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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Between Two Shows podcast on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Welcome to the Between Two Shows Podcasts.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
With Dave and Jen and Phil.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Hey, we're doing a podcast again. It's been a minute.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
It's been busy too. Okay, football season took over. I mean, seriously,
I gotta tell you too, kids, they've got a busier
schedule than I do.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Man, that's the truth.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
But I will tell you that Phil has been sending
me some incredible videos. And now I have never even
questioned if we went to the Moon or not. Now
I don't know about that. I may have questioned it
from time to time, but.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Not really given it thought.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
No. Same thing with me, Okay, I've never sat and thought,
you know, oh yeah, I wonder you know how we
did that? Blah blah blah. We went to the moon.
From nineteen sixty nine to nineteen seventy two, one or no,
twelve people, twelve men from the United States of America
were said.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
To have walked on the Moon allegedly.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
And that's the thing, that's the thing. Why has no
other country then to the moon? I mean, the Moon
is not the US, It's it's anybody in the world
right or in the galaxy. KA. So no other country
has been to the moon. No other country can say
they have put a man on the moon. We only
did it for a few years and have never been back.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Right, why have we not gone back?
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Have we not gone back? And now Phil has been
sending me videos. I mean, just completely blowing my mind.
And I totally one hundred percent right now believe we
did not go to the moon.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Just a little influence right there is what it is.
It was all the space rates back then, right because
the Russians had been to space. The Russians, you know,
had a space walk and all this stuff, and we're like,
how can we keep up? Well, we're gonna go to
the moon. We'll show them, yeah, And then all of
a sudden there's these videos of us landing on the Moon,
and there's so many questions. There are a ton of
conspiracy theories about the moon landing and was it fake?
(01:52):
Was it real? Now, you guys are really relatively young,
so I mean, I wasn't around for the moon landing.
I was born after the moon landing, about that old.
But you know, I was talking with Chief here and
we were discussing this and he said, oh, yeah, we did,
we landed. I saw it.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Nobody.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Wait, of course you saw it, but you know how
old were you at that time, and the technology that
we have now far surpasses what we had back then.
But you know, at the same time, if you go
to the moon, you're like, well, we've already been why
go back, right, They've already proven that they've beaten the
Russians to the moon. But no, the more I I'm
(02:33):
like you, the more I read about it, the more
I watch these videos, the more I'm hearing in the
video I sent you of buzz Aldrin when he was
asked the question, he said, well, it didn't happen. I'm like, wait,
hold on a second. This is the same guy that
was about to punch somebody in the face years ago
for asking him that question. I said, I didn't happen.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Well, because he's older now, he's like, you know what,
I don't care. I don't want to lie anymore. We
didn't go listen if you questioned, like even I know
that they're videos about like, oh, well, the shadows are
different and this is different that that. Even that all aside,
which is the compelling evidence too. Think about like they
talked about this Van Allen Belt that can get anywhere
from like two thousand up to twenty thousand kelvin hot
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and what would have to go through, Like, if if
our spacecraft went through that, it would burn up, it
would incinerate in a heartbeat. So in order to get
to the Moon, you have to go through that belt. No,
nobody's ever done it, even Elon Musk who was sending
out spaceships into outer space. Now they can't get past
the Van Allen Belt. They can only go so far.
So this is absolutely insane.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
And how did the cameras survive that spaceship is one thing,
but how did the cameras and the film survive?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Speaking of what are some of the other pieces of evidence?
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Oh gosh, okay, So one that I saw recently was
there was one of the moon suits that was on
display somewhere and you look at the bottom of the
boot and the design on the bottom of the boot
was totally different than the footprints that were actually on
the Moon. A minute, hang on, just a second, is
that really right? And you know my thing was when
(04:09):
you see like the lunar module launching from the Moon,
it just kind of pops off the top there. There's
there's like no thrust and there's no moon dust that's scattered.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Right.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
But then if you notice this, there's a camera on
the Moon that's shooting this, and it pans up and
follows who's running the camera, And I know, well it's
remotely run, but you're on Earth trying to run this camera.
That's that's not possible.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
And all the way back in when you're sixty nine, yeah,
like that's impossible.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
We have the best technology we've ever had, obviously now
twenty twenty four, and we still can't make it to
the Moon. We still can't do that kind of thing.
We still have a delay on our radio. Are you kidding?
Which is another thing they brought up because they did
do a phone call. NASA did a phone call allegedly
to the guys on the Moon, and it should have
taken like four or two seconds to reach the Moon
(05:01):
and bounce back something like that. It was gonna be
a delay. Well, no, in the actual audio, like the
original audio, they asked the guy on the moon a
question and he responded immediately like, okay, so you're in
the other room.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Okay, you mean to tell me that you can drive
down ninety three from Ironton to Oak hill and you
lose signal just like that, right, but we can reach the.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Move seriously like, this is absolutely, I mean, the biggest
hoax that has ever been pulled off. And now especially
with the Internet, you know, people can find out more
information for themselves. Back in nineteen sixty nine, you believed
what you were told because that's what it was.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Yeah, it was on TV and you had visual proof, right.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
And by the way, if you watch some of that
visual proof now, you're like, wow, that was poorly dune
like watching.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
So I watched Salem's Lot. I don't know if you
remember that movie, but it was like nineteen seventy eight,
seventy nine. I watched that as a kid, and it
scared me to death. But then I watched it when
I was in my thirties and I'm like, well, I
can see the stream right, terrible. But back then it
was amazing. Special effects were phenomenal, I know.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
But see when you get older and now in twenty
twenty four you're watching it, You're like, wow, that was
just really crappy, amaze.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I want to know what my parents think, especially my dad.
I want to know if he thinks it really happened,
because he lived through that. I would love Have you
asked your parents?
Speaker 1 (06:25):
No?
Speaker 3 (06:25):
I do want to ask them now though, and I'm
going to dinner tonight with them.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
So perfect.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Yeah, because, like I said, I talked to Chief. He's
an older guy. I don't want to say super old,
but he said, yeah, we absolutely landed on the moon. Well,
and she asked him about the thing and he said, oh,
they got remotes for.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
That, right right.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
And I wonder if you present all of the evidence
that you've found to him, if it changes his mind
right or not because he'd lived through it.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Listen. I just think that there are too many questions
that are not answered, and I mean several people and
now so and of course people are like, oh, that
would have had to take four hundred thousand people to
cover up that big that. No, it wouldn't have. No,
it wouldn't know. You only need a few people that
actually know the astronauts, being one of them. And by
the way, when you pay them handsomely, they'll shut up.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
You're not going to talk.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
And there's a guy, Neil deGrasse Tyson, he's always want
you know, we did land on the moon. We need
to get him on the show's work on it.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
I really like I wish we had that poll. I
really liked that man and his opinions. I really truly
believe him a lot of the time. But he very
well may be the one of them that's paid off
to say that I cannot believe that we actually landed
on the Moon now, but the actual physics of it
is not fott So.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
You have completely swayed Jim in the opposite direction. Now,
I I still think there's a possibility that we did it,
that we did make it to.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
The well, I did ask, But now you need to
send him to Day too.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
I'll send him to Day.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
But now should I should? I try to see? Let
me feel you out, Phil, Okay, you believe that we
did not make it? No, I feel you up, feel
you out?
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Okay, there's a different all Yeah, Phil, I didn't hear.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Perverted en Phil. What is your take, sir? On the
lock Neest Monster.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
There's no lock Nest Monster.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
There is absolutely a lot of you.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
You are a fan of the show and Josh Gates
Expedition x Y. You've seen that show. They did one
on the lock Nest Monster, right, and then they you know,
they did all this searching and blah blah blah, and
they went down in these caves and underwater, and then
it turns out there was just some dude years ago
who had like a both was turned upside down with
something on top of it, and he had a remote control.
He did that. That was the story.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
He did do that, but that was not the story
of the whole thing. As a matter of fact, the
loch Ness Monster dates back to all the way to
fifteen thirty three, and Sank Columbu ordered him back into
the water when he tried to attack people on land
fifteen thirty three. Go ahead google that one.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Betty lock Neest monster just did what he was ordered
to do.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Well, okay, okay, sorry about that, but no, I will
say this.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
I truly believe that the Luckness Monster and things like
I don't know, the Bigfoot.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Do you believe?
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Do you know why I believe in these things? I
truly believe that there are different dimensions that we can't see,
that we can't jump back and forth into, that are
living alongside us, that we don't know are happening.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
He's a super superhero comic book fan and we never
knew it.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
The Marvel movies, Yeah, that's what you Spider Man, the
Spider Verse, Spider.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Verse believe this, Okay, I'm not. First of all, Big
Bang Theory taught me this, Okay. So basically, there is
a theory that there are multiple dimensions living alongside of
us in real time at the same time. But we
can't interact or see that. But somehow these creatures have
figured it out because we've searched for Bigfoot for years, right,
and we he supposedly lives in a lot of forests
(10:06):
and wooded.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Areas, King of Hide and Seek because.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
He's jumping in and out of dimensions today. Okay, that's
what I'm Now we need to delve a little more
into that. I'll start sending you some videos and try
to change your mind. Okay, I'll send him you to Dave, Okay,
But I'm just saying I totally believe, totally to believe
in First of all, you believe in aliens, right. You
don't believe in aliens. You don't believe that there are
(10:30):
other beings in the universe. I believe that it's that.
I think it's arrogant to believe that it's just us here.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
I believe.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Now I might believe that God created everything. But I
believe that we are not the only beings in this universe.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
As evidenced by Bigfoot. Look here's my take on that.
All right, So with all the technology and satellite things
that we have, now, why have we not seen more
than one.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Big foot jumping into dimensions? That we have seen more
than one big foot? He's called yetti okayation like.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
A big Feet civilization? Or is just big hairy dudes
running around? Are their female bigfoot?
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Of course? First of all, most of them, most of
these weird things are female because they have to reproduce
and they have to make them throughout the years. I mean,
do you think that the Lockedness monster that's living over
there in Ireland right now or Scotland, do you think
that that is the same Lockness monster from fifteen thirty three?
Speaker 2 (11:29):
And they're all the big feet are the king Kings,
I guess hide and seek.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Once again? They are jumping in and out of dimensions.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
How do they just live in the woods? And do
you think maybe they kind of deer live in the
woods too, but they scurry out on the highway and
get hit by cars.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
They jump into the different dimensions.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Harry, Harry and the Henderson's Harry did get he wandered
out into the road, he get hit.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
I love that guy. By the way, I did recently
watch an Unsolved Mysteries episode on Netflix on the Mothman
in West Virginia. Absolutely believe that follows real. And by
the way, Mothman is not just a West Virginia thing.
Do you know that the Mothman has been seen all
over Chicago or like a variation of the moth Man
has been seen all over Chicago, all over Ukraine, even
(12:20):
with a scene before the Chernobyl accident in nineteen eighty
six in Ukraine. Did you know that I.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Didn't know about Ukraine, I didn't know about Chicago.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
That see, I'm telling you the Mothman is not just
a local West Virginia thing. That sucker is everywhere too, buddy,
I'm telling you there are there are very There are
things that we cannot explain in this world and things
that we really can't understand, but they're out there.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Have you been to the Mothman Museum in Point Plus?
Speaker 3 (12:46):
I haven't.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
I want to go.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I need to go.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Yeah, I've been there in the Mothman statue right there too.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
I mean and you still you still have seen all
that fun stuff? You didn't believe it?
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
What's his name?
Speaker 3 (12:58):
That guy is the wonder in the head sources. Okay,
Indant Interest is the name that that they used in
the Richard geermof movie that has that was somewhat fictionalized
but somewhat real.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Job.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
I believe. I truly believe in a lot of things. Yeah,
that thing was just a weird rabbit dog type thing. Okay,
that thing actually real though. I don't think it sucked
the blood out of cows, but it definitely ate cows.
Have you ever heard of skinwalkers? Skinwalker ranch? Oh dude,
it's incredible too. Now that dates back to Native American Indians.
(13:38):
They believed that these wolves, these massive wolves, would shape
shift into people and then shape shift back into wolves,
and those were the skin walkers, and they were spiritual beings. Listen,
I did not create this. I am not you know,
I'm just telling you this has been around for centuries.
If you'll look into the history of all these legends,
everybody's seen them.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
For you, seape shifting.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yeah, shut up, she's not the creator, she's just the
believer exactly.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
It's not like scientology I'm not el Ron Hubbards. I
didn't ate a religion. It was there before, and I'm
believing it.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Okay, so you're on board with big Foot, Locknest, monster, Chupacabra,
the yetti, Yep, moon landing fake.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
That's definitely fake.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Megaladon.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Now, the Megaladon was real, but I truly believe it's
still out there underneath our oceans. Listen, why are we trying?
Why is Elon Musk and whoever Jeff Bezos trying to
get us to go to a different planet so hard.
It's because they've seen what's under the ocean. They've seen
what's down there, and they realize, holy crap, our water
levels are rising and soon our land is going to
(14:46):
be underwater and we're going to be in the water
with those creepy creatures that they've seen that we don't
know about. That's why I think they're trying to get
us to go to the Mars. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Where do you stand on all?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
I'm with you one hundred percent. I don't believe in
any of those things.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Good Lord, now your eyes.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
I'm definitely interested, more interested in the whole moon landing
situation yeah, and I want to do a little more research.
Definitely want to talk to my dad about that, see
how he feels about it.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
I do want to talk to my parents and see
what they think about that.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
A friend of mine, his son at the University of Tennessee,
did a paper on the fake moon landing in one
of his classes, like research all these documents and everything,
turned it in. He got an A on it life.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
So I want to read that paper. Could you get that?
I just want to know so interesting. Listen, if you
all believe in what I believe in, please let us know.
As a matter of fact, call into the show because
we'd like to talk to you about this right. Hit
us up on Facebook too. You know, however, you want
to get ahold of us. We want to hear what
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you'll all think about all these situations. Yeah, they're not
fake story, No, it's not all real.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
The next thing you'll say, wrestling, what some people wrestling
is fake?
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Like wrestling? What is face?
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Phil?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
You may have lost me.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
And now the divide.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Well, thanks for listening to the podcast.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Yes, tune back in next week and see if we
have another one.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
This is Between Two Shows podcast on iHeartRadio.