July 30, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show features a wide-ranging and high-energy discussion that blends political insight, cultural commentary, and listener engagement. The hour opens with an in-depth interview with Utah Senator Mike Lee of Utah, who addresses the growing Senate confirmation backlog under President Trump. Lee criticizes the procedural delays that have stalled over 150 judicial and U.S. attorney nominations, attributing the obstruction to Senate Democrats and entrenched deep state bureaucrats. He calls for aggressive action, including exhausting the Senate into compliance and reconsidering the use of recess appointments, which have been blocked by pro forma sessions.
The conversation transitions to the controversial blue slip rule, a Senate tradition allowing home-state senators to block judicial nominees. Senator Lee argues that Democrats are abusing this custom and warns that continued obstruction could lead to the loss of their blue slip privileges. He also comments on the explosive revelations from FBI Director Kash Patel, who uncovered hidden documents related to the Trump-Russia collusion investigation. Lee describes this as potentially the most significant political scandal in U.S. history and stresses the need for transparency and accountability.
Breaking economic news is also covered, with the Federal Reserve opting not to cut interest rates despite internal dissent. The hosts analyze the implications for inflation, mortgage rates, and the broader Trump economy.
Later in the hour, the show pivots to cultural issues with guest Tommy Lahren. The hosts and Lahren dissect the media backlash to a new American Eagle ad featuring actress Sydney Sweeney. They argue that the outrage—led by what they describe as “liberal white women”—reflects a broader cultural war in which traditional beauty and normalcy are under attack. Lahren asserts that the left has lost the culture war and is now lashing out, while Clay and Buck highlight how younger Americans are rejecting woke ideology in favor of common sense, health, and attractiveness.
The segment also explores the intersection of masculinity and politics, with the hosts humorously suggesting a correlation between low testosterone levels and left-wing political views. They critique the rise of “male feminists” and argue that modern liberalism alienates average American men. The discussion includes a viral ESPN controversy and a Good Morning America segment that allegedly equated traditional beauty standards with coded extremism.
Listener interaction adds a personal touch, including a call from a fan vacationing in Colorado who shares how the show has replaced music in her daily routine. The hosts also preview upcoming college football games, including Georgia vs. Tennessee and Georgia vs. Alabama, and invite listeners to join them at these events.
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, third hour Clay and Buck kicks off right now.
We're joined by Senator Mike Lee of the Great State
of Senator Lee, thanks for joining us on the fly, sir.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Appreciate you, Thank you very much. Can we just dive
into this?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Well, Clay, do we want to do judges and US
attorneys first?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
You want to do? We want to do the redistricting first?
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Because I got to ask you what is going on
here with the log jam on the judges and US
attorneys and what should we do about it?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Look, we've got a confirmation backlog in the Senate. President
Trump has sent one hundreds of nominees over We currently
have a Senate confirmation backlog of about one hundred and
fifty people now just day be four. Yesterday that number
stood at one hundred and forty four. We're now approaching
one hundred and fifty. We're adding to that basically every
(00:51):
day the Senate's in session. And if we leave for
August recess without meaningfully confronting this, then we're we are
going to catch up. And the result of that is
awful because here's what happens. Remember, the deep state bureaucrats,
the career civil servant bureaucrats are overwhelmingly leftist. They're overwhelmingly Democratic.
(01:14):
So this is different than if the Democrats were in
power and Republicans were delying them. When that happens and
a Democrat nominee doesn't get through, well they still have
a Democrat liberal Democrat in most cases running to show
at whatever executive branch agency they're putting them in, because
that's what the deep state bureaucrats are. But when it's Republicans,
we're surrendering to the other party. We can't let that happen.
(01:36):
Here's the thing. We've been blaming the dams in appropriately,
so they've been delaying. But we have to remember this
is what minority parties have been doing in the Senate
more or less since Harry renukes the Executive Philip Busher
back in November of twenty thirteen. This is what they
do now. Democrats do it to a more severe degree.
We cooperated more with them than they are with us.
(01:57):
But regardless, saying that they're doing it worse doesn't fix
the problem. There is only one thing that fixes this
problem in the modern summit, in the modern Senate, which
is the principle of exhaustion. We have to exhaust them
into compliance. We have to keep them here until such
some as we've cleared the backlog, and we have to
make them vote, including it inconvenient times and hours and weeks.
(02:19):
Wouldn't it much rather be somewhere else? That is the
only way to fix it. We keep them here, keep
them voting, we end the backlog. If we don't, we
surrender to the deep date.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
And therefore the Democrats, by the way, let me mention this.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
The Fed, as we told you was likely going to
be the case, has declined to lower interest rates, although
there are dissenters from inside of the FED saying, hey,
we should be cutting rates. So just fyi, they have
left interest rates unchanged. But that is the That is
the literally breaking news as we start the third hour
(02:55):
of the program here. Okay, sender, thanks for coming on.
What is in your mind the solution? Because I was
asking about how recess appointments might be applied. President Trump
has not used the recess appointment opportunity. What are the
disadvantages associated with doing that in a way that people
like me can understand without going into all of the
(03:20):
just sort of the labyrinth of all of the different
Senate parliamentarian aspects.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Yep, all right.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
So the biggest single disadvantage is that a recess appointment
can't stay indefinitely under the Constitution. The recess appointee can
remain in there in essence. On the current interpretations of
that clause, they can stay in there. If they are
recess appointed now, they could stay in there till the
end of next year, till the end of twenty twenty six.
(03:47):
It's the biggest disadvantage. But the other reason why President
Trump hasn't used that is that more or less for
the last decade plus, since at least around twenty thirteen,
it's started a big Before then, the Senate typically has
been holding what are called pro forma sessions even while
for puting to go into recess I mean reconvening every
(04:07):
three days one member comes in, gabbles in, gabbles out,
in order to avoid the technicality of going into recess
for constitutional purposes. In other words, these pro forma sessions
basically serve one purpose, which is to prevent the President
of the United States from making recess appointments. So that's
the biggest disadvantage bears that we haven't made it possible,
(04:28):
and that's why I've been saying. The best thing for
us to do, the only way I believe we're going
to end the lodge am at the impass, is for
us to make the Democrats and Republicans stay here and
cast votes even when, especially when it's difficult or inconvenient,
or members would rather be somewhere else. It's the only
surefire way to end this. Now, sure that if the
(04:48):
Senate unwikely decides to recess anyway, then for the love
of Pete, we should actually recess and stop holding these
pro forma sessions that have as their principal function preventing
the President of the United States from exercising the recess
appointment power under the Constitution.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
It feels like there's a lot of games going on here,
Senator Lee, within these rules, and yet the.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Blue slip rule is sacred.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Can you give me a little more on this one,
because Trump obviously thinks that enough is enough with the
blue slip nonsense.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Yeah, I think that's right now to bring your audience
up to speak. The blue slip in the Senate basically
does the following for correlated The way it works is
that for a federal district judge, a federal trial court
level judge for a US attorney or US marshal in
somebody state. The Senate Judiciary Committee has long refused to
(05:40):
process a presidential nominee in lesser until such time as
the two home state senators have signed a document that
is historically written out on blue paper. That's what we
call it the blue slip, saying I'm okay with these nominees. Now,
the blue slip has around, been around for many decades.
It is not mandated by statute, it's not imposed by rule.
Is a custom. It is moreover, not something that's been
(06:03):
carved into stone tablets. It is not an axurable command,
and it has been modified in practice over many years,
meaning when one side of the aisle abuses it consistently,
it often morphs in order to accommodate them. Now, we've
always had the understanding that if you push it too far,
(06:25):
like any other privilege, it'll be taken away. I had
the understanding and the last administration, for example, when dealing
with the Obama administration, I knew that I had to
make recommendations to them on district judges, US attorneys, US marshals,
and so forth. I had to make my blue slip
recommendations to them realistically, and that I wasn't necessarily going
(06:49):
to get it away with recommending people who were lifelong,
well known, staunch, openly conservative textualist originalists. For we just
understood that the nominees might be a little bit different
than what we would pick, what we would prefer the
(07:09):
president pick during a Republican administration. If the Democrats can't
accept that, and they consistently refuse to accommodate what are
Trump's reasonable minimum expectations in their states, then I suspect
that they can, should, and probably will lose their blue
slip privileges in many instances.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
We're talking to Senator Mike Lee of Utah. New revelations potentially,
according to Fox News, about documents involving Russia collusion that
have been found by cash Pttel inside of FBI offices
that were supposed to have been destroyed, that were not you.
I think were one of the top contenders to be
(07:50):
Attorney General. So you are very very well versed in
the Department of Justice. You have served, I believe as
a judge in your past life, as you're a guy
who's been involved in a lot of these things. What
should happen as it pertains to Russia collusion based on
the evidence you have seen, not only what should what
(08:11):
do you think will what should our audience expect to see,
and what should they see in your mind, but.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Most importantly, the facts, the information will need to continue
to come out. Remember, for the last eight nine years,
we've been told a consistent lie. We've been told that
by the Democratic apparatus. We've been told that by the
mainstream media, also known as the communications arm of the
(08:38):
Democratic Party. We've been told lies about Russian collusion. Now,
as Jonathan Turley noted on Fox News the other day,
there was in fact a collusive scandal at the close
of twenty sixteen related to Russia. But it just wasn't
at all what we were told. There was a scandal there,
there was collusion there. But remember what happened here was
(09:01):
that President Obama, according to these recent revelations, went in
after the November twenty sixteen election, after President Trump had
been elected President of the United States and directed the
United States government officials in the room with him to
go out and show to find evidence, develop evidence, manufacture evidence,
(09:24):
manipulate evidence, however you want to put it to demonstrate
not if not whether, but how Russia impacted the outcome
of the election and did so in Donald Trump's favor
that simply wasn't true, and in fact, they were messing
with evidence. This is a horrific scandal, and based on
what we've learned about this already, this is arguably the
(09:47):
most significant political scandal in US history. And I'm not
even sure what the outcome will be because we don't
have anything else to compare it to. But the most
important part of it. There are all kinds of considerations,
from statutes of limitations to whatever it takes to get
more information out of this that will have to be
taken into account to know exactly who may be charged.
(10:11):
But the most important thing is that the American people
learn about it, and then we get to the bottom
of who knew what and when and hold on accountable
for that.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Centerarly, we know you have to get out on the
floor and get to work. We appreciate you fitness in
to answer these questions we were talking about today. Keep
up the good work and shoot me a text when
you want to come on again. Need to talk to
the audience.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Well due, Thanks so much.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
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Guys on this Sunday Hang podcast with Clay and Fuck.
Find it in their podcast feed on the iHeartRadio app
or wherever you get your podcast. Welcome back in Clay Travis,
The Buck Sexton Show. Oh goodness, a lot of you
out there reacting to a variety of different stories that
we are chasing. Tommy larn from Fox News and OutKick
(12:22):
is going to join us at the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Right now.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Becky is on vacation in Colorado, but she lives in
Texas and she's finding us wherever she goes across the country. Becky,
we appreciate you listening. How's the vacation going.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
Hey, it's great. We have a cabinet pier and we're
just enjoying enjoying Colorado for the summer to get away
from the Galla stick feet.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Yeah, a lot of y'all Texans flee the weather there
in Colorado and Texas. That's a big overlap Utah too.
We were just talking with Mike Lee with a lot
of Texans, but you said, you're chasing us everywhere the show.
You can find us anywhere, right, and we love it.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
I was going to call say I had a big
bone to fit with y'all because we used to listen
to music in our car and you know, we're big
Beatle fans and everything. We're like rock. But here in Colorado,
whenever we're in the car, we're just so. We listened
to your entire show the hotel rre in the car.
We don't even listen to music anymore. What what has happened?
(13:22):
This is how great your show is.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Well, that's very kind, it's amazing. I'll borrow from the
lead singer of Oasis. We're better than the Beagles. Well,
like I got all that attach.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
You care say that? No, no, no. My husband actually
from the UK and we're huge Beetle fans. We usually
go to the Beetle Fast and stuff in Liverpool.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
I want to gootiate. Thank you for the call.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
By the way, you're in Galveston, are you at Texas
or are you a Texas A and M family?
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Who is the team?
Speaker 5 (13:50):
Uh, Texas A and N because both of our grandkids
go to Texas A and M.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
It's a great place. Thank you for the call.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
College station has blown ups super fantastic compared even in
the last fifteen years for my trips down there to
watch games. It's a pretty great play.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Which college football game am I tagging along to this fall?
By the way, this is the big deal? Which one
do you bring? The buckster two? Because that obviously is
the biggest.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Should showing yeah, you should come potentially you haven't been
to Knoxville yet. September thirteenth is Georgia at Tennessee. Lisa Booth,
who was a part of the Clay and Buck podcast network,
went to the University of Tennessee and she is bringing
her boyfriend who has never been to I believe an
SEC football game before, so he's coming in for that game.
(14:37):
So we would already have a kind of a fun
crew coming in again. Lisa went to UT, the real UT,
not the one down in Texas, the one in Tennessee,
and so so she's gonna be there. You can come.
September thirteenth, the biggest game in the SEC. I would
project this fall coming up. Looking at the preseason, I'm
also going to be at this one. Georgia hosting Alabama
(15:01):
on September twenty seventh in Athens. Have you ever been
to Athens?
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I have not been to Athens. I've been to Athens, Greece.
I've not been to Athens, Georgia. Well, that is a
very buck That was a very buck moment. I just
realized there. Sorry, yes, no, I haven't been to Athens, Georgia.
I've been to Athens, Grease. I haven't been to Greece.
I have been to Athens, Georgia.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
And Athens is pretty fabulous, one of the great college
towns in America. So you could also put that potentially
on the radar. Now, that'll be a super tough ticket.
I think Georgia Tennessee will be a little bit easier
because Tennessee hasn't been Georgia in a long time. We
got a bunch of talkbacks too. Let me scroll into
the talkback universe. Also, a lot of you, thank you
(15:42):
have managed to find the fat Clay and Buck photo
with Tommy Laren after we mentioned it, and it has
now blown up my timeline, and I just have to say,
that's a Brooks Brothers polo that I'm in. I burned
all of these polos after I look like I weigh
two hundred and fifty pounds in this photo.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I might be pregnant. You do you?
Speaker 1 (16:02):
You look like you have a a about a forty
eight inch waist on that one, and I look like
I'm rocking about a b cup or a sea cup
in the photo.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
It is not a good photo, which neither of us
Clay is not.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
I neither have man boobs, nor does Clay have a
forty eight inch or a fifty eight inch or an
one hundred inch waist whatever it is.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Yeah, I don't even understand how Brooks Brothers. I think
is that polo that I burned? Why did they even
design a shirt that looks like it could also double
as a tent? And why did I wear this?
Speaker 2 (16:35):
And no one ever told me that I looked alike?
You know, you got to take it.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
I think you just got to take the heat on
this one with the angle. I don't think you can
throw Brooks Brothers under the bus on this one.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
I don't think that that's that's gonna help help with that.
I don't think anybody would look good in this shirt.
I don't know what people are thinking, but let me.
I don't know what anybody's thinking.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Let me even walk out in this thing.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
By the way. Uh, let's see. Hold on, we got
a bunch of talkbacks. Oh you want to do your
friend from Worcester here, Clay, Look what you've done.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Look what you've done.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Yeah, let's listen Brian and Wooster ninety four nine and
news Radio five eighty up there.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Uh, he's calling bs on an earlier talker.
Speaker 7 (17:13):
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Speaker 4 (17:26):
I'm gonna have to throw a flag on Brian from
Wooster and just say go to Las Vegas, especially during
the NCAA tournament when it is ninety five percent mail,
there are a lot of Asian strippers in that town.
I don't know about Worcester that it wouldn't shock me
if Wooster this sounds. I wouldn't think that it's necessarily
an Asian hamlet strong suit. Maybe it is, I don't know,
(17:47):
but I will just remind everybody the word of the
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Speaker 2 (18:56):
Welcome back, everybody.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
We've got Tommy larn with us now of five News
and outkicked and Tommy, let's just get right to it.
Are you surprised or is this right in line with
expectations to see the absolute freak out across the media
when it comes to a new ad with Sydney Sweeney
for eight for Genes or for a clothing company American Eagle.
Speaker 8 (19:21):
I'm not surprised at all at the outrage in the backlash.
This is what the left does when they know they've lost,
all right, they've lost the culture war. Woke is dead,
and they are lashing out, and the charge is being
led by objectively mediocre to less attractive liberal white women.
And that usually seems to be the case for all
the things that they complain about. It's led by liberal
(19:44):
white women. But especially when you have a hot girl
in an ad that really brings out the fangs, that
brings out the clause. I'm not surprised at all.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Okay, I am stunned, honestly, Like I get because we
hear so much about democrats that's recognizing that they have
lost men. I would say that overwhelmingly, the one thing
that unites men is an appreciation for pretty girls heterosexual
men anyway, which I understand there may not be very
many in the Democrat Party already. But if you're trying
(20:15):
to just be normal and just be saying, complaining that
an attractive person is used to sell clothes and trying
to say it's like being a Nazi is next level
crazy even for them. So you expected that when you
saw this Sydney sweeneyad, you were like, oh, left wingers
are going to lose their mind, Tommy. The Atlantic has
(20:36):
an article saying liking boobs is now conservative. This is
a legitimate article that is up in that magazine.
Speaker 8 (20:45):
We may never lose an election again at this rate,
which is fine if they want to freak out over it.
But no, I'm not surprised at all because the left
of the Democrat Party has been completely captured by the
activists and the woke class. They won't give a need
these things up. They still go hard for kil mar
Abrego Garcia, They go hard for men and women's sports.
(21:05):
There is not a dumb hill that they will not
continue to die on. They love this kind of stuff.
I don't know who they're listening to. They're not listening
to you guys. They're not listening to young men or
even attractive young women. They're completely captured by the green
hairs with gauges and septum piercings. That's who they think
makes up the majority of this country, and they want
(21:26):
to make them happy at all costs.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Tommy.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
You know, whenever I do a live event, if a
woman under thirty five approaches to take a photo or
to say hi or something, generally she says do you
know Tommy larn and gets very excited when I say yes,
So you certainly have. You certainly have your finger on
the pulse of the conservative youth in this country. And
I'm wondering the vibe shift, as they would say, in
(21:50):
the culture. Where are the biggest places you are seeing it?
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Like?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
What are the things that you're seeing now that give
you hope that the opposite of what we see with
the Sydney Sweeney phenomenon is really taking root, that essentially
that insanity is fading and culture is coming back in
a way that we can all be proud of.
Speaker 8 (22:10):
Well, normalcy is coming back. People have realized, especially young people,
they've realized that no, they do want to be attractive,
and they do want to be healthy, and they want
to be normal and they want to interact with people.
Things go in cycles, of course, and it's not just
fashion and style. But I will say the fashion in
the style right now is kind of going back to
the early two thousands. That's what's popular with gen Z.
(22:31):
They're resurrecting all the old clothes that I wore when
I was in the fifth grade, and they think that's new.
And that's fine with me because so has the normalcy.
It's like, yes, no, we want to look good, No,
we want to be normal, we want to talk to people.
We don't want to have the color of hair of
a green poison frog. We just want to be normal.
So I think that you're still going to have the
(22:52):
minority that's very loud out there, and then of course
on TikTok and voting for socialists. But those people live
in deep blue cities like York City or Los Angeles.
They don't live in Tennessee, they don't live in Miami.
There are normal people in those normal places, and I
think they're taking over.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Okay, A secondary part of this is the idea. And
I know you saw the Good Morning America report, so
this is not some crazy left wing report in theory. Right,
you're sitting most people eating their cereal watching Good Morning
America today show. Good Morning America has on a report
that this is code for Nazism because you have a
(23:31):
blonde hair, blue eyed woman that is in this ad.
How do we and I do think this is significant
because I think you kind of have hammered this. How
do we get back to treating all races equally and
not being able to just say basically, white people are evil,
which is the code of calling anything white related Nazi
(23:54):
in relation?
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Right, what's going on here?
Speaker 8 (23:58):
Well, first of all, you need to stop apology for
being white. And so the more that people say, hey, listen,
I'm not going to apologize to you because of the
color of my skin. I don't expect you.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
To do that.
Speaker 8 (24:07):
I'm not going to do that, then we go back
to some level of normalcy.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Hair.
Speaker 8 (24:11):
But that Good Morning America clip they had on an expert,
of course, a professor, and I know you saw it,
Clay because you tweeted it out. But the professor that
they had on ironically was a white woman who had
blonde hair, but there was an X factor. She was
also objective, objectively not attractive. So there you have it.
That is what who that is who is driving this primarily,
(24:33):
and then all the other people who maybe are not
white liberal women that are upset, they were told to
be upset by ugly white liberal women and that who
is who is leading this And it comes from a
place of jealousy. It comes from a place of deep
insecurity that they have to project and then they have
to call it like academics or the study of history.
(24:54):
But really it's self loathing. That's what it is.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Tommy.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Everybody can find you on Fox News on all the time,
but digital side, where can they go to see your show?
Speaker 8 (25:04):
Oukick dot com Live Monday through Friday, one pm Eastern.
And in a few minutes here I'm gonna pop on
the story on Fox News. We're going to talk about
Mom Donnie. So never at the moment, thank you guys.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
For having Tommy.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Yeah, of course, thanks Tommy. The commie mom Donnie trying
to ruin my hometown. Thanks Tommy. Uh, you know, Clay,
it is it is remarkable that at this stage of
the game, the corrective mechanisms that I thought were rusty, uh,
maybe malfunctioning, but still somewhat present within the Democrat machinery.
(25:39):
They don't seem it's not working. They're they're going crazier
in areas where it's costing them politically. That's the Usually
what they do is they're insane, but they hide it
and they pretend and they prevaricate, and they do this
halfway thing, right That was Joe Biden's whole game.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Oh I'm good, old Joe, the tuo choo.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Writing, you know, you can trust me, and then he
would just let far left wing governance, you know, the
auto pen everything else. Democrats are doing crazy stuff right now.
Like a normal, well adjusted person sees how they're responding
to the Sydney sweeneyad and thinks Democrats are neither normal
nor well adjusted.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Well, and I think this is the challenge, and Tommy
kind of hit on this in general. But if you
are trying to appeal to men, and this is I
understand some of you are super in the weeds on
policy related issues, and we have some of those conversations.
We just had Senator Mike Leon to talk about why
there's a logjam in the Senate with one hundred and
(26:39):
thirty five different nominees going forward. Most people have no
idea that's going on right. Most people don't understand how
Senate confirmation works. They don't understand how a judge gets appointed.
They're just normal. And that's why I think that Good
Morning America segment is important because you're, you know, mom
and dad trying to get the kid ready for camp
(27:01):
or kid ready for school or whatever it is. PLoP
them down in front of it. You're eating cereal, you're
rushing through the morning, and suddenly you see a pretty
girl in an ad for a jeens company, and you
have an expert on saying it it is coding Nazism.
I mean, we've got a story up at out kick
right now. One of ESPN's employees said, and I want
(27:21):
to make sure I get this quote right because I
couldn't quite believe that this was even real. This is
somebody who talks about sports for a living. Buck, an
ESPN writer said, The New Sydney Sweeney American Eagle ad
left him mortified. You work in sports and you go
on social media and say because a girl, attractive girl
(27:45):
in jeans left you mortified. The Atlantic says that Americans
liking boobs is now trending.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Conservative people are gonna think I'm kidding. I'm not kidding, Okay.
I think if you did a macro level study of
male politics in America, you would find it's not this is,
you know, a generalization, this is about the average. I
think you would find that men of deficient and medically
(28:16):
low testosterone overwhelmingly are far left wing in their politics.
I think you've seen. I think it is absolutely, I
think it is real. I think somebody should do the study.
I'm not kidding. I think if you're you know, it
depends on what your age level is, right, But if
you're a guy in your in your like thirties forties,
and then you can get into like nanogram per deca
leader and all this stuff. You know, if your number
(28:37):
is like below three hundred, you're voting Democrat. You're absolutely
voting Democrat.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
And look, I mean age can factor in because obviously,
if you're listening to us in you're eighty, naturally you're
very different. But I'm saying, if you're a guy thirty
to fifty, you have a medically deficient or close to
a testosterone level and left wing politics.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
There's a very clear correlation I think you'd find.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
And this is where for what I do. I feel
like I can sit down and talk to any guy
in America and they may not agree with me on
tax policy, they may not agree with me on judicial nominees,
but we can connect on sports. We can connect on
having an appreciation for attractive women, sometimes enjoining it, enjoying
(29:19):
an adult beverage. Democrats have lost the ability to talk
to these people. And I don't know if you saw
this Eric Swalwell, you know he put up the video.
They're trying to do gem ads and show themselves doing things.
He challenged Greg Guttfeld to a bench press contest and
said if Gutfeld beats him that he will withdraw from Congress.
(29:40):
I just took the bet. I said, I will no
longer do Fox News. If Eric Swalwell can out bench
press me, I will stop doing Fox News, hits an alternative.
If I out bench press him, he has to drop
out of Congress. Do you think he will take my bet?
I bet not. But I I think this is a
(30:02):
cultural issue, and again the politics being downstream from cultures.
One hundred percent, right, guys, now use being a Democrat
as an insult. They basically say, oh, you're you're a Democrat.
You voted for Kamala. Younger men, that is one of
the top insults you could be. When we were at
that game between Georgia and Alabama last year at the
(30:24):
Alabama frat houses, they had banners hanging outside saying Georgia
fans vote for Kamala. Like this is how much of
an insult for young men even being a Democrat is.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
This reminds me of when I was when I was
single in New York City and would come across women
who worked in the performing arts. Dancers, not that kind
of dancer Clay, but you know, they would do things
like Broadway and they're Broadway is maybe the most left
wing thing in existence. I mean Broadway is They're more
left wing than the Marxist professors at like Berkeley.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
I mean, it's just crazy town.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
But they would sometimes He's women that I would come across,
maybe on dates, would complain about men in the city,
and it's because they were searching for men who basically
act like women. And then they wonder why they're so
unhappy the you know, the so called male feminist you
know who announces this on the first date. That's actually
not that. This goes against our biology as a human species.
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It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
And also women, women just know this is true. If
a man claims to be a feminist, run from him
in the opposite direction as fast as you can. First
of all, they almost never believe it. Secondly, they think
the only way they can get you is by claiming
to be male feminists. I'm telling you run in the
(31:46):
opposite direction from these people. You cannot trust them. I
think a lot of women out there know exactly what
I'm talking about. That is pro If that is one
of your leads. When you go to a date, guy
sits down like, oh, I'm a male feminist, just be
like check and leave it with him and get up
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of fun rolling in on a variety of different perspectives.
All right, let's see, let's take some of your talkbacks.
Ali says that Rush would have loved the controversy surrounding
Sydney Sweeney because one of his undeniable truths, feminism was
(33:49):
established so to allow unattractive women access to the mainstream
of society. Boom and I think he would have loved
all of this chaos. Certainly would have loved the Trump
election and everything that's followed the last six months. Bill
in New Jersey to be fair, Buck and eye worst
photo ever. It is now circulating again thanks to me
(34:11):
bringing it up with Tommy Larin. Nobody notices the pretty
girl between us. They just noticed the fat slobs on
either side of her.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Bill.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Thanks for having our back, w R listener.
Speaker 9 (34:20):
Ee Clay Buck Bill in New Jersey, Come on, fellas,
you know a picture ads ten pounds.
Speaker 5 (34:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
I think he's having some fun. I think I'm okay
with ten pounds.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
I look like I added one hundred and fifty pounds
in this photo. I think again, humbly.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Honestly, it's to be fair, Clay. You look like you
could be wearing a loincloth with a man bun trying
to shove another large man out of a circular ring.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
That is true, I could be carrying quadruplets based on
that picture. Chris in Tampa, Florida FF News Radio w FLA,
what you got for us?
Speaker 10 (35:01):
Has anybody picked up on the fact that they might
have been making fun of Sydney in that head that
she didn't know how to spell jeans? You know, one
of them dumb blonde jokes.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
No, no, sorry, no, we love your buddy, but no,
that's that's it.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
I don't think I don't think that that subtlety escaped.
They picked up really pretty girl to sell gear. They
made a pun between jeans and jeans. I don't even
the whole idea that people don't talk about good jeens
g e n e s.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Everybody, like everybody.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
Who has children, says, oh, you got grandma's blue eyes,
you got your dad sense of humor, hopefully you got
your mom's looks. I mean, this is very basic stuff,
and nobody, when you talk about it, says, oh, my goodness,
this is eugenics, this is Nazism. You tend to look
somewhat like your mom and somewhat like your dad.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
That's how their analogy works.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
This is a broader philosophical discussion which we can't have
in about forty seconds before the show ends. But the
leftist mindset is that the state can make us all
exactly the same, right, it's that sameness and collectivist. And
so the reality of biology and genetics is bothersome through
the left because we don't all have the same game.
(36:22):
Some of us are better looking than others, some of
us are taller than others, some of us are smarter
than others, and a lot of that is at birth,
a lot of it, especially the tallest thing.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
And look at Jesse Kelly.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
You think he's you think he's seven foot four because
he's such a great guy.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
He won the genetics lottery on that.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
And also, by the way, to your point, this is
all about dragging everybody down to mediocrity instead of big
embracing excellence and the meritocracy.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
More on this tomorrow
All right, third hour Clay and Buck kicks off right now.
We're joined by Senator Mike Lee of the Great State
of Senator Lee, thanks for joining us on the fly, sir.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Appreciate you, Thank you very much. Can we just dive
into this?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Well, Clay, do we want to do judges and US
attorneys first?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
You want to do? We want to do the redistricting first?
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Because I got to ask you what is going on
here with the log jam on the judges and US
attorneys and what should we do about it?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Look, we've got a confirmation backlog in the Senate. President
Trump has sent one hundreds of nominees over We currently
have a Senate confirmation backlog of about one hundred and
fifty people now just day be four. Yesterday that number
stood at one hundred and forty four. We're now approaching
one hundred and fifty. We're adding to that basically every
(00:51):
day the Senate's in session. And if we leave for
August recess without meaningfully confronting this, then we're we are
going to catch up. And the result of that is
awful because here's what happens. Remember, the deep state bureaucrats,
the career civil servant bureaucrats are overwhelmingly leftist. They're overwhelmingly Democratic.
(01:14):
So this is different than if the Democrats were in
power and Republicans were delying them. When that happens and
a Democrat nominee doesn't get through, well they still have
a Democrat liberal Democrat in most cases running to show
at whatever executive branch agency they're putting them in, because
that's what the deep state bureaucrats are. But when it's Republicans,
we're surrendering to the other party. We can't let that happen.
(01:36):
Here's the thing. We've been blaming the dams in appropriately,
so they've been delaying. But we have to remember this
is what minority parties have been doing in the Senate
more or less since Harry renukes the Executive Philip Busher
back in November of twenty thirteen. This is what they
do now. Democrats do it to a more severe degree.
We cooperated more with them than they are with us.
(01:57):
But regardless, saying that they're doing it worse doesn't fix
the problem. There is only one thing that fixes this
problem in the modern summit, in the modern Senate, which
is the principle of exhaustion. We have to exhaust them
into compliance. We have to keep them here until such
some as we've cleared the backlog, and we have to
make them vote, including it inconvenient times and hours and weeks.
(02:19):
Wouldn't it much rather be somewhere else? That is the
only way to fix it. We keep them here, keep
them voting, we end the backlog. If we don't, we
surrender to the deep date.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
And therefore the Democrats, by the way, let me mention this.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
The Fed, as we told you was likely going to
be the case, has declined to lower interest rates, although
there are dissenters from inside of the FED saying, hey,
we should be cutting rates. So just fyi, they have
left interest rates unchanged. But that is the That is
the literally breaking news as we start the third hour
(02:55):
of the program here. Okay, sender, thanks for coming on.
What is in your mind the solution? Because I was
asking about how recess appointments might be applied. President Trump
has not used the recess appointment opportunity. What are the
disadvantages associated with doing that in a way that people
like me can understand without going into all of the
(03:20):
just sort of the labyrinth of all of the different
Senate parliamentarian aspects.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Yep, all right.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
So the biggest single disadvantage is that a recess appointment
can't stay indefinitely under the Constitution. The recess appointee can
remain in there in essence. On the current interpretations of
that clause, they can stay in there. If they are
recess appointed now, they could stay in there till the
end of next year, till the end of twenty twenty six.
(03:47):
It's the biggest disadvantage. But the other reason why President
Trump hasn't used that is that more or less for
the last decade plus, since at least around twenty thirteen,
it's started a big Before then, the Senate typically has
been holding what are called pro forma sessions even while
for puting to go into recess I mean reconvening every
(04:07):
three days one member comes in, gabbles in, gabbles out,
in order to avoid the technicality of going into recess
for constitutional purposes. In other words, these pro forma sessions
basically serve one purpose, which is to prevent the President
of the United States from making recess appointments. So that's
the biggest disadvantage bears that we haven't made it possible,
(04:28):
and that's why I've been saying. The best thing for
us to do, the only way I believe we're going
to end the lodge am at the impass, is for
us to make the Democrats and Republicans stay here and
cast votes even when, especially when it's difficult or inconvenient,
or members would rather be somewhere else. It's the only
surefire way to end this. Now, sure that if the
(04:48):
Senate unwikely decides to recess anyway, then for the love
of Pete, we should actually recess and stop holding these
pro forma sessions that have as their principal function preventing
the President of the United States from exercising the recess
appointment power under the Constitution.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
It feels like there's a lot of games going on here,
Senator Lee, within these rules, and yet the.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Blue slip rule is sacred.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Can you give me a little more on this one,
because Trump obviously thinks that enough is enough with the
blue slip nonsense.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Yeah, I think that's right now to bring your audience
up to speak. The blue slip in the Senate basically
does the following for correlated The way it works is
that for a federal district judge, a federal trial court
level judge for a US attorney or US marshal in
somebody state. The Senate Judiciary Committee has long refused to
(05:40):
process a presidential nominee in lesser until such time as
the two home state senators have signed a document that
is historically written out on blue paper. That's what we
call it the blue slip, saying I'm okay with these nominees. Now,
the blue slip has around, been around for many decades.
It is not mandated by statute, it's not imposed by rule.
Is a custom. It is moreover, not something that's been
(06:03):
carved into stone tablets. It is not an axurable command,
and it has been modified in practice over many years,
meaning when one side of the aisle abuses it consistently,
it often morphs in order to accommodate them. Now, we've
always had the understanding that if you push it too far,
(06:25):
like any other privilege, it'll be taken away. I had
the understanding and the last administration, for example, when dealing
with the Obama administration, I knew that I had to
make recommendations to them on district judges, US attorneys, US marshals,
and so forth. I had to make my blue slip
recommendations to them realistically, and that I wasn't necessarily going
(06:49):
to get it away with recommending people who were lifelong,
well known, staunch, openly conservative textualist originalists. For we just
understood that the nominees might be a little bit different
than what we would pick, what we would prefer the
(07:09):
president pick during a Republican administration. If the Democrats can't
accept that, and they consistently refuse to accommodate what are
Trump's reasonable minimum expectations in their states, then I suspect
that they can, should, and probably will lose their blue
slip privileges in many instances.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
We're talking to Senator Mike Lee of Utah. New revelations potentially,
according to Fox News, about documents involving Russia collusion that
have been found by cash Pttel inside of FBI offices
that were supposed to have been destroyed, that were not you.
I think were one of the top contenders to be
(07:50):
Attorney General. So you are very very well versed in
the Department of Justice. You have served, I believe as
a judge in your past life, as you're a guy
who's been involved in a lot of these things. What
should happen as it pertains to Russia collusion based on
the evidence you have seen, not only what should what
(08:11):
do you think will what should our audience expect to see,
and what should they see in your mind, but.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Most importantly, the facts, the information will need to continue
to come out. Remember, for the last eight nine years,
we've been told a consistent lie. We've been told that
by the Democratic apparatus. We've been told that by the
mainstream media, also known as the communications arm of the
(08:38):
Democratic Party. We've been told lies about Russian collusion. Now,
as Jonathan Turley noted on Fox News the other day,
there was in fact a collusive scandal at the close
of twenty sixteen related to Russia. But it just wasn't
at all what we were told. There was a scandal there,
there was collusion there. But remember what happened here was
(09:01):
that President Obama, according to these recent revelations, went in
after the November twenty sixteen election, after President Trump had
been elected President of the United States and directed the
United States government officials in the room with him to
go out and show to find evidence, develop evidence, manufacture evidence,
(09:24):
manipulate evidence, however you want to put it to demonstrate
not if not whether, but how Russia impacted the outcome
of the election and did so in Donald Trump's favor
that simply wasn't true, and in fact, they were messing
with evidence. This is a horrific scandal, and based on
what we've learned about this already, this is arguably the
(09:47):
most significant political scandal in US history. And I'm not
even sure what the outcome will be because we don't
have anything else to compare it to. But the most
important part of it. There are all kinds of considerations,
from statutes of limitations to whatever it takes to get
more information out of this that will have to be
taken into account to know exactly who may be charged.
(10:11):
But the most important thing is that the American people
learn about it, and then we get to the bottom
of who knew what and when and hold on accountable
for that.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Centerarly, we know you have to get out on the
floor and get to work. We appreciate you fitness in
to answer these questions we were talking about today. Keep
up the good work and shoot me a text when
you want to come on again. Need to talk to
the audience.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Well due, Thanks so much.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
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Find it in their podcast feed on the iHeartRadio app
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The Buck Sexton Show. Oh goodness, a lot of you
out there reacting to a variety of different stories that
we are chasing. Tommy larn from Fox News and OutKick
(12:22):
is going to join us at the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Right now.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Becky is on vacation in Colorado, but she lives in
Texas and she's finding us wherever she goes across the country. Becky,
we appreciate you listening. How's the vacation going.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
Hey, it's great. We have a cabinet pier and we're
just enjoying enjoying Colorado for the summer to get away
from the Galla stick feet.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Yeah, a lot of y'all Texans flee the weather there
in Colorado and Texas. That's a big overlap Utah too.
We were just talking with Mike Lee with a lot
of Texans, but you said, you're chasing us everywhere the show.
You can find us anywhere, right, and we love it.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
I was going to call say I had a big
bone to fit with y'all because we used to listen
to music in our car and you know, we're big
Beatle fans and everything. We're like rock. But here in Colorado,
whenever we're in the car, we're just so. We listened
to your entire show the hotel rre in the car.
We don't even listen to music anymore. What what has happened?
(13:22):
This is how great your show is.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Well, that's very kind, it's amazing. I'll borrow from the
lead singer of Oasis. We're better than the Beagles. Well,
like I got all that attach.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
You care say that? No, no, no. My husband actually
from the UK and we're huge Beetle fans. We usually
go to the Beetle Fast and stuff in Liverpool.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
I want to gootiate. Thank you for the call.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
By the way, you're in Galveston, are you at Texas
or are you a Texas A and M family?
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Who is the team?
Speaker 5 (13:50):
Uh, Texas A and N because both of our grandkids
go to Texas A and M.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
It's a great place. Thank you for the call.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
College station has blown ups super fantastic compared even in
the last fifteen years for my trips down there to
watch games. It's a pretty great play.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Which college football game am I tagging along to this fall?
By the way, this is the big deal? Which one
do you bring? The buckster two? Because that obviously is
the biggest.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Should showing yeah, you should come potentially you haven't been
to Knoxville yet. September thirteenth is Georgia at Tennessee. Lisa Booth,
who was a part of the Clay and Buck podcast network,
went to the University of Tennessee and she is bringing
her boyfriend who has never been to I believe an
SEC football game before, so he's coming in for that game.
(14:37):
So we would already have a kind of a fun
crew coming in again. Lisa went to UT, the real UT,
not the one down in Texas, the one in Tennessee,
and so so she's gonna be there. You can come.
September thirteenth, the biggest game in the SEC. I would
project this fall coming up. Looking at the preseason, I'm
also going to be at this one. Georgia hosting Alabama
(15:01):
on September twenty seventh in Athens. Have you ever been
to Athens?
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I have not been to Athens. I've been to Athens, Greece.
I've not been to Athens, Georgia. Well, that is a
very buck That was a very buck moment. I just
realized there. Sorry, yes, no, I haven't been to Athens, Georgia.
I've been to Athens, Grease. I haven't been to Greece.
I have been to Athens, Georgia.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
And Athens is pretty fabulous, one of the great college
towns in America. So you could also put that potentially
on the radar. Now, that'll be a super tough ticket.
I think Georgia Tennessee will be a little bit easier
because Tennessee hasn't been Georgia in a long time. We
got a bunch of talkbacks too. Let me scroll into
the talkback universe. Also, a lot of you, thank you
(15:42):
have managed to find the fat Clay and Buck photo
with Tommy Laren after we mentioned it, and it has
now blown up my timeline, and I just have to say,
that's a Brooks Brothers polo that I'm in. I burned
all of these polos after I look like I weigh
two hundred and fifty pounds in this photo.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I might be pregnant. You do you?
Speaker 1 (16:02):
You look like you have a a about a forty
eight inch waist on that one, and I look like
I'm rocking about a b cup or a sea cup
in the photo.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
It is not a good photo, which neither of us
Clay is not.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
I neither have man boobs, nor does Clay have a
forty eight inch or a fifty eight inch or an
one hundred inch waist whatever it is.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Yeah, I don't even understand how Brooks Brothers. I think
is that polo that I burned? Why did they even
design a shirt that looks like it could also double
as a tent? And why did I wear this?
Speaker 2 (16:35):
And no one ever told me that I looked alike?
You know, you got to take it.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
I think you just got to take the heat on
this one with the angle. I don't think you can
throw Brooks Brothers under the bus on this one.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
I don't think that that's that's gonna help help with that.
I don't think anybody would look good in this shirt.
I don't know what people are thinking, but let me.
I don't know what anybody's thinking.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Let me even walk out in this thing.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
By the way. Uh, let's see. Hold on, we got
a bunch of talkbacks. Oh you want to do your
friend from Worcester here, Clay, Look what you've done.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Look what you've done.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Yeah, let's listen Brian and Wooster ninety four nine and
news Radio five eighty up there.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Uh, he's calling bs on an earlier talker.
Speaker 7 (17:13):
All right, I'm gonna have to call bs on Vinnie
at the airport there, because anyone who's gone to strip
clubs for any length of time knows that finding an
Asian stripper is like finding a unicorn. They just don't exist.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
I'm gonna have to throw a flag on Brian from
Wooster and just say go to Las Vegas, especially during
the NCAA tournament when it is ninety five percent mail,
there are a lot of Asian strippers in that town.
I don't know about Worcester that it wouldn't shock me
if Wooster this sounds. I wouldn't think that it's necessarily
an Asian hamlet strong suit. Maybe it is, I don't know,
(17:47):
but I will just remind everybody the word of the
day is ameliorate. That's what That's what I've got for you,
all right, None of them, yes, Tommy Ler.
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Speaker 2 (18:56):
Welcome back, everybody.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
We've got Tommy larn with us now of five News
and outkicked and Tommy, let's just get right to it.
Are you surprised or is this right in line with
expectations to see the absolute freak out across the media
when it comes to a new ad with Sydney Sweeney
for eight for Genes or for a clothing company American Eagle.
Speaker 8 (19:21):
I'm not surprised at all at the outrage in the backlash.
This is what the left does when they know they've lost,
all right, they've lost the culture war. Woke is dead,
and they are lashing out, and the charge is being
led by objectively mediocre to less attractive liberal white women.
And that usually seems to be the case for all
the things that they complain about. It's led by liberal
(19:44):
white women. But especially when you have a hot girl
in an ad that really brings out the fangs, that
brings out the clause. I'm not surprised at all.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Okay, I am stunned, honestly, Like I get because we
hear so much about democrats that's recognizing that they have
lost men. I would say that overwhelmingly, the one thing
that unites men is an appreciation for pretty girls heterosexual
men anyway, which I understand there may not be very
many in the Democrat Party already. But if you're trying
(20:15):
to just be normal and just be saying, complaining that
an attractive person is used to sell clothes and trying
to say it's like being a Nazi is next level
crazy even for them. So you expected that when you
saw this Sydney sweeneyad, you were like, oh, left wingers
are going to lose their mind, Tommy. The Atlantic has
(20:36):
an article saying liking boobs is now conservative. This is
a legitimate article that is up in that magazine.
Speaker 8 (20:45):
We may never lose an election again at this rate,
which is fine if they want to freak out over it.
But no, I'm not surprised at all because the left
of the Democrat Party has been completely captured by the
activists and the woke class. They won't give a need
these things up. They still go hard for kil mar
Abrego Garcia, They go hard for men and women's sports.
(21:05):
There is not a dumb hill that they will not
continue to die on. They love this kind of stuff.
I don't know who they're listening to. They're not listening
to you guys. They're not listening to young men or
even attractive young women. They're completely captured by the green
hairs with gauges and septum piercings. That's who they think
makes up the majority of this country, and they want
(21:26):
to make them happy at all costs.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Tommy.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
You know, whenever I do a live event, if a
woman under thirty five approaches to take a photo or
to say hi or something, generally she says do you
know Tommy larn and gets very excited when I say yes,
So you certainly have. You certainly have your finger on
the pulse of the conservative youth in this country. And
I'm wondering the vibe shift, as they would say, in
(21:50):
the culture. Where are the biggest places you are seeing it?
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Like?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
What are the things that you're seeing now that give
you hope that the opposite of what we see with
the Sydney Sweeney phenomenon is really taking root, that essentially
that insanity is fading and culture is coming back in
a way that we can all be proud of.
Speaker 8 (22:10):
Well, normalcy is coming back. People have realized, especially young people,
they've realized that no, they do want to be attractive,
and they do want to be healthy, and they want
to be normal and they want to interact with people.
Things go in cycles, of course, and it's not just
fashion and style. But I will say the fashion in
the style right now is kind of going back to
the early two thousands. That's what's popular with gen Z.
(22:31):
They're resurrecting all the old clothes that I wore when
I was in the fifth grade, and they think that's new.
And that's fine with me because so has the normalcy.
It's like, yes, no, we want to look good, No,
we want to be normal, we want to talk to people.
We don't want to have the color of hair of
a green poison frog. We just want to be normal.
So I think that you're still going to have the
(22:52):
minority that's very loud out there, and then of course
on TikTok and voting for socialists. But those people live
in deep blue cities like York City or Los Angeles.
They don't live in Tennessee, they don't live in Miami.
There are normal people in those normal places, and I
think they're taking over.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Okay, A secondary part of this is the idea. And
I know you saw the Good Morning America report, so
this is not some crazy left wing report in theory. Right,
you're sitting most people eating their cereal watching Good Morning
America today show. Good Morning America has on a report
that this is code for Nazism because you have a
(23:31):
blonde hair, blue eyed woman that is in this ad.
How do we and I do think this is significant
because I think you kind of have hammered this. How
do we get back to treating all races equally and
not being able to just say basically, white people are evil,
which is the code of calling anything white related Nazi
(23:54):
in relation?
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Right, what's going on here?
Speaker 8 (23:58):
Well, first of all, you need to stop apology for
being white. And so the more that people say, hey, listen,
I'm not going to apologize to you because of the
color of my skin. I don't expect you.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
To do that.
Speaker 8 (24:07):
I'm not going to do that, then we go back
to some level of normalcy.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Hair.
Speaker 8 (24:11):
But that Good Morning America clip they had on an expert,
of course, a professor, and I know you saw it,
Clay because you tweeted it out. But the professor that
they had on ironically was a white woman who had
blonde hair, but there was an X factor. She was
also objective, objectively not attractive. So there you have it.
That is what who that is who is driving this primarily,
(24:33):
and then all the other people who maybe are not
white liberal women that are upset, they were told to
be upset by ugly white liberal women and that who
is who is leading this And it comes from a
place of jealousy. It comes from a place of deep
insecurity that they have to project and then they have
to call it like academics or the study of history.
(24:54):
But really it's self loathing. That's what it is.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Tommy.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Everybody can find you on Fox News on all the time,
but digital side, where can they go to see your show?
Speaker 8 (25:04):
Oukick dot com Live Monday through Friday, one pm Eastern.
And in a few minutes here I'm gonna pop on
the story on Fox News. We're going to talk about
Mom Donnie. So never at the moment, thank you guys.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
For having Tommy.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Yeah, of course, thanks Tommy. The commie mom Donnie trying
to ruin my hometown. Thanks Tommy. Uh, you know, Clay,
it is it is remarkable that at this stage of
the game, the corrective mechanisms that I thought were rusty, uh,
maybe malfunctioning, but still somewhat present within the Democrat machinery.
(25:39):
They don't seem it's not working. They're they're going crazier
in areas where it's costing them politically. That's the Usually
what they do is they're insane, but they hide it
and they pretend and they prevaricate, and they do this
halfway thing, right That was Joe Biden's whole game.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Oh I'm good, old Joe, the tuo choo.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Writing, you know, you can trust me, and then he
would just let far left wing governance, you know, the
auto pen everything else. Democrats are doing crazy stuff right now.
Like a normal, well adjusted person sees how they're responding
to the Sydney sweeneyad and thinks Democrats are neither normal
nor well adjusted.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Well, and I think this is the challenge, and Tommy
kind of hit on this in general. But if you
are trying to appeal to men, and this is I
understand some of you are super in the weeds on
policy related issues, and we have some of those conversations.
We just had Senator Mike Leon to talk about why
there's a logjam in the Senate with one hundred and
(26:39):
thirty five different nominees going forward. Most people have no
idea that's going on right. Most people don't understand how
Senate confirmation works. They don't understand how a judge gets appointed.
They're just normal. And that's why I think that Good
Morning America segment is important because you're, you know, mom
and dad trying to get the kid ready for camp
(27:01):
or kid ready for school or whatever it is. PLoP
them down in front of it. You're eating cereal, you're
rushing through the morning, and suddenly you see a pretty
girl in an ad for a jeens company, and you
have an expert on saying it it is coding Nazism.
I mean, we've got a story up at out kick
right now. One of ESPN's employees said, and I want
(27:21):
to make sure I get this quote right because I
couldn't quite believe that this was even real. This is
somebody who talks about sports for a living. Buck, an
ESPN writer said, The New Sydney Sweeney American Eagle ad
left him mortified. You work in sports and you go
on social media and say because a girl, attractive girl
(27:45):
in jeans left you mortified. The Atlantic says that Americans
liking boobs is now trending.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Conservative people are gonna think I'm kidding. I'm not kidding, Okay.
I think if you did a macro level study of
male politics in America, you would find it's not this is,
you know, a generalization, this is about the average. I
think you would find that men of deficient and medically
(28:16):
low testosterone overwhelmingly are far left wing in their politics.
I think you've seen. I think it is absolutely, I
think it is real. I think somebody should do the study.
I'm not kidding. I think if you're you know, it
depends on what your age level is, right, But if
you're a guy in your in your like thirties forties,
and then you can get into like nanogram per deca
leader and all this stuff. You know, if your number
(28:37):
is like below three hundred, you're voting Democrat. You're absolutely
voting Democrat.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
And look, I mean age can factor in because obviously,
if you're listening to us in you're eighty, naturally you're
very different. But I'm saying, if you're a guy thirty
to fifty, you have a medically deficient or close to
a testosterone level and left wing politics.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
There's a very clear correlation I think you'd find.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
And this is where for what I do. I feel
like I can sit down and talk to any guy
in America and they may not agree with me on
tax policy, they may not agree with me on judicial nominees,
but we can connect on sports. We can connect on
having an appreciation for attractive women, sometimes enjoining it, enjoying
(29:19):
an adult beverage. Democrats have lost the ability to talk
to these people. And I don't know if you saw
this Eric Swalwell, you know he put up the video.
They're trying to do gem ads and show themselves doing things.
He challenged Greg Guttfeld to a bench press contest and
said if Gutfeld beats him that he will withdraw from Congress.
(29:40):
I just took the bet. I said, I will no
longer do Fox News. If Eric Swalwell can out bench
press me, I will stop doing Fox News, hits an alternative.
If I out bench press him, he has to drop
out of Congress. Do you think he will take my bet?
I bet not. But I I think this is a
(30:02):
cultural issue, and again the politics being downstream from cultures.
One hundred percent, right, guys, now use being a Democrat
as an insult. They basically say, oh, you're you're a Democrat.
You voted for Kamala. Younger men, that is one of
the top insults you could be. When we were at
that game between Georgia and Alabama last year at the
(30:24):
Alabama frat houses, they had banners hanging outside saying Georgia
fans vote for Kamala. Like this is how much of
an insult for young men even being a Democrat is.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
This reminds me of when I was when I was
single in New York City and would come across women
who worked in the performing arts. Dancers, not that kind
of dancer Clay, but you know, they would do things
like Broadway and they're Broadway is maybe the most left
wing thing in existence. I mean Broadway is They're more
left wing than the Marxist professors at like Berkeley.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
I mean, it's just crazy town.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
But they would sometimes He's women that I would come across,
maybe on dates, would complain about men in the city,
and it's because they were searching for men who basically
act like women. And then they wonder why they're so
unhappy the you know, the so called male feminist you
know who announces this on the first date. That's actually
not that. This goes against our biology as a human species.
(31:24):
It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
And also women, women just know this is true. If
a man claims to be a feminist, run from him
in the opposite direction as fast as you can. First
of all, they almost never believe it. Secondly, they think
the only way they can get you is by claiming
to be male feminists. I'm telling you run in the
(31:46):
opposite direction from these people. You cannot trust them. I
think a lot of women out there know exactly what
I'm talking about. That is pro If that is one
of your leads. When you go to a date, guy
sits down like, oh, I'm a male feminist, just be
like check and leave it with him and get up
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck sext and show lots
of fun rolling in on a variety of different perspectives.
All right, let's see, let's take some of your talkbacks.
Ali says that Rush would have loved the controversy surrounding
Sydney Sweeney because one of his undeniable truths, feminism was
(33:49):
established so to allow unattractive women access to the mainstream
of society. Boom and I think he would have loved
all of this chaos. Certainly would have loved the Trump
election and everything that's followed the last six months. Bill
in New Jersey to be fair, Buck and eye worst
photo ever. It is now circulating again thanks to me
(34:11):
bringing it up with Tommy Larin. Nobody notices the pretty
girl between us. They just noticed the fat slobs on
either side of her.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Bill.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Thanks for having our back, w R listener.
Speaker 9 (34:20):
Ee Clay Buck Bill in New Jersey, Come on, fellas,
you know a picture ads ten pounds.
Speaker 5 (34:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
I think he's having some fun. I think I'm okay
with ten pounds.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
I look like I added one hundred and fifty pounds
in this photo. I think again, humbly.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Honestly, it's to be fair, Clay. You look like you
could be wearing a loincloth with a man bun trying
to shove another large man out of a circular ring.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
That is true, I could be carrying quadruplets based on
that picture. Chris in Tampa, Florida FF News Radio w FLA,
what you got for us?
Speaker 10 (35:01):
Has anybody picked up on the fact that they might
have been making fun of Sydney in that head that
she didn't know how to spell jeans? You know, one
of them dumb blonde jokes.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
No, no, sorry, no, we love your buddy, but no,
that's that's it.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
I don't think I don't think that that subtlety escaped.
They picked up really pretty girl to sell gear. They
made a pun between jeans and jeans. I don't even
the whole idea that people don't talk about good jeens
g e n e s.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Everybody, like everybody.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
Who has children, says, oh, you got grandma's blue eyes,
you got your dad sense of humor, hopefully you got
your mom's looks. I mean, this is very basic stuff,
and nobody, when you talk about it, says, oh, my goodness,
this is eugenics, this is Nazism. You tend to look
somewhat like your mom and somewhat like your dad.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
That's how their analogy works.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
This is a broader philosophical discussion which we can't have
in about forty seconds before the show ends. But the
leftist mindset is that the state can make us all
exactly the same, right, it's that sameness and collectivist. And
so the reality of biology and genetics is bothersome through
the left because we don't all have the same game.
(36:22):
Some of us are better looking than others, some of
us are taller than others, some of us are smarter
than others, and a lot of that is at birth,
a lot of it, especially the tallest thing.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
And look at Jesse Kelly.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
You think he's you think he's seven foot four because
he's such a great guy.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
He won the genetics lottery on that.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
And also, by the way, to your point, this is
all about dragging everybody down to mediocrity instead of big
embracing excellence and the meritocracy.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
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