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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So you can make us a pre set here too.
I guess the Tangent are off their uncentsored podcast because
if you listen to this, you're a real one. You
are super fan. You are a super fan. You were
towards the top of the thirteen if you listen to
this thing. But you can make this a preset. You
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also where if you listen to us the main station
a preset too, So please if you would on the

(00:20):
iHeart app, let's do it. It's the Tangent giving you all
this shit we couldn't talk about on the air.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Guys, did you guys ever have a guys? Guys? Guys, guys,
did you ever got this? Guys? Did you guys?

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Did you ever have a crazy spring break trip? Like
in high school? Because I realized or college, I guess,
I guess once you turned twenty one, you know, you
go to spring break somewhere. It's not that big of
a deal because well it's legal, you could do it anywhere.
But I feel like in high school and early in college,
it was the kids that were going to Mexico, and
it wasn't that I wasn't I don't know if maybe

(00:52):
I wasn't allowed to go. I don't think it was that.
I just I don't know. Maybe I wouldn't have asked
my parents. Maybe either, maybe I never got and fighted.
I mean, I went to school with four people, so
I don't mean, you know, if the other three didn't go,
I guess I picked you.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Whatever. What did you do though? What was your crazy
spring break?

Speaker 3 (01:08):
We went to Mexico? Okay, yeah, we went to Mexico.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
Some parents obviously went to chaperone, but not everyone's parents went.
My mom was the chaperone for my best friend Shelby
and I, which is a big undertaking when you're responsible
for somebody else's kid. Who is you know, experimenting with
booze for the first time.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
So yeah, that would be That would be weird because
I feel like if I'm a parent, maybe i'd be
then I'm thinking out loud because I'm just not and
not even in that space. But if I were taking
kids to Mexico with me, with my kid, I feel
like I would talk to the other parents and be like,
what what is the deal here? Like what what can
I get away? Not what can I get away with?
But like if you find out that your kid had

(01:48):
a few coronas like are you going to be mad
at me? Kind of thing, because I guess I would
ask ahead of time, and then I would expect that
the parents would trust me to know where to cut
them off or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
But there's always going to be the one kid. It's funny.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
My sister took a bunch of her friends when she
was in high school and I was much older, because
I'm seven and a half years older, so to like
California or something, and and I went because my parents
were there and my aunt and some other people. It
was kind of like a family trip. And then she
invited some of her friends and my parents were like,
if they want to drink, that's fine, you have to
watch them go.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
You can go buy it.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Everybody's parents know, like whatever, And everybody like had a
couple of beers and had a good time. And there
was the one girl puking in the fire pit because
she had thirty drinks instead of two, Like there was
always the one kid that was.

Speaker 5 (02:28):
My best friend here that had to really Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
There's always was always the one kid that had to
take it too far, you know, everybody else And by
the way, that same person exists at the office too,
Like if it was ever an office open bar or
in an office holiday party, you know, everyone gets like
seasonably hammered. Yeah, I were like reasonable, you know, like, hey,
we're it's still a work function, right, We're having a
good time, but we're not like, you know, we're not

(02:50):
going to promise this afterwards or whatever. And there's at
least there's always at least one or two people that
get absolutely fucking shit faced.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yeah, every work function.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
And you're like, dude, why you know what what possesses
you to Like why do you have to have fourteen
drinks and the rest of us had three?

Speaker 2 (03:10):
I don't know, but that was your friend.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
That was my friend. Yeah, So it was tough on
my mom. I mean, she like had to watch, But
our families were close and we kind of grew up together,
so it was kind of just like they were grateful
that my mom was willing to put up with that,
I think. And it was also the first time my
mom had seen me drink or like her seen what
I was like drinking, and it was weird. My sister
actually is going on her first like college woo woo
spring break next week to Cancun and no parents are

(03:34):
going obviously because it's college.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
So that makes me a little nervous as well, so
you know, scary times. But yeah, no, Shelb, we got shell,
we got a little wild.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
You guys ever went though you never went on spring break?

Speaker 5 (03:46):
I would never let me.

Speaker 6 (03:47):
Oh sorrykay you first I was looking at Kiki, but
I was for our show.

Speaker 5 (03:53):
Yeah, we have a show that we have to do well.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
So you're working and not paying attention. But then still
I know, I got it. Have to do work for
our show. We have to do work for does anybody
else work?

Speaker 5 (04:06):
He took off, so I have to do it. Yeah,
comes in and does the work.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah, you know, I love you to death, But if
you were working on something else and not focusing, then
you could let someone else talk. I guess I'm sorry,
I know, I know you forgive me Kiki.

Speaker 5 (04:21):
Anyway, what do y'all think about tipping? I cannot myself.
But we didn't really have a like a real spring
break to like Mexico or anything.

Speaker 7 (04:31):
But in high school we would go down to Southern Illinois, Carbondale,
and they had this thing called Player's Ball, and.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Carbondale, Illinois was the sexy destination. I mean it is
a sexy destination. We've been there for.

Speaker 7 (04:46):
A bunch of college, high school students and college students.

Speaker 5 (04:48):
Everybody would go down to s i u C.

Speaker 7 (04:51):
And they had this big party called Players Ball, and
I was so excited to go for my first time.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
And you were in high school going to this senior Yeah,
this sounds this sounds like a like a sex offender. No, no,
like this, this sounds like a problem waiting to happen.
A bunch of seventeen year olds hanging out with a
bunch of college kids grown ups.

Speaker 7 (05:11):
Yeah, and everybody would pile into somebody's car because it
would be like one or two friends that actually had
a car that could get us all the way down
to Carbondale. Was just a four hour drive from Chicago,
and so when we got down there, we would stay
at whoever had an apartment or whoever had a dorm room.
We would all sleep in there, and then everybody would
go to this big party called Players Ball. So we

(05:31):
did that, and that was the first time I got
like drunk, drunk, Like I woke up and I was
in somebody's bed with my with my friend.

Speaker 5 (05:38):
Oh okay, we're fully clothed. Everybody had clothes on.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Everybody. Everyone goes until you find out there was another
friend there, and then.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
There as you guys check on each other.

Speaker 5 (05:50):
I don't think a sexy story like you've got to
see me.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
With a man.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
No, no, no, no, man, car I didn't hang out
down there more apparently.

Speaker 7 (05:58):
But yeah, we were in somebody's like dorm apartment, and
we woke up, like we woke up and the rest
of our crew they had gotten drunk too, but they
didn't get to the point we got. So we were
the friends in the bush, like the one too, and
they left us. But we woke up and this we
went to puke in this man's bathroom and his tub
was covered in dirt, like body dirt. The toilet was disgusting.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yes, that would have made me puke.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
It was gross.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
So then we just.

Speaker 7 (06:25):
Threw up in his sink and my god, after that,
you know, I just I changed my life for the better.
But yeah, that was my wild spring break. That's and
your friends left you there, Yeah, the two of us
because they were like, we got drunk early in the
day and then we were supposed to go play, you know,

(06:47):
out again.

Speaker 5 (06:48):
That night out and we were passed out. Yeah, so we.

Speaker 7 (06:50):
Woke up like, okay, let's do this together, and then
we healed up. They came back and we went on.

Speaker 5 (06:56):
To do it again.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
We healed healed.

Speaker 5 (06:59):
That sounds weird, but yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
What were you drinking because I'll still remember the first.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
The stuff that we used to drink. When we were
first drinking, it was like one on Earth.

Speaker 7 (07:07):
Seagrums gin and New Amsterdam. New Amsterdam had just come
from vodka.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
It's vodka.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yo's a New Amsterdam.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
The kind of vodka that comes in like the crinkly
plastic bottle or is it not or is it glass?

Speaker 7 (07:22):
Oh yeah, Seagrums is the one that looks like it's
like rain paper. It's like very I'm.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Just thinking of the kind of crap we'd buke if
we didn't have any money, you know, in college or whatever.
It was like at the end of it, you could
like actually crinkle up the bottle like it was.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Like hop off right right right right. It really bad stuff.

Speaker 7 (07:39):
I was drinking out of a measuring cup because they
didn't have any clean dishes of this.

Speaker 5 (07:43):
Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
Yeah, see that's why COVID didn't take you down, right,
the places we've been.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
What are you gonna do with though?

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Because I know she's obviously you know she wants she won.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
She's one.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
I always forget how old everybody is, so she's almost won.
I'm trying to keep try. I need to make a
little diagrammers. I need diagrams or everything the children. But
so we got a little waste. She probably won't drink
till she's at least four or five, But so we
had a couple of years ago. I mean, she is
Mexican and Polish, so I mean, let's face.

Speaker 5 (08:14):
It, but I've met her grandparents.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
But do you.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Like people think this is controversial and I don't. But
my parents were pretty liberal about the drinking, especially on
vacation and not really at home. It wasn't like, you know,
when I'm fifteen, come home and bust open a beer
with that or whatever. But I don't know, if we
were having a barbecue or something, it'd be like, you
can have a beer. If we went to Mexico, they'd
let me go a little too far under their supervision.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
And so then.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
When I got to college and there was no one
there to sort of monitor that stuff, I don't know.
I wasn't really impressed, because not that I didn't get hammered,
but like, I don't know, I kind of knew my limits.
I knew what it felt like. I didn't there wasn't
the experimentation was over. And I did that in the
presence of people that were watching and cared, unlike some
of my peers who had were not They were repressed

(08:59):
and not allowed to do any of that stuff. They
go to college, they go buck wild and they want
up not going to class, failing out like literally like
not showing up and the yeah, total fucking degenerates and whatever,
and so people used to say, like, I don't know,
I like, I wouldn't. I think that's a little crazy
to your parents let you kind of drink in some ways.
But I thought it was a really good idea. I'd
probably do it if I had a kid.

Speaker 6 (09:20):
I think about that a lot, and I get scared
because I don't want her to like do it behind
my back, even though she will or like do it
in front of me. We're to the point where having
you know, Martini's at dinner, like like you know, she's fourteen,
Like no, but I just I don't know. I guess,
like I'm open to it if like we're somewhere at
the house. I don't know, it's like a barbecue or something, maybe,

(09:40):
but i'd prefer to her for her at least to
be like on a high school at least be eighteen.

Speaker 5 (09:45):
I don't know. I just don't want to encourage it either,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (09:47):
But we all know she's gonna probably do it like
we all did it like because people.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Think that's enablement, and I suppose you could see it
that way. But I also think if it's gonna happen
no matter what, then you may, as in my opinion,
and you may as well sort of supervise the process
as best as possible so that the curiosity isn't being
explored away from you.

Speaker 6 (10:08):
Yeah, I don't want her to go to college and
then like, yeah, like flunk out or some shit, you know,
because she's drinking or leg going crazy or feels like
she was deprived or something.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
The tight of the rules I always saw was the
crazier the kid.

Speaker 6 (10:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:18):
I saw that in high school, my friend Shelby. They
kept trying to make her curfew earlier and earlier, so.

Speaker 5 (10:24):
She was at like nine pm.

Speaker 4 (10:26):
But what would happen is she would get drunk and
then someone else would have to drive her home. Someone
else would have to drive her car because they just thought, oh,
we'll ask her to be home early and she won't drink. No,
she would get wasted and then have to drive. Like
it was more dangerous, you know what I mean. So
there's a balance, I guess.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
But yeah, my parents were like, I know you're going
to drink. This was in high school. I know you're
going to drink. There weren't ubers and stuff. We don't
really have taxi cab Like, it wasn't that kind of city.
It was more you know, suburban, I guess. And so
their thing was like, if you get hammered and you
need to ride, then there'll be no penalty. If you
call us and we'll come pick you up, like there'll
be no questions asked about that. But if you're an

(11:05):
idiot we find out you're drinking and driving, then you're well,
actually we'll castrate you.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
But if you're the d D, then you do get
in trouble.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
I also got in trouble for that's a very famous story.
It's been told on the show many times over the years.
But yeah, I was the d D. I was with
a bunch of friends from it was another high school actually,
because again I ran out of friends at my high
school because I went to school with the same forty
three kids for twelve years literally, So I made friends
at the public school. And we were in a park.
I mean, we were idiots. We're in a public park

(11:33):
drinking beer like morons at ten o'clock at night. So
there's no one else in the parking lot of the park.
It's closed, and so the Scottsdale Police Department come. They
come rolling up in full force, you know, because something exciting.
Oh there's kids in a park, you know. And I
swear they had the chopper out because everybody ran but
my car. It was my car in the parking lot,

(11:55):
so I couldn't run, So I kind of just sat there.
And I wasn't drinking. So I'm like, well, this is
no big I'm not drinking. I'm being responsible, Like, I
know there's beer there, but like most of the kids ran,
a couple stayed. They had the they had the chopper.
They had the ghetto bird out in Scottsdale looking for
these kids that ran because they had beer. Anyway, so

(12:16):
they made us dump it all out, and then they
were like, well, whose car is it. I'm like it's
my car, and they're like, are you drinking? I said no,
and they like kind of looked at me and they're like, okay,
I won't smell anything on you. You look fine. So
they made us all sit on the basketball court. I'll
remember this, and they called all of our parents and
and I'm like, I'm so fucked, like my parents are
going to be so angry with me. And sure enough

(12:38):
they come down there and they're pissed and they drive
me home. They ground me for six weeks and I'm like, you, guys,
I get it. I shouldn't have been drinking. I shouldn't
have been drinking in public. There was no ticket issued, nothing,
and I was the only one wasn't driving everybody. I
was a destinated driver. And they're like, well, you embarrassed us.
You shouldn't have been in that situation to begin with,

(12:59):
and they punish me. Turns out now that they tell
the story that I'm growing up. The cop actually called
them and said, hey, your kid's the only one here
who's not fucking up. We're gonna cut him loose. Like
in fact, we almost kind of want to pat him
on the back because it's like, oh, I don't want
to penalize this guy because he didn't do anything, like
he's actually only one's not drunk. And my parents like, nope,
hold on to him and make him sit there for

(13:20):
a while. We're gonna come get him. He'll learn his lesson.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
My mom would kiss me on the mouth if I
was a d D because I never.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Was got that was kind of what this guy was.
I'll never forget it was.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
He was old guy cop and he was like, you know,
he's like, you guys are a bunch of idiots drinking
in public, Like what are you doing? You're gonna get caught,
Like be smarter about your alcoholism. You know you're under
this drinking.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
You know. They were like whatever.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
But again he told my parents like, I don't know,
we should cut this guy loose at an example. She's like, no,
we're going to set an example.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
And they didn't make you blow thought.

Speaker 5 (13:50):
No, wow, that's also a dream.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
I don't even know if in nineteen ninety seven if
they had that right, but then they did they did,
But I know, I guess the guy was like this
guy not drunk I don't know, Like, dude, I didn't
drink anything.

Speaker 7 (14:02):
You were drinking beer like it was beer. Was like, yeah,
I was out there with little pints. Did you ever
test the theory that your parents said, like told you like, oh,
if you're ever too drunk, call us and we won't
ask any questions.

Speaker 5 (14:12):
Did you ever test that out? I was just scared.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
No, yeah, it's a lie.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
No, No, but I just I don't know. I say
this all the time. I was not afraid of my parents.
I was afraid of disappointing. They were very effective at
making me afraid of disappointing them. That's what I did,
which is different like because my parents I've said this
before and my mom's like, you make it sound like
we beat you or something, which they did not. They
were hard on me, but they were very loving and supportive,

(14:38):
as they still are. But but they were very effective
at being like, hey, you want to have premarital sex.
Sets fine. And it wasn't even premarital sex. I think
it was more like you and have se do you
and have sex in high school?

Speaker 2 (14:49):
More than that? But I say that, but well I
got married when I was.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Having pre marital Still I do it all the time, right,
you really have premarital sets?

Speaker 2 (15:05):
I do, funny, no, but I think their.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Thing was like it was like, and my mom bought condoms,
which my dad, which pissed off my dad because she
took it upon herself to go out and buy condoms
for me when I was thirteen. They were magnum condoms too,
which I'm like, thanks mom for guesting me up, you know,
appreciate that. And my dad apparently was pissed about it
because he's like, well, you're basically telling him he can
do it, and her thing was, no, I'm not, but

(15:33):
you know, if he's too embarrassed to buy condoms like
a little dipshit, then at least he's got him if
he's going to do it. But they were very effective.
They never told me don't do it. They never said
to me, don't do anything. It was just if we
catch you doing it, or if you you know, get
it to ui it's seventeen years old, or you get
somebody pregnant at seventeen and this is not true, but

(15:56):
they basically were very effective in saying your life is fucked,
you're fuck like you're done, and you're fucking us, and
like it so don't you know, don't put us in
that position very effective?

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Did not want to disappoint them.

Speaker 6 (16:09):
You remind me so much of my husband, Hobby, because
that's the big thing with him too.

Speaker 5 (16:13):
It's disappointment.

Speaker 6 (16:14):
He like his whole life is. I just don't want
to disappoint them. Didn't want to do that. That doesn't
work on me right personally, Like, yeah, my mom would
tell me that, and that didn't never.

Speaker 5 (16:23):
Work work on you, like it got my ass be
that worked?

Speaker 2 (16:27):
It did?

Speaker 5 (16:27):
Yeah, oh yeah I would.

Speaker 6 (16:28):
So it's wild too because like I would never I
look at like children like my kid. I'm like, I
could never imagine raising my hand to her. But I
don't know why my parents did that. But like, yeah,
I got my ass whopped and that worked like it did.

Speaker 5 (16:40):
Because I wouldn't do that.

Speaker 6 (16:41):
I mean, I do other things, but I wouldn't do
that same thing again, or if I did it again,
I would try my hardest and not get caught, so
I don't get another ass beating.

Speaker 5 (16:47):
But honestly, like disappointment, thing didn't work.

Speaker 6 (16:48):
But I like, I see Hobby, my husband could do that,
and how it really is effective.

Speaker 5 (16:53):
I think you're the same, Jay, Yeah, I am.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
I You're very much that way.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Yeah, oh yeah, Like I would never want to do
anything that would upset him. To this day, though, my
grandfather was so good because I can think of maybe
the two or three times he ever told me he
was disappointed in me, and he knew. He did the
same thing with my mom and my aunt, same thing.
He had this way of saying it. It was famous

(17:18):
in our family and if you got it, it was crippling. Crippling.
Nothing felt worse than making it feel like you let
him down. What about you, Kiki, Because I know your
parents passed away, do you feel like your sister who
raised you did she Was she hard on you or
did she give you like a little bit more room
because she knew you'd been through it?

Speaker 7 (17:38):
I think she gave me. She was definitely harder on
me than she was her boys. Okay, she will never
admit that, but she was. But she also gave me
the freedom to be stupid. I feel like she gave
me just enough room to see what I would do,
and then most times, because she gave me that freedom,
I never wanted to do anything. But then when I
would mess up, she was definitely like, oh my ass

(17:59):
she didn't play any games, so she was definitely the
tough one. My brother in law, who was like a
father figure, he was just the one that I never
wanted to disappoint like he did the whole like, wowo,
so disappointed when your sister finds out that who oh, you.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Know, like he was like.

Speaker 7 (18:16):
That cop in the house. But yeah, Helena didn't play,
but she did give me freedom. And I because I
think really, because I had the freedom, I did not
want to do a lot.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Yeah, And Caitlyn, did you do you feel like with
your parents, like did your dad? Because my parents got
divorced too, But my father and I stopped talking when
I was thirteen, so he wasn't really involved in like that.
I guess the tough issues, right, But I can remember
that he would let me do anything my mom wouldn't like,

(18:45):
anything my mom didn't want me to have. He'd buy it.
Anything my mom didn't want me to do, he'd take
me to do. So I feel like that probably would
have continued. I'm sure he's the one who would have
bought me the fancy car. I'm sure he's the one
that would have, you know, encouraged me to do this,
not encouraged but allowed it because he knew that it
would piss my mom off.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
Yeah, I mean I tried to play it and work
it because obviously different households, you know, one parent is
more strict than the other. I tried, but that all
came to a head. There was a situation where I
wasn't doing anything wrong and I was at my dad's
house where I would sometimes he asked less questions, you know, And.

Speaker 5 (19:24):
So I was out.

Speaker 4 (19:26):
Driving with an older dude who did have beer in
the car and my boyfriend at the time, and we
got pulled over and I wasn't drunk, but the cops
made both of my parents go to the police station,
which I if you are a police officer, never do
this to a child, because it resulted in my dad
and I not speaking for multiple years because they had

(19:49):
like an issue at the police station. And it was
a whole thing, like you should never make kids have
both parents there because my dad was drinking and couldn't drive,
and then his girlfriend had to get up and drive
him there.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Also, it became this whole.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
It became this whole thing, and then the cops asked me, like,
was I too scared to go home? With my dad
and I tried to assess like who was more mad
and who I should go home with, and it caused
like major issues.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Oh wow.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
But my dad was like my dad's.

Speaker 4 (20:14):
Italian, so he's like, give you the freedom, give you
the freedom, but if you embarrass him, like I think
your parents were, that's when he was angry. So I
could drink, I could do whatever. But the second those
cops called, he was fucking pissed, and that was scarier
than anything. So I tried to work it though, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
You know, that's a trauma there.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
I just remember watching like those MTV spring breaks again,
something else we've talked. We talk all the time about it.
The stuff the kids these days will never get to enjoy.
You'll never get to either attend or sit back and
watch MTV spring break, you know, where people were just
very clearly just openly getting her piece everywhere and like
it's just right on MTV. It just didn't matter. And

(20:53):
Eric Nice was like helping them, you know, and the
start and the stars of the real world. Would you
there to help them and give it to them in
some cases. But I just remember, like, you know, they
had all these shows from these trashy places, you know,
and it was just like, my parents would have never
let me go to something like that.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
Never were those high schoolers. I don't know if you
said this or college age people.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
I think it was both, honestly, because we're talking about
like basically, Mexico is where a lot of this stuff was,
so I think, you know, everything anything goes in Mexico.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
I feel like, well, that's.

Speaker 4 (21:29):
The thing though, my sister was going My sister's going
to Cancun, but she was going to a different city,
and this whole city in Mexico I don't know which
one it is. For the spring break months have now
made it illegal to drink unless you are twenty one.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
So my sister who was trying to go to spring.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
Break, what are you doing Mexico?

Speaker 5 (21:45):
What the helluse?

Speaker 4 (21:45):
So now she has to go to Cancun because they
allow it. But can you believe that they like caught
onto it? They don't want to deal. Well, it's probably smart,
I mean it's it's smart, but like, where are we
going now to drink? And then we all went to
cause I live I'm from Detroit. We all went to
Windsor for our nineteenth birthday because you could legally drink
in Windsor.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
Which I know it's hard for some of you to
believe in that, and it was for me for a
long time in the studio. But geographically, you know, you
Canada is across the river, like you can see Canada,
so you just what was it like two minutes across
the bridge and you're there. You're in Canada.

Speaker 4 (22:17):
There's usually traffic, there's a bridge and a tunnel, but
you could make a wrong turn and end up in
fucking Canada if you live in Detroit.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Did they check your passport to go back and forth? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (22:24):
But now in Michigan we have not the real idea.
But it's something else. It's called like a I don't
know what it's called, but it gets me into Canada
with my license and a couple other places. But they
put that on your license, yeah, which is wild because
you used to need your passport.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
It's called an enhanced driver's license. So I could just
go to Canada with this.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Oh I don't have one of those.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
Your fancy Yeah, we've got to be have a Michigan license.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
I don't have one of those either. Yeah, that part
of the reason.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
Why, right, But yeah, I can, I can get in.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
I'll have you know.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
I have a TSA pre check though, and global entry
you do and clear.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Plus I'll just have you no.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
Now that's a flash.

Speaker 5 (23:01):
I want that.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
I know it is, and I like to use it
at all times. I refuse to wait in a security line.
But the problem, the.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Problem is everybody got all that stuff now.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
It didn't used to be that way. For years, nobody
had it, so you were really ahead of the game.
And now I feel like sometimes the line is longer
for that than it is and I've seen people waiting
this long and I'm like so and the other one
means I have to take my shoes off, but I
can get through faster. But people are like, nope, I
have TSA pre check. I will be waiting right here

(23:33):
because I am elite, you know or whatever. I'm like, No,
I am trying to get to the antie ANNs on
the other side, the Chili's to go. I'm trying to
get over to the macaroni grill.

Speaker 5 (23:45):
Okay, obviously. Yeah, it's such a good feeling when we
beat y'all.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
Yeah, yeah, I'll know.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
I feel like you should. You should get it though.
It's it's liberating, it's so nice to leave your shoes
on or whatever.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
I can't justify that, man, I.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
Felt so stupid the end of the day, even sol
Lake City, my backpack was so heavy, and I'm like,
why is this so fucking heavy?

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Like what is it? Anyway?

Speaker 1 (24:06):
I was tired and I go there and I, you know, whatever,
go through the thing, pre check, you know or whatever.
And these were automatic security, Like I don't know, not
every airport has this. It's like Europe though, like where
you put your thing in a I'm sure you guys
notice this. You like put your stuff in the thing
and then as opposed to it going on the conveyor
belt manually, like it takes it like a machine takes

(24:27):
it and then you know whatever, it's all automated or whatever.
And so mine gets like separated, My backpack gets separated
and goes off to be you know, like a hand screened,
and I'm like, I'm not I didn't say anything, of course,
I'm respectful, but you know, now my paranoia is like
what the fuck is in there? Like what did I
forget that I have? You know, because he obviously got
separated and the guy's going through it, and I'm like shit,

(24:49):
and he pulls out a water bottle that's about this,
like whatever those whatever, those water bottles where we were
buying all week.

Speaker 4 (24:55):
Like life waters, tall and full and not open.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
And I'm like, my dumb ass never asked, like, why
is this thing? Why am I carrying around a gallon
of water? I didn't even know it was in there.
And the guy pulls it out and he just kind
of holds it and he's like, come on man, yeah,
and I'm like, dude, I'm so sorry.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
I'm like, I I didn't even know that.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
I forgot, you know, And I was like, and it's
not open, so if you want some eight dollars water,
and he goes, I got to throw it away like
everything else or whatever, which I don't know if I
believe that. I'm sure the waters get thrown away, but
if you got something good, I don't know if I
think you should keep it throwing getting thrown away. I
think those guys are having a little fiesta back there.
But I felt so stupid because I'm just because obviously

(25:35):
these guys are used to it. TSA sees is every
every day, every hour, like he didn't care.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
But I'm just god, I was so stupid.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
I don't know why. I I don't know why I
told this. Oh it's TSA preaching.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
Did he say he was disappointed in you?

Speaker 1 (25:48):
I expect more from a TSA preache global entry holder,
I do. I just expect more from you. But global
entry is kind of like if you've traveled internationally. It's
kind of like a flex because you know, you just
kind of roll right by the guy, the customs guy.
You just walk right by he and if he wants
to talk to you, then he can be like because
you you go to a thing and then you I
don't know how it is now it's been a while,
but you print out like a little ticket and then

(26:10):
you just hand the ticket to the guy on the
way out, and then they just decide if they want
to say anything more to you. You don't have to
do a little interview at the desk, yeah, because you're
you know, always make me really nice, the entry holder,
because that guy, if he's having a bad day, could
be like, no, thank you, You don't get to come back,
you know whatever. Anyway, so you just kind of roll
and it's kind of like you're looking at him like
are you gonna stop me? Or you almost feel like

(26:31):
you're breaking the law or something. You're like, oh, now
that might be worth it.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
It saves a lot of time.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Yeah, but they're basically like, you do an interview and
the whole thing, and they're basically like, Okay, if you
don't have a criminal record or whatever, then I.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Guess we trust you. But wild the guy did say.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Though, he said, if you get a DUI or if
any if you get any kind of thing, will this
will get taken away and you'll never get it back.
And then somebody told me that was gonna happen when
I went to Qube two and it didn't. They told
me they were going to take away my global entry
and they didn't do it.

Speaker 4 (26:58):
There are countries you can't go to with a d I.
Oh you can't go to Canada. Remember all those Swifties
were like freaking out because they just found out they
can't go there.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
All the drunk Swifties, all the drunks. Yeah, oh wow.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
Well anyway, Yeah, I think you should go go down
there and get yourself a global entry.

Speaker 5 (27:13):
How do I do it?

Speaker 1 (27:15):
Apply online? And then you have to go to get
an interview. But I think you can get interviewed a
lot of places Now, it used to be you had
you had to drive down to the international terminal of
OHAA or wherever you were, and you had to actually
like make an appointment and then they talk to you.

Speaker 5 (27:28):
Oh god, you know what, they might get me locked up.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
I don't know how expensive some people's credit cards. It's
either free or highly discounted. That's another thing that you
guys all need to do because I don't do it.
And I did the other day and I was like,
holy shit, but go to the whatever credit cards you have,
go and see what the benefits of your credit card are, because,
like I learned, my credit card gives me, for example,

(27:51):
car rental insurance.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Oh, he's on the credit card. So when you go
get a car, and.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
We did this the other day, and I very very
rarely rent a car, but when I do and they
want you to buy all the X for insurance, they
try and talk you into it, and they're like, basically,
we're going to kill you if you if this car
gets dented.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Yeah, like we'll have to take We'll have to take
your life, if you.

Speaker 5 (28:07):
Know, like right, take my house.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
It is scary.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
You were standing next to me the other day and
we were in Salt Lake City, and I very rarely
rent a car, so I didn't even really know how
to do it. I don't like I made the reservation,
but I'm like, and if we walk up to the thing,
the guy's reading the Bible. Yeah, he was very inconvenience
by having to shut the Book of Mormon to talk
to us, which is whatever. And then he was basically like,
if you don't buy all this insurance, which wound up
being three times the price of the car per day.

(28:33):
The insurance the car was twenty nine dollars a day.
The insurance was seventy nine dollars a day on top
of the twenty nine. And I'm like, I don't know
what happens if I don't do this. He was like, oh, well,
that would be extremely risky. Most customers don't do that,
and if you do, just know it could cost you
tens of thousands of dollars if anything happens to this car.

(28:55):
And I was like, yeah, I'm not going to do it.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Yeah I didn't do it.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
But then I was a doesn't my didn't I read
when I signed up for my credit card that I
and so I went and looked and they're sure enough like,
not all of it, but a lot of it would
be paid for from the credit card. It's like an
insurance public But there's a bunch of other shit on
there too, lounge access, tsa pre check door Dash, I
got Doorash yearly, DoorDash for free. I pay for that
right now. There's a whole bunch of shit on there. Look,

(29:21):
apparently I had the three hundred dollars travel credit that
I didn't know I had, but then you book, if
you book travel and it applies, they just they just
discounted right away.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
I didn't even know i'd used it.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
But then I went and looked at my credit card
bill and sure enough, they took three hundred bucks off
of flight that I bought. So the same is true
with mobile phone like Verizon. Go look at your Verizon
and see Disney Plus is included. There's a whole ton
of shit in there that like, they don't I don't
think they want you to know.

Speaker 5 (29:46):
They don't.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
They want you to have to go dig for it,
so I guess they don't have to pay for it
or whatever. But the credit card one blew my mind.
I was like, you know, car rental discounts, hotel discounts,
insurance of all kinds, access to you know, airport lounge.
And I didn't know I could get into all kinds
of stuff, and I don't think most people.

Speaker 5 (30:05):
Look, no, I'll be doing for the rest of the day.
Me too.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yeah, I encourage you. There you go.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
So maybe this, maybe this tangent was a positive thing.
Maybe maybe we touched someone something today for once. And
I also think we should put ourselves on the back
another week with two tangents. Yeah, we are doing our job.
Plus I still think we need to figure out a
way to make it easier for everyone to know all
the all the people's podcasts here. But of course this

(30:32):
is this is the tangent our offare uncentered podcast. We
got the Mommy Collective podcast. We got the Queens and
Country Queens and Kings and Queens and Country.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Yes, yes, Jason interviewing.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
Up and coming uh the country stars. We got that
was called top five podcasts. Now, okay, let's got one
and then what would you consider yours to be the
Shade Room?

Speaker 5 (30:53):
Now the what more can I say? Podcast?

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Okay, that's right, because you guys, she's like got a
whole nother job.

Speaker 5 (31:00):
Oh yes, yeah, she get.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
A whole other morning team and a whole nother job
over here, and I'm glad we stole you first, because
at some point they're going to realize.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
They fucked up and it should have put you over there.

Speaker 5 (31:08):
Too late, too late?

Speaker 2 (31:09):
Are too late, too late?

Speaker 1 (31:12):
And remind me to tell the story somebday on the
tangent about when they when they use you on the
Breakfast Club and how I actually I actually crapped my
pants and I actually thought I had given you away.
Oh and I called my mom, No what did she say?
She well, I'll tell the story now quickly so and
I'll tell it exactly like a v I don't know

(31:33):
if everyone involvedould appreciate that I'll tell it this way.
But somebody very high up in the company called me
and said, hey, we think we know the direction that
we're going with the Breakfast Club because Angela Ye had left.
Which is, if you don't know what the Breakfast Club
is a big show out of New York, what would
you how would describe it in the hip hop community?

Speaker 5 (31:49):
Your biggest hip hop show ever?

Speaker 1 (31:50):
It's probably all I don't know how many stations, fifty
sixty seven. I don't want a lot of radio stations. Charlemage,
the God's one of the hosts j MVY. They do
a great job. And so they had a female opening
for a female and the person said to me, Hey, look,
I think we know the direction we're going, but we're
giving a couple other people a shot. It's very short listed.
I think there were only two or three people, and

(32:12):
we want we want to give it to Kiki. You
want Keki to come up here and do a day
or two. But if you're not comfortable with that, we'll
pretend like this conversation never happened. And I thought about
it for about three no, no, hold on, hold on,
hold on, then let me finish. I'm just being honest.
For about two and a half seconds. It was that

(32:33):
quickly I thought I could make this go away. But
then but then, I'm telling you, was that fast I
realized it's happened to me. I've been blocked from opportunities
that where I wasn't supposed to even know they existed,
like a job in Dallas, a job in Miami. Literally

(32:55):
the because in our company, this is how it has
to go. They have to call the other place and say, hey,
can we interview this person? But everybody knows. They usually
call the person first and say do you want the job?
So in both cases I'd gotten the call, Hey, do
you want to come to Miami and at the time, yeah,
do you want to go to Dallas at the time, Yeah?
And then I don't hear anything for a few days,

(33:15):
and then inevitably my boss then takes me to lunch
or pulls me in his office and like that, wants
to know if I know that.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
He fucked me who?

Speaker 1 (33:27):
And in one case I knew, and I told the
guy and I wound up he wound up being our
boss again years and years and years later. But I
told him, I go, I know you fucked me, and
I'll never forget. And his thing was, well, you know,
you and I are a team, and you and I,
you know, we go everywhere together, you know. And a
year later the guy got a job somewhere else and

(33:48):
left without me. Of course, he just didn't want me.
He wanted to block my blessing and he did. But anyway,
so I couldn't do it. So I said no, I said, no,
call her, of course, I mean literally, of course.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
You were panicking a bit, a little bit.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
No, but there's no other there's Look, I know there
are other options, and I'm not telling you. I'm like
an amazing human being, but there was no other of course,
of course, you should have every opportunity given to you,
and if it's better, and you choose it's better for you,
then you need to go. And we all would have
celebrated that, we all would have been sad. But if
any of you ever get an opportunity you just cannot
pass up, then I would say, of course you have

(34:24):
to take it and we have to deal with it.
But uh, I hung up. I called my mom. I said, no,
I just gave kick you away. Oh no, as if
you were mine to give away. But I said, I said,
well that's great, We're going to find somebody else. Now
She's like, what happened? I told the story. She's like, well,
you had to do that, like you have you have to.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
And I'm not.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
Even sure if I'd said no, if they probably would
have called you. Anyway, I think that was just a
nice thing they were doing, like to make me feel
like I had some say. And I think she also
knew that there was no way that I would actually
be like, oh God, don't.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Tell her, right, never.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Never tell her that the best hip hop show in
the world wants her.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
They never, no, don't do that.

Speaker 4 (34:59):
So hard to like sit around here and like pretend
like you you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
Well, then they didn't call you for like two weeks,
and so I was, oh, yeah, okay, and I'm coming
every damn.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Oh yeah yeah, because it wasn't.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
And then I didn finally, like after a little while,
I'm like, so wait a minute, so you you're definitely
hiring someone else. And then and then it became well
we never said definitely talk yeah anyway, and then you
went and you did a great job, and you very
easily could have gotten that job. I guess they'd already
moved up with someone else. And I promise it will

(35:33):
happen again. Uh, It'll probably happened for all of you.
I'm stuck here and the rest of you can just
go work for Ryan Seacrest and get rich.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
But uh, Paulina, you were psychic on that too.

Speaker 6 (35:43):
I was gonna say, me and God had a conversation
about that, because I came in here telling everybody that's
what that's where she was going with no proof.

Speaker 5 (35:49):
But I was like, she's auditioning for the breakfast club guys.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
She's like, they're there, they have hosts coming in and
I was like wow, and I was like.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
I don't have no idea.

Speaker 5 (35:57):
Yeah, and it ended up being true and it was
so cool it was and.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
They're gonna have Kiki and I'm like, oh, okay, I
didn't even know it.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
And it made me really happy too, because and this
is no disrespect to any anyone truly, but I know people.
I hate it when people try and flex to get something.
And I knew somebody who was flexing hard for the
opportunity you got and just fumbled it. I cannot stand
an arrogant, egotistical professional fumble. Be fucking humble, be responsible,

(36:33):
handle your business. And I knew that somebody else wanted it,
and it wound up ultimately that person doesn't have a
job anymore over it. And then they called and asked
you because you were because you didn't. You didn't handle
it that way. You you were just doing your thing,
and like if they called, they called, and you were
gonna be gracious and you were gonna go kill it,

(36:54):
which you did, and that was the other thing. Then
you went and killed it. And I'm like, they're gonna
change your mind, Cerica, They're gon change your mind. Yeah,
they can change your mind.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
The baby shower chairs took me to the funk out.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
That was fun Yeah, that was funny because they had
those like they sit in those like.

Speaker 7 (37:08):
Get rid of them too. They did not believe them
out of you did people started trailing now they.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Just they had like royal chairs.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
Like, yeah, they were gaudy.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
I mean I have one. I'm sitting in one right now,
but mine's not gaudy.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
You know, you're just a classy throat.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
I think so too.

Speaker 4 (37:24):
And your crown is you know, just small diamonds. I
feel like that's where they went wrong.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
No, I think so too.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
Like if you know, and then I don't make you
call me your majesty, I make you call me king
but not.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Your manager is weird. But right, well, you know when
I when I annoyed you each morning.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
A long furry cape that you wear.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
It's so hot.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
Yeah, it's so fucking hot, and it's like, can we
turn the A C on? I'm wearing a furry cape
right now.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
And then steaming it outside. It's like exhausting, but I'm
still modest.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Yeah, and the sword thing I do each you know whatever.
But anyway, I'm glad that. I'm glad you went. I'm
glad you killed it. I'm glad you made your mark. Yes,
I'm glad you came back. And I would hope the
same for each of you. You guys, go do your thing,
and but then come back home, come home, because I

(38:13):
I just can't.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
I can't. I want to be home.

Speaker 5 (38:16):
I can't ease.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
All Right, I have a good day. Thanks for listening.
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