of us are safe.
But if the sitting governor of California refuses to follow
(26:52):
federal law, as he is obligated to do under the
supremacy Clause of the Constitution, what should the president do?
Speaker 2 (27:03):
I mean, I think it's a really.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Challenging question because Trump is actually acting to protect the
people of Los Angeles when their mayor and their governor
will not do it, but they are bragging about directly
defying federal law. Well, look, the entire concept of our
constitution is predicated on federal overruling state when there is
(27:28):
a conflict on who has the who has the power
now on things that are not giving you a little
bit of a constitutional law, lesson going back in time
on things that are uncertain. The whole concept of federalism is, Hey,
we're going to allow the states to be laboratories and
do their own research and do their own projects, and
(27:49):
the best decisions by the states, we would hope would
then spread. So I believe very much in federalism. But
the courts have clearly said that each state can't have
its own immigration policy, and each state can't have its
own city and state immigration policies. You have to have
federal immigration law. And we talked about it a lot
(28:10):
on the program because sometimes it was very frustrating to
many of you in Texas, and even the governor of
Texas himself, Greg Abbott, because he would say, how in
the world am I not allowed to protect my state
and my cities from Biden's open border policies? And there
were a lot of different court decisions. I came on
(28:31):
this program, I said, you're not gonna like it, you know,
not gonna like it that the courts are saying, Hey,
it's the province of the president to determine immigration policy.
But you clearly can't have fifty different immigration policies. We
have to have federal immigration policy. And Trump is saying
I'm implementing federal immigration policy. City and state government should
(28:55):
not have the opportunity to obfuscate to oppose the federal
government from implementing federal immigration law. I don't think this
is a very challenging situation. So what do you do
if they will not allow that to happen. I think
it's a super challenging position politically, especially when the governor
(29:17):
of California is daring you to arrest him for violating
the law. The law's pretty clear. I think Gavin Newsom
is in the wrong. Now, you got to work through
your way through the California courts. First, do you think
there's any federal district court judges in California that are
going to say, you know what, Gavin Newsom has violated
federal law?
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Probably not.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Is the Circuit court that governs California, Washington, and Oregon
Ninth Circuit. Are they going to say that California doesn't
have the right to defy federal immigration law.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Probably not. So it's going to have to be expedited
all the way up to the.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Supreme Court, potentially depending on who the judges are that
end up with cases like these. And given and that
the primary opposition to Trump two point zero has been
government in nature, I think you just have to be
careful about the battles that you're undertaking in the court system.
And I think California, I would expect, if it hasn't
already happened, I would expect that California is going to
(30:16):
try to sue to argue that Trump doesn't have the
authority to call in the National Guard into Los Angeles.
But he does clearly because again of the supremacy clause,
which gives the federal government the power over state. Remember,
this wouldn't be complicated. And there's a reason why things
like this aren't happening in red states because I guarantee
(30:36):
you if the state of Florida had a protest like
this going on, first of all, Governor Ron DeSantis would
take care of it. Red state governors would not allow
this to happen. So that's point one point two. If
they did need help, they would ask for it. But crazily,
what are you supposed to do If the mayor of
(30:57):
Los Angeles, Karen Bass is okay with the city burning,
if the governor is what about Chicago? Do you feel
like the mayor of Chicago, Brandon Johnson's gonna stop the
city of Chicago from burning?
Speaker 2 (31:08):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Do you feel like Mayor Wu in Boston's gonna stop
Boston from burning?
Speaker 2 (31:14):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Maybe Eric Adams would do it right now in New
York City, maybe he would. But a lot of these
big cities in blue states with blue state governors and
blue state mayors, they're not. They just think this is
the price that has to be paid lighting a city
on fire.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Small price to pay.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
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like many of you, I was watching last night as
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much of the pro tests turned into violence, and I
want to hit a bunch of different calls out there.
And again I'm referring to video that I shared. You
can go see it is just to kind of describe
it for those of you who have not seen it.
From a highway overpass, police are trapped on the underpass.
(33:20):
They are trying to protect their vehicles underneath so they
can't be reached, but there is not enough space and
so the police are having rockets, rocks thrown at them,
and then there are molotov cocktails also being thrown that
could and did catch their police vehicles on fire. To me,
it seems like a clear situation where use of force
(33:43):
that is violent, potentially death causing force could be justified.
And I'm asking for people out there that have had
experience in law enforcement. You can also respond on my
Twitter account, as I'm sure many of you will and
already are. Jane in California, former law enforcement and former
active duty military. When you see what was happening to
(34:05):
the LA police last night as a part of these riots,
should they be able to defend themselves? Is violent force
lethal force potentially warranted based on what you've.
Speaker 8 (34:16):
Seen, Absolutely, sir, deadly force can be met with deadly force,
And there is no no good leader should place his
people in harm's way without their capacity to defend themselves.
That is actually criminal. So people need to be ready
(34:38):
for some consequences because I hail from Latin America. I mean,
my family is from Latin America. You know, bls know
what I can do the whole conversation and finish I want.
But every self respecting Mexican that I know is embarrassed
by this. This is some drama show that's being put
on by somebody to try and elicit something, and good
(34:58):
people are going to get hurt. So this is the
nobody who is you know with has a rational mind
needs to be going down there. This is this is
really bad and it's dangerous. So this is not a protest.
It is a riot, So no need for a counter protest.
Avoid those areas. Let the cops do their job.
Speaker 9 (35:17):
I was also National Guard.
Speaker 8 (35:18):
Let the National Guard do they're dump and I was
active duty for five years twenty years law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
So thank you.
Speaker 9 (35:24):
This is a dangerous situation and no doubt.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
To you that police would be justified in using violent
force to respond based on what you've seen.
Speaker 8 (35:32):
Absolutely, you are one hundred percent correct. And it moves
from this to another thing. You mentioned all the dangers
that California is in as you move from this little
game to something else, to something else. California is is
in danger, so people stay away from that. Let the
people do their job, and leaders let their people do
their job swiftly and.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Get this over with.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Thank you very much, very fast. Bill in Savannah, Georgia,
retired law enforcement and doubt based on what you've seen,
that police are entitled to defend themselves.
Speaker 9 (36:05):
No, absolutely entire to defend themselves. You're hot, and the
police academy to defend yourself and the lives of others.
If you're in danger, then deadly force is authorized. And
these people, I mean, I hate to say it, but
the only thing that you're gonna stop this is only
(36:25):
this kind of stuff with malasif contails and stuff from
going on, the active, active, or deadly force is used.
That's going to desure a whole bunch of these people
about it.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Amen, Sorry to cut you off for coming up on
the end of the hour. Senator Marsha Blackburn with us next,
but I'll ask her about this as well. To me,
there's no doubt l A cops should be able to
protect themselves from violent attacks.
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