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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Man, let's dust off the tangent. Oh wait, it's the
same place that we do everything else, so I don't
have to dust anything. Actually place does need dusting. But anyway,
hit the tangent intro thing. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
It's the tangent with the bread show giving me all
the shit we couldn't talk about on air.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
All right, So we have a new intern. Bell Hamene
is what we're calling you. Bella is your name?

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Correct?

Speaker 1 (00:22):
But we thought, well, we had Ben Hamene and then
he's gone. He went off to marry somebody and moved
to some small town America or something. I don't know.
He had other aspiration, so off he goes. And so
we just slid you in and we thought, well, let's
just make it easy. We can't call you Benjamine, but
we'll call you bell Haamine. So I'm sure you love it.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
I do love it.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
And it's kind of funny because it sounds just like
you know, because my husband's name is Benjamin.

Speaker 4 (00:47):
So he's really enjoying that as well.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Okay, so you are twenty six years old. Yeah, you're
from the Bay Area, San Francisco, yes, and how did
you find yourself living in Chicago?

Speaker 3 (00:56):
So my husband used to be stationed in Great Lakes
and we did like the long distance thing. Then we
got married in Wakegan and wow, shout out Walkegan.

Speaker 5 (01:09):
Got finally love Walkean Genesee theater out there.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Love it's fantastic this time of year. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
I got married in a courthouse in Walkeegan. Uh what
age nineteen when I was I've been with Ben since
I was seventeen.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Okay, so and he's the same age.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
He's a year older.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Okay, Well we had to wait during eighteen.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
I guess right. Yeah, he has his fingers crossed.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
Yeah, exactly, So that happened. Then we got married, moved
to Virginia Beach for about a year shout out Shelley.
And then we moved to uh San Diego. And then
the pandemic happened, and he was getting out of the military,
and we were kind of figuring out what we want
to do with our life. And I always wanted to be,
uh a sports broadcaster of some sort. I'm a big,

(02:02):
big forty nine Ers fan, and so I knew that
I had to go back to college. So during the pandemic,
we kind of reflected and decided to.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
Move to Chicago.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Because we were so young and thought it would be
like a great opportunity because we thought this is the
only time we'll be able to do this mine as well.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Okay, our dreams all right, and so here you are,
you know, working with us. What's been your and I
want honesty. Okay, what's been your experience thus far? Have
you had a nice time.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
I've had a great time. I really like spreading COVID
throughout the office last week.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yeah, that was nice. And I thought you given it
to me and that we were gonna have to have
a discussion. We're we're gonna have to have a talk
about that. But we don't have to because I didn't
get it. I didn't get it. I got a little
little scratchy of the throat on Sunday. I'm like, damn it. Yeah,
she fucking did it, and then and then but but
you didn't.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
But I did it.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
But I did.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
She didn't do it. So everything's going to be fun.
I had the HR paperwork ready to go.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
It's going to be the but no, Yeah, it's been
a great experience. I thought that the waking up early
was going to be hard to get adjusted to, but
I'm such a mourning person that it hasn't been that
much of a struggle. I definitely have had struggles with
the technological side. I don't know if you guys have
heard the remixes. I don't know if it's all me.

(03:19):
Maybe some of it could be me.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Are we still having remixes or no more remixes?

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Sadly, I do miss my opportunity to shine. But if
you ever pissed me off, I might remix just.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
So you're just like our.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Last intern was our boss.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
If I ever piss you off and then you do that,
then I'm going to piss.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
Off giving me covididding I'm sorry by finding some other
poor soul.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
No remix.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
So Bella answers the phones and then she kind of
handles like the the kiss FM Cago side of things,
so believe it or not. Like we're in this room
and I won't make it. It's boring and nobody really cares.
But like we we sort of have no idea what's
going on, Like we do our little show and then
it goes in satellite dishes and goes beams to God

(04:14):
does where, and then comes back and then Chicago, you know,
is in a different studio. And then that's what Bell
is in charge of. So she needs to make sure
we stay on the air. Yes, that's that's your job,
and answer the phone and then text back to some people. Yes,
little customer service.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
Yeah I love texting people back, Okay, I really do.
Some people are very creative, and then some people are interesting.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Some people are assholes.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Some people are really have a lot of passion for
six in the morning. I will I've never woken up
and thought I'm gonna yell.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
I've thought about that too. Sometimes I'm like, I probably
should have a little more empathy for the people who
are so angry that they can't even listen to a
silly morning radio show. Who's the ambition is just to
be silly, Like literally, we're just trying to be a
distraction from all the bullshit. And if you can find
a to get pissed about that, you're really pissed.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Why are you mad?

Speaker 1 (05:05):
Bro? It's crazy?

Speaker 2 (05:06):
That's serious.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
You know what.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
It was never that serious.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Never, it was never that serious. It is for them, Okay,
So let's get smutty now, because that's what the tangent
is fair on Central. So you're seventeen years old, when
you meet your husband and he's eighteen. Yes, and I
assume you were breaking the law back then.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
Of course we stayed doing that.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
You stayed doing fun even though. Did you date a
lot before you met him?

Speaker 3 (05:33):
I mean yes and no, not really, I mean being
for being seventeen. I mean I went on dates with people,
but like, it's not like I was actually seriously dating people.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
And so how you meet him and you date for
two years, all before the age of twenty, and you're like,
let's get married. Yeah, why were you so compelled to
do that as opposed to I don't know, maybe wait
a little while and get a little older and see
what happens.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
That's a really good question. I am very determin in person.
So like if I set my mind to something, I
do it. Like I told my family I was going
to move to Chicago, I did it. I told my
family I was going to go back to school, I
do it. I tell my family I'm gonna marry this guy,
I do it. I am very much like if I
say something, I mean it. And in the military, obviously
because he was in it, you assurance, yeah, exactly, Yeah,

(06:25):
But I don't like saying that because then it sounds
like we only married for healthcare.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
But you know there's so there's that added incentive.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
But you know, I know it sounds really stupid and
dumb because we got we met each other when we
were seventeen, but I knew, like right away, I was like,
I'm never gonna make this.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
I'm never gonna let this boy leave. Like I said that.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
And this might be a Bay Area thing, but every
time you cross across the Golden Gay Bridge or like
there's like some tunnels, you're always supposed to hold your breath,
close your eyes and make a wish.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
And I would always wish that me and Ben would
be together.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Oh my god, I ow went in console.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
Every time I see the Golden gate Bridge, I think
about that, and I'm like, oh, my dream came true.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Now you know me, I'm a bit of a thinker
and a bit of a pessimist. I'm scared because has
there ever been a time where you're like that was
too soon, too early to everything? Like maybe maybe we
got a little caught up.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
I mean, like one could argue, yeah, I mean we
were literally nineteen and twenty years old getting married.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
Of course, we were very we were children.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
I look at people now when they get that when
they get married that young, and I'm like, what the
and you but.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
If you ever had that thought, Like, have you ever
sat back and been like, I don't I don't not
love him, I don't not I don't not like him
and all these things, but like, man, I don't really
know what else is out there because it all happened
so fast, so young.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah, no, I've no, that's a fair answer.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Yeah, no, I've never felt that. The only time people
make me feel insecure is when they tell me about it.
But now you know, I've been married for seven years.
I never ever, ever ever wish that I was single
girl looking for a guy like I found. I'm lucky.
I found the perfect person age. That's sweet, Like, I
don't need another forever.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
I don't mean to make you feel insecure about it.
I just think it's it's not a common mindset anymore. No,
that's how it used to be, like our grandparents, well,
my grandparents. I'm probably the age of your grandparents, but
my grandparents that was how they were like sixteen or
something and it was like this is what we're doing, yeah,
and they just did it. And they were married for
almost sixty years, like that's just what everybody did, and

(08:31):
I don't think very many people do that anymore. I
don't think people necessarily go with someone they meet so young,
because I don't know if it's because there's so much variety,
or because there's so many divorces, or because, in fairness,
people change. I mean, I'm not the same person I
was when I was eighteen, than when I was twenty six,
then when I was thirty six, then when I was forty,
you know what I mean. So I think the argument is,

(08:53):
you get married that young unless you've got just you know,
unless you really persevere and make the decision that you're
going to grow together, that I think you're sort of
asking for a lot of challenges.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
Yeah, And of course it's always going to be challenging
because you are growing up with that person, Like Ben
and I grew up together. We didn't just meet and
we're you know, stable adults like we met each other
when we were kids. Yeah, and so there's gonna be
a lot of growing learning curves. And you know, I'm
not even half the person I used to be when
I was seventeen, But I think that we've kind of
stayed similar with our core values and you know, just

(09:29):
growing up together.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
Like, I wouldn't change it for anything.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
I love that.

Speaker 6 (09:31):
See, like I thought I was going to marry my
first love, my boyfriend.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah, like I really believed that.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
And then and then she saw hione to catch your predator,
and she was like, to put that on that poor man.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
No, now I was married.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
He's very much not a child predator.

Speaker 6 (09:48):
But no, I really thought that. So I'm like with
you in that mindset there. But obviously then life happens.
Things happen, and so it is such a feat that
you guys stayed together and he's still the only one
you have eyes for, which is the cutest thing I've
ever heard.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
And I hate and again I hate saying this because
I sound so dumb, but every day I do, I
love him more and more and more, like I really do,
like I genuinely do. I look at him, I'm like,
oh my god, I'm so happy. And I listened to
all my friends that go on their dates. I'm like,
oh fuck that, Like I like.

Speaker 5 (10:19):
Ever miss out like your your I don't know what
you did in your twenties. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
YEA never no, never a face.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Can I ask you a semi personal question?

Speaker 4 (10:30):
Yes, and I know what you're gonna ask you.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yes, he's the only one.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
Yeah, insane Hello for both of you to tell you
something like this radio.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
I mean, I know what you're doing now, roommates.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah, yet still waiting, waiting for the next.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
I see the merit in that, Like, I think one
of the reasons why people get divorced. I think one
of the reasons why people wait to get married is
because there's just so much There's so many options or
perceived options, and it's like, I don't know, if you
fall in love with someone young and you've only been
with them, and I think it takes a lot of
the variables off the table. It's like, I love this person.

(11:17):
I decided to love this person. I've decided to keep
loving this person, and I'm not comparing them to anything
because well, this is what I know and this is
what I like. And you can argue. The pessimist in
me would say, man, there's so much more out there,
like you may come back to him, but how can
you know for sure? But then the optimist in me is, well,
fuck it, you found it, you identified it, and here

(11:38):
you are and it's working.

Speaker 5 (11:40):
Yeah, was there any like anybody on either side of
your family that were just like, don't do this, don't
get the h.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
There was definitely like some pushback. I think people wanted
us to like really think it through. And at the
time that like really pissed me off, Like I was like, oh,
shut up, like you don't even know what you're talking about.
But now, being twenty six, you know, seven years ago,
like I said, I looked and I'm like, oh my god,
I was literally a baby. Like they definitely had their
right to their opinions, and I respect it now, but

(12:08):
I also still laugh in their face, thinking, you know,
that's funny how that works.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
You're new to this whole world, so maybe the transparency
is not for you. And by the way, you can say,
like because we didn't discuss this ahead of time. So
if there's any part of this where you're like, I
don't feel like it now.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
I don't care.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
Like I'm a very much open book, Like whatever you
ask me, I will tell you to your face.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
Well you kind of have to be if you're going
to have any success of doing this. But it's not
for everybody, and I'm just saying like, I'm just trying
to be Just make make sure you understand that, Like
at any point you can say I don't want to
talk about this because it's not a requirement of the job.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
My family expects this of me. They've been telling me
since I was a kid, like this is like give
this girl mic.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Is there any part of you that wonders if there
is like if this is, if certain aspects of that
I'll put it this way, if certain aspects of the
relation chip are the very best your you could ever
experience in life. Is there any part of you that thinks,
I wonder what it would be like to be with
another man or another woman or another person.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
No, I feel so bad. I feel like I could
give much of googler answers. But soft, my soft we
are not soft swing?

Speaker 4 (13:18):
What soft swinging?

Speaker 5 (13:20):
What is that?

Speaker 2 (13:21):
It's swinging without the Mormons are soft swinging?

Speaker 4 (13:24):
Just don't do that?

Speaker 1 (13:25):
You swing without banging?

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Yeah, so what would you do without?

Speaker 5 (13:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (13:30):
What's the if I'm swinging? You dotuff? You know?

Speaker 6 (13:37):
But the Mormons considered just the sex like that's not
no longer soft swinging.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
I'm sorry, but that's that's a group of Mormons interpreting
it how they I'm sorry if you're putting people's penises
and vaginas in your mouth.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Not if you ask Bill Clinton, the rebrand not rebrand.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Bill Clinton knows what he did to.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
The right, they do so. But soft swinging is the wild.

Speaker 6 (14:00):
They're hitting each other's friends, partners, whatever, but they're just
not supposed to bang.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Yeah, I hope your mom is listening to this, but that.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
My loves watching the show about soft swinging.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Oh no, this because that's like some of the girls
I went to college with who were so sheltered growing
up that they would tell you that as long as
it was anal sex that they were still virgins because
because that was still intact in theory. And it's like,
I got news for you.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
I knew one of those two.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
You've been defiled, my good and so you can you
can convince yourself of whatever terms, but the truth of
the matter is by by by virtue of of what
it all is supposed to stand for, you are no
longer pure. And that's okay. But don't try and sell
me some ship like you know, like, well, if you

(14:49):
just do that, then I'm still a virgin.

Speaker 4 (14:51):
It's like, you're a virgin, but put it a mask.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
I would be so upset if I met a woman
and she's like, yeah, every I love you, I want
to be with you. I'm a virgin, but every guy
and that fraternity house has had my asshole, and I
would just be like, worse to me.

Speaker 6 (15:06):
Wait, now, did you guys have sex before you got married? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (15:09):
You did? Okay, Okay, sorry mom, No, so you so?

Speaker 6 (15:13):
Because I was just wondering if you knew how like
I was, you knew what, yeah, what you were getting into?

Speaker 1 (15:18):
No, I know before?

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
I just wanted to make sure you made an educated
I'm just right.

Speaker 6 (15:24):
Okay, they're doing long distance, you know they had to
get it in well, but before they got married.

Speaker 7 (15:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah, No, I'm.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
Happy for you, and I I think that you know,
what you did represents a lot of things that don't
really seem to exist anymore. I don't. I just don't.
I don't even know if people who meet in high
school are even it's even in their DNA to think this,
this could be it. Yeah, because I just think that
the convention is you never marry someone that young. You

(15:52):
never marry the first person that you have sex with
you never marry. I mean, I just I feel like
that's just the norm as where maybe fifty years ago
the norm was the exact opposite. Yeah, because I think
we're a victim of our own It's paradox of choice, right,
Like it's it's there's so many options out there. Well,
there's got to be something better. This can't be the best,
and yet you found someone you're happy with. You think

(16:16):
it's the best, that's all that matters, and you're doing it.

Speaker 7 (16:19):
Yeah, And you also say, well, like we've been talking
about like relationships or like meeting other people, right like, oh,
you didn't really date to me. I see it as
like in my twenties, I was so single that it
was like actually like scary, but because I put myself first,
Like I moved to New York, I moved to LA
Like I had no money and I was just out
here fucking wild in But I also knew I had

(16:41):
a goal of like what I wanted to do, And
my biggest fear was like, I mean I didn't have
an option to get married because if I married my
boyfriend at seventeen, he was a dog dealer living in
a basement, the DJ.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
I mean he was like cool at the time.

Speaker 5 (16:52):
Oh I know, I know, drugs and music.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
He might just be.

Speaker 7 (17:02):
I mean he was yeas a little little dj. I'll
show you guys Facebook. But I just it's actually engaged
to my friend from high school. Is such just such
a crazy yeah. I mean I'm not friends with her,
but like it's a crazy circle. But I just look
at it as like I felt, I feel like if
I would have gotten married or really really serious and
almost doesn't apply to everybody. I think I'm seeking from
my experience, Like I don't know if I would have

(17:24):
been able to accomplish everything I wanted to.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
Like when I was little, I was like, I'm moving
to l A.

Speaker 7 (17:27):
I don't know why I had that like drilled in
my head and I did, you know, So I was
just like if I was married or not, not to
say that I couldn't have done all these things, but
I feel like, knowing myself, I probably wouldn't have.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
And that's just real.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
I think there's something to be said about about living
a time in your life where you put yourself and
only you first. I agree, And that's something that you're
probably never going to do because you can't necessarily put
yourself first because it's part of being in this unit,
in this dynamic, is that you know, you got to
think about his needs too.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
Yeah, and you know we're, like you said, we're a unit,
where a team, and so everything that I want to do,
you know or he wants to do, it's a discussion
on both our parts.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
But luckily he's so supportive. He's so supportive, so he will.

Speaker 5 (18:10):
You know that man helped you out this morning.

Speaker 6 (18:14):
She got a flat tire on the way here, and
he's like, he got out of.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Bed, he got out, he ran, he ran better. Better, Yeah,
you got a good One's his job?

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Better do that.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
You just have to meet him.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
He's so Niceick fil A's, I said, I'll take some
more sauce.

Speaker 5 (18:31):
He was, he was, he was the employee.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
He was employee.

Speaker 4 (18:35):
I was, I was the customer.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Oh yeah was.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
Oh my god, you guys, can we just talk about
that for a second, because I swear to God, when
we were first stating at everything my pleasure, I'd be like, Benjamin,
the fuck.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
You everything more pleasure.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
I try when I go there, I try and get
him to say something else, like just to funk and
be like, oh, and he.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Says that he's so aware of people doing that.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
You're, well, you're welcome. I don't know my pleasure.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
This pleasure is I said it first.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Now my pleasure more.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
It's my pleasure even more than it is your pleasure.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
The problem is if you start conjure getting pleasure, then
all of a sudden you're in jail because I'm like,
I'm pleasuring.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Pleasure. Is it pleasured? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (19:26):
By the way, I think Chick fil A is overrated.
But that's a hot take, you know what, that's a
wild It's very gen z. It's very My trainer got
very upset with me when I because he and this
guy can eat whatever the fuck he wants because he
looks like he does because he runs forty eight thousand
miles healthy he does, but he does like Chick fil A.
And the dude can if he wants to, you know,

(19:47):
run twenty miles and go eat Chick fil A if
he wants to. I just eat Chick fil A for
doing nothing. I just reward myself for like getting up
in the morning.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Sometimes he real nuggets though, Yeah, I was thinking, God.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
No, he eats like the chicken sandwich. But we walked
by one the other day after a run, and I
was like, he goes, you know, I love this place
and I get this and I'm like, honestly, I think
it's okay. I think it's mid. I think it's mid.
Like I'm I'm never mad about a Chick fil A sandwich,
but I'm not like, I gotta have it, and people
talk about the fries like it's the best fucking fries ever.
I'm like, shakes are fire, the shiks are fine. The

(20:19):
mac and cheese, you know they have mac and cheese.
That's a long running Fred Show joke.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
Yesh went over my head. I don't even remember what
you went here for that.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
I think we had it. We did a whole segment,
if I remember correctly, we did a whole segment about
Chick fil a mac and cheese. At the very end,
Angie goes, you know they have mac and cheese there.
We just talked about it for fifteen fucking minutes. I
don't know what you were doing, but something like that.
I don't remember the joke. And he's so upset.

Speaker 5 (20:44):
If I had a trainer and he's just like, I
fucking love Chick fil A. I eat it three times
a week, i'd be fuck you, bro. Well, no, but
that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
If you're gonna look like that, he doesn't eat like
that all the time. He does the work. So that's
the thing. Like, if you're gonna do the work and
you're gonna look like that, then I guess you can
eat stuff like that every now and again, unlike the
rest of us that just eats it like that. I
was thinking about going to McDonald's simply because I got
a working I got out of bed and came to

(21:13):
work today. That was gonna be my reward for doing
what you're supposed.

Speaker 5 (21:15):
To today, McDonald's. Yes, the five dollar meal.

Speaker 4 (21:19):
What do you get?

Speaker 5 (21:19):
Nice? I'm I'm saving money. I get the five dollar
mealgets and a small drink.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
I'm saving money.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
Yeah, I'm saving money.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
I'm saving money.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Of course, I got a refill.

Speaker 5 (21:34):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
But I guess if you're gonna eat that stuff, you
may as well do the workout too. At least it
neutralizes in some ways. I don't know, but that dude
can eat whatever he wants. That guy wants to eat
a Portillo's chocolate cake. The whole damn thing he can,
because then he's gonna go do whatever the hell.

Speaker 5 (21:49):
But if I look like that, chick fil is not
my first option, I'm going.

Speaker 4 (21:52):
To the same Popeyes. So I said it.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
That would be your what's your first option?

Speaker 3 (21:57):
Then?

Speaker 1 (21:58):
If you could eat whatever you wanted because you were
doing the work otherwise, what would be your first choice?
What's like truly gluttonous to you? McDonald's.

Speaker 5 (22:05):
I mean, I love a Culvers.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
I just climax. Don't even talk to me about Okay, No.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
I clean up?

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Yeah, yeah, I gotta stitch my panties. I love Culvers.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
So fucking good it is? It is good.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yeah, it's never bad.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
It's good. There's not one near me, is what's good?

Speaker 5 (22:29):
One lily across the street from my house.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Oh, i'd be yeah, good food by you?

Speaker 1 (22:33):
I do I have a Chick fil A next to
a Culvers.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
I'd be shooting my pants all the time.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
Arby's.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
Oh that's so no, no, no, Arby's, Get out of here,
Get out.

Speaker 5 (22:43):
Of That was my secret meal last week. You're cheating
my secret meal, yeah, Arby's.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Because as we know, Rufio goes and eats something and
doesn't disclose to anyone else. That he's doing it, and
he does it in his car.

Speaker 5 (22:56):
Yeah, I eat get rid of the evidence.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Didn't do that the windows down.

Speaker 5 (23:01):
Yeah. So you want to.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Be a sportscaster.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
Yeah, I still still I.

Speaker 5 (23:08):
Would love it. What do you want to You want
to do the play by player? You want to be
like the color commentary person.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
Well, if you asked me a long time, Like when
I was a kid, I always tell my dad, I really, Dad,
I'm gonna be the first woman to announce Sunday night football.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
And I would do that all the time.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
Now I've like been like, you know, I went to college,
went to uh I got a degree in multimedia journalism,
and now I'm like that sounds like fucking hell. I'm
kind of more into this, like podcast idea. I wanted
to do an idea and I'm trademarking this so if
anybody hears this and they want.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
To take careful right to people.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
You don't have tons of people.

Speaker 6 (23:43):
I mean, you can start one here and we can
literally upload it to iHeart.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (23:48):
I wanted to.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
But here's the thing is I thought of it. It's
like one of those things that Paulina says. I thought
of it and then somebody fucking did it on TikTok.
I wanted to do a podcast for football for the
Girls days and Days because men are horrible explaining football.
I'm just gonna be honest, men are horrible explaining it.
I'm like, you guys make it so such a complicated thing,
and it's really not because you're bothering.

Speaker 5 (24:07):
You're bothering us.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
Know more.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
No, it's such an easy thing.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
And I say I do that.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
I don't know about that just because she's a woman.

Speaker 4 (24:30):
On Sunday.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
You know, what do you honestly do you bell? Do
you really think you know more than him? Yeah? You
should do trivia, you should do a little a little bit.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
But I don't know as much as either of them.
So I'm gonna need help.

Speaker 6 (24:42):
With the questions, okay, because I don't know.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
I still don't know about like rules or like what
would you say?

Speaker 3 (24:48):
I would just say, like football, like NFL trivia, I could,
I could school.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
You have to do it. Remind me that maybe Friday
will do it.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
We're gonna have to do it when he will. He
is such a sore loser, really, oh but so am I.
So maybe I will cry, he will hit things as
you've heard already since you've started.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
Everybody around here's got their things.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
That's real. I get it. I'm out, I call myself.
But he bella like I'm such a But.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
I get when I'm mad, I get really quiet when
he's mad, he gets quiet, but then he also gets
like he really lashes out.

Speaker 5 (25:25):
Yeah, I get you yet.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
I get quiet like you do.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
But somehow you give me crap for it.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
No, no, no, but I'm acknowledging. But it lasts, it
lasts like an hour. I don't.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
I don't when's the last time I've done that. I
feel like I haven't done that.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
I don't think. I don't think I've pissed you off
in a long time. But like it's a it's a process, so.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
It depends on what happened.

Speaker 6 (25:45):
But yeah, I do need to work through things silently sometimes,
and it's not about the other person.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
It's just how I work through it.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
But it doesn't mean that on the other side. It
doesn't feel like you're being punished for an extended period
of time.

Speaker 6 (25:55):
I know, but it's really now that we're talking about it,
it's really just me. I get quiet and have to
internalized things. That's how I work through situations and.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
I get quiet, and then if everyone just leaves me
alone for about thirty minutes, I'm good and then i'm good.

Speaker 4 (26:08):
Oh god, that's my husband.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
But I just but you gotta let me do it,
like you let me do it, and I don't. If
you don't let me do it, it's only going to
get worse.

Speaker 5 (26:17):
I'll forget about whatever.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
But that's the thing. It's over. Then it can be over.

Speaker 7 (26:20):
But like, why let's talk about it.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Trust me, Trust me. Most of the time, you would
prefer that we wait, because if we do it right now,
it's just gonna get worse.

Speaker 4 (26:32):
That man goes to hell.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Now it's communicator.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
I know you're emotional, but like of all the people
on the show, you don't. You don't complain, you don't,
you don't say much of any like. In fact, sometimes
I even have to go to you and be like
are you good? Like are you because I don't know
that you'd ever tell me if you weren't.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
No, I wouldn't. She's good, she's gonna keeping things in.

Speaker 8 (26:52):
Yeah, I've suffered in silence for a lot of years.
Not here now in this building, but not here. You
know what I'm saying so like I and my internship
was nothing like what you're going through right now. It
was unpaid and I got my ass whooped every single day.
So it's nothing that I can I don't. I feel
like there's anything that could break me.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
I'll tell you what. It makes this chair much sweeter though, Yeah,
you earned it.

Speaker 5 (27:16):
Yeah, she don't even remember what we're doing on the show.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
She's the backbone the guy in half the time we
don't know either, repeats what we just said, reads.

Speaker 6 (27:28):
The text opposite, steals the text as his own idea.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Do you know how scared of that I am. I'm like,
I I go out of my way even if I
think I might be repeating a joke. I'm like, I
don't think it's just my joke, but I'm gonna say
it anyway, because the last thing I ever want to
be like, you fucking stole that conscious movement. When I
quote a joke, some asshole will still come sweet up
here and go, you stole that. I said, I stole that.

(27:59):
I rated my off out before I even said it.

Speaker 4 (28:01):
All the time.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Yeah, and everyone's got their thing, you.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
Know, everyone handles things.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
Do you never get mad? Kiki? You never know she does,
but she do the thing is she does.

Speaker 4 (28:11):
She's human.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
I just think it's up to us to be a
little more aware of when that might be because I
don't think she's going to tell us.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
No, no, I'd like to have a good time.

Speaker 4 (28:20):
I like to have fun.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
I don't know. I don't you guys a question?

Speaker 7 (28:27):
Do you guys really think I get mad? Because I
feel like I don't like I get mad, but then
I just like say my little yep speech and then
I like I'm done.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
No no, But you go low when you get mad, but.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
Turn that out. I love you, but when you're mad,
you get a little ship. Mad, you get a little ship.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Give attitude though, or like row.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
Row you will and you can say one thing. I
can say one thing and you'll.

Speaker 5 (28:58):
Say you the worst you want the world every day?

Speaker 7 (29:03):
Well, yeah, you go to work on us.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
It's not very often it happens to me. But I again,
I try and stay out of the way.

Speaker 5 (29:13):
Right.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
You don't want it to happen to you.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
You don't get mad.

Speaker 7 (29:17):
But I'm saying like, I feel like it's hard to
make me actually mad, Like that's understand what you're saying
to my husband that I'm like, for you to piss
me off, like we had to really go somewhere because
I'm just care free. I'm like, okay, something is.

Speaker 6 (29:28):
I mean, I don't get angry often. I just sometimes
have to work through a situation inside my head.

Speaker 7 (29:33):
Yeah maybe I guess say I do choo, but I'm
just saying like I don't get I don't say mad.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
I don't get mad.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
I get what you're saying because I'm like, I'm really
loud and like I always tell my husband's always like,
you're being too Italian right now, because yeah, because I
get so mad and like not mad, but like being
like what the hell are you doing?

Speaker 2 (29:51):
And he's like are you mad?

Speaker 7 (29:53):
I'm like, no, one friend, you're saying like it takes
you for the thirty minutes, like let.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
Me have that. Then we're okay.

Speaker 7 (29:59):
And I think it's why I I bump headline with
my husband because I'm like, no, like right now, just
talk it out. We'll yell with scream and then we're good.
On my head, we're good, you know. But he doesn't
operate that way. So I'm learning in therapy that we're
very different people.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Yeah, I feel like he'll never come back and communicate.
That's the problem. But what I've found is I don't
want to yell and scream. Yeah, and we've talked about
this for a decade on the show, But like, the
problem is, I feel like when people start yelling and screaming,
then they start saying shit that has nothing to do
with what they're mad about. And then we have to
back out of all that bullshit to get back to
the point of why we were upset to begin with.

(30:33):
And we could skip that whole thing if you just
give me thirty minutes and then we could. We're still
gonna have a heated conversation, but it can be about
the topic at hand, yeah, as opposed to and by
the way, I don't know what you know.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
I don't get man, I'm the Queen of England around honest,
I'd be afraid to say something.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Just be great.

Speaker 5 (30:57):
But you're afraid of her, right, But it's like a
sibling like whatever relationship.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
Like I want to ask her how her weekend was, but.

Speaker 7 (31:09):
Right, I know, I'm working on it. I'm sorry, but
I promise you I'm not like genuinely mad.

Speaker 6 (31:15):
You just say the worst thing about ourselves.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
You just go so low to the Yeah, no it does.
I'm sorry, it's okay, I'll work on I love you.
I love you guys, all of you. Just don't take
it to hell for me.

Speaker 4 (31:29):
I'm too sensitive, girl.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
I don't know. Like we've talked about it about this
before too, and I think maybe sometimes some of you
see it as a negative. But it's like the part
of this job, of my particular job of hosting this
show that I never considered was a leadership role. Like
I never I didn't sign up to be a radio
DJ or host to be any kind of manager, leader

(31:52):
or whatever, but it's part of it. And then as
somebody who cares about everybody being happy and trying to
keep everybody at peace, because I wind up like it
makes me feel bad if I think someone's upset and
I assume that they're upset with me, even if it's
like and then I get mad that you're mad about
what you're mad about, and it's like, even though it

(32:13):
has nothing to do with me, Like if I do
something silly and then somebody gets really shitty about it,
then I start to get mad because I'm like, you're
that mad about this stupid fucking thing when in fact,
it has nothing to do with me. It's your process, right,
But when it overlaps and then I don't know anyway.
My point is I never I took for granted and
never considered leading is hard, having to be thoughtful about

(32:35):
everybody's responsibility and to be honest, sometimes I wish I
were like the guys in this business. I know this
sounds terrible because it's not me and it won't be me,
but sometimes I wish I just didn't give a fuck,
because there are there's a time and a place to
give a fuck, and it's not always in this room
on the air, you know what I mean? Like I
can't always cater to everybody's sensitivities at all times, Like

(32:56):
we all have to kind of agree to be teflon
as it comes to performance aspect of it. But yet
I find myself really trying to cater to everyone's needs
on the air too. And I don't think it's a
problem per se, but it's like I know guys who
do this, and it's like when the MIC's on, fucking
deal with it. When the MIC's off, maybe we can
have a conversation about how you feel, you know what

(33:17):
I mean? But I don't know. I struggle with that.

Speaker 6 (33:19):
I think it's better vibes though, if you care about
the people you work with, it's always gonna.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
That's what I want. That's what I want people to
like feel like they enjoy coming here and like we
can all communicate it.

Speaker 5 (33:28):
Yeah, we get along. Like there's some radio shows that fucking.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
Right, most radio, and I'm not saying that's right. And
it's not confusing as to why, you know, because managers
they'll just put a bunch of people who are talented
in a room together and go, well, this has got
to work without even assessing personality differences or anything else,
and that typically doesn't work, because why would it. I

(33:54):
would rather have I mean, I think this is a
talented group of people, but I would rather have B
level talent who love each other than a bunch of
A level talent who all think they're the best and
no one likes each other and it's combative and shitty
all the time, which is to what sometimes happens.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
But yes, cause B levels on.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
I prefaced it. I don't think that about this room.
But the truth of the matter is, I think a
bunch of people that love each other, who are B
level become a level because I think the A levels
who fuck with each other all the time, it's a
shitty show. Yeah, it's not. It's not fun to listen to.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
No, I hear you.

Speaker 4 (34:32):
I'm sea level with my remix.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
I was gonna say, very generous of you all to
think level that generous for me. Ship you kidding me?

Speaker 2 (34:42):
I think everyone in this room is a level.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
I'm the poor man's Ryan Seacrest. I am body sea level.

Speaker 6 (34:47):
I think you guys are all a level talent this
company and as a group.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
Truly.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
I feel that way.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
This company I do.

Speaker 7 (34:55):
Yeah, well I feel the same way taking myself out.
I I agree, No, don't take yourself out times again?

Speaker 6 (35:02):
USh, No, you you are all a level talent as
an ensemble as well as an individual.

Speaker 5 (35:09):
God Kaylin for the way.

Speaker 4 (35:10):
Am I able to ask you a question?

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (35:13):
Okay, yeah my first question get let you guys showed
up and I'm kidding, we don't.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
We don't do that, don't.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
So I okay, So there's like a I like answer
a lot of the messages and stuff, and I see
so many people like pouring in saying like how much
you they love us and love the show. Like does
that Do you ever think about that before you go
on air? Because every time I see it, like, that's
like the so sweetest thing that like people like I
have memories with my mom driving me to school where
we would listen to morning radio, and I just think

(35:44):
about how, like you guys are a part of people's
drive in the morning, and like how you're kind of
making those memories with those people.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Not me. It means a lot. It's it's the it's
the nicest compliment. It's the it's the biggest compliment.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (35:56):
I think about it when like a listener will DM
me late or something that they know specifically I like,
or you know, we have those interactions or we met
some listeners at AVROL last night and they just remember
things and they ask about our lives. Like that's when
I really feel because I'm like I in this room,
I don't think about the fact that we're talking to

(36:17):
other people.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
I'm just like talking to my friends.

Speaker 6 (36:19):
But when I have those interactions, I'm like, wow, you
like really thought of me when the show wasn't on.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
And wanted to send me a cow video. You know,
Like that's when I really think about it.

Speaker 7 (36:28):
Yeah, And I personally, and I think a lot of
us are agree to. When I see those, that reminds
me of my why of why I do this, and
I think of it that way, being like obviously like
we got into radio. Like I think everyone here can
say we love music, But to me, that's such a
generic like sentence like Okay, well everyone my grandma loves
music because she didn't do radio, you know what I mean,
Because I see it as like she, well I should have.
But I look at it like, I know, shout out

(36:50):
to my Grammy, took Grammy well to Bacha. Yeah, but
I look at it like that to me makes my
day more than anything because they can listen to literally
any other station, any other whatever. You know, our phones
have access to literally anything we want, but they choose
to listen to this same you know, and that's just
reminding me of like why I do this and why.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
We do this.

Speaker 5 (37:08):
Yeah. I love the ones where there's like, oh, I
was having a horrible day and then what you guys
said just made it so much better, just like whatever,
just and we're half the time it's bullshit, like it's
just fucking us goofing around and they love it.

Speaker 6 (37:22):
So Yeah, A girl dms me her boyfriend was cheating
on her for five years and she just broke up
with him, thank god. But she said our show is
the like thing keeping her thoughts from raising, you know,
they're were keeping her company. And I just thought, oh
my god, because I have podcasts like that for myself,
you know, because I'm not gonna like re listen to
us all day. But that was so special to me.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
I don't know. I think it's it's like it's hard
to explain that to somebody. And I feel like more
and more, you know, for being really candid. More and
more when I meet people younger than me, uh like
like in a dating situation or whatever, I get a
lot of and I don't know if they're doing it
to fuck with me or if they're just dumbasses or what.

(38:06):
But it's like, oh, Radio, like is that still viable?
Like you can still pay your bills doing that? And
it's like, well, first of all, we're at a very
nice restaurant that I'm paying for, So the answer is yes.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
And you've seen my condo, bitch, well you'll see it
for a short.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
Period of time that happens, like, no, it actually doesn't
pay well so you're paying for the meal, right, Well,
there you go.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
I've thought about it, and I've thought about it before,
I really have. I've had people tell me that radio
is basically bullshit, and then they asked me for things
two or three weeks later that that they know only
I can get, and it's like fuck you and I
and I'll And by the way, I have no problem
telling reminding people, Oh wait a minute, I thought what
I do was bullshit. But then then what happens is

(38:48):
they turn that into oh, you know, he gets pissy,
he gets defensive. He's because anyway.

Speaker 7 (38:53):
Yeah, I am defensive by my employment.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
It's but it's hard to explain to people without sounding
like you have some form of God complex or self importance,
that stuff like that, that the show matters to people
as much as it matters to us, and that we
know we have this core group of people that we're in,
this concept that we're going for and trying to get people,

(39:17):
trying to distract people from everyday life, which is not
always that much fun, and that's it. And it's just
I don't know, sometimes it's hard to describe that to
people without making yourself sound self important. I don't think that,
but I do know that that's what the show does
for people, and that is rewarding to me.

Speaker 6 (39:35):
Yeah, And like when people bring up podcasting, it's like, well,
we do essentially a podcast. We do a podcast on
the air, and then it is on an app for
you to consume if you want to consume it later.
It's literally formatted like some of the podcasts are formatted.
So it's like radio isn't that different. You know, it's live,
it's every morning, every car, it's the world. It's in
the car is a big deal.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
I think there's an expectation of radio, what radio does,
what morning radio. I still think that's present. It's a
companionship thing. So yes, we can play in all those
other arenas, and we do. But I don't know, And
that's hard to explain to somebody who for whom that
has no meaning. But just because it has no meaning
to the citygoer, you know, or the city dweller, you

(40:17):
know what I'm saying, The person who lives in the
city doesn't have a car and doesn't drive, just because
doesn't mean anything to you, doesn't mean that it doesn't
mean anything to hundreds of thousands of people every day.
And so like, but that's a hard thing for me
to say about me, you know. So I just kind
of sit there and I'm like, well, I love it,
and you don't know. I guess my lifestyle speaks for itself.
I don't know, but it's hard to communicate that to

(40:40):
someone who doesn't get it. Without it would be like
a brain surgeon explaining to you why they're so important.
It's like in a very different way. I mean, they're
saving lives, but it's just like you don't need to
get it. I get it, and that's, you know what
I'm saying, Like, that's what's important. I shouldn't have to
explain to you why my job fulfills me and why
I think it fulfills other people too. It's just a

(41:01):
hard thing to do. Yeah, And I get it. I
get it. It's not like it was when we grew up,
when morning radio was it. When in the car you
had like five or six choices and that was it.
You know. Now I get there's a thousand choices, But
I don't think that necessarily means that what we're doing
is any less quality. It's just there are just other

(41:21):
options too. But I don't know that for some reason.
It's just not a fight I'm willing to get in
with people. It's like, if you don't understand and you
don't get it, then I'm not here. I'm not going
to explain it to you.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
You shouldn't have to to sure find your job.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
Yeah, but I mean I could say the same thing
about a lot of other people's job. I was going
to say, well, who the fuck are you?

Speaker 6 (41:39):
Right?

Speaker 2 (41:39):
You just copy and paste all day, do numbers.

Speaker 4 (41:43):
You just do numbers, right.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Like literally, I watch you. You're on an Excel. Trust
you copy and paste and write numbers.

Speaker 6 (41:49):
Like.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
The other thing is like, we use this platform. One
of the best and I mean this, one of the
best parts about the job is that we built the platform,
and then we can use the platform to promote things
that are important to us and to the community, right like,
and and the community can use it to promote stuff
that's important to them. Not everything we talk about on
the air, you know, applies to us directly, but whether

(42:10):
it's the animal rescue or the pediatric cancer or Lori
Children's Hospital or Children's Hospital in general, or or the
USO or first responders or any other any other number
of topics like we we've earned the right, we've built
the audience, and now we can use that for good.
And again that's that's like a patting myself on the

(42:32):
back thing. It's hard to explain to someone without sounding,
you know, self important, but that means a lot to me.
It's a big part of this. All jokes, all and
all the bullshit and big opinions and stupid arguments that
we get in and and all that lab mouse shit
is secondary. That's the entertainment part, you know, and and
but then there's the other stuff. There's the outreach in

(42:53):
the community part of it. That is really like when
people when we go to an event and five hundred people,
you know, take time out of their day to show
up and listen to us talk. It's it's unfathomable, unfathomable
for me to understand why anyone gives a ship. It
really still is the same, It really still is. But
damn it, thank.

Speaker 4 (43:10):
You, literally, thank you.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
All right, Well, Rufio is wrapping me mainly because I
guess we've been out of time for the record. There's
not enough tape left on the tape player. Record. All right, well, welcome,
thank you for your and uh wow, the first podcast
and already an anal sex reference.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
So you yeah, welcome.

Speaker 4 (43:32):
Yeah, my mom's gonna love that.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Well, I warned you, I warned her. I asked you
for permission. I just took the the whole Uh what
what was it? Was? The training? I just took harassment.
I just did a whole harassment training. I asked, so
before I asked you, before I did it, I asked
if it was okay? Yeah, yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
Actually really uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
So don't say that.

Speaker 5 (43:56):
Don't joke about that ship now, all right, well take
that part out.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
Well there's the tangent for those of you. Sorry it's
been a while, but tell your friends about the tangent.
Oh and if you listen to this, make sure you're
listening to the iHeart app to the show. If you
heard it on the air, feel free to listen to
it again because you may have missed something. And then
if you heard it twice, then then go to TikTok
and watch it again because they may or may not

(44:24):
be paying attention to all that shit. But thanks for listening.
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