I-Octane Talks ‘God & I’ Album, Vybz Kartel, Industry Tensions, Reggae’s Link to Rap + More

I-Octane Talks ‘God & I’ Album, Vybz Kartel, Industry Tensions, Reggae’s Link to Rap + More

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
What's up this way? But angela? Yeah, and look who's
back obtained this back.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Here beautiful, beautiful, I'm here here here, What are you doing.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
I'm doing good. Thank you for asking. Listen, I feel
like more jewelry got at it. This is the last
time I saw you. Yeah, yeah, feels good.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Yeah, man, I feel good. I feel good. I feel
good good. You know, I have life.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Listen. God is good all the time. And when I
tell you, last time you came here, people had things
to say about that interview.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Oh yes, let me let them learn of things to say.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
How much people have things to say? A lot? No,
not a lot, just feel.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Yeah, just a couple. You know, one person in particular
was mad. People were sending it to me.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
That one person.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
And those people are the selective people who always tried
to die sick.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
That's the job, right, And listen, you got God on
your side. So the new album God and I, which
I just preordered, you're going to see that April twenty
fifth and all major streaming platforms. And I saw the
single Opportunists that's been doing amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yes, it's doing amazing, collaboration with me and she, you know,
that's the lead single. From the album and that song
is is a testimony for me and a lot of.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Other people out there. Yeah, you know, because that.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
That song was like my new year, my new Year's
resolution where I tell myself that listen each individual of
twenty four hours, right, and each every day you get
up there, get twenty four or is I get your
brand new twenty four hours to start over? So whatever
you didn't do yesterday, I can do it today. And

(01:49):
you know, I mean eternally your mystics into lessons. But
I come to the realization that as well, I said
previously that my priority is congested and I'm.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Literally not on it.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
So I come to this realization where we can coexist.
I have no beef, I have no problem with you.
We can coexist as long as we understanding, because sometimes
the communication is blurry and it's simple and understanding and understanding.
That that I, you know, conclude is that if I
cannot utilize one minute, one second, one hour a week

(02:29):
a day I hear from your twenty four hours, you
have no access to mine. I feel that you have
no access to mind unless I want to volunteerily do
something in a charity vibe, So you're not gonna come
run me, breach my energy, do everything, come watch my
bill in the house, and then when we turn me bout,

(02:50):
you're steal my material to build somebody else house. In
layman terms, you understand. So we don't have to have
a problem. We just make it clear that once you're
part of me, I am a part of you. See,
it's always yes for them. You know that you always yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
And then if God forbid one day you say no,
You're the worst person on the planet.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
You are the worst.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
I can do a thousand things for you one time,
I don't do it all in a sudden.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
You know what those persons do make you get allergic
to know, right and any individuals, it's allergic to know
something is wrong with you because you cannot say yes constantly.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
So how did you What made you come to this
conclusion now? Because sometimes it's like something happened or you know,
and it can break up long term like friendships, relationships,
things like that when you realize I gotta take care
of me first. Because this is being dubbed there's like
a self love song that everybody needs to hear.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Everybody.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
I've been that things over the last five years, especially
from Jamaica, leaving Jamaica, you know what I mean, checking situation.
I've been in the media about, you know, with the
et cetera, et cetera, and my surrounded was jump back.
And whenever I was accused of certain things where there's

(04:16):
no proof and I didn't do anything like that, a
lot of people was like.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Mmmm, let's see your display off right, And I was
all on my own.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
And the people them that reach out is some people
that I wasn't even looking at, you know what I mean,
I was doing near the first I could even see
the trees in the first and these people that you
know what I mean, I do so much things for you,
help them to build them platform and help them to
build these things. And then I realized I started to

(04:47):
become bitter, like yeah, because my expectation was too high.
So I have to control about myself and control my emotion.
I said, I am the command denominator, So I am
the fact I was the one who who allow these
individuals to have so much more in my life. So
the power, you know, create vacance, vacancy fit for the

(05:09):
blessing that the Almighty have for me, and you know,
really more to him connect more to the universe, connect
more to the almighty, and it's like a birth of fresher.
It's like I'm getting younger and more vibrant and more.
You know, I don't stress anymore. I have stressful situation,
but I'm not a stress person, right, some of just
detach myself. So every time you see me, it's like

(05:31):
a birth of fresh air. I bring a light in
the room because I'm not carrying any toxic vibe.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
You know, expectations are can be a dangerous thing.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
No expectation is a disease, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Because when we have expectations, most of the time we're
going to get disappointed.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
Yeah, because what you do with expectation is a creator
illusion reality are you create an algorithm from your expectation
that you think you're going to sert a living being in.
So you're gonna you create these thing So for instance, saying,
for instance, all right me media, mister, alright, may got

(06:11):
did in a relationship and you may have a certain
expectation of all you're supposed to have for it, and
I don't give you the time to grow. I don't
I don't take the time or to learn who you
are as an individual.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
And it's a total entity by yourself.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
So I like red, and I want to have a
red room, and I want to have these things and
these things, but your favorite color is green, and I
don't want to compromise. And all about compromise and mixed
red and green as well come with it benefit both
of us. I wanted to insert your life in this
red room and red coature and read everything.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
That's a lot.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
And then you know the initiality to get uncomfortable. So
you start up, you create this pro and we have
to live to by me saying not showing me your
true self, right, you know what I mean? So the
expectation of a be very low and allow the person
to show who they are.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
You know, when it comes to the video that you
did for the song to which as last time I
looked at think it was at over three million views
just for the video. So this is your daughters. Can
you talk to me about your daughter and her production company?
What's going on with that part of it?

Speaker 3 (07:20):
Yeah, because nine nine records, she loved music, her mother
is in music. She might shoot the video. She's one
of the number one director in Jamaica and in America.
She she do she do a lot of video for
ever a lot of artists, but she loved music.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
This look a girl.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
I love music and Charltte is wanting and want to produce,
She want to sing, she want to do all of
these things. So I'm doing an album and I was like, yo,
you want to produce this song. I was like, yeah,
I want to produce it.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
And she loved it. So she produced in the video,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (07:51):
And how old is she?

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Five?

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Five years old? And she produced it.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, she love it that. She loved music like that.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
So what's her production style? Like how does that work?

Speaker 3 (08:00):
I mean, that's well she come and said first after
record the song and said it to her and she
was like, yeah, like the melody and she started singing.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
She was like anything, and if I can't sing.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
It, it won't hit that after can sing it like
I can sing, baby shocked, you know what I mean.
So she's telling me that the melody, the melody have
to be repetitive.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
So that's amazing. She's five years old and.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
I sing when I sing it. She said, okay, I
like that.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
And she liked Shane no Pard and the song that's
a collaboration so you know what I mean. And then yeah,
she wanted to do produce it. She wanted to do
music for now, but she wanted the produce inside.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
How do you feel about her being because it's not
an easy business to be in and maybe, as you know,
as a dad, you want to also be protective. How
do you feel about her getting into the music business.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Well, I don't feel in awad because no individual on
earth here?

Speaker 2 (09:00):
What power you of? What here? How? Where they are?
And the demon exide?

Speaker 3 (09:07):
Are you on the side of the lord or whether
there's no power, it's greater than the creator. There's no
individual And as long as you connect with the universe
and can e spiritually, you're protected because we can allow
fear to shape our future, you know what I mean.

(09:27):
So we have just allow of people to do what
they want to do. What I would, I will do,
and our mom will do is embedded these these these
imperative fundamentals that she need growing up, and she can
you know, strong by herself and self reliance is very
is a very great thing to teach your children, you

(09:48):
know what I mean? So they know that then you know,
it's not a dependent type of energy when it keeps
them dependent them, vulnerable to to whatever bad energy world right, Yes,
and they want they lose their identity and just want
to fit in.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
You know, how's your relationship with her mom? Then? I
guess pretty good? Are you guys?

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah? Have a baby man of them good?

Speaker 1 (10:13):
You like, don't now?

Speaker 2 (10:14):
We're good to good.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
I don't really create a bad energy. We disagree if
I agree. Sometimes them call me and you know, like them,
you know, upset about a certain things.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Are you know?

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Sometimes you know, for sending some money about in a
reaching time?

Speaker 2 (10:30):
And I was like, yo, what's wrong?

Speaker 1 (10:32):
The reason for it? In not reaching time? We got
all kinds of ways that we can send money now, yes,
no more Western Union.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
Normal, I'm bun at Western. Yes, I send so much
money that I cannot use units.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
So it's a start. We don't have any bad vibe.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
Earlier on, you know, we were trying to identify ourselves
because earlier on we bought have our own strong point.
I was defending me as a man, like yo, this
journey wasn't you know, I wasn't. I never planned to
work this way. And you know, people is like yo,

(11:12):
but you need to work as a man. So It's
like when it's like somebody put in a situation that
you never want to be, but you realize that you
know what you have to can't complain this man up,
and then you get to love the journey.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yeah, I understand that you have to get.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
To love the journey like a All right, then I
guess dell mighty need this for me.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
This is where we're at. Let's do it to the
best of our ability.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
The best our ability, because what oh, I look at it.
If I bring you down and you bring me down,
who's the commandant denominator?

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Right, We're not together.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
So let's come together, create legacy together, create millions together,
power board. I don't know my child, child mama.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
It's like you like to talk things on the internet.
Let's create a reality show that will both get paid
from it.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
If you want to talk, we might as well make
some money from you.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah, you're crazy, but I'm that type of person.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
You're gonna do it, we might as well do.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
It, right, I'm that type of person. But we're all good.
And I mean wish, not wish. You know, I work
towards the best. I'm not saying I'm perfect.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
As you start the album, off, let everybody know.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
What you far from, far from perfection.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
But always working on it.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Yes, I'm in a working process progress.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
What about this sound nothing without you? Because that's on
the new.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Album Nothing with All is for the ladies.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Anybody in particular, just all the ladies.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
It's all the ladies. It's all the ladies.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
It should be nothing without y'all.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
Yes, because every every individual, every mine. You know, once
you have a female in your life, then that female
should be that person, would you know inspire? If you
have multiple, then they should also inspire.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Sounds good to me.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
You're looking at like multiple, so they.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
All inspire you. Yeah, That's what I'm getting from this.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
No, not me, not me.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
I'm just saying, if you're a person with want, then
if you're a person with multiple, then it's okay.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Now. I've seen also people say that they like what
they're hearing from you because it feels like you're getting
back to how you started. Is that something that you
consciously said you wanted to do?

Speaker 3 (13:39):
Yes, I consciously made this decision, and you know I
was also motivated by my team. You know, they must say,
oh there's I don't really see a next person do
this better? Than you another person do it good, just
as good, But you're good at this, like a great

(14:00):
decide when you're seeing these type of sounds and a
social commentary is really hurting. I know that they're good
in the dancer and you have a lot of dancer
it and you like that vibe you create for the party,
the ladies, et cetera, et cetera. What you know, you
need to put back some some soul, some some inspiration.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
And the people.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
So for a while I was like, you know, I
don't think them want it like that because I was
just watching the market. But watching the market is like
I'm allowing the market to dictate how I work, And
it was it wasn't that I was the one who
just do the product and then introduce it to the
market and then promote it so.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
They like it.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
But no, I'm waiting for the public to validate my
work and that's the wrong way to approach it. So
I just took the poem and just you know, asked
the almighty to create, to bless me and create the
music with me. And that's it time, just me. It's beautiful.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Why do you think that people have such an issue
with like starting off in the genre one way, but
also being able to like expand and do different things,
because it feels like there was criticism like, oh, this
is not the type of artist he's supposed to be,
but why can't you explore all of those different types
of music within.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
But it is only it's only our diaspora. You don't
what I mean, No, Asper, I don't see it.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
The only other time I've seen that being so publicly,
I'm not I'm not saying that ondred percent, but I'm
not hundred percent. It's not undred percent fact while I'm speaking,
but I think eighty percent. Only at the time I've
seen that culture shift and the people was having a
problem is when tail us we leave country and good

(15:45):
curious yes, because they have as this you know, countatist
and she said she wanted diverse. So the country market
was like, no, we need it because they said you
are all a superstar. So I understand from that perspective,
But it's only in our asport when you explore, when
you when you do these things, people have a problem

(16:05):
with you because they want to put you into a
box and always stay as Dramaicans are reggae music and
dance all music users.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Is like.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
We ridicule things that we don't know until we understand it.
So I would come and say, and you were in
that shirt, and I mean I like it. I like it,
but you're consistent to change my perspective, right, so you
don't man ever like it at first.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
But I like it.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
So people always wanted to put you into a box.
But I'm multi talented. I have a whole different type
of sounds, energy, vibe. You know, my vibration is unmuch
is different. You don't have a lot of artists like me, Jamega,
I'm going to repeat it to want to effects. You
don't have a lot of artists like me. You know
where I can do this boath side, so properly, I

(16:51):
don't say I don't have anybody don't have a lot
like me, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (16:54):
So, yeah, I can't stay in one box.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Yeah, it's interesting because also I feel like you should
always look at yourself in a space where look, there's
not a lot of people like me, because you wouldn't
be able to do what you do with everybody was
doing it, right, But then I feel like you say
things like that and then people be like, oh, I
can't believe he said that, and he's you know, I
feel like you in particular, like people take what you
say and dissect it a lot.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
Do you feel that, Yeah, because whenever I speak, I
speak with volume. Man, when person dissect it, they can.
Whenever I speak, I speak with volume and speak with
message behind it. And people take what I say to
create to and sensationalize, sensationalize it just for a clickbit,

(17:43):
you know what I mean. So they're just what the
views from it are. You know, the more the miscunts
true the perspective of what I'm saying. But nine of
what I say I stand by, stood by anyone you
want to use one hundred percent and change it. Because
when whenever I said I don't want to be the

(18:06):
best dance artists, are the best reggae artists, No one
has nothing to say about that. But when I said
I only want to be the best eye acting, people
have a problem with it. When I said I love myself,
people have a problem with it. When I come and
celebrate myself. People have a problem with when I go
live and I tell the people and you speak speak

(18:28):
proper over yourself, read chain yourself, change change the words
them that you use over yourself. Certain things that you
say over yourself is automatically a spell. But people don't
brest mentally to understand where I'm coming from. So when
you say, when you say a lother things over yourself,
you automatically dooming yourself.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Right, So you're wondering why and is the head of me?

Speaker 3 (18:51):
Are you telling yourself that you're more talented like you,
I'm more talented.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
I'm sure that should.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
It's because she with less resources that you say you
have more resources than her. She get you get up
every day, you do the work, you speak properly a
thing positive. But me get up every day completing like
the talk like me. The wrong Him can performed like me,
oinm rich for it on me. Him can sing like me.

(19:18):
Get that colub him and the universe is rewarded. Whatever
your plant.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Listen, last time you were up here, we talked about
Vibes Cartel and he's been here since then, yes too,
and he did move out of Jamaica also, he did
feel like he and I remember you talking about this
as well, and you know you touched on it earlier too,
just being a target for the police and for the
you know, legal situations that can happen, and he was like, look,

(19:48):
he didn't feel like he could be there because of
those issues too.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
What Yes, because we're old spoken, we're old spoken, and
the conscious shift in terms of overall leadership and you
know shift like more like of a Castra type of vibe.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
You know. So free speech is not liberal or if
that's the right word.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
Free speech. You have to know what they do with
free speech in a counture of Jamaica. Now, because just me,
you can just go like this poof you know what
I mean and what you're saying is important to the
world entire country.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
I don't know politics. I don't take scide, but.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
If I have something to say to enhance the nation,
I think I need to say it.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
You know, I use my platform to say it. I don't.
I don't.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
I have nothing personally about against no individual because I
don't know you personally. But if you're running, if you're
seeing Bold is running an ondire in meter, when you're
seeing Bold was doing chuck and field, you have to
represent that lay an one hundred percent, you know what
I mean. So there's nothing, there's nobody of anything personal

(21:07):
unless they know your personal but they see that you're in.
This is this the pros and cans that come with it.
So when you are the leader for the country, people
need for them. People need for because people is going
through a lot of things, you know what I mean.
And vibe Card is a man who go to a
lot of things and he could see the country right,

(21:32):
trust me, he could sue the country and run the
country bankruptcy. He could sue the country over and over
and over. But what would happen on the flip side,
you would not allow the show in the national stadium.
You become a target. Kids them would become a target,

(21:53):
you know what I mean. So you will lose more
the kids them become a target. He become a target,
his family become a target, right because.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
The country would make sure that happened.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
Understand So if you if you show the government, then
the access that them having in the country would have
it in the country, because you know what I mean,
It will come down to that.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
So you are Vibes Card just after.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
Way pros and cons and say, you know what I
did thirteen years I still come out and I people
them still love me. I can pull up the stadium
the same way. You know what I mean, why should
I be penny wise and poorin foolish? You know, all right,
go wrong with me, love it, you know what I mean,
put it aside. But just no, no, no, get by

(22:41):
the same chances with me, and the same chances make
the right decision. The right decision is not to visit
the garrisons, not to visit some place where. Automatically, once
you go, them gonna LaVey as a dian as this
that that. So I'm gonna stay out to this environment.
I'm gonna stay away from this activity. I'm gonna stay
away from this activity. And you know what, let me relocate,

(23:03):
still have my home and jommy about me relocate. Let
me the world becomes my home. Then you cannot put
me at any you can geographically it can place me
at one place. So whatever whatever problem come with that here,
it cannot put it on me, you know. So that's
is all you have to navigate yourself.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
So is that that's how you're navigating to kind of staying.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
At Yeah, I've navigate myself that way.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
Revam just you know, there's low it just move and
chain my life, you know what I Mean's revamp just.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
Yeah, Well the album is called God and I. That's
also the first song on the album. When did you
decide this is going to be with the title.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
Because right now, to be honest, right, no, to be honest,
it's just God and I got and I. So whatever
the Almighty put in my life, whatever God put in
my life, that is what I.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Is supposed to have, you know, I mean, that is.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
What if I'm meet you and we're farmer chemistry and
we start working together and teens that start to materialize,
then w this was a blessing from the alm teamself.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yes, it's God and I.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
Because God will always create the best, best, best, best
best decision for you, you know what I mean. So
I was like, I was coming to do this interview
and and the eyeway I was driving and a truck
was run boop crash in front of and I said,
and I was like, you know, she calling me yo,

(24:32):
you're gonna be late. You're gonna be late. And I
was like, God, this was something fair eaes And then
it rewrote me twenty minutes. And then when I rewrote,
I got somewhere as and rewrote the next fifteen.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Minutes and losing time. I'm a god.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
Maybe if the if the accident never happened, then maybe
I would be the one in the accident, right, because
sometimes we as human beings, we cannot.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
See the ant scene.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
The protection yes, or sometimes the almighty is slow. You
don't just stop to prevent you because yes, our next
individual is in the accident. Not individual can manage that situation.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
Currently, I want to read something that you wrote yes
on your page, because this, you know, also has to
do with you saying this is going to be your
most personal album to date. You said you're going to
make it out the struggles. You're not gonna make cement
for the rest of your life. You're going to make

(25:30):
it to places you haven't even started dreaming about yet.
And you also said you're gonna fuck bread and watch
some top girl. Imagine like you didn't write that.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Said you know the accent that was like yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
It sound different when you say you know yeah, and
get the mansion, Panda Hill and so listen, have you
accomplished all of those things?

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Well, the album is just in a make Let's see
what I feel, let's do what I speaking.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
These things into existence. But you also had talked about
how this has been a really difficult time for you.
And there's certain things that people may not even know
that you have going on, you know, in your life,
and on the surface it looks like everything is going great.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Yeah, because.

Speaker 3 (26:27):
I've been and that people don't know because I don't
say it. I just say what they have been announced
with that I the two kidneys surgery of you know,
go to a lot, And it's not even about welt.
It's not even about wet because I'm a money machine.
I can't make money like easily. It's not even about
welter appearance because whenever I walk in a room, I'm

(26:50):
like it that I'm that type of person. I can
sell a lot to a web I'm that type of person.
So it's not even that. It's just that, you know,
as an as an individual, your coexists for a reason
because other energy is imperative to your existence, you know

(27:12):
what I mean. And then sometimes it's like you're living
in our world by yourself. You're living our world by yourself.
So it's like every other thing when you when you
when you when you analyze your life, it's like everything
moved because of your emotion. So when can I move
from a next motion? Some dat does want to move

(27:34):
because of our reaction instead of your action brings forth
a reaction.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
So I've been through it that. I've been through that
a lot.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
What have you had to do health wise? Now?

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Well, I'm very healthy.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
It's just that my body produce more potassium, more calcium
than potassium. I don't remember, but I think, yeah, more
calcium than potassium. So give me like huge, huge, huge, huge,
huge kidney stones.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
That's painful.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Oh my god, you don't want that?

Speaker 1 (28:09):
Yeah, I don't because I heard too much about it.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Oh my god, cream my, but I cry.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
I rue.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
When as that everybody.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
The nurse was like, no, you gotta give Yeah, they
give me like mad like painkiller, like six bugs of
doctor was like and.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Taking py careless and scary too because people get addicted
to those so easily.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
The doctor come and said, no, man, everybody extra strong
like six buds and you're still feeling pain. Yeah, man,
so rough. I'm passing that utar, then flushing that dat
then doing a circle, trust me.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
So it so it's rough.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
So it's not even about the hell twise, just that
sometimes your body produced more than the other.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
Right, you know, So is there anything like what can
you do in your daily life though, because sometimes.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
More I'm caloum too about just it's just my Yeah,
I've just had more to it. It's not I don't smoke,
I don't drink, I don't you know, eat meat, I
don't know a lot of things. So after that, maybe
that supplement more in my diet.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
And the second song is thankful and this, this whole
album is definitely because I got a little sneak peek
and it is really all about gratitude.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
It's all about gratitude and about awareness of your surrounding
and who because his album is it's strictly about one thing,
and it's human being and how we're uperate, you know,
including myself, because along the way I find I find
myself where I could classify myself as one of the

(29:45):
most ungrateful human beings when it comes to life, Like
when I recollect you, you're very ungrateful enough when it
comes to life. Not with a next human being. More
just life is like we get up every day and
I just like I just give life a sub praise,

(30:07):
like you know, like value of life. Just by the way,
and we don't mean annealing and next ceiling. Nothing can
happen with all that. So the first the first thing ever,
you're supposed to celebrate his life, which is God, you understand.
So I always wake up in the morning and all right, Father,

(30:27):
I got thank you to wake me up this morning.
But yet still everything else may precisely do it. But
do this, go to the bank, we do that, We
do this, Peter girl Bill, Peter Careen know the send
a girl at school, take care of my kids.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
Right, there's this that everything.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
And when I got oh, I got thank you, and
I don't even complete complete a sentence. And life sources everything,
you know what I mean. So I was like, Yo,
I've been and I've been ungrateful. What life still be
grateful to me?

Speaker 2 (31:01):
You know? Mis a better person.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
Who really will missing people more connected with life, connect
to the Almighty, exit.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
The world already.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
But I'm still here being being ungrateful. So I said, no,
I feel being grateful to life. And then that's my
different are different, like how I fit things. It makes
you know, it mat me. Just see a lot of
things trivia.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
I know you know. It don't move me.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
It don't affect me like that, you know, because life
is everything.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Listen, this album sounds like you're in that space of
just like you said, taking care of yourself, being grateful,
you know they can getting back to all of that.
It also feels like right now is a great time
for reggae and dance all just based off of.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Yes, it is a beautiful time for reggae, you.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
Know, globally for them to see the numbers that because
I think sometimes people act like, oh, this person can't
sell out and just seeing people for the first time
doing things like pfmance at the Root the Roots Picnic
or seeing the Barclays you know, the way that it
was and seeing everybody also a lot more people being
able to travel that before I couldn't travel the way
that they can now. So how do you how do

(32:12):
you feel with that energy having this album coming out,
you know, God and I at a time when it
feels like the demand is up here finally where it
needs to be.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
Because always saying this over the years, it is not
the talent and it's not the music, because this is
my opinion and a lot of people opinion, and it's factual.
A lot of place reggae music and dancesall music is
a stem from reggae music, but reggae music slash danceall music.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Is the biggest music in the world. Is the biggest
music in the world.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
Rap was created from reggae, this number one genre which
is roped with everybody doing America. Do the research, all
rap artists in the world, do the research where rap
music came from.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
This always turned into a big debate.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
I'm telling you right, rap music came from that reggaetton Yeah,
well definitely, Yeah came from that.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
Reggaeton came from that. When I say rap music, I
don't mean I don't mean the structure of the radio.
It's just the vibration the person. Come to Jamaica and
see the sound system and cooler comment you see the
song system or the selected don't play, I don't play,
and bring back to America song system play the music
you know created and that's where people start to rap

(33:34):
like an artist DJ and that is where it derived from,
you know what I mean. So, and then reggaeton now
derived from the music.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
Yeah, I love reggaeton. I love I don't even know
what they say sogg reggae.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
So the rap music I'm derived from the end of
the vibe from jama.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
Before you came here, I was showing you. I was
playing the song you have a Bad Bunny.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Yeah, my bad boy. I'm a bridget. When beigame up,
we have sung with him and things.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
So and Daddy Yankee, I think, daddy, yeah, it's not
the same song. So yeah, the vibe and then the
reggaeton is created from the beat. The beat itself, you
know what I mean, drawing rack came from dancer and
reggae music. But what happened is that we never have
an infrastructure up to today. They we never organized.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
We don't.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
We don't have that infrastructure. It's like all rap music
of infrastructure and reggaeton of this. And you know African
music now afrobid is structured. You know we we we
never have that. So we start to structure. Now we're
all right to put the artists. We'll start promoting the

(34:44):
artists as a package. So the fans them, no, see
unite every single fun now where we never find it Africa.
But just because my thing is structured.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
No, you know what I mean, it's like selling this label.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
Yes, call what I'm saying. We don't understand it layman
terms of selling something like this label. And just yeah, person,
I was like but if you're label it, it's the
same thing. If you're label it.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
It's more appealing, like it's get that.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
Yeah, I mean, so is that what that is what
we're doing now, And it's a great accomplishment for the
world entire genre. And I am glad to be alive
at this moment where I can also capitalize and contribute
my energy towards it too.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
Well, you've been putting it down for decades now, so years. Yeah,
shout out to you for that end.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
Even just from studies, they've shown that in Jamaica they
have the most the most artist per square foot is
and anywhere else in the world, just all the stars
that have come anywhere else.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
We're very talented. As a Jamaican. I always said, it's
to every Jamaican, even.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
The ones you don't get along with.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
Even though yeah, even the ones I don't get along with. No,
even the one that don't get along with me.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Okay, they don't get along with you because it ain't you.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
No no, no, no no.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
Because to be honest, to be honest, you're lucky if
you see me, like you'll be lucky if you see me,
because I don't party I don't do this. You will
see me at a statue and stage is me alone,
and so you will see me at that stage if
we're under statue. But like the work my business really
and if even if we're working together, we'll work over

(36:20):
the phone too. So I will send it a bit
and with advice and me vice and correspond and we'll
do the phone thing and we are a changer, do
this this and synchronize the energy together and come up beautiful.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
But a lot of people.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
Don't see me in real life years and we don't
have a conversation like may having a conversation like this,
So everything is just opinion based.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
It's like is that something you feel like you'll be
open to having a conversation.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
A lot of these individuals, they are literally cowards in
real life.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
A lot of people say a lot of.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
Things to you and when you see them, turning on
them head like them.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Never.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
Yeah, Like you have one particular artist who sell out
of things talking talking talking, all right, I'm walking by
a flight mane in flight and sit on beside him
and he does show the blanket over and made and
fly a chair.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
Now in the move as well.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (37:22):
In the move, but I kind of stay away from
them type of activity because he took a boy along
back to me being a young leader, right, they're gonna
use that again. Yeah, Now you gotta acted a young
leader acting at this. Yeah, acted have too much gangster
friends and I don't want them to hurt all of

(37:43):
these things. I just stay away from them type of
activity there.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
You know.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
Now I'm an moved to take it down and try
to tow the tour just to prove upon into the
public because they're, you know, spreading a narrative to the public.
Say you wanted the damage. Can't show what right now,
I don't even care what people.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
Think, right, it's gotten you got.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
And I you're right, I don't really I don't really care,
you know what I mean, because anybody will think that's
we're automatically I gonna think that's weird, you know what
I mean. Yeah, Well, thank.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
You so much. I appreciate you for coming. I know
you've got a ton of other things. You've been in
New York. You're doing your press. I got the album
God and I is out on the twenty fifth, So congratulations.
Always love talking to you.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
Yes, I know we.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Could do this for hours you got so yeah, we
definitely could, but I appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
I appreciate the pre and I appreciate the PREUD of
the box list up give thanks.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
It's the Whey pre ordered that

Speaker 2 (38:39):
Way.