June 12, 2025 • 34 mins
Joe Biden Open Door Policy with Immigration.
Chinese Student Visa
Marco Rubio vowed to revoke Chinese student visas, Trump now says Chinese students are welcome.
Jesse talks about the importance of securing the border.
Some of the wealthy elites rely on immigrant workers to work for less.
Chinese Student Visa
Marco Rubio vowed to revoke Chinese student visas, Trump now says Chinese students are welcome.
Jesse talks about the importance of securing the border.
Some of the wealthy elites rely on immigrant workers to work for less.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's perfect end to your day. Jesse Kelly on seven
good Jesse Kelly shin let's have some fun on a Thursday.
(00:22):
I am so unreasonably excited for tonight's shows, So allow
me to prepare you with some programming notes for what
you are in store for in that rhyme. And that
was great. I didn't even do it on purpose. Don't
shake your head, Chris. We are going to discuss Trump's
comments today about deportations, about legal immigration versus illegal immigration,
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about allowing Chinese students to stay. We're gonna discuss those
because you apparently have some problems with them, and I'm
going to talk about that. Yes, I'm going to get
to that. We're going to discuss other things. You see.
We're gonna talk about Republicans doing some campaigning from the
House of Representatives, Democrats trying to thread the needle with
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Middle America, and the crazies. Another Democrat, a United States Senator,
gets himself arrested. We'll talk about the performative nonsense that
is the beating art of the Democrat Party. But I'm
not even as excited about all that stuff as I
am about hour two, because at the start of hour two.
(01:29):
I've decided I'm done talking about riots for a night.
We're doing some history. I don't know how long it
will go. I truly doubt I will finish it in
an hour. I'll try, but I don't know. We're gonna
do some history tonight. Alexander the Great War. It's gonna
be awesome. And tomorrow's ask doctor Jesse Friday. So get
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your questions emailed in right now to Jesse at Jesse
kellyshow dot com. Okay, So a lot of people are
angry at Donald Trump today. Who are those people? I mean,
I have a bunch of emails, a lot of them
like this the oracle. I saw Trump's post this morning
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regarding illegals working on farms and in hotels. It shows
how much further we have to go. Any business owner
knowingly employing illegals should be arrested for committing crimes against
his countrymen. Now more than ever. I believe you when
you say America will elect a right wing dictator. So, okay,
in case you're wondering what he said, what Donald Trump
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said publicly, this is what he said. Quote our great farmers,
in people in hotel, in the hotel and leisure business
have been stating that our very aggressive policy on immigration
is taking very good, longtime workers away from them, with
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those jobs being almost impossible to replace. In many cases,
the criminals allowed into the country by the very stupid
Biden open borders policy are applying for those jobs. This
is not good. We must protect our farmers, but get
the criminals out of the USA. Changes are coming, okay.
(03:22):
He verbalized that at a press conference today. Here he
was if you look to that.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Put out a statement today about farmers. Our farmers are
being hurt badly by you know, they have very good workers.
They've worked for him for twenty years. They're not citizens,
but they've turned out to be, you know, great, and
we're gonna have to do something about that. We can't
take farmers and take all their people and send them
back because they don't have maybe what they're supposed to have,
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maybe not. And you know, what's going to happen, and
what is happening They get rid of some of the
people because you know, you go into a farm and
you look and people don't They've been there for twenty
twenty five years and they've worked great, and the owner
of the farm loves them and everything else, and then
you're supposed to throw them out, and you know what happens.
They end up hiring the people, the criminals that have
come in, the murderers from prisons and everything else. So
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we're we're gonna have an order on that pretty soon.
I think we can't do that to a farmer's and
leisure too hotels. We're gonna have to use a lot
of common sense on that.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Okay, that actually pairs well. Apparently it was one of
those days with comments Trump made today about China. You
remember this is probably last week. The week before, Marco
Rubio and Trump were making a lot of noise about
how we're getting rid of these Chinese student visas. Chinese
students are going to have to go. They've got to go,
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We're done with all this. And then yesterday they announced
that they've struck some kind of a deal with China
and that the Chinese students get to stay. And Trump
said this today.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I've always been in favor of students coming and from
other countries, that includes China, and we have five hundred
thousand Chinese students coming in. I've always been in favor
of it. Does it mean that you have to watch
people yeah, you have to watch students, but you have
to watch other people also. I've always been strongly in
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favor of it. I think it's a great thing. It's
also it's good for our schools. It's good for I
think it's good for our country. I'm also in favor
of having them stay. I've been in favor of letting
them stay. If you get educated for four years, you're
willing to get educated for four years. I like people
being able to stay. You know, they have some great students.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah, okay, if you are that, if you are in
immigration hawk, in all the way hawk, these kind of
comments have you getting ready to blow a gasket. And
full disclosure, anyone who's been listening for a while knows this.
(05:59):
I am an immigran hawk, to put it mildly, and
when I say hawk, here's what I mean. Here's what
I mean, because a lot of people like to pretend
to be that because it helps you get elected and
things like that. When I say immigration hawk, I'm talking
about the kind of person who believes a country should
do anything and everything to secure its borders and stop
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illegals from coming in. But wait a minute, wait a minute,
that's just one part of it, another part of it.
Part two. That's part one, Part one, securing the border.
There's more to being an immigration hawk. Part two is
mass deportation of every illegal in the country. If you
are here illegally, man, woman, child, criminal record from Guatemala,
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or not at all, if you were here in the
country illegally. In immigration hawk, a tried and true immigration
hawk like me, once you arrested and deported immediately. But wait,
there's more. One more. It takes three things to be
a true immigration hawk. And I'm not saying you have
to be one. Maybe you disagree on this, but if
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you're if someone tells me they're an immigration hawk, I
expect these three things. The third one is legal immigration restrictions,
a lot of them. Oh. I'm not against all forms
of legal immigration, of course, but the mass importation of
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foreigners doesn't magically become wonderful just because some politician makes
it legal. That's how you wreck your culture. People can
come here, it should be hard, it should take a
long time, it should never happen in mass Hey, let's
get fifty thousand people from Somalia. That'll be enriching. No, no, no,
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it wasn't bad. Idea a true immigration hawk believes in
securing the border, deep illegals, in restrictions on legal immigration.
That's what a true immigration hawk believes. And again I'm
not saying that you have to be one, but if
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you tell me that's what you are, that's what I
expect out of you. Now, let's discuss Donald Trump's comments today.
We are going to discuss this with some nuance. Not
because I'm trying to be nuanced, after all, it's me.
I'm about as nuanced as a sledgehammer, but because the
situation here is nuanced for a variety of different reasons.
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And we're going to discuss all of this, and then
we'll do some more politics and then you can kick
back and put your feet up and we'll talk about
Alexander the Great Deal. Okay, First, Donald Trump is not
an immigration hawk. I allow me to explain. I want
me to explain. We on the right, we have been underserved.
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Anyone who believes in immigration hawkishness has been underserved by
the Republican Party for ages ages a bunch of amnesty
love and open borders weenies. Therefore, whenever a Republican, whoever
they are, a governor, a senator, Donald Trump himself. Whenever
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a Republican starts speaking tough and speaking plainly about immigration,
we we fall in love really really fast, really fast.
It's like it's like when you're on deployment in the
Marines and you haven't seen a woman for six months,
and you get to go visit an Air Force base
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and out around the corner comes this manatee and it's
the most beautiful thing you've ever seen in your life.
Why because you've been starved of female attention and affection
for six months. Anything that's a woman looks good. The
exact same thing happens with Republican voters. We have been
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screwed so many times by so many of our reps
and so many of our presidents, over and over and
over again. The second Donald Trump comes down an escalator
and says, Mexico's not said in their best These are
a bunch of dirt balls and drug dealers and things
like that. We sit back and say, oh gosh, finally
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someone speaking my language. And we wrap our arms around
them and we say, look, I finally have my immigration hawk.
But there's what you want, and then there's reality. Now,
let's discuss reality. It is the Jesse Kelly Show on
a Fantastic Thursday, as we churn through the week. In
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case you're just now joining us, we're discussing Donald Trump's
today comments today on legal immigration, on the illegals that
are working for farms, that are working for you mentioned
the leisure industry that are working for for hotels, and
I am explaining what's going on. I'm talking about these commeds.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Look to statement today about farmers. Our farmers are being
hurt badly by you know, they have very good workers,
they've worked for him for twenty years. They're not citizens.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Yeah, I'm not going to go into the whole thing again.
He says, Hey, we do. You have to figure something out.
We're going to be doing something soon. So these illegals
who've been here for a long time can stay. Immigration hawks.
If you are one, you're mad. If you're not, you
don't care. If you're an immigration hawk, you're mad. So
I'm explaining we've been underserved as Republican voters by the
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GOP forever when it comes to illegal immigration. Donald Trump
has spoken our language on illegal immigration. So, Donald Trump,
what has happened is people see what they want to see.
It's human nature. We all see what we want to see,
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especially with people we like, people we love even we
do it with spouses, we do it with our children,
we do it with When you love something, you tend
to see it in the light you want to see
it in and not always in reality. Donald Trump is
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not now, nor has he ever been, in immigration hawk
in the sense of the word I describe before. He
is a border hawk, and he should be applauded for that.
He is somebody who believes in stopping the flow of
illegal illegal immigration. He has done so in his first
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four years. He did it, and he did it immediately
after taking over this four years. He believes in one
of the three right there, border security. On to the
second part of it. Remember there's three things, security, deporting illegals,
restricting legal immigration. When it comes to border security, he's
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an A plus dynamite and should be applauded for it.
Now number two, deporting illegals, he's not an A plus,
He's a B plus meaning Donald Trump wants the murderers,
the rapists, the gang members rounded up and deported. And
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to his credit, he has expanded on that. Friends, family members,
He is sending ice and he deserves all the credit
in the world for this. He is sending ice onto
construction sites, he's sending ice into workplaces, and he's rounding
up illegals as fast as he can round them up,
and he's deporting them. But the reason he's a B
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plus and not an A plus is well, I mean,
if you've been here for a while, it's okay. Now
you may agree with him on that, by the way,
but I'm explaining what he actually is, not what you
want him to be, not what I want him to be.
We're here to discuss reality. No more mommy time, it's
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daddy time. He's a plus on the border security, he's
a B plus on deporting illegals. And look, let's pause
for a second. If we have to defend him, sorry,
but I'm in a great mood. I'm gonna defend him.
B plus is better than we've had for a long
time now. When it comes to legal immigration, Donald Trump
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is a D maybe even an F if you're an
immigration hawk. He does not agree with you on that.
He has had. The people are mad about the things
he said today about he wants more Chinese students here,
he wants the farm illegals to stay, he wants this.
Donald Trump has a long history of public comments where
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he has said these things before. He's talked about stamping
granting citizenship when you graduate college. He's talked about more
H one B visas, which are not these super heady
technologically advanced visas. Not at all. If you want a restriction,
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want restrictions on legal immigration, Donald Trump does not agree
with you. People pretend he does because he's pretty good
on the other two aspects of it. But he's never
been that guy. We pretended, or maybe you pretended, maybe
you didn't, But he's never been that guy. And the
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reason when I heard him say that today, I didn't
get outraged, even though I disagree with him. I didn't
get outraged because I never thought he was that guy.
I never projected my beliefs onto Donald Trump, my beliefs
on legal immigration and how it should be handled. I
never projected those onto him. What his are, I know
what mine are. We differ on that. He's pretty good
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on the other two. Therefore I like it so far. Now,
I was not trying to offer an excuse. I really
genuinely wasn't. I was simply explaining how Donald Trump actually
looks at immigration, legal and illegal. And the reason I
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was explaining it is just like I said, people project.
It's human nature to project. Trump's our guy, make America
great again. He's saving the country. So you take all
your hopes and dreams and you dump them in Donald
Trump's lap, and then you say, wow, look he shares
my hopes and dreams. Now you put him there. He
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didn't ask for them. That said that wasn't making an excuse,
That was stating an obvious fact. Allow me to offer
a bit of an explanation. Maybe you're sitting there squirming
in your chair. Allow me to offer an explanation that's
a little bit more in depth. And then maybe we'll
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do a couple other things before history. All right, hang on,
It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful Thursday,
reminding you that Fridays on The Jesse Kelly Show belong
to you. You can email your questions in all three hours.
I answer whatever you email in right now to Jesse
at Jesse kellyshow dot com. Ask me anything, doesn't have
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to be political. Fridays are always a wild, really good
time here on the Jesse Kelly Show. Now back to
we already discussed Trump and immigration, hawks and his comments
today about the farm and leisure industry. All right, let's
expand this a little bit more. Hey, Chris, if you
don't mind grab that student visa, the Chinese student visa
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comments Trump made today. This will come back to the
legal immigration, illegal im gration talk. Just stay with me
on something. Just before you play these, remember that we
are fresh off the heels of a lot of tough
talk from the Trump administration. Rubio and these guys about
Chinese students, Chinese student visas, that these things, hey, that
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we're kicking out these Chinese students. China uses these students
for espionage, which they do, and you know that was
what they were telling us, which anyone who knows knows
that's true. China is using these for espionage. We're canceling
these Chinese student visas. We've had enough of this stuff.
And then Trump gets up today and says this.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
I've always been in favor of students coming in from
other countries, that includes China, and we have five hundred
thousand Chinese students coming in. I've always been in favor
of it. Does it mean that you have to watch people, Yeah,
you have to watch students, but you have to watch
other people. Also, I've always been strongly in favor of it.
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I think it's a great thing. It's also it's good
for our schools, it's good for I think it's good.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
For We got it. We got it. Every immigration hawk
or somebody concerned about China or Chinese espionage is sitting
there wincing, and so I am not going to offer
an excuse, but I am going to offer an explanation
if you will. China. Remember, remember we discussed the London
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negotiations that just happened with China. Trump said. Trump sent
his big boy envoys, the ones he clearly trusts and
relies upon, guys like Howard Lutnick, sent them over to
neutral territory in London, where they sat down with China
to work out some sort of a deal or start
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working out some sort of a deal. And I know
this sounds like I'm changing the subject. Believe me, I'm not.
This is all going to come back together. So stay
with me. Let's discuss again what the situation is. The
situation is that Trump adminished Trump's people. They have said
repeatedly that they want to reshore America's manufacturing. They want
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to bring manufacturing back here and take it away from China.
That's what they've said China vice versa. Their entire economy
rests on manufacturing everything. So Trump's stated goals of restoring
American manufacturing when he says that, he might as well
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come out and say, what I want is to destroy
the Chinese economy. That's how cross purpose those two goals are. Okay,
you're with me still, that's the setup, and we reached
a real nasty impasse with China. Howard Lutnik, Trump's guys,
they go over there, they come back and say, woo,
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we have kind of a deal, at least the start
of a deal with it. In the very least, hostility
have ceased, and voila. The next day, Donald Trump gets
up and announces that he loves all these Chinese students.
He's just really happy that they're all here, and they
should all come and go to Harvard. Not that the
develop what's going on? Donald Trump? For any desires he
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may have of reassoring American manufacturing and making trade more
even and whatnot, he is still a president and not
a king. A president and not a king, and frankly,
even kings, most of them, their power was limited but
let's focus on what we're talking about here. He's not
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a king. He can have all the desires he wants
about American manufacturing and American workers and they have more
fair trade, and he can want a million different things.
He is, however, limited. There is a ceiling on just
how much of it he can get done, because the
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powers of the presidency are limited. Therefore, you can get
out there on the campaign trail and you can say
things like we're going to bring all this manufacturing back
and we're going to take it to China. But reality
has a way of smacking around campaign promises. Because here's reality.
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When Donald Trump first started hammering China with these tariffs
a little bit ago, remember that little dip in the
stock market, Remember the mass panic. Everybody picked up their
phone and checked their four oh one k and then
freaked out and called their mother. Remember all that. What
was that? Let me tell you what it was. That
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was the global financial system putting I'm gonna say this
in a way that might offend you. Remember if you're offended,
I don't give a crap. That was the global financial
system putting Donald Trump in his place. That was the
global financial system telling Donald Trump uh. You may be
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the most powerful person on the planet. You may be
the president of the United States of America. You don't
get to upset the apple cart for how the world's
finances run. That was the global financial system saying hey, mister,
not so fast and not so far, you better slow down.
And you notice thirty seconds after that, hey, we got
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a ninety day truce with China. While we work things out.
You can want to reshore manufacturing, you can want to
make things here, you can want all the right things,
you can have the right goals in mind. But you
are still, as a president, as any elected political leader
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in this country, you are still confined by the system,
by the political system, by our current laws, by the
financial system, by the system that has been put into
place over years and years and years, a system that
you now have to work with, whether or not you
like that system or dislike that system. If I am
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made the head basketball coach of the local school, of
the local high school, and I promise people when they
hire me, when they're thinking about hiring me, I'm going
to go in a state championship in the first year.
Just hire me. Coach Kelly will take you to the
promised Land, We're going to win a state championship. I
give you my word, and then I take over the
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team and I find out it's a bunch of five
foot six white kids who can't run and can't jump
and aren't very good at basketball. Well, I mean, it
doesn't matter. If I'm Bobby Knight and John I wouldn't
all rolled up into won. It doesn't matter how much
I want to win that state championship. And I do
want to win that state championship, and I'm gonna bust
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my butt to make sure it happens. We're not gonna
win the state championship, not with a bunch of five
six white kids. It's not gonna happen. What, Chris, is
that offensive? Is it? I didn't mean it to be.
Everyone knows what I mean. The presidency, its powers are limited. Now.
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That brought me back to the discussion of why all
this talk today, why this public announcement, Why did we
wake up and we're seeing Donald Trump? Our great farmers
and people in hotel and leisure have been stating our
very aggressive policy on immigration is taking a very good,
longtime workers away from them and those jobs are impossible
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to replace. In fact, that criminals are getting hired, which
is kind of bullcrap, but still, why did we wake
up to this? Well, that's going to bring us right
back to the conversation we just had about the limits
of the powers of the presidency. I'll finish this up
in a moment. Hang on, it is the Jesse Kelly Show.
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You're lucky. I just didn't let that song play. I'll
tell you that right now on a wonderful, wonderful Thursday.
Remember if you miss any part of the show, he
could download the whole thing. iHeart spotify iTunes. Now let's
round out this long discussion about what Trump said about
the illegal farm workers and hotel workers and all the
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other stuff, and then we're walking away from politics. I'm
about rioted out. I'm politics out for the day. We're
about to go talk about some Alexander the Great. I
take that back. In the final hour. We'll probably come
back and do some more politics, but just a warning.
Consider this your warning. Now I'm about to divert right
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off politics and everything else, and I'm going deep into
history about ten minutes from now. I don't know when
I'm pulling out again. So there you go. I don't
know when I'm gonna stop talking about that I got.
I'll put it to you that way. I don't need
these looks, Chris, what Donald Trump said about illegal immigration, farmers, hotels, leisure.
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I've discussed this thing with you before. Let me remind
you again that I ran for Congress a couple times
in Arizona. I was the Republican nominee for Congress a
couple times. And when you're running for Congress, certainly once
you earn the Republican nomination, every single area is the same.
It doesn't matter what area you're listening to me from.
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There is a cabal of wealthy Republicans in your area,
and they usually know each other, work with each other,
and they are considered bundlers. We called them bundlers. The
National Republican Party calls them that. The Democrat Party calls
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them that too. They have their own Your area has
this wealthy cabal of Republican donors who will raise you
money to get you elected to the state House or
state senator, mayor or congress or senator or whatever. And
look like if you're running for president, you'll have different
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pockets of these people in the different areas all across
the country. George W. Bush. Here's a little tidbit you
may not know. George W. Bush had this, and he
had a name for them. They were considered because George W.
Bush is a Texan and everyone knows what the Texas
Rangers are. They were called Rangers Bush's Rangers. If you
were a wealthy Republican donor who bundled a lot of
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money for George Bush, I forget what the number was,
how much you had to raise, you got the title
of and I'm sure you also got a cell phone number.
That's how it works. Okay, you got it.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
You with me.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Well, I'm running for Congress in Arizona. These Republican donors,
almost every one of them. They're business owners, different kinds
of businesses, hotels, restaurant tours. I found so fancy when
I say that Chris leisure industry. They met with me
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when they were considering whether or not they were going
to support my run for Congress. It was still a
primary at the time, and they weren't really interested in
my tax stance. They didn't really care whether I was
pro life or or kill them all let God sort
them out. They were interested in my stance on illegal immigration,
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and they were very concerned that I meant the things
I was saying back then about deporting every single illegal
and securing the border. When they found out I was
dead serious about that, they chose to bundle for somebody else. This,
by the way, explains why there are so many Republicans
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in Congress, James Langford and others who are so open
borders and always end up siding with the Democrats on it.
The truth is, money is the lifeblood of politics. You
don't get elected to any position without raising some of it.
You don't have to raise the most of it, that's
a lie, but you've got to raise some. Even at
city council, small city council rate, you're it's gonna take
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some money. You're gonna need some to raise some money
for mailers and bumper stickers. It takes some money. The
wealthy people who support Republicans for president not all of
them at all, So don't think I'm indicting everybody. But
many of the wealthy people who support Republicans for President
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and House and Senate. They are business leaders who rely
on immigrant workers to keep the labor costs down. Sometimes
those immigrant workers they rely on are legal, Oftentimes they
are not legal oftentimes at my fancy Republican resort, Jesse
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Kelly Resort and SPA. Please come on, well, spend some
time by the fool by the pool, enjoy our five restaurants.
We'll give your wife a facial. All this kind of thing. Well,
I've I've got five hundred employees who work there. Two
hundred and fifty of them are illegals. I got them
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washing the rooms, I got them doing the dishes, I
got them cleaning the pool. We're not gonna let them
give your wife a facial. But you understand what I mean.
That's the dirty little secret. And so here is what happened.
We'll call this a guess if you will. Donald Trump's
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phone has been ringing when he turned ice all the
way loose. And Tom Holman is a guy he used,
an immigration hawk in every sense of the word. Tom
Holman will deport his own mother if he finds out
she's here illegally. That's why I love him. Tom Holman's
been sending ice on freaking construction sites. Tom Homer will
kick in the door of your restaurant and deport everybody there.
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Donald Trump's phone has been ringing, and not from people
like you, or people like me, people with large bank
accounts who write large checks. Probably people who have done
business with Donald Trump many times before, have been calling
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and texting and saying, hey, mister President, hmm, I got
a hotel. I'm trying to keep profitable here. You just
deported a bunch of my guys. Now you can say,
as I would say, too bad, so sad. But this
is what happens when you see it's been years getting
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your economy addicted to the drug of illegal immigration. It
is a drug. It is an addictive drug, and we
are hooked on it as a nation. Getting us off
of that drug it can't happen all at once, much
as I want it to. We're going to have to
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wean ourselves off of it by electing border hawk after
border hawk after border hawk who will take the necessary steps.
That's why Donald Trump came out today and said what
he said. I know that doesn't ease your anger. I
get it. I disagree with him too, but that is
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what happened. I'm tired of politics. I'm going to talk
about history for an hour, maybe more. I don't care.
It's my show. If you don't like it, now would
be a good time. To change the channel because we're
about to go back to ancient history. One of the
most fascinating sieges I've ever studied in my lifetime
It's perfect end to your day. Jesse Kelly on seven
good Jesse Kelly shin let's have some fun on a Thursday.
(00:22):
I am so unreasonably excited for tonight's shows, So allow
me to prepare you with some programming notes for what
you are in store for in that rhyme. And that
was great. I didn't even do it on purpose. Don't
shake your head, Chris. We are going to discuss Trump's
comments today about deportations, about legal immigration versus illegal immigration,
(00:46):
about allowing Chinese students to stay. We're gonna discuss those
because you apparently have some problems with them, and I'm
going to talk about that. Yes, I'm going to get
to that. We're going to discuss other things. You see.
We're gonna talk about Republicans doing some campaigning from the
House of Representatives, Democrats trying to thread the needle with
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Middle America, and the crazies. Another Democrat, a United States Senator,
gets himself arrested. We'll talk about the performative nonsense that
is the beating art of the Democrat Party. But I'm
not even as excited about all that stuff as I
am about hour two, because at the start of hour two.
(01:29):
I've decided I'm done talking about riots for a night.
We're doing some history. I don't know how long it
will go. I truly doubt I will finish it in
an hour. I'll try, but I don't know. We're gonna
do some history tonight. Alexander the Great War. It's gonna
be awesome. And tomorrow's ask doctor Jesse Friday. So get
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your questions emailed in right now to Jesse at Jesse
kellyshow dot com. Okay, So a lot of people are
angry at Donald Trump today. Who are those people? I mean,
I have a bunch of emails, a lot of them
like this the oracle. I saw Trump's post this morning
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regarding illegals working on farms and in hotels. It shows
how much further we have to go. Any business owner
knowingly employing illegals should be arrested for committing crimes against
his countrymen. Now more than ever. I believe you when
you say America will elect a right wing dictator. So, okay,
in case you're wondering what he said, what Donald Trump
(02:39):
said publicly, this is what he said. Quote our great farmers,
in people in hotel, in the hotel and leisure business
have been stating that our very aggressive policy on immigration
is taking very good, longtime workers away from them, with
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those jobs being almost impossible to replace. In many cases,
the criminals allowed into the country by the very stupid
Biden open borders policy are applying for those jobs. This
is not good. We must protect our farmers, but get
the criminals out of the USA. Changes are coming, okay.
(03:22):
He verbalized that at a press conference today. Here he
was if you look to that.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Put out a statement today about farmers. Our farmers are
being hurt badly by you know, they have very good workers.
They've worked for him for twenty years. They're not citizens,
but they've turned out to be, you know, great, and
we're gonna have to do something about that. We can't
take farmers and take all their people and send them
back because they don't have maybe what they're supposed to have,
(03:50):
maybe not. And you know, what's going to happen, and
what is happening They get rid of some of the
people because you know, you go into a farm and
you look and people don't They've been there for twenty
twenty five years and they've worked great, and the owner
of the farm loves them and everything else, and then
you're supposed to throw them out, and you know what happens.
They end up hiring the people, the criminals that have
come in, the murderers from prisons and everything else. So
(04:12):
we're we're gonna have an order on that pretty soon.
I think we can't do that to a farmer's and
leisure too hotels. We're gonna have to use a lot
of common sense on that.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Okay, that actually pairs well. Apparently it was one of
those days with comments Trump made today about China. You
remember this is probably last week. The week before, Marco
Rubio and Trump were making a lot of noise about
how we're getting rid of these Chinese student visas. Chinese
students are going to have to go. They've got to go,
(04:46):
We're done with all this. And then yesterday they announced
that they've struck some kind of a deal with China
and that the Chinese students get to stay. And Trump
said this today.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I've always been in favor of students coming and from
other countries, that includes China, and we have five hundred
thousand Chinese students coming in. I've always been in favor
of it. Does it mean that you have to watch
people yeah, you have to watch students, but you have
to watch other people also. I've always been strongly in
(05:18):
favor of it. I think it's a great thing. It's
also it's good for our schools. It's good for I
think it's good for our country. I'm also in favor
of having them stay. I've been in favor of letting
them stay. If you get educated for four years, you're
willing to get educated for four years. I like people
being able to stay. You know, they have some great students.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah, okay, if you are that, if you are in
immigration hawk, in all the way hawk, these kind of
comments have you getting ready to blow a gasket. And
full disclosure, anyone who's been listening for a while knows this.
(05:59):
I am an immigran hawk, to put it mildly, and
when I say hawk, here's what I mean. Here's what
I mean, because a lot of people like to pretend
to be that because it helps you get elected and
things like that. When I say immigration hawk, I'm talking
about the kind of person who believes a country should
do anything and everything to secure its borders and stop
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illegals from coming in. But wait a minute, wait a minute,
that's just one part of it, another part of it.
Part two. That's part one, Part one, securing the border.
There's more to being an immigration hawk. Part two is
mass deportation of every illegal in the country. If you
are here illegally, man, woman, child, criminal record from Guatemala,
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or not at all, if you were here in the
country illegally. In immigration hawk, a tried and true immigration
hawk like me, once you arrested and deported immediately. But wait,
there's more. One more. It takes three things to be
a true immigration hawk. And I'm not saying you have
to be one. Maybe you disagree on this, but if
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you're if someone tells me they're an immigration hawk, I
expect these three things. The third one is legal immigration restrictions,
a lot of them. Oh. I'm not against all forms
of legal immigration, of course, but the mass importation of
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foreigners doesn't magically become wonderful just because some politician makes
it legal. That's how you wreck your culture. People can
come here, it should be hard, it should take a
long time, it should never happen in mass Hey, let's
get fifty thousand people from Somalia. That'll be enriching. No, no, no,
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it wasn't bad. Idea a true immigration hawk believes in
securing the border, deep illegals, in restrictions on legal immigration.
That's what a true immigration hawk believes. And again I'm
not saying that you have to be one, but if
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you tell me that's what you are, that's what I
expect out of you. Now, let's discuss Donald Trump's comments today.
We are going to discuss this with some nuance. Not
because I'm trying to be nuanced, after all, it's me.
I'm about as nuanced as a sledgehammer, but because the
situation here is nuanced for a variety of different reasons.
(08:36):
And we're going to discuss all of this, and then
we'll do some more politics and then you can kick
back and put your feet up and we'll talk about
Alexander the Great Deal. Okay, First, Donald Trump is not
an immigration hawk. I allow me to explain. I want
me to explain. We on the right, we have been underserved.
(08:58):
Anyone who believes in immigration hawkishness has been underserved by
the Republican Party for ages ages a bunch of amnesty
love and open borders weenies. Therefore, whenever a Republican, whoever
they are, a governor, a senator, Donald Trump himself. Whenever
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a Republican starts speaking tough and speaking plainly about immigration,
we we fall in love really really fast, really fast.
It's like it's like when you're on deployment in the
Marines and you haven't seen a woman for six months,
and you get to go visit an Air Force base
(09:42):
and out around the corner comes this manatee and it's
the most beautiful thing you've ever seen in your life.
Why because you've been starved of female attention and affection
for six months. Anything that's a woman looks good. The
exact same thing happens with Republican voters. We have been
(10:04):
screwed so many times by so many of our reps
and so many of our presidents, over and over and
over again. The second Donald Trump comes down an escalator
and says, Mexico's not said in their best These are
a bunch of dirt balls and drug dealers and things
like that. We sit back and say, oh gosh, finally
(10:25):
someone speaking my language. And we wrap our arms around
them and we say, look, I finally have my immigration hawk.
But there's what you want, and then there's reality. Now,
let's discuss reality. It is the Jesse Kelly Show on
a Fantastic Thursday, as we churn through the week. In
(10:46):
case you're just now joining us, we're discussing Donald Trump's
today comments today on legal immigration, on the illegals that
are working for farms, that are working for you mentioned
the leisure industry that are working for for hotels, and
I am explaining what's going on. I'm talking about these commeds.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Look to statement today about farmers. Our farmers are being
hurt badly by you know, they have very good workers,
they've worked for him for twenty years. They're not citizens.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Yeah, I'm not going to go into the whole thing again.
He says, Hey, we do. You have to figure something out.
We're going to be doing something soon. So these illegals
who've been here for a long time can stay. Immigration hawks.
If you are one, you're mad. If you're not, you
don't care. If you're an immigration hawk, you're mad. So
I'm explaining we've been underserved as Republican voters by the
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GOP forever when it comes to illegal immigration. Donald Trump
has spoken our language on illegal immigration. So, Donald Trump,
what has happened is people see what they want to see.
It's human nature. We all see what we want to see,
(11:57):
especially with people we like, people we love even we
do it with spouses, we do it with our children,
we do it with When you love something, you tend
to see it in the light you want to see
it in and not always in reality. Donald Trump is
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not now, nor has he ever been, in immigration hawk
in the sense of the word I describe before. He
is a border hawk, and he should be applauded for that.
He is somebody who believes in stopping the flow of
illegal illegal immigration. He has done so in his first
(12:46):
four years. He did it, and he did it immediately
after taking over this four years. He believes in one
of the three right there, border security. On to the
second part of it. Remember there's three things, security, deporting illegals,
restricting legal immigration. When it comes to border security, he's
(13:07):
an A plus dynamite and should be applauded for it.
Now number two, deporting illegals, he's not an A plus,
He's a B plus meaning Donald Trump wants the murderers,
the rapists, the gang members rounded up and deported. And
(13:29):
to his credit, he has expanded on that. Friends, family members,
He is sending ice and he deserves all the credit
in the world for this. He is sending ice onto
construction sites, he's sending ice into workplaces, and he's rounding
up illegals as fast as he can round them up,
and he's deporting them. But the reason he's a B
(13:51):
plus and not an A plus is well, I mean,
if you've been here for a while, it's okay. Now
you may agree with him on that, by the way,
but I'm explaining what he actually is, not what you
want him to be, not what I want him to be.
We're here to discuss reality. No more mommy time, it's
(14:11):
daddy time. He's a plus on the border security, he's
a B plus on deporting illegals. And look, let's pause
for a second. If we have to defend him, sorry,
but I'm in a great mood. I'm gonna defend him.
B plus is better than we've had for a long
time now. When it comes to legal immigration, Donald Trump
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is a D maybe even an F if you're an
immigration hawk. He does not agree with you on that.
He has had. The people are mad about the things
he said today about he wants more Chinese students here,
he wants the farm illegals to stay, he wants this.
Donald Trump has a long history of public comments where
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he has said these things before. He's talked about stamping
granting citizenship when you graduate college. He's talked about more
H one B visas, which are not these super heady
technologically advanced visas. Not at all. If you want a restriction,
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want restrictions on legal immigration, Donald Trump does not agree
with you. People pretend he does because he's pretty good
on the other two aspects of it. But he's never
been that guy. We pretended, or maybe you pretended, maybe
you didn't, But he's never been that guy. And the
(15:41):
reason when I heard him say that today, I didn't
get outraged, even though I disagree with him. I didn't
get outraged because I never thought he was that guy.
I never projected my beliefs onto Donald Trump, my beliefs
on legal immigration and how it should be handled. I
never projected those onto him. What his are, I know
what mine are. We differ on that. He's pretty good
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on the other two. Therefore I like it so far. Now,
I was not trying to offer an excuse. I really
genuinely wasn't. I was simply explaining how Donald Trump actually
looks at immigration, legal and illegal. And the reason I
(16:23):
was explaining it is just like I said, people project.
It's human nature to project. Trump's our guy, make America
great again. He's saving the country. So you take all
your hopes and dreams and you dump them in Donald
Trump's lap, and then you say, wow, look he shares
my hopes and dreams. Now you put him there. He
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didn't ask for them. That said that wasn't making an excuse,
That was stating an obvious fact. Allow me to offer
a bit of an explanation. Maybe you're sitting there squirming
in your chair. Allow me to offer an explanation that's
a little bit more in depth. And then maybe we'll
(17:07):
do a couple other things before history. All right, hang on,
It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful Thursday,
reminding you that Fridays on The Jesse Kelly Show belong
to you. You can email your questions in all three hours.
I answer whatever you email in right now to Jesse
at Jesse kellyshow dot com. Ask me anything, doesn't have
(17:30):
to be political. Fridays are always a wild, really good
time here on the Jesse Kelly Show. Now back to
we already discussed Trump and immigration, hawks and his comments
today about the farm and leisure industry. All right, let's
expand this a little bit more. Hey, Chris, if you
don't mind grab that student visa, the Chinese student visa
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comments Trump made today. This will come back to the
legal immigration, illegal im gration talk. Just stay with me
on something. Just before you play these, remember that we
are fresh off the heels of a lot of tough
talk from the Trump administration. Rubio and these guys about
Chinese students, Chinese student visas, that these things, hey, that
(18:17):
we're kicking out these Chinese students. China uses these students
for espionage, which they do, and you know that was
what they were telling us, which anyone who knows knows
that's true. China is using these for espionage. We're canceling
these Chinese student visas. We've had enough of this stuff.
And then Trump gets up today and says this.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
I've always been in favor of students coming in from
other countries, that includes China, and we have five hundred
thousand Chinese students coming in. I've always been in favor
of it. Does it mean that you have to watch people, Yeah,
you have to watch students, but you have to watch
other people. Also, I've always been strongly in favor of it.
(18:56):
I think it's a great thing. It's also it's good
for our schools, it's good for I think it's good.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
For We got it. We got it. Every immigration hawk
or somebody concerned about China or Chinese espionage is sitting
there wincing, and so I am not going to offer
an excuse, but I am going to offer an explanation
if you will. China. Remember, remember we discussed the London
(19:24):
negotiations that just happened with China. Trump said. Trump sent
his big boy envoys, the ones he clearly trusts and
relies upon, guys like Howard Lutnick, sent them over to
neutral territory in London, where they sat down with China
to work out some sort of a deal or start
(19:46):
working out some sort of a deal. And I know
this sounds like I'm changing the subject. Believe me, I'm not.
This is all going to come back together. So stay
with me. Let's discuss again what the situation is. The
situation is that Trump adminished Trump's people. They have said
repeatedly that they want to reshore America's manufacturing. They want
(20:07):
to bring manufacturing back here and take it away from China.
That's what they've said China vice versa. Their entire economy
rests on manufacturing everything. So Trump's stated goals of restoring
American manufacturing when he says that, he might as well
(20:30):
come out and say, what I want is to destroy
the Chinese economy. That's how cross purpose those two goals are. Okay,
you're with me still, that's the setup, and we reached
a real nasty impasse with China. Howard Lutnik, Trump's guys,
they go over there, they come back and say, woo,
(20:54):
we have kind of a deal, at least the start
of a deal with it. In the very least, hostility
have ceased, and voila. The next day, Donald Trump gets
up and announces that he loves all these Chinese students.
He's just really happy that they're all here, and they
should all come and go to Harvard. Not that the
develop what's going on? Donald Trump? For any desires he
(21:24):
may have of reassoring American manufacturing and making trade more
even and whatnot, he is still a president and not
a king. A president and not a king, and frankly,
even kings, most of them, their power was limited but
let's focus on what we're talking about here. He's not
(21:46):
a king. He can have all the desires he wants
about American manufacturing and American workers and they have more
fair trade, and he can want a million different things.
He is, however, limited. There is a ceiling on just
how much of it he can get done, because the
(22:08):
powers of the presidency are limited. Therefore, you can get
out there on the campaign trail and you can say
things like we're going to bring all this manufacturing back
and we're going to take it to China. But reality
has a way of smacking around campaign promises. Because here's reality.
(22:35):
When Donald Trump first started hammering China with these tariffs
a little bit ago, remember that little dip in the
stock market, Remember the mass panic. Everybody picked up their
phone and checked their four oh one k and then
freaked out and called their mother. Remember all that. What
was that? Let me tell you what it was. That
(22:57):
was the global financial system putting I'm gonna say this
in a way that might offend you. Remember if you're offended,
I don't give a crap. That was the global financial
system putting Donald Trump in his place. That was the
global financial system telling Donald Trump uh. You may be
(23:19):
the most powerful person on the planet. You may be
the president of the United States of America. You don't
get to upset the apple cart for how the world's
finances run. That was the global financial system saying hey, mister,
not so fast and not so far, you better slow down.
And you notice thirty seconds after that, hey, we got
(23:43):
a ninety day truce with China. While we work things out.
You can want to reshore manufacturing, you can want to
make things here, you can want all the right things,
you can have the right goals in mind. But you
are still, as a president, as any elected political leader
(24:03):
in this country, you are still confined by the system,
by the political system, by our current laws, by the
financial system, by the system that has been put into
place over years and years and years, a system that
you now have to work with, whether or not you
like that system or dislike that system. If I am
(24:26):
made the head basketball coach of the local school, of
the local high school, and I promise people when they
hire me, when they're thinking about hiring me, I'm going
to go in a state championship in the first year.
Just hire me. Coach Kelly will take you to the
promised Land, We're going to win a state championship. I
give you my word, and then I take over the
(24:47):
team and I find out it's a bunch of five
foot six white kids who can't run and can't jump
and aren't very good at basketball. Well, I mean, it
doesn't matter. If I'm Bobby Knight and John I wouldn't
all rolled up into won. It doesn't matter how much
I want to win that state championship. And I do
want to win that state championship, and I'm gonna bust
(25:08):
my butt to make sure it happens. We're not gonna
win the state championship, not with a bunch of five
six white kids. It's not gonna happen. What, Chris, is
that offensive? Is it? I didn't mean it to be.
Everyone knows what I mean. The presidency, its powers are limited. Now.
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That brought me back to the discussion of why all
this talk today, why this public announcement, Why did we
wake up and we're seeing Donald Trump? Our great farmers
and people in hotel and leisure have been stating our
very aggressive policy on immigration is taking a very good,
longtime workers away from them and those jobs are impossible
(25:55):
to replace. In fact, that criminals are getting hired, which
is kind of bullcrap, but still, why did we wake
up to this? Well, that's going to bring us right
back to the conversation we just had about the limits
of the powers of the presidency. I'll finish this up
in a moment. Hang on, it is the Jesse Kelly Show.
(26:17):
You're lucky. I just didn't let that song play. I'll
tell you that right now on a wonderful, wonderful Thursday.
Remember if you miss any part of the show, he
could download the whole thing. iHeart spotify iTunes. Now let's
round out this long discussion about what Trump said about
the illegal farm workers and hotel workers and all the
(26:39):
other stuff, and then we're walking away from politics. I'm
about rioted out. I'm politics out for the day. We're
about to go talk about some Alexander the Great. I
take that back. In the final hour. We'll probably come
back and do some more politics, but just a warning.
Consider this your warning. Now I'm about to divert right
(26:59):
off politics and everything else, and I'm going deep into
history about ten minutes from now. I don't know when
I'm pulling out again. So there you go. I don't
know when I'm gonna stop talking about that I got.
I'll put it to you that way. I don't need
these looks, Chris, what Donald Trump said about illegal immigration, farmers, hotels, leisure.
(27:26):
I've discussed this thing with you before. Let me remind
you again that I ran for Congress a couple times
in Arizona. I was the Republican nominee for Congress a
couple times. And when you're running for Congress, certainly once
you earn the Republican nomination, every single area is the same.
It doesn't matter what area you're listening to me from.
(27:50):
There is a cabal of wealthy Republicans in your area,
and they usually know each other, work with each other,
and they are considered bundlers. We called them bundlers. The
National Republican Party calls them that. The Democrat Party calls
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them that too. They have their own Your area has
this wealthy cabal of Republican donors who will raise you
money to get you elected to the state House or
state senator, mayor or congress or senator or whatever. And
look like if you're running for president, you'll have different
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pockets of these people in the different areas all across
the country. George W. Bush. Here's a little tidbit you
may not know. George W. Bush had this, and he
had a name for them. They were considered because George W.
Bush is a Texan and everyone knows what the Texas
Rangers are. They were called Rangers Bush's Rangers. If you
were a wealthy Republican donor who bundled a lot of
(28:55):
money for George Bush, I forget what the number was,
how much you had to raise, you got the title
of and I'm sure you also got a cell phone number.
That's how it works. Okay, you got it.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
You with me.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Well, I'm running for Congress in Arizona. These Republican donors,
almost every one of them. They're business owners, different kinds
of businesses, hotels, restaurant tours. I found so fancy when
I say that Chris leisure industry. They met with me
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when they were considering whether or not they were going
to support my run for Congress. It was still a
primary at the time, and they weren't really interested in
my tax stance. They didn't really care whether I was
pro life or or kill them all let God sort
them out. They were interested in my stance on illegal immigration,
(29:47):
and they were very concerned that I meant the things
I was saying back then about deporting every single illegal
and securing the border. When they found out I was
dead serious about that, they chose to bundle for somebody else. This,
by the way, explains why there are so many Republicans
(30:10):
in Congress, James Langford and others who are so open
borders and always end up siding with the Democrats on it.
The truth is, money is the lifeblood of politics. You
don't get elected to any position without raising some of it.
You don't have to raise the most of it, that's
a lie, but you've got to raise some. Even at
city council, small city council rate, you're it's gonna take
(30:32):
some money. You're gonna need some to raise some money
for mailers and bumper stickers. It takes some money. The
wealthy people who support Republicans for president not all of
them at all, So don't think I'm indicting everybody. But
many of the wealthy people who support Republicans for President
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and House and Senate. They are business leaders who rely
on immigrant workers to keep the labor costs down. Sometimes
those immigrant workers they rely on are legal, Oftentimes they
are not legal oftentimes at my fancy Republican resort, Jesse
(31:15):
Kelly Resort and SPA. Please come on, well, spend some
time by the fool by the pool, enjoy our five restaurants.
We'll give your wife a facial. All this kind of thing. Well,
I've I've got five hundred employees who work there. Two
hundred and fifty of them are illegals. I got them
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washing the rooms, I got them doing the dishes, I
got them cleaning the pool. We're not gonna let them
give your wife a facial. But you understand what I mean.
That's the dirty little secret. And so here is what happened.
We'll call this a guess if you will. Donald Trump's
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phone has been ringing when he turned ice all the
way loose. And Tom Holman is a guy he used,
an immigration hawk in every sense of the word. Tom
Holman will deport his own mother if he finds out
she's here illegally. That's why I love him. Tom Holman's
been sending ice on freaking construction sites. Tom Homer will
kick in the door of your restaurant and deport everybody there.
(32:20):
Donald Trump's phone has been ringing, and not from people
like you, or people like me, people with large bank
accounts who write large checks. Probably people who have done
business with Donald Trump many times before, have been calling
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and texting and saying, hey, mister President, hmm, I got
a hotel. I'm trying to keep profitable here. You just
deported a bunch of my guys. Now you can say,
as I would say, too bad, so sad. But this
is what happens when you see it's been years getting
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your economy addicted to the drug of illegal immigration. It
is a drug. It is an addictive drug, and we
are hooked on it as a nation. Getting us off
of that drug it can't happen all at once, much
as I want it to. We're going to have to
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wean ourselves off of it by electing border hawk after
border hawk after border hawk who will take the necessary steps.
That's why Donald Trump came out today and said what
he said. I know that doesn't ease your anger. I
get it. I disagree with him too, but that is
(33:46):
what happened. I'm tired of politics. I'm going to talk
about history for an hour, maybe more. I don't care.
It's my show. If you don't like it, now would
be a good time. To change the channel because we're
about to go back to ancient history. One of the
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