NFC South Love and Saints Camp with Cam Jordan, Chris Olave, Juwan Johnson and Justin Reid

Gregg Rosenthal and Jourdan Rodrigue are live from Saints training camp! The duo starts the show with a bit of news talking about the injury to Rashawn Slater and what it means for the Chargers (01:30). After the news, Gregg and Jourdan tell you why they love the NFC South (07:50). Then, Gregg is joined by Saints players including Cam Jordan (21:20), Justin Reid (31:10), Juwan Johnson (36:50) and Chris Olave (43:24). 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome to NFL Daily, where cash Money Records is still
and always in style. I'm Greg Rosenthal. I am here
at the University of California, Irvine with my friend Jordan
Rodrieg to watch a Saints practice, to talk about the
NFC South, and to just bathe in the New Orleans vibes.

(00:27):
Even though we're in southern California.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
I know it could not be a more perfect day.
You've already almost hit me with your hand twice. Gorgeous
weather out here. Ready to watch some football, Ready to
do some football.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
I don't know why cash money popped in my head
right there, but I was in college during the rise
of juvenile like literally when five hundred degrees came out
and ha, and it was like being in Liverpool when
the Beatles came out.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
In case you did not know, because he hasn't said
it sixteen thousand times, Greg went to Tulane for college.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Let's talk news. Unfortunate, So the setup for this show
is gonna be fun. We're gonna talk a little bit
of news. I wasn't going to, but unfortunately we have to.
Then we're gonna talk about why I love the NFC
South more than you, Why.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
No, no, why I, okay love the NFC South more
than you.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Okay, well just speak on that maybe just why it's
disrespected and it deserves it.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Why I love it more than Greg.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
And then we're gonna have a number of interviews with
some fun Saints players, Chris Olave, Cam Jordan's coming on,
Justin Reid, and Juwan Johnson. So looking forward to all those,
But unfortunately we got to start with the Los Angeles Chargers,
who found out on Thursday that Rashaun Slater, their great
left tackle who just signed a market setting contract just

(01:45):
a couple of weeks ago, is lost for the season
with a torn patel attendant and this whole idea this
off season that they were going to do a better
job protecting Justin Herbert. Unfortunately, you know, goes down at
training camp practice with their very best player, Rashaan Slater,
basically the item of news that you just don't want

(02:07):
to hear this time of year.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
It's so tough because not only I was down there
a few days ago at Chargers camp, and the cohesiveness
of the group, the way that they all were communicating,
the size of the group. I mean, this is a
team that looks as badass as it expects to be
this year, and to lose him, that the cornerstone of

(02:30):
your offensive line, the person who is so well loved
by teammates on both sides of the ball, by his quarterback,
it's heartbreaking.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
You hate this, like the number one thing you hate
to see this time of year.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
I've tried not to even say it on the show,
but it's been in my mind the last two weeks
that it's been a quiet camp for players suffering serious injuries,
especially you know, big time players like Rashan Slater. So
what are the Chargers do here? You know, they said
what they felt about him and where he is in
the nflsystem with a contract that they gave him. He's

(03:01):
in the top five left tackles in the entire league.
They have Joe alt their first round pick from a
year ago when Slater was out of practice. Earlier in camp,
Joe allt was flipping to the left side on ESPN
dot Com. You know, their beat reporter does believe that
that's the move that they will make going into the season.
Joe all goes to the left side. Trey Pipkins, who's

(03:23):
played a lot for the Chargers over the years now
is a swing tackle is likely to be the right tackle.
And then I look at the interior line where this
hole Zion Johnson experiment at center is over. He didn't
get that job. He's at guard and I just she is.
So that's different. But obviously without Slater, it just feels.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
Like it's deflating Greg and we're just back to where it.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Hasn't this happened, Like I feel like something like this
happens every Chargers off season before it even starts to
get you in this mood and especially upfront, and now
just feels like, oh, we're just running it back.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
It might be even worse, and I will say I'm
not ready to go there yet. I want to say,
I mean, this is obviously horrible news. I hate this
for the Chargers.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
I hate this for their fans. I hate this for
Herbert and for Harbaugh.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
The thing is, though, is that Jim Harbaugh took over
this job and the expectation and the external narrative, whether
he likes it or not, is that he is a
fixer of culture, a fixer of coaching, as somebody who's
going to maximize every player on the roster. He's said
as much or indicated as much he's going to maximize
this passing game, this run game. Get physical, these big,

(04:29):
mean and tough and overwhelm opponents.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Okay, So, great coaching is what.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
You do and how you develop talent in the instance
of the quote unquote Chargers curse that we kind of
see every year, and great coaching is making the most
of what you have four or five weeks left till
the regular season, try to figure out what you do next.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
So, okay, Jim Harbaugh, you're up. How do you coach
out of this?

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Right? And they do have Jamari Sawyer, who played pretty
well in place of race On Slater a couple of
years ago when he was hurt, and he's still on
the roster, so they do have some options. When I
say it's just more of the same, I think I'm
voicing some of the Chargers fans frustration that after their
disaster of a playoff appearance where they blamed everything on

(05:10):
the interior offensive line, they are kind of running back
those same guys at center and left guard. And now,
obviously you couldn't have prevented this, but it's a lot
of the same guys. It's Pipkins back in the mix.
Maybe Sawyer and you're just worried. You want the best
for Justin Herbert. You don't want to go into another
year of coming up with excuses for him. So that's
the Chargers one thing I know that Herbert's happy about.

(05:31):
We never really hit on this on the show. The
Keenan Allen move became officials since we last talk. He's
getting eight million dollars, which is not nice or a
guy that is signing this time of year. Maybe he's
a little deplicative of lad McConkie. They say like they
can both play on the outside. I don't think you
really want Keenan Allen taking snaps on the outside over
KeAndre Lambert Smith, who he liked. But it's one more weapon.

(05:52):
At least that's there. It's fun.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
I will plug the Great Daniel Jeremiah and the Great
show forties and free Agents. The other day he was
bringing up the talk of these veteran receivers who will
still dig out in the trenches, who will still grind
to get that blocking surface, just different layers to it.
How maybe you can pull it extra tight end up
the field to get these guys involved in that structure.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
I mean, DJ, he doesn't say things unless he knows things.
That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
Okay, so you got a little Keenan Allen in a
role like that where he's almost like another tight end
on the field.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
And you know what, when DJ speaks, I listen.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
I kind of tune you out on those episodes, but
when he speaks, I listen.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
We will. We'll have the AFC West coming up soon
in your feed, so check it out because he's got
a great bit related to Gino Smith. All right, I'll
just fly through the rest of the news, then we'll
get to our NFC South Big conversation. Matthew Stafford is
expected to be back at practice next week, so my
panic about Matthew Stafford is lessened just a little bit,

(06:54):
although our insider Ian Rappaport reported it he got an
epidural on his back recently, which not great, and he
probably won't be part of the joint practices, said Sean
McVay next week either, but he will be on the field,
so that's good. Michael Parsons was not on the field
on Thursday, neither was Jerry Jones, so some sort of
change happened there that was interesting. Cam Hayward, we learned

(07:16):
of the Steelers, has not been practicing fully a quiet
holding there because he wants a contract adjustment. Ennis Rerakestraw
of the Lions was put on injured reserve, relatively high
draft pick for them, but hasn't really played much. But
when a guy goes on injured reserve that was going
to make the team, I obviously want to mention it
on the show. And then friend of the show, who

(07:37):
was so nice to my son at the Super Bowl,
Will Hernandez is back in the NFL on the Arizona card.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
And the mustache is mustaching.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
I will send out the picture which is framed in
Walker's room because it's just such a nice picture of
the two of them. All right, let's talk about the NFC.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
South, which I love more than you.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
We're here and you know, we just had Tupac in
the background. I don't know how loud this is going
to be for the audience, but it's definitely loud here.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
I think it adds a little something something to our broadcast.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
And obviously two box not you know, like a Southern rapper.
But somehow it just feels like the energy is right
here behind us for a division that I love with
all my heart. But I love it so many different reasons.
You do too, I love it more. I guess I'll
get started to give myself an advantage of it. We'll
just go back and forth.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
Why we love it, Why wouldn't you get an advantage?

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Why it deserves consideration? I think like the ultimate reason
is it's just a little grimier than the rest of
the divisions. These teams are kind of underdogs, maybe even
in their own cities. Sometimes not in New Orleans, but
there's LSU there in Baton Rouge, like they're in southern
markets where college football is king. But I do love

(08:47):
that Regionally, the division is so close to each other,
and I think because of that and the college football
fandom that the rivalry, especially Falcon Saints, but I think
it's all over. The division is more real and more
meaningful between the fans than any other. And there's not
a lot of Super Bowls to go around in this division.
The Falcons, I don't need to tell you about their heartbreak.

(09:08):
The Panthers, since they've come along, have been good but
haven't gotten over the hump. The Saints got their one
that the Bucks have had a couple, but it's like
it's an underdog mentality and they hate each other. And
that's why I've always loved the divisional matchups and I
think I think it's very changious.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Well, first of all, I will point out that you
sort of gave Patrick Claybah a pity pick when you
were talking on our NFC episode the other week about
picking which you know division you wanted to do, and
you were shocked.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
And I found it multitude.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
You have so much nuance to you, Greg, So I
will say I really do love the NFC South, unlike
people who are sort of faking their passion for it.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
I love how.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Chaotic it can get. The Bucks are again yet again
the favorite here. But anything could happen, because anything often
does happen. It's a good old fashioned slat fight half
the time between these teams, and they get so intense
and so testy with each other, and the just the
the unpredictable nature of how these NFC South intra division

(10:10):
games can go is just fascinating to me.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
Right the Bucks, there's a lot of talk about, Wow,
the Bucks. I think they're underrated. We've talked them up,
but it's like, hey, they could win their fifth straight
right right, NFC South divisional title, which which is amazing.
But let's also calm down a little bit, Like it's
like last year they're sneaking in off a tiebreaker one
of the years they were eight and nine. This is
not yeah, this is not some dominant Peyton Manning and

(10:33):
the Cults in the middle of the ots just beating
up on the rest of the division. It is very
even usually in the end.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
And what I love about the NFC South more than
you is that we're gonna get points. And that's the
ultimate that's gonna be the ultimate evening of all of
these groups, is that every single one of these teams
can score points. I'm looking through these different teams and
sort of where they've improved and or where they're staying
highly productive. Bryce Young and the Panthers turned it around

(11:03):
last season in a big way, taking the Eagles down
to the wire like that was one of the more
impressive sort of underdog David and Goliath moments of last season.
Atlanta's defense, obviously is still a huge question mark, but
their offense under year two of Zach Robinson as offensive
coordinator with Mike Pennix, with this cast that they have
along in their skill positions.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
Is literally, quite literally built to score.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
You know, the Saints if whoever the quarterback is can
get the ball to the playmakers, and they do have
playmakers or seed sheet, Chris Olave, Alvin Kamara, some exciting
young guys we're going to talk about who are up
and coming today as well. They should be able to
put up points. And the Bucks are one of my
favorite teams in the NFL, which is another reason why
I love the NFC South because the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
are in the NFC South. But also they are quite

(11:48):
literally built to score, quite literally built to score, and
they've got depth at receiver unlike we've seen in a
long time in the league.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Right, I watched quarterback and you almost forget those high
scoring Falcons Bucks. Obviously it's that Thursday night game was
so memorable, but Kirk Cousin's going like over five hundred
yards and absolutely lighting up that Bucks defense which has
been up and down, more down than up lately. And
that's why one of my reasons why I love this
division this year is Bowls of Sons too, so nice

(12:15):
if we have the IP years back. Todd Bowles comes
from the Jets was a tough time there. Comes to
the Bucks, he has the Bowls of Sons. It results
eventually in a Super Bowl title. He stayed on at
that point. He's the coordinator. Now he's the head coach.
The reputation's at a little bit of a lull. I
think we get the Bolls of Sons two this year.

(12:38):
He's got a fun group in the back end, a
couple young players, rookies, Jacob Parrish who they're really happy about,
Benjamin Morrison who they drafted early. Tike Smith is a
second year nickelback. You add Antoine Winfield to that. Jamal
Dean's been there for a while. Like we'll see. They
have questions certainly at linebacker, they add Hassan Reddick. But
I do think we get a little Bulls of Sons too.

(12:58):
And I like a fiery Todd Bowles. I like a
fiery Bucks team. Let's actually listen to Baker Mayfield talking
about a little training camp fight.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
It's gonna happen, yeah, and our group's not going to
back down. You guys shoving people late in the back,
We're not going to back down. We're not going to
start it because we're not stupid but we'll finish it
for you as a quarterback.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
To stay out of that.

Speaker 5 (13:24):
I mean, Trista's coming out there.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
She still he needs to stay his ass on the
sideline with those crutches. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
I was in the middle of it.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
It's fun.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Oh my gosh, Baker Mayfield. By the way, Baker Mayfield,
you will go start it. So don't try to act like, oh, well,
we won't start fights. Baker will absolutely start his fair
share of fights. You know, I kind of was able
to go around the league talking to different coaches and
executives last year, Greg As you know, you were such
a champion of that, But then this year too, kind

(13:53):
of hearing the same types of things. When you ask,
especially offensive coaches about Todd Bowles, I do not care
that he's like sort of from a different generation of coaches.
I do not care that he runs things that we've
seen him run for a long time. Every offensive coach
in the league will tell you it is so exhausting
going against that man for an entire game. You can

(14:14):
game plan for it, it's still it does not matter
how prepared you are and how much you've seen of
his tape. It is absolutely mentally and physically exhausting to
have to endure an entire game against that man, right, I.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Like I might have like a little tongue in cheek
when I talk about the bulls and signs too, But
the reason I was so excited about is he's just
a fun defensive coach to watch, and that can be
a weakness of his almost like Greg Williams back with
the Saints in the days, even if he doesn't quite
have the horses, he's just gotta blitz like absolute crazy,
Like that is his aggressive mindset no matter what. And
I do think he has more of the horses this year.

(14:50):
You mentioned Pennix, and that's another one of the reasons
why I do love the NFC South more than you.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
Oh me too, I more than you.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
It's impossible you just said me too more.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
Than lefty quarter. I'm left handed. I have to love
it more than you. It's kind of trying to convince
you of Mike Pennox.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
For kind of the poor team's packers. We went from
Michael Vick straight to Matt Ryan. Now let's forget the
Desmond Ritter Kirk Cousins season's ever happened, but right to uh,
Michael Pennox, and to me, he is kind of similar
to Jordan Love in a lot of ways in that
he's going to be very aggressive deep down the field.

(15:24):
In that the sample size was so small that I
don't want to draw too much from it, and there
could be major ups, major downs. But I do think
the connection between Vic to Ryan to Pennox is something
that's going to last this franchise, and it's cool to
be there for the first year of what I think
is going to be kind of the Michael Pennox era.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
I mean, I love it.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
I also don't want to make too much over some
of the reported inaccuracy that Mike Pennix is having some
of the frustration that he's having a little bit at
trading camp, because, according to my colleague Josh Kendall, at
the Athletic they have Zach Robinson has intentionally structured all
eleven on eleven periods, no seven on sevens for Mike Penick,
so none of that sort of flag football get it
to the skill players types of guys. He's also designed

(16:07):
the practice structure so that options that Mike Penix would
usually take earlier in his reads are not there for him,
so they're almost forcing him to go into an uncomfortable
zone to get more reps in the shorter and intermedia
areas of the field, because we know he loves to
throw the ball down the field. I really love that
they're stress testing him in a way that makes sense,
that is functional, that works with his development. And I

(16:30):
really love hearing Leonard Floyd, who is one of my
all time favorite players to cover, say that Penix is
starting to come out of a shell, like he seems quiet,
but he will trash talk, especially if he pops you
on a throw.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
He will absolutely let you have it. And I love
that Leonard Floyd's the one sort of calling him out on.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
That he's a guy that's gonna go for big time throw.
So just as an entertainment value, I think these games
between the teams in this division are going to be
pretty box office this year, and it's partly because Bryce
Young has a lot of that in him too.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
The best story last year was his comeback, his confidence
come back.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
And I loved it as as like a narrative arc
and we're here, we'll hear from Dave Canalis on that
in a second of like how that happened? But the
reason I'm more excited about him because it's not just
that he's representing smaller gentlemen, because in reality, sure King
like compared to a normal guy, he's just he's average.
Like I'm not gonna say that he's like a small guy.

(17:24):
He's like five to ten. He's compared to NFL players,
he's small. But the reason I love watching him plays,
I don't think people realize watching him how many difficult,
tight window, beautiful throws he goes for. And that's where
he actually reminds me a little of some of my
favorite quarterbacks. The anticipation that he can throw those outbreaking
routes like a Gino Smith, like a Philip Rivers. That's

(17:46):
lofty company. But the types of throws that he makes
are just beautiful football throws. And that's one of the
things I love about Bracio.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
And I think first of all, I like how they've
built their receiver's room. I think that group will still
have a ways to go and proving that they can
kind of all click together and developed different layers in
the passing game, but I like how they've built it
out over the last couple of years. One of the
things that I think doesn't get talked about enough, and
certainly didn't last year, and definitely didn't especially when they
were struggling at left tackle a couple of years ago

(18:14):
when Bryce first came out. This offensive line has come together.
It is a top third offensive line in the NFL.
It played like it last year, and they have things
that they need to fix in the run game, but
in terms of protecting and understanding where Bryce Young is
and having some of the stalwart players Austin Corbett, Taylor Morton,
Taylor Moton on the right side, they are a group

(18:37):
that is now used to playing together more. Ikya Kanwu
is gaining confidence. That's all you're hearing from last year,
how he finished last year and then coming into this
season and if they can finally look like a veteran
group together. For Bryce Young, I think that goes miles
for him this year.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
And the camp reports for Tetro McMillan T mac, I
don't know there was a t mac. Kyle pointed that out,
so I kind of like to say in the full name,
that's what his mom wanted. Anyways, Teto McMillan, he's getting
the volume of a number one receiver and looks like
a number one receiver. Even though there's like some drops
to me in a perfect world, he has a little
to to him where you can live with a few
drops when you're that physically talented. I mentioned Canalis talking

(19:17):
about Bryce Young and the maturation that he had. Remember,
of course, Andy Dalton was starting games for the Panthers
last year.

Speaker 6 (19:24):
I would say the biggest thing is that he continued
to lead throughout that process. I think that he earned
a lot of respect from his teammates. From me that
regardless of the situation. He didn't agree with me on
the decision not to play him, but he worked and

(19:45):
he kept leading, and he was showing me, this is
my team, and he was showing his teammates you're my guys.
And he would stay in front and he would touch
them and talk to them and then came back in
and then we started to grow together, and then building
into that into the off season, the leadership continued.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Got a little something to him.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
I had I had DJ's voice in my head. I
guess it's getting back to work with him. When you
said that they were a top third offensive.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
Line, Oh yeah, you I hedged. I'm learning so much.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
He got on me for building up Devanta Adam and
then saying top fifteen receiver, which just isn't that dramatic?
I mean top third thirty two divided by three, that's
like eleven or point three. I go top ten.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
Coming from coming from where the Panthers were a couple
of years ago, I think they would take it in.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
A hard just giving you a note, I think just
go top ten at that point, that's are you? Are
you also ten point six six six six?

Speaker 3 (20:42):
So this is this is how negative cycles perpetuate.

Speaker 7 (20:45):
Greg.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
You were hurt, now you hurt me, hurt people, hurt people.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
I get it sometimes like like a little bit of
hurt is healthy. Uh, think about that.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
That's the NFC South in a nutshell, babe.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
We will take a quick break. We are going to
be back on the other end, uh with the New
Orleans Saints. That's gonna be me with a rapid fire
bunch of interviews. Excited about that, and then Jordan is
gonna join me on the back end of the ship.

(21:22):
All Right, we are here with the outstanding defensive end
of the New Orleans Saints. Cam Jordan, a man who
is also a podcast host Off the Edge with NFL
Media CAM, like where your feelings hurt? It all that
the podcast group didn't go along in the ESPN package.

Speaker 8 (21:42):
Yeah, I thought I was being absorbed as well.

Speaker 5 (21:43):
You know, my podcast sponsored by you know, n A
Fund Network and iHeartRadio, And I guess it's still sponsored
by n Fun Network and iHeart Radio.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
I don't it is. I mean, it's in the it's
in the press release and it says the NFL still
owns a bout. I think that's a good thing. I
think they think we're doing such a good job CAM,
they want to keep it going into the future. How
how has it been, by the way, being like a podcast, oh, slash.

Speaker 5 (22:07):
Player, a podcast life has been wonderful the first couple
of years when it was me and Mark and there
was a tandem. You gotta love a good duo, you know.
Then when you go solo, it's not as fun when
you're talking to yourself because now you're truly talking to yourself,
like you know, like at least if you live stream something,
you gotta chat you're talking to you got to you
got your you know, you gotta you got Batman, you

(22:30):
got guess, Yeah, there's Batman and Robin, but you know,
Batman Robin used to work together, right, you know, Batman Nightwing.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
I feel that I just the whole thing is on
your shoulder. If it doesn't go well, guess whose fault
it is. You can't really blame anyone.

Speaker 8 (22:44):
You can't blame anybody about yourself. No, you blame me, producers.
You fed me the wrong information. He was a seven
time prolo Bowler're not eight time pro bowler. Gosh darn it, Batman.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
No, we got we got the best in the business
helping you, including Chris pa Bonus sometimes on the off
the edge team. Ah, you guys look great out there today.
It was the places defense. I know, I know it
wasn't like a heavy day of practice, but that looked
like a defense.

Speaker 5 (23:05):
That's that was like the five team periods. I know, Okay,
I appreciate it. You know, you gotta after me. I
guess there's another guy who's in the podcast space as well.
We're all just podcast family. Jew Shan Shan Jew.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
Like, tell me about how this defense feels different maybe
than last year, not like comparing. It's just like a
lot of different players, not in terms of the scheme
and everything, but it's a lot of new players.

Speaker 8 (23:34):
On this there's there's a lot of a lot. You know,
you bring in Justin Reid.

Speaker 5 (23:37):
Uh, you got Julian Blackman, that complete new backfield in
the safety area. Right, you have the surgeons of koul
A mckinstreet heading to a second year. Looks like he's
dialed in. Alante Taylor heading into what here four now
love it Ran Jack Yeah, man and a vocal leader.
You can feel it on the field. Uh, Justin Justin
Reid came in with the commanding presence. Of course, you

(23:59):
got Pete Warren or Tomorrow Davies. I feel like Jalen
Ford as well as DeMarco Jackson is having having great camps. Uh,
we bring in you know now now our D tackles.
I think you can label them defensive ends or something
like that. What if you want to label just know.

Speaker 8 (24:13):
R D line is is hulked up.

Speaker 5 (24:16):
You know, guys, guys are getting bigger, stronger.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
I mean you're a big, big group. Yeah, Brandon Staley
likes those big guys up front.

Speaker 5 (24:25):
No doubt got it. Type edge edges six four and above.
You know Carl Grandison's sixty five, Chase Young sixt' five.
Cam Jordan is a short one of the bunch six
four gosh darn it.

Speaker 9 (24:36):
Bat Man.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Has them like five five five six. Although I felt
I felt better watching your Blake group, he was like
he was closer than myself.

Speaker 8 (24:49):
He gives everybody hope. He's like, yo, that's your that's
a football. You know, he's a kicker. There's a difference,
you know, Like.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
I can tell my son, though it's not his fault,
the genetics, I can tell my son like che Yeah.

Speaker 8 (25:01):
Absolutely So.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
You've been in New Orleans forever.

Speaker 7 (25:04):
I have.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Been a short time resident of New Orleans. I went
to college at Tulane and I have a.

Speaker 8 (25:11):
Lot of love good old Tulane.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Yeah. For the city. How has living in New Orleans
this long changed you?

Speaker 8 (25:18):
Man? All my kids is from there.

Speaker 5 (25:20):
Remember wipe down a good old Magnoli Yeah, the five
before special Man. Everything that I've wanted to accomplish happen there.
You know, while this dreams have been accomplished there, I've
got one dream left, and that has to win a
Super Bowl. Because other than that, if I've done it all,
I've done, done, done at all. It's been a blessing.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
Don't you feel like New Orleans is just a little different.
So I think for people that haven't spent that time
in New Orleans, what do you think is different about
playing there as a professional athlete living there than then
in different places.

Speaker 5 (25:50):
The fans live, breathe, eat football. They made no gap assignments.
Like when you think about you, we come from the
West Coast, you go to the South. We like football
on the West Coast, you know, we like we we
appreciate athletics.

Speaker 8 (26:04):
It's an event to go to.

Speaker 5 (26:06):
No, no, no, in the South, we are they're looking
forward to Sunday, Like the only reason they're happy about
Fridays is because Sunday is coming faster, you know, like
it's who we play. They got their scheduled down, they've
got the jerseys that they're gonna wear two of the games.
They've got they've got their rituals of like what chips
they eat before each drive. There is there is a
tradition in New Orleans and it's nothing but the Saints.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
And when you're you know, playing against this offense then
and today, for sure, it was a good day for
the defense.

Speaker 8 (26:35):
And that's what it was a good day for the defense.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
In my mind, right, is there part of you that's
almost like, all right, we gotta we got to bring
this offense along too. We gotta bring these young quarterbacks
along as a as a leader.

Speaker 8 (26:44):
This through the fire, Through the fire.

Speaker 5 (26:46):
You know your your sharpest, your sharpest metals are are
repeatedly made from the fire. You forge it in the fire.
You know you you remelt, and you do it again.
There's a technique to that. I forget what it's called.
But we're to meddle here that eventually this is gonna
sharpen up to where we're gonna be quite a fine
blade against other people.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
You're you're asking the wrong guy. Although I did watch
the reality show where they do the where they're cooking
with the fire and the art, I'm totally forget where
they're bending the glass like glass blowing. Those are some
real artists, if you say so, that's some real people.

Speaker 8 (27:20):
Yeah, I am not. I'm not one of the martisans.
I do not know.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
I just I just thought you might. You might know
that a renaissance man. All right, wrapping up, do you
are you paying attention to your numbers? I thinking about
that partly because Canton just happened, and I was thinking, okay,
you know, someday at some point they'll be talking about
your numbers, and they'll be talking about the different numbers
do you pay attention to, like your sack totals and
all that different sort of stuff.

Speaker 5 (27:42):
Of course, in the off season, I've always said off
season was a time to appreciate accolades, and then season
is it time to appreciate getting after the quarterback.

Speaker 8 (27:49):
I'm right on the cuffs. But you know, I've seen
I've seen weaker, weaker Hall of Fame classes.

Speaker 5 (27:55):
I'm I'm on the I'm on the I'm trying to
be on the fence about like, hey, congratulations, everybody gets in,
but I'm.

Speaker 8 (28:02):
Leaning on the All right, let's make it somewhere of
a standard.

Speaker 5 (28:05):
If you're not like, for for me, linebackers, if you
don't have total tackles, like I'm like, hey, you know,
like he has to be greatness by longevity, not greatness
by splash of.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
It depends how splashy that splashes, because like Sterling Sterling Sharp,
for instance, like was so amazing.

Speaker 5 (28:22):
To guys that the guys that in my in my mind,
you got a minimum nine or ten year threshold. If
you didn't make the mark, I'm not gonna lie to you,
that's just how I feel. But at the same time,
I'm not here to say that he's not worthy. In
my mind, I've always looked at the guys, the Chris Doleman's,
the John Randalls. I've looked at guys who played fourteenth
Michael Strahans, Julius Peppers, Bruce Smith's, Reggie White's guys played ten, twelve, fourteen,

(28:46):
fifteen years, and they were great for not only five
or six or seven or eight or nine, ten years
of greatness. I love that you've got You've got a
standard like six, seven, eight, nine Pro Bowls, not you know, like.

Speaker 8 (28:57):
I don't want to hear. Oh, he had three years.

Speaker 5 (29:00):
Where he was untouchable, all right, what was the other
three year he was if he hadn't been hurt and
he didn't have and he didn't have any.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
Man Sterling Sharp taken him. His teak is so amazing
that if you're that dominant, then you get a little
extra at it. I hear you that that.

Speaker 5 (29:16):
You got there was there was a there's a certain
outside linebacker edge type that may have gotten in some
years back that I looked at and I said it, well,
I guess I'm already worthy. Well, if you don't, if
you don't enter as a d line, if you're if
you're as an edge guy, if you don't touch one
hundred sacks, now's the anterior You dropped that number by
at least thirty.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
People out there can do the research and findc who
that is. But yeah, if I were you, I would
look at that and he's really good. That's only that's
only gonna help me in the long run. Do you
pay attention note to your podcast numbers?

Speaker 5 (29:45):
That's the absolutely I love my podcast numbers. I know
all of them. No, I love I love the idea
that I get to talk to my friends online. I
get to share these these experiences, uh with the world.
And in New Orleans, kids can listen to my podcast
and I have to worry about what's going on.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
You know.

Speaker 5 (30:03):
They're like man like I get reprimanded sometimes because it
feels like New Orleans is such a familiar place, like
cam My son Will I heard you say, I said, oh,
you know what that is?

Speaker 8 (30:12):
That is my fault.

Speaker 5 (30:14):
I do try and do better, you know, and I
want to, you know, I want to be somebody that
everybody can look up to. But I do have a
good time on a podcast where you get to, you know,
let down the hair.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
Well, he's gotta be joining us someday, whether it's NFL media,
whether it's ESPN, no doubt, I'm gonna where it's gonna be.
I appreciate you.

Speaker 5 (30:31):
Yeah, absolutely, it was sterling. Maybe it does if it applies.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
I'm not trying to get you in trouble.

Speaker 5 (30:40):
Shannon's gonna call me like you know, you're talking about
my big No, we're not talking about your big brother.
He's amazing. But if he's in, I think my dad
might be in. I'm gonna start rallying Steve Jordan for
the Hall of Fame. Top fifty Minnesota Viking Ring of
Honor electee time to be in.

Speaker 8 (30:56):
The Hall of great and then we'll have a Hall
of Fame. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
You never know. Sometimes you wait like twenty five thirty
years and then it happens.

Speaker 8 (31:02):
I don't like that, you know what. Either way, I'm
before I stick the foot of my mouth that.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
You've been a blessed freciate. We are here with Saints'
Safety justin Reid. Great to meet, yeah, great to talk
to you. You're saying like you felt like you barely
even practiced today.

Speaker 9 (31:17):
Yeah, it felt like we only warmed up and it's
already over.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
Well, it hasn't been like A described this training camp
to me. Now you're out in California, a little different
to Louisiana, But what was it like back there?

Speaker 9 (31:27):
Yeah, in Louisiana was like, honestly, it's about just building
the culture. It was about building a dog mentality because
when you getting heat in decks one fifteen day after day,
and you know what you're gonna get when you walk
out there like you're you're sweating. We did walk throughs
and your shirts drenched by the end of a walkthrough.
So practice was just about making sure one you prepare
the right way hydration wix. If you're not hydrated, you
don't stand a chance. And then just having that dog mentality,

(31:50):
being a physical team building camaraderie because we have a
ton of new faces on this team. I think like
two thirds of the roster is new and it's like
continue to build.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
And you're one of them. And normally I would think,
you know you're coming in here at your eight right
for you, you know, you've been in the league, you've
seen some things, and you becoming you come over here,
you'd be like the veteran leader guy on this team.
But Tomorrio Davis has been on in the league for
fourteen years. Cam Jordan's been on this team for fifteen
straight years. So what is it like joining a defense

(32:18):
like that with that kind of leadership. What's the mix
been like?

Speaker 9 (32:21):
I mean it's been huge. I mean we are not
short of experience by any means, especially on the defensive
side of the ball. And it's been cool that, you know,
we have so much experience that we can bring to
conversations talking about ball, what we want to do here,
what we want to do there, no one problem plays
that we've had from different systems that we played in
the past, and being able to talk it out before

(32:42):
we even get it, you know. So I think that's
really accelerated us gelling together as a defense.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Are you the one that's making a lot of the
communication and the calls? I know what, it's a new
defense with Brandon Staley. Does he give you that freedom
from your position to change things up from the field?

Speaker 8 (32:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (32:58):
So yeah, the back end we were responsible for the
back seven coverage wise, and the linebackers are responsible for
the front and what they want to do pass rush
rising with the run defense and everything like that. So
Double D and Pete they control the front seven, and
me and Julian and Jay Howe we control the back seven.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
And yeah, Julian Blackman you're referring to who also just
arrived here. And that's kind of an idea of like
what a new team this is. And yet watching you
out there, it felt like the defense, there's a lot
of energy, there's a lot of cohesion right now, there's
a lot of trash talking. Yeah, from to Mario, he
said he wanted us to write down that you guys
didn't let them in the paint all day.

Speaker 9 (33:39):
Yeah, yeah, that is a fact, you know. And it's
really the way that Killen's built this group. He's been
really intentional about doing team bonding events and building chemistry
and making this space where guys are close enough to
challenge each other and talk trash to each other, you
know what I mean, and try and you know, bring
the breast out of each other. So been a ton

(34:00):
of fun, and we don't take it easy on each other.
We're out here to compete, we're not out here on vacation,
and it's just about continuing to sharpen that uh sharpen
that steal. So get ready to go on the field.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
What's something you can take from your your experience playing
winning those Super Bowls, playing in the Super Bowls for
the Chiefs.

Speaker 9 (34:17):
Number one thing is that it takes everybody, Like I
believe that wholeheartedly. It isn't just your your front line
first eleven guys to step on the field. At some
point in the season, You're gonna need somebody to step
up and they're gonna need to make a play that's
gonna win or lose you the game. You know what
I mean. You want every man to be prepared for that.
So over communication is never a bad thing. So over
communicate everything. Be loud, be assertive, even if you're wrong.

(34:39):
If you're loud and assertive and everyone's doing the same thing.

Speaker 8 (34:42):
You know you're going to be all right.

Speaker 9 (34:43):
But you just get rid of those busted plays and
you'll be able to play.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
Go.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
You gotta be right, though. You can't be assertive and wrong, right.

Speaker 9 (34:49):
I mean, being assertive, being assertive and wrong is one
thousand percent better than being quiet and not saying anything
at all.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Interesting. Yeah, okay, I love hearing that. I'm curious kind
of what a Brandon Staley defense is, Like, it's obviously
new for you here, but kind of what would you
say that the trademarks of what you guys are trying
to get accomplished.

Speaker 9 (35:08):
Oh, he wants to want to play fast. He doesn't
want any thinking, no thinking. He wants everyone to play fast.
He wants it to be physical. He loves loading the
box with the big guys up front. Played a lot
of five down sometimes six down coverages, and those edge
players are just you know, out there to wreck havoc and.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
You got a lot of them. I was thinking, you know,
you're a Louisiana guy, it just seems like it's a thing.
Maybe I'm wrong, Honey Badger before you, but I feel
like a lot of Louisiana guys end up back on
the Saints. What is it? Yeah? What is it with
Louisiana with New Orleans that that kind of made you
want to come home?

Speaker 9 (35:41):
I mean football, football is everyone from Louisiana. Those football
is like close to religion down there. You know, everyone
is going to know everyone's name that's on the field.
And you know what's crazy is when you get drafted
and you go through the process in my seven years,
Like it's not a thought that crosses your mind until
the opportunity presents itself. And it's like you start thinking back,
like when you know you're you're watching that two thousand

(36:02):
and nine Super Bowl and it's like what that did
for the entire state. And you know, I have friends
back home that dedicated the entire enshrinements, like a whole
room to that moment. You know, And then you know,
you get the opportunity to do and you think about
those moments and it's just such a cool opportunity.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
You must have been at the age where you were
enjoying that. Where did you watch that Super Bowl at home?

Speaker 8 (36:21):
Probably at my uncle Kevin's house.

Speaker 9 (36:23):
Well, we have a family get together as a sixty
plus people. Yeah, and all of them know ball. My
mom is probably the biggest football fan in the family.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
Okay, Yeah, that's some Louisiana stuff that some New Orleans
stuff and a defense led Saints team that's kind of
turning it back to the old Saints back back when
I was younger. Justin read appreciate having y'all absolutely all
right here with the veteran tight end of the New
Orleans Saints, Juan Johnson, Are you a veteran? I feel like,
get that next contract, you are a veteran.

Speaker 7 (36:55):
I was just about to say, you just called me
a veteran. Edge made me feel so weird.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
But I feel like the difference between a veteran and that,
and you can tell me if not is when you
get that nice second contract. That's the moment.

Speaker 7 (37:09):
Uh yeah, you could say that. I mean, I feel
like it's everybody's opinion. I feel he's also jacting what
a veteran is. I feel like, after like you've been
through a couple of coaches, it could be that year five,
after year five, maybe you know. I feel like when
you're getting up a little early and you're just like, man,
I don't know about this one. Today. I think you
could be considered a vet then, but I feel like,
you know, sometimes it's a little bit different, just depending

(37:31):
on the person. But yeah, it's just weird. Did you
call me a bet? I I just never thought about it.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
I think so too, because it stuck up on me
when you signed that contract this offseason. I guess it
was like, Okay, I guess he's been in the league
that long. I think of you as a young player too,
were you. I don't know if surprise is the right word,
but did you expect to come back to.

Speaker 7 (37:47):
New orl Honestly, No, and yes, long story, sure, I
was waiting for the Saints for a really long time, Like, man,
I want to be back, but you guys, you guys
haven't talked to me for so long. And then yeah,
like right before stuff was about to you know, going
to things, we had a conversation and they extended me
and I was super excited. So me and my wife,

(38:08):
we were just really excited to be back. My kids
are here, my foundation is here, I have a great
community here. Oh, we appreciate you Cam. Honestly, we just
have so much here in New Orleans and we just
want to continue to build with this community. And honestly,
I want to build this franchise. So that's what I
really wanted to do. And I want to stick with them.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
What is that with contracts and like bosses and corporations
and they always they always do wait till the last minute.

Speaker 7 (38:33):
Yeah, I mean, it's not like you're going in like
any other job. You like, I want to raise like
you're not going in and saying that, you know, I
was just kind of be impatient about the situation, and
I think they saw the value of me, and I
definitely saw the value in staying. And you know, I
really just wanted to be with the franchise. And obviously
I see what Kellen is doing and what he did
before and did Philly did the charge to the Cowboys.
He has a long rap sheet. It's great. And obviously,

(38:56):
you know, being with MS Benson and being with Mickey
Loomis and all those guys, and then I feel like
it was just so good. I've hass such a good
relationship with them, and I just want to continue that.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
So, yeah, I heard the scrimmage the other day was
one hundred and twenty six plays. So has that been
an emphasis like you're getting a lot of working in
a short amount of time.

Speaker 7 (39:13):
Yeah, I mean it was a surprise. I mean, honestly,
you know, when you look at the clock over there,
you're like, man, I think we're supposed to be done
at eleven, and it's eleven thirty. You're just like, WHOA,
We've been out here for quite a bit. You see
guys shoes swishing and junk, and you know, the pants
are all soaked. It's just like she you got here
for a minute, but it's some work that we need.
I feel like, you know, Kell's been really good with

(39:35):
taking care of our bodies, and I think it is
good to kind of simulate the game, and I think
that's something he's been really good about, is kind of
like simulating game like situations.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
I took it as meaningful when I read that little
story that he had. You guys watching the Indiana Pacers
a little bit talking about past, you think it's gonna
be like a fast offense.

Speaker 7 (39:52):
Yeah, what you have to I mean, yeah, to think
about it, like Pacers only had one one superstar, if
you want to call him a superstar, and so you
know them just having like a superstar.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
We're gonna go back and let it get that.

Speaker 7 (40:02):
I'm just saying some people may not. I think he is.
Some people may not. I tell you what, the dream
Team didn't. I mean, I mean that's all I'm saying.
They didn't even play the guy.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
I mean, they didn't same thing. My guy, Jason Satum
was a.

Speaker 7 (40:13):
Super very true which which I'm kind of frustrated about.
But besides the point, I mean, I think just having
a fast paced offense something that gets the defense on
their tows is something that it's definitely a change up.
You know, we have a change up, we have a
curve ball, and we have like a sob paced situation too.
So it's always good to like keep the defense on
the hills and not know what they're well not knowing
what we're going to expect.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
So so you're figuring out who you're starting quarterback is
going to be. Tyler Shuck I thought had some moments
out there today, Spence, Spencer Rattler, You had your guys
on the move, certainly, I guess just like what have
you seen out of your your group, including Jay Cayner
this camp?

Speaker 7 (40:49):
Yeah, I mean, honestly, the one thing that I take
about is that all of them are so supportive. And
the thing is like I feel like in situations you
can kind of get like kind of like a vibe
from you know, each guy to just like they just
don't like seeing each other succeed. And that's not something
that I peep at all. From even the beginning of us,
even drafting Tyler and so all the guys have been
super supportive, super helpful. They even coach each other up,

(41:11):
and I think that's been the biggest thing about it
all is that a leader is going to be out
of this group. Whoever it is, Like, whatever, whatever guy
you want to have, he's going to be a leader.
And honestly, that's what you need. And whoever we have,
whether that's Jake Tyler or Spencer, I mean, you should
be really excited on who we're going to get.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
I won't make you, you know, call out any former situations,
but I've definitely heard red seeing many a quarterback room
where they were not supporting each other. Well, yeah, we
get Caddy them.

Speaker 7 (41:36):
We've heard some that said that, you know, he's not
there to you know, with coaching other people, and you know,
and and that's fair because he's also a fellow Jersey guy.
So I won't say I.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
Think he's yeah Joe Flacco you're talking about, I think
he just sounds like he's gruffing. He's being honest. Actually
he's good behind the scenes. But back in the day
you did hear and read and see that him and
Lamar maybe when he was at a different point in
his career, it maybe wasn't as cool before before I
let you go, you got you got this weighted? Do sure?
Don you said, you know, now you're a veteran, it's
tougher to get out of bed in the morning. Stuff.

(42:07):
You're making it tougher to practice with.

Speaker 7 (42:08):
The Yeah, it's something about adversary that you got to have.
And so you know, I just throw on a little
bit more weight just you know, I have a little
bit more restriction when you're playing out there. I feel like,
you know, it's kind of like a mindset thing. You know.
People ask like, oh, you have what five pounds, and
I'm like, yeah, I mean it's just a mindset. You know,
you really don't feel you just go out there, you're playing,
and then you take your shirt off, and then you
feel like you you're like ten pounds ten pounds later.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
So okay, But what if you like, I don't know,
you probably aren't reading like camp reports or anything like that,
But what if they were like, well, Juwan Johnson was like,
look at a little you know, like a little slower today,
Like look at a little five pounds heavier today, something
like that.

Speaker 7 (42:44):
Right, Honestly, you know, I don't really read it that,
but I will say this, if somebody came up and
asked me, I'm like, well, hey, if I'm a little slower.
Maybe I need to work on getting a little faster,
and I still have this one, so I mean on game,
they'll look a little different, and I think that's probably
what matters.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
Right. It's like it's like that donut on your baseball bat,
and you're out there and there there.

Speaker 7 (43:02):
You know, you're out there and you're like warming up
and you're like one deck. You got the little donut
swinging us up, and then you go out there hit
a grand slam. Whatever the case may be. Nobody has
any questions.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
It is the veteran, but he looks fresh and you
can check him out this season, this preseason. Juan Johnson, appreciate.

Speaker 7 (43:19):
You, absolute appreciate you.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
Man here with Chris Olave, the talented young Saints receiver,
a perfectionists. You weren't you weren't pleased with your practice
today as you were coming over here.

Speaker 10 (43:29):
Oh yeah, man, it's this first day out here, a
kind of high standard for myself. But we were going
to bounce back tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
Tough matchups though, cool kool aid mcinnistry, Alonte Taylor. I
saw on you different points today. What's it like been
going up against those competition?

Speaker 10 (43:43):
Man? A great cornerbacks. Uh we go again. We go
up against each other every day. Uh iron Sharper's iron.
We've been doing that all camp. So Uh they went some,
I went some. But at the end of the day,
is a great competition.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Do you like all the talking they're doing?

Speaker 8 (43:57):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
They do a lot. Do you do a lot of talking?

Speaker 10 (44:00):
When I need to? I don't started, but if they
talked to me, I'll talk back.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
Okay. When I think of Chris o' lobby, like I
remember when you came out in the draft and your
route running and your ability to stop on a dime
with some of those stop routes and just be so
precise in that. How did you get that to be
like one of your strengths? And would you agree that's
one of your strengths. Just repetition every day.

Speaker 10 (44:27):
Especially going into college at Ohio State, Coach Hardline taught
us a lot from our early age. Once I got
there at eighteen years old, I learned that for three
four years learning from him and the receiver room. Just
being so deep, having that competition, watching everybody else work,
it made me just work even harder. So, just like
I said, just having that from eighteen years old and

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trying to sharpen it every year.

Speaker 8 (44:49):
Getting into league was an easy transition for me.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
Was there someone you liked watching while you were back
in college to kind of learn the craft?

Speaker 8 (44:58):
It was really a lot of them. Really, everybody was
good in the room.

Speaker 10 (45:01):
Terry McCloy and Perris Campbell auto older guys.

Speaker 8 (45:04):
I was in front of me.

Speaker 10 (45:05):
Uh, just watched him my freshman year then, and try
to work on my craft every day, try to perfect
my craft, so when my time came, I was the
best I could be.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
You're now with Rashi Yahid like a lot of pop
for him this training camp. What what have you seen
out of him and his growth and how you guys
are gonna play together?

Speaker 10 (45:22):
Oh, he's great man. Once I saw him come in
our rookie year. Uh, I think he was injured at first,
but I've seen him working off to the side. I've
seen he had potential to be what he could be
in every year seeing him develop into a complete receiver.

Speaker 8 (45:35):
Uh.

Speaker 10 (45:35):
I'm excited for him, man, And he's humble as a person,
and uh, I can't wait to see what.

Speaker 8 (45:39):
He does this year.

Speaker 10 (45:40):
Is it's a sky's a limit for him.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
So you know, I asked one of my friends is
a Saints fan, Like I, why should I ask some
of these guys? You got anything you want and you
want to know, Like how does Kellen Moore offense help
you help Chris o' lobby? Like what is it new
or different? And what how this offense is structured? Uh
that you think can can help out your game?

Speaker 10 (46:01):
Man, he puts his he puts the players in great positions.
So it's not really a scheme. He puts the players
in great positions to win. He knows, he knows where
we're good at, he knows where we're great at, and
he puts he puts us in that position to be
able to win on the field. So he looks at matchups,
he looks at every part of the game, Uh, to
have us succeed. And like I said, he puts this
in great positions to be able to win. So I'm

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excited for this year and what he provides for us.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
Like offensively, it's a big change for this team. You
know you were in a certain sort of scheme and
that there was continuity in terms of the coaches that
were there. Your offensive coordinator, Like, what is this new
season been like for you? Like what what have you
felt in the different could be anything, could be the scheme,
or it could be the way you're attacking training camp,
like the vibe of the team at anything that you

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feel like just.

Speaker 10 (46:47):
From top to bottom, Man, it's a whole different vibe,
whole different energy. I love the energy around the building.
I love the energy the coaches bring from the top
to the bottom. Like I said, Kellen's done a great
job and bringing everybody with him. Uh, he brought everybody,
a lot of people from phillip Ophio. They just won
the Super Bowl. So, like I said, just from the
top to the bottom, the vibes and energy every everybody's
body in the chemistry I'm on the team is great.

(47:08):
So I'm excited for the future. I'm excited for the future.
But the season's gonna be great.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
I feel like the Saints are not getting as much
attention maybe nationally, So the people out there, you know,
getting ready for this season, you think they're gonna be wrong.
Tell them why they are going to be wrong if
you think that.

Speaker 10 (47:24):
Man, We're not worried about the Dallas o world. Man,
we just focused on ourselves. Like I said, we got
a great, great roster on paper. We just got to
keep building every day, build the chemistry along the team.
So we getting those hard parts of the season. We
got to lean on each other and and like I said,
we developed that bond, that chemistry right now, so we
get there, We're ready for that moment.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
Appreciate you, Chris o'lave, New Orleans Saints. All right, we
are wrapping up all right day you servine with the
New Orleans Saints. Appreciate all the players coming on. That
was awesome, Jordan. While I was talking to the players,
you were you were doing some interviews for a future

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must read piece to be named later. So I'm looking
forward to that. But we did watch practice together, and
you know, we've had ourselves in a Saint's mindset. So
I guess before we go and I'm curious, like what's
set out to you? What are you thinking about with
this team?

Speaker 2 (48:19):
Yeah, I mean energy from the defense. You know, I
thought that the quarterbacks actually had a decent day. There
wasn't a lot of team periods today.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
By nature.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
Some of the beat writers were telling us that they're
structuring practice is a little bit different under Kellen Moore,
So today maybe less of a full on team period
eleven on eleven workload, but they did get some short
area work in eleven on eleven and the energy from
the defense to Mario Davis at one point came over
to the sideline and said, they're hoping and wishing after
a breakup in the end zone. They're hoping and wishing,

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and then said, write that they didn't touch the paint
all day. So I'm going to share it because he
said I could, you know, he told us to.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
Yeah, he was fired up. He's jumping up and down,
and this.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
His defenses looks legit. The energy is there.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
The communication, the non verbal communication is what I was
watching with the secondary because this is a Brandon Staley defense.
And one thing I learned way back when in watching
a defense coordinated by him is you have to watch
the nonverbals, the hand signals, and that sort of ripple
effective communication across the back half of the defense. And
that is very much there right.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
They were using Danny Stutsman, the rookie who's reportedly had
a nice camp. They've they've drafted some stuff to him.
Great at that position, I was gonna say, if someone
has some stuff.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
To him, Danny Stutsman got some stuff to him, he's got.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Some stuff, and he was getting the first team snaps
because the Mario Davis wasn't in there today, which is
why maybe he was so vocal. And you look around
the defense and you do see productive players in the past.
You see a good mix of youth, and it can
be a better than average defense. It's gonna need to
be a renaissance season for you, boy, Brandon Staley.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Yeah, I think so, and I think it's it's going
to be interesting. I like the partnership with him and
Kellen Moore.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
There seems to be they were communicating a lot.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
There seems to be a good sort of Hey, let's
go out there and compete with each other, because they're
really building this thing, combining a lot of older guys
with some very very new pieces and then also such
uncertainty still at quarterback, and so they're kind of just
like building this miss mish mash of ecosystems together, and

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so you need to go out there and compete the
way that we saw today, And I thought, honestly, I
thought the quarterbacks, even though nobody scored credit to the
defense in terms of getting to their reads getting the
ball out, overall decent.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
Day, it looked like from the three rotating guys, I.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
Feel like there was there was one score. It wasn't there.
There also was you know, the officials kind of gave.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
It it dropped.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
They dropped it on a scram, on a scram on
a tip pass. There was a drop pass in the
end zone. The quarterbacks were scrambling a lot. I saw
more option plays than I would have expected, with Tyler
Shuck running it with Spen. Ratler was on the move
for much of the day. Jay Caner was holding onto
the ball maybe a little too long in scrambling round.
There was a lot of scrambling round. And that's the
flip side of like saying the defense looks so good.

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It's like, Okay, what is real there? And what is
them playing? An offense that's that's not totally.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
And that's where I do look at the way they're communicating.
I don't necessarily when I say they had the energy
and they looked really solid, it's like, it's not like, oh,
because they were making plays against an offense that's still
figuring out what it is. The reason I say that
is because that communication already seems very advanced relative to
having a new coach entirely new coaching staff coming in

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and running this system. And I think that's what really
stood out to me is that the chatter, yes, was
there amongst each other and that colms together. But the
nonverbal stuff, like I said, all I do when I
come out here and watch any coach from this system
their defense. I watched the hand signals and that's very
much what was happening today.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
And they have a lot of smart players.

Speaker 8 (51:56):
You know.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
We talked to Justin Reid and they brought in Julie.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
One of my favorite players by the way to a
long time.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
And YEA, yeah, you just think of like, I'm so
jealous him, know how, in this group, I'm glad you're jealous.
It's good to make you feel jealous every once in
a while. Also, you're talking to some of the some
of the beat writers that are covering the team, and
then talking a little bit with the players here too. Look, look,
I think if this offense is better than expected, and
by that I would mean like, like, look if they
finished the year twenty second, let's say in Dvoway and

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they're just respectable enough and the defense really plays better
than people are like to the Saints I think that
is their path to relevance. It's going to be because
of their running game, which actually today I thought looked
pretty good. They haven't been repping the running game apparently
in practice all that much, but today they did. It
was kind of a special teams and running game, and
I thought it looked good. It's a just a sight

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for sore eyes to see those Alvin Kamara I.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
Understeps and just how oh cool he still got.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
It natural a mover, he is gliding through the hole,
and I thought he looked awesome a year ago. I
think Kendre Miller is an X factor for this team
because he's just given them nothing and the coaching staff
is on him to stay on the field, and he
is the healthiest that he has ever been, and so
if he can give them a second explosive player in

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that backfield with Kamara, to me, he is pretty clearly
going to be the two. But he has to stay
healthy because they just need juice. The thing you worry
about a little bit, and they are built to run
up front in terms of their offensive line is just
they just got a lot of like smaller, fast guys.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
And it's not a big Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
He had a move today where I really saw because
I haven't seen a ton of him, but I really
saw his patience as a runner where his first block
got closed off, but his first gap got closed off
by the defense, and he hesitated just long enough, but
he didn't hesitate in the way where he was moving backwards.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
He's almost moving sort of sideways through the air.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
And then he cut to the other side and he
found a new crease, and I just thought, Okay, that
guy's got something there that keep doing that. You know,
hopefully your first GAP's open. But the elusiveness the patients
and seeing what's available to him, you did see a
little something there.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
Natural mover and he kind of touched on. That's why
I'm a little confused. Maybe it was seven on sevens
when he kind of touched on, but he definitely kind
of touched on today.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
Hearing elevens daring elevens, I'm gonna go with the Mario on.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
It was probably seven on seven when when they scored
that touchdown. So yeah, looking at the Saints, I we're
gonna check them out. Me and my son, we're gonna
be in the crowd on Sunday, and.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
We love the NFC South looking forward by the way.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
We do, we'll see obviously, Like I was here last
training camp and they were they were trying to like
talk themselves up, and I was like this, this team
seems doomed. I think this year they're trying to talk
themselves up and I do feel like a little better
about it that it can be a nice start and
if they they there is a path for them to
go five and twelve and it actually be like a

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positive season. It's tough as an NFL fan to go
into a season like that, but I think if they
have a young developmental season and get the right mix
of their young players getting better, that could be better.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
I think they're going to be a tough team to play, honestly,
because I do think that, yes, their record may or
may not be what it is. We are all very
realistic about this team and kind of where it's at
and some of the places they really have to rebuild.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
If you don't have the answer at quarterback, you have a.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
Long way to go still. But they're going to be
a tough team to uh smother. They're going to be
a tough team to kind of beat down the way
that we saw near the end of the season last year.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
I got a beef that they just got.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
They seemed just like like tired and just ready to
just come on, like let's just get some energy back
in here. And I it is training camp, but I
really felt that energy today.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
And there's no fans here.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
So even having that self manifested, like making that yourself,
not relying on people being in the crowd cheering you
on to do it like that says something to me too.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
Yeah. And on the Tyler shuck, is he getting rid
of the ball? Watch? I thought that was okay today
there was like two.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
We had you in the first half. You can't lie.
But he looked good near the end of the practice.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
First couple of snaps, he was doing the thing result
onto the ball too much, but they actually moved the ball.
I didn't think they looked bad. It was just the
second they got close to scoring a touchdown it stopped.
All right, we are gonna stop now. That was it
for this show. We will be updating you on all
the injury situations around the league. We are aware of
the Anthony Richardson pinky situation, but we don't know what

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it's gonna be. He took a hit where he was
just no situational awareness and a bad job by the
blocking there in Indianapolis. So we'll see if that series,
we'll see if the Chauncey Gardner Johnson injury in Houston
is serious. One of my favorite players. He was carted
off of practice today. But we'll update all that when
we are back with you Sunday night recapping all the
preseason takeaways. You will next hear in this feed forties

(56:40):
in free Agents though Jeremiah.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
Yeah here, by the way, I mentioned it earlier. I
hear this really good Greg roast in that episode. I
mean DJ told me.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Every time, I mean you should say it talk about
like a competition. You should be feeling the heat from DJ,
and people are gonna like those shows better. You gotta
watch out. Football's back.