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July 30, 2025 20 mins

In this episode, Senator Marsha Blackburn breaks down the dangers of DEI (diversity, equity, and inclusion) policies infiltrating American education. She calls out the National Education Association for pushing political agendas over academics, discusses the radical shift within the Democratic Party, and outlines her latest efforts to safeguard federal law enforcement. The Tudor Dixon Podcast is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network. For more visit TudorDixonPodcast.com

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. We are blessed today
to have Senator Marsha Blackburn with us. She's the US
Senator for Tennessee and there's some stuff going on in
Tennessee right now, so we're glad you're joining us.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
I'm delighted to join you always.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Well, I saw last week there was a hearing and
you started talking about some of these videos that were
coming out from universities that were saying they were still
including diversity, equity and inclusion in their programs, but they
were changing the name of it. So you've heard from
some of these universities, so I wanted to let you
talk about it a little.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
Yes, indeed, and we were having a hearing on DEI
on college campuses and in the workplace, and that day
we get these videos coming out from the University of
Tennessee and Belmont and Vanderbilt.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Even though those colleges have.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Removed DIEI practices, had individuals who are on faculty and
staff who were saying, oh, you know, we're still doing that,
we're just doing it under different names, and we're going
about it a different way.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
So what we have done is.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
To reach out to each of the universities and have
contacted each of the three universities, and you know, Tutor,
we want to make certain that they're complying with federal
and state law and that they have removed DEI practices
all each of these universities, each of the three is

(01:41):
going through an audit, an independent audit, to be certain
that they have removed all the DIEI practices. And then
they're also doing some retraining of their staff and making
certain that every staff member knows that they are not
to be pushing DEI property principles on school property and

(02:08):
that it is imperative that they comply with the law.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Do you think that they'll follow up with you on this,
I mean, obviously you are going to be so they
have committed to that.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yes, you know, our universities they do great work, they
do great research work, and we are just so honored
to have them doing much of that research work and
opening opportunities for young people. They're in our state, and
this is an issue of concern. They know that with

(02:40):
federal funds involved with state funds involved, that they have
to they have to comply with both the state and
the federal laws.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
You know, I went to the University of Kentucky. So
don't be mad at me. But my sister went to
Vanderbilt and we loved them, loved going there. Both of
us want to send our kids to our alma maters.
We actually I will be going on a school trip
to visit the University of Kentucky this week with my
oldest And that's been something that kind of I think

(03:13):
we took for granted for so many years that we
had these amazing educations and we went there and there
was nothing like this push. There was no ideology, and
I think that's just what people want to get back to.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
You are so right about that. I hear it all
the time from parents. They want to say in their
child's education, and they want their children educated, not indoctrinated.
And so many parents will say, when I was thirteen
or fifteen or eighteen, I had already studied this, this, this,

(03:48):
and this, and my child has had no exposure to that,
So that teaching the basics has dropped out as things
like CRT and DEI and revision is history crept in
and it has moved many educational institutions away from their

(04:11):
core mission of educating and equipping the next generation of
our citizens.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Yeah, we've heard from some professors that we've had professors
on here, from some of the IVY leagues who have said,
you know, we saw this starting to happen fifteen years ago,
and that's something that I think it was shocking to me.
I think it was shocking to my audience because we
were like, you know, we didn't see this. We felt
like it crept up overnight. But it has been kind
of the slow burn inside with some folks, not all people,

(04:41):
And I just want to make sure that we make
that clear. This is not how everybody in education feels,
but we have sort of seen this starting to happen,
and I think that the effects of these protesters that
we're seeing that have come out of some of these
great IVY League universities who we you know, you find
out you unmask some of these people that are out rioting,

(05:03):
and gosh, they're like Princeton grads. You know, you're like,
what are you what are you doing? You're out there
fighting ice in the streets. And that's something else that
you're working on, is these anti ice riots. Because we've
got some of these progressive governors like Governor Knewso who
says that he doesn't want to stop these riots. And
then you have the president that has to use federal resources.

(05:24):
So tell us about your bill that is targeting these laws. States.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
Yes, we've got a couple of things. First of all,
to protect our ICE agents in federal law enforcement, I
have legislation that would make it a felony offense to
docs a federal law enforcement agents as they.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Are implementing the rule of law.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
And what we found out was that our ICE agents
in federal law enforcement agents were not covered under the
covered persons on dosing and regular identities unless they were
working under cover. So this adds that cover as they
are going about their duties and their job. And then

(06:13):
that's just ice. Well it is for our federal lawnfir.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Okay, okay, all federal law. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
And then you also have the legislation we've done. As
you have the military have to be called into certain
areas to restore law and order. We became aware that
there is nothing in federal statute that requires these cities
like LA to reimburse the federal government for having to

(06:42):
call out the National Guard to restore the peace, protect people,
and protect federal property. So we have legislation that will
require these states and cities to reimburse the federal government.
When you look at those to La riots that carried
out Tutor, it was one hundred and thirty million dollars

(07:07):
that DoD spent restoring the peace in Los Angeles, California
during these recent riots. And people in Tennessee or Texas
or Michigan don't want to be paying for having descend
troops to a sanctuary city to restore law and order.

(07:27):
So this requires them to fit that bill and to
cut that check and pay back DoD.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
What are you hearing from your Democrat colleagues on this,
because they've been pretty vocal about saying that ICE agents
can't wear masks. They don't want them to be protected.
And really, if we think about this, this is a
new thing because they have some of them have called
for people to go out take videos, get injured, go
try to get attacked by the ICE agents. I mean,

(07:55):
this is really sick.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
It is indeed, But we have to bear in mind
the Democrats they lost on November fifth, They have lost
at the ballot box across the country. They have been
losing on votes in the House and the Senate. They
are losing in the courts. So they feel like the
only thing left for them now is to resist and obstruct,

(08:21):
and they are trying to obstruct every single day. And
one of the ways that they're carrying out this resist
and obstruct is to tell people to get out here
and fight federal law enforcement, fight ice agents, fight immigration.

(08:42):
You've got one member of the House who even has
they're running resistance labs to train people how to resist.
And so this is we just keep saying, look, if
you want to reach a resolution, why don't you come

(09:04):
talk and work on different things, make your case, But
resistant substruction, trying to blot President Trump's nominees from getting
a vote going, and trying to block the doors to
immigration service offices. This is not the way that we

(09:25):
should be handling the business of our great nation.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
a Tutor Dixon podcast. It's been interesting because as we've
watched since the election, the Democrat Party, their favorability rating
keeps going down, and it does seem like they have
a struggle. I mean, what you just said about the

(09:51):
resistance labs, it sort of blows my mind. And yet
I know that this is the division in that party
right now, I have to ask, is there any anybody
that you've been I mean, we know that you guys
are friends for years with people who are across the aisle.
That's just the reality of being in DC. And I
think some people think that it's always fighting all the time.

(10:11):
But these are your colleagues. Does anybody ever say to you,
and I'm not asking who, but does anybody ever say
we don't know what's going on? This is getting out
of hand.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
We have some and I have also heard from Democrats
in Tennessee who have said, oh my goodness, I when
I look at what is happening with some of that
far left flank, they feel like they have they no
longer identify with the Democratic Party. You know, Tutor, one

(10:42):
of the things that I have realized is that Tennesseeans,
and indeed many Americans, they want to see our country prosper.
They want their kids to be able to live the
American dream. They want to make certain that we have
a proper standing in the world, that our nation is safe,

(11:02):
that crime, that we get crime under control, and that
our communities are safe.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
They wanted to see the border secure.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
They want life to be affordable and the cost of
living to come down. And this is one of the
reasons that they have supported President Trump in the steps
that he is taking. And when you look at his
polling numbers and the way you have people whether they're
a Democrat, an Independent, or a Republican, they support what

(11:38):
he's doing with tariffs and trade. They support provisions in
the Big Beautiful Bill. They want to see the federal
government cut what they're spending, and those are all things
that people say, this is good for the country. And
if it's good for the country, it's probably going to
be good for our family, and it's probably going to

(12:00):
end up being good for our kids in the next generation.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Well, I think that we are definitely seeing people who
are going back to traditional American values, but that progressive
wing is still out there. You are still fighting that.
So I want to talk. I want to go back
to education, but I want to talk a little bit
about your bill for the NEA, the National Education Association's

(12:24):
federal charter. And I want to say first that if
you haven't been paying attention. Most recently, the Teacher of
the Year, the teacher who was awarded Teacher of the
Year came out and said that her job is highly political.
She now knows that her job is highly political. Well
it shouldn't be. That's that's not what it's supposed to be.
You have Randy Weingarten who has said that she believes

(12:45):
that the AFT should be very political. And the NEA
is radical in its mission. Now nothing what it was.
Its original mission was nothing near what its original mission was.
So you have a bill that is is to strip
the NEA of their federal charter. Explain that to us.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
Yes, as we were looking at this, this is after
the NEA had their convention and tutor.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
It's like they lost their every loving.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
Mind, I know, you know, and they were ranting and raving,
and they were against Trump, and they were against Congress,
and they were against all these things.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
And when you listen to some of that video, where
did they talk about the children? Right? You know, they
kind of forgotten to get there.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
So, realizing they had a federal charter that comes from Congress,
I said, we need to remove that now. If they
want to go off on their own dime and do
a five oh one C three or a C four,
they can do it. But a lot of the teachers
I talked to in Tennessee, they say, look, we joined
the NEA because we wanted health insurance and we wanted

(13:58):
benefits thanks of that nature. So let's let the NEA
go off and be a group, and let's not have
a federal charter, and then let's make certain that teachers
have other options where they can get the benefits that
they need.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
And the other thing.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
That I'm doing is this because you know sixty in
the Senate, we have to get sixty votes to move
anything forward. I have legislation that would say, if you
are a federally chartered union and there's only one, the NEA,
then you are not allowed to lobby Congress. And we

(14:38):
think that's appropriate. We have Secretary Linda McMahon who is
doing a masterful job of devolving the responsibilities of the
US Department of Education back to the states and the
local school systems, and she is in the process of
closing down that US Department and of Education.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
That's a good thing. That's a good thing.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
There were One of our frustrations here in the state
of Michigan is that you are these are public unions,
which means they are really taking public funds because these
teachers essentially have their paychecks skimmed off, and that goes
to the union, and the union has historically been there
to champion for teachers and strengthen the schools. That was

(15:24):
their mission was to support the teachers and strengthen the schools.
But they've openly come out and said they are a
political operation. That's right, and they're members of the DNC.
I mean, we're finding out that Randy Weingarten was a
member of the but she had in a position with
the DNC. Lookit a minute, why is it that they
can legally public charters, can legally influence elections by putting

(15:48):
money into campaigns, because I mean, it just seems like
they shouldn't be able to.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Well, and ninety eight percent, ninety eight percent of all
the political donations from the NA Democrats. And when we
were during COVID, it was the NEA that came out
against reopening schools twenty twenty one.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Who is it that led the way on CRT? It
was the NEEA.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
And then you look at this this stuff that they
have done and that they have pushed over the last
few years, and you say, first of all, you know,
if you exist, you can't come to lobby us.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
And secondly, we need to pull this charter.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Yeah, I think that we can all agree to that
because we see this trend. I mean, everything we've talked about,
you're talking about K through twelve, it's this political indoctrination.
And there was a lot of control over COVID. I
mean you talk about that. They even we even found
out that they were making decisions with the CDC's like
you're experts in everything. Now you can go and talk
about diseases with the CDC. But then that goes to

(16:58):
the universities, which is what why you've been rooting out
the DEI. And that to me is so critical, and
that is the difference with this administration than any past administration.
And I would say even Donald Trump's first administration. This
administration is so on top of saying no, we made
a promise to the American people, and we're going to
keep that no matter how challenging and how difficult it is.

(17:21):
Because the next step of that, after they come out
of college and doctor NATed, is going out in the
streets and punching ice agents in the face and thinking
that's okay. I mean, I think these things are all connected.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
And we all want our children to have a firm foundation.
We want them to come out of that K twelve education,
knowing how to learn, and desiring education and loving this
country and wanting to be good citizens and give back
to this country and be able to live their version

(17:53):
of the American dream, to dream those big dreams and
find ways to make them come true in a tree
that is built on opportunity and is built on what
I call the Big five faith, family, freedom, hope, and
opportunity and Tudor. If you are going to class and

(18:13):
you're being taught DEI and as I said earlier, the
fundamentals of education and learning are secondary to CRT and DEI,
then you're not going to have that basis. You're not
going to come out learning how you best learn, which

(18:33):
is something that we should do for children. So you know,
we're giving a good hard look. We've gotten a lot
of support on this. People don't realize that the NEA
is federally chartered, and so we are. We're getting a
good bit of support on this because regardless of what

(18:55):
someone's political affiliation is, they have been aggravated with the
NEA and some of these school boards that were so
given to DEI and have push forward some policies that
parents do not agree with. Some of these policies, men

(19:18):
and women's sports, boys playing in girls' sports, and people
want to see their children protected and provided for and educated,
and they every parent wants the best for their child,
and we should do our best and give our best

(19:38):
effort to make certain that opportunity is open for every
child in this country.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
It is always such a pleasure to hear the things
that you have to say, because they are the things
that everybody should be talking about. When you talk about
the American dream, I just get chills because it is
the American dream that fits whatever you want the American
dream to be. And it's a message that used to
be partisan, but it's a pleasure getting to hear it
from you. Senator Marsha Blackburn, thank you so much for

(20:05):
being on today.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Delighted to join you.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Thank you absolutely, and thank you for joining us on
the Tutor Dixon podcast. Go to the iHeartRadio app, Apple
Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts, or you can
watch this one on Rumble or YouTube at Tutor Dixon
and join us next time. Have a blessed deck

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