Military Involvement with Protesters

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show on an Amazing Friday,
and asked doctor Jesse Friday, we're gonna talk about how
I would have felt when I was in the Marines
getting deployed.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Over there to LA jury duty. Someone wants to discuss it, women, men, sports,
college sports, the National Debt, all that and so much
more coming up this hour on the world famous Jesse
Kelly Show. So let's just dig into this one right here. Hey, Jesse,
if you were still in the Core, how would you
feel about being sent to LA? Says this from an

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eighty five year old listener. So I'm gonna say something
and it's not going to sound great unless you can relate.
And man, that was awesome. Did you guys hear that rhyme? What? Chris?
Did you hear that? It's not gonna sound great unless
you can relate. Aa. That's good. I'm gonna use that

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again anyway. So when you're in I'll just make it
about the Marines, when you're in the Marine Corps, and
when you're specifically in the infantry in the Marine Corps,
any kind of a real combat mos a combat job
in the Marine Corps, which that's what I was. It
was infantry. Your day to day life sucks, and I

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made it in this way. It's not that it's it's
not that it's horrid overall. It's that your day to
day life is a grind and it's always miserable, and
it should be. I'm not complaining by the way it
should be. It's not supposed to be sunshine and roses.
You're in the infantry. They're trying to make you tough,

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they're trying to train you. So your whole life every
day is sweating and misery, and you're out in the field.
You're getting dirty, you're constantly hot, you're constantly tired, you're
constantly getting screamed at doing pushups, constantly running to and
fro and then waiting, hurry up and wait. This is

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your daily life, and this is how it has to be. Again,
this is not a complaint. That's how it has to be.
It's your daily life. And as you're going through this,
you are getting tougher and better. As you acquire more skills,
you do shoot better. You are physically getting harder and
harder and harder. You are becoming the longer you spend

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you're becoming that warrior, right and well, I'll put it
to you this way. If you decided to go out
for the football team, and you go out and you
make the football team, and you go to two days
in the summertime, two practices of today, hot, miserable, you're
running stairs, you're puken, waits over and over, practice, over

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and over, yelling over. Don't you want to get in
the game at some point in time, if you're going
to go through all of that, don't you want to
play a game? That's the idea. You put in the work.
You got yourself strong, you got yourself ready. When we

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were in we wanted to go to war. We wanted
It's not that we weren't afraid. There was always that
fear there. No one wants to die or be maimed,
or be burned or something like that. There's always that
fear there. But as young naive men, it is fairly
naive to want to go to war, trust me on that.
But as young naive men, you spend all this time

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to go through all this misery, getting yourself hard and ready,
and hard and ready and hard and ready. You want
to use those skills I did the two days I've
been in the weight room, I want to go out
and play a football game. Now, if you had told
us we weren't even political, really, there wasn't really anybody

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that I can think of that doesn't stand out to
me that was political, myself included. I know you're probably thinking, well,
except for you, no, I was. Remember I did not
grow up political. I did not grow up in a
political household. I have always been a huge history nerd.
And I knew that we were Republicans just because that's
the only thing my dad ever told me. I asked

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him one time whether we were Democrats and Republicans. I
was a small child, and he looked at me and
his lovely soft way and said, we're Republicans, and that
was that. So I was not political when I was
in the Marine Corps. None of us really were. If
they had come and told if they had come to
us one day and said, get your stuff packed. You

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know all those people rioting in LA We're going to
go smash some skulls, we would have been beside ourselves
with excitement. This is they Like I said, it was
not even a political thing. If you told us that
there were a bunch of people looting and burning and

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American city that would have bothered us a great deal,
and you told us that we now have to go
there and fight them. Oh gosh, we would have been
unreasonably excited to do so. I know, from the outside
looking in that maybe sounds barbaric or makes us sound violent,
or and maybe it is. Maybe it is barbaric, Maybe

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it is violent. I would have loved the opportunity to
smash some commie rioters face in. I would have absolutely
loved the opportunity to do so. We ran into one
in a well, you know what, I probably don't need
to tell that story on the radio. Maybe that's another time.
Shall we Let's move on? Hey, Jesse, so now the
floor or so now the women are suing for equal

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pay in the nil deals. He's talking about NCAA sports
men's football and basketball bringing all the money, so well, listen.
I you know, I would never give myself any credit
for predicting this, But Chris Corey, I don't even know
if Corey was here yet. When I said, what did

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I say was going to happen when college sports started
allowing these athletes to sign endorsement deals? What did I
say was going to happen? Chris creeah. Here's what I said.
The women are going to sue and it's going to
blow everything up in college sports. This is how it works.

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And I know because my wife was a college athlete
and I got to know all the intricacies of the
whole thing. Did you know that most universities, most this
is the vast majority, they only make money on the
football program. All the other different sports, men's, women's, doesn't

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matter what it is. The football program is the one
that brings revenue into the university. That's big schools, small schools.
Most of the unionies. That's the case. There are a few.
There are some these men's basketball meccas, you know, like
a Duke or something like that, where the basketball team

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will also make money, but there aren't many of those.
Beyond that, the sports are money losers for colleges when
you consider the facilities, when you consider these are essentially
six figure scholarships you're handing out for free. When you
consider all these things, the lack of attendance. Sports in

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college outside of those examples I just gave are money losers. Well,
you decide to open up college sports, and now you
can pay the players. You can get sponsorships for the players.
I saw this coming a million miles away. I don't
know why anyone else couldn't. Who's going to get the sponsorships?
The starting quarterback, the starting power forward, the wide receiver,

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the defensive ends, because remember, you only would sponsor a player.
You know, you don't get advertisers for funsies. You know
the people who advertise on this show. Yes they share
our values, and yes I'm friends with pretty much all
of them personal friends. But they're not advertising just because
they love the show. You want a return on the

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investment you expect, you demand, and you have every right
to demand a return on your investment. If you're sponsoring
a college athlete, you're not doing it for no reason
at all. Either A you are just a huge fan
of your school and you're gonna hemorrhage that money because
it's nothing to you, or B. The most common one

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is you expect the starting quarterback to advertise for your
local chicken wing company because you expect his endorsement to
bring in business and you want to sell more chicken wings.
Who is showing up at your business for the softball player.
I'll make it about obs sport Gymnastics she was an

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elite gymnast, one of the best in the country. She
didn't bring any money into the university. You could have
driven through Tucson one day and actually seen her up
on some little billboard flag type thing. She didn't bring
a diamond too that university. She on an international scholarship

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cost the University of Arizona money. And she'd tell you
that to this day, when I had to go to
the gymnastics meets and when I got to go, when
I got to go to the gymnastics meets, is what
I meant to say. When I got the awesome opportunity
to go to the gymnastics meets, even the big ones
against the rival school, nobody in the stance, nobody's buying

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gymnastics merch. But when you combine the fact that other
sports don't money with the fact that today's young athletes,
not all of them at all. There are a bunch
of wonderful young athletes, but a lot of today's young
athletes are really really entitled, little nasty brats. It was
obvious to anyone with the brain that the women's basketball

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player was going to watch the starting quarterback get a
million dollars a year and she was going to feel
entitled to some of that sheddar herself. It was obvious.
That's how it works. All right, to move off of
this and talk about the national debt. It is the
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Dear hummer lover, how much of our thirty seven trillion
dollar national debt do you think is from waste, fraud
and abuse and could have been avoided half most all?

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If I had to put a number on that, I
would tell you, well, I got hold on pause for
a second. What do we consider waste or fraud or abuse?
And I ask it for this reason. I'm not trying
to be cryptic here. If a president declares a war,

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a war that really doesn't have an end goal to it,
a war that maybe you consider unjustified or kind of pointless.
If he declares a war like that and the war,
on top of the lives and everything else, costs five
trillion dollars, does that fall for you in the category

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of waste fraud and abuse. It does for me. And
this is why I want to answer the question this way.
We don't because this is the only thing we've ever
known as America. And I realized we have a bunch
of foreigners listening to But I'm just speaking as an American.
We don't really realize and appreciate how wealthy we are.

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I don't either, how wealthy we are as a country,
over the top, ridiculously wealthy in ways that even other countries,
modern civilized countries can never even compare to. They don't
even relate to it. I was, remember I told you
that time I went to Europe with the fam, took

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ob and the boys. We went to Austria in the
Czech Republic. Well, part of the appeal of leaving Houston
in the summertime was we were going to get to
get out of the heat. Let's get out of the heat,
spend a week out of the heat. I'd never been
to Europe. I'd always wanted to go nerd out on history.
Let's get out of the heat and lo and behold

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the way it works. Sometimes we show up in Europe
and they are having the hottest summer they've It was
something like a record or one of the hottest they'd
ever had. I don't want to be over the top
with it, but it was baking. We're talking for Europe.
It was ninety four ninety five degrees roasting in Europe.
So we get there and it's cooking, and everybody, all

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the tourists, it's all tourist spots. We're all walking around
looking at stuff like that. It's all hot. You know.
The main thing restaurants were advertising as you walked up
and down the street air conditioning. It is so rare
there that the restaurants who had it knew they had

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a selling point that other restaurants could not match. All
they had to do was put a sign out in
front and said, we have air conditioning here, come on
in and eat. Let me ask you something as an American,
have you ever won time in your life eaten in
a restaurant in this country that did not have air
conditioning in it. I'm sure I have a couple times.

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But that's something most people will never experience in this country.
Air conditioning. Everybody has air conditioning. You have air conditioning
in your apartment, of course you do if you have
if you have a small one bedroom apartment. It's air
condition isn't it If you work in an office building.
We're in one right now. There's air conditioning. I'm doing
my show. I think it's like seventy five degrees in here.

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Your restaurants, I'm gonna stop at a gas station on
the way home. It will be air conditioned. So what
I was getting to is, we have an absurd amount
of money in this country. Thirty seven trillion dollars in
national debt is an unbelievable disgrace because it should be

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zero dollars with the amount of money we take in
in this country, with the amount of money we truly have,
if we were run the right way, if we had
done things the right way, we'd be sitting on a
thirty trillion dollars surplus. That's how ridiculous, that's how criminal

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it is that we are thirty seven trillion dollars in debt.
We are as a country, as a people. Those professional athletes.
We make fun of the NBA player who makes twenty
million dollars a year and then goes bankrupt the second
he retires because he was spending somehow more than he

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was taking in. We love to point at that guy, Ah,
look at that stupid idiot. Wow, what an uneducated moron.
How do you spend more than that's us, That's the
United States of America. We've done that. A country this
wealthy should never be in debt. Ever, maybe maybe you

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could make an exception for a large war like a
World War Two. You can understand, Hey, we have to
put some economic things on hold. We have to overbuild
planes and ships, and we have the maybe temporarily we
should be spending more than we take in. But the
amount of money this country takes in, that we have

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not only not been able to stay underneath that amount,
but that we have blown through it to the point
we're thirty seven trillion dollars in debt is a disgrace.
It's pathetic. I'll be honest. It embarrasses me. It embarrasses me.
We are the young NBA player who makes twenty million

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and spends thirty million a year. We're the rapper who
goes bankrupt, but he's got a diamond necklace worth eight
hundred thousand dollars. That's us here in the United States
of America. Embarrassing. But we have allowed to happen to
the treasury. That's how it goes, All right, move on,
do some other stuff. It is Jesse Kelly Show on

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a wonderful Friday and ask doctor Jesse Friday. And we're
not discussing anymore of this regime change stuff right now.
I realize missiles are flying and threats are being tossed around,
and it's probably going to be a wild weekend over
there in the old Levant. So we're just going to
sit here and answer some ask Doctor Jesse questions, and

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I guess we'll sift through the carnage on Monday. Jesse,
your history discussions and your comments the other night about
whether we are still a nation prompt me to request
or suggest that you discuss our founding as these United
States versus being a country or a nation. You explain
things well, and I would appreciate hearing your explanation of

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our progression from a group of sovereign states to whatever
we are now. Thank you for your time and attention. Well,
I'll just touch on this briefly. Remember that we were
colonies at first. We were colonies. Everyone knows about the
thirteen Colonies. We were colonies, and the colonies had their

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own governments. Human beings whenever they live together a city
or a call, any estate, whatever, they're going to create
a government. A government is a very human thing. You're
always going to have some form of it. It could
be a tribal chief or a king or a representative republican,
but you're going to have a government of some kind.
So the colonies had a government. But as they were

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chafing underneath the king, they were starting to figure out
that a bunch of separate colonies can be smashed, can
be crushed. But if there was some way to unify them,
if there was some sort of uniting principle, then their

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collection getting together would be a strength. They would become
stronger and possibly even strong enough to fight off the
British crown. We did that, but then then you really
need to figure out, Okay, how are we going to
live together? Because New York even back then was different

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than South Carolina. It's different different regions. You're going to
have different values in different regions. What are the unifying ideas,
what are the unifying principles? And they had all kinds
of debates about that back then, back and forth of
how should the government be here, how should it be there,
how should it function? Endless discussions. Eventually we settled on

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what we obviously know the constitution. The federal government should
be limited. The states really should govern themselves for the
most part. But we are still one country. We have
united the states. The states are united, so we're one country.
But the federal government is a very very small thing.
The states should handle their own business. That's how we

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were founded. That's what they believed, that's what worked, and
that's what would still work. Federalism the idea that the
states govern themselves, handle themselves. The federal government only does
the things that are absolutely necessary for a federal government
to do. Things like currency. You can't have South Carolina
having a different currency to Montana. It doesn't work. You

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have to have one currency as a country, all right.
So how did we get to where we are now? Well,
on a macro level, we're human and we're governed by
other human beings. And people who achieve power very very

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very rarely try to just maintain it, and almost never
do they try to reduce the amount of power they have.
You know, no football coach takes over the football team
and says, you know what, I really want less control
over things. That's not how it works. You want more control,

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But governments operate the exact same way. And our federal government,
over years, decades and decades and decades and decades, because
it's occupied by flesh and blood human beings, was always
trying to find a way to take more power than
it was constitutionally allowed to have. Hey, we're the federal government.

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I want to be able to do this. I want
to be able to do that. I want to be
able to do this. You keep limiting my power. But
I have things I want to do, so I need
more and more and more of it. And how we
got to this place is, honestly, money is a big
part of it. When the federal government started handing out money,

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it started gaining control. That's that's really the huge problem
we have as a country. It's the amount of money
the federal government takes in and then hands out, giving
them control over things they have control over. Well, the
Department of Education, Department of Education hands out money. That
money is power. They can withhold it. Hell, keep you

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go ahead and defy me. I'll hold back my money.
Trump has done it, Democrats do it, Republicans do it.
Everyone does it. Now. Because you have money, what you spend,
what you pay for you control that. They've done it
with Wall Street, the financial sector in the government. You
can't even tell. There's not an inch of daylight between them. Now.

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They have completely merged with each other because the federal
government has this. The federal government has that, Hey, go
ahead and screw up at your bank. We'll come in
and take it over and piecemeil that whole thing out.
It's our bank. Now, these are ridiculous powers. The federal
government should have never had. The making war. I know

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this is a basic point, but you know that the
president can't just declare war. Right, that has to come
from the Congress. We are not a country with the
king where the president can just declare a war. But
I mean, all the way back to LBJ, I mean, shoot,
you can, are you the Korean War? You could? Presidents

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have just asserted their authority. They didn't like that limiting power. No,
I'm the president. I think we should. I think we should.
So they tried look back to Woodrow Wilson. Woodrow Wilson
because he was a worthless piece of tyrannical trash. Woodrow
Wilson thought he was above other people. He felt like
he was a king. Woodrow Wilson wanted US in World

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War One so badly, so badly. FDR wanted US in
World War Two so badly. In the public opinion polls
were always against them. The public was dead set against
getting involved in these wars. Until Pearl Harbor. No one
wanted to be involved in World War Two. Until you know,
the Lusitania and the Zimmerman Telegram and things like that.

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No one wanted to be involved in World War One.
Nobody did. But Woodrow Wilson in FDR again saw themselves
as kings, and they despised the fact that they had
to go along with the American public, that they had
to wait for cons to declare war. They hated that.
And look, you can hate those guys, and I don't
care for either of them, but it's human nature. Hey,

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lady Fingers, it's not nice. I'm listening to your rant
about observing on jury duty. Whatever sort of case it is,
it's probably not near as heavy as what my elderly
mom has had to endure in Sending a pedophile to
jail as a member of a jury here in Alabama
is as heavy as tin boxes that you might be moving. Well,

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I do agree with your civic duty. I would caution
people beforehand because you might be on a case like
a pedo and you have to look at all these
disgusting evidence items. I could never process this. It would
scar me for life just looking at that garbage. What
are your thoughts, bald Philosopher? I love your show, but
I'm contentious on this topic. I think I think guarding

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your what do they say today? What do these fruities
say today? Your mental health? I think guarding you mental
health it is appropriate at times. Of course, of course,
at the same time, who's going to sit on the jury?
And how much do you think you should shield yourself

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from the ugly realities of life? You know, when when
we're out traveling or doing something with our kids and
we encounter bad neighborhoods or or you know, some sad
homeless person drugged out or something like that, we don't

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run across the street or tell our children to cover
up their eyes look see. Understand that there's a different
side of the light of life that you know, there's
an ugly side out there, and I don't necessarily think
that's unhealthy. It may be painful, but I don't necessarily
think that's unhealthy. It is the Jesse Kelly Show on

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a Fantastic Friday, reminding you you can email the show
Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. Your love, your hate,
your death threats. All are welcome. Let's start chopping away
at some more of these, shall we, Jesse? Can you
know us and tell us another story about your experience
in the Marines. Did you ever have to work closely
with other branches of the military other than Navy? Corman

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thanks to you and your crew. So I've told this
story a long time ago. I'll I'll give you one.
I'll give you two, actually, because do you ever get
the feeling that God smiles on you. You don't deserve it,
but you end up, you end up catching breaks in
life that you that are inexplicable. I'll give you two

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of them. First, I told you about the time I
got giardia, that parasite in mountain warfare training, and then
I almost died when we were training. It was one
hundred and twenty degrees it was I was so dehydrated.
I was unbelievably sick. They had to rush me to
the hospital and I took down like three ivs. It
was I mean I was in bad shape. Well, I'm

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symptom free after this for a couple of weeks, symptom free.
They gave me a bunch of pills symptom free. Our unit,
our battalion, was getting ready to go out for one
of these brutal five day field ops in the desert,
and it's going to be brutal. It's going to be brutal.
The day they're supposed to leave, I get called down
to the office. This is always bad, universally bad. You're

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in trouble when you get called down to the office.
So I think I'm in trouble. I take off to
go down to the company command, the company office. Okay,
I see one of my corporals, one of my NCOs.
He passes me on the way back, and he's just
glaring at me, won't say anything to me. Now, I
really don't know what I did wrong. So I don't
know what I did wrong, but clearly something. I show up.

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I find out that they fly got my test results
back and that I have giardia, a parasite, and they're
telling me this like with a heavy like I'm gonna
be sad. They're like, hey, this is very contagious, so
you're not going to be able to go to the
field with us. In fact, it's so contagious that we
have to quarantine you in your roommate. He was my

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best friend. We have to quarantine you and your roommate
in case he has it too. You guys need to
stay in your rooms. You won't be going with us.
For five days, my unit went out to the desert
and lived in complete misery. We weren't even allowed to
go to the chow hall, so we ordered Domino's Pizza

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almost every single day. It was the only pizza place
on base on twenty nine Palms, and we played video
games in eight pizza like a bunch of college freshmen
for five days while everyone else was suffering like the
These are the kind of things that always happened to me.
So I'll give you. I'll give you a working with
the other branches story that again, it goes right along
the lines with what we're talking about here. We go

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to Iraq. I'm in first Betid seventh Marines Alpha Company
Weapons Patoon. We go to Iraq, Well, we go to Kuwait.
We stage in Kuwait. This is before Bush declares war.
Find the heat declares war. We take off, we head
into Iraq. We fight our way, we get all the
way to all the way up to Baghdad. Okay, so
we remove all the way up through Iraq, we get
to Baghdad. We get into Baghdad. We have not there

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are no facilities at the time, because again this is
the beginning of all of it. There aren't bases, there's nothing,
there's nothing there. We're sleeping in holes in the ground.
We dig. There's no facilities, and there's no bathing for
two or three weeks, there's no shower, there's no bath.

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Oh and by the way, it's hot. We've been wearing
our mop gear for lots of the time. That's your
don't don't die from gas gear. That's what it is.
So what what Chris said, How do you prevent the
chafing and stuff? You don't when you the only thing
you can do, as you are living in sweat and

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dirt and you stink like you can smell yourself, that
kind of a stink, the only thing you can do
is you get baby wipes, an attempt to wipe sensitive
areas down as best you can to make sure just
to make sure you don't get sick for you have
to maintain some sort of a high, some sort of hygiene,

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or else disease is gonna spread. So this is your life, sweat, dirt, misery,
and there is no bathing. Have you ever gone two
days three days without bathing? Most people have for one
reason or another. Maybe you're camping or whatever it may be.
How do you feel? Yeah, greasy, slimy, dirty. You can

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rub your skin into right now. Picture two or three
weeks in the desert with all this. By the time
we get to Baghdad, we are disgusting, We feel disgusting,
and everyone's dying for a bath. So we get to

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Bagdad and they take my unit and we go to
a place I believe it's still there. You can probably
look it up called the March. I think it was
called the Martyr Monument or Martyr Monument Park something like that.
It has what looks like a gigantic blue water drop
in it. So if you look it up, that's where
we were. Okay, if it's still there, if they haven't

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blown it up or something like that, that's where they
took my unit. Hey, this is where you're going to
stage go secure this area at the time Again, I
don't want to tell you that's still the case. Is
this is twenty years ago. At the time, there was
a big pond in the in there. I can't even
describe how badly we wanted to go have a bar
of soap and go dive into this water to clean ourselves.

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We are nasty for whatever reason. Maybe it was security,
maybe they had tested the water, it was disease, maybe
they were just being me and I don't know. You
don't know a lot of things when you're in more,
they wouldn't let us get in it. So not only
are we nasty, we can't get in the water now

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we are. I was in a mortar section. I was
in O three forty one mortarmen. We really didn't hardly
we'd ever used our mortars in Iraq. We were just
basic infantrymen. We had to carry them around, we had
to set them up on occasion. But mortars are not
great in an urban environment for obvious reasons. You hit

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buildings and things like that with it. It's hard to lob things.
Just we weren't in a mortar friendly environment, so we
just became basic infantrymen walking around just like all the
other Oath three elevens, which we were all trained for
that anyway, it was fine, it was no big deal.
We were basic infantrymen. Now, remember I told you we're nasty,

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and remember we haven't slept in anything resembling a bed
or even a cot or anything like that. In weeks,
we get called down to the company commander's office and
he gives us some of the best coolest news ever.
I'll finish this in a second. Hangou