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April 25, 2025 • 33 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:02):
We've got Rockies baseball coming up here. What time is that?

Speaker 3 (00:04):
Six o'clock are coverage and they're playing the Reds playing
the Reds.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Okay, Kyle Freeland on the mount.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
What he's uh, he's zoning four.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
So I'm I'm picking tonight the Rockies win, Freelan gets
his first victory. Here we go and he goes into
the seventh.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Oh wow, Okay, I.

Speaker 4 (00:26):
Know, but please don't text five six, six, nine zero.
I know the Rockies are four and twenty. I'm just
telling you. I think they win tonight. I think Freeland
gets his first victory, and I think he gets into
the seventh inn.

Speaker 5 (00:38):
Well, it's not what we have for showing the money.
We have Lakers, Timberwolves. But you are running away with
this thing at seven and one on the week.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Is that right?

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Everything is as it should be?

Speaker 1 (00:50):
That it yea as usual usual?

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Second place six and two, six and two. Yeah, all right,
Well they've fixed last, so we'll see what. I can't
buy it. You know how many second place finishes?

Speaker 6 (01:02):
You know what?

Speaker 3 (01:03):
I missed a couple of days earlier, and all of
a sudden he had picks that I didn't even know.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
Unfortunately, they hit. Yeah, so maybe I'm better picking when
I'm not here.

Speaker 7 (01:14):
Going to run the score upon us allowed to do that,
all right, So let's talk about Shude or Sanders here
for a moment.

Speaker 5 (01:23):
It's sort of a tough thing, right because I think
that a lot of us are very much rooting for him.
We wanted to see Shdoor Sanders go in the draft
in the first round.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
He did not, Dave.

Speaker 5 (01:32):
First of all, how surprised were you on that portion
of it? And then where do you think he ultimately
goes tonight?

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:38):
I was surprised. I mean, I can't say that I
wasn't surprised. I didn't see him going as high as
many had projected earlier in this process. I know that
he had New York Giants cleats made, and I didn't
see that at three. But I did think, honestly, I
didn't think he would fall below the Steelers at twenty one.

(02:01):
He did, and so I would guess that he's going
to go in the second round. And when it's all
said and done, it's going to come down again, Like
for every other player, but especially for quarterbacks, where do
you go, who's the coach and the coordinator and what's
the system and those are going to be really important,
important things for him. The Giants moved back into the

(02:21):
first round last night, but move back in to take
Jackson Dart, So you knew when they move back in, Okay,
you don't do that unless you're trying to get a
quarterback more.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Times than not.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
But the quarterback out of Mississippi goes in front of
Shudurah Sanders.

Speaker 7 (02:36):
I was I'm not surprised because of conversations that I've had,
Like I thought the clock started at Pittsburgh and you
know it could go well into today. There are I
think the teams that he keeps getting projected to our
teams he's not going to be going to. I would
be stunned if he goes to New Orleans.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
I don't think he's going in the RAN.

Speaker 7 (02:54):
I think their guys, Tyler Shugg I'll put it that way,
and let's leave the rest of that conversation probably alone.
But you know, there are some teams I think they
could sneakily be in play for him. About the Raiders, maybe,
I mean, you got the Tom Brady connection, but they
have so many holes, like it feels it feels I.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
Could see that one.

Speaker 7 (03:11):
That one seems to be the obvious one, but at
the same time, they've got so much they need to
do that. I don't know who better to be a
mentor for him, though, the Gino Smith, like I fell
into the second round.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
And Tom Brady to a lesser extent.

Speaker 7 (03:22):
It's been around everywhere and seen it all. I mean,
Gino would be the perfect mentor for someone like that.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
The Colts, I think could sneaky be.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
In play there.

Speaker 7 (03:29):
I mean, I don't think they're settled at their quarterback position.
They got Daniel Jones and they got Anthony Richardson, but
I don't think that's inspiring anybody.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Maybe you add a third body there.

Speaker 7 (03:37):
And what about the Rams Maybe, but he's the opposite
of what Sean McVay looks for. Sean McVay looks for
guys that get it out quick and they have.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
A huge arm.

Speaker 7 (03:44):
And for whatever you think of Shner, those are the
opposite of his trains. What about the Browns' I mean
maybe yeah, right at the TV. I don't know if
those first two picks, though, I think they look an
offensive lineman and receiver, and I think he was there
a little bit later, towards the third, I think they
would pull the trigger.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Well, yeah, I mean you're right. You got the Browns
who were thirty three and thirty six. Yeah, they got
two picks right there at.

Speaker 7 (04:04):
The top, and then another one I think from the
Jags a little bit later, don't they at the third?

Speaker 1 (04:08):
In the third? Yes, but that's just then. But that's
uh yeah, right there at sixty seven, he were there
at sixty seven.

Speaker 7 (04:13):
I think that's where I think he starts warming up
for the for the Browns.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
But that's you know, that's just me.

Speaker 5 (04:18):
What what are we going to be saying at that point?
I mean, we're going to be pretty well into the
draft night. I mean we're talking like eight o'clock at night.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Well, I mean these teams have already made their voice.

Speaker 7 (04:26):
No, if you believe in a quarterback, you're taking him
in the first If you believe in him, you're taking him.
And these teams have already made it known as far
as that goes, like, well, we don't believe in him
as that guy, but we would be willing to take
a shot on him a little bit later.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Yeah, I I mean.

Speaker 5 (04:41):
It feels like the tape is good enough. Is this
more about the personality? Is this more about the flash?
I mean, why are we here because it seems like
the numbers and everything he did in college, besides you know,
holding the ball too long in those kinds of things,
it feels like that's a first round quarterback.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
I think.

Speaker 4 (04:58):
I mean, it's it's hard to I've seen on social media.
I've seen conspiracy theorists say that the league conspired and
all thirty two teams agreed that they would not take
Sitary Sanders. Listen, that's if it's not the dumbest thing
I've ever heard. It's like in the top five that

(05:20):
I can tell you this. NFL teams would basically sell
a family member, I'm not kidding, in order to get
a quarterback that they really thought would be a difference maker.
There's very few things NFL teams would not do to
get that guy, so that that theory is just pure nonsense. Now,

(05:46):
if I had to, and again I thought he would
go in the first round.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
I think this.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
I think I think it's a combination of things right,
and I do think I do think maybe personality has
played a small part in this. I think having coach
Prime is his dad, I think is scared some teams
with respect to drafting him. I think, you know when

(06:14):
you are a quarterback, and I think Shadu has been
a really good player, but if you look at his tape,
the NFL has always been a league that has fallen
in love with big, cannon, armed, strong quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Doesn't mean they get it right, but they look.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
To those guys and they fallen in love with those
guys much easier than they fall in love with a
guy like I don't know, Tom Brady, or a guy
that is really accurate with the ball but doesn't have,
you know, a huge arm, or a guy that is
not you know, I mean a guy that doesn't have
great athletic ability. I mean, Chadour is not going to

(06:52):
run and do all that stuff. And I think if
you just add all those things together, and I do
think again personality and I think his dad play a
part in this because I think the presence of coach
Prime and his willingness to speak out and say anything
and basically do anything. I think that given the rest

(07:17):
of the stuff, I think that has sort of frightened
off some NFL teams.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
I'm totally with you.

Speaker 7 (07:23):
Yeah, point, we're at the combine at dinner with a
you know, the coach and front office guy, and they
were in the market for a quarterback and they straight
up said, look, our jobs are on the line here
and if I put together a bad game plan, this dad,
this guy's dad is on McAfee, NFL Network, ESPN and oh,
by the way, his twitter's got fifty million followers, and
they're they're blowing me up for something that may or
may not be my fault. But he's putting that narrative into,

(07:45):
you know, into the atmosphere. Do I really want to
do that for a guy that we have graded out
as Teddy Bridgewater.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
So you know whether the people that are hearing us
right now, whether you're.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Like, well that that you know, that's shallow and that's.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Book sure, but it's also true. Yeah, it's true.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
So I think again, when you combine all those things together,
it's like, I think, I don't know, let's pass.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
And that's why I think he goes tonight.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah, believe he'll go tonight.

Speaker 6 (08:13):
You do.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
I do believe we'll go tonight. This isn't like you know,
Matt Liinert, where the media was way hyping him over
what he really wants you know this, there's there's there
is talent here. But he might be the fourth quarterback.
He might be he very well could be.

Speaker 7 (08:25):
Yeah, you know, you got guys like Jaylen Milroe and
Tyler Shull got there, and you.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Think you think that one of those two guys goes
in front of you doer.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
I think it's possible.

Speaker 7 (08:32):
I wouldn't do it, but I think it's possible. Sugar
is the Saints guy. I mean, like, that's that's probably
who they're gonna wind up taking it, is it?

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Sug I thought a shuck.

Speaker 8 (08:39):
I thought it was shocked too. But we could go.
You know again, I butt your names all the time.
So oh you're confused, Ryan, Yeah, you are confused, you know,
But I say, embrace it.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
That's that's right. Just be proud, right to be proud
of that flag, very proud. Yeah, and you're right. Jaylen
Milroe is another name.

Speaker 5 (08:58):
There's a lot of intrigue on Jalen Milroe. Great a
team that takes a swing on him, and then we're
talking about fifth quarter. I think the more the dialogue
becomes as if the league is rejecting him somehow, when
I think more.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Of this is just about the fit.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
I think I think it would be a fair analysis
to say that the league kind of rejected him last
night as a first round guy because there's there's a
lot of stuff that they're worried about. Some of it
shad Or can't can't control in terms of arm strength

(09:33):
and athletic ability.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Some of it I think comes.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
Again with his dad and sort of the personality of
the player.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
And I think that that.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
But but I don't think the league colluded, no uh
and got together and said, hey, no matter what, none
of us are going to draft this guy.

Speaker 5 (09:51):
That I just I just don't believe that all we're
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(10:11):
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Speaker 1 (10:33):
Okay, so we'll get back to the draft here in
a second.

Speaker 5 (10:35):
But Dave Man, we've been we've been talking a lot
of Nuggets recently, and.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
You have been telling me that you're You're fine, We're good.

Speaker 5 (10:42):
I shouldn't pay it say that. You've been saying that
all along. You consistently told me that I worry too much.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Dude. Just I mean, generally speaking, well, fair, you do.

Speaker 6 (10:54):
It's fair.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
It's a fair comment.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah on me.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
You know, I'm not as confused as Ben, but I
do worry.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
No, no, no, two totally different topics, totally different nom
I'm worried about the Nuggets now.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
I mean, if we saw.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
That last night three, I mean, good lord, there there's
a reason the Clippers were favored in the series, and
then after they won Game two, they now have home
court advantage. And so I don't know what the current
number is, but I would guess the number, which was
like a buck thirty. The Clippers were buck thirty favorites

(11:31):
before the season start a series started. I would imagine
that's probably one eighty or maybe closer to two to
one now. So the Nuggets obviously have an uphill climb.
Are they capable of winning the game in Los Angeles?

Speaker 2 (11:45):
They are? You know, they've they've.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
Got to figure out how to generate more points, and
that's easier said than done. I mean, you got Joker,
you've got Jamal Mpja just hasn't been the same and
you got to wonder whether he's going to be able
to continue. And they just don't have enough firepower. This
is no earth shattering news to Nuggets fans because it's

(12:08):
been that way. You'll you'll have a game here, a
game there, maybe a stretch of games in which the
bench plays well and guys knocked down shots, but not
consistently enough. And so the issue playing a team like
the Clippers, which by the way, they they work pretty
damn hard on defense. They're pretty good on defense, the
issue is how do we generate enough points from people

(12:31):
other than those named Yokich and Murray and I don't
have a good answer for that.

Speaker 7 (12:37):
Well, and they were, they were a decent scoring team
all year if you look at the averages. But the
reality is that they don't have depth, they don't play defense,
and you know, you can't.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
You can't have those two things and have a cold night.

Speaker 7 (12:47):
And then you got Porter shooting one to six from
downtown and you know, and that it's you can't. You
can't be an offensive and only offensive team and have
off nights. You gonna lose. We saw in Game two
Kawhi got ready. I don't know, that was one of
the most impressive performances I ever saw.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Thirty nine.

Speaker 7 (13:01):
Kawhi look like by the return of Michael Jordan, he
couldn't miss. It didn't matter what you did. They were
playing great defense. He couldn't miss. But this wasn't that.
This was just the fact that the Nuggets are, you know,
gone cold, and you can't have a cold night like that.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Westbrook can't resurface, No, he can't.

Speaker 5 (13:15):
And I also add in their their the perimeter defense
man last night eighteen three pointers given up.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
I mean, it's it's tough about it.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
I think the Clippers were twelve of twenty two, just
maybe at one.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Point, at one point they were. Yeah, they ended eighteen
to thirty.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
They were twelve to twenty two in the first half.
In the first half, you're shooting better than fifty percent
from three. Yeah, I think they had nine three persons
like the first quarter or something like that. I mean,
they were just absolutely on fire.

Speaker 5 (13:41):
But again, this was something we detailed as going to
be a bit of an issue for the Nuggets because
it's been an issue all season.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
And if the Clippers get hot from behind the arc,
they're doomed. No confusion here.

Speaker 7 (13:51):
If you're not going to play defense and you're also
not going to score, you're not going to win.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
This is like a John maddenism, Like you just.

Speaker 6 (13:57):
Argue with that.

Speaker 7 (13:58):
I'm just I mean, how passduction they gotta score more
points than the other team too? Well?

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Right, and you see it's really simply the formula here.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
They score more points of the Clippers, they're gonna win
the series. They stand in a real good shot of
winning this game.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
If they do score more than.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
The Clippers, well they got to the game tomorrow. I
must win, right.

Speaker 5 (14:17):
I sort of hate the must win concept because mathematically.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
That's not true.

Speaker 5 (14:21):
But we'll just say, now you're down too and one,
you got to find a way to get tomorrow nights.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
You just have to.

Speaker 5 (14:26):
I mean, while the Avalanche for just a moment. They're
also now down to one. It was I think sixty
two seconds in regulation. Dallas has led sixty two seconds
in the entire series so far, and yet the Abs trailed.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
Yeah, I mean that again. You think about Game two
down there, we talked about that. I thought the Abs
let one go that they could they could have got
and in hockey, you know we've seen it happen before.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
You mentioned. I thought the.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
Abs outplayed outplayed the Stars in Game three and then
two Lake goes one and overtime and all of a sudden, Wait,
we're by hind in the series. So as much as
the game in LA is a must win for the Nuggets,
I think I think Game four is really important for
the ass one hundred percent.

Speaker 5 (15:11):
All right, we come back Voice the Broncos Dave Logan.
I had a chance to sit down with the newest
Denver Bronco, Jade Baron.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
We'll bring you that exclusive interview coming up next.

Speaker 5 (15:20):
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Speaker 1 (15:25):
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Speaker 7 (15:31):
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two coverage begins at five o'clock, so about twenty five
minutes from now, the Cleveland Browns will be on the
clock and we will find out what they ultimately do
and honestly, if they.

Speaker 5 (15:48):
End up going with a quarterback. They got a couple
of picks here at the top of the draft. The
Broncos up picking fifty one and eighty five tonight. We'll
get more into that here in a second, but earlier today,
if you miss it, voice the Rocos, Dave Logan had
a chance to sit down with the newest Denver Bronco,
Jade Baron, and here was that conversation.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Shada, welcome to Denver.

Speaker 4 (16:08):
I talked to you a little bit last night when
when you got to call from the Broncos and they said, hey, listen,
you're going to be our first round draft choice. What
two or three thoughts immediately popped into your mind?

Speaker 6 (16:20):
It was all worth it.

Speaker 9 (16:21):
Every investment that I did, all the things that all
the places that my mom took me to go train,
taking me from Bogston to basketball to track practice, the
football practice.

Speaker 6 (16:30):
It was all worth it, and it was all for her.

Speaker 9 (16:33):
I allowed her to invite anybody she wanted to yesterday.
So you've seen a lot of people back there, and
it was her day and I wanted her to enjoy that.
My mom, she she meant everything to me. So when
they told me that, I knew I could change my
mom's life forever.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
You know, you played a lot of positions at UT
and I want to ask you. Obviously the club will decide,
but where do you see yourself in terms of an
NFL secondary guy.

Speaker 9 (17:00):
Honestly, you know they're smarter than me. They're gonna put
me just like where the staff at Texas. They put
me to benefit the team, to benefit myself and ultimately,
but to benefit the team. So I know this staff
here they're gonna put me where needed, whenever, wherever they
put me. I'm a master to that, and I'm gonna
work on that craft. I'm gonna do what I need
to do and own my role for the team.

Speaker 4 (17:20):
So when you were in high school, you had to
play some offense? Right where did you play?

Speaker 6 (17:24):
I played receiver?

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Okay, all right, no running back, So.

Speaker 6 (17:28):
I was running back up to tenth grade. My whole life.

Speaker 9 (17:30):
I just start playing defensive back until I was tenth grade,
my first first time I started playing safety tenth grade,
going into tenth grade.

Speaker 4 (17:37):
Wow, I was at your press conference here a little
bit earlier today.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
It seemed like.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
You've got a real sort of calm demeanor to you,
And I want to ask you where where does that
come from?

Speaker 6 (17:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (17:51):
Again, my confidence, but my conference is getting just understanding
who I'm gLing. Fine, I'm not. I won't be stressed
out there. I don't go out there scared. I don't
out there worrying. I give all my worries to him.
I had my past to come the other day for
the draft, and he talked about being a lion. You know,
a lion someone's tough. He's going to give you everything
he has, and it's a time where a lion rests,

(18:13):
when you rest. Yesterday was I can't do anything. I
can't control anything. I already did the things I can control.
I controlled the controllables, and it got me to the
point where I was at yesterday, And that was God yesterday.
You know that all that was God yesterday, him placing
me to his position where he most believed and he knew.

Speaker 6 (18:31):
I was fit for. And then that was all him.

Speaker 9 (18:33):
He orchestrated that he put me here with Broncos Country
and it's gonna be amazing.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
I think that that's an awesome answer. Last couple, when
you when you you know, when you're in college, it's
it's it's it's like a business, it's work. You're worried
about the next opponent. You're watching film. Did you ever
find yourself being able to watch, like extensively watch NFL
games and if so, who did you enjoy watching.

Speaker 6 (18:58):
I watched a lot of guys.

Speaker 9 (18:59):
Again, I watched you to you know, you know my coach,
he watched NFL tape all day. He'll tell me the
things that he was doing, a lot of great things
that he was doing.

Speaker 6 (19:07):
So always watching him and stuff like that. I'm real
good friends with PJ. I worked out with him. I
met PJ Lock when I was in tenth grade.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Wow.

Speaker 9 (19:13):
Yeah, I was in tenth grade and working out with
his uncle. We're working at Houston. I'm literally like doing
condition to sprints with with PJ.

Speaker 6 (19:21):
Lock. I was in tenth grade.

Speaker 9 (19:22):
So I got to see him today and it was
just exciting and exciting feeling. You know, those are the
guys that I looked up to when I was when
I was a little kid, when I was in high
school and things like that, and they were ever playing
at UT I was the one to put on the
burn orange after them. So it's just fun that I
get to put on another orange.

Speaker 4 (19:37):
So yeah, absolutely, I'll get you out of here on
this Give for for Broncos fans, and we have a
lot of them to listen to this show. Give me
two or three things that you bring to this club
that maybe people might not know and until they see it.

Speaker 9 (19:53):
I think my connectivity, you know, I connect very well.
I respect everybody. I treat everybody as saying, from the
janitor to the president. And that's big. That's how my
mom raised me to always give that out. Must respect
and you will receive without most respect, and that'll take
you further than football. So I think that's big. And
then two, just my love, my love for the game.
But I won't even say his love for the game.

(20:14):
It's just understanding that I'm going and find God.

Speaker 6 (20:17):
I can't.

Speaker 9 (20:18):
I wouldn't be here without him. I'm not a fool.
It says, don't be a full I still have to
work for the things. But at the end of the day,
God's gifted me with disability and with disability to go
out there and do things that I do. God's gifted
everybody with the ability. He's gifted you with the ability
to be able to do what you're doing today, and
it's our job to do the best we can to

(20:38):
the fullest. But at the end of the day, he
did gift us with disability. And then three, just just
my want to the essence, you know, me staying committed
to what I said I'll do long after the mood
has changed. So I know it'll be rough days, it'll
be tough days, and it'd be hard days and things
like that.

Speaker 6 (20:53):
But if I can just.

Speaker 9 (20:54):
Keep my keep keep my mind focused and just understanding
miss a long term goal, but just staying committed to
the process, you know, the process, it'd be the result
the process. What you put in, you're gonna get what
you put in to come out. So you just always
just keep grining and just keep going.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
That that is a fact. Hey, listen, congratulations, welcome to Demmer.

Speaker 7 (21:12):
Appreciate you all right, really good stuff there, good conversation.

Speaker 5 (21:17):
We'll get the interview up at Kwakylarado dot com. We
actually had a chance to interview Jade last night as well,
right after he was drafted. So all these interviews, as
always can be found on the iHeartRadio app, which is
now redesigned like you have in your car. So so
this is a preset as well as a preset for
k HOW.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
Just a little bit of a programming note coming up
at six o'clock, the Rockies will be here on KOWA.

Speaker 5 (21:38):
We will continue our draft coverage on k HOW six
thirty k HOW, but you can find that on the
iHeartRadio app and it'll sound crystal clear, really good stuff there. Man,
And I know that we talked about it a bit earlier,
but before we get into sort of a preview of
what we expect to happen on day two, around one
of the drafts, we saw some saw some highlights, also
a few surprises.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
Ben, Was there anything that jumped out to you from
last night.

Speaker 5 (22:01):
I mean, we didn't really get a chance to kind
of go blow for blow for each pick, but I
did think there were a couple of surprises. First of all,
start out with Jacksonville and the Browns executing that trade
for Travis Hunter, seeing where the tight ends went with
Colton Loveland going ahead of Tyler Warren was certainly a
bit of a surprise for me.

Speaker 7 (22:19):
What else stood out to you, Well, let's start with
the we knew the trade up about an hour out.
I think we sort of knew that that was that
was brewing there in the ether. I felt like, I mean,
I love Travis Hunters as a player. I felt like
Jacksonville paid too much, but you know, is what it is,
you know, the Yeah, Colston Loveland going first with the

(22:41):
medicals there, that that certainly was was eye opening. But
I guess he cleared that in you know, in Chicago, Booker,
you know in Dallas, not that you know, I mean
in Jerry's a former offensive lineman and he loves offensive lineman,
so I get that. But that was that was a
little surprising, especially with Matt Golden still sitting there, and
they do need some receiving help, but I guess they

(23:01):
felt like they could get that later.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
I will say this about Tyler Booker.

Speaker 7 (23:03):
I don't know if you guys watched his interview after
he got picked, but that's the coldest thing I've ever
seen that guys, He's like, I can't wait to get
out there.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
I'm gonna make these guys forget they love football.

Speaker 7 (23:12):
They're gonna line up against me every play and I'm
gonna see the light die in their eyes everything.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
And I'm just sitting there like, oh my god, wow,
the coldest.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
He is a road grader.

Speaker 7 (23:20):
Oh yeah, I love to sitting there and play after
play watching the love of football slowly die from the
light in their eyes.

Speaker 5 (23:26):
Good luck to him, no doubt. I like the interview
with Will Campbell right after he was drafted. He's kind
of broke down a little bit and he was like,
I'm gonna do everything I can to protect Drake May
and that.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
I mean, it's cool.

Speaker 5 (23:39):
Again, it's a reminder as you were talking with Baron there, Dave,
I mean, it's a reminder of what this dream can
mean for these.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Guys on a personal level.

Speaker 5 (23:47):
He talked a lot about his mom, but I mean,
just like how much how life transforming it is, because
it's not only just the dream of being in the NFL.
It's a dream of knowing specifically what team took you
and picked you and what situation you're going into.

Speaker 4 (23:59):
Yeah, I think for a lot of kids, I mean,
it's a it's it's the culmination of a lifelong duram
what what they have to remember is that this is
not This is not the end of it, even though
it kind of feels like, man, I made it, but
it's it's literally the start of it.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
So you enjoy the fact that you're a.

Speaker 4 (24:20):
Draft choice, in this case, a first round draft choice,
and then uh and that was one of the things again,
and so many things impressed me about shot A Baron,
But he, I mean, he seemed like he understands what's
in front of him. And so I think, I mean,
a lot of guys come in and they get caught

(24:42):
up with where they're drafted, and you you got to
make sure sure that whether you're a first round pick
or a seventh round pick, or maybe you weren't picked
your college free agent, when you come for your mini
camp and you come to compete in the summer, everybody,
I mean, the first rounders have a little bit of
an edge, but everybody he kind of starts from zero,
and you don't want to What you don't want to

(25:03):
do is get out worked as a number one, two
or three round draft choice by six or seven that is.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Just hungrier and works harder than you do.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
That's exactly right. So coming into tonight day two, and
I think.

Speaker 5 (25:16):
This is appropriate based on a little bit of our
Shad Or Sanders conversation from earlier. Some of these guys,
especially at the top, thought they should have gone.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
In the first round.

Speaker 5 (25:24):
You know, you maybe build a chip on your shoulder
as a result of something like that. But you know,
the second round, I think for a lot of people
would be like, hey, this is still such a huge honor,
such a great opportunity. But some of these guys, there's
a expectation. I thought it was a first round pick.
I'm a little annoyed by the fact that I didn't
go when I did.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
Yeah, I mean that that absolutely exists. It existed all
the way back when I was drafted. I'd broken my
ankle about three weeks before the NFL draft playing basketball,
and I mean it cost me even though we you know,
the operation was good and we sent letters out and
it's all good, but it still knocked me down.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
I want to one in the third round.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
So I think I think the most successful athletes over time,
whether in football, basketball, base but whatever, are guys that
have that chip on their shoulder. And if it's not real,
then it's contrived. But it feels real to the athlete
and it drives them, and when you get tired, you

(26:21):
can think about it and it pushes you. And I
think that's I mean, there are plenty of examples of
that taking place.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Start round still better where I got drafted into the Army.
So it was I listed, you're so weird? Why are
you the way you are? Why are you the way
you are?

Speaker 5 (26:39):
I was looking at it by way, this comp for
Jeda Baron of Cooper de Jean here on ESPN. I've
seen that comp before.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
Well, you had a pretty good season in Philadelphia, didn't
a pretty good player to pick comics in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 7 (26:51):
I would have gone with Mika Fitzpatrick and he's pretty
good player, but I mean make a really played I
mean he played that star role for for Nick Saban,
like he played that that's corner Ibord roll for say
and I get the Cooper Gene thing though, Well it's
sort of.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
That utility, right.

Speaker 5 (27:05):
I Mean, that's what we talked about him last year
coming out of the draft. I mean we were saying,
and we were all big fans of his, we just
didn't think that they would go with another white dB
after going the year before with Riley Moss.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
You say, too many white guys a dB get.

Speaker 5 (27:19):
I don't have a problem with that, but remember Alfred
tell it me football guys.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Alfred told me he's like, they.

Speaker 5 (27:24):
Will never do that, they will never go back to
back years. And I was like, Cooper de Jean's the truth. Man,
I'm telling you.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
In the NFL, get your beating.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
But I tell you what I like that.

Speaker 5 (27:34):
I mean, and I've seen Chris Harris out there as
a discussion point for what Jade could be. Uh Honestly,
some people that have been pushing back on the idea
of drafting as slots, assuming that maybe that where he
plays predominantly in the first round, did they not see
Trip McDuffie be tremendous they were with the Kansas City Chiefs.
I think we live in an era of NFL football

(27:56):
where drafting an elite slot player is actually a really
good thing.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
That's my potake. I think you have to have one now.
I mean, it's just the way the league is now.

Speaker 7 (28:03):
Nicholas Base and so I think I think you're right.
I love the Chris Harris comparison. Chris was a safety
in college at Kansas before he converted the corner in
the NFL.

Speaker 4 (28:11):
The difference is as great as Chris was in the league,
and many he's one of the great players in Broncos history.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
This kid runs better, right, So.

Speaker 4 (28:22):
I think I think it would be sort of a
badge of honor for for Baron to be compared to
Chris Harris. But realistically, this kid is is our head athlete.

Speaker 6 (28:33):
Yeah, yeah, the one.

Speaker 5 (28:34):
The one knock I remember during the pre draft process
and even today as I was kind of going back
and you know, check out some of the national media
and the reaction. By the way, the Broncos have gotten
glowing remarks across the board last night as a retweeting
basically everybody talking about him, a lot of national punnets
that is one of their steals of the draft. They
couldn't believe he was there. I picked twenty, What a
great pick for the Broncos. All those kinds of things,

(28:55):
despite the fact that some of the local media are
still complaining about it today.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
But him into a punt returner, right.

Speaker 5 (29:01):
But the big, the biggest thing that was sort of
knocked against him is they didn't know at five ft
eleven hundred ninety four pounds if he could function.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Outside at the NFL level. What do you think about that,
David that I think it's a fair question.

Speaker 4 (29:14):
Okay, uh, because that I'd have to think about it.
If you think about starting corners in the league at
five to eleven and one ninety, I'm sure there are some,
but I think most of the starting corners would be
a little bit bigger.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
So I get that.

Speaker 4 (29:33):
But again, I think you know, he's he's proven, he's
a good player, he's an excellent tackler. He's not fearful
of coming up throwing his body in. We've seen DB's
in the past that you know they wouldn't tackle you
if you were stealing.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Your KEYV set right out from the middle.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
Of your family room. You know they just opened the door.
So this kid is not one of the one of
those kids.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
So what Alex Day, even if.

Speaker 4 (30:01):
Somebody walked in your house and was feeling your TV,
you'd throw your body absolutely woun't be a teaching tape
on bad form, but it would be.

Speaker 5 (30:10):
Yeah, I mean, keep your head up.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
It's not gonna be pretty.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Keep your head up.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
I say, I'm actually gonna make contact. I'll probably it
would be a tipsy I.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Would look at it and say how old is that TV?

Speaker 1 (30:24):
See, I have two TVs. It would have to be
the right TV. That's what you're like, we need there's
one TV.

Speaker 5 (30:30):
I'm like, I've been thinking about a placement. Anyways, go to.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
You. No, I think that's absolutely fair.

Speaker 5 (30:40):
But now he's he's a great tackler, really a plus tackler.
And again, I think he's gonna be tremendous for today.
And I know we're gonna we got our coverage Colter
starting at the top of the hour.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Just for a moment. I don't know, Manu.

Speaker 7 (30:51):
The Cleveland Brown's right on the when around the clock
at the top of this thing, the Broncoes picking fifty one,
I'm pretty excited about the options they're gonna have been. Yeah,
looking forward to seeing how this thing shakes out.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
I think you're gonna see a couple of quarterbacks go
before the Broncos.

Speaker 7 (31:05):
I think you're gonna see a run on receivers before
that can all be good news. I think you see
a couple of corners before the Broncos, and I think
that'll help the problem is, I think you also got
to see a couple of running backs and tight ends
in there. Uh, and that worries me, especially Dame Brugler
there with the projecting the the.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Browns to get me a heart attack there at the.

Speaker 5 (31:21):
Top of the top of the round, taking Trayvon and
Mason Taylor.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Just be paid.

Speaker 7 (31:26):
I'd just be said that I have to go find
a bridge and have Mike Cliss watch me throw myself
off it.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Just helos.

Speaker 5 (31:34):
He'd give you a fair eulogy in that moment, Michael
reddi Gray's eulogy for me.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Yeah, he's like, you know, he was often misunderstood and
play for lunch. So I think people in media get
that joke. Yeah, that's always seen with the TROLLI bag.

Speaker 5 (31:49):
I know for you, Dave, I mean the early expectations,
even for the draft down, even just for the Broncos
at fifty one. I mean you agreed we might see
a little bit of running, the quarterbacks running, maybe some
receivers here.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
That seems like a good news for the Broncos.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:01):
I think again, as we talked about earlier in the show,
I think I think the Broncos will have another running
back when Tonight's action is done. When they get through
the third round, they have two picks, one and the
second one and the third I'll be very surprised if
one of those two picks is not on a running back.
Very deep running back class, and so I think there's value.

(32:25):
There's there's value getting a running back in the second round,
but if there's a receiver that you love there, I
think the running back position is a bit deeper in
this draft than even the wide receiver position. So when
it's again, when it's all said and done, I think
running back. The second pick between second and third round,

(32:49):
if I had to guess, would be and this will
purely be a guess, I would think receiver.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
So you're thinking of instead I do. Okay, all right,
we'll looking forward to we'll have some
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