June 21, 2023 • 50 mins
In this episode, Poundcake welcomes back Maverick! They partake in a round of #PoundcakeHotakes, discussing everything from Shawn Mendes v. Justin Bieber, Logan & Jake Paul buying fights, T. Swift concert shaming, & money management!
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This is the true story story aboutNo. One major who rents a room
in a house, can't rub twonickels together and chose to have his life
take. Find out what happens whenhe stops speaking logically and says something stupid.
This? What is this? Thisis the pound Take Podcast. Hello
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everybody, welcome to the pound TakePodcast. I'm your host Pound Take,
and I have a very special guestwith me today. Maverick is back.
Let's freaking go. What's up everybody? Yep, We're in the big studio
today and so we're gonna have somefun. And so how have you been
doing? We are going to doa life update because I haven't real I
mean, we've kept in contact,but you got a whole wife and a
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whole kid. So tell me aboutthat first. Okay, So I appreciate
the interest in my life you do. I'm really interested. I see all
your cute little pictures on Instagram andit's just it's crazy to me that.
I mean, I just look atyou as like a young man, like
guys that I went to college with, and it's just so I'm like,
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you have a whole family. That'sall y'all? Do it? You start
young. I appreciate it. Well, I am still a young guy.
I'm only twenty five. Actually,I have a birthday this Sunday. I'm
turning twenty six, and oh,happy early birthday, thank you. I
guess the only thing that really changesat twenty six is I get kicked off
my parents' health insurance. So that'sI've been there. Sorry is it only
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gets worse from here. But asfar as my family goes, so I
always want to give them a shoutout. My beautiful wife, Tehila,
my beautiful little baby Tory. Ilove both my girls to death and they're
so cute. So I work fromhome a lot of the time, and
I have Tory with me. Soto say I get nothing done is an
unders just because she's so huge,takes up so much my time. You
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are a hands on dad, totallyhands on dad. My wife goes,
She's like, I don't understand whyyou can't get stuff done during the day.
I'm like, for me, listen, for a guy to watch a
kid, it's almost like I'm babysittingfor a mom or for like a girl.
It's so natural I have. Yeah, you have that maternal instinct.
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Yeah, I have a sister inlaw. She's fifteen. It's so natural
for her to just you know,pick up on every little queue. For
me, I'm like sweating to figureout, like, okay, is it
time for a bottle? Is itlike your nap? I don't know what
to do. I'm freaking out.When when you decided to have a child,
did all of the females and yourfamily kind of weigh in on like
what you should do? Were theyall hands on just like you were?
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Like does she have lots of auntiesand cousins that they stay with or is
it pretty much just you and Tehila. It's funny you say that. Okay,
Um, so they still are.They're still very hands on. But
my mother told my wife, Ithink like three months after us being married,
She's like, I can't wait forgrandchildren, and you know, we
just wanted to take it slow.Turns out we caught baby fever really early,
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so we had our little Tory,and thank god, everyone is happy
and healthy. But we have somethingreally cool. There's an app. I
think it's just called like family Album. It's basically social media for your kids.
Oh that's cool. So we uploadall of our favorite pictures and videos
of Tory and like special moments,and it's by invite only, so you
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know, my parents, my wife'sparents, all of our aunts, great
aunts, great grandparents, whoever isaround and interested, they can check it
out. They can view the picturesand comments on them. And there's always
something going on on the app wherepeople are commenting or they're like, oh
my gosh, she now his sixteenthYeah that I mean that would be handy
for me and my family because Imake my a Christmas gift that I knocked
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it out of the park. Idid a birthday gift and a Christmas gift
the same thing but different. AndI'm going to tell you why. I
have a friend of mine he's actuallya fan of the show. He's a
fan of the Alan Cock Show.And he one year gifted us coasters with
our faces on him and like thelogo and everything. And I was like,
oh, this is so cool.I wonder if I can get you
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know, my mom's face and youknow my brother. And so she one
a year for her birthday, Igot a picture of me and my mom
together. I think we were onlike the Corona Cruz and got that on
a coaster and I got her mybrother and my and myself on there,
and it was she has like alittle phrase that she has, so I
got that on a coaster, andthen when my cousin had her child,
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I got those on a coaster.So there's little coasters all around my family's
houses that I gifted them and isfrom a guy. His name is Roman,
and he that's like his thing.He goes to these different comic cons
and makes these I get. Imean, they're novelties, but they're actually
really neat that I don't even wantto like use them, because you know,
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they're valuable. So my mom wantedme to have a kid just so
she could be a hands on grandmother, and I'm like, well, it
might take a little extra time.So I totally get the whole family dynamic
thing. And yeah, that thatapp seems pretty awesome. It's so interesting,
you know, typically at least theway it seems today. So for
those who don't remember in the previousepisodes, I do come from religious background.
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So I got married at twenty three. My wife was twenty one,
which is normal in our community.But it seems like the trend is much
more like later twenties thirties. Thereare people even getting married in their forties.
And so my mom, actually myparents, we weren't always religious and
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it's just me and two brothers,and I don't think my mother was like
expecting grandkids for a while. She'slike, oh, man starts all over.
No no, so she bitched,like all of our old clothes,
all of our old toys. There'sobviously no crib anymore. But my in
laws, who have been religious fora while, they held on to everything.
So whenever we go to my inlaw's house, they have like a
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crib ready to go if we need, and toys that my wife used to
play on, which is crazy.Meanwhile, my mother is so excited about
being a grandma. She she tookand I think it's my old bedroom and
she turned it into like a nursery. So there's a crib and there's a
there's like a guess bad in achanging table and toys and clothes and a
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closets. A little much. Yeah, I mean my mom she's essentially the
same way, but she's very she'svery crafty. She'll just come up with
some I'm like, I didn't evenknow you had a crib, Like,
where where did this come from?So it's just been in the basement for
years. I just never reused it, like she was waiting for a grandshot.
And then my brother had his son, and I have a bunch of
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well I consider his girlfriend's kids likemy step nieces. And then I have
a bunch of little cousins who Iconsider my nieces. So there's kids all
over. She's just waiting to seemy offspring, and so that's gonna be
a whole thing in itself. Butwhat was the name of the app you
said? I think it's called familyAlbum. Family Album. Okay, I
have to look into that, butyeah, my mom's a sucker for stuff
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like that. But the whole familything. Since the last time I saw
is this the first This has tobe the first podcast you've done with me,
the first time back on the podcastsince twenty twenty three, right since
twenty I think, so, Iwas gonna say, because this is like
your third time appearing. The firsttime was over zoomed. That was like
during COVID, I feel like,and then you came and we were in
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the other studio. That was likelast year or sometime, and then now
you're here now Since the last timeyou saw me, I got into a
relationship and we were discussing. Youwere saying, like, in your community,
things move really fast. My momwas already considering. She's like,
oh, well, I know you'removing out of your apartment. Why don't
you move in with your boyfriend?And I'm like, we started. We
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have been dating less than two months. So how long did you date your
now wife before you guys got tothat phase? Give me some advice on
a healthy, happy relationship. Firstof all, congrats to you. How
exciting that is. How long?He's an older guy though, I mean
not that older is bad, buthe's older than me. He's forty four,
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I'm thirty. And we met througha dating We went through Facebook dating.
Yeah, something wrong with that?Yeah, yeah, I'm into it.
It's just I feel like he's ona different wavelength than I am.
He's far more established than I am. But so my wife and I dated
almost two years, and we datedthrough we dated through COVID, and we
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dated long distance. So we hadsome really strenuous situations I guess, not
necessarily between us, but like aroundus, and we were able to overcome
that. As far as a relationshipgoes, obviously, you know the basics.
You gotta be loyal, you gottayou gotta be as romantic as possible.
Cody, I learned the hard way. I'm not romantic at all.
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I think I'm learning that too.I can, I can like plan stuff,
but I'm not romantic. So mywife told me, she goes,
you know, you're not like soromantic, like so and so, like
whatever. Another friend of ours,oh, I was guessing. She brought
up her X. I was like, damn. I was like, wow,
no, not an X. Butand I'm thinking about it, and
I'm like, hang on a second. That kind of hit me in my
pride. I want to be alittle romantic too. So I've been making
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efforts and whenever I make an effort, I go, see I could be
romantic. So like I spread outlike flower pedals, like on the table
and one time on the bed,and I did um. I got her
a cake one time, and Itry to regularly get her flowers, maybe
like once a week, just littlethings here and there. And every time
I point out, see I couldbe romantic. And then I finally asked
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her, after like a couple weeksof doing this, I go, am,
I still keep asking and not romantic. I so like, I have
to measure myself somehow, and shegoes, yeah, I guess you're a
little more romantic. I guess that'sthat's literally like in my relationship, I'm
learning so much because the other relationshiprelationships that I was in, they were
all very short. But I knewvery quickly that it wasn't going to work.
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So I was like, I don'twant to waste someone's time. If
I'm not someone's person, I wouldrather than find out sooner than later so
we could both move on with ourlives. But this one is a bit
different. It just seemed like itgot very like our intentions up front were
the same and we wanted the samething, so it was just it just
kind of moved very fast. Andhe is very thoughtful in aspect that he
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was in a relationship for many manyyears, like almost two decades and it
had ended like a couple of yearsago, and he every time he comes
over to my house he brings somethinglike he whether it be like food to
stock my fridge, he knows theway to my hurt food, or he
has brought flowers two separate times,and they both have died by the next
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time he came over, so Iwas like, wow, like I he's
very romantic and thoughtful. But Iwas like, stop giving me flowers because
they'll they'll die. Like I'm justnot at home enough. They don't get
enough sunlight the way my apartment isangle. So it's just like it's a
whole thing. But I'm working onit, and I hope he is patient
with me. But I'm I'm likingthe new, you know, relationship,
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pound Cake. I'm a little beefier. I've been working out now and then
I have more hair, so that'sa change in me. But the one
time, I know we don't talkthat often, but whenever there is a
Justin bieber story, I think ofyou for some reason, just because you're
such a Justin bieber Stand, AndI just don't get it, because I
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get why you're a Justin bieber Stand, but I don't know why a lot
of guys, Like if a guywere to say he was really into Usher,
people would look at him funny.Or if he was really into what
was another male singer that's like big, I don't know Jason Derulo. Yeah,
Like if a guy said, ohI love Jason Derulo, you would
look at him funny, but forwhatever reason, Justin Bieber gets a pass,
and I don't know. I thinkI have a revel I think I
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had a revelation because between the two, I think he's not no longer my
favorite Canadian. Who's your favorite Canadian? Mendes Okay? I love Shawn Mendes,
Okay, an interview you have tosee with from Apple Music. I
think Zane Lowe. Maybe he's gotthis cool podcast, this cool YouTube series.
And I saw a side of Seanthat was so cool. He was
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just like content and calm and confident. I think that's how he is all
the time. Though, so cool. He they you know, them being
both teenage heart throbs, they dovery separate works like they're. Justin Bieber
is is way more edgier than ShawnMendes. Shawn Mendez is not that dude,
And I think that. And Ifeel bad saying this because it sounds
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very um shallow of me, butI really do think it's true. Justin
Bieber had to go through a lotto be where he is. He's not
only good looking, he can singhis ass off. I'm sure he probably
writes him producers and all that,but he had a lot of controversies and
he wasn't afraid of being hated oryou know, he took a lot of
hits in the media. That isnot Sean at all. Sean. I
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I feel like he would crumble.I don't. I don't feel like he
would be the type of guy topiano mop bucket or uh you know,
drag race or be could you magazShaan Mindez being nude all over the magazines,
Like, I don't see Sean doingthat. And I think because of
that, people look at him.They have to handle him with kid gloves.
People still look at him as akid, and he's sensitive, and
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they're not talking too much about hisrelationship with Camilla Cabello, and they're not,
you know, talked about him datinga fifty year old although she was
hot, his fifty year old doctor. And his music is not the way
it used to be. They wereit was. He was a chart topper
and now his last album, Ididn't hear anything about it, and his
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tour got canceled. But I willstill tolerate him because he's so good looking,
and they'll put him in a movie. He had that Little cart Too
again, a kid's movie. Hewas voicing a crocodile and le crocodile,
so they'll put him in something.But I just two different careers. But
he's still my favorite because he's helooks like a model, and he has
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the voice of an angel. Sothat's my thing. So I love Sean
Mendez maybe just as much as youdo. Let's go back to Biber for
a second. He doesn't exactly getthe pass you make it out to be.
Like you said, if someone said, oh, I'm obsessed with Jason
Derulo or Adam Levine, you wouldyou would get You look at that guy
kind of funny, like where areyou? Okay? People do get but
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but like people give jess a Biberbut like you who wear Drew, anybody
could wear his clothing line and noone think anything about it, or you
could, you know, say,if you say I love the Babes,
people will be like, oh,yeah, I love Jessi Bieber too.
It's he is he does get thatpassed. I don't changed. It's so
here's my I have a bunch oftheories on Biber. But you can always
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consider me your personal Beaver afficionado.Whenever you hear news, definitely think of
me. Please the best compliment youcan give me is that I remind you
of him, because it's a littlebit you will be on my news feeding
you and your wife will have hisclothing line. I'm like, oh my
god, give it a rest,getting like I'm just gonna and then after
that, the algorithm's nothing but freakingJustin Bieber. This like, I'm like,
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where did all this Justin Biebers comefrom? And it's like you tagged
his clothing line and one of yourpictures or something. So as as far
as Bieber goes, he shifted gearsa lot, and you know, he
went through a bunch of different abunch of different phases. Where he started
out he was like this adorable littlepreteen, and then he turned into a
teenager and then kind of like arebellious teenager. And then he fell off,
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fell off the grid for a littlebit, and then came back.
And then he came back and foundreligion. And now, you know,
you watch interviews throughout that whole timelinefrom when he was fourteen fifteen until now,
it almost seems like he's trying tobecome as normal as possible. Now
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normal is like, in quotes,like like a typical person, like a
non celebrity and normalist, normal asone could be with the status and fame.
And it seems that way. AndI don't know why, but part
of me really loved when he waslike you didn't really know what you were
going to get from him, becausehe was like a little rebellious, like
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I loved when he would always walkaround in sunglasses like that to me was
my favorite phase of him. Butobviously I can relate to his religious journey
and everything. But he's got areally beautiful marriage right now with Hailey Baldwin.
Well, yeah, he has abeautiful marriage, but she again,
she's gone through a lot with thewhole stilly. I can't believe that's still
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a thing. And I don't wantto make this whole thing about Justin Bieber,
but to your point, I feellike Justin Bieber can be quote have
a normal life because he had thatpublic death, if you know what I
mean, Like he had that image. He shed it like most teen stars
do. Miley's Hiris did it.And that's why I'm saying, Sean Mindez
is never going to find peace untilhe has that public death because people will
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see him as that that, youknow, sixteen year old that was on
vine, so he needs he needsto have that. But so this kind
of ties into Justin Bieber a littlebit. I wanted to get you here
because I think you're very intelligent andI want to know your opinion on certain
things. So I'll give you around of poundcakes hottakes, And this one
kind of ties into Justin Bieber.When I back in the day, I
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got to go see his Purpose tour. Oh did you really? I didn't
pay for the dikes, but yeah, someone my friend was like a superstand
and she got like pit tickets andshe like grabbed his foot while he was
like on stage like that type ofwas that here in Cleveland? This was
here in Cleveland. It was theyear. It was twenty sixteen, the
year that we won the championship.So it was a big deal. And
I understand how big concerts are,Like, I understand why people want to
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go out, understand the excitement ofseeing your favorite star live his concert.
Honestly, the next week I sawhe did Madison Square Garden and the energy
was a little different. But againI think he was exhausted. But I
understand how concerts make people feel.In the excitement behind him. That being
said, I feel like people concertshame. I feel I feel like people
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concert shame. And one of hisrivals. The only people that could really
top him in like record sales wouldbe Beyonce and Taylor Swift, and they
both happen to be on tour rightnow. So what do you think about
people ticket shaming? Because I feellike it's a status symbol. When you
get to these big, expensive concerts, you know it shows one you can
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afford to go to. You're you'retaking pictures there, so you let everyone
know that you can go. Uwould you is there an artist out there
justin Bieber included? Would you payfifteen hundred dollars to see him? Or
anyone else for that matter. Okay, you're asking the wrong person, That's
what I'm saying. I know Iwould empty my bank account to spend five
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minutes with him. Can maybe that'sexaggerate my bucket list. I would love
to meet him and spend time withhim. He is so cool to me.
But let's talk about maybe a differentartist, Taylor Swift. I probably
wouldn't. I probably wouldn't go pastlike, I don't know, like two
hundred dollars three hundred dollars just becauseI'm not as big of a fan.
But I have spent money on concerttickets because it's a lot of fun.
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It's the most on a concert.Um. I took my wife when we
were dating. We went to gosee Carrie Underwood right here. Oh okay,
I like that. That's a goodone. That was fun. I
love Carrie Underwood. That was fun. We didn't and we didn't spend a
crazy amount. We were kind ofhigh. Came here, she came here.
I remember when she came to theCovelli Center in Youngstown. I didn't
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know she came to Cleveland. Shecame to Cleveland, and it was the
cry Pretty tour. We had ablast, I don't. I think we
spent a total of like two fiftyor something. Nothing crazy, but,
um, concerts are fun. Idon't get to go enough. Um.
I went to go see Nile Horndown at Blossom. Okay, that was
really fun. I think he's comingback to I'm actually this summer. Yeah.
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I saw Arianna Grande. I've seenUsher live. Um. Usher was
okay. He didn't perform the songsI wanted him too, So maybe it
was me, but he didn't doanything wrong. Gavin DeGraw Um, Yeah,
justin Bieber Show was okay. Thebest contract I saw it was like
Celine Dion oh Selene, that wasgreat. But yeah, I feel like
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there's like a lot of concert chaming, just like Matt Rife. Do you
know who that is? Matt?You don't like it? I didn't know.
I don't dislike him, but Ifeel like he came essentially came out
of nowhere. A lot of peopledidn't know who he was, and then
he's all over everyone's news feed.That told that's his whole stick. He
says he came out of nowhere,that puberty hit him overnight. I think
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he did because I didn't know whohe was, but he had He's very
clever in his marketing because when hestarted popping up on like my YouTube suggestions,
it was like only fans. Iwas like, oh, this,
this is a good looking guy.He has only fans and it was a
comedy special, So he's clever inthat aspect. And then after that he
was just everywhere and I'm like,who is this man? All over my
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Facebook? And everyone's like, wegotta get tickets to go see him.
I'm like why my brother? Whois he? I got him tickets to
see Kevin Hart. He messaged methe other day and he's like, Yo,
can you get me some Matt Rifetickets? And I laughed. He's
like, they're not for me,they're from my girlfriend. I'm like,
okay, but still, and I'masking for a friend. Sure to ask
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you for a friend again, MattRife. He didn't do it. He's
not doing anything wrong, and heis. It's not his fault. He's
good looking. But it's gonna bea bunch of groupie girls there. And
I feel like people are gonna go, not necessarily because they enjoy his comedy,
but they want to get tickets becauseother people didn't get the tickets,
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Like he sold out out of nowhere. When's the last time we had a
comedy a comedian that was that youngsell out tickets out of nowhere. And
he's from Ohio, So I gottaboy. He's cool. No, I
don't know. His comedy is great. I love him. I actually want
to go see him too, justbecause I've been watching all of his stuff
on YouTube, on TikTok whatever.He's great and he pushes the boundaries a
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little bit. And it's fun tosee how the crowd reacts. He has
great crowd work, fantastic this fromwhat I hear when you were talking about
that on the show the other day. Yeah, you don't usually see that,
especially if he's so young. Butyeah, I've been listening to a
lot of comedy. Actually, isthat rife? Andrew Schultz is fun to
listen to. Andrew Schultz Now he'sbeen around for a while. I like
him. He does a lot ofpodcasts he does he used to do.
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I don't know if he still doesthe Brilliant Idiots with Charlemagne, who's on
the Breakfast Club. So I dolike him. Is there anybody that you
don't like or you don't care for? And the comedy space? Comedy space
or music like I don't know necessarilyyour taste, like do you, by
the way, do you make videoson TikTok or are they just like career
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oriented videos You're not on there?Like dancing in oil or anything. I've
ever done a dance. I don'tthink I can dance. I've never tried.
At my wedding, I danced,but that wasn't really considered much.
Um No, I'm just on TikToktalking about like podcasting business stuff. Um,
I plan to talk about like fitnessand health and whatever. But um,
I just have fun on TikTok.I'm just literally playing around. But
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what my taste as far as likeculture, Um, I'm I'm definitely into
like pop and trends and stuff.Um what don't I like? Um?
I don't know. I think Ilike most. I don't like too.
I don't like things that are toogirly, Like I won't binge just listen
to Disney songs. Oh okay,Well then we're we're on opposites. Well,
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wait, there's a couple. There'sa couple, like, like there's
a song from Hercules. I likezero to Hero and I can go the
Distance or something. I don't knowthat one. Like there's a couple,
but I'm not like you go toplace. Not For a long time,
I was gonna say, I usednot that I won't. Yeah, I
love like the playoff Square. That'sthe thing that me and my boyfriend have
in common is we love Whitney Houston. And then we will go to a
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play like we saw the Tina rightbefore she passed, like the Tina Musical.
And then I'm glad we saw itbecause we had a little insight into
her life. And then like thenext week after that, she passed.
So I'm like, oh, man, um, but what a life she's
lived. Did you get into hertype of music? What type of music
did you grow up on? Igrew up on okay, so um.
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When I was probably third fourth grade, I got an iPod shuffle for Hanukkah
and it was like the little squarerectangle yahout a screen. Yeah yeah,
like a little circle clip it tolike your code or something, and you
can't pick your song. It's likeyou just shuffle yeah current. It's like
stuck in shuffle mode. So somy I didn't know any music. My
dad loaded it up with music hethought I might like, and it's all
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like seventies, eighties and nineties music. It's all music he grew up on,
basically, So that's not bad.I know all that music. That's
what I grew up on. It'sit's like, um, let's see,
it's like eight Loaf and a littleMaroon five maybe early two thousands, trying
to think like the monkeys, theBGS monkeys. I didn't I don't know
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any of those, see. Igrew up on like Earthwin, like the
R and B, like the EarthWinning Fire, Whitney Houston. She I
grew up like around the Bodyguard time. So that was like a big album
in like my household. Celendion fitin because it was like Titanic, Like
I can time stamp all these songsfrom like when I was a kid,
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and I just remember like the bigthing. So music has always been a
thing. Did you ever want tolike play an instrument or like play a
sport or I know you do wrestling, but like is that Did you have
a passion for that really young ordid you just kind of like fall into
that once you were like in highschool? Um, good question. So
I I've been learning how to playguitar for like seven years. I'm like
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still like learning to play guitar.I'm a lefty, so to find a
lefty guitar is like nearer impossible.So when I finally got one as a
gift, I loved it. Icouldn't put it down and then whatever life
happened, and now I play itwhenever I remember I have it. But
yeah, I do like to playguitar, like to try and learn like
to learn pop songs. Um There'stwo different ways to play guitar. There's
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like strumming like rhythm, and thenthere's finger picking or lead, and I
like to play lead like fingerpicking,So like when I play a guitar,
you hear the song instead of themelody. To me, that's that's fun.
But as far as sports, Ilove playing baseball. In school,
I loved playing you know, likepick up football. I was never really
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good at basketball wrestling. Obviously,I can play tennis. I'm a I'm
a I guess Jim Rat, butnot so much since I got married.
I used to be. I usedto go like twice today and have so
much fun. They're just working ondifferent parts of my body. I was
gonna say, I don't know whenyou find if you still were a super
fit guy, I would be like, well, where the hell do you
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find the time? You maybe willbe neglecting something at home, because literally
from work to taking care of akid to making sure your wife is happy,
I don't know when you These peoplewho kill you know, two or
three hours in the gym a day, like I do an hour and I'm
beat. And that's like with mycrazy ass schedule. So I don't know
how those guys do it that thatis literally their job and if they don't
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make money off of it, likebeing an influencer, Um, I don't.
I don't know what they would do. What would be the point of
having a super hot bod and notshowing it all? Yeah, I don't
know. Speaking speaking of sports though, have you been listening to the show
lately? Have you heard my sportsbreaks? Are they okay? They are
okay? So I'm not like thebiggest sport fanatic, neither am I.
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That's why they they find it hilariousthat they had me do the sports and
because it started out as like aninety second segment, so I know when
it started. I haven't listened toit recently, but it was really funny.
But you could tell me something insports and I would believe you,
just because I'm not, you know, hyper focused on it like the average
sports fan. You know, Ilook at it is that I'm more focused
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on the athletes from than the actualsport because I'm like, I don't know
if if you ask me the differencebetween like a field goal and a touchdown,
like, I don't, I don'tknow. I have no idea about
the game. But the athlete,I can tell you if he's married,
if he had his recent scandal,you know what type of car he drives.
That's the stuff I'm interested in.That's the stuff that is you know,
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that's hilarious. We do not knowthe difference between a touchdown and a
field goal. No, are theythe same thing? Yeah? Well no,
but it's the same sport. It'sfootball. So it's football, Okay.
A touchdown is when you get theball across the very end of the
field. A field goals those yellows, oh yeah, okay, okay,
well then I do know that.See I can give myself some credit.
I do know that. So whenthey say kick a field goal, that
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means it goes in between the twoposts. Right, ah, look at
me. But I think when Iwas younger, I did every every sport.
I'm actionable. I think my momjust wanted me to be active,
us me and my brother to beactive. Was the one that you that
you liked over others, so wedid. So. I did go to
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like a musician phase like I did. Get I played guitar. I did
viola for four years. I guessthat was like the longest, But that
was because that was in school thatwasn't necessarily an extra curricular. I ran
track. I did that for twoseasons. I just didn't stick. I
did karate and then I did bittywrestling, and I was actually, you
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know, if had I stuck withthat, I probably would have been okay
because I just had no interest.It just wasn't fun. But I was
good and they needed bodies at thetime. I don't know if there was
like, uh, if you havea certain amount of people, you get
some type of government money. Idon't know what it was. But they
kept telling me like, no,you should, you should do but I
don't want to do wrestling. Idon't want to. And because I think
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I was so frustrated with having todo it, and they told me I
had to stay. I just keptpinning people. I was so angry and
they're like, wow, we Andwhen they were trying to pin me,
I would get even more mad.So then I would like I could get
out of it. No one couldreally like pin me down. So I
would do these tournaments and I'm like, all right, how long do I
have to do this. It's almostlike the South Park episode where the kids
are like playing softball or they're playing, Yeah, I think they are playing
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softbare baseball, and they're like I'mgonna lose. Like, oh no,
I'm gonna lose. We're so goingdown because we don't want to do this
all summer. And that's honestly howI was like, oh you if school
ends at three, I have tobe here till five. Oh no,
this isn't gonna work. So whatabout why do This is a weird question
to ask, but how do youknow when a sport is for you?
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You can be good at it,but you might not like it, or
you may like it, you maynot be good at it. What makes
you stay in a sport you personally? So me personally is an interesting example.
I went to a high school wherethey didn't have sports. So I
was in yeshiva, which is Hebrewfor like a rabbinical college, and like
I kid you not, our schedulewas so intense that they started at seven
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thirty seven fifteen and our last classended at nine thirty. Like we had
studying all day, so there wasno extra curriculum. When I came home.
It was a boarding high school.When I came home, I would
wrestle with, you know, theteam I used to wrestle with um.
But I loved all sports, withthe exception of basketball, just because wrestlers
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and basketball players just don't really getalong, just because it's the same season.
They're very Oh it's really yeah.Oh that's something I never knew that.
I thought it was like footballers,like people who played football, And
what was it like soccer like orlike baseball, like one of the Big
three whatever was the Big three?So it was football, basketball, and
soccer or no football, basketball andbaseball. And they will all compete against
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each other because they I don't knowthey could be but uphill in the wrestling
room, coaches would threaten the wrestlersby saying, you want to go play
with the basketball players? Really yeah? And and I think it's the opposite
way too. My dad used tobe the head coach at Beechwood, which
is a city I grew up in, and at Beechwood High School, he
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made an agreement with I hope Idon't butcher the story. He made an
agreement with the head basketball coach andsaid, let's let's both both teams had
issues. Some boys were misbehaving,they weren't following the rules and was becoming
an issue. It was ruining bothsports and just for that year. And
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so my dad, the head coachof the wrestling team and the head coach
of the basketball team, said,let's switch. I'll coach the basketball players
and the basketball coach will coach thewrestlers for one day or one week or
something, and at the end,hopefully we'll scare them straight right, Hopefully
they'll whatever however this experience plays out, hopefully it'll be a learning experience.
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So my dad and the other wrestlingcoaches at the time, they put these
basketball players through a rigorous workout.Now, when I say rigorous, there
are people who wrestle in middle schoolwrestling wrestling in high school than in college.
And then let's say they joined thearmy. If you would ask them
what's more challenging, you know,training to defend our country or training in
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the wrestling room, they'll always saythe wrestling room. Why is that?
Because you wake up at four am, you go for a five hour run
to start screw that, and thenscrew that, and then you start lifting,
and then you start drilling. Andwrestling is a sport like no other.
It requires every muscle in your body. Right, if you put a
football player in a wrestling match,he's gonna get tired because it's a different
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kind of fit. It's a differentkind of fitness level that you have to
be at. So you know,going back to the story, the basketball
players were exhausted and like they werehungover trash cans, getting sick, like
they couldn't handle physically handle the wrestlingpractice. Mean, while the wrestlers were
like this is so stupid, likethis is nothing. They were like jogging
up and down the court. Theywere like, this isn't even our warm
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up for the same cardio is nojoke. And coming from someone who like
went was going consistently to a fitnessclass and then stopped for two weeks,
I'm like, oh, like yourbody like doesn't what is the right word,
not deteriorate, deteriorates, but likeit goes back to the way it
was really fast, and yeah,you have to build up your stamina again.
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Yeah, it's also the habits thatyou have. So you know,
if if your life habits are ina certain way, it'll be easier to
regress, I guess. But youknow, originally you asked, what how
I find a sport that sticks withme? There are two sports in my
life. It's wrestling and snowboarding.Yeah, that's really what it is.
I love snowboarding because I can doit. I don't really get the opportunity
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to wrestle so much anymore, butI can coach, like in a youth
club actually in Beechwood, and that'sfun. I get to work with kids
every now and again. I haven'tdone it or a bit just because you
know, life gets in the way. But I love snowboarding. I follow
snowboarding when I can, and Ilove being in the snow. I think
we've talked about it before, butI freaking love it. So those are
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my two sports. And I knowyou like amongst all other Ohio boys and
like wrestling, it's Logan and JakePaul. Now Jake Paul went into boxing
or no, he's who's in theWWE. I think that's Logan. Logan
went to WWE and then Jake Paulis still doing the boxing. Is that
like a watered down version of likewhat they were doing as wrestlers before.
(35:34):
Good question. So Logan's older,Yes, Logan is currently in WWE.
I think that's what he was bornfor. Like he's very meaning and he's
very He's got a great physique,so he looks good when when he's doing
when he's you know, wrestling soto speak, he's very good at it.
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Jake is currently boxing. He's boxingany and everyone that he can.
He's trying to prove himself. Iguess I think it's real though, or
do you think they're they're like buyingwins. Do you think he's actually beating
all these people and it's like trulyundefeated. So I do think that Jake
is fighting people who aren't necessarily legitimate. Like, for example, he fought
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a guy named Ben Askron, whois a retired MMA fighter. He is
currently very out of shape. Hehappens to have a wrestling background, and
I know him from that, likeI know about Ben Askron from wrestling.
But the fight, if I recallcorrectly, lasted like a minute. I
was gonna say, he could eitheryou could do it two ways. You
could either buy these people, likepeople like Floyd Mayweather. He Logan or
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Logan fought him, but that wasa paid for a win. He I
figured. Floyd was like, there'sno way I'm gonna wow you. I
don't care how much money you payme. I don't need the money.
You're not gonna beat me, sothey would probably just like, hey,
i'll give you some money for truth. We just want the cloud of fighting
Floyd Mayweather, so you could paysomeone off that would be one thing,
or only fight people that you knowyou could beat. And I was like,
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well that's not really a competitor.Then you're you're picking the low hanging
fruit. So if if he reallywanted, I think right now they just
want to build up this reputation ofbeing undefeated and no one's going to step
to the Logan or the Paul Brothers. But I don't think people are really
threatened by them. I don't knowbecause if someone like me who doesn't follow
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sports can see something like oh theybought that, why can't other people,
right, So I don't know ifthey are. I do think Jake is
trying to prove himself. Logan kindof stepped away from boxing a little bit,
and I think he found his rhythmin WWE. But Jake does take
it seriously and he's trying to buildthe sport which he is. He's opening
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up like these youth clinics all aroundthe world. I think he's calling them
boxing bullies and it's great. It'staking kids off the street and into a
gym. I think it's a verynoble cause. Now do I think that
all of his fights have been boughtso to speak? Possibly they help made
a lot of money. Gonna saythere, everybody wins. I mean not
everyone wins, but everybody's getting paid. So everyone wins, right and you
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know whether Okay, so you originallyasked about wrestling. How does that compare?
So they both have a wrestling backgroundand they were both fairly decent out
in Westlake, Ohio. Logan,if I'm not mistaken too based in state,
which means, like you know,he was in the state tournament.
He did go to OU and Ithink he wrestled for them while he was
there. They have an athletic background, so that is credible when people say,
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oh, Jake's not a real fighter, Logan's not a real fighter,
they're YouTubers. No, they dohave an athletic background and a fairly decent
one. You know the fact thatall of a sudden they're these influencers,
celebrities that decided they're going to bepro athletes, it is shocking a little
bit, but you know, theyhave a crazy, hardworking determination, so
(38:52):
I don't find it that unbelievable.Yeah, I did say this. I
did say that on the past podcastthat I feel like, just because Logan
and Jake Paul have the reputation thatthey do, and this is in their
personal life, just because they havea spotlight on them. If they do
anything bad, it's already the narrativeis their pieces of crap like West Side
(39:13):
of Cleveland, white trash. Essentially, that's what people look at them as.
So I'm not mad at them forgettingmoney. I just I don't buy
into all the hype that they're theseincredible boxers. And but I will say
I'm happy that we got Ohio representation, Northeast Ohio representation in WW because it's
not just Logan Paul, there isMike them Is, who's also from Parma.
So I will say that. ButI forgot about this. I even
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wrote it down here in my notes. Jake Paul has a Netflix documentary coming
up, so I'm actually gonna watchthat and I'll report on that on a
podcast on the Pound Take because I'minterested in seeing what his life is like,
not so much interested in the sports, but just to see his humble
beginnings here in northeast Ohio and YadA, YadA, YadA. So I will
watch that Netflix stock when it comesout. But you have other just like
(40:00):
the Paul Brothers, you have otherbusiness endeavors. What about your new business
is a Maverick money? What isit called? Okay, so this is
an exclusive. The trailer is notout yet, the podcast is not out
yet. I am launching a newpodcast. Okay, So a little background.
I am a podcast producer. I'vebeen doing it for a better part
(40:22):
of five years. I love doingit. I get to be creative with
other podcasters and it's just my jobto make them look and sound good and
make sure their podcast is hurt everywhere. And I'm kind of pivoting a little
bit. So I'm helping businesses startpodcasts and helping them realize that it's a
huge marketing tool for a business tohave a podcast. Right. Think about
a dentist. This is my greatexample. Think about a dentist. Right.
(40:45):
Most people don't like going to thedentist. And let's say you move
to a new area. You movedto Cleveland, Ohio, and your tooth
is killing you. You're not surewhat it is you're not sure what's going
on, so you google, youknow, dentist near me, come up.
Let's say, let's say I wasa dentist. You come up to
doctor Peters and he's a dentist inCleveland, Ohio, and he's talking about
root canals. And you watch hispodcast where he's you know, chatting with
(41:06):
nurse or even a patient or anotherdoctor, and it's making him look very
credible just by you watching him talkabout what he knows best, and it's
so easy for him. So Iwant to I want to provide that tool
personality to an office, a doctor'soffice, someone that they need that extra
addit touch. That's very smart.So I think it's a great business idea.
(41:28):
And obviously, you know companies andbusinesses and practices, they all have
a budget for marketing, and Ijust I think it's going to be my
job to introduce to them that thiscould be their most powerful marketing tool.
That's what I currently do. ButI started podcast production because I used to
have a podcast that you were oncalled Maverick Mondays, just another Maverick Monday.
(41:51):
That was almost my introduction that wasfor that. So I stopped maybe
episode like thirty five thirty six,just because I got so heavy into production
and I think I've been looking foran excuse to get behind a microphone again,
like as a host, and Ifound it. So I don't know
(42:12):
if I ever told you this,but okay, so backstory, my wife,
Yeah, I was gonna say,the last time you were here,
I remember you talking about you wantedto create. You didn't necessarily say you
wanted to get behind the mic.You were really loving producing for other people.
So I'm happy to hear that youwant to get in front of the
mic again. So that's all Iwas going to say. Yeah, no,
no, I love being on bothends of it. But so here's
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the backstory. My wife and Idid get married relatively young. We learned
very fast, Cody that what ourparents didn't teach us about money, school
for sure didn't and personal finance andjust life as far as finances go.
And our friends are in the sameboat. And I kid you not,
we have friends, Cody that theydo not know how to write a check.
(42:57):
It's not like we're writing too manychecks today. Yeah, And it
just shows you the how little weactually know about just basic financial things.
So my wife and I we learneda lot on our own. We read
books, we watch YouTube videos,we talk to different people. But I
was like, you know, peoplereally need to understand this stuff and maybe
I can help them in some way. And I was chatting with a friend
(43:20):
down in Columbus and he goes,why don't you start a podcast? Because
I was talking to him about maybestarting a course that people could take online.
And he goes, no, backup a little bit, why don't
you do what you're already good at. Why don't you start a podcast,
create your own content, and thenpeople can and then you'll take your content
and you'll create a course whatever youwant, but have fun with a podcast
in the meantime. So what I'vebeen doing for the past couple of months
(43:44):
is I sat down with a bunchof financial experts in every area from accounting
to investing, literally everything bankers,and I asked them just basic questions.
And I'm calling this podcast like myfinancial Journey because I'm asking some serious questions
(44:05):
I don't know about and I wantthis podcast. The reason why this is
going to be different from other financialpodcasts is a it's going to be short,
no longer than fifteen minutes per episode. And B I want to come
across as non threatening, non intimidatingas possible. I listened to a lot
of financial podcasts and I feel stupid, like why don't I know this?
And it's almost like condescending, andI don't want to be that. I
(44:29):
just want I genuinely want to helppeople. I just feel like life is
condescending, like this is this willbe the first time, and I'm really
interested in this endeavor because it's goingto relate to me a lot, especially
in the next few months. Atthirty years old. You know, do
it? You know my job.No one gets into radio because they want
to make tons and tons of money. Maybe they do, but they work
(44:50):
up to that. No one reallystarts out that way. And this is
the first time, at thirty yearsold, that I'm going to be leasing
an apartment on my own, likeI'm going to be living by myself else
on the least, And I almostfeel like I'm a child again because I
there's all these things like I gottamake sure everything's right ready to move in,
and finding the right spot and budgeting. Like it's not that I don't
(45:12):
necessarily make enough money, it's likeI never really had to budget before because
I lived way below my means.And so when it comes budgeting, soda
saving like you have to save,and a lot of people don't save.
And thank god, that was onething. I'm like, listen, I'll
splurge on a little vacation here andthere. But I'm a very simple guy
and I don't need this. Idon't spend that much money. So I
do have a little savings, butI don't know how to make, you
(45:36):
know, make my money work forme, like put money on top of
money on top of money and investI don't know anything about that. I
almost feel like when you talking aboutlike degrading when people say that, I'm
like, all right, I feellike people who invest, they have expendable
income, they have money to invest. I don't think very few people not.
Maybe there are some that take thatrisk, But for me, I'm
(45:58):
like, I don't know if Iwould maybe risk, you know, not
paying my rent because of someone's businessand day, like you know, for
someone suggesting that I invest in this, some people would, but I don't
know if I would. Right.So we talk about so many different aspects
of just life in general, likebuying and leasing a car in all of
these different things. You know,a mortgage, I kid you not.
(46:20):
I didn't know what a mortgage wasor to refinance your mortgage until I sat
down with a guy who does,who's like a mortgage loan mortgage loaner,
and I learned so much about it. So another cool thing about this podcast
is like I'm learning and hopefully maybeone day I'll become a guru in it.
But yeah, you know when yousay you feel like you're a kid
again, when I really do.Yeah. When I was pitching this idea,
(46:42):
the podcast idea, to a bunchof different people, and you know,
I wanted to test the water seeif maybe they would listen to it.
Everyone was like, this is sucha great idea. I would totally
listen, especially if it's only fifteenminutes twenty minutes long. And then I
was telling some older people and theysaid, you should do it for older
people. Right, my target audienceis definitely a younger crowd. Right,
Let's say, coming out of highschool, coming out of college, you
(47:05):
know, just starting a life,twenties and thirties. But you know,
I had an older person say I'mretired and I don't know what to do
with my money and they're getting allthese spamming phone calls that that are,
you know, trying to take thelittle money that they do have. Yeah,
So I honestly I hope to justbe able to help people in this
area and obviously help myself in theprocess. But I'm excited for this and
(47:30):
the trailer. I think I'm gonnadrop it on my birthday, just a
little audio trailer, and then theepisodes will probably come out. I don't
know if I should give a datejust because but early early July they'll probably
start coming out and they'll be weekly, and I'm just trying to lock down
some sponsors and partners so that thepodcast can stay running and so I can
develop the concept even more. ButI'm having a lot of fun doing it.
(47:52):
And the podcast will be called Moneywith Maverick, Money with Maverick.
Yeah, so you can't you can'tactually go subscribe and go check it out.
Even before it's out there, thereis a I reserved the space,
I guess in the podcasting world.Yeah, I will be following that because
that interests me, because I thinkfinancial independence and financial stability is really really
(48:15):
important. It's something that I didn'tnecessarily grow up with. Like my mom
made a really good money, butshe was a single mom and she did
the best she could with two kids. So you know, I would love
to repay all the hours she putin and all the all the time she
invested, and you know, beable to you know, make sure she's
(48:35):
spending her money properly with retirement oryou know, if I make a little
extra, be able to set herup with, you know, a nice
house or something. I don't Idon't know, well, I don't know
what I would do, but Iwill want to return the favor. I
want to have some for me andsome for other people as well, my
loved ones. So I think that'sthat that's the ultimate dream. That's what
(48:57):
England could ever hope for. It'sbeautiful. My wife and I talked about
that one they being able to repaythe people who have helped us along the
way. Yeah, it's a verybeautiful thing. So I appreciate you coming
in Matick, of course, Cody, Yeah, time, Yeah, I
appreciate it. So with that beingsaid, guys, you've heard it from
Maverick. The trailer will be droppingsoon, so we will keep you posted.
He's a part of the Pound Takepodcast, fam so go follow him?
(49:17):
Where do you want them to followyour both instagrams like the you're the
one you use for yourself and theone you use for your podcast. What
would you like? Yeah, soyou can check me out anywhere. Um
my user name everywhere is at Maverickv Peters the letter V in the middle.
Yeah, come check me out,drop a follow, come say him.
I love meeting new people. Ilove chatting about new things. The
(49:40):
new Instagram. I think it's atmoney with mav, money with Math and
or maybe at money with Maverick.I forgot which one we got. But
again, this is all premature.It's just about to come, and so
I'm excited. I hope you enjoyit. I'm somature. You ended it
with that it's premature, is aboutto come. This literally all like,
I'm sorry, we had to getone in there, one little sexual in
(50:04):
your window. Punt there. Shoot, that's gonna get clipped and I'm ruining
it. It's perfect. Anyways,I appreciate you for coming in, Thank
you guys for listening. As always, you guys can follow me at Radio
Cody b across the Board, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok and yeah that is my puntake
This is the true story story aboutNo. One major who rents a room
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This? What is this? Thisis the pound Take Podcast. Hello
(00:37):
everybody, welcome to the pound TakePodcast. I'm your host Pound Take,
and I have a very special guestwith me today. Maverick is back.
Let's freaking go. What's up everybody? Yep, We're in the big studio
today and so we're gonna have somefun. And so how have you been
doing? We are going to doa life update because I haven't real I
mean, we've kept in contact,but you got a whole wife and a
(00:59):
whole kid. So tell me aboutthat first. Okay, So I appreciate
the interest in my life you do. I'm really interested. I see all
your cute little pictures on Instagram andit's just it's crazy to me that.
I mean, I just look atyou as like a young man, like
guys that I went to college with, and it's just so I'm like,
(01:19):
you have a whole family. That'sall y'all? Do it? You start
young. I appreciate it. Well, I am still a young guy.
I'm only twenty five. Actually,I have a birthday this Sunday. I'm
turning twenty six, and oh,happy early birthday, thank you. I
guess the only thing that really changesat twenty six is I get kicked off
my parents' health insurance. So that'sI've been there. Sorry is it only
(01:40):
gets worse from here. But asfar as my family goes, so I
always want to give them a shoutout. My beautiful wife, Tehila,
my beautiful little baby Tory. Ilove both my girls to death and they're
so cute. So I work fromhome a lot of the time, and
I have Tory with me. Soto say I get nothing done is an
unders just because she's so huge,takes up so much my time. You
(02:02):
are a hands on dad, totallyhands on dad. My wife goes,
She's like, I don't understand whyyou can't get stuff done during the day.
I'm like, for me, listen, for a guy to watch a
kid, it's almost like I'm babysittingfor a mom or for like a girl.
It's so natural I have. Yeah, you have that maternal instinct.
(02:23):
Yeah, I have a sister inlaw. She's fifteen. It's so natural
for her to just you know,pick up on every little queue. For
me, I'm like sweating to figureout, like, okay, is it
time for a bottle? Is itlike your nap? I don't know what
to do. I'm freaking out.When when you decided to have a child,
did all of the females and yourfamily kind of weigh in on like
what you should do? Were theyall hands on just like you were?
(02:44):
Like does she have lots of auntiesand cousins that they stay with or is
it pretty much just you and Tehila. It's funny you say that. Okay,
Um, so they still are.They're still very hands on. But
my mother told my wife, Ithink like three months after us being married,
She's like, I can't wait forgrandchildren, and you know, we
just wanted to take it slow.Turns out we caught baby fever really early,
(03:07):
so we had our little Tory,and thank god, everyone is happy
and healthy. But we have somethingreally cool. There's an app. I
think it's just called like family Album. It's basically social media for your kids.
Oh that's cool. So we uploadall of our favorite pictures and videos
of Tory and like special moments,and it's by invite only, so you
(03:30):
know, my parents, my wife'sparents, all of our aunts, great
aunts, great grandparents, whoever isaround and interested, they can check it
out. They can view the picturesand comments on them. And there's always
something going on on the app wherepeople are commenting or they're like, oh
my gosh, she now his sixteenthYeah that I mean that would be handy
for me and my family because Imake my a Christmas gift that I knocked
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it out of the park. Idid a birthday gift and a Christmas gift
the same thing but different. AndI'm going to tell you why. I
have a friend of mine he's actuallya fan of the show. He's a
fan of the Alan Cock Show.And he one year gifted us coasters with
our faces on him and like thelogo and everything. And I was like,
oh, this is so cool.I wonder if I can get you
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know, my mom's face and youknow my brother. And so she one
a year for her birthday, Igot a picture of me and my mom
together. I think we were onlike the Corona Cruz and got that on
a coaster and I got her mybrother and my and myself on there,
and it was she has like alittle phrase that she has, so I
got that on a coaster, andthen when my cousin had her child,
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I got those on a coaster.So there's little coasters all around my family's
houses that I gifted them and isfrom a guy. His name is Roman,
and he that's like his thing.He goes to these different comic cons
and makes these I get. Imean, they're novelties, but they're actually
really neat that I don't even wantto like use them, because you know,
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they're valuable. So my mom wantedme to have a kid just so
she could be a hands on grandmother, and I'm like, well, it
might take a little extra time.So I totally get the whole family dynamic
thing. And yeah, that thatapp seems pretty awesome. It's so interesting,
you know, typically at least theway it seems today. So for
those who don't remember in the previousepisodes, I do come from religious background.
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So I got married at twenty three. My wife was twenty one,
which is normal in our community.But it seems like the trend is much
more like later twenties thirties. Thereare people even getting married in their forties.
And so my mom, actually myparents, we weren't always religious and
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it's just me and two brothers,and I don't think my mother was like
expecting grandkids for a while. She'slike, oh, man starts all over.
No no, so she bitched,like all of our old clothes,
all of our old toys. There'sobviously no crib anymore. But my in
laws, who have been religious fora while, they held on to everything.
So whenever we go to my inlaw's house, they have like a
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crib ready to go if we need, and toys that my wife used to
play on, which is crazy.Meanwhile, my mother is so excited about
being a grandma. She she tookand I think it's my old bedroom and
she turned it into like a nursery. So there's a crib and there's a
there's like a guess bad in achanging table and toys and clothes and a
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closets. A little much. Yeah, I mean my mom she's essentially the
same way, but she's very she'svery crafty. She'll just come up with
some I'm like, I didn't evenknow you had a crib, Like,
where where did this come from?So it's just been in the basement for
years. I just never reused it, like she was waiting for a grandshot.
And then my brother had his son, and I have a bunch of
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well I consider his girlfriend's kids likemy step nieces. And then I have
a bunch of little cousins who Iconsider my nieces. So there's kids all
over. She's just waiting to seemy offspring, and so that's gonna be
a whole thing in itself. Butwhat was the name of the app you
said? I think it's called familyAlbum. Family Album. Okay, I
have to look into that, butyeah, my mom's a sucker for stuff
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like that. But the whole familything. Since the last time I saw
is this the first This has tobe the first podcast you've done with me,
the first time back on the podcastsince twenty twenty three, right since
twenty I think, so, Iwas gonna say, because this is like
your third time appearing. The firsttime was over zoomed. That was like
during COVID, I feel like,and then you came and we were in
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the other studio. That was likelast year or sometime, and then now
you're here now Since the last timeyou saw me, I got into a
relationship and we were discussing. Youwere saying, like, in your community,
things move really fast. My momwas already considering. She's like,
oh, well, I know you'removing out of your apartment. Why don't
you move in with your boyfriend?And I'm like, we started. We
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have been dating less than two months. So how long did you date your
now wife before you guys got tothat phase? Give me some advice on
a healthy, happy relationship. Firstof all, congrats to you. How
exciting that is. How long?He's an older guy though, I mean
not that older is bad, buthe's older than me. He's forty four,
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I'm thirty. And we met througha dating We went through Facebook dating.
Yeah, something wrong with that?Yeah, yeah, I'm into it.
It's just I feel like he's ona different wavelength than I am.
He's far more established than I am. But so my wife and I dated
almost two years, and we datedthrough we dated through COVID, and we
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dated long distance. So we hadsome really strenuous situations I guess, not
necessarily between us, but like aroundus, and we were able to overcome
that. As far as a relationshipgoes, obviously, you know the basics.
You gotta be loyal, you gottayou gotta be as romantic as possible.
Cody, I learned the hard way. I'm not romantic at all.
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I think I'm learning that too.I can, I can like plan stuff,
but I'm not romantic. So mywife told me, she goes,
you know, you're not like soromantic, like so and so, like
whatever. Another friend of ours,oh, I was guessing. She brought
up her X. I was like, damn. I was like, wow,
no, not an X. Butand I'm thinking about it, and
I'm like, hang on a second. That kind of hit me in my
pride. I want to be alittle romantic too. So I've been making
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efforts and whenever I make an effort, I go, see I could be
romantic. So like I spread outlike flower pedals, like on the table
and one time on the bed,and I did um. I got her
a cake one time, and Itry to regularly get her flowers, maybe
like once a week, just littlethings here and there. And every time
I point out, see I couldbe romantic. And then I finally asked
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her, after like a couple weeksof doing this, I go, am,
I still keep asking and not romantic. I so like, I have
to measure myself somehow, and shegoes, yeah, I guess you're a
little more romantic. I guess that'sthat's literally like in my relationship, I'm
learning so much because the other relationshiprelationships that I was in, they were
all very short. But I knewvery quickly that it wasn't going to work.
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So I was like, I don'twant to waste someone's time. If
I'm not someone's person, I wouldrather than find out sooner than later so
we could both move on with ourlives. But this one is a bit
different. It just seemed like itgot very like our intentions up front were
the same and we wanted the samething, so it was just it just
kind of moved very fast. Andhe is very thoughtful in aspect that he
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was in a relationship for many manyyears, like almost two decades and it
had ended like a couple of yearsago, and he every time he comes
over to my house he brings somethinglike he whether it be like food to
stock my fridge, he knows theway to my hurt food, or he
has brought flowers two separate times,and they both have died by the next
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time he came over, so Iwas like, wow, like I he's
very romantic and thoughtful. But Iwas like, stop giving me flowers because
they'll they'll die. Like I'm justnot at home enough. They don't get
enough sunlight the way my apartment isangle. So it's just like it's a
whole thing. But I'm working onit, and I hope he is patient
with me. But I'm I'm likingthe new, you know, relationship,
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pound Cake. I'm a little beefier. I've been working out now and then
I have more hair, so that'sa change in me. But the one
time, I know we don't talkthat often, but whenever there is a
Justin bieber story, I think ofyou for some reason, just because you're
such a Justin bieber Stand, AndI just don't get it, because I
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get why you're a Justin bieber Stand, but I don't know why a lot
of guys, Like if a guywere to say he was really into Usher,
people would look at him funny.Or if he was really into what
was another male singer that's like big, I don't know Jason Derulo. Yeah,
Like if a guy said, ohI love Jason Derulo, you would
look at him funny, but forwhatever reason, Justin Bieber gets a pass,
and I don't know. I thinkI have a revel I think I
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had a revelation because between the two, I think he's not no longer my
favorite Canadian. Who's your favorite Canadian? Mendes Okay? I love Shawn Mendes,
Okay, an interview you have tosee with from Apple Music. I
think Zane Lowe. Maybe he's gotthis cool podcast, this cool YouTube series.
And I saw a side of Seanthat was so cool. He was
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just like content and calm and confident. I think that's how he is all
the time. Though, so cool. He they you know, them being
both teenage heart throbs, they dovery separate works like they're. Justin Bieber
is is way more edgier than ShawnMendes. Shawn Mendez is not that dude,
And I think that. And Ifeel bad saying this because it sounds
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very um shallow of me, butI really do think it's true. Justin
Bieber had to go through a lotto be where he is. He's not
only good looking, he can singhis ass off. I'm sure he probably
writes him producers and all that,but he had a lot of controversies and
he wasn't afraid of being hated oryou know, he took a lot of
hits in the media. That isnot Sean at all. Sean. I
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I feel like he would crumble.I don't. I don't feel like he
would be the type of guy topiano mop bucket or uh you know,
drag race or be could you magazShaan Mindez being nude all over the magazines,
Like, I don't see Sean doingthat. And I think because of
that, people look at him.They have to handle him with kid gloves.
People still look at him as akid, and he's sensitive, and
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they're not talking too much about hisrelationship with Camilla Cabello, and they're not,
you know, talked about him datinga fifty year old although she was
hot, his fifty year old doctor. And his music is not the way
it used to be. They wereit was. He was a chart topper
and now his last album, Ididn't hear anything about it, and his
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tour got canceled. But I willstill tolerate him because he's so good looking,
and they'll put him in a movie. He had that Little cart Too
again, a kid's movie. Hewas voicing a crocodile and le crocodile,
so they'll put him in something.But I just two different careers. But
he's still my favorite because he's helooks like a model, and he has
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the voice of an angel. Sothat's my thing. So I love Sean
Mendez maybe just as much as youdo. Let's go back to Biber for
a second. He doesn't exactly getthe pass you make it out to be.
Like you said, if someone said, oh, I'm obsessed with Jason
Derulo or Adam Levine, you wouldyou would get You look at that guy
kind of funny, like where areyou? Okay? People do get but
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but like people give jess a Biberbut like you who wear Drew, anybody
could wear his clothing line and noone think anything about it, or you
could, you know, say,if you say I love the Babes,
people will be like, oh,yeah, I love Jessi Bieber too.
It's he is he does get thatpassed. I don't changed. It's so
here's my I have a bunch oftheories on Biber. But you can always
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consider me your personal Beaver afficionado.Whenever you hear news, definitely think of
me. Please the best compliment youcan give me is that I remind you
of him, because it's a littlebit you will be on my news feeding
you and your wife will have hisclothing line. I'm like, oh my
god, give it a rest,getting like I'm just gonna and then after
that, the algorithm's nothing but freakingJustin Bieber. This like, I'm like,
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where did all this Justin Biebers comefrom? And it's like you tagged
his clothing line and one of yourpictures or something. So as as far
as Bieber goes, he shifted gearsa lot, and you know, he
went through a bunch of different abunch of different phases. Where he started
out he was like this adorable littlepreteen, and then he turned into a
teenager and then kind of like arebellious teenager. And then he fell off,
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fell off the grid for a littlebit, and then came back.
And then he came back and foundreligion. And now, you know,
you watch interviews throughout that whole timelinefrom when he was fourteen fifteen until now,
it almost seems like he's trying tobecome as normal as possible. Now
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normal is like, in quotes,like like a typical person, like a
non celebrity and normalist, normal asone could be with the status and fame.
And it seems that way. AndI don't know why, but part
of me really loved when he waslike you didn't really know what you were
going to get from him, becausehe was like a little rebellious, like
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I loved when he would always walkaround in sunglasses like that to me was
my favorite phase of him. Butobviously I can relate to his religious journey
and everything. But he's got areally beautiful marriage right now with Hailey Baldwin.
Well, yeah, he has abeautiful marriage, but she again,
she's gone through a lot with thewhole stilly. I can't believe that's still
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a thing. And I don't wantto make this whole thing about Justin Bieber,
but to your point, I feellike Justin Bieber can be quote have
a normal life because he had thatpublic death, if you know what I
mean, Like he had that image. He shed it like most teen stars
do. Miley's Hiris did it.And that's why I'm saying, Sean Mindez
is never going to find peace untilhe has that public death because people will
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see him as that that, youknow, sixteen year old that was on
vine, so he needs he needsto have that. But so this kind
of ties into Justin Bieber a littlebit. I wanted to get you here
because I think you're very intelligent andI want to know your opinion on certain
things. So I'll give you around of poundcakes hottakes, And this one
kind of ties into Justin Bieber.When I back in the day, I
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got to go see his Purpose tour. Oh did you really? I didn't
pay for the dikes, but yeah, someone my friend was like a superstand
and she got like pit tickets andshe like grabbed his foot while he was
like on stage like that type ofwas that here in Cleveland? This was
here in Cleveland. It was theyear. It was twenty sixteen, the
year that we won the championship.So it was a big deal. And
I understand how big concerts are,Like, I understand why people want to
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go out, understand the excitement ofseeing your favorite star live his concert.
Honestly, the next week I sawhe did Madison Square Garden and the energy
was a little different. But againI think he was exhausted. But I
understand how concerts make people feel.In the excitement behind him. That being
said, I feel like people concertshame. I feel I feel like people
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concert shame. And one of hisrivals. The only people that could really
top him in like record sales wouldbe Beyonce and Taylor Swift, and they
both happen to be on tour rightnow. So what do you think about
people ticket shaming? Because I feellike it's a status symbol. When you
get to these big, expensive concerts, you know it shows one you can
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afford to go to. You're you'retaking pictures there, so you let everyone
know that you can go. Uwould you is there an artist out there
justin Bieber included? Would you payfifteen hundred dollars to see him? Or
anyone else for that matter. Okay, you're asking the wrong person, That's
what I'm saying. I know Iwould empty my bank account to spend five
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minutes with him. Can maybe that'sexaggerate my bucket list. I would love
to meet him and spend time withhim. He is so cool to me.
But let's talk about maybe a differentartist, Taylor Swift. I probably
wouldn't. I probably wouldn't go pastlike, I don't know, like two
hundred dollars three hundred dollars just becauseI'm not as big of a fan.
But I have spent money on concerttickets because it's a lot of fun.
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It's the most on a concert.Um. I took my wife when we
were dating. We went to gosee Carrie Underwood right here. Oh okay,
I like that. That's a goodone. That was fun. I
love Carrie Underwood. That was fun. We didn't and we didn't spend a
crazy amount. We were kind ofhigh. Came here, she came here.
I remember when she came to theCovelli Center in Youngstown. I didn't
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know she came to Cleveland. Shecame to Cleveland, and it was the
cry Pretty tour. We had ablast, I don't. I think we
spent a total of like two fiftyor something. Nothing crazy, but,
um, concerts are fun. Idon't get to go enough. Um.
I went to go see Nile Horndown at Blossom. Okay, that was
really fun. I think he's comingback to I'm actually this summer. Yeah.
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I saw Arianna Grande. I've seenUsher live. Um. Usher was
okay. He didn't perform the songsI wanted him too, So maybe it
was me, but he didn't doanything wrong. Gavin DeGraw Um, Yeah,
justin Bieber Show was okay. Thebest contract I saw it was like
Celine Dion oh Selene, that wasgreat. But yeah, I feel like
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there's like a lot of concert chaming, just like Matt Rife. Do you
know who that is? Matt?You don't like it? I didn't know.
I don't dislike him, but Ifeel like he came essentially came out
of nowhere. A lot of peopledidn't know who he was, and then
he's all over everyone's news feed.That told that's his whole stick. He
says he came out of nowhere,that puberty hit him overnight. I think
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he did because I didn't know whohe was, but he had He's very
clever in his marketing because when hestarted popping up on like my YouTube suggestions,
it was like only fans. Iwas like, oh, this,
this is a good looking guy.He has only fans and it was a
comedy special, So he's clever inthat aspect. And then after that he
was just everywhere and I'm like,who is this man? All over my
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Facebook? And everyone's like, wegotta get tickets to go see him.
I'm like why my brother? Whois he? I got him tickets to
see Kevin Hart. He messaged methe other day and he's like, Yo,
can you get me some Matt Rifetickets? And I laughed. He's
like, they're not for me,they're from my girlfriend. I'm like,
okay, but still, and I'masking for a friend. Sure to ask
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you for a friend again, MattRife. He didn't do it. He's
not doing anything wrong, and heis. It's not his fault. He's
good looking. But it's gonna bea bunch of groupie girls there. And
I feel like people are gonna go, not necessarily because they enjoy his comedy,
but they want to get tickets becauseother people didn't get the tickets,
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Like he sold out out of nowhere. When's the last time we had a
comedy a comedian that was that youngsell out tickets out of nowhere. And
he's from Ohio, So I gottaboy. He's cool. No, I
don't know. His comedy is great. I love him. I actually want
to go see him too, justbecause I've been watching all of his stuff
on YouTube, on TikTok whatever.He's great and he pushes the boundaries a
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little bit. And it's fun tosee how the crowd reacts. He has
great crowd work, fantastic this fromwhat I hear when you were talking about
that on the show the other day. Yeah, you don't usually see that,
especially if he's so young. Butyeah, I've been listening to a
lot of comedy. Actually, isthat rife? Andrew Schultz is fun to
listen to. Andrew Schultz Now he'sbeen around for a while. I like
him. He does a lot ofpodcasts he does he used to do.
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I don't know if he still doesthe Brilliant Idiots with Charlemagne, who's on
the Breakfast Club. So I dolike him. Is there anybody that you
don't like or you don't care for? And the comedy space? Comedy space
or music like I don't know necessarilyyour taste, like do you, by
the way, do you make videoson TikTok or are they just like career
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oriented videos You're not on there?Like dancing in oil or anything. I've
ever done a dance. I don'tthink I can dance. I've never tried.
At my wedding, I danced,but that wasn't really considered much.
Um No, I'm just on TikToktalking about like podcasting business stuff. Um,
I plan to talk about like fitnessand health and whatever. But um,
I just have fun on TikTok.I'm just literally playing around. But
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what my taste as far as likeculture, Um, I'm I'm definitely into
like pop and trends and stuff.Um what don't I like? Um?
I don't know. I think Ilike most. I don't like too.
I don't like things that are toogirly, Like I won't binge just listen
to Disney songs. Oh okay,Well then we're we're on opposites. Well,
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wait, there's a couple. There'sa couple, like, like there's
a song from Hercules. I likezero to Hero and I can go the
Distance or something. I don't knowthat one. Like there's a couple,
but I'm not like you go toplace. Not For a long time,
I was gonna say, I usednot that I won't. Yeah, I
love like the playoff Square. That'sthe thing that me and my boyfriend have
in common is we love Whitney Houston. And then we will go to a
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play like we saw the Tina rightbefore she passed, like the Tina Musical.
And then I'm glad we saw itbecause we had a little insight into
her life. And then like thenext week after that, she passed.
So I'm like, oh, man, um, but what a life she's
lived. Did you get into hertype of music? What type of music
did you grow up on? Igrew up on okay, so um.
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When I was probably third fourth grade, I got an iPod shuffle for Hanukkah
and it was like the little squarerectangle yahout a screen. Yeah yeah,
like a little circle clip it tolike your code or something, and you
can't pick your song. It's likeyou just shuffle yeah current. It's like
stuck in shuffle mode. So somy I didn't know any music. My
dad loaded it up with music hethought I might like, and it's all
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like seventies, eighties and nineties music. It's all music he grew up on,
basically, So that's not bad.I know all that music. That's
what I grew up on. It'sit's like, um, let's see,
it's like eight Loaf and a littleMaroon five maybe early two thousands, trying
to think like the monkeys, theBGS monkeys. I didn't I don't know
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any of those, see. Igrew up on like Earthwin, like the
R and B, like the EarthWinning Fire, Whitney Houston. She I
grew up like around the Bodyguard time. So that was like a big album
in like my household. Celendion fitin because it was like Titanic, Like
I can time stamp all these songsfrom like when I was a kid,
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and I just remember like the bigthing. So music has always been a
thing. Did you ever want tolike play an instrument or like play a
sport or I know you do wrestling, but like is that Did you have
a passion for that really young ordid you just kind of like fall into
that once you were like in highschool? Um, good question. So
I I've been learning how to playguitar for like seven years. I'm like
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still like learning to play guitar.I'm a lefty, so to find a
lefty guitar is like nearer impossible.So when I finally got one as a
gift, I loved it. Icouldn't put it down and then whatever life
happened, and now I play itwhenever I remember I have it. But
yeah, I do like to playguitar, like to try and learn like
to learn pop songs. Um There'stwo different ways to play guitar. There's
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like strumming like rhythm, and thenthere's finger picking or lead, and I
like to play lead like fingerpicking,So like when I play a guitar,
you hear the song instead of themelody. To me, that's that's fun.
But as far as sports, Ilove playing baseball. In school,
I loved playing you know, likepick up football. I was never really
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good at basketball wrestling. Obviously,I can play tennis. I'm a I'm
a I guess Jim Rat, butnot so much since I got married.
I used to be. I usedto go like twice today and have so
much fun. They're just working ondifferent parts of my body. I was
gonna say, I don't know whenyou find if you still were a super
fit guy, I would be like, well, where the hell do you
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find the time? You maybe willbe neglecting something at home, because literally
from work to taking care of akid to making sure your wife is happy,
I don't know when you These peoplewho kill you know, two or
three hours in the gym a day, like I do an hour and I'm
beat. And that's like with mycrazy ass schedule. So I don't know
how those guys do it that thatis literally their job and if they don't
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make money off of it, likebeing an influencer, Um, I don't.
I don't know what they would do. What would be the point of
having a super hot bod and notshowing it all? Yeah, I don't
know. Speaking speaking of sports though, have you been listening to the show
lately? Have you heard my sportsbreaks? Are they okay? They are
okay? So I'm not like thebiggest sport fanatic, neither am I.
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That's why they they find it hilariousthat they had me do the sports and
because it started out as like aninety second segment, so I know when
it started. I haven't listened toit recently, but it was really funny.
But you could tell me something insports and I would believe you,
just because I'm not, you know, hyper focused on it like the average
sports fan. You know, Ilook at it is that I'm more focused
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on the athletes from than the actualsport because I'm like, I don't know
if if you ask me the differencebetween like a field goal and a touchdown,
like, I don't, I don'tknow. I have no idea about
the game. But the athlete,I can tell you if he's married,
if he had his recent scandal,you know what type of car he drives.
That's the stuff I'm interested in.That's the stuff that is you know,
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that's hilarious. We do not knowthe difference between a touchdown and a
field goal. No, are theythe same thing? Yeah? Well no,
but it's the same sport. It'sfootball. So it's football, Okay.
A touchdown is when you get theball across the very end of the
field. A field goals those yellows, oh yeah, okay, okay,
well then I do know that.See I can give myself some credit.
I do know that. So whenthey say kick a field goal, that
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means it goes in between the twoposts. Right, ah, look at
me. But I think when Iwas younger, I did every every sport.
I'm actionable. I think my momjust wanted me to be active,
us me and my brother to beactive. Was the one that you that
you liked over others, so wedid. So. I did go to
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like a musician phase like I did. Get I played guitar. I did
viola for four years. I guessthat was like the longest, But that
was because that was in school thatwasn't necessarily an extra curricular. I ran
track. I did that for twoseasons. I just didn't stick. I
did karate and then I did bittywrestling, and I was actually, you
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know, if had I stuck withthat, I probably would have been okay
because I just had no interest.It just wasn't fun. But I was
good and they needed bodies at thetime. I don't know if there was
like, uh, if you havea certain amount of people, you get
some type of government money. Idon't know what it was. But they
kept telling me like, no,you should, you should do but I
don't want to do wrestling. Idon't want to. And because I think
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I was so frustrated with having todo it, and they told me I
had to stay. I just keptpinning people. I was so angry and
they're like, wow, we Andwhen they were trying to pin me,
I would get even more mad.So then I would like I could get
out of it. No one couldreally like pin me down. So I
would do these tournaments and I'm like, all right, how long do I
have to do this. It's almostlike the South Park episode where the kids
are like playing softball or they're playing, Yeah, I think they are playing
(30:15):
softbare baseball, and they're like I'mgonna lose. Like, oh no,
I'm gonna lose. We're so goingdown because we don't want to do this
all summer. And that's honestly howI was like, oh you if school
ends at three, I have tobe here till five. Oh no,
this isn't gonna work. So whatabout why do This is a weird question
to ask, but how do youknow when a sport is for you?
(30:37):
You can be good at it,but you might not like it, or
you may like it, you maynot be good at it. What makes
you stay in a sport you personally? So me personally is an interesting example.
I went to a high school wherethey didn't have sports. So I
was in yeshiva, which is Hebrewfor like a rabbinical college, and like
I kid you not, our schedulewas so intense that they started at seven
(31:00):
thirty seven fifteen and our last classended at nine thirty. Like we had
studying all day, so there wasno extra curriculum. When I came home.
It was a boarding high school.When I came home, I would
wrestle with, you know, theteam I used to wrestle with um.
But I loved all sports, withthe exception of basketball, just because wrestlers
(31:25):
and basketball players just don't really getalong, just because it's the same season.
They're very Oh it's really yeah.Oh that's something I never knew that.
I thought it was like footballers,like people who played football, And
what was it like soccer like orlike baseball, like one of the Big
three whatever was the Big three?So it was football, basketball, and
soccer or no football, basketball andbaseball. And they will all compete against
(31:47):
each other because they I don't knowthey could be but uphill in the wrestling
room, coaches would threaten the wrestlersby saying, you want to go play
with the basketball players? Really yeah? And and I think it's the opposite
way too. My dad used tobe the head coach at Beechwood, which
is a city I grew up in, and at Beechwood High School, he
(32:08):
made an agreement with I hope Idon't butcher the story. He made an
agreement with the head basketball coach andsaid, let's let's both both teams had
issues. Some boys were misbehaving,they weren't following the rules and was becoming
an issue. It was ruining bothsports and just for that year. And
(32:30):
so my dad, the head coachof the wrestling team and the head coach
of the basketball team, said,let's switch. I'll coach the basketball players
and the basketball coach will coach thewrestlers for one day or one week or
something, and at the end,hopefully we'll scare them straight right, Hopefully
they'll whatever however this experience plays out, hopefully it'll be a learning experience.
(32:54):
So my dad and the other wrestlingcoaches at the time, they put these
basketball players through a rigorous workout.Now, when I say rigorous, there
are people who wrestle in middle schoolwrestling wrestling in high school than in college.
And then let's say they joined thearmy. If you would ask them
what's more challenging, you know,training to defend our country or training in
(33:20):
the wrestling room, they'll always saythe wrestling room. Why is that?
Because you wake up at four am, you go for a five hour run
to start screw that, and thenscrew that, and then you start lifting,
and then you start drilling. Andwrestling is a sport like no other.
It requires every muscle in your body. Right, if you put a
football player in a wrestling match,he's gonna get tired because it's a different
(33:44):
kind of fit. It's a differentkind of fitness level that you have to
be at. So you know,going back to the story, the basketball
players were exhausted and like they werehungover trash cans, getting sick, like
they couldn't handle physically handle the wrestlingpractice. Mean, while the wrestlers were
like this is so stupid, likethis is nothing. They were like jogging
up and down the court. Theywere like, this isn't even our warm
(34:07):
up for the same cardio is nojoke. And coming from someone who like
went was going consistently to a fitnessclass and then stopped for two weeks,
I'm like, oh, like yourbody like doesn't what is the right word,
not deteriorate, deteriorates, but likeit goes back to the way it
was really fast, and yeah,you have to build up your stamina again.
(34:28):
Yeah, it's also the habits thatyou have. So you know,
if if your life habits are ina certain way, it'll be easier to
regress, I guess. But youknow, originally you asked, what how
I find a sport that sticks withme? There are two sports in my
life. It's wrestling and snowboarding.Yeah, that's really what it is.
I love snowboarding because I can doit. I don't really get the opportunity
(34:49):
to wrestle so much anymore, butI can coach, like in a youth
club actually in Beechwood, and that'sfun. I get to work with kids
every now and again. I haven'tdone it or a bit just because you
know, life gets in the way. But I love snowboarding. I follow
snowboarding when I can, and Ilove being in the snow. I think
we've talked about it before, butI freaking love it. So those are
(35:10):
my two sports. And I knowyou like amongst all other Ohio boys and
like wrestling, it's Logan and JakePaul. Now Jake Paul went into boxing
or no, he's who's in theWWE. I think that's Logan. Logan
went to WWE and then Jake Paulis still doing the boxing. Is that
like a watered down version of likewhat they were doing as wrestlers before.
(35:34):
Good question. So Logan's older,Yes, Logan is currently in WWE.
I think that's what he was bornfor. Like he's very meaning and he's
very He's got a great physique,so he looks good when when he's doing
when he's you know, wrestling soto speak, he's very good at it.
(35:54):
Jake is currently boxing. He's boxingany and everyone that he can.
He's trying to prove himself. Iguess I think it's real though, or
do you think they're they're like buyingwins. Do you think he's actually beating
all these people and it's like trulyundefeated. So I do think that Jake
is fighting people who aren't necessarily legitimate. Like, for example, he fought
(36:15):
a guy named Ben Askron, whois a retired MMA fighter. He is
currently very out of shape. Hehappens to have a wrestling background, and
I know him from that, likeI know about Ben Askron from wrestling.
But the fight, if I recallcorrectly, lasted like a minute. I
was gonna say, he could eitheryou could do it two ways. You
could either buy these people, likepeople like Floyd Mayweather. He Logan or
(36:38):
Logan fought him, but that wasa paid for a win. He I
figured. Floyd was like, there'sno way I'm gonna wow you. I
don't care how much money you payme. I don't need the money.
You're not gonna beat me, sothey would probably just like, hey,
i'll give you some money for truth. We just want the cloud of fighting
Floyd Mayweather, so you could paysomeone off that would be one thing,
or only fight people that you knowyou could beat. And I was like,
(36:59):
well that's not really a competitor.Then you're you're picking the low hanging
fruit. So if if he reallywanted, I think right now they just
want to build up this reputation ofbeing undefeated and no one's going to step
to the Logan or the Paul Brothers. But I don't think people are really
threatened by them. I don't knowbecause if someone like me who doesn't follow
(37:21):
sports can see something like oh theybought that, why can't other people,
right, So I don't know ifthey are. I do think Jake is
trying to prove himself. Logan kindof stepped away from boxing a little bit,
and I think he found his rhythmin WWE. But Jake does take
it seriously and he's trying to buildthe sport which he is. He's opening
(37:43):
up like these youth clinics all aroundthe world. I think he's calling them
boxing bullies and it's great. It'staking kids off the street and into a
gym. I think it's a verynoble cause. Now do I think that
all of his fights have been boughtso to speak? Possibly they help made
a lot of money. Gonna saythere, everybody wins. I mean not
everyone wins, but everybody's getting paid. So everyone wins, right and you
(38:07):
know whether Okay, so you originallyasked about wrestling. How does that compare?
So they both have a wrestling backgroundand they were both fairly decent out
in Westlake, Ohio. Logan,if I'm not mistaken too based in state,
which means, like you know,he was in the state tournament.
He did go to OU and Ithink he wrestled for them while he was
there. They have an athletic background, so that is credible when people say,
(38:30):
oh, Jake's not a real fighter, Logan's not a real fighter,
they're YouTubers. No, they dohave an athletic background and a fairly decent
one. You know the fact thatall of a sudden they're these influencers,
celebrities that decided they're going to bepro athletes, it is shocking a little
bit, but you know, theyhave a crazy, hardworking determination, so
(38:52):
I don't find it that unbelievable.Yeah, I did say this. I
did say that on the past podcastthat I feel like, just because Logan
and Jake Paul have the reputation thatthey do, and this is in their
personal life, just because they havea spotlight on them. If they do
anything bad, it's already the narrativeis their pieces of crap like West Side
(39:13):
of Cleveland, white trash. Essentially, that's what people look at them as.
So I'm not mad at them forgettingmoney. I just I don't buy
into all the hype that they're theseincredible boxers. And but I will say
I'm happy that we got Ohio representation, Northeast Ohio representation in WW because it's
not just Logan Paul, there isMike them Is, who's also from Parma.
So I will say that. ButI forgot about this. I even
(39:37):
wrote it down here in my notes. Jake Paul has a Netflix documentary coming
up, so I'm actually gonna watchthat and I'll report on that on a
podcast on the Pound Take because I'minterested in seeing what his life is like,
not so much interested in the sports, but just to see his humble
beginnings here in northeast Ohio and YadA, YadA, YadA. So I will
watch that Netflix stock when it comesout. But you have other just like
(40:00):
the Paul Brothers, you have otherbusiness endeavors. What about your new business
is a Maverick money? What isit called? Okay, so this is
an exclusive. The trailer is notout yet, the podcast is not out
yet. I am launching a newpodcast. Okay, So a little background.
I am a podcast producer. I'vebeen doing it for a better part
(40:22):
of five years. I love doingit. I get to be creative with
other podcasters and it's just my jobto make them look and sound good and
make sure their podcast is hurt everywhere. And I'm kind of pivoting a little
bit. So I'm helping businesses startpodcasts and helping them realize that it's a
huge marketing tool for a business tohave a podcast. Right. Think about
a dentist. This is my greatexample. Think about a dentist. Right.
(40:45):
Most people don't like going to thedentist. And let's say you move
to a new area. You movedto Cleveland, Ohio, and your tooth
is killing you. You're not surewhat it is you're not sure what's going
on, so you google, youknow, dentist near me, come up.
Let's say, let's say I wasa dentist. You come up to
doctor Peters and he's a dentist inCleveland, Ohio, and he's talking about
root canals. And you watch hispodcast where he's you know, chatting with
(41:06):
nurse or even a patient or anotherdoctor, and it's making him look very
credible just by you watching him talkabout what he knows best, and it's
so easy for him. So Iwant to I want to provide that tool
personality to an office, a doctor'soffice, someone that they need that extra
addit touch. That's very smart.So I think it's a great business idea.
(41:28):
And obviously, you know companies andbusinesses and practices, they all have
a budget for marketing, and Ijust I think it's going to be my
job to introduce to them that thiscould be their most powerful marketing tool.
That's what I currently do. ButI started podcast production because I used to
have a podcast that you were oncalled Maverick Mondays, just another Maverick Monday.
(41:51):
That was almost my introduction that wasfor that. So I stopped maybe
episode like thirty five thirty six,just because I got so heavy into production
and I think I've been looking foran excuse to get behind a microphone again,
like as a host, and Ifound it. So I don't know
(42:12):
if I ever told you this,but okay, so backstory, my wife,
Yeah, I was gonna say,the last time you were here,
I remember you talking about you wantedto create. You didn't necessarily say you
wanted to get behind the mic.You were really loving producing for other people.
So I'm happy to hear that youwant to get in front of the
mic again. So that's all Iwas going to say. Yeah, no,
no, I love being on bothends of it. But so here's
(42:36):
the backstory. My wife and Idid get married relatively young. We learned
very fast, Cody that what ourparents didn't teach us about money, school
for sure didn't and personal finance andjust life as far as finances go.
And our friends are in the sameboat. And I kid you not,
we have friends, Cody that theydo not know how to write a check.
(42:57):
It's not like we're writing too manychecks today. Yeah, And it
just shows you the how little weactually know about just basic financial things.
So my wife and I we learneda lot on our own. We read
books, we watch YouTube videos,we talk to different people. But I
was like, you know, peoplereally need to understand this stuff and maybe
I can help them in some way. And I was chatting with a friend
(43:20):
down in Columbus and he goes,why don't you start a podcast? Because
I was talking to him about maybestarting a course that people could take online.
And he goes, no, backup a little bit, why don't
you do what you're already good at. Why don't you start a podcast,
create your own content, and thenpeople can and then you'll take your content
and you'll create a course whatever youwant, but have fun with a podcast
in the meantime. So what I'vebeen doing for the past couple of months
(43:44):
is I sat down with a bunchof financial experts in every area from accounting
to investing, literally everything bankers,and I asked them just basic questions.
And I'm calling this podcast like myfinancial Journey because I'm asking some serious questions
(44:05):
I don't know about and I wantthis podcast. The reason why this is
going to be different from other financialpodcasts is a it's going to be short,
no longer than fifteen minutes per episode. And B I want to come
across as non threatening, non intimidatingas possible. I listened to a lot
of financial podcasts and I feel stupid, like why don't I know this?
And it's almost like condescending, andI don't want to be that. I
(44:29):
just want I genuinely want to helppeople. I just feel like life is
condescending, like this is this willbe the first time, and I'm really
interested in this endeavor because it's goingto relate to me a lot, especially
in the next few months. Atthirty years old. You know, do
it? You know my job.No one gets into radio because they want
to make tons and tons of money. Maybe they do, but they work
(44:50):
up to that. No one reallystarts out that way. And this is
the first time, at thirty yearsold, that I'm going to be leasing
an apartment on my own, likeI'm going to be living by myself else
on the least, And I almostfeel like I'm a child again because I
there's all these things like I gottamake sure everything's right ready to move in,
and finding the right spot and budgeting. Like it's not that I don't
(45:12):
necessarily make enough money, it's likeI never really had to budget before because
I lived way below my means.And so when it comes budgeting, soda
saving like you have to save,and a lot of people don't save.
And thank god, that was onething. I'm like, listen, I'll
splurge on a little vacation here andthere. But I'm a very simple guy
and I don't need this. Idon't spend that much money. So I
do have a little savings, butI don't know how to make, you
(45:36):
know, make my money work forme, like put money on top of
money on top of money and investI don't know anything about that. I
almost feel like when you talking aboutlike degrading when people say that, I'm
like, all right, I feellike people who invest, they have expendable
income, they have money to invest. I don't think very few people not.
Maybe there are some that take thatrisk, But for me, I'm
(45:58):
like, I don't know if Iwould maybe risk, you know, not
paying my rent because of someone's businessand day, like you know, for
someone suggesting that I invest in this, some people would, but I don't
know if I would. Right.So we talk about so many different aspects
of just life in general, likebuying and leasing a car in all of
these different things. You know,a mortgage, I kid you not.
(46:20):
I didn't know what a mortgage wasor to refinance your mortgage until I sat
down with a guy who does,who's like a mortgage loan mortgage loaner,
and I learned so much about it. So another cool thing about this podcast
is like I'm learning and hopefully maybeone day I'll become a guru in it.
But yeah, you know when yousay you feel like you're a kid
again, when I really do.Yeah. When I was pitching this idea,
(46:42):
the podcast idea, to a bunchof different people, and you know,
I wanted to test the water seeif maybe they would listen to it.
Everyone was like, this is sucha great idea. I would totally
listen, especially if it's only fifteenminutes twenty minutes long. And then I
was telling some older people and theysaid, you should do it for older
people. Right, my target audienceis definitely a younger crowd. Right,
Let's say, coming out of highschool, coming out of college, you
(47:05):
know, just starting a life,twenties and thirties. But you know,
I had an older person say I'mretired and I don't know what to do
with my money and they're getting allthese spamming phone calls that that are,
you know, trying to take thelittle money that they do have. Yeah,
So I honestly I hope to justbe able to help people in this
area and obviously help myself in theprocess. But I'm excited for this and
(47:30):
the trailer. I think I'm gonnadrop it on my birthday, just a
little audio trailer, and then theepisodes will probably come out. I don't
know if I should give a datejust because but early early July they'll probably
start coming out and they'll be weekly, and I'm just trying to lock down
some sponsors and partners so that thepodcast can stay running and so I can
develop the concept even more. ButI'm having a lot of fun doing it.
(47:52):
And the podcast will be called Moneywith Maverick, Money with Maverick.
Yeah, so you can't you can'tactually go subscribe and go check it out.
Even before it's out there, thereis a I reserved the space,
I guess in the podcasting world.Yeah, I will be following that because
that interests me, because I thinkfinancial independence and financial stability is really really
(48:15):
important. It's something that I didn'tnecessarily grow up with. Like my mom
made a really good money, butshe was a single mom and she did
the best she could with two kids. So you know, I would love
to repay all the hours she putin and all the all the time she
invested, and you know, beable to you know, make sure she's
(48:35):
spending her money properly with retirement oryou know, if I make a little
extra, be able to set herup with, you know, a nice
house or something. I don't Idon't know, well, I don't know
what I would do, but Iwill want to return the favor. I
want to have some for me andsome for other people as well, my
loved ones. So I think that'sthat that's the ultimate dream. That's what
(48:57):
England could ever hope for. It'sbeautiful. My wife and I talked about
that one they being able to repaythe people who have helped us along the
way. Yeah, it's a verybeautiful thing. So I appreciate you coming
in Matick, of course, Cody, Yeah, time, Yeah, I
appreciate it. So with that beingsaid, guys, you've heard it from
Maverick. The trailer will be droppingsoon, so we will keep you posted.
He's a part of the Pound Takepodcast, fam so go follow him?
(49:17):
Where do you want them to followyour both instagrams like the you're the
one you use for yourself and theone you use for your podcast. What
would you like? Yeah, soyou can check me out anywhere. Um
my user name everywhere is at Maverickv Peters the letter V in the middle.
Yeah, come check me out,drop a follow, come say him.
I love meeting new people. Ilove chatting about new things. The
(49:40):
new Instagram. I think it's atmoney with mav, money with Math and
or maybe at money with Maverick.I forgot which one we got. But
again, this is all premature.It's just about to come, and so
I'm excited. I hope you enjoyit. I'm somature. You ended it
with that it's premature, is aboutto come. This literally all like,
I'm sorry, we had to getone in there, one little sexual in
(50:04):
your window. Punt there. Shoot, that's gonna get clipped and I'm ruining
it. It's perfect. Anyways,I appreciate you for coming in, Thank
you guys for listening. As always, you guys can follow me at Radio
Cody b across the Board, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok and yeah that is my puntake
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