Moses Beers 3-9-25

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Faith in the Zone on Fox Sports ninet
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Donovan and Jorgansen Heating and Cooling Studios. Thanks for joining us.
I Mike McGivern alongside my co host. He's the head
pastor at Brookside, a Baptist Church. Pastor. How you been.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
I'm doing a great Mike goodness. Oh man, you just
cracked me.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Upide Baptist Church. I missed you last week. I was
on the road and hanging out with my son Matthew.
I hear some people were looking for me in front
of the church.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Oh they were. Yeah, so they couldn't find you. They
found me.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Yeah, that's good. That's good. So you know what, Actually
I was there. I was at the Lutheran church next door,
watching all those people try to find you. Hey, I
appreciate your help setting up today's today's show. And I've
known Josh Beear's a long time, but I've not met
Moses's son, and you told me some great things about him.
Former soccer player, former and lookt a great career as

(00:58):
a young guy. Were a soccer player at Karen University
of Christians College in Pennsylvania. Our special guest. He is
Moses Beers. Moses, how you been.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
I've been great, Thank you for having me on. I'm
happy to be here.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Man. I've heard a lot of things about you, young man.
Her pastor Ken's got a few stories about you.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
I sure do. But I'll tell you what for soccer,
I mean, Moses, you you've I watched your dad would send
me some some sites to look at when you guys
had a big game coming up and man alive. Usually
teams had a couple of guys on you. But man,
when you got when you got loose, you let that
left foot. Man, you could rip that goal from that

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ball from thirty thirty five feet thirty five yards out
and put it in the net.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Yeah, thank you. It was the long way to get here.
I'm sure you remember how how long it took me
to need to be able to grow to be big
enough to play. But you help.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
We we had a great time, Moses with you. And
I still remember you being able to do that funny
imitation of ray Lewis, and I'll.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Never forget it.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
He walked in studios, say we got to get hey, man,
he could do ray Lewis started laughing. Here's my favorite.
Doing some research on young Moses, my favorite line was
head coach Luke Gibson remarked, Moses has been the epitome
of everything we hoped for the past four years. He
has strived for excellence both on and off the field,

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in the classroom, and his dedication to growth in all
areas of life has served as an inspiring example for
everyone on campus. And I don't know if you can
get a coach to say something better than look, he's
exactly what we had hoped. He was the epitome of
everything we had hoped for for four years. And that's
got to make got to make his mom and dad

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feel pretty good when they read a quote from a
former coach.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yeah, and Luke Gibson, Uh, he's a good one man.
I'm surprised he's still there and he hadn't you know,
some some school hadn't come and taken him because he's
a great coach. And but you know, your mom and dad,
I know they're proud of you. But the thing too,
that that I picked up Moses with you, especially when
you went back to play Lancaster. You know, so you're

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going back to you mean, you live right, you know,
almost right on campus. And uh, I know they were
probably gunning for you every time that you came back
to play. And and I'll tell you this, your your
mama took up for you. Boy. I'm telling you, I'm
telling you, man. She was kind of ticked off some
of some of the some of the plays and lack

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of calls that as they tried to make sure you
didn't beat him.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Home cooking.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Oh it was home cooking a cord to your According
to your mom, it was home cooking.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Hey, Moses, tell the story like you could. You could
have played at lancash Your dad coached at Lancaster and
was part of the administration there. What made you choose
Karen University.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Yeah, so there were a couple of reasons. I had
some visits to both Langas for Bible College and Karen,
and I won't say anything bad about obviously. I think
they're a fantastic school and I could have very well
ended up there and probably would have and would have
loved it. But when I came on my Karen visit,
there were just a couple of things that stood out
to me. I loved spending time with coach Gibson. He

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was super great. And then just meeting some of the guys,
I just I connected a little bit more with them,
and we played a session and I just felt like
the chemistry was really there. I had a good session
and I felt like I could really help the team.
And then another thing was, like you said, it was
right in my backyard. And I think one of the
appeals about Karen University was that it was a little
bit farther away. I think I wanted that kind of

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that separation, wanted to make more of a name for
myself versus be somewhere where a lot of people already
knew me and already knew Beer's name.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, they knew he was Josh Beer's son.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Right, Hey, how far is Carry University from Lancaster.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
It's about an hour and fifteen hour and a half,
so not not super far, but far enough that it's
not right in my backyard.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Hey, when you would play Lancaster, even though your your
dad was on staff there, you know in administration, he
was rooting for you.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Correct, Yes, I hope so, I hope so.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Well, Yeah, he might have hit it a little bit
better than your mom, but he definitely was rooting for you.
And how did you guys fare against them? Did you
beat them?

Speaker 3 (05:37):
So we played them. I believe we played them three times.
We played them my sophomore year, my junior year, and
my senior year, and we lost to them. My sophomore
year was a really good game that was at Karen
and then my junior year became we played at LBC, which,
as you guys talked about, it was a big game
for me coming pretty much coming home felt very much
like one of those athletes that gets traded and then

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has that game against his former team and they smoked
to say, you're they beat a score one. We had
a rough spell of our season and that kind of
served as our wake up call. And then this year
and my senior year we went we played at LBC
again and it was a much better game. I think
we won four to one, and we had an home
goal as well, so it was really we dominated that game,

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and I was a big win for us this year.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
I mean, man, they got a beautiful soccer stadium there.
I'll tell you.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
That, Yes they do.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
My man. That's did you score any of those four?

Speaker 3 (06:28):
By the way, I did not. I think I think
I might have an assist, but I did not score.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
Any pastors disappointed. I sent you ten.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Dollars most as you were so so, you were doing
so well growing up. Man, I thought, your dad telling
me how many goes you're going? I thought, well, did
he did? He put it in with his heel on
his right foot. He has to do, he has to
do ahead. It has to be a header. And I
remember your dad called me and goes, Man, I'll tell

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you was he trying? I mean he was diving in
the ground trying to get a head or to go in.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Well, I can tell you his high high school career,
two year varsity member of the soccer team. He was
two time first team selection, All League, All State selections
senior year, scored a lot of goals seventeen goals nineteen
career assists over two seasons. So I'm sure there were
some places that he could have gone and played, and

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he chose Karen University's c AI r And University in Pennsylvania.
Had a great career and if you go on their website,
one of the first articles that pops up is that
he was academic All American and a really nice article
about him. And again three agreed a GPA of three

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point a to zero, majoring in sports management and minoring
in marketing, and a lot of awards, right, all conference
scholar athlete, things like that, And I just, man, what
a great four years. If you had to do it
all over again, Moses was, Is this the university you
would pick again?

Speaker 3 (08:04):
There's no doubt.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Boy, that's great. So what tell me you're you're done
now playing soccer? Correct?

Speaker 3 (08:11):
Yes, that's correct.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
And what's going on? You're gonna Will you graduate at
the end of the year.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Yep. So my my kind of plan is I'm going
to graduate this May and then about a week after graduation,
I'm gonna get married.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, we're gonna be We're gonna be there for that.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Man, well coming with it's Pastor CA plus plus eight
and my producer and I will be there. And I
don't think we'll be like the Ring Beer the Flyer,
flower Kids or anything, but we'll be Yeah. Maybe we'll
be in the back.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
There, maybe show going.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
Well, I know this pastor said you all kicked your
coverage a little bit. She's too good looking for you.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Well something like that.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, Hey were you were you a
multi sport athlete growing up?

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Yeah? I was. I played I play like one season
in flag football. It doesn't really count. But I played
basketball up until up until high school, and then I
didn't play for my school for basketball. I would play
in like the rec or the inter mirror leagues that
were in Lancaster really just strictly for fun and it
was a blast.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
So what high school? You were in public school there,
weren't you in Lancaster?

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Yes, I went to Manheim Township.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yeah, Manheim Township. Did you guys want a state title
in soccer?

Speaker 3 (09:29):
We did not? No. We we won leagues my junior
and senior year, and then senior year got cut short
of COVID, and I would like to think we would
have won state, but we will never know.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yeah, that's tough.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Hey, So a week after you graduate, you're you're getting
married that hopefully you've made some plans as far as
where are you going to want to work and where
you're going to want to live. What's the thought process
behind that?

Speaker 3 (09:56):
Yeah? So right now, I've been applying to a lot,
a lot of plays, says I applied at Karen University
as well to just kind of see if I could
work here as well. I know I would love it.
I love the school and I love the people here,
and then I've just applied to really anything else that
I can find in the world of sports business, just
knowing at the wall and seeing what sticks. In terms

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of living, my fiance lives right next to the Karran
University in an apartment, so the plan would be to
find a job up here and just move in with
her right away.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
So you I see you're with Soccer Shots. I would
think you'd be giving Kyle a call and go hey,
because I mean, man, he's growing that business pretty yeah,
pretty rapidly, I think.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
I mean, I maybe I'll reach out to him. I
work for Soccer Shots for a little bit. I don't anymore,
but I know it's a great program and there what
I'm all about it.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
There, Yeah, I'll tell him to reach out to you.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
There you go, And knowing him, he will reach out
by the end of the week to say, hey, listen,
you know, maybe Gusta, Georgia would be a good place
for you to pick up and well man and moved to. Yeah,
he loves it and Augusta when he was here over
the summer, Kyle and I he recorded him and his
wife came in and recorded faith in his zone, and

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we talked a little business and I just remember, you know,
telling him to quit following people on the basketball court,
and all of a sudden, now he's like giving me
tips as a as a businessman, and what I should
do with this, you know, how to work through this
part of owning my own business and do this on
your taxes and you know, everything above board, but a
way to keep keep the company doors open. And I

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appreciate all that. Hey, how much are you going to
miss playing soccer?

Speaker 3 (11:41):
I mean, I think it's hard for words to describe
that I played soccer since two thousand and eight, so
that's been a vast majority of my life. So I
think I think it'll be tough. I think I've already
felt like there are little moments where it hits me
that I'm not a part of the team anymore. I
won't be playing next season, so I think next fall,
when the season was around, I think it'll be It'll

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be really tough. But I also think that part of
where I've grown the most in my relationship with the
Lord is being grateful for the time that he did
give me on the field and just not having any
regrets and trusting that now that it's over, it's the
right time to be over, and it's time to move
on to other things. But I think a part of
me will always miss it. But I think I've gotten
to the head space where I'm okay with it.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Yeah, I mean, even for your bachelor's party, we could
do a little four on four soccer. I mean, get
Zoe out there. I mean, you know, you take Josh.
Maybe I can get one of the Kevin. Maybe one
of those guys can play with us and I get
out of I can get that, I can get out
there on the field with you.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
Man, I don't think it's the same for what me
or for you. I don't think that the uh, the
talent level on the other side of the pitch is
going to be the same. That's just what I'm thinking.
I don't know, but I'm not sure that Moses would
feel like the competition was up to park.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
He probably made me about five or six times and
then pull it back. I mean, unmeke me in the same.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
Actually, I'd like to come see that. I would. I
would maybe I would record some of.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
That, you know, you know, Moses, I'd do my best
to try to stop you, right.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
I mean I think it would be a blast, as
long as you don't get Kurt out there.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
I think out there, Yeah, he Kurt might be the
first pick and put him back at sweep.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
I'm out there. It might be a little more even.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Put him at sweeper and let him just go to work.
But you know, and I'll keep the red card in
my pocket and not giving him a red card, Yeah,
sure you would gain.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
I would just come on the field and you run
out there.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
And give me right.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Yeah, pastor, I would red card you get out of
the car. That's what I would do. Our special guest
he is Moses Beers. He is a former soccer player
at Karen University in Pennsylvania. He had a phenomenal career. Guys,
I can tell you that and again when I read
what his his coach talked about him being just the

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epitome of everything we had hoped for for the past
four years. Such a great compliment to Moses and his family.
We're gonna get to a break other side of the break,
will ask Moses Beers to share his testimony. This is
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and we can't do it without.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Them, That's true.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Our special guest, he's Moses Beers, Karen University soccer player
in Pennsylvania and he has finished his years of playing
college soccer. He's gonna graduate coming up here in a
few months, then get married and and become a I
guess an adult. Good luck with that, Moses. I would
stay in college if were you. But but I'm just

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saying you're gonna, you know, do a lot of things
that that that ten days of graduating and getting married
gonna be obviously a really fun time for you and
your family. And we tae con graduations on that. Hey,
the second segment for us is always the most important,
and faith in his zone and where we ask our
guests to share their testimony and if you would be

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so kind.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Yes, So for me, I grew up in a in
Christian household, two parents, three sisters, so I really knew
the Lord from a young age. I first got saved,
I believe I was four years old at a vacation
Bible school at my church. So saved from a young age.
And then just throughout my whole life, it's just been

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up and downs finding my true relationship with God, what
that looks like in my life, and how I can
look that out. I think for me, up until around
eighth grade, it was very very standard Christian lifestyle and
then into high school, I think I drifted from the
Lord a little bit, wasn't wasn't making the best decisions,

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and then made the decision to come to Karen University.
I think that's really where my faith took a leap
and went to the next level. And I think it
was one of the biggest reasons why I felt like
it was the right school for me. I felt like
right away with the friends that I met and the
lessons that I learned, that it really changed my life.
I think it kind of started for me my freshman year.

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It was playing soccer, which played my whole life, and
it was about halfway through the year and I suffered
a season ending injury. I broke my leg with about
three minutes left to go in a game, and that
kind of put me in a position where I'd never
been before. I was having a pretty good season and
went in one moment to love and life and playing
soccer with all my best friends, and now I'm kind

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of stuck on the sidelines in a position I've never
really been before. So I actually took advice from one
of my teammates' dads. He said to someone of me
that kind of changed my perspective on the injury, and
he talked about how soccer has had such a big
impact on my life. I've always struggled with my identity
being in soccer versus being God, and he talked about

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how this is one of my first big tests and
how soccer. Not having soccer left the void in my
life because it's had such a big part of me
that now that I'm hurt and I don't have soccer,
it's up to me to decide what to fill. What's
going to fill that void? And so it could have
been a lot of different things. It could have been
my friends, it could have been my relationship with my girlfriend.

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It could have been a lot of things that would
have led me astray from God. And so just talking
to him and realized I have this unique moment right
now where I can either run to God or I
can run away from God. And so just making that
decision every day while I couldn't play soccer, that I
was going to put God first. I was gonna support
my teammate and not prayed the victim really changed my life.

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It really helped me get that understanding that I play
soccer for God. He has given me that gift, and
he can also take it away. It had never really
been taken away from me before in a manner of
an injury, and so I think that really changed my
life and it really helped me use my injury then
as a platform. It almost made me more impactful on

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the team in a way that I could say, yes,
this is happening to me, but I'm still gonna praise
God all the same. We have a creed that we
say on the team that involves playing for each other
and for God, and that we're eleven is one and
got the opportunity to live that out in my life,
and so being able to do that, being able to
recover from my injury, and then going into my sophomore

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year really feeling like I knew what I was doing
was planning for God. I felt as close to God
as I've ever been. And then sophomore year I had
a great season, and then last game of the regular
season on my sophomore year, I had another season ending
injury that required surgery, and so I kind of felt
like I was in that position again, and this time

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more it wasn't so more of anger and frustration with God.
It was more like confusion I felt like I had
been in this posion before and done what God was
telling me to do, and now I'm left with the
same result. I'm still not having soccer. So I was
more confused, and that really caused me to wrestle with God.

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And luckily I had great friends here who just pointed
me to scripture, pointing me to prayer, and I once
again felt like that injury just brought me so much
closer to God, brought me so much closer to my teammates,
and really helped me build the character of being able
to trust God in heart situations and really be able
to play and do everything that I have for him,

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and understanding that everything I have in my life, everything
that's good, is a result of God's good. And so
just those first two years of feeling like I lost
a lot and feeling like I lost those two years
of soccer, and in both those years we ended up
losing in the championship game, so heartbreaking endings for both
of those years, and having to watch that from the

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sidelines was really difficult. But I think it really helped
me grow into the person I am today. It's helped
me learn from experience and be able to relate to
people in a way that I never would have related
to them before. And it's really my trust in God
is at an all time high as a result. And
so it's just been those two years I've changed my

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life and those injuries have changed my life and made
me a much better Christian and a much better man
as a result.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Amen to that, our special guest he is Moses Beers.
He's a former soccer player at Karen University in Pennsylvania.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Pastor Hey Moses, the old preacher from heres Gone by A. W. Tozier,
said that God doesn't use someone until he hurts him deeply.
And it sounds like you know, you went through some
deep hurts and that God was working to make you stronger,

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not only in your faith, but in that determination to
put the Lord first and all that you're doing. And
just listening to the counsel of one of the parents
of your teammate, I thought, man, that sounds like his dad,
Josh Beers, sharing that because our boys they went to

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Lancaster Bible College. And I let doctor tag as the president,
know why. And the guy's name is Josh Beers, And
your dad said, hey, I'll disciple your boy if you'll
send him here. And I'm telling you he's still disciple
in him to this day and the advice and wisdom
he's given. I'm telling you it sounded while you were

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sharing that I thought, either that guy has to be
super close to Josh, because I'm almost like they're saying
the same thing. And I'm sure that's what if you
talk to your dad. I'm sure that's what your dad
was leaning to that, Hey, God has a bigger plan
for you and this and just sucking.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
You know, pastor What was encouraging to me with with
Josh Moses testimony was when he was at his lowest,
he said, look, it was teammates, it was guys on campus,
it was friends on campus that pointed me in the
right direction. And when he said, look, that's why this

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was the perfect choice for me, the right choice the
university I went to because of that, And that makes
me feel very encouraged that still in our country, campus
says you're you know, you turn out the news and
you see stuff going on in different campuses and you're like, oh,
you got to be kidn me. But when he talks
about look, when Moses talks about I got hurt and

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and I got closer to the Lord my time to
be able to now figure that out. And and I
love the fact that he said, look, I was saved
at four, but it was it was a journey, It
was a roller coaster, and the people on this university
really helped me get there. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Hey, hey, Moses, I got one question for you. So
you went to Mannheim Township. So, uh, even though Lancaster,
the Lancaster area is you know, quote probably religious, did
were you with a lot what were more of your
teammates possibly unsaved and at the high school at the

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high school level, and did God give you some some
opportunities with them or was that kind of the big struggle?
And and man, there was this battle raging. You know,
Am I going to serve God or are going to
serve self?

Speaker 3 (24:02):
Yeah? In high school, majority of my teammates were unsaved,
and I knew that. I know a lot of the
ones that I'm still close with now, like have have
gone to church at some point periodically throughout their lives,
but not saved. And I think in high school that
was something that was difficult for me, was being was
being different than them and feeling like I was different

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than them. Because of my faith, and I love those
guys to death and and still in contact with them today.
And I still think with everything that I've gone through
at Karen University, it's still I still have prime opportunity
to be a witness to them and to help lead
them to the Lord.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
So now when you went to Cary, I mean you
that high school team was a phenomenal team. I mean
I watched a few of our games online. Where where
did a lot of those guys go to college? And
I'm sure they kept playing soccer, didn't they?

Speaker 3 (24:55):
Yeah. I got one of my friends, one of my
close friends, you went to. You went to Dickinson and
he played all four years of Dickinson. They just had
a really good run in in the tournament, so he
had a blast there. His senior year one went to Widner.
They have a great soccer program. I don't think he
ended up playing all four years, but I know he
played there for a couple of years. And then I

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had one more buddy. I think he went to del Val,
played goalie there and then the rest the rest loved soccer,
but I just don't think it was what college was
for them, and they went to bigger campuses. I think
more D one schools and it just wasn't wasn't part
of their college life. But I think I know one
of them played on like a Westchester Academy team, so

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didn't play for like the actual school, but that team
is still quality and I know they played pickup games.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
We're talking to Moses Bears again, a former soccer player,
four year socer player at Karen University in Pennsylvania. Most
is if I asked this question, I normally give people
a heads up, so I apologize for that. But at
the college level, was it easier for you to walk
worthy inside the locker room or outside the locker room

(26:07):
on campus?

Speaker 3 (26:10):
I think so yes. For for me, just being a
Christian school, it made it so much easier, especially going
from a large public high school to a smaller private
Christian school. It was much easier for me to walk
worthy of God and towards God's calling because I had
so many people next to me that were walking in
that same direction as well.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Hey, do they have like FCA and things like that
on campus.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
I'm not sure if they have FCA, but I know
that there are, Like we have worship nights weekly pretty
much now and there are other clubs and organizations that
you can get into. And the team, the soccer team
specifically does small groups all throughout the off season. So
we do that and we meet once a week, twice
a week. Whatever the small group leader decides and has

(26:56):
little devotionals and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
Hey, most is there's in your bio. There's a number
of things that you do want to volunteer basis, and
you volunteer at your local church. You've been involved with
youth and children organizations. And I'm wondering where that servant
leadership Heart. That's not something we're born with and it's

(27:19):
a learned behavior. And I think I know the answer
to this, but I'm gonna ask you anyway, Well, where
do you think that servant leadership Hart? Where do you
think that that learned behavior came from? For you?

Speaker 3 (27:30):
I mean, it definitely came from both of my parents,
my mom and my dad both. I definitely think I
saw it more of my dad, just by the way
he lived his life, the way he went to work,
and the way he interacted with others. His generosity is
truly something that I've never seen before, and it still
amazes me to this day. Everything that he does for

(27:51):
others and just his his natural is I guess not natural,
but has learned and just desire to serve others and
make those around him better. I think think I've just
he's taught me that and he's helped me learn the
ins and outs of that. And then credit to my
mom as well. She's she's absolutely amazing and sacrifices so
much for people she works with, then for her family.

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I think both my mom and my dad have been
amazing examples of just how to be a servant and
how serving others does not come from a point of weakness,
from a point of strength.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Yeah, you know, Moses h I would agree, I mean
I would. I'd be curious to know what was the
record at one time of the number of kids from
LBC Lancaster Bible College that came over to your house
one night and just come out and stayed. It had
to be in the fifties, easily in And so I mean, yes,

(28:44):
your mom, your mom put up with a lot, especially
our four boys over there all the time, and you know,
and and and your dad you know, but but and
you're you're absolutely right, and what I've seen with your
mom and dad, But your Grandpa Beers. Man, I'll tell
you what I I still think of your grandpa. I mean, man,
that guy would go up and and give twenty dollars

(29:06):
bills to try to, you know, to the trash men
and just say, hey, thanks for your thanks for your service, man,
enjoy enjoy lunch on me today or something like that.
I mean that that had an effect impact on me.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
And how did you meet the Beers family?

Speaker 2 (29:21):
We met him. We met him when we got up
to Northland. Uh. We left Denver, Colorado to go to
Northland Baptist Bible College. And I'd heard a lot about
Josh Beers. I'd never met him, but uh, once we met,
I started taking I took him a couple of times.
I remember the one big trip was to Ohio to
do some recruiting, and so I just spent my whole

(29:43):
time with Josh. And I mean, you know, I remember
walking into this gym and Josh goes, hey, man, what
are we doing? I mean, how are we going to
do this? I go follow me, baby, We're just going
to go love these kids and and see what they
want to do with God and man, they want to
come to get in the Bible college and play play ball.
We'll do it. He loved it, man, And he told
me afterwards, I mean, parents are coming and we were

(30:04):
there for two days. Parents are coming and seeing us,
saying thanks. We took kids out from pizza and stuff
like that. And Jock goes, I feel like it's the
last night of camp, man, everybody's coming. I go, yeah,
they don't want us to leave.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
It does not surprise me at all. His answer to
that question the servant leadership pardon. I've only met Josh
a couple of times. I've talked to him on the
phone a lot, but I've heard stories from you about
him and Anna and this family. And I love the
fact that we get a chance to talk to Moses
here on faith in zoone. We're going to get to
a break. Other side of the break will continue our conversation.

(30:39):
He is Moses Beers. He is was a soccer player
at Karen University. He's gonna graduate here in a couple
of months and then get married a week later, which
I love. I think that perfect time. We're gonna have
a lot of life changes. Might as well do them
all all all in seven days, baby, do them all
in seven days. We'll get to a break other side
will continue our conversation with Moses. This is Faith in

(31:03):
the Zone on Fox Sports Night twenty and Your I
Hurt Radio App. Welcome back to Faith in the Zone
on Fox Sports nine twenty your iHeart Radio app Live
from the Dead while recording kind of Lie from the
Divan the Jorge sin Hii Koli Studios, I Mike mcgive
her a longside. Pastor Ken Keltner from Brookside Baptist Church,
our special guest Moses Beers, former soccer player at Karen

(31:27):
University in Pennsylvania.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Pastor, Hey, Moses, I got this question for you as
you were growing up. Did your dad ever ever let
you win if he was competing against you in anything?

Speaker 3 (31:40):
Oh? Man, I mean I want to say, no, I
get a deal with answer. No, you a different answer?

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Oh no, No, he won't have a different answer.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
No.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
I can hear him saying no. Man, I mean, if
he's gonna come, if he's gonna bring it, he's gonna
bring it.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
I'm not gonna give him anything. Hey, Moses, your your
three sisters younger or older.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
I have two older, one younger.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
Are the two older younger? Did any of them follow
you or did you any of them go to Carrie
Karen University.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
No, none of them. None of them ended up at Karen.
Two of them ended up at Lankaster Bible College.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Actually, uh were they athletes?

Speaker 3 (32:20):
Yep? They both both played soccer. One still there right now.
And I think she's going to be a stud for
them in the in the future. So doesn't room for her.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Yeah, yeah, Zoe Brianna, Brianna played soccer.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
No, Brin bro got all the academic gifts, I know.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
Okay, so you're talking about you're talking about Mikayla and Zoe.
Oh yeah, all of a sudden, I had Breonna. I
thought I didn't really because every every every time we'd
go to the gym or anything, Brianna would go. But
she's over there in the stands reading a book.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
Yeah, kind of like me and you. That was just
like us, just like guys. Well, you know, you talked
about your Branna getting the book Smarts young man. You
kind of took took that role a little bit as well.
Again reading the Bible. The first and only Karen University
in the history academic All American by college Sports Communicators

(33:16):
in twenty twenty three. So I think academics you took
care of your business in the classroom a.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
Little bit, right, Yeah, I do my best.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
So what was your major?

Speaker 3 (33:28):
So I'm a major in marketing, minor and sports management.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
Okay, thank goodness, you read the stuff I want.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
I want.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
I want other people to understand.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Well, it's all right, it's right here, it's right, you know, Moses.
I do all this prep work and I give Pastor
all these sheets of paper and very well he didn't
bring his classes. You can't read it. It sets right here,
you know, three point a zero, three point aight. Oh,
while majoring in sports management, minoring and marketing. Hey, it

(33:58):
would dream job you would be what?

Speaker 3 (34:02):
Oh man, I would love. I mean, I love to
be a professional soccer player. But I think a dream job
now leaving college would be something something out a major
sports organization that involves doing the marketing or running the
social media social media pages for that Civiic sports team,
and also being involved in the public relations side of things.

(34:25):
I think that's super interesting. I think you get to
be at all the games, which I would love as well.
You'd get to have a relationship with the athletes and
the coaches, and then you could also be in charge
of framing the content for that team, which I think
would be awesome.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
You know Autumn amac who we add in a few
weeks ago on Faith in the Zone at Wisconsin Lutheran College.
I think sports management and marketing same degrees, And she
had a very similar answer. And you know I was.
I was direct sales and marketing for some pro and
so my pro sports teams here in Milwaukee, and I

(35:02):
was the general manager for an indoor soccer team in Chicago.
And if you were to google the worst general manager
in the history of pro sports, my picture probably pops up.
I'm telling you it was like I was running a
fantasy indoor soccer team Moses, and I traded a guy
ended up playing for the United States World Cup team,

(35:24):
and I traded for a guy named Joey Kirk. And
Joey could put the ball on the back of the net.
But Joey's a little bit older, and he had a
little bit of a problem going home at night, so
he would come. I'd have to get him out of
a tavern about one in the morning because we had
a game at eleven o'clock the next morning. And he
could put the ball the way back in the net.

(35:44):
But maybe the worst trade in the history of indoor
soccer was was me making this trade. And I lasted
one year and ran that place right into the ground,
and I ended up quitting about three days before. I
think I got fired, is what I'm thinking. But if
I was still in that business, I'd have you come
over and work for one of those teams. I think

(36:06):
that would be uh, that would be yeah, would be perfect.
You know, on your bio it does talk about, you know,
your hope of maybe stant at Karen for a few
more years, And I don't know, is coaching something that
you'd have interest in.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
For sure? I mean, I know my dad coached me
for a long time, and he coached the LBC team
as well, and he's coached my younger sister Zoe for
a long time as well. So I know that coaching
send me somewhere, and so I think I would just
have to go through it. And then I mean everything
surrounding coaching, I believe I would love. I love sports,

(36:41):
I love working with other people. So I think if
I could combine those things and be a coach, I
think I'd have a great time. If I could do
it at Karen, it would be amazing. I know I've
had some discussions about with coach Gibson about staying on
or filming the games, So we'll see what happens. But
if I'm in the area, I'm sure I'll be involved
in some some retrospect.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
Hey to you two more questions before we get to
a break. How was it playing for your father? You know,
I coached my son and it turned out really good.
It didn't start out all that well, Moses. I was
the adult in the room, and I had to change.
I wasn't his coach twenty four to seven, and I

(37:21):
had to make sure that I was his father, you know,
more than I was his coach, and I had to
make some adjustments in that relationship. What was it like
playing for your dad?

Speaker 3 (37:33):
I mean, I think in the moment, if you would
have asked me, I would have said, parts that are
difficult and frustrating and parts that are great. If I
could go back and play for him again, I would
do it in an absolute heartbeat. I think I was
when he coached me. There were some moments that were
difficult and frustrating, but I think it was really just
my immaturity showing. And he is a fantastic coach and

(37:55):
definitely felt like he was tougher on me at times.
But if you can't really complain about that, you want
to be good.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
Yeah, that's right, I'll tell you Moses. My boys would
say the two greatest coaches they ever had in their
life was Mike mcgiverren and Josh Bears And uh, I
would concur with them on that. I mean, it wasn't
just the x's and o's and the passion to get
out there and do your best and and win, and

(38:24):
the instruction of how to make you a better player,
but also your testimony, your walk with God, you know,
your love for him, your love for others. That that
was can I asked Moses a question?

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Yeah, like would? And I'm just wondering when Pastor would
come watch his boys play, would your dad come home
and complain that that Pastor ken was was yelling at
him after the game, like can I go home and
talk to my wife and go man? Pastor Kad like
lit me up after the game, said we should have
won by twenty five instead of ten. And I'm just

(38:57):
wondering should your dad probably had the same thing I had,
And you know, I'm wondering if Anna had to like
settle him down a little bit after Pastor Ken lit
him up.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
Trust me, it wasn't me that Anna had to sell
him down with. It was missus k. I mean, if
anybody could get in Josh Meres's head, it was Katrin
keltner Man, And I mean she would light him up.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
Boy. You know what your dad and if we've lived
some of the same experiences, brother, I can tell you
tell Josh I got through that. And you know she
would record our high school games. And I don't know
if she always knew that the microphone was out, but
I could hear what she was saying when I went home.
I loved coaching his boys, and I'm sure that your

(39:40):
dad did as well. Guys, we've got to get you
a break. Our special guest he is Moses Beers. He
met soccer player at Karen University in Pennsylvania. He's about
to graduate sports management, minoring in marketing. And your fiance's
first name, Julia Julie. Is she a sports fan? She is.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
She's a sports fan when you're playing people.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
That are plying, so like college, she loves it, but
professional sports not so much.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Yeah, and you're a big Phillies anything, Phillies Eagles, you know, yeah, yeah,
how do you spell eagles?

Speaker 1 (40:17):
By the way, Yeah that was really funny. By the way,
yeah that was Josh says, you spell it anyway. We're champions, man,
we're champions. Well, anyway you want. How are the seventy
six ers doing this? Yere?

Speaker 3 (40:32):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (40:32):
Yeah, okay, let's get you a break. Yeah, I know there,
there you go. I would have a hard time being
a seventy six Ers fan right now. I just would be.
I can tell you we being a Bucks fan, I'm
struggling with them at times as well. Again, our special guest,
he's Moses Beers, men's soccer player at Karen University. You

(40:53):
get to a break on this side of break, well
ask him that question. We always ask at the end
of faith in the zone, what you for? Do you
think he's gonna pull pastor?

Speaker 2 (41:02):
I think he's gonna pull out one of his younger
when he was a small boy and he was taking
me on in one on. I don't think that, And
I was playing on my knees and I think I
was dunking on you most We're.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
Gonna find out. Well, I ask you, Moses that question.
Nobody remembers that, and we're not supposed to lie on
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(41:36):
former soccer player at Karen University in Pennsylvania, love answer
asking this question. At the end, all the uniforms you've
ever put on, from playing you know, flag football as
a kid to finishing your college soccer career, we put
them all in the closet. You get to put pick
one uniform out to get one more game with that team.

(41:57):
What uniform do you pick? Who do you play against?

Speaker 3 (41:59):
And Yep, for me, it would definitely be the Cairn
University uniform and it would it would be to replay
the last game of my junior season. It was a
playoff game against Saint Elizabeth and it was as we
talked about earlier, it was my first playoff game because
I had injuries the first two years and we was

(42:21):
pretty standard playoff game. It was at home, it was
a night game. So the stagers set. We're up to
one with two minutes left, and we have a throw in,
and we have a guy on our team named Jesse,
and he's he's kind of like our goal scorer. He's
our guy up top. He scores our goals and ball
goes out of bounds. We go on the counter, we

(42:42):
throw it in super quick and Jesse makes a run
in behind and we throw it in. He goes over
to the center back set. He like gets to flick
on it and goes to our guy, Jesse, who's now
in order to breakaway. Two minutes left. He scores three
to one. Games definitely over. If he don't score, we
get a corner, we can drain the rest of the clock.
We really should not lose this game. And Ar lifts

(43:02):
his flag up for off sides, which if you viole
soccer at all, you know it is basically impossible to
be off sides on a throw in. So we all
kind of lose our minds because we're just like, how
is that possible? He's offside on the throw and so
they get a free kick, and there's still no excuse
for this, but they end up scoring with five seconds left,

(43:22):
they scored on there's like ten seconds left, they buddle
up for midfield. How teams do they fifty to fifty
header falls to their guy who has a half filey
from eighteen yards out that just skirts in as the
rainy day goes in bottom corner and to to go
to overtime, nobody scores and they end up beating us
in PKS. So I think that like that game was

(43:44):
the hardest loss in my career with that team. And
if I could replay that, because I truly believe we
were the bit like we would have won it all
that year, Like that team went and lost in TKS
in the next game in the championship. So I really
just felt like those last two minutes of that game,
if I could just do over anything for my soccer career,
it would be right there, just have that opportunity again

(44:06):
to win that game and keep that season going.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
I got one question, did they choose you to take
the penalty kick?

Speaker 3 (44:13):
Yeah? I was, so I was the first taker?

Speaker 1 (44:15):
How did you do?

Speaker 3 (44:19):
And then we I think we missed two last both missed.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
Do you know that I have no dog in the fight?
And I feel like I want to throw up after
I just the tough part with that for me is,
look the whole team that that can't be a call,
and so you're kind of like, wait, what happened, And
so you get a little discombobulated, and now they score

(44:47):
with with five seconds to go. And I'm surprised that
you guys got it to Pks because you know, when
when something like that happens, usually the team scores pretty
quick and you lose three to two. So I pretty happy,
pretty proud of you guys to be able to get
it back together and at least get it to Pek's.
But man, oh man, that that's a difficult loss. Moses.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
Yeah, well, trust me, Mike and I have been out
there on the field with our boys and our boys
at college and watching watching tough games, and but that's
how it goes. You can't face My dad used to
tell me, if you can't face defeat, you can't compete.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
Yeah, he's right, but that one was tough. Hey, Moses,
thank you so much for the time. Again. He is
Moses Beers former soccer player Karen University's getting going to
graduate at the end of the school year and getting
married a week later. A lot of changes in this
young man's life coming and we certainly will be praying
for him. Moses, have a great day, thanks for your time.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
Thank you guys as well.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
I have a good day, you bet. This is Faith
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