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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wednesday, everybody draft massive, if you will. Very excited to
be here with you on a Wednesday. We hear a
lot of that. Tomorrow night at six o'clock, we were
very excited. Dave, Logan, Ryan over, Shelby Harrison, Shooty, what's
up Shell? Good to see you man, Good to see
you too.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Well, I will be dressed a little bit nicer tomorrow,
day one of the draft. Looking forward to that, Dave,
my friend, Good to see you. Just just dressing up here,
dressing for radio?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Really, what what does that?
Speaker 1 (00:30):
It's the first It.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Look like.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
It'll be on social media's telling me that it'll be
on camera. So yes, it's just a button down or
a jacket.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Yeah, the first day draft, we're gonna be the Broncos facility.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I want to look like I know what I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I don't know. Maybe that's how we're a flatel every day.
All right, you look good, Thank you, Dave. I appreciate it.
Good to see you back, my friend.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Well, I tell you what you know.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Yesterday, yes, Shay, or maybe it was a Monday, I
was feeling great. The thunder, the tee wolves, Oh my goodness, gracious,
I was prepared. I was like, it's like if Dave
was here, he wouldn't wouldn't hear the end of it?
And then and then the te Wolves were terrible last night.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Yeah, and last I will tell you this, if which
I'm not, if I were a Lakers fan and I
know the Lakers, it's it's one one. Now they got
to go find a way to win in Minnesota. And
I'm not saying they're not capable of winning a game,
but I would not feel very good about this series.
I'm just telling you, right, I mean, they shot lights out.
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If you look at the Lakers scoring last night, and
I was in Nashville but got back in time to
watch most of that game in my hotel room.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I think they had.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Thirty four the first quarter and then went down every
single quarter twenty four. They have thirteen points in the
fourth quarter, and now you say, well, they're up by sixteen.
I understand that. Here's the dilemma. Other than Luca Hey,
They've got to shoot a great percentage outside because there's
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nothing inside.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
They don't get rebounds.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
I mean they I think Minnesota is going to find
a way to win this series.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
How painful was that? That's pretty painful?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Although My thing with you in Minnesota was that you
were fearful that the Nuggets might run into them.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
I am glad that they're decide the bracket. That's a
good thing. If they run into them there, it's in
the conference finals, that'd be great. Won't bring up the Bucks.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Story about let's talk about it.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
No, don't to this.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
On my mind for for a minute. It's breaking my heart.
I watched this sort of plane. I'm up in the
air and I'm watching my team get beat down.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Game.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yes, the score thirteen straight points.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
In the fourth.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Yeah, and that's great, except when you're.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Down twenty fifteen.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
No, it's just the issue is it's this consistency. But man,
they're not playing any defense. There's no defense being played.
And I don't know what it is by when the
Pacers play the Bucks, but they just become a bunch
of Reggie Millers out there and just hit every single shot.
But I guess it helps when you're not playing any defense.
So you know, it's it's you know.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
In Pascal and nim Hart are closing things out for you. Yeah, right,
you crawled back to within like one bucket and.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Then and then they go drop like seven straight out
of there, and it's just.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Like, yo, well, let's not act like is not a
score though.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
He's not the one you like, I guess for them
if it's not Halliburton, I'm thinking, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
But but but.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Nim Hart, Like, it's just like man, McConnell's going like
just balling doing.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
I wish the Nuggets had con we both he would be,
you know, just because he's a great field.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
I didn't see you in the game, but I'm not
even sure what they're shooting. But McConnell strikes me as
a guy that you can count on.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
If if you.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Swing the ball out of a double team, like oh,
the joker gets a lot of and then you swing
it maybe a couple of times and you get an
open look, I would bet McConnell would be a guy
that would knock down more than he missed.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
And range I'm talking about his mine has been shot
limits except without the height about every.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Time he interesting in comparison, every time.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
He shoots him in range, it's money, money, money, every time.
So you know, it's they have a great group of
role players that knows their role. And I think that
is truly, like the most important thing for these playoff
teams is people coming in and knowing the role. If
you're not a scorer, don't try to be a scorer.
If you're if you're a guy that's supposed to facilitate
the offense, go and do that. And I think that's
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where the Bucks are struggling because obviously the shuffling lineups
with Dame coming back, and you know, it's just kind
of a confusion of who's doing what because we had
the whole last month of the season of no of
just Giannis and everybody else. Well, then we get to
the playoffs and realize that's not enough. So it'd be
very interesting to see how they respond. And that's that's
what I want to see out of Doc Rivers. This
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is I want to see something different game three that
we haven't seen game one and two because we just
would let him shoot on contested threes the whole time.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
It was nic seeing Kusma show up in the box score.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
By the way, man, you know, I was talking a
good day till you brought that.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Catch up because he played forty two minutes, not a
single point, rebound, assists, nothing, averages.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
I think Kuzma for his career is like at fourteen
or fifteen pointing, he.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Points, it's just the in there. I always said, it's
the issue with you know, trading somebody that's seen since
they don't know their role, you know. And Doc had
a point of when he said, like, it's hard to
score when nothing's really going to the plays aren't going
to you.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
So you were pumping him off. You were like, and
that's the thing.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
And I do believe that he can still be a
little you know, he has a legitimate places, a hundred
million dollar guy.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
You better hope that Milwaukee didn't come come back here
and win games three and four. You're gonna get an
earful from the big man.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I've been rooting for the Bucks.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I know you haven't.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Yo.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
No, like my people in front of these fine.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
People yesterday, that Dame being back. I was excited about that.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
That was more like here you go.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Isn't exactly like you excited exciting for me.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
He's actually at six or fifteen in the morning.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
No, I did do that? Does that he does that?
Speaker 3 (06:41):
I actually forgot. I was in the airport in Dashville.
I forgot that it's an hour. I think it's seven fifteen.
Most people are up now right like six oh eight.
Here comes a text for me. I'm like, oh god, well,
at least it.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Was like something related to the show. He wasn't like like,
you know, hey, I'm sitting here thinking about how much.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
I hate you.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
Yeah, said, I'm awake.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Those days are longer about and we'll what we're.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Texting at sixth in the morning about your your doing
the mind.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
He's getting us getting dragged a little bit.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
But here's the thing. That's what happens every draft cycle.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
They find one player that they can just kind of
just go at and try to drop his draft stock,
just purely based off of media.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Just hate.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
That said, scout hate is a scout hit. You think
it's more. It may be a combination of both, but
I do think it is. And maybe it's a handful,
maybe it's a couple or three, but I think I
think this narrative on your door is driven by scouts.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Do you believe it's just because of you know, the
they believe what they're saying thinking about that? Yeah, but no,
because you know why no, because always at this time
of year is I call it long season. This is
long season. This is a time where we're trying to
make you pass up on get.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Him and maybe, I mean maybe tomorrow night Shuedor goes
to whatever the giants. I don't see it. I don't
see I don't I don't have any idea where he goes.
Here's the deal. I think he's going to be a
good plan. I don't know how good, but a good
player in the league. It depends on kind of the
system he goes to. But he's got enough arm talent
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and athletic ability. Those are the two things he's being
knocked mostly about. I've seen guys that have had success
in the league that had that arm talent and that
kind of athletic ability. Not like great on either, but
certainly sufficient. So I'm anxious to see where he goes.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
So as he's trying to knock him like he has
high school arm talent, I'm just like yo, like he doesn't.
He doesn't become the player that he is playing the
competition that he is.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
But the league has always fallen in love with sure
arms traits always yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
And then look how that's going, Like, yes, we have
the you know the leagues Darling and Josh Allen. But
then if you look at Anthony Richardson, you know, just
the guys that you know, they fall in love with
the yard dalla, but then it's not the structure around
him that really develops him into the quarterback that they
expect him to be. And this because you can throw
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eighty yards, that's great. Can you throw a ten yard slam?
Speaker 1 (09:33):
So this is what we're referencing, by the way, in
case you guys didn't see it. So this was Tom
Peliasero yesterday he put out a story about Shador and
here's the section of the article says one long time
NFL assistant coach said his time with Sanders was quote
the worst formal interview I've ever been in in my life.
He's so entitled, He takes unnecessary secks, he never plays
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on time, his horrible body language, He blames teammates. But
the biggest thing in he is good. It didn't go
great in our interview. He wants to dictate what he's
going to do and what's best for him. He makes
you feel small.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
That sounds soft and like when you have a scout
saying something like that makes you feel small, then maybe
you need to look at yourself because there's nobody that's
going to make me feel small. You know, man, I'm
not talking about size. I'm talking about as a person, like,
nobody's gonna make me feel small just because of the
way they're acting. And for a scout to go out
and blatantly be like it makes you feel small. This
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was an assistant coach.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
This assistant coach, Well.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Then that makes me feel like you're the guy that's
getting beat up in the locker room.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
One of those.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Yeah, you're the guy getting beat up in the locker
room and you feel like your door is the personality
of the guy that was beating your ass.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
That to me sounds like a guy who is involved
in the interview. If we take him at his word,
and maybe he didn't get two or three answers that
over the years you would think you would get from
a quarterback. Okay, Chaudeur's got a different personality. I do
think there are two points in there that if he's
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being honest about it and not but heard about something else,
that I think are Okay. He said he holds the
ball too long.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
That's true. I've talked. That's absolutely true.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Now I believe you can coach that out of a
player even at the elite level, even at the NFL level.
But I think one of the reasons, I mean, there
was such an emphasis on completion percentage in Boulder that
you're holding the ball. And I'm not saying he consciously
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did this, but at times it almost felt like he'd
rather take a sack than throw an incomplete pass.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Well, that won't work in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
They don't care about your I mean, they care about it,
but they what they don't want is second and eighteen
because NFL teams, I mean, they can't can't survive. You
can't survive really at any level. So I think that's
probably a fair criticism or or analysis.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
And then he said he holds the ball too long,
and what else?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
The horrible Moody language is titled No.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I'm not going for that. There's one.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
More trait that is a physical trait from his play
last year that I think I could agree with.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
I can't remember what it was.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yeah, I'm just I'm seeing if there's anything here, but
you read it, Okay, read it again, Okay, worst formal
interview I've ever been in my life titled unnecessary sex. Okay,
never plays on time, And I think.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
That is also accurate. Part of the reason is you're
holding the ball right and so they'll they'll be depending
on where he goes. I mean, do you think he's
going to get a good, smart, talented quarterback, coach, offensive coordinator?
Speaker 1 (12:52):
You hope.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
And it's important that the thing comes out on time.
It's got to come out on time. You don't have it,
especially the next level. You don't have time. You know,
on a like a three step even if you're in
the shotgun, you know that thing's got to come out.
And a lot of times on concepts like that, if
you don't like it, throw it away, throw it away.
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So those two things I could see. The other stuff
seemed sort of petty ready to me.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Yeah, And the.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Timing, like to your point, I do think something about
the timing. You're two days away from the draft. He's
being talked about as one of the more interesting storylines
of the first round.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
We don't know where he's going to go and said
for about two months. But the level that was like
the vitrol that's coming from this, it's like I hate
you like you did my sister. I hate you, and
it's like it seems you, yeah, young coach with the sister.
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You never know this coach Now I'm older and most
of the coaches in Cleveland, so I get it.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Are you really do you point that out to him often?
Or when they I ask you to do something, you're like,
oh come on, oh.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
No, no, no, you still got you still have that respect.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Yeah, school player, you know you still have respect, but
you still got to be like, hey, like I forgot
two years older than you, like that has to be
like you remember something. I'm like, well, yeah, I was
in the league, you know what I mean. I mean,
you have thinking like a lot of guys, and it's crazy,
like I've been at Leased since twenty fourteen, and like
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it's crazy because a lot of people were like I
was you know, I was six. I was Seven's wild,
you know what I mean. So it's like it's really crazy.
Like a lot of people I know on a team,
like I've been at Leased since to fourteen, they graduate
high school.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Twas in eighteen, nineteen, twenty twenty one.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
So it's just it's it's a little different nowadays because
everybody's a lot younger than and then the coaches come
in and you know your age, like our assistant Dylone
coaches went to become the head d line coach at
Boston College. We were actually born on the exact same day,
in the exact same year. Wow, wow, on just eleven
ninety one. Yeah, so that's what said. So it's the
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older you get, the closer nage you do to your coaches.
And I just think it's hilarious because I never thought
this day.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Was going to be coming.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Well, there you go. We all have. I guess those moments, right,
all kind of catches up. By the way, speaking of
Max drafts beIN Albright that his one and only mock
will talk about that with him in about ten minutes
when he joins us in studio. Really interesting stuff, he is.
Travian Henderson going to the Broncos at pick twenty might
be absolutely right.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Oh yeah, you're saying saying, Susan just saying I thought
I had an interesting And I'm not lying.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
You're you know you you would not you know, you
know Dave No, No, well no, I don't know about
Dave No.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
But I'm just saying I wouldn't be surprised if Young
Benjamin is correct.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
So I ran a poll question on Twitter just for fun.
I said, if it comes down to Amarin Hampton versus
Trevion Henderson for the Broncos to pick twenty, who should
they take? Who do you think is winning that poll
right now?
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Henderson?
Speaker 1 (16:02):
But just barely by fifty one?
Speaker 3 (16:05):
He's he's He's got a pretty good skill set and
he's he's really good out of the backfield catching the ball,
which I think is is appealing. And it doesn't take
him long to get from one point to the other
when running the ball either, So that'll be interesting.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Do you personally taking out what you may or may
not know, do you personally like him better as a
fit for the Broncos than Omari and Hampton.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
That's a hard one only because I think he's better
in the passing game. I think he's a more viable
guy in the passing game out of the backfield sooner
than Hampton. Hampton's a powerful dude, and he can run too,
right when he when he gets going, he moves playing well.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Or forty times a little more quick.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Little trading on four four six. Yeah, well, but Hampton's
a little bigger too. He is, so I think it
depends on really what you're looking for in this offense.
And again, this is absolutely a guess, but I think
the head guy is is somebody he wants to be
able to run it, but he also likes to be
able to isolate those backs. Alvin Kamara, Yes, and throw
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it to him and then say now go tackling. And
Henderson's good in that, really good in that department.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Man. The one thing I keep hearing, and I'm not
really more lately than anything, is that, you know, the
quickness for Marion Hanton is not the same as the
other guys has. He can straight line speed and if
you want to look at just the past history of
the Sean Payton everything, he doesn't just want a guy
that could just run straight fast. He's he's real big
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on you know. And if you look at the Alvin Kamara,
alber Kamar didn't run up blazing in fast forty, but
he's one of the one of the quickest backs in
the league. And since that quickness isn't what you know,
Sean Payton actually values more than anything. And you know,
it should be very interesting just because it went from
hearing a Mariahampton going to you know, top fifteen a
couple of months ago. Now it's you know, barely making
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the first round. So it'd be very I've been It's
safe to say that nobody knows, and it'd be very interesting.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Knows. Well, yeah, that's well, he said, not there. What
do you think he's doing?
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Right? It depends though, because somebody's whole draft, first round
draft board gets screwed up by one pick.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
No, I guarantee you the guy to sipping the latte
right now knows, Hey, if that guy's there, I'm taking him.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
If he's not there, I'm taking him.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
And if both of them are not there, I'm gonna
be pissed, but I'm we're trading.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
He knows. Sean right now knows exactly how the first
round will go.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
And I think that's the biggest thing too for the
Bronx is you will see people trade back if their
top two picks are gone.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
And you're hearing it now.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
You hear the teams that wanted teams want to trade
back and and all that jazz. But the issue is
everybody knows that teams want to trade trade back, so
they're not trying to give them anything that's worth value,
So you won't see anything actually happen. I'll say until
that of the Patriots, that'll be my best bet. I'd
say the Jacks are probably the first likely began to
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give their pick up because just because it's jackson from Jacksonville. Well,
there's a lot of time, no way to do something
that makes.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
No sense, And there are a lot of teams that
think that they have to jump up to number five
where Jacksonville is selecting to get Ashton Janny. So if
for some reason Jacksonville say, you know, we're we're okay
not taking Ashton Janny, You're right, pick five would be
sort of that spot. But this is such a weird draft.
And I saw this tweeted out a little bit earlier
on because of the way it's structure. Right now, this
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was Jordan Schultz. He says several teams picking in the
top ten are open to trading down. The challenge has
been finding teams willing to move up. Per sources. From
what I'm hearing, there isn't a strong push to trade
up this year at the top, especially if it means
giving up significant value that aligns with the traditional draft charts.
He says, as one source put it, the current offers
are seventy cents on the dollar, and I think a
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lot of that has to do with the quarterbacks. I
think a lot of nobody's you're not trading up to
grab a quarterback, and you can't sell that to the
teams coming up. They're not going to give you a
haul because they're not getting that guy. They're trading up
for maybe a d line, maybe an offensive line, maybe
a running back that they like. That's it's a different
conversation when you're doing that.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
I'm just glad that the start of the end is tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Thank you, right, thank you, John. We have talked about
this draft, it seems like for a couple of years.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Well we're gonna talk about it. Let's do it tomorrow.
We will be at the Broncos facility, Broncos Park, Power
by Common Spirit, very excited about that. Will be there
from three o'clock all the way till the end. We're
going to be doing all our draft coverage from out there.
Benjamin Albright is going to be part of that broadcast.
Is going to join us in studio next to breakdown
his one and only mock that's coming up next at
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your earliest convenience, certainly not while you're driving, but maybe
a little bit later on to check out Benjamin Albright's
one and only mock draft it is out. He does
this the day before the draft every single year and
been a lot of expectation for it for swaf Hello,
how are you?
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I'm doing right? How are you guys? Good?
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Merry drafts from sieve for those who celebrate indeed, indeed,
uh boy, what's what's some of the early reactions you're
getting on this?
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Man? Honestly, it's I expected a lot more hate.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
There's not a lot of hate this year.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
It's weird.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
It's a weird feeling for me for people not not
hating hate when you're mock draft. Oh yeah, Oh I
get hate all the time.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
You bring on some of the hate.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
I have been known to out a little bit, but no, no,
I expected there was not a lot of negativity about it,
which makes you think I'm gonna get everything wrong, but uh,
there was not. There was not a lot of negativity
about this at all. There was some disappointed I think
Bears fans, but anytime this is the weirdest thing to me.
Fans all year will tell you, oh, we got to
build the trenches. We got to build the trenches. And
then it comes time for the draft and you put
it offensive linement a mock draft and they hate it.
They want they want to skill guy.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Well, now I think my honestly, my favorite thing about
this mock is the kind of prove my point. You
know that about me, Mason Graham. You know it's a
little drop from five where everyone tried to claim out
he was gonna go to Jacksonville and now it's going
to eleven. And even then, I'm not convinced.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
We disagree on a lot of things, Mason Graham. We
have been locked up the whole way.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
But it's not it's not the fact that it's for
me when it comes to Mason Graham. It's just the
I don't see the X factor behind it.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
But you know how Chris Kusarek is with those defensive minds,
need to.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Getting the most out of him.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Like you know, I have a couple of former teamates
down there, Jordan Elliott had a great year down there,
and you know Chris knows what he's doing. But are
we sure this is a system for Mason Graham.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Look, the forty nine ers like their wines like they
like their their defensive lineman. They're a big fan of
interesting whites. Now we were just talking right before he
came on, Dave, you said, you really like the Henderson
pick if that is the direction that they end up going.
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You like him for what he sort of brings to
this offense.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
No, I what I said was when you said Ben
has traveon Henderson, I would say, I said that would
not be a surprise, and I just kind of smiled.
So I think he's got a really good skill set.
I think his skill set has a little more maybe
levels to it than Hampton's. Doesn't mean Hampton won't be
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a good pack, but I like Henderson in the passing game,
and the Broncos want their backs to be able to
get involved in the passing game.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
I think it's I think it's more about fit because
I think if you were in a vacuum, I think
you would take Hampton. He's a three down back. You
don't ever have to take him off the field. You know,
not that you have to take Henderson off the field,
because his pass pros is pretty good too. But I
think if you were in a vacuum, I think Amri
and Hampton. He's bigger, he's stronger, there's just about the
same speed. He's just a little slower, a little slower
in the acceleration. But in a vacuum, you probably take
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Hampton if you look at what Sean Payton has done
and you look at the running backs that he likes.
Though Traveon Henderson fits that archetype just a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
I think he's quicker than Hampton, and.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Then you know, Hampton's a lot closer to I'd say,
deuce McAllister, we're all yea, not a bad thing to
have it all. But at the same time, I think
with what you're looking at when you got bo and
you want that security blanket, I think Travion Henderson's money there.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
So we'll see Tyler Warren at seven.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Yeah, you already know after everyone learned after Kyle Pitts,
the tight ends don't go top ten anymore.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Sam Laporta.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
They don't have any death and not today. All they
have his record. You got it.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
You got a guy that can't throw that well, who
needs a security blanket, Get him.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
A tight end. But Lapointe didn't go in the top ten.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
No, he was the first round.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
But yeah, to what would the Pitts go? I think
like four Pits was four.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
I think, y yeah, yeah, and you know it's it's
a lot of draft capital number seven.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Overall, and you're talking about quarterless.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
You're talking about a quarterback who aren't necessarily sold on,
and you're gonna go pick a tight end in seven.
You have to assume that he's gonna.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Be Bron Bauers. Yeah, see Bowers than nothing in that aspect.
What I say, this is a one off. But if
you're if you're the Jets, and you're right it was Hocketson.
I was thinking of those first rounder down the porter.
If you're the Jets, so you're setting the table for
the next quarterback justin fields probably isn't your future. You're
gonna try it out and see if it works. It's
a it's a cheap dice roll. But at the end
of the day, you know you're setting the table for
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whoever it's going to be. In the long term. By
the time they get in there, they're going to have
a tight end in their second or third year in
this league, and they're gonna be a lot, a lot
closer rookie tight ends. Yeah, that's a loser proposition. But
if you're thinking long term, and I think Aaron Mougie
and I think Aaron Glenn are thinking a little longer
term here. You get that, you get a reliable pass
catching tight end there who's a very willing blocker, and
you know, and you by year two, year three, you're
set up to plug and play young quarterback in there.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
You could get could go get an offensive tackle, you
know whatever.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Maybe they could, but it's a Jets. We've seen how
they So then yeah, the Broncos taking Trevion there. But
while they're on the board at twenty, you're seeing, well,
you got sure going to the Steels draft for that.
But you have Kenneth Grants, you have Ted McMillan, you
have a Micha Buka, You've got Omari and Hampton. You've
got a lot of players there that I don't know
rumored that the Broncos could potentially be in on. So
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would they be attempting to get somebody I know you
don't do it in your mox, but would they be
attempting to try to get somebody to trade up at
that point? Maybe? I mean, you know, I've seen a
lot of these rumors about trading up, and they have
called teams up there to get the price tag. They
called it as high as Carolina at eight to get
the price tag on some of this stuff. And I
think part of that is if Chancey were to fall, Hey,
we want to be prepared for you know that that
kind of situation. I'm talking about people trading up to
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twenty I know, and then ifro The flip side of
that is the trade up is trade back portion of it,
and I you know, I think they I think they
would be more about getting their guy than trading back
in this situation, just because there are teams lurking for
Henderson there if he is your guy, Washington, Kansas City,
there are teams lurking for Treviat Henderson behind you that
you don't want to You don't want to go too
far back in the risk of them leap frogg and
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you going the other way. It feels like a similar
conversation we had last year, Dave when it came to
bon Nicks. Like a lot of people me included, were like,
I think you probably get Bonick a little bit later on,
but they felled based on their intel that they weren't
they weren't going to be able to go back at
all without potentially losing bon Nicks.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Well, if we're if we take Sean Payton at his
word that they identified Bonix right from the start and
so they knew they were going to take bon Nicks
at twelve. I'm not sure he's quite so. Like I
said earlier in the show, I think Sean probably has
three names right now, and he's probably done four hundred
(27:44):
mock drafts in the top twenty. Right. If you want
to go, I want to get that guy. Can We
probably can't get that guy. But if that guy, that guy,
of that guy fall to twenty were taking him, right,
if none of those guys are available at twenty, maybe
maybe they moved back.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
I don't know. But he's the one guy that knows well.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
And last year they were terrified the Rams were going
to jump them for bone X.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Yeah they were terrified. Yeah that that became a big
story in fact by j Jay Glazier, right.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
The story was that Sean reached out to.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Jay Glacier and had Jay Glacier reach out to Sean
McVeigh just to make certain like, you're not taking a quarterback?
Are you taking a quarterback? And finally McVeigh wanted to
pimp him a little bit, or so the story goes,
and he finally said, no, we're not so I think
things like that happen. I just wonder when one of
those guys is going to call you and say, Ben,
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would you call x GM and find out if x
GM is taking the tackle?
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Who oh more interesting? Yeah? Not this year?
Speaker 4 (28:49):
But okay, wow, okay, mister important, there you go. I
think what you want to see though in this draft,
it's when things was to finally start shaking up, though,
is if Ashton Jenny does not get picked like at
the spot you claim is gonna get that live, that's
what we're gonna start seeing people try to trade out.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Well, that's exactly what it is. That's and that's where
all that's that's that's the kind of the full chrome
right now of where this thing heads is five at
Ashton Chancey. The Bears have tried to call to get
up there, but they're not, you know, they're not willing
to part with another first round or to do it,
which is probably what a take.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
So we've had a texture that asked, this is the
first time he can or she can remember you not
having a trade involved in one of your mind.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Yeah, I didn't do that this year.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
I I mentioned that kind of in the blurb. I
think I just I do believe somebody will trade in
the first for Jackson Dart, But I just I tried
to more match the player up with the team than
I tried to like project the exact trade of these
actor because I think I have Seattle, and I have
a Houston, and Houston's taking a receiver at a booka
and I've got Gray's Abel going to going to Seattle.
(29:49):
So where do you think trade and still still have.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
First round?
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Where do you think Dart goes? I think I think
New Orleans. I think New Orleans could trade back in
the first for Dark. I know they like sugar, but
I think it's starter shog for them, a sugar shuck.
Pronoun show, I pronounced everything, show call it Twitter, t
X now or something. Try to figure that out bout tomorrow.
(30:17):
Draft kidbid here. By the way, that guy was backing
up Justin Herbert at Oregon. That's how long he's been
in college forever.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
The wide receiver Jamar who's the Oregon wide receiver? That
was a player, Uhster Johnson.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I'll think of it. He's been in the league. He's
going on a second contract. But no, nope, nope, nope,
I'll think of it. Okay, he played on that Oregon team.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Yeah, I was just like I was looking back at
the trying to, you know, picture his whole collegiates. My
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We have a couple of questions coming in here, and
actually this is one I kind of wondered as well,
what was your most confident pick and what is your
least confident pick? A mock draft question. Uh, my most
(31:53):
confident pick is cam Ward at number one. That should
be pretty used. Okay, well i'd had that in January
when everybody else was telling you was gonna should go
and all this other stuff. So yeah, there's that. I mean,
confident pick what in the in the teens or twenties
or well, yeah, that's fine, pull my mak draft up here.
I'm pretty confident on Chadur Yeah, I would say I'm
(32:16):
real confident on that one. That's I think that's I
think that's the bestined to happen. Starts to Buffalo. I'm
pretty pretty solid on that one. So those are some
later picks I think that I'm really booka. I think
I think for Houston, I think the look of the
quote I got was like, he's he's Stefan Digs without
the baggage, Like he's Stefan Digs with a with an
(32:38):
immaculate personality. So I was like, okay, all right, Colston
loved them to the Colts and that feels right. However,
I will say there's some teams that are tight end
thirsty that are after that that might might look to
leap frog them. How about the Cowboys with Matthew Golden.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
I think I'm pretty sure that's the way they go.
They are in the McMillan potentially marketed. Well, I think
it's receiver either way there though, Yeah, because you have
tech McMillan go to the Crackers like the dark Horse.
There would be Booker the guard just because you know
how Jerry loves his offensive line. The Packers areking a
wide receiver in the first round. I almost wanted to
lost this thing in the trash right when I saw that.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
I would say Falcons. Uh taking Mike Green, I think
that's pretty much a lot. I think that's a lot
because their pass rush was as they wanted.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
They wanted Michael Williams, but he's not going to get there,
and so I think I think Green is probably the
direction they wind up going there.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Green Green.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Two separate sexual assault allegations.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
One high school, one in college, yes, one in Virginia
before he went to Marshall.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Yeah. And I'll say this, I will say this about that,
and that's a serious thing, and I don't want to
go into the details of all that, I will say,
I don't believe that's something that will ever be repeated
from him. I'll just just based on what I know
of those situations.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
And I would say the one the one switch I
would say on my draft is I say the Packers
they're taking a Meco instead of instead I could.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
I can see it.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
It just feels like they need that guy. They thought
Christian Watson was going to be that guy. He has
kind of but he just has to be health healthy.
His hamstrings are.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Held together by man should we go?
Speaker 4 (34:13):
And that takest swear to dude like that's That's the
issue though with the Packers is this, and you know,
for the Packers that may just move for receiver at one,
which they haven't done in ten plus years, So it
has to be for legitimate number one. And that's that's
where they've struggled, is because they haven't had a number one.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
I will say, whatever else other complaints you have about mcmillion,
I will say, he is an ex receiver. He is
that if you're projected, if you're looking at you're looking
at him as a number one guy. So these other
guys are not a book that you're not looking at
him necessarily as that X receiver. You know you're not
really I mean, he can't. He can be over there,
but he's more of a Z. Matt Golden's Z.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
So the Packers have a bunch of guys in the
middle middles.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
So because Watson is the only guy who has an
and how many games are you gonna play? Let me
ask you this.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
I this has always interested me. What like what would the.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
I know what mine would be, But what would you
when you say Abuka really doesn't play X. He can,
but he's mostly so what in your mind?
Speaker 1 (35:17):
What are the Well, if you're looking at X, you're
usually looking at a bigger body guy who played the slant.
He's up on the lines. He could play off there.
You know, if you're playing press man against him, he's
going to beat press Man. You know those kinds of things.
Where is the Z you're off the line, you know
you're gonna see motion, You're gonna find ways to move around. Now,
with the advent of the power slot over the last
couple of years, you find a lot of big bodies
going into the slot as well. You find, you know,
(35:37):
you find a little more variety to these things are
traditional than you traditionally did. But I would say, if
you you know, like overwhelmingly, where am I if I'm
sitting here at a vacum plugging him on all the
depth art, where am I plugging him in? I'm probably
plugging those guys in at the Z I'm probably plugging
a big millan, And I'm not putting him in motion
necessarily all the time. I might use him on a
power slot fade at the goal line just to take
advantage of the size. But I you know, for me
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in X is a bigger body, box out type guy,
jump ball guy who beats press man and as he is,
you know a little bit quicker twitch athlete, but probably
somebody who's maybe not quite as good with the press man.
I gotta move around in that regard.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
That hasn't changed over forty years, right, That's pretty much
what it used to be.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Oh, the three first round wide receivers, Dave, how would
you stack them? And I guess to that point of
what you really need right versus Matthew Golden, And how
would you stack them? As far as your interest in
their ability?
Speaker 3 (36:25):
I think McMillan is more of by Ben's definition, and
I would tend to agree with that, he'd be more
of an X. I think the kid from Texas can
play both go I think because of his speed.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
You know, I got to be honest about it. I have.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
I've seen him where maybe not a great ball catcher
over the middle of the field. I've seen a lot
of guys that aren't great ball catchers in there. But man,
oh man, I mean you talking his strides eat up,
cushioned quickly. So and you're talking about Abuka more of
a I like his route running more than I like Golden's. Now,
(37:11):
Golden may develop into a great route runner, but I
don't think he ran a lot of those type of
routes at Texas. Fly post deep over, yeah, right, I
mean he's utilizing and heck, if you got an athlete
like that, I mean you want to get him to
space and get him downfield to create big, big play.
So Abuka to me is a little bit shiftier an athlete, right. So,
(37:35):
but I think he's all three of those kids are
going to be good player, really good players.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Ben A question coming in here about your hidden message
that you're going to be sitting tweet tomorrow. They'll all
know what it is.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
When I do it. What has the hidden message been?
Speaker 1 (37:45):
I mean everybody was bodix. You know, I coded it
using the first letter of each word. Like, when did
you do?
Speaker 2 (37:54):
I mean I remember that?
Speaker 1 (37:55):
But what what I did it was that the day
of the draft, three o'clock in the afternoon, the day
of the draft. I think I did it like four hours. No,
it's like one o'clock. So it was like five hours
for the draft.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
And I was like, it's so, can people count on
maybe five hours before tomorrow's draft?
Speaker 1 (38:06):
I will release the puzzle tweet around It'll be real
close to three thirty tomorrow, three thirty three thirty? Why
so specific? That's I want to give everybody in the
time so they know when to look for it.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Okay, don't have to go. So we're on the air,
by the way, four thirty tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Is that was that where we found out? Yes, so
the Rockies are going to extra tomorrow or you just
letting me know.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
I'm just letting you know that we're probably going to
you know, my pants have software.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Just willing it to happen, right, the Rockies?
Speaker 2 (38:39):
You gonna win tomorrow, he asked politely.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
I think six.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Will it?
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Four?
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Half eighteen? Is four and eighteen.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Yes, and they get to ten wins before the fourth
of July.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
That is actually a very good question. I like, well, no,
they'll get there, gonna.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Get away tonight. They're good. They're good.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Tonight, we're good. Been out of town the last two
nights and so I haven't followed. Who do they play tonight?
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Kansas City? Okay, they got Hermon and Marquez on the
Marques a chance, but you still.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Got a score at least one run. That is rich.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
Analysis. Yes, I'm just saying, you know, I I hope
you know. The city of Denver does better when the
Rockies are doing good. Summers are a little bit better.
But what's just not there yet.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
It's not there yet. It's not there yet. It's been
a great job on this Mancire, all right, check it
out of a ka Colorado dot Com. We're right back.
Wednesday, everybody draft massive, if you will. Very excited to
be here with you on a Wednesday. We hear a
lot of that. Tomorrow night at six o'clock, we were
very excited. Dave, Logan, Ryan over, Shelby Harrison, Shooty, what's
up Shell? Good to see you man, Good to see
you too.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Well, I will be dressed a little bit nicer tomorrow,
day one of the draft. Looking forward to that, Dave,
my friend, Good to see you. Just just dressing up here,
dressing for radio?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Really, what what does that?
Speaker 1 (00:30):
It's the first It.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Look like.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
It'll be on social media's telling me that it'll be
on camera. So yes, it's just a button down or
a jacket.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Yeah, the first day draft, we're gonna be the Broncos facility.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I want to look like I know what I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I don't know. Maybe that's how we're a flatel every day.
All right, you look good, Thank you, Dave. I appreciate it.
Good to see you back, my friend.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Well, I tell you what you know.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Yesterday, yes, Shay, or maybe it was a Monday, I
was feeling great. The thunder, the tee wolves, Oh my goodness, gracious,
I was prepared. I was like, it's like if Dave
was here, he wouldn't wouldn't hear the end of it?
And then and then the te Wolves were terrible last night.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Yeah, and last I will tell you this, if which
I'm not, if I were a Lakers fan and I
know the Lakers, it's it's one one. Now they got
to go find a way to win in Minnesota. And
I'm not saying they're not capable of winning a game,
but I would not feel very good about this series.
I'm just telling you, right, I mean, they shot lights out.
(01:42):
If you look at the Lakers scoring last night, and
I was in Nashville but got back in time to
watch most of that game in my hotel room.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I think they had.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Thirty four the first quarter and then went down every
single quarter twenty four. They have thirteen points in the
fourth quarter, and now you say, well, they're up by sixteen.
I understand that. Here's the dilemma. Other than Luca Hey,
They've got to shoot a great percentage outside because there's
(02:14):
nothing inside.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
They don't get rebounds.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
I mean they I think Minnesota is going to find
a way to win this series.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
How painful was that? That's pretty painful?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Although My thing with you in Minnesota was that you
were fearful that the Nuggets might run into them.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
I am glad that they're decide the bracket. That's a
good thing. If they run into them there, it's in
the conference finals, that'd be great. Won't bring up the Bucks.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Story about let's talk about it.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
No, don't to this.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
On my mind for for a minute. It's breaking my heart.
I watched this sort of plane. I'm up in the
air and I'm watching my team get beat down.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Game.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yes, the score thirteen straight points.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
In the fourth.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Yeah, and that's great, except when you're.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Down twenty fifteen.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
No, it's just the issue is it's this consistency. But man,
they're not playing any defense. There's no defense being played.
And I don't know what it is by when the
Pacers play the Bucks, but they just become a bunch
of Reggie Millers out there and just hit every single shot.
But I guess it helps when you're not playing any defense.
So you know, it's it's you know.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
In Pascal and nim Hart are closing things out for you. Yeah, right,
you crawled back to within like one bucket and.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Then and then they go drop like seven straight out
of there, and it's just.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Like, yo, well, let's not act like is not a
score though.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
He's not the one you like, I guess for them
if it's not Halliburton, I'm thinking, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
But but but.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Nim Hart, Like, it's just like man, McConnell's going like
just balling doing.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
I wish the Nuggets had con we both he would be,
you know, just because he's a great field.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
I didn't see you in the game, but I'm not
even sure what they're shooting. But McConnell strikes me as
a guy that you can count on.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
If if you.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Swing the ball out of a double team, like oh,
the joker gets a lot of and then you swing
it maybe a couple of times and you get an
open look, I would bet McConnell would be a guy
that would knock down more than he missed.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
And range I'm talking about his mine has been shot
limits except without the height about every.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Time he interesting in comparison, every time.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
He shoots him in range, it's money, money, money, every time.
So you know, it's they have a great group of
role players that knows their role. And I think that
is truly, like the most important thing for these playoff
teams is people coming in and knowing the role. If
you're not a scorer, don't try to be a scorer.
If you're if you're a guy that's supposed to facilitate
the offense, go and do that. And I think that's
(04:59):
where the Bucks are struggling because obviously the shuffling lineups
with Dame coming back, and you know, it's just kind
of a confusion of who's doing what because we had
the whole last month of the season of no of
just Giannis and everybody else. Well, then we get to
the playoffs and realize that's not enough. So it'd be
very interesting to see how they respond. And that's that's
what I want to see out of Doc Rivers. This
(05:21):
is I want to see something different game three that
we haven't seen game one and two because we just
would let him shoot on contested threes the whole time.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
It was nic seeing Kusma show up in the box score.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
By the way, man, you know, I was talking a
good day till you brought that.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Catch up because he played forty two minutes, not a
single point, rebound, assists, nothing, averages.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
I think Kuzma for his career is like at fourteen
or fifteen pointing, he.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Points, it's just the in there. I always said, it's
the issue with you know, trading somebody that's seen since
they don't know their role, you know. And Doc had
a point of when he said, like, it's hard to
score when nothing's really going to the plays aren't going
to you.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
So you were pumping him off. You were like, and
that's the thing.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
And I do believe that he can still be a
little you know, he has a legitimate places, a hundred
million dollar guy.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
You better hope that Milwaukee didn't come come back here
and win games three and four. You're gonna get an
earful from the big man.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I've been rooting for the Bucks.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I know you haven't.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Yo.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
No, like my people in front of these fine.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
People yesterday, that Dame being back. I was excited about that.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
That was more like here you go.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Isn't exactly like you excited exciting for me.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
He's actually at six or fifteen in the morning.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
No, I did do that? Does that he does that?
Speaker 3 (06:41):
I actually forgot. I was in the airport in Dashville.
I forgot that it's an hour. I think it's seven fifteen.
Most people are up now right like six oh eight.
Here comes a text for me. I'm like, oh god, well,
at least it.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Was like something related to the show. He wasn't like like,
you know, hey, I'm sitting here thinking about how much.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
I hate you.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
Yeah, said, I'm awake.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Those days are longer about and we'll what we're.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Texting at sixth in the morning about your your doing
the mind.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
He's getting us getting dragged a little bit.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
But here's the thing. That's what happens every draft cycle.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
They find one player that they can just kind of
just go at and try to drop his draft stock,
just purely based off of media.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Just hate.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
That said, scout hate is a scout hit. You think
it's more. It may be a combination of both, but
I do think it is. And maybe it's a handful,
maybe it's a couple or three, but I think I
think this narrative on your door is driven by scouts.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Do you believe it's just because of you know, the
they believe what they're saying thinking about that? Yeah, but no,
because you know why no, because always at this time
of year is I call it long season. This is
long season. This is a time where we're trying to
make you pass up on get.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Him and maybe, I mean maybe tomorrow night Shuedor goes
to whatever the giants. I don't see it. I don't
see I don't I don't have any idea where he goes.
Here's the deal. I think he's going to be a
good plan. I don't know how good, but a good
player in the league. It depends on kind of the
system he goes to. But he's got enough arm talent
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and athletic ability. Those are the two things he's being
knocked mostly about. I've seen guys that have had success
in the league that had that arm talent and that
kind of athletic ability. Not like great on either, but
certainly sufficient. So I'm anxious to see where he goes.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
So as he's trying to knock him like he has
high school arm talent, I'm just like yo, like he doesn't.
He doesn't become the player that he is playing the
competition that he is.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
But the league has always fallen in love with sure
arms traits always yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
And then look how that's going, Like, yes, we have
the you know the leagues Darling and Josh Allen. But
then if you look at Anthony Richardson, you know, just
the guys that you know, they fall in love with
the yard dalla, but then it's not the structure around
him that really develops him into the quarterback that they
expect him to be. And this because you can throw
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eighty yards, that's great. Can you throw a ten yard slam?
Speaker 1 (09:33):
So this is what we're referencing, by the way, in
case you guys didn't see it. So this was Tom
Peliasero yesterday he put out a story about Shador and
here's the section of the article says one long time
NFL assistant coach said his time with Sanders was quote
the worst formal interview I've ever been in in my life.
He's so entitled, He takes unnecessary secks, he never plays
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on time, his horrible body language, He blames teammates. But
the biggest thing in he is good. It didn't go
great in our interview. He wants to dictate what he's
going to do and what's best for him. He makes
you feel small.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
That sounds soft and like when you have a scout
saying something like that makes you feel small, then maybe
you need to look at yourself because there's nobody that's
going to make me feel small. You know, man, I'm
not talking about size. I'm talking about as a person, like,
nobody's gonna make me feel small just because of the
way they're acting. And for a scout to go out
and blatantly be like it makes you feel small. This
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was an assistant coach.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
This assistant coach, Well.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Then that makes me feel like you're the guy that's
getting beat up in the locker room.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
One of those.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Yeah, you're the guy getting beat up in the locker
room and you feel like your door is the personality
of the guy that was beating your ass.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
That to me sounds like a guy who is involved
in the interview. If we take him at his word,
and maybe he didn't get two or three answers that
over the years you would think you would get from
a quarterback. Okay, Chaudeur's got a different personality. I do
think there are two points in there that if he's
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being honest about it and not but heard about something else,
that I think are Okay. He said he holds the
ball too long.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
That's true. I've talked. That's absolutely true.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Now I believe you can coach that out of a
player even at the elite level, even at the NFL level.
But I think one of the reasons, I mean, there
was such an emphasis on completion percentage in Boulder that
you're holding the ball. And I'm not saying he consciously
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did this, but at times it almost felt like he'd
rather take a sack than throw an incomplete pass.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Well, that won't work in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
They don't care about your I mean, they care about it,
but they what they don't want is second and eighteen
because NFL teams, I mean, they can't can't survive. You
can't survive really at any level. So I think that's
probably a fair criticism or or analysis.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
And then he said he holds the ball too long,
and what else?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
The horrible Moody language is titled No.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I'm not going for that. There's one.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
More trait that is a physical trait from his play
last year that I think I could agree with.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
I can't remember what it was.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yeah, I'm just I'm seeing if there's anything here, but
you read it, Okay, read it again, Okay, worst formal
interview I've ever been in my life titled unnecessary sex. Okay,
never plays on time, And I think.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
That is also accurate. Part of the reason is you're
holding the ball right and so they'll they'll be depending
on where he goes. I mean, do you think he's
going to get a good, smart, talented quarterback, coach, offensive coordinator?
Speaker 1 (12:52):
You hope.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
And it's important that the thing comes out on time.
It's got to come out on time. You don't have it,
especially the next level. You don't have time. You know,
on a like a three step even if you're in
the shotgun, you know that thing's got to come out.
And a lot of times on concepts like that, if
you don't like it, throw it away, throw it away.
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So those two things I could see. The other stuff
seemed sort of petty ready to me.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Yeah, And the.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Timing, like to your point, I do think something about
the timing. You're two days away from the draft. He's
being talked about as one of the more interesting storylines
of the first round.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
We don't know where he's going to go and said
for about two months. But the level that was like
the vitrol that's coming from this, it's like I hate
you like you did my sister. I hate you, and
it's like it seems you, yeah, young coach with the sister.
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You never know this coach Now I'm older and most
of the coaches in Cleveland, so I get it.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Are you really do you point that out to him often?
Or when they I ask you to do something, you're like,
oh come on, oh.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
No, no, no, you still got you still have that respect.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Yeah, school player, you know you still have respect, but
you still got to be like, hey, like I forgot
two years older than you, like that has to be
like you remember something. I'm like, well, yeah, I was
in the league, you know what I mean. I mean,
you have thinking like a lot of guys, and it's crazy,
like I've been at Leased since twenty fourteen, and like
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it's crazy because a lot of people were like I
was you know, I was six. I was Seven's wild,
you know what I mean. So it's like it's really crazy.
Like a lot of people I know on a team,
like I've been at Leased since to fourteen, they graduate
high school.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Twas in eighteen, nineteen, twenty twenty one.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
So it's just it's it's a little different nowadays because
everybody's a lot younger than and then the coaches come
in and you know your age, like our assistant Dylone
coaches went to become the head d line coach at
Boston College. We were actually born on the exact same day,
in the exact same year. Wow, wow, on just eleven
ninety one. Yeah, so that's what said. So it's the
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older you get, the closer nage you do to your coaches.
And I just think it's hilarious because I never thought
this day.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Was going to be coming.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Well, there you go. We all have. I guess those moments, right,
all kind of catches up. By the way, speaking of
Max drafts beIN Albright that his one and only mock
will talk about that with him in about ten minutes
when he joins us in studio. Really interesting stuff, he is.
Travian Henderson going to the Broncos at pick twenty might
be absolutely right.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Oh yeah, you're saying saying, Susan just saying I thought
I had an interesting And I'm not lying.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
You're you know you you would not you know, you
know Dave No, No, well no, I don't know about
Dave No.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
But I'm just saying I wouldn't be surprised if Young
Benjamin is correct.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
So I ran a poll question on Twitter just for fun.
I said, if it comes down to Amarin Hampton versus
Trevion Henderson for the Broncos to pick twenty, who should
they take? Who do you think is winning that poll
right now?
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Henderson?
Speaker 1 (16:02):
But just barely by fifty one?
Speaker 3 (16:05):
He's he's He's got a pretty good skill set and
he's he's really good out of the backfield catching the ball,
which I think is is appealing. And it doesn't take
him long to get from one point to the other
when running the ball either, So that'll be interesting.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Do you personally taking out what you may or may
not know, do you personally like him better as a
fit for the Broncos than Omari and Hampton.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
That's a hard one only because I think he's better
in the passing game. I think he's a more viable
guy in the passing game out of the backfield sooner
than Hampton. Hampton's a powerful dude, and he can run too,
right when he when he gets going, he moves playing well.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Or forty times a little more quick.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Little trading on four four six. Yeah, well, but Hampton's
a little bigger too. He is, so I think it
depends on really what you're looking for in this offense.
And again, this is absolutely a guess, but I think
the head guy is is somebody he wants to be
able to run it, but he also likes to be
able to isolate those backs. Alvin Kamara, Yes, and throw
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it to him and then say now go tackling. And
Henderson's good in that, really good in that department.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Man. The one thing I keep hearing, and I'm not
really more lately than anything, is that, you know, the
quickness for Marion Hanton is not the same as the
other guys has. He can straight line speed and if
you want to look at just the past history of
the Sean Payton everything, he doesn't just want a guy
that could just run straight fast. He's he's real big
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on you know. And if you look at the Alvin Kamara,
alber Kamar didn't run up blazing in fast forty, but
he's one of the one of the quickest backs in
the league. And since that quickness isn't what you know,
Sean Payton actually values more than anything. And you know,
it should be very interesting just because it went from
hearing a Mariahampton going to you know, top fifteen a
couple of months ago. Now it's you know, barely making
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the first round. So it'd be very I've been It's
safe to say that nobody knows, and it'd be very interesting.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Knows. Well, yeah, that's well, he said, not there. What
do you think he's doing?
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Right? It depends though, because somebody's whole draft, first round
draft board gets screwed up by one pick.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
No, I guarantee you the guy to sipping the latte
right now knows, Hey, if that guy's there, I'm taking him.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
If he's not there, I'm taking him.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
And if both of them are not there, I'm gonna
be pissed, but I'm we're trading.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
He knows. Sean right now knows exactly how the first
round will go.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
And I think that's the biggest thing too for the
Bronx is you will see people trade back if their
top two picks are gone.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
And you're hearing it now.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
You hear the teams that wanted teams want to trade
back and and all that jazz. But the issue is
everybody knows that teams want to trade trade back, so
they're not trying to give them anything that's worth value,
So you won't see anything actually happen. I'll say until
that of the Patriots, that'll be my best bet. I'd
say the Jacks are probably the first likely began to
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give their pick up because just because it's jackson from Jacksonville. Well,
there's a lot of time, no way to do something
that makes.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
No sense, And there are a lot of teams that
think that they have to jump up to number five
where Jacksonville is selecting to get Ashton Janny. So if
for some reason Jacksonville say, you know, we're we're okay
not taking Ashton Janny, You're right, pick five would be
sort of that spot. But this is such a weird draft.
And I saw this tweeted out a little bit earlier
on because of the way it's structure. Right now, this
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was Jordan Schultz. He says several teams picking in the
top ten are open to trading down. The challenge has
been finding teams willing to move up. Per sources. From
what I'm hearing, there isn't a strong push to trade
up this year at the top, especially if it means
giving up significant value that aligns with the traditional draft charts.
He says, as one source put it, the current offers
are seventy cents on the dollar, and I think a
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lot of that has to do with the quarterbacks. I
think a lot of nobody's you're not trading up to
grab a quarterback, and you can't sell that to the
teams coming up. They're not going to give you a
haul because they're not getting that guy. They're trading up
for maybe a d line, maybe an offensive line, maybe
a running back that they like. That's it's a different
conversation when you're doing that.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
I'm just glad that the start of the end is tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Thank you, right, thank you, John. We have talked about
this draft, it seems like for a couple of years.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Well we're gonna talk about it. Let's do it tomorrow.
We will be at the Broncos facility, Broncos Park, Power
by Common Spirit, very excited about that. Will be there
from three o'clock all the way till the end. We're
going to be doing all our draft coverage from out there.
Benjamin Albright is going to be part of that broadcast.
Is going to join us in studio next to breakdown
his one and only mock that's coming up next at
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your earliest convenience, certainly not while you're driving, but maybe
a little bit later on to check out Benjamin Albright's
one and only mock draft it is out. He does
this the day before the draft every single year and
been a lot of expectation for it for swaf Hello,
how are you?
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I'm doing right? How are you guys? Good?
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Merry drafts from sieve for those who celebrate indeed, indeed,
uh boy, what's what's some of the early reactions you're
getting on this?
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Man? Honestly, it's I expected a lot more hate.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
There's not a lot of hate this year.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
It's weird.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
It's a weird feeling for me for people not not
hating hate when you're mock draft. Oh yeah, Oh I
get hate all the time.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
You bring on some of the hate.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
I have been known to out a little bit, but no, no,
I expected there was not a lot of negativity about it,
which makes you think I'm gonna get everything wrong, but uh,
there was not. There was not a lot of negativity
about this at all. There was some disappointed I think
Bears fans, but anytime this is the weirdest thing to me.
Fans all year will tell you, oh, we got to
build the trenches. We got to build the trenches. And
then it comes time for the draft and you put
it offensive linement a mock draft and they hate it.
They want they want to skill guy.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Well, now I think my honestly, my favorite thing about
this mock is the kind of prove my point. You
know that about me, Mason Graham. You know it's a
little drop from five where everyone tried to claim out
he was gonna go to Jacksonville and now it's going
to eleven. And even then, I'm not convinced.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
We disagree on a lot of things, Mason Graham. We
have been locked up the whole way.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
But it's not it's not the fact that it's for
me when it comes to Mason Graham. It's just the
I don't see the X factor behind it.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
But you know how Chris Kusarek is with those defensive minds,
need to.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Getting the most out of him.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Like you know, I have a couple of former teamates
down there, Jordan Elliott had a great year down there,
and you know Chris knows what he's doing. But are
we sure this is a system for Mason Graham.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Look, the forty nine ers like their wines like they
like their their defensive lineman. They're a big fan of
interesting whites. Now we were just talking right before he
came on, Dave, you said, you really like the Henderson
pick if that is the direction that they end up going.
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You like him for what he sort of brings to
this offense.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
No, I what I said was when you said Ben
has traveon Henderson, I would say, I said that would
not be a surprise, and I just kind of smiled.
So I think he's got a really good skill set.
I think his skill set has a little more maybe
levels to it than Hampton's. Doesn't mean Hampton won't be
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a good pack, but I like Henderson in the passing game,
and the Broncos want their backs to be able to
get involved in the passing game.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
I think it's I think it's more about fit because
I think if you were in a vacuum, I think
you would take Hampton. He's a three down back. You
don't ever have to take him off the field. You know,
not that you have to take Henderson off the field,
because his pass pros is pretty good too. But I
think if you were in a vacuum, I think Amri
and Hampton. He's bigger, he's stronger, there's just about the
same speed. He's just a little slower, a little slower
in the acceleration. But in a vacuum, you probably take
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Hampton if you look at what Sean Payton has done
and you look at the running backs that he likes.
Though Traveon Henderson fits that archetype just a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
I think he's quicker than Hampton, and.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Then you know, Hampton's a lot closer to I'd say,
deuce McAllister, we're all yea, not a bad thing to
have it all. But at the same time, I think
with what you're looking at when you got bo and
you want that security blanket, I think Travion Henderson's money there.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
So we'll see Tyler Warren at seven.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Yeah, you already know after everyone learned after Kyle Pitts,
the tight ends don't go top ten anymore.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Sam Laporta.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
They don't have any death and not today. All they
have his record. You got it.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
You got a guy that can't throw that well, who
needs a security blanket, Get him.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
A tight end. But Lapointe didn't go in the top ten.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
No, he was the first round.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
But yeah, to what would the Pitts go? I think
like four Pits was four.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
I think, y yeah, yeah, and you know it's it's
a lot of draft capital number seven.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Overall, and you're talking about quarterless.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
You're talking about a quarterback who aren't necessarily sold on,
and you're gonna go pick a tight end in seven.
You have to assume that he's gonna.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Be Bron Bauers. Yeah, see Bowers than nothing in that aspect.
What I say, this is a one off. But if
you're if you're the Jets, and you're right it was Hocketson.
I was thinking of those first rounder down the porter.
If you're the Jets, so you're setting the table for
the next quarterback justin fields probably isn't your future. You're
gonna try it out and see if it works. It's
a it's a cheap dice roll. But at the end
of the day, you know you're setting the table for
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whoever it's going to be. In the long term. By
the time they get in there, they're going to have
a tight end in their second or third year in
this league, and they're gonna be a lot, a lot
closer rookie tight ends. Yeah, that's a loser proposition. But
if you're thinking long term, and I think Aaron Mougie
and I think Aaron Glenn are thinking a little longer
term here. You get that, you get a reliable pass
catching tight end there who's a very willing blocker, and
you know, and you by year two, year three, you're
set up to plug and play young quarterback in there.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
You could get could go get an offensive tackle, you
know whatever.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Maybe they could, but it's a Jets. We've seen how
they So then yeah, the Broncos taking Trevion there. But
while they're on the board at twenty, you're seeing, well,
you got sure going to the Steels draft for that.
But you have Kenneth Grants, you have Ted McMillan, you
have a Micha Buka, You've got Omari and Hampton. You've
got a lot of players there that I don't know
rumored that the Broncos could potentially be in on. So
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would they be attempting to get somebody I know you
don't do it in your mox, but would they be
attempting to try to get somebody to trade up at
that point? Maybe? I mean, you know, I've seen a
lot of these rumors about trading up, and they have
called teams up there to get the price tag. They
called it as high as Carolina at eight to get
the price tag on some of this stuff. And I
think part of that is if Chancey were to fall, Hey,
we want to be prepared for you know that that
kind of situation. I'm talking about people trading up to
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twenty I know, and then ifro The flip side of
that is the trade up is trade back portion of it,
and I you know, I think they I think they
would be more about getting their guy than trading back
in this situation, just because there are teams lurking for
Henderson there if he is your guy, Washington, Kansas City,
there are teams lurking for Treviat Henderson behind you that
you don't want to You don't want to go too
far back in the risk of them leap frogg and
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you going the other way. It feels like a similar
conversation we had last year, Dave when it came to
bon Nicks. Like a lot of people me included, were like,
I think you probably get Bonick a little bit later on,
but they felled based on their intel that they weren't
they weren't going to be able to go back at
all without potentially losing bon Nicks.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Well, if we're if we take Sean Payton at his
word that they identified Bonix right from the start and
so they knew they were going to take bon Nicks
at twelve. I'm not sure he's quite so. Like I
said earlier in the show, I think Sean probably has
three names right now, and he's probably done four hundred
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mock drafts in the top twenty. Right. If you want
to go, I want to get that guy. Can We
probably can't get that guy. But if that guy, that guy,
of that guy fall to twenty were taking him, right,
if none of those guys are available at twenty, maybe
maybe they moved back.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
I don't know. But he's the one guy that knows well.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
And last year they were terrified the Rams were going
to jump them for bone X.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Yeah they were terrified. Yeah that that became a big
story in fact by j Jay Glazier, right.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
The story was that Sean reached out to.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Jay Glacier and had Jay Glacier reach out to Sean
McVeigh just to make certain like, you're not taking a quarterback?
Are you taking a quarterback? And finally McVeigh wanted to
pimp him a little bit, or so the story goes,
and he finally said, no, we're not so I think
things like that happen. I just wonder when one of
those guys is going to call you and say, Ben,
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would you call x GM and find out if x
GM is taking the tackle?
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Who oh more interesting? Yeah? Not this year?
Speaker 4 (28:49):
But okay, wow, okay, mister important, there you go. I
think what you want to see though in this draft,
it's when things was to finally start shaking up, though,
is if Ashton Jenny does not get picked like at
the spot you claim is gonna get that live, that's
what we're gonna start seeing people try to trade out.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Well, that's exactly what it is. That's and that's where
all that's that's that's the kind of the full chrome
right now of where this thing heads is five at
Ashton Chancey. The Bears have tried to call to get
up there, but they're not, you know, they're not willing
to part with another first round or to do it,
which is probably what a take.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
So we've had a texture that asked, this is the
first time he can or she can remember you not
having a trade involved in one of your mind.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Yeah, I didn't do that this year.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
I I mentioned that kind of in the blurb. I
think I just I do believe somebody will trade in
the first for Jackson Dart, But I just I tried
to more match the player up with the team than
I tried to like project the exact trade of these
actor because I think I have Seattle, and I have
a Houston, and Houston's taking a receiver at a booka
and I've got Gray's Abel going to going to Seattle.
(29:49):
So where do you think trade and still still have.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
First round?
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Where do you think Dart goes? I think I think
New Orleans. I think New Orleans could trade back in
the first for Dark. I know they like sugar, but
I think it's starter shog for them, a sugar shuck.
Pronoun show, I pronounced everything, show call it Twitter, t
X now or something. Try to figure that out bout tomorrow.
(30:17):
Draft kidbid here. By the way, that guy was backing
up Justin Herbert at Oregon. That's how long he's been
in college forever.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
The wide receiver Jamar who's the Oregon wide receiver? That
was a player, Uhster Johnson.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I'll think of it. He's been in the league. He's
going on a second contract. But no, nope, nope, nope,
I'll think of it. Okay, he played on that Oregon team.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Yeah, I was just like I was looking back at
the trying to, you know, picture his whole collegiates. My
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We have a couple of questions coming in here, and
actually this is one I kind of wondered as well,
what was your most confident pick and what is your
least confident pick? A mock draft question. Uh, my most
(31:53):
confident pick is cam Ward at number one. That should
be pretty used. Okay, well i'd had that in January
when everybody else was telling you was gonna should go
and all this other stuff. So yeah, there's that. I mean,
confident pick what in the in the teens or twenties
or well, yeah, that's fine, pull my mak draft up here.
I'm pretty confident on Chadur Yeah, I would say I'm
(32:16):
real confident on that one. That's I think that's I
think that's the bestined to happen. Starts to Buffalo. I'm
pretty pretty solid on that one. So those are some
later picks I think that I'm really booka. I think
I think for Houston, I think the look of the
quote I got was like, he's he's Stefan Digs without
the baggage, Like he's Stefan Digs with a with an
(32:38):
immaculate personality. So I was like, okay, all right, Colston
loved them to the Colts and that feels right. However,
I will say there's some teams that are tight end
thirsty that are after that that might might look to
leap frog them. How about the Cowboys with Matthew Golden.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
I think I'm pretty sure that's the way they go.
They are in the McMillan potentially marketed. Well, I think
it's receiver either way there though, Yeah, because you have
tech McMillan go to the Crackers like the dark Horse.
There would be Booker the guard just because you know
how Jerry loves his offensive line. The Packers areking a
wide receiver in the first round. I almost wanted to
lost this thing in the trash right when I saw that.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
I would say Falcons. Uh taking Mike Green, I think
that's pretty much a lot. I think that's a lot
because their pass rush was as they wanted.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
They wanted Michael Williams, but he's not going to get there,
and so I think I think Green is probably the
direction they wind up going there.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Green Green.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Two separate sexual assault allegations.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
One high school, one in college, yes, one in Virginia
before he went to Marshall.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Yeah. And I'll say this, I will say this about that,
and that's a serious thing, and I don't want to
go into the details of all that, I will say,
I don't believe that's something that will ever be repeated
from him. I'll just just based on what I know
of those situations.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
And I would say the one the one switch I
would say on my draft is I say the Packers
they're taking a Meco instead of instead I could.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
I can see it.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
It just feels like they need that guy. They thought
Christian Watson was going to be that guy. He has
kind of but he just has to be health healthy.
His hamstrings are.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Held together by man should we go?
Speaker 4 (34:13):
And that takest swear to dude like that's That's the
issue though with the Packers is this, and you know,
for the Packers that may just move for receiver at one,
which they haven't done in ten plus years, So it
has to be for legitimate number one. And that's that's
where they've struggled, is because they haven't had a number one.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
I will say, whatever else other complaints you have about mcmillion,
I will say, he is an ex receiver. He is
that if you're projected, if you're looking at you're looking
at him as a number one guy. So these other
guys are not a book that you're not looking at
him necessarily as that X receiver. You know you're not
really I mean, he can't. He can be over there,
but he's more of a Z. Matt Golden's Z.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
So the Packers have a bunch of guys in the
middle middles.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
So because Watson is the only guy who has an
and how many games are you gonna play? Let me
ask you this.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
I this has always interested me. What like what would the.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
I know what mine would be, But what would you
when you say Abuka really doesn't play X. He can,
but he's mostly so what in your mind?
Speaker 1 (35:17):
What are the Well, if you're looking at X, you're
usually looking at a bigger body guy who played the slant.
He's up on the lines. He could play off there.
You know, if you're playing press man against him, he's
going to beat press Man. You know those kinds of things.
Where is the Z you're off the line, you know
you're gonna see motion, You're gonna find ways to move around. Now,
with the advent of the power slot over the last
couple of years, you find a lot of big bodies
going into the slot as well. You find, you know,
(35:37):
you find a little more variety to these things are
traditional than you traditionally did. But I would say, if
you you know, like overwhelmingly, where am I if I'm
sitting here at a vacum plugging him on all the
depth art, where am I plugging him in? I'm probably
plugging those guys in at the Z I'm probably plugging
a big millan, And I'm not putting him in motion
necessarily all the time. I might use him on a
power slot fade at the goal line just to take
advantage of the size. But I you know, for me
(35:58):
in X is a bigger body, box out type guy,
jump ball guy who beats press man and as he is,
you know a little bit quicker twitch athlete, but probably
somebody who's maybe not quite as good with the press man.
I gotta move around in that regard.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
That hasn't changed over forty years, right, That's pretty much
what it used to be.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Oh, the three first round wide receivers, Dave, how would
you stack them? And I guess to that point of
what you really need right versus Matthew Golden, And how
would you stack them? As far as your interest in
their ability?
Speaker 3 (36:25):
I think McMillan is more of by Ben's definition, and
I would tend to agree with that, he'd be more
of an X. I think the kid from Texas can
play both go I think because of his speed.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
You know, I got to be honest about it. I have.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
I've seen him where maybe not a great ball catcher
over the middle of the field. I've seen a lot
of guys that aren't great ball catchers in there. But man,
oh man, I mean you talking his strides eat up,
cushioned quickly. So and you're talking about Abuka more of
a I like his route running more than I like Golden's. Now,
(37:11):
Golden may develop into a great route runner, but I
don't think he ran a lot of those type of
routes at Texas. Fly post deep over, yeah, right, I
mean he's utilizing and heck, if you got an athlete
like that, I mean you want to get him to
space and get him downfield to create big, big play.
So Abuka to me is a little bit shiftier an athlete, right. So,
(37:35):
but I think he's all three of those kids are
going to be good player, really good players.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Ben A question coming in here about your hidden message
that you're going to be sitting tweet tomorrow. They'll all
know what it is.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
When I do it. What has the hidden message been?
Speaker 1 (37:45):
I mean everybody was bodix. You know, I coded it
using the first letter of each word. Like, when did
you do?
Speaker 2 (37:54):
I mean I remember that?
Speaker 1 (37:55):
But what what I did it was that the day
of the draft, three o'clock in the afternoon, the day
of the draft. I think I did it like four hours. No,
it's like one o'clock. So it was like five hours
for the draft.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
And I was like, it's so, can people count on
maybe five hours before tomorrow's draft?
Speaker 1 (38:06):
I will release the puzzle tweet around It'll be real
close to three thirty tomorrow, three thirty three thirty? Why
so specific? That's I want to give everybody in the
time so they know when to look for it.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Okay, don't have to go. So we're on the air,
by the way, four thirty tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Is that was that where we found out? Yes, so
the Rockies are going to extra tomorrow or you just
letting me know.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
I'm just letting you know that we're probably going to
you know, my pants have software.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Just willing it to happen, right, the Rockies?
Speaker 2 (38:39):
You gonna win tomorrow, he asked politely.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
I think six.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Will it?
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Four?
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Half eighteen? Is four and eighteen.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Yes, and they get to ten wins before the fourth
of July.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
That is actually a very good question. I like, well, no,
they'll get there, gonna.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Get away tonight. They're good. They're good.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Tonight, we're good. Been out of town the last two
nights and so I haven't followed. Who do they play tonight?
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Kansas City? Okay, they got Hermon and Marquez on the
Marques a chance, but you still.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Got a score at least one run. That is rich.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
Analysis. Yes, I'm just saying, you know, I I hope
you know. The city of Denver does better when the
Rockies are doing good. Summers are a little bit better.
But what's just not there yet.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
It's not there yet. It's not there yet. It's been
a great job on this Mancire, all right, check it
out of a ka Colorado dot Com. We're right back.
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