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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, it's Lucy Chapman. Thanks again so much for joining
me on another Here's More and the Here's More part
is we've been talking about Bridal Fair, and of course
Bridalfair tickets are part of all this week more free stuff,
along with some other great prizes. But because we don't
always get a chance to really go deep into some
of the events that we're doing, I wanted Bruce to
(00:23):
come in. Bruce is Bruce, theboth of Bridle Fair, the twogether. Bruce,
Thank you so much for joining me.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Hi, Lucy, it's good to be with you again. Was
created by a radio broadcaster by the name of Don Burden,
who people who have been around Omaha a long time
would remember was the owner of Koil and.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
KFM Coil Radio, Oh mighty twelve ninety.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
He started it as a broadcast promotion, did the first
shows in nineteen sixty seven, got a friend of his
who owned a station in Buffalo, New York, Larry Levitt
WKBW in Buffalo. He got him to do that same year,
got him to do one and so they did four
shows their first year in his stations in Portland, Oregon, Indianapolis, Omaha,
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and then of course the Buffalo one, and then Bridalfair
was born as a separate company and I went on
as an employee in nineteen seventy two, and I bought
the company from him in nineteen seventy six.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
And here we are.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
So you liked it so much.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I bought the companies like the shaver guy. Right.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Well, but there's something else, a little bit newer about
Bridal Fair as far as the title goes. In the
name of it, you added something a couple of years
ago that really works well today.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
You're talking about the sub brand. Yes, the Together Show
spelled two g E t h R. Because we felt
we needed to show people we were inclusive, and we
didn't want to be blatant about it because we do
have a wide array of exhibitors. Some are very conservative,
some are more liberal, so we don't want to offend anyone.
So we figured, well, if we imply that we're inclusive,
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this way, people will get the message. And I've had
actually same sex couples come up to me and say
thank you because they felt welcome when they saw that
sub brand name of the two gather show, because it
takes two people to come together, right.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
I've been to Bridle Fair a couple of times, and
the first time that I went, it was just I
was overwhelmed. It was so cool, there were so many
things there. And then the next time I went there,
I'm like, oh, yeah, I know about this stuff, I
know where to go. Yeah, but it is something that
maybe somebody would only go to one time, so they
might not understand what a bridal fair is about and
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what they can find there.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Well, you know, I happened to be a founding board
member of the only trade group that represents this industry.
It used to be called Bridle Show Producers International. They
changed their name in November. Our board of directors did
to Wedding Show Producers International, again trying to be more
inclusive because there are weddings and our brides and you know. Okay,
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and I don't know if you remember this, but I
actually have two degrees. One is in business ones in sociology,
so I've studied the social statistics side as well as
the business side of this industry. In fact, years ago,
I don't know if I told you this, but they
did a big TV show on ABC Network called The
Wonderful Wide World of Weddings and this the talent for
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that was Cloris Leachman really and they got it was
a Chuck Braverman production and they got all of their
research from us, from Bridal Fair.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
That's very cool, Nod. You had not mentioned that.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Well, see, we keep every time we have more.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Catching up to do those exactly. So when I come,
when I if I'm a bride and I come to
the show on Saturday at the Relevant Center from ten
am until one thirty, and let's you, it's best to
get pre registered.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yes, and not only that, but we are giving we're
doing something different this year. Because of the economy. We
decided to give out free tickets for a limited time
and we've extended it through some time this week, but
we're not saying quite yet when. So we encourage if
a bride wants to go and bring her friends, this
is a good time to do it while there's still
free tickets because at the door there'll be ten dollars.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
And it's Omaha bridle Fair.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
It's just well it's Bridle Fair. People call it the
Omaha Bridle Fair because that is our trademark. It's a
federal trademark we own, so it's a brand. And some
people call it Omaha Bridlefair. Just say some just say
bridle Fair to the website www dot Bridlefair dot com.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
That's what I was going for, Bridlefair dot com. That's
where you can get registered and maybe get into those
free tickets. But it's best to get registered anyway. But
if you don't, if you just come to the door,
you're certainly welcome you.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Oh, yes, because you can still register at the door.
The benefit of registering little trade secret too. If if
you've missed out on the free tickets, we will still
have the ability to register.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
On your phone at the door.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
So if you don't want to stand out, see you
don't have to stand in line. You can well pretty
good signal inside, so you can do it inside in
the warmth. Although this weather that's supposed to be I
think in the fifties or even sixty this weekend. So yeah,
it's going to be a great day.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah. I had the window open last night.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Yeah, isn't that one?
Speaker 1 (05:13):
It was one week ago. It was the temperatures were
so brutal you were freezing your face off. Just walk
into your car.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Well you might remember it.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
I also have Pacifena horses and they don't like that
cold weather.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Imagine they don't and that'll be very happy right now, and.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
So am I Trekking up to the barn in the
cold weather is no fun, right all right?
Speaker 1 (05:34):
So we get into the Bridle Fair. We're into the
Relevant Center, which is a beautiful place. If you have
not been, gosh, come to the Relevant Center. Come to
the Bridle Fair just to see the Relevant Center. But
you get in and there are all kinds of vendors
from everything from money planning to wedding cakes, to dresses,
to gift and gift giving and gift I mean, everything
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is there.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Well.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
We try to have a wide variety, and we do
have some exhibitors who have been with us for a
number of years. Unfortunately, we recently lost one to a
because they were sold and they couldn't staff the show
this year. But a lot of the vendors are long
term people that have been with us for many years,
and we try to go after a wide variety. Many
of the bridal shows that are done, or wedding shows
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that you hear about, focus entirely on the wedding ceremony.
And I always say it only takes a couple of
a few hours to walk down the island and have
a reception, the big party after all, right, and then
you have your whole life ahead of you. So we've
often said to our retailers, this is the future of
all retails. So we try to represent the entire retail
community things that the bride not only needs to get
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married or the couple needs, but also in setting up
their new household. And that's where because that takes the
rest of their lives, you know, that's what they'll be doing.
And as long as they stay in the Omaha market,
they're going to be a potential customer for many of
these businesses well into the future.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Who would leave this beautiful Omaha seite?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
I know, you know, and I'm originally from New York.
I came out here when I was in the Air
Force and I met my wife here in state.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Well, yeah, but little a little stab at our government. Yeah,
but taxes in New York were probably just as high
as they are here.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Well, you stay in some ways, you.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Might as well stay.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Might as well stay about boom.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Bridalfair together this weekend you find out more at Bridlefair
dot com. And we're going to talk about bridle Fair
a little bit more. But Bruce, you and I were
talking off air. We wanted to I wanted to do
something a little bit different on this podcast because I
know you, but I don't know everything about you. But
everything I do know about you is like fascinating. And
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you're even writing a book because you have a fascinating life.
What is the working title?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
The working title is the Extraordinary Life of an ordinary guy, and.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
The little bit I know about you it fits. I.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Well, thank you.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Tell me a little bit about your life. You mentioned
you're from New York.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I'm from New York State, about sixty miles north of
New York City in a little town. Well, actually, I
grew up first in New Yorktown Heights, and then about
the time I was entering fifth grade, we moved to
the Brewster North Salem area. It was kind of confusing
for me, Lucy, because I lived I was like a
guy without a city.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
I lived in between.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
North Salem and Brewster in a little tiny town called
the town of Southeast. My mailing address was Brewster, but
I went to North Salem schools, so I didn't know
where I was from.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
They just called the town Southeast.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Yeah, they just called it the town.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
We've run out of names. Hardly anybody just called Southeast.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
And I grew up in a house that was built
in seventeen fifty three. Oh, my placton historical landmarks. So
that was the first introduction to history and being a descendant,
believe it or not, on my mother's side, I'm a
descendant of Paul Revere.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
And my son's middle name is Revere and one of
his daughters is Addison Revere.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Wow. So see, those are more things that I did see.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Things yet, But I've got to leave something for next time.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Right well, and something for book too, yeah, and something
to the book. So you grew up in New York,
in that area parts of New York, and you told
me a story once about a new shopping center that
was going in and that kind of when you were young.
So let's stay when you were a little bit younger.
Tell me that story again, because it's fascinating.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
It was kind of interesting. I befriended this classmate by
the name of Tommy Silverson, and he and I became
best of friends. In fact, we actually had an interest
in the same girl.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
In first grade, I had this I had this first
crush on this young lady and by the time we're
in third grade. We both liked her, so that got
to be interesting. But Tommy and I were very good friends,
and his dad was a developed real estate developer in
New York and they actually he developed the Roosevelt Field
shopping Center on Long Island, which, for those who might
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know the name or not that was named it was
named as the place or it was known as the
place where Lindbergh took off on his trip across the Pond.
So when they opened this shopping center, there's a huge
opening ceremony, and Tommy's dad invited us to go with
him to this grand opening and to celebrate it and
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to promote it. He actually arranged to have the replica
of the Spirit of Saint Louis flown in to be
on the field for the opening, and Tommy and I
are standing with him in front of the Spirit of
Saint Louis. I have an eight x ten black and
white print of it, and I look back on that
and say, wow, this was history being made at the time.
And at the time it was the largest shopping center
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in the world. Of course it's been surpassed since then,
but had its own police force, and we had Roosevelt
Field Shopping Center police badges on our coats, the original
mall cop.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Yeah, I was a mall cop. Yeah I did not.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
I did not picture you as the original mall I'm
one of the original mall copses. They were using scooters
than not segues.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Yes, that's right.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
So your life just went in so many different directions.
You started in the military. That's where you really kind
of got I came out. Well, what happened is I
went to school. I started my first year of college
in Waterville, Maine, at Colby, and I was really being
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young and not really figuring things out far out in
the future. I wasn't playing chess in my brain about
my life at the time. I wasn't making moves fourteen
moves down the chessboard. And I decided that because my
best one of my very good friends, who was also
the drummer in our jazz group that I played in
because I played trombone, he went to Colby and he
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was two years older, and I thought, well, that sounds
like a really good school. And at the time I
didn't realize how good a school.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
It was. Very good.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
It was actually only about fifteen percent less tuition than Yale. Oh,
and it's considered one of the ivys and it's ranked now,
I think, in one of the top fifty colleges in
the world. So it was very tough to get into.
And I got in, and you.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Just went because well, my friends thought it was cool.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yeah, and it was a very good school, but it
really didn't fit my psyche because I wanted to get
into my business degree more quickly and it.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Was very heavy in liberal arts.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
So after the first year I decided to transfer to
Pace University in New York. Unfortunately for me, that was
a bad decision during the Vietnam build up because this
was in the mid sixties, and they revoked my student
to ferment because because I was transferring and they couldn't
fill their draft quotas in Little Putnam County, New York,
where I lived, just across the border from Westchester, that
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had lots of people. So I wound up going in.
I thought I was going to be drafted, but my
uncle of career Army colonel, said, Bruce, don't take the
draft and list and try for one of the branches
where they'll actually use some of your knowledge. I couldn't
get in anywhere USI everyone was doing the same thing
I was.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
I thought, maybe you didn't have any knowledge.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yeah, I had pretty much. I had given up. I
had given up. And then I about nine days before
my reporting date for the draft, I got a call
from the Air Force recruiter who I had talked to,
and he said, I have a young man here who
doesn't want to spend Christmas in basic training. Because this
was in late November. And he said, if you want to,
and he said, I got the slough of his tongue
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which he was going to say the word slot and
I said done. And he said I didn't finish. I
said you were going to say slot, right, and he
said yes. He said okay, you want in. I said
I want in. He said you're in. And that's how
I got the Air Force. That's how I got to Omaha.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Oh well, Omaha is known for the Air Force. Yeah,
And I ask you guys here.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
And then I got the remarkable. I got to be
a trained television studio engineer. I could repair anything in
a TV studio up to and including the transmitter, and
of course that includes radio. So my natural inclination to
love radio was going forward and and here I am
in Omaha, Nebraska, and I wound up in the underground
command post with the highest clearance you can get in
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the US military. Wow, I had a top secret with
several designators showing how high my top secret clearance was.
I had battlestaff clearance, which meant I could be in
with the Joint chiefs if they planned World War three.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Oh, that takes me to a whole different a different direction.
What do you think about all of the not we
don't have to get into the dog suff but with
the federal employees having to.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Make go back to work, well, that's one of the
things I.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Have to do well to put into words or to
put into an email, the things of five things as
they've done, I'm completely screwing that up. I can't think
of the word.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
That they review or the evaluation of.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Their What do you think about that that they have
to come up with that performance? I mean a lot
of people do doesn't have to be you know what,
just the federal government. We're paying salaries for these people.
Why shouldn't they be reporting to us? I mean, it
doesn't matter which side.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Of the aisle you have right to attach yourself to.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I've often considered myself somewhat a conservative, but I've also
voted for liberals. I remember going and watching Bobby Kennedy,
the original, his uncle, the current Bobby, his uncle landing
at a field in Brewster, and a helicopter came in
and Bobby got out of that helicopter. And I was
somewhat of a Kennedy supporter at the time. I even
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though most of my family was voting Republican, I thought
he might be a good candidate. And so, you know,
it doesn't matter which sorr of the il you are on.
You look at how things are done. And I think
one of the things that people are talking about now,
a large majority of Americans are saying, we don't care
as long as the job gets done and it gets
done right.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
So that's what I was about.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
And I think along with that, if I had been
eighteen in nineteen sixty one, is that is that right
when Kennedy.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Well, sixty sixty two was when JFK got shot Well.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Right, so, but he had so he was voted in
in sixty sixty Okay, I knew it was right in there.
I think if I was eighteen in nineteen sixteen, I
am a conservative Republican. I don't think anybody's gonna be
surprised about that. But I think I probably would have
voted for John Kennedy at the time. So I get
what you're saying. Yeah, I don't think that the parties.
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I'm not going to say one of the other. I
don't think the parties are the same today no as
they were then.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
In fact, I have a good friend who's always says
he's a Democrat, but I tell him he's a Kennedy Democrat.
Because the Democrats of today are not the same as
they were, and the Republicans have moved too. There's a
right whole different spectrum.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
All right.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I'll save you enough of.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
The of the politics. But it's all about us.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
It really is citizens, the people that pay the taxes
and support this country and love the country. One thing
I will never for one thing. I have to share
with you one of the most memorable memorable things that
happened to me when I was in the Air Force,
when I was in basic training near the end, and
we were on the parade field for a mass inspection
and eight B fifty two's flew over the field at
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about five hundred feet and I got to tell you, Lucy,
I got goosebumps because, first of all, they are loud,
and they flew over and here I'm of course, this
is during the Vietnam War, and I'm thinking, my god,
look at that.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Those are airmen.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Our planes are bombers that are going to protect us
from whatever is going to come. And the feeling of
pride and patriotism I felt was incredible. Of course, being
a descendant of Paul Revere naturally, yeah, I mean I
was part of the original Tea Party, wasn't I, or
at least my family was.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
And I don't know if everybody knows this, but he
was a silversmith.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Yes he was.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
In fact, I went to my aunt Darlene's funeral. My
uncle and aunt lived in Valhalla most of their years,
and then when they retired, he was a broker on
Wall Street, and when he retired, they decided to move
out to Topeka, Kansas. Because she was from Hutchinson, Kansas,
so they decided to live moved to Topeka and be
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retire there near her family. So when I went to
the funeral when she passed away, my uncle came up
behind me and handed me this beautiful candlestick it was
a Revere candlestick that he had made, that Paul Revere had.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Made, and it was in the family.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
And when he handed it to me, again, goosebumps because
I was holding something that one of my ancestors made
and he was well known.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Of course.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah, I often joke I drink this is not a
plug for beer, but I drink Sam Adams because he
and Sam Adams were best friends.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I accept that.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Now I might have to go and drink Sam Adams
just because Paul Revere. PAULA is pretty cool, pretty cool guy,
I think. So you're in the service and you get
into audio and audio television engine television, right, So what
made you go down that path? Because you can't start tho.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
You know how they work it in the military. You
take aptitude tests and they tell you what you're best in.
And I scored very high in electronics and mathematics. The
other thing I scored very high in was linguistics, and
I at that time I had already taken Spanish, so
I spoke Espanol and they they wanted me to go
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into linguistics or electronics. And one of the things I
would have gotten if I with choosing that particular career
field was I would have been a flight simulator specialist.
I would have repaired flight simulators and I would have
been in Amarillo, Texas. But then they said, well, we
also we might want to use you in the broadcast
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area Air Force Radio and TV Service AFRTS. So I said, well,
that sounds interesting. And then a strange thing happened. I
wound up my tech school because I was going into
an area that the Air Force didn't have a tech
school for. I wound up at Fort Mammouth, New Jersey,
at an Army post. And my uncle, who is a
career Army colonel who was the commander of Military Airlift Command,
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was only down the road at the McGuire Air Force Base.
So he's an Army colonel at an Air Force base
and I'm an Air Force airman at an Army post.
And he come up and visit, and we'd walk around
the post and people snap too, and I'd say, that's
really cool. Unc he said, that's sir runk to you,
young man.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I love that. So you got into the audio or
the radio part of radio and TV, and so that
took you once you got out of the service.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Well, that was another story. I love photography and that's.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Oh my god, photography now.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
My big hobby.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
I in fact, I did wedding photography for a while
when I was in the service, but I had entered
several they were if you're familiar with extra chrome film,
ect chrome is a positive film, so slide film, okay.
And I had a large format camera. I had a
seiss Ica Flex twin lens reflex, and I was always
snapping photos. And of course in New England, which New
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York isn't technically New England, but I was right across
the border from Danbury, Connecticut, which isn't New England, and
we had the beautiful colors in the fall, and I
was going down my road, Feels Lane, that was named
after the early settler who was given the land grant
from the King of England, and it was named after him.
And we lived in the house that was his manor house.
And I mean something, yes, in the mid seventeen hundred,
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seventeen fifty three, and we're going I'm going down this
road and I look in my rear view mirror. It
was early morning and I see this fog setting in
over this hill that was the road sort of went
down this little hill. So I got out of my
car and I snapped this photo and I entered it
in the Inner Service Contest, which has like ten thousand entries. Oh,
and I get called to the colonel Air Force colonel's
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office one day while I was still at Fort Mommouth,
and I thought, oh my god, what did I do?
They're going to shoot me. I must have done something
to be called his office. And I go to his
office and I'm outside in this waiting area in this
beautiful mahogany like walls, and it's very intimidating. And his aid,
I remember she was a major and a female major
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in the Air Force, and she was the most intimidating
woman I think i'd.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Ever imagine at that time.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Yes, And she finally ushered me in to see the
colonel and I'm standing at attention and he says, well, relax, hairman,
stand at ease, yes, sir, And he said you don't
know why you're here, do you? And I said, no, Sir,
I don't. And he said you look nervous. I said, sir,
I'm very nervous. And he said, well, sit out, would
you like a cognac? I said, sir, I'm on duty.
He said, I'm a colonel. If I tell you can
have a cognak, you can have a cognac. So I did,
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and then he offered me a cigar and I said, Sarah,
I don't smoke. And he said, okay, well we'll pass
on that one then. And he said, but you're here
because you entered the first the Inner Service contest and
I said yes. He said, you placed second, third and
two honorable mentions. With your four entries, that's the highest
the Air Force had ever done at that time. He said,
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so I just want you to know. Anything you need,
just let me know and I'll try to make it happen.
So he said, where would you like to be after
you're stationed, after you finish your tech school? And I said, well,
I was looking at Plattsburgh, New York, where Griffith's Air
Force Base way. He said, can't do that. They're closing
that base in six months. But you never heard that
from me. It was still secret.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
It's not secret now.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
So I said okay, And he said where else? And
I said, well, I was sort of looking at SAC
headquarters in Omaha, Nebras in Bellevue, and he said I
might be able to do that sure enough because of
my photography hobby and entering that contest. He arranged for
me to get my station at off it and I
wound up in the command post.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
This is a great lesson, especially for young people listening,
that just do what you feel like you need to
do right at that moment. You saw something, you took
a picture, you jumped out, you took a picture you
didn't know was going to do anything for you. How
could you know it couldn't and you just I don't
think that, especially kids today, I don't think they take
the chances. Not that that was like a chancy thing,
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but they don't take what's right in front of them
and try to use it to the best of their
ability just because it's there. They don't take those chances anymore.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
You're so right, and it's all about just putting yourself
out there, never know what's going to happen. We were
talking about the Tommy Silverson story. Well, it just happened
that one of my classmates name was Mimi Lippy. In
fourth grade, me Memi Lippy, Clippy and Tommy lived right
down the hill from the Silversons, and we were visiting
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Mimi that day and her brother Jonathan was outside and
he came in. Well, Jonathan Lippy wound up being an actor,
and he wound up being in Countless gun Smokes. He
was the lawyer for Sue Ellen in the show Dallas.
But most people today would know him as the original
man they used in the World's Most Interesting Man for
(25:00):
the commercials for Doseki Spear. Not today, No, they replaced
him with another person. But there's a whole following on
YouTube of his commercials. Well, I met him when I
was nine years old, so I can legitimately say I
know the World's most Interesting man. And I talked to
him just a few years ago. I found him and
(25:21):
I phoned him. He lived at that time in New Hampshire. Unfortunately,
I was looking for Mimi and he said that Mimi
had passed away a few years prior. But he was
amazed that I found him. And so here's another story.
I know the World's most interesting man. And he was
a very famous actor. And he told me the whole
story of how he got the role because he was
a Jewish fellow from New York and he was going
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to be interviewing or reading the script against all these
young guys. In fact, his agent who became his wife
later got him the read and he went there and
he saw these young guys and Hispanic looking and some not.
But he thought, oh my gosh. Well, it happened that
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he and Fernando Lamos were good friends and he could
do a perfect Fernando Lamos accent because they were sailing buddies.
So he went in and read it like Fernando, and
that's how he came up with this. I don't often
I don't prefer beer, but I often drink dos ekis
when I drink beer. So anyway, he originally didn't get
(26:23):
the role. They called his agent, later to be his wife, Barbara,
and she said to them, well, what do you think?
And we loved him, but we think we need a
younger guy. And she said, how can the world's most
interesting man be a young guy? We'll get back to you,
and he got the.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Part, so they so she was so right, we do
need an older gentleman to be the most interesting man.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
But well he has to have done things right.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
But they but they were calling to tell her, no,
they weren't going to that's right, she taked. That's why
he married her.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
That's that could be. He never told me that's why. Woman.
She was very smart.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Yes, So you're right, it's if you don't put yourself
out there, you have no idea the way. I was
standing at the hight Regency Uaikiki in Honolulu and I
was watching it. They have an art dealer in the
main lobby area where the beautiful atrium is, and I'm
looking at this artwork. Well it was clowns and it
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was done by Red Skeleton and I'm looking and next
thing I know, I've got a hand on my shoulder.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
He said, do you like the work? And I turned around.
It was Red Skelton.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
And for our younger people who may not remember him,
it was a wonderful comedian.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Oh he was top of the yeah pile, and.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
I wound up talking to him for about twenty minutes.
I mean, these are the chants meet. Who knows who
you're going to bump into. I bumped into in the
hallway of that same hotel, the Victoria Principal from Dallas.
I met Tom Selleck over in Hawaii and wound up
meeting him several times and got into one of his
scenes by accident. So you just never know what things
are going to happen.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Yeah, just go and follow your I just.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Old Patrick, you know who has the radio business. He's
my advertising agency. Basically, I told him that I saw
that Pat Boone and a Margaret are going to be
at the Develement Center where we're doing our show. Well,
I flew with Pat Boone on a trip to Hawaii
back with my family back in the late late seventies
or early eighties, and got his autographed and talked to him.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
So here he's going to be an Omaha.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
You gotta go. You gotta go to the show. You
got to be there.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Yeah, I have to go say hello and say hey,
I haven't seen you in a few years.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Well, Bruce, this is the second time that we've talked,
and I know we're going to talk again. So we're
going to leave some of that stuff so we can
talk about it late.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
And some for the book for the book, so.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
When that book comes out. When that book comes out,
I get to be the first person you talked to.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
That's right, Okay, I have to hand you hand hand
hand you the autograph.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Copy, unless you unless there's somebody else that is even
more important than me that you would fill a book.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Nobody's I would fill a book you, Lucy.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Let's talk about the Bridle Fair before I let you go.
The Bridle Fair is going on this weekend, Saturday, March first,
depending on when you're listening to this podcast, March Verse
twenty twenty five, ten am to one thirty at the
relevant center Bridlefair dot com, Get online, get registered. Bruce,
what else do we need to know?
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Well, I think you mentioned you'd like to talk a
little bit about trends in weddings, and uh.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
I got so wrapped up and everything you were.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Doing and I do the same thing completely.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
My wife always says, you're so shy, Bruce. You just don't.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
You just have to let yourself get out there a
little bit. So one of the things I did before
we knew we were going to be doing this podcast
was I was looking into some of the most recent
wedding trends and there's a couple of them that are interesting.
One is party buses are big now and I'm not
going to let anyone know until now. Oh I haven't
(29:58):
let anyone. I should say, breaking news live and direct,
but we are going to be giving away at our
show or before the show to the first twenty five
registrants after this AIRRS. We're gonna be giving away a
five hundred dollars voucher for a party bus from our
premier party Buses person at the show Wow, and that
(30:21):
hasn't been announced anywhere. This is this is an exclusive
for Lucy.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
So if you're listening to this, to the Lucy and
Brucey Show, you Lucian Brucey Show. If you're listening to this,
you have very very secretive information, so use that information.
What do they have to do?
Speaker 2 (30:37):
All they have to do is register, be the next
the first twenty five that register after this, and we're
going to draw from those twenty five to draw the winner.
So your chances are exit one and twenty five. That's yeah,
which in any kind of drawing, that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
And we're talking also about the fact that in town
weddings are returning. You know, there was a big trend
away to destiny fascination. Well now the big thing And
by the way, I owe this credit to the not I.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Was looking on the Knots research.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
They've just come out with a new research study and
that's one of the things they've talked about is that
in town. Weddings are returning, and destinations are tailing off
a little bit. And personalizing the ceremony. That's another thing
that more and more couples are doing. They're personalizing the invitations,
they're personalizing the types of things at the wedding. They're
doing non alcohol bars as well as the alcohol bar,
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so you can do faux drinks and suit a wider
array of people. And mini weddings, mini weddings for the
for the not necessarily just for the smaller budget, for
the people who want to have a more intimate affair.
They're doing many weddings now, so you still use some
of the same types of vendors, but it's a little
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more of an exclusive type of gathering.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
That is something I had not heard of it all,
I haven't. I hadn't heard about the home state weddings
are coming back many weddings. So would this more would
this be more appealing to a second or a third marriage?
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Not necessarily? This is first time weddings, okay, so you
know people want to have something unique. I mean, this
is the most The sociology side of me is coming
out now and saying that this is a right of
passage and that's a that's a term that you've often
heard if you've ever read anything about sociology. So this
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right of passage is a very important one.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
It used to be I used to.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Talk about young women when they were growing up. They always,
you know, used to have hope chests and they plan
for this very important event.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Well, you know, there are a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
I can remember going to a radio station that was
doing our show years ago in Colorado, and the receptionist
there was saying, you're the bridal fair guy, right, And
I was sitting out in the lobby waiting for them
to come out, and we were going to go make
some calls on some vendors, and I said, yeah, I'm
the bridlefair guy.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
She said, well, I just.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Don't believe in marriage. She said, it's just to me,
it's a waste of time.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
And I said, oh, that's too bad.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
And I felt sorry for well, about three months later,
I was back at the station, sitting in the lobby
waiting for them to come take me out on some calls,
and she came up to me and dangled her left
hand in front of me with this diamond ring on it,
and I said, what aren't you the girl that said
you didn't believe in weddings, She said, well that was
before I met Bob.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Oh my goodness, isn't that exactly right? Because you do
you think you've got women that are never going to never.
I think the first thing that you need to know
is to never in your head say never.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
That's right, never say never.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Oh, you talked about personalizing weddings. What do you mean
by personalized personalizing?
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Like instead of the age old type of invitation that
went out. I just got an announcement card from one
of my great niece who lives in Saint Louis, and
she's announcing her wedding and it's a save the date
card and the saved of the date card says a
formal imitation will follow. Well that was that's more of
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a more recent trend that I haven't seen that.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Yeah, that you're right, that is new within the last
four or five years.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Yeah, it's pretty more current. Yeah, and of course they're
the design of it was her, I mean it, you're right,
it reflected her taste.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
And now that you say that, because I got one
from my niece and it was a picture of her
and the it was like the blown up. The card
was a picture of them, which was very cool. So
that is very personalized. I was thinking about some of
the ceremonies that in the mini weddings because that just
brings up all these things in my head. An intimate
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maybe candle light, I can see that.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Yeah, they're doing candle light.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
They're doing all sorts of different things that well, I
mentioned the non alcoholic bar, right and then the also
the Alternative Food Fair. Oh so well, well that's just
health food, healthy foods instead of just the because they're
I mean, it adds to the cost a bit, of course,
but it satisfies a greater array of tastes. So they're
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offering that for the health conscious people that don't want
to have the nine and eighty seven calories in that
particular serving, and then it gives them a healthy alternative.
And they're offering those at wedding receptions.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
So and you can kind of see some of these
things at the Bridle Fair, some of those personalizing some
of the many wedding You can take the vendors that
you're going to see at Bridle Fair and create your wedding,
whether you want it to be a home state or
a mini wedding or a personalized wedding. They can do it.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Yeah, these are people that want to help you have
your perfect day. There is no such thing as a
perfect wedding day, which is what makes it perfect because
that makes it unique because every waydding day is going
to be just a little different. And even though even
if you hire a wedding planner, which a lot of brides,
that's another trend. More and more rides are using or
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couples are using wedding planners. And when I say couples,
I think back to the old Father of the Bride
movie when Martin Short comes up to Steve Martin says, you.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
Need more traxaos, more taxados.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
And I think the budget was supposedly going to be
fifty thousand dollars and it went to a quarter of
a million. Now, not everyone's going to have a quarter
of a million dollar wedding, but it just shows how
quickly things can get out of control, a going crazy. Well,
it's that important day. It's this right of passage that
causes this focus. And some of these couples are saying,
wait a minute, and I hate to say this, my
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vendors won't be happy, but some of them are saying, well,
we're not going to do a big wedding at all.
We're just going to have a little quick ceremony and
we're going to put the money into a house or
we're going to put it into things we need. And
that's that's their own choice, and that's what it's all about.
Making it your wedding.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
And you can get plans or whatever wedding it is.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Yes, whatever you want for the grandiose all the way
down to the very intimate, little simple ceremony.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Patio patio wedding. Yes, I love that too. Bruce theboth
Bridlefair dot com. That's where you need to be and
get more information. Get registered for the Bridle Fair going
on this weekend, Saturday, March first, ten am to thirty.
We're going to be out there on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
Yes you are. You're going.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
We're gonna do the Lucy and Bruce Show live, live
and direct from the Relevant Center in Elcorn.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
It's always it is.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
My favorite time of year and I'm not getting married.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
I had to use it anyway.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
I had to use my air voice because you know,
you may remember I owned a couple of radio stations
in Yeah, so I've done that too, and.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
When you come back, and you will. When you come back,
we're going to talk about that. Would you get that
book written?
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Yes, And maybe if I do something spectacular, maybe all
kids to be in the book. Wow, I got to
meet Lucy Chapman.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
You definitely will be in the book.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
You're your editor will say, Bruce, we need to cut something.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
We didn't know we were doing. War in peace right.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Thank you so much for being here on Here's More
and kg O R and always such a great, great
pleasure
Speaker 3 (38:18):
I always enjoy, Lucy, Thanks for having me