April 25, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show features an in-depth interview with Border Czar Tom Homan, who discusses the significant progress made in securing the U.S. southern border under the Trump administration. Homan highlights the dramatic reduction in illegal border crossings, which have decreased by over 90% in seven weeks, and emphasizes the effectiveness of ending catch and release policies. He also addresses the challenges posed by sanctuary cities, radical judges, and legal obstacles that hinder deportation efforts.
Homan reveals that some illegal immigrants are self-deporting due to the stringent enforcement measures and discusses the long-term strategy of the Democrats to overwhelm the immigration system, making it difficult to deport the millions of illegal immigrants who entered during the Biden administration. He underscores the importance of strong interior enforcement and the need for legal reforms to ensure lasting border security.
The hour also touches on the personal dedication of Tom Homan, who works tirelessly to secure the border and protect American citizens, despite facing numerous threats. The segment concludes with Homan's commitment to continue his efforts and the hope that Congress will enact laws to prevent future administrations from reversing the progress made.
The show wraps up with Clay Travis addressing the recent arrest of a Milwaukee judge for obstructing federal immigration enforcement, highlighting the legal and ethical implications of such actions. Additionally, Clay discusses the NFL draft and reacts to comments made by former Congressman Jamal Bowman regarding the draft status of Shadu Sanders, emphasizing the complexities and controversies surrounding race and sports.
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in hour number three Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.
Appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we
are rolling through the.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Final hour of the week.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Fourteen hours up, fifteen hours underway, now the fifteenth hour
of the program, and I'm up in DC right now,
and I spent some time over at the White.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
House earlier today.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Got to talk with Tom Homan, who is implementing Donald
Trump's border policy, and certainly a news breaking day in
that arena. We talked a couple of hours ago this morning,
just next door to the White House in the old
Executive Office building. This is what it sounded like, And
(00:43):
it started with this first question for me, for Tom Homan,
how would he assess the first hundred days of the
work that they've been able to do so far, and
how well has it gone. This is what it sounded like.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
We're kicking ass I mean, look at the number. So,
I mean, in seven weeks we got border crossings down
over ninety percent, and right now is today we're down
ninety six percent. So based on the data, real data,
we have the most secure border in the history of
this nation today, which is a huge success. And and
other than just the numbers being down ninety six percent.
(01:20):
There's two other metrics I look at on the border
that extraordinary. Under Joe Biden, we averaged eighteen hundred gotaways
a day. Eighteen hundred known got aways, people we know
across the border. We got away because the border shows
too busy changing diapers, making baby form and so forth.
We went from eighteen hundred day to less than forty
forty forty two minutes. Yeah, we'll get them. We'll get
(01:42):
them too. And the other number is of those that
we apprehend every day. Under Joe Biden, we got over
eleven thousand day. Today's number was one hundred and seventy
eight eleven thousand to one hundred and seventy other The
third metric I looked at how many people have got
released from the border because President Trump ended catching release right.
(02:03):
So from inauguration day to April first, last year January twentieth,
April first last runner by they released one hundred and
eighty four thousand people illegal aliens into the United States.
Same time period on the Trump nine four of them
were mature witnesses we needed for criminal trial. Four was
(02:23):
extremely urgent medical needs that we couldn't we couldn't remove
got to take care of the medical needs right away,
and one was for a humanitarian reason. I think it
was some sort of organ transplant for a dyne child
one hundred and eighty four thousand to nine. So we
have the most secure border in history of this nation
right now.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Okay, so the border is secure is one of the
biggest allies we were ever told that Congress had to
act to secure the border.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
President Trump did in seven weeks with Joe Biden. Couldn't
have went doing four years, Like the President said, you
just need a new president. Right, So we already secured
the board at record levels during Trump forty five, and
we knew what we need to do to get it back.
Plus we're taking additional steps in addition what we did before. Again,
he achieved the most secure border in seven weeks, but
(03:12):
now it's a record achievement because we're even securing at
a higher level. Now. You know, President was able to
do this because of his out of box thinker. Right,
whether we remain in Mexico Program, Thursday Country Games, and
in country release, plus the consequences people now know if
you come to our border, you're not being released in
(03:33):
stays we'll hide out. So you can't have strong border
security if you don't have strong anterior enforcement and consequences.
So all this is plays in to a great success.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
How many people do you think are illegally in the
country right now? Twenty million?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
If there are twenty million? Two part build on that.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Do you think some people are now self deporting because
they're aware that there are content sequences for being here illegally?
Do you think that's a real thing that's happening, Yes,
you do. How significant do you think.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
GP one app I think we're if I remember cart,
we're over five thousand already. A lot of people are
just self reporting without going through the CPP home map,
the intelligence report showing caravan setting south, the Darien gad
which bare just thousand people going north. Now that now
people are going south. Let's not shut down. That's going south. Yeah,
(04:28):
people realize that there's no free right anymore. You're not
gonna be arrested at the border and released. You're going
to be either immediately returned, You're gonna be detained until
we return you. You're not walking away from the border.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Okay, So if if some people are starting to self deport,
obviously much of the media attention has been on the
intentional deportations that are occurring inside of the country. And
it seems to me, and you correct me if I'm wrong, here,
we had a policy where Joe Biden lets ten million
plus illegals in. You said, you think there's roughly twenty
million illegals in the country at best case scenario rates
(05:04):
right now, it would appear that we're deporting around three
hundred and fifty thousand people on average a year. It
seems like they have to past set up a policy
where as many people illegally basically as possible can come in,
and then they're trying to restrict clearly the ability to
send those people back out by throwing everything in front,
(05:24):
legal obstacles, everything else. Is that an accurate assessment?
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Absolutely? Picture, Absolutely is what they did. They played the long,
long term plan, right, they're playing the long game, and
they're pretty smart about it. You bring ten point five
million people into the country, you release the vast majority
into the country, and not an ice attention. Because they're
placing ice attention at one hundred and twenty seven dollars
a night for a bed. They get hearing within thirty
(05:50):
five days. Yeah, we know nine out of ten do
not qualify for asylum. They get immediately removed, and nine
out of ten that's the immigration court data from ten years.
So let's not put them an ice attention, get hearing
me in thirty five days and go home. Let's release
them and put them in a hotel room at five
hundred bucks a night, give them three meals a day,
give free medical care, give work authorization within nine and
(06:11):
twenty days. Exactly why they came here, not because it's solum,
but to get a better life. Iite, and I understand
that purposely overwhelmed the system. So they back the immigration
court up on personal purpose. So now it's going to
take three, five, seven years if you if you go
through all the peel process could be as high as
nine courts in New York City. They knew if they
(06:32):
overwhelmed the system, these people couldn't be returned right away
and maybe by the time that five years rolls wrong
with seven years rolls around them, they have a democratic
administration off some boom amnesty across the boats. So their
their long game is that's what they intend to do.
It's not by accident, isn't incompetence isn't you know, it's mismanagement.
(06:52):
This is by design. So what we're doing now, we're
trying to move people as question as possible. But now
you've got radical judges and district court. You got to
district court judge. Issue is a national injunction? Yes, district
how used to work district right, So that's where we're
taking us to the Supreme Court. District court judge shouldn't
have to should put a nationwide injunction outside of this district.
(07:14):
There's slow between sanctuary cities. UH judges, the radical judges
and and and the NGOs and people like aoc Is
says she's going to educate people as we're constitutional rights.
Don't open the door for eyes, don't talk to ice.
You and I both know her end game as they
made law enforcement. That's about the change real fast. I'm
not going to I'm not going to talk about it
(07:35):
right now, but the next two ways you're going to
see we're no longer going to we're no longer going
to accept that you're going to open the door. Well,
we're gonna prosecute you. We're done. So with all these
things working against us, we still got three times we
arrested three times more criminal ailiens and Joe Biden did
the entire year. We're accomplished that in two months. So
ICE is rocking and rolling. But we could do a
(07:57):
lot more if we didn't have these radical judges putting
national nationwide in junction house.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
You are constantly having to answer the accusation that you're
raiding schools, that you're raiding churches, that you're going after kids.
It's not true, But what do you want people to
hear directly from you on that accusation?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Sensitive location policy said ICE couldn't make arrest and sense
the location churches, schools, hospitals, daycare centers, and all this
other stuff. We were the only law federal law enforce
enforcement agency in the nation who had such a policy.
FPI I don't have that policy, DA don't have that policy.
ATF don't have that policy. So we did the way
(08:37):
the policy I could. We're signing a clear message significant
public safety threats or national security threats have no sanctuary.
For instance, we got an MS thirty team members have
senior in high school and we're looking for them. We
can't find them, but now we had information you're sit
in that classroom right now, significant public safety threat. We're
going to that school with local authorities. We will place
(08:57):
them und arrest. We're not going to sweep this score.
We're not going to ask every student aw school the nationality.
Same thing with the same thing with churches. We know
there's a national security connected with terrorism and he's attending mass.
We're going to go to the church. We wan't arrest
them now, we'll probably rest on his way out. We'll
send someone in watch make sure he leaves. But we're
(09:19):
going there's no sanctuary for criminals and that security threats,
and that's what the policy is about. You're not going
to see a school being sweeped or a church being
sweep learning of that stuff. It's just garbage. But the
left media puts that out and putting the fear in
the immigrant community to turn the tide against us. Right,
I promise the day one will be transparent American people.
We can't lose the faith and support American people. But
(09:40):
the left working real hard to send misinformation now, so
people say, Okay, maybe ICE is a radical group. I
read last night the Weies is compared to the Nazis,
for God's sakes, and you look at what they're doing.
They're concentrating public sates thrusts and NATA and security thrusting,
and the data clearly shows it. Every public safety threat
we arrest in depoor. This country's that much safer.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
When you see Democrats flying to El Salvador to make,
in theory the focal point of your deportation policy. A
alleged wife beater, a guy who was clearly adjudicated to
be here illegally, evidence a massive amount that he is
an MS thirteen gang member, and evidence out of Tennessee
(10:27):
that he may well have been engaged in human trafficking
because he was driving a human traffickers car and all
the people that were in that vehicle were let go
by Joe Biden's FBI.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Are you sometimes in disbelief.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
That this is the guy they decided to decide that
they need to go to war to defend.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Actually, I am, I mean, I knew, I said on
numerous radio shows after President Trump won, and we're waiting
to come back in I said day one, they're gonna
they're gonna vilify the men and women of Ice. They're
gonna vilify the men and women of the war. When
everybody in this administration who's going to enforce him our
grays law. I called day one, but I said, they're
going to capture a video first woman or child crying
(11:08):
and play it on a real over and over against Yeah.
I never thought for a moment they're going to support
an MS thirteen gang member designated terrorists that we removed
to his homeland. He's home. Yeah, and we did the
right thing. But I find it, you know, I'm shocked
every day and more want to go down there and
hug him. Just it's ridiculous. And while Mayn Hallen went
(11:28):
down there the day before he took went El Salvador.
There's an illegal alien that was charged with murder released
from custody. They ignored the ice detainer and released into
the street and we took custody back.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Wrong.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Rachel Morin was murdered in Maryland. How come he's not
beating with Angel moms and dads. I mean, he ought
to be fixed the sanctuary status of that state rather
than going to hugging on an MS thirteen terrorists. I
find it shocking, but you know, I hope they keep
doing it.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
How many hours day are you working right now? I
don't know I work how many hours do you sleep.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
When I leave? I can tell you this. Since January twentieth,
I think I've had total days off without working four.
I mean, even i'm home, I'm on my computer working
my security detail. I got the best security detail that
exists in these guys. They're also and there as a
(12:23):
lot of death threats against me and my family, and
I'm working these guys to death. I mean, they're working
seven days a week and it's a tough job. But
you know, it's just what we're doing for his start.
When I retired for the third time, I'm going to say, Okay,
I'm done.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Now what are you going to do when you retire?
Speaker 3 (12:44):
I'll probably keep raising hell as the Democrat administration comes
and tries to undo everything we did, I'm hoping Congress
fix that Congress and change a few laws to make
this permanent so every four years we don't have to
worry about another president coming in undoing it all.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
That's Tom Holman and going to let you guys react
to eight hundred and two two two eight a two.
Take some of your calls here in the third hour
as we finish off the week. But I gotta tell
you just heard me ask Tom Homan, how many hours
a week are you working? He's basically working all the time.
Guy's got unbelievable energy set. Has only had four days
off since Trump came into office, nearly one hundred days ago.
(13:22):
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because black guys in particular won't vote for a gay
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and then I'm coming back from break and I say, okay.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Where's our guy? And he's bailed.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
So he maybe call back in at some point, maybe
we'll have the time for him. I did want to
play this though, that Tom Homan interview that you guys
just heard him up in DC. I interviewed him earlier
today and this is how the interview ended. He told
me that he had to leave, and I want you
to hear what he was doing in addition to everything else.
(15:29):
Listen from here, you are going to take a nine
year old make a wish kid where and with everything
that you've got going on right now, why is it
important to take the time to do that.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Because I'm a father and my worst nightmare is to
bury my child. I've held many dying children throughout my career.
On the border, I've found many dead children, and every
child I see the face of God and every child
I've ever met, I don't care who that child is.
(16:06):
So I was asked by a Capitol police officer who's
friends with his family, so anyway we can get him
into why hous and just to look at the residute death,
just to see where the boss sits. I'm doing it.
I think is the right thing to do. And as
a father, I just God best the family. I just
it's any parent's worst thing there. So I'll do whatever
(16:27):
I can to bring a smile to his face. But
it's just a sad story all the way wrong.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
I wanted to close with that because when we sat
down for the interview, he just said, Hey, I've got
to go, I've got fifteen minutes, and he told me
what he was going to be doing. But I think
it speaks to Tom Homan. The guy is working almost
every hour of every day to try to secure our
(16:54):
nation's borders and to try to get bad guys out
of this country. He's got a huge security detail because
I bet second or thirds probably to Trump and Elon Musk,
nobody is getting more personal threats against him and his
family than Tom Homan is right now. And yet he
still has the decency and humanity to be thinking even
(17:20):
amid all of those jobs, Hey, I'm gonna make the
time to take a kid into the Oval office who's
nine years old and has a severe, potentially deadly disease
that he and his family are dealing with. I mean,
I just think it's almost impossible not to love this
(17:42):
guy and to be as committed to his craft, to
be as committed to what he's doing as he is,
should be an inspiration to all of us. Donald Trump
made a hell of a hire with Tom Homan. When
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Welcome back in play Travis buck Sexton show, I'm up
in DC. You just heard my interview with Tom Homan
buck out for the last hour as he is racing
around with the new baby and family in town. We
started off the show though, a couple of hours ago,
talking about a judge in Milwaukee who was arrested for
(19:13):
violating the law indefinitely protecting, according to the accusations, someone
who was in the process of being deported by Ice,
and the exact details of what that judge in the
Milwaukee area had done had not been out Attorney General
Pam Bondi was just on Fox News explaining why that
(19:38):
arrest occurred and what the judge did.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
Listen to this rayer for victims to want to cooperate.
They wanted to cooperate. They were sitting in the courtroom
with the state prosecutor. The judge learns that Ice was
outside to get the guy because he had been deported
in twenty thirteen, came back in our country, commits these crimes.
Charged with committing these crimes. Victims in court. Judge finds out.
She goes out in the hallway, screams at the immigration officers.
(20:05):
She's furious, visibly shaken, upset, sends them off to talk
to the chief judge. She comes back in the courtroom
here can believe this, takes the defendant and the defense
attorney back in her chambers, takes them out of private
exit and tells them to leave while a state prosecutor
and victims of domestic violence are sitting in the courtroom.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
That is Attorney General Pam Bondi describing what she said
happened in a Milwaukee courtroom, and again to just unpack
what she said there there are witnesses that are prepared
to testify about the crimes that this illegal alien has committed.
There is an ICE agent who is aware that this
(20:48):
person should not be in the country and is prepared
to take this individual into custody.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
The judge is.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Furious, runs interference, sends the ICE agent to talk to
a chief judge in the courthouse, and then brings the
defense attorney and the illegal immigrant into her chambers and
sneaks them out the back exit so that ICE can't
take him into custody. Assuming that all of that is true,
(21:18):
which is exactly what Pambondy just laid out, it's pretty
jaw dropping that a judge would undertake that activity clearly
in contravention of the law. But a caller earlier asked
the question, and I think this is what Tom Holman
was suggesting to me in that interview when he said,
(21:42):
over the next couple of weeks, we're going to be
doing way more with people who are breaking federal immigration law.
A lot of different individuals out there have been arguing
that they will not enforce federal immigration law law. That's
the basis to a large extent of the sanctuary city dynamic.
(22:06):
There are a lot of mayors out there of big
American cities that have basically said we're not going to
cooperate with the federal government when it comes to trying
to deport illegals that are in our cities. That's the
entire concept of sanctuary cities. It's we're not going to
in any way coordinate with the federal government. Now a
(22:29):
little bit that can be a challenge because there's a
difference between sometimes coordination and obstruction. What is that fine
line between we're not going to participate and help you
and we're actually going to obstruct you from doing your job.
I would argue that when you are not cooperating, you
(22:52):
are in some way obstructing somebody from doing their job.
But certainly you're obstructing when you are a judge, and
according to Pambondi, you are opening the back door exit
of your chambers to allow someone who would have otherwise
gone into federal custody to avoid going into federal custody.
(23:13):
And it's going to take some of these individuals being
prosecuted in order for others to understand what the consequences
are for behavior such as this. We've got to talk
back Trent in Denver, Colorado. He's at Freedom ninety three seven.
(23:33):
By the way, thanks to our DC affiliate, I am
broadcasting from Freedom one oh four point seven. You can
listen to us here in the DC area. Here is
what Trent had to say reacting to the Tom Homan interview.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
Hey, Clay, love everything you guys do. I love the
interview with Tom Holman. The guy is truly a legend.
He's a true American hero. It's legendary what he's doing.
I wish they didn't have to come to this, but
you know, he's definitely the right guy for the job,
and you know, proud to be his fellow American.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
You know.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Another part of that interview, and I think the interview
will be up on video. You'll be able to see
it if you want to see the video from my
Twitter account here in a little bit. But I asked
him about his reaction to Joe Biden trying to claim
that the guys who were If you remember in the
early days of the Biden administration, there was a viral
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photo of border patrol agents, one guy on a horse
trying to stop somebody from being able to cross illegally
into the country, and the Biden team compared those actions
to slavery. Even said that the reins on the horse
were basically being used to whip people, if you remember that.
And then they had an investigation and they found out, oh,
(24:57):
that's none of that's true. Actually, everything that this individual
and the Border Patrol was doing was completely appropriate. There's
a huge cadre of people out there, many of them
might be well listening to us right now, who went
into the job at Border Patrol designed to protect America's borders,
(25:19):
and over the four years of Joe Biden suddenly basically,
as Tom Holman said, became a glorified uber driver for
illegal immigrants. As we just waived ten point five million
people into this country. And Tom Holman's saying from a
political perspective, this is the long game that's clearly being
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played by Democrats, and I think this is super important.
We have sealed the southern border, you heard Tom homand
the number of people that are actually getting into the
country now is very small. So for all intents and purposes,
our southern border is shut and people are even being
a to leave. They're actively deporting themselves. But what they
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recognize is in order to get ten point five million
illegals out of this country. We would have to average
over the next four years deporting a little bit over
two point five million people a year. Right now, we're
on pace to deport three hundred and fifty thousand. That
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means just to get all of the Joe Biden illegals
out at this pace, it would take roughly thirty years
of constant work. That's presuming there's no Democrat administrations. That's
presuming there are no changes in current immigration policy that
(26:49):
we have today, which I think it's fair for you
and me and everybody out there to acknowledge is highly unlikely.
It would take thirty years just to get out the
four years worth of illegals.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
That Joe Biden allowed to enter this country. That's pretty
wild to think about.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
And Democrats, trust me, have done that map, done that math,
and they understand that it is in their favor, and
it's why they are using the courts to try to
keep the deportation process so slow. And some of you
probably going to email me, because I get these emails.
You're going to say, well, Obama or Clinton or insert
(27:31):
George W. Bush, whichever president you want to cite, Well,
they deported millions of people. Why that's not an accurate
reflection of the numbers because they used to count as
a deportation someone who was not allowed to enter the country.
So everyone who was trying to come illegally when we
(27:51):
still had a border, they were counted as if they
had been deported when they weren't allowed to enter the country.
The manpower required to take two million plus people inside
of the country is substantial and get them out of
the country. And that's why the Trump team is trying
(28:14):
to be aggressive in the way that they apply immigration law,
because if they're not, then there's no way they can
get much more than a couple of one hundred thousand
people a year out of this country, which means long
range Democrats have won because they know that ultimately there's
(28:35):
never going to be a process in place to get
out all the people that we need to.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
All right, I'll take some of your calls.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
We'll close up shop next on the week eight hundred
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Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. Buck already
out and about with the new baby and his family
all over the all over the place, which will be
a lot of fun for him. And I wanted to
(30:28):
play a couple of reactions for you guys here as
we close up shop on the Friday edition of the program.
But I mentioned earlier, I've been a lot of you
watched yesterday up in Green Bay, Wisconsin, the NFL draft happened.
Thirty two first round picks, multimillionaires, all each and every
one of them, but Jamal Bowman. You might remember Jamal
(30:49):
Bowman who was the Democrat congressman from New York who
pulled a fire alarm, ended up having to plead guilty
to a misdemeanor if I remember correctly, over the fire
alarm pull and then lost his primary, his Democrat primary.
He was defeated. He yesterday, or maybe it was early
this morning, I guess, because I think it was in
(31:10):
the daylight this morning. He said, Hey, Shadoor Sanders, who
is Dion Sanders's son, He wasn't drafted, and the only
explanation for why he wasn't a first round pick, he's
a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Is racism?
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Yes, the NFL notorious for its unwillingness to play to
pay black players and play them as well. This is
a bad take, but it is what former Democrat Congressman
Jamal Bowman had to take away from the draft yesterday.
Speaker 7 (31:43):
Listen, it's the way Shadoor dresses, it's the way he
talks and his culture. In my opinion, you see him
at the draft last night. He's wearing all black, he
got the ill chain on, and he talks like a rapper.
(32:03):
And you know, I keep hearing, Oh, he's entitled. He
feels entitled. I don't know. It's like these white boys
that came before him don't feel entitled. Eli Manning, Arenchie Manning.
When they said he don't want to play for San Diego,
don't draft me. That's not entitlement. But that was acceptable,
That was okay. This is a black man, what means,
(32:28):
comes from a home with means and has extreme confidence
and is not submitting to y'all in your NFL culture
and the way y'all want to.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
So the new racism is if your dad's actually rich,
then teams are racist against you. Because you're already rich.
This is one of the dumbest arguments I've ever heard.
But it's the kind of argument you would expect from
a guy who pulled a fire emergency fire alarm and
(33:03):
then had to plead guilty to a misdemeanor over it
and then couldn't even win a Democrat primary. But I
did think that that was interesting in and of itself. Now,
there are several people who want to weigh in a
variety of different topics out there, and let me go
ahead and hear first from David in New Orleans. We're
(33:25):
talking with Tom Homan in the third hour about the
challenges associated with deporting as many people as possible, and
you've got to take what you got for.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Us, Yes, sir, I just it just occurred to me
listening to the recitation of the statistics of what it
takes to do the deportation of it, and how the
Democrats are dragging it out. Why isn't it just prudent
for the administration to just proceed a pace and just
(33:53):
swamp the system, because that's what the Democrats are trying
to do. Just got swamp the system with deportations and force. Uh,
you know, force the courts to completely resolve this by
forcing them to make a national stand on whether or
not the president has the authority to do it.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Thank you for the call. I think it's a smart
question to some extent. I think that's what's occurring. They're
looking for the courts to rule that the deportation process
from the president should be as permissible as the entry
of illegal immigrants was. And this is really the essence
of the dispute here, which is so significant. Joe Biden
(34:39):
was able to bring in ten point five million I
legal immigrants. The law allowed him to do that. The
law does not right now allow Donald Trump to deport
ten point five million people as easily as it allowed
them to come into the country. And so what Democrats
are doing is they are exploiting the incompatibility between the
(35:02):
law that allows them to come in and the law
that allows them to be sent out. And Tom Homan
I think nailed it when he said they're playing the
long game, because their gamble is there will not be
the political power wherewithal and also the legal ability to
get these people out once they get in. And the
(35:22):
alarming part here is all we've done is stop the
flow grants it. There's a few hundred thousand that are
going back out, but ninety five percent of the people
who came here illegally are still here the challenge. That
is unfortunate, But I think you have to be cognizant
of and aware of if there is another Democrat president elected,
(35:45):
he or she will do the same things that Joe
Biden did and what is now a stopped secure southern
border will then become wide open all over again, and
they'll flood in millions and millions of more people. And
what they want it to become is such a mess
(36:05):
in this country because there are so many illegals that
then at some point in time amnesty is given. And
when amnesty is given, Democrats are gambling that the people
who are given amnesty are overwhelmingly going to be more
likely to vote for them, which allows them to have
political power for generations and generations to come. That is
(36:29):
the game plan. Otherwise none of it makes any sense.
That is what they are working towards, and that is
what Tom Homan and many people in Ice are trying
to fight back against. We love all of you, Thank
you for spending fifteen hours with us. I'll be back
with Buck on Monday, see all them
Welcome back in hour number three Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.
Appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we
are rolling through the.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Final hour of the week.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Fourteen hours up, fifteen hours underway, now the fifteenth hour
of the program, and I'm up in DC right now,
and I spent some time over at the White.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
House earlier today.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Got to talk with Tom Homan, who is implementing Donald
Trump's border policy, and certainly a news breaking day in
that arena. We talked a couple of hours ago this morning,
just next door to the White House in the old
Executive Office building. This is what it sounded like, And
(00:43):
it started with this first question for me, for Tom Homan,
how would he assess the first hundred days of the
work that they've been able to do so far, and
how well has it gone. This is what it sounded like.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
We're kicking ass I mean, look at the number. So,
I mean, in seven weeks we got border crossings down
over ninety percent, and right now is today we're down
ninety six percent. So based on the data, real data,
we have the most secure border in the history of
this nation today, which is a huge success. And and
other than just the numbers being down ninety six percent.
(01:20):
There's two other metrics I look at on the border
that extraordinary. Under Joe Biden, we averaged eighteen hundred gotaways
a day. Eighteen hundred known got aways, people we know
across the border. We got away because the border shows
too busy changing diapers, making baby form and so forth.
We went from eighteen hundred day to less than forty
forty forty two minutes. Yeah, we'll get them. We'll get
(01:42):
them too. And the other number is of those that
we apprehend every day. Under Joe Biden, we got over
eleven thousand day. Today's number was one hundred and seventy
eight eleven thousand to one hundred and seventy other The
third metric I looked at how many people have got
released from the border because President Trump ended catching release right.
(02:03):
So from inauguration day to April first, last year January twentieth,
April first last runner by they released one hundred and
eighty four thousand people illegal aliens into the United States.
Same time period on the Trump nine four of them
were mature witnesses we needed for criminal trial. Four was
(02:23):
extremely urgent medical needs that we couldn't we couldn't remove
got to take care of the medical needs right away,
and one was for a humanitarian reason. I think it
was some sort of organ transplant for a dyne child
one hundred and eighty four thousand to nine. So we
have the most secure border in history of this nation
right now.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Okay, so the border is secure is one of the
biggest allies we were ever told that Congress had to
act to secure the border.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
President Trump did in seven weeks with Joe Biden. Couldn't
have went doing four years, Like the President said, you
just need a new president. Right, So we already secured
the board at record levels during Trump forty five, and
we knew what we need to do to get it back.
Plus we're taking additional steps in addition what we did before. Again,
he achieved the most secure border in seven weeks, but
(03:12):
now it's a record achievement because we're even securing at
a higher level. Now. You know, President was able to
do this because of his out of box thinker. Right,
whether we remain in Mexico Program, Thursday Country Games, and
in country release, plus the consequences people now know if
you come to our border, you're not being released in
(03:33):
stays we'll hide out. So you can't have strong border
security if you don't have strong anterior enforcement and consequences.
So all this is plays in to a great success.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
How many people do you think are illegally in the
country right now? Twenty million?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
If there are twenty million? Two part build on that.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Do you think some people are now self deporting because
they're aware that there are content sequences for being here illegally?
Do you think that's a real thing that's happening, Yes,
you do. How significant do you think.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
GP one app I think we're if I remember cart,
we're over five thousand already. A lot of people are
just self reporting without going through the CPP home map,
the intelligence report showing caravan setting south, the Darien gad
which bare just thousand people going north. Now that now
people are going south. Let's not shut down. That's going south. Yeah,
(04:28):
people realize that there's no free right anymore. You're not
gonna be arrested at the border and released. You're going
to be either immediately returned, You're gonna be detained until
we return you. You're not walking away from the border.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Okay, So if if some people are starting to self deport,
obviously much of the media attention has been on the
intentional deportations that are occurring inside of the country. And
it seems to me, and you correct me if I'm wrong, here,
we had a policy where Joe Biden lets ten million
plus illegals in. You said, you think there's roughly twenty
million illegals in the country at best case scenario rates
(05:04):
right now, it would appear that we're deporting around three
hundred and fifty thousand people on average a year. It
seems like they have to past set up a policy
where as many people illegally basically as possible can come in,
and then they're trying to restrict clearly the ability to
send those people back out by throwing everything in front,
(05:24):
legal obstacles, everything else. Is that an accurate assessment?
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Absolutely? Picture, Absolutely is what they did. They played the long,
long term plan, right, they're playing the long game, and
they're pretty smart about it. You bring ten point five
million people into the country, you release the vast majority
into the country, and not an ice attention. Because they're
placing ice attention at one hundred and twenty seven dollars
a night for a bed. They get hearing within thirty
(05:50):
five days. Yeah, we know nine out of ten do
not qualify for asylum. They get immediately removed, and nine
out of ten that's the immigration court data from ten years.
So let's not put them an ice attention, get hearing
me in thirty five days and go home. Let's release
them and put them in a hotel room at five
hundred bucks a night, give them three meals a day,
give free medical care, give work authorization within nine and
(06:11):
twenty days. Exactly why they came here, not because it's solum,
but to get a better life. Iite, and I understand
that purposely overwhelmed the system. So they back the immigration
court up on personal purpose. So now it's going to
take three, five, seven years if you if you go
through all the peel process could be as high as
nine courts in New York City. They knew if they
(06:32):
overwhelmed the system, these people couldn't be returned right away
and maybe by the time that five years rolls wrong
with seven years rolls around them, they have a democratic
administration off some boom amnesty across the boats. So their
their long game is that's what they intend to do.
It's not by accident, isn't incompetence isn't you know, it's mismanagement.
(06:52):
This is by design. So what we're doing now, we're
trying to move people as question as possible. But now
you've got radical judges and district court. You got to
district court judge. Issue is a national injunction? Yes, district
how used to work district right, So that's where we're
taking us to the Supreme Court. District court judge shouldn't
have to should put a nationwide injunction outside of this district.
(07:14):
There's slow between sanctuary cities. UH judges, the radical judges
and and and the NGOs and people like aoc Is
says she's going to educate people as we're constitutional rights.
Don't open the door for eyes, don't talk to ice.
You and I both know her end game as they
made law enforcement. That's about the change real fast. I'm
not going to I'm not going to talk about it
(07:35):
right now, but the next two ways you're going to
see we're no longer going to we're no longer going
to accept that you're going to open the door. Well,
we're gonna prosecute you. We're done. So with all these
things working against us, we still got three times we
arrested three times more criminal ailiens and Joe Biden did
the entire year. We're accomplished that in two months. So
ICE is rocking and rolling. But we could do a
(07:57):
lot more if we didn't have these radical judges putting
national nationwide in junction house.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
You are constantly having to answer the accusation that you're
raiding schools, that you're raiding churches, that you're going after kids.
It's not true, But what do you want people to
hear directly from you on that accusation?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Sensitive location policy said ICE couldn't make arrest and sense
the location churches, schools, hospitals, daycare centers, and all this
other stuff. We were the only law federal law enforce
enforcement agency in the nation who had such a policy.
FPI I don't have that policy, DA don't have that policy.
ATF don't have that policy. So we did the way
(08:37):
the policy I could. We're signing a clear message significant
public safety threats or national security threats have no sanctuary.
For instance, we got an MS thirty team members have
senior in high school and we're looking for them. We
can't find them, but now we had information you're sit
in that classroom right now, significant public safety threat. We're
going to that school with local authorities. We will place
(08:57):
them und arrest. We're not going to sweep this score.
We're not going to ask every student aw school the nationality.
Same thing with the same thing with churches. We know
there's a national security connected with terrorism and he's attending mass.
We're going to go to the church. We wan't arrest
them now, we'll probably rest on his way out. We'll
send someone in watch make sure he leaves. But we're
(09:19):
going there's no sanctuary for criminals and that security threats,
and that's what the policy is about. You're not going
to see a school being sweeped or a church being
sweep learning of that stuff. It's just garbage. But the
left media puts that out and putting the fear in
the immigrant community to turn the tide against us. Right,
I promise the day one will be transparent American people.
We can't lose the faith and support American people. But
(09:40):
the left working real hard to send misinformation now, so
people say, Okay, maybe ICE is a radical group. I
read last night the Weies is compared to the Nazis,
for God's sakes, and you look at what they're doing.
They're concentrating public sates thrusts and NATA and security thrusting,
and the data clearly shows it. Every public safety threat
we arrest in depoor. This country's that much safer.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
When you see Democrats flying to El Salvador to make,
in theory the focal point of your deportation policy. A
alleged wife beater, a guy who was clearly adjudicated to
be here illegally, evidence a massive amount that he is
an MS thirteen gang member, and evidence out of Tennessee
(10:27):
that he may well have been engaged in human trafficking
because he was driving a human traffickers car and all
the people that were in that vehicle were let go
by Joe Biden's FBI.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Are you sometimes in disbelief.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
That this is the guy they decided to decide that
they need to go to war to defend.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Actually, I am, I mean, I knew, I said on
numerous radio shows after President Trump won, and we're waiting
to come back in I said day one, they're gonna
they're gonna vilify the men and women of Ice. They're
gonna vilify the men and women of the war. When
everybody in this administration who's going to enforce him our
grays law. I called day one, but I said, they're
going to capture a video first woman or child crying
(11:08):
and play it on a real over and over against Yeah.
I never thought for a moment they're going to support
an MS thirteen gang member designated terrorists that we removed
to his homeland. He's home. Yeah, and we did the
right thing. But I find it, you know, I'm shocked
every day and more want to go down there and
hug him. Just it's ridiculous. And while Mayn Hallen went
(11:28):
down there the day before he took went El Salvador.
There's an illegal alien that was charged with murder released
from custody. They ignored the ice detainer and released into
the street and we took custody back.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Wrong.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Rachel Morin was murdered in Maryland. How come he's not
beating with Angel moms and dads. I mean, he ought
to be fixed the sanctuary status of that state rather
than going to hugging on an MS thirteen terrorists. I
find it shocking, but you know, I hope they keep
doing it.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
How many hours day are you working right now? I
don't know I work how many hours do you sleep.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
When I leave? I can tell you this. Since January twentieth,
I think I've had total days off without working four.
I mean, even i'm home, I'm on my computer working
my security detail. I got the best security detail that
exists in these guys. They're also and there as a
(12:23):
lot of death threats against me and my family, and
I'm working these guys to death. I mean, they're working
seven days a week and it's a tough job. But
you know, it's just what we're doing for his start.
When I retired for the third time, I'm going to say, Okay,
I'm done.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Now what are you going to do when you retire?
Speaker 3 (12:44):
I'll probably keep raising hell as the Democrat administration comes
and tries to undo everything we did, I'm hoping Congress
fix that Congress and change a few laws to make
this permanent so every four years we don't have to
worry about another president coming in undoing it all.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
That's Tom Holman and going to let you guys react
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Take some of your calls here in the third hour
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Guy's got unbelievable energy set. Has only had four days
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Welcome back in play Travis buck Sexton show. My guy
who called in at the end of the hour and
wanted to talk about my position that Mayor Pete Will
has no chance of ever being the Democrat presidential nominee
(14:50):
because black guys in particular won't vote for a gay
white guy. People just want to talk about it. I
was ready to talk to him, and he bailed. He
told us, hey, I need more time. I'm I'll wait
and then I'm coming back from break and I say, okay.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Where's our guy? And he's bailed.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
So he maybe call back in at some point, maybe
we'll have the time for him. I did want to
play this though, that Tom Homan interview that you guys
just heard him up in DC. I interviewed him earlier
today and this is how the interview ended. He told
me that he had to leave, and I want you
to hear what he was doing in addition to everything else.
(15:29):
Listen from here, you are going to take a nine
year old make a wish kid where and with everything
that you've got going on right now, why is it
important to take the time to do that.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Because I'm a father and my worst nightmare is to
bury my child. I've held many dying children throughout my career.
On the border, I've found many dead children, and every
child I see the face of God and every child
I've ever met, I don't care who that child is.
(16:06):
So I was asked by a Capitol police officer who's
friends with his family, so anyway we can get him
into why hous and just to look at the residute death,
just to see where the boss sits. I'm doing it.
I think is the right thing to do. And as
a father, I just God best the family. I just
it's any parent's worst thing there. So I'll do whatever
(16:27):
I can to bring a smile to his face. But
it's just a sad story all the way wrong.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
I wanted to close with that because when we sat
down for the interview, he just said, Hey, I've got
to go, I've got fifteen minutes, and he told me
what he was going to be doing. But I think
it speaks to Tom Homan. The guy is working almost
every hour of every day to try to secure our
(16:54):
nation's borders and to try to get bad guys out
of this country. He's got a huge security detail because
I bet second or thirds probably to Trump and Elon Musk,
nobody is getting more personal threats against him and his
family than Tom Homan is right now. And yet he
still has the decency and humanity to be thinking even
(17:20):
amid all of those jobs, Hey, I'm gonna make the
time to take a kid into the Oval office who's
nine years old and has a severe, potentially deadly disease
that he and his family are dealing with. I mean,
I just think it's almost impossible not to love this
(17:42):
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be as committed to what he's doing as he is,
should be an inspiration to all of us. Donald Trump
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Welcome back in play Travis buck Sexton show, I'm up
in DC. You just heard my interview with Tom Homan
buck out for the last hour as he is racing
around with the new baby and family in town. We
started off the show though, a couple of hours ago,
talking about a judge in Milwaukee who was arrested for
(19:13):
violating the law indefinitely protecting, according to the accusations, someone
who was in the process of being deported by Ice,
and the exact details of what that judge in the
Milwaukee area had done had not been out Attorney General
Pam Bondi was just on Fox News explaining why that
(19:38):
arrest occurred and what the judge did.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
Listen to this rayer for victims to want to cooperate.
They wanted to cooperate. They were sitting in the courtroom
with the state prosecutor. The judge learns that Ice was
outside to get the guy because he had been deported
in twenty thirteen, came back in our country, commits these crimes.
Charged with committing these crimes. Victims in court. Judge finds out.
She goes out in the hallway, screams at the immigration officers.
(20:05):
She's furious, visibly shaken, upset, sends them off to talk
to the chief judge. She comes back in the courtroom
here can believe this, takes the defendant and the defense
attorney back in her chambers, takes them out of private
exit and tells them to leave while a state prosecutor
and victims of domestic violence are sitting in the courtroom.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
That is Attorney General Pam Bondi describing what she said
happened in a Milwaukee courtroom, and again to just unpack
what she said there there are witnesses that are prepared
to testify about the crimes that this illegal alien has committed.
There is an ICE agent who is aware that this
(20:48):
person should not be in the country and is prepared
to take this individual into custody.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
The judge is.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Furious, runs interference, sends the ICE agent to talk to
a chief judge in the courthouse, and then brings the
defense attorney and the illegal immigrant into her chambers and
sneaks them out the back exit so that ICE can't
take him into custody. Assuming that all of that is true,
(21:18):
which is exactly what Pambondy just laid out, it's pretty
jaw dropping that a judge would undertake that activity clearly
in contravention of the law. But a caller earlier asked
the question, and I think this is what Tom Holman
was suggesting to me in that interview when he said,
(21:42):
over the next couple of weeks, we're going to be
doing way more with people who are breaking federal immigration law.
A lot of different individuals out there have been arguing
that they will not enforce federal immigration law law. That's
the basis to a large extent of the sanctuary city dynamic.
(22:06):
There are a lot of mayors out there of big
American cities that have basically said we're not going to
cooperate with the federal government when it comes to trying
to deport illegals that are in our cities. That's the
entire concept of sanctuary cities. It's we're not going to
in any way coordinate with the federal government. Now a
(22:29):
little bit that can be a challenge because there's a
difference between sometimes coordination and obstruction. What is that fine
line between we're not going to participate and help you
and we're actually going to obstruct you from doing your job.
I would argue that when you are not cooperating, you
(22:52):
are in some way obstructing somebody from doing their job.
But certainly you're obstructing when you are a judge, and
according to Pambondi, you are opening the back door exit
of your chambers to allow someone who would have otherwise
gone into federal custody to avoid going into federal custody.
(23:13):
And it's going to take some of these individuals being
prosecuted in order for others to understand what the consequences
are for behavior such as this. We've got to talk
back Trent in Denver, Colorado. He's at Freedom ninety three seven.
(23:33):
By the way, thanks to our DC affiliate, I am
broadcasting from Freedom one oh four point seven. You can
listen to us here in the DC area. Here is
what Trent had to say reacting to the Tom Homan interview.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
Hey, Clay, love everything you guys do. I love the
interview with Tom Holman. The guy is truly a legend.
He's a true American hero. It's legendary what he's doing.
I wish they didn't have to come to this, but
you know, he's definitely the right guy for the job,
and you know, proud to be his fellow American.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
You know.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Another part of that interview, and I think the interview
will be up on video. You'll be able to see
it if you want to see the video from my
Twitter account here in a little bit. But I asked
him about his reaction to Joe Biden trying to claim
that the guys who were If you remember in the
early days of the Biden administration, there was a viral
(24:34):
photo of border patrol agents, one guy on a horse
trying to stop somebody from being able to cross illegally
into the country, and the Biden team compared those actions
to slavery. Even said that the reins on the horse
were basically being used to whip people, if you remember that.
And then they had an investigation and they found out, oh,
(24:57):
that's none of that's true. Actually, everything that this individual
and the Border Patrol was doing was completely appropriate. There's
a huge cadre of people out there, many of them
might be well listening to us right now, who went
into the job at Border Patrol designed to protect America's borders,
(25:19):
and over the four years of Joe Biden suddenly basically,
as Tom Holman said, became a glorified uber driver for
illegal immigrants. As we just waived ten point five million
people into this country. And Tom Holman's saying from a
political perspective, this is the long game that's clearly being
(25:43):
played by Democrats, and I think this is super important.
We have sealed the southern border, you heard Tom homand
the number of people that are actually getting into the
country now is very small. So for all intents and purposes,
our southern border is shut and people are even being
a to leave. They're actively deporting themselves. But what they
(26:05):
recognize is in order to get ten point five million
illegals out of this country. We would have to average
over the next four years deporting a little bit over
two point five million people a year. Right now, we're
on pace to deport three hundred and fifty thousand. That
(26:27):
means just to get all of the Joe Biden illegals
out at this pace, it would take roughly thirty years
of constant work. That's presuming there's no Democrat administrations. That's
presuming there are no changes in current immigration policy that
(26:49):
we have today, which I think it's fair for you
and me and everybody out there to acknowledge is highly unlikely.
It would take thirty years just to get out the
four years worth of illegals.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
That Joe Biden allowed to enter this country. That's pretty
wild to think about.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
And Democrats, trust me, have done that map, done that math,
and they understand that it is in their favor, and
it's why they are using the courts to try to
keep the deportation process so slow. And some of you
probably going to email me, because I get these emails.
You're going to say, well, Obama or Clinton or insert
(27:31):
George W. Bush, whichever president you want to cite, Well,
they deported millions of people. Why that's not an accurate
reflection of the numbers because they used to count as
a deportation someone who was not allowed to enter the country.
So everyone who was trying to come illegally when we
(27:51):
still had a border, they were counted as if they
had been deported when they weren't allowed to enter the country.
The manpower required to take two million plus people inside
of the country is substantial and get them out of
the country. And that's why the Trump team is trying
(28:14):
to be aggressive in the way that they apply immigration law,
because if they're not, then there's no way they can
get much more than a couple of one hundred thousand
people a year out of this country, which means long
range Democrats have won because they know that ultimately there's
(28:35):
never going to be a process in place to get
out all the people that we need to.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
All right, I'll take some of your calls.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
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Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. Buck already
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a lot of fun for him. And I wanted to
(30:28):
play a couple of reactions for you guys here as
we close up shop on the Friday edition of the program.
But I mentioned earlier, I've been a lot of you
watched yesterday up in Green Bay, Wisconsin, the NFL draft happened.
Thirty two first round picks, multimillionaires, all each and every
one of them, but Jamal Bowman. You might remember Jamal
(30:49):
Bowman who was the Democrat congressman from New York who
pulled a fire alarm, ended up having to plead guilty
to a misdemeanor if I remember correctly, over the fire
alarm pull and then lost his primary, his Democrat primary.
He was defeated. He yesterday, or maybe it was early
this morning, I guess, because I think it was in
(31:10):
the daylight this morning. He said, Hey, Shadoor Sanders, who
is Dion Sanders's son, He wasn't drafted, and the only
explanation for why he wasn't a first round pick, he's
a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Is racism?
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Yes, the NFL notorious for its unwillingness to play to
pay black players and play them as well. This is
a bad take, but it is what former Democrat Congressman
Jamal Bowman had to take away from the draft yesterday.
Speaker 7 (31:43):
Listen, it's the way Shadoor dresses, it's the way he
talks and his culture. In my opinion, you see him
at the draft last night. He's wearing all black, he
got the ill chain on, and he talks like a rapper.
(32:03):
And you know, I keep hearing, Oh, he's entitled. He
feels entitled. I don't know. It's like these white boys
that came before him don't feel entitled. Eli Manning, Arenchie Manning.
When they said he don't want to play for San Diego,
don't draft me. That's not entitlement. But that was acceptable,
That was okay. This is a black man, what means,
(32:28):
comes from a home with means and has extreme confidence
and is not submitting to y'all in your NFL culture
and the way y'all want to.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
So the new racism is if your dad's actually rich,
then teams are racist against you. Because you're already rich.
This is one of the dumbest arguments I've ever heard.
But it's the kind of argument you would expect from
a guy who pulled a fire emergency fire alarm and
(33:03):
then had to plead guilty to a misdemeanor over it
and then couldn't even win a Democrat primary. But I
did think that that was interesting in and of itself. Now,
there are several people who want to weigh in a
variety of different topics out there, and let me go
ahead and hear first from David in New Orleans. We're
(33:25):
talking with Tom Homan in the third hour about the
challenges associated with deporting as many people as possible, and
you've got to take what you got for.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Us, Yes, sir, I just it just occurred to me
listening to the recitation of the statistics of what it
takes to do the deportation of it, and how the
Democrats are dragging it out. Why isn't it just prudent
for the administration to just proceed a pace and just
(33:53):
swamp the system, because that's what the Democrats are trying
to do. Just got swamp the system with deportations and force. Uh,
you know, force the courts to completely resolve this by
forcing them to make a national stand on whether or
not the president has the authority to do it.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Thank you for the call. I think it's a smart
question to some extent. I think that's what's occurring. They're
looking for the courts to rule that the deportation process
from the president should be as permissible as the entry
of illegal immigrants was. And this is really the essence
of the dispute here, which is so significant. Joe Biden
(34:39):
was able to bring in ten point five million I
legal immigrants. The law allowed him to do that. The
law does not right now allow Donald Trump to deport
ten point five million people as easily as it allowed
them to come into the country. And so what Democrats
are doing is they are exploiting the incompatibility between the
(35:02):
law that allows them to come in and the law
that allows them to be sent out. And Tom Homan
I think nailed it when he said they're playing the
long game, because their gamble is there will not be
the political power wherewithal and also the legal ability to
get these people out once they get in. And the
(35:22):
alarming part here is all we've done is stop the
flow grants it. There's a few hundred thousand that are
going back out, but ninety five percent of the people
who came here illegally are still here the challenge. That
is unfortunate, But I think you have to be cognizant
of and aware of if there is another Democrat president elected,
(35:45):
he or she will do the same things that Joe
Biden did and what is now a stopped secure southern
border will then become wide open all over again, and
they'll flood in millions and millions of more people. And
what they want it to become is such a mess
(36:05):
in this country because there are so many illegals that
then at some point in time amnesty is given. And
when amnesty is given, Democrats are gambling that the people
who are given amnesty are overwhelmingly going to be more
likely to vote for them, which allows them to have
political power for generations and generations to come. That is
(36:29):
the game plan. Otherwise none of it makes any sense.
That is what they are working towards, and that is
what Tom Homan and many people in Ice are trying
to fight back against. We love all of you, Thank
you for spending fifteen hours with us. I'll be back
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