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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So we were off on Monday, so there was no
tangent on Monday. And I've decided officially that if I
got the choice between Monday and Friday off, it would
be Monday every week.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
But hit the intro. Let's go.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
It's the tangent giving you all this shit we couldn't
talk about on the air, and we're.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Hitting the intro, right, Paulina ro hits the intro. Good good?
Speaker 3 (00:21):
My fillin is here something I say.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Hit the intro and then nothing happens. So that's exciting.
I love when that happens. But it's all good. So
here's my etiquette question of the day in the tangent.
All right, a bride to be has ignited a cultural debate.
They're calling this after her American bridesmaids. Maybe this is
written in the UK reacted negatively to her plan of
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requesting cash instead of traditional wedding gifts. So the bride,
whose family hails from Europe, explained that in her culture,
it's customary for guests to give cash in cards during
the reception of practice. That is, man to help the
couple start their new life together. Makes sense. However, her
bridesmaids were taken aback, we want asking, So you just
want money from everybody. The response led the bride to
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question if her request was offensive. She went to Reddit
for advice. So there's two places to go. If you're
not sure, go to Reddit or come here and then
we'll tell you. Go to Kiki's Court, go to Morality
Monday on a Thursday, or whatever it is. Many users
reassured her that asking for cash is not only acceptable
but increasingly common. Etiquette experts suggest that while requesting cash
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is okay, it's important to communicate the preference thoughtfully, perhaps
through a wedding website or small traditional registry for guests
who prefer to give physical gifts, like my mom, for example,
of a different generation. It's really having a hard time
with the idea of giving people money because growing up
that was rude. It was rude to give people money
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as a gift really for anything. So she's the one
who was still go to the registry. Now our generation,
younger generation, I know, have come to expect cash, and
I'm fine with that because if I'm going to spend
the same amount of money no matter what, then you
can have the money. And I get why you'd want
the money, especially considering most of the weddings I'm going
to these days, or like second and third and fifth
weddings or whatever, so they already have a kitchen aid
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and they already have whatever. And I guess I've come
to learn that the etiquette, like in the Midwest, has
been that you buy something off the registry for the shower,
and then you give money at the wedding. As someone
who doesn't normally get invited to showers because it's typically
for women. Then I guess I've always I don't know.
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I mean again, in the last decade, I've just given money.
But before that, I would have gone to the thing
and I would have bought them something nice off of
the registry, and then it gets sent to them. I
don't have to worry about it or whatever else. And
that's typically what I've done. But I've been shamed.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I've been shamed over the years.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Not by my friends, but people here over the years
have been like, oh my god, that's unbelievable that you
wouldn't give cash. But again, I'm growing up is raised
that cash was a lazy gift. Gift cards were a
lazy gift. Now I give gift cards left and right,
now I'm just mine, just mine. No one else, no
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one else ever gives a gift. It's my party. Truth
it is.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
I love that you Are you kidding that if you
don't give me a gift card, you don't love me
like I love cash, love a gift card.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
I'm also culturally like I think programmed that way for me.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I always hold that it's lazy, but at the same time, hey,
look here's the money. You go get what you want.
It's it does save me from having to come up
with a gift, which I think does lack in creativity
and effort. But I mean, I tend to get a
better reaction from people when I give them some form
of cash or equivalent than I do when I buy
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them a gift.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
It just tends to be the truth. Not from everybody,
but for most people.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
But if you just straight up ask your guests, just
straight up say I only want money?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Is that rude?
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (03:57):
And no.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
I'm a big believer of how you say it.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
And I think we On my wedding thing, I was like, because,
like you said, Hobby and I have been living together,
we had literally but well I bought a house at
that time, the townhouse, right shout out to me. Period
women in stem I had a house ready.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
You period, no one else just me.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
That's her party trick. That's buying property, buying properties, like.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah, that's your next mind's gift cards and mine which
probably wildly in common, and yours is buying property also
not being done.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Yeah, I'm the Barbara.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Corkan of Chicago, as they call you.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yes, people are always saying that to me.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
They're like, hey, I know she took the class, did
she ever pass the real estate examine?
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I'm like, well, that's not important.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Barbara Corkoran in Chicago has real tours at her disposal.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Literally that need to pass it herself. That's right.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
I don't have to call them. I just think it
and they show up.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Okay. So, so you were saying about your wedding.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
So I did something that was like on the website
that I used to like track RCPs or something, and
it was kind of like a wedding fund type thing
where it was just like hey, you know, it was
like written very nicely and it was just like, you know,
thank you for wanting to gift us something. You know,
like if you would like to please like feel free
to do this but like, no gifts are necessary. I
make that so fucking clear, like no gifts are ever necessary,
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period point.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
But let's keep it real, let's keep it on the
one hundred. I get that you would judge the fuck
out of somebody who didn't give you a break.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
I didn't get a lot of gifts actually for my wedding.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
What yeah, I didn't get a lot of people give
you your wedding. He didn't give you a gift.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
But I don't like judge them because I just wanted
them to be there to me.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
And I told you guys this from day one. I
was like, you guys, being there means the world to me.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
To have to take time off of work to travel
pack your fucking chonies and your luggage like that a
lot of work, you know, and if you're a woman, yes,
a lot of chony is to pack. So to me
that meant the world. But I know I don't think
like everybody else, and I get it. I can see
how that can come off rude. I would because I
just would, and you guys all did, and you guys,
it's not half to I'm gonna still beat your butts,
but thank you for that. But like hav and I
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lived together for years already we did the whole thing.
You know, I wasn't quite the virgin anyway. I was pregnant,
so like there was a lot of moving parts. I know,
I know I was not a virgin of right, Yeah,
I were white and I was pregnant. But my boy
is I'm saying, no, I didn't.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
Need a Dyson.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I didn't need China.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
I didn't need these things, you know.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
So I'm like, well, if you're gonna gift like cash
is amazing, because you know we're trying to buy another property.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Your girls trying to like it. I'll move into this house.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Chicago.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
That's what they call me.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
I think.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Is it bad?
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Bad? I like the honeymoon approach where like they have
like a honey fun kind of website thing.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
I kind of like that approach because it's like I
still feel like I'm contributing to something other than just
handing you money. Yeah. I don't care, like you can
just have the money. But it just I don't know,
it makes me feel like I'm not paying your light bill,
you know what I mean? Like any other thing is
I don't know how honey funds work. Do you just
wind up still getting a bunch of cash.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
So you cash out at the end. It goes to
your account, and like technically artist for the honeymoon, but
because I was pregnant, I have postponed my honeymoon by
like three years, so I'm not haven't gone yet. I
probably won't go. Most couples go typically right after they
get married at some point. That's not me, but I
will one day, I will, and I'll take the honey
fund and we'll be gone.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
I guess the other thing about giving people cash is
that while they might they might need it for necessities,
that's not the point of me giving you the cash.
The point of me giving you the money is for
you to do something to celebrate you. So I guess like,
if you can do something that's like in gift form
or honey fund form, if it really has to go
to travel or something, then that way, I'm it's sort
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of like your friends are enabling you to do this thing,
as opposed to if I give you. You know, if everyone
gives you a couple hundred bucks, you wind up with
a few thousand dollars or tens of thousands or whatever
you wind up with at the ends. Yeah, you can
buy a house with it, I guess, but you also
like you're not you're not paying medical bills with it
or you know what I mean. Like it's it's it's like,
for example.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
I get it, I get it.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
My godson, it's sort of a distant relationship. It's going
to say at this point, I have a godson, except
his mom doesn't like me very much. Yeah, yeah, that's well,
apparently I was supposed to be like a father too.
I didn't realize that I was supposed I don't realize
I was supposed to raise the kid too.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
I didn't know this. And they take this well, and it.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
Is serious, but like not that like I'm not maybe
that a girl.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
It's complicated because apparently, like you know, he and I.
I still consider him a very close friend, but he
they made me the god father. I don't live there
and and so, and then that relationship became distant because
I got around back, it got around the way.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Back to your boy. Does that that.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Within like six months or a year, I wasn't fulfilling
my quote unquote obligation. It's a spiritual title. And I
actually confronted my friend about this. I actually asked him like,
point blank, what do you need from me? It's it's
it's a fucking infant right now, Like, what do you
need from me to do a better job at this
so that we don't have a problem. And I was
told you're fine, this is not a you problem, but
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nothing was ever said to her about it was never corrected.
And unfortunately, what that's done is it's drawn a big
wedge in that friendship. It's it's made me feel very
unwelcome among them. And now the kid is not you know,
he's he's old enough that I could be involved, and
I would like to be, but it's one of those
things where like, am I supposed to just there's a
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point to where I'm going with this? But am I
I'm supposed to just knock on your door and engage?
Like in some ways maybe yes, but in other ways
I don't feel welcome. So it's like and and I
don't think this kid really even knows me, So why
would you want to hang out with me?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (09:30):
But anyway, my point is when he was born, I
gave them money. I think I opened an account.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
I did.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
I open an account and I put money in it
and the reason I did it that way is because
I'm they have money, They're fine. But if I'm just
writing checks every year for a couple hundred bucks or
whatever it is, and or for college and it gets comingled,
it's being used for cell phone bills and shit, which
I get, you know, in the long run, in the
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long run like it, you know, can try in this
off way towards something for him. But I wanted there
to be money in an account for him.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Then that's perfect.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
That was money that he could see some day, that
was from me and others to him.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Perfect. They closed the account, he commingled the funds.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
No what Yeah, I wonder why that?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
And so it pissed me off because it was like,
I get that you don't need the money, and I
trust that whatever contract, and it's been very little because
again I'm not involved anymore, and I'm a I'm a
fucking deadbeat godfather. I I I Again, it's they're not
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they don't need the money, they're not taking the money,
they're not stealing from me. It's nothing like that. But
the symbolic nature of like when he's eighteen years old,
if I put few inter bucks in there every year, yeah,
and then he's eighteen and he's got five grand or
ten grand or whatever it is, and he goes to
college and he has that money and it's it's there,
and it's in his account and it's his Like that,
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That was what I was going for, not oh yeah,
you know uncle Fred over the years has contributed to
ten Granted, we are you know, indirectly using that towards
your college education or whatever.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Like to me, that was a big difference. So I
guess if I give you money at your wedding, right,
then does he get used for bills or does he
get used for this shit I wanted to get used for. Yeah,
which is for you to go do something awesome for yourself.
I think life takes over sometimes.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
I was gonna say, I think this is going to
sound harsh, but I don't think it's any of our
business where the money goes.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
And I say, this is my money, it's.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Your money, but you gifted it, so don't like act
like that's you have to like watch exactly where your
penny goes.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
I get what you're saying, No, no.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
You get, but I gave it to him. I didn't
give it to him Yeah, no.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
That to the child was that was weird.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
They should have kept that account going, Like that's my
mom did the same thing. I wouldn't co mingle funds
no matter how tough times are.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Yeah, I gave it to the And again they're a
ceiling for me. I'm not saying they are, absolutely not,
Like I'm sure that he'll be well taken care of
when the time comes in. And many peop live contribute,
but I don't know, Like, you're right, if I give
you money for your wedding, you can spend it on
groceries or whatever.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
But then but then you shouldn't.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
But then if you don't go on a honeymoon, correct,
and you spent all the money that people gave you
for the honeymoon or on other shit, well then it's
hard for me to feel bad for you for not
going on the honeymoon because I gave you money for
the honeymoon.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Yeah, you sound like my husband a lot, because like me, ever.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Since collectively not just me, it doesn't matter me tiny contribution,
You're not going anywhere with my money.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
But you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Like I was since I was little, when I would
get like birthday money or whatever. My mom had to
take it from me because I would like run to Target,
Walmart whatever. I was a kid, write hot topic or
in a hot topic, still a libbylo all these little places.
I'm like, oh, I'm gonna go spend all this money,
and my mom was like, no, we're saving it.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
And I'm so happy she did.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Because I went to college, I had a couple bucks
for like books and stuff, right, And I was like
very grateful about a parking pass, like it was a
big deal to me.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Well, you felt like you had money because she would
give you a little bit of power, yes, and a
little bit of ability to choose your destiny, because when
you're eighteen years old, for the most part, you don't
have shit, nothing, you know, if people have contributed, and
so it's really more symbolic for me.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
But in this case, I don't know, it's.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Just like, yeah, sure, of course, of course you could
spend it on whatever.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
You You're never gonna know at the end of the
day too, so there's no point of overthinking it in
my In my opinion, like when I give you a gift,
whether it's cash or if I give you I've given
you clothes, like running shoes I've given you. I think
it give you like a wind breaker. I haven't seen
that once on you. But I'm not like, where is
it he better wear?
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Well, you obviously are like where is it?
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Well, No, I'm just saying like, I don't know where
it went.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Like you could have donated it, you could have worn it.
You could have I don't know, chopped it up, made
a whole new outfit out of it.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
I don't know what you.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Did with it, but I did. I chopped it. I
sewed myself something different.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
Croptop win breaker you saw, Yeah, that.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Was the one you gave.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
I knew it.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
But like, you can't be offended, I think as the
gift giver, because that's you can't care what you do
with it.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
Maybe you loved it, maybe you hated.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
It, But I said you pictures of me wearing the
gym shoes in the gym, well, yes you had, and
they're warning the fuck I wore. I actually wore them
out to where they had to be replaced. So for
the person who's not taking inventory, clearly.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Is taking inventories.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
I'm just giving an example. I know I've giveed you
other things. I can't remember the rest but I like the.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Gift giving someone a T shirt and giving someone five
hundred bucks for their honeymoon. Yeah again, like, you're right,
I don't have any say over what you do with it.
But then then years later, if you're like, man, we
can't afford to go on a honeymoon, yeah, it's like
we'll not hold on a minute. Yeah, well not hold
on a minute because like people gave you ten grand
honeywe and I get that you prioritize it in another way, right,
But then, like I I don't feel too bad.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
No, if someone's walking around saying like I can't afford this,
but like they had a honeymoon fun, that's very different.
Like but if life life like me where I had
a baby, I can't go to Italy next week. I
have to plan this in many different ways with work
and babysitting, and I want to wait toull She's a
little bit older, so I could definitely leave her and
feel super comfy for like two weeks. But yeah, no,
oh I'm doing that. And you know what the funniest
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part is is that I think you and my husband
think so much alike because he's like this, me, I
would have blown that money anywhere and everywhere. That's just
how I think it operates.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Great.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
I know, I know you hate this and you're dying
inside because I know your type, Like how you does
not like this?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Well, because I.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Guess you know you're not doing anything wrong. But if
you're saying people, hey, you can contribute to this account
for my honeymoon, I know, and then you use it
on bullshit.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
It's almost a lie.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
That's your right.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
But like I think the people who are contributing, and
they might contribute a little more because it's like, oh,
this is great. They can get a nicer hotel, or
they can get first class tickets, or they can go
to an extra thing or haven't really and then if
it doesn't happen, it's kind of like, oh yeah, which
is why giving this is This is why giving money
is problematic, because I think most people take some stock
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in what happens with the gift that they're giving. Like
how many times have you heard the story of heyes,
my cousin needs five grand to pay the mortgage or
else you know, alone, and then six months later, cousin's
got a brand new car and never paid you back.
Now you gave the loan or you gave the gift,
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which is why I always say, if you're going to
give somebody, if you're going to loan somebody money, expect
to never see it again, and you have to be
prepared in your mind for there to be no strings.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
So I don't do money.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
I don't know. I know, I know somebody.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
I know somebody who gave their sister cousin ten thousand
dollars and it was it was it was, it was
for survival. They had to have it at the time
to get through the next couple of months or whatever.
Six months later, brand new car on Instagram. Look at
my brand new car and this person and this person
never paid back. Now, Look, do I think they use
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the money for the cause for the purpose that they said? Probably,
but that instead of taking the now they're caught up,
I guess. Or they're really financially fucking stupid.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Very stupid.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
But they're caught up as opposed to paying the person
back who they owe. They're driving a brand new car.
So I feel like people do take inventory in their
minds of where their money is going and whether they
have a right to or not. I think people do
develop a resentment because it's like and not maybe for
a gift, certainly for a loan.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
I don't think you would get mad if I went
and bought a brand new twenty twenty four bend something
something with my wedding money, Like.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
I don't think you'd be thrilled by that.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
You're like, that doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
That's a good question. Is that ethical? That's actually a
very good.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
That's what I'm saying. I don't think it is.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
But that's like it is, either it's not.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
It's not ethical if you're raising money for a honeymoon
and then you buy a car with that money, then
then then you collected the money under false pretenses kind
of lie.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
Wow, okay, good to know.
Speaker 7 (17:36):
Yeah, if you specify where it's supposed to go and
then do something else, then that would technically be unethical.
But it's like, yeah, if you just have something like
I think you said you had where it was just.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Like like, if you want to you want.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
A gift here, then that's up to you to use
however you want. You could use it to pay off
the wedding, or you could use it to wait.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
A lot of that.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
You're absolutely right, A lot of people do that. So
when you say the money thing. I think like in
like Polish culture, people will at the end or whatever
of like the wedding stuff, like not the night literally
some do, but like they will go through the envelopes
and like count money and sometimes it's you used to
pay for the venue or the event. My little Maugiennal's
wedding was pay for my mother, my mother in law.
They split the bill, so like, I mean, I didn't
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have to worry about it. But I know a lot
of people do that, especially with the big fancy banquet halls.
Like when Polish people get together like and have these
big fancy weddings, it gets very expensive. So like I've
heard of that happening. So and we talked about this too,
like right, do you pay for your plate? And then
some it's like that whole thing.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
I agree, No, I hate it.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
But like growing up, I like did your parents like
kind of raise you just got to.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Pay for yourself to go to a wedding.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
It's like no, you should just want to have no
and whatever you can afford and and no one's but
like yeah, I've heard that logic before too. It's like,
well you have to give two hundred bucks per person
because because that's how much it costs for you to
be there.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
It's like, well, I didn't.
Speaker 8 (18:54):
Pick out the shitty chicken. That's you make it, and
you invited me. Once you invite someone, you got to
give it up to God. Honey, we can't have all
these rules and expectations. I agree, And I'll be damned
if people are kind enough to want to give me
a gift in any setting, even going back to your
first topic, and I'm gonna tell them what to get.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Or my parameters around it.
Speaker 8 (19:14):
I'll give you the options and you can do whatever
you want.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
I'm with you. You're right, I don't. I don't think you
do have crazy You.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Don't have a right to have a resentment over where
your money goes. But I think I think it's natural
that people do.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Probably I'm certain of that.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
I don't give a fuck. I don't remember what I
gave you, and I don't care how you s a.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Very nice gift.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
I don't. I don't care how you spend in Italy.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
I don't, but it doesn't matter like I don't care,
But I also I don't know. I think it's like
if you if you say this and then you do that,
but really for me, it's more like don't. And I
know that it's hard to it's hard, it's easier said
than done. But like take the trip, like go on
the honeymoon. Don't spend it on a light bill unless
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you're you absolutely have to because you're like in destitute
or something. But I guess my thing is not necessarily
that I get to control how you spend it. It's
I gave it to you, and I think everybody gave
it to you with the sentiment that you'll go and
fuck for two weeks in Italy. That's what I want
you to do with my fucking money. That's what I
want you to do. Yeah, because that's fun for you
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and that's great for your relationship and we'd all like
to be able to do that. So like, don't go
by fucking Hony's at Target. You know what I'm saying, Like,
that's that's all I'm saying about that. Like if I
don't judge you, now if I loan you. That's why
I don't loan people money.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Mean neither I'm done.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
It's either a gift or or or nothing, because I
don't I'm sorry if I give you money, I don't
expect it. I cannot expect to see it again because
I can't allow it to affect ultimately our friendship.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
Yeah, and that's good that you know that, you know,
I agree, that's good.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
It's like, is my friendship to you worth twenty five
hundred bucks or whatever you asked me for? And if
the answer is no, then I probably shouldn't give you
the money anyway, because I think what happens is you
people money and then they don't They either squander it
or they don't pay you back, and then all of
a sudden, now you're not friends anymore. And I would
say that it's probably not a very good friendship if
someone takes your money and doesn't give it back. But
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I just, I don't know, it's a I just I'm
not really in the business of loaning money, and fortunately
it hasn't happened too often where I've had to. But man,
I mean, I've heard so many stories and know so
many people who've been more successful than wildly significantly more
successful than their families, and their families just expect that, Well,
you have a lot more than me, so you'll just
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give it to me, right, And it's like.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
That's not fair.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
No, I agree to be generous with your family, but like,
I don't know at what point I became your caretaker,
like just because I did better, And I don't mean
me because my parents are more successful than I am.
So it's not that's not an issue, thank god. But
I see it all the time where it's what I
see on the internet. The other day, somebody was a
scenario where the parents live far away from their kids
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and they wanted their kids to pitch in on a
house for them so that they didn't have to stay
in a hotel and they could be closer to the family.
So essentially it was like, if you want us around
your family more than to kids, you guys get to
buy us a place to live that's closer so it's
more convenient for us. And it's like excuse me, like
excuse me, Like you're you're still mom and dad? Like
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why am I? And by the way, we're not talking
about you know, Silicon Valley billionaires, we're talking about twenty
The scenario was twenty something, just out of college, you know,
like just getting married and having kids, and it was like, hey,
if you want mom and dad around, then you're gonna
have to front it. It's like, what, No, that's no, No,
you should want to do that, you know.
Speaker 8 (22:44):
Oh yeah, death, money, weddings.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
It brings out the worst in people, it really does.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
It's true, Kiki, we were trying to figure out she's
going to spend her honey fund.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
On of fucking well, then don't. Then don't have a
honey fund. Then just have an account.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
Okay, that's it, problem solved.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
Just mean, I personally wouldn't care if I gave probably
the twenty dollars and it was for her honeymoon and
then she later used it for a burrito.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
I wouldn't care.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Really, No, it's a gift.
Speaker 6 (23:11):
It's given to you.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
I don't care what you doing.
Speaker 7 (23:13):
So as it's in the card, I forget about it.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Now.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
If she's raising money to you know, feed the homeless,
and then I find out she bought a Bentley, yes,
I'm upset about that donation that way, But like a gift,
I don't care what.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
You do with the money, right, You're right, you're right.
It's just like man go on a honeymoon.
Speaker 8 (23:33):
Well, damn it, I'm trying right, I'm on my friend's
registry right now for her wedding and she has an
N sixty four on her registry, and that is what
I will be gifting her and her husband because I
want to picture them playing. I'm not getting plates and
dishes and forks. But I respect it.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
That seems very much like him and Joyce.
Speaker 8 (23:50):
She's a little bit. She's a gamer nerd. Really, yeah,
they both are. And you know he's sober, so there's
not a I mean, she's drinking. So I just like,
I like the idea of them doing that. I think
that's fun and I respect it that they're like, fuck it,
we're asking for an end sixty four because we want
one ask for what you I love it, and you're
not gonna use your china.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
No no reason I say that. It's because my friends
have gotten married.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
You know, they walk around Target with their and it's
like and it's like my friends wind up like like
beef behind their back, you know, yeah, because then it's like,
how the fuck did the how do I remote control
airplane wind us on here?
Speaker 2 (24:23):
It's like, oh yeah, that was no.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
I mean, I respect it.
Speaker 8 (24:26):
Like they're asking for luggage, they're asking for really practical
things that when I think about it, I'd rather my
gift go towards that you'll think of me every time.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Like this makes sense, But then what do you do
when you get significantly older? Like I mean, I'm not elderly,
but if I got I'm forty four years old, Like
if I got married tomorrow, I don't need a toaster,
I don't need linens, I don't need luggage, I don't
need I really don't need you to pay for my
honeymoon either, Like I don't really need you to do anything.
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And I'm being serious like I actually don't, Like if
I got married tomorrow, I would not want any gifts
from anyone of any kind.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
I just don't.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Please keep your money, come to the party, get fucked up,
Like I don't think.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
A donation would be nice?
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Yeah that would Yeah, like an animal shelter my daughter's birthday.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
I did that, the diapers, Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Something like that.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
It's like I'm being serious, like I really have no
need for anything, and I don't want your money.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
I want Why don't you judge.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
Show up if they got you nothing.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
If I honestly said, if if I said I want,
I would have said.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
That we were shocked that nobody people didn't give I.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Am I am shocked, and I'm not sure if I
would judge. I would just be like really right, But
I guess you could avoid that by not asking for
anything and not giving him an opportunity to give it
to you.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Yeah. I literally said, I'm like, I'm like okay with it.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Yeah, Like I forgot who was like set up the
fun thing because they had people who want to send
money from like Canada and Poland and stuff. So it
was very kind of my family from overseas to do
It's very nice. But I was like, fuck, I'll do it.
But I was like, no, being there at my wedding
like just meant the world to me. Eating possible at
my gianos meant the world to me.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
By the way, I don't give like solid, solid food choice.
I mean like, I can't do it again, Like what ever?
I was so excited. I'm like, I mean people can
say this and that about venues and caterers and fuck that.
Pick take me to a chain restaurant and let's eat
some ship that's delicious. I was I've never been happier
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about food at a wedding.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
That makes me really happy.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Dead ass, I'm dead.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
Ass was very good.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
I couldn't eating.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
I'm dead ass, I'm like we are.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
I'm gonna eat the funk out of the lasagnia and
meat whatever it is. I was so happy, and you know,
I was still able to eat. Even though Calin's date
was collapsed on top.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Of me propping her up.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
She was having a time.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
She had the most fun that she did.
Speaker 8 (26:45):
Also, everyone was high at your wedding, and like the
pot had me, wasn't I was like the only one
not high.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
I was, Yeah, I didn't get maybe that's what the
food tastes.
Speaker 8 (26:57):
So how it was high, like to the point where
I was like, people don't even get high?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Were I mean?
Speaker 5 (27:01):
I loved it. I love seeing people have fun.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
They should have sponsored my wedding some cannabis fucking completely
my goodness.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
But that's that's another reason why all of this, all
of this nonsense is probably why if I ever got married,
which I don't see happening, I would elope because I
might tell well, I would have to tell my mom.
I'd tell my sister, my mom she could tell her
parents her, maybe a couple of my best friends we're
talking fewer than ten people maybe, and because you guys,
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but like at the same time, it's because you guys
are family, my actual family. But if you don't do that,
then you it's very hard to justify why you didn't
invite a fuck ton of other people, Like once the
circle starts to get a little bit bigger than mom
and dad and sister, then all of a sudden, it's like,
there are people out there who I am absolutely certain
would be devastated if they weren't included in my wedding.
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And it's not because I don't I don't consider them
equally important. It's because I don't want to do with
any of this book shit. I don't want to deal
with the gift giving. I don't want to deal with logistics.
I don't want to deal with I can't stay at
this hotel or that hotel, or my flights and this
and that and blah blah blah, why did you do this?
And the date's not right and the fuck you, I'm
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just fuck you.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
It's your day to be selfish.
Speaker 8 (28:18):
I always remind people it's your one day of the
year you do exactly what you want, how you want it,
with the people you want to do it with, and
some people make it hurt.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
But on that day, it is really not your problem.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
And that's what we kept telling you, except you took
it a little too literally and tried to have your
wedding on Thanksgiving Day, and there's one to know why
nobody would go to Mexico and Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
And it was like, well, it's not so bad now,
I was ready.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Family.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Okay, how about we don't get married on national holidays?
How about that?
Speaker 5 (28:50):
You know how he feels about the Pilgrims.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
I'm a huge pilgrim guy. I think I'm kind of
more of the Native American side. But it's fine, you know, it's.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
You had to dress like a pilgrim some days, you know,
it's weird.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
I did take a side on it, and it wasn't
that one, but you know, it's fine.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
I was, you do write things, doing hard, very.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Grateful to be here, you know, in whatever form. So yeah,
but that's why I just I think, at this point
in my life, I know too many people and and
and people are and people. There are lots of important people.
But yeah, that's maybe that maybe like a maybe like
a fucking dive bar and it's so fun and a
good band and like let's you know some that's another
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thing and we've been over all this before. My sister
wanted you know, she wanted what she wanted and she
got it and it was beautiful and it was great
and I'm happy for them, and everything turned out wonderfully,
like two weeks before COVID and the whole thing, it
just it was it was all, you know, sort of serendipitous.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
And but I'm like, Amanda, I know what the budget is.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
You could spend a fifth of that and have an
and and everybody would have the night of their lives,
you know, great band, some fucking food truck. And that's
not what she wanted. And so that's what happened. But
like and then you could take the rest. And my
parents were like, here's the money, Like you can have
the money. Like, nice man, you give me that much money.
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And oh yeah, yeah, now I got a vacation home.
Oh I thought about that, and you all ate some
smash burgers from a food truck and they would have
loved it, and Cabrera played true and then we all
go home.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
Like that's you know, amazing.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Yes, I think about all the time.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
If I did it over and I did it in
Chicago instead of Vegas, we'd be at Twist Canteen, and
I have it all planned out. We would be there
all night, you said, the DJ, the band whatever, maybe
Franky J this time.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Make out like a bandit. You'd have all money and
good food.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
I have the top you know guys, and taco guy
that I usually at the house, the other taco guy.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
He. I would be so happy I showed up and
the fucking taco guy was there rolling out tortillas and shit.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
I'd be so excited.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
And you get to wear your comfies.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
Just My favorite weddings are the most chill ones.
Speaker 8 (30:54):
I was drinking out of solo cups on a damn
farm with some chicken tenders and I loved it.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
That's what I mean. Yeah, that's what I mean. What
are you gonna do? You're gonna do a big fancy one.
Speaker 6 (31:03):
Yes, I want a big fancy wedding, and I want
jow Rule.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
To perform wowe, and I'll be there too.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Then you might need a jaw Rule fun for that.
And I'll give to that right now. I'll give to that.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
As long as you say it's for job Rule, then
you're gonna get a bit, You get a bigger check. Yeah,
it's murder.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
I believe that will happen for you.
Speaker 8 (31:24):
I hope so you say it enough that it'll manifest
as much as jo Rule.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
I wonder.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
I'm sure he's so.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
I bet he's a hundred grand. Still, I bet he's
a hundred grand. Let me like, uh, jaw Rule, what
you think?
Speaker 7 (31:36):
So?
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Oh yeah, Franky chased what ten?
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I mean.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
When Wiz said he was getting a million per show,
I was like, wait.
Speaker 6 (31:46):
What, it's the nostalgia people pay for it. He's still
touring by the time I get married. Yeah, might be
in a home, you know, hey.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Go with us.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
By the time I get married.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
I have it booking seventy five, one hundred and ten grand.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
If you want jaw Rule.
Speaker 6 (32:02):
All right, So let's starry how much you got on it?
Speaker 8 (32:04):
I mean he's got hits. I mean, I'll give a deposit.
I don't give a home whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
I mean, but think about it, like a thousand bucks
a lot of money. I was gonna say, if you
had seventy five people in they each game each gave one.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Thousand dollars, we should start that. You should just.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Sell fucking tickets to your wedding, right, Like, here's an
exclusive opera like Fire Festival. Here's an exclusive opportunity for you,
Fred to attend my wedding. And if you want to
sit in the front row five k you give me Jah.
Speaker 6 (32:29):
Rule and for it my way right now's a photo
and Jaw rule that I'll call for it.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
And if you only give five hundred to you in
the bag of that mother bugger. And if you give
one hundred, you're actually serving food there like you were.
Speaker 6 (32:39):
You're working live stream, Yeah, you know you can watch online.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
I think there's something to that you had. This has
to happen. It has to happen now.
Speaker 6 (32:46):
Yes, I've been asking, like I've been saying this since
I was like in high school, like I want to
have for him for some reason.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Now we need Big Tim to pull the tuggar first.
But maybe that's what it is. He's saving up for
Jaw rule.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Maybe that's it.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
That's the reason. That's that's the issue. He's saving up
for Joe rule. It's why he can't propose. Maybe, oh boy,
all right, Well there's the tangent and a true tangent.
And we kind of stayed on topic leak sort of
for once. I guess a lot of us. Yeah, it's
better when we don't. Yeah, fucking thanks for listening. Make
us a preset please on this thing. And then if
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you listen this far, then you were a real one. Yeah,
if you don't follow us on social but if you
listen this far, you probably do all the socials, YouTube presets,
all the bullshit
Speaker 2 (33:29):
We have to say, thank you please, Yeah, all right, bye,
So we were off on Monday, so there was no
tangent on Monday. And I've decided officially that if I
got the choice between Monday and Friday off, it would
be Monday every week.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
But hit the intro. Let's go.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
It's the tangent giving you all this shit we couldn't
talk about on the air, and we're.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Hitting the intro, right, Paulina ro hits the intro. Good good?
Speaker 3 (00:21):
My fillin is here something I say.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Hit the intro and then nothing happens. So that's exciting.
I love when that happens. But it's all good. So
here's my etiquette question of the day in the tangent.
All right, a bride to be has ignited a cultural debate.
They're calling this after her American bridesmaids. Maybe this is
written in the UK reacted negatively to her plan of
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requesting cash instead of traditional wedding gifts. So the bride,
whose family hails from Europe, explained that in her culture,
it's customary for guests to give cash in cards during
the reception of practice. That is, man to help the
couple start their new life together. Makes sense. However, her
bridesmaids were taken aback, we want asking, So you just
want money from everybody. The response led the bride to
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question if her request was offensive. She went to Reddit
for advice. So there's two places to go. If you're
not sure, go to Reddit or come here and then
we'll tell you. Go to Kiki's Court, go to Morality
Monday on a Thursday, or whatever it is. Many users
reassured her that asking for cash is not only acceptable
but increasingly common. Etiquette experts suggest that while requesting cash
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is okay, it's important to communicate the preference thoughtfully, perhaps
through a wedding website or small traditional registry for guests
who prefer to give physical gifts, like my mom, for example,
of a different generation. It's really having a hard time
with the idea of giving people money because growing up
that was rude. It was rude to give people money
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as a gift really for anything. So she's the one
who was still go to the registry. Now our generation,
younger generation, I know, have come to expect cash, and
I'm fine with that because if I'm going to spend
the same amount of money no matter what, then you
can have the money. And I get why you'd want
the money, especially considering most of the weddings I'm going
to these days, or like second and third and fifth
weddings or whatever, so they already have a kitchen aid
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and they already have whatever. And I guess I've come
to learn that the etiquette, like in the Midwest, has
been that you buy something off the registry for the shower,
and then you give money at the wedding. As someone
who doesn't normally get invited to showers because it's typically
for women. Then I guess I've always I don't know.
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I mean again, in the last decade, I've just given money.
But before that, I would have gone to the thing
and I would have bought them something nice off of
the registry, and then it gets sent to them. I
don't have to worry about it or whatever else. And
that's typically what I've done. But I've been shamed.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I've been shamed over the years.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Not by my friends, but people here over the years
have been like, oh my god, that's unbelievable that you
wouldn't give cash. But again, I'm growing up is raised
that cash was a lazy gift. Gift cards were a
lazy gift. Now I give gift cards left and right,
now I'm just mine, just mine. No one else, no
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one else ever gives a gift. It's my party. Truth
it is.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
I love that you Are you kidding that if you
don't give me a gift card, you don't love me
like I love cash, love a gift card.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
I'm also culturally like I think programmed that way for me.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I always hold that it's lazy, but at the same time, hey,
look here's the money. You go get what you want.
It's it does save me from having to come up
with a gift, which I think does lack in creativity
and effort. But I mean, I tend to get a
better reaction from people when I give them some form
of cash or equivalent than I do when I buy
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them a gift.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
It just tends to be the truth. Not from everybody,
but for most people.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
But if you just straight up ask your guests, just
straight up say I only want money?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Is that rude?
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (03:57):
And no.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
I'm a big believer of how you say it.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
And I think we On my wedding thing, I was like, because,
like you said, Hobby and I have been living together,
we had literally but well I bought a house at
that time, the townhouse, right shout out to me. Period
women in stem I had a house ready.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
You period, no one else just me.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
That's her party trick. That's buying property, buying properties, like.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah, that's your next mind's gift cards and mine which
probably wildly in common, and yours is buying property also
not being done.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Yeah, I'm the Barbara.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Corkan of Chicago, as they call you.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yes, people are always saying that to me.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
They're like, hey, I know she took the class, did
she ever pass the real estate examine?
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I'm like, well, that's not important.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Barbara Corkoran in Chicago has real tours at her disposal.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Literally that need to pass it herself. That's right.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
I don't have to call them. I just think it
and they show up.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Okay. So, so you were saying about your wedding.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
So I did something that was like on the website
that I used to like track RCPs or something, and
it was kind of like a wedding fund type thing
where it was just like hey, you know, it was
like written very nicely and it was just like, you know,
thank you for wanting to gift us something. You know,
like if you would like to please like feel free
to do this but like, no gifts are necessary. I
make that so fucking clear, like no gifts are ever necessary,
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period point.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
But let's keep it real, let's keep it on the
one hundred. I get that you would judge the fuck
out of somebody who didn't give you a break.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
I didn't get a lot of gifts actually for my wedding.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
What yeah, I didn't get a lot of people give
you your wedding. He didn't give you a gift.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
But I don't like judge them because I just wanted
them to be there to me.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
And I told you guys this from day one. I
was like, you guys, being there means the world to me.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
To have to take time off of work to travel
pack your fucking chonies and your luggage like that a
lot of work, you know, and if you're a woman, yes,
a lot of chony is to pack. So to me
that meant the world. But I know I don't think
like everybody else, and I get it. I can see
how that can come off rude. I would because I
just would, and you guys all did, and you guys,
it's not half to I'm gonna still beat your butts,
but thank you for that. But like hav and I
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lived together for years already we did the whole thing.
You know, I wasn't quite the virgin anyway. I was pregnant,
so like there was a lot of moving parts. I know,
I know I was not a virgin of right, Yeah,
I were white and I was pregnant. But my boy
is I'm saying, no, I didn't.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
Need a Dyson.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I didn't need China.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
I didn't need these things, you know.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
So I'm like, well, if you're gonna gift like cash
is amazing, because you know we're trying to buy another property.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Your girls trying to like it. I'll move into this house.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Chicago.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
That's what they call me.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
I think.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Is it bad?
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Bad? I like the honeymoon approach where like they have
like a honey fun kind of website thing.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
I kind of like that approach because it's like I
still feel like I'm contributing to something other than just
handing you money. Yeah. I don't care, like you can
just have the money. But it just I don't know,
it makes me feel like I'm not paying your light bill,
you know what I mean? Like any other thing is
I don't know how honey funds work. Do you just
wind up still getting a bunch of cash.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
So you cash out at the end. It goes to
your account, and like technically artist for the honeymoon, but
because I was pregnant, I have postponed my honeymoon by
like three years, so I'm not haven't gone yet. I
probably won't go. Most couples go typically right after they
get married at some point. That's not me, but I
will one day, I will, and I'll take the honey
fund and we'll be gone.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
I guess the other thing about giving people cash is
that while they might they might need it for necessities,
that's not the point of me giving you the cash.
The point of me giving you the money is for
you to do something to celebrate you. So I guess like,
if you can do something that's like in gift form
or honey fund form, if it really has to go
to travel or something, then that way, I'm it's sort
(07:25):
of like your friends are enabling you to do this thing,
as opposed to if I give you. You know, if everyone
gives you a couple hundred bucks, you wind up with
a few thousand dollars or tens of thousands or whatever
you wind up with at the ends. Yeah, you can
buy a house with it, I guess, but you also
like you're not you're not paying medical bills with it
or you know what I mean. Like it's it's it's like,
for example.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
I get it, I get it.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
My godson, it's sort of a distant relationship. It's going
to say at this point, I have a godson, except
his mom doesn't like me very much. Yeah, yeah, that's well,
apparently I was supposed to be like a father too.
I didn't realize that I was supposed I don't realize
I was supposed to raise the kid too.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
I didn't know this. And they take this well, and it.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
Is serious, but like not that like I'm not maybe
that a girl.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
It's complicated because apparently, like you know, he and I.
I still consider him a very close friend, but he
they made me the god father. I don't live there
and and so, and then that relationship became distant because
I got around back, it got around the way.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Back to your boy. Does that that.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Within like six months or a year, I wasn't fulfilling
my quote unquote obligation. It's a spiritual title. And I
actually confronted my friend about this. I actually asked him like,
point blank, what do you need from me? It's it's
it's a fucking infant right now, Like, what do you
need from me to do a better job at this
so that we don't have a problem. And I was
told you're fine, this is not a you problem, but
(08:55):
nothing was ever said to her about it was never corrected.
And unfortunately, what that's done is it's drawn a big
wedge in that friendship. It's it's made me feel very
unwelcome among them. And now the kid is not you know,
he's he's old enough that I could be involved, and
I would like to be, but it's one of those
things where like, am I supposed to just there's a
(09:15):
point to where I'm going with this? But am I
I'm supposed to just knock on your door and engage?
Like in some ways maybe yes, but in other ways
I don't feel welcome. So it's like and and I
don't think this kid really even knows me, So why
would you want to hang out with me?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (09:30):
But anyway, my point is when he was born, I
gave them money. I think I opened an account.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
I did.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
I open an account and I put money in it
and the reason I did it that way is because
I'm they have money, They're fine. But if I'm just
writing checks every year for a couple hundred bucks or
whatever it is, and or for college and it gets comingled,
it's being used for cell phone bills and shit, which
I get, you know, in the long run, in the
(09:57):
long run like it, you know, can try in this
off way towards something for him. But I wanted there
to be money in an account for him.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Then that's perfect.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
That was money that he could see some day, that
was from me and others to him.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Perfect. They closed the account, he commingled the funds.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
No what Yeah, I wonder why that?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
And so it pissed me off because it was like,
I get that you don't need the money, and I
trust that whatever contract, and it's been very little because
again I'm not involved anymore, and I'm a I'm a
fucking deadbeat godfather. I I I Again, it's they're not
(10:39):
they don't need the money, they're not taking the money,
they're not stealing from me. It's nothing like that. But
the symbolic nature of like when he's eighteen years old,
if I put few inter bucks in there every year, yeah,
and then he's eighteen and he's got five grand or
ten grand or whatever it is, and he goes to
college and he has that money and it's it's there,
and it's in his account and it's his Like that,
(10:59):
That was what I was going for, not oh yeah,
you know uncle Fred over the years has contributed to
ten Granted, we are you know, indirectly using that towards
your college education or whatever.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Like to me, that was a big difference. So I
guess if I give you money at your wedding, right,
then does he get used for bills or does he
get used for this shit I wanted to get used for. Yeah,
which is for you to go do something awesome for yourself.
I think life takes over sometimes.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
I was gonna say, I think this is going to
sound harsh, but I don't think it's any of our
business where the money goes.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
And I say, this is my money, it's.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Your money, but you gifted it, so don't like act
like that's you have to like watch exactly where your
penny goes.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
I get what you're saying, No, no.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
You get, but I gave it to him. I didn't
give it to him Yeah, no.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
That to the child was that was weird.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
They should have kept that account going, Like that's my
mom did the same thing. I wouldn't co mingle funds
no matter how tough times are.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Yeah, I gave it to the And again they're a
ceiling for me. I'm not saying they are, absolutely not,
Like I'm sure that he'll be well taken care of
when the time comes in. And many peop live contribute,
but I don't know, Like, you're right, if I give
you money for your wedding, you can spend it on
groceries or whatever.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
But then but then you shouldn't.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
But then if you don't go on a honeymoon, correct,
and you spent all the money that people gave you
for the honeymoon or on other shit, well then it's
hard for me to feel bad for you for not
going on the honeymoon because I gave you money for
the honeymoon.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Yeah, you sound like my husband a lot, because like me, ever.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Since collectively not just me, it doesn't matter me tiny contribution,
You're not going anywhere with my money.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
But you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Like I was since I was little, when I would
get like birthday money or whatever. My mom had to
take it from me because I would like run to Target,
Walmart whatever. I was a kid, write hot topic or
in a hot topic, still a libbylo all these little places.
I'm like, oh, I'm gonna go spend all this money,
and my mom was like, no, we're saving it.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
And I'm so happy she did.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Because I went to college, I had a couple bucks
for like books and stuff, right, And I was like
very grateful about a parking pass, like it was a
big deal to me.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Well, you felt like you had money because she would
give you a little bit of power, yes, and a
little bit of ability to choose your destiny, because when
you're eighteen years old, for the most part, you don't
have shit, nothing, you know, if people have contributed, and
so it's really more symbolic for me.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
But in this case, I don't know, it's.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Just like, yeah, sure, of course, of course you could
spend it on whatever.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
You You're never gonna know at the end of the
day too, so there's no point of overthinking it in
my In my opinion, like when I give you a gift,
whether it's cash or if I give you I've given
you clothes, like running shoes I've given you. I think
it give you like a wind breaker. I haven't seen
that once on you. But I'm not like, where is
it he better wear?
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Well, you obviously are like where is it?
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Well, No, I'm just saying like, I don't know where
it went.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Like you could have donated it, you could have worn it.
You could have I don't know, chopped it up, made
a whole new outfit out of it.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
I don't know what you.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Did with it, but I did. I chopped it. I
sewed myself something different.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
Croptop win breaker you saw, Yeah, that.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Was the one you gave.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
I knew it.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
But like, you can't be offended, I think as the
gift giver, because that's you can't care what you do
with it.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
Maybe you loved it, maybe you hated.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
It, But I said you pictures of me wearing the
gym shoes in the gym, well, yes you had, and
they're warning the fuck I wore. I actually wore them
out to where they had to be replaced. So for
the person who's not taking inventory, clearly.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Is taking inventories.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
I'm just giving an example. I know I've giveed you
other things. I can't remember the rest but I like the.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Gift giving someone a T shirt and giving someone five
hundred bucks for their honeymoon. Yeah again, like, you're right,
I don't have any say over what you do with it.
But then then years later, if you're like, man, we
can't afford to go on a honeymoon, yeah, it's like
we'll not hold on a minute. Yeah, well not hold
on a minute because like people gave you ten grand
honeywe and I get that you prioritize it in another way, right,
But then, like I I don't feel too bad.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
No, if someone's walking around saying like I can't afford this,
but like they had a honeymoon fun, that's very different.
Like but if life life like me where I had
a baby, I can't go to Italy next week. I
have to plan this in many different ways with work
and babysitting, and I want to wait toull She's a
little bit older, so I could definitely leave her and
feel super comfy for like two weeks. But yeah, no,
oh I'm doing that. And you know what the funniest
(14:52):
part is is that I think you and my husband
think so much alike because he's like this, me, I
would have blown that money anywhere and everywhere. That's just
how I think it operates.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Great.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
I know, I know you hate this and you're dying
inside because I know your type, Like how you does
not like this?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Well, because I.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Guess you know you're not doing anything wrong. But if
you're saying people, hey, you can contribute to this account
for my honeymoon, I know, and then you use it
on bullshit.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
It's almost a lie.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
That's your right.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
But like I think the people who are contributing, and
they might contribute a little more because it's like, oh,
this is great. They can get a nicer hotel, or
they can get first class tickets, or they can go
to an extra thing or haven't really and then if
it doesn't happen, it's kind of like, oh yeah, which
is why giving this is This is why giving money
is problematic, because I think most people take some stock
(15:42):
in what happens with the gift that they're giving. Like
how many times have you heard the story of heyes,
my cousin needs five grand to pay the mortgage or
else you know, alone, and then six months later, cousin's
got a brand new car and never paid you back.
Now you gave the loan or you gave the gift,
(16:03):
which is why I always say, if you're going to
give somebody, if you're going to loan somebody money, expect
to never see it again, and you have to be
prepared in your mind for there to be no strings.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
So I don't do money.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
I don't know. I know, I know somebody.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
I know somebody who gave their sister cousin ten thousand
dollars and it was it was it was, it was
for survival. They had to have it at the time
to get through the next couple of months or whatever.
Six months later, brand new car on Instagram. Look at
my brand new car and this person and this person
never paid back. Now, Look, do I think they use
(16:35):
the money for the cause for the purpose that they said? Probably,
but that instead of taking the now they're caught up,
I guess. Or they're really financially fucking stupid.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Very stupid.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
But they're caught up as opposed to paying the person
back who they owe. They're driving a brand new car.
So I feel like people do take inventory in their
minds of where their money is going and whether they
have a right to or not. I think people do
develop a resentment because it's like and not maybe for
a gift, certainly for a loan.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
I don't think you would get mad if I went
and bought a brand new twenty twenty four bend something
something with my wedding money, Like.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
I don't think you'd be thrilled by that.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
You're like, that doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
That's a good question. Is that ethical? That's actually a
very good.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
That's what I'm saying. I don't think it is.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
But that's like it is, either it's not.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
It's not ethical if you're raising money for a honeymoon
and then you buy a car with that money, then
then then you collected the money under false pretenses kind
of lie.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
Wow, okay, good to know.
Speaker 7 (17:36):
Yeah, if you specify where it's supposed to go and
then do something else, then that would technically be unethical.
But it's like, yeah, if you just have something like
I think you said you had where it was just.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Like like, if you want to you want.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
A gift here, then that's up to you to use
however you want. You could use it to pay off
the wedding, or you could use it to wait.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
A lot of that.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
You're absolutely right, A lot of people do that. So
when you say the money thing. I think like in
like Polish culture, people will at the end or whatever
of like the wedding stuff, like not the night literally
some do, but like they will go through the envelopes
and like count money and sometimes it's you used to
pay for the venue or the event. My little Maugiennal's
wedding was pay for my mother, my mother in law.
They split the bill, so like, I mean, I didn't
(18:16):
have to worry about it. But I know a lot
of people do that, especially with the big fancy banquet halls.
Like when Polish people get together like and have these
big fancy weddings, it gets very expensive. So like I've
heard of that happening. So and we talked about this too,
like right, do you pay for your plate? And then
some it's like that whole thing.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
I agree, No, I hate it.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
But like growing up, I like did your parents like
kind of raise you just got to.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Pay for yourself to go to a wedding.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
It's like no, you should just want to have no
and whatever you can afford and and no one's but
like yeah, I've heard that logic before too. It's like,
well you have to give two hundred bucks per person
because because that's how much it costs for you to
be there.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
It's like, well, I didn't.
Speaker 8 (18:54):
Pick out the shitty chicken. That's you make it, and
you invited me. Once you invite someone, you got to
give it up to God. Honey, we can't have all
these rules and expectations. I agree, And I'll be damned
if people are kind enough to want to give me
a gift in any setting, even going back to your
first topic, and I'm gonna tell them what to get.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Or my parameters around it.
Speaker 8 (19:14):
I'll give you the options and you can do whatever
you want.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
I'm with you. You're right, I don't. I don't think you
do have crazy You.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Don't have a right to have a resentment over where
your money goes. But I think I think it's natural
that people do.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Probably I'm certain of that.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
I don't give a fuck. I don't remember what I
gave you, and I don't care how you s a.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Very nice gift.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
I don't. I don't care how you spend in Italy.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
I don't, but it doesn't matter like I don't care,
But I also I don't know. I think it's like
if you if you say this and then you do that,
but really for me, it's more like don't. And I
know that it's hard to it's hard, it's easier said
than done. But like take the trip, like go on
the honeymoon. Don't spend it on a light bill unless
(19:59):
you're you absolutely have to because you're like in destitute
or something. But I guess my thing is not necessarily
that I get to control how you spend it. It's
I gave it to you, and I think everybody gave
it to you with the sentiment that you'll go and
fuck for two weeks in Italy. That's what I want
you to do with my fucking money. That's what I
want you to do. Yeah, because that's fun for you
(20:19):
and that's great for your relationship and we'd all like
to be able to do that. So like, don't go
by fucking Hony's at Target. You know what I'm saying, Like,
that's that's all I'm saying about that. Like if I
don't judge you, now if I loan you. That's why
I don't loan people money.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Mean neither I'm done.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
It's either a gift or or or nothing, because I
don't I'm sorry if I give you money, I don't
expect it. I cannot expect to see it again because
I can't allow it to affect ultimately our friendship.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
Yeah, and that's good that you know that, you know,
I agree, that's good.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
It's like, is my friendship to you worth twenty five
hundred bucks or whatever you asked me for? And if
the answer is no, then I probably shouldn't give you
the money anyway, because I think what happens is you
people money and then they don't They either squander it
or they don't pay you back, and then all of
a sudden, now you're not friends anymore. And I would
say that it's probably not a very good friendship if
someone takes your money and doesn't give it back. But
(21:12):
I just, I don't know, it's a I just I'm
not really in the business of loaning money, and fortunately
it hasn't happened too often where I've had to. But man,
I mean, I've heard so many stories and know so
many people who've been more successful than wildly significantly more
successful than their families, and their families just expect that, Well,
you have a lot more than me, so you'll just
(21:33):
give it to me, right, And it's like.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
That's not fair.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
No, I agree to be generous with your family, but like,
I don't know at what point I became your caretaker,
like just because I did better, And I don't mean
me because my parents are more successful than I am.
So it's not that's not an issue, thank god. But
I see it all the time where it's what I
see on the internet. The other day, somebody was a
scenario where the parents live far away from their kids
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and they wanted their kids to pitch in on a
house for them so that they didn't have to stay
in a hotel and they could be closer to the family.
So essentially it was like, if you want us around
your family more than to kids, you guys get to
buy us a place to live that's closer so it's
more convenient for us. And it's like excuse me, like
excuse me, Like you're you're still mom and dad? Like
(22:25):
why am I? And by the way, we're not talking
about you know, Silicon Valley billionaires, we're talking about twenty
The scenario was twenty something, just out of college, you know,
like just getting married and having kids, and it was like, hey,
if you want mom and dad around, then you're gonna
have to front it. It's like, what, No, that's no, No,
you should want to do that, you know.
Speaker 8 (22:44):
Oh yeah, death, money, weddings.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
It brings out the worst in people, it really does.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
It's true, Kiki, we were trying to figure out she's
going to spend her honey fund.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
On of fucking well, then don't. Then don't have a
honey fund. Then just have an account.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
Okay, that's it, problem solved.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
Just mean, I personally wouldn't care if I gave probably
the twenty dollars and it was for her honeymoon and
then she later used it for a burrito.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
I wouldn't care.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Really, No, it's a gift.
Speaker 6 (23:11):
It's given to you.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
I don't care what you doing.
Speaker 7 (23:13):
So as it's in the card, I forget about it.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Now.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
If she's raising money to you know, feed the homeless,
and then I find out she bought a Bentley, yes,
I'm upset about that donation that way, But like a gift,
I don't care what.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
You do with the money, right, You're right, you're right.
It's just like man go on a honeymoon.
Speaker 8 (23:33):
Well, damn it, I'm trying right, I'm on my friend's
registry right now for her wedding and she has an
N sixty four on her registry, and that is what
I will be gifting her and her husband because I
want to picture them playing. I'm not getting plates and
dishes and forks. But I respect it.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
That seems very much like him and Joyce.
Speaker 8 (23:50):
She's a little bit. She's a gamer nerd. Really, yeah,
they both are. And you know he's sober, so there's
not a I mean, she's drinking. So I just like,
I like the idea of them doing that. I think
that's fun and I respect it that they're like, fuck it,
we're asking for an end sixty four because we want
one ask for what you I love it, and you're
not gonna use your china.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
No no reason I say that. It's because my friends
have gotten married.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
You know, they walk around Target with their and it's
like and it's like my friends wind up like like
beef behind their back, you know, yeah, because then it's like,
how the fuck did the how do I remote control
airplane wind us on here?
Speaker 2 (24:23):
It's like, oh yeah, that was no.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
I mean, I respect it.
Speaker 8 (24:26):
Like they're asking for luggage, they're asking for really practical
things that when I think about it, I'd rather my
gift go towards that you'll think of me every time.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Like this makes sense, But then what do you do
when you get significantly older? Like I mean, I'm not elderly,
but if I got I'm forty four years old, Like
if I got married tomorrow, I don't need a toaster,
I don't need linens, I don't need luggage, I don't
need I really don't need you to pay for my
honeymoon either, Like I don't really need you to do anything.
(24:55):
And I'm being serious like I actually don't, Like if
I got married tomorrow, I would not want any gifts
from anyone of any kind.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
I just don't.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Please keep your money, come to the party, get fucked up,
Like I don't think.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
A donation would be nice?
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Yeah that would Yeah, like an animal shelter my daughter's birthday.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
I did that, the diapers, Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Something like that.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
It's like I'm being serious, like I really have no
need for anything, and I don't want your money.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
I want Why don't you judge.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
Show up if they got you nothing.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
If I honestly said, if if I said I want,
I would have said.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
That we were shocked that nobody people didn't give I.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Am I am shocked, and I'm not sure if I
would judge. I would just be like really right, But
I guess you could avoid that by not asking for
anything and not giving him an opportunity to give it
to you.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Yeah. I literally said, I'm like, I'm like okay with it.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Yeah, Like I forgot who was like set up the
fun thing because they had people who want to send
money from like Canada and Poland and stuff. So it
was very kind of my family from overseas to do
It's very nice. But I was like, fuck, I'll do it.
But I was like, no, being there at my wedding
like just meant the world to me. Eating possible at
my gianos meant the world to me.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
By the way, I don't give like solid, solid food choice.
I mean like, I can't do it again, Like what ever?
I was so excited. I'm like, I mean people can
say this and that about venues and caterers and fuck that.
Pick take me to a chain restaurant and let's eat
some ship that's delicious. I was I've never been happier
(26:20):
about food at a wedding.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
That makes me really happy.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Dead ass, I'm dead.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
Ass was very good.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
I couldn't eating.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
I'm dead ass, I'm like we are.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
I'm gonna eat the funk out of the lasagnia and
meat whatever it is. I was so happy, and you know,
I was still able to eat. Even though Calin's date
was collapsed on top.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Of me propping her up.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
She was having a time.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
She had the most fun that she did.
Speaker 8 (26:45):
Also, everyone was high at your wedding, and like the
pot had me, wasn't I was like the only one
not high.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
I was, Yeah, I didn't get maybe that's what the
food tastes.
Speaker 8 (26:57):
So how it was high, like to the point where
I was like, people don't even get high?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Were I mean?
Speaker 5 (27:01):
I loved it. I love seeing people have fun.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
They should have sponsored my wedding some cannabis fucking completely
my goodness.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
But that's that's another reason why all of this, all
of this nonsense is probably why if I ever got married,
which I don't see happening, I would elope because I
might tell well, I would have to tell my mom.
I'd tell my sister, my mom she could tell her
parents her, maybe a couple of my best friends we're
talking fewer than ten people maybe, and because you guys,
(27:31):
but like at the same time, it's because you guys
are family, my actual family. But if you don't do that,
then you it's very hard to justify why you didn't
invite a fuck ton of other people, Like once the
circle starts to get a little bit bigger than mom
and dad and sister, then all of a sudden, it's like,
there are people out there who I am absolutely certain
would be devastated if they weren't included in my wedding.
(27:55):
And it's not because I don't I don't consider them
equally important. It's because I don't want to do with
any of this book shit. I don't want to deal
with the gift giving. I don't want to deal with logistics.
I don't want to deal with I can't stay at
this hotel or that hotel, or my flights and this
and that and blah blah blah, why did you do this?
And the date's not right and the fuck you, I'm
(28:16):
just fuck you.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
It's your day to be selfish.
Speaker 8 (28:18):
I always remind people it's your one day of the
year you do exactly what you want, how you want it,
with the people you want to do it with, and
some people make it hurt.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
But on that day, it is really not your problem.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
And that's what we kept telling you, except you took
it a little too literally and tried to have your
wedding on Thanksgiving Day, and there's one to know why
nobody would go to Mexico and Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
And it was like, well, it's not so bad now,
I was ready.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Family.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Okay, how about we don't get married on national holidays?
How about that?
Speaker 5 (28:50):
You know how he feels about the Pilgrims.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
I'm a huge pilgrim guy. I think I'm kind of
more of the Native American side. But it's fine, you know, it's.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
You had to dress like a pilgrim some days, you know,
it's weird.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
I did take a side on it, and it wasn't
that one, but you know, it's fine.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
I was, you do write things, doing hard, very.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Grateful to be here, you know, in whatever form. So yeah,
but that's why I just I think, at this point
in my life, I know too many people and and
and people are and people. There are lots of important people.
But yeah, that's maybe that maybe like a maybe like
a fucking dive bar and it's so fun and a
good band and like let's you know some that's another
(29:32):
thing and we've been over all this before. My sister
wanted you know, she wanted what she wanted and she
got it and it was beautiful and it was great
and I'm happy for them, and everything turned out wonderfully,
like two weeks before COVID and the whole thing, it
just it was it was all, you know, sort of serendipitous.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
And but I'm like, Amanda, I know what the budget is.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
You could spend a fifth of that and have an
and and everybody would have the night of their lives,
you know, great band, some fucking food truck. And that's
not what she wanted. And so that's what happened. But
like and then you could take the rest. And my
parents were like, here's the money, Like you can have
the money. Like, nice man, you give me that much money.
(30:13):
And oh yeah, yeah, now I got a vacation home.
Oh I thought about that, and you all ate some
smash burgers from a food truck and they would have
loved it, and Cabrera played true and then we all
go home.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
Like that's you know, amazing.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Yes, I think about all the time.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
If I did it over and I did it in
Chicago instead of Vegas, we'd be at Twist Canteen, and
I have it all planned out. We would be there
all night, you said, the DJ, the band whatever, maybe
Franky J this time.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Make out like a bandit. You'd have all money and
good food.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
I have the top you know guys, and taco guy
that I usually at the house, the other taco guy.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
He. I would be so happy I showed up and
the fucking taco guy was there rolling out tortillas and shit.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
I'd be so excited.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
And you get to wear your comfies.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
Just My favorite weddings are the most chill ones.
Speaker 8 (30:54):
I was drinking out of solo cups on a damn
farm with some chicken tenders and I loved it.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
That's what I mean. Yeah, that's what I mean. What
are you gonna do? You're gonna do a big fancy one.
Speaker 6 (31:03):
Yes, I want a big fancy wedding, and I want
jow Rule.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
To perform wowe, and I'll be there too.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Then you might need a jaw Rule fun for that.
And I'll give to that right now. I'll give to that.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
As long as you say it's for job Rule, then
you're gonna get a bit, You get a bigger check. Yeah,
it's murder.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
I believe that will happen for you.
Speaker 8 (31:24):
I hope so you say it enough that it'll manifest
as much as jo Rule.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
I wonder.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
I'm sure he's so.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
I bet he's a hundred grand. Still, I bet he's
a hundred grand. Let me like, uh, jaw Rule, what
you think?
Speaker 7 (31:36):
So?
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Oh yeah, Franky chased what ten?
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I mean.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
When Wiz said he was getting a million per show,
I was like, wait.
Speaker 6 (31:46):
What, it's the nostalgia people pay for it. He's still
touring by the time I get married. Yeah, might be
in a home, you know, hey.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Go with us.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
By the time I get married.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
I have it booking seventy five, one hundred and ten grand.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
If you want jaw Rule.
Speaker 6 (32:02):
All right, So let's starry how much you got on it?
Speaker 8 (32:04):
I mean he's got hits. I mean, I'll give a deposit.
I don't give a home whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
I mean, but think about it, like a thousand bucks
a lot of money. I was gonna say, if you
had seventy five people in they each game each gave one.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Thousand dollars, we should start that. You should just.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Sell fucking tickets to your wedding, right, Like, here's an
exclusive opera like Fire Festival. Here's an exclusive opportunity for you,
Fred to attend my wedding. And if you want to
sit in the front row five k you give me Jah.
Speaker 6 (32:29):
Rule and for it my way right now's a photo
and Jaw rule that I'll call for it.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
And if you only give five hundred to you in
the bag of that mother bugger. And if you give
one hundred, you're actually serving food there like you were.
Speaker 6 (32:39):
You're working live stream, Yeah, you know you can watch online.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
I think there's something to that you had. This has
to happen. It has to happen now.
Speaker 6 (32:46):
Yes, I've been asking, like I've been saying this since
I was like in high school, like I want to
have for him for some reason.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Now we need Big Tim to pull the tuggar first.
But maybe that's what it is. He's saving up for
Jaw rule.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Maybe that's it.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
That's the reason. That's that's the issue. He's saving up
for Joe rule. It's why he can't propose. Maybe, oh boy,
all right, Well there's the tangent and a true tangent.
And we kind of stayed on topic leak sort of
for once. I guess a lot of us. Yeah, it's
better when we don't. Yeah, fucking thanks for listening. Make
us a preset please on this thing. And then if
(33:20):
you listen this far, then you were a real one. Yeah,
if you don't follow us on social but if you
listen this far, you probably do all the socials, YouTube presets,
all the bullshit
Speaker 2 (33:29):
We have to say, thank you please, Yeah, all right, bye,
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