June 13, 2025 • 50 mins
On today's Dan Patrick Show, DP reacts to the Oilers' improbable comeback win to even up the Stanley Cup Final at 2-2. Will this series go 7 games? ESPN NBA Analyst Tim Legler breaks down why he still has the Thunder winning the series despite being down 2-1 and describes the Knicks' coaching search as chaotic. Oilers PxP voice Jack Michaels claims that this might be the best Stanley Cup Final in history and shares how hockey radio PxP voices are able to adequately describe an overtime goal.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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Uh oh, better get Maco Play the day Poll question
stat of the Day. Good morning. If you're watching on
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as well. We got a basketball game coming up tonight
thunder Pacers and OKAC is favored by six in this game,
trying to even the series. This is a must win.
OKAC is great, has to win this game coming up tonight.
Ok SEE was favored by four four and a half.
In the previous game of course, Indiana came out and
(01:08):
had a ton of energy. You have an interesting situation
going on with the Bengals with their rookie, Schamar Stewart.
He has now left camp. This is a guy who
has a ton of potential but really never kind of
gave you or produced that potential when he was in college.
But the Bengals made him the seventeenth pick of the
first round, and he's complaining about the language in his contract.
(01:32):
Your salaries are slotted with the NFL first pick, fifth pick,
nineteenth pick, you know kind of what you're going to make.
And then it gets into the language there, and that's
the problem that he and his agent don't like the
language in there, which kind of puts a roadblock into
getting the second contract. At least from what I'm told
(01:53):
with the situation, hockey last night was spectacular. It was
of course Leon dreisidel favorite, and it sounded like this
in overtime in Florida brings back memories.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Now. I think it sounded like this calls cross size
Seas to the overtime the epic Tulers to the series
two games a piece.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I see more aggressive shuffle board kind of you know,
pushing Uh, it wasn't a shot. It was kind of
a nudge, but it worked. It's almost like they were
surprised that it was just kind of trickling in. But
Leon Dreisladle, he does this as well as anybody in
the history of the sport. When you look back on
the regular season. I did a little homework today. So
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fourth overtime goal this postseason, that's the most in NHL history.
He also had six overtime goals game winning goals during
the regular season. That's also an NHL record. So when
the game was on the line, it's not Connor McDavid
I'm worried about. It's Leon Dreisidle. But in overtime, it's
three to zero. It's three nothing in the first period,
(03:12):
and I go, oh, my god, Florida. Florida is so unbelievable.
And they're at home, they're up, they just dominated six
to one in the previous game. And I'm thinking, all right,
let me hang in here for a little bit. Then
all of a sudden, there's a goalie change Freedmonton. All oh,
then there's a goal. Then there's a goal. See it's
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the one at the end of the first period. I
go Oh my god, that's a crusher because you have
to go in and just think about that for twenty
minutes in between periods, and then all of a sudden
they came out. Then all of a sudden they take
the lead, and then all of a sudden, closing seconds
what eighteen seconds to go, Florida ties it up Sam
Reinhart and then we go into overtime.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Now I'm thinking, all right, I got to make a
business decision. Can I wait? Can I stay up? Can
I watch overtime? I chose to go to bed. Anybody
with me last night choosing to go to bed?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Oh okay, everybody did, because my wife goes, wait a minute,
who won I go, no, there's overtime. Where are you going?
I'm overtime toohn. I got to go to bed, and
then you I don't know. It's like two in the morning,
and I wake up. I go, I'll be damn Leon Dreisidel.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Hockey's delivered.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Man. If you think about this season, the Alex Ovechkin
passing Gretzky, You've had a lot of excitement in the postseason.
Maybe Canada is going to get the Cup back finally Florida,
Florida the state has had that Stanley Cup for five years,
or at least they've been part of the Stanley Cup
final for five years. This is the sixth year, and
(04:57):
maybe they keep the cup there. But it's been fun.
It's been a lot of fun. And then you have
the game coming up tonight. The odds makers still favor
the Thunder to win in seven. That's your lowest bet
plus one seventy that they win in seven. Thunder to
win in six is the next best bet for the
plus two hundred, and then it goes to the Pacers
(05:19):
winning in six, Pacers winning in seven, Pacers winning in five.
Shay gilg is still your favorite to win the MVP.
But the game tonight, Thunder favored by six and still
favored to win the title. And I would have thought
that that game that they just won would have changed
(05:39):
things a little bit, maybe a little bit more. Maybe
the Thunder aren't six six point favorites, maybe it was
going to be two or three. But the fact that
there're still favorites in Indiana says a lot about what
Vegas thinks of Okay, seeing all right, Seeton poll question
for hour one on this meet Friday is going to be.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Well, we've got a few here from the fritzeal oh
if you're interested in all okay.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Oh, by the way, it came in. The gong came in.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
And this came out because Fritzy brought up the Gong Show,
which was a show where if somebody was bad, they
would hit a gong. And I said to the big german,
can you get me a gong? He said sure, So
we went on the old Internet and we found a gong.
And when something bad happens, you usually a Fritzy bad
(06:30):
joke or maybe a bad limerick, maybe a bad song.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Then you're gonna hear the gong and it. Let me
try this for the first time.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Oh, that's populous.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
What do you think that's a bad thing?
Speaker 5 (06:48):
If you heard that?
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yes, that is you know what. That sounds like.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
An emmy, Dan, that sounds like, Yes, you might as
well bang that thing with an emmy. I'm just gonna
bang on the gong allday. When they added the Gongda Show, though,
that's really where I put them ahead of PTI.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah, let me see the other shows that are gonna
add a gong after Yeah, bang of gone. I'm still talking.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Yeah, I'm still pugging bang of gong. Get it on,
se Rex, Yes, Uh, I just.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Love that sound.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
I know it represents something negative, but I think it's
a cool addition to the program.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Get used to it.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
Are a lot of that.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, you'll be the reason why we bang the gong. Okay,
Seaton pulled question from Fritzy. Uh yeah, hold on, Oh,
I didn't do the menu yet. We have done clams
casino clams, casino fried arted chokes, and we have lasagna
vodka sauce, lasagna. And also Dylan said that he would
(07:57):
whip up a batch of pesto for me.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Has it better than we do? Nobody? Yes, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
Oh, I just shake my head and nobody.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Oh okay, you put your hand up when you were
shaking your I was raising a roof.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Oh okay, all right, Uh Seaton, what's poll question?
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Well, we might as well start with I think four
out of the five of us are guilty of this.
Turning off a Stanley Cup Final game heading into overtime
is forgivable. I got to get up early for work
or inexcusable under any circumstances.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
That's one of those where you go, damn, I'm glad.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
I stayed up if you're an Edmonton fan or just
a hockey fan, because overtime hockey is spectacular. By the way,
Travis Kelcey and Taylor Swift did show up, and the
Internet did not treat them kindly because they're like, they
don't have an affiliation with either of these teams. We
don't have to show them fifty times within the first
(08:58):
fifteen minutes of the game. But don't blame Travis Kelcey
and Taylor Swift for going to the game.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
All right, I don't know. Didn't I say something about
your sport that they would like to go and be
part of it watch it.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I got I got my Taylor Swift sweatshirt on today,
you know, for the Swifties out there.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I'm just happy they're in love. It's still going strong.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Yes, I didn't have a problem with it, but I
can see it a hockey purists.
Speaker 6 (09:28):
You have nothing to do with the Panthers or the Oilers,
and you gotta all of a sudden be at the
Staney Cup Final and now TV is going to show
them a million times to get an extra rating point
or two. I can see if someone's all in on hockey.
They're already sensive about a lot of people that don't
appreciate their sport. Now you got them showing up.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Wait when you have somebody who is showing up for
your sport?
Speaker 6 (09:46):
Yeah, but now they don't go do they go to
regular season games? It's game four, the stage test final.
Any celebrities show up when Okay.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Who did spotlight has?
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Who they did? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Down the other celebrities who showed up.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Good point, I'm sure there were a few us.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Was Pitbull there or Gloria Estefan? Yes, Seaton.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I don't really like gatekeeping your sport like that, like
you don't deserve to be in or you shouldn't be
in watching my sport. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't really
like that.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Well, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
She could go to a Chiefs game and her boyfriend
is playing for the Chiefs, but all of a sudden,
it's the networks who do this. She doesn't say, I'll go,
but you must show me fifteen times. It doesn't work
that way. Blame the networks, don't blame her and him.
The fact that they went to the game tells you, man,
it's pretty exciting and you don't like Taylor Swift. So
(10:41):
that's why you're about I love Taylor Swift.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
What I said by saying I had no problem with
them being there, I'm saying I could understand the hockey
peer saying, you know, if they go to games, you know, periodically,
and now they're at the but.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
No one was there, run down. This isn't a Knicks
game or a Lakers game.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Did you have a problem with some of those people
who went to the next game who probably don't know
during the regular season, And the answer is no, you didn't.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
Except when Boogie with a hoodie shows up and they
make a big deal about him.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
I'm still missing that whole thing.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Shaboozy.
Speaker 7 (11:10):
Yes, Pauline, I actually don't think anyone was bothered by
Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey being there and the cutaway
shots by the network.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
What it is is three people post that on Twitter, and.
Speaker 7 (11:20):
Then a bunch of like half assed media companies take
that and post something so they could get clicks off
of Taylor Swift Travis Kelsey story. Okay, this is not
a real thing and no one's really bothered.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yeah, they kind of ride the wave of Taylor Swift
and Travis Kelcey. Right, but hey, I'm happy they're going strong.
And if they get engaged before this show comes to
an end, Fortz, he has to take a wedding cake
in the face.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Yes, Hut. The other thing, the one.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
Thing I do have a problem with that it happens
with the Chiefs too. When something good or bad happens,
you've got to show both. When the Chiefs are doing
well and they're high fiving and they're giddy, they never
really go to them when something bad happens, and bad
things have happened. In the course of a game for
the Chiefs last night, they high five one goal, two goals,
three nothing. They were obviously rooting for the Panthers, and
then all of a sudden when things started getting messy.
I don't remember them going up to the booth there
(12:08):
with despondent faces. How it's now three two three three,
and what's happening? So just be fair and show the
excitement and also the disappointment.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Okay, that's all. I would have been fine if they
went up there and showed the disappointment.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
I only saw the.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
Three high fives in the excitem when the Panthers did well.
Did not see any sad reactions. You gotta show both
be a journalist.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
There's no journalism anymore. There's a horse named journalism.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Fair Fair, Bob Lee's not walking through that door. You know,
there's no journalism. And blame the networks. They're the ones
that show you know, Taylor Swift and Travis Kelcey. Oh, okay,
what else do we have?
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Pull?
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Question Wise, let's see if the Pacers go up three
to one tonight, this series is over.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I'm not gonna say it is.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I will not say that. I will not say that.
But I do think it's a must win situation for Okay, see.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Can it be both? Yes, yes, must win ish well,
they have to win it.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
If they don't win it, I still think they obviously
have a chance because they're still playing Removes must It's
a musty. Okay, it's a musty game four in Indiana's
bailly musty in here. The musty musty. Also to the
networks who keep promoting the Indiana Fever and their next game.
(13:33):
Caitlin Clark is not playing, But when you see the
promos for that, Caitlin Clark's there for the Indiana Fever.
She's not playing she'd game against Atlanta. She wasn't playing,
but they are keep promoting the fact that Caitlyn Clark
and the fever. I guess technically she can be there
in street clothes, but she's not playing the Indiana Fever
(13:57):
and Caitlin Clark like she's not playing.
Speaker 7 (14:00):
Yes, Paul, he should alter the promo. Tune in to
watch Kaitlyn Clark watch the versus the Atlanta whatever.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Caitlyn Clark will watch the game with you.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
Yes, they should let Kaitlyn know somehow when they're gonna
put the camera on us, she should act like she's
kind of hurt or injured or just kind of getting
through it. I'm here at the basketball game, but that's
why I can't play. I'm okay enough to kind of
sit here, but I am suffering through some injury stuff.
Just just just you can make a little face like, ah,
I'm just gonna battle through watching this final game, but
I can't actually play.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
That's what I think.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
They should put put a little thing in her ear
and say we're gonna go to you now, act like
you're a little uncomfortable.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
That's one man's opinion than you.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
You had a gong right there.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
I was going to set you up so you could fall.
It's a pretty good setup. You you understand that you're.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
Gonna do the delay. It's set you up and you
let her down there.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
I know, because then I'm like, oh, you're picking on
him again.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
It happens anyway.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
But you were on Gong Watch. You just introduced the gong.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
People definitely weren't thinking that when you just told the
story about how you ordered the gong.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
I ordered the gong for the show because there are
times when there's some bad takes or somebody screws up.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
Line was a terrible take.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
They should show Kaitlin Clark looking like she's uncomfortable and injured.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
That's why, wait, you do this.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Nobody will use an injury to you know, his advantage,
like remember the planner fashion hoess oh, still not away?
And then you got hurt playing whiffleball. How long you're
still recovering? You haven't played another whiffle ball.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
I got the couple, I went to the doctor and
we were talking about Tommy John. Thankfully it didn't go
to that point, but they were X rays taking there's
some kind of ligament swelling.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
You are the softest.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
I tried the icy hot.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
I tried stretching exercise that wasn't working. I thought like
I was going to the knie from a whiffleball swing.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Okay, it's not a coincidence that you played wiffleball once
and you played really well, then you got hurt.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Now you're done. You played pickleball and you played really
well and then you got hurt.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
What is that?
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Yes, you are very I can't string two games in
e own. God, it's called soft soft.
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Speaker 2 (17:18):
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who's the favorite now?
Speaker 9 (17:31):
I mean, I'm not switching from OKC being the favorite.
I understand. You know some people are starting to waver
on that a little bit, And you know, we're caught
up in this in this culture, Dan, in sports, I'm
sure you see it all the time, Like when you.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Try to talk positively about one team.
Speaker 9 (17:48):
People on the other side automatically think somehow you're slamming
their team by me saying I still think Oklahoma City
is going.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
To win the series. Take a shot at Indiana.
Speaker 9 (17:58):
I thought it would be a seven game series for
the beginning because I had so much respect for Indiana's offense.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
They definitely got loose the other night.
Speaker 9 (18:05):
It's the first time in the series they really actually
look like themselves offensively, and I think a lot of
people think, Okay, problem solved. Indiana's figured this out, They've
cracked the code, and they're good to go.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Now.
Speaker 9 (18:17):
I don't necessarily agree. I know what that Oklahoma City
defense is that I watched all year. They're gonna have
a hell of a response tonight, and then I think
they've got to make some adjustments. I think Mark Daignol
there's some things he's done so far that I haven't
agreed with in this series, and I think he's gonna
have to make some adjustments or they could be in trouble.
(18:38):
So I think that you're gonna see something different from
them offensively, and certainly the defensive pressure that we've watched
that team put on people all year. I think that's
got to be on full display tonight. They understand falling
down three to one could could lead to a dire
situation for them.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
But can you get to this point in the season
with the NBA Finals at stake and out coach the
other coach?
Speaker 9 (18:58):
Can you out coach and think that there's you know,
you're not talking about anything where it's like so obvious,
but there are going to be decisions made on lineups,
on substitution patterns, on what you run at certain times,
adjustments to coverages. Right, those are the kind of things
that I'm looking at, and I think for Dagnault, who
(19:19):
I think is, you know, one of the brightest guys
I think I've ever talked to in this league.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
I didn't agree with the decision right off the bat to.
Speaker 9 (19:25):
Go with a smaller lineup and get away from what
you differentiated yourself with against most of these teams. The
reason you got Hertenstein in the offseason was so that
you could play the two big lineup with both guys
being very versatile defensively and give teams a different look
because you got thrown around in the postseason a year ago.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
That's the whole reason you got them and now you go.
Speaker 9 (19:47):
You gave Denver all kinds of problems with that lineup,
those two guys together, and now you get to this
series and you get the Indiana Pacers, and you took
a look at him on film, and you go, you
know what, I'm kind of.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
Worried about them.
Speaker 9 (19:57):
I'm worried about our ability to get I'm worried about
our ability to cover them all over the floor, the
way they spread you out and shoot the ball. So
we're gonna adjust before the series is started. We're making
the first adjustment. It's a sixty eight win team. I
disagreed with it, and he really hasn't gone back to it.
They've only played ten minutes together the entire series, and
(20:18):
they were plus seven when they play.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Now.
Speaker 9 (20:20):
It's a very small sample size, but it's a good
sample size, and I think in he Haanda shooting something
like twenty eight percent from the field when those two
guys are on the floor together.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
So will it be more tonight. I think there's a
good chance. Will he start them again. I don't know.
Speaker 9 (20:34):
Maybe he's not gonna give in on that. Oh Cano,
I think we're better off the smaller lineup. I think
that was a mistake going in. I also think it
was a mistake last game playing caseon Wallace as much
as you've been playing him. That's eighty minutes in three games,
he's got seventeen total points.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
I know he's a good on ball defender.
Speaker 9 (20:49):
Aaron Wiggins just had eighteen points in game two, comes
back Game three, disappears, barely play him ten minutes, gets
two shots, non factor, and they're trapping Shay all over
the floor. Dan, I think that there's shots to be
had out of those traps. A higher level offensive player,
maybe he makes Indiana pay for some of that blitzing
on Shay. Instead, they had Cason Wallace who was a
(21:12):
far inferior offensive player, and so they only took twenty
two threes in the game. They get shut down offensively.
Is that another adjustment he makes. Maybe Wiggins gets more
time again after that great game. He had a game too,
and he barely saw him the other night.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Yeah, just trying to figure out. Also, Richard Jefferson brought
this up.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
It was like eight thirty to go in the fourth
quarter of the last game, and he said, look at
the body language on Indiana. They were upright at the
free throw line. Ok see was holding their shorts there this.
I mean, that's not typical in the NBA Finals where
some team looks gassed and maybe maybe that's Indiana's pace
that can you know, kind of wear you down.
Speaker 9 (21:51):
Well, it's there's no question He's right, they were gassed.
I've never seen shake Golgess. Alexander looked at fatigued. I
mean every whistle, every stoppage play. In the fourth quarter,
he bent over and grabbed his shorts and was taking
deep breaths, trying to just compose himself. He had a
play where he missed a shot and then ran back
with Siakam and they threw it ahead to Siakam and
he literally shade it.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
Didn't have the energy to even compete with him. He
just got out of the way. It was a big
play in the game.
Speaker 9 (22:16):
He let him have a layup uncontested, and it showed
again his fatigue level. I think part of it for him,
and that metrics all boarded this out. There's ways that
you can measure how heavily pressured the guy is in
a game. It was the most pressure he's ever faced
in a game in terms of distance between him and
the defender. When he caught the ball, the shortest amount
of space he's ever had on the catch, the most
pressure he's felt up the floor, an average of sixty
(22:38):
five feet up the floor, pressuring him more blitzes than
he's seen traps than any other.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
Game in the postseason.
Speaker 9 (22:46):
So he had an easy way to seventy plus points
in Oklahoma City. I mean, it really wasn't easy seventy.
That's not what happened the other night. They targeted him.
Priority won two and three. He was that's the only
name on the whiteboard. We're going to figure everything else out.
If they start to beat us by giving the ball up.
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They targeted him.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
It wore him down.
Speaker 9 (23:09):
And that's what I think now they're going to see
on film and there'll be an adjustment to that and
finding ways for him to conserve a little bit more
energy while still being effective.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Tim Legler, ESPN analyst. You can see him late night
editions of Sports Center with Scott Van Pelt. I brought
this up to the dan Nets before. The amount of
energy you have when you're you know, a big time score,
whether it's Iversenter Jordan or you know Tracy McGrady, or
go down the list of every single night.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
You have to bring it.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
They're bringing their best at you. But that's really what's
amazing when you see these guys who can do it
every single night. They have to do it every single night,
and the energy it takes to put up thirty points
every single night, and that's what SGA.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Has to do.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
He has to get give you thirty three thirty four game.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
And that's why I very.
Speaker 9 (24:06):
Rarely throw out the word superstar because you just defined
what that is and that that is the simple definition.
It's every night, and it doesn't mean necessarily you're always
gonna shoot well. I mean, obviously those guys have off
nights too. But the one thing that you can say
about all the guys you just mentioned, you're gonna throw
Kobe into that list. You didn't mention Kobe like they
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they look the same every single night. Some night's more
efficient than other nights. Some nights when they're really efficient
is when they go crazy and you know they're they're
leading Sports Center because they have a forty or fifty
point game. But some nights, you know they have off nights,
but it always looks the same. It's the relentless pressure
they're applying to you. Offensively, and some guys, you know,
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they have the luxury of you know, because of the
nature of the position or the way they play.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
Some nights are a little bit more passive.
Speaker 9 (24:56):
That's why I got to draw the line, like the
superstar player, you're counted on every night to do that
because even the Knights, when you don't shoot well, the
pressure you're applying every possession is leading to other good
things for people, And you could still win games when
you don't shoot well if you're a superstar. Because you
have collapsed the defense, You've drawn extra guys to you.
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It leads to offensive rebound opportunities, it leads to open threes,
it leads to stuff for your teammates because of the
relentlessness with which you play. Very difficult to get onto
that list because very few guys have the stamina, the skill,
or the competitive will to do it every single night.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Switch topics here with the Knicks that when they fired Thibodeau,
I thought, okay, you fire him, then you must know
who you're hiring. I got the feeling that they were
going to fire him no matter what happened in the postseason.
They didn't expect to get to the Eastern Conference finals.
Therefore it looks worse. The optics are bad. But then
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it's so public of they're asking all looking for permission
to talk to all these coaches. Do they know who
they really want here?
Speaker 5 (26:07):
I mean, you know who knows? Maybe they really wanted
Jason Kidd. I don't know. If that that that seemed
to be the most the most smoke there around that one.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
If you're Jason Kidd, why would you consider that?
Speaker 5 (26:20):
I wouldn't. I mean, I don't know. I mean that
that's I'd have a hard time making the argument of
why you would.
Speaker 9 (26:25):
And it's other than other than I guess the biggest
one would be, Man, can you imagine being the guy
that coaches the team in that city that finally gets
it done for the first time in fifty plus years
in that market with a fan base like that city
that loves basketball.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
You're finally the guy.
Speaker 9 (26:45):
It's just like Jalen Brunson if he's if he's on
that team and they're able to do it, what that's
gonna feel like for Jalen Brunson Where he has sends
to like in terms of how he's viewed in all
time New York Athletes like I guess that that challenge,
you know Dallas has on that long ago that they
won it.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
But I'm with you.
Speaker 9 (27:04):
I mean, look, I don't know when Kyrie's coming back.
That's a big part of the equation for next season,
assuming he makes it back at some point, maybe it's
the following year, Cooper Flagg's second year. She's got Anthony Davis,
Kyrie recovered at that point, and Cooper flag in his
second year. Who I think is they can't miss star.
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Give me that situation. I'd rather have that situation than
than than the next. But look to your point, then
you can't all that stuff getting out and us knowing
all of that. So you know, who knows you might
have called five other guests today before me, and you're
gonna pitch it like I'm the guy you wanted all along.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
Like I don't really know that.
Speaker 9 (27:45):
I think it was just three or four okay, But
now and that is so like, this is a guy
we wanted all along. That's what they're gonna have to
do at a press conference now, whoever's sitting there, No, No,
this is who we wanted it was. You know, the
Lakers had that kind of that embarrassing situation in a
way with Danny Hurley, Right, that open recruitment of Danny Hurley,
you didn't get them, and then you.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
Go to Jaji Rettick.
Speaker 9 (28:06):
But see for Jjiurettick didn't care because he wanted to
coach so badly and it's the Lakers. He wasn't going
to care that he wasn't necessarily the first choice in
this situation.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
Now, who are you going to get?
Speaker 9 (28:16):
Knowing that they pursued I don't know a handful of
other candidates and you finally.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
Settle on a guy. So it's going to be interesting
how it plays out.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Yeah, I just don't see Danny Hurley in the NBA,
not because he doesn't have the coaching acumen, but just
the losses when you only lose a handful of games
in college and then you can lose a handful of
games in a week or two week period.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (28:42):
Well, the other thing is Dan you know, he's a
hell of a coach. He coaches hard. You can't coach
that hard in the NBA. I mean, you just can't
coach those guys like that. And now would he be
able to adjust to that and he'd have to. He'd
have to because that's just it's too long of a
season to kind of have that level of in your
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face intensity every day would would be difficult to manage
in the NBA. There's no question the guy's a hell
of a coach, and and look at times they need
you need to coach guys hard in the NBA. If
you don't, I think you're gonna get You're gonna get
run over as an NBA coach. But but there's got
to be an adjustment to it and the volume of it,
and and how frequently you do that. I think the
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guy could probably pull it off. I don't I mean
his name, I haven't really heard his name yet associated
with this. It seems like if he was gonna take one,
this would be the one, though, just based on where
he's kind of been his whole life and that part
of the country and you know, being a Jersey kid,
it seems like that would make a lot of sense.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
But I haven't heard his name quite yet. Pop up.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
If you could have a rematch of an NBA finals
in history, same players that they run it back, what
would you take?
Speaker 5 (29:59):
Without question, it would be the eighty fourth Celtics Lakers series.
Speaker 9 (30:03):
There's no question, because and you're probably for the same
reason as me. I mean, Bird is my favorite athlete
of all time.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
You know I wasn't.
Speaker 9 (30:11):
I had no geographical connection to the Boston Celtics. I
was a Bullets fan as a kid in the DC
Baltimore area. Elvin Hayes was my first favorite player. But
when Bird got to the league at the same time
I was good in high school. That's what I wanted
to be an NBA player because of him style of
play with the Celtics.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
I loved the Lakers too.
Speaker 9 (30:30):
Oddly enough, Magic was like my second favorite player, as
weird as that sounds, because their rivals. So the reason
I picked that one is because the Celtics lost that
series in seven, so let's run it back and maybe
Bird can get another title.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Weird that you would have Magic as one of your
favorite players since he passed a lot.
Speaker 9 (30:48):
That's true, but I loved playing with the guys that
played that way. Okay, that was my best friend, the
passing point guard. And by the way, by the way,
a passing point guard's best friend is a shooter.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Because I'm not.
Speaker 9 (31:02):
Putting it down a whole lot, so you're gonna get
the assist. There's no there's no, there's no gray area
with me. It's going up, so you'll get the dime.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Okay, career high assist in a game for Tim Legler.
Let's go round the room, Todd, what do you think
Legler's career high and assist.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
I'm gonna say I'm not even sure.
Speaker 10 (31:21):
I know.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
I'm gonna say seven or eight, probably.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Todd, I'm gonna go eight, all right, Seating, I'm gonna
go seven. All right, Marvin time, I'm gonna Paul, you
have the answer, I do.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
I'm gonna go nine.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (31:42):
Wizards versus Nets February nineteenth, nineteen ninety six dished out
seven assists.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
Oh hey, by the way, that would check. Okay, listen
to this I got I didn't even had no idea
that was the case. I certainly didn't know that game,
but I do know this.
Speaker 9 (31:58):
That was my second game back after missing almost a
year when I tore three ligaments.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
In my knee. I played.
Speaker 9 (32:07):
I came back All Star weekend, I got cleared to play.
I defended my three point Oh no, ninety six.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 9 (32:13):
I thought you'd ninety seven. Ninety six, No, no, no.
That was the midst of my best year in the league. Yes,
I had just won the three point shootout.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Yeah, Tim had eight.
Speaker 7 (32:21):
Two weeks before that, Tim had a triple single that night,
nine rebounds, seven assists.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
I had a lot of triple singles.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Did you where are your trophies for the three point
shooting contest?
Speaker 9 (32:33):
It's just in my in my office, and yeah, in
my office at all. It has a tiny little defect
in the back. No one knows about this till now,
a tiny little dent because when you win it and
you get the.
Speaker 5 (32:49):
Trophy and now you got to fly out.
Speaker 9 (32:51):
I was playing out of San Antonio to meet up
with the team on the road, so I'm carrying it
on the plane. What else are you going to do
with that thing? So I'm literally carrying the trophy. Had
to put it on the little conveyor through security. It
disappeared for a second. I was kind of worried about it.
I was looking in the other end, like wait for
that thing to pop out, and it banged something along
the way, and I said, there's a tiny little.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
Den in the back of it.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
But Eddie George, I think, had to put his heisman
through TSA and they and they broke a finger.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
Did they break it?
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Yeah, they did.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (33:22):
I always look at it like this, there's a tiny
little det in that it's it's it's perfect because it
kind of sums.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
Up my career at little at the beginning, but eventually
I got there. Right.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Uh, have fun tonight.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
Thanks for joining us man, looking forward to it.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Dan. Thanks Tim Lagler, ESPN, NBA n let's you'll be
with the Scott Bean Peasey postgame coverage NBA Finalsy.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
He could occasionally dish it out, but he was just
a shooter. He was a spot up shooter.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Still offended that he thought that he could beat me
left handed from three point range.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
I shot right handed.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
He shot.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
We're in Detroit. It's one of the most offended comments
I've ever heard. Then he said I could beat you
left handed, and I was like, God, dang, we didn't shoot.
We shot around. But he does believe that he could
beat me left handed. Yes, Martin, I think he's offended
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that you even tried to challenge him.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
No, No, I didn't challenge him.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
I challenged Greg Anthony because Legs and I are just shooting,
and this is before we're going to do a Sports
center hit and Greg Anthony comes out, and I was
basically saying to Greg Anthony, you don't shoot where we shoot.
Greg was a fifteen to eighteen footer, and I'm like,
we're shooting out here. And then I just remember Legs
was like, you know, I could beat you left handed,
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and I'm like, man, that hurt. And then I thought, well,
I'm not going to play him, because if I lose
to a guy who's right handed beats me left handed,
there goes my aura. Yes, Paul, how much.
Speaker 7 (34:57):
Time would Legler be practicing left handed threes?
Speaker 5 (35:01):
No idea.
Speaker 7 (35:02):
That seems like a big waste of time.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Yeah, until that moment where you need to shoot left
handed again, right up until it wasn't Yeah, play the
long game. Yeah, he knew one day some talking hairdo's
going to go out there and he's gonna say I
can beat you left handed.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
All right, we'll take a break. We're back after this.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
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Speaker 3 (35:28):
APP Final Hour.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
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we have a little pesto as well.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Who has it better than we do?
Speaker 11 (36:15):
No?
Speaker 5 (36:15):
No body pull question?
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Final hour the program, seat and at least final hour
on this Friday. How superstitious are you have a hard
time saying superstitious?
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Extremely? A little, not at all?
Speaker 4 (36:28):
Seventy four percent are a little? Friday the thirteenth, I
wonder way you'd just be a little and not extremely.
Maybe it's little.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Things that you're superstitious superstitious around.
Speaker 7 (36:41):
Yes, can you be sports stitious and not superstitious like
I wouldn't be bothered if I broke a mirror or
walked under a ladder, wouldn't bother me at all. But
if a team I love is playing well, and I'm
sitting in a certain seat in my house, I'm staying
in that seat. Yeah, and vice versa. Yes, so that's sports.
I guess it's superstition.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Yes, yeah, I would think so. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
What else do you have?
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Seten?
Speaker 4 (37:06):
Uh? We also put up there. This one is very
much about Todd Fritz. Would you rather be uh physically
fragile or mentally disturbed?
Speaker 3 (37:20):
It's one or the other.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
I'm surprised that so many people I'm not sure why
I'm surprised about this, but that so many people are
choosing physically fragile rather than mentally disturbed. Well, I don't
think anybody wants to be disturbed. You could be mentally disturbed,
but that means that you're super fit. How about your
crazy end in good shape? Or you can be have
all of your mental faculties that are perfectly intact, but
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you're very fragile physically.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
What about mentally physical uh or mentally or physically soft?
How about if we just did that, it could be
mentally soft or physically soft or what it would people
say about that? Any other poll questions for the final
hour this weekend. We can update that if you'd like it,
we can all right? Would you rather be mentally soft
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or physically soft?
Speaker 5 (38:07):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Todd might be both?
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Eight seven seven three DP show email address dpat dan
Patrick dot com Twitter handle a DP show Nick and Irvine.
Hi Nick, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 12 (38:22):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (38:22):
Dan?
Speaker 11 (38:23):
I got three comments for you. First of all, back
in the eighties, when you could go to Hollywood Park
for horse racing and there's thirty thousand and forty thousand people,
I was into the ponies, and I was on a
bad streak, and I was trying everything. I'll never forget
my dad when I told him what was going on,
and you know, I was trying to put together numbers
(38:45):
and trying to, you know, do all these different things.
And he said, and he looked me right now, the
most earnest thing he ever said, and he said, son,
don't forget these two pieces of advice. Number one, it
is bad luck to be superstitious, and number two, never
bet on a horse that eats. And ever since then,
I have never lost again at the track. I want
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to tell you about my trigger grilled. It is true
that you can, uh, you can adjust the trigger grill
with your phone. It's an incredible feature. But Todd, I
think you would like this. You can, it's a little
known fact. You can also call the trigger grill and
you can talk to each individual Patty or chicken wing
or whatever and that.
Speaker 5 (39:27):
Thank you.
Speaker 11 (39:30):
You have.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Thunder Pacers Game four, okay, see favored by six. The
Oilers came back. They were down three to nothing and
then they win five to four and overtime. And this
is how the game winner sounded.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Breaking free is try Toddle to.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
The deck.
Speaker 10 (39:47):
Play on try Suddle This.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Time this series put a spot o t Winter of
the Playoffs Final Star the ten five.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Over the man on the Call, Jack Michaels, Edmundton Oiler's
radio play by Playboys, how's the throat today?
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Jack Dan?
Speaker 10 (40:15):
I'm okay, you know what I And I don't know
whether that triggered you, because nineteen years ago you and
Keith were doing a Homer call the week and you
had me on twice in two weeks, Alaskan Vegas and
Alaskan Fresno. And I remember you being fascinated with it
being the East coast Hockey League. You know, championship series
(40:35):
involving Alaskan Fresno.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
Great to have you back. You had a great seat
for this with your team down three to nothing, what
were you thinking?
Speaker 10 (40:48):
Well, to be honest with you, that's where the Oilers
seem to thrive. I don't know what it is, but
this club is not content with prosperity. It loves to
dig itself a hole. Whether it's early in the season
they started zero to three this year, two nine and
one last year, or whether it's in early in games.
And you just had a feeling that if Edmonton got won,
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the momentum con turn in a hurry. We've got two
great teams, Dan, I would say through four finals, this
Stanley Cup Final is shaping up as the best in
the history of the sport. And I honestly don't you
know that's not an exaggeration. These two teams are clearly
the best in the National Hockey League. They found an
extra year, and you know Florida is a worthy champion.
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This is now a best of three with two on
Edmonton's hall ice. But I don't think anyone can be
called a favorite.
Speaker 11 (41:40):
Not right now.
Speaker 10 (41:40):
We've had the two latest game time goals in the
history of the final. A week apart.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Also, when we talked about this last week, how important
is the Cup to Canada?
Speaker 3 (41:51):
We know it's important to Edmonton. Is Canada rooting for Edmonton?
Speaker 10 (41:57):
Well, I think for years. I think for years Edmonton
has been kind of everyone's second favorite team. Is you know,
passionate fan bases exist in you know, Toronto and you know, so,
I don't know whether the Leafs are more of a
polarizing figure than some of the other clubs. Edmondton is
(42:19):
more you know, I mean Gregson, Right, it's no one
really hates you or S except maybe those who reside
in Calgary. Right. It's a bit of a national team
from that perspective, in the sense that when you live
in Canada, there's no middle round with the Torontomly, Edmondston
(42:40):
is a little bit different in the sense, well, you know,
I can live with Edmonton winning the Cup.
Speaker 11 (42:46):
I can't live with Lease winning the Cup.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
When you go to overtime, you know that the game
is on somebody's stick there as the play by play voice.
How do you approach that knowing that it can end
very quickly?
Speaker 10 (43:03):
Absolutely, no divergence, No tangents, no you know, thoughts to
come to mind. Just button it up and call the game.
And you have to do that really with Connor McDavid anyway,
I as you can probably sell them thrown the gab.
I need to button it up all the game because
they could end at any moment. And as you saw,
(43:24):
I mean Leon dress one handed shot that gets a
tear of off a kneecap and goes five hole on Lebroski,
not your typical you know ot winner. You just have
to be ready and you can again go off on
some random spot for nineteen seventy one.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
You are a professional at doing this. We just heard
your call with the game winning goal in overtime. Seaton O'Connor,
who works on my show. He we love Leon dry Sidle.
We only bring his name up in June, but you
know he's always scoring big goals. I want you to
grade Seaton's call of Leon dry Sidel's game winner last night.
Speaker 10 (44:15):
How you know. I guess what I say is I
need a little crowd noise. It's not completely you got
a little bit of a phone ball situation. The good
thing is his voice not cracked. I will say that.
You know he didn't sound like a guy points her
ado left.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
And you know you play by play guys in hockey,
it's like you're trying to cram words in and then
all of a sudden it just is all kind of jumbled,
and then it's try ford in over time.
Speaker 10 (44:53):
That's why I went to the overtime call the way
I did. I figure that was the one word that
everyone would understand.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
Hey, great to talk to you again, and good luck
with this next game on Saturday. Thank you, Jack, Dan, I.
Speaker 10 (45:08):
Really appreciate you having me on. And Keith below.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
Jack Michaels Edmondton owner's radio play by play voice, also
does TV as well, fifteen years doing radio.
Speaker 5 (45:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
We had him on for Homer Call of the Week
nineteen years ago and Keith Oberman has stayed in touch
with him.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
That was the all hour two Yeah, right in the
middle of the Yeah the show, Yeah, radio show. The
Homer Call of the Week was fun. Homer Call of
the Week was fun.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
Brought to you by James in New Mexico. Hi James,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 12 (45:43):
Hey Dan, thanks for taking a call. So I'm part
of your younger demographic and an NBA casualist. I guess
I would say, and I was curious, so, you know,
not knowing too much about the past eras of players
who would be the compst today's game. It could be
like play style. It's hard because there's two different games,
(46:04):
but like who they were in the media, like who
is Berkeley then today? And I guess the obviously want
to be Jordan Lebron, but like try to educate myself
more on who they were to the game and like
in the media back then to today's game, like some comps.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
There, Huh, I don't think there aren't comps for those three.
I mean Charles was unique. I mean he's more unique now.
But as a player, you're just you couldn't believe that
somebody who's six' five is going Against shaq and wasn't
afraid Of Shack. Jordan you're watching and you're going, That
i've never seen anybody like. That and then Even, lebron
(46:42):
somebody that, big who's able to do all of these
things because we thought we saw that With. Magic now
you're Seeing lebron do that but also be a great
scorer and now forty thousand points. LATER i think a
lot of times we try to do those. Comparisons you,
know that guy reminds me of there's so many unique
(47:03):
great athletes that there aren't comps every white player who can.
Shoot you, know he kind of reminds me Of Larry. Bird, no,
no he doesn't anybody who's six's nine at point. Guard you,
Know heven reminds me Of magic just because he's six'.
Nine sga you're hearing the, you know he's Kinda Like. Michael,
(47:24):
jordan no. He's, not no he's a, great scorer.
Speaker 5 (47:30):
But He's Not.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
Michael jordan it's just different. Style points jordan gave, You
that barkley gave You. That lebron, you know there's Nobody Like,
steph curry, no one and you, can, say oh you
know it kind of reminds Me Of. Steph Curry caitlin
clark might remind You Of. Steph curry that's the closest
(47:52):
COMP that i. Would have but, You Know, Klay thompson
i've never seen somebody so economical at his peak of
not needing a dribble and that famous game where he
had like nine dribbles the. Entire, Game, yeah.
Speaker 5 (48:10):
Marvin respect, his hand he had, Eleven dribbles so.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
Eleven, dribbles, okay yeah he's not beating you off. The dribble,
you Know if i'm, GUARDING him i know he's not
going to beat me off, the dribble but he is
if you let, him shoot he's. Making it and that's
another one of those guys when you're watching guys who
were in college and then, You, go wow that guy's
going to be. A pro he's going to, be great
(48:33):
and then he doesn't, become that and then you see
somebody else and, you, go, oh man he Went To.
WASHINGTON state i REMEMBER what i Remember Watching, washington state
and the only REASON why I Remember klay thompson is
because of, His, father MICHAEL who i know that. WAS
it i Remember Watching gary Payton at OREGON and, i
(48:55):
said that guy's going to be a. Great pro But
Then brent barry is on. That team and if you
would have, said, that dude there's gonna win the slam,
Dunk contest i'd, be.
Speaker 3 (49:02):
Like huh.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
You see these guys and then you don't. Envision Them
steve Nash At. SANTA clara i WATCHED and i, was
like this little guy with a bad haircut and he.
Is entertaining never would have thought anything other. Than that
that's why when you had these scouts when, they, go
hey we're taking, this guy and, you, go man who?
(49:25):
Saw that or when you have scouts and they go
we're taking this guy and, you go.
Speaker 5 (49:28):
What did you see in?
Speaker 2 (49:29):
That guy what did you See In Michael olowod Candy
Or anthony bennett or some of these, other players and,
you're like, Huh, yes, Martin.
Speaker 5 (49:39):
Yeah klay thompson his. FIRST team i did not see.
That Coming donovan mitchell was another guy where it was
like the undersize going Out. Of louisville, they, know wow
they picked him. Pretty. HIGH yeah i, did not not
saying they weren't very good, college PLAYERS but i didn't.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
EXPECT this i don't Even Remember Donovan mitchell LOUISVILLE because
i felt like all of their guards were like six.
Speaker 3 (50:01):
To one but they were an. Unbelievable team
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as well. We got a basketball game coming up tonight
thunder Pacers and OKAC is favored by six in this game,
trying to even the series. This is a must win.
OKAC is great, has to win this game coming up tonight.
Ok SEE was favored by four four and a half.
In the previous game of course, Indiana came out and
(01:08):
had a ton of energy. You have an interesting situation
going on with the Bengals with their rookie, Schamar Stewart.
He has now left camp. This is a guy who
has a ton of potential but really never kind of
gave you or produced that potential when he was in college.
But the Bengals made him the seventeenth pick of the
first round, and he's complaining about the language in his contract.
(01:32):
Your salaries are slotted with the NFL first pick, fifth pick,
nineteenth pick, you know kind of what you're going to make.
And then it gets into the language there, and that's
the problem that he and his agent don't like the
language in there, which kind of puts a roadblock into
getting the second contract. At least from what I'm told
(01:53):
with the situation, hockey last night was spectacular. It was
of course Leon dreisidel favorite, and it sounded like this
in overtime in Florida brings back memories.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Now. I think it sounded like this calls cross size
Seas to the overtime the epic Tulers to the series
two games a piece.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I see more aggressive shuffle board kind of you know,
pushing Uh, it wasn't a shot. It was kind of
a nudge, but it worked. It's almost like they were
surprised that it was just kind of trickling in. But
Leon Dreisladle, he does this as well as anybody in
the history of the sport. When you look back on
the regular season. I did a little homework today. So
(02:50):
fourth overtime goal this postseason, that's the most in NHL history.
He also had six overtime goals game winning goals during
the regular season. That's also an NHL record. So when
the game was on the line, it's not Connor McDavid
I'm worried about. It's Leon Dreisidle. But in overtime, it's
three to zero. It's three nothing in the first period,
(03:12):
and I go, oh, my god, Florida. Florida is so unbelievable.
And they're at home, they're up, they just dominated six
to one in the previous game. And I'm thinking, all right,
let me hang in here for a little bit. Then
all of a sudden, there's a goalie change Freedmonton. All oh,
then there's a goal. Then there's a goal. See it's
(03:33):
the one at the end of the first period. I
go Oh my god, that's a crusher because you have
to go in and just think about that for twenty
minutes in between periods, and then all of a sudden
they came out. Then all of a sudden they take
the lead, and then all of a sudden, closing seconds
what eighteen seconds to go, Florida ties it up Sam
Reinhart and then we go into overtime.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Now I'm thinking, all right, I got to make a
business decision. Can I wait? Can I stay up? Can
I watch overtime? I chose to go to bed. Anybody
with me last night choosing to go to bed?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Oh okay, everybody did, because my wife goes, wait a minute,
who won I go, no, there's overtime. Where are you going?
I'm overtime toohn. I got to go to bed, and
then you I don't know. It's like two in the morning,
and I wake up. I go, I'll be damn Leon Dreisidel.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Hockey's delivered.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Man. If you think about this season, the Alex Ovechkin
passing Gretzky, You've had a lot of excitement in the postseason.
Maybe Canada is going to get the Cup back finally Florida,
Florida the state has had that Stanley Cup for five years,
or at least they've been part of the Stanley Cup
final for five years. This is the sixth year, and
(04:57):
maybe they keep the cup there. But it's been fun.
It's been a lot of fun. And then you have
the game coming up tonight. The odds makers still favor
the Thunder to win in seven. That's your lowest bet
plus one seventy that they win in seven. Thunder to
win in six is the next best bet for the
plus two hundred, and then it goes to the Pacers
(05:19):
winning in six, Pacers winning in seven, Pacers winning in five.
Shay gilg is still your favorite to win the MVP.
But the game tonight, Thunder favored by six and still
favored to win the title. And I would have thought
that that game that they just won would have changed
(05:39):
things a little bit, maybe a little bit more. Maybe
the Thunder aren't six six point favorites, maybe it was
going to be two or three. But the fact that
there're still favorites in Indiana says a lot about what
Vegas thinks of Okay, seeing all right, Seeton poll question
for hour one on this meet Friday is going to be.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Well, we've got a few here from the fritzeal oh
if you're interested in all okay.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Oh, by the way, it came in. The gong came in.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
And this came out because Fritzy brought up the Gong Show,
which was a show where if somebody was bad, they
would hit a gong. And I said to the big german,
can you get me a gong? He said sure, So
we went on the old Internet and we found a gong.
And when something bad happens, you usually a Fritzy bad
(06:30):
joke or maybe a bad limerick, maybe a bad song.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Then you're gonna hear the gong and it. Let me
try this for the first time.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Oh, that's populous.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
What do you think that's a bad thing?
Speaker 5 (06:48):
If you heard that?
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yes, that is you know what. That sounds like.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
An emmy, Dan, that sounds like, Yes, you might as
well bang that thing with an emmy. I'm just gonna
bang on the gong allday. When they added the Gongda Show, though,
that's really where I put them ahead of PTI.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah, let me see the other shows that are gonna
add a gong after Yeah, bang of gone. I'm still talking.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Yeah, I'm still pugging bang of gong. Get it on,
se Rex, Yes, Uh, I just.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Love that sound.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
I know it represents something negative, but I think it's
a cool addition to the program.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Get used to it.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
Are a lot of that.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, you'll be the reason why we bang the gong. Okay,
Seaton pulled question from Fritzy. Uh yeah, hold on, Oh,
I didn't do the menu yet. We have done clams
casino clams, casino fried arted chokes, and we have lasagna
vodka sauce, lasagna. And also Dylan said that he would
(07:57):
whip up a batch of pesto for me.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Has it better than we do? Nobody? Yes, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
Oh, I just shake my head and nobody.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Oh okay, you put your hand up when you were
shaking your I was raising a roof.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Oh okay, all right, Uh Seaton, what's poll question?
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Well, we might as well start with I think four
out of the five of us are guilty of this.
Turning off a Stanley Cup Final game heading into overtime
is forgivable. I got to get up early for work
or inexcusable under any circumstances.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
That's one of those where you go, damn, I'm glad.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
I stayed up if you're an Edmonton fan or just
a hockey fan, because overtime hockey is spectacular. By the way,
Travis Kelcey and Taylor Swift did show up, and the
Internet did not treat them kindly because they're like, they
don't have an affiliation with either of these teams. We
don't have to show them fifty times within the first
(08:58):
fifteen minutes of the game. But don't blame Travis Kelcey
and Taylor Swift for going to the game.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
All right, I don't know. Didn't I say something about
your sport that they would like to go and be
part of it watch it.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I got I got my Taylor Swift sweatshirt on today,
you know, for the Swifties out there.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I'm just happy they're in love. It's still going strong.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Yes, I didn't have a problem with it, but I
can see it a hockey purists.
Speaker 6 (09:28):
You have nothing to do with the Panthers or the Oilers,
and you gotta all of a sudden be at the
Staney Cup Final and now TV is going to show
them a million times to get an extra rating point
or two. I can see if someone's all in on hockey.
They're already sensive about a lot of people that don't
appreciate their sport. Now you got them showing up.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Wait when you have somebody who is showing up for
your sport?
Speaker 6 (09:46):
Yeah, but now they don't go do they go to
regular season games? It's game four, the stage test final.
Any celebrities show up when Okay.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Who did spotlight has?
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Who they did? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Down the other celebrities who showed up.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Good point, I'm sure there were a few us.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Was Pitbull there or Gloria Estefan? Yes, Seaton.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I don't really like gatekeeping your sport like that, like
you don't deserve to be in or you shouldn't be
in watching my sport. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't really
like that.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Well, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
She could go to a Chiefs game and her boyfriend
is playing for the Chiefs, but all of a sudden,
it's the networks who do this. She doesn't say, I'll go,
but you must show me fifteen times. It doesn't work
that way. Blame the networks, don't blame her and him.
The fact that they went to the game tells you, man,
it's pretty exciting and you don't like Taylor Swift. So
(10:41):
that's why you're about I love Taylor Swift.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
What I said by saying I had no problem with
them being there, I'm saying I could understand the hockey
peer saying, you know, if they go to games, you know, periodically,
and now they're at the but.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
No one was there, run down. This isn't a Knicks
game or a Lakers game.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Did you have a problem with some of those people
who went to the next game who probably don't know
during the regular season, And the answer is no, you didn't.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
Except when Boogie with a hoodie shows up and they
make a big deal about him.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
I'm still missing that whole thing.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Shaboozy.
Speaker 7 (11:10):
Yes, Pauline, I actually don't think anyone was bothered by
Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey being there and the cutaway
shots by the network.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
What it is is three people post that on Twitter, and.
Speaker 7 (11:20):
Then a bunch of like half assed media companies take
that and post something so they could get clicks off
of Taylor Swift Travis Kelsey story. Okay, this is not
a real thing and no one's really bothered.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yeah, they kind of ride the wave of Taylor Swift
and Travis Kelcey. Right, but hey, I'm happy they're going strong.
And if they get engaged before this show comes to
an end, Fortz, he has to take a wedding cake
in the face.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Yes, Hut. The other thing, the one.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
Thing I do have a problem with that it happens
with the Chiefs too. When something good or bad happens,
you've got to show both. When the Chiefs are doing
well and they're high fiving and they're giddy, they never
really go to them when something bad happens, and bad
things have happened. In the course of a game for
the Chiefs last night, they high five one goal, two goals,
three nothing. They were obviously rooting for the Panthers, and
then all of a sudden when things started getting messy.
I don't remember them going up to the booth there
(12:08):
with despondent faces. How it's now three two three three,
and what's happening? So just be fair and show the
excitement and also the disappointment.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Okay, that's all. I would have been fine if they
went up there and showed the disappointment.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
I only saw the.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
Three high fives in the excitem when the Panthers did well.
Did not see any sad reactions. You gotta show both
be a journalist.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
There's no journalism anymore. There's a horse named journalism.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Fair Fair, Bob Lee's not walking through that door. You know,
there's no journalism. And blame the networks. They're the ones
that show you know, Taylor Swift and Travis Kelcey. Oh, okay,
what else do we have?
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Pull?
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Question Wise, let's see if the Pacers go up three
to one tonight, this series is over.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I'm not gonna say it is.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I will not say that. I will not say that.
But I do think it's a must win situation for Okay, see.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Can it be both? Yes, yes, must win ish well,
they have to win it.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
If they don't win it, I still think they obviously
have a chance because they're still playing Removes must It's
a musty. Okay, it's a musty game four in Indiana's
bailly musty in here. The musty musty. Also to the
networks who keep promoting the Indiana Fever and their next game.
(13:33):
Caitlin Clark is not playing, But when you see the
promos for that, Caitlin Clark's there for the Indiana Fever.
She's not playing she'd game against Atlanta. She wasn't playing,
but they are keep promoting the fact that Caitlyn Clark
and the fever. I guess technically she can be there
in street clothes, but she's not playing the Indiana Fever
(13:57):
and Caitlin Clark like she's not playing.
Speaker 7 (14:00):
Yes, Paul, he should alter the promo. Tune in to
watch Kaitlyn Clark watch the versus the Atlanta whatever.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Caitlyn Clark will watch the game with you.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
Yes, they should let Kaitlyn know somehow when they're gonna
put the camera on us, she should act like she's
kind of hurt or injured or just kind of getting
through it. I'm here at the basketball game, but that's
why I can't play. I'm okay enough to kind of
sit here, but I am suffering through some injury stuff.
Just just just you can make a little face like, ah,
I'm just gonna battle through watching this final game, but
I can't actually play.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
That's what I think.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
They should put put a little thing in her ear
and say we're gonna go to you now, act like
you're a little uncomfortable.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
That's one man's opinion than you.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
You had a gong right there.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
I was going to set you up so you could fall.
It's a pretty good setup. You you understand that you're.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
Gonna do the delay. It's set you up and you
let her down there.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
I know, because then I'm like, oh, you're picking on
him again.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
It happens anyway.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
But you were on Gong Watch. You just introduced the gong.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
People definitely weren't thinking that when you just told the
story about how you ordered the gong.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
I ordered the gong for the show because there are
times when there's some bad takes or somebody screws up.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
Line was a terrible take.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
They should show Kaitlin Clark looking like she's uncomfortable and injured.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
That's why, wait, you do this.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Nobody will use an injury to you know, his advantage,
like remember the planner fashion hoess oh, still not away?
And then you got hurt playing whiffleball. How long you're
still recovering? You haven't played another whiffle ball.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
I got the couple, I went to the doctor and
we were talking about Tommy John. Thankfully it didn't go
to that point, but they were X rays taking there's
some kind of ligament swelling.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
You are the softest.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
I tried the icy hot.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
I tried stretching exercise that wasn't working. I thought like
I was going to the knie from a whiffleball swing.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Okay, it's not a coincidence that you played wiffleball once
and you played really well, then you got hurt.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Now you're done. You played pickleball and you played really
well and then you got hurt.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
What is that?
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Yes, you are very I can't string two games in
e own. God, it's called soft soft.
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the NBA Finals legs is back on the program. So
who's the favorite now?
Speaker 9 (17:31):
I mean, I'm not switching from OKC being the favorite.
I understand. You know some people are starting to waver
on that a little bit, And you know, we're caught
up in this in this culture, Dan, in sports, I'm
sure you see it all the time, Like when you.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Try to talk positively about one team.
Speaker 9 (17:48):
People on the other side automatically think somehow you're slamming
their team by me saying I still think Oklahoma City
is going.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
To win the series. Take a shot at Indiana.
Speaker 9 (17:58):
I thought it would be a seven game series for
the beginning because I had so much respect for Indiana's offense.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
They definitely got loose the other night.
Speaker 9 (18:05):
It's the first time in the series they really actually
look like themselves offensively, and I think a lot of
people think, Okay, problem solved. Indiana's figured this out, They've
cracked the code, and they're good to go.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Now.
Speaker 9 (18:17):
I don't necessarily agree. I know what that Oklahoma City
defense is that I watched all year. They're gonna have
a hell of a response tonight, and then I think
they've got to make some adjustments. I think Mark Daignol
there's some things he's done so far that I haven't
agreed with in this series, and I think he's gonna
have to make some adjustments or they could be in trouble.
(18:38):
So I think that you're gonna see something different from
them offensively, and certainly the defensive pressure that we've watched
that team put on people all year. I think that's
got to be on full display tonight. They understand falling
down three to one could could lead to a dire
situation for them.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
But can you get to this point in the season
with the NBA Finals at stake and out coach the
other coach?
Speaker 9 (18:58):
Can you out coach and think that there's you know,
you're not talking about anything where it's like so obvious,
but there are going to be decisions made on lineups,
on substitution patterns, on what you run at certain times,
adjustments to coverages. Right, those are the kind of things
that I'm looking at, and I think for Dagnault, who
(19:19):
I think is, you know, one of the brightest guys
I think I've ever talked to in this league.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
I didn't agree with the decision right off the bat to.
Speaker 9 (19:25):
Go with a smaller lineup and get away from what
you differentiated yourself with against most of these teams. The
reason you got Hertenstein in the offseason was so that
you could play the two big lineup with both guys
being very versatile defensively and give teams a different look
because you got thrown around in the postseason a year ago.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
That's the whole reason you got them and now you go.
Speaker 9 (19:47):
You gave Denver all kinds of problems with that lineup,
those two guys together, and now you get to this
series and you get the Indiana Pacers, and you took
a look at him on film, and you go, you
know what, I'm kind of.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
Worried about them.
Speaker 9 (19:57):
I'm worried about our ability to get I'm worried about
our ability to cover them all over the floor, the
way they spread you out and shoot the ball. So
we're gonna adjust before the series is started. We're making
the first adjustment. It's a sixty eight win team. I
disagreed with it, and he really hasn't gone back to it.
They've only played ten minutes together the entire series, and
(20:18):
they were plus seven when they play.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Now.
Speaker 9 (20:20):
It's a very small sample size, but it's a good
sample size, and I think in he Haanda shooting something
like twenty eight percent from the field when those two
guys are on the floor together.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
So will it be more tonight. I think there's a
good chance. Will he start them again. I don't know.
Speaker 9 (20:34):
Maybe he's not gonna give in on that. Oh Cano,
I think we're better off the smaller lineup. I think
that was a mistake going in. I also think it
was a mistake last game playing caseon Wallace as much
as you've been playing him. That's eighty minutes in three games,
he's got seventeen total points.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
I know he's a good on ball defender.
Speaker 9 (20:49):
Aaron Wiggins just had eighteen points in game two, comes
back Game three, disappears, barely play him ten minutes, gets
two shots, non factor, and they're trapping Shay all over
the floor. Dan, I think that there's shots to be
had out of those traps. A higher level offensive player,
maybe he makes Indiana pay for some of that blitzing
on Shay. Instead, they had Cason Wallace who was a
(21:12):
far inferior offensive player, and so they only took twenty
two threes in the game. They get shut down offensively.
Is that another adjustment he makes. Maybe Wiggins gets more
time again after that great game. He had a game too,
and he barely saw him the other night.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Yeah, just trying to figure out. Also, Richard Jefferson brought
this up.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
It was like eight thirty to go in the fourth
quarter of the last game, and he said, look at
the body language on Indiana. They were upright at the
free throw line. Ok see was holding their shorts there this.
I mean, that's not typical in the NBA Finals where
some team looks gassed and maybe maybe that's Indiana's pace
that can you know, kind of wear you down.
Speaker 9 (21:51):
Well, it's there's no question He's right, they were gassed.
I've never seen shake Golgess. Alexander looked at fatigued. I
mean every whistle, every stoppage play. In the fourth quarter,
he bent over and grabbed his shorts and was taking
deep breaths, trying to just compose himself. He had a
play where he missed a shot and then ran back
with Siakam and they threw it ahead to Siakam and
he literally shade it.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
Didn't have the energy to even compete with him. He
just got out of the way. It was a big
play in the game.
Speaker 9 (22:16):
He let him have a layup uncontested, and it showed
again his fatigue level. I think part of it for him,
and that metrics all boarded this out. There's ways that
you can measure how heavily pressured the guy is in
a game. It was the most pressure he's ever faced
in a game in terms of distance between him and
the defender. When he caught the ball, the shortest amount
of space he's ever had on the catch, the most
pressure he's felt up the floor, an average of sixty
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five feet up the floor, pressuring him more blitzes than
he's seen traps than any other.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
Game in the postseason.
Speaker 9 (22:46):
So he had an easy way to seventy plus points
in Oklahoma City. I mean, it really wasn't easy seventy.
That's not what happened the other night. They targeted him.
Priority won two and three. He was that's the only
name on the whiteboard. We're going to figure everything else out.
If they start to beat us by giving the ball up.
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They targeted him.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
It wore him down.
Speaker 9 (23:09):
And that's what I think now they're going to see
on film and there'll be an adjustment to that and
finding ways for him to conserve a little bit more
energy while still being effective.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Tim Legler, ESPN analyst. You can see him late night
editions of Sports Center with Scott Van Pelt. I brought
this up to the dan Nets before. The amount of
energy you have when you're you know, a big time score,
whether it's Iversenter Jordan or you know Tracy McGrady, or
go down the list of every single night.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
You have to bring it.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
They're bringing their best at you. But that's really what's
amazing when you see these guys who can do it
every single night. They have to do it every single night,
and the energy it takes to put up thirty points
every single night, and that's what SGA.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Has to do.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
He has to get give you thirty three thirty four game.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
And that's why I very.
Speaker 9 (24:06):
Rarely throw out the word superstar because you just defined
what that is and that that is the simple definition.
It's every night, and it doesn't mean necessarily you're always
gonna shoot well. I mean, obviously those guys have off
nights too. But the one thing that you can say
about all the guys you just mentioned, you're gonna throw
Kobe into that list. You didn't mention Kobe like they
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they look the same every single night. Some night's more
efficient than other nights. Some nights when they're really efficient
is when they go crazy and you know they're they're
leading Sports Center because they have a forty or fifty
point game. But some nights, you know they have off nights,
but it always looks the same. It's the relentless pressure
they're applying to you. Offensively, and some guys, you know,
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they have the luxury of you know, because of the
nature of the position or the way they play.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
Some nights are a little bit more passive.
Speaker 9 (24:56):
That's why I got to draw the line, like the
superstar player, you're counted on every night to do that
because even the Knights, when you don't shoot well, the
pressure you're applying every possession is leading to other good
things for people, And you could still win games when
you don't shoot well if you're a superstar. Because you
have collapsed the defense, You've drawn extra guys to you.
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It leads to offensive rebound opportunities, it leads to open threes,
it leads to stuff for your teammates because of the
relentlessness with which you play. Very difficult to get onto
that list because very few guys have the stamina, the skill,
or the competitive will to do it every single night.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Switch topics here with the Knicks that when they fired Thibodeau,
I thought, okay, you fire him, then you must know
who you're hiring. I got the feeling that they were
going to fire him no matter what happened in the postseason.
They didn't expect to get to the Eastern Conference finals.
Therefore it looks worse. The optics are bad. But then
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it's so public of they're asking all looking for permission
to talk to all these coaches. Do they know who
they really want here?
Speaker 5 (26:07):
I mean, you know who knows? Maybe they really wanted
Jason Kidd. I don't know. If that that that seemed
to be the most the most smoke there around that one.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
If you're Jason Kidd, why would you consider that?
Speaker 5 (26:20):
I wouldn't. I mean, I don't know. I mean that
that's I'd have a hard time making the argument of
why you would.
Speaker 9 (26:25):
And it's other than other than I guess the biggest
one would be, Man, can you imagine being the guy
that coaches the team in that city that finally gets
it done for the first time in fifty plus years
in that market with a fan base like that city
that loves basketball.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
You're finally the guy.
Speaker 9 (26:45):
It's just like Jalen Brunson if he's if he's on
that team and they're able to do it, what that's
gonna feel like for Jalen Brunson Where he has sends
to like in terms of how he's viewed in all
time New York Athletes like I guess that that challenge,
you know Dallas has on that long ago that they
won it.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
But I'm with you.
Speaker 9 (27:04):
I mean, look, I don't know when Kyrie's coming back.
That's a big part of the equation for next season,
assuming he makes it back at some point, maybe it's
the following year, Cooper Flagg's second year. She's got Anthony Davis,
Kyrie recovered at that point, and Cooper flag in his
second year. Who I think is they can't miss star.
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Give me that situation. I'd rather have that situation than
than than the next. But look to your point, then
you can't all that stuff getting out and us knowing
all of that. So you know, who knows you might
have called five other guests today before me, and you're
gonna pitch it like I'm the guy you wanted all along.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
Like I don't really know that.
Speaker 9 (27:45):
I think it was just three or four okay, But
now and that is so like, this is a guy
we wanted all along. That's what they're gonna have to
do at a press conference now, whoever's sitting there, No, No,
this is who we wanted it was. You know, the
Lakers had that kind of that embarrassing situation in a
way with Danny Hurley, Right, that open recruitment of Danny Hurley,
you didn't get them, and then you.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
Go to Jaji Rettick.
Speaker 9 (28:06):
But see for Jjiurettick didn't care because he wanted to
coach so badly and it's the Lakers. He wasn't going
to care that he wasn't necessarily the first choice in
this situation.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
Now, who are you going to get?
Speaker 9 (28:16):
Knowing that they pursued I don't know a handful of
other candidates and you finally.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
Settle on a guy. So it's going to be interesting
how it plays out.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Yeah, I just don't see Danny Hurley in the NBA,
not because he doesn't have the coaching acumen, but just
the losses when you only lose a handful of games
in college and then you can lose a handful of
games in a week or two week period.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (28:42):
Well, the other thing is Dan you know, he's a
hell of a coach. He coaches hard. You can't coach
that hard in the NBA. I mean, you just can't
coach those guys like that. And now would he be
able to adjust to that and he'd have to. He'd
have to because that's just it's too long of a
season to kind of have that level of in your
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face intensity every day would would be difficult to manage
in the NBA. There's no question the guy's a hell
of a coach, and and look at times they need
you need to coach guys hard in the NBA. If
you don't, I think you're gonna get You're gonna get
run over as an NBA coach. But but there's got
to be an adjustment to it and the volume of it,
and and how frequently you do that. I think the
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guy could probably pull it off. I don't I mean
his name, I haven't really heard his name yet associated
with this. It seems like if he was gonna take one,
this would be the one, though, just based on where
he's kind of been his whole life and that part
of the country and you know, being a Jersey kid,
it seems like that would make a lot of sense.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
But I haven't heard his name quite yet. Pop up.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
If you could have a rematch of an NBA finals
in history, same players that they run it back, what
would you take?
Speaker 5 (29:59):
Without question, it would be the eighty fourth Celtics Lakers series.
Speaker 9 (30:03):
There's no question, because and you're probably for the same
reason as me. I mean, Bird is my favorite athlete
of all time.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
You know I wasn't.
Speaker 9 (30:11):
I had no geographical connection to the Boston Celtics. I
was a Bullets fan as a kid in the DC
Baltimore area. Elvin Hayes was my first favorite player. But
when Bird got to the league at the same time
I was good in high school. That's what I wanted
to be an NBA player because of him style of
play with the Celtics.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
I loved the Lakers too.
Speaker 9 (30:30):
Oddly enough, Magic was like my second favorite player, as
weird as that sounds, because their rivals. So the reason
I picked that one is because the Celtics lost that
series in seven, so let's run it back and maybe
Bird can get another title.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Weird that you would have Magic as one of your
favorite players since he passed a lot.
Speaker 9 (30:48):
That's true, but I loved playing with the guys that
played that way. Okay, that was my best friend, the
passing point guard. And by the way, by the way,
a passing point guard's best friend is a shooter.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Because I'm not.
Speaker 9 (31:02):
Putting it down a whole lot, so you're gonna get
the assist. There's no there's no, there's no gray area
with me. It's going up, so you'll get the dime.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Okay, career high assist in a game for Tim Legler.
Let's go round the room, Todd, what do you think
Legler's career high and assist.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
I'm gonna say I'm not even sure.
Speaker 10 (31:21):
I know.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
I'm gonna say seven or eight, probably.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Todd, I'm gonna go eight, all right, Seating, I'm gonna
go seven. All right, Marvin time, I'm gonna Paul, you
have the answer, I do.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
I'm gonna go nine.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (31:42):
Wizards versus Nets February nineteenth, nineteen ninety six dished out
seven assists.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
Oh hey, by the way, that would check. Okay, listen
to this I got I didn't even had no idea
that was the case. I certainly didn't know that game,
but I do know this.
Speaker 9 (31:58):
That was my second game back after missing almost a
year when I tore three ligaments.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
In my knee. I played.
Speaker 9 (32:07):
I came back All Star weekend, I got cleared to play.
I defended my three point Oh no, ninety six.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 9 (32:13):
I thought you'd ninety seven. Ninety six, No, no, no.
That was the midst of my best year in the league. Yes,
I had just won the three point shootout.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Yeah, Tim had eight.
Speaker 7 (32:21):
Two weeks before that, Tim had a triple single that night,
nine rebounds, seven assists.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
I had a lot of triple singles.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Did you where are your trophies for the three point
shooting contest?
Speaker 9 (32:33):
It's just in my in my office, and yeah, in
my office at all. It has a tiny little defect
in the back. No one knows about this till now,
a tiny little dent because when you win it and
you get the.
Speaker 5 (32:49):
Trophy and now you got to fly out.
Speaker 9 (32:51):
I was playing out of San Antonio to meet up
with the team on the road, so I'm carrying it
on the plane. What else are you going to do
with that thing? So I'm literally carrying the trophy. Had
to put it on the little conveyor through security. It
disappeared for a second. I was kind of worried about it.
I was looking in the other end, like wait for
that thing to pop out, and it banged something along
the way, and I said, there's a tiny little.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
Den in the back of it.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
But Eddie George, I think, had to put his heisman
through TSA and they and they broke a finger.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
Did they break it?
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Yeah, they did.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (33:22):
I always look at it like this, there's a tiny
little det in that it's it's it's perfect because it
kind of sums.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
Up my career at little at the beginning, but eventually
I got there. Right.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Uh, have fun tonight.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
Thanks for joining us man, looking forward to it.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Dan. Thanks Tim Lagler, ESPN, NBA n let's you'll be
with the Scott Bean Peasey postgame coverage NBA Finalsy.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
He could occasionally dish it out, but he was just
a shooter. He was a spot up shooter.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Still offended that he thought that he could beat me
left handed from three point range.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
I shot right handed.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
He shot.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
We're in Detroit. It's one of the most offended comments
I've ever heard. Then he said I could beat you
left handed, and I was like, God, dang, we didn't shoot.
We shot around. But he does believe that he could
beat me left handed. Yes, Martin, I think he's offended
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that you even tried to challenge him.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
No, No, I didn't challenge him.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
I challenged Greg Anthony because Legs and I are just shooting,
and this is before we're going to do a Sports
center hit and Greg Anthony comes out, and I was
basically saying to Greg Anthony, you don't shoot where we shoot.
Greg was a fifteen to eighteen footer, and I'm like,
we're shooting out here. And then I just remember Legs
was like, you know, I could beat you left handed,
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and I'm like, man, that hurt. And then I thought, well,
I'm not going to play him, because if I lose
to a guy who's right handed beats me left handed,
there goes my aura. Yes, Paul, how much.
Speaker 7 (34:57):
Time would Legler be practicing left handed threes?
Speaker 5 (35:01):
No idea.
Speaker 7 (35:02):
That seems like a big waste of time.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Yeah, until that moment where you need to shoot left
handed again, right up until it wasn't Yeah, play the
long game. Yeah, he knew one day some talking hairdo's
going to go out there and he's gonna say I
can beat you left handed.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
All right, we'll take a break. We're back after this.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
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Speaker 3 (35:28):
APP Final Hour.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
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we have a little pesto as well.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Who has it better than we do?
Speaker 11 (36:15):
No?
Speaker 5 (36:15):
No body pull question?
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Final hour the program, seat and at least final hour
on this Friday. How superstitious are you have a hard
time saying superstitious?
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Extremely? A little, not at all?
Speaker 4 (36:28):
Seventy four percent are a little? Friday the thirteenth, I
wonder way you'd just be a little and not extremely.
Maybe it's little.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Things that you're superstitious superstitious around.
Speaker 7 (36:41):
Yes, can you be sports stitious and not superstitious like
I wouldn't be bothered if I broke a mirror or
walked under a ladder, wouldn't bother me at all. But
if a team I love is playing well, and I'm
sitting in a certain seat in my house, I'm staying
in that seat. Yeah, and vice versa. Yes, so that's sports.
I guess it's superstition.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Yes, yeah, I would think so. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
What else do you have?
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Seten?
Speaker 4 (37:06):
Uh? We also put up there. This one is very
much about Todd Fritz. Would you rather be uh physically
fragile or mentally disturbed?
Speaker 3 (37:20):
It's one or the other.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
I'm surprised that so many people I'm not sure why
I'm surprised about this, but that so many people are
choosing physically fragile rather than mentally disturbed. Well, I don't
think anybody wants to be disturbed. You could be mentally disturbed,
but that means that you're super fit. How about your
crazy end in good shape? Or you can be have
all of your mental faculties that are perfectly intact, but
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you're very fragile physically.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
What about mentally physical uh or mentally or physically soft?
How about if we just did that, it could be
mentally soft or physically soft or what it would people
say about that? Any other poll questions for the final
hour this weekend. We can update that if you'd like it,
we can all right? Would you rather be mentally soft
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or physically soft?
Speaker 5 (38:07):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Todd might be both?
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Eight seven seven three DP show email address dpat dan
Patrick dot com Twitter handle a DP show Nick and Irvine.
Hi Nick, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 12 (38:22):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (38:22):
Dan?
Speaker 11 (38:23):
I got three comments for you. First of all, back
in the eighties, when you could go to Hollywood Park
for horse racing and there's thirty thousand and forty thousand people,
I was into the ponies, and I was on a
bad streak, and I was trying everything. I'll never forget
my dad when I told him what was going on,
and you know, I was trying to put together numbers
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and trying to, you know, do all these different things.
And he said, and he looked me right now, the
most earnest thing he ever said, and he said, son,
don't forget these two pieces of advice. Number one, it
is bad luck to be superstitious, and number two, never
bet on a horse that eats. And ever since then,
I have never lost again at the track. I want
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to tell you about my trigger grilled. It is true
that you can, uh, you can adjust the trigger grill
with your phone. It's an incredible feature. But Todd, I
think you would like this. You can, it's a little
known fact. You can also call the trigger grill and
you can talk to each individual Patty or chicken wing
or whatever and that.
Speaker 5 (39:27):
Thank you.
Speaker 11 (39:30):
You have.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Thunder Pacers Game four, okay, see favored by six. The
Oilers came back. They were down three to nothing and
then they win five to four and overtime. And this
is how the game winner sounded.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Breaking free is try Toddle to.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
The deck.
Speaker 10 (39:47):
Play on try Suddle This.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Time this series put a spot o t Winter of
the Playoffs Final Star the ten five.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Over the man on the Call, Jack Michaels, Edmundton Oiler's
radio play by Playboys, how's the throat today?
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Jack Dan?
Speaker 10 (40:15):
I'm okay, you know what I And I don't know
whether that triggered you, because nineteen years ago you and
Keith were doing a Homer call the week and you
had me on twice in two weeks, Alaskan Vegas and
Alaskan Fresno. And I remember you being fascinated with it
being the East coast Hockey League. You know, championship series
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involving Alaskan Fresno.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
Great to have you back. You had a great seat
for this with your team down three to nothing, what
were you thinking?
Speaker 10 (40:48):
Well, to be honest with you, that's where the Oilers
seem to thrive. I don't know what it is, but
this club is not content with prosperity. It loves to
dig itself a hole. Whether it's early in the season
they started zero to three this year, two nine and
one last year, or whether it's in early in games.
And you just had a feeling that if Edmonton got won,
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the momentum con turn in a hurry. We've got two
great teams, Dan, I would say through four finals, this
Stanley Cup Final is shaping up as the best in
the history of the sport. And I honestly don't you
know that's not an exaggeration. These two teams are clearly
the best in the National Hockey League. They found an
extra year, and you know Florida is a worthy champion.
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This is now a best of three with two on
Edmonton's hall ice. But I don't think anyone can be
called a favorite.
Speaker 11 (41:40):
Not right now.
Speaker 10 (41:40):
We've had the two latest game time goals in the
history of the final. A week apart.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Also, when we talked about this last week, how important
is the Cup to Canada?
Speaker 3 (41:51):
We know it's important to Edmonton. Is Canada rooting for Edmonton?
Speaker 10 (41:57):
Well, I think for years. I think for years Edmonton
has been kind of everyone's second favorite team. Is you know,
passionate fan bases exist in you know, Toronto and you know, so,
I don't know whether the Leafs are more of a
polarizing figure than some of the other clubs. Edmondton is
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more you know, I mean Gregson, Right, it's no one
really hates you or S except maybe those who reside
in Calgary. Right. It's a bit of a national team
from that perspective, in the sense that when you live
in Canada, there's no middle round with the Torontomly, Edmondston
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is a little bit different in the sense, well, you know,
I can live with Edmonton winning the Cup.
Speaker 11 (42:46):
I can't live with Lease winning the Cup.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
When you go to overtime, you know that the game
is on somebody's stick there as the play by play voice.
How do you approach that knowing that it can end
very quickly?
Speaker 10 (43:03):
Absolutely, no divergence, No tangents, no you know, thoughts to
come to mind. Just button it up and call the game.
And you have to do that really with Connor McDavid anyway,
I as you can probably sell them thrown the gab.
I need to button it up all the game because
they could end at any moment. And as you saw,
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I mean Leon dress one handed shot that gets a
tear of off a kneecap and goes five hole on Lebroski,
not your typical you know ot winner. You just have
to be ready and you can again go off on
some random spot for nineteen seventy one.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
You are a professional at doing this. We just heard
your call with the game winning goal in overtime. Seaton O'Connor,
who works on my show. He we love Leon dry Sidle.
We only bring his name up in June, but you
know he's always scoring big goals. I want you to
grade Seaton's call of Leon dry Sidel's game winner last night.
Speaker 10 (44:15):
How you know. I guess what I say is I
need a little crowd noise. It's not completely you got
a little bit of a phone ball situation. The good
thing is his voice not cracked. I will say that.
You know he didn't sound like a guy points her
ado left.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
And you know you play by play guys in hockey,
it's like you're trying to cram words in and then
all of a sudden it just is all kind of jumbled,
and then it's try ford in over time.
Speaker 10 (44:53):
That's why I went to the overtime call the way
I did. I figure that was the one word that
everyone would understand.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
Hey, great to talk to you again, and good luck
with this next game on Saturday. Thank you, Jack, Dan, I.
Speaker 10 (45:08):
Really appreciate you having me on. And Keith below.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
Jack Michaels Edmondton owner's radio play by play voice, also
does TV as well, fifteen years doing radio.
Speaker 5 (45:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
We had him on for Homer Call of the Week
nineteen years ago and Keith Oberman has stayed in touch
with him.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
That was the all hour two Yeah, right in the
middle of the Yeah the show, Yeah, radio show. The
Homer Call of the Week was fun. Homer Call of
the Week was fun.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
Brought to you by James in New Mexico. Hi James,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 12 (45:43):
Hey Dan, thanks for taking a call. So I'm part
of your younger demographic and an NBA casualist. I guess
I would say, and I was curious, so, you know,
not knowing too much about the past eras of players
who would be the compst today's game. It could be
like play style. It's hard because there's two different games,
(46:04):
but like who they were in the media, like who
is Berkeley then today? And I guess the obviously want
to be Jordan Lebron, but like try to educate myself
more on who they were to the game and like
in the media back then to today's game, like some comps.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
There, Huh, I don't think there aren't comps for those three.
I mean Charles was unique. I mean he's more unique now.
But as a player, you're just you couldn't believe that
somebody who's six' five is going Against shaq and wasn't
afraid Of Shack. Jordan you're watching and you're going, That
i've never seen anybody like. That and then Even, lebron
(46:42):
somebody that, big who's able to do all of these
things because we thought we saw that With. Magic now
you're Seeing lebron do that but also be a great
scorer and now forty thousand points. LATER i think a
lot of times we try to do those. Comparisons you,
know that guy reminds me of there's so many unique
(47:03):
great athletes that there aren't comps every white player who can.
Shoot you, know he kind of reminds me Of Larry. Bird, no,
no he doesn't anybody who's six's nine at point. Guard you,
Know heven reminds me Of magic just because he's six'.
Nine sga you're hearing the, you know he's Kinda Like. Michael,
(47:24):
jordan no. He's, not no he's a, great scorer.
Speaker 5 (47:30):
But He's Not.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
Michael jordan it's just different. Style points jordan gave, You
that barkley gave You. That lebron, you know there's Nobody Like,
steph curry, no one and you, can, say oh you
know it kind of reminds Me Of. Steph Curry caitlin
clark might remind You Of. Steph curry that's the closest
(47:52):
COMP that i. Would have but, You Know, Klay thompson
i've never seen somebody so economical at his peak of
not needing a dribble and that famous game where he
had like nine dribbles the. Entire, Game, yeah.
Speaker 5 (48:10):
Marvin respect, his hand he had, Eleven dribbles so.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
Eleven, dribbles, okay yeah he's not beating you off. The dribble,
you Know if i'm, GUARDING him i know he's not
going to beat me off, the dribble but he is
if you let, him shoot he's. Making it and that's
another one of those guys when you're watching guys who
were in college and then, You, go wow that guy's
going to be. A pro he's going to, be great
(48:33):
and then he doesn't, become that and then you see
somebody else and, you, go, oh man he Went To.
WASHINGTON state i REMEMBER what i Remember Watching, washington state
and the only REASON why I Remember klay thompson is
because of, His, father MICHAEL who i know that. WAS
it i Remember Watching gary Payton at OREGON and, i
(48:55):
said that guy's going to be a. Great pro But
Then brent barry is on. That team and if you
would have, said, that dude there's gonna win the slam,
Dunk contest i'd, be.
Speaker 3 (49:02):
Like huh.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
You see these guys and then you don't. Envision Them
steve Nash At. SANTA clara i WATCHED and i, was
like this little guy with a bad haircut and he.
Is entertaining never would have thought anything other. Than that
that's why when you had these scouts when, they, go
hey we're taking, this guy and, you, go man who?
(49:25):
Saw that or when you have scouts and they go
we're taking this guy and, you go.
Speaker 5 (49:28):
What did you see in?
Speaker 2 (49:29):
That guy what did you See In Michael olowod Candy
Or anthony bennett or some of these, other players and,
you're like, Huh, yes, Martin.
Speaker 5 (49:39):
Yeah klay thompson his. FIRST team i did not see.
That Coming donovan mitchell was another guy where it was
like the undersize going Out. Of louisville, they, know wow
they picked him. Pretty. HIGH yeah i, did not not
saying they weren't very good, college PLAYERS but i didn't.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
EXPECT this i don't Even Remember Donovan mitchell LOUISVILLE because
i felt like all of their guards were like six.
Speaker 3 (50:01):
To one but they were an. Unbelievable team
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