March 1, 2025 • 46 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Creative Construction of Wisconsin home improvement show
on Fox Sports nine to twenty in your iHeartRadio app
coming live from the Donovant and Jorginson Heating and Cooling Studios.
It's cold again, man, you gotta make sure that furnace
is working well.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
It's Yeah, it's pretty deceiving it because like yesterday, no
normal was yesterday. My phone is just ringing like crazy. Hey,
it's warm out. You can come and do my house.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Yeah, let's go.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hey, we just wait. It won't be calling today.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
They will not be calling today, that's for sure. Any
issues you have, if you want to get your conditioner
ready to go, go to Donovan Jorginson dot com. My
name is Mike McGivern alongside Bingo Emmons. He's the owner
of Creative Construction Wisconsin. It's just you and I. It
looks like today.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know what happened to Jason.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Jason JJ contractors who were If you're on your way,
send me a text.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
I had a big tribute. I was gonna say about
the nice things about him because you know, you know,
my whole dad's funeral and everything. He was a big
part of it, but well because he doesn't get to
hear it.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
He doesn't get to hear it, and uh, look he's uh,
he's a busy, busy man. JJ Contractors LLC, JJ Custom Home.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I just want to hear Juliet. I want her on
what I was trying to get on.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Yeah, the I wanted to talk about the restaurant a
little bit. But we will get Jason back in studio
here in a few weeks or a couple of months,
and uh, just check in with him. How are things
that Creative Construction Wisconsin busy?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Huh, We're really busy. And it's when I talk to
some people say it's kind of slow and do some stuff.
Our guys are getting more overtime right now than you
do in August. Really just the cold, the heat and
the covering and ever. We just people still don't want
need stuff done. Yeah, I mean, and I'm sure that
when you had Aaron in the studio, he told you
about his big job and.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Madison Madison and talk about he was so proud of
the work you guys were doing there. And he said,
you know that I'll come back and forth. And it
depends if Shelby says Dad when you coming home. I
get into the car and I go home.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yeah. Well, yeah, yesterday Sam and you know Sam and
Shelby are sick. Oh yeah, he bailed on them early yesterday.
He's at home and he's got to take care of
everything because their house is not just an easy house
that take care. They gotta do chores. They got horses,
they got geese, I know, they got all kinds of stuff.
So so Aaron had a quick work to go to work.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
You know, I was at their house for a surprise
party for dev and it was it was really cool.
It's an old farmhouse, been around forever and they've done
so much with the barn. And and look, I I'm
afraid of horses. Man, I got thrown twice. I am not.
But you get out, you go to their house and
(02:36):
watch the horses run in the back. And like you said,
they talking to Aaron, he said, you know, I get
done with work and then I've got chores. There's a
lot to do over here. And man, they don't mind.
Both Aaron and Sam are not afraid to work up.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
They've got their own thing. So you know, they're on
a full farm thing. I mean, they're bailing their own hey,
right during their own stuff, right, you know, plus you know,
plus you know work in construction too.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Oh man, Well hopefully, sam Mi, shall we feel better
this weekend?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah? I hope you too. Yeah. We're supposed to Aaron's
birthday party on Sonny, but I don't want to go
there and catch something.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
No, don't Yeah, good, zoom just go. Look I'll be
there via via zoom. Hey, this time of year, as
it's starting to get a little bit warmer, and you said,
look it was warm, and my phone was just blowing up.
Everybody who has been waiting for you guys to come
and be able to do outdoor work is now thinking, Okay,
I'm first in line. Let's go. How busy are you?
(03:29):
You guys booked throughout.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
The The worst part about this is, you know, it's
hard to say this. I'll be honest. We have very
little openings for this summer. I mean, that's how far
be for our calling, isn't it. And I understand why
they're calling. They want to make sure we get their
house done right, you know, because I'm looking at their
house and you know, in November, And he said, when
can we When do you think we can do it?
(03:50):
We'll schedule to fight August. Really that far out? Yes,
I mean what we do is respect. We just don't
hire anybody. You can't just hire anybody to do what
we do really good at what we do. Takes a
lot of training, and you know, most of the time
people are one of our family members doing it.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Is the majority of the work that you do starting
spring and going through summer outdoor? Is it all stucco?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Well, most of it's all doors. Well, we get a
lot of rain, you know, you know, we got we
got rain. You know, a lot of our guys are
working outside. I mean, you know, airing those guys. Those
guys have been outside all winter. How Cola was, Yeah,
tents outside, we got heaters, tense and we can accommodate
for it.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
But water damage stucco, plaster? What what is this time year?
As spring starts to come, what are most people asking
you to come out and do?
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Well? Right now, a lot of people are calling up
about the plaster and work because they say, hey, you
know you said you catch my because I say, I'll
give you a deal if you wait the winter. Yeah,
well winter's almost over and here yet. Yeah, I don't
want to get stuck in summer, but we take care
of them.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
You know, well then you know I got I looked
at Holy Hill like last last summer, right, and I said, okay,
I'll catch you guys. I'll catch you guys in in uh,
you know, in January or February when it's colder, right, right,
And so that's great because you know, as many weddings
and stuff. Now, I'll say, you know, last week is
like he was calm. Hey, it's almost the end of February,
(05:08):
can you guys? So Zach went up there and stuff.
You know, it isn't to them. It's just fun to
work there because you get to look out all the
towers and stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Right, How how big of a job? Like when you
do something and you say Holy Hill. You know, I've
been there for a number of things, a couple of things.
I was there at a funeral not too long ago,
and it's beautiful. But when you talk about doing something
at Holy Hill, tell me about the kind of job
they needed, you.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Need a job or just like you wanted to as
you know that Zach just went to church every day
this last week, okay, because yeah, because we're working, we're
doing the bridal suite and we're doing like outside the
entrance and stuff of the church. So they have masks
every day from eleven to twelve, and they don't want us, right,
we can't be like plastering and doing stuff while we're
doing that. So that's so we so we take off there.
But it's it's the kind of stuff we do, is
(05:55):
we do stuff that people see. So that's why they
want them really good. It was just like a closet
or something nobody cares, but right there's something where everybody,
you know, thousands of people look at it every all
the time. Then they want us to be there because
they want to When we get done, it looks like
it looks original now brand new, it looks original.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Yeah, so you're restoring not repairing. Yeah, yeah, I like
that with a place like like Holy Hill. Do they
have three or four different things that they want done?
Is it one job?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah, we're doing We're doing stuff in phases, right, you know,
because your money is a part of a part of it. Right,
So we're doing some stuff and then outside the elevator shafts,
we're scheduling that. We're just going to schedule that for
next year. I think okay, because they're just like, hey
know what, what can we they want to do something else?
Do you want to skip this project and do this prectic?
There's all money, got a allocated? So you know, I mean,
and you know, especially with churches we work out stuff
with them. Is that it's right? You know, we'll do
(06:44):
this section now just basically or whatever.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Hey, then why would toast a project that we had
talked about a number of months ago? The coffee shop?
Is that done now? Uh?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
No? I think Zach's Zach City. They're waiting for the drywalls.
They had to get the last people of drywall in
or something. And it's like one window we got touched up,
but it's because because he didn't put the window in,
because that's how I get the dry well in. But
I was yeah, once once we get the call to
fix that, and then he got to be done. Yeah,
it looks like it's done. I don't think so. No,
(07:14):
it's getting there if it is open the invice or open,
and I'll be mad because yeah, because that was the
owner that specifically requested us that we do it. It
wasn't the contractor. You know, contractors don't always like to
hire us because we're kind of expensive, but the owner
wanted us to do it no matter what.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Hey, so we we haven't had a chance for I
think a year and a half to just kind of
talk a little bit about Creative Construction Wisconsin. And for
people that have started to listen to the show that
that hear us talk to the name of the company
a lot, but don't understand the background, the history. Can
we spend the next couple of minutes in segment wanted
(07:50):
to talk a little bit about Creative Construction Wisconsin. You
guys been around six generations.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Now my kids are the sixth generation.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Yeah, Sam and Zach cool take over the company one
day will be six generation. When when you tell people that,
and when I tell people that, I get a lot
of like, whoa really? So they've been around that long?
And if they go to the website and see a
picture of you know this, this group of at a
(08:18):
wedding and it's all of these people and it's like, look,
this is I don't know when the picture was taken,
but the gentleman that I'm looking at right here, sixth
generation with the beard. This is when this whole thing started.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah, well, the little baby ban lapter. That's actually my
grandpa really yeah, a baby and laptor and it's his
dad and Pops and you back. And then my grandpa,
my grandpa's always I never met Pops, but my Grandpa's
to talk about him, you know a lot. And then yeah,
then my grandpa was I actually learned not a busser
for my grandpa. He's really really good. Not the rip
on my dad or anything.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
But yeah, yeah, well I talked to Zach and your
and Zach says, my grandfather taught me because my dad,
you know, we I don't know if I had the
patience for him, but my grandfather the patients for me,
and you know, it kind of is the way this
thing works. If my grandfather, I never met my dad's dad,
and he was the barrickler in a Mason that didn't
(09:12):
have the patients to teach his kids. But I've got
a feeling that if his you know, if his dad
was wrong and that's where he learned it from, he
would have had the patients to teach his grandkids.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, we'll see, you know, and we'll see what a
generation's goal. Right now, only seventh generation we have with it.
Shelby Shelby run. I'll see how she see where this goes,
and maybe.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I'll have that conversation with young Zach.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
We need need to get it.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Let's go. There's a couple of steps we got to
get to before we get there. But how was his
house going?
Speaker 2 (09:41):
By the way he moved in?
Speaker 1 (09:43):
He did.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
He moved in, and for three weeks in a row
he's telling me about I'm gonna get my fireplace done.
And then yesterday he was telling me. He said, I said, Zach,
so what are you doing this weekend? He goes, I'm
working my fireplace and that's I said. Look, three weeks
a roll, right he's talking to He says, but I
might have to go golf, And I was on, he
might have to go golfing, might have to, Yeah, you
might have to. I don't think it's me that it's
easy to say that on Friday when I yeah, not today.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Unless you head over to that place by the airport
where look you can get inside and and the heaters
are you're hitting it out of the driving range and
stuff like that. So I don't know if Zach's been there.
Last time I talked to he hadn't. So I gotta
I gotta get him over there. Hey, when when we
talked a little bit about the greenhouse growth project and
where I'm going with this is, he said, look, we're busy.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Did you ever find out who won that?
Speaker 1 (10:30):
I did? Yeah, we uh confetti last year last week
in the studio here witnet have won that thing. But
that's the reason when you talk about trying to get
kids into the trades and how you are hiring, it's
when you look at your your calendar and your schedule.
It's you guys are booked through through probably fall.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
At this point.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
If we didn't get another crew together, we don't down.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
We don't slow down. And I've been doing a lot
of work with the Narry Madison chapter yep and uh.
And there's also home Inspectors out there in Madison and
they just say, hey, you know it's time for you guys.
They get a branch out here. So we like to
do that and we're trying to work on it. But
it's you know, I can keep the family values. We'd
want to just hire some sub correct Yeah, because that's
that doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
No, not with the reputation that you guys have.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
We got up to talk to someone all right, who
wants to move to Madison, right, yeah, because Aaron doesn't
mind driving back and forth out there.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
No, he saidied it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
And then Debbie is always a winner of that because
she likes those elephant ear things, right, you know from
that from that one famous.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
And and Aaron will do that one. Yeah yeah right
in bribes right in uh in Johnson Creek, right.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah, yeah. If I forget the name of that place,
but they got those big elephant ears.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
It is, uh, let me think my my daughter and
son in law. Well he wouldn't my cima At the time,
they both went to Maranatha Baptist Bible College and they
were a waiter and waitress in not only that place,
but then the the restaurant across Highway, Harry's something like
that right across the street. But that I've I've had
(12:02):
a few of those over the years. And that's pretty
nice that Aaron will stop there and drive up something.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
He does know. I got you a present, deb I
hate it when you buy those things. Well you don't
have to eat them, no, no, no, oh, they're gone though, Yeah,
deb I'll give you give it to the geese. No, no,
I'll eat it.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Hey, Aaron. It was fun having him in a couple
of weeks ago. And he said, look, when when we
moved here and I got a chance to be part
of this this uh, this company. I knew I was
walking into a family owned company. What I didn't realize
is just the tradition and and you know the reputation
of Creative Construction Wisconsin. I had to up my game
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to make sure that I was strong enough to be
part of this team. And and he said, look at
you know it. It It is a family owned company
and a family run company, but the people that work
here kind of feel like we're all part of that family.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Yeah. Another guy too, I remember Darren Fisher. Yeah, he's
been on a radio a couple of times. Yeah. Well
he's he's teaching a class and I volunteered. You know, Aaron,
it's act to Goal. But Aaron went anyways, so he's
been like this right, and that's what he's telling me.
He says, Hell. Daron's like, so, I said, hell is
Aaron doing? He says, Man, you know he's so he's
so focused on trying to keep the legacy going. I
mean he's just that's what him. He said, That's all
(13:15):
he was talking about, I want to do everything can
and keep his legacy going.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Well. Good for him because he understands the history behind it,
which I think is really I mean, it really is important.
I love the fact that you know, he when you
have somebody that comes in from the outside, even though
you know they Mary Sam and she could be telling
him all about this company. Man, he is fully invested
in it. And when he's talking about especially look when
(13:41):
he talked about that job at Madison, he lit up
like a Christmas tree. He said, Look, we're doing really
good work for them, and they they've wanted us to
come and do this and for us to be as
good as we are. It's a good match. Even though
it's it's in Madison, but they you know, they're paying
us a little bit extra to have to come invest.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
We work out there all the time, you know, we do,
you know, buy four or five jobs just last summer
alone out there because we said, you know, it's in
costal moret because you got to pay for the travel time,
you know, and then you know they're doing it because
you don't really have much of a choice if you
want that kind of work.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Hey, So a question that we got text and now
that we can spend an hour talking creative construction Wisconsin.
Can you apply stucco over brick?
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Hard to do? Can you do it on your own?
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Actually been doing it for a thousand, you know, one
hundred years. A brick's been around, right, a long. Brick's
been wrong to be applying dirt and mud over bricks.
It's not like it's not a new science. You know,
you ever hear you know I'm trying. They get German shmaring,
and you always see that. You always like, do they
paint bricks parsh ways and stuff like that on TV
and stuff? But real German smearing is nothing more than
(14:48):
lime cement and sand, right. And there was a way
of tuck pointing the bricks because remember when you tuck
point a brick, you want to make us you have
to uh, when you do bricks, you want to make
us at the mortar joints wrought out before the bricks
so they don't break the bricks. That's why the mortar
is always real soft.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Back then it was type of you know, visual lime cement,
you know, you know, Portland smith was didn't really come
around in the nineteen twenties. Around here, you know. So anyways,
uh so what you always would you see those old houses,
Like we had someone that buy a house, one of
those people that put the pen big pans or something,
and they bought a house in a lake and I said,
(15:25):
did you bought a bill brand new house? You want
a German shmier to make it like it's five hundred
years old. So we do is we actually take lime
smith that we smeared, you rub it out. What that
German shmer is really you're doing is they're trying to
rub in the mortar back into the joints okay, and
it just looks it's sloppily done. And that's the desk
the real German shmmere. When people sad about bricks, that
stuff stays on forever. Then you ever see we have
people that will that will stuck over bricks and then
(15:47):
you want to expose a little bit of bricks and
make it look like it's a natural. And I said,
we do it in people's houses. Now they want they
put up bricks and he wants to make look stuck
or plaster fall off the brick.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Well, the the artists that we had in who wanted
the ceiling and the client wanted the ceiling to look
like something came through the ceiling, and I, uh, I
just laughed, like wouldn't that for me? Would be not
anything I'd ever think of. And this woman said, this
is exactly what what my client wanted. And the only person,
(16:20):
the only people I could find that could do it
correctly was Creative Construction in Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Right, because we had people do it. We people do that,
especially in their basements and stuff and other things. They
want to make it look like like it's old, like
something like plasters falling off the wall, right, you know,
and they do that, and you know, and it's and
you have to do that. So what we do is
we actually take it. You know. All we do is,
you know, we actually take it and then we pull
it off to make it look like it just fell off.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Hey what about color? If if somebody is looking, do
do stucco coming different color or is that something you
guys have to add?
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Well, yeah, it comes on white or gray. Basically, original
stucca was always like a white because the type of
slime cement it was always white. And that's why you
see so much white old stuff is white. It's that
kind of tannish white because they had Mason sand, you know,
Bay Safety of sand from Lake Michigan right at the time.
And that's why I was always kind of get tannish.
And then Portland came along, which is grayer, and Portland's
(17:14):
named after you know, that's the color Portland named after
the rock.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
But can you add like a tint to again.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
That's what we do. It's a lot of stuff. We we
have tints just iron ore oxides, right, you know, stuff
that lasts for a long time. You know. That's why
you see a lot of you see stuckhos. You know,
they have a certain color. You can get the greens,
you get reds on them. They're not real deep pastels,
but they can get it pretty dark looking.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Hey do you how much are you out in.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
That coffee shop? That's tinted stuff? I mean that was
that's tinted stucco. Okay, you know you have to you
know how many you know, precise, you got to be
the very fast, perfectly right, I mean, because you can't
mix it. You know, you're mixing up hundreds of batches.
And if you just tea spoon in the wrong direction
and it'll stick out and that's what you see, like
when you're on in Florida and you see nothing in
our matches, right, because they just don't want to measure it.
They just like, oh that looks good.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Yeah, it's it's close. Hey, you personally, do you miss
being out on doing the I mean, I'm sure you
still are out of the job and you're working, but
not like it used to be. Crasy.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I don't like being on a you know, seven rings
high and a chimney or a dormer story dormer, you
know their typical east side anything east side where you know,
everything is right really super high and you can you know,
if you put up a ladder, you can't put it up.
It's got to be almost straight up because there's no
room with two houses.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Hey, with the and I don't mean to bring up
any bad, bad memories, but with with the you know
you had had an accident. Does that did you think
about that at all?
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Is that the reason you don't want to go up
and do that?
Speaker 2 (18:42):
No? No, no, no, that one like this, right? I
know actually before they actually fell off two story dormer, okay, right,
I was just I was working on a dormer, right,
and then I just went, I stepped. Whare I should't
have step? Next? I know I'm signing on a gutter
and local the gutter has me. Wham the gutter and
me went. Both went down so like it. I was
laughing beside the guy I was working with. He came
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down the ladder, He's like, yeah, right right, and I says,
oh this, I better go up and finish right now
because I'm gonna be so I'm not gonna be able
to move in a couple of minutes here, so let's
hurry up. So I went and did it. I was
sorry when I was all right, yeah, but the other
one I was only I was fifteen feet three inches
when I just shattered my arm or my brains and everything.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
How long did it take you to get.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
And that wasn't on a job, by the way, It wasn't.
That wasn't no, no, that's not my first three porch.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Yeah, I bet I've got a feeling deb after you
felt better, yelled at.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
You for doing it, screwed all the window shut everything.
I wasn't allowed to go outside.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Well you know what that you know why? Because she
loves her some bingo image. I can tell you that guys,
So let's get to break a number of questions. For
the first time in a long time on this show,
We're gonna be able to talk more about Creative Construction
of Wisconsin. And we'll have Jason from JJ Contractors and
JJ Custom Homes in in a couple of months to
(19:58):
catch up with him. And I know that you you
had some really nice things to say about him. He's
gonna have to wait till he comes to st Gonna happen,
not gonna happen. We're gonna get to a break. Other
side of the break, ill continue to talk with Bingo
m as the owner of Creative Construction of Wisconsin. This
is the Creative Construction Wisconsin Home Improvement Shaw on Fox
Sports nine twenty in Your iHeart Radio App. Come back
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to the Creative Construction of Wisconsin Home Improvement Shaw on
Fox Sports nine twenty in Your iHeartRadio app. Coming live
from the Donovan and Jorganson Heating and Cooling Studios, largest
employee owned HVAC company in the state of Wisconsin. I'm
Mike McGivern alongside he's my co host, but now he's
kind of my special guest. I guess this week he
is Bingo, Emmon's owner of Creative Construction of Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
I'm special Spencer here.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Well, we can discuss the definition of special during the
next break. How's that We can certainly go ahead and
do that. Hey, a couple of quick questions for you,
and again we we what happens on this show is
we ad Jason from JJ Contractors and stuff that came
up I think for him, And so we get a
(21:08):
chance to talk about some of the things that Creative
Construction Wisconsin does and I'll start getting text messages I
did this morning. I had a couple of people wanting
to me to ask Jason some roofing questions. So we're
going to pass on that question for you. Regarding stucco,
is there a difference between acrylic stucco and traditional stucco?
Speaker 2 (21:28):
And I think with a crilic they're talking about eaves,
that's that stuff. But you know it's basically acrylic paint
and and stone chips mixed together as a finished coding
and the eaves and so yeah, there's a difference. It
was actually designed to be a cheaper insulated type product,
but it turned out that's not what they thought it
was going to be. And we're just as guilty as
other people. Back in the late eighties, and you know,
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back in the eighties, you know, even late seventies, we
started doing that whole you know things most people know
what it's called, drive it, you know, or stole you know,
this kind of things. We thought we had that's a
really great product. The problem was is that trap's moisture.
That was something that they didn't figure out. So that's
why down in Arizona it's great, right well, it have
a moisterre problem down there.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
And the question if you are doing stuck a work here,
would would it be the same type of work if
you lived in someplace.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
We want to if you ask us that, you call
us up and you send me a plans to do
drive it, we will not do it. We just won't
not do it.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
You won't.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
I won't do it. Because within ten fifteen years later
they got it. They got some major repairs on her hand. Well,
and I look at these things right now, they're twenty
years old, thirty years old, and they're like, hey, can
you come over, and you're like, you know, you know,
they want to go on and touch up cock and
paint it or something like, man, I don't know all
these things there. It didn't. It didn't last years that
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we thought it was going to last. It's one of
those things that kind of wish was never invented, because
I may he gave plastering a bad name. Okay, the
whole stucco industry a bad name because nobody wants to
stuck a home now because that's got your reputation to
drive it.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Hey, stucco, We've had this conversation a number of years ago.
But when we talk about, yeah, the idea, why does
stucco crack? And a quote that I saw online this morning,
there are two types of stucco homes. Yeah, one that
is cracked and one that's going to crack.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Yeah. Actually we say that it's actually that's actually from
a concrete world to the same thing people say it
is a driveway. What's the difference between, you know, two keeps,
you know, one driveway that has a crack and one
that's going to crack. Because that's what it is. It's
going to crack eventually. And that's again and home inspectors
and they're great because you know, but they don't know.
So I'll go there and look at it and say
it's just I go, it's just a crack, right, And
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that said, what is it just makes your own control joint. Now,
if you look at buildings when you do a stucco,
they got control joints up all over stuff. They got
lines cut into them. They have different designs. Even in
uh the eaves you know, still and drive at homes,
I always got the horizontal lines. Now they got to
see colck joints because they found out that they can't
just do what they're doing because it's going to crack.
And homeowners get upset when you see that crack.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
But it's just natural, right, it's natural setting to the
building and the seasonal changes hearing.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
It's like it's like people, you know, they get you
see any highway right, they cracked, right. It isn't like
it's like, oh you know, I mean because they get people,
so I get the really special cement. No, there's no,
there's nothing, there's nothing special. It's it's it's got to shrinking,
you know, and expand and a lot of the problems
that the problem what gave the epic or the crylic
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stuck is such a bad name is it was just
installed wrong. And it's still installed wrong even today. That's
what I do, is I do EEF's inspections. You know,
me and David Ason are two of you know, EEFs
inspectors around this area, and we look at all the
time and it's the first thing we do is you know,
without even going to the job, we know that it
will probably be done wrong. And it's just it's a
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shame because they can't afford to do it right. They
don't want, you know, trying to be trying to get
the houses prices down to do things and gets cut
in corners. They're trying to find ways to save stuff right,
just simple, I mean. And that's why I do, is
I go anytime you see eaves and like an LP
smart any kind of siding, brick, masonry, anything, anytime I
brace masonry or anything plaster or stuck, always has to
have a rope and clock joint between a joints adjacent
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surfaces right right. And they don't do it. They'll just
like smet right up to the window frame and then
it you know, and twenty years later you got to
replace the windows because and the wood rotted out. And
it was only because they could have just done it
right the first time. We wouldn't have that issue.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Yeah, and they went on. They were looking to make
a little bit more money. I would think, is do
you often have people come that that buy a home
that's stuck go and decide they don't want stucco anymore?
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Well, sometimes they asked, they just we just look at
houses and I got, you know, some things that I'm
in lawsuits with people they were just done wrong. And
I'm just like, you know, if you got to recite
it anyways, if you just don't want stuck, or you
don't have to. It's not like stucker is gonna be
done cheaper.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Right, So is it hard to take stucco down?
Speaker 2 (26:03):
No, No, it's it's just a dembal process. So it's
especially the stuck what they're talking about. That's you know,
the styrofoam stuck over that just that's nothing.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
If if somebody is building a new home and they
they they if they come to you and say, look,
it's stucco a good choice for my home.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
What you know where you know, we still do new homes,
but they're conventional stucko only, right, you know, certain slut
customers and stuff. You know, Yeah, the actually people that
actually build homes when they build their own home, they
they'll want real conventions. Did you want stuck wan? He says,
I build my own home. I can't have my house correct.
I can't have my house looking bad. Yeah. I need
you guys to do it right, I mean yeah? So
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yeah we still do it.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Did do you when for the product that you use,
it's not something you go to home depot to get correct?
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Yeah, you could buy what you could buy from home depot,
especially like you know, you go on Texas, they sell
type oh right on the shelf. They they don't sell here,
No here, We got to go get it from a colony.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Hey, we had talked about some stuff that that Terry
and I are thinking about doing, and and some folding
doors that we have in our house if I want,
if I the reason we want to change these out
is when when the person who flipped the condo that
we bought, they did a lot of things really top notch.
A couple of things they went cheap on and one
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were these folding doors. So we want to be able
to get to have a higher quality a couple of
doors in our condo. Is there someplace other than a
minority or home people that we should go to look
for the top quality.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Ye, there's a lot of places. I mean, you know
you got everything from. I don't know, well molcking Milwork
anymore because I really just don't go there anymore because
that was back when my friends with Greg was there.
Yeah yeah, I mean but Blifford is you know Kristin
and Morgan Yard. I have a problem like that. I
go talk to him. Okay, if he doesn't have it,
he will tell me who to get it from. Okay,
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he's a really great guy.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Good. Well, that's a really good good idea because I've
we've walked through minards tearing, and we walked I think
through home depot and we looked and I don't know
if the quality of the folding doors, I think that's
probably where they bought those from, and they're just not
you know what. The whole place we love, right, the ceilings,
everything that the fireplace to the things that she did
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correct and and and top notch. But then a couple
of different areas she went a little bit cheap on
and and it's been bugging me for two years. And
so we're going to try to get but I'm just
not sure. I guess Blifford Lumber would be the place
to go.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Yeah, well because they just you got people out there,
just the quality and Blifford is quality. They're actually having
a semimar on Friday. If you get nothing to do
all day?
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Are they doing anything on folding doors? Because maybe I'm
not doing it myself.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
So that's the thing that's contractors go to just because
we get credits for it.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
There you go, you really should. Hey, when somebody has
stucco and they want so they want to paint after
you guys are done, how long did they need to wait?
Speaker 2 (29:05):
In the old days, you had to wait a year
for the you know for the piata change. But now
what these primers that we got you can just do
right away. So that's what we do stock about. And
that's why we always say all the time when we
do it, it's always like prime in paint. It was
like I talked to my paint and needing to primate
and I know, look at the rest of your house
and tell me why.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Do you guys do the paint too or do that?
Does the homeowner to find somebody to do after you
guys get done?
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Did they mostly your pairs? We prefer to our own
painting because when we get done, you can't see the patch.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Right.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
You got a guy who goes out there and I
want to rip on some brands out there. But they
put it on there and then a year later it
sticks out because of this phase or something, or they
they didn't prime it.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Hey, wait, when you travel, right, and you and you
go you and travel a little bit, are you when
you go into a different area, right, if you go
to a race in Florida, Let's just say, are you
when you're driving, are you looking at at at different
sucle homes on the way to see how they've held
up and stuff?
Speaker 2 (30:05):
We go for walk, you know, easy walk for walking
and stuck on you know, I can't think your name
of it. But it's a really high end neighborhood in Miami.
We walk around there, right, and I wore my jacket
because it was kind of cold.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Baby's like, yay, can you come and do my house?
Come and do my house? Yeah, they're looking for people down.
You know, it's a shortage everywhere everywhere. Yeah, and you
go to see you know, I see those big high
rises once and I'm like, man, you know what, I'm
glad we never got involved in this stuff. You see,
because they're out there they're recording a lot right home,
they're recording and with you know, drive it. You know,
it seems to be the popular product that they're using
down there, the recom drive it and stuff like this.
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And he's like, man, you know, you just say, okay,
this is what we're doing this year, because that's what
you'll be saying, right right. They get a those swings
and you go up and down. You know, they're just
up and down and you'll be back in five years
probably when you see it. They're always working on them.
They're always you say, a swing is there? He's always
doing it. By the time he gets all around, he's
got around, he's got around and do it again.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Hey, when when somebody asks you, look, if we if
we do stucko, how long with proper maintenance? How long
is stuck a last.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Stuckle lasts on or twenty five years? The conventional stucko
by itself, right. The problem with eaves is it's only
designed to the last thirty years.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Big difference.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Yeah, well, but but not you buy a window now, right,
I wouldnow salesman come out to and tell you just like, well,
you should get windows every thirty years every twenty five years.
I mean, you know, you know roofs, they just don't
you know, they're starting to make stuff that lasts longer, right,
But you know it's like when Driver It came out there.
You know, my dad was out there and we go
to seminar and stuff this lasts, well five hundred years.
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You can't doss all this stuff in the ground. You can't.
That's five hundred years. They meant to say, like twenty five.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Yeah, big difference. I can tell you that. You know,
I grew up on the East Side, and not quite now,
but here in a couple of weeks, my dad would
seven eight seven o'clock on Saturday morning it's window day,
and we had to duplex, or my parents had to
duplex on the east side. And I was the youngest boy,
so the three mcgiffern boys were gone. So that meant
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it was me carrying all the storms or screens out
of the basement, get them washed, and then getting those
storms off. And they were the old wood that lasted forever, right,
And and my dad would patch them up a little bit,
or he'd put a nail here and nail there, or
try to patch it up and those storm windows lasted forever,
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much different than some of the stuff that we have.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
We do. We have some people that still want to
keep those alive, so we still repair those. We do those.
If you up some of these window companies that we've been,
you know, we work with somebody's because mainly because when
he'd go into the old stuck Ah home, we got
to be behind him. But they'll recommend us or at
least want a window repair. They'll recommend it's just us
to do it. But uh yeah, But a lot of
people on the East Side, especially by the lake and stuff,
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they don't take their windows off and on like they
used to. Right, they take this window off and that
window off and that wind off and they leave the
old I see that, and they're just sealed up tight.
Now they don't they just they don't take all them
all off and them all on like the Houston the
old days.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Yeah, it's funny because my dad, it was twice a year, right,
we're going from storms to screens or screens the storms
and was not my favorite Saturday, by the way, because
if I was there and he had had a stroke
when I was I don't know, I was software in
high school. So he just stood, you know and basically
yelled and said, hey, move that one over there, and
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he just numbered the windows. Well I knew that a
lot of.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
A lot of bumpstill have numbers on them. Yeah, the
original guys they put numbers on those things. They did them.
We did a we did one on another where the
painters took him off. They escaped all those numbers off. Oh,
because he had to get all that stuff off and
we said, well we had to putties all up and
do some stuff and no idea what works, and we
had to like spend a lot of time. It was
like doing the jigsaw puzzle. He said, hey, the windows
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that you guys made don't fit now, well because you
we don't know which what number? As our painter too
that he's no longer in business. I think it probably
took him out. But you know, people take you know,
people will take doorframes right, take the old doorframes off.
They want them all stripped and redone and restained. They
took all the doorframes off with the doors right all
stripped instead like the same right, the painters took the
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frames off and threw them off because they thought that
was our packaging.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
I got a text from your better half. She said
he looks at houses all the time. So it was like, look,
wherever we go, you're you're always looking at houses. That
that part of your business man. It's hard just to
take a nice walk, hold hands with your wife and
not look at all the houses in the neighborhood where
you're standing.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Yeah, she hates that do because sometimes I tell her story.
She goes every time we go past ourselves. You tell
me that story, you know she does that.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Well that that's okay. I would love to hear that.
We're going to get to a break the other side
of the break. This is This is the kind of
show I like to it because I don't get a
chance to talk to Bingo Emmons about some of the
questions that I have and people have sent me over
you know, the last few months. We don't have time
to talk about some of the things that they do
Creative Construction of Wisconsin, and so this this show for
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me is great. Big O Mmons my coast and special guest,
and we'll talk about the word special during the break.
This is the Creative Construction Wisconsin Home improvement show on
Fox Sports nine twenty in your iHeart Radio app. Welcome
back to the Creative Construction Wisconsin Homie Prova Shore on
Fox Sports nine twenty in your iHeartRadio App. I'm Mike
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McGivern alongside Bingo Emmons. He's the owner of Creative Construction
of Wisconsin. Hey, another big show coming up, the Home
and Gardens Show March twenty first through the thirtieth. It's
a long show. They're closed Monday and Tuesday. But you
guys are part of that.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Oh yeah, we're part of that. We're prot of a
step beyond Green. You know I'm doing We're doing some
of the seminars on the stage and then on the
big stage on Saturday. It's gonna be Aaron's gonna the
biggest crowd ever because you know, he started doing a
little bit at the NBA show. Yeah, and people like like, oh, well,
you know, people like, hey, I want to hear him again.
I want to hear him again. So he's trying to
be requested.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Good for him. Yeah, he's you know what, when he
comes and sits in for you, he's very comfortable in
this setting and does a really good job and has
a good sense of humor, ask good questions and it
don surprise me that he is, Uh, he's being requested.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Hey, the thing is because he brings Shelby. It could
be when you bring Shelby. Trust me, it's like bringing
a puppy.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Don't It is a little bit. You're kind of right, Hey,
it is the The Home of Garden Show is huge, right,
and I know that there takes.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Up the whole building. It's the biggest. It's everything start
the biggest. But they really are the biggest, and.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
They've been doing it. This is the nation's longest running
Home and Gardens show, ninety ninth annual. Really there's Home
and Garden Show and I know, look, Narry is more
home improvement, right, and this is the Garden Show has
a lot to do with it without a lot of
It's a lot.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Of the same people, the pain same people. To say
that the Narry Show will be there, the same people
that the NBA show will be there, more of them.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
And you'll you guys have a booth there.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Yes, we have a you'll be we'll be in with
a Step Beyond Green group of Jonathan and you know
and all the other friends from they care about healthy homes.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Yeah, Jai, Well, my wife made a comment last night
about Jonathan. She said, you know, since we've moved into
this condo, you seem to like have a cold more often.
You we need to get our ducks cleaned. So I
got a call Downavan Jordans and have them come out.
But it's interesting because she brought up Jonathan. She said, look,
since we moved here, you know both of us have
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had you know, we've probably had colds more, We've sneezed more.
We need to figure out why. Maybe have your guy
come out. I go, my guy, she said, yeah, that
guy that did the Healthy Home guy go, that's Jonathan.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
There's a there's a wellness person. It just works with
the mold and when people get are sick all the
time and can't figure why. She does this really good
test and she gets a really good deal when you're
at the show. So I'm sure she'll be there. She's
doing a really good deal at the show. And to
find out people are are more uh, I mean what
happened after a while. For mold gets to be around
for so long, your body builds immune system the whole step.
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That's how Step beyond Green got started, right, because people
are getting mold and everything, it's just all the other
chemicals and problems. You know, we just about water doctors
and things. There's all stuff that we do to help
you make your home healthier. I mean, for a while,
people are just building stuff as fast as he could.
Now what the what what they do is just help
homes to be healthier. Anyways, that mold, the mold thing.
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People are getting sick all the time. It's a real thing.
And people are because more people are seeing to be
more sick than before and they can't figure out what
it is. And when you get out done figured out there,
they're allergic to something and they get something that mold
builds it to something. It turns out that some when
Sam had a leak in the barn, right right, Uh,
some of the mold got hate moldy right, So they
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had ripped that data getrid of it because she just
can't be around that much mold, right, I mean, they
have to get rid of it. I mean. And it's
not just it's other people. You know, there's a lot
of people that have these mold problems. So and yeah,
and there's a la you know, and Jonathan's Uja could
talk about electrical waves, right, people have a headache all
the time. They can't forget what's going on, and then they,
you know, turn the Wi Fi off, don't and turn
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the wife off every night and the headache go away.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
So I get a picture sent to me. You standing
outside touching a building. Where was that?
Speaker 3 (39:19):
You know?
Speaker 2 (39:20):
I was like two hundred years old?
Speaker 1 (39:21):
You look good? Bad, you look really good. Where where
do you have any idea where that is?
Speaker 2 (39:28):
That looks like probably Eater of Spain Spain or something.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Yeah, well, I yeah, Bingo analyzed it actually in Savannah, Georgia.
Savantaid that house from the eighteen hundreds to and I said,
are you guys on vacation? She goes, yeah, we are,
But Bingo is analyzing the house from the eighteen hundred.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
That's what that's what jests He's go up to there.
You know what? You want to touch it? You know
you want to touch it. I touch it, But you
gotta think about the person that worked on it. It's
been dead for almost two undred years.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
You look good there. How long ago was that? You know?
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Probably about three or four years ago?
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Yeah, well you look good now that that is for sure?
Hey for for you? How much speaking are you doing
or how are you still to You're not doing classes anymore.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
They don't. They went online. There, he went online, so
I kind of lost my gig on it, and I
did to someone online. I can't do online because I
like interaction with people. I like being with people, and
we do online. You know, all of a sudden, you
see a picture of them. Then he got a picture
of like a cat or something. And because they're you know,
they're not even there anymore, right right, You hear them
in the other room talking. You forgot to turn the
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mic off, right, or they're making dinner.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
You know, you know, I mean, I've got more pictures
of you right now. I'm vacation. No, she's she's making
zucchini bread for us for next week. I think I
appreciate it. Hey, Froles. There you go the Home and
Gardens Show that we were talking about a little bit
about some information on that Friday, March twenty first through Sunday,
(40:56):
March thirtieth, and go online and you can take a
look at at the times because they're closed on Monday
and Tuesday, but open Friday, Saturday Sunday, so two weekends,
and look at the times. You can buy your tickets online.
Save yourself, Save yourself some money that that is stay for.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
And you can come there because Debbie, it's it's two weekends.
On the weekend, Debbie's she's retually mad at me by
the following weekend. But Debbie will be there every day.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
She wanted to see you her know that she sent
me a text USh years and now she knows now,
so deb But if you want to meet Devi and uh,
I would definitely make the trip over there just to
hang out with her for a while.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
Friday, March twenty whatever people.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Meet with her to go. You know, I just figured
it because I was here. She won't be on here.
She'll be mad about She's like the nicest person in
the world, but you will not.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
She will not come. I wish she was here today
because we'd have some time to talk to her.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
She was sitting behind you and should be kicking it.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
She would not. She won't come in studio and look,
I don't get it because she's very entertaining and says
what on her mind, which which I absolutely love. Hey
for people that come to see you at the Home
and Gardens show or is it mostly small inside jobs
or is it outdoor?
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Most of the time they walk by the booth and
you go, oh, I didn't know there's still a plaster alive,
right right right? And then we always got the famous
woodpicker displayed that stuf there and he goes, oh my gosh,
you guys fixies, give me your card. Uh, never mind,
just here's my address, Come and do it. I mean,
they're just so they're so excited that there's still a
guy that can still do this stuff.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
Hey, how much percentage of business stucckle to plaster to
to others? Right? Water damage something else? Like how much
percentage wise is the kind of business for creative construction
of Wisconsin?
Speaker 2 (42:44):
Most of our stuff is damage, you know. You know,
then cell phones came out, and you know, in the
whole car problem or having people keep driving in people's houses,
you know, I mean there's I just I got wonder.
It's like I saw this picture the air and his
airings us like, how fast were they going? It's undred
years off the road and he hit the living room
right man? How what were he doing? How they and
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he said, well they missed the driveway. It's nowhere near it.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
How much? Yeah, you can't ask questions? Do you get
called from insurance companies? A lot.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Yes, Yeah, we get call from insurance company because they
say people, you know, we need a price. We need
someone to put some moneys together. I do a lot
of stuff with that. We just just Zach just finished
one for Paul Davis.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
We do a lot of stuff with Killman Services.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Kelman is a company I do some work with through
the mcgivers.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Just I was just we just had an after five
with them on Tuesday. Really and Joseph, Yeah, I know
Joseph and for a long time, twenty I don't know,
he's probably been there forever.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
Yeah, that company. I'm a huge fan of Calman Restoration.
And it's interesting because I didn't know a lot about them,
and and so I needed to kind of learn their
business and the idea of restoring instead of repairing, similar
to what you said about Creative Construction Wisconsin. Very sick
mission statement for the people at Calmet. If you're looking
(44:03):
to repair it, maybe we're not the company. If you're
looking to restore it, we're the company to call.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Yeah, that's what they just called me a little while
ago about you know, somebod hit a car a chicken
wing place. I don't want to you know, rip on
the people, right, But it was someone hit someone ran
into the front of the building, right, And that's what
they called me up there, and that's what they call
me up to, says, I just want you to do
all of it. Just do it all, just because it's
all your work anyways. Just give me a price, do
the whole thing. You know.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
It's interesting is how I got involved with them is
their golf outing. I've been the last couple of years.
Dave Marquis from Nationwide, Florida, and I grew up and
he invites me to his his uh his foursome, which
I really appreciate. But they, I mean, the Calmet Restoration
golf outing is different. They they they've got big pipes
that come through they they they pray together before they
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get out of the golf course. It's it's different to
raising money for the Calman Foundation. The last two years
I've been part of that has been really really impressive
to me. And now we're but give her at Agency
started to do some some digital and broadcasting branding for
them because they haven't done a lot of that over there.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
Yeah, they haven't invited us for a while, but a
couple years ago we sponsored a whole farm and if
you we got it, we you know, a gift card
from home debor or something. Yeah, we did some stuff
with them beyond. But now as ex golfing, I mean seriously,
I'm surprised that you know I'm signed up yet.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
Yeah, we will. I'll make sure that he gets the information. Bengo,
thanks for allowing us to do this this week, and
we'll have Jason from JJ Contractors in in a couple
of months.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
He's uh, he said, he's never ever ever, doesn't never
happened to him in his whole entire life.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
And that what he said.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
He goes, I've never done this. I owe you big apologizing.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
It worked out okay though. It gave us a chance
to kind of highlight and do a reset look and
thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
Had you got Thomas owes you dinner at the Eleanor.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
Yes he does.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
And you know what we did. That was live, That
was Bingo talking. So Jason, you're listening, I got to
get over there and have dinner. It's thank thank you
so much. Have a good week, and thanks for sponsoring
this show. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
Well, thanks for having me on every week. You got it,
You're always a new adventure.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
You were Aaron Good co host. We get to a break.
Other side of the break, we're talking high school sports.
It's playoff time both girls basketball and boys basketball, and
we'll start to break that down.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Why an't we talking about Nascar?
Speaker 1 (46:20):
No, I think in six weeks I'll get back down.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
That Indy cars start tomorrow, just so you know.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
No, I know that. Yeah, I've already recorded it.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
I might.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
I have no idea. This is the creative construction of
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coming live from the Donovant and Jorginson Heating and Cooling Studios.
It's cold again, man, you gotta make sure that furnace
is working well.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
It's Yeah, it's pretty deceiving it because like yesterday, no
normal was yesterday. My phone is just ringing like crazy. Hey,
it's warm out. You can come and do my house.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Yeah, let's go.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hey, we just wait. It won't be calling today.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
They will not be calling today, that's for sure. Any
issues you have, if you want to get your conditioner
ready to go, go to Donovan Jorginson dot com. My
name is Mike McGivern alongside Bingo Emmons. He's the owner
of Creative Construction Wisconsin. It's just you and I. It
looks like today.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know what happened to Jason.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Jason JJ contractors who were If you're on your way,
send me a text.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
I had a big tribute. I was gonna say about
the nice things about him because you know, you know,
my whole dad's funeral and everything. He was a big
part of it, but well because he doesn't get to
hear it.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
He doesn't get to hear it, and uh, look he's uh,
he's a busy, busy man. JJ Contractors LLC, JJ Custom Home.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I just want to hear Juliet. I want her on
what I was trying to get on.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Yeah, the I wanted to talk about the restaurant a
little bit. But we will get Jason back in studio
here in a few weeks or a couple of months,
and uh, just check in with him. How are things
that Creative Construction Wisconsin busy?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Huh, We're really busy. And it's when I talk to
some people say it's kind of slow and do some stuff.
Our guys are getting more overtime right now than you
do in August. Really just the cold, the heat and
the covering and ever. We just people still don't want
need stuff done. Yeah, I mean, and I'm sure that
when you had Aaron in the studio, he told you
about his big job and.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Madison Madison and talk about he was so proud of
the work you guys were doing there. And he said,
you know that I'll come back and forth. And it
depends if Shelby says Dad when you coming home. I
get into the car and I go home.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yeah. Well, yeah, yesterday Sam and you know Sam and
Shelby are sick. Oh yeah, he bailed on them early yesterday.
He's at home and he's got to take care of
everything because their house is not just an easy house
that take care. They gotta do chores. They got horses,
they got geese, I know, they got all kinds of stuff.
So so Aaron had a quick work to go to work.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
You know, I was at their house for a surprise
party for dev and it was it was really cool.
It's an old farmhouse, been around forever and they've done
so much with the barn. And and look, I I'm
afraid of horses. Man, I got thrown twice. I am not.
But you get out, you go to their house and
(02:36):
watch the horses run in the back. And like you said,
they talking to Aaron, he said, you know, I get
done with work and then I've got chores. There's a
lot to do over here. And man, they don't mind.
Both Aaron and Sam are not afraid to work up.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
They've got their own thing. So you know, they're on
a full farm thing. I mean, they're bailing their own hey,
right during their own stuff, right, you know, plus you know,
plus you know work in construction too.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Oh man, Well hopefully, sam Mi, shall we feel better
this weekend?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah? I hope you too. Yeah. We're supposed to Aaron's
birthday party on Sonny, but I don't want to go
there and catch something.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
No, don't Yeah, good, zoom just go. Look I'll be
there via via zoom. Hey, this time of year, as
it's starting to get a little bit warmer, and you said,
look it was warm, and my phone was just blowing up.
Everybody who has been waiting for you guys to come
and be able to do outdoor work is now thinking, Okay,
I'm first in line. Let's go. How busy are you?
(03:29):
You guys booked throughout.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
The The worst part about this is, you know, it's
hard to say this. I'll be honest. We have very
little openings for this summer. I mean, that's how far
be for our calling, isn't it. And I understand why
they're calling. They want to make sure we get their
house done right, you know, because I'm looking at their
house and you know, in November, And he said, when
can we When do you think we can do it?
(03:50):
We'll schedule to fight August. Really that far out? Yes,
I mean what we do is respect. We just don't
hire anybody. You can't just hire anybody to do what
we do really good at what we do. Takes a
lot of training, and you know, most of the time
people are one of our family members doing it.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Is the majority of the work that you do starting
spring and going through summer outdoor? Is it all stucco?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Well, most of it's all doors. Well, we get a
lot of rain, you know, you know, we got we
got rain. You know, a lot of our guys are
working outside. I mean, you know, airing those guys. Those
guys have been outside all winter. How Cola was, Yeah,
tents outside, we got heaters, tense and we can accommodate
for it.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
But water damage stucco, plaster? What what is this time year?
As spring starts to come, what are most people asking
you to come out and do?
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Well? Right now, a lot of people are calling up
about the plaster and work because they say, hey, you
know you said you catch my because I say, I'll
give you a deal if you wait the winter. Yeah,
well winter's almost over and here yet. Yeah, I don't
want to get stuck in summer, but we take care
of them.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
You know, well then you know I got I looked
at Holy Hill like last last summer, right, and I said, okay,
I'll catch you guys. I'll catch you guys in in uh,
you know, in January or February when it's colder, right, right,
And so that's great because you know, as many weddings
and stuff. Now, I'll say, you know, last week is
like he was calm. Hey, it's almost the end of February,
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can you guys? So Zach went up there and stuff.
You know, it isn't to them. It's just fun to
work there because you get to look out all the
towers and stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Right, How how big of a job? Like when you
do something and you say Holy Hill. You know, I've
been there for a number of things, a couple of things.
I was there at a funeral not too long ago,
and it's beautiful. But when you talk about doing something
at Holy Hill, tell me about the kind of job
they needed, you.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Need a job or just like you wanted to as
you know that Zach just went to church every day
this last week, okay, because yeah, because we're working, we're
doing the bridal suite and we're doing like outside the
entrance and stuff of the church. So they have masks
every day from eleven to twelve, and they don't want us, right,
we can't be like plastering and doing stuff while we're
doing that. So that's so we so we take off there.
But it's it's the kind of stuff we do, is
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we do stuff that people see. So that's why they
want them really good. It was just like a closet
or something nobody cares, but right there's something where everybody,
you know, thousands of people look at it every all
the time. Then they want us to be there because
they want to When we get done, it looks like
it looks original now brand new, it looks original.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Yeah, so you're restoring not repairing. Yeah, yeah, I like
that with a place like like Holy Hill. Do they
have three or four different things that they want done?
Is it one job?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah, we're doing We're doing stuff in phases, right, you know,
because your money is a part of a part of it. Right,
So we're doing some stuff and then outside the elevator shafts,
we're scheduling that. We're just going to schedule that for
next year. I think okay, because they're just like, hey
know what, what can we they want to do something else?
Do you want to skip this project and do this prectic?
There's all money, got a allocated? So you know, I mean,
and you know, especially with churches we work out stuff
with them. Is that it's right? You know, we'll do
(06:44):
this section now just basically or whatever.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Hey, then why would toast a project that we had
talked about a number of months ago? The coffee shop?
Is that done now? Uh?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
No? I think Zach's Zach City. They're waiting for the drywalls.
They had to get the last people of drywall in
or something. And it's like one window we got touched up,
but it's because because he didn't put the window in,
because that's how I get the dry well in. But
I was yeah, once once we get the call to
fix that, and then he got to be done. Yeah,
it looks like it's done. I don't think so. No,
(07:14):
it's getting there if it is open the invice or open,
and I'll be mad because yeah, because that was the
owner that specifically requested us that we do it. It
wasn't the contractor. You know, contractors don't always like to
hire us because we're kind of expensive, but the owner
wanted us to do it no matter what.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Hey, so we we haven't had a chance for I
think a year and a half to just kind of
talk a little bit about Creative Construction Wisconsin. And for
people that have started to listen to the show that
that hear us talk to the name of the company
a lot, but don't understand the background, the history. Can
we spend the next couple of minutes in segment wanted
(07:50):
to talk a little bit about Creative Construction Wisconsin. You
guys been around six generations.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Now my kids are the sixth generation.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Yeah, Sam and Zach cool take over the company one
day will be six generation. When when you tell people that,
and when I tell people that, I get a lot
of like, whoa really? So they've been around that long?
And if they go to the website and see a
picture of you know this, this group of at a
(08:18):
wedding and it's all of these people and it's like, look,
this is I don't know when the picture was taken,
but the gentleman that I'm looking at right here, sixth
generation with the beard. This is when this whole thing started.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah, well, the little baby ban lapter. That's actually my
grandpa really yeah, a baby and laptor and it's his
dad and Pops and you back. And then my grandpa,
my grandpa's always I never met Pops, but my Grandpa's
to talk about him, you know a lot. And then yeah,
then my grandpa was I actually learned not a busser
for my grandpa. He's really really good. Not the rip
on my dad or anything.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
But yeah, yeah, well I talked to Zach and your
and Zach says, my grandfather taught me because my dad,
you know, we I don't know if I had the
patience for him, but my grandfather the patients for me,
and you know, it kind of is the way this
thing works. If my grandfather, I never met my dad's dad,
and he was the barrickler in a Mason that didn't
(09:12):
have the patients to teach his kids. But I've got
a feeling that if his you know, if his dad
was wrong and that's where he learned it from, he
would have had the patients to teach his grandkids.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, we'll see, you know, and we'll see what a
generation's goal. Right now, only seventh generation we have with it.
Shelby Shelby run. I'll see how she see where this goes,
and maybe.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I'll have that conversation with young Zach.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
We need need to get it.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Let's go. There's a couple of steps we got to
get to before we get there. But how was his
house going?
Speaker 2 (09:41):
By the way he moved in?
Speaker 1 (09:43):
He did.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
He moved in, and for three weeks in a row
he's telling me about I'm gonna get my fireplace done.
And then yesterday he was telling me. He said, I said, Zach,
so what are you doing this weekend? He goes, I'm
working my fireplace and that's I said. Look, three weeks
a roll, right he's talking to He says, but I
might have to go golf, And I was on, he
might have to go golfing, might have to, Yeah, you
might have to. I don't think it's me that it's
easy to say that on Friday when I yeah, not today.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Unless you head over to that place by the airport
where look you can get inside and and the heaters
are you're hitting it out of the driving range and
stuff like that. So I don't know if Zach's been there.
Last time I talked to he hadn't. So I gotta
I gotta get him over there. Hey, when when we
talked a little bit about the greenhouse growth project and
where I'm going with this is, he said, look, we're busy.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Did you ever find out who won that?
Speaker 1 (10:30):
I did? Yeah, we uh confetti last year last week
in the studio here witnet have won that thing. But
that's the reason when you talk about trying to get
kids into the trades and how you are hiring, it's
when you look at your your calendar and your schedule.
It's you guys are booked through through probably fall.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
At this point.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
If we didn't get another crew together, we don't down.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
We don't slow down. And I've been doing a lot
of work with the Narry Madison chapter yep and uh.
And there's also home Inspectors out there in Madison and
they just say, hey, you know it's time for you guys.
They get a branch out here. So we like to
do that and we're trying to work on it. But
it's you know, I can keep the family values. We'd
want to just hire some sub correct Yeah, because that's
that doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
No, not with the reputation that you guys have.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
We got up to talk to someone all right, who
wants to move to Madison, right, yeah, because Aaron doesn't
mind driving back and forth out there.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
No, he saidied it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
And then Debbie is always a winner of that because
she likes those elephant ear things, right, you know from
that from that one famous.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
And and Aaron will do that one. Yeah yeah right
in bribes right in uh in Johnson Creek, right.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah, yeah. If I forget the name of that place,
but they got those big elephant ears.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
It is, uh, let me think my my daughter and
son in law. Well he wouldn't my cima At the time,
they both went to Maranatha Baptist Bible College and they
were a waiter and waitress in not only that place,
but then the the restaurant across Highway, Harry's something like
that right across the street. But that I've I've had
(12:02):
a few of those over the years. And that's pretty
nice that Aaron will stop there and drive up something.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
He does know. I got you a present, deb I
hate it when you buy those things. Well you don't
have to eat them, no, no, no, oh, they're gone though, Yeah,
deb I'll give you give it to the geese. No, no,
I'll eat it.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Hey, Aaron. It was fun having him in a couple
of weeks ago. And he said, look, when when we
moved here and I got a chance to be part
of this this uh, this company. I knew I was
walking into a family owned company. What I didn't realize
is just the tradition and and you know the reputation
of Creative Construction Wisconsin. I had to up my game
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to make sure that I was strong enough to be
part of this team. And and he said, look at
you know it. It It is a family owned company
and a family run company, but the people that work
here kind of feel like we're all part of that family.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Yeah. Another guy too, I remember Darren Fisher. Yeah, he's
been on a radio a couple of times. Yeah. Well
he's he's teaching a class and I volunteered. You know, Aaron,
it's act to Goal. But Aaron went anyways, so he's
been like this right, and that's what he's telling me.
He says, Hell. Daron's like, so, I said, hell is
Aaron doing? He says, Man, you know he's so he's
so focused on trying to keep the legacy going. I
mean he's just that's what him. He said, That's all
(13:15):
he was talking about, I want to do everything can
and keep his legacy going.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Well. Good for him because he understands the history behind it,
which I think is really I mean, it really is important.
I love the fact that you know, he when you
have somebody that comes in from the outside, even though
you know they Mary Sam and she could be telling
him all about this company. Man, he is fully invested
in it. And when he's talking about especially look when
(13:41):
he talked about that job at Madison, he lit up
like a Christmas tree. He said, Look, we're doing really
good work for them, and they they've wanted us to
come and do this and for us to be as
good as we are. It's a good match. Even though
it's it's in Madison, but they you know, they're paying
us a little bit extra to have to come invest.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
We work out there all the time, you know, we do,
you know, buy four or five jobs just last summer
alone out there because we said, you know, it's in
costal moret because you got to pay for the travel time,
you know, and then you know they're doing it because
you don't really have much of a choice if you
want that kind of work.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Hey, So a question that we got text and now
that we can spend an hour talking creative construction Wisconsin.
Can you apply stucco over brick?
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Hard to do? Can you do it on your own?
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Actually been doing it for a thousand, you know, one
hundred years. A brick's been around, right, a long. Brick's
been wrong to be applying dirt and mud over bricks.
It's not like it's not a new science. You know,
you ever hear you know I'm trying. They get German shmaring,
and you always see that. You always like, do they
paint bricks parsh ways and stuff like that on TV
and stuff? But real German smearing is nothing more than
(14:48):
lime cement and sand, right. And there was a way
of tuck pointing the bricks because remember when you tuck
point a brick, you want to make us you have
to uh, when you do bricks, you want to make
us at the mortar joints wrought out before the bricks
so they don't break the bricks. That's why the mortar
is always real soft.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Back then it was type of you know, visual lime cement,
you know, you know, Portland smith was didn't really come
around in the nineteen twenties. Around here, you know. So anyways,
uh so what you always would you see those old houses,
Like we had someone that buy a house, one of
those people that put the pen big pans or something,
and they bought a house in a lake and I said,
(15:25):
did you bought a bill brand new house? You want
a German shmier to make it like it's five hundred
years old. So we do is we actually take lime
smith that we smeared, you rub it out. What that
German shmer is really you're doing is they're trying to
rub in the mortar back into the joints okay, and
it just looks it's sloppily done. And that's the desk
the real German shmmere. When people sad about bricks, that
stuff stays on forever. Then you ever see we have
people that will that will stuck over bricks and then
(15:47):
you want to expose a little bit of bricks and
make it look like it's a natural. And I said,
we do it in people's houses. Now they want they
put up bricks and he wants to make look stuck
or plaster fall off the brick.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Well, the the artists that we had in who wanted
the ceiling and the client wanted the ceiling to look
like something came through the ceiling, and I, uh, I
just laughed, like wouldn't that for me? Would be not
anything I'd ever think of. And this woman said, this
is exactly what what my client wanted. And the only person,
(16:20):
the only people I could find that could do it
correctly was Creative Construction in Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Right, because we had people do it. We people do that,
especially in their basements and stuff and other things. They
want to make it look like like it's old, like
something like plasters falling off the wall, right, you know,
and they do that, and you know, and it's and
you have to do that. So what we do is
we actually take it. You know. All we do is,
you know, we actually take it and then we pull
it off to make it look like it just fell off.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Hey what about color? If if somebody is looking, do
do stucco coming different color or is that something you
guys have to add?
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Well, yeah, it comes on white or gray. Basically, original
stucca was always like a white because the type of
slime cement it was always white. And that's why you
see so much white old stuff is white. It's that
kind of tannish white because they had Mason sand, you know,
Bay Safety of sand from Lake Michigan right at the time.
And that's why I was always kind of get tannish.
And then Portland came along, which is grayer, and Portland's
(17:14):
named after you know, that's the color Portland named after
the rock.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
But can you add like a tint to again.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
That's what we do. It's a lot of stuff. We we
have tints just iron ore oxides, right, you know, stuff
that lasts for a long time. You know. That's why
you see a lot of you see stuckhos. You know,
they have a certain color. You can get the greens,
you get reds on them. They're not real deep pastels,
but they can get it pretty dark looking.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Hey do you how much are you out in.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
That coffee shop? That's tinted stuff? I mean that was
that's tinted stucco. Okay, you know you have to you
know how many you know, precise, you got to be
the very fast, perfectly right, I mean, because you can't
mix it. You know, you're mixing up hundreds of batches.
And if you just tea spoon in the wrong direction
and it'll stick out and that's what you see, like
when you're on in Florida and you see nothing in
our matches, right, because they just don't want to measure it.
They just like, oh that looks good.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Yeah, it's it's close. Hey, you personally, do you miss
being out on doing the I mean, I'm sure you
still are out of the job and you're working, but
not like it used to be. Crasy.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I don't like being on a you know, seven rings
high and a chimney or a dormer story dormer, you
know their typical east side anything east side where you know,
everything is right really super high and you can you know,
if you put up a ladder, you can't put it up.
It's got to be almost straight up because there's no
room with two houses.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Hey, with the and I don't mean to bring up
any bad, bad memories, but with with the you know
you had had an accident. Does that did you think
about that at all?
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Is that the reason you don't want to go up
and do that?
Speaker 2 (18:42):
No? No, no, no, that one like this, right? I
know actually before they actually fell off two story dormer, okay, right,
I was just I was working on a dormer, right,
and then I just went, I stepped. Whare I should't
have step? Next? I know I'm signing on a gutter
and local the gutter has me. Wham the gutter and
me went. Both went down so like it. I was
laughing beside the guy I was working with. He came
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down the ladder, He's like, yeah, right right, and I says,
oh this, I better go up and finish right now
because I'm gonna be so I'm not gonna be able
to move in a couple of minutes here, so let's
hurry up. So I went and did it. I was
sorry when I was all right, yeah, but the other
one I was only I was fifteen feet three inches
when I just shattered my arm or my brains and everything.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
How long did it take you to get.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
And that wasn't on a job, by the way, It wasn't.
That wasn't no, no, that's not my first three porch.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Yeah, I bet I've got a feeling deb after you
felt better, yelled at.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
You for doing it, screwed all the window shut everything.
I wasn't allowed to go outside.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Well you know what that you know why? Because she
loves her some bingo image. I can tell you that guys,
So let's get to break a number of questions. For
the first time in a long time on this show,
We're gonna be able to talk more about Creative Construction
of Wisconsin. And we'll have Jason from JJ Contractors and
JJ Custom Homes in in a couple of months to
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catch up with him. And I know that you you
had some really nice things to say about him. He's
gonna have to wait till he comes to st Gonna happen,
not gonna happen. We're gonna get to a break. Other
side of the break, ill continue to talk with Bingo
m as the owner of Creative Construction of Wisconsin. This
is the Creative Construction Wisconsin Home Improvement Shaw on Fox
Sports nine twenty in Your iHeart Radio App. Come back
(20:20):
to the Creative Construction of Wisconsin Home Improvement Shaw on
Fox Sports nine twenty in Your iHeartRadio app. Coming live
from the Donovan and Jorganson Heating and Cooling Studios, largest
employee owned HVAC company in the state of Wisconsin. I'm
Mike McGivern alongside he's my co host, but now he's
kind of my special guest. I guess this week he
is Bingo, Emmon's owner of Creative Construction of Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
I'm special Spencer here.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Well, we can discuss the definition of special during the
next break. How's that We can certainly go ahead and
do that. Hey, a couple of quick questions for you,
and again we we what happens on this show is
we ad Jason from JJ Contractors and stuff that came
up I think for him, And so we get a
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chance to talk about some of the things that Creative
Construction Wisconsin does and I'll start getting text messages I
did this morning. I had a couple of people wanting
to me to ask Jason some roofing questions. So we're
going to pass on that question for you. Regarding stucco,
is there a difference between acrylic stucco and traditional stucco?
Speaker 2 (21:28):
And I think with a crilic they're talking about eaves,
that's that stuff. But you know it's basically acrylic paint
and and stone chips mixed together as a finished coding
and the eaves and so yeah, there's a difference. It
was actually designed to be a cheaper insulated type product,
but it turned out that's not what they thought it
was going to be. And we're just as guilty as
other people. Back in the late eighties, and you know,
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back in the eighties, you know, even late seventies, we
started doing that whole you know things most people know
what it's called, drive it, you know, or stole you know,
this kind of things. We thought we had that's a
really great product. The problem was is that trap's moisture.
That was something that they didn't figure out. So that's
why down in Arizona it's great, right well, it have
a moisterre problem down there.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
And the question if you are doing stuck a work here,
would would it be the same type of work if
you lived in someplace.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
We want to if you ask us that, you call
us up and you send me a plans to do
drive it, we will not do it. We just won't
not do it.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
You won't.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
I won't do it. Because within ten fifteen years later
they got it. They got some major repairs on her hand. Well,
and I look at these things right now, they're twenty
years old, thirty years old, and they're like, hey, can
you come over, and you're like, you know, you know,
they want to go on and touch up cock and
paint it or something like, man, I don't know all
these things there. It didn't. It didn't last years that
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we thought it was going to last. It's one of
those things that kind of wish was never invented, because
I may he gave plastering a bad name. Okay, the
whole stucco industry a bad name because nobody wants to
stuck a home now because that's got your reputation to
drive it.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Hey, stucco, We've had this conversation a number of years ago.
But when we talk about, yeah, the idea, why does
stucco crack? And a quote that I saw online this morning,
there are two types of stucco homes. Yeah, one that
is cracked and one that's going to crack.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Yeah. Actually we say that it's actually that's actually from
a concrete world to the same thing people say it
is a driveway. What's the difference between, you know, two keeps,
you know, one driveway that has a crack and one
that's going to crack. Because that's what it is. It's
going to crack eventually. And that's again and home inspectors
and they're great because you know, but they don't know.
So I'll go there and look at it and say
it's just I go, it's just a crack, right, And
(23:39):
that said, what is it just makes your own control joint. Now,
if you look at buildings when you do a stucco,
they got control joints up all over stuff. They got
lines cut into them. They have different designs. Even in
uh the eaves you know, still and drive at homes,
I always got the horizontal lines. Now they got to
see colck joints because they found out that they can't
just do what they're doing because it's going to crack.
And homeowners get upset when you see that crack.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
But it's just natural, right, it's natural setting to the
building and the seasonal changes hearing.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
It's like it's like people, you know, they get you
see any highway right, they cracked, right. It isn't like
it's like, oh you know, I mean because they get people,
so I get the really special cement. No, there's no,
there's nothing, there's nothing special. It's it's it's got to shrinking,
you know, and expand and a lot of the problems
that the problem what gave the epic or the crylic
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stuck is such a bad name is it was just
installed wrong. And it's still installed wrong even today. That's
what I do, is I do EEF's inspections. You know,
me and David Ason are two of you know, EEFs
inspectors around this area, and we look at all the
time and it's the first thing we do is you know,
without even going to the job, we know that it
will probably be done wrong. And it's just it's a
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shame because they can't afford to do it right. They
don't want, you know, trying to be trying to get
the houses prices down to do things and gets cut
in corners. They're trying to find ways to save stuff right,
just simple, I mean. And that's why I do, is
I go anytime you see eaves and like an LP
smart any kind of siding, brick, masonry, anything, anytime I
brace masonry or anything plaster or stuck, always has to
have a rope and clock joint between a joints adjacent
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surfaces right right. And they don't do it. They'll just
like smet right up to the window frame and then
it you know, and twenty years later you got to
replace the windows because and the wood rotted out. And
it was only because they could have just done it
right the first time. We wouldn't have that issue.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Yeah, and they went on. They were looking to make
a little bit more money. I would think, is do
you often have people come that that buy a home
that's stuck go and decide they don't want stucco anymore?
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Well, sometimes they asked, they just we just look at
houses and I got, you know, some things that I'm
in lawsuits with people they were just done wrong. And
I'm just like, you know, if you got to recite
it anyways, if you just don't want stuck, or you
don't have to. It's not like stucker is gonna be
done cheaper.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Right, So is it hard to take stucco down?
Speaker 2 (26:03):
No, No, it's it's just a dembal process. So it's
especially the stuck what they're talking about. That's you know,
the styrofoam stuck over that just that's nothing.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
If if somebody is building a new home and they
they they if they come to you and say, look,
it's stucco a good choice for my home.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
What you know where you know, we still do new homes,
but they're conventional stucko only, right, you know, certain slut
customers and stuff. You know, Yeah, the actually people that
actually build homes when they build their own home, they
they'll want real conventions. Did you want stuck wan? He says,
I build my own home. I can't have my house correct.
I can't have my house looking bad. Yeah. I need
you guys to do it right, I mean yeah? So
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yeah we still do it.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Did do you when for the product that you use,
it's not something you go to home depot to get correct?
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Yeah, you could buy what you could buy from home depot,
especially like you know, you go on Texas, they sell
type oh right on the shelf. They they don't sell here,
No here, We got to go get it from a colony.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Hey, we had talked about some stuff that that Terry
and I are thinking about doing, and and some folding
doors that we have in our house if I want,
if I the reason we want to change these out
is when when the person who flipped the condo that
we bought, they did a lot of things really top notch.
A couple of things they went cheap on and one
(27:21):
were these folding doors. So we want to be able
to get to have a higher quality a couple of
doors in our condo. Is there someplace other than a
minority or home people that we should go to look
for the top quality.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Ye, there's a lot of places. I mean, you know
you got everything from. I don't know, well molcking Milwork
anymore because I really just don't go there anymore because
that was back when my friends with Greg was there.
Yeah yeah, I mean but Blifford is you know Kristin
and Morgan Yard. I have a problem like that. I
go talk to him. Okay, if he doesn't have it,
he will tell me who to get it from. Okay,
(27:57):
he's a really great guy.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Good. Well, that's a really good good idea because I've
we've walked through minards tearing, and we walked I think
through home depot and we looked and I don't know
if the quality of the folding doors, I think that's
probably where they bought those from, and they're just not
you know what. The whole place we love, right, the ceilings,
everything that the fireplace to the things that she did
(28:20):
correct and and and top notch. But then a couple
of different areas she went a little bit cheap on
and and it's been bugging me for two years. And
so we're going to try to get but I'm just
not sure. I guess Blifford Lumber would be the place
to go.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Yeah, well because they just you got people out there,
just the quality and Blifford is quality. They're actually having
a semimar on Friday. If you get nothing to do
all day?
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Are they doing anything on folding doors? Because maybe I'm
not doing it myself.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
So that's the thing that's contractors go to just because
we get credits for it.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
There you go, you really should. Hey, when somebody has
stucco and they want so they want to paint after
you guys are done, how long did they need to wait?
Speaker 2 (29:05):
In the old days, you had to wait a year
for the you know for the piata change. But now
what these primers that we got you can just do
right away. So that's what we do stock about. And
that's why we always say all the time when we
do it, it's always like prime in paint. It was
like I talked to my paint and needing to primate
and I know, look at the rest of your house
and tell me why.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Do you guys do the paint too or do that?
Does the homeowner to find somebody to do after you
guys get done?
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Did they mostly your pairs? We prefer to our own
painting because when we get done, you can't see the patch.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Right.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
You got a guy who goes out there and I
want to rip on some brands out there. But they
put it on there and then a year later it
sticks out because of this phase or something, or they
they didn't prime it.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Hey, wait, when you travel, right, and you and you
go you and travel a little bit, are you when
you go into a different area, right, if you go
to a race in Florida, Let's just say, are you
when you're driving, are you looking at at at different
sucle homes on the way to see how they've held
up and stuff?
Speaker 2 (30:05):
We go for walk, you know, easy walk for walking
and stuck on you know, I can't think your name
of it. But it's a really high end neighborhood in Miami.
We walk around there, right, and I wore my jacket
because it was kind of cold.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Baby's like, yay, can you come and do my house?
Come and do my house? Yeah, they're looking for people down.
You know, it's a shortage everywhere everywhere. Yeah, and you
go to see you know, I see those big high
rises once and I'm like, man, you know what, I'm
glad we never got involved in this stuff. You see,
because they're out there they're recording a lot right home,
they're recording and with you know, drive it. You know,
it seems to be the popular product that they're using
down there, the recom drive it and stuff like this.
(30:38):
And he's like, man, you know, you just say, okay,
this is what we're doing this year, because that's what
you'll be saying, right right. They get a those swings
and you go up and down. You know, they're just
up and down and you'll be back in five years
probably when you see it. They're always working on them.
They're always you say, a swing is there? He's always
doing it. By the time he gets all around, he's
got around, he's got around and do it again.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Hey, when when somebody asks you, look, if we if
we do stucko, how long with proper maintenance? How long
is stuck a last.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Stuckle lasts on or twenty five years? The conventional stucko
by itself, right. The problem with eaves is it's only
designed to the last thirty years.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Big difference.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Yeah, well, but but not you buy a window now, right,
I wouldnow salesman come out to and tell you just like, well,
you should get windows every thirty years every twenty five years.
I mean, you know, you know roofs, they just don't
you know, they're starting to make stuff that lasts longer, right,
But you know it's like when Driver It came out there.
You know, my dad was out there and we go
to seminar and stuff this lasts, well five hundred years.
(31:34):
You can't doss all this stuff in the ground. You can't.
That's five hundred years. They meant to say, like twenty five.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Yeah, big difference. I can tell you that. You know,
I grew up on the East Side, and not quite now,
but here in a couple of weeks, my dad would
seven eight seven o'clock on Saturday morning it's window day,
and we had to duplex, or my parents had to
duplex on the east side. And I was the youngest boy,
so the three mcgiffern boys were gone. So that meant
(31:59):
it was me carrying all the storms or screens out
of the basement, get them washed, and then getting those
storms off. And they were the old wood that lasted forever, right,
And and my dad would patch them up a little bit,
or he'd put a nail here and nail there, or
try to patch it up and those storm windows lasted forever,
(32:21):
much different than some of the stuff that we have.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
We do. We have some people that still want to
keep those alive, so we still repair those. We do those.
If you up some of these window companies that we've been,
you know, we work with somebody's because mainly because when
he'd go into the old stuck Ah home, we got
to be behind him. But they'll recommend us or at
least want a window repair. They'll recommend it's just us
to do it. But uh yeah, But a lot of
people on the East Side, especially by the lake and stuff,
(32:46):
they don't take their windows off and on like they
used to. Right, they take this window off and that
window off and that wind off and they leave the
old I see that, and they're just sealed up tight.
Now they don't they just they don't take all them
all off and them all on like the Houston the
old days.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Yeah, it's funny because my dad, it was twice a year, right,
we're going from storms to screens or screens the storms
and was not my favorite Saturday, by the way, because
if I was there and he had had a stroke
when I was I don't know, I was software in
high school. So he just stood, you know and basically
yelled and said, hey, move that one over there, and
(33:24):
he just numbered the windows. Well I knew that a
lot of.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
A lot of bumpstill have numbers on them. Yeah, the
original guys they put numbers on those things. They did them.
We did a we did one on another where the
painters took him off. They escaped all those numbers off. Oh,
because he had to get all that stuff off and
we said, well we had to putties all up and
do some stuff and no idea what works, and we
had to like spend a lot of time. It was
like doing the jigsaw puzzle. He said, hey, the windows
(33:49):
that you guys made don't fit now, well because you
we don't know which what number? As our painter too
that he's no longer in business. I think it probably
took him out. But you know, people take you know,
people will take doorframes right, take the old doorframes off.
They want them all stripped and redone and restained. They
took all the doorframes off with the doors right all
stripped instead like the same right, the painters took the
(34:12):
frames off and threw them off because they thought that
was our packaging.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
I got a text from your better half. She said
he looks at houses all the time. So it was like, look,
wherever we go, you're you're always looking at houses. That
that part of your business man. It's hard just to
take a nice walk, hold hands with your wife and
not look at all the houses in the neighborhood where
you're standing.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Yeah, she hates that do because sometimes I tell her story.
She goes every time we go past ourselves. You tell
me that story, you know she does that.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Well that that's okay. I would love to hear that.
We're going to get to a break the other side
of the break. This is This is the kind of
show I like to it because I don't get a
chance to talk to Bingo Emmons about some of the
questions that I have and people have sent me over
you know, the last few months. We don't have time
to talk about some of the things that they do
Creative Construction of Wisconsin, and so this this show for
(35:03):
me is great. Big O Mmons my coast and special guest,
and we'll talk about the word special during the break.
This is the Creative Construction Wisconsin Home improvement show on
Fox Sports nine twenty in your iHeart Radio app. Welcome
back to the Creative Construction Wisconsin Homie Prova Shore on
Fox Sports nine twenty in your iHeartRadio App. I'm Mike
(35:23):
McGivern alongside Bingo Emmons. He's the owner of Creative Construction
of Wisconsin. Hey, another big show coming up, the Home
and Gardens Show March twenty first through the thirtieth. It's
a long show. They're closed Monday and Tuesday. But you
guys are part of that.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Oh yeah, we're part of that. We're prot of a
step beyond Green. You know I'm doing We're doing some
of the seminars on the stage and then on the
big stage on Saturday. It's gonna be Aaron's gonna the
biggest crowd ever because you know, he started doing a
little bit at the NBA show. Yeah, and people like like, oh, well,
you know, people like, hey, I want to hear him again.
I want to hear him again. So he's trying to
be requested.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Good for him. Yeah, he's you know what, when he
comes and sits in for you, he's very comfortable in
this setting and does a really good job and has
a good sense of humor, ask good questions and it
don surprise me that he is, Uh, he's being requested.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Hey, the thing is because he brings Shelby. It could
be when you bring Shelby. Trust me, it's like bringing
a puppy.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Don't It is a little bit. You're kind of right, Hey,
it is the The Home of Garden Show is huge, right,
and I know that there takes.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Up the whole building. It's the biggest. It's everything start
the biggest. But they really are the biggest, and.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
They've been doing it. This is the nation's longest running
Home and Gardens show, ninety ninth annual. Really there's Home
and Garden Show and I know, look, Narry is more
home improvement, right, and this is the Garden Show has
a lot to do with it without a lot of
It's a lot.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Of the same people, the pain same people. To say
that the Narry Show will be there, the same people
that the NBA show will be there, more of them.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
And you'll you guys have a booth there.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Yes, we have a you'll be we'll be in with
a Step Beyond Green group of Jonathan and you know
and all the other friends from they care about healthy homes.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Yeah, Jai, Well, my wife made a comment last night
about Jonathan. She said, you know, since we've moved into
this condo, you seem to like have a cold more often.
You we need to get our ducks cleaned. So I
got a call Downavan Jordans and have them come out.
But it's interesting because she brought up Jonathan. She said, look,
since we moved here, you know both of us have
(37:34):
had you know, we've probably had colds more, We've sneezed more.
We need to figure out why. Maybe have your guy
come out. I go, my guy, she said, yeah, that
guy that did the Healthy Home guy go, that's Jonathan.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
There's a there's a wellness person. It just works with
the mold and when people get are sick all the
time and can't figure why. She does this really good
test and she gets a really good deal when you're
at the show. So I'm sure she'll be there. She's
doing a really good deal at the show. And to
find out people are are more uh, I mean what
happened after a while. For mold gets to be around
for so long, your body builds immune system the whole step.
(38:06):
That's how Step beyond Green got started, right, because people
are getting mold and everything, it's just all the other
chemicals and problems. You know, we just about water doctors
and things. There's all stuff that we do to help
you make your home healthier. I mean, for a while,
people are just building stuff as fast as he could.
Now what the what what they do is just help
homes to be healthier. Anyways, that mold, the mold thing.
(38:26):
People are getting sick all the time. It's a real thing.
And people are because more people are seeing to be
more sick than before and they can't figure out what
it is. And when you get out done figured out there,
they're allergic to something and they get something that mold
builds it to something. It turns out that some when
Sam had a leak in the barn, right right, Uh,
some of the mold got hate moldy right, So they
(38:47):
had ripped that data getrid of it because she just
can't be around that much mold, right, I mean, they
have to get rid of it. I mean. And it's
not just it's other people. You know, there's a lot
of people that have these mold problems. So and yeah,
and there's a la you know, and Jonathan's Uja could
talk about electrical waves, right, people have a headache all
the time. They can't forget what's going on, and then they,
you know, turn the Wi Fi off, don't and turn
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the wife off every night and the headache go away.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
So I get a picture sent to me. You standing
outside touching a building. Where was that?
Speaker 3 (39:19):
You know?
Speaker 2 (39:20):
I was like two hundred years old?
Speaker 1 (39:21):
You look good? Bad, you look really good. Where where
do you have any idea where that is?
Speaker 2 (39:28):
That looks like probably Eater of Spain Spain or something.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Yeah, well, I yeah, Bingo analyzed it actually in Savannah, Georgia.
Savantaid that house from the eighteen hundreds to and I said,
are you guys on vacation? She goes, yeah, we are,
But Bingo is analyzing the house from the eighteen hundred.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
That's what that's what jests He's go up to there.
You know what? You want to touch it? You know
you want to touch it. I touch it, But you
gotta think about the person that worked on it. It's
been dead for almost two undred years.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
You look good there. How long ago was that? You know?
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Probably about three or four years ago?
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Yeah, well you look good now that that is for sure?
Hey for for you? How much speaking are you doing
or how are you still to You're not doing classes anymore.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
They don't. They went online. There, he went online, so
I kind of lost my gig on it, and I
did to someone online. I can't do online because I
like interaction with people. I like being with people, and
we do online. You know, all of a sudden, you
see a picture of them. Then he got a picture
of like a cat or something. And because they're you know,
they're not even there anymore, right right, You hear them
in the other room talking. You forgot to turn the
(40:32):
mic off, right, or they're making dinner.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
You know, you know, I mean, I've got more pictures
of you right now. I'm vacation. No, she's she's making
zucchini bread for us for next week. I think I
appreciate it. Hey, Froles. There you go the Home and
Gardens Show that we were talking about a little bit
about some information on that Friday, March twenty first through Sunday,
(40:56):
March thirtieth, and go online and you can take a
look at at the times because they're closed on Monday
and Tuesday, but open Friday, Saturday Sunday, so two weekends,
and look at the times. You can buy your tickets online.
Save yourself, Save yourself some money that that is stay for.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
And you can come there because Debbie, it's it's two weekends.
On the weekend, Debbie's she's retually mad at me by
the following weekend. But Debbie will be there every day.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
She wanted to see you her know that she sent
me a text USh years and now she knows now,
so deb But if you want to meet Devi and uh,
I would definitely make the trip over there just to
hang out with her for a while.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
Friday, March twenty whatever people.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Meet with her to go. You know, I just figured
it because I was here. She won't be on here.
She'll be mad about She's like the nicest person in
the world, but you will not.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
She will not come. I wish she was here today
because we'd have some time to talk to her.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
She was sitting behind you and should be kicking it.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
She would not. She won't come in studio and look,
I don't get it because she's very entertaining and says
what on her mind, which which I absolutely love. Hey
for people that come to see you at the Home
and Gardens show or is it mostly small inside jobs
or is it outdoor?
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Most of the time they walk by the booth and
you go, oh, I didn't know there's still a plaster alive,
right right right? And then we always got the famous
woodpicker displayed that stuf there and he goes, oh my gosh,
you guys fixies, give me your card. Uh, never mind,
just here's my address, Come and do it. I mean,
they're just so they're so excited that there's still a
guy that can still do this stuff.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
Hey, how much percentage of business stucckle to plaster to
to others? Right? Water damage something else? Like how much
percentage wise is the kind of business for creative construction
of Wisconsin?
Speaker 2 (42:44):
Most of our stuff is damage, you know. You know,
then cell phones came out, and you know, in the
whole car problem or having people keep driving in people's houses,
you know, I mean there's I just I got wonder.
It's like I saw this picture the air and his
airings us like, how fast were they going? It's undred
years off the road and he hit the living room
right man? How what were he doing? How they and
(43:06):
he said, well they missed the driveway. It's nowhere near it.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
How much? Yeah, you can't ask questions? Do you get
called from insurance companies? A lot.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Yes, Yeah, we get call from insurance company because they
say people, you know, we need a price. We need
someone to put some moneys together. I do a lot
of stuff with that. We just just Zach just finished
one for Paul Davis.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
We do a lot of stuff with Killman Services.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Kelman is a company I do some work with through
the mcgivers.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Just I was just we just had an after five
with them on Tuesday. Really and Joseph, Yeah, I know
Joseph and for a long time, twenty I don't know,
he's probably been there forever.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
Yeah, that company. I'm a huge fan of Calman Restoration.
And it's interesting because I didn't know a lot about them,
and and so I needed to kind of learn their
business and the idea of restoring instead of repairing, similar
to what you said about Creative Construction Wisconsin. Very sick
mission statement for the people at Calmet. If you're looking
(44:03):
to repair it, maybe we're not the company. If you're
looking to restore it, we're the company to call.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Yeah, that's what they just called me a little while
ago about you know, somebod hit a car a chicken
wing place. I don't want to you know, rip on
the people, right, But it was someone hit someone ran
into the front of the building, right, And that's what
they called me up there, and that's what they call
me up to, says, I just want you to do
all of it. Just do it all, just because it's
all your work anyways. Just give me a price, do
the whole thing. You know.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
It's interesting is how I got involved with them is
their golf outing. I've been the last couple of years.
Dave Marquis from Nationwide, Florida, and I grew up and
he invites me to his his uh his foursome, which
I really appreciate. But they, I mean, the Calmet Restoration
golf outing is different. They they they've got big pipes
that come through they they they pray together before they
(44:50):
get out of the golf course. It's it's different to
raising money for the Calman Foundation. The last two years
I've been part of that has been really really impressive
to me. And now we're but give her at Agency
started to do some some digital and broadcasting branding for
them because they haven't done a lot of that over there.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
Yeah, they haven't invited us for a while, but a
couple years ago we sponsored a whole farm and if
you we got it, we you know, a gift card
from home debor or something. Yeah, we did some stuff
with them beyond. But now as ex golfing, I mean seriously,
I'm surprised that you know I'm signed up yet.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
Yeah, we will. I'll make sure that he gets the information. Bengo,
thanks for allowing us to do this this week, and
we'll have Jason from JJ Contractors in in a couple
of months.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
He's uh, he said, he's never ever ever, doesn't never
happened to him in his whole entire life.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
And that what he said.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
He goes, I've never done this. I owe you big apologizing.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
It worked out okay though. It gave us a chance
to kind of highlight and do a reset look and
thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
Had you got Thomas owes you dinner at the Eleanor.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
Yes he does.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
And you know what we did. That was live, That
was Bingo talking. So Jason, you're listening, I got to
get over there and have dinner. It's thank thank you
so much. Have a good week, and thanks for sponsoring
this show. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
Well, thanks for having me on every week. You got it,
You're always a new adventure.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
You were Aaron Good co host. We get to a break.
Other side of the break, we're talking high school sports.
It's playoff time both girls basketball and boys basketball, and
we'll start to break that down.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Why an't we talking about Nascar?
Speaker 1 (46:20):
No, I think in six weeks I'll get back down.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
That Indy cars start tomorrow, just so you know.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
No, I know that. Yeah, I've already recorded it.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
I might.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
I have no idea. This is the creative construction of
Wisconsin Home Improvement show on Fox Sports Side twenty in
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