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April 14, 2025 41 mins

Dr. Judith Joseph teaches us about high-functioning depression. 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You are.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
What I call her? Ye.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Hey, it's way up with Angela. Yee, way up. Oh
look who's here with me? Thank goodness, Jasmine Brand is
here today.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
I'm my own brand, Hey, Angela.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
And when I tell you, guys, I have been up
all night, you have, you have. And there's a story
behind this. I guess we'll talk about it and about
last night.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
We have to, because I still have questions and I
was there.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
I know, And I'm just glad Jazmin's here today. Let's
just say that. But we do have doctor Judith Joseph
joining us today, and she's amazing. She has a book
about high functioning depression and she's the first person to
study something like this and to like put a real.

Speaker 4 (00:49):
Name to it.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Okay, I've never heard that, Sime before.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
So we'll talk about it and to know if you suffer,
because sometimes of depression.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
You don't even realize that you're in it.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
That you're in it, because you just feel like, let
me just keep going. I gotta work to achieve this.
I gotta do that. I'll survive, right, and you don't
even realize. So glad that she'll be joining us today.
A lot going on, but let's start the show off
with some love and positivity.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
We got to yep, it's a Monday. You gotta be money.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Well, you got this.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
I was having a case of the Mondays, but I
think I'll be okay.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
But call us up.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Eight hundred two nine two fifty one fifty. Let us
know who you want to shine a light on. We're
going to shine a light on somebody who we actually
met this morning.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
Yes, we ad one thousand percent deserves it. It's way up.

Speaker 5 (01:29):
I'm turn your lights on, y'all, spreading love to those
who are doing greatness.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Shine the light on, Shine the light on.

Speaker 5 (01:38):
It's time to shine a light on.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
All right, it's way up with Angela.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yee, I'm here. My girl, Jasmine brand is here. And
I had quite a night last night.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
I've been up since around like one thirty this morning.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
And that's all because someone crashed into my car in
the middle of the nights and did and did. We'll
talk about that more and about and about last night.
But I want to shout out to Mika Boo and
it gets why you're saying it gets contacted. We're on
the train this morning, so clearly, but we could always
be on the train, but I felt this morning, we
were definitely taking the train, and I was a little

(02:14):
irritated because I've been up and I've been dealing with
insurance and this and that. But while we were on
the train, we met Mikaboo because she works for a
transit hair in New York, and she got up out
of her seat, and you know, that's a big deal
on the train that's crowded in the morning.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yeah, I was like, who oh, she's leaving her seat
for you. Okay, I got it.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
So she came over to speak to me and she
was just saying, you know that she listens to the show.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
It's an inspiration.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
And then she shared with me something heartbreaking that she
went through and how tough it's been for her.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
But she felt like it was a sign.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
And then I felt like she was a sign for
me because I was going through, you know, just feeling
bad for myself.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Well, it puts things into perspective, right.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
And it put things into perspective, so you never know
what somebody else is going through. And so I just
wanted to shout out to Mikaboo, thank you for cheering.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
Up my day today. Now, Sandy, who do you want
to shine a light on I.

Speaker 6 (03:00):
Want to sign the light on my little sister, Alexandria. Okay,
I'm so proud of her. She's graduating college before she
graduated high school.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
Wait? What she is graduating college before high school?

Speaker 6 (03:10):
Yes, ma'am. How he took like these dual romment classes
during her junior year, which she's in her junior year now,
so she don't graduate in the next the following what
twenty twenty six? Uh huh, But she's graduating college this year.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
May shesh.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
Okay, Alexandria. I was saving money for the family too
on that college education.

Speaker 7 (03:30):
Yes, maam.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
What's her what's her degree.

Speaker 6 (03:33):
Going to be in medical and colding?

Speaker 4 (03:35):
Oh, that's something we always need.

Speaker 6 (03:37):
Okay, that's ma'am.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
All right.

Speaker 6 (03:39):
I just wanting to shine a light on her and
let her know that she's doing good and hard work days.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
All right, we shout out to you, Alexandria. Thank you
Sandy for calling. That's amazing.

Speaker 6 (03:49):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
That was Shina Light eight hundred and two ninety two
fifty one fifty And when we come back, we were
talking about this already this morning. Yes, but the Blue
Origin space flights that actually took off today.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Wow, that's a big that's major, that's a big deal.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
This is the one where you see Gil King, Katy Perry,
Lauren Sanchez, all these people on this flight.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
We'll talk about it.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
It's way up, It says rooms from industry shade.

Speaker 8 (04:15):
To all of gossip out angelas spilling that eet all right.

Speaker 4 (04:20):
This way up with Angela. Yee, I'm here, Jasmine Brand
is here.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
I'm not just Ninny Brand, I'm my own brand.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
And this morning we were carefully watching this whole Blue
Origin space mission.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
I was a little nervous. I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
Gail King was a little nervous. I'm sure all the
ladies were nervous.

Speaker 9 (04:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
This is the first all female crew in more than
sixty years. So it's six women who did this. And
that also included Gil King, Katie Perry, Lauren Sanchez, who's
engaged to Jeff Bezos, who is the founder of Blue.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Origin, got his baby on there.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
I'm not Madithat also on NASA rocket scientist Aysha bo,
bio astronautics research scientist Amanda Gwynn, and film producer Carrie
Anne Flynn.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
That's a nice, uh, well well thought out group.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
Well, Oprah was very emotional before this flight took off.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
You call it a flight, yes, a flight, the space flight. Yeah,
took off. Launch, launch, the launch, you're right, lunch there
you go before I launched. And here's what happened.

Speaker 10 (05:20):
All subhassernauts are going to start to feel the weightlessness, and.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Sure after we're going to let them on.

Speaker 4 (05:27):
And that right there is the most critical milestone of
this whole assent.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Oprah watching her best friend go to space.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
Now, call me silly. I thought this was going to
last for like a month, but they came back. It
was like about ten minutes. When you told me, I
was like, really, you thought it was No, it was
ten minutes and thirty seconds because they took off and
I was like, wow, when are they coming back?

Speaker 4 (05:48):
And then I looked and they were back.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
Would you cry if your best friend went up to
what launch?

Speaker 3 (05:55):
I guess no, Okay, it's a decision. But I get
being nervous.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
That's exciting, it is.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
I'm also not a crier like that.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
I'm definitely gonna cry. Yeah, yes you are, now, Gail King.
When they landed, she was kissing the literal ground. Here's
what that sounded like.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
I am around.

Speaker 5 (06:24):
Appreciate for justice.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Oh my gosh. Wow. Yeah, that's really once in a lifetime.

Speaker 4 (06:36):
It is like, would you do it again?

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Would you do it at all? Angela?

Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yeah, I was like, we should have been here, we did,
we did come down, but yeah, so and this is
also representative of so many different things I saw. Gail
King did an interview where she talked about how this
really shows boys what you know, young little boys, but
girls are capable of because, like we said, the only
other time this happening was a solo woman going on
a mission. Said, this was a woman crew going on that.

(07:02):
So they said, you know, they're very proud of how
this all happened. Lauren Sanchez and I hope that more
people get to see this because I don't even know
how much is going to change me.

Speaker 4 (07:11):
And I want to thank the Blue team.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
They also look flying.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
It's also about overcoming your fear. All right, well that
is your Yet when we come back, we have about
last night and what a night it was.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
It's way up, so about.

Speaker 11 (07:22):
Last night, yes, I went down.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
It's way up at Angela, ye, and it is time
for about last night. So I do want to add
a great weekend. I went to Atlantic City. It started
off like that. I went to go see Jeron boost Ennis,
Philadelphia's own Whoop Stanionis. It didn't even make it the
full twelve rounds and so it was a really great fight.
He actually, I will say this with Boots, he was

(07:50):
kind of doing a lot of showboating.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
In the ring.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
He was entertaining, you, I was entertaining, and I think
it only went to like the seventh round and he
Stanionis had to stop the fight because he was getting
beat up so bad his nose was bleeding.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yes, you love boxing. I can't. It's just kind of
tough for me to watch sometimes.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
I mean, you know what, it's not just beating someone
of his skill too, like the skill that comes with it.
And so I want to thank Everett who hooked us
up and my guy Rob who also hooked us up
to make sure that we were able to go to
the fight.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
Spent the night in Atlantic City. The fight was amazing.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
It was a great one, and I went to go
eat at the Simpson which is inside Sea is a
Black Caribbean restaurant.

Speaker 4 (08:27):
Shout out to Chef Simpson. He's been up here on
way up before.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
And he also has a restaurant right across the street
from the Barclays and he's about to open in Miami.
To have a black OneD Caribbean restaurant inside of a
casino in Atlantic City.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
That's like, that's a big deal.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
It's such a huge deal.

Speaker 6 (08:43):
I saw.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
I saw that I Wallow and Gilly were at the fight.
Of course they have his hat on.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
Yes, he did. You know, there was a little scuffle.
I don't know what happened.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Listen, it's always a situation with it.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
All I know is I was sitting like perpendicular to
where they were, and I just saw some activity over there.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
He saw some activity.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
Yes, I saw some activity going down.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
You go, when you go to these spikes, it be
it can get active really quick.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
And then last night while I was fast asleep, I
went to bed early to be prepared for work, and
someone hit my car last night while it was parked
on the street.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
But not just my car, like five cars.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
So I just give a little bit more contact. So
the doorboall rings at like one thirty in the morning.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
Yes, okay, thank you Kristin for coming to check on me.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
She wanted to let me know because It happened by
her place, and her car got hit because she was
parked in front of my car.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
So when they hit my car, it made me hit
her car.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
So just a.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
Lot I've been so I've been up since then.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
Thank God.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
You have insurance, Thank goodness. And that is one thing
I want to say for everybody listening. Make sure your
insurance is intact. Everything that you need is there, because
you never know.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
I was minding my business.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
I was just about to say, your car was just mining.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
Her minding her business. She was sleep she.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Was chilling, she was trying to get her right ready.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
For working a Monday.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
It was so yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
So now I'm just waiting to find out everything. I
can't get the police report for a couple of days.
But you know, blessings that nobody was hurt.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yep, nope, yep.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
And I think the.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
Person got arrested from what I'm hearing, because you know,
everybody's hitting me up telling me different things about what happened.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
But I did go outside. I did, Uh, you know,
the cops were still there when I came outside.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Look, the whole block came out, So it wasn't from
there were other cars hit too. Fire Yeah, a lot.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
Well, that is about last night when we come back.
Tell us a secret. Eight hundred two nine two fifty
one fifty. Call us up and tell us a secret.
Maybe you did a hit and run and not somebody's
car that was parked on the street. No, never do that. Yes,
that made me realize. I'm grateful that it wasn't that situation. Yeah,
but call us up and tell us a secret. Eight
hundred two nine to two fifty one fifty. Anything that

(10:44):
you want to tell us. It's a no judgment zone.
Eight hundred two nine two fifty one fifty. Its way up.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
This is a judgment free zone.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Tell us a secret.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
I know that's right. It's way up.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
Jasmine brand is here with me, not just my own brand,
and we're really good at keeping secrets. I do want
to say that if I tell you something and I'm like,
don't say anything. We were talking about that when Sint
Santana was pregnant, Yes, and I ran into her. Yes
you did, and I will be like, Jasmine, guess what happened,
But don't say anything. I'm like, but yeah, you Yeah.

(11:18):
We always have all kinds of time.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
Listen, Honestly, you have the best team but obviously I
can't do nothing with it.

Speaker 4 (11:23):
Yeah, yeah, but you know, I gotta let it out.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
And and it's a rule of dumb if you tell
me a secret and confidence, I'm not going to go
to the air with it.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
That's just where it is.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
And you can't go to the air, and I can't
go on my platform.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
And then I forget, And so your secret's really safe.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
But today is a space for you to feel like,
let me get this burden off of me, let me
tell a secret.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
It's a no judgment zone.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
And you are Anonymous eight hundred two ninety two fifty
one fifty Hey, anonymous, call it?

Speaker 4 (11:48):
How are you?

Speaker 7 (11:49):
Hey?

Speaker 5 (11:50):
Are you doing?

Speaker 4 (11:51):
I've been better? You want to tell us a secret?

Speaker 12 (11:53):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (11:53):
I do.

Speaker 4 (11:55):
Why are you laughing?

Speaker 1 (11:56):
And what's so funny?

Speaker 7 (11:57):
Because I just turned you on your radio and I
signed wipe somebody car?

Speaker 5 (12:05):
You know you didn't, Yes, I did.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
Where are you right now?

Speaker 1 (12:08):
And stop it?

Speaker 10 (12:09):
So?

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Why why? Why did you did it happen in the
middle of the night?

Speaker 12 (12:13):
Did it?

Speaker 1 (12:13):
Why did you not stop? I want to know why
you just kept it pushing you know why?

Speaker 7 (12:17):
I have my mom in the car with me, and
I was seeing up aside street. We was having a
good time and my ax will end up breaking and
I fast wiped the car and I throw my eyes
up to and I just kept going.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
How long ago is this?

Speaker 5 (12:31):
This was like two weeks ago?

Speaker 4 (12:32):
Oh this is recent. Do you feel bad about it? Yes?
I do.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Okay, he has some remorse, But you do not have
that person's information.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
His mama was like, keep going, keep going, keep driving.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
What if your mama telling you I'll be using that
against you, like that car.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Give me some money, take the store. Who I'm telling.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
You should feel? We're going through right now. Imagine if
I wouldn't have had that person's information.

Speaker 5 (13:04):
Look, and it was a bend.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
So oh, I mean you you had the bins or
you hit a bend, hit a bends.

Speaker 7 (13:09):
I hit a bend. I was in, I was in
the power.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
You probably had no no damage or your car. Nobody
was hurt though, see nobody.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
My situation made you feel like calling in today? Yeah,
here to.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Get it off his chair.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
Oh my gosh, find this person's number. No kidding, all right, Well,
thank you.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
For the house every other day.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
Oh my god, So you know I think you should go.

Speaker 7 (13:40):
The Luckily don't have a ring camera.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Oh my gosh, they gonna find you.

Speaker 7 (13:48):
They didn't have a camera though.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
All right, hold this for evidence. All right, thank you
for calling, Like, why did I do that? Well, that
was tell us a secret eight hundred fifty one fifty
of course, you know you can leave a message and
tell us a secret that way, and when we come back,
we have your yee te. You ready for some Diddy news? Yes,
all right, Well, these freak off videos, they may be

(14:11):
shown at trial. But whose side is this gonna benefit?
We'll discuss its way up, sure about the lead about.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
This, but let's get it.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Oh yeah, angelus feeling that yee te Come and get
the tea.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
It's way up at Angela. Yee I'm here, my girl
Jasmine brand is here really not just on my own brand? Yes,
all right, and let's get into some of this yee te.
So Diddy in his upcoming federal sex trafficking trial, what
they may do is actually show video from these alleged
freak off parties. Okay, Now, Diddy's legal team submitted a questionnaire.
There's potential jurors. They submitted this on Friday, right, right,

(14:47):
and there's a question about whether they would watch sexually
explicit content or videos that depict a physical assault, and
they also asked, how do you feel about non monogamous
sexual relationships?

Speaker 1 (15:00):
I would like to see. I'm not on the jury,
but I would like to see because I'm nosy. But
also this could help Diddy well.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Prosecutors think that this video, these videos will show that
he coerced, drugged, and trafficked women into non consensual sexual acts.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
Sometimes these involved higher prostitutes.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
But Diddy's team thinks his footage will help him because
it shows that they were consensual and that these are adults,
and so he feels he'll be exonerated.

Speaker 4 (15:27):
I don't know what's on these tapes, and.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
The mere fact that they're saying that maybe we should
show these means that they're confident that this is going
to show consent.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
I wonder if they have seen all the tapes that
are going to be shown, because it also depends on
what tapes are shown up.

Speaker 4 (15:40):
Apparently he has footage of everything.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
And who gets to pick the tapes? I want to
know that you know what I'm saying, like which who?

Speaker 4 (15:45):
Because I feel like prosecutors they've sees those tapes.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
I don't know what tapes, so they're gonna pick tapes
that are not beneficial to Ditty's case.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
Right of course they are. Yeah, Okay, okay. Now let's
get into Soldier Boy. He's saying that his sexual assault
lawsuit was a setup and he feels the Illuminati is involved.
He also feels like it was only a matter of
time before they tried to take him down.

Speaker 4 (16:05):
We talked about his case. They found him liable. It's
a civil case.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
This past Thursday, they ordered him to pay four million
dollars in damages. According to Jane Doe. She says that
she was regularly raped and beat by Soldier Boy and
sometimes kidnapped. She was hired as his assistant. He says
it's not true and that he had no chance because
it was an all white jury. Here's what else he
said that Sam.

Speaker 13 (16:30):
Nigga, they mad at me. Any Illuminati industry's coming from me?
If I really uh section of sorry Wyan and Jill,
then go tell the police to come lock me up.
A system is broken and she set.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Up for Black the Field. They did it the Michael Jackson,
they did it, the he did he.

Speaker 9 (16:47):
They did the R.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Kelly, they did the Bill Cosby. They did it to
all the black. They did it to everybody.

Speaker 5 (16:53):
God damn it.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
I've been for how long and they had to put
some on me. They had to lie on me some
kind of way.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
This's not helping his case.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
No, I don't know if comparing yourself to someone who's
already in jail for but I guess that's what he's
trying to say.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
It's a conspiracy.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Whenever, whenever someone says illuminati, I just kind of like,
I'll stop listening.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
And then he also want to knowbhy they didn't put
hm jail because this is a civil case, and I
know a lot of times people do civil cases because
what you have to prove isn't the same as what
you have to prove in a criminal case. And they
did believe her based off of pictures, yeah, and and
other things as well, So you know, we'll see. I
know he's appealing, So we're following everything that's happening, and
that is your yet. Of course, this is sponsored by Socony,

(17:34):
not Seconi.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
Okay, okay, just so you know, I know everybody says Sacony,
but it's sponsored by Socony. Y'all even got me sometimes I.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Did not know that's how it really pronounced.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
Yeah, why y'all have me questioning myself, okay, because people
will swear up and down.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
So how do you say it in socony?

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Socony?

Speaker 4 (17:47):
Yes, so you can go to soccony dot com. I
love my socany.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
And when we come back under the radar, we'll be
talking about these stories that are not necessarily in the headlines.
They're flying under the radar, and I mean flying because
we've been up and down with these terrorist I don't
know what's happening, but.

Speaker 4 (18:01):
We want to make sure we always keep you updated.
It's way up. Take the news.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
News.

Speaker 5 (18:06):
This in the news that relates to you.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
These stories are flying under the radar.

Speaker 4 (18:11):
It's way up. But Angela, ye, I'm here, Jasmine brand
is here.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
I'm not just I'm my own brand.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
Oh what a stressful time it has been. Let's get
into these under the radar stories. So US docs did
rise a little bit as they said that the exemption
for tariffs on smartphones, computers, and various electronics imported from
China is happening. But I think it's only going to
be temporary. You know, there's a lot of like we're
not exactly sure what's going on. So we have one

(18:37):
hundred and forty five percent tariff raid on imports from
China that was announced on Wednesday and posed on Wednesday.
The exemptions do not apply to the twenty percent tariff
on imports from China that have to deal with smartphones, computers,
also trying to use Angela.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
It's a lot going on.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
Yes, but there's also still confusion around this now. According
to the Commerce Secretary, Howard Lutnik, he said yesterday, that's
only a temporary reprieve. As far as the exemptions for electronics,
they're included in the semiconducted tariffs.

Speaker 4 (19:11):
Those are coming in probably a month or two.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
So while it may be not the one hundred and
forty five percent right now, and a month or two
we'll find out what it's going to be exactly.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
So we need to know.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
Another thing that's happened. They said, gold has soared this year.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
Investors are looking for safe havens, and so that has
serged more than twenty one percent this year. All right, now,
let's discuss this woman in Monique Lockett. She was dealing
with a lot of stress and anxiety. She's a twenty
five year veteran of the Social Security Administration and she
was just stressed out about her fate at her job,

(19:48):
felt devalued, worried about her colleague. She was only five
years from retirement, but there's been sweeping changes to the
federal workforce and she ended up passing away.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
On the job. Oh my gosh, heartbreaking.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
According to her sister, her final days were spent in
a climate of fear and stress while feeling devalued, and
she died two months ago on the job. They said,
it was very upsetting that she had to go through
the things that she went through. And the problem is
that she had hypertensive atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease that's a build
of a plaque in the arteries, but that also can

(20:24):
get worse.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
And by stress. Yeah, stress is not helping that at all.

Speaker 4 (20:27):
Yeah, so that's something they said. They don't know exactly.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
It's impossible to know exactly what factors triggered her health
emergency that particular day, but chronic stress can increase that risk.
And a lot of people around her yet, and they said,
there's a lot of people that are uncertain about what's
going on with their jobs right that work for the
federal workforce, that are now dealing with a lot of
this stress that they've been having as far as the

(20:51):
fear that they're living in not knowing if they're valued
in the workplace, having to keep on checking and even
on the weekends.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
To see if you go have a job Monday.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
To also let people know what you're doing at work,
because they're trying to figure out what's fraud, what's going on,
who's not doing their job, and so as part of that,
people are being hit up even on the weekends to
have to answer to what's going on at work.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Let me just say this, I live in DC and
it's you know, it's a lot of federal workers that
are live and reside and work in DC, and it
always feels like it's a lot of uncertainty.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
Mental health professionals who are treating federal employees say that
there's a climate of wrenching fear for people that are
still in the federal government and there's a sense of
I'm constantly being watched and I know there's a lot
I can do wrong, but I don't know what those
things are. Oh, that's awful, all right, Well, that is
you're under the radar, and that is sponsored by Socony,
not Socony. Socony and we do have the way it

(21:42):
makes at the top of the hour, do.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
We have a guest today? Okay?

Speaker 3 (21:47):
Oh perfect, Doctor Judith Joseph is going to be joining us.
She is actually a psychiatrist as well. Yes, and she's
going to be talking to us about depression.

Speaker 4 (21:56):
It's way up. She's like to talk like they ANGELI
like Angela.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Man, she's spilling it all.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
This is yeaky way, it's way y'all. Put Angela. He
I'm here. Jasmine Brand is here.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
On my own brand.

Speaker 9 (22:12):
I know.

Speaker 4 (22:13):
That's why I let him know. Nerd rap All right,
and let's get into it right away.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
So Drake sat down with Eddin Ross and talked about
a lot of different things, including the fact that he
does have.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
New music on the way. Here's what he said about
a solo project.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
But yeah, shout out to everybody that's that's streaming the album.

Speaker 8 (22:33):
Thank you, thank you so much every time, every time,
every Journey working on a new album.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Right now it's once slot already solo.

Speaker 8 (22:41):
Adam Yeah, and then shout out to everybody that that's
been showing us love though for real on every song,
shout out to everybody that's coming a Wiles fan.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
We love you so much.

Speaker 4 (22:52):
Okay, and you know, people think Drake is over, but
he is still like breaking all kinds of records with
streaming numbers.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
And Drake can make a hit. Yeah, you can make
a hit, so.

Speaker 4 (23:03):
All right now. In addition to that, he talked about
what he is most proud of.

Speaker 9 (23:08):
Okay, the work you're most proud of come on, which,
by the way, I'll tell you the same nothing nothing
was the same, okay or honestly never mind really yeah,
because nobody believed.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
But no, I don't want to downplay any album. Every
album is just like a like a like turning the page.

Speaker 9 (23:25):
But love that.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
It's just like sometimes it's not it's not going to
be what it.

Speaker 11 (23:30):
Wasn't in chapter two, you know, I understand or like
even like even maybe maybe don't think of it like that,
maybe think of it like it's like it's not going
to be what it was like when you first like
met Harry Potter, right.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Okay, I like the Harry Harry Potter analogy.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
Well, he did tell Anon Ross that he would put
a stream with him weekly and play unreleased songs.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
That's dope. That's a good look for his own boy.

Speaker 4 (23:53):
Yeah, homeboy exactly.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
Another thing that happened is Vibes Cartel sold out the
Barclays Theater over the weekend with the Barclays Center over
the weekend, back to back shows.

Speaker 4 (24:05):
You know, they wanted him to do a third show,
but he was like, no, okay. It was insane. When
I tell you, everybody was out there.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Vibes bought the Vibes and I saw the clip of
so Far crying.

Speaker 4 (24:15):
He was so far. She was crying.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Literally, so Far is so fun I'm sorry I shouldn't laugh.
So Far it's so funny.

Speaker 4 (24:20):
He's so dramatic. And when I tell you, Cardi b
was definitely there having the time.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
He looked amazing too.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
He brought out everyone on stage I need all one time.
It was outside.

Speaker 9 (24:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
So in addition to that, though, backstage, I saw my guy,
mister Morgan was there from OO and he gifted Vibes
a chain courtesy of Drake.

Speaker 12 (24:42):
Oh yeah, do you extend just so barkles twice back
to back like Georgia ninety six ninety seven.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
To man, he got a lot of chain already too,
So just want to say add that to the chains
all right now. In addition to that, let's talk about
Real Housewives of Atlanta. You and I have been talking
about this all that line. Yes, you know as well
with Brett Aidie and what she's been going through with
the pictures being shown of her. When Kenya Moore was
doing her salon opening and she was talking to her

(25:20):
husband on last night's episode, okay, and here's what she
had to say about those pictures and maybe things that
she's done in the past, let somebody record her things
like that, and how she felt she.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
Doesn't even realize the damage that she has caused.

Speaker 10 (25:34):
You tried to publicly humiliate me in front of two
hundred people on the night. There were camera crews there,
there were everybody. The audience had their phones out. I
haven't slept since. And everything that I built, everything that
I worked so hard for, it's overshadowed by all of
this online. No woman should have to go through what

(25:55):
I'm going through with this situation, being publicly shamed.

Speaker 14 (26:00):
In front of the world.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
Now, we did a deep dive because I saw on
last week's radio episode that Andy Cohen has they were
talking about revenge porn basically like this is assault, sexual assault,
showing people pictures they didn't ask to see and Kenya
went in. She was like, this is not revenge porn.
These are things that she signed releases for. She didn't
distribute this. What is revenge porn?

Speaker 1 (26:23):
So, according to wiki, which is the know all, y'all,
revenge is the distribution of sexually explicit image, explicit images
or videos of individuals without their consent, with the intention
to create public humiliation or character assassination against the victims.
So Kenya didn't distribute them. They already exist online.

Speaker 4 (26:44):
And she says that there was consent given for these
to exist.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
So it's more like embarrassment. It's more like, you know,
this is a tearing apart this season. It's great, it's great,
great content. Though I'm gonna lie.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
All right, well that is your yet and when we
come back on that sponset Bysockey got to make sure
we do that. Ask ye is next eight hundred and two,
nineteen fifty one fifty. If you have a question and
you need us to do a deep dive, we're here
to help.

Speaker 8 (27:06):
It's way up this relationship for career advice, Angela's dropping facts.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
This is asked.

Speaker 4 (27:12):
What's up?

Speaker 3 (27:13):
Its way up at Angela Ye and it is time
to ask ye. Jasmine Brand is here. Yes, I'm here,
and we have Jiggy on the line.

Speaker 9 (27:20):
What up?

Speaker 1 (27:20):
Jiggy like his name?

Speaker 9 (27:21):
What up? What up?

Speaker 4 (27:22):
How you I'm good, I'm good. It's me and Jasmine.
She likes your name, getting jiggy with it.

Speaker 5 (27:26):
Yeah, tell me, tell me what's good, Judsmine? How you good?

Speaker 1 (27:29):
How you doing?

Speaker 4 (27:30):
What's your question today?

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Everything?

Speaker 5 (27:31):
Well, everything else? So listen, ye, I'm going through it
right now. So just got out of relationship, you know, unfortunately,
you know I was I was. I was out here.

Speaker 4 (27:40):
I was out here doing doing it was outside. You
was for the streets.

Speaker 5 (27:43):
Yeah, I was outside, but you know, I came back
to short issues huge extremely. I was extremely remorseful, you
know what I mean. And she was like, you know what,
let's let's just pass it. So we worked to move
past it. And did she put the reverse on?

Speaker 1 (27:58):
You cheat it back? That's right?

Speaker 5 (28:03):
Literally like put the draw for me.

Speaker 9 (28:05):
Then.

Speaker 5 (28:05):
So we had a conversation and I'm like, you know what,
after we we talked about it, and I was remorse
school and you forgave me. It was just unexpected for
you to do the same thing. But so my question
is right, I'm looking to go back to the street,
going to go back to the streets. But at the
same time, you know, I'm used to being in a relationship.

Speaker 4 (28:23):
That is never a reason to stay with somebody because
you used to.

Speaker 5 (28:28):
I agree, I do, per so, so yeah, my question is,
you know I end up staying because it's I'm used
to us. I just go try something new and just
go back to the streets. But but I'm a reform
street person now.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
You know, reform street walker.

Speaker 5 (28:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm reform free walker.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
Well two things here.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
Yes, don't be in a relationship with somebody if you'll
just gonna cheat on each other, like it just is
a waste of time and it makes no sense. You
hurt her, then she hurts you back. It's like a
never ending cycle on till y'all both grow up. I mean,
it's ridiculous. Secondly, you don't got to be in this.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
It's not a.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
Relationship or in the streets. There's an in between, you
know what I'm saying. The in between is you can
still be a good person, you can still look for
somebody quality you don't have dating in the streets necessarily.

Speaker 4 (29:19):
In the streets is like I'm outside, I'm hoing.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Yeah, don't be holling.

Speaker 4 (29:23):
Yeah, you don't have to do it.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
You probably already ran through. Don't do it like just
But also and this is this is a good time
for him.

Speaker 4 (29:33):
We're not but this is asked not tell us a secret.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
So if you want to be for the streets, just
don't have high expectations. And I think that you just
have to know what you're looking for. If you're just
looking for a good time, not a long time, then
go ahead, do you. But if you want somebody that
you're like, I want to rely on someone like that's
my girl, and then you have to move accordingly.

Speaker 5 (29:57):
I agree. I agree. That's some good advice.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
And you might not be able to keep up out
out in the streets like you thought you could too,
so you expensive, Yeah, you know.

Speaker 5 (30:06):
I don't. I don't like your negativity, you know. First first,
first you know, I was I was already ran through.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
And now.

Speaker 5 (30:16):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
And check back in with us. But you know, get
out of that, uh that toxic relationship.

Speaker 5 (30:25):
Gotcha. We'll appreciate you, all.

Speaker 4 (30:27):
Right, But that was ask ye.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
No one said we don't judge during ask ye. That's
just telling me just made his own rules for us
not to take it to run through. But this is
sponsored by Soccany and those are great running sneakers.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
I like those.

Speaker 4 (30:40):
Yes, you fly to maybe you want to be jogged through.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
And when we come back, we have a special guest
joining us, Doctor Judith Joseph will be here. We're talking
about high functioning depression. This is something that she has researched.
I might have my girl coach Jesse here with me.
These are things that you need to know about that
you may not have even identified. That's why we bring
in the experts. All right, it's way up.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
This is way up with Angela.

Speaker 9 (31:04):
Let's go.

Speaker 8 (31:05):
You are a media maven, right, you never know what
Ange's going to say?

Speaker 4 (31:10):
What's up?

Speaker 3 (31:11):
It's way up with Angela. Yee, and y'all know by
now my girl coach Jesse is here with me.

Speaker 4 (31:16):
The detax now, yes, ma'am. All right, and you brought
a friend with you, which I'm excited about. So April is.

Speaker 15 (31:22):
Stress Awareness month and one of the things as black women,
we're always under so much pressure and that is where
we need to look at. Are we actually dealing with
high functioning depression? So you know, doctor Judith is a researcher,
a psychiatrist, and an author.

Speaker 4 (31:38):
Obviously her book is just releasing yay this week.

Speaker 15 (31:42):
Yay, So congratulations, thank you, And I was so excited
to have her join us to have this conversation because
she's not just someone who researched it, but she lived
it right.

Speaker 14 (31:52):
Love for you to just share with us your story, yeah,
thank you, Jesse Coach Chessie. Because what happens is that
people are comfortable saying I'm burnt out, you know, I'm exhausted,
but if you say I'm depressed, it's like crickets. It
makes people feel awkward. But the reality is that many
of us are actually walking around with high functioning depression,

(32:13):
wearing this mask of pathological productivity, being busy, being the rock,
doing all these things. But we're struggling inside with symptoms
of depression and we're calling it something different. So that's
why the things that we think will help us feel
better don't and we're not getting better. So we have
to name it and identify it so then we use

(32:34):
tools that actually treat it.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
And this was something you identified within yourself too, yes,
and which is not an easy thing for us to
actually say to ourselves. Because as somebody who from childhood,
you've been set a high achiever with so many accomplishments.
But also I've seen you post the pictures of yourself
throughout the years and the things that we see as accomplishments,

(32:58):
but also the underlying issues that you were happening within
yourself that you didn't even know.

Speaker 14 (33:03):
Yeah, I didn't even know. And I'm a board sert
of for psychiatrist and researcher, and it snuck up on me.
Like I remember sitting at a desk teaching this large
hospital system in twenty twenty how to get through uncertainty.
They were like asking questions like yeah, just like what's
going to happen?

Speaker 6 (33:19):
What do I do?

Speaker 14 (33:19):
And halfway through that talk, I was like, wait a second,
I think I'm depressed. It like hit me and I
was like, and I have no joy. And that's something
called anne hedonia. It's a research term that a lot
of people have never heard of. But I'm trying to
change that. So, like you're doing so much, you are
the human doing You're not a human being, right, You're
showing up for others. You're so busy, and if you

(33:42):
sit still, you feel restless. You know, if you're not working,
you feel empty. And when I started talking about this
to people, they're like, that's what it is. They just
didn't have a name for it. So it's important because
this can be an indicator that something is going on
that you need help. But if you go to your
doctor and you're like checking all these symptoms of depression,
but the last checkbox is empty because you are still functioning.

(34:06):
You're actually overfunctioning, they'll say come back when you break down,
because we can't really do anything for you right now.

Speaker 4 (34:12):
I'm trying to change that.

Speaker 15 (34:13):
So they're sending you away like everything's okay, But the
truth is you are depressed.

Speaker 14 (34:18):
Yeah, you have these symptoms, but in order to meet
criteria for depression, you have to check that final box
of you're no longer functioning or you're in distress. Well,
what about people who have to keep going? And what
about people who.

Speaker 4 (34:31):
Don't have the word to describe what they're going through.

Speaker 14 (34:33):
They're not being addressed because we're waiting for you to
break down, which is it sounds like counterintuitive, like why
would you wait for someone to break down? But that's
just the way the system is. But we're seeing that
there's a change with like cancer, like people aren't saying
wait till you get to sage three cancers, and they're saying,
let's prevent the cancer. You know, we're seeing it with
heart disease. Let's not wait for the heart attack. Let's
prevent it right now.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
Cochy Jesse is here with me and we are talking
to psychiatrists, acted Judith Joseph. Her book High Functioning is
all about high functioning depression and how to overcome your
hidden depression and reclaim your joy. We have more about
this really important conversation when we come back.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
It's way up.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Turn me up.

Speaker 4 (35:13):
Here we go up again.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
This is way up with Angela yee.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
What's up as way up with Angela Yee. I'm here.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
Coach to Jesse's here and we are talking to doctor
Judith Joseph. She is definitely giving us some insight into
high functioning depression, something you may not have even known existed.

Speaker 4 (35:29):
Coach Jesse, you got a question.

Speaker 14 (35:30):
How would you define high functioning depression? So you have
these symptoms of depression, you can go onto my website
and you can take the test. There's a high functioning test.
It's free, and you go through the symptoms of depression,
and you see if you have them. And the hallmark
is that a lot of us are overfunctioning. So no
matter what we do, one of the questions on there
is no matter what we do, we never feel like

(35:51):
it's enough. You keep going and.

Speaker 9 (35:55):
How many?

Speaker 3 (35:56):
But that's so normalized actually enough, because it makes you
feel like if you don't feel that way, you're not
doing enough in a way. But then it's also the absence,
like you said, of joy and herdonia, because you always
keep pushing the bar like, Okay, I'll be happy when
this happens.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
I do that all the time.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
Yeah, I'm like I feel better when this happens or
I finally have a chance, But then there's always something
else after that that you're delaying it until you're delaying
your happiness until you reach something, but then there's always
something moving carrot right.

Speaker 14 (36:25):
I'm glad you brought that up because that's exactly what
people say when they come from our office. They're like, doctors,
I just want to be happy. And when I ask them,
like what is happiness, they're like, oh, it's when I
get that job, or when I finally get a house,
when I pay off my debt, it's all always this idea,
but in my research lab it's the opposite. When we
measure happiness, we're adding up points of joy. So the

(36:48):
questions we ask like the questions you'll see on my website,
like when you ate your food, did it taste good?
When you took a nap, did you feel rested?

Speaker 15 (36:56):
Can you find joy in a moment?

Speaker 4 (36:58):
These moments?

Speaker 14 (36:59):
And that's how we measure it in science.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
We add up the points and.

Speaker 14 (37:02):
Then overall that's what makes us measure what or not
there's happiness. But in the real world we're like, well,
I'll be happy one So it's an idea versus joy
as an experience, and we're missing out on joy. Were
leaving our points on the table.

Speaker 4 (37:15):
I want to talk to you. Also in the book,
you discuss how in order for you to become a psychiatrist,
you also had to see one yes right, and that
wasn't easy for you. And I think that's so interesting,
right because I do feel like right now, more than ever,
people have been talking about going to therapy and trying

(37:37):
to make that feel I've seen people say, if he's
not seeing a therapist, I don't want to date you.
Why people are really saying that one. And so what
was a breakthrough moment for you?

Speaker 3 (37:46):
Because I know people who are listening they need to
know that these are steps you had to go through.
But also do you feel this pressure to be perfect
because of who you are and what you do?

Speaker 14 (37:56):
Yeah, Like I didn't think I had mental health issues.
I was like, I'm just going to do it because
everyone else is, but I'm not. I don't have any problems.
And boy was I wrong. Boy, there was so much
trauma that was unpacked, like growing up with very little.
I had no idea that the reason I pushed myself
to you know, get good grades and like constantly working

(38:17):
overfunctioning was because I never wanted to be in a
position of lacking again. So that scarcity trauma was something
that pushed me to be high functioning. And I talk
about that in the book as well.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
People tell me all the time, you can't say still,
just do, Like I made a commitment to myself, like
I have a lot of things that were in the
practice of getting done, and I was like, you know,
as in the second half of this year, I'm going
to just take it easy. I'm not trying to like
put more on my plate. Until I can handle what
I have on my plate now, just because I feel
like I just give myself so much to do that

(38:48):
I'm like, yeah, why do I self love?

Speaker 4 (38:52):
But you know, I might be pushing the bar and then.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
Because I'm like, you know, you never know, like things happen,
But I really have made that commitment because the other
thing that's hard, like you said, is you want to
show up for everybody, and it's hard to say no sometimes,
but you need to.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
Well, Angela.

Speaker 14 (39:07):
One of the symptoms of trauma, unprocessed trauma is internalizing
blame and guilt. Us high functioning folks like if we
don't show up for others, we feel guilty. We're like
or we call ourselves lazy. You know, it's ridiculous we're
doing so much, but we internalize it.

Speaker 4 (39:22):
It's a message we're getting, we're saying to ourselves. It
is it's how we tie our worth to our role.

Speaker 14 (39:28):
But we were someone before our role.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
We just have to work ourselves back.

Speaker 4 (39:31):
Listen, I needed this, Yes, I gotta work. I got
work to do. It is our resistance right right. The
first thing is to be aware of what's going on.
Let's get that together. And I love how we match
the book. Nice. Thank you so much to Doak to
do that, Joseph, Thank you to coach Jesse. You can

(39:52):
watch that Pult interview on my YouTube channel Way Up
with Ye And when we come back, this is your show.
You have the last word and it gets your voice
heard with the word she is the last word on
Way Up with Angela.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
Ye, Happy Monday. It's Way Up with Angela. Ye, I'm here,
Jasmine brand is here.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
I'm here, I'm my own brand.

Speaker 4 (40:11):
It's so good.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
I'm glad you're here. I'm honestly, I had a lot
going on. You know, I talked about this earlier.

Speaker 4 (40:17):
Yeah, my car. Somebody crashed into my car last night
in the middle of the nights.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
Yep, I guess what, Angela.

Speaker 4 (40:23):
I'm handling it.

Speaker 9 (40:24):
You are.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
We will be outside for night too. We are, yep,
we are. Don't look at me like that. We are
uber it up.

Speaker 9 (40:29):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
But yes, we're on the train right now. It is
what it is, though, you know, I'm trying to get
things taken care of. But y'all know how difficult it
is to be in an accident. Imagine an accident that
you It's one of the worst feelings. But it's glad
nobody was hurt. You're doing it's a blessing.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
You're doing great, sweetie.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
All right, thank you, but again this is your show,
you guys, and thank you to doctor Judith Joseph for
joining us today. High Functioning Depression. She has a book
called High Functioning. I'm gonna give you the quiz to
see if you're suffering from any of this. She's a psychiatrist. Okay,
first time this has been study. You can listen to
that full interview on Way Up with Ye. That's my

(41:05):
YouTube channel. And now you guys have the last word.

Speaker 7 (41:08):
I just want to shann A l like today on
Miss Gail King from CBS this morning, girlfriend is going
into space. They are setting the bar way high. So
I have a secret.

Speaker 6 (41:19):
I used to be okay with this girl.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
Right.

Speaker 6 (41:22):
She stole all my collective coins one day I went
out of town, so I had to get it back.
I can't find her, so I'll call.

Speaker 4 (41:30):
Ice, and Ice picked her up and send her as right.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
Back to Jamaica.

Speaker 5 (41:33):
All right, ye going way out with Angela Yee

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