April 23, 2025 • 34 mins
How interested is the media in the passing of a Pope and the election of the next?
Is there anything happening right now that plays a role in how the midterms are shaping?? We spoke with senior contributor Dave Zanotti about what mistakes right now may cost a side later!
Mourners are filing past Pope Francis, who is lying in state at the Vatican. National Correspondent RORY O’NEILL will have details on Saturday’s funeral and who is planning to attend. He will also discuss the steps for choosing the next Pope.
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little search and you couldn't find us. Now, yesterday there
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was quite a bit, but today Fox News, you've got
to go six to ten stories deep to find something.
Ye on the papacy. Well, it just it begs the
question does the Holy Sea still matter? And if so? How?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I think this is interesting, Michael, and completely underreported.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
First off, I found it fascinating that immediately upon the
Pope's death and then for the next say, forty eight hours,
Fox News acted as if now on their phone app website,
which is really their dominant delivery system and probably more
more dominant than television, you found almost nothing about the
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death of the Pope. Well, at the same time as
the days unfolded, as you look at the Fox News site,
it was six deep it was ten deep. Meanwhile, it's
the top six straight stories on the New York Times,
on the Washington Post.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
And I'm thinking to myself, this is weird.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
You know, there are about a half a dozen towers
that try to define reality for us. Every morning you
get the Wall Street Journal and the Fox News and
the New York Times, Washington Post, Atlantic. They're out there
emanating messages, broadcasting, telecasting and in print mechanisms now over
our phone apps, largely trying to tell us what's happening
and what's real. Well, there's a lot of Catholics in
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the world, and in the United States, depending on how
you analyze the statistics, between fifty to three and seventy
million people still the conservative number of the Catholic Church.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
The conservative numbers are sixty million in the United States,
and we're talking I think it's four point two billion
in the world. I mean, I had somebody in the
talk back, and I'm not making fun of them, but
they were just like, why should we care about the
pope because there's sixty million Catholics in America at least,
and because there's four point two billion in the world.
I mean, it's interesting. It's almost as if it's it's
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almost as if the papacy has fallen in to the
political matrix, if you will.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
I think that's a fair and logical conclusion. It's crystal
clear that Fox News doesn't give a whole heck of
a lot about this issue, and of course they have
every right to do so. But now we're seeing that
it's no longer this isn't look the death of a
pope is news. I understand. I'm not a Roman Catholic.
I'm not either my job. My job is historical, political,
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and legal.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
But I can count.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
In the United States, presidency is gathering the majority of
president electorals seventy five to eighty million people voting, and
you've got seventy or sixty or fifty two million, depending
on whose numbers you're looking at Roman Catholics, and they vote.
That is a significant impact on American cultural life. Let
alone all of the academic centers, the parish priests, and
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local parish and congregations. But let's talk about the fact
this is the institution of the Roman Catholic Church. Whether
you like it or hate, it is the oldest operating
corporation in the human race. It's been around for two
thousand years functioning and it's still functioning today. So when
it's leader who has tremendous influence over every aspect of
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it disappears by death, you say, okay, that's news. So
I just wonder I find it interesting that Fox is
more interested in talking about defaming and crushing Democrats and
they are a genuine world news story and an American.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Well and by the way, that's the second news phenomenon
I experienced. My daughter's best friend goes to Florida State University.
I got to tell you when I started interviewing a
long time ago, almost two years ago with iHeart, about
two steps into the process, they said, well, you know,
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we really can't do anything. You really need to spend
some time with Chris Berry. Well, I'm not a network guy,
you know this. I'm not a nerd that pours over
the radio trades and networks. And he's not a social climbery.
Yeah yeah, not a you know, a Fanny kiss. But
I knew Chris Berry WBBM, ABC, and I was like
really nervous to me. So the way I diffused it
(08:11):
was when he got on the phone, I basically said, listen,
I don't follow a lot of people's careers, yours, I
have you. I know this guy was side by side
with Peter Jennings. I said, listen, it's gonna take me
a while to get used to talking to you. But
he is such a news person. And Chris breaks news
stories daily fifteen twenty minutes before the networks. But let
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me get to the strange part of the story. So
I get a text and it's a news alert coming
from Chris that there is an active shooter at Florida
State University. Well, naturally, Shabani comes to mind. I go
and I tell Andrew it took twenty minutes before these
daytime Fox shows. They have the Outnumbered show and they're
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just doing softball topics with somebody. Nobody's breaking in and
I'm going, what is going on?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
What is going on?
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Finally, in the middle of something, you just see the
person stall and they're like staring. That means the producer's
talking to them in the ears. They utter a one
sentence line. I go to CNN. They didn't do anything
for another fifteen minutes. It was just as if you know,
everybody is so focused on these narratives, or as you
said in Foxes and the criticism of Fox all I
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could do the same criticism at MSNBC and all the
rest of the left. One side is so focused on
Trump arrangement. One side is so focused on bashing Democrats.
It's as though we've lost sight of news. Remember the
days where we almost needed an MTV too, because MTV
wasn't playing music videos anymore. They were all doing reality shows.
So there is something strange going on. I mean, I
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guess death of journalism, death of news judgment. And I
don't want to over focus, but if we are going
to focus on the papacy, this is a big deal.
You know, for two thousand years, we went from Pope Benedict,
a conservative, to Pope Francis, very progressive red and I
were breaking down the numbers of the one hundred and
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thirty five cardinals that will vote in this conclave. Eighty
percent of them are Francis's people.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
There's one hundred and eight of them.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yeah, and there's only like twenty left from Benedict, and
I think two left from John Paul the second. So
you know, we're seeing a cultural and political shift in America.
There is some political divide within the Catholic Church, and
this is going to be settled by a heavily leaning
progressive conclave. To me, there's a lot of and then
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you know the whole tradition of it, the conclave, you know,
being sequestered, and then the black smoke when they don't
have a vote, white smoke when they do. And it's
like this time there just doesn't seem something seems different
and I can't put my finger on it.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Well, I do think it's the derangement syndrome, I think,
and it's the low effect.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Well, you and I have been seeing this coming for years.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
It's interesting talking about you and I got to Nashville
at the same time, yeah, same year, and didn't know
each other at the time, but we ended up in
the same spot. And it's interesting because there is a
shift from when we started in Nashville to where we
are today. Dramatic shift. Dramatic shift. I mean we get
started on the radio nineteen eighty nine. News actually mattered
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in nineteen eighty nine. You could actually take a newspaper
and read it, and honest to goodness, you could get.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Real stories about what was going on.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Now you wake up and it's all about here and
makeup and who's bash and who what.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
It's just as well.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
There are sixty million Catholics that are waiting on their
new direction and leader, and yet you've got people doing
posts about things Francis said on global warming and you
know that kind of thing. And then you know, I
grew up in Chicago and New Orleans, very heavy Catholic areas.
My last name should tell you that I was born
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into a Catholic family, even though I'm not athlic today.
Tulsa not so much. But this is the first place
I lived where there is a somewhat anti Catholic sentiment
kind of a thing, and I never experienced that until
I moved here eighteen years ago. But put all that aside.
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Just from a news this is just news. The pope
is dead, There's going to be a new pope. The
direction of the church. Will it tends to pendulum? Will
it go back conservative? Will it go even further? Will
there be one of Francis's. I mean, the front runners
are all, you know, Francis underlings, So you might even
get a Francis the second I mean, out of this,
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I don't, but nobody's even wanting to cover it other
than Show's body in the casket. It really is different
this time.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Issues of gender, marriage and human life, the preservation of
human life, and abortion. These are issues that are underlying
driving engines in the American political enterprise at every level,
particularly federal offices from Congress on up to the White House,
and even more so now at the state level. If
the next pope that's elected decided that it's time for
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the church to change its position on any of those issues,
that will have substantive, maybe even definitive impact on what
happens in the twenty twenty sixth election.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I mean, if you just.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Want to be purely political, it's the top story in
the world right now in regards to what's happening in politics.
Fox completely blind to it or not caring, or maybe
something even worse.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I don't know. All I know is that when it.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Comes to Fox, there's more and sometimes it seems like
there's more interested in hearing makeup than there is on
what's actually happening in the world.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yeah, you would think after the movie Bombshell they would
have moved away from that, but they don't appear to have.
All Right more with David Snatty coming.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Up, It's Your Morning Show with Michael del Chino.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
But you guys are having a conversation about something, and
I'm like, do we really want to do this on
the air. Okay, So all the memes and all the
jokes are jd Vance. He visits with the Pope, and
then mysteriously the Pope dies hours later. You know everything
that I'm reading. Francis knew he was dying, in fact,
so much so that his nurse, who were his last
words were to his nurse, he asked the nurse for
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one more ride, and even he looked at him and said,
you think I can do it? And they went and
the Pope will be and took a little drive. It
was really kind of his way of saying fairwell to
the people on Easter. In other words, I think a
lot of people knew the Pope was going to die.
I think the Pope knew he was going to die.
So converted Catholic potential presidential candidate JD. Vance gets a
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visit in just under the wire. Are we missing something
political there?
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Well?
Speaker 4 (14:41):
And according to media reports, that visit was denied, which
would make sense.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
It's holy weak.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
I mean, the Pope's kind of busy right now, and
he hadn't exactly been feeling well. So it's not like
there's a line of politicians waiting to get their tickets punched.
This was a very unusual and particularly cast in this
level of intention.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
The Pope knew his hours were limited.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
And sixty million votes in America with Catholics on the line,
and is this the last wink to basically say we
like this converted Catholic and.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
This is the guy that if I've got one last
word to say, I like this guy. I'm sorry, it's
call me skeptical, whatever you like. But it just looks
a little political to me, or just a clinky dinky.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
All right, when we come back with David Zanati, let's
talk about what the Democrats are doing right now. It
looks like political suicide. The writings on the wall that
AOC is going to be their front runner and the
torch has been passed from Bernie Sanders. How does all
this play out? How much of this really matters and
is on the scoreboard and how the midterms will be shaped?
(15:45):
Is it just too early, very little or a lot
and very telling? When your morning show continues.
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an eye on the content. Our senior contributor, David Zanatti's here,
and I'm Michael del Jornal. Just to wrap things up
on the pope, yesterday we covered Nostra Damas had a
quad train back in fifteen fifty five, and this would
be post what some people attribute to COVID and famines
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and hurricanes and all that stuff. That there would be
a black pope and that he would have the support
of a king. Now, if you go into that of
the front runners, Peter Turkson would be the leading candidate
for Nostro Damas. Now, as for Nostr Del jarno I
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said it would be Mattea Zupi and that potentially that's
just a continuation of Francis's reign. Could even take the
name Francis the Second. Here's the updated numbers real quickly.
Parallone is still the front runner, although he has fallen
from thirty seven percent to twenty nine percent. Louis Antonio Tago,
the Filipino cardinal, was twenty three percent. He has fallen
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into twenty one percent. Zupie is now in third. He
went from ten up to eleven percent. Peter Turkson ticked
up one to eight percent, and Perabista Pizza ball went
from six percent to eight percent. And yes, we were
talking about it off the air, a cardinal from Dallas
by way of Dublin will be the dean of the conclave,
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which will begin in the next week and a half
or so.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Wait a minute, is this like on a sports wagering
site or something, these odds or Vegas is Vegas.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Got odds on this?
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Well, that's normally up to our sports book head, Big John.
But big Big John will get you the latest numbers
on the betting. But d we're getting ours from where
the from polymarket? Polymarket. Yeah, so that's the running odds.
Although you know, for those that have watched the movie Conclave.
It is very interesting how much this is parallel with
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the movie, and that the movie was centered around the
progressive liberal cardinals versus the one loan conservative cardinal. And
one would have to wonder, you know, movement towards youth
and movement back towards tradition or conservativism versus what seems
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to be eighty percent of that will be voting that
are progressive.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Along with Francis So and again, Michael, I want to
be careful that I don't think for a second that
the Catholic community votes in any way in a monolithic fashion,
whether they're parish priest or local bishop or the pope
has got one position or the other.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
But to suggest that there isn't the influence of between
fifty two and seventy million people listening to their leadership,
that would be to be missing a significant portion of
the news as it relates to American politics, all right,
and global politics.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
And speaking of American politics, all right, let's talk about
the Democrat Party. One. We saw Robmy Manuel on a
very leftist podcast called I've Had It, and Jennifer Wells
just hammers him. Robby Manuel's trying to pivot back towards
the American people and back towards the center. Most of
the party wants to double down in Trump derangement and
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double down on open borders, double down on Garcia is
a victim, and you know all this other stuff. The
direction of the party, it will play out. I think
they're going to pull an AOC Obama. What do I mean?
Barack Obama speaks to the Democratic Convention and knocks everybody
on their feet. They take him from the state Legislature
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in Illinois to the United States Senate, and sixty days
later begin his candidacy for President of the United States.
I don't have to tell you. He goes on to
win and serve two terms, the last two term president
for the Democrats. The plan I think is have Crockett
become the new AOC and AOC become the new Bernie Sanders.
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Bernie has done all he could to hand that torch
to her. The polling numbers in New York would suggest
Schumer is more than vulnerable. In the latest poll that
we shared, he's had a thirty nine percent favorability forty
nine percent unfavorability. With the Siana College poll, he's underwater
ten percent Contrast that to AOC who is sitting with
(20:59):
a forty seven percent favorability rating a thirty three percent
unfavorability rating. That would tell you the voters in New
York want them to double down left and that she
would be the heir apparent. And among Democrats she has
a sixty four percent favorability rating. History repeating itself. Is
AOC going to take out Schumer and that will catapult
the momentum into her turning around and running for president.
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Already among the squad, the socialist Bernie Sanders crowd, she'll
be a front runner like Bernie was in twenty sixteen
and twenty twenty. I mean, is this the direction of
the party? And now they're all in on the tariffs
blowing up in Trump's face, and he's cutting deals that
could be over before the midterms, and there's this movement
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to have the party being taken over by the socialist Democrat.
How much of what's happening today is really on the
scoreboard and going to impact and shape the midterm elections
or is it still way too early and irrelevant.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Well that's kind of a yesterday because you have picked
up a strain of reality here that's really important. We
need to talk about this, and that is what are
the players behind the scenes, the billionaire cartel, that is
the progressive movement, and is the Democrat Party. Who are
they selecting. Are they going to make a commitment? Well,
they have to because it's an open seat presidential election
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with a warm up of a really important congressional race
where the advantages tends to go to the party out
of power. So they've got a tremendous window of opportunity here.
And if they choose to elevate AOC with their protection
and their money and the six towers of major news
basically pinging her on the upward dimension at all times, yes,
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they could do exactly what you're talking about. And her
advantage is because of her the nature of the way
she conducts herself. She is an intimidator, She is bombastic,
and it's difficult to deal with someone coming from that perspective.
Now that being said, with absolutely no credence for her politics,
for legal perspective, or her historical understandings. There is a
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certain romance to the idea that America could elect a
bartender from New York to the presidency of the United
States because after all, we raise our kids saying anybody
can be president.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
So they've got a narrative that will work.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
And because she's a woman, she has a profound advantage.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Wouldn't the party you can't.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Fight fair with a woman running for the president. Wouldn't
You got to.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Be careful, but wouldn't wouldn't they be kind of going
against the tide in that? Look, if you couldn't get
Hillary elected as a woman, if you couldn't get Kamala
Harris elected in a primary or even after you handed
her the nomination, great question. You really think a third woman,
a bartender, AOC radical socialist left. Now I agree that
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that portion of the party whose goal is to take
over the party, then get rid of the electoral college,
then dismantle the Republic. She will be the front runner
because they're activists and they will be out there and
they'll be voting. And then you add one other rink
to this, and that is David Hogg Parkland shooting. Not
that he was actually in the school when the shooting
(24:06):
took place, but you know, he becomes a darling of
the Parkland shooting. Now he's raising ny to get rid
of all the old people Schumer would definitely fall under that,
and he is the vice chair of the DNC. So
the DNC is going to try to do what they
did in twenty sixteen, where they gave you Hillary even
though the people wanted Bernie. And then in twenty twenty
they gave you Biden when the people wanted Bernie, and
(24:26):
then they held weekend at Biden until they were ready
to jettison him, and then they just handed all of
his votes to Kamala Harris. All right, well, the problem
this time is the people are going to choose AOC,
but you've got this guy in the middle. You've got
a wolf in the henhouse. So I think all the
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presses on to get rid of David Hog and get
rid of him in a hurry because they want to
usher in Wes Moore and Ronnie Manuel. But the problem
is will the Democrat voters be over their Trump derangement
syndrome by then to be reasonable?
Speaker 4 (25:05):
And where will the establishment of the Democrat Party versus
the billionaire cartel that has hollowed out that establishment and
now creates its own power of influence in this Where
will that play happen? The key to remember, though, is
that all of us in this world tend to look
at everything in light of the last two or three battles.
This is a completely different battle. This will be a
(25:28):
reaction to the Trump presidency. It will be an open
seat election, which means at the start all bets are off.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
So if the election.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Is defined upon performance or lack of performance, is in
regards to what happened with Trump. Remember Trump was sailing
in his first administration. COVID completely collapsed the reality and
it turned into a reaction area. This was a reelect situation,
not an open seat. If this is going to be
a referendum on Trump, they're going to start with a
base of seventy million.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Votes right now.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
So this is going to be a very close election
just by the nature of what's going to happen in
that it's an open seat and the billionaires are not
going to sit it out, not for an open seat election.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
All right, So the midterms clearly are going to be
a run against Trump, a run against Musk, which is
to say, Trump and must arrangement syndrome is going to
be a run against Doge, and a run against the
trade wars that Trump is created. He may have the
(26:31):
trade wars resolved by the midterm. Will most people are
behind Doge and behind the president, especially with the border.
So if you go one layer deep beyond derangement, there's
really nothing to run against. Where are they headed with
these midterms and what do they need to happen? Because
(26:51):
I don't see anything other than the leftist movement, which
is this notion that we've got to fight harder, we
got to go left not center. That will be present
in the midterm, that emotion. But I don't know I
can if I can find any issue they can run
on that's really registering right in congressional districts.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
The country is every bit as micro split as it
can be, and that's why you have these fractional majorities
in the House and the Senate. Fractional majorities in the
House and the Senate are not majorities at all. That's
what we're finding out. The Congress is absolutely in park.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Now.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
I know that there are people who are insiders who
are going to be screaming at the radio saying you're
how hard they're working and blah blah blah blah blah. Look,
I can count, I can read a calendar. It's April
twenty third, where is Congress. Where is Congress?
Speaker 2 (27:42):
It's all been Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump Trump.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
The Congress is not supposed to take a pass and
stand in line and wait for the president to do everything.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Where are they The reason.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
That they're not able to move is because their majorities
are fractional. And when this breaks out into an actual
political fight with every seat open, it's going to come
down to who's got the billionaires with the quality candidates
in the local level in the key districts. We're not
even going to see it until sixty days before it
actually happens because it's so divided and nobody's paying attention.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
So right now, the question is who's on the ground
working the hardest.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
And you add to that the low approval rating of
all members of Congress, and he added that hog and
all his money trying to target the elderly ones. And
if these socialist Democrats make a move, and they always
do against establishment Democrats, how that could upset the waters
in some of these close races.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Now, I think you've said one of the things really
really important, Michael Doze, is the best thing that's going
right now in the American system is of government looking
in the mirror that is very powerful, but this morning's
news Musk is already explaining that he's moving out.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Listen. They can't afford to lose momentum.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Doze, Well, he's lost seventy one million dollars or something
in the latest trip seventy one percent. Yes, I'm way
more than seventy one million. All right, David, great, great conversation.
Maybe we can talk again soon. You can catch on
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Whitehouse says there's about eighteen trade proposals on paper as
we speak, meetings with thirty four countries, but to jd.
Vance secure the first deal with India.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
Already speaking at an event in Johannpoorter, India, Vance said
President Trump is being criticized we're starting a trade war
to bring jobs back from the past, but that nothing
could be further from the truth.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
He seeks to rebalance global trade so that America, with
friends like India, can build a future worth having for
al of our people.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Together.
Speaker 6 (29:52):
Ranci's visit comes after the US at India with a
twenty six percent reciprocal tariff on its goods, but those
import taxes have been suspended for ninety t leaving a
ten percent baseline tariff.
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ESPN announced the death of longtime play by play announcer
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Sir filing past Pope Francis again lying in state at
the Vatican. National Correspondent Roy o'neils here with all the
(31:34):
details for Saturday's funeral. Good morning, Rory, Yeah, Good morning Michael.
Speaker 9 (31:38):
We know that President Trump will leave Washington for the
Vatican on Friday night and then returns Saturday night, so
it's going to be a very quick trip. But dignitaries
from around the world will be in attendance, including President
Zelinsky from Ukraine, Peter Starmer, the British Prime Minister Prince
William will be making the trip, not the King and Queen.
(31:59):
They had actually just seen the Pope a couple of
weeks ago when they travel to Rome for their twentieth
wedding anniversary. Obviously a long time now between the funeral
rather the events that are unfolding at the Saint Peter's
Basilica today, where the Pope's body is now lying in
state and well wishers are passing by the casket by
(32:19):
the thousands. By the way, would you take a photo
there with your phone? Lots of people are.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Yeah, I you know, no, I think that's disrespectful, but
all right, So walk us through between now in the
funeral we get and then after the funeral, how soon
before the conclave begins, and then we get the interesting
news it'll actually be a cardinal from Dallas, Texas by
way of Dublin, Ireland, who would be the dean of
(32:45):
the college.
Speaker 9 (32:46):
Right, he is the man in charge essentially as things
are as there is only one person sort of filling
in for the Pope in a very limited role, but
making the decisions about how some of these funeral proceedings
will happen in the scheduling of events as well. But
that conclave is expected to start about two weeks after
(33:08):
the funeral. Somewhere in there we're into nine official days
of morning by the Church. Then the conclave will follow,
so by say the second week of May is reasonable
to see things start. Most of the cardinals will remain
in Rome, arriving now ahead of the funeral. There is
a hotel essentially for them in the Vatican, a very
(33:29):
limited I've seen it described as a three star hotel,
but it's where the cardinals will be comfortable. By the way,
Pope Francis lived in that hotel, declining the papal apartment
at the Vatican. This is the same hotel where the
cardinals will live during the.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Conclave, although his doors were sealed as it was in
the movie. And you know, you wonder, like the movie,
if there's going to be and there's time for this
and this isn't it yet, but if the attention will
turn to the progressive versus conservative balance and how the
cardinals vote a lot of similarities whether the movie played
(34:06):
out that is kind of in the background playing out
when we get to the conclave ory, great reporting.
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was quite a bit, but today Fox News, you've got
to go six to ten stories deep to find something.
Ye on the papacy. Well, it just it begs the
question does the Holy Sea still matter? And if so? How?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I think this is interesting, Michael, and completely underreported.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
First off, I found it fascinating that immediately upon the
Pope's death and then for the next say, forty eight hours,
Fox News acted as if now on their phone app website,
which is really their dominant delivery system and probably more
more dominant than television, you found almost nothing about the
(04:40):
death of the Pope. Well, at the same time as
the days unfolded, as you look at the Fox News site,
it was six deep it was ten deep. Meanwhile, it's
the top six straight stories on the New York Times,
on the Washington Post.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
And I'm thinking to myself, this is weird.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
You know, there are about a half a dozen towers
that try to define reality for us. Every morning you
get the Wall Street Journal and the Fox News and
the New York Times, Washington Post, Atlantic. They're out there
emanating messages, broadcasting, telecasting and in print mechanisms now over
our phone apps, largely trying to tell us what's happening
and what's real. Well, there's a lot of Catholics in
(05:20):
the world, and in the United States, depending on how
you analyze the statistics, between fifty to three and seventy
million people still the conservative number of the Catholic Church.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
The conservative numbers are sixty million in the United States,
and we're talking I think it's four point two billion
in the world. I mean, I had somebody in the
talk back, and I'm not making fun of them, but
they were just like, why should we care about the
pope because there's sixty million Catholics in America at least,
and because there's four point two billion in the world.
I mean, it's interesting. It's almost as if it's it's
(05:55):
almost as if the papacy has fallen in to the
political matrix, if you will.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
I think that's a fair and logical conclusion. It's crystal
clear that Fox News doesn't give a whole heck of
a lot about this issue, and of course they have
every right to do so. But now we're seeing that
it's no longer this isn't look the death of a
pope is news. I understand. I'm not a Roman Catholic.
I'm not either my job. My job is historical, political,
(06:24):
and legal.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
But I can count.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
In the United States, presidency is gathering the majority of
president electorals seventy five to eighty million people voting, and
you've got seventy or sixty or fifty two million, depending
on whose numbers you're looking at Roman Catholics, and they vote.
That is a significant impact on American cultural life. Let
alone all of the academic centers, the parish priests, and
(06:51):
local parish and congregations. But let's talk about the fact
this is the institution of the Roman Catholic Church. Whether
you like it or hate, it is the oldest operating
corporation in the human race. It's been around for two
thousand years functioning and it's still functioning today. So when
it's leader who has tremendous influence over every aspect of
(07:13):
it disappears by death, you say, okay, that's news. So
I just wonder I find it interesting that Fox is
more interested in talking about defaming and crushing Democrats and
they are a genuine world news story and an American.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Well and by the way, that's the second news phenomenon
I experienced. My daughter's best friend goes to Florida State University.
I got to tell you when I started interviewing a
long time ago, almost two years ago with iHeart, about
two steps into the process, they said, well, you know,
(07:49):
we really can't do anything. You really need to spend
some time with Chris Berry. Well, I'm not a network guy,
you know this. I'm not a nerd that pours over
the radio trades and networks. And he's not a social climbery.
Yeah yeah, not a you know, a Fanny kiss. But
I knew Chris Berry WBBM, ABC, and I was like
really nervous to me. So the way I diffused it
(08:11):
was when he got on the phone, I basically said, listen,
I don't follow a lot of people's careers, yours, I
have you. I know this guy was side by side
with Peter Jennings. I said, listen, it's gonna take me
a while to get used to talking to you. But
he is such a news person. And Chris breaks news
stories daily fifteen twenty minutes before the networks. But let
(08:34):
me get to the strange part of the story. So
I get a text and it's a news alert coming
from Chris that there is an active shooter at Florida
State University. Well, naturally, Shabani comes to mind. I go
and I tell Andrew it took twenty minutes before these
daytime Fox shows. They have the Outnumbered show and they're
(08:56):
just doing softball topics with somebody. Nobody's breaking in and
I'm going, what is going on?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
What is going on?
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Finally, in the middle of something, you just see the
person stall and they're like staring. That means the producer's
talking to them in the ears. They utter a one
sentence line. I go to CNN. They didn't do anything
for another fifteen minutes. It was just as if you know,
everybody is so focused on these narratives, or as you
said in Foxes and the criticism of Fox all I
(09:24):
could do the same criticism at MSNBC and all the
rest of the left. One side is so focused on
Trump arrangement. One side is so focused on bashing Democrats.
It's as though we've lost sight of news. Remember the
days where we almost needed an MTV too, because MTV
wasn't playing music videos anymore. They were all doing reality shows.
So there is something strange going on. I mean, I
(09:45):
guess death of journalism, death of news judgment. And I
don't want to over focus, but if we are going
to focus on the papacy, this is a big deal.
You know, for two thousand years, we went from Pope Benedict,
a conservative, to Pope Francis, very progressive red and I
were breaking down the numbers of the one hundred and
(10:06):
thirty five cardinals that will vote in this conclave. Eighty
percent of them are Francis's people.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
There's one hundred and eight of them.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yeah, and there's only like twenty left from Benedict, and
I think two left from John Paul the second. So
you know, we're seeing a cultural and political shift in America.
There is some political divide within the Catholic Church, and
this is going to be settled by a heavily leaning
progressive conclave. To me, there's a lot of and then
(10:35):
you know the whole tradition of it, the conclave, you know,
being sequestered, and then the black smoke when they don't
have a vote, white smoke when they do. And it's
like this time there just doesn't seem something seems different
and I can't put my finger on it.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Well, I do think it's the derangement syndrome, I think,
and it's the low effect.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Well, you and I have been seeing this coming for years.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
It's interesting talking about you and I got to Nashville
at the same time, yeah, same year, and didn't know
each other at the time, but we ended up in
the same spot. And it's interesting because there is a
shift from when we started in Nashville to where we
are today. Dramatic shift. Dramatic shift. I mean we get
started on the radio nineteen eighty nine. News actually mattered
(11:23):
in nineteen eighty nine. You could actually take a newspaper
and read it, and honest to goodness, you could get.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Real stories about what was going on.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Now you wake up and it's all about here and
makeup and who's bash and who what.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
It's just as well.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
There are sixty million Catholics that are waiting on their
new direction and leader, and yet you've got people doing
posts about things Francis said on global warming and you
know that kind of thing. And then you know, I
grew up in Chicago and New Orleans, very heavy Catholic areas.
My last name should tell you that I was born
(11:57):
into a Catholic family, even though I'm not athlic today.
Tulsa not so much. But this is the first place
I lived where there is a somewhat anti Catholic sentiment
kind of a thing, and I never experienced that until
I moved here eighteen years ago. But put all that aside.
(12:18):
Just from a news this is just news. The pope
is dead, There's going to be a new pope. The
direction of the church. Will it tends to pendulum? Will
it go back conservative? Will it go even further? Will
there be one of Francis's. I mean, the front runners
are all, you know, Francis underlings, So you might even
get a Francis the second I mean, out of this,
(12:39):
I don't, but nobody's even wanting to cover it other
than Show's body in the casket. It really is different
this time.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Issues of gender, marriage and human life, the preservation of
human life, and abortion. These are issues that are underlying
driving engines in the American political enterprise at every level,
particularly federal offices from Congress on up to the White House,
and even more so now at the state level. If
the next pope that's elected decided that it's time for
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the church to change its position on any of those issues,
that will have substantive, maybe even definitive impact on what
happens in the twenty twenty sixth election.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I mean, if you just.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Want to be purely political, it's the top story in
the world right now in regards to what's happening in politics.
Fox completely blind to it or not caring, or maybe
something even worse.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I don't know. All I know is that when it.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Comes to Fox, there's more and sometimes it seems like
there's more interested in hearing makeup than there is on
what's actually happening in the world.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yeah, you would think after the movie Bombshell they would
have moved away from that, but they don't appear to have.
All Right more with David Snatty coming.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Up, It's Your Morning Show with Michael del Chino.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
But you guys are having a conversation about something, and
I'm like, do we really want to do this on
the air. Okay, So all the memes and all the
jokes are jd Vance. He visits with the Pope, and
then mysteriously the Pope dies hours later. You know everything
that I'm reading. Francis knew he was dying, in fact,
so much so that his nurse, who were his last
words were to his nurse, he asked the nurse for
(14:12):
one more ride, and even he looked at him and said,
you think I can do it? And they went and
the Pope will be and took a little drive. It
was really kind of his way of saying fairwell to
the people on Easter. In other words, I think a
lot of people knew the Pope was going to die.
I think the Pope knew he was going to die.
So converted Catholic potential presidential candidate JD. Vance gets a
(14:35):
visit in just under the wire. Are we missing something
political there?
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Well?
Speaker 4 (14:41):
And according to media reports, that visit was denied, which
would make sense.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
It's holy weak.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
I mean, the Pope's kind of busy right now, and
he hadn't exactly been feeling well. So it's not like
there's a line of politicians waiting to get their tickets punched.
This was a very unusual and particularly cast in this
level of intention.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
The Pope knew his hours were limited.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
And sixty million votes in America with Catholics on the line,
and is this the last wink to basically say we
like this converted Catholic and.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
This is the guy that if I've got one last
word to say, I like this guy. I'm sorry, it's
call me skeptical, whatever you like. But it just looks
a little political to me, or just a clinky dinky.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
All right, when we come back with David Zanati, let's
talk about what the Democrats are doing right now. It
looks like political suicide. The writings on the wall that
AOC is going to be their front runner and the
torch has been passed from Bernie Sanders. How does all
this play out? How much of this really matters and
is on the scoreboard and how the midterms will be shaped?
(15:45):
Is it just too early, very little or a lot
and very telling? When your morning show continues.
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an eye on the content. Our senior contributor, David Zanatti's here,
and I'm Michael del Jornal. Just to wrap things up
on the pope, yesterday we covered Nostra Damas had a
quad train back in fifteen fifty five, and this would
be post what some people attribute to COVID and famines
(16:55):
and hurricanes and all that stuff. That there would be
a black pope and that he would have the support
of a king. Now, if you go into that of
the front runners, Peter Turkson would be the leading candidate
for Nostro Damas. Now, as for Nostr Del jarno I
(17:17):
said it would be Mattea Zupi and that potentially that's
just a continuation of Francis's reign. Could even take the
name Francis the Second. Here's the updated numbers real quickly.
Parallone is still the front runner, although he has fallen
from thirty seven percent to twenty nine percent. Louis Antonio Tago,
the Filipino cardinal, was twenty three percent. He has fallen
(17:40):
into twenty one percent. Zupie is now in third. He
went from ten up to eleven percent. Peter Turkson ticked
up one to eight percent, and Perabista Pizza ball went
from six percent to eight percent. And yes, we were
talking about it off the air, a cardinal from Dallas
by way of Dublin will be the dean of the conclave,
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which will begin in the next week and a half
or so.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Wait a minute, is this like on a sports wagering
site or something, these odds or Vegas is Vegas.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Got odds on this?
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Well, that's normally up to our sports book head, Big John.
But big Big John will get you the latest numbers
on the betting. But d we're getting ours from where
the from polymarket? Polymarket. Yeah, so that's the running odds.
Although you know, for those that have watched the movie Conclave.
It is very interesting how much this is parallel with
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the movie, and that the movie was centered around the
progressive liberal cardinals versus the one loan conservative cardinal. And
one would have to wonder, you know, movement towards youth
and movement back towards tradition or conservativism versus what seems
(18:59):
to be eighty percent of that will be voting that
are progressive.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Along with Francis So and again, Michael, I want to
be careful that I don't think for a second that
the Catholic community votes in any way in a monolithic fashion,
whether they're parish priest or local bishop or the pope
has got one position or the other.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
But to suggest that there isn't the influence of between
fifty two and seventy million people listening to their leadership,
that would be to be missing a significant portion of
the news as it relates to American politics, all right,
and global politics.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
And speaking of American politics, all right, let's talk about
the Democrat Party. One. We saw Robmy Manuel on a
very leftist podcast called I've Had It, and Jennifer Wells
just hammers him. Robby Manuel's trying to pivot back towards
the American people and back towards the center. Most of
the party wants to double down in Trump derangement and
(19:54):
double down on open borders, double down on Garcia is
a victim, and you know all this other stuff. The
direction of the party, it will play out. I think
they're going to pull an AOC Obama. What do I mean?
Barack Obama speaks to the Democratic Convention and knocks everybody
on their feet. They take him from the state Legislature
(20:16):
in Illinois to the United States Senate, and sixty days
later begin his candidacy for President of the United States.
I don't have to tell you. He goes on to
win and serve two terms, the last two term president
for the Democrats. The plan I think is have Crockett
become the new AOC and AOC become the new Bernie Sanders.
(20:36):
Bernie has done all he could to hand that torch
to her. The polling numbers in New York would suggest
Schumer is more than vulnerable. In the latest poll that
we shared, he's had a thirty nine percent favorability forty
nine percent unfavorability. With the Siana College poll, he's underwater
ten percent Contrast that to AOC who is sitting with
(20:59):
a forty seven percent favorability rating a thirty three percent
unfavorability rating. That would tell you the voters in New
York want them to double down left and that she
would be the heir apparent. And among Democrats she has
a sixty four percent favorability rating. History repeating itself. Is
AOC going to take out Schumer and that will catapult
the momentum into her turning around and running for president.
(21:22):
Already among the squad, the socialist Bernie Sanders crowd, she'll
be a front runner like Bernie was in twenty sixteen
and twenty twenty. I mean, is this the direction of
the party? And now they're all in on the tariffs
blowing up in Trump's face, and he's cutting deals that
could be over before the midterms, and there's this movement
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to have the party being taken over by the socialist Democrat.
How much of what's happening today is really on the
scoreboard and going to impact and shape the midterm elections
or is it still way too early and irrelevant.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Well that's kind of a yesterday because you have picked
up a strain of reality here that's really important. We
need to talk about this, and that is what are
the players behind the scenes, the billionaire cartel, that is
the progressive movement, and is the Democrat Party. Who are
they selecting. Are they going to make a commitment? Well,
they have to because it's an open seat presidential election
(22:19):
with a warm up of a really important congressional race
where the advantages tends to go to the party out
of power. So they've got a tremendous window of opportunity here.
And if they choose to elevate AOC with their protection
and their money and the six towers of major news
basically pinging her on the upward dimension at all times, yes,
(22:42):
they could do exactly what you're talking about. And her
advantage is because of her the nature of the way
she conducts herself. She is an intimidator, She is bombastic,
and it's difficult to deal with someone coming from that perspective.
Now that being said, with absolutely no credence for her politics,
for legal perspective, or her historical understandings. There is a
(23:04):
certain romance to the idea that America could elect a
bartender from New York to the presidency of the United
States because after all, we raise our kids saying anybody
can be president.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
So they've got a narrative that will work.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
And because she's a woman, she has a profound advantage.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Wouldn't the party you can't.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Fight fair with a woman running for the president. Wouldn't
You got to.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Be careful, but wouldn't wouldn't they be kind of going
against the tide in that? Look, if you couldn't get
Hillary elected as a woman, if you couldn't get Kamala
Harris elected in a primary or even after you handed
her the nomination, great question. You really think a third woman,
a bartender, AOC radical socialist left. Now I agree that
(23:45):
that portion of the party whose goal is to take
over the party, then get rid of the electoral college,
then dismantle the Republic. She will be the front runner
because they're activists and they will be out there and
they'll be voting. And then you add one other rink
to this, and that is David Hogg Parkland shooting. Not
that he was actually in the school when the shooting
(24:06):
took place, but you know, he becomes a darling of
the Parkland shooting. Now he's raising ny to get rid
of all the old people Schumer would definitely fall under that,
and he is the vice chair of the DNC. So
the DNC is going to try to do what they
did in twenty sixteen, where they gave you Hillary even
though the people wanted Bernie. And then in twenty twenty
they gave you Biden when the people wanted Bernie, and
(24:26):
then they held weekend at Biden until they were ready
to jettison him, and then they just handed all of
his votes to Kamala Harris. All right, well, the problem
this time is the people are going to choose AOC,
but you've got this guy in the middle. You've got
a wolf in the henhouse. So I think all the
(24:47):
presses on to get rid of David Hog and get
rid of him in a hurry because they want to
usher in Wes Moore and Ronnie Manuel. But the problem
is will the Democrat voters be over their Trump derangement
syndrome by then to be reasonable?
Speaker 4 (25:05):
And where will the establishment of the Democrat Party versus
the billionaire cartel that has hollowed out that establishment and
now creates its own power of influence in this Where
will that play happen? The key to remember, though, is
that all of us in this world tend to look
at everything in light of the last two or three battles.
This is a completely different battle. This will be a
(25:28):
reaction to the Trump presidency. It will be an open
seat election, which means at the start all bets are off.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
So if the election.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Is defined upon performance or lack of performance, is in
regards to what happened with Trump. Remember Trump was sailing
in his first administration. COVID completely collapsed the reality and
it turned into a reaction area. This was a reelect situation,
not an open seat. If this is going to be
a referendum on Trump, they're going to start with a
base of seventy million.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Votes right now.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
So this is going to be a very close election
just by the nature of what's going to happen in
that it's an open seat and the billionaires are not
going to sit it out, not for an open seat election.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
All right, So the midterms clearly are going to be
a run against Trump, a run against Musk, which is
to say, Trump and must arrangement syndrome is going to
be a run against Doge, and a run against the
trade wars that Trump is created. He may have the
(26:31):
trade wars resolved by the midterm. Will most people are
behind Doge and behind the president, especially with the border.
So if you go one layer deep beyond derangement, there's
really nothing to run against. Where are they headed with
these midterms and what do they need to happen? Because
(26:51):
I don't see anything other than the leftist movement, which
is this notion that we've got to fight harder, we
got to go left not center. That will be present
in the midterm, that emotion. But I don't know I
can if I can find any issue they can run
on that's really registering right in congressional districts.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
The country is every bit as micro split as it
can be, and that's why you have these fractional majorities
in the House and the Senate. Fractional majorities in the
House and the Senate are not majorities at all. That's
what we're finding out. The Congress is absolutely in park.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Now.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
I know that there are people who are insiders who
are going to be screaming at the radio saying you're
how hard they're working and blah blah blah blah blah. Look,
I can count, I can read a calendar. It's April
twenty third, where is Congress. Where is Congress?
Speaker 2 (27:42):
It's all been Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump Trump.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
The Congress is not supposed to take a pass and
stand in line and wait for the president to do everything.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Where are they The reason.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
That they're not able to move is because their majorities
are fractional. And when this breaks out into an actual
political fight with every seat open, it's going to come
down to who's got the billionaires with the quality candidates
in the local level in the key districts. We're not
even going to see it until sixty days before it
actually happens because it's so divided and nobody's paying attention.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
So right now, the question is who's on the ground
working the hardest.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
And you add to that the low approval rating of
all members of Congress, and he added that hog and
all his money trying to target the elderly ones. And
if these socialist Democrats make a move, and they always
do against establishment Democrats, how that could upset the waters
in some of these close races.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Now, I think you've said one of the things really
really important, Michael Doze, is the best thing that's going
right now in the American system is of government looking
in the mirror that is very powerful, but this morning's
news Musk is already explaining that he's moving out.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Listen. They can't afford to lose momentum.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Doze, Well, he's lost seventy one million dollars or something
in the latest trip seventy one percent. Yes, I'm way
more than seventy one million. All right, David, great, great conversation.
Maybe we can talk again soon. You can catch on
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(29:15):
anytime at the Public Square dot com.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
David, thanks for your time. This is your Morning Show
with Michael del Chuono.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Whitehouse says there's about eighteen trade proposals on paper as
we speak, meetings with thirty four countries, but to jd.
Vance secure the first deal with India.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
Already speaking at an event in Johannpoorter, India, Vance said
President Trump is being criticized we're starting a trade war
to bring jobs back from the past, but that nothing
could be further from the truth.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
He seeks to rebalance global trade so that America, with
friends like India, can build a future worth having for
al of our people.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Together.
Speaker 6 (29:52):
Ranci's visit comes after the US at India with a
twenty six percent reciprocal tariff on its goods, but those
import taxes have been suspended for ninety t leaving a
ten percent baseline tariff.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
I'm Mark Nyheer, Your student loan free ride is officially over.
Speaker 7 (30:05):
The Department announced collections will begin on May fifth, and
borrowers could be referred to debt collectors or have money
deducted from their paychecks. Student loan repayment requirements were paused
in March twenty twenty due to the COVID nineteen pandemic.
The Biden administration opted not to resume collections and attempted
to forgive student loan debt in a program that was
(30:28):
ultimately struck down by the Supreme Court. The Trump administration
has indicated it would offer no such concessions to borrowers.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
I'm Brian Shook.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Well. The artificial dies used in flaming hot Cheetos, among others,
decks as snacks are going away.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
I wonder what color they're really going to be now.
Speaker 8 (30:46):
The FDA announced Tuesday it's phasing out the petroleum based
synthetic dies by the end of the year. Additives like
red dye forty give candy, sports drings, and chips the
right color that attract shoppers. The changes will affect a
grocery cart full of foods from Pepa, General Mills and Kellogg's.
FDA Commissioner Marty McCarey said at a news conference that
American kids have increasingly been living in a toxic soup
(31:08):
of synthetic chemicals for last fifty years. I'm tammy for HEO.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
ESPN announced the death of longtime play by play announcer
one of my all time favorites. Mike Patrick, passed away
at the age of eighty thirty six years calling games
for ESPN eighteen as the play by play guy for
Sunday Night Football. He was simply one of the best mourners.
Sir filing past Pope Francis again lying in state at
the Vatican. National Correspondent Roy o'neils here with all the
(31:34):
details for Saturday's funeral. Good morning, Rory, Yeah, Good morning Michael.
Speaker 9 (31:38):
We know that President Trump will leave Washington for the
Vatican on Friday night and then returns Saturday night, so
it's going to be a very quick trip. But dignitaries
from around the world will be in attendance, including President
Zelinsky from Ukraine, Peter Starmer, the British Prime Minister Prince
William will be making the trip, not the King and Queen.
(31:59):
They had actually just seen the Pope a couple of
weeks ago when they travel to Rome for their twentieth
wedding anniversary. Obviously a long time now between the funeral
rather the events that are unfolding at the Saint Peter's
Basilica today, where the Pope's body is now lying in
state and well wishers are passing by the casket by
(32:19):
the thousands. By the way, would you take a photo
there with your phone? Lots of people are.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Yeah, I you know, no, I think that's disrespectful, but
all right, So walk us through between now in the
funeral we get and then after the funeral, how soon
before the conclave begins, and then we get the interesting
news it'll actually be a cardinal from Dallas, Texas by
way of Dublin, Ireland, who would be the dean of
(32:45):
the college.
Speaker 9 (32:46):
Right, he is the man in charge essentially as things
are as there is only one person sort of filling
in for the Pope in a very limited role, but
making the decisions about how some of these funeral proceedings
will happen in the scheduling of events as well. But
that conclave is expected to start about two weeks after
(33:08):
the funeral. Somewhere in there we're into nine official days
of morning by the Church. Then the conclave will follow,
so by say the second week of May is reasonable
to see things start. Most of the cardinals will remain
in Rome, arriving now ahead of the funeral. There is
a hotel essentially for them in the Vatican, a very
(33:29):
limited I've seen it described as a three star hotel,
but it's where the cardinals will be comfortable. By the way,
Pope Francis lived in that hotel, declining the papal apartment
at the Vatican. This is the same hotel where the
cardinals will live during the.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Conclave, although his doors were sealed as it was in
the movie. And you know, you wonder, like the movie,
if there's going to be and there's time for this
and this isn't it yet, but if the attention will
turn to the progressive versus conservative balance and how the
cardinals vote a lot of similarities whether the movie played
(34:06):
out that is kind of in the background playing out
when we get to the conclave ory, great reporting.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
As always, We're all in this together. This is your
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