Fred's Issue With Dating

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Let's do a tangent. Shall we? Should we do the tangent?
What the tangent? I mean? You guys act like I'm
the only one that doesn't want to do it.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Jason doesn't either.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
When you can tries.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
Almost every two or three times when we go into
a tangent, everybody goes no, all of you, you too,
you of all people.

Speaker 4 (00:18):
Asking you, and you say no.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
You don't say yes. All right, get the intro. Let's
do it. It's the tangent with the fread show giving
me all we couldn't talk about on air.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
So this is called the tangent. It's our all fair
uncensored podcast. Here it is, guys. I know, this is
a funny feeling to be here. It feels the first time.
It feels strange. It does feel like the first time
a little bit. Yeah, I didn't realize that I was
witnessing Paulina having taco bell for the very first I
didn't realize it, like ever. I truly thought you were

(00:49):
just having certain menu items like the fries, which I
still haven't had the fries.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
I hear their fire, but I have not had them neither.
They're so good.

Speaker 5 (00:57):
You will be on E and I where have I
heard it every day exactly and coming out and talk
about chicken nuggets like Lane Taco, What are we doing?

Speaker 6 (01:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:09):
I don't want that experience.

Speaker 6 (01:10):
I want like the Gordita experience and the chilopas and
the whatever support chicken nuggets.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Why would I go there for chicken nuggets?

Speaker 4 (01:20):
Why not?

Speaker 8 (01:20):
I can go to McDonald's for that. When you know
Taco bell, you gotta.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Do it, right, I go to Wendy's for chicken nuggets,
you or McDonald's. I'm going to McDonald's for chicken to
try them though.

Speaker 9 (01:29):
Yeah, they got the best fries in America in their
taco place, so you got to give their nuggets a try.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
They're good, they're good.

Speaker 5 (01:42):
But the top of McDonald's, right, they're good.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
They're they're better than they brought back I saw somewhere.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
Yeah, they're in the decades era right now, so they're
bringing back all the stuff from the nineties.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Are good. Yeah, they are good. They're pretty good. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
And double decker talk MEXI melt. It doesn't work delivered.
I still get it delivered. It doesn't work delivered, like
you really need to consume it, like ideally right in.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
The car as soon as you want.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
You need that little cheese to get hard and be
all over the place, you know what I mean? Like that,
I will say that the speed at which that cheese
guitard is concerning to me, like it's out hard. Well
there's that too, but I get a little hard.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
Lot hard after all that mountain you're getting shit.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
I don't eat the mountain or I don't I don't
consume the mountain dew.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
You know. I hate to say this, but that's one
of my bigger problems with Taco Bell is there's not
a consistent variety. Like some of them have doctor pepper,
some of them don't. I will drink a pepsi, but
it is not my favorite of all. It's not my
least favorite, but it's not my favorite of all of
the soft drinks available. If it's a pepsi poor, I'll
try and get doctor pepper usually yes, but not all

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the Taco Bells have it.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
I will agree, yeah, that the drink selection at Taco
bell is not the greatest.

Speaker 10 (02:59):
The strawberry lemonade is pristine.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
I feel like that's the thing with the drinks is
they're all like they're all sweet at least like again,
I don't have a problem with pepsi, but coke has
like a little spice to it, and so I feel
like the problem with pepsi poor is it's like pepsi sweet,
because pepsi is sweeter than coke in my opinion. And then

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you've got Mountain Dew, sweet, Baja Blast sweet, sweet sweet
in all of them.

Speaker 4 (03:29):
Is the is a strawberry lemonade? Is it frozen?

Speaker 1 (03:32):
No?

Speaker 10 (03:33):
No, no, no, I get the unfrozen a regular lemonade.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
Oh it's not available. Can I don't see that when
I order on the app.

Speaker 8 (03:38):
It's just so they're not consistent. Taco Bell like, not
every Taco Bell is the same.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (03:45):
Sound I like that.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
I feel like some of them depending on maybe who
like the distributor is for the beverage. And I feel
like some pepsi pores have doctor pepper, some don't. That's true,
and I'm with you, a lot of them now have that.
Just like the machine that makes any for you can imagine,
and it's just like it's a lot.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
It's a lot. For me, it's a lot.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
I prefer just we got six seven choices and we
just you know, right, there, and I don't know what's
going on behind the scenes in that computer.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
What kind of AI generated sodamn, I breaking, I don't know.
Dirty and sticky, yeah, they never, they're never really fully clean.

Speaker 6 (04:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (04:20):
Yeah, your coke tastes like cherry and vanilla.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
Because it's got a little bit of everything.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
Yeah, it doesn't between port your own dream.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
So I think we've talked about this before, about dating,
and I know I know what you're gonna tell me.
You're gonna say you just overthink it, because I do.
I overthink most things. But I was in this situation lately. Recently,
I matched with someone on a dating app, pretty young,
in her twenties, and I just and I look, I
know that when you when you are on the dating apps,
how many of you have done them?

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Kiki? You've never done them?

Speaker 7 (04:52):
No, but I always threatened that.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
It's not that that's your threat. You've done them before
camp kind of, yeah, done them.

Speaker 11 (04:57):
But I've never gone out on a date like as
there was of the dating app.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Okay, and then you did grind her, yeah, which is
a little bit different because it's pretty, it's pretty targeted, right,
and then you were married. You've never lived in that
generation app, and then we know that Paulina met her husband.
I'm a cheesemow dot com. Yeah, that's where it's called
cheese smug though, isn't it cheese a spark?

Speaker 4 (05:22):
Is that what it means?

Speaker 3 (05:24):
So I assume that when I match with someone, inherently
they're speaking to others. They're talking to other people, like
I assume if you're on a dating app, that you're
messaging multiple people. I get that this particular person though,
like if if I'm if I'm messaging with you early
on and I say, do you want to hang out?
Because that's kind of my thing. Now, it's like I

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got to get off this app because otherwise you become penpals.
It's so easy to do. I bet you I've matched.
I've matched her with certain people ten times, never met them.
Like you'll match with them, they'll fade away, I'll fade away,
then they pop up again, you match again. It's just
it's it's easy for them not to be real. So
lately I've been a little more intentional about it, where
I'm like, let's just go on a date, Like let's

(06:06):
go out, and this girl's like yeah, I'm free.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Like next Thursday.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
That immediately says to me, I've got a bunch of
other dates planned, because I don't know anybody who doesn't
have an hour or two between now and next Thursday.
What you can't find an hour or two to go
out with a guy who you're interested in in eight days?

Speaker 9 (06:26):
Of course, you can making it simple though, like maybe
I want to get my nails done and get my
hair down out.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
Eight days where the come on, Maybe she got the
day the Friday off the next day and she knows
it's gonna be a good time.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Right, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
I just I assume I'm in line, and I think
it's fair because well, I'm not necessarily dating a ton
of people at once. I'm talking to different people and
trying to decide who I want to go out with.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
That's true. But here's my thing.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
I just got this very strong vibe that there was
somebody above me on the list, like I felt like
a bench player. I don't know my vibe, my gut,
and I've been doing this a long time, so my
gut is usually right. I'm usually right when I'm on
the bench. When I'm getting it's like I want to
hold onto this to see if the other thing works out.

(07:17):
And my thing is if you're sleeping with someone and
I suspect that this girl was, and she's not doing
anything wrong. I don't know this for a fact. It's
just what my gut was telling me, that there was
a dude she was banging and then she was dating
other people. Because I also sometimes I like to sort
of know what the playing field is like where and
is this Have I been burned by people who are

(07:39):
further along with other people but still on the apps
I have? And it's not really my philosophy, because here's
my thing, Like if I'm sleeping with someone, then why
am I texting other people all day? Why am I
planning dates with other people?

Speaker 1 (07:53):
I don't. I don't understand that.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Like there may have been a time in my life
where I was juggling and I was okay sleeping with
more than one person at the same time and whatever,
and I but that's not even really true. Normally I'm
only with one person at a time, Like I'll sleep
with I'll be sleeping with somebody and either go somewhere,
it doesn't. But if it comes to where I'm gonna
sleep with someone else, then I stop sleeping with it,
cause it's kind of like it can be a little

(08:15):
I see for me, For me, it can be a
little dirty, you know, And it's like, I don't know,
we live in kind of a wild world, like who
knows what's going on. But I don't see the point
in sleeping with someone but going on dates with other people,
especially if the other person who you're dating is dating
with intention. You see what I'm saying, Because it's like,
if you're sleeping with another guy, I don't then you

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either either you're looking for to one up him or
her in or whatever the case. Maybe if you're a
guy sleeping with girls, like why are you sleeping with
someone but still going on dates? Is it that they're
not the person you're sleeping with isn't good enough? Is
it that they haven't committed to you? And until they do,
you're essentially going to use other people, which which I
think I think that has a lot to do with it,
because the fact that matter is Okay, let me ask you.

(09:01):
I'm wanna ask you a question, Kiki. So you meet
a guy, try and put yourself in the single world
I'm living.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
You know what I mean? You know what I mean?

Speaker 7 (09:10):
You're not using anybody. I'm literally just living life.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
You're not going on dating anybody. You tell this this
fucking story, but you're not. You're not actually doing any
of this.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Ship. Okay, but if.

Speaker 9 (09:22):
I met a guy who I really liked, that's Big
Tim's laws, bro. Because I'm still technically single, I.

Speaker 7 (09:28):
Can go down.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
You are not anywhere near as available as you are
not available. You're not available. Okay, okay, but let me
say so you go on a date with somebody and
you start sleeping with that guy. Yes, okay, honestly as
a woman, and I know that not all women are
the same, but I'm gonna ask all the women in
the room, do you, if you make the choice to

(09:50):
sleep with someone consistently, are you not kind of hoping
that they want to be with you? And I don't
mean to make this a male female thing, but but
are you not?

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Sort of? So that makes me think.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
That makes me think that if a woman is consistently
sleeping with another man and then still going on dates
with other men and not sleeping with them, that I
feel like they're simply using the other guys until the
primary guy pulls the trigger or doesn't. And I think
that is unfair to everybody else, and the same would

(10:27):
be true if it were the other way around. Imagine
if you mentioned me on a dating app, yes, and
you find out that I'm going on dates with you. Yeah,
but I'm consistently sleeping with another woman. Yes, How would
that make you feel it?

Speaker 9 (10:38):
Honestly, it's just about being honest though like you can't.

Speaker 7 (10:43):
Sometimes you can't.

Speaker 9 (10:44):
You might be dating or sleeping with that other woman
right until you get to know me to the point
where you want to sleep with me, and then you
cut her off and you and I start dating because
we have more things in line with each other. It's
just like if everybody's single, don't worry about who she's
sleeping with. Okay, once until you guys to getting ready.

Speaker 8 (11:00):
To a minute.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Yeah, No, No one's saying she's not. No, I'm not
saying for the commit I'm not saying for one second
that this person, male or female, is not entitled to
do that. But I I think in that case you
should be transparent because I think if you're sleeping with
someone else consistently and but you're still singing, going on dates,
I'm not saying I have a right to know but

(11:21):
I don't think it's a terrible idea to say, hey,
you know what, I am a little further along with
someone else, but we're not together, Because that way, nobody
gets surprised, right, because I've had it happen where I
think something's going in one direction with someone and then
they call me all of a sudden and go, I'm
I'm official with someone else and you didn't even know.
So why was I Why were you texting me all day?
Why was I texting you all day? Why were we

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going on dates?

Speaker 9 (11:44):
But if I tell you that, then you're going to
completely shut down any opportunity for us to grow.

Speaker 7 (11:49):
I got to get my rocks off somewhere.

Speaker 9 (11:50):
So if I'm already been sleeping with this man for years, right, Okay,
I'm sleeping with him, but I'm day.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
Usually, if you've been sleeping with a guy for years
and you're going on dates, I really don't want anything
to do with that.

Speaker 9 (12:00):
Well months, okay, whatever, somebody, Okay, so I'm sleeping with
this man, but I may not want it, But like.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
Why are okay? But then then why? I guess that's
my point. I guess my point is.

Speaker 10 (12:11):
Because it's a good dick, but toxic dick, right, son,
So you know I'm ready to get your dick. I'm
gonna still get this good dick over in the corner.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
But but my thing is that, why why am I
buying you dinner? Why am I trying to get to
know you? Why am I investing in you simply so
you can go get the better dick somewhere else. You
don't even know what my dick is yet because you're
not gonna but maybe, but you're gonna get to know me.
You're gonna let me take.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
You on dates.

Speaker 7 (12:39):
You're how do you think I get the dick? You
know each other?

Speaker 1 (12:45):
I know the toxic dick.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Yes, we talked about this before with the girl who
was banging her ex. I don't if you are sleeping
with someone else, your head is not in the game.
You are not truly available. You are not Kiki. You
can bullshit all you want. You are not truly available.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
You are not.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
It sounds like you don't want to play the game fight.
That's what it is. That's dating out there.

Speaker 9 (13:04):
You want you want a celibate woman.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
I don't want that. I don't want that. I don't
want that. I don't want to be the only one
dating with intentions. I don't want that. I don't want that.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
I don't want to be the only person dating you
with intention And I don't know. I just feel like,
how why is it so hard? You go on a date,
like you go on a date or two with me,
we sleep together, you decide, Hey, I like this guy,
I like sleeping with him. I don't that the process
could take a week and you could be done and
move on to the next Why do you have to

(13:40):
keep fucking someone else? But then other men, unbeknownst to them,
are taking you out thinking they have a chance, and
they can be disqualified like that because you've got something else.
I don't think that's fair. And I'm telling you if
you found out if I'm taking you out, but i'm
but there's a distance, Like we're not being physical because

(14:01):
I'm fucking another woman, but I'm still taking you on dates.
I think you'd ask the same questions. You'd be like, well,
what the fuck am I?

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Then?

Speaker 9 (14:08):
Yes, if I was, if I felt we should be
growing to the next level and we're not, then of
course I'm gonna say what are you doing?

Speaker 7 (14:13):
What's going on?

Speaker 9 (14:14):
But if you say you know I was still dating
another girl at the same time until I decided I
want to be with you, and so once you make
that decision, you be together.

Speaker 6 (14:23):
I think you said too, like dating with intention, right,
And I think a lot of people aren't really honestly
in the beginning. I don't know how you talk to
people on apps, but like, are you kind of like
trying to figure out what they're looking for?

Speaker 8 (14:33):
They look I just.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Kind of want to know what we're like.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
There was a time in my life, and maybe it
was when I was this girl's age, ye, where it
was just like talking about here, just whatever, And that's fine,
but that's not congruent with where I'm at in my
life right now.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
I don't I don't choose to. I don't want to juggle.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
I don't in order for me to survive in a
world where where a girl I'm taking out to dinner
is fucking another guy, and I know it. In order
for me to survive in that world, I need to
be fucking another girl, you know, because I don't want
to be the guy working towards this thing. But there's
this big piece that someone else is getting.

Speaker 8 (15:06):
So you need somebody who's gonna date with intention just
like you.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
Like, it's not that hard, it's not that to me.
To me, in my opinion, if and again i'm generalizing,
so don't come for me. But in my opinion, this
girl is waiting for the other guy to pull the
trigger and that's why she's giving him pussy and not me.

Speaker 8 (15:23):
That's what it's giving a little bit better, thank you.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
And I don't want to be the guy who's the
layaway guy until this dude gets his shit together.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
That's not for me anymore.

Speaker 8 (15:32):
That girl's not for you.

Speaker 4 (15:33):
You got right, Yeah, But I.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
Feel justified in this and I don't know that a
lot of it sounds like this room thinks I'm overthinking
of being crazy.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
I just don't.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
It's like, give me a fair give me access to
the whole thing, Like be like clear in your head
about when you want to date with me. I want
to be sitting across from you and I want the
chance to connect with you or not.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
It doesn't take that long, tikes, like what one or.

Speaker 8 (15:55):
Two dates to know if you want to see the
person again.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
But I'm I and I'm not making this about I'm
not slutschaining her because it could go the other way around.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
But the truth is, I've been the guy.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
I've been the guy who's banging the toxic girl who
I can't We just can't get shit together. But I'm
still going on dates with other people. Unbeknownst to them,
my head is at least halfway in something else. But
I'm going on dates because well, I think that's the
responsible thing to do because things aren't working out over here.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
They're still kind of looming.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
I'm not cheating because we're not together, but like, at
the same time, maybe I can find something that's healthier
or better. But these girls have no idea how quickly
they can be disqualified. They have no idea how easy
it would be for them to fuck up. Because in
my mind, I can always go back to plan A.
Do you see what I'm saying?

Speaker 9 (16:40):
No, I see what you're saying for sure, And I
think a lot of women's I don't know, but I
can just speak from experience, Like we always have a
dude in a cut waiting for the moment. We're free
like the moment, and sometimes we might date like because
we leave relationships mentally sometimes before we leave physically always,
so you know, I may be still fucking him physically,

(17:00):
but mentally I am done with him and I know that.
But in order to start a new relationship, I gotta
get myself out there. I got a date, but instead
of just fucking every man that I go on a
date with, I know I'm got toxic at home, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
But I think there're gonna be some some casualties. Like
I can tell you right now, in my twenty years
of being relive, mostly single, there have been some casualties.
There have been some girls that just came along at
the wrong time, and unbeknownst to them, my head wasn't
in it. Nothing wrong with them, I was thinking about
somebody else. They didn't know that. They didn't do anything wrong,
but they didn't really have a chance, and I was
doing them a disservice. So I'm putting this on me too.

(17:36):
It's not just that. And I don't care if you
go on dates with fifty people. It's the fucking part.
It's when you give the sex to one of those people.
To me, that's the one you want, that's the one.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yea.

Speaker 11 (17:47):
You don't think that you I mean, I know you've
had sex with people that you didn't have like feelings
for before. I mean, like, we've all done it, and
so you can't separate that. I definitely think you can,
especially most men.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
I just think if it's casual, it's casual. If it's casual,
it's casual. But if I'm texting you all day, if
we're planning dates out into the future, if we're getting
to know each other, then how genuine can you really
be if you're being intimate with another Like you're texting
me on I've had I've had girls at nit that
they're texting me on their way to a date, and

(18:20):
my thing is, why are you going on the date?
You're thinking about me? It's dating that and I've done
the same thing. I've done the same thing where like
I'm on my way to something else, but I'm texting
the other And in fairness, why am I doing that?
Because I'm not sure about any of them.

Speaker 11 (18:34):
See, it's not fair though. I think that's the moral
of the story. That's why they say all's fair in
love and war. I think dating until you're exclusive with someone,
and I think a lot of girls do this because
they have been burned by being like, oh, I'm going
to be loyal to this dude who hasn't like defined
the relationship yet, and I got screwed over because I
wasn't exploring other options than he was.

Speaker 4 (18:52):
So I think it.

Speaker 11 (18:53):
All has to be you know, it's it's messy, it's
not fair. That's why so many people get their heart,
you know, broken.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
I'm feelings for time right, like you're gonna feel fucked
over if you give the guy weeks and months. I'm
just talking about I want to go out with people
who have a clear head. I want to go out
with people who are challistic.

Speaker 8 (19:09):
You're not gonna know either exactly, not realistic at home.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
If you're fucking someone else actively, you don't have a
clear head.

Speaker 8 (19:14):
I get what you're saying, but you wouldn't know unless
they literally tell you.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
And sometimes I ask, and in this case, I basically asked,
and the answer I got was very vague. I felt
like I was on the bench. I felt like it
was a game. I felt like I was being held onto.
And why do I know how that feels because I've
done it. Yeah, so like I've been and I just
don't feel like it anymore. I don't feel like dating
five girls at the same time to find one anymore.

(19:40):
I would rather go out with you, go to dinner. Hey,
what do you think?

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Great?

Speaker 3 (19:43):
Not for you, not for me, next, and then I
move on to the next one. It's not that hard.

Speaker 11 (19:48):
But haven't you ever had someone that you just like,
call when you're drunk when you want some I mean,
and if you do that consistently, you can do that
until you meet someone that you actually I can very
much say that, like you can separate sex to giving
someone a fair shot. It's very different than chemistry and
sitting across from someone at a tube.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
I know it sucks, like we don't want it, Like
I don't want to know what you're doing.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
But you know, I almost do. I think that's my
problem is I almost do.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
I almost. I just want to know what the terms are.
I don't want to be surprised.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
That's why you drive yourself crazy.

Speaker 7 (20:16):
You can't know. Bro, No, I'm living with a man,
so I found my husband. Oh my god, it just happens.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
Like you are so full of shit. I love you
so much, but you're that's just bullshit. You're you are
not you. I've watched qualified man hit on you, and
I've watched you flirt with them and you're not going
home with him.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
You're not.

Speaker 7 (20:33):
I'm not going home. That's the thing. I'm not going
home with them. But if we if I wanted to go.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
On a date, you also are doing that.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
Okay, I'm to switch over to Christian mingle or something a.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Religious it's it's but when I reverse, when I roll
reverse here, you guys don't like it when I say
to you, like you going on dates, dude's taking you out,
But it doesn't elevate, it doesn't. It doesn't move past
that because he's already getting intimacy from somebody else.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
You're gonna be like, what the fuck.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
I don't have a fair shot here, Like I'm not
getting I'm not e I don't have access to everything here.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
I yet holding something back.

Speaker 8 (21:18):
I agree.

Speaker 6 (21:18):
So a couple of things. I have been loyal A
lot of women have in the talking stage for no
fucking reason, like a goofy, like the biggest goofy in
the world, because in my head, I'm like, oh, we
go together already more we're not. So when I got
with Hobby, I stopped talking to a person because I
was like, I like him better. So I was already
talking to somebody else but I was like, I like
him better, and he admitted to he went another date

(21:39):
to prior to me, So that's dating. But the thing
is I he literally pretty much asked me. I forgot
how he said it, but basically I was like, well, like,
you know, you gotta talk to me about that, right, Like,
I'm not gonna be walking around here assuming we're a
thing and you're not asking me. He's like, well, I
spend time with you every single day, so I thought
we were dating officially. I'm like, you gotta talk to
me about that, because I could walk around the next

(22:00):
four years and think we're together but we're not.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Correct.

Speaker 8 (22:02):
You have to communicate that with me.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
But I'm not even asking these anybody not to go
on dates. I guess I just want to feel like
I have a fair shot and that there aren't major
distractions and really that someone's not getting something to someone
that I'm not getting something that someone else is, because
then it's just like what the fuck?

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Because I've had enough.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
I've had enough things happen to me where it's like
change of plans or or you know. And again, I'm
admitting this is on me. I'm admitting that this is
based on my needs. But I'm willing to give the
same thing.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
I'm not.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
I'm not out here saying I'm going to bang some
girl and go on dates but you can't. That's not
what I'm saying. It's just like, I don't know if
you're fucking somebody else, and then why don't you make
it work with them?

Speaker 4 (22:45):
I feel like you're just you're setting yourself up for
failure every time, because like you can't go into a
date like, oh, she's free on Thursday. She's free on Thursday.

Speaker 9 (22:53):
Bro, you can't overthink that, like she's got it, she's
getting dick for a day.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
But that's except for that's what's happening.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
Do the same thing.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
But that's my point. But you're missing the point.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
I don't want to live like that, And the only
way it works is if I'm doing the same thing.
Otherwise I'm sitting at home going I really like this
person though, I can assume whatever the fun I.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
Want, and you don't even you haven't even met this woman.
I guess ready you're already thinking negative.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
I guess I'm not. I don't think it's negative. It
has nothing.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
This is not a reflection on a woman or a man.
It's simply I don't want to juggle anymore, and I
don't want to be juggled, so I would rather just
not because again, I know what it's like to be
fucking somebody and dating other people. Those people don't really
have a chance.

Speaker 4 (23:48):
And if she says she's a free on Thursday, then
she's free on Thursday.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Bro.

Speaker 8 (23:51):
Like yeah that part.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
Yeah, you can be like, oh that's eight days from now.

Speaker 9 (23:54):
But I do like this this era that you're in now.
Like you want a woman you know who is sitting
and waiting on her husband to come in her.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
It's not I really don't.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
I must not be communicating clearly because I'm not asking
for celibacy. I'm not asking her to sit around and
wait for me to call consistently. My only point is
if you are consistently fucking another man or woman, I
don't think you're truly available.

Speaker 11 (24:24):
So when you said that you were doing that and
you were going on dates with other girls, why didn't
you start dating the girls that you were fucking. There
was a reason, right, right, right, So it's the exact
same thing, like you didn't want to.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
But I wasted. I wouldn't say wasted. But you could
argue from the other side that I was going on
dates and I wasn't available.

Speaker 11 (24:44):
But you were, though, because you would have defined the
relationship with the girl you were fucking if you wanted
to date her, So you were available.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
If I know, Because as you know, there are many
other circumstances that could lead to people. You've already mentioned
many of them on this podcast. There are reasons why
you fuck someone and then it doesn't work because you
know it doesn't work right.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
But you can separate those because you know it's not
gonna work.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
But then I should stop.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
Then, if I'm really not trying to do something over here,
then I should stop.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
Why though, Because why go on.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
A date to other women and leave a major part
of myself out?

Speaker 11 (25:14):
Because you have to still earn if it's a new person,
you have to still earn your right into this pussy.
If someone's already been there, then they've been there.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
But if you're but can you would you admit that
it might be harder to do that if you're actively
fucking someone else.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
I think I can.

Speaker 11 (25:28):
I think men most men can separate, and I think
that I could too. If I've already gone down the
road with the other person knowing this isn't gonna work.
There's so many more factors that are important in a
relationship than just fucking, and so I would have been
dating that person if I wanted to. I don't think
fucking is that important. And if you're trying to figure
out compatibility on that.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
Level, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
I guess.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
I don't want to be going on dates and getting
to and investing in someone who is giving someone else more.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
But why is that more?

Speaker 3 (25:58):
Penetrating you is more than texting? That's another level of intimacy.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yeah, I guess, but I don't.

Speaker 4 (26:04):
I don't understand like that that's just dick, you know
what I'm saying that you're saying this in this hypothetical,
I don't, But I don't know that if you're I don't.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
I don't know that you're not just fucking somewhat. Again,
my gut, my gut tells me that these people, that
anybody is fucking these other people until they decide it's
that they want it, and then everybody else gets Because again,
again I don't mean to make this a male female thing,
but I do think that there are women who are
capable of just fucking. But primarily, I think women choose

(26:36):
men to have sex with who they want to be with,
because it's not simply I mean, we've had this conversation,
this is taiale so old as time. Men and women
choose sex for different reasons. I'm not saying every woman
chooses sex for a relationship or for some level of intimacy.
I'm not saying every man just wants to fuck, But
I think per capita, women are investing in the guy

(26:57):
they want and and when that and in this particular case,
when that guy maybe isn't responding as quickly, then they're
going on other dates. But they're going on other dates
until this fucking guy decides. And I think that's a
fair assumption when it comes to sex with women, because
when you start talking about physicality versus relationship and dating,

(27:18):
you typically hear, well, guys can fuck anything and girls
girls need a little more. So if that's true based
on that logic, then you're getting a little more from
the other guys.

Speaker 11 (27:27):
Because I think most times when the women is fucking
someone consistently and not dating them, it's because we've already
tried and we've realized this isn't going to work for
one reason or another, so we are able to do
that then, but we did at one point they know
I know their favorite color.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
Like we do know each other, but we can do that.

Speaker 11 (27:42):
I mean, it sucks, like I think it's not fair either,
you know, I understand why that.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
Body really the point of this.

Speaker 11 (27:48):
But like one of my exes who I dated for
a very long time, I asked him one day, I said,
what made you like realize that you wanted to be
with me? And he said, you actually want to know
the answer because it might hurt your feelings and I
said I do and he said I hooked up with
someone else and I left going, that's not Kaylin, And
I thought it was sweet. I was like, okay, Like
that's another I mean, you realize, like this doesn't feel

(28:09):
right anymore because you want to be with me and
you only.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Want to fuck me.

Speaker 6 (28:12):
And that's what I was gonna say too, Like she'll
stop once you guys establish something, or if she really
likes you and like it's mutual and you guys are
like building something. I do think she would stop, of course,
and if she doesn't, then then that's not for you.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
But it does suck.

Speaker 7 (28:26):
I hear you.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
Dating is unfair.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
I guess it's just like for anyone who's ever dated
me and felt like I wasn't completely available. I'm trying
to be completely available and I'm trying to avoid situations
where I'm going out with people who are in fact
not completely available. And I've heard so many arguments all
your that's controlling. No, I'm not telling you what to do.
I'm telling you what I'm comfortable with the person I'm

(28:50):
getting to know doing right.

Speaker 11 (28:51):
That's different, and you realize that's what you want moving forward,
and that is growth.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Like Paulina said, that's good.

Speaker 11 (28:56):
I mean, if you make your intentions clear and they,
you know, can respond however they want, then you can
move forward dating that way.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
You know. Yeah, I'm not saying, hey, guess what I'm
going to date and fuck you can't.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
I know.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
I know guys that pull that shit. I'm not That's
not what I'm saying at all. I'm not asking for
anything from anybody else that I'm not willing to see.

Speaker 11 (29:14):
If you're going for younger girls, they might be in
the same era that you were once in.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
When you're not doing that, No, I think that's fair.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Which I mean it sucks.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
I think that's.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
Fair, But you know, I don't know. For me, I
just I don't want surprises. I don't want to feel
like I'm giving of myself and then someone else is
getting more for some reason. I mean, it's this whole
bench philosophy I feel like, and I think it's fair
to assume when you meet someone on a dating app,
if you're talking to five people, they're talking to five
people because you have to, because if you don't, you

(29:45):
can expect that eighty percent of people you meet you'll
never meet, or they'll drop out or whatever. It's a
numbers game, new matches every fucking day. You know it's
designed it It appeals to the same part of your
brain that gambling does. Like it's designed to They say
it's designed for to find a relationship.

Speaker 4 (30:01):
No it's not.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
It's designed to bring you back to look for the
next best thing. And so I guess, as somebody who's
been guilty of searching for the next best thing, I
want to maybe control that a little better. And if
I meet somebody who's not in that place, then fine,
that's okay.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
I think you don't want to get hurt again.

Speaker 11 (30:18):
Is honestly what I'm hearing from this, and so you
want to like not have any surprises. But unfortunately, the
reason why falling is so amazing is because when it
does work, it makes it that much better, you know.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
And I guess my point there is I wonder if
if that's even capable with somebody who is further along
with other with another person, male or female, I don't
care what situation you're in. And again, only reason I know,
the only reason I see the man behind the curtain
so clearly is because I've lived that life, right, you know,
And so anyway, I don't know. I've thought about it
all weekend because I'm like, eh, it's probably harsh, But

(30:50):
I was basically like, why don't you let me know
of those?

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Because I just know.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
I know there's a guy who's primary and everybody else's secondary,
and I just my gut tells me that. And my
response is basically like, why don't you work that out?
And if it works out, great, If it doesn't call me,
maybe I'm available, maybe I'm not.

Speaker 11 (31:06):
And it's good that you know that that wouldn't work
for you, Like it's good that you know, Okay, I
couldn't put this other guy out of my head. So
I'm not going to move forward with this situation. That's
completely fine.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
Yeah, I mean, I guess I just had it happen
too many times. We're either And again I'm not saying
it's anyone's fault. In some cases, I didn't act fast enough.
In some cases I didn't know.

Speaker 11 (31:23):
I also would would challenge you to not put your
past experiences though on someone new, you know, because you're
bringing that into new situations, which we all do.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
We all see things through our own filter. But it
sucks for.

Speaker 7 (31:35):
Sure, you know.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
I guess this is where and again I'm willing to
give what I'm what I'm expecting.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
It's not the other way.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
Or it's just like I don't know, Like why don't
we go out and see if we like each other
and then you'll know pretty quickly and then you know,
it's Monday. If we go out on Monday and you
don't like me, then Tuesday you can go out with
any fucking you never ever seen me again. But like,
I don't know how hard that is to like go
into some thing with a clear head.

Speaker 11 (32:01):
So if a girl tells you, I'm not comfortable answering
that would you still go out with them?

Speaker 3 (32:06):
Like I don't think I know that would tell me
the I would have the answer then. Now, I've also
heard of situations where men and women lie about that
to make themselves seem more appealing. Yes, like oh, I'm
seeing somebody else.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
And they're not.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
Oh, because they want they want you to like it's
a my game again, Like I don't want that shit either, Like,
just what's the fucking deal?

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Not with the game, Just tell me what the deal.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
Is, Like, are you are You've been fucking someone else
for a month? Okay, well, then then I can decide
if I want to take the risk or not. But
when you don't tell me and we go in a
couple of days, I start to like you and then
it's oh, hey, I can't see you anymore because I've
like it's just happened to me not that long ago.
A girl pursued me, came for me. Yeah, hardcore, and
I went for it. And then after like literally two

(32:51):
weeks of benching me, Oh, I'm busy, I'm traveling, I'm
doing this, and that all of a sudden it's I
have a boyfriend now, and I'm like, wait a minute, hold.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
On yeah, it hurts. You have every right to do that.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
You didn't do anything wrong, But why were you fucking
blowing me off for two weeks knowing that I wanted
to see you. All you were doing was keeping me
there while you decided if this other thing was enough,
And then once you decided it was enough, then it
was oh, by the way, I'm seeing someone. Sorry, But
like the point was I was working to like see
you again. I was interested in like pursuing it. But

(33:25):
I've done the same thing where it's like I don't
really want that person to go away, but I definitely
hope it works out with another person, and I think
it's that kind of sucks.

Speaker 6 (33:34):
Yeah, I don't suck. So can I make a suggestion? Yeah,
it's it's controversial, but do you think we can know
what it is?

Speaker 3 (33:41):
But can we cut my dick off and just call
it that?

Speaker 1 (33:45):
Just retire? Retire my dick is? That's it?

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Hang it up on the Smithsonian?

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Yeah, for fuck medical research.

Speaker 6 (33:52):
Maybe can we like up the age in the dating
apps a little bit? Because I just no, no, no,
for real, Like I don't think twenty year olds are
like where it's that it's no shit to Tony.

Speaker 8 (34:00):
It's like I have a sister's losso we're in their twenties.

Speaker 6 (34:02):
But I look at them and I look at them
and I'm like, you guys are barely figuring out life.
They're trying to get experience for their resume, just for
work life, you know, resume. They're graduating college, they're looking
into like what is it called grad school? Like for
in a whole different space, I think, and like the
ing we're all with you, I'm working on.

Speaker 8 (34:18):
My resume tonight.

Speaker 4 (34:19):
I need you for a recommendation.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
If you can't go out with me because you're working
on your CV, well that means someone's working on your
fucking CV.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Because.

Speaker 6 (34:31):
Wrong.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
I was always playing No.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
I mean, I think my age range is like twenty
five to fifty or something like.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
It could be any of.

Speaker 8 (34:39):
Them, but like they're nice. The third floor is a
nice place to be.

Speaker 6 (34:42):
And I'm not saying a twenty year old you can't
like be you know, committed or whatever.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
I'll tell you this one show it really is. This
isn't limited to like the girl I was just telling
you about I think was in her mid thirties.

Speaker 7 (34:53):
It happens.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
So it's not like I don't. Yes, yes, I see
what you're I see what you're saying, But like, I
don't know that it necessarily matters. I've dated women in
their forties who are less mature than women i've dated
in their early thirties. It just all over the place,
it is. I just want to be really clear. I'm
not asking for anything. I'm I'm not willing to give
because again I've heard all the things, Oh, you're you're controlling.

(35:14):
Oh this, and that's a bad sign. I'm not controlling you.
I'm telling you. I just I don't know. Like, I'm good,
I'm good on my own. I don't need I don't
need to play this game. I don't really want to
play any games. I would rather just go out cool.
Is there chemistry?

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Is it good?

Speaker 3 (35:30):
I don't want my happiness or my future to be
predicated by another person that other than the two of us, right,
you know, And I'm am I projecting. Of course, I'm projecting.
I know the game so well because I've done this
for a long time. And by the way, it doesn't work. Yeah,
I mean, unless, of course, you're dead set on getting
married or something, and then you're going to pick somebody

(35:52):
and marry him.

Speaker 9 (35:53):
And that's the thing I was asking, are you are
you looking for a long term relationship because I think
maybe people think or assume like, oh, he's never going
to marry anybody, or he doesn't want to marry with anybody,
So I'm just gonna use him until I find somebody
that will.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
You know what I'm saying, maybe or you know what.
As much as I don't like the answer, I guess
I would appreciate some transparency. Like, nobody owes me shit
if we're not in a committed relationship. Nobody owes me shit.
But if you're fucking someone, for example, and they ask,
and that person who you're banging is like, are you
fucking other people? You have an obligation to say yes. Yeah.
You have an obligation for the other person to say yes,

(36:27):
I am now that you do. You don't have an
obligation to be shamed for it. Yeah, because if I'm
having sex with you, I think I have a right
to know if you're actively having sex with other people.
From a health standpoint, no, I'm a safety that's not
always enough depending on what activities you're doing. Well, I
don't I'm not putting a condom on my tongue. You
can get STDs a lot of other ways.

Speaker 8 (36:46):
Yeah, they say you're supposed to, but people really honest?

Speaker 3 (36:49):
No?

Speaker 8 (36:49):
Are they honest? Is the question?

Speaker 1 (36:51):
I'm just saying.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
If I don't ask the question, and we're not together
in a committed relationship, no one's doing anything wrong.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
But I don't know.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
I'd like an honest answer if I ask question. I'd
like to know what the terms are.

Speaker 11 (37:02):
Anytime you're putting your tongue somewhere, though, you take some
ownership and I'm just doing this willy nilly out here,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
I agree with you, but I think it's an adult
and mature thing to do.

Speaker 4 (37:11):
You're expecting that if you're.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
Fucking multiple people simultaneously, especially considering like syphilis apparently as rampant.
I think it's if the question is asked.

Speaker 11 (37:20):
But people aren't. They're assholes. You know how many times I've
been screwed over? You know, I mean, people aren't.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
That's the thing.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
I don't think it's an unfair question to ask. I
don't think it's an unfair expectation to get an honest answer.
I would answer the question honestly. And here's the thing
if you were to go, you fucking whort, No, you
don't get to do that. You don't get to do
that because we're not together. So I'm not doing anything wrong.
We're not together. If I want to have sex with
other people, I can do that because we're not in
a relationship. You're right, we both are taking an equal

(37:46):
risk here.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
You're still trusting a stranger to be honest with you.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
But if I ask the question that's what do you do?

Speaker 2 (37:53):
Well, you're putting that onto other people.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
I think people.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
I think when it comes to having sex in today's
world with more than one per if someone wants to know,
am I the only one or not, I don't have
to know who it is. You don't have to give
me details. I think it's a nice, mature, healthy thing
to do, of course, to say, yeah, I'm sleeping, you're
not the only one.

Speaker 11 (38:16):
Of course, But I mean again, I mean we're expecting
common decency out it.

Speaker 10 (38:20):
I would never believe if they were like no, Justine,
I would never believe that you can't sit there and
be like, yes, you're telling me, Like no matter how
many days yis, I would never take that as like
one hundred percent truth.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
Ever, in today's day and age, yeah, I would say
that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
I guess I'd like to believe that you know the
person I'm supposed to be. We can have an honest conversation.
And again, I don't get to slutshame you. I don't
get to but I can be like, oh shit, okay,
well that I need to be aware of that.

Speaker 11 (38:47):
But like I feel that way about ghostick. I think
there's never an excuse to go someone. I think it's
the most god awful thing you can do to a person,
but a ton of people do it all the time,
and I just have to be cool with that.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
I think that's like one of the rudest.

Speaker 11 (38:58):
Things you can do to someone is not communicate that
you're done, But people do it all the time.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
I think I'm also I can make whatever rules I
want for myself, and I can be fair about it,
and I can be reciprocal about it and not a hypocrite,
and I can accept the consequences for what I'm saying.
You might hear me now and go you might see
a lot of things because it's coming from a male,
but I can already hear it. Now, you're a slut
chamber again. I'm not I was a slut. I'm not

(39:26):
shaying anybody. I get it again, if we don't have it,
if there are no terms, like if this girl I
get the vibe she's banging somebody else, if i'd been
like you fucking whoror for that which guys on guys
of dating apps are doing. I've seen screenshots of guys. Yes,
I have seen. I have seen multiple screenshots, and I
can tell you I'm not projecting.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
This isn't that me.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
I've had guys who will send the rose thing like
the little rose you get one rose a week, or
you can buy them. They'll send a woman a rose,
she won't give them enough attention or any attention. They'll
write back and call her a fucking bitch because they
use their rose on her or whatever. I know, I'm serious.
I'm like, I can't believe this ship. Like you don't
have any fucking right nor assholes. You don't owe me shit,

(40:10):
But I also don't have to be okay with your terms.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Of course not you need to go on ninety day fiance.
I think I think so you think.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
I need to meet someone in uh, you know, I
don't know Afghanistan or something.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
Yeah, because then you get straight to the point, straight
to the altar.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
I don't know. I don't know. Whatever the rules are,
these are rules I'm willing to follow. I just I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
It's just like you know what works for you, that's good.

Speaker 9 (40:34):
Is there a section on an apps like new Profile,
like when they like you can get fresh, you can get.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
Those, Well, it'll tell you when they're new to the.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
App, but it does the.

Speaker 7 (40:45):
New album will learn like.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
This is just where I'm at, and again if that's
not where other people are at. But I will say,
if you're putting your foot down and you're like, I
would never do that.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
I am.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
I am opposed to what you're saying. That only says
to me you're fucking somebody else. Like that says to
me that I'm right. It says to me that like
this girl, and I said, like, hey, I don't it
sounds like there's sounds like maybe you're seeing some other
guys in a little further along. Let me know if
that doesn't work out. No response, I was right. Otherwise
you say no, no, it's not like that, you know,

(41:14):
let's me eat or whatever. No, I said to her, look,
I'm getting the vibe that I'm on the bench. I
don't really love it. Let me know if something doesn't
work out. No response to that, So I was right.

Speaker 7 (41:24):
She's like, shit, I'm caught.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
So you saved yourself.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
Some you know that's my point.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
I guess that's my point. I guess its like again,
and I wasn't, like you fucking whore. She didn't do
anything wrong, she didn't do anything to me nothing, she
did nothing wrong, and she's I don't I don't feel like.

Speaker 11 (41:38):
It even if I wasn't though, I'm telling you, I
wouldn't answer that question, like if a guy asked me
even if I wasn't having sex with someone else, because
I'd be like, what.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
The hell, I don't even know your last name?

Speaker 1 (41:49):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
I guess I don't think it's that big a deal
that clockship.

Speaker 9 (41:59):
You got to get the profiles when I first hit
like an, iHeartRadio, We're up premiere Boo, you need a virgin.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
Oh God, I think I'm just kidding. I didn't think.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
I'm just I'm just too old for that. Like I'm
just kind of over it. I've been playing. I've been
playing the game for so long and then I want something.
At this point in my life, I guess I'm looking
for something a little bit more transparent, a little bit
more straightforward, you know, somebody who doesn't also have the
energy to go out with. Because again, if you're going
to date people who are dating five people, then you

(42:31):
better be dating five people. Otherwise you're gonna sit at
home and be like, fuck, what am I missing? Am
I losing it?

Speaker 1 (42:38):
You know?

Speaker 3 (42:39):
I like, I want to like this person, but nothing's
happening again, like this is this is just one example
of that, But like I don't know.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Again, how long does it take?

Speaker 3 (42:47):
You go on a day with someone you like them,
you don't like them, You go to another day, you
fuck them, you don't like it, you just stop talking
to them.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
It's not that hard.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
But if you're consistently doing things with other people that
I think there's something there. Either it's toxic. Again the
girl who went back to her ex or who wouldn't
stop sucking her ex that wasn't for good reason. Yeah,
I don't feel like fucking with that, Like you know
what I'm saying, Like they weren't, like I remember I
asked her. I'm like, is this sex really good, Like
is that what she's like? And her answer was no,

(43:14):
In fact, that's the answer most of the time. It's
not good. It's just comfortable. And I'm going, so wait
a minute, you're fucking another guy and it's not great.
But that's getting in the way of you meeting other
men who might be better. But you, your head isn't
in it you and you can't tell me that it
is because you keep going, all's gonna takes a guy

(43:36):
to pick up the wrong fork and you're like, fuck that.

Speaker 4 (43:38):
We have needs, you know.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
But then keithanies met by the guy sitting right in
front of you.

Speaker 11 (43:43):
Wow, I don't know if you can meet those Yeah,
save the mouth for the relationship.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
The mouth hugs.

Speaker 7 (43:56):
I never in my life, That's what I tell what
I've done.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
This before, Tea. I've seen that video.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
I'm a thirty three year old version, but my first date.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
I almost wasn't thirty three year old version.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
Yeah, all right, there's your fucking tangents.

Speaker 4 (44:19):
See in six months.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Yeah, right right,