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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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do it in Denver, the one and only Roamy Bean
with CBS for Roami. You are tremendous. We are thrilled
to have you on the show.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Ah, guys? Uh, what an honor and the feeling is
very mutual. I'm honored to be on with you guys,
so thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Absolutely well. So we talked about at the very beginning of.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
The show a little bit of the saltiness we feel
after staying up super late last night to watch our
beloved Nuggets and Avalanche lose in the postseason.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I am not so worried.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
About the Avalanche, but I do think some of the
Cracks are showing a bit with the Nuggets. Where do
you sit with both those teams in their respective series?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Yeah, I got to agree with you. The Abs, I
mean they look like a wagon to me. And the
biggest thing with them is the depth. You see guys
like Logan O'Connor with four points in two games, Charlie Coyle,
all these guys stepping up. That's how they won the Cup,
you know, first time around. Besides of course the superstars
and Mackenzie Blackwood has just been sensational. It's still crazy
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to me that this is his first ever playoff series.
If the Avs signed this guy and basically said we
want you to, you know, take us to a cup,
never him having played in the playoffs and clearly showing
the foresight that they saw something. He's been amazing and
you know, a good goalie can win you a cup.
So I still feel great about the ADS. I think
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that's just going to be, you know, a bloodbath kind
of a series. I never expected it to be super easy,
so I'm really I'm not overly concerned with the Avs,
especially then of course you got the impending Landy coming
back as well. Now that I think it's different, this
is this is a tough series, really interesting. I had
Dan Sole on my show yesterday and I asked him
his perspective of Game two and he said, in his opinion,
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he felt like Game two was the most important one
to win. You know, obviously you can take that for
what it is, but in terms of heading out to La,
he felt like having a two nothing lead was really crucial.
And I think when you look at Kawhi, I don't
know if it's sustainable. I don't know if we're gonna
see that kind of a performance from Kawhi every night.
But to do what he did with basically three hands
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in his face every single shot, you got him. You know,
James Harden a little bit more inconsistent, but the Clippers
are a really good team, and they're a solid shooting team.
There's a lot of other guys that have been really
stepping up. A guy like Bat I'm just trusting that
that's a guy that I think could, you know, be
a thorn in the side. And you mentioned I think
the biggest concern with the Nuggets is gonna be consistency.
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You know, obviously, turnovers are the death of you in
any sport. Clippers had twenty in the first game they lost.
Don't gets had twenty in the second game they lost.
So I'm not out on the Nuggets, but I do
agree I think this is gonna be a really really
tough series, and I think you're gonna have to consistently
get more. We did see more from Michael Porter Junior.
We need even more from Michael Porter Junior. Going forward.
Everyone's gonna have to be on because they are going
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to keep doubling and tripling Yokic, and I think they
feel confident that the Nuggets are not always going to,
you know, be able to make those buckets. So it's
going to come down to defense taking care of the ball,
but also can you make your shots? Can you make
the most of the opportunities playing Yokic the entire second half,
I don't love it. It's not ideal, right, So I
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think you're you're you're spot on there. We're seeing some cracks,
But that all being said, still think I'm not out
on them. I still think they could win the series.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Romieh When I look at the game of hockey, it's
always been traditionally a sport where you see a lot
of movement, where guys are getting traded, they're walking down
to the next locker room and you know, welcome to
the new team and get running to face off against
their old team. Look at the Abs, particularly doing what
kind of the Lakers have been trying to do the
last couple of years where you see this kind of
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complete overhaul of their team in the middle of the season,
and it's working in the favor of the ABS right now,
playing really, really well. You talked about Blackwood and just
standing on his head even though last night to ass
take a loss. I think that he's going to be
great for this team for years to come and go
out and get him to get his backup. But the
movement that we saw the Abs do this year, do
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you think we're going to see that become a little
bit more common in the NHL where there's a lot
of guys just playing for a team during the season,
and I'm kind of you tighten it down as you
go on and you solidify some spots, but just a
lot of Hey, we're going to trade for this guy,
We're going to move this guy, We're going to go
in this direction to kind of shore up all of
our lines. Is that the new ANNHL? In your opinion?
Speaker 3 (04:36):
You know, I think he has to. No, I know,
And the reason I say no is because the NHL
salary cap is theselm As salary cap in sports. It's
so tight you guys have such little movement that it
just doesn't necessarily allow them. I think what the Abs
did in this salary cap, with the salary cap is incredible,
the moves that they were able to make, and of
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course the Miko Ranton in trade, which one had happened.
I was among the men that were like, what on
earth is happening. You don't often have the opportunity where
you can offload a superstar like that and then bring
in such a hal so I do think it's a
little bit of a rare situation. Normally you can bring
in a couple pieces. But at the same token, this
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does seem to be the recipe because if you go
back to the year when they won the Cup, it
did a very similar thing, and they brought in really
really key guys around the deadline, you know, even a
guy like ar torri Lekin, and they brought in really
key pieces. They added a lot of key depths. But
then you looked at kind of the next year and
they were strapped with the salary cap, and then of
course there was all sorts of situational things with Val
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and with Gabe, but they were they couldn't make those
same moves really until kind of this year, So I
think it's salary cap dependent. I think it's situational, and
I think this Mico rand In trade was so unusual
to see a guy like that get moved at that point.
But look what the ads have done with it. All
you can do is give the front office an A plus.
They completely nailed it.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Romy Bean joining us here, last couple questions for you, Romie,
I want to ask you about CEU. Obviously you've been
covering this team for quite some time. Boy, what a
weekend for see with a spring game retiring the numbers.
I'm sure that was quite the scene. I thought it
was interesting after though, with coach Prime, I guess rating
maybe I fit strong but frustrated by the turnout for
CU fans there at the spring game.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
What do you sort of attribute to that?
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Do you think that's maybe telling of some of the
expectations this upcoming year?
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yeah, I mean I think that that speaks to the
star power of Shador Sanders and Travis Hunter, and even
if these guys that I think fans got to know
over the past couple of years, you know, the Jimmy
Horns and Lejohntay Westerns, the Cam Sulman Craig. It was
really this group that kind of defined this era, so
the Starpower, obviously the two big guys, but so many
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other guys that weren't on the field. This feels like
a really different or really new team, and I think
people are there's just a little less star power around
it right now. People are a little curious, a little
hesitant to maybe buy in with the quarterback situation, and
so I think it's going to be What it does
give is these kids an opportunity to really step up,
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because of course they're still going to have that big
platform around Coach Prime, and some new superstars might be
born very early into next season. But I think the
hype right now has to almost be rebuilt back up
without these guys and without a generational Heisman winner in
Travis Hunter, and obviously having the Jersey retirement, which we
created a lot of conversation one way or another. But
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you brought a little of that star power back and
I think that probably did help boost ticket sales a
little more. I think they were a little bit low.
So it's going to be interesting to see how does
that unfold during the season and who's going to kind
of emerge as some new superstars potentially, you know, early
in the season.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
So, Romie, where do you stand with the retiring of
the jerseys? I mean, is it validated now because of
that star power and the turnout that we've seen the
last couple year and just kind of all the things
that you're saying about Shadora and Travis on Earn and
what they brought to see you the last couple of
years they've been here.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
You know, I think that there's a lot of different
ways that you can look at it. Obviously the timing
that not waiting. But for me as a CU alum,
and I know some people might disagree with us, but
I put this on CEU. People are upset that the
on figures number two wasn't retired. Whose fault of that?
Why was the on figure's number not retired? Why was
it available you know for Shador at that point? Why
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is Alfred Williams not on there? I think that to me,
this is a fault of the university and with the alumni.
I'm happy to say that I feel like this was
one of those There's a lot of pieces you can argue,
and I think the timing, of course, and the not
of a wait not waiting period is something to be said.
But even you look at how long they waited for
Rashon Zalam and you and you know, unfortunately so many
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years after his heisman and after his death. And I
think that, to me, that's on the university. It's that
these guys that aren't in that are rightfully frustrated they
should have been in, And that's on the school that
they never put them in in the first place. And
what I hope this does is to set the precedent
that let's not continue this. Let's make sure that these
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guys from the past are getting honored and we're not
waiting decades. So, you know, everybody has a different opinion,
but honestly, that's kind of where I fall on.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Romi. You're the best. Appreciate the time as always, Thank you, Thanks.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Romy I appreciate you guys. We'll see at the draft.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
It sounds good Romie underscore being on Twitter. Yeah, Robie
talking about the as I mean more or less agreed, right,
We talked about them in the first hour before about
the Abs. Feel good about where they're at, especially.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
With their goalie play.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
And I love the point that you brought up there
about maybe there is something to the way Chris McFarland
has gone about this season that other teams, as we
often see parody, right, other teams will take a look
at and say, boy, you know he went into the season,
you had questions at the goalie. He said, you know what,
We're just go to blow out that entire room. We're
gonna get a whole new goalie room. And oh you
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have questions about this, all right, We're gonna trade one
of our star players in order to add depth to
the roster and give ourselves a better shot at having
death into the second and third and even in the
fourth lines.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Yeah, Houdini, I mean, watch the step back, watch the
musician work. Chris McFarland got it done, man, And there
was some headge scratching moments. You know, Romy talks about Miko.
I'm still I'm watching Miko last night. I'm like, yeah,
I can't believe we had I can't believe we let
him go and not even like a massive effect on
yesterday's game. But I'm just watching a very talented player
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who I'm saying, man, he's got a lot of years.
But that's kind of where and that's why Chris McFarland
gets paid the big bugs And that's why I can't
be a GM. I would be running that thing under
you know, emotion and feeling right and y know, how
much does it how much years does the guy have left?
And where you got to kind of understand that you
are getting ready to be in a tough spot. You know,
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when his contract is up, and what does it look
like at re signing him and you know the pieces
in the locker room that you already do have, do
you is this thing going to drag out as well?
So I think it was the right move for that
when you have so many different question marks. But for me,
I'm just looking at NHL and what it's always been.
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You know, you look at last night every time that
you saw that whistle and you see guys kind of
tussled up and locked up, and you're like, man, yeah,
I be careful. I'm like, I'm looking at all the
ass player, I'm like, pull back, just he's back right.
Don't want to end up in the box right now.
Don't want to hurt this team. And you know, so
the playoff hockey is so drastically different than the regular season,
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and yesterday I'm seeing four lines that I feel very
good about, and I think Dallas was a lot more
desperate and was able to outlast the Avalanche. Let's see
if you could do that here now, now the series
comes back to Colorado right where the air is a
little bit thinner, and credit to Dallas and get it
done and figure it out a way to get it.
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But I still am very confident in this Avalanche team.
And there's a lot of great hockey being played right now,
and I'm watching the Avalanche continue to take steps forward
and develop as a team.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
But they're gonna have to stay with the emotional momentum
that Dallas is going to continue to bring because they
are they lost their home ice. Yeah, like, whatever you
need to accomplish, you did, because you did split in Dallas.
You tilted home ice back in your favor if you're
the Avalanche. So Dallas is going to continue to play desperate.
They had to win that game, but they're probably gonna
say we got to split. Now back here in Colorado.
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That's going to be another desperation. And you saw in
the third and fourth period specific well third in the
overtime period specifically, because.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Dallas had that thing tilted, the.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Ice was clearly on the other side, and it felt
like it.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Was only a matter of time. To your point.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
In the first hour, it felt like inevitably they're going
to get one of these pucks past Mackenzie Blackwood, who
is just really playing awesome.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
I mean, you look at the box score. You say, man,
you're lending four goals. Yeah, yeah, that doesn't tell you.
That doesn't tell you nowhere near the story of last night.
When I look at that and you know thirty four saves, right,
I mean, so getting it done. I look at the
Avs in this way. Now you have a unique opportunity.
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You can break the spirit of that whole organization. You
could break the will of that fan base. Can you
get too, Can you get these two that's going to
be here at Ballerina over the next couple of days,
And that's how you take that fan base out of it.
You know, I watched games on mute. I don't you know,
ever since I decided to be analysts and I wanted
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to do radio, and I said, okay, don't want anybody
else form in my opinion. So whenever I'm watching games,
I'm watching it on mute. Still hated the fact that
I had to go from I was going back from
TV to TV last night. Don't want to do that.
We got to figure out a way. Whenever you got
two teams in the playoffs, they're playing at the same time.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
TV fired up last night. I get to watch them
both at the same time. It was amazing.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
No, I still I had it like that too, Ryan
at first, where it was just on one TV and
I got this nice little cool setup for when I'm
doing ESPN Radio and I'm able to kind of watch
multiple TVs. I got two TVs up there, and YouTube
TV got the quad screen. When the NFL's plan, it's unbelievable,
and they check it out if you haven't, they checked
it out before. I'm telling you, if you're a non fan,
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you're not going to go wrong. But yesterday I still
found myself, you know, telling myself, you know, scoop back over. Oh,
you you're splitting it. You're leaning too much, too much
towards the hockey TV right now. You're not watching both
games right and ended up missing some some key factors
where I had to go back and rewatch the Nuggets
game later on because I'm a hockey fan before a
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basketball fan, But you just look at this whole thing.
Dang right, where are we going with this? You know? Yeah,
just talking about the abs and what they were able
to do, right, And I think that you can really
sign lends that Dallas crowd if you take care of
business in game three, in game four and you definitely
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have the talent and the roster, get it done. VHS
VHS and writing down the words the really Yeah, listen
to a couple of bars and pause and write down
the words because I wanted to know the words right.
And you know, then you get older and other priorities,
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and you have a couple of concussions, and now you
don't know any of the words. So yeah, I watched
it about once a year. I think I've only seen
it twice in your whole life.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
In my whole life, there are plenty of other movies
that I watched.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
You look like like a cousin of first or second
cousin of Cheddar Bob Man.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Right, I'm gonna say it's a compliment, and it is
a compliment for sure.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
Man.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Ben Ben tends to wears be Rabbit outfit in study
every so often, with the hood up over his head
and Yeah, that's that's pretty good stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
No, I like that movie.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
It's funny people are talking a lot about the movie
Draft Day on Twitter this week because a lot of
people that get excited about the draft.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
You've watched the movie Draft? D You ever seen that?
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Yeah? Yeah, I liked it. Gets a flaws, Yeah, I
absolutely got some flaws That draft experiences are so different, right,
and I think it really is all You could find
out a lot about a person and their priorities, right.
You know. The one that I always like to look
at is Joe Thomas. And you know, when he was
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getting ready to get drafted and he knew it was
going to be a top three pick. I think what
did he go, like two or something like that. I
don't know exactly what he went to the Browns, but
you know he talked about it after and he says,
you know, this is one of the very he went three. Okay,
but he talked about like why he wasn't there in
the green room and I just found it fascinated, And
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he talked about this was one of the last opportunities
for a while. And he doesn't you know, grew up fishing,
and he grew up around his dad and that's what
they like to do. That was how they bonded. And
it's like, I'm getting ready to go into a new
world of playing in the NFL, and I don't know
how many more times I'm going to get to do
this or how often I'm going to get to do this.
And I thought that was so cool. Which now you
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fast forward to the time I got drafted now in
twenty eleven, and it made me rethink what I wanted
to do for the draft. So I ended up in Toronto, Canada.
It was going to be the last kind of opportunity
I looked at where I could get my mom, my brother,
I could get all the family, all the childhood friends
and people that I really valued in my life too
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in one place and kind of have this experience together.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
So did you know the Broncos were interested in you?
No time, No, I thought the Broncos were out.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
You know Dave Magazu rest in peace, he was offensive
line coach for the Broncos. He actually called me, I'd
like to say, around like February March, like during the
draft prep. And you know, you get multiple opportunities to
meet with teams during that where they could come and
fly down to work you out. They could visit with
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you at the cut Combine, they could come to your
pro day. I thought I was going to Pittsburgh. I
knew I was going to Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh was on me
every step of the way, whether it was working me
out in Miami, flying me into Pittsburgh as one of
the top guys to visit, meeting with them at the combine.
They even called me before the Broncos picked me and
Dave Magazine had called me set up a workout, calling
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me back about five days later and canceled the workout.
I was just like, okay, as the Broncos are out, yeah,
you know, even though he said, hey, you know, we
are still high on you, I was just looking at
other teams and comparing what other teams were doing. In
that moment, I was like, Okay, you might be high
on me, but these other teams are putting their money
where their mouth is, right and they're showing me what's up.
So I got a call from the three to zero
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three number, which, ironically enough, on draft night, my American
phone not really working in Toronto, Canada at the service
and a reception, so forwarded my phone to my cousin's phone,
and you know, I just say, hey, just give me
the phone. If you see a number calling, it's not
a Canadian number and it's his phone. So when your
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phone is forwarded, even though you have saved all, you
know the numbers in your phone of the person that's calling,
because that's what you're doing, right. They're in that whole process.
You meet with this coach, you meet with that coach,
you're saving their number, right. Of course this coach is
from this organization. So a three O three number pops
up and my cousin comes running and he's like, there's
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a three O three number on This is not me.
Like everybody kind of calls me. I have the number
and answer the phone is Orlando. It's John Oway. You're
running to become a Denver Bronco. Oh yeah, but not
know the Broncos are still in right, So yeah, my
draft experience very different. And then the Broncos picked at
forty five and it wasn't Orlando Franklin. After I told
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the whole house that I was getting ready to get drafted,
and I'm about twenty seconds into that, somebody realized that,
oh they have back to back picks you have back
to back picks. We're still there. We're still there. And
then they picked me up forty six.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
That's incredible. That's so cool.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Yeah, And I honestly, I can't get enough of the
Draft night stories. And I think it's really cool. I mean,
I think it's really cool. I talked to Ryan Harris yesterday.
He was talking about being at his house and how
nervous he was and he left to go to Dairy
Queen because he got tired of waiting around and everybody
asking him for food.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Well, and all these people are peppering him. His neighbors
are coming over like, oh, what are you hearing?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
What are you hearing? He's like, I'm hearing nothing. Stop
talking to me.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Leavy alone, and you know, again, so so unique to
every single person. As you mentioned, you're in Canada hanging
out with your family. Should Dor Sanders, for example, it's
going to be hanging out with his family does not
want to be there at Draft night. Von Miller, who
was taking second overall by the Broncos. Susie Wargen interviewed
a bunch of former Broncos former players, and we'll be
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playing these throughout the draft, but Here's her conversation with
von Miller about his draft experience, the.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Draft stories with Broncos sideline reporters Suzie Wartsiz.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
He's a two time Super Bowl champ and a Super
Bowl MVP will someday be in the Hall of Fame
as well as the Broncos Ring of Fame, and that
would be Von Miller.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Von, how are you?
Speaker 4 (21:21):
How do you? How's it going?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
It's going good?
Speaker 7 (21:24):
Hey.
Speaker 6 (21:24):
So let's go back to April twenty eighth, twenty eleven.
You're a Bucket Award winner coming out of Texas A
and M. Cam Newton goes first to the Carolina Panthers.
Broncos are on the clock. John Fox and company select you.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
The Denver Broncos select Von Miller, Mine Backer Texas A
and M.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
What do you remember about that night at Radio City
Music Hall.
Speaker 7 (21:47):
I remember having on my family, you know, with me,
there was a lot of speculation about me going to
number three.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
And the Broncos taking Marcia Darius at two, and it
wasn't until the drafts that night until they made that.
So I was kind off, you know, Guard, it was
a surprise and.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
You had no idea.
Speaker 7 (22:04):
I had no idea, and I knew that the Broncos
had a really good team that just had lost some
games that pushed them, you know, to you know, that
draft pick, on the number two draft pick.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
So you know, I always wanted to go to Denver,
but they had the.
Speaker 7 (22:15):
Number two pick and I didn't know I was gonna
make it, and it was just a play of surprise
on drafted.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
Was there anybody Vaughn after you got drafted that you
called to maybe thank for being a part of your Journeyman?
Everybody saw it on TV because you were the second pick,
so it wasn't any surprise to anyone. But did you
take that moment to thank somebody?
Speaker 7 (22:33):
Yeah, you know, John, I was John Alway's first pick,
so I always you know, in order to you know,
prove him right.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
And you know, he was a Hall of fame that
the Duke of Denver, you know.
Speaker 7 (22:43):
John Alway, and that was his first pick of the GM.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
So I always wanted to not only prove him right,
to prove myself right. And you know, just I know
not that I appreciate them picking me at number two
is very first pick of the GM.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
I love that.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
Von Miller, thank you for sharing your draft story.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
I appreciate. Thanks, so is Draft.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
Stories on the KOA Broncos Radio network.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
That's really cool and we can't wait. We have many,
many of those. First of all, shout out to Susie
Wargen and aj Alan Jackson for putting those together.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
But yeah, we have Let me give you a quick rundown.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Peyton Manning, Von Miller, Trell Davis, Gary Kubiak, Steve Alwater,
Daniel Graham, Steve Foley, Rick up Church, Lewis Grant, Oh sorry,
Louis Wright, and Simon Fletcher's the my granted producer for
a second.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
We have a great, great lineup.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Added me to that list there. It is too because
I saw Susie as I was outside in the parking
lot earlier today, rolled down the window as she was
walking by my car. Let's just say what's up. And
she actually got me on that and we're gonna set
it up. We're nice. I have a conversation to get
me on that list as well.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Very cool, well, fantastic, But again, we're gonna be airing
those throughout our draft draft process.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
But that's a little bit of a taste of what
you're going to hear.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
And I remember that Jammy Marcel Darius was in the
conversation there at the time. He ended up going the
next pick to the Buffalo Bills. Cam Newton went number
one overall, and it's sort of fascinating to see kind
of how that all, you know, shook out, and oftentimes
at the top of the draft, everybody goes out to
the quarterback. It's not to say that the Carolina Panthers
made a mistake. They got an MVP out of him.
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He took them to a super Bowl. But the longevity
of von Miller's career, the Broncos certainly and the other
teams including the Rams who got championship with him, are
pretty thrilled that von Miller was ended up being the
player that he is.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Yeah, I think if you're Carolina in that situation, you
got to make that move, right. I mean, you got
a new head coach because John Fox had just left
and came to the Broncos as well. So and then
you got a guy like Cam Newton that has been
so good, right. I mean you heard about the Remlins
when he was back there at Florida, and then you
kind of seen t Bow and what took off. So
Cam had to pivot and go in a different direction,
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but absolutely lit it up in the SEC and was
a hey, big man, right. I mean, I was on
a visit with the Minnesota Vikings, and Minnesota does did
things back then a lot different than every team. Minnesota
brought in all their guys for their draft visits all
at the same time. So you have this one weekend
there's like fifty sixty guys and we're all hanging out
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and just getting to know each other, and Cam walks
right by me. I'm like, dang, that's a good looking
d N man. DN looks like he could go like
very good body fat. And then I realized the quarterback.
I'm just like, oh, okay, you know, but the draft,
you know, good luck to everybody that's involved in it.
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There's so much emotions, there's so many highs and lows
that happened through that time. I hope these guys have
great agents that don't lie to them. That's one thing
about me. I would never change my selection as an agent.
I had Drew Rosenhouse, and the reason why I had
Drew from day one was at a time where a
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lot of guys talk out of both sides of their mouth,
and Drew met with me, you know, December of twenty
ten and told me, honestly, He's like, hey, listen, there's
a twenty five percent chance you go in the first round.
There are some character issues. You will have to answer
some questions about what has happened over the last four
years while you were in college, and teams are going
to want to know about you. And you know, there's
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a fifty percent chance that you're in the second you know,
that's where I think you're at. And there's a you know,
twenty five percent chance that you slip and you end
up in the third. And he was spot on. You know,
I went in the second round. So but yet still,
even with those expectations as a kid, you're reading all
these draft boards and you're reading about all these different linemen.
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And I watched James Carpenter to get drafted to Seattle
very late in the first round, and you know, my
fist went through a wall, Ryan, and I punched a
hole right through that thing. And you walked out of
the house in front of everybody in the house. Right.
That was a big offensive line class, and there were
seven guys that ended up going before me, and it
pissed me off. And when I saw you time and
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time again, Gabe Kareemi, not Danny Watkins, wrong Canadian. I
was the right Canadian to be taken into draft. You know,
Philadelphia taking him. Derek Cherrot goes to Green Bay, you know,
pissed off. Even trained with him while I was down there.
He was a Texas A and M guy. But it
just you sit there and you see guys go, and
you know, I'm paying attention to their draft board. I'm
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watching a little bit of film that I've been able
to watch on them, kind of scouting the competition, and
I just had enough when I saw James Comport. Nothing
against James because James is a really good friend of mine,
and I thought he had a heck of a career.
You know, I cut my career short after I had
my first son in twenty eighteen. When a lot of
people thought that I should be playing another three four years.
I was like, no, you know, with the injuries that
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I had, and I chose that I wanted to longevity
and you know, I'm going to take it and punt
on it because my body feels okay enough and you know,
kind of watching the Brandish says year hit the year before, Yeah,
and you know, I had a concussion that was really
really bad that I had symptoms that I didn't talk
about with people for nine months after and telling coach
(28:01):
I'm good to go, but it's still have an issue.
So you know, but the draft is where a lot
is going to go on for these young men over
the next couple of days. And I just really hope
that their agents were honest with them, because if you're
a decent agent, you can kind of really get a
good tell on where your guys getting ready to go.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
You know, meditation helps with anger. I just throwing that
out there in case.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Yeah, anger management helps to Ryan. But you know I
did two stands at the University of I mean that
still didn't work.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Still there were Yeah, it wasn't enough.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
It wasn't enough.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Yeah, I wondered now because I remember famously Alma Rossi
Brown he keeps track of and he has memorized and
he puts a list up in his locker or whatever
of all the players taken in front of him. Did
you do a similar thing, Like it was your mindset
with all of those offensive tackles taken ahead of you
that you were like, I'm going to track these guys
and see how their careers go.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
Yeah, you see, like it was easier it was. It
was the second round pick, so seven offensive lineman, like
I know exactly who those guys were absolutely followed their career,
Like Derek Shurad did not play for Green Bay for
until year three. You look at Gabe Kareemi. By year three,
the Chicago Bears were off of him. He actually got
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he got let go. He ended up playing for Tampa Bay. Right,
he didn't even make it through his first contract. You
look at James Carpenter, started off at right tackle, ended
up getting kicked into guard at the second year. Right
where I'm looking at, man, I'm still playing right tackle.
So by my second third year, I like to think,
you know, this is not self soccer or anything, but
when I got moved from the right tackle position, I
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was the top three right tackle in the NFL at
that point. I mean, Roncles took a while to kind
of replace me, and it is what it is. I'm
very sure a pretty good human that was a pretty
good player at that position at that point. But so yes,
I did kind of keep track and follow and see
what was going on and the injuries with Danny Watkins
and watching his career and just like, yeah, you know, right,
(29:56):
idea picking a Canadian just wrong, Canadian Philadelphia and that
I was going to go to Philadelphia, So definitely watch
guys and watch guys that I was close with as well.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
So i'd even say that the closest they've come to
replacing you really is Mike McGlinchey right now. That's the
most solidified the position has been since you were right tackle. Yep,
everybody else has been you bring him in, I mean
the middle like Watson's of the world, Donald Stevenson, and
it's not anything directly associated with them. The Broncos themselves
have had so many changes with coaches and coaching staff
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and the way that they're teaching this thing, and the
fact that Gary Bules has stuck around through all of
that is pretty remarkable in a lot of ways. But yeah,
I mean, i'd say, if we're being completely fair about
all of it and trying to be fair to those players,
the closest they've come to solidifying it since you, it's
a lot of years.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
I mean, what you said, what was I love?
Speaker 4 (30:47):
I stopped playing right tackle after the twenty thirteen.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Since I gobaly think about that, man, is it over
a decade, it turns out that position.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Yeah, there's a lot of a lot of guys trying
to be plugged in in that position. And you know,
I like to think that I benefited from the guys
that were around me. A guy like Chris Cooper that
literally is amazing, you know, told me everything and babysit me.
Was a guy that was like, hey, this is what
you got to do. I watched Chris Cooper break the huddle,
tell me what I need to do, look back at
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Tim Tebow, tell him if we're good or not, and
then have to take care of his job. And he
did that for about eighty percent of the snaps in
twenty eleven until like week fifteen. It was like, dude,
he just stopped talking to me in the middle of
the game. I was like, Coop, what I got? What?
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Coop?
Speaker 4 (31:32):
What do I got?
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Coop?
Speaker 4 (31:33):
What do I got? Green eighty?
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Coop?
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Coop, what's that? And he looks at me and into
plays like I'm done not telling you what you got anymore.
We've been doing this long enough. You got to figure
it out, dude. I was like, okay, Well, at that
point I kind of knew the offense. I was kind
of just making sure I was checking in with him.
But you know, he was a great mentor, and I'm
Brian Clady right, and the JD. Waltons and the tenacity
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that he brought into the different ways Beatles, and you know,
we had a really good offensive line that kind of
stuck together for a couple of years
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Ah, guys? Uh, what an honor and the feeling is
very mutual. I'm honored to be on with you guys,
so thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Absolutely well. So we talked about at the very beginning of.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
The show a little bit of the saltiness we feel
after staying up super late last night to watch our
beloved Nuggets and Avalanche lose in the postseason.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I am not so worried.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
About the Avalanche, but I do think some of the
Cracks are showing a bit with the Nuggets. Where do
you sit with both those teams in their respective series?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Yeah, I got to agree with you. The Abs, I
mean they look like a wagon to me. And the
biggest thing with them is the depth. You see guys
like Logan O'Connor with four points in two games, Charlie Coyle,
all these guys stepping up. That's how they won the Cup,
you know, first time around. Besides of course the superstars
and Mackenzie Blackwood has just been sensational. It's still crazy
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to me that this is his first ever playoff series.
If the Avs signed this guy and basically said we
want you to, you know, take us to a cup,
never him having played in the playoffs and clearly showing
the foresight that they saw something. He's been amazing and
you know, a good goalie can win you a cup.
So I still feel great about the ADS. I think
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that's just going to be, you know, a bloodbath kind
of a series. I never expected it to be super easy,
so I'm really I'm not overly concerned with the Avs,
especially then of course you got the impending Landy coming
back as well. Now that I think it's different, this
is this is a tough series, really interesting. I had
Dan Sole on my show yesterday and I asked him
his perspective of Game two and he said, in his opinion,
(01:53):
he felt like Game two was the most important one
to win. You know, obviously you can take that for
what it is, but in terms of heading out to La,
he felt like having a two nothing lead was really crucial.
And I think when you look at Kawhi, I don't
know if it's sustainable. I don't know if we're gonna
see that kind of a performance from Kawhi every night.
But to do what he did with basically three hands
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in his face every single shot, you got him. You know,
James Harden a little bit more inconsistent, but the Clippers
are a really good team, and they're a solid shooting team.
There's a lot of other guys that have been really
stepping up. A guy like Bat I'm just trusting that
that's a guy that I think could, you know, be
a thorn in the side. And you mentioned I think
the biggest concern with the Nuggets is gonna be consistency.
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You know, obviously, turnovers are the death of you in
any sport. Clippers had twenty in the first game they lost.
Don't gets had twenty in the second game they lost.
So I'm not out on the Nuggets, but I do
agree I think this is gonna be a really really
tough series, and I think you're gonna have to consistently
get more. We did see more from Michael Porter Junior.
We need even more from Michael Porter Junior. Going forward.
Everyone's gonna have to be on because they are going
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to keep doubling and tripling Yokic, and I think they
feel confident that the Nuggets are not always going to,
you know, be able to make those buckets. So it's
going to come down to defense taking care of the ball,
but also can you make your shots? Can you make
the most of the opportunities playing Yokic the entire second half,
I don't love it. It's not ideal, right, So I
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think you're you're you're spot on there. We're seeing some cracks,
But that all being said, still think I'm not out
on them. I still think they could win the series.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Romieh When I look at the game of hockey, it's
always been traditionally a sport where you see a lot
of movement, where guys are getting traded, they're walking down
to the next locker room and you know, welcome to
the new team and get running to face off against
their old team. Look at the Abs, particularly doing what
kind of the Lakers have been trying to do the
last couple of years where you see this kind of
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complete overhaul of their team in the middle of the season,
and it's working in the favor of the ABS right now,
playing really, really well. You talked about Blackwood and just
standing on his head even though last night to ass
take a loss. I think that he's going to be
great for this team for years to come and go
out and get him to get his backup. But the
movement that we saw the Abs do this year, do
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you think we're going to see that become a little
bit more common in the NHL where there's a lot
of guys just playing for a team during the season,
and I'm kind of you tighten it down as you
go on and you solidify some spots, but just a
lot of Hey, we're going to trade for this guy,
We're going to move this guy, We're going to go
in this direction to kind of shore up all of
our lines. Is that the new ANNHL? In your opinion?
Speaker 3 (04:36):
You know, I think he has to. No, I know,
And the reason I say no is because the NHL
salary cap is theselm As salary cap in sports. It's
so tight you guys have such little movement that it
just doesn't necessarily allow them. I think what the Abs
did in this salary cap, with the salary cap is incredible,
the moves that they were able to make, and of
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course the Miko Ranton in trade, which one had happened.
I was among the men that were like, what on
earth is happening. You don't often have the opportunity where
you can offload a superstar like that and then bring
in such a hal so I do think it's a
little bit of a rare situation. Normally you can bring
in a couple pieces. But at the same token, this
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does seem to be the recipe because if you go
back to the year when they won the Cup, it
did a very similar thing, and they brought in really
really key guys around the deadline, you know, even a
guy like ar torri Lekin, and they brought in really
key pieces. They added a lot of key depths. But
then you looked at kind of the next year and
they were strapped with the salary cap, and then of
course there was all sorts of situational things with Val
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and with Gabe, but they were they couldn't make those
same moves really until kind of this year, So I
think it's salary cap dependent. I think it's situational, and
I think this Mico rand In trade was so unusual
to see a guy like that get moved at that point.
But look what the ads have done with it. All
you can do is give the front office an A plus.
They completely nailed it.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Romy Bean joining us here, last couple questions for you, Romie,
I want to ask you about CEU. Obviously you've been
covering this team for quite some time. Boy, what a
weekend for see with a spring game retiring the numbers.
I'm sure that was quite the scene. I thought it
was interesting after though, with coach Prime, I guess rating
maybe I fit strong but frustrated by the turnout for
CU fans there at the spring game.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
What do you sort of attribute to that?
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Do you think that's maybe telling of some of the
expectations this upcoming year?
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yeah, I mean I think that that speaks to the
star power of Shador Sanders and Travis Hunter, and even
if these guys that I think fans got to know
over the past couple of years, you know, the Jimmy
Horns and Lejohntay Westerns, the Cam Sulman Craig. It was
really this group that kind of defined this era, so
the Starpower, obviously the two big guys, but so many
(06:49):
other guys that weren't on the field. This feels like
a really different or really new team, and I think
people are there's just a little less star power around
it right now. People are a little curious, a little
hesitant to maybe buy in with the quarterback situation, and
so I think it's going to be What it does
give is these kids an opportunity to really step up,
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because of course they're still going to have that big
platform around Coach Prime, and some new superstars might be
born very early into next season. But I think the
hype right now has to almost be rebuilt back up
without these guys and without a generational Heisman winner in
Travis Hunter, and obviously having the Jersey retirement, which we
created a lot of conversation one way or another. But
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you brought a little of that star power back and
I think that probably did help boost ticket sales a
little more. I think they were a little bit low.
So it's going to be interesting to see how does
that unfold during the season and who's going to kind
of emerge as some new superstars potentially, you know, early
in the season.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
So, Romie, where do you stand with the retiring of
the jerseys? I mean, is it validated now because of
that star power and the turnout that we've seen the
last couple year and just kind of all the things
that you're saying about Shadora and Travis on Earn and
what they brought to see you the last couple of
years they've been here.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
You know, I think that there's a lot of different
ways that you can look at it. Obviously the timing
that not waiting. But for me as a CU alum,
and I know some people might disagree with us, but
I put this on CEU. People are upset that the
on figures number two wasn't retired. Whose fault of that?
Why was the on figure's number not retired? Why was
it available you know for Shador at that point? Why
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is Alfred Williams not on there? I think that to me,
this is a fault of the university and with the alumni.
I'm happy to say that I feel like this was
one of those There's a lot of pieces you can argue,
and I think the timing, of course, and the not
of a wait not waiting period is something to be said.
But even you look at how long they waited for
Rashon Zalam and you and you know, unfortunately so many
(08:51):
years after his heisman and after his death. And I
think that, to me, that's on the university. It's that
these guys that aren't in that are rightfully frustrated they
should have been in, And that's on the school that
they never put them in in the first place. And
what I hope this does is to set the precedent
that let's not continue this. Let's make sure that these
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guys from the past are getting honored and we're not
waiting decades. So, you know, everybody has a different opinion,
but honestly, that's kind of where I fall on.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Romi. You're the best. Appreciate the time as always, Thank you, Thanks.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Romy I appreciate you guys. We'll see at the draft.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
It sounds good Romie underscore being on Twitter. Yeah, Robie
talking about the as I mean more or less agreed, right,
We talked about them in the first hour before about
the Abs. Feel good about where they're at, especially.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
With their goalie play.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
And I love the point that you brought up there
about maybe there is something to the way Chris McFarland
has gone about this season that other teams, as we
often see parody, right, other teams will take a look
at and say, boy, you know he went into the season,
you had questions at the goalie. He said, you know what,
We're just go to blow out that entire room. We're
gonna get a whole new goalie room. And oh you
(10:03):
have questions about this, all right, We're gonna trade one
of our star players in order to add depth to
the roster and give ourselves a better shot at having
death into the second and third and even in the
fourth lines.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Yeah, Houdini, I mean, watch the step back, watch the
musician work. Chris McFarland got it done, man, And there
was some headge scratching moments. You know, Romy talks about Miko.
I'm still I'm watching Miko last night. I'm like, yeah,
I can't believe we had I can't believe we let
him go and not even like a massive effect on
yesterday's game. But I'm just watching a very talented player
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who I'm saying, man, he's got a lot of years.
But that's kind of where and that's why Chris McFarland
gets paid the big bugs And that's why I can't
be a GM. I would be running that thing under
you know, emotion and feeling right and y know, how
much does it how much years does the guy have left?
And where you got to kind of understand that you
are getting ready to be in a tough spot. You know,
(10:58):
when his contract is up, and what does it look
like at re signing him and you know the pieces
in the locker room that you already do have, do
you is this thing going to drag out as well?
So I think it was the right move for that
when you have so many different question marks. But for me,
I'm just looking at NHL and what it's always been.
(11:19):
You know, you look at last night every time that
you saw that whistle and you see guys kind of
tussled up and locked up, and you're like, man, yeah,
I be careful. I'm like, I'm looking at all the
ass player, I'm like, pull back, just he's back right.
Don't want to end up in the box right now.
Don't want to hurt this team. And you know, so
the playoff hockey is so drastically different than the regular season,
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and yesterday I'm seeing four lines that I feel very
good about, and I think Dallas was a lot more
desperate and was able to outlast the Avalanche. Let's see
if you could do that here now, now the series
comes back to Colorado right where the air is a
little bit thinner, and credit to Dallas and get it
done and figure it out a way to get it.
(12:03):
But I still am very confident in this Avalanche team.
And there's a lot of great hockey being played right now,
and I'm watching the Avalanche continue to take steps forward
and develop as a team.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
But they're gonna have to stay with the emotional momentum
that Dallas is going to continue to bring because they
are they lost their home ice. Yeah, like, whatever you
need to accomplish, you did, because you did split in Dallas.
You tilted home ice back in your favor if you're
the Avalanche. So Dallas is going to continue to play desperate.
They had to win that game, but they're probably gonna
say we got to split. Now back here in Colorado.
(12:35):
That's going to be another desperation. And you saw in
the third and fourth period specific well third in the
overtime period specifically, because.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Dallas had that thing tilted, the.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Ice was clearly on the other side, and it felt
like it.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Was only a matter of time. To your point.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
In the first hour, it felt like inevitably they're going
to get one of these pucks past Mackenzie Blackwood, who
is just really playing awesome.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
I mean, you look at the box score. You say, man,
you're lending four goals. Yeah, yeah, that doesn't tell you.
That doesn't tell you nowhere near the story of last night.
When I look at that and you know thirty four saves, right,
I mean, so getting it done. I look at the
Avs in this way. Now you have a unique opportunity.
(13:18):
You can break the spirit of that whole organization. You
could break the will of that fan base. Can you
get too, Can you get these two that's going to
be here at Ballerina over the next couple of days,
And that's how you take that fan base out of it.
You know, I watched games on mute. I don't you know,
ever since I decided to be analysts and I wanted
(13:39):
to do radio, and I said, okay, don't want anybody
else form in my opinion. So whenever I'm watching games,
I'm watching it on mute. Still hated the fact that
I had to go from I was going back from
TV to TV last night. Don't want to do that.
We got to figure out a way. Whenever you got
two teams in the playoffs, they're playing at the same time.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
TV fired up last night. I get to watch them
both at the same time. It was amazing.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
No, I still I had it like that too, Ryan
at first, where it was just on one TV and
I got this nice little cool setup for when I'm
doing ESPN Radio and I'm able to kind of watch
multiple TVs. I got two TVs up there, and YouTube
TV got the quad screen. When the NFL's plan, it's unbelievable,
and they check it out if you haven't, they checked
it out before. I'm telling you, if you're a non fan,
(14:23):
you're not going to go wrong. But yesterday I still
found myself, you know, telling myself, you know, scoop back over. Oh,
you you're splitting it. You're leaning too much, too much
towards the hockey TV right now. You're not watching both
games right and ended up missing some some key factors
where I had to go back and rewatch the Nuggets
game later on because I'm a hockey fan before a
(14:44):
basketball fan, But you just look at this whole thing.
Dang right, where are we going with this? You know? Yeah,
just talking about the abs and what they were able
to do, right, And I think that you can really
sign lends that Dallas crowd if you take care of
business in game three, in game four and you definitely
(15:05):
have the talent and the roster, get it done. VHS
VHS and writing down the words the really Yeah, listen
to a couple of bars and pause and write down
the words because I wanted to know the words right.
And you know, then you get older and other priorities,
(15:27):
and you have a couple of concussions, and now you
don't know any of the words. So yeah, I watched
it about once a year. I think I've only seen
it twice in your whole life.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
In my whole life, there are plenty of other movies
that I watched.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
You look like like a cousin of first or second
cousin of Cheddar Bob Man.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Right, I'm gonna say it's a compliment, and it is
a compliment for sure.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
Man.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Ben Ben tends to wears be Rabbit outfit in study
every so often, with the hood up over his head
and Yeah, that's that's pretty good stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
No, I like that movie.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
It's funny people are talking a lot about the movie
Draft Day on Twitter this week because a lot of
people that get excited about the draft.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
You've watched the movie Draft? D You ever seen that?
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Yeah? Yeah, I liked it. Gets a flaws, Yeah, I
absolutely got some flaws That draft experiences are so different, right,
and I think it really is all You could find
out a lot about a person and their priorities, right.
You know. The one that I always like to look
at is Joe Thomas. And you know, when he was
(16:36):
getting ready to get drafted and he knew it was
going to be a top three pick. I think what
did he go, like two or something like that. I
don't know exactly what he went to the Browns, but
you know he talked about it after and he says,
you know, this is one of the very he went three. Okay,
but he talked about like why he wasn't there in
the green room and I just found it fascinated, And
(16:57):
he talked about this was one of the last opportunities
for a while. And he doesn't you know, grew up fishing,
and he grew up around his dad and that's what
they like to do. That was how they bonded. And
it's like, I'm getting ready to go into a new
world of playing in the NFL, and I don't know
how many more times I'm going to get to do
this or how often I'm going to get to do this.
And I thought that was so cool. Which now you
(17:20):
fast forward to the time I got drafted now in
twenty eleven, and it made me rethink what I wanted
to do for the draft. So I ended up in Toronto, Canada.
It was going to be the last kind of opportunity
I looked at where I could get my mom, my brother,
I could get all the family, all the childhood friends
and people that I really valued in my life too
(17:42):
in one place and kind of have this experience together.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
So did you know the Broncos were interested in you?
No time, No, I thought the Broncos were out.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
You know Dave Magazu rest in peace, he was offensive
line coach for the Broncos. He actually called me, I'd
like to say, around like February March, like during the
draft prep. And you know, you get multiple opportunities to
meet with teams during that where they could come and
fly down to work you out. They could visit with
(18:13):
you at the cut Combine, they could come to your
pro day. I thought I was going to Pittsburgh. I
knew I was going to Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh was on me
every step of the way, whether it was working me
out in Miami, flying me into Pittsburgh as one of
the top guys to visit, meeting with them at the combine.
They even called me before the Broncos picked me and
Dave Magazine had called me set up a workout, calling
(18:36):
me back about five days later and canceled the workout.
I was just like, okay, as the Broncos are out, yeah,
you know, even though he said, hey, you know, we
are still high on you, I was just looking at
other teams and comparing what other teams were doing. In
that moment, I was like, Okay, you might be high
on me, but these other teams are putting their money
where their mouth is, right and they're showing me what's up.
So I got a call from the three to zero
(18:58):
three number, which, ironically enough, on draft night, my American
phone not really working in Toronto, Canada at the service
and a reception, so forwarded my phone to my cousin's phone,
and you know, I just say, hey, just give me
the phone. If you see a number calling, it's not
a Canadian number and it's his phone. So when your
(19:21):
phone is forwarded, even though you have saved all, you
know the numbers in your phone of the person that's calling,
because that's what you're doing, right. They're in that whole process.
You meet with this coach, you meet with that coach,
you're saving their number, right. Of course this coach is
from this organization. So a three O three number pops
up and my cousin comes running and he's like, there's
(19:41):
a three O three number on This is not me.
Like everybody kind of calls me. I have the number
and answer the phone is Orlando. It's John Oway. You're
running to become a Denver Bronco. Oh yeah, but not
know the Broncos are still in right, So yeah, my
draft experience very different. And then the Broncos picked at
forty five and it wasn't Orlando Franklin. After I told
(20:02):
the whole house that I was getting ready to get drafted,
and I'm about twenty seconds into that, somebody realized that,
oh they have back to back picks you have back
to back picks. We're still there. We're still there. And
then they picked me up forty six.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
That's incredible. That's so cool.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Yeah, And I honestly, I can't get enough of the
Draft night stories. And I think it's really cool. I mean,
I think it's really cool. I talked to Ryan Harris yesterday.
He was talking about being at his house and how
nervous he was and he left to go to Dairy
Queen because he got tired of waiting around and everybody
asking him for food.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Well, and all these people are peppering him. His neighbors
are coming over like, oh, what are you hearing?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
What are you hearing? He's like, I'm hearing nothing. Stop
talking to me.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Leavy alone, and you know, again, so so unique to
every single person. As you mentioned, you're in Canada hanging
out with your family. Should Dor Sanders, for example, it's
going to be hanging out with his family does not
want to be there at Draft night. Von Miller, who
was taking second overall by the Broncos. Susie Wargen interviewed
a bunch of former Broncos former players, and we'll be
(21:00):
playing these throughout the draft, but Here's her conversation with
von Miller about his draft experience, the.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Draft stories with Broncos sideline reporters Suzie Wartsiz.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
He's a two time Super Bowl champ and a Super
Bowl MVP will someday be in the Hall of Fame
as well as the Broncos Ring of Fame, and that
would be Von Miller.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Von, how are you?
Speaker 4 (21:21):
How do you? How's it going?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
It's going good?
Speaker 7 (21:24):
Hey.
Speaker 6 (21:24):
So let's go back to April twenty eighth, twenty eleven.
You're a Bucket Award winner coming out of Texas A
and M. Cam Newton goes first to the Carolina Panthers.
Broncos are on the clock. John Fox and company select you.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
The Denver Broncos select Von Miller, Mine Backer Texas A
and M.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
What do you remember about that night at Radio City
Music Hall.
Speaker 7 (21:47):
I remember having on my family, you know, with me,
there was a lot of speculation about me going to
number three.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
And the Broncos taking Marcia Darius at two, and it
wasn't until the drafts that night until they made that.
So I was kind off, you know, Guard, it was
a surprise and.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
You had no idea.
Speaker 7 (22:04):
I had no idea, and I knew that the Broncos
had a really good team that just had lost some
games that pushed them, you know, to you know, that
draft pick, on the number two draft pick.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
So you know, I always wanted to go to Denver,
but they had the.
Speaker 7 (22:15):
Number two pick and I didn't know I was gonna
make it, and it was just a play of surprise
on drafted.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
Was there anybody Vaughn after you got drafted that you
called to maybe thank for being a part of your Journeyman?
Everybody saw it on TV because you were the second pick,
so it wasn't any surprise to anyone. But did you
take that moment to thank somebody?
Speaker 7 (22:33):
Yeah, you know, John, I was John Alway's first pick,
so I always you know, in order to you know,
prove him right.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
And you know, he was a Hall of fame that
the Duke of Denver, you know.
Speaker 7 (22:43):
John Alway, and that was his first pick of the GM.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
So I always wanted to not only prove him right,
to prove myself right. And you know, just I know
not that I appreciate them picking me at number two
is very first pick of the GM.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
I love that.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
Von Miller, thank you for sharing your draft story.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
I appreciate. Thanks, so is Draft.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
Stories on the KOA Broncos Radio network.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
That's really cool and we can't wait. We have many,
many of those. First of all, shout out to Susie
Wargen and aj Alan Jackson for putting those together.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
But yeah, we have Let me give you a quick rundown.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Peyton Manning, Von Miller, Trell Davis, Gary Kubiak, Steve Alwater,
Daniel Graham, Steve Foley, Rick up Church, Lewis Grant, Oh sorry,
Louis Wright, and Simon Fletcher's the my granted producer for
a second.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
We have a great, great lineup.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Added me to that list there. It is too because
I saw Susie as I was outside in the parking
lot earlier today, rolled down the window as she was
walking by my car. Let's just say what's up. And
she actually got me on that and we're gonna set
it up. We're nice. I have a conversation to get
me on that list as well.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Very cool, well, fantastic, But again, we're gonna be airing
those throughout our draft draft process.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
But that's a little bit of a taste of what
you're going to hear.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
And I remember that Jammy Marcel Darius was in the
conversation there at the time. He ended up going the
next pick to the Buffalo Bills. Cam Newton went number
one overall, and it's sort of fascinating to see kind
of how that all, you know, shook out, and oftentimes
at the top of the draft, everybody goes out to
the quarterback. It's not to say that the Carolina Panthers
made a mistake. They got an MVP out of him.
(24:15):
He took them to a super Bowl. But the longevity
of von Miller's career, the Broncos certainly and the other
teams including the Rams who got championship with him, are
pretty thrilled that von Miller was ended up being the
player that he is.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Yeah, I think if you're Carolina in that situation, you
got to make that move, right. I mean, you got
a new head coach because John Fox had just left
and came to the Broncos as well. So and then
you got a guy like Cam Newton that has been
so good, right. I mean you heard about the Remlins
when he was back there at Florida, and then you
kind of seen t Bow and what took off. So
Cam had to pivot and go in a different direction,
(24:48):
but absolutely lit it up in the SEC and was
a hey, big man, right. I mean, I was on
a visit with the Minnesota Vikings, and Minnesota does did
things back then a lot different than every team. Minnesota
brought in all their guys for their draft visits all
at the same time. So you have this one weekend
there's like fifty sixty guys and we're all hanging out
(25:11):
and just getting to know each other, and Cam walks
right by me. I'm like, dang, that's a good looking
d N man. DN looks like he could go like
very good body fat. And then I realized the quarterback.
I'm just like, oh, okay, you know, but the draft,
you know, good luck to everybody that's involved in it.
(25:31):
There's so much emotions, there's so many highs and lows
that happened through that time. I hope these guys have
great agents that don't lie to them. That's one thing
about me. I would never change my selection as an agent.
I had Drew Rosenhouse, and the reason why I had
Drew from day one was at a time where a
(25:52):
lot of guys talk out of both sides of their mouth,
and Drew met with me, you know, December of twenty
ten and told me, honestly, He's like, hey, listen, there's
a twenty five percent chance you go in the first round.
There are some character issues. You will have to answer
some questions about what has happened over the last four
years while you were in college, and teams are going
to want to know about you. And you know, there's
(26:12):
a fifty percent chance that you're in the second you know,
that's where I think you're at. And there's a you know,
twenty five percent chance that you slip and you end
up in the third. And he was spot on. You know,
I went in the second round. So but yet still,
even with those expectations as a kid, you're reading all
these draft boards and you're reading about all these different linemen.
(26:33):
And I watched James Carpenter to get drafted to Seattle
very late in the first round, and you know, my
fist went through a wall, Ryan, and I punched a
hole right through that thing. And you walked out of
the house in front of everybody in the house. Right.
That was a big offensive line class, and there were
seven guys that ended up going before me, and it
pissed me off. And when I saw you time and
(26:55):
time again, Gabe Kareemi, not Danny Watkins, wrong Canadian. I
was the right Canadian to be taken into draft. You know,
Philadelphia taking him. Derek Cherrot goes to Green Bay, you know,
pissed off. Even trained with him while I was down there.
He was a Texas A and M guy. But it
just you sit there and you see guys go, and
you know, I'm paying attention to their draft board. I'm
(27:17):
watching a little bit of film that I've been able
to watch on them, kind of scouting the competition, and
I just had enough when I saw James Comport. Nothing
against James because James is a really good friend of mine,
and I thought he had a heck of a career.
You know, I cut my career short after I had
my first son in twenty eighteen. When a lot of
people thought that I should be playing another three four years.
I was like, no, you know, with the injuries that
(27:39):
I had, and I chose that I wanted to longevity
and you know, I'm going to take it and punt
on it because my body feels okay enough and you know,
kind of watching the Brandish says year hit the year before, Yeah,
and you know, I had a concussion that was really
really bad that I had symptoms that I didn't talk
about with people for nine months after and telling coach
(28:01):
I'm good to go, but it's still have an issue.
So you know, but the draft is where a lot
is going to go on for these young men over
the next couple of days. And I just really hope
that their agents were honest with them, because if you're
a decent agent, you can kind of really get a
good tell on where your guys getting ready to go.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
You know, meditation helps with anger. I just throwing that
out there in case.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Yeah, anger management helps to Ryan. But you know I
did two stands at the University of I mean that
still didn't work.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Still there were Yeah, it wasn't enough.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
It wasn't enough.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Yeah, I wondered now because I remember famously Alma Rossi
Brown he keeps track of and he has memorized and
he puts a list up in his locker or whatever
of all the players taken in front of him. Did
you do a similar thing, Like it was your mindset
with all of those offensive tackles taken ahead of you
that you were like, I'm going to track these guys
and see how their careers go.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
Yeah, you see, like it was easier it was. It
was the second round pick, so seven offensive lineman, like
I know exactly who those guys were absolutely followed their career,
Like Derek Shurad did not play for Green Bay for
until year three. You look at Gabe Kareemi. By year three,
the Chicago Bears were off of him. He actually got
(29:13):
he got let go. He ended up playing for Tampa Bay. Right,
he didn't even make it through his first contract. You
look at James Carpenter, started off at right tackle, ended
up getting kicked into guard at the second year. Right
where I'm looking at, man, I'm still playing right tackle.
So by my second third year, I like to think,
you know, this is not self soccer or anything, but
when I got moved from the right tackle position, I
(29:34):
was the top three right tackle in the NFL at
that point. I mean, Roncles took a while to kind
of replace me, and it is what it is. I'm
very sure a pretty good human that was a pretty
good player at that position at that point. But so yes,
I did kind of keep track and follow and see
what was going on and the injuries with Danny Watkins
and watching his career and just like, yeah, you know, right,
(29:56):
idea picking a Canadian just wrong, Canadian Philadelphia and that
I was going to go to Philadelphia, So definitely watch
guys and watch guys that I was close with as well.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
So i'd even say that the closest they've come to
replacing you really is Mike McGlinchey right now. That's the
most solidified the position has been since you were right tackle. Yep,
everybody else has been you bring him in, I mean
the middle like Watson's of the world, Donald Stevenson, and
it's not anything directly associated with them. The Broncos themselves
have had so many changes with coaches and coaching staff
(30:27):
and the way that they're teaching this thing, and the
fact that Gary Bules has stuck around through all of
that is pretty remarkable in a lot of ways. But yeah,
I mean, i'd say, if we're being completely fair about
all of it and trying to be fair to those players,
the closest they've come to solidifying it since you, it's
a lot of years.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
I mean, what you said, what was I love?
Speaker 4 (30:47):
I stopped playing right tackle after the twenty thirteen.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Since I gobaly think about that, man, is it over
a decade, it turns out that position.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Yeah, there's a lot of a lot of guys trying
to be plugged in in that position. And you know,
I like to think that I benefited from the guys
that were around me. A guy like Chris Cooper that
literally is amazing, you know, told me everything and babysit me.
Was a guy that was like, hey, this is what
you got to do. I watched Chris Cooper break the huddle,
tell me what I need to do, look back at
(31:17):
Tim Tebow, tell him if we're good or not, and
then have to take care of his job. And he
did that for about eighty percent of the snaps in
twenty eleven until like week fifteen. It was like, dude,
he just stopped talking to me in the middle of
the game. I was like, Coop, what I got? What?
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Coop?
Speaker 4 (31:32):
What do I got?
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Coop?
Speaker 4 (31:33):
What do I got? Green eighty?
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Coop?
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Coop, what's that? And he looks at me and into
plays like I'm done not telling you what you got anymore.
We've been doing this long enough. You got to figure
it out, dude. I was like, okay, Well, at that
point I kind of knew the offense. I was kind
of just making sure I was checking in with him.
But you know, he was a great mentor, and I'm
Brian Clady right, and the JD. Waltons and the tenacity
(31:58):
that he brought into the different ways Beatles, and you know,
we had a really good offensive line that kind of
stuck together for a couple of years
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