04-25-25 NFL Draft 2nd and 3rd Round Coverage

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As they open a three game series against the Cincinnati Reds.
So follows seems like we were just here about I
don't know, thirty minutes ago, covering the draft last night.
But the story, obviously, if you've watched ESPN or NFL
networker listen to us during the course of the day,
the story right now. I think the narrative for most

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people following this draft is where does CU quarterback Shador
Sanders wind up tonight? If we can assume that it
will be tonight, And that is the question.

Speaker 7 (01:56):
You know, some of these teams, like New Orleans and Cleveland,
I think they're high on Tyler Shuck than they are
on Shador.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
We'll have to see.

Speaker 7 (02:04):
Obviously, the Giants already traded up and got their guy
with Jackson Dark. That leaves few other options out there
with legitimate paths to being a starter in the near term.
Maybe the Raiders where he's got the relationship with Tom Brady.
Maybe Dallas and you sit behind Dak Prescott for a
couple of years, sneaky. I think the Colts could be
in play there. Again, they don't have their quarterback situation

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really settled. It's gonna be a competition between Daniel Jones
and Anthony Richardson to failed former first rounders, why not
inject a little bit more talent in that room. So
it's going to be interesting to see where he lands.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
Very much looking forward to it. And maybe the president
earlier today calling the NFL owner stupid, maybe that will
help things. I don't know, we'll see, but yeah, I
mean the discussion point about Tyler Shuck, about Jaln Milroe,
about some of these Day two quarterbacks, because we think
both those guys are going to go in Day two
and how does that really impact his market? I honestly
think that it really just comes down to the individual

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team fit. If you see in Shador Sanders a quarterback
that you can build around, then you're going to go
get him. And I do think the Jalen Hurts going
in the second round a few years back is going
to sort of help him a little bit, or help
some of these quarterbacks maybe get boosted up a little bit.
We'll see.

Speaker 5 (03:13):
We are going to head to Green Bay.

Speaker 6 (03:15):
The Commissioner, Roger Goodell the National Football League is back
on stage to officially open the second round of the
NFL Draft tonight.

Speaker 8 (03:24):
These players represent the two thousand draft class. On his
twenty fifth anniversary. One of the greatest classes in history.

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That draft brought.

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Us the first and only time a club.

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Had first four first round draft picks, twelve All pros,
twenty eight Pro Bowlers, one Hall of Famer, and a
quarterback who has become known as the Goat.

Speaker 5 (03:50):
Yeah you know him.

Speaker 8 (03:53):
Also on the stage, we have players from Wisconsin to
represent this great state and great city Green Bay.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
Are you ready for Round two?

Speaker 5 (04:12):
Unbelievable?

Speaker 4 (04:13):
Great to see your arm.

Speaker 8 (04:14):
Round two, the twenty twenty five NFL Draft is officially open.

Speaker 4 (04:20):
The Cleveland rounds are now on the clock, Toby.

Speaker 6 (04:26):
So there you go, Cleveland Brown's with the first pick
in the second round. Let's talk a little bit Ben
and Ryan about the Browns. They traded out of the
second pick last night in the first round, traded down
to the fifth overall pick, traded with with Jacksonville.

Speaker 5 (04:45):
So what are the Browns? Ben?

Speaker 6 (04:46):
Do you think we'll look at here tonight starting the
second round?

Speaker 9 (04:49):
Well?

Speaker 4 (04:50):
I think there are.

Speaker 7 (04:50):
There's the heartbreaker option right off the top. They could
take Travon Henderson right off the top. Here, the talent
of running back. They do need running back help. Obviously,
Nick Chubb, you know, is not going to be I
think the there anymore to move on from him, and
I don't think they'll bringing him back. So they need
some help there at the running back position for there
jeh Ford, But they need more.

Speaker 5 (05:07):
Than that obviously.

Speaker 7 (05:08):
If you look at the offensive line, they could probably
use a tackle. You get the kid from Minnesota nursery
who could be in play there, and they need some
receiver help. So specifically this out they got they got
Jerry Judy, they got center Tillman, who they like a lot,
had a concussion down the stretch last year.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
But they need a slot guy and they need a
tight end. So I think there's.

Speaker 7 (05:23):
Gonna be offensive picks, probably for the Browns, but it'll
be interesting also again quarterback in play there as well.
As you've got Kenny pick At Joe Flacco sitting there,
you know, maybe maybe you go get a Tyler Shukee,
maybe you go a should do her Sanders.

Speaker 5 (05:35):
I don't believe that'll be their pick.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
I feel like if you're Cleveland, you mentioned their quarterback situation,
maybe you're in a bit of a mindset of of
we're just gonna sort of take our medicine this year.
We're gonna play one of these guys and we're just
gonna understand that. But I still think that an opportunity
to invest in that position. And I don't think it
matters for say Andrew Berry to keep his job or
Kevin Stefanski to keep their job. I think this is

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more about like giving your your fan base some hope
understanding because because again it's not to say that Kenny
Pickett and Joe Flacco couldn't be serviceable for you, But
if you're trying to sell to the fan base something
beyond this year, it's certainly not Deshaan Watson.

Speaker 5 (06:13):
So what are we selling? Well, I think you take.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
A quarterback here, which is good news for the Broncos,
whether it's pick thirty three or otherwise. You got two
picks here at the top of the second round. I
think you got to take a quarterback. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (06:24):
I mean, if you're the Broncos, you're hoping for the
three quarterbacks that you just named all to go yes
before you pick in the second round, obviously, because it
then knocks down three potential players that you could have
an interest in.

Speaker 5 (06:38):
I with Cleveland.

Speaker 6 (06:41):
I mean, to me, this is a This is a
really big pick because I think if you look and
Ben was talking about the quarterback situation.

Speaker 5 (06:49):
You look at I mean Joe Flackell.

Speaker 6 (06:50):
The one thing that Joe Flacco has going for him
is when he did play for the Browns, it took
over for the injured Deshaun Watson. He was pretty good.
I mean he led the Browns. You could make the
case he led the Browns to the playoffs. They got
blown out in a road game in Houston, but I
mean he was He was an above average quarterback, even

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at his advanced age, in limited time in that in
that year. So if I would look at quarterback, if
I'm Cleveland, I think for a lot of reasons that
that Ryan just talked about. But also Ben, they do
have some glaring needs on offense.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
No trade.

Speaker 5 (07:29):
The Browns are going to make the pick.

Speaker 7 (07:31):
They are turning to Cardi and as we speak, they
got some calls though they did they did have did
have calls, but they are going to make the pick.

Speaker 5 (07:38):
I don't I don't know where to.

Speaker 7 (07:40):
You know, where to go here with with this. I
don't want it to be Trevion Henderson, but my gut
says it probably will be at least with one of
these these first two picks that they have that.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
Would be a bit of a heartbreaker, and Broncos fans
that wanted to see him picked at twenty last night,
I certainly feel like there was a missed opportunity. Some
of them were upset that it wasn't o'maron Hampton. But
we found out when the Broncos after the fact that
wasn't a guy they would have taken it at twenty anyways.
And I think we can sort of separate that out right, David.
I mean, you say, on one hand, it's a player
you wanted, but you have to acknowledge that the organization

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ultimately has final say and if it's not their guy,
it's just not their guy.

Speaker 5 (08:13):
Yeah, no doubt about that.

Speaker 6 (08:15):
What I heard after the pick was that the Broncos
felt like they had somebody who was close to Omar
and Hampton and said in estimate.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
Yeah, how interesting they went. They did not go with Travia.

Speaker 5 (08:31):
On the inside linebacker.

Speaker 7 (08:32):
Brown's gonna take the linebacker out of Ucla. Swenger, Yeah,
I gonna take Carson Swestnger out of Ucla.

Speaker 6 (08:37):
Wow, right off the top.

Speaker 7 (08:38):
They're interesting as they go defense again, as everybody thought
they'd go offense.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
I love Carson Swessnger. I mean you're talking about a
guy that that is an uber athlete, had a tremendous
season last year at UCLA as an inside linebacker. I
remember getting a chance to talk to him out there
at the combine. Kind of he didn't have a lot
of crowd around, which I was kind of surprising, like
this is like rock solid day two pick player here
and he just I was like one of like four

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or five people hanging out with him, and I got
a chance to talk to him for about five or
six minutes, and I just asked him about how are
you going to test?

Speaker 5 (09:12):
And he's I expect to kind of blow this thing away.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
And he's really confident but super talented player.

Speaker 10 (09:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (09:18):
I like him a lot.

Speaker 5 (09:19):
This is interesting. They're really loading up for Jim Schwartz
on that defense. Is he's going to be an inside guy? Yeah,
I mean he's an inside linebacker. I know he played
inside a Ucla.

Speaker 7 (09:29):
This is this is fascinating to me because you know,
this was a team that you felt like had a
pretty good defense.

Speaker 6 (09:35):
We're going to head back to the podium and Joe Thomas,
former all time great with the Browns will announce the pick.

Speaker 11 (09:46):
That's right.

Speaker 12 (09:52):
I attended UCLA for four years and my major there
was bio engineering with all.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
Right, well, there you go. But Carson sweesssinger, like I
said he was, he was kind of a rock solid
Day two pick all along. There were some people that
thought he might go as high as as of the
tail end of the first round. But here he is
going first pick. But what do you think, David, Is
that good news for the Broncos. Ultimately? Maybe he wasn't. Yeah,
I mean you be targeting anyway.

Speaker 6 (10:18):
Yeah, the swashinger about two hundred and forty pounds, a
little over six to two, and I agree, obviously pretty
active defensively and they and they did move him around
quite a bit. But yeah, I mean I think, I mean,
given with Brown, what the Broncos did in free agency
with with Drake Greenlaw, I can't imagine that in the

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second round they would have been, you know, in the
market for an inside linebacker. So yes, I think this
would probably be viewed as good news by the guys upstairs.

Speaker 7 (10:48):
Anytime you're taking a position the Broncos don't need it.
Helson Broncos by pushing good players down. I think it's
a good player. For Cleveland to one hundred and thirty
six tackles last year.

Speaker 5 (10:57):
He's he's, yeah, he's a.

Speaker 7 (10:59):
Good Player's interesting to me that Cleveland is making a
significant investment on the defensive side of the ball, and
they were a decent defense last year.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
And they were they were pretty decent defense most of
the year. They had some still they got in here and.

Speaker 7 (11:10):
Some stuff towards the end where it got bad, but
you know, with injuries and all that, but they were
a decent.

Speaker 5 (11:13):
Defense last year.

Speaker 7 (11:14):
I wonder what a guy Shelby Harris thinks about that.

Speaker 5 (11:17):
Texans are going to take Jayden Higgins here.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
Yeah, in thirty four expected the Iowa State receivers to
big wide receiver.

Speaker 6 (11:22):
He is a good player. That's got one of my
kids the plays at Iowa State. So I've had a
chance to see quite a bit of tape on him.
He's he's I like his skill set very much.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
By the way, Joel Klatt was on NFL Network just
a minute ago, said he thinks le Broncos are going
to move up for running back.

Speaker 5 (11:40):
So just something to keep our eye on there.

Speaker 6 (11:42):
Wow, So so that that could mean Henderson is back
in play.

Speaker 7 (11:47):
That could Travion Henderson be back in play. I think
I feel like you have to trade to thirty eight
to get him, because I feel like the Bears are
going to take him to the year thirty nine or
forty one, So I feel like you'd have to trade
there to get him. I think the other way you
could do it is you trade uh fifty one in
a future second and move up and maybe get a
little something back on that Wow wow, and maybe get

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will something back because a future second for you, if
you're Denver, you expect to be in the playoffs, after all,
this is gonna be a late second round or early
you know, almost like a third, So you probably look
at that like that, and maybe you maybe you flip
that and get a six back on top of it.
You know, it's extra ammo in this draft to move
up into the you know, into the third or fourth.

Speaker 6 (12:24):
But I mean that given the track record here, even
though Sean has been a guy over the years that
has traded up to get certain guys, but given the
track record of George Payton uh in combination with Sean,
I mean they would have to really love whatever running
back to give up that kind of draft capital to
move up.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
Yeah, well it was Seahawks are now on the clock.
They just traded up to the Titans pick that's interesting.

Speaker 7 (12:47):
They could be in the market for running back from
They'll probably move on from Charbonne. They'll keep Nneth Walker,
I think, but they'll move on from Zach Sharbonay. They
could be in the market. They could also be in
the market for receiver here as well. Like I talked
about this running receivers. They obviously moved DK and lock Lockett.

Speaker 5 (13:02):
Yeah, you got Jackson.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
Smith and jig but you need to put somebody opposite him.
You think running back, huh? I mean that they're they've
got two really good ones, but they're gonna move on
from Scharmon a Okay, So really Sharbone is the one
that they're gonna keep Keny Walker.

Speaker 5 (13:14):
I think they'll keep Kenny Walker. I mean he's been
a more productive player.

Speaker 7 (13:18):
But you gotta think, like with what Kubiak runs up there,
that offense and what they're shifting to, you need you
need a possession guy on the other side of the
Jigba and then you need another running back like they
like to run in that in that blocking scheme.

Speaker 5 (13:27):
It is on blocking scheme.

Speaker 4 (13:28):
So all right, so Seattle here pick thirty five. They
traded number fifty two and eighty two to get to
thirty five.

Speaker 7 (13:37):
So basically the trade I outline, think get out the
thirty's or less.

Speaker 4 (13:40):
Yeah, because you talked about fifty one and eighty five
YE would probably take to get up in this range.

Speaker 6 (13:45):
The Higgins kid out of Iowa State again shows the
I think the league and how they view wide receivers
and in particular how much value they place on big
wide receivers. Right, I mean, I love Higgins is a
little taller than six or four. Yes, a lot of
these early wide receivers are guys that you know, not

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small guys.

Speaker 5 (14:10):
They're big athletes.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
But in two years, one hundred and forty receptions for
two thousand, over two thousand yards and fifteen touchdowns.

Speaker 5 (14:16):
It's a good route runner.

Speaker 11 (14:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (14:17):
True, I guess here is receiver or a defensive player.
They've got a few defensive player players that they need.
Might make he is a defensive coach, but I would
think receivers something they need. They already addressed the offensive
line in the first which receivers do you like?

Speaker 5 (14:29):
Here? For Seattle, see.

Speaker 7 (14:31):
With the bigger guys. You know, you could say bash
although I think I think they like the Raiders. I'm
excuse me, The Rams like him. Trey Harris, Yeah, Trey
Harris could be somebody Alewis don't don't don't sleep on
the defensive side of the ball, one of these defenders
that slipped through the second round. I think I think
Mike McDonald be willing to take character risks on some
of these guys.

Speaker 4 (14:47):
Go get your guy. Luther Burton, miss that's the guy
that I like for the He's fun.

Speaker 5 (14:53):
Man, he's fun.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
I mean again, you don't take you don't take that
guy and not have a really.

Speaker 6 (14:58):
Fun, interesting plan for And he's the oppisode of what
I just talked about with respect of the receivers that
have been picked.

Speaker 5 (15:04):
Oh they took Nick em Worry, Yeah, defensive stand out there.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (15:08):
I like him. Mike McDonald.

Speaker 7 (15:10):
You got to think back to what he was doing
in Baltimore when they had the receivers there.

Speaker 5 (15:13):
That makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 4 (15:14):
Okay, well, and again this is good news for the Broncos.
I like Nick and Mworry. I mean, but he wasn't
going to be an option for the Broncos. He first, Well,
he's never getting fifty one, and it's not something they're
really probably eyeing at this point anyways, So who's next.

Speaker 5 (15:26):
Browns are back on the clock.

Speaker 6 (15:28):
Rounds are back on the clock. It is five sixteen.
We will step aside and of course come back and
continue our coverage of the second and third rounds of
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The twenty twenty five NFL Draft continues.

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Speaker 4 (16:09):
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We welcome you back to Broncos Park powered by Common
Spirit as we cover the National Football League Draft. Second
round is underway. The Broncos of course have the fifty
first selection if they decide to stay there. There's a
report out that Denver may be attempting to move up

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in the draft. That come from schefter no Joel Clatt
Joel Klatt Okay for sports.

Speaker 7 (16:45):
Yeah, he was on the NFL Network and suggested that
they woul might be looking.

Speaker 5 (16:48):
To move up for a running back.

Speaker 6 (16:49):
Okay, Ryan Wance, you recap what we've done so far
here in the second round.

Speaker 5 (16:53):
Absolutely all right.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
So started out with the Browns selecting Carson Swessinger, inside
linebacker at a UCLA. The Texas took Jaydon Higgins out
of Iowa State, six foot four wide receiver. The Seahawks
trade up to thirty five to select nick Emmon Warry.
He was a defensive back out of South Carolina, and
moments ago, the Browns take Ohio State running back Quinn

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Sean Judkins. Not Traveon Henderson well thought of running back
score fifty touchdowns in three seasons?

Speaker 13 (17:23):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (17:24):
You know, I I was not.

Speaker 7 (17:26):
That was one of Nick's favorite guys, was Quinn Show Judkins.

Speaker 5 (17:29):
He liked him better than he did.

Speaker 4 (17:31):
We argued about that one quite.

Speaker 5 (17:32):
I argued with him too.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
I liked Quinn Show Judkins fine, just fine.

Speaker 5 (17:35):
But I like traving On a little better.

Speaker 7 (17:37):
As long as more running backs go, more war receiver, safeties, whatever,
let them, let them happens. As we get Travion falling
closer and closer to maybe some striking range for the Broncos.

Speaker 6 (17:47):
Let's head back to the podium in the Cleveland Browns
making their pick.

Speaker 4 (17:54):
I already went okay this let's so there you go.
They're gonna take Quinn Shunk. So they have the Raiders.
Now the Raiders are on the clock here at thirty seven.
I don't know what the Raiders are gonna mean. They're
obviously not taking running back. That's good news.

Speaker 5 (18:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:06):
Well the funny thing was, remember there.

Speaker 7 (18:11):
Remember the combine when I was talking to Vinie Monsignori
out there and they yeah, they're talking about the possibility
to double it up with Jant and Judkins. Well that
that possibility has gone now because Judkins is obviously gone.

Speaker 5 (18:21):
But Chip Kelly.

Speaker 7 (18:22):
Did coach Travon Henderson this past year at Ohio State.

Speaker 5 (18:24):
The offensive coordinated there.

Speaker 7 (18:25):
Although I suspect they've got enough holes on defense.

Speaker 5 (18:28):
They probably need to look over there. Maybe a corner here.

Speaker 4 (18:31):
Yeah, I can tell you who's uh well, I mean
you they Will Johnson. I guess theoretically Will Johnson.

Speaker 5 (18:34):
Ben Morrison maybe had a Notre Dame.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
Yeah, that would be at a name that's it's been
up there. Let me just pull up the next So
if they're gonna go corner, Will Johnson, Chavon Ravel is
in this range. Trey Amils was a guy that was
rumored out of Ole, miss that could go into first
round early Day two. I really like as a Riah
Thomas out of Florida State. That's a guy I really like.
I had a chance to chat with him out the combine.

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He likes to pattern his game after passers hand and
of course you would of course who wouldn't write, But again,
let you know, lengthy corner. He's six foot two hundred
ninety seven pounds and he's a press corner. So again,
I'm not trying to sell the Raiders on taking a
good player here, but that would be one of my
picks there at the top of the draft here on
day two. So Dalphins are trading up with the Raiders here, Okay,

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Miami is moving up.

Speaker 6 (19:22):
So what do we think Miami looks for here?

Speaker 5 (19:24):
Well, they need a corner.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
They do need a corner.

Speaker 7 (19:27):
Baron was the guy that was projected to Miami by
most of the league. Most of the league and their
internal mock drafts were thinking they were going to take
a corner. When Baron fell, that's where it was a
big surprise and landed the Broncos Lap wouldn't be surprised.
Morrison fits here Will Johnson. If you believe his knees
are okay, then then he fits here. But I would
I would guess a corner here for Miami unless I

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mean maybe offensive line, but the corner would be my guess.

Speaker 4 (19:52):
I wonder what the again, you brought up a good
point earlier, Ben about the compensation, the trade compensation, and
how we're giving a little bit of a blueprint on
what the uncles that they decided to jump up into
this range, what that would look like.

Speaker 5 (20:03):
I'm really wondering. Oh, Dolphins are taking a tackle?

Speaker 4 (20:05):
Okay, good look it's a Jonah Southnaia. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (20:09):
Yeah, so it was Okay, here we go.

Speaker 4 (20:12):
It was thirty seven and one forty three to the
Dolphins for forty eight ninety eight and one thirty five.
That's a net point loss there. That is another net
point loss. So that that would that would suggest that
trading up would be cheaper than I thought. Yeah, So
thirty seven and one forty three to the Miami Dolphins
to take an offensive tackle, getting good news for the Broncos.
And forty eight ninety eight and one thirty five.

Speaker 6 (20:34):
Okay, So, as we continue here monitoring the draft, uh
no quarterbacks so far, in the second round have been
taken Yees so Ben or Ryan or both for Tyler
Shutt and also for Shador Sanders.

Speaker 5 (20:52):
What what is the path that you see now in
terms of.

Speaker 6 (20:57):
One or both of those guys being drafted in in
the second round.

Speaker 7 (21:02):
Well, New Orleans, I think for Shuck, although you know,
maybe forty Yeah, maybe you could sit on that a
little bit because I don't know what You're gonna have
a ton of competition for him necessarily.

Speaker 5 (21:12):
Do you think Shuck goes in front of Sanders? I
think gets very possible. If I were betting on it,
I wouldn't bet it, you know.

Speaker 7 (21:19):
But Red and Black here we go again, and well
that's I'm not putting my money down on that.

Speaker 5 (21:22):
But I would say that you go both.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
If you asked me to describe it, I would say possible.

Speaker 5 (21:27):
I wouldn't.

Speaker 7 (21:27):
I wouldn't term it probable at this point, but possible.
You got Milroe too, you know.

Speaker 6 (21:35):
Well, but Milroll is not going to go in front
of Sugar or Sanders might.

Speaker 5 (21:40):
Really I would never do that, but he might. I
would not do that either.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
These are just you know, some of the guys that
are in this range. Is the pick that we're hearing when.

Speaker 14 (21:51):
We head back to the podium, offensive guard Arizona.

Speaker 4 (21:57):
Let's go okay, yet, I think what we're for us here,
we have an NFL network, So I think that the
it's a little bit off on the timing there, but
that there you go, oh, he's.

Speaker 5 (22:07):
An offensive tackle there. So now we have.

Speaker 4 (22:10):
With the Patriots on the clock at thirty eight and
then the Bears.

Speaker 6 (22:17):
You think, here, Ben, if the Broncos are actually thinking
about moving up, you think this would be the spot
they would move up to.

Speaker 5 (22:26):
Yeah, I think, uh, you know, I mean Trey. And
this is just again connecting the dots.

Speaker 7 (22:31):
On a relationship because Eric being to me, the running
backs coach for the Bears, has a good relationship with
Trevion Henderson. Ben Johnson of course drafted Jamiir Gibbs to
play a specific role. I wouldn't say Henderson gives are
exactly the same running back, but there are some similar
traits there that they can sort of fill a similar role.
You know, to me, this would be the spot for
Denver to get into. But you know, maybe maybe I'm

(22:54):
just overdrawing the lines here on you know, on a
connection to Chicago. With that, maybe the Broncos field, they
and they can sit back.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
Thirty eight felt like the number for me though, well,
because you have to get in front of the Bears, right,
like the Bears have been pretty vocal.

Speaker 6 (23:06):
I mean, at least I think they have to love
Henderson to make that move right, right, they.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
Have to al But that's where this is where Sean
gets a chance to say this is what I want,
the kind of like he did with Troy Franklin last year.
He called up Sean first thing in the morning, six
o'clock in the morning and said, hey, so called him George.
I'm sorry, call him George, and said, this is what
I want to do. I really want this, I really
want this, young man. And they had to jump pretty significantly. Now,

(23:33):
the price to move up in the fourth is different
than moving up in the second, as we know, it's
a big jump there. But yeah, the Patriots spot here
would be a really good one if if you were
going to try to get in front of these two
picks for the Bears, because the Bears are picking at
thirty nine here seventh in the round. Then you have
the Saints, which again Saints might gol quarterbacks that and

(23:54):
we won't be on running back right because they have
Alvin Kamaras.

Speaker 5 (23:57):
We're saying, if the.

Speaker 6 (23:58):
Broncos don't jump in front of the Patriots or jump
in front of the Bears, that tray Bon Henderson is
going to go with one of those.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
Kills to Chicago.

Speaker 7 (24:05):
They really I've been wrong before, I'll be wrong again,
but that's.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
My read on it, all right, So nothing nothing coming
down here yet. But I mean the Patriots are in
such an interesting situation really because I mean, you got
your young quarterback, you went offensive line in the first round.
I'm trying to think of what would they have a
wide receiver they could go, you know, maybe add more

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receiver help that that would be. That would be kind
of the lean I would have here if they were
going to do that. And we talked about some of
the receivers that are out there, including a Troy Harris,
who I like a lot at Old Miss. You could
also go Luther Burton, Jalen Knowle. I mean, some of
these guys are going to be Day two picks. I

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just don't know if it's too early. You know, I
really love is Kyle Williams. I love Kyle Williams out
of Washington State.

Speaker 5 (24:58):
One of my favorites, I think. But yeah, me too.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
Yeah, there's a few Day two wide receivers, Royals, Williams,
Jack Betch.

Speaker 5 (25:06):
So we all agree that Luther Burden is going to
go tonight.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
He's going to go tonight, but you gotta have a
good plan for that.

Speaker 5 (25:12):
That would be my guy again.

Speaker 6 (25:14):
Uh, yepkay, that would be my guy. Well, gosh, I
mean they that's a hard one, you know. I think
Henderson is a really complete and very talented back for sure.
I think Burden provides the team with something that they
do not have right now.

Speaker 5 (25:37):
They don't.

Speaker 6 (25:37):
I mean, you have it a little bit with Mems,
but Mems to me is still more of a downfield guy.

Speaker 5 (25:43):
You can use him in the Jets sweep.

Speaker 6 (25:45):
Burdon is really good after the catch, which means if
you're really good after the catch, you'd be really good
after the handoff on jet sweep, you'd be good on
bubble screens.

Speaker 5 (25:56):
He's a guy that.

Speaker 6 (25:58):
And I've been saying this for a few years now,
I think the Broncos need guys that can make somebody
miss and turn a four to five yard gain into sixteen. Now,
they they might completely disagree, but we'll we'll see here
as we sit and wait for Are you.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
All surprised that Judkins went ahead of Trevion Henderson?

Speaker 6 (26:21):
Is there like a little little higher yeah, a little
bigger back. And what I liked about Judkins was and
this was the guy. Really he was a really good
player at Old Miss, Yes, and then he pretty much
could decide where he wants to go. I mean, he
knew who.

Speaker 5 (26:35):
Was at Ohio State.

Speaker 6 (26:37):
He went and said, hey, I'm going to compete and
we'll we can share the low, but I'm going to
a good team. I'm going to compete it. But those guys,
I'm telling you, I mean, that's a rare, rare quality nowadays,
where guys they run to competition.

Speaker 5 (26:53):
Who who who got taken? Travion yep going to New England?

Speaker 6 (26:58):
New England took him. Okay, that's the end of that done. Yeah,
the dream is over.

Speaker 7 (27:02):
Is the New England Patriots add help around Drake May
taking Trevon Henderson and that belief puts Carolina on the clock.

Speaker 4 (27:12):
Well, how good?

Speaker 6 (27:14):
I mean, really, Ohio State wins the national championship. They've
had I'm doing this off the top of my head,
so they've had two backs taken in the second round.
Did they not have two offensive linemen taken last night
in the first round?

Speaker 4 (27:25):
Yeah, yes, yeah they did, Yes they did. By the way,
just for a second, this is exactly the pick we said,
Trevon Henderson needed to go right if you were gonna go,
if you're gonna take him, here the number, This was
the spot. So again we say that it would be
great if the Broncos were as interested in some of
these players as we are. But the Broncos, I mean,

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maybe they made the call. Maybe the Patriots said no,
But it feels like a b that's a bummer right there,
missing out on him.

Speaker 7 (27:56):
Well, you don't get everything you want.

Speaker 5 (27:59):
So let's why don't.

Speaker 6 (28:01):
We head back to the stage here and here officially
what we've just told you the Trevon Henderson, the excellent
running back.

Speaker 5 (28:09):
For the Ohio State Buckeyes.

Speaker 6 (28:10):
Is the newest member of the New England Patriots. CRECUMES
Commissioner Roger Goodell.

Speaker 8 (28:16):
Special Olympics team up to provide opportunities for athletes of
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Speaker 4 (28:35):
You got the stage well with the thirty eighth pig.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
In the twenty twenty.

Speaker 8 (28:47):
Five NFL drama the New England Patriots selects.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
Trevia Henders. There wa ohios k is that's such a
bomber and then once again it's like not close.

Speaker 5 (29:08):
I guess it.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
Would hurt more if it was like a couple of
picks before the Broncos. Then you'd feel like, man, we
could have had him right there. But this this would
have taken a pretty senim pick commitment. We've talked about it.
It would take your third rounder, and the Broncos, as
they've shown.

Speaker 5 (29:22):
Multiple times, they really like having those third rounders.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
George Payton has done some really great work for those
third round picks. So there's still a lot of good
backs out there. Yeah, you got tight ends still.

Speaker 5 (29:30):
To look at.

Speaker 4 (29:31):
Jalm Johnson's out there.

Speaker 7 (29:32):
Right, Mason Taylor still out there. You mentioned, you know,
Dave mentioned Luther Burton. There's still plenty of great, great
players out there right now. But I think that was
one that Broncos country the fans had kind of held
on to for a minute.

Speaker 5 (29:43):
So so here's the question.

Speaker 6 (29:45):
Now, the Broncos with the fifty first overall selection in
the second round. I'm wondering how many backs now that
Trayvon Henderson has gone, do you think will fall in
the remainder of the the second round as opposed to
being third round guys and available for when the Broncos

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have that pick in that round.

Speaker 7 (30:08):
Yeah, if that speeds up the good question at question,
that is a good question. We'll see, we'll see some
of that here directly. I Caleb Johnson be one. You
know that you you definitely keep your eye on there
out of out of Iowa. We've mentioned Dylan Sampson a
few times. I think he goes before that. You know,
in between now and that eighty eighty whatever pick, Devin

(30:29):
Neil's probably in there.

Speaker 5 (30:30):
DJ Giddens, R.

Speaker 4 (30:31):
J Harvey. Those are probably the guys that are that
are in that range. Cam's Kataboo Yah Tutan is gonna
go too, by the way, he will, Yeah, Bachel touton
out of Virginia at Tach.

Speaker 5 (30:40):
Yeah, I'll probably go to Dallas. We'll see.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
You don't think Cam'skattaboo is gonna go day two? Huh?

Speaker 5 (30:45):
Maybe late day two. I don't think he goes the
second round.

Speaker 6 (30:47):
No, I don't think he does either, but I but
I think he could go tonight.

Speaker 4 (30:51):
There's a lot of Broncos fans that really want Camskataboo.
Can you mention rick Lewis? Rick Lewis will be Cam's
gattab presidents of a fan club.

Speaker 6 (31:01):
He I mean, he was a productive player at Arizona State,
for sure, but I would say he's more of a
third round pick than second.

Speaker 4 (31:11):
Yeah, I mean that that's that's fair, and it's it's
it's sort of a discussion about like he's probably exactly
who he's going to be, right there's not They're not
really another level I think for Cam s Kataboo to
get to. I think you you sort of topped out there,
but even that version could be productive for you.

Speaker 5 (31:28):
You know what.

Speaker 6 (31:28):
Wherever he goes, he's I don't think he's in every
down back, but I think he'll be a productive four
or five year guy.

Speaker 7 (31:40):
I always I felt like the role for him, and
he's not the same athlete or build or whatever, but
I felt like the role for him was the same
role we used for Smajic p Ryan. You know, I'll
give him that third down, let it run hard a
little bit, you know, you can't have him as in
every the style that he runs with, he's gonna wear
himself down if you give him too many carries.

Speaker 5 (31:55):
You know, you said that violent running style.

Speaker 7 (31:56):
But a third down guy with that violent running style
and being able to catch like that, you could put
him in that p Ryan roll and get some production.

Speaker 4 (32:02):
Is there any reason whatsoever the Broncos would trade up
at this point? Or were you just because the trebon's gone?
Let's just I mean, if you believe someone there, But
I mean who do you?

Speaker 7 (32:10):
I mean, is there anybody that at this point, as
you look over this, you just gotta have I would.

Speaker 6 (32:15):
Guess know, unless they identify a wide receiver and they
think there's a team in front of them that may
take that specific guy, Yeah, I mean I would. I
think there's a pretty good chance that their pick, if
they stay at fifty one, is not a back.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
Wow, the Bears they just took Luther Burden.

Speaker 5 (32:33):
Did they?

Speaker 11 (32:34):
Okay?

Speaker 5 (32:34):
There you go?

Speaker 6 (32:35):
There goes that one.

Speaker 4 (32:37):
Don't dream it's over right.

Speaker 5 (32:39):
I think Luther Burton is going to be a very
good player.

Speaker 4 (32:42):
See, I like him too. It's a weird thing when
you have conversations with people that follow the draft and
following college football because he is one of the biggest
enigma players for some they like either I have no
interest in whatsoever, or they're like you and I where
it's like, no, I see it, I see it. And
you know, last year was a bit of a down
year from Missouri, I think over all, but two years
ago he looked like he could be a rock solid

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first round wide receiver. I actually think that this last
year you got a chance to see some of the
other versatile stuff that he can do. It just didn't
always look great for Missouri's and offense.

Speaker 7 (33:14):
Yeah, I'm you know, there were some questions about his
his sort of personality fit uh some places. Certainly there
were concerns about his ability to block. You know, somebody
called him a speed bump, which I thought was pretty funny.
But I mean, you know, he does have that quick twitch,
you know, shiftiness there, speed bump.

Speaker 4 (33:32):
I heard that he's a small guy. He's not. Yeah,
he's he's not.

Speaker 7 (33:34):
The world's biggest guy, and there's a specific role for him.
I just I don't know, we'll see. Obviously he's off
the board anoun so I don't have to worry about it.
But there's you know.

Speaker 5 (33:43):
There's still on time. So this is the thirty ninth pick,
Is that right?

Speaker 4 (33:48):
The burden would be the thirty ninth pick.

Speaker 6 (33:50):
Okay, and we're on forty oh Ohio State. In the
first thirty eight picks, had would that be right?

Speaker 4 (34:02):
Uh? Yeah, you have to make a.

Speaker 7 (34:04):
Look because you had on the defensive side, you had Williams,
you had two.

Speaker 4 (34:08):
Tackles, he had two running guys, has four, you had
a Mica book that's five.

Speaker 15 (34:13):
That's just the offensive side of the ball, I know.
And then on the defensive side of the lineman right
six six, yep, got six exactly. So the first thirty
eight yep. Well, let's no wonder they were in.

Speaker 7 (34:24):
The companition or national championship because the same thing we
said about Georgia that one year, although there came from
the defensive side of the ball.

Speaker 5 (34:32):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (34:33):
Mason Taylor maybe maybe in play here you know, gets
you just get you a project in line tight end
there with the NFL blood lines. Mason Taylor, of course,
the son of Dolphin's a great Jason Taylor, nephew of
Zach Zach Thomas and uh former student and his coach,
Brian Needermeyer's an offensive control guy here in Denver. So

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former that was his former coach back in high school.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
Right A, Right, So we got the Saints. Now, then
is this where one of the quarterbacks finally goes off
the board.

Speaker 7 (35:05):
Maybe this could be Tyler Show type type type of
spot here.

Speaker 5 (35:10):
I'm trying to think of what else New Orleans kind
of needs.

Speaker 4 (35:12):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (35:13):
They addressed the offensive line with Banks in the first round.

Speaker 4 (35:17):
Maybe you see a receiver here, maybe.

Speaker 7 (35:21):
You know I I think if you love that quarterback,
I think that this would be your chance to get him.

Speaker 5 (35:25):
Who do they have behind Derek Carr who was injured when.

Speaker 7 (35:28):
They got Rattler Jake Hayner, I believe yep, that's right,
that's right.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
You know if you said the Saints, I don't know
what you're doing here. You you're in such a bad
cap position. You really want to move on from Derek Carry.
They said publicly, Mickey Limis said publicly that they are
not tanking. They are not going to go the route
of trying. But nobody no.

Speaker 6 (35:51):
I know, but the message years ago, trust the process.

Speaker 4 (35:56):
But the message you send if you say that was
really good, as you just said, If you start Rattler
or Hainer is not one that's a winning program, right,
But if you draft a quarterback here in the second round,
you give some hope. And I said the same thing
about the Browns, right, drafting a quarterback, it just it
just brings hoping. Even if the guy doesn't end up
playing very well for you at all, there's just there's

(36:17):
some hope there. So I don't know what I agree. Oh,
there it is Tyler Shuck.

Speaker 5 (36:23):
So the Saints take Tyler Shuck.

Speaker 6 (36:26):
He is the third quarterback taken in the twenty twenty five.

Speaker 4 (36:29):
Sure it might be the fifth quarterback taken. Jaylen Milroll
might go before him. Man, as it would blow my
mind for me to believe.

Speaker 7 (36:39):
It would blow my mind having watched Jaylen.

Speaker 5 (36:40):
Milroll play for me too.

Speaker 7 (36:44):
Uh yeah, this, I mean this figure did had to
be the landing spot for Shure when you look at
when you look at what New Orleans still needs at
this point, they did believe in him.

Speaker 4 (36:50):
That was their guy.

Speaker 7 (36:52):
They love the Jackson Dart I mean, those were their guys.
I knew that it was not going to be Chdord
in New Orleans just based on knowing how that interview went.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
So you know, we'll see Tyler shuck.

Speaker 5 (37:03):
You actually had paired them a long time ago.

Speaker 4 (37:05):
Yeah, well they love they love Dart too.

Speaker 5 (37:07):
In that process they did, did they.

Speaker 4 (37:09):
Yeah. So we're at forty one now with the Bears
back on the clock, and this.

Speaker 5 (37:13):
Will be.

Speaker 7 (37:14):
They may go running back here. I mean if their guy,
if Trev Dun's gone, They're guy's gone. I don't know,
but then you could go running back here. I'm just
trying to think of the lob. Their defense is pre built,
you know. I mean, they Matty built their defense for
all these other flaws. They built a good defense there
in Chicago. I would not be surprised to see them
continue to hammer the offensive side of the football. Maybe

(37:35):
a receiver, you know, as you had you got a
doingsday last year. But you got some some aging guys
there too, and then Keenan Allen, you know, maybe you
want to put a younger guy in there.

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cover round two and three of the NFL Draft. The
draft now with the Bills trading up, I believe to
where the so yeah, they traded up to forty one

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where the Bears were selecting.

Speaker 5 (39:04):
Yep, and I believe they trade.

Speaker 4 (39:06):
Yeah, they traded two second round picks to make this happen.
What Gills. Yeah, that's that's what I'm seeing here. They
traded fifty six, sixty two.

Speaker 5 (39:17):
And one oh nine.

Speaker 4 (39:18):
That's an overpack for forty one seventy two, which is
the third rounder, and two.

Speaker 6 (39:23):
For They swapped second rounds and gave an additional second
round in defensive tackle.

Speaker 5 (39:29):
That makes a little bit more sense.

Speaker 4 (39:31):
They went TJ. Sanders. Yeah, Bowers, by the way, had
some incredible hurdle times.

Speaker 5 (39:36):
I mean he could.

Speaker 6 (39:37):
We were talking earlier about Tyler Warren, the big, the
big tight end who we all really liked the more
Penn State stuff I watched, there were times, and I
think I said this on the show a few weeks ago,
there were time I mean, really good athlete, good good
catch radius, good hands. I thought there were times he
looked a little heavy legged to me until I did

(39:58):
a little more research and I really he's two hundred
and fifty eight pounds. I mean, so he's not going
to be comparable because people, you know, are frustrated maybe
that the Broncos didn't get him.

Speaker 5 (40:10):
Maybe Tyler Warren.

Speaker 6 (40:11):
Turns out to be a great player, But when you
compare him to say, Brock Bowers. Rock Bowers was a
sprinter in high school in California. Thinking Ryan and Ben
and I were talking about this during the break. I
think brock Bowers ran like a ten to five or
something at and he is a big human, so he's
a downfield vertical tight end. I think Tyler Warren will

(40:34):
be more of a horizontal threat, big body to block
occasionally work the interior parts of the defense. Really good
ball catcher, but completely different tight ends in terms of stylistically.

Speaker 7 (40:46):
Bowers triple option quarterback in high school too.

Speaker 5 (40:48):
I didn't realize that, Yeah, he.

Speaker 7 (40:49):
Was triple option quarterback. The Bills moved up here, the
only thing I could think of was defensive line. I mean,
that's what they did.

Speaker 16 (40:55):
T J.

Speaker 4 (40:55):
Sanders.

Speaker 5 (40:56):
I was like, it's Sean McDermott. It has to be a
defensive line of South Carolina. TJ.

Speaker 4 (40:59):
Sanders. It's a good player. It's a really good player,
a really good run defender. Especially.

Speaker 7 (41:03):
I think that brings the number of Sanders that have
been drafted so far without their college number retired one.

Speaker 4 (41:08):
Oh boy, Colley, you couldn't You couldn't even couldn't even
not even for a minute. No, no, it's not good.
You know, it's interesting you bring up with with Warren
and even I think to a certain extent, Colson Loveland,
the teams that missed out on brock Bowers last year
was a big reason why there's a lot of discussion
about how these teams might jockey. He has one and
twelve catches, that's right. So there was just like, Okay,

(41:29):
well we missed out on Brock Bowers. We've got to
take one of these elite tight ends this year. But
a transfer either.

Speaker 6 (41:35):
Guy, neither first run tied end is like Rock Bowers,
at least on paper. They both might turn out to
be great, great players. I mean, I hope so. But
but neither one of those guys to me, at least
it has the downfield potential of a rockbou.

Speaker 4 (41:51):
To the Buffalo Bills.

Speaker 17 (41:54):
And with the forty first pick in the twenty twenty
five NFL Draft, the Buffalo Mills select TJ. Sanders, defensive
tackles South Carolina.

Speaker 4 (42:07):
Wow, that out. It's a good player. I mean, I
wouldn't say he's the top defensive tackle there at the draft.
I think Garius Alexander I thought he might go a
little bit earlier. But but you know, t J. Sanders,
like I said, it's what it's kind of what you need.
Tremart Turners, also out of A and M, is a
guy that I think is going to go here in
Day two. There's a couple of good ones, but I
mean again, you're talking about just a high floor player,

(42:29):
and he's a He's a guy that can eat up gaps,
great run defender. It's interesting for the Bills to trade
up for that, and it's to two second rounders. They
swap a third obviously in there, but they had to.

Speaker 5 (42:43):
Really like him.

Speaker 4 (42:43):
They had to really like him.

Speaker 7 (42:45):
I'll say this, Sean McDermott and and defensive line up
with a nine plus RADS score is is is always
gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (42:51):
And if I remember, he was close to like nine
and a half.

Speaker 7 (42:53):
Relative athletics scores lightweight speed score basically yep RAZ stands
for relative athletics score. It's basically a measure how how
fast athletic you are for your size.

Speaker 4 (43:03):
You're right right compe fit.

Speaker 7 (43:05):
Factors in your size.

Speaker 4 (43:07):
Just took Mason Taylor. Oh yeah, I'm not surprised there.

Speaker 7 (43:11):
I mean, you got the relationship, Darren Moujie. Not surprised,
not surprised. They were looking tight end in the first week,
and too they ultimately went a different direction. They come
back and get one in the second that that.

Speaker 4 (43:21):
Would have been you know, were talking running backs, but
that would have been one of the other alternate picks.
Once again, I keep coming back to it because Ben
and I've talked about it.

Speaker 5 (43:30):
We were out there of the combine his gauntlet.

Speaker 4 (43:33):
He ran that line as I mean, about as clean
as I think I've.

Speaker 5 (43:36):
Ever seen it. Super talented, he wasn't.

Speaker 4 (43:40):
It's funny, of all of all the receiving tight ends
in the class, he really wasn't one of the top
receivers on the team. But it's lsu for crying out loud, right,
They've always got receiving talent. I think he is a
bit more of that projection of like he's got the
he's got the the the pieces and the makeup of
what you look for at the next level. But again,
it's not to say that you can't get Elijah Royal
a little bit later on right, a Gunner Helm a

(44:03):
Thompson Ferguson from Oregon.

Speaker 7 (44:05):
You could even go into day three. I mean it's
not an inline guy, but Roonda gazd in the second
is a heck of an off the line. Why they
can roll around. He looks like a big wide receiver
with the ball in his hands.

Speaker 6 (44:14):
And the kid from Miami too.

Speaker 4 (44:15):
Yeah Royal, yes, yeah, And again that guy we know
is a good receiving tight end. It really is more about, like, hey,
you're probably not drafting him to be an inline blocker,
that is for sure. Yeah, Mason Taylor offered a little
bit of both. But again, there's a lot of good
ones and this is a great draft of the Broncos
for what it is. It's a great draft to need

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a running back in the tight end, it really is.
So I know that some Broncos fans I'm seen on
the text, I'm seen on Twitter, they're panicking, Oh my gosh,
we're losing out on all these great players. There's a
reason why that they believe this depth was going to
be to an advantage and that's why they could take
an elite corner in the first round.

Speaker 5 (44:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (44:53):
I think that again, given sort of the general consensus
about this draft, this year's draft, the Broncos are going
to get a good player in the second round and
they're going to get a good player in the third round. Now,
there have been some names that have already been picked
that you know, you would have been excited about had
never been able to pick them. But what I would

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say to Broncos fans now is that this is a
deep enough draft, and it's deeper after about pick twenty
in the first round through really the third round. I mean,
they're all sort of jumbled together. So I don't know
who they're.

Speaker 5 (45:32):
Going to pick.

Speaker 6 (45:32):
Honestly, I think it'll be a receiver and a running back.
I've said that before in the second and third round.
I'm just not sure as to which direction they go.

Speaker 5 (45:42):
I'll say this. I mean George Payton and Sean Payton
were honest in the presser.

Speaker 7 (45:45):
They said that there wasn't a huge gap between maybe
pick twenty and pick one hundred. You know, they are
holding true to their thoughts on that one question i'd
want to ask. It kind of came away with yesterday
and you guys, I don't know if you guys thought
the same way, but you see a lot of stuff
on so from me to better by telling you that
Sean Payton is in charge of everything and everything goes through,
and I believe there's truth to that. But I also
believe George Payton is running this draft because we haven't

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seen the Broncos go flying up the board for anything,
as Sean Payton used to do when he was in
New Orleans. Do we think that George has helped rain
Shawn's instincts in or do you think that maybe they
were just.

Speaker 4 (46:17):
Both, you know, feeling like they can wait this thing out.

Speaker 6 (46:20):
Yeah, I would probably say the latter. I think, in reality,
I think George has been really good at identifying what
Sean needed when Sean got here, not in terms of
the talent acquisitions, but in terms of what he needed
from a GM. And I mean I've always thought George

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was a smart, smart player guy understood player capabilities, and
if you look at the Broncos draft the last three years,
I don't know who could take issue with what they've done. Yes, So, yeah,
I think Sean is running theft. But I think I

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think the one guy in this organization over the course
of the last couple of years that has his ear
that I think he trusts, which is I wasn't quite
sure when he got here that this was going to
be the case. But that one guy to Sean is George.

Speaker 4 (47:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (47:18):
I honestly thought he was on the way out.

Speaker 4 (47:20):
I did too.

Speaker 7 (47:21):
I thought he's gonna bring his own guys in, especially
when they put brought to Cody Rager.

Speaker 5 (47:24):
Yep.

Speaker 7 (47:24):
But you know, in the end, I think they found
a great working relationship.

Speaker 4 (47:28):
I think it makes them both better. I never lost hope.
I believe he was saying in here for the long
haul did Yeah, but I got I got a George
Peyton tattoo. So it's weird sweat lower backway?

Speaker 5 (47:37):
Where'd you get it?

Speaker 4 (47:39):
Five six, six nine zero Again, if you want to
hit us up here, we'd love to interact some people
something that. Uh say, now that Mason Taylor's off the board,
should we trade back?

Speaker 7 (47:50):
Well, I think it depends on what you got there.

Speaker 5 (47:53):
Uh, let's let's talk about that.

Speaker 6 (47:55):
What what running backs right now do we project will
be of available to the Broncos? Should they stay at
fifty one?

Speaker 4 (48:02):
What pick are we on right now?

Speaker 5 (48:04):
Forty three?

Speaker 6 (48:05):
Isn't it forty three?

Speaker 7 (48:06):
Al right, so we're about the we're about eight picks.

Speaker 5 (48:08):
A wink the clock at forty three. Dallas is still
in there.

Speaker 4 (48:12):
Yep, Dallas. Dallas might take a running back. I don't
think the Colt The Colts don't really have a reason
to take a running back. The Rams probably not got
the Cardinals. You got the Raiders, the Bengals, and the Seahawks.

Speaker 5 (48:24):
Maybe Dallas. Yet it could could be on so maybe
two maybe two. Well, so what of the one of
the top three or four backs left you?

Speaker 4 (48:33):
Caleb Johnson out of Biowa Dylan Sampson's still there, Dylan Sampson, NEILJ.

Speaker 5 (48:38):
Giddons, R J. Harvey.

Speaker 7 (48:39):
Those would be my top guys, and people have like
scatabow In there probably, but I.

Speaker 5 (48:43):
Think Caleb's probably the top of that list.

Speaker 7 (48:46):
I don't know that he goes to Dallas though he's
a zone guy. I don't know that he goes to it.

Speaker 4 (48:52):
I don't know that he think Cowboys could take Shador
Sanders maybe. I mean, you know, Jerry, I do think
that is possible.

Speaker 5 (48:58):
I I absolutely think that is possible.

Speaker 4 (49:02):
That just seems like such a with all the rumors
the off season where they did call he called coach
prime because then immediately people are gonna start going to win.
Is you know, his coach prime going down? I think
the biggest person that would be against that would be
the head coach trying Schottenheimer now absolutely not absolutely.

Speaker 5 (49:19):
You know, trying to get Will McLay over there on
his side.

Speaker 7 (49:23):
Jerry comes running the coming off the set of Landman
comes run through the doors.

Speaker 5 (49:27):
We're taking chadur.

Speaker 4 (49:29):
God, can you have it just again? For the chaos?

Speaker 7 (49:34):
Oh, Jerry loves it. He's the PT Barnum at the end.
If he loves the patical, he loves.

Speaker 4 (49:37):
It would be good news for the Broncos. Undermine your
own quarterback to bring attention to the team.

Speaker 6 (49:42):
You know, Yeah, you know what Fellas I mean, I
hate to say, I don't hate said, but that that
pick actually makes a little more sense to me than
I would like to think it would. Yeah, we are
gonna step side now. By the way, Rocky's baseball coming
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Speaker 6 (51:04):
Took a selection in the second one that's going to
be pick number fifty one, and we when we last
left you, they were on pick number forty three.

Speaker 4 (51:15):
Yeah, been Alfred Collins from Texas. So I ended up
going there defensive tackle. The Cowboys of forty four are
taking Donovan is a roku who I really really like.

Speaker 5 (51:25):
A sixteen and a half sacks last year.

Speaker 4 (51:28):
The guy has I listen, I there's like Sars, the
guys you just like that. You know, the Broncos are
probably not going to be looking at and he would
be in that category for me.

Speaker 5 (51:41):
I thought he was gonna easily make it for the
first round.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
In fact, I thought it would have been right pick
there for Detroit, but they went with Tylee I think.
But anyways, Donovan is a rock who's a great player
out of Boston College, and that's a really good pick
for the Cowboys, although again we talked about the chaos
of wanting to see what the Cowboys would do, uh
and if they would end up going with.

Speaker 5 (52:04):
Shore Sanders who continues to fall? Who's on the clock?

Speaker 4 (52:07):
Now there we are now at the Colt Colt forty
five sneaky spot of running back.

Speaker 5 (52:15):
No, it won't be sneaky.

Speaker 7 (52:16):
Spot for a sneaky spot for the door here.

Speaker 5 (52:20):
Yeah, you know, possibly no, I'm saying that's not who
they took, but I would have liked that.

Speaker 4 (52:27):
Yeah, defensive side of the ball maybe.

Speaker 6 (52:30):
But twenty five NFL drafts, the Dallas Cowboys select Jnovan
as a rock whop defensive.

Speaker 13 (52:37):
Vent in Boston College.

Speaker 6 (52:40):
Now, so you you you think quarterback could be in
play here as the Colts are right now on the clock.

Speaker 4 (52:49):
Sneaky you know again, this is one of those things
where they don't have the position settled.

Speaker 5 (52:55):
And for me, I'm like, all right, well, if you've got.

Speaker 4 (52:57):
DJ Jones and and and Anthony Richard said, why not
fire off a shot there with you know, Shane Stikeen
and Chris Ballard's job.

Speaker 5 (53:05):
J Jones t J J.

Speaker 6 (53:07):
Daniel.

Speaker 5 (53:08):
I was gonna say they are stuck. If they Jones.

Speaker 6 (53:13):
Play, we're running that sucker. Yeah, you menagined lining up d. J.
Jones was a Wildcat quarterback. Remember why who is it that.

Speaker 4 (53:24):
Kansas?

Speaker 6 (53:25):
The big boy in C four the though and he
scored on the Broncos.

Speaker 5 (53:29):
Yes, Push, yeah, Push passed for a touchdown.

Speaker 7 (53:33):
Yeah, you lined him up by the big fellow back
there which I can remember.

Speaker 4 (53:36):
His name, was it not Holly? Uh?

Speaker 5 (53:38):
You know?

Speaker 7 (53:39):
Oh, goodness, they started with a D and I can't
think of his name, not the bottom pecko.

Speaker 18 (53:42):
But Derrek Noughty. No, we're close here. I can't remember
his name. I can't remember his name. Oh Man, big fella,
he's not there anymore.

Speaker 6 (53:52):
But that's when I knew the rivalry. Yes, that's when
I knew the rivalry between the Chiefs and the Broncos,
and in particular Andy Reid and the Broncos was forever solidified.
It's like, okay, because they were comfortably ahead in that game. Okay,
it's going to be like this.

Speaker 4 (54:11):
Three hundred and sixty pound defensive tackle.

Speaker 5 (54:13):
Back the Wildcat. Yeah, no doubt about it.

Speaker 4 (54:16):
So the Colts are going to deal with the defensive
tackle here TJ two and Moloa out of Ohio State.
What was his name, Tui Mola?

Speaker 3 (54:26):
No?

Speaker 9 (54:26):
I did that.

Speaker 4 (54:28):
Molua there?

Speaker 5 (54:29):
We we just call him Towy.

Speaker 4 (54:31):
Yeah, another Ohio State defensive tackle.

Speaker 5 (54:33):
That is for Ohio State.

Speaker 6 (54:35):
That is pick number seven, correct, And the first forty
where are we forty four? Forty? That was forty five.
That was forty five. Seven of the top forty five
picks from the Ohio State Buckeyes National champions national champions.

Speaker 5 (54:52):
That's right. So here's here's I think.

Speaker 11 (54:57):
Again.

Speaker 6 (54:57):
We were talking about the Broncos what they might at
the Rams Rams around the clock again, I think the
Broncos we'll look at running back here and the two
guys for.

Speaker 5 (55:10):
Me would be at the end.

Speaker 6 (55:13):
I'm out here, Matt and and the kid from Tennessee
that we talked Sam. I think those two guys. Does
somebody just take one of them?

Speaker 4 (55:23):
Still?

Speaker 5 (55:25):
Ferguson just went the tight end by the way from
Heritage High School.

Speaker 4 (55:30):
Yeah yeah, another Colorado.

Speaker 19 (55:31):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (55:32):
I thought he'd be a third rounder.

Speaker 7 (55:33):
And what I will say to you on a personal
note is that with the tight ends that are going
going off the board in your keeping up a real
nice for a former.

Speaker 6 (55:40):
Student years right back here, I am rolling with my
guy for sure. Uh great effort guy. Better athlete than you.

Speaker 5 (55:50):
Think he is.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
He started off at wide receiver for you, didn't he
he he.

Speaker 6 (55:55):
He was in the wide receiver line he sawphomore year
and then uh we moved him inside and he started
as a junior and a senior and became one of
the top most highest recruited athletes at Cherry Creek.

Speaker 4 (56:08):
There you go, Terrence Ferguson at forty six.

Speaker 7 (56:11):
Well, Colorado kid goes off the board there to the
Rams with Arizona here man, they have been focusing on
that defense.

Speaker 5 (56:18):
I wonder if they'll go receiver.

Speaker 7 (56:19):
I wonder if they'll continue to focus on the defense
there that John. Yet, I'll tell you they firmly believe
they are going to they are going to do something
in the way in the NFC West this year.

Speaker 6 (56:29):
I should have known the Rams were were looking at
tight end because I actually talked for quite a while
to I'm gonna forget his name, but sort of the
director of football operations out there and a guy that
works directly with Sean McVay about tight ends.

Speaker 4 (56:47):
Got it.

Speaker 5 (56:48):
Well.

Speaker 7 (56:48):
It's funny because there was a lot of people there
was this prevailing theory in NFL circles that the rumor
that the Broncos were trying to move up for Colston
Lovelin was a direct troll of Sean McVay, who last
year had put out the stuff about trying to get
ahead for bow Nicks to show that they were the
Shawn's we're back coatrolling each other.

Speaker 6 (57:06):
So well, nothing, I mean, nothing like that would surprise me.
Oh yeah, yeah, you know, so we the Broncos are
five picks away. That's correct, And congratulations to Terence Ferguson. Yeah,
the Heritage High School Graduate University of Oregon stand out.

(57:26):
It's a good player, and I think it's a really
good fit for him to go to LA.

Speaker 4 (57:30):
That that's sort of the tough thing, right, because certainly
there was a little bit of like, hey, wouldn't that
be great if bo Nix had a former team mate here? Okay,
well last year in Troy Franklin, but another one here,
reliable hands. I just think it. Yeah, it's a really
good athlete. But but you can't hate the fits. My goodness,
with with the Rams and what they do, a lot.

Speaker 5 (57:48):
Of these tight end fits that come out.

Speaker 7 (57:50):
I mean, Mason Taylor to to the jet. As much
as it pains me, it's a good one. You know
that Justin Fields is not gonna be able to get.

Speaker 4 (57:55):
To the ball. Can't help it.

Speaker 5 (57:58):
I just can't. I say this.

Speaker 7 (57:59):
Nick saban Won said that not getting Mason Taylor was
the biggest recruiting mistake he ever made, that that they
made really in that year.

Speaker 5 (58:05):
Yeah, in that year.

Speaker 4 (58:08):
All right, So yeah, we're looking at the Cardinals here,
So the Rams obviously taking first corner for the Cardinals. Yeah,
you think defense, right. It kind of feels like.

Speaker 7 (58:19):
Morrison would be Bill Johnson if you believe the knees
are okay, would be a fit.

Speaker 4 (58:24):
Will Johnson is still out there.

Speaker 7 (58:26):
They're also a team. I tell you that they're not
afraid to take character risks. Maybe a Mike Green in here.
I mean, they got plenty of edge rushers, but you know,
can you have too many?

Speaker 5 (58:33):
Well, Mike Green's a really good player.

Speaker 4 (58:38):
Oh yeah, but I'm still on that still out there,
that off field is Yeah, that's a tough week.

Speaker 5 (58:43):
Not once, but twice, one in high school and.

Speaker 7 (58:45):
One in college in his first college that he had
to transfer from.

Speaker 4 (58:48):
But I guess on one side of that, the other
side of that is to say, hey, the league doesn't
believe that that because he was very open about it
at the combine, like intentionally so when he was asked,
he was peppered with questions over and over again, He's like,
I'm not here to answer all of it. I'm here
to do all of it.

Speaker 5 (59:05):
And that's that's smart on his part.

Speaker 6 (59:06):
Absolutely, But I will say this, whichever organization drafts him,
I think has to come to the conclusion that we
are we're willing to fade whatever heat we get, because
there will be heat in terms of, hey, how could
you actually do this one hundred percent? So you you
you manage those expectations and you try to sort of

(59:29):
pit them against the potential of in this case, Mike.

Speaker 4 (59:35):
Green, that's it. So we talked about him as a
first round pick because it was a mid first round pick.
The talent is mid first round pick. But here you are,
you know, in the league, and maybe maybe some of
that stuff really does matter, right, I mean so many
years Dave where we talked about, well, Lee can sort
of look a blind eye if you can play right,
if you if you are a bona fide star, you

(59:57):
can play. Here we go, Will Johnson to Cardinals are
called corner. Will Johnson's live for Will Johnson ends there.

Speaker 5 (01:00:03):
They were eyeballing Corner in the first round.

Speaker 7 (01:00:05):
I was I was shocked that they didn't take Barron
after after he got past Miami.

Speaker 5 (01:00:09):
But they, you know, they went ahead and got what
who did the Cardinals take in the first verse?

Speaker 4 (01:00:13):
Nolan?

Speaker 5 (01:00:14):
I believe, Yeah, they went with Walter.

Speaker 7 (01:00:16):
Yeah, they needed one more defensive tackle there and it
uh you know, I mean they're in they're aware of
his off field. So yeah, so maybe that's part of
the reason why you don't go defensively, but you don't
pair him all with my green That's right, Yeah, decision there.
But you know, listen, Johnson was expected to be maybe
if not the top cornerback.

Speaker 5 (01:00:36):
Like a year ago.

Speaker 4 (01:00:37):
We were rewind this thing a year ago and Will
Johnson was was the consensus guy. Hey, national champion. Looked
looked the part he got hurt. And then you said,
the degenerative knee issue.

Speaker 7 (01:00:47):
I don't know that he's a three He might be
a two contract player. You hope he's a two contract
player that degenerate knee issues like that.

Speaker 4 (01:00:54):
I mean you never know.

Speaker 6 (01:00:55):
Yeah, before we uh, before we take a time out here,
where where are we? Because we have a lot of
c U fans that are texting and asking how about
shud or Sanders?

Speaker 5 (01:01:04):
Where do we think we are with him?

Speaker 9 (01:01:06):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:01:06):
Boy, Well, the Raiders are back there, A couple of
picks back here. I think they're now, they're now right behind,
They're right on the clock right now.

Speaker 7 (01:01:11):
You do have Seattle a couple of pictures that picks
later all they went out and did was get Darnold.
They're trying to trade Sam Howe. They brought through lock back.
That might be something you look at there. Do you
think shoulder fits in a Koobiac offense?

Speaker 4 (01:01:26):
Tough to know you got you got the Raiders, you
got the Bengals, you got the Seahawks and then Broncos.

Speaker 6 (01:01:31):
So we can listen in on the Rams making it
official that they are taking Terence Ferguson, Birk Responders and
in I'm military.

Speaker 20 (01:01:47):
Secondly, I want to send a huge sat out to
my son Michael.

Speaker 5 (01:01:50):
It's his birthday today. He's a draft baby. Let's go.

Speaker 11 (01:01:53):
Let's go.

Speaker 4 (01:01:55):
Birthday all right. Last, and let's get into this pig
with the forty six pig.

Speaker 5 (01:02:01):
In the twenty twenty.

Speaker 20 (01:02:02):
Five NFL Draft, the Los Angeles Rams select Terrence Ferguson
Titian Oregon University, Tarrence fergus and Kins sister.

Speaker 6 (01:02:14):
And again from Heritage High School right here in the
Denver metro area. Really good player, good athlete, has excellent size.
As you said, Ryan one of bo Nicks's favorite targets
a year ago, and he is now a member of
the LA Rams.

Speaker 4 (01:02:29):
He's Organ's all time leader among tight ends and receptions
with one hundred and thirty four and receiving touchdowns at sixteen.

Speaker 5 (01:02:35):
Just choose up ground when he runs.

Speaker 4 (01:02:37):
Yeah, he's he's the athletic and he's the fastest forty
at the combine for tight ends. What what did he
run for six?

Speaker 5 (01:02:42):
Three or six? Okay? But you again is I I mean,
he's not super elites.

Speaker 7 (01:02:47):
But it's bower speed before six speed for six NFL speed,
not some guy for six in high school. For six
NFL speed is something else for a kid his six
five to forty seven. Yeah, for six five two forty
seven is booking. So I think he's another nine plus
raz person for those who don't know the relative athletics score,
you know, size to speed combination.

Speaker 4 (01:03:05):
It's nice that Dave's letting you get away with some
advanced analytics side.

Speaker 5 (01:03:08):
You know, you made him explain him. You got to
sell it.

Speaker 4 (01:03:11):
You gotta sell it to him. You gotta tell them
what it is. You can't just come out here. I'm
an analytics the EPA woar two fifty, you know, and
now explain what this stuff is.

Speaker 6 (01:03:18):
You know, it's exactly right by the way, we're going
to stay here before the break and see exactly what
the Raiders do.

Speaker 5 (01:03:25):
They are on the clock right now.

Speaker 6 (01:03:27):
There is some thought that maybe the Raiders take the
cu quarterback, should do or Sanders with this pick, which
would be pick what is this forty seven?

Speaker 4 (01:03:36):
Forty seven?

Speaker 6 (01:03:37):
Yeah, this Rocos have picked fifty one.

Speaker 5 (01:03:39):
By the way, oh sorry, forty eight for forty eight.

Speaker 6 (01:03:41):
Now, that's right because the Cardinals forty seven, so or
forty eight with the Raiders. So we'll wait, We'll wait momentary.

Speaker 4 (01:03:48):
The Texans are now in the clock at forty eight.
They just traded back up. Okay, so in lieu of
that move, let's do this. We'll take a very short
time out. You're listening to our Broncos NFL Draft coverage
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number three, so we'll be we'll be with you until
the conclusion of around number three. Shoulder Sanders still has

(01:04:47):
yet to be drafted. There is a chance, Ben, we've
been talking about this that the Seattle Seahawks, which have
to pick it right in front of the Broncos. Seahawks
picket fifty, the Broncos picket fifty on and do you
think maybe the Seahawks take a shot at Shoulder at
that point.

Speaker 7 (01:05:04):
Yeah, I'm just looking at spots that are available to land.
I mean, when you've got Sam Darnold and Drew Locke
and they're in the room, I don't think despite what
Sam did last year and he had a good year
from Minnesota, I'm not sure that he's a long term
answer there for Seattle.

Speaker 5 (01:05:16):
Why not throw a shitt or Sanders in there.

Speaker 7 (01:05:17):
Meanwhile, the Raiders, by the way, have traded back, have
picked sixty eight ninety eight ninety nine. The Raiders might
be the team if it just keeps slide. They might
just you know, eventually catch that slide and have stockpiled
a bunch of picks to getting.

Speaker 5 (01:05:27):
But when, but when, since.

Speaker 6 (01:05:29):
They traded back, when would that be sixty eight, it
would be picked be the third round.

Speaker 4 (01:05:33):
Yeah, he'd be beyond into the third round. You have
three picks in the third round, so Texans are taking
ursery here offensive Lineman. So yeah, you got two picks here.
You got the Bengals, you got the Seahawks, and that's Uh.
I think it's a pretty good spot for the Broncos.
I mean, whatever they did do, I mean, I think.

Speaker 5 (01:05:50):
I am picking for the Broncos.

Speaker 4 (01:05:52):
All right, here we go.

Speaker 6 (01:05:53):
No I am saying I'm not actually picking for them.
You send your text in yeah, yeah, hey, Sean was Uh,
I'm gonna say a ten or.

Speaker 4 (01:06:06):
Dylan Sampson.

Speaker 6 (01:06:07):
Dylan Sampson from Tennessee.

Speaker 5 (01:06:10):
Okay, I like the like Samson pick.

Speaker 7 (01:06:13):
I thought it might be a little early for it
Tienne at this point, but I'm not opposed to him.
Might be watching him play, and he certainly might wind
up having a better career.

Speaker 5 (01:06:20):
Than his brother.

Speaker 7 (01:06:21):
I do to his point, his brother, I think it's
more of a situational guy. Got a little overdrafted. You know,
there's some other guys that I like.

Speaker 11 (01:06:27):
R J.

Speaker 7 (01:06:27):
Harvey a lot out of Central Florida. I don't know
if you guys had a chance to watch him. He
was the focal point of there. They had kJ Jefferson
who could barely throw the football. Uh, and they in
in in that Malason offense. Uh, you know they they
Harvey made stuff go and when the bus went down,
that was not so great.

Speaker 4 (01:06:43):
I was going to say, he says.

Speaker 5 (01:06:45):
Like, wait a minute, the Central Florida back didn't do much. Yeah,
that was the that was his worst game.

Speaker 7 (01:06:51):
But he's uh, you know, I mean they had a
quarterback just not you know, kJ transferred out of Arkansas
because he couldn't throw like.

Speaker 4 (01:07:00):
Johnson at Iowa because a lot of you know I do. Okay, yeah,
powerful back. Yeah, twenty one rushing touchdowns this year, over
fifteen hundred rushing yards.

Speaker 6 (01:07:08):
Again, I think it depends stylistically, Samson would not be
as big h that is correct.

Speaker 5 (01:07:18):
They have similar.

Speaker 4 (01:07:20):
sALS is five to eight small small ball.

Speaker 6 (01:07:24):
I just couldn't believe how many tackles he broke at Tennessee. Yes, now, again,
when Chris Jones gets on you, it's a little different
in the When a backer sturs you up more times
than not, that's the end of the that's the end
of the run. But I like Sampson's game very much,
and and I think t is going to be a

(01:07:44):
good pro as well.

Speaker 4 (01:07:46):
Okay, so hold on, I'll take to see if I
got Demetrius Knight. He's going to the Bengals. Here, they're
going to be dragged. Does make forever all defensive?

Speaker 19 (01:07:59):
Bye?

Speaker 5 (01:07:59):
So the so they go.

Speaker 4 (01:08:00):
The Seahawks are on the clock, and they don't.

Speaker 6 (01:08:04):
Take a fire and quarterback, which honestly I don't think
they will Ben What what do they look here?

Speaker 7 (01:08:11):
Well, you still need uh, I believe you still need
a receiver opposite Smith and Jigba. You let go of
DK Metcalf. You know Tyler Lockett's going now, he's with
the Titans. Metcalf, you traded over to the Steelers. You
need a receiver over there.

Speaker 5 (01:08:24):
I haven't really had a run on those yet.

Speaker 4 (01:08:25):
Yeah, you have it.

Speaker 7 (01:08:26):
I thought you would at this point, so I want
a little off on that. I would suggest the other
Iowa State receiver you've got, Trey Harris, is out there.
You've got Trey Harris. You've got a couple of guys.
I really like Stevie on Williams, who I think you
go a little later from TCU has got size and speed.
I think this would be a size speed pick. Uh,
you got the kid from Tennessee and DeAndre Thornton might
go a little bit later, but he's huge.

Speaker 5 (01:08:45):
And has has some wheels.

Speaker 7 (01:08:47):
So there's there's a couple of guys there. Kyle Williams
might be somebody that you you look at in this
particular situation, maybe doesn't fit that exact archetype, but is
a guy that I think they're obviously familiar with up
there in the Seattle area.

Speaker 4 (01:09:00):
I mean, I like a lot of those guys. Like
you know, we said we really thought there might be
a run at wide receiver. This has not happened yet.
In fact, I want to say Higgins and Burden are
the only wide receivers that have come off the board
so far, and we really haven't had a run on
running backs other than Judkins and Traveon Henderson either.

Speaker 5 (01:09:20):
So I mean, pretty good spot for the Broncos.

Speaker 4 (01:09:22):
A couple of tight ends to come off the board
so that they other the pick of an offensive playmaker
here if that's the direction they go. Of course, Broncos
fans are really hoping for that if they decided to
go defensive line here, right, If they go, they go
away from that, Dave. I think I think there's gonna
be some interesting reaction from Broncos fans if they go
defense again.

Speaker 5 (01:09:41):
Yeah, I mean it certainly.

Speaker 6 (01:09:45):
You know it does because they have been so tight
lipped about this thing. It does sort of jog my
memory when Sean Payton talked about the running back room. Yes,
so I still think you need running back. But he
might not. Maybe maybe he doesn't. Maybe he likes some
of the young potential in that room. Maybe he likes

(01:10:09):
Oudric Estimate more than you know. Maybe we thought we'll see.
I still think it's a running back here coming up
in a short period.

Speaker 4 (01:10:19):
Of Seattle's pick is in. The Broncos are on the clock.

Speaker 7 (01:10:22):
Here we go, So you, Seattle, I mean to me,
the needs are receiver corner, anything else there.

Speaker 5 (01:10:28):
Is, Well, Broncos are trading back.

Speaker 4 (01:10:30):
Broncos are trading back from fifty one yep or they
where did they move to? Don't know yet. Mike Chliss
just sent that out said Broncos are trading back for
number fifty one. So we wait.

Speaker 5 (01:10:45):
Honestly, you know, don't listen.

Speaker 4 (01:10:46):
If this is a spot to do it, it's not
a bad spot to do it. I mean, really, we
talked about all sorts of different options you have here
fifty one, we've.

Speaker 5 (01:10:54):
Traded back back they go.

Speaker 6 (01:10:57):
But so again, you know what, maybe maybe it speaks
and we've talked about this, and who knows, maybe we're
right the depth of the running back position. Maybe maybe
they feel like with the teams, maybe they moved back yep,
you know, ten spots and they feel like I can
still get one of those three running backs that they
still like.

Speaker 4 (01:11:18):
That's what it feels like, right, I mean, because that's
the spot. And honestly, we talked about it even earlier
today that the Broncos had an offer from the Giants
had picked twenty and if it weren't for Barons sitting
right there, who they viewed as a top ten player,
they might have. They might it's the Panthers, by the way,
trading up here, so it would have been interesting to see.

(01:11:38):
They might have traded back a couple of times, now, right,
I mean, and of course they also might have put
themselves our position.

Speaker 5 (01:11:43):
How far did the Broncos moved back?

Speaker 4 (01:11:46):
Still waiting to see, but I can tell you what Carolina.
Carolina was at fifty seven.

Speaker 5 (01:11:50):
So they trade back six spots.

Speaker 4 (01:11:52):
Ye, trade back six spots.

Speaker 6 (01:11:53):
I'm guessing that theory is right. The Broncos feel like
they've got two, maybe three running backs that they they
like and could live with at that spot, and one
of them is gonna be there fifty seven, even if
one or two get picked between fifty one and fifty seven,
and depending on how much draft capital they picked up

(01:12:14):
in the move with Carolina, it makes sense in terms
of replenishing the roster.

Speaker 4 (01:12:20):
Alright, I'm trying to I'm trying. I'm getting I have
the numbers. Okay, So for Broncos received pick fifty seven,
seventy four and one eleven nice and U two thirty
from Carolina. Carolina gives up fifty one, eighty five, one
twenty two too oh eight, So the Broncos move fifty
one and eighty five, one twenty two and two oh
eight two Uh to Carolina. Broncos receive fifty seven, seventy.

Speaker 6 (01:12:42):
Four, one eleven and two thirty, So they move up
eleven spots in the third.

Speaker 4 (01:12:52):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:12:52):
Yeah, they right, right, yep, to move back six spots
in the second.

Speaker 4 (01:12:58):
Right, That's that's right. So, yeah, they get they're gonna
receive fifty seven seventy four, one to eleven.

Speaker 6 (01:13:06):
Down one eleven not be tonight, No, that'll be tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (01:13:10):
Thirty or tomorrow. So so yeah, and they moved so
they moved from one twenty two. So yeah, they move
out twenty two spots in the fourth round. Yep, they
eleven spots in the third.

Speaker 7 (01:13:17):
And eleven spots in the third to move back a
few in the seventh, and they gain a seventh round
er out of it.

Speaker 6 (01:13:23):
So speaks again to the exactly what what both Sean
Payton and George Payton said, the depth of the drafts
and how after twenty a lot of these players were
bunched together all the way down to one hundred.

Speaker 4 (01:13:36):
Seahawks, by the way, took a Royo, the tight end
out of Miami. Yeah, so they took Elijah Royo there
right before the Broncos were supposed to pick there at
fifty one. So the Broncos are now at fifty seven. Okay,
a lot of good players still on the board. I
see Broncos fans melting down on Twitter right now, But

(01:13:57):
that I mean, this is this is what it's about.
So you moved up, you moved up on on your
third round pick from eighty five to seventy four, so
that that's a nice spot to be in.

Speaker 6 (01:14:06):
And he moved up in the fourth round and moved
in the fourth.

Speaker 4 (01:14:08):
Round, and then you, uh, you gave him your sixth
to oh eight.

Speaker 5 (01:14:14):
You got an additional fourth round or two, right.

Speaker 4 (01:14:16):
No, not an additional You just moved up. Okay, yeah,
from one two to one eleven. And then you choose,
you gave them your sixth too oh eight, and you
got a seventh two thirty.

Speaker 6 (01:14:25):
Okay, let's head back to the podium and here.

Speaker 5 (01:14:33):
What Seattle may be doing. NFL Draft.

Speaker 10 (01:14:35):
The Seattle Seahawks select Elijah Arroyo, tight end Miami.

Speaker 4 (01:14:45):
Well, we love Elijah Royo. I mean he's a move
tight end boy. He looked he was a lot of
fun to watch out there at the Senior Bowl. Yeah,
that's where he really sort of shines.

Speaker 6 (01:14:56):
Very athletic, he is a guy. He's a good athlete
and catch the ball. He will absolutely not be used
in line. He's as close to and I say this respectfully,
he's as close to Julius Thomas as an inline blocker
as I've seen recently.

Speaker 4 (01:15:17):
I think that's perfectly.

Speaker 5 (01:15:17):
That is such a great he doesn't like it.

Speaker 4 (01:15:23):
When does a sharp save block, couldn't block the sun
out of his eyes?

Speaker 6 (01:15:25):
Yeah, but he but he on Twitter, I'll tell you what.
He's an athlete. He can run.

Speaker 7 (01:15:30):
Yeah, yeah, he makes He makes Evan Ingram look like
Robert green Cowski, who, by the way, we stay camping
out at the doorway waiting on him to show up.

Speaker 5 (01:15:37):
Or yeah, well I don't know about that. It's getting
any shots in now.

Speaker 4 (01:15:40):
Yeah. The Panthers, they were so excited to trade up
to fifty one to take Nick's skirtin. Okay, I'm meant
to tell you more about him in a second, because
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:15:53):
I don't know a lot about him either.

Speaker 4 (01:15:55):
Yeah, so Nick scurtin out of it. He was the
only Yeah, defensive end, that's right, schmarts Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
this should be a second there, Except he was the
other side of Shamar Stewart, and I like Shamar a lot.
Like again, I know the Bronx probably aren't going defensive
line here at fifty seven, but I liked Ramar a lot.

Speaker 13 (01:16:13):
It was my soul though.

Speaker 4 (01:16:15):
Really, Okay, you're just a Chamar.

Speaker 7 (01:16:18):
Guy that he's draft. He's a physical specimen. Yeah, and
maybe somebody can coach him to be a football player.

Speaker 4 (01:16:24):
Yeah, not a Chamark guy watching him rush and then
just get you had one move and if that didn't work,
it was just lost. All right. The Titans are now
in the clock at fifty two.

Speaker 5 (01:16:31):
Titans around the clock.

Speaker 6 (01:16:32):
Let's head back to the podium in Green Bay and
here with the Carolina Panthers officially announce I say.

Speaker 14 (01:16:38):
The fifty first pick to the Carolina Panthers. With the
fifty first pick in the twenty twenty five NFL Draft,
the Carolina Panthers elect Nick Gorton, DN Texas A and M.

Speaker 22 (01:16:50):
Nick Scourton Edge Texas say of that six foot three,
two hundred and fifty seven pounds.

Speaker 1 (01:16:58):
Donko is aggressive.

Speaker 4 (01:16:59):
Now they rushed four and they.

Speaker 23 (01:17:01):
Still get him.

Speaker 4 (01:17:02):
They closed the bucket down pick Strton.

Speaker 22 (01:17:06):
Scourton posted a ten sax season in twenty twenty three
before transferring to Texas A and M, where he earned
first team All SEC and led the Aggies with five
sacks and fourteen tackles for loss. His threat as a
pass rusher commanded double teams and ships from opposing squads,
He can create havoc as a three down defender, and
wins inside with quick spin moves. In Eurostats, scouts compare

(01:17:29):
him to Bengals defensive end Trey Hendrickson.

Speaker 6 (01:17:35):
Is he Is he a Trey Hendrickson kind of guy? Oh,
I know, I don't know that.

Speaker 5 (01:17:39):
There must be interesting little tag there at the end.

Speaker 7 (01:17:41):
I'm like, no, they don't. That was yeah, fascinating. I mean,
I think he's a good planning Scords is a good player.
I liked him better than his teammate. But you know,
and I would not compare to Trey Hendrickson.

Speaker 4 (01:17:53):
That's not The Titans are taking an edge as well.
Olu Oladejo out of UCLA. He's going here to Tennessee Titans.
So we're seeing some a little bit of a run
on edge and defensive ends. If stars. The Broncos trade goes,
they moved up in the third. They moved back six
spots in the second or second, eleven in the third
and fourth. They move up in the third and fourth

(01:18:13):
and then moved back. They move up in the fourth
more than eleven.

Speaker 7 (01:18:16):
Right, yeah, one twenty two to one eleven, Yeah, moved
up eleven spots be fourth and then the then they trade.
They dropped a sixth rounder and added a seventh.

Speaker 4 (01:18:23):
Uh in that scenario, so they went to eight to
two thirty thirties. Yeah, yep so, but they had three
sixth rounders, so we knew they probably end up moving.
I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna go out here and
I'm gonna I'm gonna call a shot here real quick.

Speaker 13 (01:18:36):
Here.

Speaker 5 (01:18:36):
We got that two thirty pick on on day three, keep.

Speaker 7 (01:18:39):
It eye Nash Jones, the offensive lineman out of Texas State,
the guard out of Texas State. Keep an eye on
that one. That that may be one like, we don't
want him to get to udf A. So we got
the late picked the.

Speaker 5 (01:18:47):
Gag to the podium.

Speaker 4 (01:18:49):
Save that.

Speaker 11 (01:18:51):
The Tennessee Titans select Oliver fimi Ola day Joe out.

Speaker 4 (01:18:58):
Of u c l A A rush.

Speaker 24 (01:19:00):
Sure there we go.

Speaker 25 (01:19:02):
Okay, watch the guy's murder the bron I tell where
there's a slight pause, they read it in themselves and say,
oh damn tell, it's like me.

Speaker 4 (01:19:13):
Anytime I'm looking at a hockey players.

Speaker 5 (01:19:14):
It couldn't be Sam Smith.

Speaker 7 (01:19:16):
There's thirteen consonants of this name and no vowels.

Speaker 4 (01:19:20):
Are you sure he's not a hockey player? Yeah, that's
why I went, olu, oh my goodness. Yeah, okay, well
there you go. So now where are we at to pick?
Where it picks fifty three with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
You don't think this will.

Speaker 5 (01:19:33):
Be a quarterback.

Speaker 4 (01:19:34):
Green Bay doesn't feel like a quarterback, the Chargers doesn't
feel like a quarterback, the Bears doesn't.

Speaker 6 (01:19:38):
So let's let's look it from right now to well
the Broncos pick, which is fifty seven. Correct, no quarterback
taking We're no quarterback? But how many teams looking for
running backs in your mind?

Speaker 4 (01:19:51):
Definitely not Tampa Bay because Bucky's great, Not Green Banks
they have Jacobs. Nope, Chargers for sure. Not the Bears.

Speaker 5 (01:20:00):
Just didn't they just add.

Speaker 4 (01:20:02):
Yeah because they took uh no, they didn't add a
running back because they took Littherburnon and they traded out
hands sniped.

Speaker 7 (01:20:10):
Okay, that's one that's right in front of them, and
that's it.

Speaker 4 (01:20:12):
That's it.

Speaker 5 (01:20:12):
So that's it. That's the only one taking a running
No teams that needed a running back and move back
at picks.

Speaker 6 (01:20:17):
What my speculation was, I think that that's probably a
pretty sound move because you bounce up in rounds three
and four.

Speaker 5 (01:20:26):
Correct with that move and it really didn't cost anything.

Speaker 4 (01:20:28):
No, it really didn't. And especially if you view it
and as we said here, no running backs have come
off the board. And if they think the only team
they have to maybe hurdle there is the Bears.

Speaker 6 (01:20:37):
And let's just say they like two running backs and
they'd be happy with either one exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:20:41):
So you move up to the you move them in
the third, you move them in the fourth for an
opportunity to take those I know, I'm I'm, I'm here
for it. So yeah, I don't know, man, it'd be
interesting if it is Caleb Johnson, just for argument's sake,
because he's a bigger back.

Speaker 5 (01:20:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:20:57):
And what did Caleb Johnson run during his pro day?

Speaker 4 (01:21:01):
Let me tell you. Hold on, say, I don't remember
it was fours. I thought it was four or five issues.

Speaker 5 (01:21:07):
Yeah, laid four.

Speaker 4 (01:21:08):
Well, yeah, the pro day would have been you know,
the thirty five yard dash they run at the pro day. Yeah,
they do fudge.

Speaker 7 (01:21:16):
It was so bad with the Colorado thing, right, I'm
standing there at the Colorado program, standing there at the
at the time and listening to the you know, the
people that are putting stuff out, you know, on their
agents that are standing right there and they'll have one time,
but then the official time is half a second later. Dicky,
he ran a four to five seven of the console
thought okay, yeah, but the Pro Day was was a
better number.

Speaker 4 (01:21:34):
He didn't know.

Speaker 5 (01:21:35):
He didn't run run day okay as a DMP.

Speaker 6 (01:21:37):
So uh what So he's he's a two hundred, and
he's like, well.

Speaker 4 (01:21:44):
So again, combine way to twenty four Pro Day two
thirty four. Yeah, he put the weight back on.

Speaker 7 (01:21:49):
He dropped the weight to run at the combine and
then he put the weight back on.

Speaker 4 (01:21:52):
He's a two thirty. He's a normally two thirty guy. Yeah,
but he I mean he's a bruiser man. Two hundred
and forty carries for fifty over, fifteen hundred yards, six
point four per carry, twenty one rushing touchdown.

Speaker 6 (01:22:02):
So I think this, I think it's going to be
a running back at fifty seven. I think if it's him,
then odric estimate is probably in danger. I think it
depends on what they think of audric Estimate, because if
they think like this kid, you know, I know he
fumbled the ball a little bit here, but we like him,

(01:22:24):
we think he's got potential, then I think they go
with with with estimate or with the kid from Tennessee.

Speaker 4 (01:22:30):
Benjamin Morrison's slide finally comes to an end. He's a
guy you and I talked about.

Speaker 5 (01:22:34):
Ben. We're a big fan of his. Yeah, he just
went to the Buccaneers. Okay, that's a good pick for them.
It's a good, good corner out of Notre Dame. Yep,
we like him.

Speaker 4 (01:22:41):
I like him a lot.

Speaker 5 (01:22:42):
That was a good pick. Okay, there you go, so
we said it.

Speaker 4 (01:22:45):
I mean nothing you're gonna worry about here for what
the Broncos are probably pursuing.

Speaker 5 (01:22:50):
So now to catch up.

Speaker 4 (01:22:52):
So Benjamin Warrison is going to go fifty three out
of Notre Dame and then fifty four be the Packers
charges fifty five and then the Bears at fifty six.

Speaker 7 (01:23:01):
At the end of the day, the Broncos moved up
twice in the meat of the draft and out did
the point value chart by a six round pick.

Speaker 4 (01:23:08):
So in terms of actually wonder about that, in terms
of the math that you know, they came out ahead
from two different ways on that trade. Very nice.

Speaker 5 (01:23:15):
Hopefully they come out there go.

Speaker 4 (01:23:16):
George, you know well, and then hopefully they'll say he's
out smart himself on Twitter. Yeah, would say, hopefully the
Broncos fans that are listening are are going to feel
better about about that. They're they're still melting down about
missing out on well everything.

Speaker 6 (01:23:31):
Well, I mean fans, and I think Bronco fans are
are great, But fans generally speaking look at skill position
players because they see them, and it's pointed out on
TV broadcast, radio broadcasts. Guys that throw it, guys that
catch it, guys that take it in a handoff and
do something with it. They're more familiar with with those guys.

(01:23:54):
So when these high profile skill air quote position guys
are available, well, yeah, I mean that that has been
sort of a yearly kind of thing for forever in
the National Football League.

Speaker 5 (01:24:07):
So I get that. Oh mean I understand it too.

Speaker 4 (01:24:10):
I guess there's a little bit for me of let's
let's see this thing play out.

Speaker 5 (01:24:16):
Let's see what the draft class looks like like.

Speaker 4 (01:24:18):
Sick, taking an elite cornerback in the first round doesn't
mean you're gonna miss out on everything else you want
in the draft at all.

Speaker 6 (01:24:26):
By So to the podium again, Tampa Bay now officially
making their pick in.

Speaker 26 (01:24:30):
The NFL twenty twenty five draft the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

Speaker 1 (01:24:36):
So let Benjamin Morrison, dB, Notre Dame.

Speaker 22 (01:24:42):
Benjamin Morrison, quarterback Notre Dame. Six ninety three pounds.

Speaker 27 (01:24:49):
Hung of the lag, he looks, throws to the right side,
intercepted at the.

Speaker 28 (01:24:52):
Pot, he will score touchdown. Benjamin Morrison ninety five yards out.

Speaker 22 (01:24:59):
Benjamin Morrison had a hot start to his college career,
making the Freshman All American Team after finishing the season
third in the nation and interceptions. However, a hit injury
kept him out of the final ten games of twenty
twenty four. Morrison excels at covering deep rowts, but has
holes in other areas of coverage ability, bringing some uncertainty
to his NFL projections.

Speaker 7 (01:25:24):
A couple of anecdotes here not related to ben Morrison,
but I will say this, Trayvon Henderson never met with
the New England Patriots in the run up to this draft.
Only had a zoom call with the running backs coach
one time and that was literally it. And then Mason Taylor,
who just went to the New York Jets his father
played in the last playoff game the Jets were in
just a little bit.

Speaker 5 (01:25:43):
Of Dolphins st Jets.

Speaker 4 (01:25:45):
Jason twa.

Speaker 5 (01:25:46):
Yeah, so he was.

Speaker 7 (01:25:47):
Jason Tae was in the last playoff game the.

Speaker 5 (01:25:49):
Jets were in.

Speaker 4 (01:25:50):
By the way, as Ayboy checked in on Jalen Milroe
in the green room, because he's still hanging as far
as I understand it is, he really, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:25:56):
Still hanging in the new he went last night.

Speaker 4 (01:25:58):
Yeah, I mean I think he might be pretty close
to the last guy that's still.

Speaker 7 (01:26:03):
He says a lot about the last time the Jets
were in a playoff game, right, the ANFTY championship game.
Last time the Jets were a playoff game. Jason Taylor's
playing now. His son just got drafted by So that
would have been Jason Taylor been like twenty thirteen. Right
when was the Jets the NAMCY championship.

Speaker 5 (01:26:17):
Packers doing for eleven.

Speaker 4 (01:26:18):
I'd have to go back.

Speaker 5 (01:26:20):
It's been a while.

Speaker 4 (01:26:20):
Yeah, I don't have the Packers pick ye brain mass.

Speaker 6 (01:26:24):
I think, well, the Jets were no, no, no, the Jets were.
That's right, Jets played the Broncos. But that was ninety eight. Yeah,
it's been a while.

Speaker 7 (01:26:32):
Twenty eleven ANFCY Championship, the last playoff game and Jets
head it's been fourteen years.

Speaker 4 (01:26:38):
Here's what the packer's doing here.

Speaker 6 (01:26:40):
We got the We got the Packers up right now
and again this will be pick number fifty four. The
Broncos have picked number fifty seven in the second round.

Speaker 5 (01:26:48):
Here's the Commissioner.

Speaker 4 (01:26:50):
I had some.

Speaker 29 (01:26:51):
Special guests up here to help make the Green Bay
Packers choice.

Speaker 4 (01:26:55):
So give it up for Packers. Wedding Jordy Nelson.

Speaker 1 (01:27:03):
What's up, packer contrary?

Speaker 12 (01:27:10):
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help me announce the pit.

Speaker 26 (01:27:38):
Here with the fifty fourth taking the twenty twenty five
NFL Draft, the Green Bay.

Speaker 12 (01:27:48):
Packers select Anthony Belton tackle North Carolina State.

Speaker 4 (01:27:53):
Go Packers. Anthony Belton is sixty six three and thirty
six pounds and yeah, just a giant human being on
NC State. So now you got the Chargers on the clock,
the Bears and the Broncos.

Speaker 6 (01:28:08):
So what do we think here fellas Chargers officially on
the clock. What what might Jim Harribad be looking to
at this point?

Speaker 5 (01:28:15):
He likes the big boys.

Speaker 7 (01:28:16):
I think we're along the trenches here somewhere personally, you know,
we'll see. Obviously they got the running back on a
Mario and Hampton in the first round.

Speaker 5 (01:28:23):
Maybe a receiver here.

Speaker 7 (01:28:24):
This could be a time when you when you see
a receiver, you go back to him. The early draft
picks at receiver that they had when he was with
the Niners would have been a J.

Speaker 5 (01:28:31):
Jenkins.

Speaker 7 (01:28:32):
That one didn't pan out that well, but they drafted
a J. Jenkins early when he was with the Niners.

Speaker 6 (01:28:37):
Did they did he draft Crabtree? I'm trying to remember
crab Tree. I know Crabtree played.

Speaker 5 (01:28:43):
For He did Jim Harbot's drafted by the Raiders or
the Niners? I think he was drafted by the Niners.
Draft of the Niners went to the Raiders.

Speaker 6 (01:28:49):
Yeah, yeah, but then.

Speaker 4 (01:28:51):
Yeah, I mean, I mean you could go tight end
here because there were some rumors that they that he
being untied end in the first round. They obviously went
running back. There was omarian So Gunner Helm theoretically could
go here tight ends that he liked though. I mean
they drafted Vernon Davis, you know, yeah, you know a athlete.

Speaker 7 (01:29:08):
Yeah, they want that hyper athlete tight end. You know,
they can play in line as well though, because.

Speaker 4 (01:29:13):
They love years.

Speaker 6 (01:29:14):
Just now for George Kittles, he's getting he's holding out
right now too.

Speaker 9 (01:29:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:29:18):
Contract and then you got Brock party. They gotta get
that deal done. I'm told that's way closer than it was.
So we'll see. Really interested to see here.

Speaker 4 (01:29:27):
What to I mean again, we have to really avoid
what's gonna happen with the uh with the Bears pick.
That's the one that we really are circling here as
far as I'll tell you what we want, are going
to go Trey Harris.

Speaker 5 (01:29:42):
Yeah, good player for sure.

Speaker 6 (01:29:43):
So the Chargers take Trey Harris and the Broncos are
right around the corner here in round number two. We'll
take a time out. You're listening to the Broncos NFL
Draft coverage on the KOA Broncos Radio network.

Speaker 3 (01:29:57):
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Speaker 6 (01:30:16):
We're back at Broncos Park, towered by Common Spirit covering
the twenty twenty five NFL Draft Dave Logan, Ryan Edwards
along with NFL insider Benjamin Albright. Broncos have traded back
yet again. Second time they've traded back in the second round.
So Ryan, why don't you recap exactly where they are
and what they've acquired in these two moves.

Speaker 4 (01:30:37):
Okay, So they just traded back to sixty, so they
were a fifty seven. They traded back with the Lions
down three spots, down three spots, and they ended up
sending fifty seven and two thirty the seventh rounder they
just acquired, and they ended up getting in the process
sixty and they got a fourth rounder out of it,
pick one thirty, so.

Speaker 6 (01:30:56):
They in essence got a fourth rounder at it moving
back three spots.

Speaker 4 (01:31:00):
They moved back three spots to move up one hundred
spots later on.

Speaker 5 (01:31:04):
That is incredible value.

Speaker 7 (01:31:05):
Like on the points value chart, that is a that's
a ripoff.

Speaker 4 (01:31:10):
I'm i'm and and.

Speaker 6 (01:31:11):
We were looking at the teams that possibly could be
looking at running backs in between where the Broncos traded
from and where they wind up now at sixty and
the only team we can think of the Bears, would
be the No, it wasn't the Bears.

Speaker 7 (01:31:25):
Bears taking offensive line, took off theylated it right in
front of the Commanders. Who might be in the running
back market.

Speaker 6 (01:31:30):
What about the the Ravens? And then who are in
front of the Ravens.

Speaker 5 (01:31:34):
For the Ravens, nobody. It's the Raiders and the Ravens.
Raiders and Ravens. Okay, that's what's left.

Speaker 6 (01:31:38):
So it looks like the Raiders won't They took Ashton
Jenny in the first round, right?

Speaker 5 (01:31:42):
What about the Ravens.

Speaker 4 (01:31:45):
I don't think they need a running down Derek, No,
Henry and what's his kid?

Speaker 5 (01:31:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:31:49):
They smaller back the guy that they got there, who's
a hill, yeah Justice, Yeah, Yeah, they.

Speaker 5 (01:31:57):
Don't need a running back, but the Commanders do.

Speaker 7 (01:31:59):
And that's who you lay right in front of, moving
back three spots and getting all that. So this might
have been a bit of a well draft alchemy there.

Speaker 4 (01:32:05):
From from George Payton s d lead picking the seventh
round into a gold picking the.

Speaker 6 (01:32:09):
Fourth, I said, back to the podium here in Green Bay,
I know y'all.

Speaker 28 (01:32:14):
Mad because CHEFFI and Ship's golf looks.

Speaker 23 (01:32:19):
Good on the blue and all.

Speaker 9 (01:32:26):
But now says this Green Bay.

Speaker 4 (01:32:29):
Here's s show.

Speaker 13 (01:32:31):
On the lambeau Field. And I love lambeau Field.

Speaker 21 (01:32:39):
Because the King of.

Speaker 28 (01:32:42):
The North, the best cornback in the years, the North
Cap Williams. He's on the field and lambeau Field. And
in case familiar with my game, let me remind you

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I am a visionary. I am a revolutionary. I am
set freaking runs, and.

Speaker 21 (01:33:15):
I am here to tell you.

Speaker 28 (01:33:17):
That with the fifty sixth pick in the twenty twenty
five NFL Draft, the greatest franchise in the NFL. Listen
cod O Theirs select Ozzie Trepello tackle from boxing dimes,

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Lit's burn.

Speaker 6 (01:33:41):
There's a little bit of WWE flipper going on right now.

Speaker 5 (01:33:47):
What you're gonna do.

Speaker 9 (01:33:50):
Show?

Speaker 4 (01:33:51):
I love that kind of turned a heel there on
a most right Raiders taking wide receiver Jack Bet.

Speaker 5 (01:33:57):
That's interesting.

Speaker 7 (01:33:58):
I had him peg to the the Rams. That is
that is certainly interested the Broncos.

Speaker 5 (01:34:04):
We got the Ravens and the Broncos. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:34:06):
Jack tragically lost his brother down in that attack down
there in New Orleans, and he has been a guy
who's been impressive, to say the least in interviews with
with teams.

Speaker 5 (01:34:15):
I thought he's gonna wind up with the Rams. Goes
to the Raiders. A talented wide receiver at of TCU.

Speaker 4 (01:34:20):
I think he was one of the players of the game,
if I want to say, for the Senior Bowl.

Speaker 5 (01:34:24):
Oh yeah, he was showing out down there.

Speaker 4 (01:34:26):
Yeah, he scored the game winner, scored the game winner
down there. And yeah he's been he's been just he
just only has improved his stock during this pre draft process.

Speaker 5 (01:34:35):
Okay, so the Ravens are the team.

Speaker 4 (01:34:38):
Of the clock now and right front of the Broncos
that is fifty nine.

Speaker 6 (01:34:43):
So Ben and Bryan, what do we think the Ravens
would be looking for here?

Speaker 5 (01:34:49):
Well, what have they taken so far?

Speaker 7 (01:34:51):
Now, you went and got the safety early. I don't
believe they've had another pick.

Speaker 9 (01:34:57):
They haven't.

Speaker 4 (01:34:57):
So they got Malachi Starks. It's gonna be a good
player either way, because that's what the Ravens do. You
know it could be And you could go receiver here.
They could always use more receiver. Receiver help for Lamar Jackson. Yeah,
because we haven't really seen them. And you got Jalen
Knowle just talk about.

Speaker 5 (01:35:13):
Them doing something with Mark Andrews.

Speaker 4 (01:35:16):
Tied end here.

Speaker 7 (01:35:17):
It doesn't seem likely, Isaiah likely, No pun intended there,
I don't.

Speaker 5 (01:35:21):
I don't know, offensive lineman.

Speaker 7 (01:35:23):
Maybe you know that might be something that you look
at there they do some defensive line defections. Those guys
have gotten older on that D line. Maybe they see
a body in there.

Speaker 5 (01:35:31):
They're like. Back to the.

Speaker 6 (01:35:35):
Podium, Roger Goodell addresses the Green Bay crowd.

Speaker 29 (01:35:38):
Well announced the selection of the Detroit Lions second round
pick as a proud soldier, Christopher Duboy Iraq, where he
was tragically killed in an ied explosion.

Speaker 8 (01:35:50):
In July two thousand and seven.

Speaker 12 (01:35:52):
At age eighteen.

Speaker 29 (01:35:55):
Especialist Koobie service was marked by numerous awards and decorations,
they including the Bronze Star Medal and the Purple Heart.
Christopher grew up in Michigan who was a lifelong fan
of Alliance, passionately cheering his home.

Speaker 8 (01:36:11):
Team whenever he could.

Speaker 4 (01:36:14):
We honor him and thank his family and.

Speaker 29 (01:36:16):
TAPS the Tragedy Assistance Program for Survivors, which offers care
to those grieving the loss of a military loved one.
And now I'm going to turn it over to us
John and David, who announced in honor of their brother
and son.

Speaker 30 (01:36:36):
Then'll give it care, thank you, thank you so much,

(01:37:01):
and here we go. The Denver Broncos have traded the
fifty seventh pick to the Detroit Lions. With the fifty
seventh pick in the twenty twenty five NFL Draft, the
Detroit Lions select Tate.

Speaker 4 (01:37:16):
Rattlitz guard from Georgia. Yeah, there you go. Not quite
as dramatic as the Bear's pick, No, because.

Speaker 6 (01:37:27):
People in Green Bay don't hate people fans in Detroit
nearly as much as they do Chicago. Right by the way,
I'll remind everybody here just before the top of the
hour the Broncos pick coming after the Ravens pick, which
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Speaker 4 (01:37:56):
Broncos on the clock, Baltimore, Ravens, Okay, Mike Green the Edge, Russier.
They do take the chance, Marshall.

Speaker 7 (01:38:04):
They certainly willing to take those kind of risks on
those kind of guys.

Speaker 5 (01:38:07):
We have in the past. Wow, Yeah, they're.

Speaker 4 (01:38:12):
Gonna get a good point. I thought it would be
We thought it.

Speaker 5 (01:38:14):
Would be a defensive player.

Speaker 4 (01:38:15):
Yeah, as as we Yeah, but then we just said
it were like good player.

Speaker 5 (01:38:19):
They keep getting away with this.

Speaker 4 (01:38:20):
Yeah, get two guys that should have been in the
first round. Malki Stark is certainly gonna be a first rounder,
and then get Mike Green. That's that's just not fair.
But once again, it's about managing the off field and
that's the reason why he's sitting there.

Speaker 6 (01:38:34):
So the the Broncos are officially on the clock on
the We're gonna hold off the top of the hour
break here for a couple of minutes so we make
sure we do not miss this pick and we'll have
it for you at least if our track record is
Indie indicator, we'll have it for you prior to it
being announced from the podium in Green Bay. So what

(01:38:56):
do we think I'm going running back? I'm not sure
between the kid from Iowa, also the kid from Tennessee Hill,
Dylan Johnson, Dylan Samson, or at ten I'm saying one
of those three guys will be the next next player taken.
Dylan Samson feels like one for me. I got if
I was putting my chips in right now, I want

(01:39:17):
I could go with that, I could go with that
for sure.

Speaker 5 (01:39:20):
I'm gonna go kalb.

Speaker 4 (01:39:21):
I think that of the running backs that are available
right now, he profiles as a three down back like
right away.

Speaker 5 (01:39:27):
But but again, if they don't they if you.

Speaker 6 (01:39:30):
Draft him, you're getting drick estimate.

Speaker 4 (01:39:33):
Well, I think you keep him as depth.

Speaker 5 (01:39:34):
They're the same back, they are the same back.

Speaker 4 (01:39:36):
You're right, You're right.

Speaker 5 (01:39:37):
I don't think you do.

Speaker 6 (01:39:38):
Okay, I mean, you know, anything can happen, but I
don't think you do.

Speaker 5 (01:39:45):
Samson.

Speaker 6 (01:39:47):
I think that pick would ensure that estimate has a
better chance I be back this year.

Speaker 4 (01:39:52):
No, You're absolutely right. If you have more receiving back here,
then you're giving your yourself a chance to sort of
build on the room rather than, you know, a lot
of ways tear it down. I just think Caleb Johnson
is a three down back. He's the last of this
tier of running backs, in my opinion, was going to
be a sure fired round two guy, especially with his
production at o Iowa. That would be that would be

(01:40:15):
kind of the direction I'd be leaning. But and then
that's at running back. There's still some really talented wide
receivers out there, so if you decide to go that route.
I Jalen Nole, I'm a massive fan of Iowa State.
Jalen Royle's a Utah State. I know that's one of
your guys been Yeah, good player.

Speaker 5 (01:40:31):
Kyle Williams at of Washington State.

Speaker 4 (01:40:33):
So there's some really talented wide receivers here if they
decided to go that route. But I'm gonna, I'm gonna,
I'm gonna stick stick with Caleb.

Speaker 6 (01:40:40):
Terrence Ferguson, the Heritage High School product, University of Oregon graduate,
was taken earlier in the second round, so he is
he is not available, and he was taken by the
Los Angeles Rams. So I don't know the tight end
spot here with respect to the Broncos. It might that
might be a little bit high for the remaining It
could be.

Speaker 4 (01:41:01):
I mean, you know, we've we've we've obviously talked about
Gunner Helm out of Texas. Harold Fannon was the guy
that for a long time, but people thought I was
gonna go but hire he has a lot of productivity
in college. A bit stiff, but you know, but I mean,
the numbers are hard to deny it. One hundred and
seventeen receptions on one and fifty five yards last year,

(01:41:21):
just last year at a bowling green.

Speaker 5 (01:41:24):
But again, is it a little too early?

Speaker 4 (01:41:27):
You love Aronda Gadson, but that'd be more of a
Day three kind of player.

Speaker 5 (01:41:31):
You're getting any information there for us?

Speaker 7 (01:41:33):
Ben, I'm waiting on somebody who's standing by the card
turning right now.

Speaker 4 (01:41:36):
Okay, look at you, our insider. This is how I work,
this is how you work.

Speaker 5 (01:41:42):
I'm waiting on the top.

Speaker 4 (01:41:43):
Are they making a pick?

Speaker 7 (01:41:45):
That's that is what it looks like a pig, but
we're I'm waiting on that.

Speaker 6 (01:41:48):
So because that's that's I'm saying. They're making a pick
on a running back.

Speaker 4 (01:41:51):
Okay, got all the Brody James jokes. I've just seen
him fly that he got drafted the door.

Speaker 5 (01:42:01):
Before.

Speaker 4 (01:42:06):
All right, Broncos on the clock. It's got to be running.

Speaker 5 (01:42:09):
Back, right. I mean, I don't want to get that,
I think so I don't want to get to you know, narrow.
But you know what, I don't corner in the first
pick either. That's true.

Speaker 4 (01:42:17):
Yeah, we were we were pretty focused in on offense.
They're the first pick. So I don't know, man, what
do you got Ben?

Speaker 5 (01:42:25):
Nothing yet? Wait?

Speaker 4 (01:42:25):
Come on, Ben, I can't make a.

Speaker 5 (01:42:27):
Case to snap your people up here a little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:42:29):
Let's set for him to send a text message fast
and they can send it.

Speaker 5 (01:42:36):
What do you think, Ben, what do you think is
going to be?

Speaker 4 (01:42:37):
I think a running back?

Speaker 7 (01:42:38):
I mean, I think it just makes sense, especially where
you traded back to the spot where you stopped right
in front of it. Looks like they're sending me something. Now,
hang tight, I'm gonna go with Samson.

Speaker 24 (01:42:47):
R J.

Speaker 4 (01:42:48):
Harvey. That's good to pick.

Speaker 5 (01:42:50):
Will be r J Harvey.

Speaker 7 (01:42:51):
No aber Broncos elect running back.

Speaker 5 (01:42:53):
R J Harvey. You're just telling everybody. I am telling everybody.
So we got running back, right, we just didn't get
the right guy. Yep. So how does r J.

Speaker 6 (01:43:03):
Harvey in your mind compared to the other three guys
we were talking about.

Speaker 4 (01:43:08):
I liked it out of Central Florida.

Speaker 5 (01:43:10):
I liked him a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:43:10):
He's a guy that can catch, he can run, he
does his pass pro probably needs a little bit of work,
but you know, he's he's certainly got breakaway speed. They
used him in a several different ways.

Speaker 7 (01:43:24):
Sometimes they did move him to the slot.

Speaker 5 (01:43:26):
A little bit.

Speaker 7 (01:43:27):
They were a little limited in their passing game because
kJ Jefferson couldn't throw the ball as well as you
as well as you want.

Speaker 4 (01:43:32):
But they ran kind of an option via option game.

Speaker 5 (01:43:34):
They did.

Speaker 4 (01:43:35):
They did like him.

Speaker 7 (01:43:36):
They would run some plays where they put him on
their backside on the wheel, that HP wheel on the backside.
You know, that's about malls On Staple hit in that
backside wheel, so.

Speaker 4 (01:43:43):
That's you know, he can catch. He can certainly catch
the ball over his shoulder.

Speaker 5 (01:43:46):
He can catch.

Speaker 7 (01:43:47):
With his numbers back to the quarterback, I think you
got your receiving back there.

Speaker 9 (01:43:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:43:50):
Tons of production, I mean. And what's cool about him too,
is he's not just a one year wonder, right. We're
talking about over fourteen hundred yarching yards in twenty twenty three,
over fifteen hundred rushing yards in twenty twenty four, and
as you mentioned, he's receiving back to and over the process,
by the way, thirty eight rushing touchdowns in those two years.
And then he's got five receiving touchdowns over the last
two years, including almost five hundred receiving yards.

Speaker 5 (01:44:12):
Before we take the top of the.

Speaker 6 (01:44:13):
Hour, break Bronco fans want to know officially what.

Speaker 5 (01:44:16):
His speed was.

Speaker 4 (01:44:17):
Oh, I tell you, yeah, yeah, I know this.

Speaker 5 (01:44:19):
He had good speed.

Speaker 6 (01:44:20):
Yeah, he's a guy that can run. I just don't
know what he ran.

Speaker 4 (01:44:23):
Yeah, give me one second, I'll grab that for you.
Ardie Harvey. Yeah his speed four four to Oh yeah,
that's four four flats for four flat, big time fast.
That's a good pick.

Speaker 9 (01:44:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:44:36):
I mean again, we talked about a running back and
we listed off a huge group of them, but again
you brought it up perfectly. Audric estimate is here. He's
give been the thunder versus the lightning that you really
needed to add to the room.

Speaker 5 (01:44:48):
And that's what Argie Harvey is.

Speaker 7 (01:44:49):
Thirty eight hundred yards, thirty nine total touchdowns over the
last two years.

Speaker 5 (01:44:52):
He's productive. Yeah, no question about that.

Speaker 6 (01:44:54):
We are going to step aside a little bit late
for the top of.

Speaker 5 (01:44:57):
The hour break.

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More Radios that selective. Mike Green linebacker Muscle Mike Green.

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Marshall six foot three, two hundred and fifty one pounds.

Speaker 4 (01:45:51):
Third and nineteen and thirty nine. Howard is rubble.

Speaker 22 (01:45:54):
Howard will be sacked by getz O Mike Green Money.
Green uners the draft after a season at Marshall where
he earned Sunbelt Defensive Player of the Year and All
American Hunners. Greenheads did the NFL with potential baggage as
he paced two allegations of sexual assault when he was
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hide and says he did nothing wrong. Green leave Nation
with seventeen sacks last season. Had excelled at the NFL
Combine after running extremely fast times in the short shuttle
and three cones row.

Speaker 4 (01:46:28):
All right, there you go, Mike Green going to the
Baltimore Ravens. It's very Ravens kind of pick, and the
Denver Broncos at pick number sixty, have selected running back.

Speaker 5 (01:46:38):
At a UF.

Speaker 26 (01:46:39):
Sixtieth pick in the twenty twenty five NFL Draft, the
Denver Broncos select RJ.

Speaker 4 (01:46:47):
Harvey running back. You see, well he was twenty four
years old. Interest.

Speaker 11 (01:46:53):
There you go.

Speaker 4 (01:46:54):
What a cool, like full circle moment there, Melvin Gordon
announcing a running back pick on Day two out there
in Green Bay, just just so cool. Welcome back to
our coverage here line from Broncos Park, powered by Common Spirit.
We're gonna check in with RJ. Harvey in just a
matter of moments.

Speaker 9 (01:47:11):
What's that been?

Speaker 5 (01:47:12):
Did you say movin Gordon?

Speaker 4 (01:47:13):
Yeah? I thought money Ball was doing our oh ma,
monte Ball, Yeah we Melvin Gordon did the earlier pick.

Speaker 7 (01:47:19):
Ok, yeah, I table money Ball making our pick.

Speaker 4 (01:47:20):
But yeah monte Ball, Yeah yeah, monte Ball making the pick.
Welcome back to a Broncos Park, power by Common Spirit.
Our coverage of the twenty twenty five in FL Draft continues.

Speaker 5 (01:47:30):
And we are really amped about this pick.

Speaker 1 (01:47:33):
Ben.

Speaker 4 (01:47:33):
You said it right right before we went to break,
and we're gonna talk to R. J. Harvey in just
a matter of moments. What do you think, man? I mean,
the Broncos needed a running back and then they finally
got one. Yeah, this was one four hours ago.

Speaker 7 (01:47:45):
I said, keep you know, keep an eye on when
when people were when people were asking what I thought
they'd do. On day two, I said, be reactive and
keep an eye on RJ.

Speaker 13 (01:47:54):
Harvey.

Speaker 4 (01:47:54):
It ended up working out. I like Harvey a lot.

Speaker 7 (01:47:56):
Nick and I have talked about him a few times
on the show. Played ball at Central Floor. Be good
when we get him on the phone. I want to
get a chance to ask him what it was like
to play for Gus Malson. I got to play against
Gus back in high school when he was a Hughes,
So it'd be fun to, you know, to kind of
chat with him about that. But the explosive playmaker, productive guy,
a guy close to three thousand and four thousand something
like that total yards over the last two years, thirty

(01:48:18):
nine touchdowns.

Speaker 5 (01:48:19):
He can make plays on the ground and.

Speaker 13 (01:48:21):
In the air.

Speaker 7 (01:48:21):
And you know, I think I think I saw I
saw somebody on here. I think it was our buddy
Tampa Bay Tray, who had to compared it to Bucky Irving,
and I would say that is a very fair comparison.

Speaker 4 (01:48:33):
Yeah, that was Trevor Sikima took comparing him to Bucky
Irving and that's that's good. That's a I mean goodness, gracious,
what a what a rookie season that he ended up having.
As Nick Ferguson sliding in.

Speaker 5 (01:48:45):
What's up?

Speaker 4 (01:48:45):
Nick?

Speaker 11 (01:48:45):
What was going on?

Speaker 9 (01:48:46):
Guys?

Speaker 11 (01:48:47):
I stepped in right at the right time.

Speaker 10 (01:48:49):
I know everyone on social media was talking about the
Broncos taking a running back. Like Ben said, we talked
about r J. Harvey, but I thought the Broncos go
for a much larger back. But looking at hard being,
looking at his speed and his quickness, the first thing
I can think about is Darren Spros, right, because I'm
always thinking, in the frame of mind of Sean Payton,
what do these comps look like that he is familiar with.

Speaker 5 (01:49:10):
Now?

Speaker 31 (01:49:11):
R J.

Speaker 11 (01:49:11):
Harvey is a lot.

Speaker 10 (01:49:13):
Larger than Spros because spos are like five to six
maybe one ninety. So you get the bigger back with
more quickness. Now here's what's gonna come up, because I've
watched film where he struggles sometimes in past protection. So
that is gonna be something that definitely comes up with
the back being a small size.

Speaker 11 (01:49:33):
But when you.

Speaker 10 (01:49:33):
Want elite quickness, short every quickness and explosive he's gonna
give it.

Speaker 4 (01:49:38):
To you, and I love his vision. Honestly, that's one
of those things like not only as a receiver, but
even even finding sort of the gaps in the line.
I think that's something that I'm really excited to talk
to about.

Speaker 7 (01:49:49):
Second highest breakaway rate of any running back with one
hundred carries or more in the college football season the FBS.

Speaker 4 (01:49:55):
All right, let's head out to the highlight right now
as we welcome one.

Speaker 5 (01:49:58):
Of the newest Denver Broncos r J Harvey.

Speaker 4 (01:50:00):
RJ. Congratulations. How excited were you to get the call
moments ago?

Speaker 23 (01:50:07):
Man, I'm super excited. It's it's so crazy because.

Speaker 32 (01:50:09):
Right before I got that phone called, I just felt
I just felt it about to happen. I just felt
my name about it because I'm just I'm just so
so excited that, uh, all the coaching staff of the gym,
every everybody, uh you know, uh, they they told me
to come to Denver Broncos and I'm to the Denver
Broncos and I'm just excited to a showcase my skills

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to Bronco.

Speaker 9 (01:50:31):
Nason.

Speaker 23 (01:50:31):
I'm just don't want to do whatever I can to
help my team.

Speaker 7 (01:50:35):
Well back when I was in high school, I got
to play against it up becoming coach named Gus Malsan.

Speaker 4 (01:50:39):
You actually got to got coached by the man.

Speaker 7 (01:50:41):
What was that experience like there at Central Florida.

Speaker 23 (01:50:45):
Yeah, it was, it was, it was.

Speaker 24 (01:50:46):
It was a great experience.

Speaker 23 (01:50:47):
You know, me and me and coach guz uh that's
my guy.

Speaker 3 (01:50:51):
You know.

Speaker 23 (01:50:51):
Uh he he loves running the ball. You know, you
want to go straight at you. Uh that that's that's
what he That's what he loves to do. And my
time with Coach Guts it it was, it was, it was,
it was great. You know, I'm I'm super.

Speaker 19 (01:51:03):
Bessed, but have.

Speaker 23 (01:51:05):
I've been a player for coach Gusts and h it.

Speaker 9 (01:51:08):
Got me this far.

Speaker 23 (01:51:09):
So I'm I'm happy for him. I'm happy r J
R J.

Speaker 11 (01:51:13):
Nick Ferguson here.

Speaker 10 (01:51:14):
The one thing I love about your game is how
you operate in space, and a lot about the NFL
is being able to make guys miss and open space
with a lot of grass. What would you attribute to
that skill set that you have in making guys missing
space too?

Speaker 23 (01:51:31):
Yeah, that's the you know, I work. I work at
it all the time, you know, you know, that's something
That's that's a big part of my game that I
focus on, you know that I want to consistently get better,
get better at that. And there's plenty more things I
know for sure I need to get better at.

Speaker 9 (01:51:46):
And I'm I'm just.

Speaker 23 (01:51:49):
Ready to get up a bit different and just get
to work, you know, just showcase all my skills.

Speaker 9 (01:51:55):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:51:57):
The last couple here for you r J. Harvey joining
us here.

Speaker 10 (01:52:00):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:52:00):
You know, one of the things that I think the
Broncos were really looking forward to finding is running back
in this class that had tremendous receiving skills, and that's
something that you had a chance to really show off
there at UCF as far as it, you know, at
the pro level, I mean imagine a lot of that
still translates pretty well. And would you say that that
was ultimately one of your biggest strengths as as a

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pass catcher and as running back out of the backfield.

Speaker 9 (01:52:26):
Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 23 (01:52:27):
You see, we didn't really you know, I don't, I don't.
I didn't really have that. We didn't do too many
like passes to the running back, you know, but every
time that we did, you know, I try to make
the most out of it because I know that our
Austins didn't really consist of it, but uh there's plenty
of times in practice where I've you know, I've caught
the ball and made plays and in the game as well.

(01:52:48):
The coaches, they know it are getting out of me.
They picked me for a reason to come up to Denver,
and uh, you know, I said, I can do it all,
and I'm just ready to just get to work.

Speaker 9 (01:52:58):
That's it.

Speaker 23 (01:52:58):
I'm just ready to get to work.

Speaker 4 (01:53:01):
Well.

Speaker 7 (01:53:01):
Sean Payton offenses have had a lot of great running
backs in it. I think Alba kamaras the name most recently.
People look at your scouting report, they compare you to
guys like Bucky Irving, dvde Chain.

Speaker 4 (01:53:10):
Like and Mitchell who would you say you most pat
of your game after.

Speaker 23 (01:53:15):
I'm trying not to really compare myself, but you know,
I love watching guys like Jamierrick Gibbs, Uh, Christian McCaffrey,
say Kwan of course, Aaron Jones, you know, watching those guys,
and uh, you know, I just uh, I just watched
all of it, and I just watching how they carry
theirselves throughout the.

Speaker 24 (01:53:35):
Game, and uh, you know, I just just trying to
try to take for what I don't I don't.

Speaker 23 (01:53:40):
Really try to compare myself, but yeah, those are the
guys that I really pay attention to.

Speaker 10 (01:53:47):
All J last one for me here obviously, once again,
I go back to watching you on the film in
your vision, I know Ryan Evers, he and I were
talking about it before you came on with us. I mean,
when you think about joining the Broncos offense and understanding
that you you've got to be behind a massive offensive line,
and this is something that Champagne has preached on as

(01:54:09):
far as being able to create a lot of space
with his running backs. I mean, when it comes to
to to your vision, what is something that you look
forward to once the ball is handed to you?

Speaker 23 (01:54:21):
Yeah, you know, every time I touch the ball, you know,
my mind says the score.

Speaker 9 (01:54:25):
You know.

Speaker 23 (01:54:26):
But yeah, like like you said, uh, it's a big
offensive line. You know, I'm excited to get to get
to know those know those guys and uh you know
it's just uh get to work with them, and you
know they're gonna they're gonna help me.

Speaker 19 (01:54:40):
I want to.

Speaker 23 (01:54:41):
I want to make them look good and uh they
hope they gonna make me look good, you know. And yeah,
I'm I'm I'm just ready to get to work, get
to get to uh, get to know all those guys,
get build a relationship with all of them.

Speaker 4 (01:54:55):
R J.

Speaker 5 (01:54:56):
We are really thrilled for you. We can't wait to
meet you. Congratulations again, Thank you so much.

Speaker 4 (01:55:00):
For the time, man, Thank you so much.

Speaker 9 (01:55:03):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:55:04):
Great night. Ah you too, newest Bronco r J.

Speaker 4 (01:55:09):
Harvey. We're gonna take a very quick break. We will
catch you up on everything happening with the NFL Draft.

Speaker 22 (01:55:15):
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The Broncos have picked seventy four. We're at sixty three
with the chiefs. Will tell you who went during that
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Speaker 5 (01:56:00):
It super incited. Is it so crazy?

Speaker 23 (01:56:03):
Because right with Block I phone cod I just felt
I just felt this about to happen. I just felt
my name about it because I'm just I'm.

Speaker 32 (01:56:09):
Just so so excited that coaches out of the team,
every everybody, uh Nate posing me that comes to the
Denver Broncos and I'm just excited toowcase my Cubs want
to do whatever I can help.

Speaker 9 (01:56:19):
Seeing you.

Speaker 4 (01:56:21):
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the second round of the NFL Draft has concluded, we'll
get you caught up on the picks in just a second.
But a little bit of a note. Shore Sanders not

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drafted in the second round, so his weight. Can we
head out to the hotline and bring on color analyst
for your Denver Broncos the one and only Rick Lewis. Rick,
It's great to catch up with you, man. What did
you think about the RG Harvey pick?

Speaker 24 (01:56:58):
Well, I think pretty much. It's like everybody. I was
expecting a running back there in round two. I was
expecting a bigger back, more of a three down tide back. R. G.
Harvey is not that guy. But I think RG. Harvey
maybe the explosive weapon that coach Peyton thinks the offensive needs.

(01:57:22):
Certainly will help Bowe Nicks. The guy ran a four
four forty, which was the fourth fastest among the running
backs the combine. He's a dangerous pass catcher. He averaged
thirteen point four yards per catch. This guy is short,
he's thick, he's quick. That's a lethal combination I think
for a NFL running back. Here's another thing about him

(01:57:44):
I find interesting. He's been in college since twenty nineteen,
so he's been in college for six years, which is
about as long as I went to college. You know,
I should have been a PhD. I was in college
so long. Twenty four years old. So he's not a
young running back. Rodrick estimate is in his second year

(01:58:05):
in the NFL. He's still twenty one years old. It's
a little perspective for you right there.

Speaker 7 (01:58:11):
Well, we've seen that going older before can work. Obviously,
Bonex was a little bit older coming in the league.
I heard the name come across the wire there. I
thought we were going to rock out in Britain for
a minute there they said PJ. Harvey, but we ended up.

Speaker 5 (01:58:21):
We ended up with RJ.

Speaker 11 (01:58:22):
Harvey.

Speaker 4 (01:58:22):
The running out of Central Florida. You know, it was
described as lightning in a bottle. I think that's the thing.
Speed speed, speed, speed, speed, And I.

Speaker 7 (01:58:29):
Think I wonder what this does for my boy Juweel's McLoughlin.
But in the end, you know, I'm gonna trust Sean
Payton when it comes to running backs.

Speaker 24 (01:58:38):
Yeah, I thought the same thing. Ben. He's similar to Juliel.
It's a bigger version of Juliel. He's not a three
down back. He's not really good in pass pro. So
we'll see what they end up doing here in round three,
round four. They got a bunch of picks left. I
wouldn't be surprised if they take another running back. I'd

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also like to see him get a wide receiver. We
talked about that last night. Tight end as well. There's
still some good players out there, so so far, it's
been a really interesting draft. I think one of the
most interesting drafts I've seen. And keep this in mind,
you mentioned Shador Sanders. He's going to be around three

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pick at best, and we're watching one of the biggest
free falls in NFL draft history, and I think somebody
in his camp must have convinced him that he was
like a generational talent and could just show up and
not try throughout the draft process. I don't know what
was going on. Whoever was advising him, I think did

(01:59:40):
him a real disservice because based on his talent, this
shouldn't be happening right now, so there's something else going
on there going on.

Speaker 10 (01:59:49):
Well, Rick, since you touched on that, I'll just kind
of follow up with this. I don't think it was
anyone in his camp just kind of building up his head.
It's just based on pure performance of what he's been
able to do and I can't wait to see what
the kid does. Hopefully he falls to the Pittsburgh Steelers,
that would be a great fit for him. But when
we look at players and should do in this particular

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conversation and watching them for safe fall, I think it
just goes back to the decision making of the teams
who are on the board, what they like, what they
feel as though they don't like, and what they feel
at this time. So I don't want to look at
it as a big fall for him. I'm sure wherever
team he goes, he's going to, like I told Ban
last night, they would have created Frankenstein and he's going

(02:00:33):
to come out with a scorch Or type attitude. But
going back to the Denver Broncos for a second. With
these two picks that the Broncos have made, which both
have been shocking, but I still think there's a place
in the organization to utilize these guys. I mean, how
do you think that Broncos Country is really reacting to
these two picks.

Speaker 24 (02:00:56):
Broncos Country is a little upset right now. Look at
social media. We saw it last night, We're seeing it
again Tonight's you know, everybody wants a sexy pick, you know,
and a lot of guys want you to go for
the you know, wide receivers, the running backs, quarterbacks. Well

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we got a running back. But you know, some people
might call R. G. Harvey a bit of a stretch.
I think a lot of draft experts saw him as
maybe a fourth round pick. Obviously, Sean Payton liked him,
and I believe in Sean Payton. He's a He's a
better talent evaluator than any of these draft experts out there.
So we'll take all of that with a grain of salt.

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But as you can see when you look at Twitter,
Broncos Country scratching their head and they're not too happy
with what's going on so far. They have a long
ways to go. We just finished round two. There's a
lot of picks left. These guys traded back for a reason.
They're gathering picks. They see guys that I think they
can get and pick up in the third round, the

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fourth round that they'd like. So I wouldn't get too
worried yet we're just two players into the draft.

Speaker 4 (02:02:10):
Well I'm not worried. I actually like what they've done
quite a bit. And maybe he said the Broncos Country
should enjoy a local dispensary. Maybe that I'm a film
a little better. Hey, Rick, I look forward to checking
in with you tomorrow. We might have a few around
there and just you know here, just take that, Yeah,
a little PSA Broncos fans just enjoyed the ride. Rick,

(02:02:31):
I can't wait to talk to you tomorrow. We're gonna
Brad Williams joining us, which is going to be very
very cool. And uh man, stick by your phone. We're
gonna be checking in with you here in a little bit.
If the Broncos pick in about six.

Speaker 24 (02:02:43):
Or seven picks, okay, I'll be here.

Speaker 9 (02:02:45):
Guys.

Speaker 5 (02:02:45):
Been fun.

Speaker 4 (02:02:46):
Thanks, I appreciate you the best. Rick lewis color analyst
for your Devil Broncos. Why you say people are.

Speaker 11 (02:02:52):
Shocked, Well, you know, I'm a little shocked.

Speaker 10 (02:02:56):
I knew the Broncos would take running back, but I
didn't think that our j Harvey would be that back.
And the reason I say that, guys, is that throughout
the pre draft process, we know that Sean Payton has
emphasized the ability to run the ball and wanted to
be more physical at the point of attack. So for me,
it was that translated into having a much larger physical back.

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All some of those backs have gone off the board.
Now there's still some guys that are still on the table.
Damian Martinez from a University of Miami, another physical back,
and the Broncos still can go in that direction. But
I would just shot that they took a guy of
this size. Now, with that being said, please don't dismiss
what I'm saying is though thinking r J. Harvey is

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incapable based on his size, watching him play, he's a
very explosive player. So the first thing that it said
to me when the Broncos selected him was that they're
going to change a little bit about how they run
their offense, right because now you got Evan Ingram, who
Ben loves to call the big slot. He's just a
tight end to me. But now you are opening things up,

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creating a lot of space. And the one thing I
know from playing against O Sean Payton teams and darrens
Rose was a part of that organization at that time,
I mean he hides behind those offensive linemen.

Speaker 11 (02:04:13):
Now you may think that r J.

Speaker 10 (02:04:14):
Harvey is a small guy, probably in height, but when
you think about the thickness like Rick talked about, that's
two hundred and five pounds coming downhill with quickness, with
vision and a lot of leg drive. So for me,
that's a lot of explosive plays that we didn't see
last year in the run game sick with two seasons.

Speaker 11 (02:04:34):
However, you want to call it. Then look, hey, look
r J.

Speaker 7 (02:04:37):
Harvey was a dual threat quarterback back in high school.
He was a high school quarterback, dual threat guy. He
worked in Gus Maleson's offense, which has a lot of
red option type stuff. I wonder if this opens up
maybe a little bit more use of Boe in the
red option game, since he's done so much of that
in college.

Speaker 10 (02:04:54):
Of course, I mean, when you think about what the
read option is, I mean, Coach Gruden called it. He
has another abbreviation for a ridiculous past offense. But when
you think about what the RPA RPO is, truly it
truly is is it's just another form of play action.
You're just trying to read the edge. He's trying to
either read the three technique of the Mike linebacker hold

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those guys. So maybe you can draw throw an ex
drift from what that is is a slant route by
the X receiver. But it also gives you another opportunity
to do so many things creatively in the backfield. So
I can see the Broncos doing that, because we didn't
really see Bowl utilize that way in the office. That's
why I say, well, when we're on the verge of
seeing I don't want to say a rebirth of Sean

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Payton's offense, but seeing a different version. Right Like last
year he had one playbook, this year is going to
be an entirely different new playbook.

Speaker 4 (02:05:46):
On the text line here five say, six nine zero.
If you want to interact with us, we're on till
eleven o'clock tonight. Help me in favor of what they
did picking up draft capital, choosing some pretty awesome players.

Speaker 5 (02:05:55):
I trust in what they do. Yeah, I mean again,
I understand what you're saying.

Speaker 4 (02:05:59):
I think, Nick, some of it is is expectation that
and maybe it's on us a little bit as media members,
but I think it's otherwise the era we live in where.

Speaker 5 (02:06:08):
Everybody can do a mock draft.

Speaker 4 (02:06:09):
As you say, well, gosh, I was able to put
together this mock draft where I got Trayvon Henderson and
Mason Taylor, and you're able to get guys that were
just not going to be in range of what you're picking.
An example of this is perfect. I'm seeing all sorts
of responses here to r J. Harvey, like that guy
was going to be a fourth rounder. Okay, so your
mock draft engine had him going in the fourth round.

(02:06:32):
That is not that is that is not suddenly a science, right,
You can't just use the mock draft engine as well,
this is a fourth rounder and this is such a reach.

Speaker 10 (02:06:41):
No, it's just not well, it's all subjective. You're absolutely right.
Like I had my heart on you know, Kuishn Jenkins.
When I saw him go off the board to Cleveland,
I was like, oh man, that was my guy. So
I think a lot of fans look at it in
that perspective because watching guys do in the season and
watching them doing the draft process, you know, you fall

(02:07:04):
in love with certain guys. I would like that guy
on my team. I would like this guy, And when
that doesn't happen, of course, there's a little disappointment. I
think that's why we have in this early shock. But
once we watch these guys play and watch you come together,
all of that is going to be like one under
the bridge.

Speaker 7 (02:07:19):
One thing I will say about Harvey, he's short, but
he's not small. He's short, squat, he's low to the ground.
He's gonna be tough to tackle. You know, five eight
guys trying to tackle them.

Speaker 10 (02:07:27):
Dude, you used to have making career off while you're
telling me, I mean, of course I know, because I
mean you had guys like Pierre Thomas we talked about
a couple of weeks ago. Once again, trying to get
into the mind of Chomp Page maybe a lot easier
than trying to get into the mind of Benjamin all right,
but the idea different, very difficult mind, but understanding based

(02:07:47):
on his past and what he wants to use and
looking at the personnel they added offensively, going back to
Evan Ingram, that changes the idea in my mind exactly
of how they wanted to boy the players that they
have on this team. Like what Rick said, I agree.
I see the Broncos using the picks that they have
a mass trading back to pick up another running back

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to pick up a wide receiver, also get a tight end,
but add some more talent on the defensive side.

Speaker 11 (02:08:16):
Of the ball.

Speaker 5 (02:08:17):
Let's go to the podium really quick and hear this pick.

Speaker 4 (02:08:20):
Green? All right, So there's Harrel fan and an exaggeration
from bowling Green going off the board. There a picked
sixty seven. The Lions are now in the clock at
picked seventy. Broncos of course picking at seventy four as
part of their trade. So while we were discussing the
players we finished the second rounds we mentioned Shidor Sanders

(02:08:41):
did not go off the board.

Speaker 5 (02:08:43):
Some good players though did. Trey Almost went to Washington,
A big fan of him.

Speaker 4 (02:08:46):
Cornerback at Old Miss from Mark Turner at Texas, A
and m another defensive tackle there off the board. Omar
Norton Lott, a guy that I thought might go tail
in the first round early day two.

Speaker 5 (02:08:56):
He ended up going to the Chiefs. It's a good pick.

Speaker 4 (02:08:58):
Andrew mccouba safety out of Texas goes at the tail
end of the second round beginning of the third guy
that I was surprised well lasted this long, Darius Alexander
at Toledo. He goes to the Giants, Ashton Gillett going
to Louisville that are from Louisville, Edge.

Speaker 5 (02:09:14):
Going to the Chiefs.

Speaker 4 (02:09:15):
So they got a couple of defensive players there and
now a tight end off the board.

Speaker 5 (02:09:19):
So maybe we might see a little bit of a
run on tight ends here.

Speaker 4 (02:09:22):
As we're about six picks away from the Denver Broncos
at seventy four. Tro Fellas, I feel like the Broncos,
I mean, get you trade back. You're able to move
up a little bit in the third round, you were
able to move up a little bit in the fourth round.
You added an extra fourth rounder. You still have two
sixth rounders. I'm pretty happy with where the Broncos are

(02:09:44):
at right now, Ben, Yeah, and.

Speaker 5 (02:09:46):
I'm not paid to say that either.

Speaker 9 (02:09:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:09:47):
I saw some of that nonsense on Twitter that.

Speaker 7 (02:09:50):
I mean, I think guys who work for state sponsored
nugget stas shouldn't probably just talk about state sponsored stuff.

Speaker 5 (02:09:55):
But that's beside the point. Anyway.

Speaker 7 (02:09:58):
I think the Broncos got I think they got a
go pick. I'm excited by both the picks that they got.
You know, Harvey's not Trayvon Henderson, it wasn't my guy,
wasn't quitch y'all, Juwkins wasn't your guy, but he still
got I mean, you can watch the tape.

Speaker 4 (02:10:09):
He's explosive, he's exciting, he's fun and so, you know.

Speaker 7 (02:10:12):
As far as the rest of this stuff goes, I
think people that don't know anything about football probably shouldn't
sit there pretending they know stuff about football.

Speaker 11 (02:10:19):
Here's what I'll say about that, guys, is that.

Speaker 10 (02:10:23):
Even though your guy may not be selected, and you
may feel as though the guy that the Broncos took
may not be a great fit for them. The idea
is still get behind the pick. This is a great organization.
They're moving in the right direction. Let's give these players
and his coaches an opportunity to show how they're putting
the puzzle together right now. If you fast forward and

(02:10:47):
we're dealing with the January or February and the season
didn't go well, now.

Speaker 11 (02:10:51):
We can have that conversation.

Speaker 10 (02:10:52):
But right now it's the idea is they identify players
in position of availability and trying to find value in
those particular players and say, okay, well, if you identify
this play and you select him, he figures though that
there is a way that you want to utilize that
player in their offense or defense. So even though some

(02:11:13):
of the players are not who I would have taken
when I would have taken, I'm still happy and I'm
gonna ride with the team I'm.

Speaker 7 (02:11:17):
Gonna And this may just may be blanking here, but
I know Harvey war number seven in college did Bark
number seven as well?

Speaker 4 (02:11:24):
Ye he did. So we're doing the all L Way
draft right now, All L Way would that.

Speaker 5 (02:11:30):
Be like pretty funny just as.

Speaker 4 (02:11:31):
Far as a cat.

Speaker 10 (02:11:39):
Wow, Now you're gonna make me look at the other
guys who are still on the board and see if
they have number.

Speaker 7 (02:11:45):
Seven observation just off the top of my head there,
that's that.

Speaker 10 (02:11:49):
Mind field, which is his head. My brain works, mysterious way.
It's gonna pop out there at some point. You hope
that is something that's good for radio. And by the way,
fan and is off the board now, I don't know
if you guys you did mention that. Yeah, sorry, I
was going down a rabbit hole here.

Speaker 7 (02:12:02):
That's okay, people, Yeah, you know, you see, I'm all
for a friendly radio competition across town. I just you know,
I wish the guys that didn't know anything wouldn't sit
there and pretend they did.

Speaker 4 (02:12:11):
Darian Porter cornerback from Iowa State going to the Raiders,
and Mike got Kyle Williams from Washington State going to
the Patriots. Patriots picking up two there that they Henderson
they added and they got Kyle Williams. Hashtag guys in
this draft. And when Mike Rabils certainly certainly stocking the
offense over there for Drake Manick.

Speaker 10 (02:12:30):
You know what, guys, I want to add this to
the conversation, when I think about teams around the league,
and more importantly in the NFC West, and it's kind
of an arms race, and you're trying to add players.
To me, look like Denver is trying to become a
little more, a little quicker and faster on both sides
of the ball. That was something that was definitely prevalent

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in the Buffalo Bill's game right where the speed just
looked like it didn't match Buffalo. Seemed like they were playing,
you know, on some hot wings or something like some
Buffalo hot on and Broncos just got the cold ones.
But they're realizing the league is changing, they need to
add more speed and athleticism, and that's what they did
with these two picks.

Speaker 4 (02:13:12):
Yeah they did.

Speaker 5 (02:13:13):
I mean in Harvey, like you said, I mean a
four four forty speed.

Speaker 4 (02:13:16):
I think his past catching, even though he didn't really
want to admit, I think his pass catching is underrated.
You have you watched Hi of his film, Yes, of course, Yeah,
he's amazing.

Speaker 5 (02:13:24):
Yeah again, his vision, I mean he makes these cuts.

Speaker 9 (02:13:26):
Now.

Speaker 4 (02:13:26):
I will say there's sometimes that he does try to
dance a little bit decisive, but otherwise, I mean that's like,
it's pretty small when you're talking about the productivity eather UCF.

Speaker 10 (02:13:37):
Well, yeah, that's something that's minor. And I'm sure you
know they're talking to him about it. Like in the NFL,
you don't have time to dance an all it is
hit it and get it. But the one thing about
it is that I love when he gets to the
edge as a perimeter runner. I always look at football
as a mathematical equation. There's less players on the outside
of the perimeter on the numbers, and if you're able

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to press that edge zone as far as a zone plays,
it just takes me back to playing with Clinton Porters
how great he was with his vision. And once you
get him on the edge, whether you are running off
tackles or you're running quick pitches, now you have maybe
the dB. Now the receiver has to really get into
the run game and do a great job of blocking.
But now you put that running back one on one

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eight yards downfield with the safety and I can tell you, man,
it is hard trying to tackle guys in space. But
guys who are LEGITIBO, guys like RJ. Harvey is that's
gonna make it really difficult. You can get some interesting
looks here too. You get a gun too back with
him and you know, estimate or him and a bigger
back out there. All of a sudden, you got a
play action game and a you know, a mountaineer motion,
you know, go orbit motion thing going on. You can

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get creative with that and utilize your speed.

Speaker 5 (02:14:43):
Get him going before the.

Speaker 7 (02:14:44):
Snap, and he's real gonna be real tough to stop
if you can get him up the full speed before
you've snapped the ball.

Speaker 11 (02:14:48):
You know what, man, you maybe think about something because
we go back to.

Speaker 4 (02:14:51):
The can we go still?

Speaker 5 (02:14:52):
Hear the podium real quick for the lines.

Speaker 4 (02:14:53):
Yes, I was gonna be a packer, but the keys
of the NFC North came Is saved me. Detroit it
manman one ride.

Speaker 9 (02:15:03):
By, down by, down by now.

Speaker 4 (02:15:06):
The dam that wars. I traded the seventieth Pig to
the Detroit Lions.

Speaker 11 (02:15:11):
Let's see who my future teammate will be with the seventieth.

Speaker 13 (02:15:14):
Pig in the twenty twenty.

Speaker 4 (02:15:15):
Five NFL draft. The Detroit Lions, Like, I think to
the slow wide receiver Marcasolt, what rye? There goes a
slot receiver? Uh, it's four four five forty guys, especially
one of those guys that kind of wondered in this
range slot guy by the way, not one of those,
not your typical little little jitterbug slot.

Speaker 5 (02:15:34):
This is a power slot guy. Yes, yeah, anyways, I'm
sorry interrupt, No, no problem.

Speaker 10 (02:15:38):
So, so being what I was envisioning, offer the RPO.
You set up the r PO and it looks like
a design quarterback run to either right or left side
let's just say the right side of the offense. And
then now you're drawing the man thinking with bo but
now the back backs out.

Speaker 5 (02:15:54):
Back wheel now you yes, and he has.

Speaker 4 (02:15:57):
Experience with that. That is a staple of the Gus
miles on offense backside wheel like that, So that'd be
it'd be fascinating to see if they get a couple
of those off this year. All right, let's take a
quick break as we are live here for Broncos Park
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Speaker 24 (02:16:40):
You think RG Harvey maybe the explosive weapon. Coach Peyton
thinks the offense needs certainly will help Bowe Nicks. The
guy ran a four four forty, which was the fourth
fastest among the running backs. To combine, yeahs short, he's thick,
he's quick. That's a lethal combination, I think for a
NFL running back.

Speaker 4 (02:17:02):
That was color analyst Rick Lewis. We're live from Broncos Park,
power by Common Spirit. The Broncos are on the clock
right now here in the third round, picking at seventy four.
Coming off the board. Moments ago, Vernon Broughton goes to
the Saints. I gotta get the Bills and Jets. I
know the Jets took Azriah, who I like a lot

(02:17:25):
A Z Thomas went to the Jets. Yeah, so Asarah
and then Lannon Jackson went to the Bills. So that's
where we're at there. The Broncos are selecting here at
pick seventy four. We want to call their shot.

Speaker 7 (02:17:38):
I feel like it's a little early for a gunner helm.
This could be a defensive line pick, maybe a tackle
you know who hasn't gone yet.

Speaker 5 (02:17:47):
My guy out there at Kentucky.

Speaker 7 (02:17:48):
Yeah, Thean Walker, he had some some injury issues, big body,
nose tackle. You could see potentially a wide receiver here. Yeah,
it feels a little early for the tight end portion
of it.

Speaker 4 (02:18:04):
But you know what about you, Nick Ferguson, do you
have a U?

Speaker 5 (02:18:08):
I have the name.

Speaker 4 (02:18:09):
Okay, it's Pat Bryant. Oh okay, all right, Pat Bryant.
Oh so, uh okay, go wide receiver here. Huh yep, okay,
Well what do you know what I mean? What do
you like about Pat Bryant? I mean Illinois, I know that.
Trying to think you fine, it's forty time here. Oh

(02:18:30):
I don't know that off the top of my head.
Four six six and four pounds, so big wide receiver
as a senior out of Illinois. So that'll be the
pick here for the Broncos at seventy four. So going
kind of doubling down on the offense, going to RJ.
Harvey and then going Pat Bryant with the very next pick.

(02:18:55):
What do you what do you think about that pick there?
Nick Ferguson, Well, you know what I know.

Speaker 10 (02:18:59):
I know the Bronx Goes needed to add some additional
depth to the wide receiver room. I know before and
during the pre draft process, the Broncos said constantly that
they were happy with the wide receiver room and what
they received they have so far. But to me, when
I look at what this what the Broncos have done
thus far, it's about adding depth. You want to make

(02:19:22):
sure that you have enough guys because last season we
saw some guys get injured, like Devon Vley. I mean
there were some opportunities where you know, he got injured,
you didn't really get a chance to really see a
lot of what he can do. But once again, is
adding depth, adding competition in that particular room, and it's
enough to target for bon Nicks.

Speaker 4 (02:19:43):
Yet another team captain had nine and eighty four receiving
yards and ten touchdowns. Did he wear number seven?

Speaker 5 (02:19:50):
Though?

Speaker 4 (02:19:51):
Question?

Speaker 5 (02:19:53):
It's a good question.

Speaker 4 (02:19:54):
You know this, You know I could understand the RJ.
Harvey pick. The Pat Bryant pick is probably a little
earlier than I would have thought.

Speaker 5 (02:20:02):
I'm looking at Dan Breuler, he had him as a
fifth round pick.

Speaker 4 (02:20:05):
Uh. There's a there's a lot of wide receiver talents
out there that we could have been looking at here.

Speaker 5 (02:20:11):
And I'm not saying that they.

Speaker 4 (02:20:13):
You know, you have your your you have your guys,
right and uh, but you know you got Tory Horton,
you have save you On Williams, got Jalen Royals is
still out there. Uh, Jalen Nole, I think is still
out there. Uh. Some of these guys are expected to
go on uh in the second round. So I sit
here like saying that I don't like the pick. I

(02:20:35):
want a little more information. But I did think that
he was gonna go a little later.

Speaker 7 (02:20:38):
Yeah, this is one that most people had a little
bit later. But again, this is one of those things
if you trust Sean Payton, and you gotta trust the.

Speaker 5 (02:20:44):
Decisions that he makes at the wide receiver position.

Speaker 4 (02:20:47):
Pat Bryant, you know, he's a guy that was productive
there at Illinois, certainly understands.

Speaker 5 (02:20:51):
Pro systems, you know, played in one.

Speaker 7 (02:20:53):
I'm getting a lot of things from Illinois fans that
are like, yeah, you're gonna really like this guy.

Speaker 5 (02:20:57):
You're gonna really like this guy.

Speaker 7 (02:20:59):
May not have been the the the guy you had picked,
but you're gonna like him so certainly, uh, certainly interesting.
He's got the you know, the requisite size and all that,
so it'll be fascinating to see.

Speaker 4 (02:21:09):
But the ten receiving touchdowns is certainly nice. This last
year almost a thousand receiving yards at Illinois. Uh, pretty
big fan of that.

Speaker 9 (02:21:16):
You know.

Speaker 4 (02:21:17):
You like his size.

Speaker 5 (02:21:17):
He's six foot two, he's four six one forty guy.

Speaker 11 (02:21:22):
Yeah, translate more to more of a possession receiver.

Speaker 5 (02:21:26):
Yeah, I mean that's that's exactly what this looks like.

Speaker 7 (02:21:29):
This looks like the Courtland Sutton sort of thing, you know,
I mean Devon Vele Courtland Sutton looks like that that
sort of position. Uh in Courtland is a little faster. Yeah,
I would say Courtland was probably a little bit more
athletic all the way around. But you know, Sean Payton's
like so sure handed what I call the slant god.
You know, the guys who can just pound that pound
that slant out.

Speaker 5 (02:21:49):
Of the X and and this seems like that guy.

Speaker 10 (02:21:51):
Well, I'll always defer back to what I've seen in
the past with Sean Payton and wide receivers. This is
kind of even though Marcus Cole sim was a lot
faster right than pat Is. But for me, it's it
translates to more of a possession receiver. And now you're
gonna rely a lot on Evan Ingram being that guy

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who can stretch the field and get you some of
those big catches across the middle.

Speaker 7 (02:22:18):
Yeah, I mean, this is this is the Sean Payton blueprint.
He likes guys that are that are a little twitchy
out of the inside. He likes, and he likes those
big guys who can get you a little bit extra
yardage after the catch. Yeah, of these guys like Gord
Lander or Pat Bryant here.

Speaker 5 (02:22:31):
So it's also known to be a really good blocking
wide receiver.

Speaker 4 (02:22:36):
And again that's not usually what you want to draft
a guy as a wide receiver to be.

Speaker 5 (02:22:41):
But that's something that matters in this offense, isn't it.

Speaker 10 (02:22:43):
Well, you know what, Royan, I wouldn't go as far
as to say, because I know dealing with how most
people evaluate wide receivers, you're not drafting the guys solely
on that premise and that premise alone. But just keep
in mind, what's the idea in the mo of this team.
They want to be able to run the ball. And
I can tell you being around both Coylin, Sean Sean,

(02:23:03):
I mean, Kyle Shenyan and Mike Shenyan. The idea is
that the key to your run game. You may think
it starts with the offensive lineman and they running back,
but the key to your run game starts with the
receivers outside. Just go back and think about Terrell Davis
and how well he was in the run game.

Speaker 11 (02:23:19):
Great vision, great.

Speaker 10 (02:23:20):
Balance, but you had Rod Smith and you had McCaffrey
and McCaffrey blocking outside.

Speaker 5 (02:23:26):
And you need to have guys who will committed to it.

Speaker 10 (02:23:28):
Because I know Ben's guy last year, the Jordan Humphrey,
he was supposed to be that guy and he never did,
in my opinion, a great job as far as latching
onto guys and driving them out of the way. So
you know, maybe this latest receiver, maybe they will rely
on him to.

Speaker 4 (02:23:42):
Do that again.

Speaker 5 (02:23:44):
I'm excited to talk to him just a little bit.

Speaker 4 (02:23:46):
And of course we'll hear from George and Sean after
the draft on sort of their mindset with here. Like
I said, another team captain, right, I mean, so Rgie
Harvey team captain talk about Baron earlier as a team captain.
Here you're taking another team captain of Pat Bryance, So
there's certainly not He's not number seven, he's number thirteen
by the way, So there goes that right away. Yeah,
there goes There goes that as far as a theme

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that they were going with. But yeah, I mean, I listen,
I think I think that there's a there's obviously a
bit of a pattern here as far as the way
that they are constructing this. And I'm gonna give them
there for the doubt, because I Von Vailey was kind
of in that category, right. I mean now that he's
not as old, right, he's only twenty two, so he's
not like the twenty six twenty seven year old to

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Von Vley, but it was kind of in that realm
of like, all right, well this is an interesting pick here.
We'll see what it ends up doing for you. The
size wide receiver, possession receiver, and I don't know, I'm
looking forward to seeing more about him. There are other
wide receivers if I'm being honest, that I liked in
this range, probably a little bit more, but once again,

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it's their preference.

Speaker 7 (02:24:50):
Yeah, I mean, you know, after the Veley pick, I'm
not gonna doubt them, you know, but you can sort
of see the vision now starting to coalesce with what
it is they're trying to put together here. I'm not
gonna doubt it would have been my first choice here
a guy I didn't have in my top well, hell
fifteen twenty receivers. But you know that's why these guys
would pay professionals. And I'm some dork with a microphone.

Speaker 11 (02:25:12):
I guess what's uh?

Speaker 10 (02:25:15):
The operative phase is like trust the process, and that's
all you can do at this particular point.

Speaker 11 (02:25:22):
I like you, Ben and Ryan. What wasn't my ideal choice?

Speaker 10 (02:25:27):
Wasn't the guy that I thought that the Broncos could
or should select at this point? But they see something,
uh in Pat and Pat Bryant and they just now
we have to see that vision come to fruition. What
does that look like at practice?

Speaker 11 (02:25:45):
Back again?

Speaker 9 (02:25:47):
Hey?

Speaker 26 (02:25:47):
Hey Rob Coos Country, how about how about Super Bowl
thirty two against the Packers.

Speaker 4 (02:25:56):
Wisconsin Night's You know I love you?

Speaker 26 (02:25:58):
And with that said, what the seven fourth pick in
the twenty twenty five NFL Draft, The Denver Broncos select
Pat Bryant wide receiver Illinois.

Speaker 13 (02:26:12):
Is Ana Jacksonville.

Speaker 4 (02:26:13):
Okay, there you go. That was Monte Ball out there.
How about Super Bowl thirty two Packers fans, Okay, all right, Well,
I said, he's speaking with some of the local media
right now, and we'll get a chance to chat with him.

Speaker 5 (02:26:26):
Here in just a little bit.

Speaker 4 (02:26:27):
Again, the Broncos selecting Pat Bryant's here with the seventy
fourth overall pick, and we are moving through the third
round right now. The Broncos on two fourth rounders, so
it's not impossible to imagine if they decided to jump
back up in here and grab somebody.

Speaker 9 (02:26:42):
You know.

Speaker 10 (02:26:42):
It was interesting that in Monty Ball introducing that pick,
he brought up this US with bout thirty two game.
And when I think about Pat Bryant once again having
wide receivers who extend the run game because their ability
to block on a perimeter, the first thing I thought about, yeah,
in mind to say that was an McCaffrey peeling back

(02:27:02):
on one of the Packers linemen when he was trying
to make a tackle in the run game. That's the
physicality that you want on the perimeter when you look
at wide receivers. So I'm hoping that Pat Bryan could
bring that type of physicality to the Broncos run game.

Speaker 7 (02:27:16):
Yeah, Mike garal Folo just tweeted out his interview from
the Senior Bowl with Pat Bryan. You guys want to
go to Twitter. I just retweeted you guys can look
at it. But yeah, sorry about the game winning touchdown
against Rutgers that he had and certainly an interesting pick.

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and the Broncos moments ago drafting a new wide receiver
and that is Pat Bryant. So we're heading out to
the hotline to meet him right now. Pat, thank you
so much for the time. Congratulations And what was it
like getting that phone call from the Broncos moment ago, Man.

Speaker 9 (02:28:32):
Very thrill moment.

Speaker 19 (02:28:33):
Man, There's no all the hard work that I put in, Man,
even since I first started playing football has really paid off,
and you know, just reaching my dreams and get to
the next level. Only thing on my mind right now
is just you know, I'm ready to get the Denver man,
and just put work in and help.

Speaker 9 (02:28:44):
The team win.

Speaker 7 (02:28:47):
Pat, if I'm not mistaken, didn't your brother play linebacker
at South Florida?

Speaker 9 (02:28:52):
Yeah, so my brother's brother played linebacker at the University
of South Florida.

Speaker 7 (02:28:57):
Okay, yeah, I was to say, what was it like
coming up having a brother playing the other side of
the ball that helped prepare you on the offensive side
to come out here and get ready to play for
the Denver Broncos.

Speaker 9 (02:29:05):
I mean it's very special.

Speaker 14 (02:29:06):
Man.

Speaker 19 (02:29:07):
I grew with all older brothers, so you know, we
put we horse played a lot many They turned me
into a man very very early. But just growing up
watching them play ball, man, I kind of always knew that,
you know, growing up one day that I had that
football in my hand. Playing in the National Football League,
Pat put.

Speaker 10 (02:29:22):
Me in that frame of mind being a wide receiver,
because I mean, as tall as you are, obviously everyone
talks about the fifty to fifty balls. What is it
like to possess that mentality as a wide receiver? Being aggressive,
saying that every ball that's thrown in my direction it's mine.

Speaker 11 (02:29:38):
What goes into that type of mentality?

Speaker 19 (02:29:41):
I mean, that's kind of how I grew up. Man.
My father always told me that I'm better than a
man in front of me, and when the ball in
the air is mon so really just using my size
and physicality, you know, to dominate, dominate DB's on the
EDDS man my main focus. When it's not even really
fifty fifty balls when they come to me, it's more
ninety to ten. So really just okay, here is mon
so when it goes up, I'm for sure to come

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down with it.

Speaker 4 (02:30:05):
I love that Pat Bryant joining us newest Denver Bronco.
You get fifty four catches, nine hundred eighty four yards
this last year, ten touchdowns.

Speaker 5 (02:30:13):
Boy, you just had a breakout season. What do you
attribute that to.

Speaker 9 (02:30:18):
Man, really just my all the hard work I put in.

Speaker 19 (02:30:20):
Man, just staying dedicated to Illinos for four years. Man,
plenty of times I could have jumped in the portal
when things weren't going my way. But man, just the
type of guy I am and the loyalty that I
have for that program, and man, just trusting in my coaches,
in my training and just you know, going out there
and balling like it's my last Saturday.

Speaker 9 (02:30:34):
Man, just leaving it all on the field.

Speaker 19 (02:30:36):
My main focus was coming to Illinois just to help
turn the program around. I feel like I did a
great job of that.

Speaker 9 (02:30:40):
Did a great job.

Speaker 5 (02:30:41):
Well, was you last Saturday?

Speaker 7 (02:30:42):
NFL plays on Sundays, although I guess we had Saturday
games now late in the season, so that works out.

Speaker 10 (02:30:49):
You know.

Speaker 4 (02:30:49):
It's just went through this process.

Speaker 7 (02:30:52):
What was the most enjoyable part of this process?

Speaker 4 (02:30:55):
From the Senior Bowl of COMBA the Proty, It was
the most enjoyable part of that process for you.

Speaker 19 (02:31:00):
Kind of just you know, just interacting with other athletes,
you know that's going through the same exact process, managers,
sharing our stories, managers, you know, having a good time
because you know it's a once in lifetime themes. So
just a joint it all man, seeing guys that you
know I kind of watch, you know, on Saturdays, watch
them ball out guys I trained with, you know, throughout
combine training down there for a lot of that at
Bama Ritos and just watching those guys even get.

Speaker 9 (02:31:19):
Dropted that day was very very special.

Speaker 19 (02:31:21):
So really just you know, meeting new people man, not
only that, but the coaches as well, and just talking
ball and just you know, standing around it by the
game that I love.

Speaker 10 (02:31:28):
You know, Pat, just sitting here listening to you talk
about this moment and all the work that goes in,
I can tell that you are really passionate about what
you do and what you will be doing for the Broncos.
But the Broncos embarking on and I guess a new
and all and that's running the ball. And here in

(02:31:48):
Broncos Country Rod Smith and McCaffrey, these are two guys
who were known for being physical blockers on the perimeter.
Let Broncos Country know right now that type of mentality
that you have when it comes to blocking on it
on the edge. And the reason I say that because
most wide receivers want to catch the ball not too
many one to block, but watching you, you're a willing
blocker and you're one of those guys who are going

(02:32:10):
to put you all into it. So explain the fans
who are listening how important it is not just received
balls but just kind of block blocking on the edge,
and it's helping expand the run game.

Speaker 19 (02:32:21):
I mean, my man, my model was always you know,
no block, no rock. But not only that, man, it's
not taking no plays off. I like to you know,
I like to play bully ball, you know, I like to.
I like to be on the dB all game. Loan
will never give them a break. So really, just you know,
helping in that run game shows what kind of player
I am, what kind of team that I am.

Speaker 9 (02:32:35):
Not only you don't want to.

Speaker 19 (02:32:36):
Make big players, but I want to help my teammate
make bit plays as well. And you know I love
to put dbs in the dirt, especially when it's blocking.

Speaker 4 (02:32:45):
That's great, all right, last one for you, really I
grew up. I dig it, man. No, that's awesome, But
that's gonna that's gonna fit it really well here. It
plays well with me, that's gonna fit it really well here.
Last what I have for you man, your name, team
your name team cat this year, and that's something the
Broncos continue to really focus in on.

Speaker 13 (02:33:04):
Here.

Speaker 4 (02:33:04):
They added a first round, picking Baron as a team captain.
RG Harvey moments ago a team captain and now you
as a team captain. What does it mean for you
this year to have Illinois, who you again invested in
four years, to name you a team captain? What does
that mean to you?

Speaker 19 (02:33:19):
I mean it was very very special, man, just having
my guys, you know, believing me as a as a
leader of that team to lead us to succession in
such a great season that we had this year. But
it's also a testament to you know, all the hard
work and all the loyalty that I put into the program. Man,
It just just being that voice for the team. You know,
when we face a didversity, I was the guy to
pick the team up. When we needed a big play,
I was a guy to make that big play. So

(02:33:39):
it really it started it, you know in some workouts, man,
just pushing guys, man and just set in that standard.
I even went back during during springball. This is just
to make sure you know the standard was still hot.
So really just those guys having that faith in me, man,
and just just being that voice of the team and
the guy that you know, helped swing the games and
just you know, lead us to success.

Speaker 4 (02:33:59):
Pat, we are so excited you're at Denver Bronco. I
can't wait to meet you. Congratulations and welcome to the Broncos.

Speaker 9 (02:34:08):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 4 (02:34:11):
I appreciate it all right, Pat Bryant's really really, really
fun interview. Holy cow, man, I tell you what, as
far as draft day inter used to go that that
might be pretty near to the top. I mean again,
we talked about it earlier, like I thought, maybe there's
some other wide receivers in this range. But man, his work, ethic,
his mentality, I don't know, Man, I'd be sold and

(02:34:34):
it's pretty easy to swing me, I guess. But I'm
pretty excited about this one now.

Speaker 11 (02:34:38):
I usually in these.

Speaker 10 (02:34:40):
Cases when guys are getting drafted, you know, we get
the best of them when they comes to saying, well,
I want to go to this team, I want to
do my best.

Speaker 11 (02:34:47):
But listening to Pat Man, he got me a little
fired up.

Speaker 10 (02:34:50):
Yeah, you guys better hope I don't put on that
number twenty five holme and then go fuck wow. But
the idea is that's the metalent that you want from
young players coming in. But here's something really interesting about
the last few players of the Broncos selected. If I'm
not mistaken, both of those players are from what state.
I'll help you out, Fellas, the state of Florida, right,
and and we're different down there.

Speaker 4 (02:35:13):
You can hear Florida, man. Everybody knows about Florida man.

Speaker 11 (02:35:15):
You can hear it in the mentality.

Speaker 10 (02:35:19):
And that's why I asked him the question about blocking,
because that's going.

Speaker 11 (02:35:22):
To be an intricate part of how he adds to
this team. And he said, no block, no rock.

Speaker 7 (02:35:28):
I just love the fact he was talking about the
bully ball there and wanted to, you know, want to.

Speaker 4 (02:35:31):
Put guys in the dirt.

Speaker 5 (02:35:32):
I loved it.

Speaker 11 (02:35:33):
That guy.

Speaker 5 (02:35:33):
That guy gets you fired up.

Speaker 4 (02:35:34):
Let's head back out to the high line and bring
on Dave Logan. Dave, all right, we just spoke with
Pat Bryant moments ago the Broncos selecting the Illinois wide receiver.
What do you think about the pick?

Speaker 31 (02:35:48):
I would say, Fellas, I'm a little surprised. Honestly, he's
a he's got good size, right, good size wide receiver.

Speaker 9 (02:35:59):
He's not.

Speaker 31 (02:36:00):
He's not the fastest guy in the world. But as
Nick was just talking about us, as I was listening
to me, he's a guy that he'll block you. He's
he's been catching the ball.

Speaker 4 (02:36:14):
He kind of fits.

Speaker 31 (02:36:16):
I mean, I'm not comparing him to Devon Vele, but
he fits the mold. I think evidently of what Sean
Payton is looking for in receivers. He's he's a guy
that is dependable. He's a guy that's he's a good
route runner.

Speaker 9 (02:36:30):
He's going to be right.

Speaker 31 (02:36:31):
Where he's supposed to be. And uh, but but I'll
say this. I I didn't have his name in that slot,
which means absolutely nothing other than just that.

Speaker 7 (02:36:46):
You know, this pick was a bit surprising to some people.
I think they maybe expected him to go a little later.
But talk to him on the phone, man, I love
his energy. I love the way that he just talks
about the game. The ball is going to be mine
when it comes my way. I'm willing to block, no block,
no rock, you know, and then talking about one to
bully people and stuff like that. We all know Sean
Payton likes those big body wide receivers. This sort of
fits the mold. I mean, I get it to the

(02:37:07):
fans and looking for a speedy guy for separation. But
you go back and you look the history of Sean Payton.
He has success with his type of receiver.

Speaker 31 (02:37:13):
Yeah, I think Ben that's I mean, that's exactly my point.
He's he's dependable, he loves football. Again, it gets back
to what we've talked about really ever since Son Payton
became the coach. He's looking for a specific type of player,
a specific type of of character with his players. He's

(02:37:36):
looking for a toughness with his players. And I'm I'm
I'm there for it on that stuff. I mean, I
think you can win with guys like that. Now, ultimately,
they've got to be able to make plays. And this
this kid made all the plays for Illinois. There's no, no,
no doubt about that. And he's he's a little I
would say this, he's a little bit for a guy

(02:37:58):
that ran. I think he is like right at like
four five nine or four six or right in that area.
So he's not a burner. But I will tell fans
that sometimes get really caught up on those numbers. There
are plenty of wide receivers in the NFL that run
somewhere between four five seven and four six three or four.

(02:38:22):
This guy's one of them. He's pretty athletic after the catch.
He's not a guy that is going to break a
whole bunch of tackles, but he's tough. He's tough as hell,
and he's a little more athletic after the catch than
I think his numbers would indicate to.

Speaker 10 (02:38:41):
Well, Dave, you've had a lot of time coming up
with game plans, so I'm gonna put you on the
spot really quickly.

Speaker 11 (02:38:47):
Now, when we talk.

Speaker 10 (02:38:48):
About a guy who is a big body guy, he
may not be that explosive, but we know the yak
yards are there. How do you think that Sean Payton
is thinking about being able to use I'm asking that
because you mentioned Devon Baylay, who both of these guys
kind of like mirror images of one another. But how
do you fit a guy with this particular skill set

(02:39:09):
into the offense?

Speaker 31 (02:39:10):
Yeah, you know what, Nick, I think that's a I
think that's a really good question, and I'm anxious to
find out. And I can sit here and bs you
and come up with some some concocted idea. The reality
of it is, I'm not sure do he and Male
compete against each other for a spot. I mean, Male

(02:39:31):
is a bigger receiver, you know, I think when you
look at this, I mean Courtland Sutton is a bigger receiver.
You've got memes, You've got you've got the sports around
drafts as a kid from Oregon, Troy Franklin, right who,
So you got Memes and Franklin kind of your your

(02:39:52):
deeper sort of guys. You've got Sutton, who really has
been very very good at intermediate routes, uh catching the ball.
And then you've got then you've got these two. You've
got vele uh In, the rookie from Illinois. So I
don't know, but I like his mindset and I think
I think Bronco fans will appreciate his toughness. Again, was

(02:40:13):
I surprised that he was picked right there?

Speaker 9 (02:40:16):
A little bit? I didn't.

Speaker 31 (02:40:18):
I didn't see that. I thought I thought the Broncos
would go for an offensive player there. I had said
running back and either tied in or running back and
wide receiver, and it turned out to be running back
and wide receiver. But but I got to be honest
about it. I didn't I didn't see that pick. But
again I think Bronco fans uh will like what he brings,

(02:40:39):
and it's just a matter of watching how it unfolds
in terms of where he actually.

Speaker 4 (02:40:43):
Lines up one hundred percent. Dave, really appreciate it, my man,
and we will check in with you. Broncos might trade
back in who knows, but we'll be checking in with
you after the next pick.

Speaker 5 (02:40:53):
Appreciate you.

Speaker 9 (02:40:54):
Sounds good, guys, All.

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Speaker 31 (02:42:06):
Bronco fans will like what he brings, it's just a
matter of watching how it unfalls in terms of where
he actually winds up.

Speaker 19 (02:42:14):
My mottol was always, you know, no block, no rock.
But not only that, man, it's not taking no plays off.
I like to you know, I like to play bully ball,
you know, I like to I like to be on
the dB all game. Loan will never give him a break.
So really, just you know, helping in that run game
shows what kind of player I am, what kind of
team that I am. Not only you don't want to
make dig plays, but I want to help my teammate
make ditch plays as well. And you know I love
to put dvs in the dirt, especially when it's blocking.

Speaker 4 (02:42:36):
It's crazy. I want to line. I want to put
dvs in the dirt, no block, no rock. That was great.
That was a lot of fun Pat Bryant moments ago.
And we'll get that interview up a ka with Colorado
dot Com. A lot of these.

Speaker 5 (02:42:52):
Interviews r J.

Speaker 4 (02:42:53):
Harvey, Jade Baron as well as Pap Ryan, we'll get
we'll hear these interviews tomorrow. Our cover starts at ten
a m. We'll be back here for Day three the
NFL Draft. But Day two in the NFL Draft is
rolling on and we're going to continue with coverage. It
will tell you the next picks that went off the
bord Shure Sanders still not drafted. But right now we're

(02:43:15):
gonna head out to the hotline and bring on color
analyst Rick Lewis. Rick all right, man, it was a
pretty quick turnaround, especially here on day two.

Speaker 5 (02:43:22):
It'll get even faster on day three.

Speaker 3 (02:43:24):
R J.

Speaker 4 (02:43:24):
Harvey, we talked about and now wide receiver Pat Bryant's
out of Illinois. What did you think.

Speaker 5 (02:43:29):
I don't know if you'd heard that interview, but what
did you think about that pick?

Speaker 24 (02:43:33):
Well, he wasn't on anybody's BINGO card. As far as
I know, he's a guy that makes contested catches. That's
what I know about him, which I think is probably
his superpower. He's got good ball skills, good football IQ
another team captain. So you can see a theme building here.
That's three for three for the Broncos. I love the

(02:43:55):
interview Pat the way and Nick, I think that comment
was directed direct towards you putting DB's in the dirt. Man,
you might you might want to suit up when you
meet this guy.

Speaker 10 (02:44:08):
Be careful what you have for rick lewis I got,
I got Ben or Ryan right here. You know what,
I'm getting excited. I got to put my had to
put my hands on somebody.

Speaker 24 (02:44:17):
I know, man, I know it got me fired up
listening to that dude. Yeah, I think he's an interesting pick.
I don't think anybody had him going in the third round.
But Peyton seems to be building his brand. I think
he's putting the band together, is what he's doing. He's
picking guys that fit you know, he's picking guys that

(02:44:38):
fit his brand, and we have to trust the process
because I think he knows what he's doing.

Speaker 4 (02:44:46):
Yeah, I think that's the thing.

Speaker 7 (02:44:47):
I mean, this is the Sean Payton archetype, the big
body bullies. You know, you look at guys he's had
over the years, Uh, you know Colston and Michael Thomas,
little Jordan, Humphrey Cortlands like guys. He's he likes those
those big body bully type guys. And this this fits
the mold. I get it, p Lord and Amber with
the forty time, But you know, the end of the day,
Sean Payton has a type and he goes when he
goes to the well, he.

Speaker 6 (02:45:05):
Goes to the well.

Speaker 24 (02:45:07):
Oh absolutely. And the other thing I like about him
is he's an ascending player. So he still hasn't hit
his ceiling, I don't think. And that's another way to
look at this guy. He's going to be interesting. Some
consider him to be an effective guy in the slot,
kind of like a power slot, which the Broncos really
don't have unless Ingram is going to fill that role

(02:45:29):
a bit on the outside. But you know what, it's
been a really interesting draft. Like I said earlier, this
has been one of the most interesting drafts I think
in a long time, and especially for the Broncos. The
guys that they picked I don't think any of us
really expected these first three guys that the Broncos have
picked it.

Speaker 4 (02:45:49):
And Nick you said.

Speaker 24 (02:45:50):
Something earlier too, which I like. It's all subjective, you know,
it's kind of like music. You know, some people love
Steely Dan and other people hear him go why what
is this right? And it's the same way when when
you're evaluating any kind of talent, including football players, and
like I said, Sean Payton seeds to know what he's doing.

Speaker 10 (02:46:13):
Well, speaking of Steely Dan, it happened to like Steely Dan.
My favorite Steely Dane.

Speaker 11 (02:46:18):
Song is paid.

Speaker 10 (02:46:19):
But when I look at what their building, here is
a bunch of guys with that blue collar attitude, guys
who are willing to come in and work. They're not
your ideal guys. These are not guys that most people
had on their on their boards. But if you listen
to each one of them talk, right, they talk about,
you know, their climb to the NFL, their career, the

(02:46:41):
struggle to get here. And I can tell you and
you know this as a musician, sometimes well the struggle
is real.

Speaker 11 (02:46:47):
But the struggle can.

Speaker 10 (02:46:48):
Bring out a lot and being bring out the best
and a lot of people and I think that's gonna
happen with these guys that the Broncos selected.

Speaker 24 (02:46:55):
Absolutely, would you listen to that interview with Pat Bryant.
This dude's got to chip on his shoulder. I love
guys ship on his shoulder. Man, you could hear it.
This guy's gonna bring it. He's going to bring it
every single day.

Speaker 9 (02:47:08):
And and that I love about the kid.

Speaker 24 (02:47:11):
And I'm sure most Broncos fans have never even heard
of them. In fact, like I said, none of that
on our Bengal card.

Speaker 4 (02:47:20):
Yeah, that was the thing.

Speaker 7 (02:47:21):
It felt like a lot of people were like, wait,
who we got the meme from from Guardians of the
Galaxy with the who going on there?

Speaker 4 (02:47:27):
But you know, here's the funny thing about that. All
the all the ALIGNI fans that they're following.

Speaker 7 (02:47:33):
Me on Twitter, they were they were saying they're random Raven.
They're like, oh, you got a great one here. This
guy's great. He always finds a way to get open
that kind of stuff.

Speaker 4 (02:47:39):
And so that's interesting to me. It'd be fun for
me to get a chance to.

Speaker 7 (02:47:41):
Get into tape because that's not somebody I really broke
down very much U and get a good.

Speaker 5 (02:47:45):
Look at him.

Speaker 24 (02:47:47):
Yeah, same with all of us. It's going to be
really interesting tomorrow when we get into round four. Maybe
the Broncos take a guy that's considered more of a
traditional three down back, like maybe say a guy from
Arizona State, guy named Cam Scatty. Hey, I could see
him coming round floor.

Speaker 9 (02:48:06):
Man.

Speaker 4 (02:48:09):
You know what, It was so funny when we had
Dave on earlier. We did a little bit of a
roundtable on Cam Scataboo and just say, can you imagine
how Rick is going to be if it ends up
being Scataboo at some point? Now again, I'd be a
little surprised if he goes on day two here, but
day three, especially early day three, would not that surprised
me at all. We were gonna have you on the
for our draft coverage tomorrow, and boy, I am absolutely

(02:48:33):
rooting for Cam Scataboo to the Broncos, just to get
a live Rick Lewis reaction to that.

Speaker 24 (02:48:40):
And you know what, you remember early in the college
season when I brought him up, Dave kind of Scott
right by the end of the season, Camp Scataboo. Davis
is Cam dry fan.

Speaker 9 (02:48:53):
Now I love that, man, is it could.

Speaker 24 (02:48:55):
Happen tom and I'm all for it.

Speaker 4 (02:48:59):
Well, Rick, I look having you on the broadcast tomorrow
as we always do on Saturdays, and of course appreciate
you checking in with us.

Speaker 21 (02:49:05):
Now.

Speaker 4 (02:49:05):
If, of course, the Broncos trade back into the third round,
we will call you back man.

Speaker 9 (02:49:08):
Thanks.

Speaker 24 (02:49:09):
All right, guys, we'll see you tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (02:49:11):
All right, the best. Rick lewis color analyst for your
Denver Broncos. As we're rolling through the third round of
the twenty twenty five in FL Draft. The Broncos, of course,
now with three selections. The first round, they took Jade
Baron out of Texas to cornerback. In the second round,
they traded back twice. They ended up selecting RJ. Harvey

(02:49:33):
at a UCF, and then moments ago they decided to
go with Pat Bryant's wide receiver out of Illinois. I
think the biggest reason why a lot of people thought
he was going to go into Day three is the
four to six to one forty as one of the
slower times at the NFL combine, And honestly, like you
don't really see a lot of wide receivers get drafted,
if at all, with a more than a four to
five forty.

Speaker 7 (02:49:54):
Yeah, but I mean, you know again, Sean Payton has
a type. He's got a type in this guy. You
looked at the clips that we were looking at, this
guy absolutely fits that that type.

Speaker 5 (02:50:04):
That was the thing when Sean Payton came out here.

Speaker 7 (02:50:05):
You know, everybody they ran, they ran ready, they loved
everything about Sean Payton, Like, okay, well, here's some things
that are complaints about from Saints fans over the years.
He has a very specific type when it comes to receivers.
Doesn't like to pay more than one, you know. So
you know, those are the things like how do you
love something if you don't love the process that that
guy has? And so this coach has a process, he
has a vision. George Payton's out here in the draft

(02:50:25):
executing that vision. And so I don't, uh, you can't
have your cake, can't eat it too. You got to
pick one or the other here. And that's the thing
that's kind of bugging me is somebody who's been pretty
critical of Sean Payton is like, well, wait a minute.
All you people that said you love the vision, you
don't love the vision exactly.

Speaker 5 (02:50:39):
So I think that there's a little bit of you
have to buy into the process.

Speaker 4 (02:50:45):
As you said, I think that's exactly what it is,
a little bit of benefit of the doubt to the
staff that has developed these kinds of receivers. Watching some
highlights while we were talking to Rick there, and I
don't know, there's some things to like about him for sure,
and I certainly liked his personality and his attitude that
jumped off the page a ways. To replay that interview
for you guys, In fact, we might even do that
here before we're done on the night, because we're on

(02:51:06):
till eleven o'clock. Anyways, we're about halfway through the third round.
This is kind of a cool story, by the way.
So two of the wide receivers that we really liked
Thatt of Iowa State, Higgins and nol they just both
went to the Texans. Yeah, the Texas took Higgins at
the beginning of the second round, and then moments ago
took Jalen Knowl at seventy nine overall out of Iowa State.

(02:51:28):
So two Iowa state wide receivers, two of the day
two wide receivers just went to the same team.

Speaker 10 (02:51:32):
What does that tell you about what Damiko and Ryan's
trying to build for c J.

Speaker 11 (02:51:37):
Stroud.

Speaker 10 (02:51:38):
That should tell you a lot because you already have
Nico Collins, big receiver who understands how to get open
in space, and then you add two more big bodies
to that mix. So now they're trying to build something
similar to what c J. Stroud had when he was
with Ryan Day at Ohio State. Big body, wide receivers
that know how to stress the fields, know how to
use their bodies to defend and ward off dbs.

Speaker 11 (02:52:01):
So this could be another exciting year. Now c J.

Speaker 10 (02:52:04):
Stroud sophomore year wasn't that great, but these picks tell
me that they're expecting to have an explosive offense. Right,
there's no step On Diggs, so you got to build
around in I like what the Texans are doing thus far.

Speaker 4 (02:52:16):
Caleb Johnson, who was a running back that we knew
would go on Day two, develop first select him at
eighty third overall, that was one where I talked about
him there at picks seventy.

Speaker 5 (02:52:32):
Well actually word of the Broncos select RJ.

Speaker 4 (02:52:34):
Harvey that was actually at sixty sixty even so, yeah,
I thought Caleb Johnson could have been a target there.

Speaker 5 (02:52:41):
They obviously obviously went a little bit more explosive. RJ.

Speaker 4 (02:52:44):
Harvey Caleb Johnson is he's a bulldog man. I mean
he's gonna he's super physical running back at Iowa. Tremendous
productivity this last year over fifteen hundred rushing our twenty
one rushing touchdowns. I like this comp by the way,
to Markoum Murray from Matt Miller. That's a good comp
for what he is. We're at pick eighty seven here

(02:53:04):
with the Green Bay Packers, and we'll go all the
way to pick one oh two. It's the Broncos right now,
not in, but they have two fourth rounders through the
process of all these trade backs that they had earlier.

Speaker 5 (02:53:16):
We have two fourth rounders.

Speaker 4 (02:53:17):
So if the Broncos opted to jump back in save
you On Williams, Oh my god, you going to the Packers.

Speaker 7 (02:53:24):
Yeah, why we talked about them big body receivers or.

Speaker 5 (02:53:26):
Whatever, the two wide receivers.

Speaker 4 (02:53:28):
Now to the Packers.

Speaker 5 (02:53:28):
They went Matt Golden earlier and they went there. They
had been not been happy.

Speaker 7 (02:53:31):
They put a lot of investment into those guys that
they have but not been happy with the results. Uh,
saviy On Williams is somebody I think it could be
a secret stud in this packers may have may have
swiped one from everybody else.

Speaker 4 (02:53:41):
Here in the third round. Man, Oh my god. DeAndre
Thorton out of Tennessee, Man, man.

Speaker 10 (02:53:47):
It's crazy to see the talent that these kids have
now coming out of college and Office of Coordinators. Man,
you have to be salivating looking at a lot of
the kids and being able to add that talent definitely
to your roster and more portly, if you are one
of the thirty two quarterbacks out here, when you look

(02:54:08):
at your team and see what they're trying to do
for you on an outside, on a perimeter, you have
to be a static I mean wanting to get back
into camp and get around your guys and start throwing
and working through plays. It's a marvelous time. And for me,
being a former defensive player, I just look at how
these guys would definitely challenge the defensive guys that I
played with, how much they would put stress on us

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based on the level of talent that they have. So
the game has changed drastically and it would continue to
change as guys get bigger, stronger, faster.

Speaker 4 (02:54:40):
You get your reaction guys five six six nine zero
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want to interact and tell us what you think of
the pick. So far, it's getting mixed results here on Twitter.
As I'm responding to some people, I would love to
hear some people reaction here on the text line as well,
like not to be a horrible person, but like, what
do what care some nobody from Nowheresville, you know, sitting
on his couch with his shirt off, who couldn't play

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in that you could couldn't play in the local rec league?
Shit here think thinks about this guy that he's never watched,
you know, like okay, like, let's see the vision, like
you know, Pat Bryant. Okay, I was a little like,
all right, what but let's see the vision.

Speaker 5 (02:55:14):
Man, let it, let it hit the field.

Speaker 4 (02:55:16):
Let's see the vision before you tear it down.

Speaker 11 (02:55:18):
See. I'm okay with individuals having maybe.

Speaker 10 (02:55:22):
Disagreements about the pick, because once again, subjectively, it's not
their God.

Speaker 7 (02:55:27):
If you were on Quien Jah juxas I was on
Trey Von Henston, we didn't get either one a force.

Speaker 10 (02:55:31):
To lie and I and I totally get it right
now we're seeing the Broncos are pulling the rabbit out
of the hat grabbing guys that no one really was
actually talking about. But apparently they see something in these
individuals that no one else sees, and they see a vision.

Speaker 11 (02:55:48):
And that's the thing about it.

Speaker 10 (02:55:49):
If you're selecting a player, you need to have a
vision of what you are going to do and how
you're going to utilize that play because if there's no
vision and you just drafting blindly, I mean, that makes
things difficult. But I trust in George Payton to know
that he's always done the right thing and bringing in
his guys and the guys that he's drafted since he's
been there, there is maybe eighty five percent of those

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guys have had adequate playing time and contributed all night
beside the ball.

Speaker 4 (02:56:17):
Well, then you mixed in with Sean and his ability
to scout wide receivers, right, I mean, he's he's been,
He's hit at every level. I mean, Marcus Colson was
a seventh rounder for crying out loud. I mean they
have a formula and this is this guy fits that formula.
They don't they don't need the burners. They're not looking
for birds. They have Marvin Mins, they got Troy Franklin,
they got some they got some speed guys already. H

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he likes possession guys. And and the answer he gave
to you about the ninety ten balls and that, hey, listen,
that's fantastic, that's real, and all the text on people
are saying, hey, man, listening to that? Is this guy
more of a replacement for Corland Sutton? Again, I don't
think you're replacing Courland Sutton now, but you're just giving
yourself some options and some hedges there because he is

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in the final year contract.

Speaker 10 (02:57:00):
Why is it every time you drafted players like one
players coming in, another is going out. Why can't it
be adding competition, adding depth, Because when you get have
adequate competition, guys who want to compete, they elevate their
level of play. Right when Baron was drafted yesterday, the

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idea was like, well, ja, Carlon went millin all right,
he's gone, I mean people we putting nails in his
casket And I'm like, well, no, let's not do that
right away. It's like, now you're going to see guys
have to compete, and that's what you want. You want
guys to come in and compete. And I'm glad that
Pat Bryan said you know what, not the fifty to fifty,
it's ninety ten.

Speaker 11 (02:57:39):
You have to have that mentality.

Speaker 10 (02:57:41):
And I said to you, I said to Bend last year,
I said, when you look at this Broncos team, tell
me what attitude do they have?

Speaker 31 (02:57:49):
Right?

Speaker 10 (02:57:49):
And I said, well, give me some of the dogs
on the team. And I said, I'll wait because I
knew you weren't going to give me a handful.

Speaker 4 (02:57:56):
Of dogs now, the big dogs. There was some sure,
there was little old there, but the whole.

Speaker 10 (02:58:01):
Idea is that now look as to listening to some
of these young guys talk, I mean, we can say
they're talking to talk. Now they have to walk to walk,
but at least they're coming in saying the right things.
That I mean is resonating with my ears. I don't
know about you guys, and I know there's negative people
out there, but what they're saying is resonateing to my ears.
Where they gonna come in and they're gonna push a
lot of.

Speaker 7 (02:58:21):
These veterans le mena REGI your list real quick. I'm
ariginal list of names. You tell me what you think
of all these names when I'm done. Cooper Cup, Alan Robinson,
Jarvis Landry, Kevin Benjamin, Larry Fitzgerald, and Kwan Bolden, Antonio Brown,
Jerry Rice.

Speaker 5 (02:58:31):
It's a pretty good list.

Speaker 4 (02:58:32):
It's a list of all receivers that ran above the hall. Well,
there you go, four six forties more. They're higher than
four six forty, every one of those guys. Let's see
once again for me. So we just got Jerry Rice. Well,
that's right, right, right, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 5 (02:58:51):
But what I'm saying is the speed the time speed
is not everything. Some guy play faster and pats Tess Johnson.

Speaker 4 (02:58:57):
For instance, the buck fifty five dripping wet, and he
runs a four y five five forty. But that guy
plays like lightning in a bottle on tape. He plays
faster than the time speed.

Speaker 10 (02:59:05):
But this is why for me and you guys may
bark at me, and so the listeners may. But I
think forty speeds sometimes are overrated.

Speaker 4 (02:59:14):
Running forty yards in a straight line of the game.

Speaker 11 (02:59:16):
Right, we put so much inmphasis on the forty.

Speaker 10 (02:59:18):
But then, like you said, the guys that you mentioned,
especially for me, Cooper Cup, I mean Cooper Cup wasn't
that fast, but looking at his speed when he ran
his rots, being able to get in and out of
his breaks, and also looking at how Sean McVay actually
utilized him in the scheme, you motioning him, getting him
off the ball, creating matchups for him.

Speaker 11 (02:59:38):
That's how you take advantage of it.

Speaker 10 (02:59:39):
That's how you maximize a player's ability, even if he
doesn't have that great speed. How many times we turn
on the film and you watch Jerry Rice or even
Steve Larger running past guys who are much faster than
they were, but they just understood how to get the
soft spots in the zone and knew how to beat
man coverage. So I want to get Brian the benefit

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of the doubt, to watch him come in here and work,
and then I will make my assumption after training camp,
but more or less once I've seen him play in
a couple of preseason games.

Speaker 4 (03:00:10):
I like this note from the Athletic Scott Doctrman tweeted
out says Illinois's Pat Bryant was the nation's most underrated
wide receiver. He had three game winning touchdowns in the
final minute or overtime. Also had a school record school
record ten touchdown catches. So shows up big and big moments,

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And like I said, I think you guys are saying
saying it perfect because where some analysts, ones that I trust,
had him going much later. You could kind of turn
this around and say, okay, well there's something that the
Broncos saw that they didn't see though those analysts didn't see,
and I'd say we even didn't see. So I'm not

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trying to make excuses people are accusing us of orange
colored glasses.

Speaker 5 (03:00:56):
I mean, I really don't care. I think more of
it than anything is.

Speaker 4 (03:00:59):
I just try to understand and justify, right, So, like
we did on on Night one last night with the
selection of a cornerback, where we we all kind of
I think tunnel vision thought offensive weapon, offensive player here,
we talked abou d line, but for the most part
we were kind of zeroing in a little bit and
then it was off the board because it was a
guy that we didn't really expect to be there, benefited

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of the doubt here. I'm looking forward to seeing how
they utilize him, how he sort of fits in here.
And there's a personality with this player, and there's a
personality with all these players that that that they're they're
bringing in, and there's a again I know about his maturity,
but I know it was Jodne Brent Barron when we
had a chance to hear from him earlier. Super mature.

Speaker 3 (03:01:40):
R J.

Speaker 4 (03:01:40):
Harvey and these guys. By the way, Pat Bryant went
four years in Illinois. You had to four years uc
F for RJ. Harvey because he was at Virginia before that,
so it was like a five year player. And then
uh and then Baron I think he was he was
in school for at least three. So you guys have
a lot of experience.

Speaker 7 (03:01:58):
Yeah, they don't mind guys that have have gotten the
reps at the you know, at the at the collegiate level.

Speaker 5 (03:02:04):
You know, I think they're I think they're they're fine
with that.

Speaker 7 (03:02:06):
This is interesting because Pat Bryant, you know, the more
you start to dig in here, you see him kind
of a clutch player. Yeah, you know, he might not
be the most wow athlete on the planet, but he's.

Speaker 4 (03:02:16):
A clutch player, reliable clutch player. He had one of
the highest catch rates in the n C double a
very very low drop rate. You know, kind of reminds
you of a.

Speaker 7 (03:02:23):
Guy Likenle or Tim Patrick, you know who just you know,
they hang on to the football, they just make catches.

Speaker 4 (03:02:28):
You talk about saw spot this is going. I'm sure
you remember a guy Naed Jabbar Gaffney Gaffneyyah four eight forty.
The guy could you know, couldn't didn't have the wheels either,
Matt dead dude.

Speaker 5 (03:02:37):
I would be darned if.

Speaker 7 (03:02:38):
He didn't have the best knack for fighting the sauce
spot in zones on third down.

Speaker 4 (03:02:41):
And making first down catches.

Speaker 10 (03:02:43):
You know, another guy that comes to mind is Jordy
Nelson who played for the Bay Packer's.

Speaker 11 (03:02:47):
A good example, and Jordy was a big guy. Wasn't
really he was.

Speaker 4 (03:02:52):
I hate to say this, go ahead.

Speaker 7 (03:02:53):
He was more No, no, you about to give a
white guy reference here, hold.

Speaker 5 (03:02:57):
On, go ahead.

Speaker 11 (03:02:59):
No, he was really quick.

Speaker 4 (03:03:01):
He was really quick.

Speaker 11 (03:03:05):
He was more quicker than fast. But once again, pail guy.

Speaker 10 (03:03:09):
When you think about Jordie Nelson and how he ran, yeah, well,
how he ran his slant routes being able to to
kind of get into that space. And when you watch
Pat Bryant on film, he runs slant route similar like
to run a slant rode.

Speaker 11 (03:03:24):
As a wide receiver, you have to have your mind
made up.

Speaker 10 (03:03:27):
You got to be a grown man, because you know
you're running right into the area where a linebacker is
so being able to do this.

Speaker 7 (03:03:34):
Wow, we have a quarterback selection, O, Timmy was Jalen Milroe?

Speaker 24 (03:03:38):
It was not.

Speaker 4 (03:03:39):
It was Dylan Gabriel getting selected before Shador Sanders the
l A Rams.

Speaker 7 (03:03:46):
I believe it is Ye selecting Dylan Gabriel.

Speaker 10 (03:03:49):
This is I mean, wow, what what more can you say?
But wow about that situation.

Speaker 11 (03:03:58):
This is kind of this.

Speaker 4 (03:04:00):
This is going to be one of those drummon Rams
takes Josiah Stewart. But I said, see Dylan Gabriel could
go Is that a fish? I saw it flash across
my string.

Speaker 10 (03:04:10):
Let's let's let's check out there to make sure. Okay,
that is fished either way. This is going to be
something that we look back on years later, like, well,
how did that actually take place? For a player in
twenty twenty four was projected to be a first rounder
to sly that far right.

Speaker 7 (03:04:30):
I mean I saw the same thing, Ben, I'm I'm
not seeing it like I said, because I even saw
like Josina Anderson respond to it. Yeah, so that's why
I'm like, I don't know if somebody got him with
a fake tweet or something like that. Let's wait just
a minute. But if that was the case, that's it
can't be right because I'm not seeing it. Dylan Gabriels
like what I had him undraftable.

Speaker 4 (03:04:47):
Yeah, so we'll wait to see. But either way, Shore
Sanders is still out there, still available, still available. I
still think the culture sneaky team here.

Speaker 7 (03:04:55):
I think the I think if I had to make
a projection, we're sitting there with how many about ten
picks left in.

Speaker 5 (03:04:59):
The round twelve pick something like that.

Speaker 7 (03:05:01):
If I had to make a if I had to
make a prediction, we'll be taken in the first ten picks.
He'll be gone sometime between now and then. Okay, that
what happens is that first ten picks of the fourth round.
Those guys that have you wondered if somebody makes a
move on Day three and burns a pick.

Speaker 10 (03:05:16):
Okay, at that point, is it more of well, best
player or well, we're just gonna make a decorgination.

Speaker 4 (03:05:22):
We're gonna try it, see if it works. What happens
we burned a day three pick? Who cares? You know?

Speaker 7 (03:05:26):
And so I wouldn't mind at that point. You know,
you could see a Dallas or so, who's the first
ten picks the fourth round. I'm genuine the curius here
because after the trades, I have no idea.

Speaker 5 (03:05:34):
So all right, so we got Tennessee, obviously got jackson.

Speaker 7 (03:05:38):
Jacksonville won't be New England. The Raiders right there at
six there you go. Somebody could trade with the Broncos
at n I won't be the Saints. So the Raiders
at the at the fourth round there that that.

Speaker 5 (03:05:50):
I think that.

Speaker 4 (03:05:50):
And then the Colts there at the fifteenth pick the Jets. No,
I don't think so.

Speaker 7 (03:05:54):
Maybe, but I doubt it, just I just doubt it
based on some things I think. But I think the
Colts are Raiders are probably unless you see a Dallas
come up and get him.

Speaker 11 (03:06:04):
Okay, that's wild.

Speaker 4 (03:06:05):
Yeah, Dylan Gabriel so that whatever that is. So is
Josiah Stewart at a Michigan is an edge rusher. He
goes to pick number ninety. So that Dylan Gabriel thing
was was garbage, I think, so.

Speaker 5 (03:06:14):
I think so I saw the same thing and I
was like, no way the world.

Speaker 4 (03:06:18):
Emery Jones, the Seahawks are gonna take Jaylen Milroe, though,
are they really?

Speaker 31 (03:06:22):
So?

Speaker 7 (03:06:22):
I'm just gonna let you know we're gonna take Jaylen Milroe.

Speaker 5 (03:06:24):
Okay, so Milroe is going off yep, no, no, Yeah.

Speaker 7 (03:06:27):
The Gabriel thing is false per source, but is off
the bar. Yeah, Jaylen Milroe is going to Seattle. Oh wow,
they get their new Russell Wilson. I mean, Dalen Milroe
compares very favorably to Russell Wilson in terms of what
he brings to the table.

Speaker 5 (03:06:42):
Yeah, Seahawks are selecting Jaln Milroe.

Speaker 3 (03:06:45):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (03:06:49):
I tell you what, man, I was wrong. I was
wrong about where she was gonna go. I was very
convinced that he was going to be in the first round.
I would have been convinced that he was gone early
day two if for some reason he got out of
the first round. And the fact that he might not
even go day two is stunning, absolutely stunning.

Speaker 5 (03:07:13):
I know why he didn't.

Speaker 7 (03:07:15):
I know why he didn't go to the draft now,
you know, I mean smart move because that camera would
be shoved in his face every five seconds. You know,
there's a part of me that wants him to go
to the Raiders at this point, because think about this.
Gino Smith was a guy that was projected to be
the top quarterback in that draft. They ended up being
ej Manuel Gino got the second round and Gino had
to go through it. He had to go through it,

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all right, He had to go through Gett Humblet.

Speaker 4 (03:07:36):
He had to go through. He got punched in the
locker room by Caigow.

Speaker 11 (03:07:39):
But Gino didn't even go through this, No he didn't.

Speaker 4 (03:07:42):
But he's been through a section because he left the draft,
remember that hit in the second He left the drift
with his mom because he was disappointed.

Speaker 11 (03:07:47):
He had to come back.

Speaker 5 (03:07:48):
He had to come back and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 11 (03:07:49):
But new wardrobe and then and then he was also
by a new wardrobe.

Speaker 9 (03:07:53):
He did.

Speaker 7 (03:07:53):
But then Gino's also he barn a Lee. He resurrected
his career. He under he appreciates the value. You know,
he's a guy who Drew Nobody was happier for Drew Locke.
And when Gino was hurt, then Gino smith that kind
of mentorship I think would be invaluable for shandor Sanders.

Speaker 11 (03:08:09):
It would be in.

Speaker 4 (03:08:11):
Man. This is.

Speaker 10 (03:08:15):
I couldn't even imagine being being Shad Door Sanders and
having to deal with this and just being upset and
what can you do the only thing that you can
do just allowed this to light a fire under you
to come out and just kind of blaze the league
once you are drafted. But please tell me that there's
no way he slide past the fourth round.

Speaker 4 (03:08:36):
Oh man, wow. Jalen Milroe ninety two overall to the
Seattle Seahawks. We are rolling through Day two of the
NFL Draft for a pick ninety three with the Saints.
Got about ten picks left. We'll update you on the
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Speaker 9 (03:09:23):
That's kind of how it grew up.

Speaker 4 (03:09:24):
Man.

Speaker 19 (03:09:24):
My father always told me that I'm better than a
man in front of me, and when the ball in
the air is mon so really just using my thighs
and physicality, you know, the dominate DB's on the edge.

Speaker 9 (03:09:33):
It's not even really.

Speaker 19 (03:09:33):
Fifty fifty balls in the economy, it's more ninety to ten.

Speaker 9 (03:09:37):
So really just we're not feel airs mind.

Speaker 19 (03:09:39):
So when it when it, when when.

Speaker 9 (03:09:41):
It goes up, I'm for sure to come down with it.

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and again our coverage begins again tomorrow at ten am.
So check in with us and it has happened. No,
not sure do where Sanders being drafted? Dylan Gabriel. So
we said right before the break bind that we thought
Dylan Gabriel was being drafted. We were a little bit early,
but not that much early. As it turns out, Dylan
Gabriel now drafted by the Cleveland Browns at pick ninety four. Hey,

(03:10:33):
do we have the podium we can.

Speaker 7 (03:10:38):
Doesn't sound like it. No, we had Milrow go at
ninety two. Is the Seahawks get there new Russell Wilson
and then you turn around. It's funny because that year
they paid free agent Matt Flynn to come in and
then Russell Wilson. Now you've got Jay Milroe and Sam Darnold.
Could be history repeat itself there in Seattle. But you know, yeah,
Dylan Gabriel at ninety four is ob sir, I don't
care what you think about you door Sanders' personality, lifestyle, whatever,

(03:11:00):
his daddy, he's got a big megaphone. This is that's bizarre.
You went and grabbed what is probably an.

Speaker 4 (03:11:05):
Undraftable quarterback and took him over several better options to
include in this particular case, Shador Sanders. That is bizarre
to me. You know what, man, this is getting like
at this point, if you're Chaudor, would you prefer not
to get drafted and then you could just pick his
goal undrafted one drafted be a udf do Like?

Speaker 7 (03:11:23):
What's to say that the tackle from a few years
ago that went to the cows Lao coluins, I believe Yeah,
Who's like, no, don't draft me, I'll come out to
your freeze and I'll pick my team.

Speaker 5 (03:11:31):
We'll come work it out from there.

Speaker 10 (03:11:33):
It sounds great, but I mean, Chador is a very
prideful person, and I know he in his camp, especially
his father, they're they're taking this really hard because, well,
let's be totally honest, guys, Like you said, man, no
matter what you think about Chador Sanders off the field,
you have to look at his ability and say that

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he is much better than the quarterbacks that are being
taken before him.

Speaker 11 (03:11:58):
And for me, I like, if there's any individuals and
any of the.

Speaker 10 (03:12:03):
Teams that were in need of a quarterback and they
felt as though drafting him would be like drafting his
father and they did not have the goal to put
up with what he could present. See, that's a problem
for me. That would tell me that those individuals are
not really confident in themselves. They're not really self assured

(03:12:24):
to know that a kid's father who played in the NFL,
and oh, by the.

Speaker 11 (03:12:28):
Way, it is a Hall of famer.

Speaker 10 (03:12:30):
Somehow, that bothers you to a point where you don't
think that you will be able to do your job
and coach him up and put him in a position
to be successful.

Speaker 11 (03:12:40):
To me that that's wild.

Speaker 10 (03:12:42):
I've never seen anything like this, and I know we've
seen guys allegedly fall over the years, but this is catastrophic.
And for me, this is not an indictment on Shadeorge
Sanders and who he is as a player.

Speaker 4 (03:12:57):
Ronald thinks should be that way either, but this reaction
that I don't think a lot.

Speaker 5 (03:13:02):
Of us could have even fathomed to be honest.

Speaker 4 (03:13:05):
I mean, there was like this like, well, you know,
maybe they're not as high on him as we are
here locally, Like I could have gotten into that, like again,
worst case scenario for me. And we talked about it, like, hey,
twenty one, you said right before the draft, you said,
I think it starts twenty one for him with the Steelers.
Maybe there's some trade back into the first round conversation

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for him, but he slipped.

Speaker 5 (03:13:31):
Potentially slipping out of Day two was just never on
my radar. I wasn't on mine. I mean, the the
evaluation was, you know, was Teddy Bridgewater. You know that
was the evaluation.

Speaker 7 (03:13:42):
And people like to say, well he went the first round,
Well yeah, but he didn't play like he went a
first round or right.

Speaker 5 (03:13:46):
The evaluation was Teddy Bridgewater.

Speaker 7 (03:13:48):
So I get that, and I get the concept of Okay,
do you really want the headache that comes with that,
you know, for a QB two on your roster initially?

Speaker 4 (03:13:55):
Do you really want all that?

Speaker 5 (03:13:56):
You know, it's the Tebow phenomenon, it you will.

Speaker 11 (03:13:59):
I get that.

Speaker 7 (03:14:00):
But at the same time, tacking guys who have less talent,
I don't.

Speaker 4 (03:14:05):
By the way, Falcons just took Savior Watts. It's could
pick there for the Falcons.

Speaker 5 (03:14:09):
I believe the Raiders are on the clock right now.

Speaker 7 (03:14:11):
There's gonna be something to watch for Shador here what
I will say, you know, and it sucks, and I
feel bad for him. I feel But the jokes are
hilarious right now, Like somebody was like, well, if he
goes back to Colorado, does he have to pick a
new number since they retired his. I mean, I'm just
the jokes are just. The jokes are brutal.

Speaker 4 (03:14:25):
The jokes are brutal. But again, and we all agree
with this, the calling him and pretending to be that
was called That was gross.

Speaker 7 (03:14:33):
Whoever did that, if you were within the sound of
my voice, that was gross.

Speaker 10 (03:14:36):
Tell me, guys, and as many years as you've been
covering the draft?

Speaker 11 (03:14:40):
Following the draft? Have you seen a more polarizing.

Speaker 10 (03:14:44):
Figure, a guy that besides, well that was different though,
that was a whole different thing. But when you look
at Shador, I guess I've never seen this many people
so happy about someone's else else is mit misfortune, And
for me, I think it says a lot about not

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about Shador, but it says a lot about our society
and where people are that we we some people relish
in someone else's disappointment, and to see that the text
messages the fact that someone called him pretending to be
a GM only to kind of make fun.

Speaker 11 (03:15:25):
Of the situation. But we have some very terrible people
out there.

Speaker 10 (03:15:29):
And and I'm not saying this just because it's Shador,
I would say this about anyone else who was in
this position, because think about the gentlemen that you spend
all your life looking to get to this point, right
this this moment, and then now it's just falling off
the tracks.

Speaker 4 (03:15:44):
Jared Wilson, by the way from Georgia Center or town
to Center. I wondered if the Broncos might be interested
in him if he got Hey, Patriots are having a
great draft.

Speaker 5 (03:15:52):
I mean, I can't. I can't hate him. Yeah, Jered
Wilson's a good pick. They did they did what's his
face wrong there? But but Mike Rabel is a is
a good good coach.

Speaker 4 (03:16:04):
Ma, yeah, you did it wrong.

Speaker 7 (03:16:06):
Oh yeah, but rabel is a good good assemble of talk.

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Speaker 5 (03:17:09):
We will get some of your text.

Speaker 4 (03:17:10):
Five sixty six nine zero reaction to what the Broncos
have done here on day two, we were just talking
about Shugor Standers, who is still still not gone. The
Raiders was back to back picks. They just took Caleb
Rodgers moments ago. We have four picks remaining in this round.
And then we're gonna hear from George Payton and Sean
Payton and their final thoughts. Again. The Broncos, they worked,

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they worked some trade backs early on, a couple of
trade backs in order to position themselves at pick sixty.
They came into the day at pick fifty one a
couple of trade backs. They ended up adding a fourth
rounder in the process. When everything is.

Speaker 5 (03:17:45):
Said and done and they are then they end up
selecting R. J.

Speaker 4 (03:17:50):
Harvey at pick sixty at a UCF Ben, I'll come
to you for just a second here. What did you
like about that pick? Well, he's a versatile back, you
can catch, he runs, he's fast.

Speaker 7 (03:18:02):
And I think, like you know, like I said earlier,
he's short, but he's not small. I mean he's he's
twenty pounds, twenty five pounds heavier than Jay Kwi McMillan.
You know, this is not the same back now, you know,
I think he I think he catches.

Speaker 5 (03:18:14):
Well limited opportunities.

Speaker 7 (03:18:15):
I think he's he's got an eye for the offense
because he's he was a quarterback up until he got
to college. You know, he was a he was a
dual threat quarterback up to that post. So he understands
the offense from a quarterbacks point of view, you know,
And I always like that. So I think he brings
a lot to the table the offense that he played
in a lot of RPO stuff. It's gonna be interesting
to see if we see any of that, you know,

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with with him and both this coming year.

Speaker 6 (03:18:38):
But I like to pick.

Speaker 11 (03:18:38):
I like r J.

Speaker 5 (03:18:39):
Harvey.

Speaker 4 (03:18:39):
Pick not with my my first choice, but.

Speaker 5 (03:18:41):
I like to pick. I liked it as well.

Speaker 4 (03:18:43):
And this note here from Chris Simms, and you know,
whatever you want to think about his rankings of things,
he said, r J. Harvey is one of the most
underrated superstar potential players in the league. Ankle breaker with
eighty yard touchdown ability. I had him as the number
three running back and he did. I remember that when
he put out his running back ranks.

Speaker 5 (03:19:03):
He had RJ.

Speaker 4 (03:19:03):
Harvey's the number three running back, where I think a
lot of people said, hey, Trevon Henderson, maybe you're talking
and I don't even know. I think Adam Marion Hampton
much later, but yeah, he had RJ. Harvey as his
number three running back.

Speaker 5 (03:19:15):
So take that for what it is.

Speaker 10 (03:19:17):
The one thing I love about R jre Harvey when
you watch him on film, even though he is short
and stature, he's still a wide body running back and
he runs with great balance. And when we look at
Ashton Genty, everyone just salivated over the yards after contact.

Speaker 11 (03:19:36):
I'm not saying RJ.

Speaker 10 (03:19:38):
Harvey is that type of guy, but he's shown at
times during the season that he can definitely be that guy.
He can run through arm tackles, and the whole idea
is getting him on the perimeter. That's where he does
the majority of his work because those tacklers they don't
know what to do with him out there on the
perimeter and he has so much space to actually work with.
But for me, is that lord leg drive, being able

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to take that contact and actually pile through guys and
run with a low center of gravity. I know that's
I guess harder easy to say for a guy who
isn't that tall, but you want to make sure that
your running backs have a center of gravity and they
don't go down on the first tackle.

Speaker 4 (03:20:17):
All right, So we knew the Broncos were gonna dress
running back, and at least for now, that is the
running back on the roster. Maybe they go and looking
day three for another running back, and then we get
to pick seventy four because the Broncos had traded up well.
As part of the trade back, they ended up moving
up in the third round, and they select Pat Bryant's
wide receiver out of Illinois.

Speaker 5 (03:20:37):
Some of the numbers are not eye popping.

Speaker 4 (03:20:40):
I think the biggest one that jumps out, and the
reason why I think a lot of people expected, including myself,
that he go day three is he had a four
to six one forty at the combine. But as we
have learned, he set a school record with ten touchdowns
this last year. Another team captain and I gotta say
we'll play it a little bit later on is the
interview with us on the phone was one of the

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more electric UH interviews we've ever had as far as
I'm concerned. UH in a U for a prospect being
drafted by the Broncos six to two hundred and four pounds.
What did you like about that pick?

Speaker 7 (03:21:11):
Ben Well, he embodies what Sean Payton looks for out
of receivers. He's these big body, bully type guys. You
know the interview got me, got me super charge there.
You know, he's been productive before. He has the Illinois
state school record for touchdowns, as you noted earlier, with
ten of them in the season he had but three
game winners. It's a guy the moment's not too big
clutch guy there. H The drop rate was very low,

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one of the one of the best catch rates in
in NCAA football this past year. You know, I think
that it embodies what Sean Payton looks for in these receivers.
And the problem is you get you know, you get
your your fans out there that are looking at these
big names and all this other stuff. But that's not
how Sean Payton has typically constructed the roster when it
comes to these wide receivers. And so I go back

(03:21:52):
to to saying the same thing. If you you know,
you talked about loving the guy, you type about.

Speaker 5 (03:21:55):
Loving the coach, and he's he's genius and all this
kind of stuff.

Speaker 7 (03:21:57):
Well, you gotta let him be, you know, you gotta
let him create the thing and do it his way.
You gotta him get his own ingredients. He cook the
cake his way, and that's what he's doing.

Speaker 10 (03:22:05):
The one thing I love about They'll pick with Pat Bryan. Obviously, again,
this wasn't a guy that was on everyone's radar. But
when you when you watch him play, to me, he
will fit right into the layered offense that I think
Sean is going to run.

Speaker 11 (03:22:19):
Because you have to figure it.

Speaker 10 (03:22:20):
Evan Ingram is going to be somewhere either down in
the middle or somewhere in the flat.

Speaker 11 (03:22:24):
You got a guy who could work underneath.

Speaker 10 (03:22:26):
And once again, I know I mentioned earlier Ryan that
I look at him as being a possession receiver and
that may sound like a negative, backhanded comment, but being
able to be a guy that can find a soft
spot in his zone and can continue to extend the drives.

Speaker 11 (03:22:41):
That's very important. The Broncos was able to do it
last year.

Speaker 4 (03:22:44):
The Broncos just traded back into the third round. They
trade with the Eagles for pick one. Oh one, What
are we doing here?

Speaker 5 (03:22:54):
All right?

Speaker 4 (03:22:54):
So the Broncos are back on the clock forty undreds.
You're selecting at one hundred. What are we doing here?

Speaker 11 (03:23:02):
You know what they're doing. You're trying to get some
more draft cabin.

Speaker 4 (03:23:06):
I gotta see this some more talent, all right? So okay,
hold on, I know the Broncos received one on one
and one thirty four as a fourth rounder from Philadelphia, Uh,
for one eleven, one thirty and one ninety one. So
they traded their two fourths and a sixth for a

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third and a fourth. Okay, So they got one on one.
So trained back into the third round and they added
one thirty four okay, and then then again one eleven,
one thirty Ben, what do you think waiting.

Speaker 5 (03:23:45):
On a pick here? I don't know yet.

Speaker 7 (03:23:47):
I was just getting the the stuff on the deal
the same way you were. Yeah, Broncos gave it one eleven,
one thirty one ninety one for one on one, one
thirty four. So however you look at that, you know
they did give up a pick to do this. But
there's certainly somebody here they feel, in my guess would
be Gunner Helm. I don't know for a fact just yet,
I'm waiting on uh, waiting on the pick. But that

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would be my guess, that'd be a good one right now.
You know, that feels like that shores up just about
everything and then you could look at luxury picks on
on the next day. Maybe a defensive lineman here. But
you know, the Helm feels like the way unless unless
you want to go back for another receiver. Maybe there's
maybe there's something else there.

Speaker 4 (03:24:24):
Well, Alik A. Mayner is out there still, and I'm
still surprised by that.

Speaker 7 (03:24:28):
There's a there's a few names out there that do
so there's there's there are some you know, there are
some opportunities there. But yeah, I just uh, that is
fascinating the trade back in I thought they were done
for the if like that, I mean you're talking about
the last two picks here of the.

Speaker 5 (03:24:46):
Third round, Sadan Jones.

Speaker 4 (03:24:48):
Oh okay, I'm into it. Save me on Jones defensive
end l s U. All right, so no gunnor Helm
who maybe they will have a chance to add later,
but all right, we're going for a defensive end. Well

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they knew they we'd go eventually go some defensive linemen
at some point. This was a projected So for all
the people that have been killing the Broncos taking guys
that are supposed to go much later. This guy was
expected to go third round. So six and eighty pounds, okay,
So defensive line, it was defensive line. It was you

(03:25:31):
called it? All right, Nick, I'll come to you first, man,
What do you think of the pick?

Speaker 10 (03:25:35):
I like the pick because when you look at the draft,
the Broncos are checking up all the boxes of need.

Speaker 11 (03:25:42):
And when you talk about being able.

Speaker 10 (03:25:44):
To be more physical at the point of attag the
Broncos were not that at certain points of last season.

Speaker 11 (03:25:52):
And bring in a guy in of this size, it
gives them size.

Speaker 10 (03:25:55):
But also give them somewhat of a nastiness to kind
of go with guy like guy like Zach Allen. So
just looking at it on the surface, I like it.
I want to dig into it just a little more.

Speaker 4 (03:26:08):
What do you think, Ben?

Speaker 19 (03:26:09):
Uh? You know?

Speaker 7 (03:26:10):
I mean, they we've talked about that defensive line depth
that they know they needed. You know, we've talked about that.
So I believe that that's a good pick and addressing
in need. Maybe they feel like they can get Gunner
Helm here on on Day three that'll round out this
draft class.

Speaker 5 (03:26:22):
So I'm liking the liking the pick.

Speaker 4 (03:26:25):
No, I really like the pick as well. Like I said,
it's a he's a four to three defensive end. Uh
known to be tough. It's a physical guy. I'm I'm
trying to look looking for more information and see if
he's a team captain, because honestly, that's that's been the
a team captain, that's been the.

Speaker 5 (03:26:43):
Way they've approached this.

Speaker 4 (03:26:44):
But yeah, the Broncos trade back into the third round
a guy they obviously didn't think that they could wait
on until the beginning of the fourth round tomorrow morning,
and they select save On Jones out of LSU.

Speaker 5 (03:26:56):
So we'll we'll get some information on him. We'll also
I get a chance to talk to.

Speaker 4 (03:27:00):
Him her second because again we were kind of getting
to the tail end of the of the day two picks.
I don't know, man, you got it three players here
on Day two. You got a total four.

Speaker 34 (03:27:12):
Eagles have traded the one hundred and first pick to
the Denver Broncos. With the one hundred and first pick
in the twenty twenty five NFL Draft, the Denver Broncos
select save On Jones, defensive end LSU.

Speaker 24 (03:27:29):
I mean.

Speaker 4 (03:27:31):
Big, all right, there you go, hit four and a
half sacks last year. I think he had eight TFLs.
Trying to look up some more stats on him for
just a second here. So there he goes a guy
that they didn't think they would be able to get
to at the beginning of the fourth round.

Speaker 5 (03:27:49):
For some reason, they felt like they needed to get
him right here. Ben Yeah, big body guy, two hundred
and eighty pounds.

Speaker 4 (03:27:55):
I don't know that I would necessarily call him an
edge as much as I would call him a defensive
end of thirty four. You know, he's not the He's
not the guy you're putting out there where Nick Benito
and John Cooper play. You see, he plays more of the.

Speaker 7 (03:28:06):
John Franklin Myers uh and Zach Allen role.

Speaker 4 (03:28:10):
You know, we we saw in the Super Bowl. How
you know, the Broncos saw.

Speaker 7 (03:28:13):
That that that you have to have an upfront, big body,
beefy guys that you can send in.

Speaker 5 (03:28:17):
Wave to tire that offensive line out.

Speaker 9 (03:28:20):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (03:28:20):
We know that advance Joseph wants to do that, have
those linebackers be able to shoot the gaps.

Speaker 5 (03:28:23):
And I think this is a guy that fits right
in with that.

Speaker 11 (03:28:26):
The one thing I would like to see him work
better with is his hands.

Speaker 10 (03:28:29):
When when you are past rushing, whether you're on the
edge or you're you're working as a three technique, you
have to be able to use your hands. But when
you look at him, he likes to use a lot
of his power and at some point when he faces
good interior alignement, they're just gonna sit on it right,
And you have to be able to get those guys
hands off you here. You know, edge rushers and interior

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guys talk about a cross shop. You got to have
a verse two of hand movements because it's violent when
you on that deedless of line and you have to
use that to be able to penetrate. But the Broncos
add someone on the D line. Let's just see how
things work out. So once again, I don't know Ryan,
you and Ben tell me, I mean, you didn't have
him high on your board, did you.

Speaker 4 (03:29:14):
I thought he's a day too guy like I mean,
I I remember, you know, started checking him out because
I knew that the Broncos would eventually be looking at
D line. He mentioned a JFM that that's kind of
the you're you're you're thinking in terms of bringing in
some guys that I mean, because you decided not to
give him an extension, Right, do you think about bringing
in some guys some competition here? Uh, D line just
felt like something they were going to continue to do.

(03:29:35):
I think that for him, there's the belief that that
he's got another level, right that you're you're thinking in okay,
like we can we can bring him in.

Speaker 24 (03:29:43):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (03:29:43):
Certainly has some some good productivity in sec when you
get him into the building, you get him with your coaches,
you know, maybe you can develop him a bit more as.

Speaker 13 (03:29:52):
A pass rusher.

Speaker 4 (03:29:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (03:29:54):
I mean again, I think he's more of that that
that five tech than anything else. I don't you know
people listing him as an edge rusher. Savian Jones is
not an edge rusher. Saman On Jones the defensive line.
He's a big body defensive lineman that's there to tie
up blockers and get up field. Again, similar to the
way that you see, you know, Zach Allen or John
Franklin Myers play. So I I you know, I think

(03:30:17):
this is something they need. They needed a little bit
another reserve back there. Obviously got to pay Allen coming up.
You got Franklin Myers looking for a contract.

Speaker 11 (03:30:23):
You just pay DJ.

Speaker 4 (03:30:24):
You need one more body there, you know, in the
pipeline of case you can't pay everybody, I think it's
a good pick.

Speaker 5 (03:30:29):
So the Day two of the NFL Draft has concluded.

Speaker 4 (03:30:33):
We're gonna be hearing from George Peyton and Sean Payton
here in just a matter of moments, as you can
hear them checking some mics in the background. So we'll
hear them from George and Seawan, who suddenly jumped up
into the end of the third round. He selected a
defensive end there out of LSU and Saveon Jones. Not
a team captain at least in what I'm seeing here,

(03:30:56):
but again a guy that plays a lot. He started
thirteen games in each of the last two seasons. There's
a four he's been at LSU these entire time. So
that's another thing that we're seeing as a trend with
these players is they got several years in school, and
a lot of them several years the same school, which

(03:31:16):
I'm kind of noticing as well.

Speaker 7 (03:31:18):
Yeah, three sports stand up back in high school, football, basketball,
track and field.

Speaker 4 (03:31:22):
So physical.

Speaker 7 (03:31:25):
One of the big things about him is his big
wings span bat balls down at the line of scrimmage,
So that'll be something to keep your eye on there.

Speaker 5 (03:31:30):
Maybe ride you a little bit of somebody we know, Shelby.

Speaker 4 (03:31:32):
Harris eighty two and three eighth wings span.

Speaker 7 (03:31:36):
Yeah, that'll do it. Bat the ball down at the
line of scrimmage. There, get the wingspan to do it.

Speaker 4 (03:31:40):
It's got tree trunks for arms.

Speaker 5 (03:31:42):
I like that, all right.

Speaker 4 (03:31:44):
So we'll get some more information on Save Jones, maybe
have a chance to check in with him. Of course,
the Broncos are getting ready to have their end of
day two press conference with George Peyton and Sean Payton.
They're going to address us and talk to talk to
us about R J. Harvey, Pat Bryan and now save
Ian Jones.

Speaker 7 (03:32:01):
So three players here officially Shide or Sanders not selected
on Day two of the NFL Draft.

Speaker 4 (03:32:07):
Not something I thought we'd get into. I did not
think that was going to happen. The Raiders had two
picks at ninety eight ninety nine. They went both offensive tackles.

Speaker 7 (03:32:16):
Hey, tomorrow, you got the Colts there within the first
fifteen picks. That's probably the one to keep.

Speaker 5 (03:32:20):
Your eye on.

Speaker 4 (03:32:22):
It makes a lot of sense, right, I mean, you
just think about what you know, options you have. If
for some reason, Anthony Richardson continues to regress, or if
he just ends up not being the.

Speaker 5 (03:32:31):
Guy Daniel Jones being the one works out. You got
a body right there.

Speaker 11 (03:32:33):
So here's the question. If that doesn't happen, it's just
like when.

Speaker 7 (03:32:38):
Well at that point, if we should do or do
you pull a Lao Collins and say, don't draft me.
I'd rather just have the option of talking people afterwards.

Speaker 11 (03:32:44):
Well, here's the thing. If he were to do that,
most people will say, okay, well this one entitlement. There
you go. This is the reason that you, you know,
slid this.

Speaker 10 (03:32:50):
Far in the first place, because you felt as though
you were better than the league. So it's unfortunate for
him to find himself in this situation. But I'm happy
for the guys at the Broncos. Elected can't wait for
these guys to get in here so we can really
get lay eyes on them and see exactly who and
what they're made of. So but for me, the still
of the draft so far is definitely a surprising guy.

(03:33:12):
And Pat Bryant, you like that, huh, yeah, I like that. Yeah,
I gotta be fired. I mean, we want to put
the pads on right now. Ryan, you're hid and hide
a step heads back there, trap him off, Ryan, I mean,
did he did he not kind of like electrify you
in that moment, just just talking to him, just hearing
his passion and how he loves the game. And when
we talk about guys in their makeup, it's all about character, right,

(03:33:34):
what do those guys have as far as character is concerned,
And he show a lot of it, just just kind
of speaking truth to power about where he is, why
he loves the game, and what he's willing to do
when he comes in. So for me, I can't wait
to see what the makeup of the wide receiver room
is going to look like once he steps in the
door as a young.

Speaker 11 (03:33:51):
Guy speaking the way that he's speaking.

Speaker 10 (03:33:54):
Hopefully, I hope he takes that that same, you know
challenge when he walks into that room, not trying to
cowerdn to someone, because when rookies come in, it's always.

Speaker 11 (03:34:02):
Like you need to be seen not heard.

Speaker 7 (03:34:04):
The one thing I will say about the Pat Bryant
thing is I think he's got to bring an edge
to the wide receiver room.

Speaker 5 (03:34:10):
That we don't have.

Speaker 7 (03:34:10):
Like the one thing about those guys, like all those
guys to death, but the one thing about that, I
think he's going to bring an edge.

Speaker 5 (03:34:14):
They may not have, man say what you.

Speaker 10 (03:34:16):
Want to say about the main sandals, but you know
you had that reach dog in him and you can
see the way he ran his routes to the way
that he blocked. So the Broncos definitely need that type
of grit inside that wide receiver room.

Speaker 4 (03:34:28):
And I love that.

Speaker 7 (03:34:29):
I love that part about it, so that that's that's
a plus ad no doubt about it.

Speaker 11 (03:34:32):
All.

Speaker 4 (03:34:33):
Right, Well, here we go. The Broncos have select three
players here on day two and yeah, you said it
right there. I mean with with Pat Bryant, there was
other receivers that I think a lot of people expected
to go off the boarder at that point.

Speaker 5 (03:34:45):
But I'm excited to see what to Sean Payton's going
to do with him.

Speaker 4 (03:34:47):
And again, you draft the guy for not only this
on field production, but also with personality in the locker room.
And I can imagine when they had a chance to
meet him that there was just this like holy cow,
just sort of bowled over by the guy, and and
that part of that that is part of the process.
And you know, the pre draft process, I think sometimes
we focus a lot on the exos and nose because

(03:35:08):
we're not in those meetings and we had a chance
to talk to Savid Jones yet. But I will say this,
two of the three guys they've drafted so far, you
got them on the phone, you got the chance to
talk to him, and you're sitting there like, oh my,
Baron and uh and and and Pat.

Speaker 11 (03:35:20):
You know what, for me, I look at it this way.

Speaker 10 (03:35:23):
I can't wait to see Baron and Pat Bryant actually
go through it in one on once. Right when when
we listen to their their post game, uh, their post
pressors when they were talking about loving the game of football,
we just saw the energy that just kind of resonated
from the phone. But to watch these guys actually compete, see,
that's going to really drive things a big time. Absolutely

(03:35:45):
two competitive guys.

Speaker 4 (03:35:46):
Yeah. Well, and again you're at it, you're out and compete.
I mean, it's a wide receiver room that Sean Payton
has said multiple times how much he really loves it
and that he does not feel like it's getting rated
appropriately by some in the media and some of the fans.
We knew they would probably add to it, just didn't
really know when and where exactly. But here on day
two they took this, uh, they took Pat Bryant, and

(03:36:10):
like I said, I thought that, you know, we read
the report from a Big ten journalist who said he
had three game winners, three game winners last year, he
set a school record at ten touchdowns. I mean, those
are those are the kind of game closing plays that
you're looking for.

Speaker 10 (03:36:25):
Is is it safe to look at this Broncos, this
particular draft and say that this was kind of a
blue collar draft for.

Speaker 4 (03:36:31):
The Yeah, yeah, I like that. I like that. And
and I mean you're not you're talking about partly with captains,
and you're also talking about yeah, work ethic kind of players.
I mean RJ. Harvey absolutely, I mean he just goes
to work. Certainly put with Pat Bryant. That that is
in that conversation, and I mean just the mentality of Baron.
I mean today, bar you just have a conversation with

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him and you get a sense they.

Speaker 5 (03:36:53):
Just put together man like that guy.

Speaker 4 (03:36:54):
That guy's got a plan, he's got a plan for
how to get there, he's got goals. You know, that
was that was impressive. Pat Bryant a guy who's you know,
no no block, no Rock right there.

Speaker 7 (03:37:03):
You know, you know you love that RJ talking about
you know how he can't wait to get there, hit
the ground running and with that speed, we know it'll
be fast. And now we got save On Jones. I
mean he's a heavy handed defensive end. He's gonna be
he's gonna be a lot of fun to watch.

Speaker 11 (03:37:14):
You know, with with with Pat Brian and what he said,
they'll block no Rock.

Speaker 13 (03:37:19):
I know.

Speaker 11 (03:37:19):
I know somewhere Alex Gibbs is looking down saying, you
know what, that's my type.

Speaker 5 (03:37:24):
That's my guy.

Speaker 11 (03:37:25):
That's my type of guy.

Speaker 10 (03:37:27):
He's going to sacrifice his stats to make sure someone
else actually has the glory.

Speaker 11 (03:37:33):
Tell me when when do you often see a wide receiver?

Speaker 19 (03:37:36):
Right?

Speaker 10 (03:37:37):
The guys who are considered to be Prima Donna's think
about blocking to set up someone else.

Speaker 4 (03:37:42):
I just want all the wide receivers. I listened to
this rock Now, don't know that that's from you. That
is not a statement from me. That is a statement
from you as a defensive back.

Speaker 11 (03:37:50):
Yeah, well, Premia.

Speaker 10 (03:37:51):
Donna's, we know that's that's I don't want to generalize,
but we do know certain wide receivers are Prima Donna's
it's not actors though, we don't know that right. Once again,
how many wide receivers would be willing?

Speaker 4 (03:38:02):
Did you say that to Jerry Rice's face? Guys, I'll
block so you can get the ball.

Speaker 21 (03:38:07):
You can't.

Speaker 5 (03:38:07):
Can't call me a diva anymore, I believe when.

Speaker 11 (03:38:11):
I see it.

Speaker 4 (03:38:11):
Yeah, it was right. Yeah, you you a blocker.

Speaker 5 (03:38:14):
Everybody knows that about You'll make it.

Speaker 4 (03:38:16):
I'll make the attet. I'm a willing blocker, willingly or
the Luther burd and a speed bump.

Speaker 5 (03:38:25):
I might block.

Speaker 10 (03:38:26):
I might just kind of get into guys, I'll make
it look like it. You know, it'll be better than Julius. Well,
but you know what we call that type of blocking.
We call that brother in law.

Speaker 5 (03:38:35):
Yeah, we just we just get there just to get
the test blocking. I mean, look at the investment so far,
and especially here in the draft.

Speaker 4 (03:38:46):
Right you go cornerback, you got two offensive players with
your next two picks in skill position players running back
and wide receiver, and then you go d M.

Speaker 5 (03:38:54):
What was that sort of painting a picture for you?

Speaker 4 (03:38:55):
Right now?

Speaker 5 (03:38:56):
With the Broncos, at least their early approach to this draft.

Speaker 7 (03:38:58):
They got the best player available in Day one they
went after need on day two, and that's where we
still have the tight end position to be addressed.

Speaker 5 (03:39:05):
I'll probably going to be addressed day three.

Speaker 7 (03:39:06):
But as it sits right now, it looks like they
went bp A you know, right off the top, they
played the game in terms of shuffling the draft picks
to be able to get the maneuver where they wanted to,
and they came away with with the positions we said
they were going to come away with outside of tight.

Speaker 4 (03:39:19):
End right well, and then again we talked even about
defensive end or d D line, talking about D line
for a while. Yeah, so that they'd be they'd be
looking at that. And it's not even just so much
of a hedge against the guys that are on one
year contracts. I think it's just a good position you
continue to add to. And again that the boarder keeps
seeing with Savian Jones is physical and that's that's the

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thing that a physicality got those long arms. Certainly still
needs to be developed as a pass rusher, but again
I think you know, you take a guy sort of
that that has college experience in the SEC and you
give him an opportunity to sort of sort of build
up here on the pro level.

Speaker 9 (03:39:54):
You know what.

Speaker 10 (03:39:55):
He goes back to a conversation you and I had
about a week ago when we were talking about ceiling
versus his floor, right, and obviously in the first round,
you you're drafting a guy with a high ceiling.

Speaker 11 (03:40:05):
In this case, you're drafting a guy with the high floor.

Speaker 4 (03:40:08):
All right, here comes George and Sean and they're going
to be speaking with the media and giving us their thoughts.
At the end of Day two of the NFL Draft,
here we go.

Speaker 35 (03:40:17):
We had two trade backs, and we almost had three.

Speaker 9 (03:40:20):
But now it was a good day.

Speaker 13 (03:40:22):
Happy to take your place for a couple first and
also drafted an LSU player. Finally it was it was yeah,
I would say, man, George and all the guys handling the.

Speaker 27 (03:40:42):
Trade values, which is not easy in a short period
of time, were awesome.

Speaker 4 (03:40:51):
Here we go, Oh yeah, Chris Thomas in Denver? Is
that George?

Speaker 5 (03:40:56):
Just talk about getting Harvey?

Speaker 13 (03:40:58):
What do you like about him?

Speaker 4 (03:40:59):
And what was why'd you trade down maybe twice in
the second round before you took him.

Speaker 35 (03:41:06):
Yeah, it's always a risk when you trade back, you know.
And we felt good about the teams behind us. Maybe
they already took it back or they didn't. It wasn't
a big need, wasn't their top need, and so we
took the risk. We didn't want to lose him, obviously,
but we felt like moving back would set the tone
for the day, would give us flexibility to do what
we wanted to do for.

Speaker 9 (03:41:24):
The day, and it did.

Speaker 35 (03:41:26):
In Harvey, this was kind of our pet cat throughout
the process. His running style, we feel he's dynamic. He
has really good vision, really good instincts, really good contact balance,
highly explosive. You know, we thought maybe you had the
best vision in the draft, and you see the plus tens.

Speaker 4 (03:41:44):
I think he leads.

Speaker 35 (03:41:45):
You know, we let everyone with plus ten runs home
run ability. We feel like he can prove in the
past game. He wasn't featured there, but we were really
like this back.

Speaker 4 (03:41:56):
For Sean. What do you see from Pat Brian in
terms of receipt? Where does he fit into your offense?

Speaker 13 (03:42:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 27 (03:42:02):
So look early on they come in and they compete
in the rotation. We always talk about who's the reminder.
We try to find comps and he but there were
so many things about his game that reminded me of

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Mike Thomas and with respect to Mike who became I mean,
holy cow, you know you don't ever want to put
pressure on a rookie like that. We're just talking about traits,
but really explosive off the line of scrimmage, very competitive,
very tough. And again, you know we mentioned this yesterday.
Periodically you have more insight maybe on a certain player.

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Jim Leonard worked at Illinois the year before we hired him,
and so Jim had insight as to the makeup toughness.
And I really think, you know, the body of work
and all the additional film study, but his his his
size and his hands are outstanding.

Speaker 13 (03:43:11):
His competes.

Speaker 27 (03:43:13):
I don't know how many you know critical. He was
just that player that excelled at crunch time. I mean
he I think a walk off a couple of these
big plays. Obviously he's physical and and so, but the

(03:43:36):
the player comp For me, it reminded me forget the
jersey number, just of a lot of traits that Mike hat,
especially at the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 16 (03:43:47):
George, you talked last week about sort of setting the
you know, framework on trades, are talking to teams in
the lead up, but when you have you knowth Carolina,
I mean four picks on each side. How does a
trade like that come together? Starting to press timeline? And
then also, did you know when you made that trade
that perhaps Detroit also was, you know, looking to come
up a few spots.

Speaker 4 (03:44:07):
We knew, you know, it's not just me doing the trades.

Speaker 35 (03:44:10):
You know, Richard Toddo and Cody and Reed and all
our guys were on the phones. We're constantly on the phones,
and so you know, with that one, it took a
little bit, and you know, we're just working through it
and trying to get creative.

Speaker 4 (03:44:21):
And yet it was important for us to move.

Speaker 35 (03:44:24):
Up in both the rounds, you know, move back a
little bit, move up in the third, move up in
the fourth, you know, because we're looking ahead, like you know,
we wanted to get back. There was three players we
wanted today and so it was really important and we
talked about it really all week. There are four players
we wanted in the first two days and we didn't
get all the players, but pretty close. And so, yeah,
they happened on the clock, but the framework happens before

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and a lot of these trades, and especially with the
Carolina one.

Speaker 27 (03:44:49):
I think the second element George alluded to was real
important that's the Detroit element and you sit there and
each of those teams in between were rock solid at
running back. So the risk you run isn't necessarily with
the in between teams. It's the potential team that may
come in between. But it's certainly paid off.

Speaker 36 (03:45:13):
Coaching George Cheer left with with Jones, what made you
want to go back into the third round to get him?
And then his pressures this past year jumped away up
from the last two years. How confident are you that
he's going to continue that sort of development, that upward trajectory.

Speaker 35 (03:45:28):
He kind of fits our mold defensive line, you know,
with the size sixty six two eighty, we feel like
he can continue to grow in that role. He'll play
you know, d end for us, but he has flexibility
down the line of scrimmage. This guy's long, he's strong,
plays with really good leverage, and then he's improving as
a rusher and you could see that throughout the season.
Then when you got to the Senior Bowl, we thought

(03:45:48):
he had a really good week and played really good
in the game, and so he's just going to keep
getting better. You know, Jamar Kaines coached him. You know,
so again we had insight on the on he on
him and like we did some of the others, and
I think that sticks out with him is just how
hard he plays the motor. I mean, he goes one
hundred and ten miles per hour every play, and so
he fits in with our group and you know, he

(03:46:09):
had a little time to develop as well as he
has some good guys.

Speaker 4 (03:46:12):
In front of him.

Speaker 27 (03:46:13):
The interesting thing was, you know, you're always hoping in
each draft you have that loan magnet. He he was
kind of that loan magnet. Where we sat and we're like, wow,
you know.

Speaker 4 (03:46:29):
I think that.

Speaker 13 (03:46:31):
Both George and I felt like.

Speaker 27 (03:46:34):
Fourteen picks earlier, that was going to be a hard
one to get, Like, we just felt like that player
was going to come up the board, and.

Speaker 13 (03:46:45):
Fortunately for us, you know, he was there.

Speaker 9 (03:46:47):
Still.

Speaker 4 (03:46:49):
You mentioned r J maybe not necessarily featured in the
passing game. How do you try to kind of project
where that can go.

Speaker 27 (03:46:55):
Well, the very first thing you see, all right, the
very first thing you see in the evaluation is his
running ability. I heard comps to Darren Sprolls. Look, it's
always difficult when when you look at height and weight.
I had a chance to coach Darren and Darren was
an exceptional receiver out of the backfield, but when he

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came out of Kansas State, he was an exceptional runner.
And so contact balance vision vision that this player's again,
we had a day. I can't recall how many days back,
but call it two hours of every carry, every catch,
and look he Some offenses in college don't necessarily feature

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the halfback a lot in the passing game. It's oftentimes
when they get to the NFL, they're used maybe a
little differently, and it might just be style of play, right,
but when when you look at the running skill set,
it was it was wow. And you know, explosive runs,

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all of those things, and.

Speaker 13 (03:48:11):
Yeah, I mean it.

Speaker 27 (03:48:12):
So then you begin to study the passing game stuff
and he's got soft hands, you know, he does a
lot of those things. Well you get to see that
maybe more in the pro day than you do on
the film, just because of the offense. So he was
you know, in the early part of this process. Man,

(03:48:35):
everyone had seen the skill set of Genti and he's
a fabulous player. And then you're all right, if that's unrealistic,
which obviously where he was selected, everyone knew we were
hoping to get it back. Man, where where are we
fallen in love with with somebody? And you really try

(03:48:56):
to just go through each one with an open mind.
And and I can remember the afternoon. I can't remember
what afternoon, but I can remember the two hours on
this player, and then it was like, all right, be quiet,
let's just.

Speaker 5 (03:49:12):
So And that was hard.

Speaker 27 (03:49:18):
There's some players maybe that are easier to project.

Speaker 13 (03:49:21):
When they get selected. Some are more difficult.

Speaker 27 (03:49:25):
I think he was going to be tricky as to
you know, historically speaking end up two third round. It
just takes one other, one other team. You know, when
we drafted Kamara in the third round, he split time.
He was actually the for ball carrier, not the primary

(03:49:48):
ball carrier, and so it had a grade on them.
But like when theyre when I think it was a
week ago, someone put his name in an article as
a riser and it was like, you know, you don't
want to read that, but he was explosive.

Speaker 4 (03:50:06):
Fana Crystal from Guerrilla Sports, and I guess it's kind
of for both of you. But I'm curious because the
comment and here was the first trade especially, was that's
a George Peyton trade. As he's on the phone and
making these moves up and back. What's it like for
you sitting there now in the third draft as you're
seeing George two.

Speaker 13 (03:50:22):
Well, we had a moment here.

Speaker 27 (03:50:23):
I thought it was planned, and so we felt, and
we said this yesterday, we felt there was a man
a good middle part of this draft that was consistent,
meaning you know, in the second round or the third round,
you're going to find good players even into the fourth.
And so when we when we made the first trade back,

(03:50:44):
then George makes an announcement to the draft room that
that was my first official trade back and I and
I thought he planned it, but it was actually pretty spontaneous,
and so that was that was funny, and I was man,
I was glad we were able to do it. And
uh no, I think finding the sweet spot of the draft.

(03:51:07):
We talked about it last night and trying to maximize
being in that field, if you will, if that makes
any sense. Sometimes it's easier to do and then sometimes
it's more difficult to do. Clearly, Day one was you know,
everyone was wanting to move back. There weren't a lot

(03:51:29):
of teams wanting to move up. I don't know how
I mean today there there were I don't. I mean,
there were a lot of trades today, and you know,
you study the teams that have playoff, teams that have
ten picks, you know aren't probably going to pick ten players.

Speaker 13 (03:51:49):
So there's there's a lot of a lot that goes
into it.

Speaker 27 (03:51:54):
But he was he was fantastic and h and we
just we just kept looking at the targeted You know,
you have to have more than just four targeted players, obviously,
but there's a vision and a makeup mindset, and you
guys will have a chance to if you haven't already talked,
talk with them, and that I think permeates this this

(03:52:20):
first two days.

Speaker 37 (03:52:22):
Yeah, my cliss nine news, this is off Broncos. But
the buzz of the drafters who hasn't been drafted, that's Shador.
You guys you know went to the Pro day, got
to know him a little bit. Just wondering your thoughts
on why he hasn't been drafted in any any thoughts.

Speaker 27 (03:52:39):
I listen, we sat there, I watched right behind him
throwing and watching the receivers. He had an outstanding Pro day.
This thing is surprising. It's it's there's nothing that ever
takes place during this period of time that surprises you.

Speaker 13 (03:53:03):
Last year, you know, we had a plan B, you.

Speaker 27 (03:53:08):
Know, quarterback, and shoot, we thought second round and he went,
I am. I think we all are surprised, and yet
the talent.

Speaker 13 (03:53:20):
Holy cow. I mean, I think.

Speaker 27 (03:53:25):
You would if you're a team that needs a quarterback,
and I don't. I mean, we kind of know at
the start of the draft who those teams are. But
you're getting now again, I saw him when he was
in junior high and then I saw him when he
was in high school, and then I saw him when
he was a sophomore in high school come practice on

(03:53:47):
their way to Florida. And so I've had a chance.
I've known Dion and I felt like I grew up
watching him play and he's he's he's gonna like there'll
be this chip on his shoulder and and and beware

(03:54:08):
because this guy's going to play in this league.

Speaker 5 (03:54:09):
And but I don't.

Speaker 27 (03:54:12):
I think it's hard for any of us to explain
what other people are looking for. We focus on what
we're looking for. And yeah, I mean, I think it's
it's surprising.

Speaker 38 (03:54:28):
Andrew Mason Denver Sports Sean. Three of your four picks
so far, they were team captains. So leadership traits. How
does that fit into your scouting and also your vision
for these players?

Speaker 5 (03:54:40):
The leadership traits, I.

Speaker 13 (03:54:42):
Think sometimes I don't I don't know that.

Speaker 27 (03:54:46):
I think if I look down there and studied that
they were team captains. But I think we do spend
a lot of time on the football makeup and the
mental makeup, what kind of teammates they are, Are they intelligent.
There's a lot that goes into that, and it's probably

(03:55:07):
one of the more challenging things. You know, the area
of scouts go out and they get exposure. Now it's
hard for the area scout to really really narrow down
how quickly someone learns. You know, they'll at the school,
they'll they'll give them you know, like an A learn
a B learned, and then then we take that information

(03:55:30):
and we try to dive into it more.

Speaker 13 (03:55:33):
But no, it's not an accident that.

Speaker 5 (03:55:37):
That these are.

Speaker 27 (03:55:40):
That these are these type of players. And I think, look,
we talk about it all the time. Our locker room's
counting on this. Now there's a responsibility we have with
each selection to bring them like minded players that plan
on winning and are used to competing and have that
football DNA And it's this is a difficult league, and.

Speaker 13 (03:56:05):
If you don't have it, it challenges.

Speaker 4 (03:56:07):
You quick for both of you.

Speaker 39 (03:56:10):
Just a sort of a general evaluation question on a
player like Harvey, how do you sort of walk the
line between maybe asking him to catch some more passes
on pro day but not look too interested.

Speaker 35 (03:56:24):
Well, I think he just he just ran the normal
you know route tree at his pro day, the combine,
and you can see it, you know, his ability to
get in and out, his ability.

Speaker 4 (03:56:33):
To catch you can see as instincts. You know, in
the past game.

Speaker 35 (03:56:37):
Many had a lot of big plays in the past game,
but you just don't see all the routes, and you
could see those at the pro day. And and we
think he can keep going like this, you know, and
and and really in past protection he can improve as well,
like all you know these college runners.

Speaker 27 (03:56:50):
He the pro day that they have, they're running that
they may use some pro coaches, and we watch now
different then oh, we're going to have a private workout,
Like he's the last one we would have wanted to
have a private workout with. So but early in the

(03:57:10):
film evaluation, George said, man, he's going to catch like
four or five of these rail routes that are you know, yeah,
you see it. So these guys all all of them
compete in the offense. They're in no different than any player.
And then you do have to expand the vision as
to how they would fit doing some other things. And

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to the credit of the coaches there and some of
these other programs, they they try to give you all
the stuff that you might want to see.

Speaker 4 (03:57:40):
And and that was that was good?

Speaker 9 (03:57:45):
All right, thank you?

Speaker 4 (03:57:46):
All right, Oh there you go? Was any comments from
head coach Sean Payton and general manager George Peyton following
Day two of the NFL Draft. We will obviously have
a play time to react to all of that, and
we're gonna check in with savi on Jones here in
just a matter of moments. Grain, would you like to
take a quick break? How do you want to do this?

(03:58:10):
All right, we'll wait here for just a second because
we're gonna get Savon Jones on the phone, and then
we will take a break here as we're overdue. First. Yeah, okay,
they're gonna they're gonna the media scrum first. Yeah, leave,
So why don't we all right, let's take a very
quick break here, Grant, just for a few minutes because
they're gonna do a media scrum, uh with him and
before they get him on with us. So you're listening

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Speaker 27 (03:58:56):
They'll be this chip on his shoulder and beware because
this guy's going to play in this league and it's
hard for any of us to explain what other people
are looking for. We focused on what we're looking for,
and yeah, I mean, I think it's it's surprising, all right.

Speaker 4 (03:59:16):
Those are the comments from Sean Payton as he was
talking about Shore Sanders. We're going to be kind of
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Savian Jones right in front of us. So we're gonna
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common spirits and yeah, I mean it's been it's been
an action packed day here for the Broncos, selecting three
players R J. Harvey, Pat Bryant, and Savian Jones. Like
I said, who we're gonna speak to out of LSU,
we'll get into some final thoughts of the day and
what's ahead. The Broncos still have a fourth rounder one

(03:59:57):
point thirty four. I believe then they have two s rounders,
and I think that's it. I think that's that's kind
of where where there are main only one sixth rounder.
Now that uh that was might've been part of that
trade to get back into the third round. So I'm
gona I'm gonna check in on that, Ben, But you know,
so far, I'm just general thoughts of what they've done today.
I thought it was a pretty good, pretty good day.

Speaker 7 (04:00:16):
I thought they played the draft pretty well in terms
of moving up, moving back. I thought they they positioned
themselves nicely. And you know, Sean payge Eve talked about
there was kind of a fat area of the draft.
I think they positioned themselves nicely for it. I think
they came away after getting a BPA of Day one
best player Available. I think on day two, they filled needs.
You know, I think they got the running back, the receiver,

(04:00:37):
and the defensive line. I think you still need a
tight end an offensive line then, but I think that's
that's all you really need. And you've got enough picks
to be able to move around to adjust to that.

Speaker 4 (04:00:44):
Yeah, what I'm looking at right now is they have
two picks remaining. They have pick one thirty four and
pick one ninety seven. This is what they have remaining.

Speaker 10 (04:00:52):
But for me, guys, they executed a great strategy of
moving back in and gratting players who they want.

Speaker 11 (04:01:00):
So it's excellent game of hokey pokey.

Speaker 10 (04:01:02):
If you ask me, you put your right foot in,
you put your right foot out, you shake it all about, right,
isn't that how the game goes?

Speaker 4 (04:01:09):
What is with you and the mcgiver stuff?

Speaker 7 (04:01:11):
What's the hockey pokey have to do with mcguivers?

Speaker 4 (04:01:14):
Is just randomness, just absolutely randomness.

Speaker 11 (04:01:16):
I said nothing about mcguiver.

Speaker 5 (04:01:18):
It's just all random.

Speaker 4 (04:01:19):
It's random references.

Speaker 11 (04:01:20):
I'm talking about hokey pokey. You bringing up my.

Speaker 5 (04:01:24):
Random skating rink as a child.

Speaker 11 (04:01:26):
No I did not.

Speaker 5 (04:01:27):
Oh I feel sorry. Yeah, I don't know how to experience.

Speaker 4 (04:01:32):
No, I was dodging the weird guy with the mustache,
the weird glasses.

Speaker 11 (04:01:40):
He talks about the guy.

Speaker 5 (04:01:43):
Is the best.

Speaker 4 (04:01:44):
Oh my god, they're talking about himself.

Speaker 10 (04:01:47):
They're talking about some guy in the parking line with
a conversion.

Speaker 5 (04:01:49):
Of talking about the guy in the bed.

Speaker 7 (04:01:50):
He's sitting there with the mustache's sitting really weird it.
You know you can't stay away from that guy. You
played the video the turtle.

Speaker 5 (04:01:55):
Video game over there.

Speaker 4 (04:01:56):
You wouldn't skate it for a while.

Speaker 5 (04:01:59):
You never went to a skate you know what I'm
talking about.

Speaker 10 (04:02:02):
I've got I have no idea what you're talking about.

Speaker 31 (04:02:06):
That.

Speaker 4 (04:02:06):
Sure you don't. I'm sure you don't. Your Bob told
you nothing. Go anywhere near that guy.

Speaker 5 (04:02:10):
You know exactly what I'm talking about, away from get pizza.

Speaker 4 (04:02:13):
If he comes over here, you come find me.

Speaker 5 (04:02:15):
I went to a.

Speaker 4 (04:02:16):
Skating rink one time, to a skating so it's all
lie and I got pushed down by some rent. No,
there's no shep.

Speaker 5 (04:02:31):
I mean you're just gonna give it to me Jones.
You guys think you're you're having fun.

Speaker 9 (04:02:35):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (04:02:36):
We we'll get into what best remaining here for day
three is we'll start a broadcast tomorrow at ten a m.
But right now we're gonna head out to the hotline
and bring on saving On Jones, one of the newest
Denver Broncos saved out. Thank you so much for the time, Man, congratulations.
What was it like receiving that phone call from the
Denver Broncos just a little bit ago.

Speaker 9 (04:02:56):
Well, first think, I mean, thanks for having me on
the show. Man got pretty and it's a blessing of
being in this position I am right now. But I
mean receiving that phone call was just felt like every
kid's dream, you know, you know, their dream to being
an NFL And I felt like the phone call right
there was when my dream was answer, my dream became
a reality. And then I mean not from there. It's

(04:03:18):
a dream that I made, but it's a dream that
I want to continue to have. And I mean, I'm
just here to do my best work.

Speaker 10 (04:03:26):
There's something really interesting about your your profile. You were
a three sport athletes. Now, how did all of those
three sports help you translate those skills to get to
this point now?

Speaker 9 (04:03:40):
I mean I feel like when it comes to track
until just just being able to have those those type
of those types you know, The main thing I used
to work on was my get off, and of course
not get off football wise, but get all track wise,
which helps correlate to football. When it comes to basketball.
I mean, if you're in the if you're in a

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lusive basketball player, I feel like that translates to the field,
especially that defensive end position, because I mean, being able
to have good, good footwork in basketball means you have
good forwork in football too.

Speaker 5 (04:04:15):
So you're a loser.

Speaker 4 (04:04:16):
Had a kid through and through.

Speaker 7 (04:04:17):
I believe you came up there, you know, been down
the South to your whole life a little bit more
humid than it is out here.

Speaker 4 (04:04:22):
Have you ever been out the Colorado before?

Speaker 11 (04:04:25):
Man?

Speaker 9 (04:04:25):
I mean, actually I've never been out there before.

Speaker 4 (04:04:28):
I mean.

Speaker 9 (04:04:30):
The first I've been most recently was Seattle, and I
mean I don't think it was that bad as what
is gonna be in Denver. But I mean I'm kind
of used to our weather. You know, in Louisiana is
almost never a good day. It's either really hot or
really cold. So I mean i feel like I'm ready.

Speaker 5 (04:04:47):
All well, I'll tell you this.

Speaker 7 (04:04:48):
The weather's temperate, but it's it's very very dry, So
load up on some chapstick. I come from Arkansas, I
know how it is out here, and you gotta get
used to that elevation.

Speaker 9 (04:04:57):
All right, I'm gonna keep down in the back of
my mind.

Speaker 4 (04:05:00):
God, I got good advice. I say. One of the
things that I noticed here is you had twenty seven
straight starts to finish your LSU career, and that I
mean that right there. I mean, the availability is one
of the best abilities in this game. What would you
sort of credit that ability to stay on the field
and produce this just a high level.

Speaker 9 (04:05:22):
I mean one of the main things is just the
staff we had. I mean the staff we had that
was amazing and along with the facility, it was top notch.
And just the resources that LSU gave us. I mean
that's one of the main things. And I mean the
other thing is just me going out there to seek
out those resources. Tell with my body, you know. I
feel like I feel like when you've become a pro,

(04:05:44):
that's something that's a lot of things that most pro
work on. And I felt like I found out early
that I need to start working on that.

Speaker 10 (04:05:50):
Now. Of course, I have to ask you this question
because when we look at every prospect, every prospect has
all these great things to say about how they love
the game. But one thing I'm going to ask you
about the art of competition. Now, if I were to
ask you to give me your definition of competitiveness as

(04:06:11):
you describing yourself, how would you frame that out?

Speaker 9 (04:06:17):
I mean, I feel like it's a quite simple answer, actually,
and I see competition that's iron sharpened and iron I mean,
it could be the one of the best. Like, Okay,
for example, you know, I went against Will, she was
a top five pick. I went against him every single
day and practice, and I felt like that was one
of the main reasons I was able to elevate my
game to the next level. And while also she was

(04:06:38):
also able to get better throughout the season of just
us going against each other repeatedly.

Speaker 7 (04:06:44):
Well, I just gotta stole my question there, because I
was gonna be like, what was it like going up
against Will every day? And does he owe you a
portion of his signing bonus for having a you know,
prepped him for being a top four pick there.

Speaker 5 (04:06:54):
Of the NFL.

Speaker 9 (04:06:56):
I mean, I ain't gonna bring it up to him,
but you know, maybe just.

Speaker 4 (04:07:02):
Well, hey man, we.

Speaker 7 (04:07:04):
Were really thrilled to have you got a long litty
of LSU defensive ends making it in the NFL. SU
defensive lineman make it the NFL. How do you stack
up with that history of LSU defensive lineman.

Speaker 9 (04:07:14):
I mean, just knowing that that that history behind me,
and about the d lines that went from LSU to
the NFL and how they been playing a lot of
years there. I just feel like I would say it's
a bad tip of my shoulder, but I feel like
it's a really good tip of my shoulder. Just to
know that that, you know, I have a standards of
hell up upfold at LSU and I want to be

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able to do that.

Speaker 4 (04:07:37):
Well. Savey On, we are really thrilled that you were
a drafted by the Broncos tonight and we can't wait
to meet you when you come out here to Denver.
Thank you so much for the time, man, congratulations, Thank
you all right, Saveon Jones will react to that coming
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Speaker 9 (04:08:40):
The being a sedition. I am right now, but I mean,
receiving that phone calls just felt like every kid's dream,
you know, you know, their dream of being an NFL
And I felt like the phone call right day was
when my dream was hand and my dream became reality.
It's a dream that I made, but it's a dream
that I want to continue to have. And I mean,
I'm just kid us doing my best work.

Speaker 4 (04:09:02):
Great comments there from Savion Jones. As the Broncos have
wrapped up in the NFL has wrapped up Day two
of the twenty twenty five NFL Draft. Welcome back. We
are live for Broncos Park, powered by Common Spirit, Ryan Edwards,
Benjamin Albright, Nick Ferguson and we're on till eleven o'clock.
Opportunity for you to react to the Day two picks
and as well as some of the other storylines including

(04:09:24):
Sheeorg Sanders sliding out of Day two of the draft
will definitely be another topic we're going to be tracking
tomorrow as we start our broadcast at ten a m.
Again from Broncos Park, Power by Common Spirit. But Savion
Jones there, Ben just for a second, as we're going
to react to that. I mean, I thought that man,
the more I look into him, the more more I

(04:09:46):
like him, love his attitude there on the on the
phone call. You know. Then another guy that uh and
with all due respect to you know in r J,
who was a little nervous when he was when he
was talking. These guys sound put together. They sound polished.
They sound like guys with the with the plan. They
sound like guys who are highly intelligent football individuals.

Speaker 7 (04:10:03):
And you know, he sounds like somebody's eager to get
to work. You know, it's gonna be an interesting adjustment
for him. I just you know, he's a Lousiana kid.

Speaker 11 (04:10:10):
Through and through.

Speaker 7 (04:10:10):
He came up in Lousiana his whole life, and it's
gonna be an interesting adjustment coming out here to you know,
the altitude and the dry.

Speaker 5 (04:10:18):
But you know, hey, people can make that adjustment.

Speaker 7 (04:10:20):
I know, our own Nick Ferguson, you know, was at
sea level out there in Miami and came on out
here and made that adjustment.

Speaker 10 (04:10:24):
You know what, It was funny that you mentioned it
to him, and you guys were talking about chapstick and
I was waiting for you to moisturize.

Speaker 11 (04:10:31):
Well, yeah, I was waiting for.

Speaker 10 (04:10:32):
You to actually say the word right, because if Louisiana
is hot, it is humid, it's sticky. But I was
waiting for you to say the word altitude because that's
the difference maker right there. Give me hot and sticky,
Keep that damn altitude right, and he's going to figure
that out once he once he gets here. Yeah, but
once again, here's another great guy that you get opportunity

(04:10:54):
to talk to, and you see how he loves the
game of football, but you also see the other element
of him.

Speaker 4 (04:11:01):
You know.

Speaker 11 (04:11:01):
That's why I wanted to ask him, what does competition
mean to you?

Speaker 5 (04:11:06):
Question two?

Speaker 11 (04:11:07):
Because once again, that's exactly what you're coming into.

Speaker 10 (04:11:11):
All these prospects have to look at this like I'm
walking in to take a job right now. It depends
on the person who's holding the job right now, are
they going to retain that? But the art of competition
makes everyone better. And what he said is something that
I've heard advance Joseph say time and time again, whether

(04:11:32):
he was head coach, hears it could being a defensive
coordinator with the Arizona Car News, you know, man sharpers,
man like iron shoppers iron, And that's exactly what you
need to do. That's how you drive out the best
competition in every single player.

Speaker 7 (04:11:46):
I know I made a comparison to to Shelby Harris
because the bad of balls, all the bad of balls.
But really, you watch it, you watch the highlight reels there,
you don't get this John Frankly my watch the motor
You're watching John Frankly Myers all over again.

Speaker 4 (04:11:57):
Honestly feels like exactly like that. The Broncos treated a
whole series of clips on him, and I'm sitting there
watching like this is jail fam dude. You know so
this this is uh, like I said, not not really.
I know, for whatever reason, it was positioned as an
edge rusher by some people when the pick was made,
but he's more of an interior defensive lineman.

Speaker 5 (04:12:13):
Who's got some some extra adalyticism.

Speaker 7 (04:12:15):
You know, Jonn Franckton Myers could have played the end
to write defensive end of a forty three. He's playing
in the end of the thirty four a little bit,
a little bit of a different position technique.

Speaker 5 (04:12:21):
But you know, this guy looks like he's got that
kind of versatility too well.

Speaker 38 (04:12:25):
I know.

Speaker 4 (04:12:25):
And what I feel like I've learned today is that
Nick Ferguson would prefer hot and sticky.

Speaker 5 (04:12:30):
Wouldn't we all?

Speaker 11 (04:12:32):
Is that a song? That's a that's a that's a song,
isn't it? Paul some sugar? Okay, let me not start.

Speaker 4 (04:12:39):
No, that's right, I keep going.

Speaker 5 (04:12:41):
I'm sure pat and strong.

Speaker 4 (04:12:44):
And I was about to ask if he was down
to get the fridge on. Dude.

Speaker 10 (04:12:48):
I almost said that, almost said, buddy did through me?
I actually I didn't say it aloud. I wanted to,
but in my head, and I looked at Sean, I
was like.

Speaker 4 (04:13:00):
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five six six nine zero. This one the running back
pick I was a little baffled, never heard of him,

(04:13:21):
but I'm warming up to the pick after missing out
on the top backs. He looks like he'll be a
good fit. Yeah, well, listen, I mean, I I understand.
I mean, you know, you look at sometimes the media
coverage of players, and you know, the top names get
a lot of run, They get a lot of discussion.
Ashton Janney's gonna get a lot of discussion on Marion

(04:13:42):
Hampton's getting a lot of discussion the Ohio State running backs.
But RJ. Harvey is the name you you definitely should
know and and I know we were very excited about
r J.

Speaker 5 (04:13:50):
Harvey.

Speaker 4 (04:13:50):
I'm sure some of the other media members who I
don't know are looking for reasons to take shots didn't
love the pick as much. But I like Seawn's point
that he made about how they thought actually was. George said,
there's one of the best running backs with vision in
the NFL draft.

Speaker 5 (04:14:04):
One of those things that it's difficult to teach.

Speaker 7 (04:14:07):
You know, by the time you get finished with college,
if you don't have the vision, you're probably not You're
probably not gonna get it.

Speaker 5 (04:14:11):
I've seen a few guys develop it.

Speaker 7 (04:14:12):
I think one guy to me that developed it, uh,
sort of by accident. Was it was Michael Pittman, you
know when you watched him in Tampa when that in
that offense back in the day, team was out running
blocks and you know, and all this kind of stuff,
and his father time slowed him down a little bit.
He started to feel it out.

Speaker 4 (04:14:29):
Get the vision, you know, to be able to make
that stuff and let the patience, let the blocks set up.
All right.

Speaker 5 (04:14:33):
R J's got the vision already. It's it's good. Then
he's lightning in a bottle.

Speaker 4 (04:14:36):
He's fast.

Speaker 5 (04:14:36):
I mean, he's a real fast you know the question.

Speaker 7 (04:14:39):
I think at the end of the day. The one
thing that bugs me a little bit about the descriptors
people are.

Speaker 5 (04:14:43):
Calling him small. He's not small. He's short.

Speaker 4 (04:14:45):
Uh, he's small.

Speaker 7 (04:14:46):
There's a different ju Wale's McLoughlin is small. He's you know,
he's not small. Yeah, wells mcgloffin by twenty five pounds,
you know. I mean this is he's a thick built dude.
He's just five eight, and so that's that sort of thing.
He's gonna be hard to tackle.

Speaker 4 (04:14:58):
I mean a five eight, it's gonna be hard to
tackle to get you know, get low on him.

Speaker 10 (04:15:01):
So see, that's that's easy for individuals to say who
have never faced a guy who may be like five ten,
two hundred and five pounds and watch that wrecking ball
of an individual come down heel on you. Here's what
I'll say about something you know Coach Payton mentioned and
I would have those detractors go back and watch. You

(04:15:23):
remember when the CU Buffs went down to Florida to
play UCF, and all you have to do is watch
some of that game.

Speaker 11 (04:15:30):
You can see some of his explosiveness.

Speaker 10 (04:15:33):
And there was a play and Sean talked about it
and my eyes lit up, like, well, we watched the
same thing. The rail route getting him outside on the
edge and being able to track the ball. That's something
that's that's a that's very difficult for wide receivers, but
for back to kind of run that rail route and
be able to track the ball, catch the ball and then.

Speaker 11 (04:15:54):
Get vertical, that's the thing of beauty.

Speaker 10 (04:15:56):
But it's telling me so much about what's going on
in Sh'S head and how this Broncos offense is going
to look like years buzz light years different from what
it was last year.

Speaker 5 (04:16:09):
You like that, Ryan, Nope, who's in this scenario.

Speaker 4 (04:16:18):
This one of the trades didn't really make sense to me.
We ended up losing a pick in the process. After
trading back twice, we have two more picks. Hope there's
at least one great splashy pick. Well, you're in the
day three, so it's tough to say you'll get something splashy.

Speaker 9 (04:16:30):
Though.

Speaker 5 (04:16:31):
Again we'll get into some of the players that are
still on the.

Speaker 4 (04:16:33):
Board, and again at gunner Helm would be an example
of here of a player that I'm pretty excited. I
think Jalen Knowles still out there too, which I think
is kind of wild.

Speaker 5 (04:16:41):
But anyways, yes, two more picks, that's what I mean.
That's what I meant.

Speaker 1 (04:16:48):
So yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (04:16:50):
Think the process when the two trade backs, you ended
up batting and forth, which I which I was very excited.
But then you use that pick in this trade back
into the third round. And you know, this is the
thing that with Sean Payton they've done now twice. Remember
they did that the very first year with Sean Payton,
and they ended up getting Riley Moss trade back into
the third round. And that was one where I want
to say they actually use a future of third in

(04:17:12):
order to do that because they didn't have the requis
in draft capital to be able to make that move here.
They actually had traded back added capitol in order to
go get save on Jones. Yeah, they played the game
pretty well, moving up, moving back, and you know, right
in the elevator as at.

Speaker 7 (04:17:25):
Order to make it to where you need to do,
you set yourself up with better picks. You move forward
one hundred picks earlier, you know, to set yourself up
to be able to move up or back with that
last six round pick, and you'll have the opportunity to
be able to to be able to get some guys.

Speaker 4 (04:17:40):
You know, in this coming day.

Speaker 7 (04:17:42):
I think there's guys out there we've talked about, like
Gunner Heelm, who you know, of course was coaching high
school bar Own, Dave Logan, You've got an Oroonde gadsd
in the second still out there as well. There's certainly
a couple of guys there and then an offensive lineman.
You probably need to add another body to that room
as well. Wouldn't be surprised to see if Texas State's
Nash Jones was that guy. Whether it's a draft pick

(04:18:02):
or a priority undrafted free agent is.

Speaker 10 (04:18:05):
There a wild thing about drafts every single year, and
if you were to be allowed to go upstairs and
look at the team's board, obviously there's still a lot
of valuable players still on the board, and a lot
of those guys based on the number of trades that
have taken place from the first round to now, it
has pushed so many valuable guys down further than we

(04:18:27):
thought they would be selected. But what that means is
that after the draft is over, the Broncos are going
to be on the phone right now. I'm sure their
scouts are definitely tracking those guys who they look at
as high free agents that they want to sign and
based on positional specific makeup, and we're going to see
a lot of those guys come in. But it's unfortunate

(04:18:47):
that those guys who had earned ability to be drafted
will not be drafted five.

Speaker 5 (04:18:52):
Six, six, ninety zero.

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This is the Kowave Broncos Radio Network. His running style,
we feel these dynamic. He has a really good vision,
really good instincts, really good contact balance, highly explosive. You know,
we thought maybe at the best vision in the.

Speaker 35 (04:19:51):
Draft, you know when he let everyone with plus ten
runs home run ability. We feel like he can prove
in the past game. He wasn't featured there, but we were.

Speaker 4 (04:20:00):
I really like this back. That's George Payton speaking with
the media just a little bit ago on RJ.

Speaker 5 (04:20:06):
Harvey.

Speaker 4 (04:20:07):
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Looking forward to it. It's gonna be a lot of fun.
A couple of texts here, I did see this one.
Do we get Dylan Samson in the fourth? They could
go running back again, I guess, but I don't think

(04:20:47):
you're gonna do that now that you've got RJ.

Speaker 5 (04:20:49):
Harvey.

Speaker 7 (04:20:49):
Yeah, I think I think that, you know, you might
look around to add a veteran name to the room
at this point. I wouldn't be surprised, and you know,
bear with me, I'm not trying to break some news here.

Speaker 5 (04:21:00):
Thrown out a suggestion.

Speaker 24 (04:21:01):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (04:21:01):
Previously we talked about JK. Dobbins, and that was because
of the pass catching ability. At this point, with the
makeup of the room, I think I might look to
add a Nick Chubb.

Speaker 5 (04:21:09):
A little bit of a difference like that.

Speaker 7 (04:21:11):
See if there's anything in the tank, a little bit
of a bigger body, uh, certainly a work ethic guy
or you know Shelby Harris just raved about.

Speaker 5 (04:21:18):
Him and his work ethic. You know that that might
be the thing.

Speaker 7 (04:21:22):
Maybe pass on the rest of these rookies and add
a veteran to that room, a guy like Nick Chubb,
who can who can play a little bit of power,
uh and and compliment that skill set.

Speaker 4 (04:21:29):
Yeah, I feel like you need a little bit of
a backup there to addric estimate. Yeah, you know, that's
that's kind of what you're because right now you've got
you got some receiving backs, you got some some lighter,
speedier backs.

Speaker 5 (04:21:38):
And they're very excited about r. J.

Speaker 4 (04:21:40):
Harvey, But he's not built to withstand three down back
work at the pro level. I mean, we'll see. I mean,
he's got he's got a lot of mileage already on him.

Speaker 5 (04:21:49):
It's gonna say he's got you know, he's got work.
Is a three on back in college in college UF, Yeah, but.

Speaker 7 (04:21:55):
I mean they played they played some pretty tough defense.
I mean, you know, end of the day, I just
think that you want, you know, you want a veteran
voice in that room. And I feel like that's kind
of the guy that that sits out there, that seems obvious.

Speaker 5 (04:22:07):
Let's see here, what do you guys think about Devin Neil,
I mean, like Devin Neil.

Speaker 4 (04:22:12):
Yeah, there's plenty of backs out there. Look, I just
think that I think you've got you definitely need a
tight end, you know, to add to the room. And
whether that's a gun or helm or a you know,
Ronna Gadsden, both those both those players have connections here,
you know, or someone else. It could be someone else,
but I both those guys are guys that that I
kind of have.

Speaker 6 (04:22:29):
By on all right.

Speaker 4 (04:22:30):
As into this is from Keith and Orlando as individual picks,
I think we've done very well. Baron and Harvey will
be a plus picks. I think Brian and Jones will
be guys that fit the scheme they play in. Fans
may be disappointed, but that's only because they expected something different.
I'm excited about these guys and they're fit. I think
that's perfectly sad Keith, honestly, and I'm not just saying
that because it agrees with my sentiment. As well. But

(04:22:52):
I think that because the name recognition and oftentimes that
that is part of this, right, I mean, i'd see
and we get to this on day three, it's like, well,
there's guys that I know, and I'll be honest, there
will be guys when we get to the sixth and
the seventh round that have like, all right, I want
to look that guy up. You know, I made like
briefly scanned the name, but I will I won't even

(04:23:13):
pretend that I've I have two hundred and seventy players
basically categorized in my brain that I could sit there
and just say, oh, absolutely, like I know who Saban
Jones is. Of course he plays for the last year.
You don't you about that. But even Pat Bryant Bryan.

Speaker 7 (04:23:27):
That was the one today, Like we get in the
weeds on some of these and like Pat Bryant was one.
I was like, well, I really break the tape down
to Pat. I know, you know who Pat Bryan is.

Speaker 4 (04:23:33):
But like I didn't really break the tape on Pam
Bryan from Illinois, not one that.

Speaker 5 (04:23:37):
Was on the radar.

Speaker 4 (04:23:38):
That was so like, you know, I had to go
back and look at that a little bit and you know,
the one thing I will say about him is.

Speaker 7 (04:23:43):
You know, that's a guy that the moment's never too big.
He's re lobble. He's got to me. He's gonna remind
you Tim Patrick. You know, he's a a gritty wide receiver,
doesn't drop anything. He'll make big plays. He's got that
big catch radius and all that kind of stuff. Long strider.
You know, I think he reminds you more Tim Patrick.
And I think he's gonna endear himself from that way.

Speaker 4 (04:24:00):
Sean said, it reminded him as far as traits go
to Michael Thomas be a little effusive in the praise there,
but I get where he's coming from. But you know
how Sean is right, I mean he he has types, yeah, right,
and he's got a type and and he you know,
said with with de von Vay later mind Marcus Colson,
and it's just it's funny with Sean, it's like you
kind of know that, and and he didn't want to

(04:24:21):
say r J. Harvey was darren Sprolls, but he didn't
not want to say it either. So it's kind of
it's kind of funny listening to Sean. And when you
see that the draft picks, you see the players they
end up selecting, then you kind of go, okay, well,
I can see where he's looking at this guy. And
as we're watching the long stride there from Pat Bryant,
some of the highlights here as we're during the draft,

(04:24:43):
that was the first thing I thought. I'm like, I'm
sure he looked at him and said, boy, I can
run some slants with this guy. And he's going to
spam the slant. Yeah, and he's got a massive catch
radius and and he's gonna fall forward and he's gonna
just get it. Be a yak guy. And yeah, once
again that there's a type. There's certainly a type. So
if Pat Bryant ends up being a good receiver for

(04:25:04):
Sean Payton, and once again he has found guys at
every single level of the draft.

Speaker 5 (04:25:09):
Talked about it before.

Speaker 4 (04:25:09):
Marcus Coulson was a seventh round pick and ended up
being a stud wide receiver one for many.

Speaker 5 (04:25:14):
Many years out there with the Saints.

Speaker 4 (04:25:16):
I do think that sometimes when you have that kind
of success, especially later in the draft, you think you
can recreate that. You're like, I found this guy in
the seventh round. I found Alvin Kamara in the third round.
So I know what I'm looking for with these guys,
and we don't have to take one of these dudes
in the first round. Okay, fine, fine, yes, but over
the history of the draft, Alvin Kamaro's don't show up

(04:25:40):
that late. It's just the same thing if the Tom
Brady's don't show up in the sixth round, or even
Russell Wilson when you know, obviously when he was good
third round and Dak Prescott. I mean, like they're they're
not the rule. They're exceptions, right, you.

Speaker 7 (04:25:55):
Count you don't count on waiting until the sixth round
to get, you know, a great quarterback or anything. If
if it were that easy, everybody would do it. That's
why it's so exceptional that Tom Brady did it. So
I think, you know, I think at the end of
the day, I think, you know that I like this
draft class. I think they're addressing need. They got a
blue chip player and Baron, they're dressing some need. I'm
excited about Harvey, who is a very good running back.

(04:26:18):
I think that you know, with saviing On Jones, you
got a guy who's probably a replacement for John Franklin Myers,
you know, for me. The Pat Bryant thing has the
question mark on it, But I want to see the vision.
I'll see the guy on the field. You know, we
were all laughing about the Devon Vele thing last year.
This guy's like a thirty year old receiver or whatever,
and then he goes out on balls out in camp.
So you know, give that give that vision a chance
to you know, to be there, Give it.

Speaker 5 (04:26:39):
An opportunity to before we criticize.

Speaker 4 (04:26:40):
Yeah, there was there was a lot of frustration and
hand ringing out there on social media and people say,
f draft and I can't believe you didn't take this guy,
and it's like, hey, man.

Speaker 5 (04:26:49):
You know I had other guys.

Speaker 4 (04:26:51):
You and other guys. There were certainly other players in
the range that I would have been pretty excited about
because I've done a lot of work on those players.
But once again, it's not my draft. It's our job
to start to analyze it after the fact, and that's what.

Speaker 5 (04:27:03):
We're trying to do this one. Listen, this is for Ryan.

Speaker 4 (04:27:08):
Was the girl that pushed you down at the skating
rink a big kindergartener. Okay, first of all, they said
it was a girl that he was not a girl.
It was a boy, right, And I was there with
my babysitter who took us because I had never skated before.
She was like, we'll go, you'll learn, and it did
not go so well. Yeah, Tiffany can be a boy's
name too. Guys apparently just such a jerk. All right,

(04:27:32):
we'll get to more of your text reaction five six
six nine zero. If you have any questions, not only
about what the Broncos have done, maybe some of the fits,
also what's gonna happen on day three. We'll get some
of those as well. And again we're starting tomorrow at
ten am. We're at all sorts of really cool content
and Rick Lewis is going to join us on set
here at Broncos Park, Power by Common Spirit. We got

(04:27:52):
Brad Williams on the show. We're gonna be able to
talk to him a little bit. He's a super Broncos fan.
We'll get the comedian, we'll get his thoughts on what
the Broncos have done so far.

Speaker 5 (04:28:02):
We're going to hear the interviews. If you missed any
of them, they're already up.

Speaker 4 (04:28:05):
Because Grant is the man at Kocolorado dot com or
on the iHeartRadio app with r. J. Harvey, The Sabon
in a interview will be up shortly and then Pat
Bryan that Bat Bryan interview. That's a good interview.

Speaker 7 (04:28:18):
Man, My goodness, it gets one of those guys gets
you fired up.

Speaker 4 (04:28:21):
It's it's always fun to talk to guys like that,
whether they turn out to be something or not.

Speaker 7 (04:28:24):
I mean, one of the guys that always strike me
is that Drew Locke. Was that dude, man, Yeah, when
you see I want to sit there at the Senior
Bowl just sitting down there in the in the hallway,
they're talking to him. I sat there, talked to him
for probably thirty five minutes, and man, I swear to god,
you got done with that conversation.

Speaker 4 (04:28:36):
You want to, like, let's go play right now. You know,
he's just one of them dudes, and so like I
like having those guys on the team.

Speaker 5 (04:28:41):
They make it.

Speaker 4 (04:28:41):
They make football fun one hundred percent. So we'll come back,
we'll get to more of your reaction again. Relying from
Broncos Park, powered by Common Spirit, and you're listening to
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Speaker 1 (04:29:06):
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Speaker 4 (04:29:18):
H Right, Welcome back to Broncos Park Power by Common Spirits,
Ryan Edwards, Benjamin Albright until eleven o'clock. It's been a
fun day to here, and says we've been broadcasting live
and again will podcast everything up there, including our interviews
with moments Ago save Ion Jones as well as Pat Bryant.
Early on we talked about that interview r. J. Harvey

(04:29:40):
and that exclusive interview that Dave Logan had with Barren
the first round pick, yep, the first round pick for
the Denver Broncos, to sit down with him. That was
really really cool as well. Just a really fun day
out here for the Broncos. I don't know, somebody's asking
us a little bit about our grade for the draft
so far. I think it's sort of tough because it's

(04:30:01):
a little bit incomplete. You want to see the rest
of what they put together. So for example, if they
get gunner Helm tomorrow, I'm gonna feel I'm gonna feel
better than I do right now.

Speaker 5 (04:30:09):
And I feel good about the draft right now.

Speaker 4 (04:30:11):
I feel like they've got some some players that are
not only going to improve the depth, but you got
some some long options here in several spots on your roster.
But I don't feel like.

Speaker 7 (04:30:23):
We have the complete picture of what they're trying to
put together just yet. Yeah, I wouldn't know how to
great guys that hadn't at the field yet. Like I
wouldn't even know how to do that. I would say
that I can see the vision sort of, you know,
and this is playing out more or less how we've
been talking about it for a few months that they
we knew that they were gonna come into this thing.
They needed a slot corner, they needed a running back,
need a defensive line, probably gonna grab a receiver, and

(04:30:46):
then probably gonna grab an offensive lineman. So as we
sit here and we look at this thing, I mean,
they've they've pretty much checked the boxes tight end. The
offensive linemen have not done yet, but we expect those
to get done.

Speaker 5 (04:30:56):
I don't. I don't I don't know how to I
don't know how to grade that.

Speaker 7 (04:31:00):
Say mission accomplished in terms of coming in and get
what you want, and as far as each of these
players I've intrigued so far, even the one that I
was most questionable about, which would have been Pat Bryant.
After hearing the interview, I got the message, Okay, I
see you're you're adding grit to the receiver room. You're
you're adding a guy that's that's that's chippy. You got
an edge to the receiving room.

Speaker 4 (04:31:18):
I get it.

Speaker 7 (04:31:18):
I see the vision, so you know, I don't know
how to grade that, but I would say, I see
what it is they're trying to do.

Speaker 4 (04:31:24):
On the Ka Commas Spirit Health text line five six
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Speaker 5 (04:31:30):
I don't know if I go there. Yeah, but but
I again long strider and.

Speaker 9 (04:31:36):
The speed.

Speaker 5 (04:31:36):
I mean, Drake London is faster and Patrick is the one.

Speaker 4 (04:31:40):
But the catch radius is there and I get I
I he won't he won't be faster right than he
is already a four to six one. But I think,
once again, what you're asking him to do, that's that's
really what it is. Is you just need, you want,
you want some possession receivers. I mean that that's kind
of what it feels like, right, And he's a possession
receiver and Ingram's possession guy. You didn't really have a

(04:32:02):
lot of that last year. There were some moments.

Speaker 5 (04:32:03):
I mean, Von Vaile was there, he was kind of
your guy.

Speaker 4 (04:32:07):
I mean Courtland sun Times was kind of that guy.
But it just wasn't consistent enough in your rotation to
have as many players out there that could do that.

Speaker 7 (04:32:15):
Yeah, I mean, and look, Courtland's a guy that may
or may not be here that much longer. You know,
so if that's the case, you need another body like that.
You know, you gotta have val A. But beyond that,
what if the leg gets hurt. You know, you cracked
ribs last year, so you got to you know, you
need to add to that room in any which way
that you that you look at it.

Speaker 4 (04:32:35):
Let's seear Rjie really reminds me of Phillip Lindsay with
better hands.

Speaker 5 (04:32:39):
Maybe maybe. I mean, I guess I think he's a
little stock here.

Speaker 4 (04:32:43):
But I guess yea, it's not like Philip Lindsay was
just super light, But I guess they're kind of in
that same range. Once again, I think that the mindset
there is is RJ RJ has more upside, some belief
as a guy that can catch passes, didn't didn't do.

Speaker 5 (04:33:00):
It a ton in college, even though I asked.

Speaker 4 (04:33:02):
Him about it. I actually because I were basically the
times I've watched him, and including that CU game where
he caught the rail route, I thought that he had
plus hands. But again, it's not something that they did
a ton there at UCF. I wouldn't compare it to
Phil Lindsay.

Speaker 5 (04:33:18):
Phil was.

Speaker 4 (04:33:20):
Phil was twenty five pounds lighter, thirty thirty pounds later
than R. J.

Speaker 5 (04:33:24):
Harvey here.

Speaker 4 (04:33:24):
So again, I that's the thing.

Speaker 7 (04:33:26):
I think the common misconception is because he's five eight,
everybody assumes he's small. No, he's he's squatty, he's stocky,
he's bill more like Barney Rubble than he is like
you know, Barnie Roddy.

Speaker 4 (04:33:37):
But you know he's he's he's fast like Phil was.
He's gonna be me wrong, but he holds up a
little bit better in pass protection than Phil. Not that
his pass protection is anything you're a plus or anything
like that. I'm not trying to do that, but he
holds up a little better than Phil did. Somebody's asking
if le Broncos will need to move up for gunner
Helm we might as well go ahead and take a
look at some of the players that are available out there.
And I don't think so.

Speaker 7 (04:33:57):
I think hell, you know, the clock on Helm starts
in the probably fifth round. You know, there's a lot
of people that are just sitting there kind of overrating.
You know, everybody's gonna be a you know whatever pick
that you know, it's like the people that told me
this Gataba was gonna be a first round pick or whatever.

Speaker 5 (04:34:10):
Like, No, it's a Day three guys, a role player
in the NFL.

Speaker 7 (04:34:14):
You know, with gunner Helm, you probably probably looking at uh,
you know, probably looking at an early run on running
backs and quarterbacks here in the fourth round. So if
somebody needs a tight end, cool, But you know, uh,
there's a couple of tight ends that are still out there.

Speaker 5 (04:34:26):
You've got you know, we talked about gadsdon Uh, I'm
ready to go.

Speaker 4 (04:34:29):
You got gunner Helm out there, you certainly got us.
You know, you got Jackson Haws at a Georgia Tech.
It's another name to keep in mind.

Speaker 7 (04:34:39):
Brining Stool should still be out there. You got you
have plenty of plenty of guys out there that are
still out there.

Speaker 4 (04:34:44):
So I don't know, maybe you have to move up
for Helm, but I you know, I mean, I think
that they've got opportunities to be able to uh uh
to to sit back and get get other guys to
you know, that that could fall in their life.

Speaker 5 (04:34:56):
There's a bit of a who's who's still left a
running back?

Speaker 4 (04:34:58):
Yeah, Hill and Sampsons is still be That sort of
surprised me a little bit, Yeah, a little bit right.
Dylan Samson we thought was pretty kind of ticketed for
a day too. I thought Devin Neil had a chance
to go on day two, but I wasn't surprised to
see him slip to day three. Dj Giddens, I did
think it was gonna be Day three, But I do
like DJ Giddons a lot. Jordan James, some some draft
people out there really like him. You thought Tuten was
gonna go I thought.

Speaker 5 (04:35:19):
He was gonna go in today to the Cowboys, but
he did not.

Speaker 4 (04:35:22):
So Quentin Allen, I know you're a big guy. I
knew he was a Day three Yeah. Ollie Gordon's out there,
so that there's certainly a lot of talent running back
and wide receiver. We both like Jalen rolls a lot
out of Utah State Tory Horton is csu Elik, a
ole man or out of Stanford. I'm a little surprised
he's still out there. Very explosive, big wide receiver. Once again,

(04:35:43):
I would have been I would have sort of expected
him to be in the range that they ended up
taking Pat Bryant, but he slipped Tess Johnson. That might
be a name to keep in mind here, that's Boonix's brother. Yeah,
so that might be a throw him a bone, you
know later kind of pick. But but because he doesn't
have the requisite speed for his height weight and he's
five ten one fifty four, I mean when you're when

(04:36:04):
I outweigh you by fifteen pounds and he's only a
four or five one, and it might be twenty and
you're a four to five guy at that point.

Speaker 7 (04:36:11):
Unless you're four to three at that point, you know,
it's you know, with all due respect, Taz who plays
faster than his time. Yes, you know, that's you're my size,
except your you're fifteen to twenty pounds lighter than I am.

Speaker 5 (04:36:23):
That that's a problem.

Speaker 4 (04:36:24):
I think Joshua Farmer from Florida State out there's a
little surprising to me and I thought he was going
to go much earlier.

Speaker 5 (04:36:28):
I think you mentioned Dean Walker.

Speaker 4 (04:36:30):
Yeah, that you thought Walker.

Speaker 5 (04:36:32):
Man, that's a guy you might like, you know, I do.
He's huge.

Speaker 7 (04:36:35):
He is absolutely massive, mountain of a human being seven
three thirty one.

Speaker 5 (04:36:39):
But he's a mountain of a human being.

Speaker 11 (04:36:41):
But uh, you know, we'll see, we'll see.

Speaker 7 (04:36:44):
There's still you know, like I said, there's still plenty
of good players out here.

Speaker 5 (04:36:47):
This draft was fat in the middle.

Speaker 4 (04:36:48):
Uh, you know, rounds two through four.

Speaker 7 (04:36:50):
Maybe at May he's slipping on into five a little
bit had some quality to it. And I still think
the Broncos can move around and do some things.

Speaker 4 (04:36:56):
And of course the biggest glaring name is Shador Sanders
right out there. Now, you've said that that the Colts should.

Speaker 5 (04:37:05):
Be way sleeper team to keep your eye on.

Speaker 11 (04:37:07):
I I got it.

Speaker 7 (04:37:08):
I did some texting a little while ago and just
just sort of a sleeper team.

Speaker 4 (04:37:12):
To keep your eye on there. Okay, all right, keep
sitting at your text questions five six six zero, the
kwe comments spirit health text line, Oh yeah, and Bassa.

Speaker 5 (04:37:22):
He's out there, your guys, yeah, wise worse from bed.

Speaker 4 (04:37:27):
There's plenty of guys still out there that are still
out there.

Speaker 11 (04:37:30):
I guys, I'm.

Speaker 4 (04:37:31):
Running on the eight hour three o'client about my bad.

Speaker 7 (04:37:35):
I'm a little I'm a little past my prime right
now as far as that goes.

Speaker 5 (04:37:38):
So you've gotta get some tutologies. You are past your prime.

Speaker 4 (04:37:41):
But that's that's okay. I mean as one's counting that
all counting, I'm counting the hair follicles as they fade away.
At least you didn't do like I did earlier when
I said that the tag out twice in a row. Yeah,
I was like, okay, all right with Uh, I really
wanted to drive home that this is the k wave
Rod Goes Radio network. I really wanted people to know.

Speaker 9 (04:38:02):
Just have to.

Speaker 5 (04:38:02):
Yeah, I have to make sure they don't.

Speaker 4 (04:38:06):
It's it's been one of those.

Speaker 7 (04:38:07):
Tomorrow is gonna get it's gonna the C plus material
comes out tomorrow by seat plus and being generous to myself, Uh,
you know, it's much more than the D minus material
that'll come out tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (04:38:16):
Well, he's well, have Rick Lewis here and you have
some fun and they didn't. Yeah, so I don't have to.
I don't have to carry as much weight doing that.

Speaker 4 (04:38:23):
So Zach Seers is gonna join us as part of
our broadcast that I'm looking forward to.

Speaker 31 (04:38:28):
Dad.

Speaker 4 (04:38:28):
Zach's got a lot of opinions.

Speaker 7 (04:38:30):
Zach has opinions the podcast He's got.

Speaker 4 (04:38:35):
He has a lot of things to say. But I
hear he didn't melt down this year about the Broncos
picks as much.

Speaker 5 (04:38:42):
So that will see And it seems like I.

Speaker 4 (04:38:44):
Can get it going. Well, I'm sure you can. I'm
gonna wind him up pretty good. He he was among
the Broncos fans slash media that did not want Trayvon
Henderson and is thrilled with the r J. Harvey pick.
As far as he's concerned, he likes the value better
for what RJ Harvey where the Broncos selected him at
sixty versus having to trade up to get Trevon Henderson.

(04:39:06):
Fine with r J. Harvey, but value didn't win football games.
So that's that's my that's my point.

Speaker 7 (04:39:10):
That's my problem with the people who get stuck on
the word value when it comes to the draft and
all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 5 (04:39:14):
Value don't win football games.

Speaker 4 (04:39:15):
Players do. I don't have to wait on them read
that question. I don't know what that means, all right,
so we will come back. We got one more segment
to go as we're live here from Broncos Park, power
by Common Spirits.

Speaker 5 (04:39:27):
Wrapping up Day two of the NFL Draft.

Speaker 4 (04:39:30):
We'll get into some more things that we're looking forward
to for tomorrow's broadcast that starts at ten am.

Speaker 5 (04:39:35):
We'll be right back here, very excited to be with you.

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This is the ko Broncos Radio Network. All Right, final
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Ryan Edwards, Benjamin all Bright, We are live from Broncos Park,
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of course on since three o'clock with KOI Sports. The

(04:40:21):
draft started at five o'clock and then yeah, this is
where we're at. We're reacting to the three picks from
the Broncos today for total in the draft. They've got
two more draft picks tomorrow. As we sort of look ahead.
They got a fourth round pick at pick number one
thirty four, and then they got a sixth round pick.

(04:40:43):
They have one left. They had three when they entered today.
Now they have one and as a pick one ninety seven,
So we got two picks left, and of course whatever
future picks they decide to throw in in case there's
somebody they want to target.

Speaker 7 (04:40:54):
Yeah, you know, I wouldn't be surprised if they came
away with more than that, more picks than that by
the end of the day.

Speaker 4 (04:41:01):
George would I could see some I could see some trading.

Speaker 7 (04:41:04):
Back, you know, George, you know if if the right
players aren't there, you move back a little bit and
you have a little flexibility.

Speaker 5 (04:41:09):
Yeah, split the fourth and maybe grab a fifth and yeah, that.

Speaker 4 (04:41:12):
Kind of stuff.

Speaker 7 (04:41:13):
So what we'll see, I mean there's still uh you know,
like I said, still plenty of intrigue tomorrow. What year
is it right now? When do we start broadcasting this day? No,
it'll be it'll be fun. We got it covered all
day here, uh you guys. Uh, like I said, we
have a whole crew and Rick's gonna come in. I
think we got the comedian Brad Williams gotta be on
board with Dad's actually years gonna jump in here for
a little while, be a lot of fun.

Speaker 4 (04:41:33):
It's gonna be a lot of fun. Yeah, we'll be
on TODA him and then we're gonna go through the
end of the draft and kind of like it was today,
the Rockies are playing in the afternoon, so we'll be
over on our sister station k HOW for a little
bit six thirty k HOW. You can listen on the
iHeartRadio app or of course trust your radio, and then
we'll have an interview with George Payton at the end
of draft, which is always a lot of fun getting

(04:41:54):
a chance to chat with George. And boy, he he
got you on this one. He did.

Speaker 7 (04:41:58):
He gave me the wink when he walked in. Now
if you saw that when he when he walked down
in his eye, yeah, that's why. Now I gave the
wake in the allergies.

Speaker 4 (04:42:05):
You know, salergy season is analogy season for those of
us that suffer, uh tens of us afflicted every year,
right especially in this room inside the sealed room inside.

Speaker 5 (04:42:17):
But now he gave the wake.

Speaker 11 (04:42:18):
He knew it was up.

Speaker 7 (04:42:19):
It was Yeah, they got me, and it was the
thing like I was. I flat out told him. I
was like, yeah, you got me, but I'm gonna get
you next year.

Speaker 4 (04:42:24):
So, you know, a lot of questions about Shador here
on the text line what's gonna happen with him? There
are a teams, a lot.

Speaker 7 (04:42:31):
Of teams that are having internal discussions right now. Is
the juice worth the squeeze on the attention gives the
tebow effect?

Speaker 5 (04:42:36):
Right?

Speaker 4 (04:42:37):
Do you want to bring a guy in who's probably
going to be a backup this year and have that
media circus with it?

Speaker 7 (04:42:43):
And so there are a lot of people right now
having those discussions. I was texted by, uh, somebody who
works for an NFL team that said that that's a
discussion tonight they're having that. Hey, look we're we're looking
into this thing. We're gonna see, uh if this is
something that we want to do and and go from there,
and that that really is it.

Speaker 4 (04:42:58):
I mean, the problem is you had the evaluation on
him was a day two pick in terms of tools
and what he brings to the table.

Speaker 7 (04:43:04):
But the evaluation beyond that is he's a Day two
pick with a dad with the biggest megaphone on the planet.

Speaker 5 (04:43:10):
And if our starter's not having a great day.

Speaker 4 (04:43:13):
If he's not having a great day, if the offense
looks disjointed, that dude's going to be on his Twitter,
he's going to be on McAfee, he's going to be
on the NFL network, and he's going to be sitting
there rant and Raven. It's going to put guys out
of jobs. And so that is a consideration for some people,
and it has to be, and especially now, like if
you're a Day two pick, there's some scenario where you
could maybe compete to win a job. If you're a

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Day three quarterback, you're not being drafted to compete for
a starting job most of the time. Right now, you
mentioned the Colts as his example, and I think that's
a really good one because there are questions about what
their starting quarterback situation is going to be. Anthony Richardson
is competing for his job with Daniel Jones. So Shador
would have a bit of an opportunity. But once again,

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you bring up the megaphone, right, see if Chris Ballard
right and that coaching staff is they're kind of on
the Hey, you got to put it together this year.

Speaker 5 (04:44:03):
Yes, you know another team, the Miami Dolphins.

Speaker 7 (04:44:05):
You've got to You've got a whole team there that's
got to put it together this year, and you'd have
to sit behind a you know.

Speaker 5 (04:44:10):
You would kind of like that one though with Tua's history.

Speaker 7 (04:44:12):
It's a good fit there, but that you've got a
coaching staff that has to win now and they can't.

Speaker 5 (04:44:15):
Put up with that.

Speaker 4 (04:44:16):
They just can't.

Speaker 7 (04:44:18):
So you know, you look at you look at you
basically need a coaching staff that is starting their first
year this year to give you the grace to be
able to put up with that, because if you don't,
uh and and you blow it somehow, then you know,
you wind up putting yourself out of a job with
somebody who's gonna have the utmost scrutiny on them.

Speaker 4 (04:44:37):
I'm seeing this tweet from Ryan Clark when he's saying
the media coverage of Shor Sanders has felt extremely purposeful
and personal. The anonymous quotes that have circulated are mostly negative,
which is strange. A young man that has never been
in trouble, never involved in an off field instant, a
quarterback with two universities and research and resurgence, has zero
behind the scenes qualities. You know, I understand where he's going,

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but but that's not I don't think that is the
intention of what you're saying. You're you're you're saying that
it isn't so much a conversation about him being a
bad locker.

Speaker 5 (04:45:14):
Room guy or anything like that.

Speaker 4 (04:45:15):
It's just understanding that it's it's it's the package deal,
it's the Sanders name, it's the expectations. And you said
it's a bit of a t bow effect because when
you draft should door Sanders, and now, especially here in
day three, he's going to be drafted to be a backup.
But you're gonna have the whole press conferences with Sugar
Sanders because there's gonna be a demand right for should
or sand Do.

Speaker 7 (04:45:35):
You want to answer should or Sanders' questions all training camp?

Speaker 4 (04:45:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (04:45:38):
You know.

Speaker 7 (04:45:39):
Do you want hard knocks wanting to be there to
watch all your stuff? Do you want his personal camera crew?
Which you could put a barricade on that one, but
do you really want that that kind of style? Is
the juice worth the squeeze? And that's a real question
that these guys have to I don't think it's personal.
I think I think one of the quotes was personal
because there was sort of it became an agitated situation. Look,
should or Sanders had some interviews, I didn't well more

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than one. I can't speak to all of them. There
were some that probably did go well, but I know
of two that did not go well. Right, And that's
the reason he's not a New York giant and the
reason he's not a New Orleans saint. And so at
the end of the day, like you know, I don't
I don't know what to say on that. Yeah, okay,
Like these dudes all looked at it and they said, okay,
I've got Teddy Bridgewater here. Also, you know, it was
a problem when he interviewed, and it's gonna be a

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problem with all this extra media attention that we're gonna
have to deal with.

Speaker 11 (04:46:23):
Is this really it?

Speaker 4 (04:46:24):
Or do we'd rather try somebody else to be the
backup and go from there. I was still surprised Dylan
Gabriel went ahead of him.

Speaker 7 (04:46:28):
I'm floored by that, the fact that Dylan Gabriel went
ahead of Will Howard and Kyle McCord his face fast,
let alone, let alone, shod door.

Speaker 4 (04:46:35):
Sanders, And we knew this shuck was going to go
earlier in day two, that that that wasn't too much
of a surprise. And Jaylen Milroe, I can talk myself
into that because again you're talking about different skill sets.

Speaker 5 (04:46:47):
But Dylan Gabriel, bro, like, what is you doing?

Speaker 11 (04:46:51):
What are we?

Speaker 1 (04:46:52):
What are we doing?

Speaker 5 (04:46:53):
That's the one see for Ryan Clark and for all
the other cause I've seen his defense.

Speaker 4 (04:47:00):
Hot take. Guys can just point to Dylan Gates and
I'm like, I don't know what to do with that one. Sorry, Cleveland, Yeah,
what are we doing here?

Speaker 5 (04:47:07):
Nes Cleveland?

Speaker 7 (04:47:08):
So they're gonna get it wrong anyway, Guys like, we
don't need Travis Hunter.

Speaker 5 (04:47:12):
Mason Graham.

Speaker 4 (04:47:16):
That a man, right, You know you said that last
night on the draft, just saying, you know, give you
be telling your fan base it's gonna be okay because
we're getting Travis Hunter. And then you trade out of
that pick. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (04:47:28):
Now again you know, hey, you're Andrew Berry. You need
to get a future first out of it. Yeah, And
to me, you went that Dylan Gabriel pick really screams
is we want somebody who may have some upside, but
not anybody that could get us into purgatory here. Yes, uh,
you know, because next year was gonna be what the
year we make the run at the quarterback that.

Speaker 9 (04:47:44):
That that is it? All right, So.

Speaker 4 (04:47:48):
It's gonna be fascinating Tomorrow he's gotta get drafted, right, Yeah,
I believe he'll be drafted the first twenty picks tomorrow. Okay,
well maybe sooner.

Speaker 11 (04:47:57):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (04:47:58):
It's been a fun day and it's been a fun
fun days. It's been great. What I love about the
NFL Draft is there's always surprises, there's always things you do.
You know, we came into the day with like, oh
my gosh, look at this list of players that they
have the meat of the draft. You said, it's really
I mean, so many options there, and they came away
with three players, three players that I think could have

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impact this year, especially running back with r J. Harvey,
and I think even Savian ag Jones might have a
chance to have impact. So we'll talk about it all
the tomorrow starting at today, And want to thank Grant
Smith back on the board. Phenomenal job.