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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Should we do a tane A little tane hit the
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intro bellahameine. It's the tangent giving you all this shit
we couldn't talk about on the air. You guys am
obsessed with this song. I'm obsessed with it. I'm obsessed
with it, Okay, I don't I don't know. I woke
up Saturday and so the trend is on TikTok is
that people are dancing to this song. And I guess
(00:24):
it started in Brazil. And my understanding is that this
is an actual song from the eighties that somebody put
through an AI filter and it was already like a
funk song, but then they put it through an AI
filter and they made it even funkier. I don't know,
and someone, you're welcome to hit me up on my
socials and tell me if I got this all wrong,
because it's hard to believe this is a real song.
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But we don't know what they're saying because it's in Portuguese.
But you cannot tell me if you didn't know what
they were saying. This is a bop. You don't like it,
Jason likes it.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I love it for you guys, Yeah, I didn't know
you were such like a disco queen.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I like a little funky, I like a little one
of the things. They just listen there, you'll like something
like how can you be upset about? When this comes up?
Just wait for the hooked up shut So I hell
(01:29):
on now, hell two? That's all I know. There's a
whole dance to it too, and people are doing it
on TikTok and then they're playing the song for their
parents or friends or grandparents who speak Portuguese, and like
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everyone sind of starts out with like a big smile
on their life and then they hear the words. So
let me translate this for you, please, okay, now again,
if you know the history of this, I tried to
figure it out. I tried to look it up a pair.
This is a real eighties song, but it's called the
Frog Predator. I guess it's how it translates. Except I
think frog is and someone else can tell me this.
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I'm pretty sure frog is slaying for pussy. Oh that's
that's my understanding. Again. I don't speak Portuguese, so I
could be wrong. But you heard that that that delightful song,
that that delight like if I played that for my
mom she would be like so excited, like because it's
like Bruno Mars.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Brute Mars does sound like the Portuguese Bruno Mars.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Yeah, so I I here allegedly, here are the lyrics.
The smile of this princess is spectacular. It's impressive when
I drag her into the fight. So far, okay, she
doesn't call her friends because she can handle it alone.
She sits for three and then sucks for and the
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and the chorus goes, me you us, we put it
on her. The gang has arrived? Were the pussy predators.
I don't think that spank the pussy, share the pussy
go sit hard for the boys from the slum, then me,
you us, we put it on her. The gang has arrived.
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Were the pussy predators. We say that several times, so
I mean it really wants you. I just played did
I just played two Tailors songs in a row?
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Did I as you should?
Speaker 5 (03:29):
You might have not, but someone else might as you should,
depending if we threw it into pussy predators.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
You know, she doesn't know to look and see. I'm
just I know this is the tangent, but I'm now
we're handling business, so can we can we make sure
to teach her to belahamine to go look and make
sure we don't play the same.
Speaker 6 (03:47):
Song were they Was it the same song?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
God no no, you say God no down before you know?
Speaker 4 (03:55):
I mean, they would also be okay, I.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Mean for a little while, she want it for my
I'm not going to get into the technical because no
one cares. But for a little while we because some
songs that are being played we don't hear in the
studio here. So for a while she was actually just
playing songs she liked, which is not how that works. Unfortunately,
if we were playing songs that we all liked, we
would either have ratings or half the or none none
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of the ratings. I don't I don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
I wouldn't play any of this anyway.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
So this song continues to talk about how much she
can handle and and how the gang is here. It's
like a it's a song about Bonnie Blue is what
it is. It's beautiful, but I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
If she's if she's consenting, it sounds like she's a
real she got a lot of stamina.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Yeah, I mean, what I'm wondering is is this just
sort of the Portuguese version of La Shona, you know
who allegedly laed Shona was a woman of the Knight
who was very well respected. If I understand the history
of La Shona correctly, then I she was a well
respected lady of this of the city.
Speaker 6 (04:58):
It's I mean, it's giving lich it.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Is well, yeah, but I think they're a little more
uh kinder with.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Well, yeah, they just have nice things to say about her,
But then I get throwing bottles at her.
Speaker 6 (05:07):
Yeah, are they screaming and yelling?
Speaker 1 (05:10):
But I would agree if if this woman is into
what's happening, like if she is in fact Bonnie Blue
and like you know, reincarnated or Bonnie Blue is her
and she's asking for this, well that's quite the feat. Yeah,
she's she's here for the challenge and she won't be stopped.
So there's an article in USA Today this morning about
how because you know I read USA Today, it's part
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of my perusal USA Today. Well, I'm big into the
Wall Street Journal. In fact, we're about to add a
financial minute to the program finally, you know where I
tell you what stocks about? It help us because a
lot of people, a lot of people would like to
know what stocks I'm buying Yeah, I don't even know
what stocks I'm buying, so it doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
I haven't even buy stocks. I don't even know.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
At the stock market, stock store, we go to the
stock market. You I'll take three. Yeah, you go over there?
Speaker 4 (05:59):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Hey, everybody, you go to the place on Roosevelt. Not Roosevelt.
What's what should what's the Oh god, what's the name
of his treat I'm thinking of it's south Loop. It's
not Roosevelt, but it's to get under the post office there. Congress, Congress, Congress,
and they got the stock market.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
You're just roll up in air the Columbus and Congress, the.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Board of Trade. You just walk up their trade something.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Low ki, I think hot take those are a scam?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
You think stocks are a scam. I think a lot
of people would disagree. I think a lot of rich
people would disagree with you about that.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
I know you're buying nothing, No, but you are.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
You're buying a piece of accomfortable. I don't understand that
you don't need to buy something tangible to make money.
I guess not doesn't exist. And look at all the
money people bought on midim bitcoin.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
I just don't get it.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
However, back to my USA today perusal, people are holding
their virginity for a longer period of time, hanging onto
their virginity, and people are having less sex today than
I guess they've had in previous times. The twenty twenty
three Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Youth Risk Behavior,
I don't know what that is. Study, I guess found
adolescent sexual behavior declined since twenty thirteen. A twenty twenty
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two survey from the Kinsey Institute found that one in
four gen Z adults say they've never experienced partnered sex
one in four gen Z. So is gen Z as
modest as people might think. One journalist for The Guardian
digs into that question in her new book called The
Second Coming, which explores gen Z's sex life or lack thereof.
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This author found through interviews with more than one hundred
young people that the generational dry spell is less puritanical
and more political, with gen Z as abstaining from sex
for a variety of complex reasons. Gen Z is sometimes
framed as a nation of virgins, which is something that's
never has been said about me since I was twenty one.
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But our obsession with the lack of intercourse may really
say more about our constant need to tell young people
how to have sex, rather than corrective. She argues, I okay, really,
but yeah, so it turns out I think some of
us has to do with Roe versus Wade. I guess
sexual conservativism it's a movement to make it dangerous to
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have queer, unmarried or recreational sex. Sexual conservatism has done
a much better job of speaking about the difficulties of
raising a family in this country than progressives. It's very
appealing for young people to go towards sexual conservativism because
the only people that you're talking about are okay, so politics,
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How does only fans fit into it? It becomes another
metric whereby people evaluate themselves and make themselves also appear.
That way for young people to line between real life
and virtual sex is very much diminishing and blurring. So
I don't know. Here's my thing. If you had it
to do over again, would you have waited longer to
have sex?
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Yes, yes, I would have.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I mean I waited some time, so there were you know,
there wasn't much time left for me. Actually, yeah, to
wait to have say, I waited a very long I
don't think I waited on purpose. It was more of
a matter of.
Speaker 6 (09:19):
You had a purity ring.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Well I did. I was. I'm actually the bonus Bonus Jonas. Yeah,
a lot of people don't know this, but I'm a
cousin of the Jonas brothers, and I, you know, sort
of aligned with them even though they were not pure.
I don't think I think they were wearing the rings.
I think they were still fucking But no. But I
went to school with basically the same I mean, I
graduated with forty four people, and of those, I bet
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you you know, three quarters were girls. And of those girls,
I knew them since most of them since kindergarten. So
I feel like, you know, as far as high school
was concerned, there was no variety. And then I ventured
out to other schools and there were some. There were
some shenanigans, like seventy prom I did. There was. I've
said to some million times my parents were extremely effective
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at at making me aware of the potential consequences of
getting someone pregnant. Girl and aids age was like a
real thing. Maybe not in my community per se, but
you know, it was. It was STDs, no cure, no
curable as like like you know herpes age, you get
that your age, You're going to die is what I
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think people thought growing up, and I think in the
eighties it was true. And before that was true, I've
you got aides full blown age, you were probably going
to die. Now that's not true. You might live your
whole life. But I think it was that, and I
think it was my parents were like, hey, fuck around,
find out man, go ahead and get somebody pregnant, and
your life is ruined. Now that's not true, but I
mean it certainly would have derailed things. You know, I
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think people who get pregnant when they're fourteen, fifteen, sixteen,
in high school or whatever, I think they probably would
They make it work, but it certainly changes the plan.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Right, it's got to be so hard, and so I
think my.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Parents were effective in sort of saying, hey, man, like
think about that, and that plus kind of a lack
of variety. But then I got to college and they
were like thousands of girls, and then shit started to
go down because it was like, I don't know, if
I mean think about that, think about if your high
school only consisted of thirty girls, like you're classed. I
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guess times. So there were one hundred girls or something
one hundred and twenty girls in the entire high school.
I mean think about think about that, Like, you've got
some that were totally not going to be your type,
some that were like really your type, and then a
lot of people in the middle. But most high schools
have four thousand people or something, you know, between two
and four thousand people in the high school, So we're
talking about thousands of people. I think you're more likely
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to find someone who's more aligned with you and maybe
have a crush in the little relationship and then maybe
fuck I was I never had a girlfriend really, so
like there was no I don't know, it would have
been casual, which wasn't as much of a thing. I
don't know. What about you, Jason, Like, well you thirteen.
Speaker 7 (12:01):
There, Yeah, oh no, I was fifteen, but there were
only like ninety kids in each of our grades, so
like it's kind of similar.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
But most of the people that I hooked up with then.
Speaker 7 (12:16):
Were not from my school. They were just people that
lived around me. Okay, so that's probably where the difference lies.
But I would definitely have weighted because I feel like
as I got older, I realized a lot more about
you know.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
And we've talked about this before, but like you start,
you lost your virginity to a woman, yes, and how
many women before you had sex with a man?
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Four? And the whole time were you like I don't
really like.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
I'm I'm not wait, I think it's fine.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
I'm not devaluing these women at all. But like, were
you doing this because it was like, well, this is
what I'm supposed to do? Or are you doing it
because you wanted to? I mean you wanted to.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
I wanted to. I did. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (13:00):
I think it was a mixture of like it's what
I was supposed to do and it's what I thought
I should be doing. And I guess I'll like figure
all that else out later because there's a lot of stuff.
I got a process. I'm not thinking about that right now. Yeah,
I think it was like a mixture of everything.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
And then what if you know, you don't have to
answer this, what do you on a spot? But like
what was the deciding factor for the first guy? Like
how did that come about? And how did you decide
like we're gonna do that Craigslist? So one day you
were just like yeah, okay, so how does this happen though,
Like you find this, I'm genuinely very curious. So like
you're just sitting there one day and you're like, no,
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you know what, I really want to know what that's like.
So you just went to Craigslist.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
I think you start like learning stuff, you know, like
I didn't. It was unaccessible to me.
Speaker 7 (13:42):
There were no other gay people in my school, or
I was not surrounded by gay people in my neighborhood
like I was. There were, right, I didn't, so they
weren't a resource to like show me how to do
things right. So you start learning little tidbits or what
to do or whatever. And then yeah, it was like,
oh this popped up. I'm like, yeah, why not, let's
try it. And then that was my first relationship.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
So you you responded to an add on craigslistor you okay,
and you remember what they get to say.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
I don't remember.
Speaker 7 (14:14):
There were so many like you could go to a
whole section of like men looking for men female like
it was like a dating that was like the og
like dating site was crazy.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
You ended up dating weird.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Yeah, it was my first relationship.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Do you remember meet him in a parking lot somewhere in.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
The back of I don't know how specific when I
got his.
Speaker 7 (14:31):
Family had a business and it was after hours in
the back of the business.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Okay, how much chatting was there before you guys met? Oh?
Speaker 7 (14:41):
Oh, before we met a lot, Like I remember like
texting back and forth.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
So you show up and then because I've learned a
lot over the years from you and other people kind
of about the culture, and it's it can be very
different than straight culture in that it can be extremely transactional.
Speaker 7 (14:58):
Yeah, I feel like in in the gay culture, probably
to the benefit of us, there's a lot of times
where both parties are in it transactionally, whereas I feel
like in straight culture with you guys, that might be
the guys are just the girls are like looking for
a relationship right.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Interesting because like you know, whether it's these guess whether
it's the way people talk or these apps you know,
t app or whether it's you know, are we getting
the same guy or whatever you're starting to see like
in a public forum that men and look, there are
some gross guys on these like straight guys on these apps.
But it's like it's like if I'm looking for something
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casual and I say that and I say it to
the wrong girl that I'm an asshole, like I'm a
bad guy, but it doesn't that doesn't exist in it, Like,
for example, I I don't feel bad about being transparent,
especially when you've got people out there who are they're
just trying to get laid, but then they'll tell a
girl that they want to be with her just to
get laid, and then they and then they drop off.
(16:01):
Like I guess I don't understand that difference, and maybe
it's just the way. And I hate to be the
guy that says the way that man and women think,
because I know that there are exceptions, but it's like,
why is it that in gay culture it can be like, hey,
let's just do this and have fun and be happy
and then and then there's like no one's And if
if I ask you for that and you don't want
to do it and you say no, you're not a
bad person. I just don't want to do it with you.
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But it's like, why is it that you know these
women are on there going now, fuck fuck this guy.
All he wanted to do is bang me. It's like, okay,
did he was he that clear about it? Because if
he was, and that's not for you, then all you
have to do is say unmatch or block or I
don't know why that you know. I guess it's like
did he lie to you about it? Did he did
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he cheat? Is he a predator? Did he steal from you?
Did he give you a disease? I mean, like, is
there some factor out here in the straight world that
women need to be aware of this man for their safety?
I'm all for that, But on the flip side, it's
like I've wound up on these things before because it
was like I and it's something casual and I asked
for it and the person said no, And now it's
what a fucking asshole, And it's like, why right, if
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it's not for you, it's not for you. But I
guess I would much rather than a woman because it's
happened the other way too, by the way, and I
think that's something that seems to be forgotten here. Is
like I get ghosted and I've had people say hey,
can we fuck you know in so many terms, and
then if I start to like them, it's like, no,
I told you. I don't think you're a bitch for that.
(17:29):
I don't think you're a bad person. I think you're
asking for what you want and doing it, and if
I want something else or my expectations are different and
you can't deliver. You didn't lie to me, you asked,
you know what I mean, And you didn't send me
a picture of your dick you want gross, So I
guess I don't understand. Like that's a very strange thing
for me.
Speaker 7 (17:46):
Yeah, it's such a dichotomy. I think it's so funny
because like if you're just meeting someone on I mean
probably the biggest gap is Grinder, right, if you're meeting
on there or any of them, really, it's understood that
like you just trying to and like if anything deviates
from that, like that's spoken about from the jump. But
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it's so weird that like it's that's just the understanding, right,
you know. But like in your with you guys, it's good.
It's the complete opposite.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Now, if you do that to the wrong person, which
is a lot of people that aren't looking for that,
then not only are you is it not for them,
but it's also let's go anonymously roast you for wanting
that with your face and picture attached to it. It's like,
and again I don't know if I'm I'm sure I'm
on the tyet, but I don't know about the I've
shown up on the other ones, and it's just like,
but why what did I do that was? I mean,
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I get it wasn't for you and you didn't like it,
and I'm sorry, but like, it's not as though you
said no and then I showed up at your work,
you know, or like you know what I mean, I
wouldn't leave you. It's like, I don't know. I mean, I
feel like there are men and women out there they're
asking for what they want and then sometimes they get shunned,
and then it's almost like, well, now I don't know
what I'm I don't know what I'm supposed to. I
guess I'm I'm just not going to do anything anymore
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because I don't I don't really feel like being made
fun of for being respectfully direct. And by the way,
that was years ago. Now I'm looking I would be
looking for more of a partnership, but apparently I can't
find that because if a girl saw me on are
we dating the same guy? Which I've never cheated before ever,
then I'm a bad guy. Because three years ago I
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asked a girl if she wanted to fuck around. It's
it's very strip but in the gay community, it's that's
that doesn't really exist. Like yeah, it's just totally different
the you know what, what people see as normal or abnormal.
Speaker 7 (19:30):
Yeah, I mean, I I mean the first time I
met Mike, I'm pretty sure. I mean we're both I'll
be honest, we probably were both and like, oh, we're
just here to hook up, right, like that's whatever. Of
course I ended up catching feelings because I'll fall for anyone,
and then like I somehow it was a long road,
but like converted him to like want to be committed,
you know, but like that doesn't happen. Like that's very yeah,
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And it's so weird because I feel like there is
no standard way of like getting into a gay relationship.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Either has to like he upen like that or like camping.
Speaker 7 (20:02):
Yeah, the jewels in the front after you go to jewels, Yeah,
at jewels, Like I don't, I don't know. It's very
It's hard because you know you're going in thinking that
you're just there for one thing and then you could
change it.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
My best friend is like he loves love Jonathan and
he met his boyfriend on his dating app, and like
he always would would you know, tell me what you're saying,
And it's just it's so hard, and he's like people
just want to either hook up or like it's just
a bunch of dudes that are like just low key grindy,
like they're just you know a lot of them.
Speaker 7 (20:33):
Are closet ed, you know, you know some of them
are around so sad. Yeah, or you just want to
be a huh.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Yeah, he didn't want that though, That's what I'm saying.
He didn't want that.
Speaker 7 (20:41):
Like it's hard for people that don't want that, because
it's like where do I find different way a pool
of people that want to be in a relationship, Like
they don't exist, you know, like you're not gonna find
them that steam works.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
You know, just stating is hard for no matter what
you're right.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
I have to say though, I'm on those sites and
usually if people post something like benign is that, girls
will literally say like that doesn't sound like an issue.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
There are there are rules on those pages.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
The posts get taken down, like if you're not doing
something really diabolical, you're not getting called sites.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Yeah, I mean, I think the t app's gotten kind
of etic I don't.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
Yeah, I just have the arm dating the same guy.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
It's basically, you can red flag a picture in a
name of anyone and then anonymously write anything that you
want and whatever. I mean again, like I'm it's part
of the deal. I guess, I get. I don't really
understand it because you don't have to put your name
on it. And as we've learned from the Internet and
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in this in this profession, people can say whatever the
fuck they want it and it's just true, I guess,
because a lot of times the people involved don't get
to respond, so it's like, you know whatever. But it's
interesting to me because if my understanding was the purpose
of all of this stuff is safety, and if that's
the case, I am one hundred percent all for it.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Safety And before a lot of people before they commit
to someone, go all right, ladies, I'm about to commit
to this dude.
Speaker 6 (22:02):
Is anyone else seeing him?
Speaker 2 (22:03):
And sadly, more often than not, other people are like actively.
Speaker 6 (22:08):
Actively seeing them. Yeah, that's a bummer.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Also, how sad that we need to, like before we
go exclusive with someone that we need to ask, but
we do.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
But I gotta be honest, and I don't mean to
flip this, but like I have talked, I've gone on
dates with and talked to women for weeks and thought
we were working towards something and gotten a phone call
or either gotten ghosted or going to text Hey, I've
decided to go. I've decided to commit to someone else.
I'm not going to go to a message board and
rip that woman a new asshole and colors, because because unfortunately,
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there is risk to dating, Like unfortunately, in putting yourself
out there, there's the opportunity that someone's not going to
treat you the way that you want to be treated
and that sucks. But that's not exclusive. And again there
are some gross guys out there and and but I
mean gross like unsolicited you know, pictures and really graphic
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things and then finding you places and then showing up places.
And I'm not talking about a guy that's like, hey
want to fuck if you if that if that is gross,
unmatched next.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
Yeah, even that wouldn't make it out.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I'm telling you, it seems like it's that because you're
not on there, but like people will.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
Call you out.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Well, I did make it on there once for that,
and I got the screenshots and then I went away.
They took it off. Yeah, they take it. At first,
I was so upset about it because I'm like, well,
this is not great, Like this is not sending out
I don't want my name attached to whatever. But then
I'm reading through the comments and I'm like, first of all,
some of these people I know, some of these people
I did date. Some of these people I've never met,
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and they claim they went on a date with me.
Some of these people are telling the exact opposite of
the actual thing that happened. And I have all the receipts.
But what am I gonna do? Like, I'm not going
to go on the message board and can and contribute
to the toxicity. But I also some of it, I
some of it's true, Like oh, he asked me for nudes. Yeah,
we chatted for a couple of months and went on
a date and I asked you for news. You're damn right,
(23:58):
I absolutely did that. Like, No, that's I don't think
that's I don't what do you mean.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
No, I'm just not sending news. You didn't ask me,
But I'm not.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Sending you've never in your life.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
No, we had this talk. You and I have never
done this before.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
You're not. I haven't either. No one on earth has
a picture, no better one. I don't think Dick's are
good looking. I do well, okay, but I'm not going
out like that. I'm just not going out.
Speaker 7 (24:24):
I'm not going out like I would never send one
to nu get one in return, Like I feel so.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Like vulnerable, like.
Speaker 8 (24:34):
I'm out here naked, don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
It's just dating is tough, and it's it's hard on
the apps when it's a numbers game to really to
dial in who to invest in and who not to
invest in, and who's looking for what and the other thing.
I also have kind of a I have kind of
a I don't know, a dry sense of humor. I
also kind of like to test people. I like to
see where my limits are and I like to see
how you and I'm not being disgusting, but like I
(24:58):
don't know, i' I like to see, like can we banter?
Like do you you know? Or are you gonna shut
me down immediately when it goes someplace you don't want
to go, Like you can just say no, I don't
want to talk about that, or I'm not interested. But
that's what I'm looking for, Like are you boundaried. Are
you rigid or can you go with the flow, because
I don't think you can date me if you can't
go with the flow. The other thing I cannot stand
(25:20):
is well, he only dates for content. I've heard that
one a million times. Years ago. I talked a lot
more about dating on the air. I never, one time
ever did or would identify anyone by any form of
feature or name or place a bit. There's no way
that anybody would ever know who I was talking about
unless you told them that I was talking about you.
(25:41):
And even then, the stories usually were the joke was
on me, like I was the dipshit in the story.
It was I'm not going out dating people trying to
embarrass you. It's absolutely not my game. It never hasn't.
But I kind of stopped talking about dating because I
don't think it was I put this on me. I
don't think it was coming off the right way.
Speaker 8 (25:59):
I wish you wouldst talking about it again.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
I got kind of roasted for it, and it's like,
it's just not worth it. It's not worth it because
I don't want people to think that I am dating
for content. That being said, my whole life is content,
and that is no secret. Like everybody before we meet,
it's this is what I do, you know, And but
then here's the thing. But you can go on a
message board with my face and my name and say
(26:24):
whatever you want anonymously. That's far worse than me talking anonymously,
you know, in vague terms about a date that I
went on with somebody who you know, it's it either
I did something stupid or it didn't go well. So
it's kind of hypocritical in some ways, but I get it.
There are lots of people out there who I mean
to go, hey, I don't want to be talked about
on the radio, No problem, no problem, They're.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
Just not for you.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Then I think, like, you can't be dating someone who
one hundred percent is not okay with that. Unfortunately, it's
hard to find, but it exists, and I just don't
think that would work.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
So, I mean, I get it. I get that there
are people who are fed up with some of the
book shit and it's a waste of their time and
they feel I get all. I understand the frustration. I
also understand there's a lot of bad stuff out there.
You know, there are people scamming, there are people stealing,
there are people stalking, There are people cheating, there are
people you know, committing essay, there are I mean there,
(27:17):
it is out there, and I am all for calling
those people out, but I do sometimes think that some
of the just the normal stuff that just kind of
sucks about dating gets grouped in there. And again it's
not a feel bad for me thing, but it's like
I've never one time thought I'm going to go to
a message board to let everybody know that I really
liked this girl and she didn't like me back, Like
(27:38):
that's you know what I mean, Or that I went
on a couple of dates with a girl and then
she goes to me because she was going on dates
with other people because that's what you do on the apps,
and she likes somebody else better. That fucking sucks when
that happens. Yeah, but that's dating, right, Like.
Speaker 6 (27:55):
Wrong, I'm telling you.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
The posts aren't like that, Like they they're not like
somebody didn't text me back, everybody roast him. People will
call you out in two seconds. Good, no, yeah, good,
they police it really well.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
I'm just saying, well, I told you year two or
three years ago, I had that one experience and it
was simply let's roast Fred. And it was by the way,
oh Christopher, Yeah he's Fred from the radio, and blah
blah blah blah blah, and here's all this bad shit.
And I was like, and I was going through this
something I don't know half of these people. And then
what was funny is some people started to stepping in, going,
actually I like that guy, Like he's okay, And even
(28:26):
people I went out with, we're like, I went out
him a couple of times. I mean he's fine, Like
it didn't work out. Whatever it's but you're right. I mean,
if you're on there with the intents of protecting yourself,
then that's that sucks that. But I think the t
app has been a little more gossipy and I'm.
Speaker 6 (28:42):
I can't speak on yeah, yeah, I can't.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Get on it because but from what I'm hearing, that's
a little bit more like roast fest. But what's funny is, uh,
some four Chan hacked it last week and and you
have to, I guess, submit your ID to get an
anonymous account, and you have to be very to get in.
And four Chan hacked it and they have everybody's ID
who's on it. And I don't think they can make
(29:05):
four chant it's a hacker group. Like a hacker gang,
you can't. I don't think they can associate who's on
it with the comments. But I suppose if there are
people on there saying things about you, and you have
access to see who has accounts, I think it wouldn't
be too much of a leap to find figure out
who's talking about you. And apparently now they're a lawyer
specializing in subpoenating the tee app to get the IP
(29:28):
addresses of the people who are writing so that they
can find out who did it and they can suit
for defamation.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
Good.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
I mean, if you're if you're lying on someone, then
you shouldn't you're abusing it, or.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
If you're just gossiping, right, because again, like if guys
were doing and I guess they're there's well, there is
a response app to the t app. It's called box score.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Okay, And I'm not on that either. As much as
I would love to see what people are saying, I
don't want to be involved with it. I don't even
want to have an account because I don't agree with it,
Like I don't think it's cool.
Speaker 6 (30:01):
Yeah, people are.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Gonna dick you over. In dating, people are gonna be stupid,
They're gonna be gross and not gonna like you. It
happens all the time.
Speaker 8 (30:08):
So this tea app I did, I just started hearing
about it.
Speaker 6 (30:11):
Is it new?
Speaker 2 (30:12):
So you're saying that like people are more like it's
more of like a gossip thing like those old like websites.
Speaker 6 (30:16):
Gosh, what were they?
Speaker 3 (30:17):
There was almost a dirty, dirty someone with an age,
wasn't it.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
No?
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Okay, I don't know, there's there have been even in
college there was a juicy campus where people would just
talk shit those Yeah, I don't agree.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
But again my understanding was the tea app was formed
for safety.
Speaker 8 (30:36):
Okay, sounds like they're not monitoring it as well.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
I think it's exploded kind of. And again I'm not
I'm not on it. I've not seen it knowing. You know,
typically when I show up on this stuff, somebody sees
it and sends me the screenshot even though you're not
supposed to. And it's fine whatever, Like I ask for
some of this, right, Like, I'm putting myself out there.
In the past, I've been very transparent about what I'm
looking for, and I I guess that's not for these people.
But I guess I also don't. It's not criminal, like,
(30:59):
it's not. If it's not for you, then just unmatch me,
just stop talking. They say, Hey, this isn't for me,
no problem. Like now again, if I'm like, you don't,
fucking bitch, well fuck me, like you know what I mean? Like,
then I'm an asshole for that. But I don't know.
It's you don't have to love it. But unfortunately, I
think that's the culture and it's happening on both sides.
I don't assume anyone I meet on a dating app
(31:21):
is only talking to me. Why would I assume that? Yeah,
And why would I assume that because we're talking on
an app means that we're absolutely going to meet and
that we're absolutely going to hit it off, and that
the person's going to fall in love with me and
I'm going to have a complete and total control over
that situation. That is an unfair expectation, as a totally
unreasonable expectation. Guys shouldn't have it. Girls shouldn't have it. Yea,
(31:41):
And again I'll say it for the fifth time for
anyone listening. I do know that there are gross men,
and if they are infringing upon your privacy or safety.
Call them out.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
I hate that that's making you like cool off on
dating though.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Oh yeah, I've been off the dating apps for six months.
I want nothing to do with Oh yeah, I want
nothing to do with I don't want anything to do
with it. It's unfortunately, it's too much. It's I'm yeah,
you know, And again, what I want now is different
than what I wanted two years ago or five years ago.
And I've wanted different things in the last decade, right, Like,
sometimes I just want something casual. Sometimes I want a
(32:19):
partnership something. But like God forbid, somebody with whom I
wanted to hook up and they didn't want to hook
up goes on a thing and then someone now who
I might want a date sees me on there and
is like, oh, he's an asshole. I am like, I
don't know. I mean, there are people I don't that's
kind of crazy, right, I mean people have a right
to evolve and change and want different things from different
(32:41):
people too. That part, Yeah, I mean what you may
have wanted before you met Hovey and then what you
what you wanted when you met Hovey. And I'm not
I'm just using. You come looking at you, but like
the guy you met before Hovey, you may have just
wanted to bang. And then you meet Hovey and you're like, no,
this guy, this is different, this feels different. I want
something different. I'm really going to like focus on something
more healthy. And then you did, and then and I'm
(33:04):
making this scenario up, and then you look, you're married
with a kid and you're happy. So I don't know.
I mean, I could be hooking up with someone and
then meet someone and be like, wow, this this feels
different to me and then pursue that in a different way.
Like it's very possible. Now, if I'm a criminal or
a scammer, I'm unlikely to change, probably right, And I'm
looking for money or to use people or whatever.
Speaker 6 (33:24):
But yeah, humans are flawed.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
We have to let people grow and change and evolve, absolutely,
you know, in every facet of life, even the scammers.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Back to the virginity thing though, if you guys, could
you had you lost your virginity to a guy you loved, Yeah,
so you probably wouldn't change that.
Speaker 6 (33:40):
I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
I Also, you know, I'm not big on the whole
like virginity. I'm not subscribing to the whole virginity thing.
I think it's like way blown out.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Of perform so like you gave it to someone and
like somehow they have elite status or what. Yeah, I
think because you don't know what you You don't know
when you're young, right and arguably losing your virginity, you
don't know what could come later on.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
And also it's talked about differently for girl it used
to be at least for millennial girls. Like for girls
and boys, I feel like it's talked about differently.
Speaker 6 (34:08):
I feel like your virginity is not this.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Like big prize that you're giving it.
Speaker 6 (34:12):
I don't know. I just don't subscribe to all that.
But but no, I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
I wouldn't change it. I mean, it's not like it
was amazing. I think it's awkward for people. I think
everyone's figuring it out. But it was someone I loved
I was young, But I don't think it changed the
course of my life in any way, So I don't
really I try not to regret stuff like that, but
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
I would say three quarters truly, And this is no,
this is not an indictment on the women some of them. Yes,
I think we all probably have a few that we
probably could have done without for sure, And I'm sure
that people feel that way about me too. But I
would say, just from a standpoint of like being single
for so long and whatever, three quarters of the sexual
(34:52):
interaction I've had was in retrospect unnecessary because it didn't
advance like it was. It was situational, just did it
was it was. It didn't need to happen in retrospect.
Like I guess, I feel not bad, but it's like
I feel like that less than but it's just like, ah,
I didn't need to do that, like looking back, like
(35:13):
maybe I just I could have skipped it, but I
learned what I Yeah, what about for you? Did you
love the guy you you lost your It was the
money mouse guy.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
No, no, no, no no names. Uh no, he was
the drug dealer boyfriend. So I was a senior in
high school and he was twenty one two, so he
wasn't in high school anymore. Well, yeah, I dropped out,
so he really wasn't in high school anymore. But he
had his GD, so we're good. Yeah, shot out shout
out to his GD. Yeah he went to night school
all that, but No, he DJed my prom so like
(35:43):
it was him and his two friends.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
We had a little DJ group.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
Yeah, but no, that was I had lost my virginity
maybe like two weeks before prom so I was a
senior about to turn eighteen because my birthdays in June.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (35:56):
May, No, I don't regret it. It was my first boyfriend. No,
I mean he's just there, you know, living his life.
Speaker 6 (36:02):
Yeah, we're all just sating home about just you know.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (36:05):
Yeah, it just it hurts really mad for us.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
So imagine, Yeah, no one knows what they're doing, right,
No one.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Yeah. I just I wonder, I guess I wonder if
if I mean, like a lot of things, like I
would argue that alcohol is not as prevalent with much
younger people now as it once was. In fact, I
would even say, and maybe because it's an exchange of
not addiction, but exchange of behavior, Like I would rather
get high than get drunk a lot of people, And
(36:32):
I think that's a real thing. And I think friends
of mine, their own bars are seeing that. It's like, yeah,
but so I wonder, you know, and is alcohol going
to be as much of a factor or is it
going to be other things? As you know, young people
grow up, because again for us, it was weed was
illegal and people still smoked it, but like, if you
got caught with it, it was a real problem. It
(36:54):
was a drug. You were a druggie if you smoked
weed when we were growing up, and so everyone kind
of just drank and that was as bad as it got.
And I feel like now you got a whole different,
all different level of peril. You've got alcohol, you got drugs.
You've got drugs that aren't the drugs you think you're doing,
you know, that are cut with dangerous shit. You've got
(37:14):
all the technology, be it revenge porn and these websites
and texting and sharing photos, and the way that people
can manif like we're talking about in this podcast, the
way people can manifest their dismay about or say things
terrible things about you anonymously and embarrass you and all this.
I mean, there's just it. It's so different that I
(37:35):
guess I don't blame some people for being like, if
I don't put myself out there in that way, if
I don't put myself in that position, it will never
happen to me, whether it would happen to you or not.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Yeah, I think their phones are the addiction that they're
going to have to work with.
Speaker 6 (37:49):
I mean it.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Doctors have said it hits like any other addiction, and
I think that, I really think it's a problem that
we give people these devices when their brain isn't even formed.
Speaker 6 (37:59):
They shouldn't.
Speaker 8 (37:59):
They don't need a platform at that age.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
In my opinion, you're not You're not your frontal lobe
is not there till twenty five, and you're you're making
an imprint on the world that never goes away.
Speaker 8 (38:09):
You're addicted to the validation. I mean, it's a real problem.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
I think I said either off the air, on the
air in the room, or on that I don't know where,
I said, I have no noise.
Speaker 6 (38:17):
Said it somewhere, I.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Said, somewhere, but at an executive in our company a
couple of weeks ago said to me, and it sounded
dramatic when he said it, but it really has stuck
with me. He was like, I think that we're going
to look at giving kids cell phones the same way
that we look at like young people smoking. Not that
we ever gave kids cigarettes, but like we're like everyone's like,
oh my god, cigarettes like the instant killer. Like, you know,
(38:40):
it so terrible, so bad. I think we're going to
look at it phones. He thinks we're going to look
at phones the same way in twenty years, like why
did we give kids' phones? Like why do we make
that accessible? Like it really fucked up people's brains.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Oh, our bodies are changing, like our bodies are evolving
to have.
Speaker 5 (38:56):
Tech nak dude. Literally, Hobby's like, you got a lump
in your necker? He calls it a and like he's
not wrong, Like I'm starting to be same, So I
have to stand like this whole day.
Speaker 6 (39:05):
Yeah, yeah, it's I don't know.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
But they are drinking last my sister and her friends
are barely drinking. I'm like, back in my day, right,
I wouldn't drink anything, Like what are we doing?
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Oh god, there's a lot of drinking in my twenties.
Speaker 8 (39:18):
Right, And they're like like one of her friends is like,
I don't want to waste the calories. I'm like, wow,
good for.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
You, like literally starved to just drink.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Yeah, and then throw up usually like my friends would
when they wouldn't eat.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
But yeah, yeah, well I guess I'll close my USA
today now and then wait for tomorrow open. I can't
wait till it shows up again my USA Today. My
mom used to subscribe to that when I was a kid,
that like was delivered to the house. I feel like
it was the People magazine of news. It was like
color and it was bright, and it was like everything
(39:51):
was kind of surmised, like it was all sort of synopsis,
Like it was very easy to read, Like if you
read the front page of the USA today, I remember
like you kind of knew what was going on. You
only had to read the front page because it was like, Okay,
here are the sports scores, and here's the weather, and
here's the thing. And I just remember every morning it
was like it was there. I don't even know if
you can still get it. Does it still exist in
payper form? I have no idea anyway, Well, thanks for
(40:14):
listening to the Tangent. Make us a preset. That's my
that's my corporate message. I'm just a company guy. Make
us a preset of the free and easy to use. iHeartRadio.
Ab huh. Have a good day.
Should we do a tane A little tane hit the
(00:03):
intro bellahameine. It's the tangent giving you all this shit
we couldn't talk about on the air. You guys am
obsessed with this song. I'm obsessed with it. I'm obsessed
with it, Okay, I don't I don't know. I woke
up Saturday and so the trend is on TikTok is
that people are dancing to this song. And I guess
(00:24):
it started in Brazil. And my understanding is that this
is an actual song from the eighties that somebody put
through an AI filter and it was already like a
funk song, but then they put it through an AI
filter and they made it even funkier. I don't know,
and someone, you're welcome to hit me up on my
socials and tell me if I got this all wrong,
because it's hard to believe this is a real song.
(00:45):
But we don't know what they're saying because it's in Portuguese.
But you cannot tell me if you didn't know what
they were saying. This is a bop. You don't like it,
Jason likes it.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I love it for you guys, Yeah, I didn't know
you were such like a disco queen.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I like a little funky, I like a little one
of the things. They just listen there, you'll like something
like how can you be upset about? When this comes up?
Just wait for the hooked up shut So I hell
(01:29):
on now, hell two? That's all I know. There's a
whole dance to it too, and people are doing it
on TikTok and then they're playing the song for their
parents or friends or grandparents who speak Portuguese, and like
(01:49):
everyone sind of starts out with like a big smile
on their life and then they hear the words. So
let me translate this for you, please, okay, now again,
if you know the history of this, I tried to
figure it out. I tried to look it up a pair.
This is a real eighties song, but it's called the
Frog Predator. I guess it's how it translates. Except I
think frog is and someone else can tell me this.
(02:11):
I'm pretty sure frog is slaying for pussy. Oh that's
that's my understanding. Again. I don't speak Portuguese, so I
could be wrong. But you heard that that that delightful song,
that that delight like if I played that for my
mom she would be like so excited, like because it's
like Bruno Mars.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Brute Mars does sound like the Portuguese Bruno Mars.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Yeah, so I I here allegedly, here are the lyrics.
The smile of this princess is spectacular. It's impressive when
I drag her into the fight. So far, okay, she
doesn't call her friends because she can handle it alone.
She sits for three and then sucks for and the
(02:54):
and the chorus goes, me you us, we put it
on her. The gang has arrived? Were the pussy predators.
I don't think that spank the pussy, share the pussy
go sit hard for the boys from the slum, then me,
you us, we put it on her. The gang has arrived.
(03:17):
Were the pussy predators. We say that several times, so
I mean it really wants you. I just played did
I just played two Tailors songs in a row?
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Did I as you should?
Speaker 5 (03:29):
You might have not, but someone else might as you should,
depending if we threw it into pussy predators.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
You know, she doesn't know to look and see. I'm
just I know this is the tangent, but I'm now
we're handling business, so can we can we make sure
to teach her to belahamine to go look and make
sure we don't play the same.
Speaker 6 (03:47):
Song were they Was it the same song?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
God no no, you say God no down before you know?
Speaker 4 (03:55):
I mean, they would also be okay, I.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Mean for a little while, she want it for my
I'm not going to get into the technical because no
one cares. But for a little while we because some
songs that are being played we don't hear in the
studio here. So for a while she was actually just
playing songs she liked, which is not how that works. Unfortunately,
if we were playing songs that we all liked, we
would either have ratings or half the or none none
(04:19):
of the ratings. I don't I don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
I wouldn't play any of this anyway.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
So this song continues to talk about how much she
can handle and and how the gang is here. It's
like a it's a song about Bonnie Blue is what
it is. It's beautiful, but I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
If she's if she's consenting, it sounds like she's a
real she got a lot of stamina.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Yeah, I mean, what I'm wondering is is this just
sort of the Portuguese version of La Shona, you know
who allegedly laed Shona was a woman of the Knight
who was very well respected. If I understand the history
of La Shona correctly, then I she was a well
respected lady of this of the city.
Speaker 6 (04:58):
It's I mean, it's giving lich it.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Is well, yeah, but I think they're a little more
uh kinder with.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Well, yeah, they just have nice things to say about her,
But then I get throwing bottles at her.
Speaker 6 (05:07):
Yeah, are they screaming and yelling?
Speaker 1 (05:10):
But I would agree if if this woman is into
what's happening, like if she is in fact Bonnie Blue
and like you know, reincarnated or Bonnie Blue is her
and she's asking for this, well that's quite the feat. Yeah,
she's she's here for the challenge and she won't be stopped.
So there's an article in USA Today this morning about
how because you know I read USA Today, it's part
(05:32):
of my perusal USA Today. Well, I'm big into the
Wall Street Journal. In fact, we're about to add a
financial minute to the program finally, you know where I
tell you what stocks about? It help us because a
lot of people, a lot of people would like to
know what stocks I'm buying Yeah, I don't even know
what stocks I'm buying, so it doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
I haven't even buy stocks. I don't even know.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
At the stock market, stock store, we go to the
stock market. You I'll take three. Yeah, you go over there?
Speaker 4 (05:59):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Hey, everybody, you go to the place on Roosevelt. Not Roosevelt.
What's what should what's the Oh god, what's the name
of his treat I'm thinking of it's south Loop. It's
not Roosevelt, but it's to get under the post office there. Congress, Congress, Congress,
and they got the stock market.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
You're just roll up in air the Columbus and Congress, the.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Board of Trade. You just walk up their trade something.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Low ki, I think hot take those are a scam?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
You think stocks are a scam. I think a lot
of people would disagree. I think a lot of rich
people would disagree with you about that.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
I know you're buying nothing, No, but you are.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
You're buying a piece of accomfortable. I don't understand that
you don't need to buy something tangible to make money.
I guess not doesn't exist. And look at all the
money people bought on midim bitcoin.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
I just don't get it.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
However, back to my USA today perusal, people are holding
their virginity for a longer period of time, hanging onto
their virginity, and people are having less sex today than
I guess they've had in previous times. The twenty twenty
three Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Youth Risk Behavior,
I don't know what that is. Study, I guess found
adolescent sexual behavior declined since twenty thirteen. A twenty twenty
(07:15):
two survey from the Kinsey Institute found that one in
four gen Z adults say they've never experienced partnered sex
one in four gen Z. So is gen Z as
modest as people might think. One journalist for The Guardian
digs into that question in her new book called The
Second Coming, which explores gen Z's sex life or lack thereof.
(07:38):
This author found through interviews with more than one hundred
young people that the generational dry spell is less puritanical
and more political, with gen Z as abstaining from sex
for a variety of complex reasons. Gen Z is sometimes
framed as a nation of virgins, which is something that's
never has been said about me since I was twenty one.
(07:58):
But our obsession with the lack of intercourse may really
say more about our constant need to tell young people
how to have sex, rather than corrective. She argues, I okay, really,
but yeah, so it turns out I think some of
us has to do with Roe versus Wade. I guess
sexual conservativism it's a movement to make it dangerous to
(08:22):
have queer, unmarried or recreational sex. Sexual conservatism has done
a much better job of speaking about the difficulties of
raising a family in this country than progressives. It's very
appealing for young people to go towards sexual conservativism because
the only people that you're talking about are okay, so politics,
(08:43):
How does only fans fit into it? It becomes another
metric whereby people evaluate themselves and make themselves also appear.
That way for young people to line between real life
and virtual sex is very much diminishing and blurring. So
I don't know. Here's my thing. If you had it
to do over again, would you have waited longer to
have sex?
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Yes, yes, I would have.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I mean I waited some time, so there were you know,
there wasn't much time left for me. Actually, yeah, to
wait to have say, I waited a very long I
don't think I waited on purpose. It was more of
a matter of.
Speaker 6 (09:19):
You had a purity ring.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Well I did. I was. I'm actually the bonus Bonus Jonas. Yeah,
a lot of people don't know this, but I'm a
cousin of the Jonas brothers, and I, you know, sort
of aligned with them even though they were not pure.
I don't think I think they were wearing the rings.
I think they were still fucking But no. But I
went to school with basically the same I mean, I
graduated with forty four people, and of those, I bet
(09:44):
you you know, three quarters were girls. And of those girls,
I knew them since most of them since kindergarten. So
I feel like, you know, as far as high school
was concerned, there was no variety. And then I ventured
out to other schools and there were some. There were
some shenanigans, like seventy prom I did. There was. I've
said to some million times my parents were extremely effective
(10:04):
at at making me aware of the potential consequences of
getting someone pregnant. Girl and aids age was like a
real thing. Maybe not in my community per se, but
you know, it was. It was STDs, no cure, no
curable as like like you know herpes age, you get
that your age, You're going to die is what I
(10:26):
think people thought growing up, and I think in the
eighties it was true. And before that was true, I've
you got aides full blown age, you were probably going
to die. Now that's not true. You might live your
whole life. But I think it was that, and I
think it was my parents were like, hey, fuck around,
find out man, go ahead and get somebody pregnant, and
your life is ruined. Now that's not true, but I
mean it certainly would have derailed things. You know, I
(10:49):
think people who get pregnant when they're fourteen, fifteen, sixteen,
in high school or whatever, I think they probably would
They make it work, but it certainly changes the plan.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Right, it's got to be so hard, and so I
think my.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Parents were effective in sort of saying, hey, man, like
think about that, and that plus kind of a lack
of variety. But then I got to college and they
were like thousands of girls, and then shit started to
go down because it was like, I don't know, if
I mean think about that, think about if your high
school only consisted of thirty girls, like you're classed. I
(11:23):
guess times. So there were one hundred girls or something
one hundred and twenty girls in the entire high school.
I mean think about think about that, Like, you've got
some that were totally not going to be your type,
some that were like really your type, and then a
lot of people in the middle. But most high schools
have four thousand people or something, you know, between two
and four thousand people in the high school, So we're
talking about thousands of people. I think you're more likely
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to find someone who's more aligned with you and maybe
have a crush in the little relationship and then maybe
fuck I was I never had a girlfriend really, so
like there was no I don't know, it would have
been casual, which wasn't as much of a thing. I
don't know. What about you, Jason, Like, well you thirteen.
Speaker 7 (12:01):
There, Yeah, oh no, I was fifteen, but there were
only like ninety kids in each of our grades, so
like it's kind of similar.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
But most of the people that I hooked up with then.
Speaker 7 (12:16):
Were not from my school. They were just people that
lived around me. Okay, so that's probably where the difference lies.
But I would definitely have weighted because I feel like
as I got older, I realized a lot more about
you know.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
And we've talked about this before, but like you start,
you lost your virginity to a woman, yes, and how
many women before you had sex with a man?
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Four? And the whole time were you like I don't
really like.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
I'm I'm not wait, I think it's fine.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
I'm not devaluing these women at all. But like, were
you doing this because it was like, well, this is
what I'm supposed to do? Or are you doing it
because you wanted to? I mean you wanted to.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
I wanted to. I did. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (13:00):
I think it was a mixture of like it's what
I was supposed to do and it's what I thought
I should be doing. And I guess I'll like figure
all that else out later because there's a lot of stuff.
I got a process. I'm not thinking about that right now. Yeah,
I think it was like a mixture of everything.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
And then what if you know, you don't have to
answer this, what do you on a spot? But like
what was the deciding factor for the first guy? Like
how did that come about? And how did you decide
like we're gonna do that Craigslist? So one day you
were just like yeah, okay, so how does this happen though,
Like you find this, I'm genuinely very curious. So like
you're just sitting there one day and you're like, no,
(13:34):
you know what, I really want to know what that's like.
So you just went to Craigslist.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
I think you start like learning stuff, you know, like
I didn't. It was unaccessible to me.
Speaker 7 (13:42):
There were no other gay people in my school, or
I was not surrounded by gay people in my neighborhood
like I was. There were, right, I didn't, so they
weren't a resource to like show me how to do
things right. So you start learning little tidbits or what
to do or whatever. And then yeah, it was like,
oh this popped up. I'm like, yeah, why not, let's
try it. And then that was my first relationship.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
So you you responded to an add on craigslistor you okay,
and you remember what they get to say.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
I don't remember.
Speaker 7 (14:14):
There were so many like you could go to a
whole section of like men looking for men female like
it was like a dating that was like the og
like dating site was crazy.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
You ended up dating weird.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Yeah, it was my first relationship.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Do you remember meet him in a parking lot somewhere in.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
The back of I don't know how specific when I
got his.
Speaker 7 (14:31):
Family had a business and it was after hours in
the back of the business.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Okay, how much chatting was there before you guys met? Oh?
Speaker 7 (14:41):
Oh, before we met a lot, Like I remember like
texting back and forth.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
So you show up and then because I've learned a
lot over the years from you and other people kind
of about the culture, and it's it can be very
different than straight culture in that it can be extremely transactional.
Speaker 7 (14:58):
Yeah, I feel like in in the gay culture, probably
to the benefit of us, there's a lot of times
where both parties are in it transactionally, whereas I feel
like in straight culture with you guys, that might be
the guys are just the girls are like looking for
a relationship right.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Interesting because like you know, whether it's these guess whether
it's the way people talk or these apps you know,
t app or whether it's you know, are we getting
the same guy or whatever you're starting to see like
in a public forum that men and look, there are
some gross guys on these like straight guys on these apps.
But it's like it's like if I'm looking for something
(15:40):
casual and I say that and I say it to
the wrong girl that I'm an asshole, like I'm a
bad guy, but it doesn't that doesn't exist in it, Like,
for example, I I don't feel bad about being transparent,
especially when you've got people out there who are they're
just trying to get laid, but then they'll tell a
girl that they want to be with her just to
get laid, and then they and then they drop off.
(16:01):
Like I guess I don't understand that difference, and maybe
it's just the way. And I hate to be the
guy that says the way that man and women think,
because I know that there are exceptions, but it's like,
why is it that in gay culture it can be like, hey,
let's just do this and have fun and be happy
and then and then there's like no one's And if
if I ask you for that and you don't want
to do it and you say no, you're not a
bad person. I just don't want to do it with you.
(16:23):
But it's like, why is it that you know these
women are on there going now, fuck fuck this guy.
All he wanted to do is bang me. It's like, okay,
did he was he that clear about it? Because if
he was, and that's not for you, then all you
have to do is say unmatch or block or I
don't know why that you know. I guess it's like
did he lie to you about it? Did he did
(16:44):
he cheat? Is he a predator? Did he steal from you?
Did he give you a disease? I mean, like, is
there some factor out here in the straight world that
women need to be aware of this man for their safety?
I'm all for that, But on the flip side, it's
like I've wound up on these things before because it
was like I and it's something casual and I asked
for it and the person said no, And now it's
what a fucking asshole, And it's like, why right, if
(17:08):
it's not for you, it's not for you. But I
guess I would much rather than a woman because it's
happened the other way too, by the way, and I
think that's something that seems to be forgotten here. Is
like I get ghosted and I've had people say hey,
can we fuck you know in so many terms, and
then if I start to like them, it's like, no,
I told you. I don't think you're a bitch for that.
(17:29):
I don't think you're a bad person. I think you're
asking for what you want and doing it, and if
I want something else or my expectations are different and
you can't deliver. You didn't lie to me, you asked,
you know what I mean, And you didn't send me
a picture of your dick you want gross, So I
guess I don't understand. Like that's a very strange thing
for me.
Speaker 7 (17:46):
Yeah, it's such a dichotomy. I think it's so funny
because like if you're just meeting someone on I mean
probably the biggest gap is Grinder, right, if you're meeting
on there or any of them, really, it's understood that
like you just trying to and like if anything deviates
from that, like that's spoken about from the jump. But
(18:06):
it's so weird that like it's that's just the understanding, right,
you know. But like in your with you guys, it's good.
It's the complete opposite.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Now, if you do that to the wrong person, which
is a lot of people that aren't looking for that,
then not only are you is it not for them,
but it's also let's go anonymously roast you for wanting
that with your face and picture attached to it. It's like,
and again I don't know if I'm I'm sure I'm
on the tyet, but I don't know about the I've
shown up on the other ones, and it's just like,
but why what did I do that was? I mean,
(18:36):
I get it wasn't for you and you didn't like it,
and I'm sorry, but like, it's not as though you
said no and then I showed up at your work,
you know, or like you know what I mean, I
wouldn't leave you. It's like, I don't know. I mean, I
feel like there are men and women out there they're
asking for what they want and then sometimes they get shunned,
and then it's almost like, well, now I don't know
what I'm I don't know what I'm supposed to. I
guess I'm I'm just not going to do anything anymore
(18:57):
because I don't I don't really feel like being made
fun of for being respectfully direct. And by the way,
that was years ago. Now I'm looking I would be
looking for more of a partnership, but apparently I can't
find that because if a girl saw me on are
we dating the same guy? Which I've never cheated before ever,
then I'm a bad guy. Because three years ago I
(19:17):
asked a girl if she wanted to fuck around. It's
it's very strip but in the gay community, it's that's
that doesn't really exist. Like yeah, it's just totally different
the you know what, what people see as normal or abnormal.
Speaker 7 (19:30):
Yeah, I mean, I I mean the first time I
met Mike, I'm pretty sure. I mean we're both I'll
be honest, we probably were both and like, oh, we're
just here to hook up, right, like that's whatever. Of
course I ended up catching feelings because I'll fall for anyone,
and then like I somehow it was a long road,
but like converted him to like want to be committed,
you know, but like that doesn't happen. Like that's very yeah,
(19:53):
And it's so weird because I feel like there is
no standard way of like getting into a gay relationship.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Either has to like he upen like that or like camping.
Speaker 7 (20:02):
Yeah, the jewels in the front after you go to jewels, Yeah,
at jewels, Like I don't, I don't know. It's very
It's hard because you know you're going in thinking that
you're just there for one thing and then you could
change it.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
My best friend is like he loves love Jonathan and
he met his boyfriend on his dating app, and like
he always would would you know, tell me what you're saying,
And it's just it's so hard, and he's like people
just want to either hook up or like it's just
a bunch of dudes that are like just low key grindy,
like they're just you know a lot of them.
Speaker 7 (20:33):
Are closet ed, you know, you know some of them
are around so sad. Yeah, or you just want to
be a huh.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Yeah, he didn't want that though, That's what I'm saying.
He didn't want that.
Speaker 7 (20:41):
Like it's hard for people that don't want that, because
it's like where do I find different way a pool
of people that want to be in a relationship, Like
they don't exist, you know, like you're not gonna find
them that steam works.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
You know, just stating is hard for no matter what
you're right.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
I have to say though, I'm on those sites and
usually if people post something like benign is that, girls
will literally say like that doesn't sound like an issue.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
There are there are rules on those pages.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
The posts get taken down, like if you're not doing
something really diabolical, you're not getting called sites.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Yeah, I mean, I think the t app's gotten kind
of etic I don't.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
Yeah, I just have the arm dating the same guy.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
It's basically, you can red flag a picture in a
name of anyone and then anonymously write anything that you
want and whatever. I mean again, like I'm it's part
of the deal. I guess, I get. I don't really
understand it because you don't have to put your name
on it. And as we've learned from the Internet and
(21:36):
in this in this profession, people can say whatever the
fuck they want it and it's just true, I guess,
because a lot of times the people involved don't get
to respond, so it's like, you know whatever. But it's
interesting to me because if my understanding was the purpose
of all of this stuff is safety, and if that's
the case, I am one hundred percent all for it.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Safety And before a lot of people before they commit
to someone, go all right, ladies, I'm about to commit
to this dude.
Speaker 6 (22:02):
Is anyone else seeing him?
Speaker 2 (22:03):
And sadly, more often than not, other people are like actively.
Speaker 6 (22:08):
Actively seeing them. Yeah, that's a bummer.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Also, how sad that we need to, like before we
go exclusive with someone that we need to ask, but
we do.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
But I gotta be honest, and I don't mean to
flip this, but like I have talked, I've gone on
dates with and talked to women for weeks and thought
we were working towards something and gotten a phone call
or either gotten ghosted or going to text Hey, I've
decided to go. I've decided to commit to someone else.
I'm not going to go to a message board and
rip that woman a new asshole and colors, because because unfortunately,
(22:38):
there is risk to dating, Like unfortunately, in putting yourself
out there, there's the opportunity that someone's not going to
treat you the way that you want to be treated
and that sucks. But that's not exclusive. And again there
are some gross guys out there and and but I
mean gross like unsolicited you know, pictures and really graphic
(23:01):
things and then finding you places and then showing up places.
And I'm not talking about a guy that's like, hey
want to fuck if you if that if that is gross,
unmatched next.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
Yeah, even that wouldn't make it out.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I'm telling you, it seems like it's that because you're
not on there, but like people will.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
Call you out.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Well, I did make it on there once for that,
and I got the screenshots and then I went away.
They took it off. Yeah, they take it. At first,
I was so upset about it because I'm like, well,
this is not great, Like this is not sending out
I don't want my name attached to whatever. But then
I'm reading through the comments and I'm like, first of all,
some of these people I know, some of these people
I did date. Some of these people I've never met,
(23:37):
and they claim they went on a date with me.
Some of these people are telling the exact opposite of
the actual thing that happened. And I have all the receipts.
But what am I gonna do? Like, I'm not going
to go on the message board and can and contribute
to the toxicity. But I also some of it, I
some of it's true, Like oh, he asked me for nudes. Yeah,
we chatted for a couple of months and went on
a date and I asked you for news. You're damn right,
(23:58):
I absolutely did that. Like, No, that's I don't think
that's I don't what do you mean.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
No, I'm just not sending news. You didn't ask me,
But I'm not.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Sending you've never in your life.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
No, we had this talk. You and I have never
done this before.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
You're not. I haven't either. No one on earth has
a picture, no better one. I don't think Dick's are
good looking. I do well, okay, but I'm not going
out like that. I'm just not going out.
Speaker 7 (24:24):
I'm not going out like I would never send one
to nu get one in return, Like I feel so.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Like vulnerable, like.
Speaker 8 (24:34):
I'm out here naked, don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
It's just dating is tough, and it's it's hard on
the apps when it's a numbers game to really to
dial in who to invest in and who not to
invest in, and who's looking for what and the other thing.
I also have kind of a I have kind of
a I don't know, a dry sense of humor. I
also kind of like to test people. I like to
see where my limits are and I like to see
how you and I'm not being disgusting, but like I
(24:58):
don't know, i' I like to see, like can we banter?
Like do you you know? Or are you gonna shut
me down immediately when it goes someplace you don't want
to go, Like you can just say no, I don't
want to talk about that, or I'm not interested. But
that's what I'm looking for, Like are you boundaried. Are
you rigid or can you go with the flow, because
I don't think you can date me if you can't
go with the flow. The other thing I cannot stand
(25:20):
is well, he only dates for content. I've heard that
one a million times. Years ago. I talked a lot
more about dating on the air. I never, one time
ever did or would identify anyone by any form of
feature or name or place a bit. There's no way
that anybody would ever know who I was talking about
unless you told them that I was talking about you.
(25:41):
And even then, the stories usually were the joke was
on me, like I was the dipshit in the story.
It was I'm not going out dating people trying to
embarrass you. It's absolutely not my game. It never hasn't.
But I kind of stopped talking about dating because I
don't think it was I put this on me. I
don't think it was coming off the right way.
Speaker 8 (25:59):
I wish you wouldst talking about it again.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
I got kind of roasted for it, and it's like,
it's just not worth it. It's not worth it because
I don't want people to think that I am dating
for content. That being said, my whole life is content,
and that is no secret. Like everybody before we meet,
it's this is what I do, you know, And but
then here's the thing. But you can go on a
message board with my face and my name and say
(26:24):
whatever you want anonymously. That's far worse than me talking anonymously,
you know, in vague terms about a date that I
went on with somebody who you know, it's it either
I did something stupid or it didn't go well. So
it's kind of hypocritical in some ways, but I get it.
There are lots of people out there who I mean
to go, hey, I don't want to be talked about
on the radio, No problem, no problem, They're.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
Just not for you.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Then I think, like, you can't be dating someone who
one hundred percent is not okay with that. Unfortunately, it's
hard to find, but it exists, and I just don't
think that would work.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
So, I mean, I get it. I get that there
are people who are fed up with some of the
book shit and it's a waste of their time and
they feel I get all. I understand the frustration. I
also understand there's a lot of bad stuff out there.
You know, there are people scamming, there are people stealing,
there are people stalking, There are people cheating, there are
people you know, committing essay, there are I mean there,
(27:17):
it is out there, and I am all for calling
those people out, but I do sometimes think that some
of the just the normal stuff that just kind of
sucks about dating gets grouped in there. And again it's
not a feel bad for me thing, but it's like
I've never one time thought I'm going to go to
a message board to let everybody know that I really
liked this girl and she didn't like me back, Like
(27:38):
that's you know what I mean, Or that I went
on a couple of dates with a girl and then
she goes to me because she was going on dates
with other people because that's what you do on the apps,
and she likes somebody else better. That fucking sucks when
that happens. Yeah, but that's dating, right, Like.
Speaker 6 (27:55):
Wrong, I'm telling you.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
The posts aren't like that, Like they they're not like
somebody didn't text me back, everybody roast him. People will
call you out in two seconds. Good, no, yeah, good,
they police it really well.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
I'm just saying, well, I told you year two or
three years ago, I had that one experience and it
was simply let's roast Fred. And it was by the way,
oh Christopher, Yeah he's Fred from the radio, and blah
blah blah blah blah, and here's all this bad shit.
And I was like, and I was going through this
something I don't know half of these people. And then
what was funny is some people started to stepping in, going,
actually I like that guy, Like he's okay, And even
(28:26):
people I went out with, we're like, I went out
him a couple of times. I mean he's fine, Like
it didn't work out. Whatever it's but you're right. I mean,
if you're on there with the intents of protecting yourself,
then that's that sucks that. But I think the t
app has been a little more gossipy and I'm.
Speaker 6 (28:42):
I can't speak on yeah, yeah, I can't.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Get on it because but from what I'm hearing, that's
a little bit more like roast fest. But what's funny is, uh,
some four Chan hacked it last week and and you
have to, I guess, submit your ID to get an
anonymous account, and you have to be very to get in.
And four Chan hacked it and they have everybody's ID
who's on it. And I don't think they can make
(29:05):
four chant it's a hacker group. Like a hacker gang,
you can't. I don't think they can associate who's on
it with the comments. But I suppose if there are
people on there saying things about you, and you have
access to see who has accounts, I think it wouldn't
be too much of a leap to find figure out
who's talking about you. And apparently now they're a lawyer
specializing in subpoenating the tee app to get the IP
(29:28):
addresses of the people who are writing so that they
can find out who did it and they can suit
for defamation.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
Good.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
I mean, if you're if you're lying on someone, then
you shouldn't you're abusing it, or.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
If you're just gossiping, right, because again, like if guys
were doing and I guess they're there's well, there is
a response app to the t app. It's called box score.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Okay, And I'm not on that either. As much as
I would love to see what people are saying, I
don't want to be involved with it. I don't even
want to have an account because I don't agree with it,
Like I don't think it's cool.
Speaker 6 (30:01):
Yeah, people are.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Gonna dick you over. In dating, people are gonna be stupid,
They're gonna be gross and not gonna like you. It
happens all the time.
Speaker 8 (30:08):
So this tea app I did, I just started hearing
about it.
Speaker 6 (30:11):
Is it new?
Speaker 2 (30:12):
So you're saying that like people are more like it's
more of like a gossip thing like those old like websites.
Speaker 6 (30:16):
Gosh, what were they?
Speaker 3 (30:17):
There was almost a dirty, dirty someone with an age,
wasn't it.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
No?
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Okay, I don't know, there's there have been even in
college there was a juicy campus where people would just
talk shit those Yeah, I don't agree.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
But again my understanding was the tea app was formed
for safety.
Speaker 8 (30:36):
Okay, sounds like they're not monitoring it as well.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
I think it's exploded kind of. And again I'm not
I'm not on it. I've not seen it knowing. You know,
typically when I show up on this stuff, somebody sees
it and sends me the screenshot even though you're not
supposed to. And it's fine whatever, Like I ask for
some of this, right, Like, I'm putting myself out there.
In the past, I've been very transparent about what I'm
looking for, and I I guess that's not for these people.
But I guess I also don't. It's not criminal, like,
(30:59):
it's not. If it's not for you, then just unmatch me,
just stop talking. They say, Hey, this isn't for me,
no problem. Like now again, if I'm like, you don't,
fucking bitch, well fuck me, like you know what I mean? Like,
then I'm an asshole for that. But I don't know.
It's you don't have to love it. But unfortunately, I
think that's the culture and it's happening on both sides.
I don't assume anyone I meet on a dating app
(31:21):
is only talking to me. Why would I assume that? Yeah,
And why would I assume that because we're talking on
an app means that we're absolutely going to meet and
that we're absolutely going to hit it off, and that
the person's going to fall in love with me and
I'm going to have a complete and total control over
that situation. That is an unfair expectation, as a totally
unreasonable expectation. Guys shouldn't have it. Girls shouldn't have it. Yea,
(31:41):
And again I'll say it for the fifth time for
anyone listening. I do know that there are gross men,
and if they are infringing upon your privacy or safety.
Call them out.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
I hate that that's making you like cool off on
dating though.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Oh yeah, I've been off the dating apps for six months.
I want nothing to do with Oh yeah, I want
nothing to do with I don't want anything to do
with it. It's unfortunately, it's too much. It's I'm yeah,
you know, And again, what I want now is different
than what I wanted two years ago or five years ago.
And I've wanted different things in the last decade, right, Like,
sometimes I just want something casual. Sometimes I want a
(32:19):
partnership something. But like God forbid, somebody with whom I
wanted to hook up and they didn't want to hook
up goes on a thing and then someone now who
I might want a date sees me on there and
is like, oh, he's an asshole. I am like, I
don't know. I mean, there are people I don't that's
kind of crazy, right, I mean people have a right
to evolve and change and want different things from different
(32:41):
people too. That part, Yeah, I mean what you may
have wanted before you met Hovey and then what you
what you wanted when you met Hovey. And I'm not
I'm just using. You come looking at you, but like
the guy you met before Hovey, you may have just
wanted to bang. And then you meet Hovey and you're like, no,
this guy, this is different, this feels different. I want
something different. I'm really going to like focus on something
more healthy. And then you did, and then and I'm
(33:04):
making this scenario up, and then you look, you're married
with a kid and you're happy. So I don't know.
I mean, I could be hooking up with someone and
then meet someone and be like, wow, this this feels
different to me and then pursue that in a different way.
Like it's very possible. Now, if I'm a criminal or
a scammer, I'm unlikely to change, probably right, And I'm
looking for money or to use people or whatever.
Speaker 6 (33:24):
But yeah, humans are flawed.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
We have to let people grow and change and evolve, absolutely,
you know, in every facet of life, even the scammers.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Back to the virginity thing though, if you guys, could
you had you lost your virginity to a guy you loved, Yeah,
so you probably wouldn't change that.
Speaker 6 (33:40):
I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
I Also, you know, I'm not big on the whole
like virginity. I'm not subscribing to the whole virginity thing.
I think it's like way blown out.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Of perform so like you gave it to someone and
like somehow they have elite status or what. Yeah, I
think because you don't know what you You don't know
when you're young, right and arguably losing your virginity, you
don't know what could come later on.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
And also it's talked about differently for girl it used
to be at least for millennial girls. Like for girls
and boys, I feel like it's talked about differently.
Speaker 6 (34:08):
I feel like your virginity is not this.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Like big prize that you're giving it.
Speaker 6 (34:12):
I don't know. I just don't subscribe to all that.
But but no, I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
I wouldn't change it. I mean, it's not like it
was amazing. I think it's awkward for people. I think
everyone's figuring it out. But it was someone I loved
I was young, But I don't think it changed the
course of my life in any way, So I don't
really I try not to regret stuff like that, but
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
I would say three quarters truly, And this is no,
this is not an indictment on the women some of them. Yes,
I think we all probably have a few that we
probably could have done without for sure, And I'm sure
that people feel that way about me too. But I
would say, just from a standpoint of like being single
for so long and whatever, three quarters of the sexual
(34:52):
interaction I've had was in retrospect unnecessary because it didn't
advance like it was. It was situational, just did it
was it was. It didn't need to happen in retrospect.
Like I guess, I feel not bad, but it's like
I feel like that less than but it's just like, ah,
I didn't need to do that, like looking back, like
(35:13):
maybe I just I could have skipped it, but I
learned what I Yeah, what about for you? Did you
love the guy you you lost your It was the
money mouse guy.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
No, no, no, no no names. Uh no, he was
the drug dealer boyfriend. So I was a senior in
high school and he was twenty one two, so he
wasn't in high school anymore. Well, yeah, I dropped out,
so he really wasn't in high school anymore. But he
had his GD, so we're good. Yeah, shot out shout
out to his GD. Yeah he went to night school
all that, but No, he DJed my prom so like
(35:43):
it was him and his two friends.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
We had a little DJ group.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
Yeah, but no, that was I had lost my virginity
maybe like two weeks before prom so I was a
senior about to turn eighteen because my birthdays in June.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (35:56):
May, No, I don't regret it. It was my first boyfriend. No,
I mean he's just there, you know, living his life.
Speaker 6 (36:02):
Yeah, we're all just sating home about just you know.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (36:05):
Yeah, it just it hurts really mad for us.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
So imagine, Yeah, no one knows what they're doing, right,
No one.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Yeah. I just I wonder, I guess I wonder if
if I mean, like a lot of things, like I
would argue that alcohol is not as prevalent with much
younger people now as it once was. In fact, I
would even say, and maybe because it's an exchange of
not addiction, but exchange of behavior, Like I would rather
get high than get drunk a lot of people, And
(36:32):
I think that's a real thing. And I think friends
of mine, their own bars are seeing that. It's like, yeah,
but so I wonder, you know, and is alcohol going
to be as much of a factor or is it
going to be other things? As you know, young people
grow up, because again for us, it was weed was
illegal and people still smoked it, but like, if you
got caught with it, it was a real problem. It
(36:54):
was a drug. You were a druggie if you smoked
weed when we were growing up, and so everyone kind
of just drank and that was as bad as it got.
And I feel like now you got a whole different,
all different level of peril. You've got alcohol, you got drugs.
You've got drugs that aren't the drugs you think you're doing,
you know, that are cut with dangerous shit. You've got
(37:14):
all the technology, be it revenge porn and these websites
and texting and sharing photos, and the way that people
can manif like we're talking about in this podcast, the
way people can manifest their dismay about or say things
terrible things about you anonymously and embarrass you and all this.
I mean, there's just it. It's so different that I
(37:35):
guess I don't blame some people for being like, if
I don't put myself out there in that way, if
I don't put myself in that position, it will never
happen to me, whether it would happen to you or not.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Yeah, I think their phones are the addiction that they're
going to have to work with.
Speaker 6 (37:49):
I mean it.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Doctors have said it hits like any other addiction, and
I think that, I really think it's a problem that
we give people these devices when their brain isn't even formed.
Speaker 6 (37:59):
They shouldn't.
Speaker 8 (37:59):
They don't need a platform at that age.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
In my opinion, you're not You're not your frontal lobe
is not there till twenty five, and you're you're making
an imprint on the world that never goes away.
Speaker 8 (38:09):
You're addicted to the validation. I mean, it's a real problem.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
I think I said either off the air, on the
air in the room, or on that I don't know where,
I said, I have no noise.
Speaker 6 (38:17):
Said it somewhere, I.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Said, somewhere, but at an executive in our company a
couple of weeks ago said to me, and it sounded
dramatic when he said it, but it really has stuck
with me. He was like, I think that we're going
to look at giving kids cell phones the same way
that we look at like young people smoking. Not that
we ever gave kids cigarettes, but like we're like everyone's like,
oh my god, cigarettes like the instant killer. Like, you know,
(38:40):
it so terrible, so bad. I think we're going to
look at it phones. He thinks we're going to look
at phones the same way in twenty years, like why
did we give kids' phones? Like why do we make
that accessible? Like it really fucked up people's brains.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Oh, our bodies are changing, like our bodies are evolving
to have.
Speaker 5 (38:56):
Tech nak dude. Literally, Hobby's like, you got a lump
in your necker? He calls it a and like he's
not wrong, Like I'm starting to be same, So I
have to stand like this whole day.
Speaker 6 (39:05):
Yeah, yeah, it's I don't know.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
But they are drinking last my sister and her friends
are barely drinking. I'm like, back in my day, right,
I wouldn't drink anything, Like what are we doing?
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Oh god, there's a lot of drinking in my twenties.
Speaker 8 (39:18):
Right, And they're like like one of her friends is like,
I don't want to waste the calories. I'm like, wow,
good for.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
You, like literally starved to just drink.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Yeah, and then throw up usually like my friends would
when they wouldn't eat.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
But yeah, yeah, well I guess I'll close my USA
today now and then wait for tomorrow open. I can't
wait till it shows up again my USA Today. My
mom used to subscribe to that when I was a kid,
that like was delivered to the house. I feel like
it was the People magazine of news. It was like
color and it was bright, and it was like everything
(39:51):
was kind of surmised, like it was all sort of synopsis,
Like it was very easy to read, Like if you
read the front page of the USA today, I remember
like you kind of knew what was going on. You
only had to read the front page because it was like, Okay,
here are the sports scores, and here's the weather, and
here's the thing. And I just remember every morning it
was like it was there. I don't even know if
you can still get it. Does it still exist in
payper form? I have no idea anyway, Well, thanks for
(40:14):
listening to the Tangent. Make us a preset. That's my
that's my corporate message. I'm just a company guy. Make
us a preset of the free and easy to use. iHeartRadio.
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