April 11, 2025 • 25 mins
“This is Us” star Chrissy Metz is taking off the mask of The Poodle Moth and sharing her story of life, faith, and how playing a character helped her heal some very real trauma.
Chrissy shares her experience performing on The Masked Singer with a motivational story of living her musical dreams on the stage.
Plus, Jana and Allan recap Decades Night on season 13 of The Masked Singer!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Swine Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Podcast Decades Night on the Mass Singer last night. It
was so fun. Babe, what's your favorite decade?
Speaker 3 (00:13):
I love like old American movies, so I like like
the sixties. Oh yeah, but I think for music, my
favorite decade is the eighties.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
It's a good decade.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
It's a good decade. It's a powerful decade. A lot
of ballads and.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Two awesome people were born in the eighties. I gotta
go nineties. Really, you love nineties, love the music, love
the era, love the non technology.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
I love the non technology. Eighties is even better than
the n eighties.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
That's true, That's very true.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
So first up to form was Yorkie, raised by a
single mom, keys on a leash, grew up fast and
people say she's cold Judges Gavel, so I think a
little legal trouble. She's had marital problems. She's saying stop
in the Name of Love by the Supremes, which is
such a fun song. And Jenny guest Erica Jane Robin
(01:12):
Laurie Laughlin Ken said cald Richards and I again one
thousand percent was like this is Erica Jane A because
of the Teddy Mellencamp story that she did. But also,
you know, I remember meeting her. She was actually she
used to dance or she danced with my old Dancing
with the Stars partner, and I could you know, she
(01:33):
she does have she comes off, like she said, people
say she's coold. She's actually really sweet when you get
into a conversation with her. But I could see why
people would think that, Well.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
She's soundly good and she's played the part where ill
of tugging on people's heartstrings with like the the quote
of her mom, you know, ultimate protector.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah, I mean it was a I think Yorki is
just really fun like she she did a great job.
So that was a great start to you know, the
Group C finalists. And then next up was the mad
Scientist Monster, so some of the clues were a cowboy
hat obviously.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Actually he went solo.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Which wasn't received though wasn't received.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Well, which is why I still think that it's Ronnie
Dune from Brooks and Dunn, because Ronnie went solo.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
From Brooks and Done.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
So I'm off of Scotty McCreary because I don't remember
Scotty McCreary being in a band, but he's sang love
Yourself by Justin Bieber love the Uh how he I
love a country person singing that song such a good song.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
It was such a good song, but he sang it
so well.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
He's amazing. Yeah, it has to be Ronnie Dunn. I'm
just going to be shocked. But Jenny said Blake Shelton,
which I don't think. Ken said Brad Paisley, which I
toured with Brad. I don't think it sounds anything like
him personally. And then Rita said Billy ray Cyris. So
he did say he performed with someone from season four,
So I might have to go back into the roll
of decks of seasons. Ronnie, I mean, I would just
(03:09):
be so.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Country music hell of a lot better than I do.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
So obviously, I just really does sound like I don't know,
I'm really excited to see who that person is.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Their'd up to perform? Was Nessy your thoughts?
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Yeah, I just love the character so in the song.
So what this song is in my top ten favorite songs.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
In Fight the Ceiling by Ario Speedwagon.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Ario Speedwagon. There, I think it's eighties.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
What decade that's done.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
I'm pretty sure it's eighties really possibly creaked into the nineties.
But anyway, in my top ten of songs, so in
the fact that he's the Lockness Monster and as a
Scottish do you know we actually put on a Scottish
accent on the show?
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Really yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
In the battle oh yeah, he said you're right as
in and then he said in a really Scottish accent.
Well played. He's playing homage to these locknest routes even
though he's not Scottech.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
So funny enough.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
He actually opened for Ario Speedwagon, whoever this is. He's
obviously an artist, like duh, that's he's got a great voice.
You know, he opened up for Rio Speedwagon. I love
his stage clue. Justin Bieber and Charlie Pooth covered his
music and he scored major dad points. I just think
that's adorable. The other clues I have no idea. Bumblebee
is tread mill Snowman, like couldn't tell you writing love songs?
(04:40):
I still so Robin, said Darryl Hall. I think I
said that last week too. I'm gonna go with Daryl Hall. Rita,
said Dave Matthews, who I love Dave matt that was
like my high school sweetheart, favorite guy.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Really.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Oh that's such good songs, Mathews so can't like off
the top of my head. I'm not to go back
onto my I'll tell you, I'll pull it up right now.
Let me tell you one of my favorites, and it's
not gonna sound.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
I know the name. I can't pluck her a song.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I can't tell you one song. Oh yeah, I can
tell you one song. Oh crash into me.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
See fashion to me? Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Anyways, uh the space between you I got as I
wouldn't have known known of these titles, but they're so good.
All right. So then there was the Battle Royale. It
was Yorki versus NeSSI, and it was hard to handle
by Otis Redding. Great song.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah, both of them are excellent. They sang really well,
but NeSSI.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Was obviously a stronger.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yeah vocally, NeSSI wins the Battle Royale and is moving
on to the Lucky Six and revealing Yorki. So Robin's
last guest was Lourie Jenny said, Erica Jane Kent said
caw Richards, Rita said Paris Hilton and Dunda Da Dun
Yorki is Erica Jane the one and only housewife, and
(06:04):
obviously she had some legal troubles with her ex husband
and all the things did you Yeah, her like ex
husband divorce, was older and had a lot of money
and then I don't know, I didn't really deep dive
into it, but apparently he got into some legal stuff
and then lost all his money and then she was
like hot shopping at Marshall's or something, and I'm like, listen,
(06:26):
there's nothing wrong with shopping at Marshall's. My entire wardrobe
is Amazon, So all good girl, you do you boo.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
But it was Erica Jane. She was great.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
We unfortunately don't have her because she wanted to, you know,
share her story on her podcast, which awesome. So we
will take a break, and then I know you've got
a lot to do today, so I'm going to take
this one solo and it's going to be me and
my girl, Chrissy Metz. First of all, I love you.
(07:04):
You're so sweet. We met a gazillion years ago. I
can't even remember what award shows at, but it was
a while ago, and you were lovely and you were
so sweet, and it's good to chat with you. I'm
so excited about your book because I love all things God.
Obviously my kids. We have a little devotional book that
I read to them every night. And what I love
(07:27):
about even just the title of your book is when
I talk to God, I talk about feelings. And that's
just it's so important to start at an early age
because even when I talk, you know, I talk my
daughter and we do the little devotional and then I'll
ask us, is there anything you want to talk about
or is anything that you're feeling? And I think it's
such an important piece that I didn't get as a
kid from my parents. And I feel like if that
(07:48):
was first of all, if I had the comfort of
knowing that someone other than my parents, but more of
a God was there protecting and watching, how much more,
how much more at peace I would be as a kid,
but yet would have led probably way better into my adulthood.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
I mean, you literally just said it all, and that
is part of the reason why I even decided to
do the book. I never really felt seen or heard
as a kid. I was a middle child of five,
and like, you know, our parents do the best they can,
but yeah, and my mom's generation was like they were
(08:25):
you know, they were seen, not heard as children and
so it's never cultivated, and then you never get to
actually not only know what you're feeling, but able to
verbalize what you're feeling and then feel validated and expressing
that feeling. So, you know, when we were reading the
first book around to churches and schools and all the
kids always wanted to talk about their feelings. They're like, oh,
(08:47):
we love the book, but let me tell you, I
was really scared last night. I had to go to
sleep by myself in the bed. You know, I just yeah,
I mean, it could be anything in everything, and I
know that if you treat the soil, because unfortunately, you know,
when we know better, we do better. Yeah, so once
(09:07):
we can sort of come to terms with ourselves, then
we can hopefully teach younger, younger hearts and minds. And
that was like the desire behind the second book. Also,
I feel like the kids really they were like, yeah,
this is what we need, this is what we want.
And for me, I'm like, yeah, okay, maybe we can
turn the time because it's taken me a long time.
(09:30):
It's taken me a long time to know what I'm
feeling and then to be able to actually communicate it.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
For you, what is what is the feeling or the
biggest feeling that you always go back to that you
struggle with on a daily basis or a periods of time.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Yeah, worthiness, worthiness, And I have abandonment issues you know,
around my father, but that of course always like funnels
down to worthiness. So I think that would be the
main one.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
What do you when you were reading the books and
talking to kids and even you know, I'm sure you
didn't you know, research when you were doing this book
about you know, feelings and stuff. What was the number
one feeling that kid struggled with.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
I think it was overall that they just wanted to
be heard, no matter what they were feeling. It could
have been about a toy or other sister, or not
having their sandwich cut the way they wanted, you know,
which ultimately is not about the sandwich, the toy, the friend, whatever.
It's do you love me enough to like stop, take
(10:38):
time hear what I have to say. No that I
like the crust, you know on the sandwich, I don't,
or that you know, this person played with the toy
and that was my turn, and like why don't I
get to play with the toy? So it was I
think maybe that's worthiness. Maybe it's feeling important, maybe it's
(10:59):
the overall like I'm umbrella feeling I think is just
like do you respect me lovely enough to like listen
to me?
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Right?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
It's so hard though, but I think learning that as
a kid again, I just think about if I had
the tools to be able to learn that, I would
have been able to instead of being so reckless in
my twenties and thirties then being able to put a
name on my recklessness and then maybe not do sure X,
Y and Z.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Yeah, you know I wasn't reckless with you know, fill
in the blank. Mine was food. Like I internalized all
the pain or the sadness, And I'm like, oh huh,
where would I be if that wasn't something that is
a daily contention of worthiness or that I felt loved
and seen and heard as a kid? Would I want
(11:47):
to sort of literally eat my troubles away? Or would
I be able to communicate them and feel like I
was valid in feeling those things no matter what it is,
because we know feelings aren't facts, but they're valid because
we're them. And I always think like where would who
would I be? Who would I be? And of course
(12:07):
the overall pictures. I'm grateful because it's what happens, you know,
for us, not to us, but it's still very painful.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
What has been your process to be able to have
peace with certain things like abandoned? I mean, I know
my journey was lots of therapy and you know, you
know every kind of retreat I could do to burn
things or three things or like rename someone or but
you know they I don't know if you've heard of
on Site, but that place was a I went there.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Oh so good.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
I went there and Miles, I.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Oh, Miles is the best he is.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
And I'm so grateful because I came off of a
project that was really really challenging mentally and emotionally.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
This is us?
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah right, well no is that? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (12:53):
A lot of emotions there, girl.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Yeah, well those were positive. The project that I did
was really it really hit at every single I think
core wound that I had, and I was like, oh,
I don't know if I want to act anymore. Yeah,
that was really scary and weird for me and I
never felt that before. And it all came back down
(13:16):
to abandonment And am I important enough for you to
like make me a consideration and a priority, and I
know that all had to go back to my father
because you know, between my therapists and I, she's like,
your father was the first person that you the first
man that you didn't feel the love that you needed from.
(13:39):
And I'm like, oh Lord, and she's right. And it
always goes back and thank goodness for onsight because I
had such wonderful insight and met incredible people and everything's
so intentional there that I was like, oh this is
this is amazing.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
And for those that are listening to it's an experiential work.
So like, and I had the same thing with you know,
my father. I had the you know, he left to
start a new family and he left me so that
I wasn't worthy of the love and so I was
like chasing trying to find that love and you know,
someone to be proud of me or whatever. And so
but I remember when we had to like be our
dad or say what we would want to hear.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
I'm like, I hat, I.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Like it's but it's such powerful work and it's it's
just placing. It's all goes back to the feelings and
what we feel around it and how we would have
felt if we heard those words from our from our
you know, dad, and what that would have how that
would have changed the course of our little inner child.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
And you know, yes, I mean I'm grateful to play
Kate and this is us because Milo's character Jack was
it was so cathartic because he was the dad I
never had, and Dan Folgerman had no idea what my
my trauma and my issues were and he doesn't I
think he doesn't know how how healing it was to
(14:55):
the depths, and so I am always reminded that like wow, like, oh,
I'm so grateful, but to never hear it from your
real father, like, that's just a wound. That grief is
still griefing. You know, it will pop up at any
(15:16):
given time.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Speaking of this is us, Uh, well, but I'll just
say back to what you said, Devalid. It kind of
what you're saying is now you have the tools to like,
it's still a wound, but hopefully it's not going to
overtake you the way that.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
It has in the past. Right.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Yeah, So that's the that's the that's the healing, that's
the growth, and that's putting the feeling on it. So
that's amazing. Speaking of though this is us. Has it
been hard for you? Because that was such an iconic
role and that is what I you know, where I
learned of you was that is it hard now? And
(15:50):
obviously you just filmed a movie and you were just
what South Africa?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Is that?
Speaker 4 (15:53):
What South America?
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah? South Africa? And so two is it is it?
Is it been hard for people to see you other
than that role? To get casted?
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Again?
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I think it's that is something that had put me
on the map and that people just resonated so deeply
with and they affiliate that with me and me with that,
which I will forever be okay with, But as an
actor and as a person who's you know, not just
(16:25):
Kate Pearson, who still wants to be seen and feel like,
oh okay, I have other things to add or to contribute. Yeah,
you know, there's always such a duality of like gratefulness
but also like will I be more than that two
people in their eyes? You know? And again that's me
(16:46):
managing people's feelings, so I try I try not to
do that. So it's me reconciling with myself like yeah, Christy,
you are you are more than Kate Pearson, even though
she put you on the map and chant. The whole
job changed your life in every single way. But there
(17:07):
are other aspects of myself that I want to share,
and that's why I do music or write books.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Yeah, because you have a beautiful voice, like I do.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
I don't know why I sent, but I'm like, you
have an amazing voice, you know, and I it's not
that I forget that, but I'm also like, oh yeah,
like you're you. You're so multifaceted with all the things
that you can do.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
I'm just going to say thank you because it's you know,
the compliments are like oh you know, I.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Know, I know, but it's true though, And then you know,
things like the Mass Singer and then was like wait,
oh crap, like if we're out, like she's an incredible singer,
like she's amazing at it, So you mean two seconds
of Mass Singer? But like what, you know, what was
that experience like for you?
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Did you? I mean I remember what I did. It
was like the best.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
It was so much fun, but like it was also
freeing to not know, I got to just go have
fun regardless of all the comments or hate or anything.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Yeah, and that I think is the beautiful aspect and
people resonate with it because it feels very liberating. You're like, oh,
nobody's judging me by the way that I look, And
if they do because the costume is adorable or whatever,
that's wonderful. I found it very challenging because of the costume.
It was very heavy, it was hot, Like I was like,
(18:17):
what you know, But I'm excited for myself that I
pushed through it. And I challenged myself because many many
moons ago. If it gets tough, I get going, I'm like, no,
go to go, can't do it. I don't think I
can do it. I don't believe in myself. Forget it.
And for me, it's like you gotta finish what you start.
(18:40):
And it was really fun and I am such a
lover of music that I was like, Okay, all right,
I'm gonna try it. But it was very challenging for me.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Well you did great. What is one of the things
where you like, I don't like talking about this? If
someone asks you a question, you're like, why do we like?
(19:10):
I don't want to talk about this?
Speaker 1 (19:12):
You know. It's it's not that I don't want to
talk about it, but I don't only want to be
like a number on a scale. You know, everybody's like
obsessed with like, oh did she lose way did she
gain weight? Oh? Why did she lose? Wait? Why did
she gain weight? Like why is she wearing that? You know,
like it's so it feels so ichy and judgy and
(19:33):
you're like, oh, like, we are more than just the number.
And I've said this from day one. We're more than
just a number on a scale or on our bank account,
you know. And I do understand like our specifically America's
obsession with weight, Yeah, bananas like I did, or not
even just waight, but like physical appearance, I should.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Say, well, they're like, oh, how do you stay in
good shape or what it's like?
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Or like her skin like healthy? I don't know. I don't.
I don't like why are we talking about that?
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Like like I don't know, but I did a movie
in the UK and like it's a non thing.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Yeah, people don't.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
They're not you know, doing all sorts of like you know, Russia.
I'm not saying that people don't take care of themselves.
It's there's not an obsession with looking as young as
humanly possible. So you're aging or aging gracefully or accepting it. Here,
it's just a very different thing.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
It's so true. I mean, I mean, yeah, I mean
it's it's very true. But I also feel like it's
because now with all the GLP ones and that's the
GLP ones and the you know, zembics and stuff, it's
it's more of a conversation, you know, because they're probably like,
oh God, are you doing it?
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Or like is it you know?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Yeah, and like I get it, like maybe some people
are because initially I was like, what is this Like
what is this thing? Like do you know do we
have research about it? Like and at the end of
the day, like if you want to do it and
it's good for you or you tried it, it doesn't work,
like whatever works for you, you know. I mean I
said to somebody else, like we don't judge people for
(21:07):
taking tail and of if they have a headache, right,
you know, like why are we worried about it? But
it's one thing if someone's curious because they're like, oh,
I think I want to try it, like and it
can enlighten people and or make them feel less alone.
But to sort of you know, be judgmental in any
(21:27):
regard and anything.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yeah, it just it doesn't have to be a conversation
to just your point, Like, it doesn't need to even
be a question.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Yeah. Yeah, And I think anything if people are genuinely
curious because they care, that's one thing. Or you know,
they're on their own journey of self discovery, let's keep
it that label. It's different than people trying to get
clickbait or trying to yeah, you know, break a story
(21:58):
or whatever. Yeah, yeah, it's interesting. I also I know
that so much of the character of Kate had to
do with, you know, her weight. But just like Kate,
just like any other person, we're not just a number
on the scale, you know, we're a full fledged person.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Right, and then you get judged one way or you know, yeah,
when you're like, oh now she's lost too much.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
What the Yeah, you're like, okay, so you don't actually
care about me, right, there's something boiling up inside of
you that's triggering something. Yeah, Because I really do believe,
and I say this all the time, that when someone's
happy and they're content, they're not picking other people apart.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
No, they don't have time.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Hey, they don't have time for it. They know it's
not productive. It's not it's not kind.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
So yeah, what do you want the biggest takeaway to
be with the book? Because I can't wait. I'm so excited.
I am I'm adding to Kart this is going to
be one of my favorite books. I already know that
I'm going to read to my kiddos. But what do
you what is your hope with the book?
Speaker 1 (23:02):
I hope that it fosters conversation between the reader and
the audience, whoever that might be on either side. That
whether it's oh, actually I've never told my kid I
felt nervous before, or my kid I was never said,
oh I feel frustrated, or that they have something welling
up inside but they don't know what in the world
(23:23):
it is. That perhaps they've seen through the pictures and
the animals expressing their emotions, which Lisa Fields are illustrated
in such an amazing job. She's incredible that maybe they
could feel less alone, that they could relate and then
in turn hopefully communicate, you know, like, hey, you know
(23:45):
Bobby in school took this away from me and instead
of maybe not that we can't cry or scream or whatever,
but to say, you know what, that made me frustrated.
I have a name to that feeling and then to
be able to communicate it and then say, well, it's
okay to feel frustrated, it's okay to feel whatever whatever
(24:09):
it is that you're feeling. But just so much of
any any of I think development is like feeling seen
and heard. So I'm hoping that the larger takeaway is yeah,
I hear you.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Well, that's all we want is to be heard, not
you know, for someone to fix it, for someone to
you know, say well, this is just just hear me.
Just and I you don't say it to my husband,
I'm like, I don't need you to fix it. I
just need you to hear me. I don't need you
to develop. I literally just want to be heard.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Yeah, just for five minutes, can I men for a
sec and just let me get it off my chest?
Speaker 2 (24:44):
And that's what we forget to do that with our
kids though, because it's like the second my kids said something,
I'm like, okay, well let me do this.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
I'm actually trying to fix it.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Yeah, I'm also just yeah, who is that person's mom?
Speaker 3 (24:56):
You know?
Speaker 1 (24:56):
And I guess because we're territorial. I don't have kids,
but I have a dog that's and I have ten
nieces and nephews, and I'm like, wait a second, so
I know those feelings, but just just being able to say, oh,
you know, I was I wasn't sure how I felt,
but I think it might be nervous. I'm feeling somebody
I haven't felt before on this first day of school
(25:19):
or whatever, that they could just sort of go back
to and bolster their confidence to feel like, hey, my
feelings are important enough for you to listen to them.
And yeah, so I mean again treating the soil.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
I love it so good, Chrissy, Thank you so much everyone,
and go get the book. When I talk to God,
I talk about feelings and we look forward to everything
that you got come up. Thank you, Thanks Carl, appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Thank you,
Swine Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Podcast Decades Night on the Mass Singer last night. It
was so fun. Babe, what's your favorite decade?
Speaker 3 (00:13):
I love like old American movies, so I like like
the sixties. Oh yeah, but I think for music, my
favorite decade is the eighties.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
It's a good decade.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
It's a good decade. It's a powerful decade. A lot
of ballads and.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Two awesome people were born in the eighties. I gotta
go nineties. Really, you love nineties, love the music, love
the era, love the non technology.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
I love the non technology. Eighties is even better than
the n eighties.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
That's true, That's very true.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
So first up to form was Yorkie, raised by a
single mom, keys on a leash, grew up fast and
people say she's cold Judges Gavel, so I think a
little legal trouble. She's had marital problems. She's saying stop
in the Name of Love by the Supremes, which is
such a fun song. And Jenny guest Erica Jane Robin
(01:12):
Laurie Laughlin Ken said cald Richards and I again one
thousand percent was like this is Erica Jane A because
of the Teddy Mellencamp story that she did. But also,
you know, I remember meeting her. She was actually she
used to dance or she danced with my old Dancing
with the Stars partner, and I could you know, she
(01:33):
she does have she comes off, like she said, people
say she's coold. She's actually really sweet when you get
into a conversation with her. But I could see why
people would think that, Well.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
She's soundly good and she's played the part where ill
of tugging on people's heartstrings with like the the quote
of her mom, you know, ultimate protector.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah, I mean it was a I think Yorki is
just really fun like she she did a great job.
So that was a great start to you know, the
Group C finalists. And then next up was the mad
Scientist Monster, so some of the clues were a cowboy
hat obviously.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Actually he went solo.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Which wasn't received though wasn't received.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Well, which is why I still think that it's Ronnie
Dune from Brooks and Dunn, because Ronnie went solo.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
From Brooks and Done.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
So I'm off of Scotty McCreary because I don't remember
Scotty McCreary being in a band, but he's sang love
Yourself by Justin Bieber love the Uh how he I
love a country person singing that song such a good song.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
It was such a good song, but he sang it
so well.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
He's amazing. Yeah, it has to be Ronnie Dunn. I'm
just going to be shocked. But Jenny said Blake Shelton,
which I don't think. Ken said Brad Paisley, which I
toured with Brad. I don't think it sounds anything like
him personally. And then Rita said Billy ray Cyris. So
he did say he performed with someone from season four,
So I might have to go back into the roll
of decks of seasons. Ronnie, I mean, I would just
(03:09):
be so.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Country music hell of a lot better than I do.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
So obviously, I just really does sound like I don't know,
I'm really excited to see who that person is.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Their'd up to perform? Was Nessy your thoughts?
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Yeah, I just love the character so in the song.
So what this song is in my top ten favorite songs.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
In Fight the Ceiling by Ario Speedwagon.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Ario Speedwagon. There, I think it's eighties.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
What decade that's done.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
I'm pretty sure it's eighties really possibly creaked into the nineties.
But anyway, in my top ten of songs, so in
the fact that he's the Lockness Monster and as a
Scottish do you know we actually put on a Scottish
accent on the show?
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Really yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
In the battle oh yeah, he said you're right as
in and then he said in a really Scottish accent.
Well played. He's playing homage to these locknest routes even
though he's not Scottech.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
So funny enough.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
He actually opened for Ario Speedwagon, whoever this is. He's
obviously an artist, like duh, that's he's got a great voice.
You know, he opened up for Rio Speedwagon. I love
his stage clue. Justin Bieber and Charlie Pooth covered his
music and he scored major dad points. I just think
that's adorable. The other clues I have no idea. Bumblebee
is tread mill Snowman, like couldn't tell you writing love songs?
(04:40):
I still so Robin, said Darryl Hall. I think I
said that last week too. I'm gonna go with Daryl Hall. Rita,
said Dave Matthews, who I love Dave matt that was
like my high school sweetheart, favorite guy.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Really.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Oh that's such good songs, Mathews so can't like off
the top of my head. I'm not to go back
onto my I'll tell you, I'll pull it up right now.
Let me tell you one of my favorites, and it's
not gonna sound.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
I know the name. I can't pluck her a song.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I can't tell you one song. Oh yeah, I can
tell you one song. Oh crash into me.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
See fashion to me? Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Anyways, uh the space between you I got as I
wouldn't have known known of these titles, but they're so good.
All right. So then there was the Battle Royale. It
was Yorki versus NeSSI, and it was hard to handle
by Otis Redding. Great song.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah, both of them are excellent. They sang really well,
but NeSSI.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Was obviously a stronger.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yeah vocally, NeSSI wins the Battle Royale and is moving
on to the Lucky Six and revealing Yorki. So Robin's
last guest was Lourie Jenny said, Erica Jane Kent said
caw Richards, Rita said Paris Hilton and Dunda Da Dun
Yorki is Erica Jane the one and only housewife, and
(06:04):
obviously she had some legal troubles with her ex husband
and all the things did you Yeah, her like ex
husband divorce, was older and had a lot of money
and then I don't know, I didn't really deep dive
into it, but apparently he got into some legal stuff
and then lost all his money and then she was
like hot shopping at Marshall's or something, and I'm like, listen,
(06:26):
there's nothing wrong with shopping at Marshall's. My entire wardrobe
is Amazon, So all good girl, you do you boo.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
But it was Erica Jane. She was great.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
We unfortunately don't have her because she wanted to, you know,
share her story on her podcast, which awesome. So we
will take a break, and then I know you've got
a lot to do today, so I'm going to take
this one solo and it's going to be me and
my girl, Chrissy Metz. First of all, I love you.
(07:04):
You're so sweet. We met a gazillion years ago. I
can't even remember what award shows at, but it was
a while ago, and you were lovely and you were
so sweet, and it's good to chat with you. I'm
so excited about your book because I love all things God.
Obviously my kids. We have a little devotional book that
I read to them every night. And what I love
(07:27):
about even just the title of your book is when
I talk to God, I talk about feelings. And that's
just it's so important to start at an early age
because even when I talk, you know, I talk my
daughter and we do the little devotional and then I'll
ask us, is there anything you want to talk about
or is anything that you're feeling? And I think it's
such an important piece that I didn't get as a
kid from my parents. And I feel like if that
(07:48):
was first of all, if I had the comfort of
knowing that someone other than my parents, but more of
a God was there protecting and watching, how much more,
how much more at peace I would be as a kid,
but yet would have led probably way better into my adulthood.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
I mean, you literally just said it all, and that
is part of the reason why I even decided to
do the book. I never really felt seen or heard
as a kid. I was a middle child of five,
and like, you know, our parents do the best they can,
but yeah, and my mom's generation was like they were
(08:25):
you know, they were seen, not heard as children and
so it's never cultivated, and then you never get to
actually not only know what you're feeling, but able to
verbalize what you're feeling and then feel validated and expressing
that feeling. So, you know, when we were reading the
first book around to churches and schools and all the
kids always wanted to talk about their feelings. They're like, oh,
(08:47):
we love the book, but let me tell you, I
was really scared last night. I had to go to
sleep by myself in the bed. You know, I just yeah,
I mean, it could be anything in everything, and I
know that if you treat the soil, because unfortunately, you know,
when we know better, we do better. Yeah, so once
(09:07):
we can sort of come to terms with ourselves, then
we can hopefully teach younger, younger hearts and minds. And
that was like the desire behind the second book. Also,
I feel like the kids really they were like, yeah,
this is what we need, this is what we want.
And for me, I'm like, yeah, okay, maybe we can
turn the time because it's taken me a long time.
(09:30):
It's taken me a long time to know what I'm
feeling and then to be able to actually communicate it.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
For you, what is what is the feeling or the
biggest feeling that you always go back to that you
struggle with on a daily basis or a periods of time.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Yeah, worthiness, worthiness, And I have abandonment issues you know,
around my father, but that of course always like funnels
down to worthiness. So I think that would be the
main one.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
What do you when you were reading the books and
talking to kids and even you know, I'm sure you
didn't you know, research when you were doing this book
about you know, feelings and stuff. What was the number
one feeling that kid struggled with.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
I think it was overall that they just wanted to
be heard, no matter what they were feeling. It could
have been about a toy or other sister, or not
having their sandwich cut the way they wanted, you know,
which ultimately is not about the sandwich, the toy, the friend, whatever.
It's do you love me enough to like stop, take
(10:38):
time hear what I have to say. No that I
like the crust, you know on the sandwich, I don't,
or that you know, this person played with the toy
and that was my turn, and like why don't I
get to play with the toy? So it was I
think maybe that's worthiness. Maybe it's feeling important, maybe it's
(10:59):
the overall like I'm umbrella feeling I think is just
like do you respect me lovely enough to like listen
to me?
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Right?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
It's so hard though, but I think learning that as
a kid again, I just think about if I had
the tools to be able to learn that, I would
have been able to instead of being so reckless in
my twenties and thirties then being able to put a
name on my recklessness and then maybe not do sure X,
Y and Z.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Yeah, you know I wasn't reckless with you know, fill
in the blank. Mine was food. Like I internalized all
the pain or the sadness, And I'm like, oh huh,
where would I be if that wasn't something that is
a daily contention of worthiness or that I felt loved
and seen and heard as a kid? Would I want
(11:47):
to sort of literally eat my troubles away? Or would
I be able to communicate them and feel like I
was valid in feeling those things no matter what it is,
because we know feelings aren't facts, but they're valid because
we're them. And I always think like where would who
would I be? Who would I be? And of course
(12:07):
the overall pictures. I'm grateful because it's what happens, you know,
for us, not to us, but it's still very painful.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
What has been your process to be able to have
peace with certain things like abandoned? I mean, I know
my journey was lots of therapy and you know, you
know every kind of retreat I could do to burn
things or three things or like rename someone or but
you know they I don't know if you've heard of
on Site, but that place was a I went there.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Oh so good.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
I went there and Miles, I.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Oh, Miles is the best he is.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
And I'm so grateful because I came off of a
project that was really really challenging mentally and emotionally.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
This is us?
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah right, well no is that? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (12:53):
A lot of emotions there, girl.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Yeah, well those were positive. The project that I did
was really it really hit at every single I think
core wound that I had, and I was like, oh,
I don't know if I want to act anymore. Yeah,
that was really scary and weird for me and I
never felt that before. And it all came back down
(13:16):
to abandonment And am I important enough for you to
like make me a consideration and a priority, and I
know that all had to go back to my father
because you know, between my therapists and I, she's like,
your father was the first person that you the first
man that you didn't feel the love that you needed from.
(13:39):
And I'm like, oh Lord, and she's right. And it
always goes back and thank goodness for onsight because I
had such wonderful insight and met incredible people and everything's
so intentional there that I was like, oh this is
this is amazing.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
And for those that are listening to it's an experiential work.
So like, and I had the same thing with you know,
my father. I had the you know, he left to
start a new family and he left me so that
I wasn't worthy of the love and so I was
like chasing trying to find that love and you know,
someone to be proud of me or whatever. And so
but I remember when we had to like be our
dad or say what we would want to hear.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
I'm like, I hat, I.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Like it's but it's such powerful work and it's it's
just placing. It's all goes back to the feelings and
what we feel around it and how we would have
felt if we heard those words from our from our
you know, dad, and what that would have how that
would have changed the course of our little inner child.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
And you know, yes, I mean I'm grateful to play
Kate and this is us because Milo's character Jack was
it was so cathartic because he was the dad I
never had, and Dan Folgerman had no idea what my
my trauma and my issues were and he doesn't I
think he doesn't know how how healing it was to
(14:55):
the depths, and so I am always reminded that like wow, like, oh,
I'm so grateful, but to never hear it from your
real father, like, that's just a wound. That grief is
still griefing. You know, it will pop up at any
(15:16):
given time.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Speaking of this is us, Uh, well, but I'll just
say back to what you said, Devalid. It kind of
what you're saying is now you have the tools to like,
it's still a wound, but hopefully it's not going to
overtake you the way that.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
It has in the past. Right.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Yeah, So that's the that's the that's the healing, that's
the growth, and that's putting the feeling on it. So
that's amazing. Speaking of though this is us. Has it
been hard for you? Because that was such an iconic
role and that is what I you know, where I
learned of you was that is it hard now? And
(15:50):
obviously you just filmed a movie and you were just
what South Africa?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Is that?
Speaker 4 (15:53):
What South America?
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah? South Africa? And so two is it is it?
Is it been hard for people to see you other
than that role? To get casted?
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Again?
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I think it's that is something that had put me
on the map and that people just resonated so deeply
with and they affiliate that with me and me with that,
which I will forever be okay with, But as an
actor and as a person who's you know, not just
(16:25):
Kate Pearson, who still wants to be seen and feel like,
oh okay, I have other things to add or to contribute. Yeah,
you know, there's always such a duality of like gratefulness
but also like will I be more than that two
people in their eyes? You know? And again that's me
(16:46):
managing people's feelings, so I try I try not to
do that. So it's me reconciling with myself like yeah, Christy,
you are you are more than Kate Pearson, even though
she put you on the map and chant. The whole
job changed your life in every single way. But there
(17:07):
are other aspects of myself that I want to share,
and that's why I do music or write books.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Yeah, because you have a beautiful voice, like I do.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
I don't know why I sent, but I'm like, you
have an amazing voice, you know, and I it's not
that I forget that, but I'm also like, oh yeah,
like you're you. You're so multifaceted with all the things
that you can do.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
I'm just going to say thank you because it's you know,
the compliments are like oh you know, I.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Know, I know, but it's true though, And then you know,
things like the Mass Singer and then was like wait,
oh crap, like if we're out, like she's an incredible singer,
like she's amazing at it, So you mean two seconds
of Mass Singer? But like what, you know, what was
that experience like for you?
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Did you? I mean I remember what I did. It
was like the best.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
It was so much fun, but like it was also
freeing to not know, I got to just go have
fun regardless of all the comments or hate or anything.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Yeah, and that I think is the beautiful aspect and
people resonate with it because it feels very liberating. You're like, oh,
nobody's judging me by the way that I look, And
if they do because the costume is adorable or whatever,
that's wonderful. I found it very challenging because of the costume.
It was very heavy, it was hot, Like I was like,
(18:17):
what you know, But I'm excited for myself that I
pushed through it. And I challenged myself because many many
moons ago. If it gets tough, I get going, I'm like, no,
go to go, can't do it. I don't think I
can do it. I don't believe in myself. Forget it.
And for me, it's like you gotta finish what you start.
(18:40):
And it was really fun and I am such a
lover of music that I was like, Okay, all right,
I'm gonna try it. But it was very challenging for me.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Well you did great. What is one of the things
where you like, I don't like talking about this? If
someone asks you a question, you're like, why do we like?
(19:10):
I don't want to talk about this?
Speaker 1 (19:12):
You know. It's it's not that I don't want to
talk about it, but I don't only want to be
like a number on a scale. You know, everybody's like
obsessed with like, oh did she lose way did she
gain weight? Oh? Why did she lose? Wait? Why did
she gain weight? Like why is she wearing that? You know,
like it's so it feels so ichy and judgy and
(19:33):
you're like, oh, like, we are more than just the number.
And I've said this from day one. We're more than
just a number on a scale or on our bank account,
you know. And I do understand like our specifically America's
obsession with weight, Yeah, bananas like I did, or not
even just waight, but like physical appearance, I should.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Say, well, they're like, oh, how do you stay in
good shape or what it's like?
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Or like her skin like healthy? I don't know. I don't.
I don't like why are we talking about that?
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Like like I don't know, but I did a movie
in the UK and like it's a non thing.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Yeah, people don't.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
They're not you know, doing all sorts of like you know, Russia.
I'm not saying that people don't take care of themselves.
It's there's not an obsession with looking as young as
humanly possible. So you're aging or aging gracefully or accepting it. Here,
it's just a very different thing.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
It's so true. I mean, I mean, yeah, I mean
it's it's very true. But I also feel like it's
because now with all the GLP ones and that's the
GLP ones and the you know, zembics and stuff, it's
it's more of a conversation, you know, because they're probably like,
oh God, are you doing it?
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Or like is it you know?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Yeah, and like I get it, like maybe some people
are because initially I was like, what is this Like
what is this thing? Like do you know do we
have research about it? Like and at the end of
the day, like if you want to do it and
it's good for you or you tried it, it doesn't work,
like whatever works for you, you know. I mean I
said to somebody else, like we don't judge people for
(21:07):
taking tail and of if they have a headache, right,
you know, like why are we worried about it? But
it's one thing if someone's curious because they're like, oh,
I think I want to try it, like and it
can enlighten people and or make them feel less alone.
But to sort of you know, be judgmental in any
(21:27):
regard and anything.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yeah, it just it doesn't have to be a conversation
to just your point, Like, it doesn't need to even
be a question.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Yeah. Yeah, And I think anything if people are genuinely
curious because they care, that's one thing. Or you know,
they're on their own journey of self discovery, let's keep
it that label. It's different than people trying to get
clickbait or trying to yeah, you know, break a story
(21:58):
or whatever. Yeah, yeah, it's interesting. I also I know
that so much of the character of Kate had to
do with, you know, her weight. But just like Kate,
just like any other person, we're not just a number
on the scale, you know, we're a full fledged person.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Right, and then you get judged one way or you know, yeah,
when you're like, oh now she's lost too much.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
What the Yeah, you're like, okay, so you don't actually
care about me, right, there's something boiling up inside of
you that's triggering something. Yeah, Because I really do believe,
and I say this all the time, that when someone's
happy and they're content, they're not picking other people apart.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
No, they don't have time.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Hey, they don't have time for it. They know it's
not productive. It's not it's not kind.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
So yeah, what do you want the biggest takeaway to
be with the book? Because I can't wait. I'm so excited.
I am I'm adding to Kart this is going to
be one of my favorite books. I already know that
I'm going to read to my kiddos. But what do
you what is your hope with the book?
Speaker 1 (23:02):
I hope that it fosters conversation between the reader and
the audience, whoever that might be on either side. That
whether it's oh, actually I've never told my kid I
felt nervous before, or my kid I was never said,
oh I feel frustrated, or that they have something welling
up inside but they don't know what in the world
(23:23):
it is. That perhaps they've seen through the pictures and
the animals expressing their emotions, which Lisa Fields are illustrated
in such an amazing job. She's incredible that maybe they
could feel less alone, that they could relate and then
in turn hopefully communicate, you know, like, hey, you know
(23:45):
Bobby in school took this away from me and instead
of maybe not that we can't cry or scream or whatever,
but to say, you know what, that made me frustrated.
I have a name to that feeling and then to
be able to communicate it and then say, well, it's
okay to feel frustrated, it's okay to feel whatever whatever
(24:09):
it is that you're feeling. But just so much of
any any of I think development is like feeling seen
and heard. So I'm hoping that the larger takeaway is yeah,
I hear you.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Well, that's all we want is to be heard, not
you know, for someone to fix it, for someone to
you know, say well, this is just just hear me.
Just and I you don't say it to my husband,
I'm like, I don't need you to fix it. I
just need you to hear me. I don't need you
to develop. I literally just want to be heard.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Yeah, just for five minutes, can I men for a
sec and just let me get it off my chest?
Speaker 2 (24:44):
And that's what we forget to do that with our
kids though, because it's like the second my kids said something,
I'm like, okay, well let me do this.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
I'm actually trying to fix it.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Yeah, I'm also just yeah, who is that person's mom?
Speaker 3 (24:56):
You know?
Speaker 1 (24:56):
And I guess because we're territorial. I don't have kids,
but I have a dog that's and I have ten
nieces and nephews, and I'm like, wait a second, so
I know those feelings, but just just being able to say, oh,
you know, I was I wasn't sure how I felt,
but I think it might be nervous. I'm feeling somebody
I haven't felt before on this first day of school
(25:19):
or whatever, that they could just sort of go back
to and bolster their confidence to feel like, hey, my
feelings are important enough for you to listen to them.
And yeah, so I mean again treating the soil.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
I love it so good, Chrissy, Thank you so much everyone,
and go get the book. When I talk to God,
I talk about feelings and we look forward to everything
that you got come up. Thank you, Thanks Carl, appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Thank you,
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Decisions, Decisions
Welcome to "Decisions, Decisions," the podcast where boundaries are pushed, and conversations get candid! Join your favorite hosts, Mandii B and WeezyWTF, as they dive deep into the world of non-traditional relationships and explore the often-taboo topics surrounding dating, sex, and love. Every Monday, Mandii and Weezy invite you to unlearn the outdated narratives dictated by traditional patriarchal norms. With a blend of humor, vulnerability, and authenticity, they share their personal journeys navigating their 30s, tackling the complexities of modern relationships, and engaging in thought-provoking discussions that challenge societal expectations. From groundbreaking interviews with diverse guests to relatable stories that resonate with your experiences, "Decisions, Decisions" is your go-to source for open dialogue about what it truly means to love and connect in today's world. Get ready to reshape your understanding of relationships and embrace the freedom of authentic connections—tune in and join the conversation!