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Heartfeat St. Louis with AKAPG Holidaybringing you the faulse of the city.
Hey, what's up this boy?At BJ j ak a BJ holiday?
And today on the show, we'regoing to talk about the FBI's UH Citizen
Academy. I had an opportunity,uh to go through the class, which
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was the introductory class. But youknow what, I'm going to be learning
a lot every week, and everyweek we're going to come on with my
man, Uh is a Federal Agentin charge? Or what? How do
how do you is that? It? It is FBI Special Agent in charge?
Special Agent in charge. Now I'mgonna say this because I got to
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bring this up. So you guysuse a lot of acronyms, and uh,
miss miss miss Rebecca sent me anemail and should use an acronym.
And I had to sit there forat least about ten minutes trying to figure
out what in the world was shetrying to say because she said sat which
was sack. And then I'm sittingthere going, okay, uh, you
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know, will you know the sackand I will see you at one pm?
And I'm going, okay, whatdoes this mean? And then I'm
sitting there looking at the letters,and I'm going, okay, I'm about
to be an FBI agent for thefirst time in my life. I'm gonna
figure this out, right. Ijust sat there and went S A T
S A C S A C sAC special agent charge. Oh, special
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agent in charge. That's it?What's it? Well, so why do
the FBI use all these acronyms.Well, it's it's, uh, you
know, like any language right asit is its own language inside our walls.
So you're telling me as I gothrough this Citizen Academy, I'm gonna
pick up a Do I need tocall it a foreign language or fbil A.
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Yeah, we'll make sure and getyou some language credit, gets you
qualified as a Federal linguist year outwhich the language you speak right? Anyway,
ladies and gentlemen, Mister J.Greenberg's in the studio movie what's up
man? How you doing? Hey? BJ? Thanks for having me?
Not a problem. Okay, So, Citizen Academy, you guys do it?
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I guess you could do it everyyear? Is it we do?
It's an annual program. We meeta number of weeks in a row,
anywhere from sixty eight weeks depending onthe exact agenda and program each one of
our field offices, does it.We have field offices in fifty six different
cities. Obviously, we have onehere in Saint Louis, which is a
big hub for the area, andwe're fortunate to have you on our class
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this year. Okay, so whywhy did you think it was important to
have like the Citizen Academy. Yeah, so the FBI with our mission set,
you know, it's really broad,as we talked about in the class,
that we cover a lot of differentthings and the FBI has a lot
of mystique surrounding it and that iswell earned over our history. But at
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the same time, it's not alwaysin our best interest for people not to
have a clear understanding of what wedo. So the whole goal of Sistance
Academy is to connect with business,social, religious, community leaders and make
sure you guys have information about whatwe do, what our priorities are,
so that if you see something thatyou think would be of interest to us,
that we make sure and hear aboutit. Sort of our form of
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community community outreach programs, community policing. Yeah, I know that you guys
had a plectival people, you knowin the room, I mean, you
had people from like Beer, youhad people from the one lady was assistant
to somebody that was in politics.You had a past over there, you
know, you had who as,you had this guy he was from another
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country that was there. And thenyou had some military people there, you
know what I mean. So Iwas like, Okay, let me break
this down. At least I'll beprayed for a while. I'm into class.
I might I might just pass.But anyway, now, one of
the things I want to talk toyou about, because this has been on
my mind, sister, class.There are four satellite offices in Missouri,
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and I think I know it's Rolla's, Saint Louis and where else are there,
Cape Girardo, and Kirksville. Okay, so explain to me what those
four offices are. Sure, Soour headquarters, city office, our main
offices right here in Saint Louis.We're in charge of the Eastern District of
Missouri. So the FBI field officesare organized around the US Attorney's offices and
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the judicial districts around the nation.So Saint Louis is the head of the
Eastern District of Missouri judicial court system. Federal Judicial Court system. It's also
where the US Attorney's Office is located. That's why it's our main office here.
But then we also have satellite officesout in Kirksville, Ralla, and
Cape Girardo. Because of all thethreats that we manage, we have either
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vulnerable populations there or opportunities to engagewith local partners that require us to have
offices there so that we have peoplewho can address the wide variety of our
priorities. Okay, so you saidsomething about, you know, like threats
and stuff like that, But whynot like Kansas City, you know what
I mean? Why Cape Grato,Why you know Roo? When we're talking
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about threats, I mean, isthere something in these towns that may make
it more threatable or you know whatI mean that type of day. Yeah,
So we're talking right now, specificallyabout our Saint Louis office and the
Eastern District of Missouri. When weslide over, Kansas City is actually located
in two different judicial districts, theWestern District of Missouri, so they cover
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sort of half the state to thewest of here. We cover half the
state to the east of here,So our Kansas City office covers the western
half of Missouri, and they havea number of satellite offices around the western
half of Missouri as well, andthey also cover the entire state of Kansas,
which is called the District of usOh Okay, God to God,
to God to God. Now whenwe talk about you know, the officer
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in Saint Louis the satellite offices,what are the function of them? You
know what, what exactly do theydo? I mean, because I don't
see FBI agent just pulling me over, you know what I'm saying. When
I'm driving down the street. I'mnot looking for y'all. But y'all have
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a unique way of just showing up. We do. The FBI is really
unique and that we are both partof the national security apparatus for the nation
and for the world, and we'realso a domestic meaning covering the United States
Law Enforcement Agency. So we havethose two separate missions, but they combine
to give us really unique authorities aroundthe world, and those two different areas,
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as you can imagine, provide usa wide variety of in roads with
our partners and a way to positivelyimpact the communities where we all live.
On the criminal side, you know, our folcus is here in Saint Louis,
include stopping violent crying, bringing thesubjects to justice who are victimizing our
communities with violent crime. We alsoinvestigate public corruption, civil rights, white
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color crime, healthcare fraud, crimesagainst children. So we have a really
wide aperture there. You're it's unlikelythat anybody will ever get pulled over by
an FBI agent unless it's part ofan operation and we had a pre existing
investigation which led to our identification ofthem, and then there's an operational opportunity.
Okay, now I gotta, Igotta, I gotta ask this question,
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you know what I mean, justwant to know, Just for my
sake, I like to speed.So if I go flying by an FBI
agent, they're just gonna let mego. Oh They're gonna go. I
think I need to stop the sky. Yeah. So the benefit of being
with the FBI is that we enforcefederal code. So even if you're speeding
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on a highway, that's not afederal law that you're breaking. That's the
law that you're breaking at the statelevel or the local level. So there
will really be almost never a clausewhere an FBI gem would pull you over
something that happens on the road.Now, if we do have a felony,
a violent felony that's committed in ourpresence. So let's say when you
go down the road, you andanother car get into it and you start
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shooting at each other. Right,then there may be an opportunity where we
would take action to protect all theinnocence around you. But you're just go
blowing through a red light. Youyou know, you don't stop the right
way to stop sign, you don'tput your signal on, you fail,
You're to yield to somebody getting onthe highway. That's not FBI crime.
Now, Okay, I just wantedyou know, because you know, sometimes
I go down the street. Ijust thought I just said, you know,
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act that quick. I mean becausepeople don't know, you know,
because we really don't know what theFBI does. You know what I'm saying.
Yeah, And that's where you want. I'm so happy about this class.
Now. The other thing that youknow, okay, let me let
me transparency. You hear, allright? So I knew that FBI stood
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for Federal Bureau of an Investigation.But when we was in that class,
bro, you said something that wouldjust really like different. It can of
you know, through me for aloop. So what do FBI stand for
in the in the FBI world.Yeah, Internally for us, we talk
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about fidelity, bravery, and integrity. It's three core components of enforcing our
mission in a way that is somethingwe can talk about, and an internal
code of conduct which we hold ourselves. So when we say fidelity, we
mean fidelity to the constitution, rigorousobedience to the constitution, standing up bravery.
It's both bravery for our mission becauseit's incredibly dangerous, and it's also
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bravery for our organization that when wesee something that we think is not right,
we have to be willing to goto bat for the organization by saying
something that maybe a hard truth.And then integrity, you know, doing
the right thing every time in theright way, so that nothing we do
is questionable, so it's always explainableand we always feel good about the decisions
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we make. Okay. And theother thing is that I noticed that when
we talk about I don't know ifwe you know, in my world,
like all it elect the chain ofcommand. It was like, uh,
you know, it was the WhiteHouse, then it was some something,
and then it was the FBI.And then it had you know, had,
So what is that for everybody?You know that chain of command because
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I know it's thoughts with the WhiteHouse, right it does. Yes.
On the federal level, we're partof the executive branch, which is headed
by the President. You know,the three branches of government at the federal
level, Judicial, legislative, andexecutive. Judicials all the courts the proceedings
there. Legislative is Congress making thelaws. The FBI is part of the
executive branch. We conduct the businessof the federal government, and our particular
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part is enforcing the laws that Congresshave passed and that the courts have said
our valid laws. So our jobis really just federal law enforcement. We
fall under the Department of Justice,along with the United States Marshal Service,
the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco AT Firearms, and the Drug Enforcement Administration, so
DA atf US Marshall's Service and FBIwere all the law enforcement components of the
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Department of Justice. M okay,all right, Because when I saw that,
I was like, okay, I'mconfused, but I ended up getting
it and then I was like,okay, I forgot anyway, you know,
On the local level, The wayto think about it is Saint Louis
Metro is under the control and directionof the mayor. Right, Missouri State
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Highway Patrol is under the control anddirection of the governor. Right that,
the lead executive in Saint Louis isthe mayor, the lead executive in Saint
Louis County is the county executive,the lead executive in the state is the
governor, and the lead executive inthe nation is the president. So we're
we fall under the president, justlike all these different levels of lawn festkative.
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Okay, that that makes a littlebit more sense. Now let me
let me let me ask this question. Now, we talked about a little
bit about the class, and we'regonna come back to it, but we
have to talk about you for asecond, because you have an interesting story
of how you became a federal agent. And when I first met you,
you talked about it, but inthe class you talked about how you didn't
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make it right, and then youwent in and you started talking to them
and you said something and then theywere like, Okay, if you you
know what I mean, sure,it's an amazing story. So you want
to talk about that. How youhow you because you were doing something?
Is it I work? Was?I was doing consulting. I started out
technical and then I went into businessprocess redesigning, corporate strategy, identify new
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markets, making better profits, thattype of thing. But I have a
degree in engineering, and after adegree in engineering, went into consulting,
corporate strategy, business process redesigned.I'd always thought I would be in law
enforcement or military, and post nineto eleven that really woke me up and
told me, hey, it's time. It's time to start giving back to
the community. That this great countrywhich has enabled me to have the life
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that I have in my family wouldhave the life that we have so very
service oriented perspective. Unlike a lotof people, I didn't grow up knowing
from the time I was six yearsold that I wanted to be an FBI
agent. I knew I wanted todo something that mattered in my life.
I didn't know exactly what that wasgoing to mean. So when it came
time after nine to eleven and kindof got to wake up that it was
time to go ahead and make thatservice contribution that I had talked about,
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I started looking around at all thedifferent federal law enforcement entities, and I
really didn't know the difference between anyof them. And then I had a
friend at the same company I workedat who left and joined the FBI,
and we went out for lunch andhe said, Hey, if you're thinking
about federal law enforcement, you gotto come here. This is where you
want to be because we have nationalsecurity under our responsibility, and we also
have criminal which means your whole careeryou can change. You can work cyber
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you can counter terrorism, counterintelligence,a variety of criminal investigations. It's really
appealing to me with the idea thatyou could work for somewhere for a long
time and constantly have something new tofocus on. So when I first applied,
anybody who goes to FBI Jobs dotgov and applies to be a special
agent, one of the first questionsis will you take assignment anywhere in the
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nation. And because of my familysituation, I knew I needed to be
in a big city, and sosome of the smaller cities where we have
offices weren't going to work for myfamily setup. So I initially said no
to that question. I immediately gotkicked out. I got rejected from the
FBI. So I scheduled an appointment. I went in and talked to the
applicant coordinator in the office. Iwas processing out of the Chicago office at
the time, and she and Isat down had a conversation and she said,
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hey, you know, where's ityou want to go? And I
said, all the major cities Andshe said, well, tell me which
major cities you want to go to. And I said, oh, well,
we'll go to DC or San Francisco, or LA or New York.
Because she said, just stop,stop right because we're paid a federal salary,
which is you know, it's canbe a step up for some people,
can be a step down for otherscoming from corporate America. You know,
I took a pay cut to comehere. But you know, she
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said, hey, if you're willingto go to any of those cities,
just go back in. Put theanswer, yes, put your big cities
there. We will get you onone of those big cities. And sure
enough, Washington, DC was mythird officer preference that I set when I
entered the academy, and that's wherewe wound up going. Now, you
gotta say it a little joke aboutsomething that I don't know, if you
want to talk about this, howthey pick the people like something some some
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type of some was some alcohol inor the some and they threw it at
a board and then that's where yougo. Yeah, if you if you
remember. It was funny because whatwe talked about the class was the other
guy who presented right, one ofthe assistants special ages in charge in the
office, was talking about how heand the guy sitting right next to him
had the same name but spelled differently. He wanted to go to Denver and
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he didn't get that, and hegot a lower ranked office. And then
the guy right next to him gotDenver and he said, hey, I
think HR messed up our names.Right, they were supposed to send me
there. But you know, wedo when our human resources division looks at
where people want to go, andthey look at where our holes are in
staffing, and we try to tryto take care of the whole nation to
make sure that everybody's got adequate representationnationwide. And we do as agents.
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When we sign up, we signup knowing we're not going back to our
our home city. So I processedhim from Chicago. At the time,
there was absolutely no you know,justification for going back to your home city.
So we knew we weren't going toChicago. We didn't know where we
were going, but we knew oneplace we weren't going, and that was
Chicago. All right. So itsounds like you guys do like the military
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does. It's like I guess,basically what HR do is it's like they
look at the person. They lookat that individual, and then they say,
this person may be a good fitto be able to be a part
of this operation. This person maybe a good fit to be a part
of this operation because like in themilitary, they have to decide on what
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platoon, what division they're going tosend overseas, and where that need is
for for a mission, and whocan be the best platoon or unit to
be able to make sure it's asuccessful mission. So I think they kind
of do like they're doing a militaryI'm just throwing something out there. I
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just wanted to make it sound good. That's a you know what I mean.
I just I just threw that outthere. It sounded good in my
head, but I don't know howit sounded good coming over the radio.
But anyway, Um, the otherthing is that how many years have you
been with the FBI coming up oneighteen eighteen years and so you started out
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as just a field agent. Idid. I started out as a special
agent. I did that for anumber of years, and then I went
to headquarters and I became a supervisoryspecial agent, which meant I was in
charge of a program. I workedin public corruption at headquarters, just like
I did as an investigating agent beforeI went to headquarters. And then I
went out with the same title supervisoryspecial agent, but actually ran a squad
sort of like a fire team,smaller than a platoon, about ten to
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fifteen people. I was in ourfort Worth Resident Agency out of the Dallas
office, similar to those offices wetalked about, like Kirksville and Cape and
Ralla out of Saint Louis. SoI worked out of our Fort Worth office.
I was in charge of the publiccorruption program for all of North Texas,
and I was in charge of allwhite collar crime investigations, public corruption,
civil rights, white collar both corporatefrauds as well as oil and natural
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gas investment fraud type of things,all over Fort Worth, basically from Waco
north to the border with Oklahoma andsort of west towards Lubbock. Man and
now you're the federal agent. Andyep. From there, I went to
a special Agent in charge assistant specialAgent in charge of our Chicago office.
It's one of our bigger offices.So I was there with a number of
assistant special Agents in charge. It'sin charge of Criminal Enterprise branch. They're
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doing looking into both the investor ofviolent crime and white collar crime, public
corruption in a number of facets.I went to be a chief of our
Violent Crime Section in Washington, dC. And after doing that a little
over a year, I became adeputy assistant director over half of our Criminal
Investigative Division and then did that forjust under two years and then came here
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as a special Agent in charge.So when we say special agent in charge,
what does that mean? I meanyou know what I mean because I'll
be hearing that, you know.I mean, I mean you got a
cool name, man, I meanyou come in you'd be like, he's
a special agent in charge. Sowhat what you know? Kind of what
does that mean? I mean?You know what I mean? Yeah,
so you're trying to get me introuble. I'm gonna tell funny story.
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So it really what it really meansin the Eastern District of missourias of the
buck stops with me. So ifsomething good happens, as because the team
ran a good race, they workedhard, they did a good job collecting
their evidence, they worked with theirpartners at the US Attorney's Office and all
of our state and local agency partners, and they came to a great outcome.
In a case, if something goeswrong, that's on me because I
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didn't manage it the right way.That happened under me, and that's that's
my failure. That's really what itmeans. But when I was in one
of my prior roles as an assistantspecial Agent charge, my kids were much
younger at that time, and Iwas trying to explain to them at home
one night what I did. AndI had, you know a little bit
a little many kids, and sowe were, you know, we were
talking about it, and they're like, hey, yeah, Dad, are
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you going to kick in the doortoday. You're going to arrest somebody?
You're going to do searches? AndI said, no, guys, I
don't. I don't do that anymore. I'm kind of like I'm trying to
talk to like, you know,three year old, a five year old.
I'm like, you know, I'mkind of like a boss in the
office, right, Like it justthink of me, is you know,
I'm in charge of some stuff inthe office, more like a boss.
I don't really do anymore now,I'm there to help organize and leading everything.
Well, wouldn't you know we hadan office party like a few months
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later, and one of the employeescomes over laughing to me and he says,
hey, one of your sons cameup to me and he said,
I'll bet you know who my dadis. He's one of the bosses.
And I just about crawled in ahole. Right. They're so embarrassed because
we do pride ourselves on humility andon being good team players, and so
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definitely definitely a good, humbling lessonfor me. So I guess the assistant
special agent in charge, would youwear at the time, you learned a
valuable lesson lesson be careful what yousay to your kids, because your kids
would say the darns. That's right. I learned a good lesson about being
a dad by being an FBI agent, that's right. And you know,
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and I can just see the kidjust chess all poked out and everything else.
But either way, ladies and gentlemen, I'm talking with Jay Greenberg.
He is the Special Agent in charge, Federal Special Agent in charge that's right
here in Saint Louis, and Iwanted to take time for him to talk
about himself so you can kind ofget to know him and you know that
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type of thing. So Jay,let's let's have some fun questions. Man,
hobbies. What do you like todo? So definitely, everybody who's
an agent, we all like towork out, go get fitness in some
form of fashions. You know,it's a mix of you know, just
stand in shape. These tailored suitsare very forgiving, so we gotta we
gotta stay in shape. We gotto look the part, and we got
to be in shape for whatever theduty brings us. There could be a
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crisis that we respond to, likeCVPA may have a long day, um,
and so you know, you've gotto be in shape to handle whatever
the mission throws at you. Butfor me, Um, I've lifelong I've
I've loved being a runner. UM. So that's that's definitely one of my
hobbies. I'm a huge readers.Most people in the FBI are readers.
We like to expose ourselves to differentthings, and so whether it's you know,
reading or other avenues like that,and pretty much. Now, I'm
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a family guy. So if I'mnot working out or reading, I'm generally
with the family, just trying totrying to get you know, the folks
on this side into the middle ofthe folks on this side and to the
middle and get everybody go in theright direction of the family. Okay.
So all right, So you'd liketo work out, okay, all right.
So and he liked a family guyand he'd like to read. Okay,
I now what else do you liketo do? Jay? Come on,
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I mean to the baseball game.Oh of course, of course you
love the Cardinals. Come on,I mean BJ you know, as a
as a Alae native, I gottatell you, I gotta tell you.
Yeah, I can still see itin twenty eleven. You know, it's
it's the ninth and we had ashot. It was just one more out
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and maybe a different angle in theoutfield. We had something different we could
talk about. I'll never root againstthe home teams, right, but I
was there when the Stars won theCup in ninety nine. I was there
when the Rangers were making their runs. So you know, definitely grew up
in Dallas. I came by ithonestly. But Dallas Cowboys, Dallas Cowboys,
yea, we get so. Well, yeah, this is how see,
this is how you get to knowthe federal special agent in charge.
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You want to know what team heroots for? You know what I mean,
Well, it's America's team. Imean, I would imagine everybody in
America roots for America's team. No, nope, nope, nope, nope,
nope, that is not America's team. The Dallas Cowboys. I know,
we got a lot of Dallas Cowboysfans here in Saint Louis. But
no, you're lucky. We don'thave football team. We got the Battle
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Hawks out of Hawks, we hada Hawks are strong and this and the
soccer club city look at Cardinals Blues. It's a big, big sports town.
It's a big sports town in SaintLouis. So, how has Saint
Louis been for you and to you? Yeah, Saint Louis has been great.
You know, Saint Louis is justfull of great Midwestern stock people right
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there. Friendly, They love thisplace. There has been tremendous investment in
and around the city for a longtime, a really long, proud history
in this city. There's a tremendousamount for people to do, whether you're
young, whether you're old, whetheryou're part of a family. Right the
parks, the bikes, the museums, the different opportunities downtown, everything once
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you get outside the city with allthe outdoor activities, the different refugee centers
and rescue clubs. I mean,it's just this is a really neat place
and all of the folks who arefrom here have just welcomed us with open
arms. It's been wonderful being here. Well, of course you're the fellow
agent and Todd who's been not goingto be who's not going to be nice
to you. But one of thethings I want to say is I appreciate
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you being open to talk to thepublic. You know, we've we've never
really had that in the past,because I think it's important to people.
As people, you know, knowabout the police chiefs and they learn about,
you know, the fire chief andstuff like that. We need to
know about everybody that is protecting us, you know what I mean, And
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who's in charge to that and howdoes that person think? You know,
what did that person you know,just who is that person? Because who
that person is it makes us feellike if we're going to be safe or
not, you know what I mean? Yeah, Well that the nation BJ
could use, right, we canuse the best and brightest that Saint Louis
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is turning out, and we coulduse the tremendously kind principle people with integrity
who are grown up here in thewonderful family structure that Saint Louis affords.
You know, the world could reallyuse some of the kindness and integrity and
capability that grows up right here inSt. Louis. And the FBI is
one of those avenues. If somebodywants to come work in cyber we're always
hiring STEM and cyber resources. Ifsomebody wants to go make a difference overseas,
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we have overseas postings on behalf ofthe federal government. If somebody wants
to join an office and go seethe nation and get to travel around and
make a contribution to the national community, we have that and we would welcome
people, whether their accountants or lawyers, police officers, military background engineers like
me. Really, we hire everysingle background and then we take those backgrounds
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and we put diverse backgrounds together because, as you know, diverse teams are
more capable and they get to bettersolutions faster together when you build the right
dynamic. Yeah. Yeah, Andthe one thing about it is is that
you have all these different opinions inthese voices are being heard. And that's
one of the things that I loveabout, you know, the citizen the
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cas to me because I know thatthe week, you know, the first
week was more of an introduction.I know, we're going to get into
some really good deep conversations as we'regonna go along, you know, through
the academy and stuff we're going tolearn and and we'll be able to pass
some things along to you guys,you know, so you can learn about
our beautiful city and he kind ofunderstand what's going on and how you know,
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the different communities you know function,you know, because although there were
people in the room that looked likeme, but we still from different communities
from Saint Louis, and I sawpeople in there that didn't look like me,
that looked the same, but everybodyfrom a different community. And so
you got all these voices in theroom. That what makes the academy great.
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So we're gonna come back next week. We're gonna talk more next week
about the academy. We're gonna talkabout you know, what's going on in
the FBI. This has been agreat learning experience for me thus far,
and I'm enjoining and I appreciate thatyou are open to come in and talk
about it, you know what Imean, man, But I gotta get
it to get you away from themDallas Cowboys though. Bro, we're gonna
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have to give you a we got. We got to get a team.
We're gonna have to make you abattle Hawks fan. That's been a lifetime
in the making. I won't rootagainst the battle Hawks. I'm all for
it. Bring it on. Wegot another league coming in town. I
love to see him do well.Yeah, yeah, because battle Hawks.
You know that's that's my team.Man. You know I don't you know
that's my team. But you knowI ain't gonna tell you my football team.
Everybody get mad at me on theradio, So I don't want to
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start a war. I was gonnaask, but you obviously you're staring away
from We'll just go back to theCarts, great franchise, and we're going
to the Cardinals, going to theCardinals and the Blues. We'll stay right
there because my football team people kindof mad at them right now. I
don't want to stay up no oldyou know, old frustration. But anyway,
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Jay Greensburg, the Federal Special Agentin charge right here in Saint Louis
um always open for questions if peoplewant to find out about jobs, or
if they want to find out youknow, how to give information today FBI.
Is there a phone number or websiteor you know, email whatever,
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do you want to share that withus? Absolutely, people want to learn
more about the FBI. You cango to FBI dot gov if you're interested
in applying for a job, seeingwhat we have out there FBI Jobs dot
gov. We're always taking tips attips dot FBI dot gov. Or you
can call us. Really easy toremember one eight hundred call FBI gets answered
twenty four seven. All right,Thank you so much, Jay. Thanks
PJ Heart feat St. Louis withPJ A k apg Holiday bringing you the
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faults of the city.