April 17, 2025 • 24 mins
Jana and Allan are recapping The Lucky Six episode of Season 13 of The Masked Singer! Jana has some expert country music insight on who might be behind the mask, but the competition is getting fierce!
And we talk to Papparazzo himself, Matthew Lawrence! He might be the only Masked Singer contestant with a certified zoo in his backyard!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Okay, recap Season thirteen, episode ten, It's the Lucky Six.
I'm so excited to see everyone back together. So first
up to perform was the Mad Scientist Monster so played
sports Loves his Life. Spoiler alert, it's not Keith Urban,
which I don't know who guess Keith Urban. I think
(00:26):
someone did before, but definitely not Keith Urban. Nothing share
the stage with them, right, but shared a stage. The
clue is the Tennessee flag, and he's saying there's nothing
holding me back by Shawn Mendes. So, babe, he drives
one of your favorite cars that you like. They had
(00:49):
a Ford Raptor. He's won many awards, and you, guys,
I just.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Maybe he's Preston Preston Lokes.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
It's not President. I love you, Jenny guess Kenny Chesney.
Robin said Trace Adkins. Rita said Tim McGraw. You guys,
I'm still going Ronnie Dunn. I don't think Scotty mc
I was kind of maybe thinking Scotty McCreary for a
hot second, but you know, the many awards. I know
he's won a few, but I still think Ronnie Dunn.
(01:19):
I don't maybe trace, but I still think it's it's
Ronnie Dunn is my clue.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
And you will be the expert here ann flag country singer.
I'm going to go with your guests.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
But but there's also like so many country singers. But
maybe that's a college. Maybe someone went to college. I
don't know, but I'm still going to go with with
Rodney Dunn on that one second have to perform. But
it was a great performance.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
It was smooth, like a butter smooth.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Someone else, my neighbor texted me because she's a crazy
fan of the mess singer and she's like, yeah, she's
She's like, I think it's Joe Nichols and maybe here
but tbd. Second up to perform is Nessy, very private
guy but loving being back in the spotlight. It's the
spoiler alert is not Pat Monahan. The clue is touring
(02:17):
in twenty twenty five and he's saying Stargazing by Miles Smith,
which I just love that song so much. Apparently he
has a lot of kids, because he says feels like
he's a got one hundred. He loves TikTok and actually
follows Johnny and he's arguably one of the most famous
or he has one of the most famous love songs.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Yeah, so that's kind of.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
This throws me out because I just don't I don't
have a clue, Like to be honest, this episode, Ken's
guesses are outrageous, yeah, he said, sting outrageous, not like
all of these guesses absolutely outrageous. Selena Gomez On the
next one, I mean.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah, I'm kind of think so again, I just go to, like,
what about love songs like Brian Adams is a big
love song guy. Uh, oh god, who is the other
guy that actually did a song with him way back
in the day. I can't remember, Robin said Edwin McCain.
Rita says Dave Matthews. I could, I could see the
(03:17):
Dave Matthews has mentioned the law, but I still don't
really know. Third up to perform was Chral So she
wants to perform more. Uh she she's saying, ain't it
Ain't it fun? By Paramore and rapid Fire. So she's
(03:42):
in the Disney franchise. Doesn't come from a famous family.
Jenny Guest, Rachel Ziegler, Robin Britney snow Ken said Selena
Gomez Brittany I know, I mean, I feel like she's
so well.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
I guess the franchise is in Rita Orra's family. He's
not Little Retou.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I have no idea. She's British something, so I'm not
really sure. But I don't really love any of those guesses.
To be honest with you, WUS shows I can't remember.
I honestly can't remember who I thought. I don't know.
I'm like super thrown off by that one. But she's
got a great voice, she's so good. Maybe Rachel Ziegler.
(04:29):
I could see that fourth of to performance. Paparazzo, who's
one of my faves. He's never sung before. The song
is the biggest clue to his identity. He's sang unpretty
by TLC and uh, he's been on a TV show.
He's been on TMZ And guesses were Jenny said Matthew Lawrence,
(04:49):
Ken said Ben Savage, Rita said Jason Ritter. From all
the clues, I definitely think it's Matthew Lawrence now I
do so oh, but I also have a little spoiler alert.
It's crush.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Oh yeah, I love that twelve year.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Old Janet Yeah, fit up to perform as Pearl uh Love,
showing a different side of her spoiler alert not Shania Twain.
But we knew that song. We sang Conga by Gloria Estefan,
and uh, this one again, I'm just not quite sure,
Jenny says. Faith Hill. Robin said Melissa Ethridge.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
The colossal clue is Elvis.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah, I just I still kind of think it's maybe
Gretchen Wilson, but that could be a terrible clue. But
I thought she did great sixthpths performance Boogie Woogie and
spoiler alert has kids saying unsteadied by the ex Ambassadors, rapidfire,
(05:56):
Jenny so always smiling, famous for his voice, basketball is
his favorite sport, Black Heartbreak. The guesses were Darren Chris,
Chris Martin, Ryan Tetter. I kind of feel like it's
still maybe Andy Grammar, but tbd. The The revealing ended
(06:18):
up being the person that went home is Matthew Lawrence
and he was paparazzo It's going home, and uh, we
actually have him on, so so exciting. So let's get
Matthew Lawrence on. Hey guys, how you doing. I'm good,
(06:48):
thank you. So I totally knew it was you. We'll
just dive right into it, okay. But like I gotta
be honest, I didn't think that you. I mean, I
don't ever remember hearing you sing. Well, you know, did
I miss something back in the nineties because I had
you on my wall. I told my husband. I was like, hey,
so just so work there. I'm just going to like
(07:08):
clear the air. I had JTT and Matthew Lawrence on
my wall. I'm sorry, I just got to like say
it so well.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
You know, I'm sure JT and I both appreciate it
very much, but.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
Yeah, no, you know, it's weird. We started out as
a musical.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Family in you know, in New York and Manhattan, and
that's was like, you know, piano lessons, guitar lessons, singing, dancing,
and then you know, acting took us to LA and
so we didn't really follow through that. My older brother
did quite a bit, he had an album out, but
we never did. Like I don't know, I never did it,
And to be honest, I was always kind of scared
(07:44):
of it.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
It was my big stage right moment, so I had.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
To This was great because it was like I could
get over, but I could wear a mask, so I
no one could see me. That was the real, real
highlight for me.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
But you're so good. Oh thanks, I'm serious, like, so
so so good. I mean obviously from the clues and
stuff that, you know, the acting clues all of that.
So I'm like, okay, it's definitely an actor. But I'm like,
the dude can sing.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Yeah, absolutely absolutely, guys.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I was just looking back at my notes here on
Paparazzo from the previous weeks, and there's like, must be
a singer.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
And he's he's Scottish, so he's a tough critic, you
know what I mean, Like they don't really mostly you
know what I mean. So, I mean, did your girlfriend
give you any tips for being on the stage, because
you know.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
She's yes, absolutely, she's you know, such a pro and yeah,
you know she told me something that Prince told her.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
Oh yeah, just just for Prince.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
But you have to you really have to pace yourself.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
And because you know, going out there and moving and singing,
especially when you're not touring or used to it, you
can you can just die real quick, like you know,
twenty seconds to doing that, you can be out of
breath and not see.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
Really got to pace yourself.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
And she she kind of took me through how to
kind of you know, start and kind of build, and
so yeah, she's she's been, you know, really helpful.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
And the weight of a costume on as well.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Oh my gosh, that was you know, that's something I
think people don't quite understand, you know, especially the costume
I had.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
I had this huge cow.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
I mean it was massive, right, and it was attached
to a rod going down my back and I had
so I had no movement, right, and so you can't
even I depressed the mic up against this like great,
and of course the grade is not one hundred percent
where my mouth.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
Is, so it was.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
That was one of the biggest things to overcome for sure,
was was singing through that cow, because you you know,
when you go to hit certain notes, you know you
need to kind of it was tough stuff.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
That wasn't easy.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
But yeah, and then you can't see I was telling
my husband when I was see when I was doing like, look,
imagine looking through a coffee filter. That is what you
see exactly, like literally nothing.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Wow. Then there's there's choreography and I'm supposed to be
in sync with the dancers and stuff, and I'm like,
I literally I would tell the dancers. I'd be like,
you got to hit like, come up and literally hit
me to let me know where I'm supposed to be
a page because I've got no peripheral vision. I've got
no idea where I even am out there. Basically, I'm
trying to figure it.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
It's crazy, so fun. You know, we just did an
episode on our other podcast, and we were talking about
how it's really hard to have a friend group of
three and so you're you're, you know, you and your brothers.
There's three. Is there one that's left out the most?
Because I just don't three. I don't think threes work,
you know, in friend groups. So I'm thinking, I'm like,
all right, a family, Like who's left out of the
(10:46):
brothers the most?
Speaker 5 (10:49):
You know, I'm I'm gonna have to agree to disagree
with you on this thing.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
But the brothers thing works of three.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
The three of us is it's actually it's crucial that
there are three.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Because we always go with this one rule where we say,
you know, it's it's two out of three when we
make decisions. So if somebody can't like make a decision
on something, if two think this is the way to go,
that's the way we're going to go, and it really helps,
you know, make a lot of decisions for us. So
it's been great. I know we don't really have that.
You know, there are periods where you know, Joe and
(11:22):
I will talk a little more, anding Joe will talk
a little more. You know, there are periods where we
go through that, but it's never been one's always sort
of left out y.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yeah, well that's good.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Maybe it's I was watching some of your videos. I
think they must be tech talk videos. They oh yeah, new.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
World man, a new world out there. We're dancing on
the TikTok videos and it's it's great.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
No, But I think people love to see especially my
generation too, and then that those that are you know,
just finding because I feel like, you know, especially in
that world TikTok and everybody you know, you guys you
separately is obvious, like you're amazing, but you three together,
it's so special and there's such a obviously the bond
with the you know, your brothers. But I don't know,
(12:08):
I think I love seeing you ask any of your podcast,
so what you know for people that are listening to
go switch to your pod after this one? What what
do you guys like to what do you guys talk
about the most on yours?
Speaker 4 (12:21):
And yeah, you know, our podcast is just it really
is just dinner table talk.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
It's like, you know, a peek into a conversation between.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Three brothers who you know, we all love each other,
but we all come from different points of view and
you know, we always hash it out. It's always based
in comedy. You know, we're trying to make you have
a good time with us. That's that's what we try
to do with each other. We use laughter to heal
that we always have sometimes in uncomfortable situations. It's not
the best, but you know, I've actually had to explain
(12:52):
myself before where there are these sad moments and I'll
throw in a joke and you know, sometimes it doesn't
go over too well, and I'm just like, well, I
try to heal with with laughter. And I think Joe
and Andy, my brothers, both feel the same way. So
you know, it's just it's just a fun time. We
will pick topics from time to time and yeah, you
just you're basically it's like you go to dinner with
(13:13):
us and we have a good conversation.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
That's that's just pretty much.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
It, Yeah, and I think I mean you probably just
said it. But for you when you are going through
hard times, obviously you guys and you personally, you know,
have been in the press. We both get it. We've
we were divorced previously. So what where do you find
that kind of comfort in and and then kind of
(13:36):
letting go of the noise.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Well, I think it's just that, you know, for a
long period of time, I went through wanting to be
or having a desire to be you know, liked and
appreciated by people. And I think you know that is
that can lead you into the wrong direction. I think
you've got to be true to yourself and you know,
listen when things are said about you, whether they're true
(14:01):
or false. I feel like unless something is, unless somebody
is just continues to go out there and try to,
you know, degrade you.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
I really just think you got to stay out of it.
I think the more that you.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Jump in on that, especially if it's untrue, I think
the more weight you give to it, I think you
just got to move on and you just got you know,
realize that that's the kind of again, that's.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
The world we live in.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
And and also these things the one blessing about how
fast the world moves these days?
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Is that?
Speaker 4 (14:28):
And there's another story the next morning, and like oh
the next the next.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
Yeah that's somebody else. Is good? Be talking about somebody
else tomorrow, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
So yeah, no, I think it's true. And it's hard
because I think people heal in all different ways. Like
for me, like I was the person that I just
couldn't shut up about it. I still, you know, talk
about it, but you know, we all heal in different ways,
and you know, trying to try to navigate.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
So yeah, I just think I do believe, you know,
if you do look at my social presence out there,
I I do give a tad of my personal life,
but I don't live my personal life on social media.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
I don't expose my you know, my relationship.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
I don't overexpose my home life, and I think that's
also important.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
I just don't want to live my life out there.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
So when it comes to, you know, the good and
the bad times, I think you've got to take wins
and your failures in private. And I think my job
out there on social media is to entertain, is to
make people laugh, maybe you know, crack a smile. That's
my goal outside of that, all my personal feelings about
things their mind.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
I'm not going to interject them.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Well, and it's too easy for people to pick it apart.
Like that's always been my biggest of course regret is
sharing so much because then I'm like, well, I just
allowed them to pick it apart and allowed them to
then question my judgment on things or you know so,
but you know, you live and you'll learn.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Well you try, Yeah, you try.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
So, You've been in some You've been in some really
big movies and TV shows. What have you got coming
not acting wise? Do you have anything on the horizon?
Speaker 5 (16:03):
Yeah, there there is.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
There's a there's a project coming up that'll be shooting
this summer which I'm really excited about. There's a couple
of projects that I'm working with my brothers on as well.
There's I'm behind the camera. I'll be uh, you know,
exact boosing the movie, and uh, we've got a TV
show that we're making right now, and uh, we've got
the YouTube content and.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
It No, it's lots going on.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Yeah, and I'll you can't leave out the fact that
it's springtime and I'm redoing my my backyard reptile zoo
and that's a lot of work as well.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah, I got it is your girlfriend and on that,
because I don't know like how I would be if
you were like, hey, let's have a reptile zoo.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
What what what size of reptiles are we talking?
Speaker 2 (16:46):
He's like a big komodo dragon? Dude, Oh you are.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
So I've got a water monitor, a melanistic water monitor.
He's just a juv right now, about three feet. But
you know, they're they're very closely related to the komodo dragons.
They're all part of the monitor species. So I'm I've
got my foot in there as well. But I got
lots man. It's it's a it's a it's a legitimate zoo.
I mean, I don't do it just to have pets either.
I work with endangered species and.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Only people get tickets to go to the zoo.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Well so no, it's it's like, hey, let's go to
Matthew World's back yard. But it's it's cool, like you know,
I mean eventually, yes, Like my mom is a teacher
and she works at a school, and we're gonna start that.
We're gonna have a summer program where the kids come
over and you know, we do that, and I'm gonna
start to open that up more and more because it
really is for educational purposes, and I you know, I'm
(17:37):
putting a lot of time and effort now also into
the the visual experience of it, because I think that's
something that people don't understand about, you know, the reptiles
and amphibians. It's not just the animals themselves, it's it's
recreating the environments.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
So there's an escapism to it.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
You know. I've got a little piece of the Amazon.
I've got a little piece of the Caribbean, you know,
I've got a little bit of the Southwest deserts, and
I've got all these little environments that when you step
into you actually kind of feel like you're there. You know,
everything you really fine tune everything from the temperature of
the humidity to the smells and the type of plants
like the Kreasiat bush from our Southwest deserts out here,
(18:12):
they produce this incredible fragrance, you know, so you're really
it's really immersive, and that's the whole point of it,
and it's just to show people that, you know, the
the environment in the food chain is very finely tuned
and these little creatures that sometimes we just step over
are are very important rungs on that food chain, and
they're also incredibly telling to the health of the food chain.
(18:33):
And so it's it's very important that we pay attention
to these type of athases.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
I'm obsessed with your passion for reptiles. I really because
I would not have even thought of one, like one
piece that I'm just like, like, I don't even at zoos,
I don't go in the reptiles. I let like my kids,
it's like their favorite. And then you know, I'm like,
all right now and this is your.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Yeah, my first question is have you got Komodo dragons?
Speaker 1 (18:54):
If you don't have Komodo dragons, then I'm not paying
to gain your zoo.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
Here's the thing. Here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Komodo dragons are highly illegal and dangerous.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
I'm talking about it.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
If we go to a zu, like, my first question
is do you have a Kimodo dragon?
Speaker 3 (19:09):
That's not I'm not interested.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
Oh yeah, I'll tell you that. Yeah, they're they're they're amazing.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
I actually got you know, I've I've been all over
the world and you know, in search of reptiles, and
I had the most amazing experience of being in Indonesia
and actually seeing them in the wild, and wow, man,
they are they're they're just they're living dragons, man, I
mean they're They're one of the coolest apex reptiles you
got on the planet. I mean them, the Burmese, the uh,
(19:38):
the anaconda, these are the is the top top of
the food chain. I mean, when you see how fast
a twelve to fourteen foot, you know, three hundred pound
lizard can move, it's shocking.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
It's really cool, impressive.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
I've seen seen a lot of those on Lane where
they catch goats and eat them hole within.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I mean, that should have been your wild that you're
your stage costume should have been like a big old
reptile on Massinger Eyes.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
I went in pitching that, but.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
I saw the eyes and it kind of had.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
Me at the eyes, so right, I went with it.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Is there a quote that you remember from being with
Robin on Missed Out Fire that you kind of or
or like a memory that you take with you from
that experience?
Speaker 5 (20:40):
Oh so many.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
It's hard to pick because I can't even imagine working
with him, and then you know, I'm just the.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
Yeah, no, it's It's definitely one of the highlights of
my life.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
I mean, you know, and every moment on that set,
you know, with Robin was uh, you know, I didn't
know it at the time, but was impactful. And the
fact that this man also had such compassion that you know,
I'm thinking about it now. I was twelve years old
and he accepted me in a way that most adults don't.
(21:14):
Didn't accept me whether I was in a working environment
or anything else. I mean, he really took me under
his wing. You know, he allowed me in I think
one of the most impactful things that he allowed me
inside his world to see what it was like to
live with that yin and yang of incredibly high and
(21:35):
incredibly low. And I think he did that because he
wanted me to truly understand that you got to protect
your brain and your health. And he really steered me
away from drugs and alcohol. He really feeled like he
felt like that was one of the main contributors to
why his brain was so unstable. And you know, I'll
(21:57):
tell you it scared the crap out of me. He
really put the fear of God in me when it
comes that kind of stuff and I'll tell you when
I was around it, you know, I didn't do it
because of him, and who knows.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
Where I would have gone, you know.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
And so just that alone, let alone the the.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
Comedic timing and the just he's just he to me
is just one of the absolute.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Unique, one of a kind artists that there will ever
be in that field, just epic.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Well, thank you for sharing that. Yeah, I mean, what
we could if only we could go back older generations
and meet the people, you know, I always think about
that too. It's like, oh right, you know, when my
grandpap passed, it was like I should have spent more
time with him, or you know, just things like that.
There's so many things that when you're younger you wish
that you would have done instead of you know.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
He also does an amazing Scottish accent. Have you held these?
Speaker 5 (22:49):
I have?
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Yeah? I think he sent me that one time.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
I mean, but have you heard that?
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Yeah, he's he's got it down.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
So good. Well, Matthy, you're obviously incredibly busy. Go tend
to these Kmodo or your your reptiles and all of it,
and everyone listen, you did incredible on the Messinger, and
we're sad to see you unmasked because you were fantastic.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
So I wasn't you were ready, you were ready to go.
I was ready.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Okay, Well you're the best. And I got to say, so,
I met you years like years ago, and there's a
different lightness to you that I see now because I
always thought you, I mean, you might just you might
be an introvert. But I just there's there's a different
lightness to you that I feel and see in you now.
And yeah, I just wanted you to know that.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
So, yeah, you know, I've just been reinspired for life,
and yeah, you know, I have my faith and everything's
going in the right direction. I love it.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
I love it. All right, have a great day. Matthew.
All right, absolutely bye. I mean my high schoo sweetheart's
name is Matthew. So I like, I just have like
a little warm spot. I do have thing for a
things thing for Matthew. But no, I actually did. I
met Matthew with Cheryl when he was still married to
Cheryl at Dancing with the Stars, and I just Cheryl
(24:11):
Burke was his ex wife, and she's very vocal about
her healing, you know, journey and all that stuff. And
we actually danced to TLC together when we were at
the iHeart Awards for some iHeartRadio Award thing, and I
think it was cathartic for her in that moment too,
because I'm like, you know what, let's go out there.
(24:31):
I don't use them a lot big words, but that cathartic.
Thanks beb. Anyways, Matthew Lawrence, go listen to all his things.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
And zoo
Speaker 2 (24:42):
And go to the zoo.
Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Okay, recap Season thirteen, episode ten, It's the Lucky Six.
I'm so excited to see everyone back together. So first
up to perform was the Mad Scientist Monster so played
sports Loves his Life. Spoiler alert, it's not Keith Urban,
which I don't know who guess Keith Urban. I think
(00:26):
someone did before, but definitely not Keith Urban. Nothing share
the stage with them, right, but shared a stage. The
clue is the Tennessee flag, and he's saying there's nothing
holding me back by Shawn Mendes. So, babe, he drives
one of your favorite cars that you like. They had
(00:49):
a Ford Raptor. He's won many awards, and you, guys,
I just.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Maybe he's Preston Preston Lokes.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
It's not President. I love you, Jenny guess Kenny Chesney.
Robin said Trace Adkins. Rita said Tim McGraw. You guys,
I'm still going Ronnie Dunn. I don't think Scotty mc
I was kind of maybe thinking Scotty McCreary for a
hot second, but you know, the many awards. I know
he's won a few, but I still think Ronnie Dunn.
(01:19):
I don't maybe trace, but I still think it's it's
Ronnie Dunn is my clue.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
And you will be the expert here ann flag country singer.
I'm going to go with your guests.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
But but there's also like so many country singers. But
maybe that's a college. Maybe someone went to college. I
don't know, but I'm still going to go with with
Rodney Dunn on that one second have to perform. But
it was a great performance.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
It was smooth, like a butter smooth.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Someone else, my neighbor texted me because she's a crazy
fan of the mess singer and she's like, yeah, she's
She's like, I think it's Joe Nichols and maybe here
but tbd. Second up to perform is Nessy, very private
guy but loving being back in the spotlight. It's the
spoiler alert is not Pat Monahan. The clue is touring
(02:17):
in twenty twenty five and he's saying Stargazing by Miles Smith,
which I just love that song so much. Apparently he
has a lot of kids, because he says feels like
he's a got one hundred. He loves TikTok and actually
follows Johnny and he's arguably one of the most famous
or he has one of the most famous love songs.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Yeah, so that's kind of.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
This throws me out because I just don't I don't
have a clue, Like to be honest, this episode, Ken's
guesses are outrageous, yeah, he said, sting outrageous, not like
all of these guesses absolutely outrageous. Selena Gomez On the
next one, I mean.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah, I'm kind of think so again, I just go to, like,
what about love songs like Brian Adams is a big
love song guy. Uh, oh god, who is the other
guy that actually did a song with him way back
in the day. I can't remember, Robin said Edwin McCain.
Rita says Dave Matthews. I could, I could see the
(03:17):
Dave Matthews has mentioned the law, but I still don't
really know. Third up to perform was Chral So she
wants to perform more. Uh she she's saying, ain't it
Ain't it fun? By Paramore and rapid Fire. So she's
(03:42):
in the Disney franchise. Doesn't come from a famous family.
Jenny Guest, Rachel Ziegler, Robin Britney snow Ken said Selena
Gomez Brittany I know, I mean, I feel like she's
so well.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
I guess the franchise is in Rita Orra's family. He's
not Little Retou.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I have no idea. She's British something, so I'm not
really sure. But I don't really love any of those guesses.
To be honest with you, WUS shows I can't remember.
I honestly can't remember who I thought. I don't know.
I'm like super thrown off by that one. But she's
got a great voice, she's so good. Maybe Rachel Ziegler.
(04:29):
I could see that fourth of to performance. Paparazzo, who's
one of my faves. He's never sung before. The song
is the biggest clue to his identity. He's sang unpretty
by TLC and uh, he's been on a TV show.
He's been on TMZ And guesses were Jenny said Matthew Lawrence,
(04:49):
Ken said Ben Savage, Rita said Jason Ritter. From all
the clues, I definitely think it's Matthew Lawrence now I
do so oh, but I also have a little spoiler alert.
It's crush.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Oh yeah, I love that twelve year.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Old Janet Yeah, fit up to perform as Pearl uh Love,
showing a different side of her spoiler alert not Shania Twain.
But we knew that song. We sang Conga by Gloria Estefan,
and uh, this one again, I'm just not quite sure,
Jenny says. Faith Hill. Robin said Melissa Ethridge.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
The colossal clue is Elvis.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah, I just I still kind of think it's maybe
Gretchen Wilson, but that could be a terrible clue. But
I thought she did great sixthpths performance Boogie Woogie and
spoiler alert has kids saying unsteadied by the ex Ambassadors, rapidfire,
(05:56):
Jenny so always smiling, famous for his voice, basketball is
his favorite sport, Black Heartbreak. The guesses were Darren Chris,
Chris Martin, Ryan Tetter. I kind of feel like it's
still maybe Andy Grammar, but tbd. The The revealing ended
(06:18):
up being the person that went home is Matthew Lawrence
and he was paparazzo It's going home, and uh, we
actually have him on, so so exciting. So let's get
Matthew Lawrence on. Hey guys, how you doing. I'm good,
(06:48):
thank you. So I totally knew it was you. We'll
just dive right into it, okay. But like I gotta
be honest, I didn't think that you. I mean, I
don't ever remember hearing you sing. Well, you know, did
I miss something back in the nineties because I had
you on my wall. I told my husband. I was like, hey,
so just so work there. I'm just going to like
(07:08):
clear the air. I had JTT and Matthew Lawrence on
my wall. I'm sorry, I just got to like say
it so well.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
You know, I'm sure JT and I both appreciate it
very much, but.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
Yeah, no, you know, it's weird. We started out as
a musical.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Family in you know, in New York and Manhattan, and
that's was like, you know, piano lessons, guitar lessons, singing, dancing,
and then you know, acting took us to LA and
so we didn't really follow through that. My older brother
did quite a bit, he had an album out, but
we never did. Like I don't know, I never did it,
And to be honest, I was always kind of scared
(07:44):
of it.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
It was my big stage right moment, so I had.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
To This was great because it was like I could
get over, but I could wear a mask, so I
no one could see me. That was the real, real
highlight for me.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
But you're so good. Oh thanks, I'm serious, like, so
so so good. I mean obviously from the clues and
stuff that, you know, the acting clues all of that.
So I'm like, okay, it's definitely an actor. But I'm like,
the dude can sing.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Yeah, absolutely absolutely, guys.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I was just looking back at my notes here on
Paparazzo from the previous weeks, and there's like, must be
a singer.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
And he's he's Scottish, so he's a tough critic, you
know what I mean, Like they don't really mostly you
know what I mean. So, I mean, did your girlfriend
give you any tips for being on the stage, because
you know.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
She's yes, absolutely, she's you know, such a pro and yeah,
you know she told me something that Prince told her.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
Oh yeah, just just for Prince.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
But you have to you really have to pace yourself.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
And because you know, going out there and moving and singing,
especially when you're not touring or used to it, you
can you can just die real quick, like you know,
twenty seconds to doing that, you can be out of
breath and not see.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
Really got to pace yourself.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
And she she kind of took me through how to
kind of you know, start and kind of build, and
so yeah, she's she's been, you know, really helpful.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
And the weight of a costume on as well.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Oh my gosh, that was you know, that's something I
think people don't quite understand, you know, especially the costume
I had.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
I had this huge cow.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
I mean it was massive, right, and it was attached
to a rod going down my back and I had
so I had no movement, right, and so you can't
even I depressed the mic up against this like great,
and of course the grade is not one hundred percent
where my mouth.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
Is, so it was.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
That was one of the biggest things to overcome for sure,
was was singing through that cow, because you you know,
when you go to hit certain notes, you know you
need to kind of it was tough stuff.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
That wasn't easy.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
But yeah, and then you can't see I was telling
my husband when I was see when I was doing like, look,
imagine looking through a coffee filter. That is what you
see exactly, like literally nothing.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Wow. Then there's there's choreography and I'm supposed to be
in sync with the dancers and stuff, and I'm like,
I literally I would tell the dancers. I'd be like,
you got to hit like, come up and literally hit
me to let me know where I'm supposed to be
a page because I've got no peripheral vision. I've got
no idea where I even am out there. Basically, I'm
trying to figure it.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
It's crazy, so fun. You know, we just did an
episode on our other podcast, and we were talking about
how it's really hard to have a friend group of
three and so you're you're, you know, you and your brothers.
There's three. Is there one that's left out the most?
Because I just don't three. I don't think threes work,
you know, in friend groups. So I'm thinking, I'm like,
all right, a family, Like who's left out of the
(10:46):
brothers the most?
Speaker 5 (10:49):
You know, I'm I'm gonna have to agree to disagree
with you on this thing.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
But the brothers thing works of three.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
The three of us is it's actually it's crucial that
there are three.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Because we always go with this one rule where we say,
you know, it's it's two out of three when we
make decisions. So if somebody can't like make a decision
on something, if two think this is the way to go,
that's the way we're going to go, and it really helps,
you know, make a lot of decisions for us. So
it's been great. I know we don't really have that.
You know, there are periods where you know, Joe and
(11:22):
I will talk a little more, anding Joe will talk
a little more. You know, there are periods where we
go through that, but it's never been one's always sort
of left out y.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yeah, well that's good.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Maybe it's I was watching some of your videos. I
think they must be tech talk videos. They oh yeah, new.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
World man, a new world out there. We're dancing on
the TikTok videos and it's it's great.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
No, But I think people love to see especially my
generation too, and then that those that are you know,
just finding because I feel like, you know, especially in
that world TikTok and everybody you know, you guys you
separately is obvious, like you're amazing, but you three together,
it's so special and there's such a obviously the bond
with the you know, your brothers. But I don't know,
(12:08):
I think I love seeing you ask any of your podcast,
so what you know for people that are listening to
go switch to your pod after this one? What what
do you guys like to what do you guys talk
about the most on yours?
Speaker 4 (12:21):
And yeah, you know, our podcast is just it really
is just dinner table talk.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
It's like, you know, a peek into a conversation between.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Three brothers who you know, we all love each other,
but we all come from different points of view and
you know, we always hash it out. It's always based
in comedy. You know, we're trying to make you have
a good time with us. That's that's what we try
to do with each other. We use laughter to heal
that we always have sometimes in uncomfortable situations. It's not
the best, but you know, I've actually had to explain
(12:52):
myself before where there are these sad moments and I'll
throw in a joke and you know, sometimes it doesn't
go over too well, and I'm just like, well, I
try to heal with with laughter. And I think Joe
and Andy, my brothers, both feel the same way. So
you know, it's just it's just a fun time. We
will pick topics from time to time and yeah, you
just you're basically it's like you go to dinner with
(13:13):
us and we have a good conversation.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
That's that's just pretty much.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
It, Yeah, and I think I mean you probably just
said it. But for you when you are going through
hard times, obviously you guys and you personally, you know,
have been in the press. We both get it. We've
we were divorced previously. So what where do you find
that kind of comfort in and and then kind of
(13:36):
letting go of the noise.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Well, I think it's just that, you know, for a
long period of time, I went through wanting to be
or having a desire to be you know, liked and
appreciated by people. And I think you know that is
that can lead you into the wrong direction. I think
you've got to be true to yourself and you know,
listen when things are said about you, whether they're true
(14:01):
or false. I feel like unless something is, unless somebody
is just continues to go out there and try to,
you know, degrade you.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
I really just think you got to stay out of it.
I think the more that you.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Jump in on that, especially if it's untrue, I think
the more weight you give to it, I think you
just got to move on and you just got you know,
realize that that's the kind of again, that's.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
The world we live in.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
And and also these things the one blessing about how
fast the world moves these days?
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Is that?
Speaker 4 (14:28):
And there's another story the next morning, and like oh
the next the next.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
Yeah that's somebody else. Is good? Be talking about somebody
else tomorrow, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
So yeah, no, I think it's true. And it's hard
because I think people heal in all different ways. Like
for me, like I was the person that I just
couldn't shut up about it. I still, you know, talk
about it, but you know, we all heal in different ways,
and you know, trying to try to navigate.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
So yeah, I just think I do believe, you know,
if you do look at my social presence out there,
I I do give a tad of my personal life,
but I don't live my personal life on social media.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
I don't expose my you know, my relationship.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
I don't overexpose my home life, and I think that's
also important.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
I just don't want to live my life out there.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
So when it comes to, you know, the good and
the bad times, I think you've got to take wins
and your failures in private. And I think my job
out there on social media is to entertain, is to
make people laugh, maybe you know, crack a smile. That's
my goal outside of that, all my personal feelings about
things their mind.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
I'm not going to interject them.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Well, and it's too easy for people to pick it apart.
Like that's always been my biggest of course regret is
sharing so much because then I'm like, well, I just
allowed them to pick it apart and allowed them to
then question my judgment on things or you know so,
but you know, you live and you'll learn.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Well you try, Yeah, you try.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
So, You've been in some You've been in some really
big movies and TV shows. What have you got coming
not acting wise? Do you have anything on the horizon?
Speaker 5 (16:03):
Yeah, there there is.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
There's a there's a project coming up that'll be shooting
this summer which I'm really excited about. There's a couple
of projects that I'm working with my brothers on as well.
There's I'm behind the camera. I'll be uh, you know,
exact boosing the movie, and uh, we've got a TV
show that we're making right now, and uh, we've got
the YouTube content and.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
It No, it's lots going on.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Yeah, and I'll you can't leave out the fact that
it's springtime and I'm redoing my my backyard reptile zoo
and that's a lot of work as well.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah, I got it is your girlfriend and on that,
because I don't know like how I would be if
you were like, hey, let's have a reptile zoo.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
What what what size of reptiles are we talking?
Speaker 2 (16:46):
He's like a big komodo dragon? Dude, Oh you are.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
So I've got a water monitor, a melanistic water monitor.
He's just a juv right now, about three feet. But
you know, they're they're very closely related to the komodo dragons.
They're all part of the monitor species. So I'm I've
got my foot in there as well. But I got
lots man. It's it's a it's a it's a legitimate zoo.
I mean, I don't do it just to have pets either.
I work with endangered species and.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Only people get tickets to go to the zoo.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Well so no, it's it's like, hey, let's go to
Matthew World's back yard. But it's it's cool, like you know,
I mean eventually, yes, Like my mom is a teacher
and she works at a school, and we're gonna start that.
We're gonna have a summer program where the kids come
over and you know, we do that, and I'm gonna
start to open that up more and more because it
really is for educational purposes, and I you know, I'm
(17:37):
putting a lot of time and effort now also into
the the visual experience of it, because I think that's
something that people don't understand about, you know, the reptiles
and amphibians. It's not just the animals themselves, it's it's
recreating the environments.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
So there's an escapism to it.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
You know. I've got a little piece of the Amazon.
I've got a little piece of the Caribbean, you know,
I've got a little bit of the Southwest deserts, and
I've got all these little environments that when you step
into you actually kind of feel like you're there. You know,
everything you really fine tune everything from the temperature of
the humidity to the smells and the type of plants
like the Kreasiat bush from our Southwest deserts out here,
(18:12):
they produce this incredible fragrance, you know, so you're really
it's really immersive, and that's the whole point of it,
and it's just to show people that, you know, the
the environment in the food chain is very finely tuned
and these little creatures that sometimes we just step over
are are very important rungs on that food chain, and
they're also incredibly telling to the health of the food chain.
(18:33):
And so it's it's very important that we pay attention
to these type of athases.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
I'm obsessed with your passion for reptiles. I really because
I would not have even thought of one, like one
piece that I'm just like, like, I don't even at zoos,
I don't go in the reptiles. I let like my kids,
it's like their favorite. And then you know, I'm like,
all right now and this is your.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Yeah, my first question is have you got Komodo dragons?
Speaker 1 (18:54):
If you don't have Komodo dragons, then I'm not paying
to gain your zoo.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
Here's the thing. Here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Komodo dragons are highly illegal and dangerous.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
I'm talking about it.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
If we go to a zu, like, my first question
is do you have a Kimodo dragon?
Speaker 3 (19:09):
That's not I'm not interested.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
Oh yeah, I'll tell you that. Yeah, they're they're they're amazing.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
I actually got you know, I've I've been all over
the world and you know, in search of reptiles, and
I had the most amazing experience of being in Indonesia
and actually seeing them in the wild, and wow, man,
they are they're they're just they're living dragons, man, I
mean they're They're one of the coolest apex reptiles you
got on the planet. I mean them, the Burmese, the uh,
(19:38):
the anaconda, these are the is the top top of
the food chain. I mean, when you see how fast
a twelve to fourteen foot, you know, three hundred pound
lizard can move, it's shocking.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
It's really cool, impressive.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
I've seen seen a lot of those on Lane where
they catch goats and eat them hole within.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I mean, that should have been your wild that you're
your stage costume should have been like a big old
reptile on Massinger Eyes.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
I went in pitching that, but.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
I saw the eyes and it kind of had.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
Me at the eyes, so right, I went with it.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Is there a quote that you remember from being with
Robin on Missed Out Fire that you kind of or
or like a memory that you take with you from
that experience?
Speaker 5 (20:40):
Oh so many.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
It's hard to pick because I can't even imagine working
with him, and then you know, I'm just the.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
Yeah, no, it's It's definitely one of the highlights of
my life.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
I mean, you know, and every moment on that set,
you know, with Robin was uh, you know, I didn't
know it at the time, but was impactful. And the
fact that this man also had such compassion that you know,
I'm thinking about it now. I was twelve years old
and he accepted me in a way that most adults don't.
(21:14):
Didn't accept me whether I was in a working environment
or anything else. I mean, he really took me under
his wing. You know, he allowed me in I think
one of the most impactful things that he allowed me
inside his world to see what it was like to
live with that yin and yang of incredibly high and
(21:35):
incredibly low. And I think he did that because he
wanted me to truly understand that you got to protect
your brain and your health. And he really steered me
away from drugs and alcohol. He really feeled like he
felt like that was one of the main contributors to
why his brain was so unstable. And you know, I'll
(21:57):
tell you it scared the crap out of me. He
really put the fear of God in me when it
comes that kind of stuff and I'll tell you when
I was around it, you know, I didn't do it
because of him, and who knows.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
Where I would have gone, you know.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
And so just that alone, let alone the the.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
Comedic timing and the just he's just he to me
is just one of the absolute.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Unique, one of a kind artists that there will ever
be in that field, just epic.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Well, thank you for sharing that. Yeah, I mean, what
we could if only we could go back older generations
and meet the people, you know, I always think about
that too. It's like, oh right, you know, when my
grandpap passed, it was like I should have spent more
time with him, or you know, just things like that.
There's so many things that when you're younger you wish
that you would have done instead of you know.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
He also does an amazing Scottish accent. Have you held these?
Speaker 5 (22:49):
I have?
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Yeah? I think he sent me that one time.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
I mean, but have you heard that?
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Yeah, he's he's got it down.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
So good. Well, Matthy, you're obviously incredibly busy. Go tend
to these Kmodo or your your reptiles and all of it,
and everyone listen, you did incredible on the Messinger, and
we're sad to see you unmasked because you were fantastic.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
So I wasn't you were ready, you were ready to go.
I was ready.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Okay, Well you're the best. And I got to say, so,
I met you years like years ago, and there's a
different lightness to you that I see now because I
always thought you, I mean, you might just you might
be an introvert. But I just there's there's a different
lightness to you that I feel and see in you now.
And yeah, I just wanted you to know that.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
So, yeah, you know, I've just been reinspired for life,
and yeah, you know, I have my faith and everything's
going in the right direction. I love it.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
I love it. All right, have a great day. Matthew.
All right, absolutely bye. I mean my high schoo sweetheart's
name is Matthew. So I like, I just have like
a little warm spot. I do have thing for a
things thing for Matthew. But no, I actually did. I
met Matthew with Cheryl when he was still married to
Cheryl at Dancing with the Stars, and I just Cheryl
(24:11):
Burke was his ex wife, and she's very vocal about
her healing, you know, journey and all that stuff. And
we actually danced to TLC together when we were at
the iHeart Awards for some iHeartRadio Award thing, and I
think it was cathartic for her in that moment too,
because I'm like, you know what, let's go out there.
(24:31):
I don't use them a lot big words, but that cathartic.
Thanks beb. Anyways, Matthew Lawrence, go listen to all his things.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
And zoo
Speaker 2 (24:42):
And go to the zoo.
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