04-26-25 NFL Draft Rounds 4-7 Coverage Part 2

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
The twenty twenty five NFL Draft continues.

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Speaker 5 (00:21):
Thanks all right, welcome back to Day three of the
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pick two sixteen to Houston will be Jalen Conyers Texas
Tech going to another Jalen.

Speaker 6 (00:57):
Well done, it's good, well done. Yeah, with the got
four Jalen's and Jayden's.

Speaker 5 (01:04):
Yeah, it's it's absurd, Yeah, Jayden, Jalen, Jalen, Jalen and Jalen.

Speaker 7 (01:07):
That Ricky Minnie camp is going to be so confusing. Yeah,
everybody's gonna be called by their number.

Speaker 5 (01:12):
It's got to be why is Martinez dropping? I have
not heard anything about character issues.

Speaker 6 (01:17):
I don't know abou any character issues.

Speaker 8 (01:18):
Maybe there's some some medical there I'm not aware of,
you know, Like I said, like I always say, if
something's happening and you don't understand it, then you probably
don't know what you don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:26):
In this particular case, I don't know what I don't know.

Speaker 8 (01:29):
So that that's one of those ones where I, you know,
Martinez a guy I was very high.

Speaker 6 (01:32):
On, so I you know, I do not know why
he is still out there. Ryan Leonard from Notre Dame
going to the Colts. Smith.

Speaker 5 (01:39):
That's a good pick there, Tim Smith defensive tackles, the
most generic name ever from Alabama going to the Colts.
There at one ninety Miles Hinton from Michigan, offensive tackle
going to the Eagles, who continue, like we've been saying,
to invest in the Trenches and the Broncos pick is
coming up in seven.

Speaker 8 (01:57):
Yeah, getting getting close here. Any any oughts from you
guys on what you'd like to see here?

Speaker 7 (02:03):
I think Martinez would be an awesome pairing with R. J. Harvey,
you know, I think the Trenches guys make a lot
of sense. Get get younger on the offensive line, get
yourself a future there. As Ryan was pointing out earlier,
that's a really expensive position group on this team. You're
gonna have to start finding ways to get young or
younger and cheaper. And that's a pretty easy one. So
that jumps out to me. But I mean, Damian Martinez

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is probably the best player on the board, and that
would get you pretty close to a completely well rounded
running back room.

Speaker 5 (02:30):
What do you like about him specifically A six foot
two hundred and seventeen pounds, I know he had a
lot of Yeah, he can get.

Speaker 8 (02:35):
Straight, he's got two yards, well, he catches, Okay, He's
just one of those guys that's consistent, Like, you give
him the ball, you're not gonna lose yardage. He gets
you consistent yardage as far as that kind of stuff goes.
And he can catch the ball out of the backfield
a little bit. There's gon a weakness to his game
except for maybe home run speed.

Speaker 7 (02:50):
Yeah, he doesn't have the home run speed. I think
his impact in the passing game is going to be
a work in progress. He's got the tools to be
a good pass protector. I think it's hit or miss
right now. I don't think he's the dynamic receiver outside
of you know, screen game dump off stuff stuff we've
just seen, you know, Javonte Williams do. But what I
think what you love about him. I know Skataboo was
a popular running back in Broncos country because of just

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how determined a runner he has, that never say say
die style. I think Damian Martinez has that, and I
think he's a better athlete. Maybe not as well rounded
in terms of being able to help you in so
many different ways, but in terms of just being a
ball carrier, I think he's just about as violent as
camp Skataboo, And unlike Camp Skataboo, he's not constantly getting
hit in the backfield because he's slow.

Speaker 6 (03:30):
A running back. Did just go off the board to
the Bengals, TODJ. Brooks. Yeah, the Texas Tech a little
bit more of a very reductive Yeah, yep.

Speaker 5 (03:37):
So that, I mean, that's pretty good pick for them,
especially for what their offense does.

Speaker 6 (03:40):
And I like that one a lot. You got the Jacksonville.

Speaker 5 (03:43):
Jaguars, You've got the Chicago Bears, the Detroit Lions, and
the Denver Broncos. So we got three picks before the
Broncos selection at one ninety seven and once again Ben,
if they don't trade back here, if they don't split
this pick, then they'll have to trade future draft ca
put a lord to get.

Speaker 6 (04:00):
Back into the draft to get somebody. Yeah, they decided to.

Speaker 8 (04:03):
Want a player, you could move a player for something
like that at that point.

Speaker 6 (04:06):
Is there anybody that you would speculate on.

Speaker 8 (04:08):
I mean, as you look around right now, there does
seem to be a superfluous defensive end, you know, on
this roster all of a sudden who's looking for a contract.

Speaker 5 (04:15):
So wow, So you'd say, what an interesting full circle
moment that would be for And I'm assuming you're talking
about JFM.

Speaker 8 (04:24):
I don't want him to move him, but like, just
based on the moves that you've made, you sort of
kind of tip in your hand here that you're either
changing what you do defensively up front or you've got
an extra body here that that doesn't seem to you know,
and I think it could an extra body they could use.
I think you know, Zach Allen had by far the
highest rate of snaps per game and save on isn't

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you know the exact same type of player as Zach
Allen wouldn't fit that same niche he'd he'd, like you said.

Speaker 7 (04:50):
Be more of a replacement for John Franklin Myers. But
I think adding any instant contributor to that room, hopefully,
you know, it takes a few of those three technique
snaps away from DJ, maybe a few those four eye
snaps away from uh JFM, you know, maybe even a
few off Zach Allen's play, and you're keeping all those
guys pressure and you're not risking injury at that same level.
You know, I think if you asked Zach Allen to

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play that crazy high snap count again per game, you're
you're playing with fire because because that's a lot to
put on his body.

Speaker 5 (05:19):
Jalen McLeod, linebacker out of Auburn, goes to the Texans
Jacksonville Jaguars.

Speaker 6 (05:25):
That's another Jalen, and I understand, I know what you
were doing there, but you got me commit to the bid.

Speaker 5 (05:31):
The Bears are up next, then the Lions before the
Broncs pick a one ninety seven.

Speaker 6 (05:37):
Bears have had a surprising draft.

Speaker 7 (05:39):
I think going with Luthor Burden, some of the directions
they went just really come out of Colston Loveland in
the first round, already having Cole Comeett on a veteran
contract and being a solid player. They've had a very
surprising draft for me so far.

Speaker 6 (05:51):
I think they got a lot of Swiss army knife
type stuff.

Speaker 8 (05:54):
This was what it felt like a little bit, a
little bit niche, but you know, at the end of
the day, I think a little there'll be effective. Ben
Johnson knows how to use those kind of guys.

Speaker 6 (06:04):
Definitely.

Speaker 5 (06:04):
On the Kai Commas Spirit Health text lines, we're waiting
for the Broncos selection.

Speaker 6 (06:08):
What's up, guys.

Speaker 5 (06:08):
I'm stoked with our draft picks, but surprised with the
running back selection.

Speaker 6 (06:12):
Also what happened with a tight end.

Speaker 7 (06:15):
I think they could still go.

Speaker 6 (06:16):
I think that there could still be a possibility here,
you know.

Speaker 8 (06:20):
I think the other part of this is maybe maybe
you looked at this and you're like, all right, well,
you know, we do have some guys in the room still.
We did just sign Evan angerm even if he's more
of a heavy slot than he is a tight end.
Eat it, Nick Ferguson. But I think you know, you
still do have Kroll, you know, the Hall of Famer
in the in the room and you know, whenever Gronkowski
gets here, I think they're going to be uh Luke Newman.

Speaker 5 (06:41):
By the way, offensive tack from Michigan State just went
off the board to the Bears.

Speaker 6 (06:45):
So we got the Lions picking in the Broncos pick. Yeah.
I mean, sometimes the board falls a certain way.

Speaker 5 (06:49):
I remember a couple of years past when we talked
to George Payton. We asked him about offensive tackle, I
think in on Day two, and he said, hey, we
had a couple of guys in mind, but the board
just didn't follow the way we wanted to, and we
just went the next best player on our board.

Speaker 6 (07:02):
And sometimes that ends up being the case.

Speaker 5 (07:04):
I mean, the Broncos traded back twice, they've traded up once,
but they've obviously done it very intentionally.

Speaker 6 (07:09):
The RJ.

Speaker 5 (07:09):
Harvey pick was a perfect example that they felt they
could trade back and still get the running back they
want is there, which was a smart move, ended up
allowing him to get enough picks to be able to
trade back into the third round to get save on Jones.
So I you think sometimes it's just the way the
board falls, Like, do you have certain guys in mind?
I think, here if the Broncos see somebody that they
want at one ninety seven, they won't. They don't think

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they can get lay later on, say like a Tes
Johnson or something like that. Then they'll select him here
and we move on.

Speaker 8 (07:37):
I don't think you have to worry about anybody draft
in Tes Johnson if you want him, I think you
can get them pudfa.

Speaker 7 (07:42):
Yeah, I think really, Okay, I think there's enough quality
options that, yeah, you could feel comfortable trading back and thinking,
at least for one of these guys is going to
make it.

Speaker 6 (07:50):
To our next pick.

Speaker 7 (07:51):
Well, lots of centers off the defensive line then that
are standing out or that are still on the border
standing out defensive line. We knew this was a deep class.
There's still a lot of quality defensive lineman out there.
I think they've got a lot of different avenues to
go here where I think it would be smart to
maybe trade back and get some extra darts to throw.

Speaker 5 (08:09):
All right, So we are sitting here waiting to see
what the Lions select. I pick one ninety six before
the Broncos. Who is their own selection in? Okay, Broncos
are on the clock at one ninety seven. Maybe the
final time of the draft.

Speaker 6 (08:26):
We shall see. Nope, they're trading backing back with the Texans.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
There you go.

Speaker 6 (08:30):
There must be a there's there must be another jail in.

Speaker 8 (08:33):
Yeah, that's what they saw the Jaguars, and I'll be damned,
there's got to be another jailer in there.

Speaker 6 (08:40):
They getting another Jaalen out here.

Speaker 8 (08:41):
There's no way I will not there's this aggression on
that stand.

Speaker 9 (08:44):
All right.

Speaker 6 (08:45):
So the Broncos are trading back. Good. I didn't want
it to sit here until the end of the draft
with nothing else.

Speaker 8 (08:51):
Thank you, Thank you, George, Thank you, George, your sweet
baby George. Nine pounds eleven ounces in your major. You
know what, you've had some missus today, hits, way more hits.
And you know what, for as many.

Speaker 6 (09:06):
Saturday drafts as I've done with you, that's a.

Speaker 8 (09:08):
Pretty good batting average. I'm all right with that. Yeah,
I'm back in three thirty five right now.

Speaker 6 (09:13):
Hey, rock you take that.

Speaker 5 (09:16):
Right now, MVP candidates, I'll take the thirty four, all right.
So the the Broncos are trading back. The Bears selected.
We noted how Luke Newman what the Lions selection is
yet I'm waiting on that. But we just know the
Broncos are trading back. We don't have the compensation right,
and we don't know.

Speaker 6 (09:34):
How far back they're going either, you know who.

Speaker 5 (09:37):
I'd like to see the Texans hold on the Texans
next pick.

Speaker 6 (09:41):
I don't know what on they traded up. Are the
Broncos now so they're not even in the sixth round?

Speaker 8 (09:46):
Yeah, the Texans at the end of the sixth round pick,
But I believe the seventh round is what.

Speaker 6 (09:49):
The news we're here in the future.

Speaker 8 (09:51):
We'll see because see they had the Yeah, I think
I think it's this pick.

Speaker 6 (09:54):
I think it's number eight and the four to six.
We'll see.

Speaker 8 (09:59):
I don't the exact in front of me at the moment,
could be adding that one anyway. We'll get to that
in a second. Sean Doliac, the linebacker out of Buffalo,
I would not be surprised if they've seventh round and
he's still there.

Speaker 7 (10:12):
If Denver maybe Jimmy made a move.

Speaker 5 (10:15):
Damn, I just saw the compensation here. Good Patrick smythe.

Speaker 6 (10:19):
Is so fast, all right, Broncos that received sixteen sixteen
to one. That's good stumped all over me and I
just you're welcome. I like that.

Speaker 7 (10:30):
I think that's a good haul you're getting. You're not
moving back that far at all, right, you're milking at
twenty spots and then you're getting a gag out of
a pick here. Yeah, I like that process.

Speaker 6 (10:38):
We'll see that's gonna be a little bit. Then we're
till we're doing the pick.

Speaker 8 (10:41):
And I again, Sean Dolec, the linebacker out of Buffalo,
want to keep your eye.

Speaker 5 (10:45):
Okay, interesting, all right, So the Bronco's moving from one
ninety seven to two sixteen, and they also picked up
two forty one. Okay, and we thought we thought they
want to get a seventh rounder. Anyways, like that was
that was kind of the process, right that they they
didn't really want to sort of stop here, and obviously
they're looking at the board. They're feeling like there's a
lot of options still available to him.

Speaker 7 (11:05):
Zach, Yeah, punter didn't have that. I think you have
that seventh round or two seventh rounders. Wherever two sixteen falls,
I think you can feel a little more comfortable maybe going, hey,
let's get a punter to add to that competition.

Speaker 6 (11:18):
Two sixteen is still in the last pick of the
sixth round. Okay, So two sixteen is quite well.

Speaker 5 (11:22):
So basically it's basically two sevens. But yes, it's the
last pick of the sixth round.

Speaker 7 (11:26):
Yeah, and you can spend that maybe on getting that linebacker,
getting you know, another option to groom on the defensive
line or on the offensive line, you know, receiver, Maybe
you take a flyer there round out the running back room.
You've got a lot of options there, and then you
can circle back late in the seventh round and you know,
why not add another body to that punter room. I
know Rizzy's high on the guy they added, but he's

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you know, he's only been a backup these past few seasons.
I think that's for fairly good reason. It would be
nice to see them add a guy at least to
that competition. So you know, if the guy, if the
veteran they brought in, wins the job, that's great, but
it'd be nice to make him earn it rather than
just annointing him the guy.

Speaker 8 (12:02):
Yeah, I I'd be with that. I'd be with the
punter again. I'm just gonna throw that name out there
just to keep an.

Speaker 9 (12:08):
Eye on a.

Speaker 8 (12:08):
Sean dolc Uh, the linebacker out of Buffalo with pair
really nicely with drag Greenlaw, Boise State.

Speaker 6 (12:14):
Ed Rusher, I'm Ed Hasten Night. I don't know. I'm
not familiar with him, but yeah, he just going to Detroit.

Speaker 5 (12:22):
So now the the Texans are drafting a quarterback, Graham Mertz.

Speaker 8 (12:27):
Wow, okay, I gotta text somebody is gonna get drafted.
I gotta text somebody. I just lost a bet on
the side. Just keepy coaches a friend of mine, and
yeah he was. He bet me that he'd be drafted
and I was like, I.

Speaker 6 (12:38):
Don't think so. Yeah, okay, all right, so there you go.

Speaker 5 (12:43):
So another quarterback coming out of the board before Quinn yours.
What does that mean to you?

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Man?

Speaker 6 (12:47):
I bad news for animals.

Speaker 8 (12:49):
Yeah, my gosh, Wow, you've turned in to me and
it makes me faded, warms my.

Speaker 6 (12:57):
Heart so proud. Bad news for animal. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (13:00):
Clint Owers is a guy that many people had thought
could be, you know, one of the top quarterbacks in
this class. I know our old our old friend Alfred
Williams used talking about him all the time on.

Speaker 7 (13:09):
The air, thinking that he was going to be very,
very highly drafted.

Speaker 8 (13:11):
And as he continues to plummet, I think you know
you if you're drafted youwers you're drafting a project, and
that the Texas tape has kind of hit or miss.
I think you got to go back before the injury though,
and really take a look, because he was all right
at that point, but then after the injury the wheels
kind of sort of came off. You look at his
tape late in the year and you're like, oh, this
is gross. This is not something I wanted to.

Speaker 6 (13:31):
Be part of.

Speaker 9 (13:31):
So U.

Speaker 8 (13:32):
I also think arch Manning kind of excelling in that
offense may have may have kind of made people look
at it like, well, you know this, this young buck
over here is doing better than this guy who you know,
who's been in this for a while.

Speaker 7 (13:42):
His highs are really high, and I think that's what
excites you. The arm talent is is clearly there on occasion.
It's just the inconsistencies, I think drive you crazy and
and yeah, they're just maddening at times. It's like, how
did you not see that right in front of you?
Even in those big spots like the national championship and everything,
or you know, the college football there were moments where
he was putting his team on his back, and then
others where he was almost throwing the game away. He's

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a frustrating watch, all right.

Speaker 5 (14:07):
So that the Broncos, of course, as we just mentioned,
have trade back. They've made four trades in this draft,
featuring twenty total picks from Parker Gabriel.

Speaker 8 (14:15):
Wow, the pick they used in this draft, right, that's
the only original pick they used out of the original.

Speaker 5 (14:23):
Is this pick number twenty? Yeah, that's that's a pretty
fascinating And.

Speaker 7 (14:27):
They were taking calls to where that might have not
even the right case. If hadn't been there.

Speaker 5 (14:32):
They would not have used that, but they wouldn't have
used that one either. Okay, fascinating stuff. In case you
missed it earlier. Jade Baron joined Voice of the Broncos
Dave log and we heard this yesterday during the show.

Speaker 6 (14:43):
Was a cool one on one opportunities he met with
the media.

Speaker 5 (14:46):
Here was that conversation with Dave and Jaday Shaday.

Speaker 10 (14:49):
Welcome to Denver. I talked to you a little bit
last night when when you got the call from the Broncos.
Uh and they said, hey, listen, you're going to be
our first round draft choice. What two or three thoughts
immediately popped into your mind?

Speaker 9 (15:02):
It was all worth it.

Speaker 11 (15:04):
Every investment that I did, all the things that all
the places that my mom took me to go train,
taking me from boxing to basketball to track practice, the
football practice, it was all worth it, and it was
all for her. I allowed her to invite anybody she
wanted to yesterday. So you've seen a lot of people
back there, and it was her day, and and I
wanted her to enjoy that.

Speaker 9 (15:25):
My mom, she she meant everything to me.

Speaker 11 (15:26):
So when they told me that, I knew I could
change my mom's life forever.

Speaker 10 (15:30):
You know, you you played a lot of positions at
UT and I want to ask you, Obviously the club
will decide, but where do you see yourself in terms
of an NFL secondary guy.

Speaker 11 (15:42):
Honestly, you know they're smarter than me. They're gonna put
me just like where the staff at Texas. They put
me to benefit the team, to benefit myself and and
ultimately but to benefit the team. So I know this
staff here, they're gonna put me where needed whenever that
wherever they put me, I'm master to that and I'm
gonna work on that craft.

Speaker 9 (16:00):
I'm gonna do what I need to do and own
my role for the team.

Speaker 10 (16:02):
So when you were in high school. You had to
play some offense. Right, where did you play? I played receiver?

Speaker 6 (16:08):
Okay, all right, No running back, So I was running.

Speaker 9 (16:11):
Back up to tenth grade. My whole life.

Speaker 11 (16:13):
I just start playing defensive back until I was tenth grade.
My first first time I started playing safety tenth grade,
going into tenth grade.

Speaker 6 (16:19):
Wow.

Speaker 10 (16:20):
I was at your press conference here a little bit
earlier today.

Speaker 12 (16:23):
It seemed like.

Speaker 10 (16:25):
You've got a real sort of calm demeanor to you,
And I want to ask you where does that come from?

Speaker 9 (16:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (16:33):
Again, my confidence, but my confidence is getting just understanding
who I'm going. Fine, I'm not. I won't be stressed
out there. I don't go out there scared. I don't
go out there worrying. I give all my worries to him.
I might have my pastor come the other day for
the draft, and he talked about being a lion. You know,
a lion and someone's tough. He's going to give you
everything he has, and it's a time where a lion rests,

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and when you rest. Yesterday was I can't do anything.
I can't control anything. He did the things I can control.
I controlled the controllables, and it got me to the
point where I was at yesterday, and that was God yesterday.
You know that all that was God yesterday, him placing
me to his position where he most believed and and
he knew I was fit for. And then that was
all him. He orchestrated that. He put me here with

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Broncos Country, and it's gonna be amazing.

Speaker 10 (17:20):
I think that that's an awesome answer. Last couple, when
you when you you know, when you're in college, it's
it's it's it's like a business, it's work. You're worried
about the next opponent. You're watching film. Did you ever
find yourself being able to watch, like extensively watch NFL
games And if so, who did you enjoy watching.

Speaker 11 (17:40):
I watched a lot of guys again, I watched PS two.
You know, you know my coach, he watched NFL tape
all day and he'll tell me the things that he
was doing, a lot of great things that he was doing.
So always watching him and stuff like that. I'm real
good friends with PJ. I worked out with him. I
met PJ lot when I was in tenth grade. Wow, yeah,
I was in tenth grade and working out with his uncle.
We're working in Houston. I'm literally like doing conditioning sprints

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with with PJ.

Speaker 9 (18:03):
Lock. I was in tenth grade, so I got to see.

Speaker 11 (18:05):
Him today, uh, and it was just exciting and exciting feeling.

Speaker 13 (18:08):
You know.

Speaker 11 (18:08):
Those are the guys that I looked up to when
I was when I was a little kid, when I
was in high school and things like that, and they
were playing at ut always one to put on the
burn orange after them. So it's just fun that I
get to put on another orange.

Speaker 10 (18:19):
So yeah, absolutely, I'll get you out of here on
this Give for for Broncos fans, and we have a
lot of them that listen to this show. Give me
two or three things that you bring to this club
that maybe people might not know until they see it.

Speaker 11 (18:36):
I think my connectivity, you know, I connect very well.
I respect everybody. I treat everybody the saying from the
from the janitor to the president.

Speaker 9 (18:43):
And that's big.

Speaker 11 (18:44):
That's how my mom raised me to always give that up.
Must respect, and you will see without most respect, and
that'll take you further than football. So I think that's big.
And then too, just my love, my love for the game.
But I won't even say his love for the game.
It's just understanding that I'm going to find God.

Speaker 9 (18:59):
I can't.

Speaker 11 (19:00):
I wouldn't be here without him. I'm not a fool,
it says, don't be a full You still have to
work for the things. But at the end of the day,
God's gifted me with disability and then with disability to
go out there and do things that I do. God's
gifted everybody with the ability. He's gifted you with the
ability to be able to do what you're doing today.
And it's our job to do the best we can
to the fullest. But at the end of the day,

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he did gift us with disability. And then three just
just my want to the essence, you know, me staying
committed to what I said I'll do long after the
moon has changed. So I know it'll be rough days,
it'll be tough days, and it'd be hard days and
things like that.

Speaker 9 (19:35):
But if I can just.

Speaker 11 (19:36):
Keep my keep keep my mind focused and just understanding
it's a long term goal, but just staying committed to
the process. You know, the process, It'll be the result
the process. What you put in, you're gonna get what
you put in it to come out. So just always
just keep grinding and just keep going.

Speaker 10 (19:51):
That that is a fact. Hey, listen. Congratulations, welcome to demer.

Speaker 6 (19:55):
Appreciate you.

Speaker 5 (19:58):
I really fun conversation there, and as always, all of
our interviews are available on demand at kwiclorad dot com
or on the completely free and totally awesome iHeart Radio app.
I'm very excited about what he can do. I we
got to comment moments ago. Who cares how he speaks.
We didn't need a defensive back, we needed a running back.

Speaker 6 (20:17):
The draft a running back. Oh you said that? Okay,
I just sayd God, We've been around each other too long.
I even said it with the exasperation the drafted.

Speaker 12 (20:30):
A running back.

Speaker 6 (20:30):
What do you mean they needed?

Speaker 5 (20:32):
But that that person on Twitter is not the only
one that's said that. I I've heard media members. I've
I've seen media members on here saying the same thing,
like drafting for need versus just drafting a good player.
There at the top of the draft, you needed a
running back. You should have taken a running back because
that was the biggest hole in your roster.

Speaker 7 (20:50):
I also think this is a bit of an overcorrection,
all based on you know, Saquon Barkley and Derrick Henry
having awesome years, which they absolutely had. But we go
from last year. I think people we have lost their
minds about first round running back picks to now it's like,
how dare you not take one? The Chargers, I think
are threatening with a Mario Hampton in the offensive line,
their building and the way they want to beat you.

(21:11):
They also have a lot of problems in their roster.
They are shallow at a lot of different position groups,
and rather than address one of those that'll be harder
to address later on, they address the running back that's
going to show up on that roster this season in
a negative way.

Speaker 5 (21:25):
The Broncos trading back from one ninety seven with the
Houston Texans, they are now selecting a two sixteen and
two forty two, so they have two more picks right now.
They have the last pick of the sixth round and
sorry it's two forty one, and then they have the
twenty fifth pick of the seventh round. We're gonna take
a quick break and we'll come back and we'll sort
of rerack some things and kind of look ahead to

(21:47):
see what the Broncos might be eyeing now after they
have traded out of their spot at one ninety seven,
their last pick that was their own, as you mentioned,
and we mentioned a little bit ago. Pick twenty was
the only pick that they selected and they stayed put
everything else.

Speaker 6 (22:01):
You think they came into the draft. Yeah, that's truly remarkable.
All Right, we'll come back.

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Speaker 6 (23:11):
He produces Mandy Connell's show.

Speaker 5 (23:13):
He also does a lot of our digital work and
we just hit he told me a moment ago, over
one million impressions on Twitter alone from the videos that
he's been posting up, and it's been unbelievable content. So
anytime we've interviewed a prospect to one of the Broncos
draft picks, anytime we've had a spirited debate or discussion point,

(23:34):
I mean even just letting you guys know when there
have been trades, and obviously it has been.

Speaker 6 (23:37):
A lot of them.

Speaker 5 (23:38):
He has been on it the entirety of the draft
from start to finish, doing a fantastic job, as he
always does every single year when we do the NFL Draft.
But that really is incredible, Anthony, over one million impressions
on just Twitter alone. Thank you for putting us us
great content, man, and thank you guys for interacting with
us as much as you are. As I've said many
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Grant Smith back at the station, Dave Tepper out here,
our program director helping us put everything together, and of
course Shannon Scott with what did you we.

Speaker 6 (24:13):
Were talking about the skating rink yesterday with skating otherwise
known as but uh we we we we love all
these guys.

Speaker 5 (24:22):
Certainly it all comes together with with the help of many,
So thank you, congratulations, Anthony, really good work, Anthony.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
Grant.

Speaker 8 (24:28):
May weiterate just how how handsome Dave Tepper is just
going to throw out there?

Speaker 5 (24:35):
Yeah, oh nothing, Yeah, I do not think five six
six ight zero's a kay with common Spirit health text line.
I so we are at pick right now to three.
Oh le Jhontay Wester, there we.

Speaker 6 (24:44):
Go, Ravens, there we go. Great, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 8 (24:47):
Le Jhontay Wester going ahead of Jimmy Horn. I'm gonna
back it up a little bit earlier, rail on Lane
from Navy. It's a first Service Academy guy going and
then yeah, Leghonte.

Speaker 6 (24:55):
Wester from Colorado. That's really cool.

Speaker 5 (24:57):
All right, So Lejohntay Wester going to the Ravens who
always and that's a good team to go to for him.

Speaker 7 (25:03):
I love it, and they could use him. It's maddening
watching Lamar Jackson do something absolutely ridiculous and then throw
it to a receiver forty down yards down field who's
wide open, and he drops the ball. Jante, I thought
was so reliable for Colorado last year, great at getting open.
I think he'll get playing time a lot of it
pretty pretty quick in Baltimore.

Speaker 8 (25:21):
Yeah, it's fascinating how guys get drafted by the Baltimore
Ravens and go full Jamie Lanister with you know, get
the hands chopped off.

Speaker 6 (25:32):
You had to clarify that.

Speaker 14 (25:35):
There's a lot of references to I got out there
on the diving.

Speaker 6 (25:38):
Board and I was like, you know, I need to
clarify this real fast.

Speaker 5 (25:42):
I'm jumping off this cliff by yourself. You would like
double Luis like right up, Like.

Speaker 6 (25:47):
Nope, you you're on your own. Just look around. I'm
the only way fo Don't worry.

Speaker 7 (25:51):
The Rockies are still interested. You're batting and ever still
still plenty high on still over three hundred.

Speaker 6 (25:55):
That's great, We're over two fifty. It's right.

Speaker 5 (25:58):
Johnny Cornelius off to tackle out Oregon going at two
oh four. Gavin Bartholomew tied in at a pit went
two two to the Vikings. Kobe King linebacker Penn State
going to one to the Vikings. So we have Washington
at two oh five the Broncos at two sixteen. As
we worked through Day three of the NFL Draft, a

(26:19):
couple of a text here on the KWA commis Bery
Heal text line five six six nine zero. Man, I'm
loving this draft. The Peytons have a plan. Surprise everybody.
Keep everybody on their toes like that. Uh, the big
fellow took a back seat when he wanted justin fields
and not Sertan.

Speaker 8 (26:35):
That's funny, And ID argued about that one. It was
that was the that was the biggest argument. I think
he and I got into on the air. Yeah, was
the I'm sitting there like this is the right pick,
and he's like, you're a class is the wrong pick?

Speaker 6 (26:44):
Is the wrong pick?

Speaker 5 (26:45):
Well, I mean you're not the only one. There are
some still arguing that is the wrong pick, you know whatever.
But I'm just saying that there are some still out
there that still think that the Broncos should take a
Justin Fields over Patser Tan. Anyways, riding the Broncos the
diver bron wave in the twenty twenty five draft, Let's
ride the wave not so okay.

Speaker 6 (27:07):
Something I noticed about all the guys we picked.

Speaker 5 (27:09):
As in the interviews, they all sound hard working, respectful
and just kind of inspire you.

Speaker 6 (27:13):
I think we got a good lot here.

Speaker 7 (27:15):
I fully agree with that, and I think the benefit
of building up such a strong culture is once you
get that solidified with you know, all the because it's
not just this draft, it's been the last few since
since Sean Payton and George Payton kind of combined here.
Once you get your roster kind of top to bottom
full of those guys, it's easier to take risks on,
you know, some of the hyper talented guys that maybe
have some work ethic questions or whatever, because you feel

(27:37):
good about the other forty five or fifty guys, your
core guys, lifting him up and making sure he's held
to a high standard.

Speaker 5 (27:44):
What this Another text One of the narratives in this
draft was that it was really deep at running back,
and there were equality running backs into day two, so
the Broncos didn't need to jump at a running back
in the first round if a quality player was there.

Speaker 6 (27:55):
Well, that's exactly how it played out. So why are
people so mad?

Speaker 7 (27:59):
I have no idea, and there's gonna be a good
guy that goes undrafted. I would be plenty happy if
they addressed it ahead of time, just you know, lock
that position up, get a strong run game for Bonix, solidfied.
You don't have to worry about bidding on the priority
free agent market. But I mean, there's gonna be good
running backs that go in the sixth seventh round here,
you know, even unflashy guys like Kyle Mnungui. He's probably

(28:21):
one of the rare guys left who could come in
and immediately help you as a past protector, even though
he's not the most flashy runner receiver.

Speaker 6 (28:29):
Yeah, I'm I'm looking.

Speaker 8 (28:30):
Forward to seeing with these last two picks here are
I know, the consensus would still be probably tight end
and you know, running back, I think for most fans,
But I think there are options here with with possibly
another lineacker or maybe maybe an offensive lineman. The linebacker
out of Buffalo Shon Dola. There's somebody to keep your
eye on there. You know, maybe maybe you do go

(28:50):
tight end here? Maybe you do at a brining stool.
To me, it feels like a UDFA type move. You know,
I maybe there's a receiver, maybe they won't take another
stat receiver.

Speaker 7 (29:00):
Who knows, And I think they could still use some
help on the defensive front. You know, the the Q
I'm faced on the last name right now, BROB, so
thank you. Q is more of an edge rusher guy,
a lighter body you've got save you on as kind
of that four I type replacing JFM. But in terms
of you know three texts which Malcolm roaches. Of course

(29:21):
he could also leave you next year, they don't really
have anything there. Aias Pebble or Peebles one of the
best players available. And then Jay Toy out of Ucla.
We saw Buffalo kind of maul them in that playoff
game and just out physical them, outsize them, out bully them.
Jay Toy, if you wanted to add more of a
true nose technique, a three hundred and forty pounds would
go a long way towards helping that run defense summit

(29:43):
and clogging up some of those holes. Be very impactful
for a six round pick, in my opinion, Go check.

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Speaker 5 (31:00):
All right, just after three o'clock here in the Mile
High City as we roll through Day three of the
twenty twenty five NFL Draft. We are live from Broncos Park,
powered by Common Spirits, Ryan Edwards, Benjamin all Bright, Zack Seegers.
Will he be here until the conclusion of the draft.
Of course, We're gonna hear from Sean Payton and George
Payton as they speak with the media following the draft,
and Benjamin al Bright and I will have a chance

(31:21):
to sit down with the GM George Payton get his
thoughts on the draft hall. Of course, the Broncos are
also going to be adding UFA's afterwards. So very very
busy day for the Denver Broncos. Earlier today the fourth round,
the Broncos selected edge rusher Q Robinson. We had a
chance to chat with him for a few moments after

(31:41):
he was drafted in the fourth round and ask him
about that first moment of getting the phone call from
the Broncos and what's that like.

Speaker 13 (31:48):
You're very emotional, man, just you know, seeing my family,
just the phone call. Man, We've been on edge ever
since the day started, so you know, just to get
that sigh of relieve is pretty cool.

Speaker 16 (31:59):
Man.

Speaker 13 (32:00):
Just really excited, man, you know what I'm saying, Like like,
I'm just happy to be on a team man, let
alone Darvid Broncos. You know what I'm saying. I'm super
hight right now. I have a lot to you.

Speaker 8 (32:12):
Big legacy of edge rushers here at Denver, obviously Von
Miller probably the most prominent name recently. How does it
feel to be added to that legacy?

Speaker 17 (32:24):
Man?

Speaker 13 (32:24):
It means a lot, man, I definitely am just super
excited to get there and just have the team win
as much as I can, rather if it's on sets
of teams or you know, on defense.

Speaker 6 (32:38):
Rick lewis here a color analysts for the Denver Broncos.

Speaker 14 (32:40):
Rick, go ahead, Hey you congratulations man, You're coming to
a great city and a great franchise. How much time
did the Broncos spend with you in the pre draft process?
Was this a bit of a surprise for you getting
drafted here in the fourth round?

Speaker 12 (32:57):
No, it wasn't.

Speaker 13 (32:59):
I I wouldn't say an overwhelming amount of time together.
But you know they've expressed there, you know, interesting me
at the Combine East West Bowl and you know, from
that point on, we've just been in touch, you know,
here and there. So you know, I've always felt like
every pretty interested.

Speaker 12 (33:16):
You know.

Speaker 13 (33:16):
It was just you know, a matter of just you know,
getting that phone call.

Speaker 5 (33:22):
K Robinson joining us here one of the newest Denver Broncos.
One of the things that you're described with as mature
and humble. As I'm reading a little bit of a
description about you, what do you attribute that to? Who
in your life has sort of inspired you to have
maybe that disposition?

Speaker 13 (33:40):
Oh, my mom was definitely. You know, she's just one
of those hard working women and she just believes and
just you know, just working your tail off for everything
that you want. You know, everything is not given and
if it is given, giving back and work your tail
off for you know what I'm saying. And she's just
one of those women. So you know, I get it
from my mom. A very strong individual and I'm just
sprised and to me.

Speaker 6 (34:03):
Well, Q, we really appreciate the time.

Speaker 12 (34:05):
Man.

Speaker 5 (34:06):
Congratulations again on being drafted by the Broncos.

Speaker 6 (34:09):
We can't wait to meet you when you come out here.

Speaker 13 (34:11):
Yes, sir, I'm happy to be here, man.

Speaker 6 (34:15):
Do it awesome? All right? Ke Robinson?

Speaker 5 (34:19):
That was fun, fun conversation there with Hugh Robinson and
again more of a developmental edge rusher for the Broncos
out of Alabama, but a guy that can play on special.

Speaker 6 (34:28):
Teams right away, and it was it was you.

Speaker 5 (34:31):
I think it was actually Zach saying that that Nick
Saban said he's one of the best special teams players
he's ever had.

Speaker 6 (34:39):
Yeah, I want to take credit for your works, of course,
please do.

Speaker 7 (34:42):
And I think that coming from Nick Saban, especially that
speaks volumes, he can immediately impact the game right away,
which I think is big on special teams because the
Broncos lost a lot of special team snaps this offseason sneakily.
You know, Tremon Smith was your leading snap count getter
in that third phase with four hundred snaps. Define he
might not be on the roster next year with the
additions at safety and whatnot. He had two hundred and

(35:04):
seventy for you, And that's just scratching the surface. They've
got a lot of special team snaps potentially to replace,
and they've added some guys between Trent Sherfield, you know,
and now a Q Robinson, some guys that can immediately
replace those key special teams players.

Speaker 5 (35:20):
Jimmy Horn Junior off the board to the Carolina Panthers.
So we had Lejonte Wester at picked two three to
the Ravens and now with the Panthers, Jimmy Horn Junior.
Also Cameron Williams from Texas and offensive tackle that you liked, Zach,
he is going to the Eagles. Guys that Eagles just
keep taking offensive tackles. I mean it's good, hey, it's smart.

(35:40):
They're gonna be set forever.

Speaker 7 (35:41):
If Cameron Williams is healthy, Like that's the question with
him coming out, so you know, injury concerns make him
fall this far. But if he's healthy, I love this
move for the Eagles. You know, Lane Johnson's not going
to play forever as as great as he's been on
that right side for them. Now they've got another option
kind of how they set up, you know, the rugby
guy on the left side a while back. They they've
now got a future guy with a lot of talent

(36:02):
who can eventually take over for Lane Johnson and they
don't have to skip a beat.

Speaker 5 (36:06):
At tackle, all right, So the Eagles just selected Powell
Ryland out of Virginia Tech at edge at two nine.
The Ravens are on the clock here at two ten,
if the Cardinals, the Ravens again, the Raiders, Chargers, Raiders,
and then Broncos.

Speaker 6 (36:20):
So a little run on senior receivers there, yeah, a
little bit, yeah, a little bit. We see will Shepard
go here soon? Who knows?

Speaker 7 (36:27):
And Lejonte Western now a division rival of his quarterback
Shore with Srador going to Cleveland, Lejonte to Baltimore.

Speaker 6 (36:34):
See if they do a jersey swap. Legendary very yeah,
would be legendary. Hashtag hashtag legendary.

Speaker 5 (36:41):
So the Ravens got a couple of picks here, the
Raiders have a couple of picks, and then the Broncos
is gonna be selecting.

Speaker 6 (36:46):
What do you think here?

Speaker 5 (36:47):
I mean again, we've kind of rolled through a lot
of the players that.

Speaker 6 (36:54):
Were on the board when they were at one ninety seven.

Speaker 5 (36:57):
I don't think a lot of those guys have really
come off on a you know, Cameron Williams out of Texas.
I know that was one that you were eyeing there.
But for the most part, if you're you know you
want a running back. We've talked about some of the
running backs. You want to tight end those those tight end. No,
no tight ends have come off the board since then.
I feel like the Broncos have put themselves in a
pretty much spot here and we got a Nias Peebles

(37:19):
just talked about him a moment ago from a vision
and tech.

Speaker 6 (37:21):
He just went off the board defensive tackle. It'd be
a fun pick.

Speaker 8 (37:24):
You know, some team has a chance to do something
funny because the first UDFA deal has already been struck.
The Jags, You're gonna sign Ukon defensive back Jordan Wright.
But the draft is obviously not over yet. So I'm
guessing Jordan Wright realizes he's not going to be drafted
and he has an agreement in place with the Jags.
But somebody has a has the opportunity to do something
pretty funny.

Speaker 7 (37:43):
Well, yea, if anyone hasn't graded even as a priority UDFA,
you can maybe now think, hey, maybe we can get
this guy we wanted in the seventh as a UDFA
and block out the Jaguars, make sure we get uh
this Yukon dB we had circled to.

Speaker 8 (37:56):
Me, That's that's pretty funny. I don't think you want
to announce, I mean, I get it. Maybe you're trying
to draw up a market for some else to come
up with a bigger signing bonus.

Speaker 6 (38:01):
But I certainly wouldn't you know to me, that would
be bad for him.

Speaker 5 (38:05):
All right, let's take a very quick weak right now,
because I want to make sure we're back in time
for the Broncos selection, assuming I'm not going to trade back, So.

Speaker 6 (38:11):
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Speaker 5 (39:00):
We're to pick two twelve here with the Baltimore Ravens
that we have a Raiders Chargers Raiders pick before the
Broncos pick at two sixteen, and that will round out
the sixth round of the twenty twenty five NFL Draft.
The Broncos now with two selections remaining. They traded back
from one ninety seven. They acquired two sixteen and two
forty one from the Houston Texans and we'll see what

(39:23):
they ended up doing with this. So speculation out there,
Ben is that they might take a punter here at
some point, So we are on punter watch.

Speaker 6 (39:33):
That will uh, that'll like the uh, the critics on fire.
Maybe a lot of hot takes out there. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (39:40):
Yeah, people are not gonna be happy with this Broncos draft.
I mean, we're already seeing it. But I think there's
plenty of strong picks in it. I think there's a
lot of I don't know, I'm higher on this draft
than most. I think they've addressed positions of need that
we're not only going to be needs this year, but
needs going into twenty twenty six and twenty twenty seven.

Speaker 5 (39:55):
Five, six, six, nine zeros are KWA common Spirit health
text line well texts coming in here, Tess Johnson, come
on down. Could be they might be leading a two
forty one too. I don't even think he Yeah, I say.

Speaker 8 (40:07):
I don't even draft him, but you know, we'll see
another one.

Speaker 6 (40:11):
Damien Martinez come on down. That would be great.

Speaker 7 (40:14):
I'd love that.

Speaker 6 (40:14):
That'd be a really good pick.

Speaker 7 (40:15):
And the nice thing with Tes Johnson. Sorry, I think
you probably feel confident that if there are multiple teams
looking for his services on the priority free agent market,
you can bring him in because he's Bonix's brother. You
think he want to come back in and play with
his brother.

Speaker 5 (40:29):
That's a really good point this one, Ryan, when you
said let's ride and paused, I think Broncos Country briefly
went to a dark place.

Speaker 6 (40:35):
Yeah, that's fair. That's that's on me. That's on me.
I should have continued that sentence. It was one of
the interviews.

Speaker 8 (40:40):
One of the guys at the end of the thing
was said, was about to say that, and then he
cut himself short. He was about to say Broncos Country,
let's ride, and then he cut himself short.

Speaker 6 (40:47):
I think I think it was save you on but
I had to go back and listen.

Speaker 8 (40:51):
You could tell the every pook because hes a Bronco
Country and then he, you know, said something, Oh what
would be.

Speaker 5 (40:55):
A bigger fau paw Broncos nation or saying let's ride.

Speaker 6 (40:59):
Let's ride. Yes, you don't know things?

Speaker 8 (41:04):
Yeah, would fans the country let's throw Yeah, what's that?

Speaker 7 (41:09):
Do you think fans would be offended or upset by
that after kind of getting cursed the last time?

Speaker 6 (41:14):
Yeah, I think the fans. The fans would be like, oh,
you know, don't do that, you know, please, I promise
you could do it once? Yeah, what you do one time? Once?
It's like Spider Man says, yeah, everybody gets one.

Speaker 8 (41:25):
But yeah, the Broncos country, like you never you know,
nobody knows what's in the country, the nation, kingdom, Paradigm
whatever you're calling it.

Speaker 6 (41:31):
You know, paradigm which which team slipped one in? Slipped
one in? Synergy got a synergy in yet? But I
slipped the paradigm And you think you're so clever.

Speaker 5 (41:40):
I've been I'm working with you way too long because
I know exactly what.

Speaker 7 (41:43):
You have every draft paradigm synergy in every draft.

Speaker 8 (41:46):
I haven't gotten a synergy in yet.

Speaker 5 (41:50):
You got a chance, do you have? Do you have
some kind of like deal? Is there like an endorsement
thing that we're not aware of? The like Synergy cologne thing.
It's made from down on as you often did your
root pace.

Speaker 6 (42:04):
My hair root paste. Wait for bits of real kangaroo.

Speaker 5 (42:09):
This would you guys are really enjoyable to listen to.
Thank you for your coverage, go Broncos. I appreciate that. Yeah,
we found we had a great I mean, look, we
have a great time.

Speaker 8 (42:16):
We do it for you guys, so hopefully you know,
hopefully you guys are enjoying it. This is not uh
you know, we enjoy doing this and you know, us
going loopy like this here at the end, it's always
is always fun too.

Speaker 6 (42:25):
You're getting loopy.

Speaker 8 (42:26):
I'm just getting going that you've begun to defile yourself.

Speaker 5 (42:29):
Yeah, you keep saying, hey, you want to take a break.
I'm like, I'm good, I feel great.

Speaker 6 (42:32):
Yeah, I feel better.

Speaker 8 (42:33):
I wanted to take up because so that he'll like,
you know, get the crash from like, yeah, you know.

Speaker 5 (42:38):
A falsely probably pass out. I think it's one of
those like I just gotta rush through. Ye like its
eighth Celsius here, you know.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
The segment.

Speaker 5 (42:52):
The Broncos should take the kicker you take that's my
favorite rob The Broncos should take the kick from temple,
no real reason other than him hitting multiple sixty plus
yarders at sea level.

Speaker 6 (43:04):
That would be fun. Mile high. Yeah, it would be
a hunt. But we got a punter, any other specialists.

Speaker 5 (43:10):
We need to find a way to take Let's ride
back from the dark Side.

Speaker 8 (43:13):
Well, we could always make it the Montel Jordan's song
from nineteen ninety eight.

Speaker 7 (43:18):
The follow up to this is that we do it.
You guys didn't listen to.

Speaker 6 (43:21):
R and B in the nineties. I see, I think.

Speaker 7 (43:23):
I don't have a great catalog of nineteen eighty eight
music in my head.

Speaker 6 (43:26):
On ninety eight.

Speaker 5 (43:27):
Music ninety eight, Sir Ruggers cornerback, Robert Longerbeam going to.

Speaker 6 (43:33):
The block, hardly know. Oh my go wow, that's a
that's a good pick. That was a good pick. That's
wrong with you? Stop listening to him. I didn't do
it me.

Speaker 12 (43:45):
Listen.

Speaker 5 (43:45):
I would give you some some career five right now,
whatever you want to do with the rest of your career.

Speaker 6 (43:49):
Don't mimic anything this guy's doing. Yeah, well, you know,
yeah exactly. You see.

Speaker 8 (43:53):
You weren't here when you saw a legwall the other
day and he was talking to Cosmider and he's like,
you know, an eight plus human being.

Speaker 6 (43:58):
Wed we put the sticker on you on the draft board.
Then he turned to me and he's like, you're off
the board.

Speaker 5 (44:04):
I'm just saying like, like, if you start showing up
in sweatpants that come up to your calves, I'm sorry,
I'm gonna have to have an interventional.

Speaker 6 (44:12):
I'm just you'll be you have an intervention. We're gonna
all gather around me. So don't let them shame you.

Speaker 8 (44:18):
If you want to wear a shirt that's the from
the Chaps Ralph Lauren collection from nineteen ninety eight, you
were perfectly welcome to.

Speaker 7 (44:24):
What if I split the difference and I wear the sweatpants,
but I make sure there aren't holes in them?

Speaker 6 (44:29):
Active, Yes, I think that's no good.

Speaker 5 (44:31):
Oh are our guys gonna be bummed about this one?

Speaker 6 (44:36):
Oh no, I feel bad for up there.

Speaker 5 (44:39):
Oh no, you know Montana state quarterback.

Speaker 7 (44:45):
I think it would have been a very fun piece,
you know, to try and recreate the Taysom Hill thing.
If that's what the young quarterback they want to invest
the pick in and try and figure that out.

Speaker 12 (44:53):
I don't.

Speaker 7 (44:54):
I mean, Chip Kelly's a good offensive mind, I don't
know if he's going to be able to figure that
out at the NFL level, I'm fine with them kind
of burning a late sixth round pick on that one.
I thought he makes much of an impact for them.

Speaker 5 (45:05):
No, I I think it just would have been fun
for us, Like the Broncos at two sixteen selected him,
just we would have been like, oh my goodness, he's
doing it. Yes, the Taysom Hill experiment is back. Yeah,
we're back on now.

Speaker 7 (45:20):
We let Chip Kelly get the you know, I'm just
saying I just thought I don't know, I needed to
prove it to me at the NFL LEF. And I
know he's rehabbed his image of the Ohio saying, I
think he's a good offensive mind. How many Taysom Hills
have we seen happen in the NFL. There's been plenty
of weird writing.

Speaker 6 (45:35):
Daily is still out.

Speaker 9 (45:36):
Here, all right.

Speaker 8 (45:36):
You can go get you could go get the Heisman
nominee from from an army.

Speaker 6 (45:40):
I'm just saying, nobody stretch in the final. Ninth place counts.
Ninth place.

Speaker 12 (45:48):
Place.

Speaker 6 (45:49):
I think you reach it a little bit.

Speaker 5 (45:52):
That's only because you basically called his biddie Heisman. Voters
sweating everybody. I mean, you would nick with it, would
put him on. I'm sweating everybody.

Speaker 9 (45:59):
I know.

Speaker 8 (45:59):
It was like put this guy on there, I swear
I'll ruin you publicly, but we just scared blankly, like
you do your worst. Yeah, we've hosted with you. You
can't do anything worse to me.

Speaker 5 (46:09):
Text here after the draft been or are you depressed
or glad it's over?

Speaker 6 (46:12):
Both? Absolutely both.

Speaker 8 (46:15):
There's a simultaneous like, oh my god, and then there's like,
oh my god, I gotta wait another year for that.
It is a comp It is a joyous and masochistic
experience sitting through the NFL Draft, I will say that,
and then like the hopes up and down, like like
because as much as we're on the air, do it
all kind of stuff, like, there are players that I
hope that they get. There are guys that I hope
that they get. Some of them are public about some,
but there are guys that I hope.

Speaker 6 (46:36):
That they get.

Speaker 8 (46:36):
And then you're like, ah, like, dude, going to the
Raiders really upsets me.

Speaker 6 (46:41):
I'm upset right now. How about you? Are you depressed
or glad it's over there?

Speaker 7 (46:45):
Zach Seegers, I mean, I'm kind of excited. I feel
like this whole process is like the build up to
Christmas Day, you know, and then right now we're unwrapping
the presence, and I kind of savor that that afterwards
where I can go back watch more of the film.
I don't have to limit myself to two three games
a guy, because I know I'm not wasting my time
at that point, and I can just dive in and
be like, Man, what are these guys the Broncos got?

(47:07):
How are they going to help the team? I think
it's like the peak of hope season. Offseason is always
a little the half glass for glass half full. I
feel I'm always a little optimistic, and I think that's
especially true after the draft. Some people will be a
glass half empty looking at some of these guys and
thinking about.

Speaker 6 (47:23):
What they aren't for the Broncos.

Speaker 7 (47:24):
But I think you can look at every single pick
at at least they've made so far, and have a
pretty clear idea of how this player will help the
team in twenty twenty five, but twenty twenty six and
beyond too.

Speaker 8 (47:34):
One of my favorite Andrew Bratt stories every year about
the draft and after the draft is when they sign
in all the free agents after the draft, and he
said he was negotiating directly with the we worked for
the Packers, negotiated directly with the player didn't have an agent.
And he says, Andrew Brad tells the player, Okay, all right,
we'll do a three year contract and a signing bonus
of a thousand dollars. And the player hesitates and he's like, well,

(47:54):
mister brand I'm sorry, I've only got tw hundred bucks
right now, but I promise I'll bring the other eight
hundred when I get there. And he's like, no, no, no, no, no,
we pay you. So these guys just want to play
the game man so badly.

Speaker 5 (48:06):
We'll have We have another player off the board here,
sorry by the RJ. Mickens from Clemson safety going to
the Chargers. So the Raiders have one more pick for
the Broncos pick at two sixteen. The Broncos are on
the clock. Now, see if they move back again. I
would be little surprised, would be. But it's not to
say that the can's.

Speaker 8 (48:23):
Not impossible, but I yeah, I don't think they would
do it again.

Speaker 9 (48:28):
Here.

Speaker 5 (48:29):
Yeah, so it's two sixteen. See here, Yeah, so we
got the yah. The Raiders pick here and.

Speaker 7 (48:37):
Then Broncos are two forty I think.

Speaker 5 (48:39):
And then for the Broncos in the seventh round. Same
with that, I'm really interested to see here. Again, there's
a lot of really fun options. It is kind of
a bummer that though Montana State quarterback, that.

Speaker 7 (48:50):
Would have been a very fun seventh round pick. That's
like the perfect seventh round pick.

Speaker 6 (48:54):
Little fit adjusted it to make him a wide receiver here.

Speaker 7 (48:56):
Yeah, he's being listed as a receiver.

Speaker 6 (48:58):
Huh. That's yeah, that makes more sense a little.

Speaker 7 (49:03):
I can see him making an impact for the Raiders
in that sense.

Speaker 6 (49:06):
Yeah, he's not here.

Speaker 7 (49:07):
You know, he's not gonna be He's not gonna be
a quarterback then of a level.

Speaker 8 (49:12):
I mean he's with quarterback to Kalete Low, he's a receiver,
running back, wildcat or whatever you want to call him
at the pro level.

Speaker 5 (49:17):
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(49:40):
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Speaker 7 (49:48):
Raiders just took another FCS quarterback. Wait, yeah, they just
took another SCS quarterback, Cam Miller, North Dakota State quarterback.
So they are just making sure Sean Payton does not
have the option?

Speaker 6 (49:59):
Yes, yeah, you know the whole.

Speaker 5 (50:01):
Thing I said earlier about teams, especially in your division,
trying to block players from your team getting them.

Speaker 6 (50:07):
That's what I maybe I take that back, yeah.

Speaker 5 (50:08):
Because they literally took two players that we could have
had some fun with.

Speaker 6 (50:12):
But the Raiders just they aren't fun immediately before the
pick too.

Speaker 7 (50:15):
And you gotta think the Broncos when the Raiders are
on the clock there at two fifteen, aren't expecting them
to go with the other FCS quarterback prospect and immediate succession.

Speaker 6 (50:25):
That's a yeah.

Speaker 8 (50:26):
No, cam Miller will be a quarterback at the NFL level,
but Tommy will go to receiver.

Speaker 6 (50:31):
Makes sense. So he ran like a four to three
nine something like that. Tommy, he was ridiculous. Yeah, he's silly,
very high scoring rast guy. So the fun this.

Speaker 5 (50:42):
Will be the final pick of the sixth round for
the well final pick of the sixth round, but the
pick here for the Broncos will be the pick there,
and then they have another one in the seventh round.
We'll see what they end up doing here. Any last
second prediction here, Zach Seegers, Man.

Speaker 7 (50:59):
I've let okay going inside? Uh Man, they took Peebles.

Speaker 6 (51:03):
I was a guy.

Speaker 7 (51:03):
I was like, oh, you know what I like? I
like Jay Toya out of U. C.

Speaker 11 (51:07):
L A.

Speaker 7 (51:08):
I really think they could use some extra bulk up front.
Jones and Robinson are both kind of a tweeners, little
kind of edge guys. Jones will move inside, but he's
going to be smaller for that position. Toys just a
big two gapping run stuff for strong as heck. I
think that'd be a really great pick, and he would.
He's the guy who you can draft even at the
bottom of the sixth round here and he's going to

(51:29):
immediately have an impact for your team and a valuable
one in here one.

Speaker 6 (51:33):
Been any last second predictions?

Speaker 8 (51:35):
I said, no, lack in the last one. The linebacker
out of Buffalo, So I'll go with that one.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
For now.

Speaker 6 (51:39):
Okay, I like that.

Speaker 18 (51:40):
I like it.

Speaker 6 (51:41):
I think I don't oh Man, Damian Martinez.

Speaker 7 (51:45):
The pick is not in yet, by the way, Yeah,
Martinez is still available. That's that would be a really
fun pick.

Speaker 5 (51:51):
Yeah, it just feels like a class that would be
a good spot to double up, right, I mean that's yeah.

Speaker 7 (51:58):
Put yourself in the position where you don't need to
estimate to make a big leap this season, and if
he does, that's great. Hey, now you've got three guys
you trust in the backfield and you can give them
all the ball. But last time the Broncos played a
game and it was a playoff game, it wasn't you know,
just a preseason where they're messing around. They chose to
have him be a healthy scratch, which I just can't
get that over my head, especially when it was in

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favor of Tyler.

Speaker 6 (52:22):
They're going with, they go with the punter and there
it is interesting.

Speaker 7 (52:26):
I like it, all right, they needed they needed something
to round out that room. You know, whichever guy ends
up being their punter, now you can at least have
some level of confidence that they ended up with the
best option of these two. I'm glad they're casting maybe
not a wide net, but a net that's wider than
one individual.

Speaker 6 (52:45):
Jeremy Crosshaw. We got it. We got a punter. O
don'ta Where is he? The Bama guy is a Florida, Florida, Florida.

Speaker 7 (52:53):
Oh yeah, he's the one with the ridiculous mustache too.

Speaker 6 (52:56):
I remember, Yes, I got a picture him right here.
We'll see. Yeah, he's get this wide like mustache. Yes,
he definitely does. Grant would be Grant would respect that mustache, mustache,
slicked hair.

Speaker 5 (53:11):
Yeah, six four ninety eight pounds, the absolutely third mustache.
He's a four year punter for the Gators. Okay, and uh,
I think if I'm not mistaken, it might be which
is gonna be very exciting to be able.

Speaker 6 (53:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (53:29):
I attended Pro Kick Australia before earning a chance to
punt in the United States.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
There you go.

Speaker 6 (53:34):
Oh man, this canna be fun to interview. Yeah, this
is get this guy. I can't I can't wait. Jeremy Crosshaw.
I hope he has the accent. He's from EMU Planes Australia.

Speaker 8 (53:44):
Yeah, EMU planes named after the bird.

Speaker 6 (53:50):
Probably a battle. Do I look like a person sad Emu?

Speaker 9 (53:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (53:56):
I forget your vegan, vegetarian, whatever, same difference.

Speaker 19 (54:00):
Such an honored dream coming yeast like this is crazy.
When they told me I get to announce a pick
for the NFL Draft, I.

Speaker 6 (54:09):
Literally ran all over Green Bay.

Speaker 19 (54:12):
I felt exactly like Terrell Davis.

Speaker 20 (54:17):
Crazy.

Speaker 6 (54:19):
You guys are so nice.

Speaker 19 (54:21):
You're so nice, your hospitality is top tier. You literally
made me feel like our own team beat yours in
a Super Bowl or something.

Speaker 6 (54:33):
So nice.

Speaker 19 (54:35):
And how about that helicopter flyover in round one? I
have not seen a better helicopter formation since John Alway.

Speaker 6 (54:49):
Oh, you're so nice. I love Wisconsin.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
Woo.

Speaker 19 (54:53):
So, with the two hundred and sixteenth pick in the
twenty twenty five NFL Draft, the Denver Broncos select Jeremy Crosshaw,
punter Florida.

Speaker 6 (55:06):
Welcome to the mall High City Broncos. All right, there
you go. Who was that man? All right? So there
you go.

Speaker 5 (55:15):
The Broncos have selected a punter, Jeremy Crosshaw, out of
Emo Planes Australia.

Speaker 6 (55:23):
But he went to Florida.

Speaker 7 (55:26):
Yeah, that was a very funny hype speech for a
punter selection. Yeah, got the call final.

Speaker 5 (55:31):
Selection of the sixth round. But yeah, I can't wait
to talk to him Man, so first punter off the board.
The Broncos wanted some competition there, they traded back they
able to do this, so yeah, man, I'm I'm I'm interested.
And again he's Australian, so this interview coming up is
going to be a lot of fun.

Speaker 6 (55:50):
What are you doing there, Ben, I'm to floating a
picture of that out there right now.

Speaker 7 (55:53):
He ranked thirteenth and net punt average last year on
the collegiate scale, so pretty high up there among one
hundred and sixty eight teams that are in the PFF system.
And then he's seventh in terms of the amount of
punts landing inside the twenty. So you know, seems at
face value, at least off off the stats, like a
pretty pretty solid selection there.

Speaker 5 (56:14):
I wonder how Bronco. You know, Broncos fans will have
the different mixed reaction. But if he's keep, he's good.
I mean, listen, Putters is one of those deals where
if you've got a really good one, it's it's an
absolute weapon for your team. And last pick of the
sixth round.

Speaker 7 (56:28):
I mean, maybe you wish they saved it for their
very last pick, but I mean, how many punters are
you going to feel great about in a given draft
one or two, you know, making sure you land that
guy right now, I think makes sense. Again, it is
a sneaky, big need for this team. It's a forgotten position.
So we haven't talked about it a ton. But they,
I mean, they don't have a punter on the team

(56:49):
that was a starter last year.

Speaker 6 (56:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (56:51):
Why are the Broncos sending out this picture when they
could have had the one that.

Speaker 6 (56:55):
I sent out right here with the cool mustache.

Speaker 8 (56:57):
They have just get the Bronco colored tie on they
you know, they said this picture and they could have
sent out the real picture of Jeremy Crawshaw with the
mustache and everything.

Speaker 6 (57:04):
What are we doing here? Come on PR team.

Speaker 5 (57:07):
By the way, I swear, if you do your root
pace joke with him, I'm believing it was absolutely Oh
my god, I mouth, did you get.

Speaker 6 (57:14):
Me a hookup? Please?

Speaker 5 (57:19):
God, please don't try to drop your Australian active to
an actual Australia So.

Speaker 6 (57:27):
It's just not funny. And now I believe myself for
even bringing it up. It's actually my fault in the end.

Speaker 8 (57:32):
You I had already this plan was already hatched when
the minute I found out he.

Speaker 6 (57:35):
Was from EMU Planes. Have you ever before? Are you
gonna to ask like tourism, like, oh yeah, tell me
about Emo planes? You ever seen the castaway in real life?
Ask him about the EMU war.

Speaker 8 (57:47):
I'm gonna ask him how close EMU Planes is to Perth,
where I spend a summer.

Speaker 6 (57:54):
We're basically we know what you don't like Google mass
cool interviews gonna be about me? Well, well like every
interview that made to be fair. Yeah, you gonna ask
him about replacing somebody on bed.

Speaker 7 (58:07):
You gonna sub yourself in thank it for the extra points?

Speaker 12 (58:09):
Do you let?

Speaker 6 (58:10):
Do you let the quarterback?

Speaker 13 (58:11):
Do?

Speaker 6 (58:11):
Do you sub yourself in for the when you play
mad God? Because your places the place you're insufferable?

Speaker 5 (58:18):
All right, So we're into the seventh round here as
the Denver Broncos do have one more selection at pick
two forty one. But Jeremy Crosshaw putter from Florida, who's
speaking with the local media right now, and then we're
gonna get him on the phone here in just a
matter of moments and get a chance to ask him.
The Dallas Cowboys are up a pick two seventeen to
start the seventh round. Quinn you are still out there, Ben, Yes,

(58:43):
they could. J. Toyer the cam Miller.

Speaker 8 (58:46):
And uh uh and and Tommy he touched down Tommy
up there at Montana, both went before quinn yours.

Speaker 6 (58:51):
It's incredible. J. Toya your guy. Yeah, Bomber Dallas Cowboys,
you see it like draft.

Speaker 7 (58:57):
I think the Cowboys are having a really nice trap,
which is partfect the course for them, but they just
never get anything out of it.

Speaker 8 (59:02):
I Uh, Who's who's left there in uh in the
next few pictures, Miami gonna pick because that feels like
the Quinn you were spot.

Speaker 6 (59:10):
They do fifteen.

Speaker 8 (59:13):
Connection there between Starkeisia and Mike McDaniel, you know, back
there in Atlanta, Dan Quinn. So I wonder, if you know,
maybe maybe Sark is telling them to draft him and.

Speaker 7 (59:25):
There's some offensive overlap there, you know that of r
PO heavy stuff, quick release stuff. I think that's a
lot of what Quinn youwers did best, and the Dolphins
could use getting an insurance option in there as Toa's
contract starts to escalate here and in case you know,
it doesn't get a lot better from him.

Speaker 6 (59:41):
I'm actually complete with you on that.

Speaker 5 (59:43):
And I thought that maybe they would consider looking at
a quarterback earlier, to be honest, Yeah, understanding right exactly.
I mean that that's at that point. You can't say
that adding again a depth running back or even a
depth anything would would beat the possibility of having a

(01:00:04):
starting quarterback if your starter right now goes down.

Speaker 7 (01:00:07):
Yeah, they drafted like running back four Yeah Olie Gordon,
who's gonna be their fourth running back or so in
the sixth round. I guess should would have been off
the board at that point, but I'm surprised. Yeah, they
could have used the quarterback earlier in this thing. I
guess they still, you know, want to roll with to it,
but this is a solid backup plan in case it
does go to a bit like horribly wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:00:26):
I just can't wait to ask this guy about that
lip ferre it that he's got going on there.

Speaker 6 (01:00:31):
Don't call it a lip fair, police, God, do not
call it what.

Speaker 7 (01:00:35):
He's gonna be confused these picks based on.

Speaker 8 (01:00:40):
Picture alone that they do in the sixth round with
card Julio last year. Yeah, and then you got this
guy this year like I'm the winning, We're winning.

Speaker 9 (01:00:47):
Like.

Speaker 7 (01:00:49):
Is going to be insane?

Speaker 6 (01:00:50):
Yeah, okay for it for Dane Brugler.

Speaker 5 (01:00:53):
This was his top punter available, So for what it's worth,
that's another elite position, right, taking the top cornerback on
the board for the Broncos and in round one and feels.

Speaker 6 (01:01:02):
Like the second Rizzie pick of the day.

Speaker 5 (01:01:07):
Yeah, I mean you would think so, right, serious observation, Well,
that's right.

Speaker 6 (01:01:10):
Everything you say you.

Speaker 7 (01:01:11):
Have to filter it two ways. He's been being serious, But.

Speaker 6 (01:01:14):
Yes, I had I had to think about it in
terms of you, Oh, I mean this is second Rizzie
pick of the day. Yeah, you think Q's probably won.

Speaker 21 (01:01:21):
Though he does fit I mean he's a special team's
ace with with upside, so yeah, any but he does
fit what we've seen Peyton like out of those edge
rusher positions, kind of the lighter body guys, good burst.

Speaker 6 (01:01:32):
Could Ben get test Johnson here in the seventh round.

Speaker 8 (01:01:35):
I don't think you have the draft him. I think
he can just you just tell him now, I look,
we're not drafting. We'll sign a pe pudfa. We'll give
you a bigger bonus. Just turn down the calls for
anybody else be doubled it.

Speaker 7 (01:01:44):
Yeah, if he if he really wants to go elsewhere,
I'd let him get drafted. If someone else is that
fired up about him in the seventh round, I'd be
happy rolling the dice on that because if he does
become an undrafted free agent with see which seems very
likely right now, it'd be stunning in my opinion, if
you went anywhere button number.

Speaker 8 (01:01:59):
You can't be one hundred and fifi pounds and above
four or five and you're forty and playing in the NFL.

Speaker 6 (01:02:03):
You just can't all right, five six, six hundred zero.

Speaker 5 (01:02:05):
If you want to react to the selection of Jeremy Crosshaw,
who was a former rugby punter is now a kicker
for the Denver Broncos. He was obviously with Florida on
a scholarship over the last five years.

Speaker 6 (01:02:20):
I'm going to talk to him here. In just a
matter of moments.

Speaker 7 (01:02:26):
You mentioned he was ranked his Bruger's best punter, also
the only punter to receive a better than seventh round
grade from Bruger.

Speaker 22 (01:02:31):
He had.

Speaker 7 (01:02:31):
That's right fringe sixth seventh round guy, that's exactly where
he went. So for the people mad about maybe reaches
for Harvey or Bryant, you can't maybe say the same
thing about the punter.

Speaker 6 (01:02:39):
Can't be upset about that one.

Speaker 5 (01:02:42):
Let's see your Jeremy Crosshaw told the media just moments
ago that a special teams coordinator, Darren Rizzy worked him
out pretty good in conjunction with pro Day, took him
out to lunch.

Speaker 6 (01:02:52):
Okay, well then there you go wonder with a had
I don't know, maybe some memo. So Wallaby, all right.

Speaker 5 (01:02:58):
Let's head out to the hotline and bring on Jeremy Crosshaw,
the newest Dever Bronco. Jeremy, thank you so much for
the time. Congratulations you were a Dever Bronco. How was
that phone call?

Speaker 6 (01:03:11):
That was awesome.

Speaker 20 (01:03:13):
I've been waiting today to see what happens and I
couldn't be happy with the result that I have.

Speaker 8 (01:03:19):
You know, we were just we were looking and we
saw the profile picture here. Man, that's a heck of
a mustache that you've got. Uh you're bringing out here.
Our producer here used to have the raining mustache here
in town. But you're gonna get them a run for
the money.

Speaker 20 (01:03:31):
I would love to I used to stall a couple
of years ago, but I think the humidity down here
in Florida kind of all the wax would sweat out
and it would lose its form.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
So keep it tidy.

Speaker 20 (01:03:40):
These days, it's gone out if I needed to, Yeah, you.

Speaker 8 (01:03:44):
Need to you come back out here, you bring that.
It's dry out here, we don't have the humidity, so
bring that thing back. That's that's that's that's a winner.
You need to bring that back.

Speaker 7 (01:03:50):
Yeah, just mind Yeah, and speak speaking of the elevation
out here, how do you go about adjusting, you know,
as a pun or to that. It's going to help
you put the ball further, but I imagine it also
makes some of those precision moments trying to pin opponents
inside their own twenty harder. How do you make that
adjustment to the elements.

Speaker 20 (01:04:12):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to heading out there and taking
advantage of that altitude, but when it comes to things
like that, and just put a bit more hang time
on it, stay on the safe side if you need to.

Speaker 6 (01:04:22):
But I think it shouldn't be difficult.

Speaker 20 (01:04:24):
I played a sport where precision off the foot was
needed at all times, so it shouldn't be a problem
at all, And I think a quick adjustment.

Speaker 5 (01:04:33):
Was it always a dream of yours to go from
from rugby to American football? Is that something that you
were actively seeking when you went to Florida.

Speaker 20 (01:04:42):
Yeah, I probably since about twenty sixteen. I've had this dream,
so it's been a long time coming, spent a lot
of time training in different places for it, and ended
up in Florida and now at Denver, so it's paid off.

Speaker 8 (01:04:58):
Are you the most notable at Lead ever to come
out of EMU Hills other than the legendary cricketer Edward Evans?

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
Maybe it might be up for debate.

Speaker 20 (01:05:08):
I can't say that one myself, but yeah, great little
town if you're playing, So shout out to them, all right, last.

Speaker 6 (01:05:16):
One here for you, Jeremy. You really appreciate the time.
So in your time at Florida, what was sort of
a memory that.

Speaker 5 (01:05:24):
Will sort of stay with you and be something that
you say, Okay, I got this out of college.

Speaker 20 (01:05:34):
For me, I think it's honestly being part of a team.
Throughout the years, I've coming on with so many different guys,
a lot of them hy draft pics and others who
went on to just work regular kind of jobs. And
I think for me, those memories with everybody that ever
spent time with has been something that's stuck with me,

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and those are things I look back on during my
college career.

Speaker 8 (01:05:58):
And finally.

Speaker 5 (01:06:01):
Fantastic, Well, Jeremy, really appreciate the time. Congratulations, very excited
to meet you here in the coming days.

Speaker 6 (01:06:07):
Thank you so much for the time.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
Man, all awesome, Thank you so much.

Speaker 6 (01:06:12):
All right, Jeremy Crosshaw punter for your Denver Broncos. That
was a lot of fun. You're such you're so ridiculous.
Research threw off so hard. He's the most famous cricketer
to come out of Emo Hills. Tell me one other
thing about him. About two Edwin Evans.

Speaker 8 (01:06:28):
Yeah, he retired in nineteen twenty one after nearly twenty
year cricket career.

Speaker 6 (01:06:33):
He's just heard that. He's like, ah, look that up here,
but keep playing with me, Zach. All right, man, that
was fun. He obviously, uh, really playing the sport of crickets.
We can't do it. It's like this, the Nate Bergazi sketch. Impossible.

Speaker 7 (01:06:51):
Edwin Evans had some impressions.

Speaker 6 (01:06:54):
Look at that he had the goat beard.

Speaker 9 (01:06:55):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:06:55):
I'm just telling you the text lines losing their minds.
I can't even read half of the but you guys
are great. Uh this one from Keith Roland. I'll read
this one. Cross Shaw is a great pick. I've been
saying for two months. He's the guy we should be
looking at in this draft. So well done by our
front office. Finally somebody says something good about this draft
other than us.

Speaker 9 (01:07:14):
We have said.

Speaker 6 (01:07:15):
We have said a ton of great things, but good stuff.
Keith Orlando.

Speaker 5 (01:07:20):
Yeah, I mean we've we've been blotting this draft class,
but I don't know. People have been accusing us of
betting paid to do such a thing.

Speaker 9 (01:07:27):
So well.

Speaker 7 (01:07:28):
I mean, we are paid to be here, but there's
no extra incentive to say the class.

Speaker 5 (01:07:36):
I am glad, so Roger, that's really funny. I'm glad
that I didn't bring that reference up. Dumb and dumber
put another strip on the barbie. I'm glad I didn't
bring that up before. Would have been like you see
double dubber baby, you double dubber wa do you think
about crocodile dun tee?

Speaker 6 (01:07:52):
You for the worst? I already can.

Speaker 7 (01:07:54):
See any of that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
I don't, let's be.

Speaker 6 (01:07:56):
Honest, best behavior. I talked about the cricket player from
his home town. Come on, I thought he was gonna
hit us with a that's that's not it's not a noise,
but you didn't do the repaced joke. So I was
on my best behavior for that one, all right, or
a version of that guy I wish inside is my
best behavior. You can keep up nineteen twenties cricket players.

(01:08:19):
I didn't look anything up.

Speaker 7 (01:08:20):
It turns out he actually died in nineteen twenty.

Speaker 6 (01:08:22):
So his his cricket career seventy two.

Speaker 7 (01:08:24):
It was it was long over by nineteen he died.

Speaker 6 (01:08:27):
Went okay, well my bad.

Speaker 8 (01:08:28):
I got my historical facts messed up, and twenty one
was important.

Speaker 6 (01:08:31):
See do something next? Play a way. He retired. He
never played cricket, glads, did you say it away? He retired,
retired from you know, entire life because shit Scott said earlier.
Is surprising. He's still alive.

Speaker 5 (01:08:47):
Interesting, it's interesting he's still alive. All Right, we got
to take a quick break, do we got it? We
really have to take a quick break. Where are we
at in the seventh round as we're kind of rolling
through things two with the Cody Lennenberg just went off
the board. Yeah, so we're at two twenty three now
the Broncos picking the two forty one.

Speaker 6 (01:09:06):
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Speaker 8 (01:10:16):
Jeremy Crosshaw newest addition to the Denver Broncos the punter
with a if you get on Google Images, Glorious Mustache
says he's.

Speaker 6 (01:10:25):
Bringing it back just for us. We may have talked
him into it. The Broncos now have a type.

Speaker 8 (01:10:29):
If you've got a sixth round mullet mustache combo, you
think car Julia last year. They've they've got a type
there in the in the sixth rounds. Seriously, little Broncos
bringing it up on a pretty good punter too, booming
him out there at the Senior Bowl. Most people had
him consensus great as the top punter in this draft.

Speaker 7 (01:10:45):
Yeah, I'm just looking up some stats here on the punter.

Speaker 6 (01:10:47):
It's impressive.

Speaker 7 (01:10:48):
Twenty seven punts inside the twenty to just four touchbacks,
so precisions there. And like I said, he's tenth in
a net punt rate, so he can boom it down
the field too. I think this is another like you said,
is he pick? I imagine he's very excited to have
a punter he can do a lot with, at least
on the punter scale.

Speaker 8 (01:11:05):
He did tell the media during the scrum there that
he'd had he'd had meals with Rizzy and that bit
of thing, so you know, obviously a target. This isn't
something that they didn't plan and just kind of winged it.
This was something that they'd been searching.

Speaker 6 (01:11:19):
For for a bit and and made it happen.

Speaker 7 (01:11:21):
It makes the trade back look a lot better too.
Rather than sticking at what was it, two fifty seven
and taking a punter or one to fifty seven, whatever
it was. You know, you get back, You still get
that player you were probably going to take that spot anyways,
and you get an additional pick, so you know you're
not only adding a punter, you're adding a punter and
maybe a more impactful offensive defensive player too.

Speaker 8 (01:11:42):
Freak out the top of the seventh round. We already
talked about Toyo going to Dallas. There the defensive tackle
at USA. Jack Nelson, the offensive tackle of a Wisconsin,
goes to the Atlanta Falcons at picked two eighteen. Thomas Fadellens,
second tight end out of Nebraska to the Giants at
to nineteen. Marcus Bryant, offensive tackle that of Missouri goes
to the New England Patriots it picked two twenty. Jodah

(01:12:04):
Manheim out of the USC the center, goes to the
Jags at two twenty one. Cody Linnenberg, linebacker out of Minnesota,
to the Raiders at two twenty two.

Speaker 6 (01:12:13):
Damian Martinez running back.

Speaker 8 (01:12:14):
Guy.

Speaker 6 (01:12:15):
We've been sitting there talking about for a while.

Speaker 8 (01:12:16):
Goes to the Seattle Seahawks there and picked two twenty
three running back out of Miami Caante Hamilton, the defensive tackle,
a lot of Rutgers at picked two twenty four, and
the Arizona Cardinals take Catan Crawford safety out of Nevada
at two twenty five. Steelers on the clock with pick
two two six. The Denver Broncos at two forty one
would be their last pick of the day. And uh,

(01:12:38):
what do you think, guys? I mean, tight ends still
still out there, although you know, maybe you're maybe you're
just written that off at this point. There are still
a few running backs, few receivers. And then of course
the linebacker I mentioned, Shon Dolt.

Speaker 7 (01:12:51):
Yeah, Sean Delett. That's an interesting name. It seems like
they definitely have some interest in him there. They could
use some depth at linebacker, some tight end options. All right,
was overlooking Ben URIs this whole time. He's kind of
another one in that Gadsden brinding stool mold kind of
moved tight end receiving specialist. You know, maybe they decide
to go that route.

Speaker 9 (01:13:11):
CJ.

Speaker 7 (01:13:11):
Dipper out of Alabama. You know, not a lot of
proven production but tested really well. Maybe can be that
more in line option future for buying Troutman. I think
there's a lot of avenues they could go here. You
should feel pretty happy with Seth McLaughlin the center. I
keep going back to that one just because you know what, October,

(01:13:32):
he was the number one center in this class. Has
a bad injury, and you know now he's all the
way down here. I'm fine taking the roll of the
dice on his injury history at this point in the draft,
especially with Wattenberg potentially playing his last season in Denver
here in twenty twenty five, it'd be nice to get
that insurance plan on the roster, give you some extra
flexibility with how you want to address the offensive line

(01:13:53):
moving forward after this season.

Speaker 8 (01:13:55):
Yeah, you know there's there are some offensive linemen that
are still available here. I think we talked about check Jersey. Yeah,
we talked about holding. Let me go to receivers first.
I don't think ISAA a bond beyond their thing. But
Tes Johnson is still out there again. I don't think
you have to draft him, but he's still at there.
Ricky White is still out there. Nick Nash still out there,
Zaviy Orstreppo still out there. You've still got some some

(01:14:15):
some decent receiving talent there here available in the seventh
round and trying to look through.

Speaker 7 (01:14:21):
McCoy is an interesting one, very hyped up high school prospect,
bounced around a little bit in college, never really quite
fit together or pieced it all together. But he's still
you know, you see the athletic traits that made him.
I think he was the top five player in his
high school class coming out. You see the athletic trades
there again. At this point in the draft two forty
or whatever, That's where I'm fine, you know, let's roll
the dice on some trades. You guys, some high upside

(01:14:43):
guys that maybe have some holes in their game, But
you know, why not at this point in the draft
swing for the fences.

Speaker 6 (01:14:48):
Yeah, I could. I could definitely see it.

Speaker 8 (01:14:50):
Mentioned the linebacker a Buffalo schan Dolc, somebody that's that's
out there that could be as well. Somebody gave add
some depth to that room. In terms of running backs,
Braschard's Smith still out there for miss mu laquent Allen
from Syracuse two of the guys we've talked about here
as well, that doted that Edwards Michigan as well.

Speaker 7 (01:15:07):
Yeah, I'm not the biggest Edwards fan, but I really
like Rishard Smith, a converted receiver, and Laquin Allen. I
think he's a great third down back. I think he's
better in pass protection than you'd expect from his size.
I doubt they go that angle, though, just because those
guys seem a little redundant to me, with R.

Speaker 6 (01:15:25):
RJ.

Speaker 7 (01:15:25):
Harvey, kind of those smaller receiving focused backs, you know,
not not going to help you in pass per which
I think is maybe the area they need to shore up.
I'd like to see them if they do go running back,
maybe a Kyle mannung guy who's not flashy but a
good blocker House and or Reheem Rockett Sanders. I think
he's the Arkansas transfer to South Carolina. He'd be another

(01:15:47):
interesting option to maybe balance out that room.

Speaker 12 (01:15:49):
In terms of.

Speaker 8 (01:15:49):
Quarterbacks, Quinn, youwer still sits out there here in the
in the seventh round.

Speaker 9 (01:15:55):
You know that.

Speaker 8 (01:15:56):
I think that probably surprises a few people. There were
some comps out there to brock Ardy with him. You know,
you'd think all the quarterbacks that have gone on ahead
of him. I don't think any of the other guys
are really that draftable Max Bros, mur Seth Haigan, Taylor Elgers,
Brady Cook. Those are not guys I think you're making
a draft pick investment. And I did find it interesting
that the Raiders went back to back on athlete quarterback

(01:16:18):
guys that are probably position changes between Cam Miller and
Tommy Mallatt at now get introduced as a wide receiver
and that makes a lot of sense, but both those
guys kind of kind of wildcat quarterback, more position change guys.

Speaker 6 (01:16:31):
Right before the broadcast picked Upunter. Yeah, the Raiders.

Speaker 7 (01:16:34):
Added some interesting offensive pieces. You know, those are some
non traditional weapons, but really talented athletes if they can
get him rolling.

Speaker 6 (01:16:41):
Of course, they had Ashton gent.

Speaker 7 (01:16:42):
With their their first round pick, Jack Beck in the
second round, I think is also really exciting. You were
hyping up a Dante Thornton junior and actually looking at it,
they go three picks in a row with kind of
the weird, funky positional list guys because you go Malott Miller,
and then the pick before a lot was Toe Goose,
who's you know, full back defensive tackle hybrid at Ole Miss.

Speaker 6 (01:17:04):
They played them at full back a lot Yeah, we're
going to up here to the top of the hour.
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Speaker 8 (01:17:57):
Welcome back to continuing coverage of the Bronco NFL Draft
on the Kiway Broncos Radio Networkman, all right, Zach Seeger's
here with you, right and we're stepping out for a
few Just just be a lacey evil like behavior, you know,
quitting on us here in the seventh round. He said,
these guys are unimportant. He does he's too big time
to have to talk to him.

Speaker 6 (01:18:14):
So Ryan just you know, just left the set.

Speaker 7 (01:18:16):
Yeah, entirely, forgeta boy. He said, I'm glad you're here
at least to show me, you know what a positive
work ethic is, right, It's.

Speaker 8 (01:18:21):
Important to have humble, hardworking people here continuing this and
absolutely no one is buying this monologue that I'm giving
you right now.

Speaker 7 (01:18:27):
They were taking a page out of the Broncos playbook,
prioritizing that character.

Speaker 8 (01:18:32):
Right right right, absolutely, how it is a couple of
picks have come in his facial expression right like I'm
gonna murder you both.

Speaker 6 (01:18:40):
A couple of picks have come in here.

Speaker 8 (01:18:42):
As the Steelers take Carson Bruner, the linebacker out of Washington,
his dad was a tight end for the Steelers as
currently a scout for the Steelers as well.

Speaker 6 (01:18:49):
Mark Brunner. So what a story there for Carson Brunner
and getting the chance to go go to work with
his dad.

Speaker 8 (01:18:55):
Curtis Rourke, the quarterback Indiana, goes to the San Francisco
forty nine Ers. So the two hundred twenty with pick
for Shard Smith, the running back out of SMU, goes
to the Chiefs there at two twenty eight, Dante Kent
out of Central Michigan's corner goes to the Steelers of
two twenty nine and Dan Jackson, safety out of Georgia
goes to the.

Speaker 6 (01:19:12):
Detroit Lions at pick two thirty.

Speaker 8 (01:19:14):
Broncos to reset the table took Jade Barron, the corner
out of Texas in the first round, r J. Harvey,
the running back out of Central Florida and the second,
Pat Bryant, the wide receiver at Illinois. The third save
On Jones, the defensive lineman I listen of the fourth,
Q Robinson the linebacker al Obama in the fifth and
Jerry Crosshaw, the punter from Florida. The Australian took him

(01:19:35):
in the sixth round. Still got to pick here to go.
We had a chance to talk to R. J. Harvey
briefly after he was selected. We started off asking him
what it was like to get that phone call Tooper.

Speaker 23 (01:19:45):
Scited so crazy because right before I got that phone call,
I just felt I just felt it about to happen.
I just felt my name about it be called. I'm
just I'm just so excited that on the coaches staff
of the Gay everybody h you know, they toosed me
to come to Denver Broncos and I'm to the Denver
Broncos and I'm just excited to assowcase my skills to

(01:20:07):
Bronco Nason. I'm just don't want to do whatever I
can to help the team.

Speaker 8 (01:20:12):
Well, back when I was in high school, I got
to play against it up becoming coach named Gus Malsan.

Speaker 6 (01:20:16):
You actually got to got coached by the man. What
was that experience like there at Central Florida.

Speaker 23 (01:20:22):
Yeah, it was, it was, it was.

Speaker 8 (01:20:23):
It was a great experience.

Speaker 9 (01:20:24):
You know, me and me and coach Guz.

Speaker 23 (01:20:26):
Uh that's my guy, you know. Uh, he he loves
running the ball. You know, you want to go straight
at you. Uh, that's that's what he That's what he
loves to do. And my time with coach Guts it was,
it was, it was, it was great. You know, I'm
I'm super blessed. But have h I've been a player
for coach Gusts and uh it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
Got me this far.

Speaker 23 (01:20:46):
So I'm I'm happy for him. I'm happy r J
R J.

Speaker 6 (01:20:51):
Nick Ferguson here.

Speaker 17 (01:20:52):
The one thing I love about your game is how
you operate in space, and a lot about the NFL
is being able to make guys miss and open space
with a lot of grass. What would you attribute to
that skill set that you have in making guys missing
space too?

Speaker 23 (01:21:08):
Yeah, that's you know, I work.

Speaker 6 (01:21:12):
I work at it all the time, you know.

Speaker 23 (01:21:15):
You know, that's that's that's a big part of my
game that I focused on. You know that I want
to consistently get better, get better at that. And there's
plenty more things I know for sure I need to
get better at. And I'm I'm just uh ready to
get up a bit different and just get to work,
you know, just showcase my skills.

Speaker 6 (01:21:32):
Man. Last couple here for you, r J Harvey joining
us here.

Speaker 9 (01:21:37):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:21:38):
You know, one of the things that I think the
Broncos were really looking forward to finding is running back
in this class that had tremendous receiving skills, and that's
something that you had a chance to really show off
there at UCF as far as it, you know, at
the pro level, I mean I imagine a lot of
that still translates pretty well. And would you say that
that was ultimately one of your biggest strengths as as

(01:22:00):
a pass catcher and running back out of the backfield.

Speaker 9 (01:22:03):
Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 23 (01:22:04):
You see, we didn't really you know, I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:22:06):
I don't.

Speaker 23 (01:22:07):
I didn't really have that. We didn't do too many
like passes to the running back, you know, but every
time that we did, you know, I try to make
the most out of it because I know that our
offense didn't really consist of it. But uh, there's plenty
of times in practice where I've you know, I've caught
the ball and uh made plays. And in the game
as well. The coaches they know they're getting out of me.

(01:22:27):
They picked me for a reason to come up to Denver,
and uh, you know, I feel I can do it
all and I'm just ready to just get to work.

Speaker 11 (01:22:35):
That's it.

Speaker 23 (01:22:36):
I'm just ready to get to work.

Speaker 15 (01:22:38):
Well.

Speaker 8 (01:22:38):
Sean Payton offenses have had a lot of great running
backs in it.

Speaker 6 (01:22:41):
I think Al kamaras the name most recently.

Speaker 8 (01:22:43):
People look at your scouting report, they compare you to
guys like Bucky Irving, Dvde Chain.

Speaker 6 (01:22:47):
Lies and Mitchell Who would you say you most pot
of your game.

Speaker 23 (01:22:50):
After I'm trying not to really compare myself, but you know,
I love watching other guys like Jamirik Gibbs, uh, Christian Caffrey,
say Kwan of course, Aaron Jones. You know watching those
guys and uh, you know, I just I just watched
all of them, and I just watching how they carry

(01:23:12):
theirselves throughout the game, and uh, you know, I just
just trying to try to take for what I don't.
I don't really try to compare myself, but yeah, those
are the guys that I really pay attention to.

Speaker 22 (01:23:24):
R J.

Speaker 17 (01:23:25):
Last one for me here obviously, Once again, I go
back to watching you on the film. In your vision,
I know Ryan Evers, he and I were talking about
it before you came on with us. I mean, when
you think about joining the Broncos offense and understanding that
you you're going to be behind a massive offensive line,
and this is something that Champagne has preached on as

(01:23:46):
far as being able to create a lot of space
with his running backs. I mean, when it comes to
to your vision, what is something that you look forward
to once the ball is handed to you?

Speaker 23 (01:23:58):
Yeah, you know, every time I touched the ball, you know,
my mind says to score, you know. But yeah, like
like you said, uh, it's a big officer line. You know,
I'm excited to get to get to know those, know
those guys, and uh, you know, it's just uh getting
to work with them, and you know they're gonna they're
gonna help me. I want to I want to make

(01:24:19):
them look good and uh, they hope they gonna make
me look good, you know. And yeah, I'm I'm I'm
just ready to get to work, get to know, get
to uh, get to know all those guys, get build
a relationship with all of them.

Speaker 12 (01:24:33):
R J.

Speaker 5 (01:24:33):
We are really thrilled for you. We can't wait to
meet you. Congratulations again, Thank you so much for the time.

Speaker 12 (01:24:38):
Man, Thank you so much.

Speaker 23 (01:24:40):
Thank you that great night, you too do.

Speaker 6 (01:24:44):
His Bronco r J. Harvey apparently Ryan at Lake Tag there.
I didn't know that.

Speaker 8 (01:24:52):
There we go, Yeah, Rjie Harry the newest running back
to the never Broncos uh out of Central Florida, get
a chance to sit down and chat with him right
after he found out he's selected.

Speaker 6 (01:25:00):
Yesterday, a couple.

Speaker 8 (01:25:01):
Other selections come off the board, a couple of interest.
One interest to the Broncos quinn ewers quarterback called Shot
there goes to Miami. You get the Mike McDaniel Steve
Sarkisian connection there that probably start calling up Mike McDean
and saying, hey, stop slide after that. Immediately after that,
the Colts select a player that had been linked to
the Broncos and Hunter Wooler out of Wisconsin.

Speaker 6 (01:25:23):
Guy Jim Leonard was was very familiar with.

Speaker 8 (01:25:25):
He's actually gonna play linebacker in the NFL and not
safety at least for the Colts.

Speaker 6 (01:25:30):
And then Kyle Monoghi.

Speaker 8 (01:25:32):
Out of Rutgers, the running back goes to the Chicago
Bears that picked two thirty three Broncos at two forty
one left. What do you think about yours to the
Miami Dolphins there, I.

Speaker 7 (01:25:43):
Mean, I think it's a great fit. I think it
makes a lot of sense. I think, you know, that
Sark offense very RPO heavy, lots of quick passes in it.

Speaker 6 (01:25:50):
I think that makes him a kind of natural fit
to be to his backup.

Speaker 7 (01:25:54):
We saw, you know, to a go down and the
Dolphins offense completely collapse because so much of it is
based on his timing, his comfort in the offense and everything,
and that's very hard to replicate. I think Quinn yours
is one of those guys who could maybe replicate that
timing to an extent if you give him enough time
and maybe be the long term backup for two of

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there in Miami. Maybe even John's for a starting job.

Speaker 6 (01:26:16):
If everything goes right, well, there you go, that'll be
the chance for him.

Speaker 8 (01:26:19):
I think probably the best landing spot for him at
that point. You know, don't call him million dollar baby
Mason Richmond, not the Tommy Richmond.

Speaker 6 (01:26:26):
Goes to the Seattle Seahawks. There the tackle out of Iowa.
Two thirty four.

Speaker 8 (01:26:30):
As we get ever closer, seven picks away from the
Denver Broncos, why don't we want to break a little
bit early here and then it gives us time to
get through some of these other picks and get ready
for the Denver Broncos pick coming up. Final pick for
the Broncos. It looks like at this point of two
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All right.

Speaker 6 (01:27:12):
The seventh round is coming close to an end.

Speaker 5 (01:27:15):
The Broncos still have a selection here at two forty one,
though it will not be Tes Johnson as he was
just selected. Moment to go, I blame Benjamin Olbright by
the Buccaneers at two thirty five. Le Quent Allen another
name we brought up a lot out of Syracuse running back.
He got selected by Exeviell Jaguars at two thirty six.
Broncos picking at two forty one, so we will get

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blaming Ben for losing on on Tess Johnson. Once again, Ben,
why he is losing.

Speaker 8 (01:28:19):
Out like losing out to get a four or five
to five receiver.

Speaker 6 (01:28:22):
That's ways less than I do.

Speaker 7 (01:28:24):
Yeah, Tes Johnson falls into the bucket of player where
if he yea, hopefully he works out. But I'm happy
to let someone else find.

Speaker 8 (01:28:32):
There's literally no person out there who is a Broncos
fans that wanted him that did not have that connected
to Bonnicks.

Speaker 7 (01:28:38):
Like if he was not boon Nick's brother, there is
no one in Broncos country they will.

Speaker 5 (01:28:42):
Be advocating for that, like you know, But that is
part of the conversation with Tes Johnson, is it not?

Speaker 6 (01:28:47):
He brother got drafted. He's happy for his brother. I
think it's a nice story. I think he's looking around saying,
like a little better to throw to you here?

Speaker 2 (01:28:53):
Sorry, bro, wow, there you go.

Speaker 6 (01:28:56):
Would you rather have Marvin mimsor Tes Johnson?

Speaker 5 (01:28:59):
That's noting the same conversation because Marvin is the four
to three and change and a second round pick versus
Ted Johnson doesn't about.

Speaker 6 (01:29:06):
I'm sure would you rather which one? Would you rather have? Well, Marvin, okay,
then what are we doing here?

Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
Well?

Speaker 7 (01:29:10):
What seventh round pick is going to be challenging and
starter on the roster, don't.

Speaker 6 (01:29:13):
Don't bring logic to this.

Speaker 8 (01:29:15):
Somebody off the field to put him on there? And
who are you going to take off the field to
put him on there?

Speaker 5 (01:29:18):
Well, there you go, all right, Seattle Seahawks selecting here
two thirty eight. Mike Robinson, cornerback from Tulane, just went
to the Packers, got the Seahawks, Cowboys, Bills, and then
Broncos at two forty one, and then yeah, I don't
round out the rest of the seventh round, which they're
still Oh, I don't know, twenty.

Speaker 6 (01:29:37):
Picks or so to go.

Speaker 5 (01:29:38):
I guess mostly notable, sort of notable. The Patriots and
Chiefs have executed Trey where the Patriots are now selecting.

Speaker 7 (01:29:46):
Yeah, mister irrelevant, did you guys get picks in on
mister relevant?

Speaker 6 (01:29:50):
And older? So sorry, what did you guys get picks?

Speaker 11 (01:29:53):
Did you do that?

Speaker 6 (01:29:53):
Think?

Speaker 9 (01:29:53):
Ever?

Speaker 6 (01:29:53):
You need the bet on who miss what position? Oh?
I don't do you? Did you put a bet in
on who's mister relevant? I did that level of degenerate?

Speaker 8 (01:30:01):
No, I have put better on the position back when
the former team had it. So now it's probably a wash, but.

Speaker 6 (01:30:07):
Probably oh yeah, correct, that was given.

Speaker 5 (01:30:20):
Just ridiculous, Oh so good Ricky White from UNLV wide
receiver going to the Seahawks here at two thirty eight.

Speaker 6 (01:30:28):
They've had a great draft. They had a really good draft.

Speaker 7 (01:30:31):
Wow, that guy finally goes off the board.

Speaker 5 (01:30:33):
Yeah, that's that they've they've had a really good draft.
And uh yeah, they took Damion Martinez running back out
of Miami. We were talking about him a little bit earlier.
Britshard Smith another guy that I really liked. How to
ask him you he went to twenty eight, but once
you took R. J. Harvey, that really wasn't necessarily a
reason to bring Burshart Smith in here.

Speaker 6 (01:30:53):
So you don't don't need that.

Speaker 5 (01:30:55):
But I did like his hands a lot and converted receiver,
and I think that it would have been fun. It's
been more of a fun pick than anything.

Speaker 7 (01:31:02):
Yeah, a weapon that scares you some. You know, the
Chiefs don't have an exposive player like that.

Speaker 6 (01:31:07):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (01:31:08):
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Speaker 5 (01:31:16):
Wait till five o'clock and as we continue to bring
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twenty five and FL draft, so we'll get the player
here over The Broncos end up drafting in two forty one,
as I mean.

Speaker 6 (01:31:29):
They stay put and don't trade back again. Yeah, Ricky
White went to the Seahawks.

Speaker 8 (01:31:33):
Good for Ricky. I'm glad to see him. Like I said,
think he's good player. Didn't think he was coming here,
but good player.

Speaker 7 (01:31:38):
We just had a whole conversation about him. Well I
went to I didn't get to know.

Speaker 6 (01:31:41):
I understanding to know we did a whole thing. Is
like this whole thing I'm aware. Do you want to
do your Australian stuff again? Do you want to go
back to her again? We can bring back Jeremy Croshaw. Yeah,
and that mustache.

Speaker 7 (01:31:56):
He promised to grow it again for us, so I'm
holding to that.

Speaker 6 (01:31:59):
I like how you sold it. Well, hey, you're not
You're you're in elevation now.

Speaker 8 (01:32:03):
Yeah, you don't got to worry about the humidity. That
the wax is fun. You know, you break the wax
back out, We're good.

Speaker 7 (01:32:08):
Yeah, that's exciting. It wasn't even at peak Foreman, Florida.
We're gonna see peak Jeremy Crass. I can't I can't wait.

Speaker 6 (01:32:14):
To get the full mustache mustache exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:32:18):
Uh, Phil maffa running back at Clemson. Okay, going to
the Cowboys. They take another running back here at two
thirty nine. So we got the Bills pick and then
the Broncos. You want to call your shot there, Zach Seeers.

Speaker 7 (01:32:31):
Oh Man, I kept saying his name, but I'll go
back to it. I think Seth McLaughlin. I think he
was one of the best interior players in this draft
until his injury. The injury concerns are definitely a thing,
but at pick two forty one, you could be drafting
the best center in this draft class if he recovers well,
for a team that could use an upgrade at center,
even if they bring Luke Wattenberg back. I think that's

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a great roll of the dice. You know, if it
if it doesn't work out, really no sweat. If it does,
you you found potentially a long term starter at a
position of need.

Speaker 5 (01:33:00):
Kind of one position we really haven't looked at right
offensive line, and there's just gonna be one more draft
that we do not draft an offensive tackle since scare Bolls.

Speaker 7 (01:33:10):
It looks like it, you'd I'd be pretty surprising if
they go tackle at this point, just because I don't
know how many are left. I do like some interior guys,
even outside of mclaughley. Jake Major is another one I've
seen often connected to the Broncos. Clearly they like their longhorns,
so maybe that's the route that go.

Speaker 5 (01:33:24):
Bill's wide receiver. Well, Bill selected wide receiver Kayden Prayler
out of Maryland. So the Broncos are now on the
clock here at two forty one, and once again, assuming
they don't trade back, they'll make their final selection because
I can't imagine they trade back into the seventh round.

Speaker 6 (01:33:44):
But that'd be shocking. I'd be a little surprised.

Speaker 8 (01:33:46):
Yeah, there's not much spots to trade back at this point.
I mean trade out, I guess if you wanted to
trade out completely. But yeah, it feels like it's going
to be a pick. I'm kind of but it's like
I said, I hope it's the linebacker at a Buffalo
seown do like he hasn't gone yet. I thought he'd
be TV pick by.

Speaker 6 (01:34:00):
Now, and we are in the range they could use
the linebacker. They could use the linebacker.

Speaker 5 (01:34:06):
Yeah, we aren't kind of in the range where these
players are are that borderline UDFA slash draft pick. Usually
you're taking a player here that you just feel like
may not be able to convince to come to your
team that you really like and you really like to
bring into camp. And the bronc has had some success
with ud FA, so this is this is kind of

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again once their wheelhouse.

Speaker 6 (01:34:29):
So you go a tight end. Yeah, Caleb bl Utah,
there's the tight end. So Broncos fans.

Speaker 5 (01:34:35):
Should be happy now, I tell you I I took
that a little bit of that break there, just just
reading some of Twitter and people like, why are they
not taking any tight ends?

Speaker 6 (01:34:51):
Sometimes the draft just doesn't fall that way.

Speaker 7 (01:34:54):
And it's not a need that I think is incredibly
pressing for them, you know. I know there's the Evan
Ingrim is more wide receiver than tight end thing. But
you've got Troutman, You've got Adkins, You've got Ingram Now,
I mean, I mean those are three solid bodies in
that room. It's an area I think you still want
to upgrade moving forward, but it's not so desperate that

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you need to make some crazy reach on the position.

Speaker 8 (01:35:17):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (01:35:18):
You know, I think they had other pressing needs and
I think they did a good job addressing him.

Speaker 5 (01:35:22):
All Right, So he's six foot seven two and fifty
six pounds, ran four six let's see here, I'm trying
to get some more information on him.

Speaker 6 (01:35:34):
There's a Utah connection and yeah, you know, this is
one of those things.

Speaker 8 (01:35:38):
Yeah, so they got tipped off said they have the
pipeline there at Utah obviously Devon Valley, so they they've
kind of had the yeah, the pipeline there. So that'll
be you know, that'll be interesting to get George's thoughts
on that. As a basketball player, he was a forward
on the basketball team who ultimately, you know, became.

Speaker 6 (01:35:56):
A tight end.

Speaker 12 (01:35:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:35:58):
I mean he's got only four catches for fifty four
yards so last year.

Speaker 6 (01:36:01):
So I think I think a lot of this is Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:36:03):
I mean, you're just getting a guy that's six foot seven.

Speaker 6 (01:36:08):
I mean, he's you know, giant human.

Speaker 7 (01:36:10):
Yeah, and we've seen the basketball thing work out before,
you know, if it was Antonio Gates, Tonys also Jimmy
Graham with with Sean Payton in the past before. We
haven't seen it hit as often lately, but you know,
for a long time there it was a tried and
true method of finding those freak athlete you know, mismatched
guy's a tight end. Maybe, Uh, this guy has an
upside to realize that. You know, I like to swing

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at least.

Speaker 6 (01:36:34):
No, I mean I too at this point.

Speaker 5 (01:36:36):
I mean, once again, if it's a guy that you
had ticket to either be a UDFA, like if they
announced him as a UDFA signing or after the draft,
and then we'd be like all right, cool, you know, Yeah,
it's the tight end room. I mean, sometimes the draft
falls a certain way and that's that's kind of what
it comes down.

Speaker 8 (01:36:49):
Just started playing football this past year. He's got four
catches all.

Speaker 6 (01:36:51):
For him, went for touchdowns.

Speaker 15 (01:36:54):
There you go.

Speaker 6 (01:36:54):
I mean the jump ball guy on the end zone,
you know, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:36:57):
He absolutely use that I'm here for Yeah, you're right.
Four catches, four touchdowns.

Speaker 6 (01:37:03):
That's amazing.

Speaker 5 (01:37:04):
Yeah, four catches for fifty four yards, averaging thirteen and
a half per catch.

Speaker 6 (01:37:09):
Yeah, that's that's pretty good. It's good efficient, goodficient number there.
So he's go'n be interesting. Nice project. We'll get a
chance to.

Speaker 8 (01:37:17):
Talk to George Payton here a little bit about this selection.

Speaker 5 (01:37:20):
Yeah, our cover is going to go to five o'clock here,
but the George Payton interview will obviously get up on
social media, and then we'll play on our shows on
Monday at KAY Sports as well as Broncos Country.

Speaker 8 (01:37:30):
Broncos would be a Rockies Baseball Monday and Tuesday, so
we'll just be on KA Sports.

Speaker 6 (01:37:34):
Okay, Well, I'm sorry. How about the Rockies lose today?
It was close?

Speaker 7 (01:37:38):
Actually having no idea what actually happened.

Speaker 6 (01:37:40):
How about did they lose today?

Speaker 8 (01:37:41):
I think it's six four the final competitive Yeah, he's
in Rockies, so I assumed.

Speaker 5 (01:37:46):
Okay, Well, anyways, so six foot seven basketball player Caleb
Loner is the final selection to be the Broncos don't
trade back into the seventh round somehow, that is gonna
be the final selection of the twenty twenty five NFL
Draft class for the Broncos.

Speaker 8 (01:38:01):
So I guess, on a surface, Ben, what are your thoughts?
I like to swing and this is the time you
do stuff like that. Late late in the seventh rounds
is the time you take swings on guys like that.
And who knows, I mean a six foot seven tight end,
a pretty tall guy. Uh, that sounds like a great
red zone weapon for me. A guy you can you know,
you can tell by what X say.

Speaker 6 (01:38:20):
Just lob it up.

Speaker 7 (01:38:21):
Let him jump on the pogo stick and lob it
up for him.

Speaker 5 (01:38:24):
I think it's kind of interesting. Again, he's a basketball player, right,
is a forward, so and he's just drafted by the Broncos.
So how where like where is his love?

Speaker 12 (01:38:34):
Well?

Speaker 6 (01:38:34):
Are you are you?

Speaker 5 (01:38:35):
Do you feel like you're a basketball player playing football?
We've seen that, right, We've seen Broncos got a tight end.
Was a basketball with Thomas Juis Thomas Julius Thomas an
example of that. So I do wonder for him, like, Okay,
you're you know, you're drafting, You're you're checking this out,
You're seeing how much you really love it. He's only
played this last year and again we said he had
four catches for fifty four yards and four touchdowns. So
it's not like he's got a ton of playing time.

(01:38:58):
Like what is his uh goals? You know, as a
career goals? You got drafted in the NFL? Okay, what
does that mean to you? Are you are you looking
at this? Hey, maybe I'll go back to basketball someday.

Speaker 7 (01:39:10):
I mean I think not, just because it doesn't seem
like he was that coveted as a basketball prospect. The
minutes declined throughout his basketball career.

Speaker 8 (01:39:19):
His free throw percentage in his final season this past
year was thirty one point three percent. We may have
to ask him about the We mean to ask him
about the.

Speaker 6 (01:39:26):
Ben Wallace like free throw numbers.

Speaker 7 (01:39:28):
Yeah, he's going to be an interesting developmental guy. I
think for the Broncos, people should not expect him to
make an impact in twenty twenty five, maybe even twenty
twenty six. He's very new to football. They're banking on
the athlete here, and he's a very exciting athlete at
face value. You know we've seen and then even the
basketball experience. I know Savion was talking about it with
you guys about how his basketball experience helped his footwork.

(01:39:49):
We've seen that pan out for tight ends a lot too.
But yeah, this is going to be a developmental guy
that that they're stashing, i imagine on the practice squad
for a year or so as they teach him how
to play football be an NFL tight end. But if
he realizes his potentially could be a mispatch nightmare.

Speaker 8 (01:40:04):
Yeah, and what what better scenario for a guy like
that to learn behind than with two Hall of famers
and Rob greg Kowski and Lucas Kroll you know in
this Cinnaria, Well you're one.

Speaker 6 (01:40:14):
Yeah, well I'm not holding back anymore. Well, they had
Evan Ingram at least, you know, I mean, well yeah,
you know they got to be tight end, yeh Ingram.
And then they got Hall of Famers and you.

Speaker 7 (01:40:25):
Know, yes that Kronk news is going to be crazy.
That's probably why they held off on tight end.

Speaker 6 (01:40:29):
It makes sense, all right, five six, six nine zero.

Speaker 5 (01:40:32):
If you want to react not only to the final
selection here of Caleb Blowner will keep you posting on
some of the other draft picks that happened after it.

Speaker 6 (01:40:39):
You want to reset the draft class for everybody? Would
you like to? Since you're driving, so you okay, sure, yeah,
all right, keep you on the road.

Speaker 7 (01:40:46):
Watch out that car. But ahead of a saying of
the brakes.

Speaker 5 (01:40:50):
So the Broncos with the their their pick of twenty,
their only original pick, take John A barn a cornerback.
I'm just checking with you make sure. Oh you know,
this is why you want to eat some pizza. So
you're like, hey, can you reset the draft class so
I can eat you?

Speaker 6 (01:41:06):
Why don't you just say that took you that long
to figure that out.

Speaker 5 (01:41:09):
Okay, oh my goodness, all right, So the Broncos draft
class John A.

Speaker 6 (01:41:15):
Barron RG.

Speaker 9 (01:41:17):
Harvey.

Speaker 5 (01:41:17):
I want to go fast now because because you I
feel like he took advantage of me. After two trades back,
they got RJ.

Speaker 6 (01:41:23):
Harvey. They take Pat Bryant in the third round.

Speaker 5 (01:41:25):
They trade back into the third round sake, saveing on
Jones to start day three. In round four, they took
Q Robinson, an edge out of Alabama. It's gonna be
his course special teams player, but has some development that
that he could get to. Jeremy Crosshaw was a part
of a trade back from one to ninety seven.

Speaker 6 (01:41:43):
They took him at two sixteen, and then just a.

Speaker 5 (01:41:47):
Moment ago, Caleb Loner, who were gonna speak to on
the phone as soon as he's done with the local media.
He's a basketball player for the utah Utes as well
as a tight end six foot seven, two hundred and
fifty pounds.

Speaker 8 (01:41:58):
I'm curious as if he got into any you know,
any prep because he was still playing for the basketball team,
you know this, yeah, up until March, so let's see.

Speaker 7 (01:42:06):
You know, I'm curious if he got any prep in
for all that. You know, how he balanced that. Yeah,
that must have been incredibly difficult. He's wanted the just
to show how deep of a sleeper this guy is.
He's not written up on ESPN's prospect No, I know
what at the athletics, one of the guy a fe
you guys, Dane Brugler didn't write up and you know
he goes six hundred dudes deep.

Speaker 6 (01:42:24):
I know, I'm looking at Dane Brugler's beast right now.
It's like, oh, you know, he's got some kind of
anecdote or something. It's like, nope, nope, tight end fifty seven.
He is number fifty seven on this list of the
next group.

Speaker 7 (01:42:37):
Which, to be fair, makes sense. The Broncos aren't drafting
anything close to a finished product. They're drafting a very
exciting athlete who has for collegiate catches. They all went well,
but that's about as small as a sample size as
you will possibly see with a with an NFL draft pick.
It's a swing for the fences based on traits. But
the traits are very appealing.

Speaker 6 (01:42:56):
Oh and that's that's exactly right.

Speaker 5 (01:42:58):
And we've seen again Jimmy Graham's another example of a
guy who's a basketball player that Sean was able to
get a lot of success out.

Speaker 6 (01:43:05):
Of certainly, would she make him a Hall of Famer?
I don't think.

Speaker 7 (01:43:09):
I think he's a Hall of very good guy. You know,
he had those two three years where he was awesome
and in the conversation with Gronk, but then the moment
he left New Orleans, his career tapered off very very fast.

Speaker 6 (01:43:20):
Isaiah Bond still out there.

Speaker 7 (01:43:22):
I don't think he gets picked right at this point.

Speaker 12 (01:43:24):
No, No, he will be a picked.

Speaker 6 (01:43:28):
He'll get it. Do you think he gets a camp
invite or team somebody, you know, as far as that goes.
So I hope it's not us.

Speaker 5 (01:43:37):
No, I won't be here all right, Kannada Mundfield wide
receiver for Pitt goes to the Rams, Garrett Dellinger interior
offensive lineman for LSU. Get another offensive lineman for the
Baltimore Ravens. Their team is gonna be like all offensive lineman,
defensive lineman should be, and a safety Malachi Starks. And

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we're at pick two forty four with the Detroit Lions,
going to two fifty seven with the Patriots, and that'll
be the end of the twenty twenty.

Speaker 6 (01:44:08):
Five NFL Draft.

Speaker 5 (01:44:10):
So I'll ask you before we get to the newest
Denver Bronco, although it looks like he's wrapping up here
with the local media, and then we're gonna get him
on for second.

Speaker 6 (01:44:19):
Caleb Loner, we'll join us out of Utah. It's a
tight end forward for.

Speaker 5 (01:44:23):
Their basketball team. Looking forward to chatting with him here
in uh just a little bit. Again, four catches for
four touchdowns, I don't I don't think we've ever seen
that kind of efficiency at any level. So he'll be
joining us here in a matter of moments, and then
we'll we'll kind of react to the entirety of the
draft class. And I said, we're gonna have Sean Payton,
George Payton, they're gonna speak with the media here as

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soon as the draft concludes. They'll they'll take some time
wrapping up some of their UDFA calls because they jump
right on that. In fact, they're already probably working on
their UDFA working on that group right now. And then
you know some of the all right, So we'll get
to that in a second, But right now we out
to the hot line on Caleb Loner tied in from
Utah now a Denver Bronco.

Speaker 6 (01:45:05):
Caleb congratulations, Thank you so much for joining us.

Speaker 5 (01:45:08):
What was that phone call like a few minutes ago
when the Broncos called and UH drafted you?

Speaker 4 (01:45:15):
Man?

Speaker 2 (01:45:15):
That phone call was awesome.

Speaker 22 (01:45:17):
You know, I was so exciting. It's something you dream about,
right seeing your name on a on a draft, and
so I couldn't be more excited to get things going
with Broncos. Country Man.

Speaker 2 (01:45:26):
I'm hyped up and I'm ready to go.

Speaker 15 (01:45:30):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (01:45:30):
Caleb, you obviously had the back basketball background, and you
were still playing with basketball right up until March. How
was the Were you doing any prep for for football?
Were you doing any any draft prep or any of
that kind of stuff.

Speaker 22 (01:45:44):
Yeah, you know, I tried to do as much as
I could while playing. It was it was interesting balancing both,
you know. But you know, my focus has been entirely
on football from there out and something that I wanted
to pursue and follow my passion for. And so I'm
excited to just continue it and work on all these
skills and you know, develop my knowledge of the game.

Speaker 7 (01:46:06):
What was your journey like from the hardwood to the gridiron.
That's a pretty big transition, going from you know, power
forward for three four years in school to becoming an
NFL tight end. You know, four receptions to your name.
What has that transition been like? What made you want
to follow that path?

Speaker 22 (01:46:24):
I think just the University of Utah and the recruitment
that they had when it came to I want to
help me be a tight end and reached the highest level,
you know. I think everything that I know now came
from them, and their message to me was just, hey,
we believe you can be a high level tight end.
And so I got to give the credit to them,
and then just you know, everybody else that's helped me
throughout this journey of learning the game, and I'm super

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excited to be where I am I am now.

Speaker 7 (01:46:50):
Prior to that recruiting effort. How much tight end or
football had you played? When was the last time you
were playing football?

Speaker 2 (01:46:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 22 (01:46:57):
Last time I had played in seventh grade. I played
football growing.

Speaker 6 (01:47:00):
Up in Texas, and then from there on I just
chose ball.

Speaker 22 (01:47:04):
So last year it was actually my I guess last
June was kind of the first time I'd put on
a football helmet in a minute.

Speaker 5 (01:47:10):
So cal Lauren joining us here the Broad Coast selection
here in the seventh round. So I see here that
you played in all twelve games. You caught four passes
for four touchdowns, as we were talking about right before
you came on, including one against our Colorado Buffaloes. So,
first of all, are you the most efficient athlete in

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the history of football? Is my first question? Because four
catches for four touchdowns seems pretty good.

Speaker 11 (01:47:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:47:38):
There.

Speaker 22 (01:47:38):
I don't know what the stat is, but I'm sure
that numbers up there somewhere. But man, it was such
an honor to play for a program like the University
of Utah, and I'm all the great coaches and teammates
that I had over there, you know, people that I
remember the rest of my life. So I got to
give a lot of credit to the University of Utah.

Speaker 8 (01:48:00):
You know, the last the last basketball player that Sean
Payton went out got turned into a tight end. His
name was Jimmy Graham. That's some pretty big shoes to
follow in. But gonna gives you a roadmap. How confident
are you and your ability to jump into that transition
to the NFL?

Speaker 22 (01:48:13):
Man, Yeah, you know, I'm excited, and I've just been
telling people I'm gonna take things day by day and
my goal is just to be a little better each day.
You know, I think this development will take time, but
at the same time, I'm here for it. You know,
I chose to play football for a reason, and I'm
excited just to bring everything I can to I'm the
Denver Broncos and give him my all.

Speaker 7 (01:48:34):
On that Utah youth's team, you were with another great
tight end and Brent Keithy, who's you know, also hoping
to get drafted here. I'm curious learning under a tight
end like that who had so much experience in Utah
playing their six years. What did you learn about playing
the position from them?

Speaker 22 (01:48:49):
I learned a ton. Brent, you know, became one of
the mentors for me when I understanding the scheme, how
the offense went, and you know, jumping into a huddle
offense after not playing and football for a long time,
it was a little different. And so to have a
great tight end room, great tight end coach, great offensive
staff definitely helped me in everything. You know, I wouldn't

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be where I.

Speaker 2 (01:49:10):
Am today without them.

Speaker 6 (01:49:12):
Well, Caleb, congratulations, man.

Speaker 5 (01:49:14):
We are very excited for you. Cool opportunity here with
the Denver Broncos. Look forward to meeting you when you
come out here.

Speaker 22 (01:49:20):
Thank you man, I'm excited.

Speaker 12 (01:49:22):
Thank you, guys.

Speaker 5 (01:49:24):
I absolutly appreciate it killed loner. Yeah, four catches and
one against does see you now? They lost forty nine
twenty four. I didn't want to like bring that up
as in a way like, hey, what do you remember
that game, because we say, well, we probably lost a
lot badly. But he had one catch for three yards
and a touchdown in that one of the two receiving touchdowns.

Speaker 8 (01:49:42):
Six foot seven, guy that could jump out the gym
as definitely a quarterbacks friend down in the red zone.
And Sean Payton certainly got a history with turning basketball
players into you know, into tight ends before with Jimmy Graham.
So I'm not gonna sit there and sweat this pick
too much until I again see the vision on it.

Speaker 7 (01:49:56):
Yeah, highlighting the footwork earlier. How we've seen that help
tight ends transition to the NFL. A big area where
it helps him is in that red zone area, you know,
minding the boundary and everything. So I think, you know,
finding the right spot to sit down in zones and
whatnot that I think translates over from basketball and going
against zone defenses there. So you know, it's a swing
for the defenses. Like he told us, hadn't played football

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until this season seventh grade grade.

Speaker 6 (01:50:19):
That shocks me.

Speaker 8 (01:50:20):
I was like, this guy has not played organized football
but one one season of organized football. Basically there was
lively seventh grade football in Texas. It's competitive, but still
it's seventh grade football is getting even played. Didn't even
finish out junior high school football.

Speaker 7 (01:50:31):
On my eighth grade tackle football team, I had more
than four receptions. So between that seventh grade a little
bit of breaking.

Speaker 6 (01:50:38):
Your customers, Zach speakers priority to the FA. But it's
just crazy that.

Speaker 7 (01:50:44):
I mean, great for him, and it's for fun that.

Speaker 8 (01:50:47):
I love the way how you specified to my eighth
grade tackle football team. You wanted to make sure that
he was just tackle. We go into the assumption that
it's tackle football. My flag football staffs were just ungotten
right right, Yo.

Speaker 6 (01:50:58):
We played five flag football with you. We've done that
and then you you crush. Oh that's too kind for
thank you. But also, my speed is not well, there
is no actually it's not what it was twenty I just.

Speaker 5 (01:51:12):
Know every single time we did play flag football, Zach
would line.

Speaker 6 (01:51:16):
Up against me. He'd give a look over to Mario
whoever it was, and be like, I'm not sure picking.

Speaker 7 (01:51:19):
I'm looking for.

Speaker 6 (01:51:22):
Way completely matchup sniping. I know who you are. It's
like I respect you, Ryan, but not that much, not
out here.

Speaker 5 (01:51:29):
So yeah, I'm gonna embarrass you every single time I can.
All right, we're gonna pick two forty seven here for
the Dallas Cowboys, and.

Speaker 6 (01:51:36):
Again we're going all the way to pick two fifty seven.

Speaker 5 (01:51:39):
We'll bring you the comments from George Peyton and Sean
Payton after the draft concludes, and then again we're gonna
have a chance to sit down with the GM George
Peyton right after that.

Speaker 6 (01:51:49):
So looking forward to that. And again, thank you to
our listeners on Ka Mellis.

Speaker 5 (01:51:53):
Ka how who've been hanging with us all morning and
afternoon since we started at ten am, or really for
the draft starting at six the clock on Thursday night.

Speaker 6 (01:52:01):
We've been kind of rolling through.

Speaker 5 (01:52:02):
And obviously a lot of fun the Broncos draft class. Now,
do you want to spend some time, Well, maybe we'll
take a quick break here, we'll come back and we'll
sort of spend some time talking about this class as
a whole, sort of contextualizing it in a way of
what the Broncos needed to accomplish, and what do we
believe that they are capable.

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Speaker 6 (01:53:14):
Go ahead, Ben, I do have a quote from Tess
Johnson here.

Speaker 8 (01:53:17):
Okay, so he's given his interview to the Bucks media
after he got signed by Tampa Bay and tests says
he's disappointed that the Bucks won't play the Broncos this
fall and his close friend and brother bow Nicks quote,
I was gonna give it to Sean Payton.

Speaker 5 (01:53:30):
I just you know, you brought a point about Marvin
Mims versus Ted Johnson, and I think that's actually not
a good one.

Speaker 6 (01:53:40):
And I'll tell you why. And I'll tell you why
because please do.

Speaker 5 (01:53:45):
The draft pick of Tess Johnson would be more symbolic
than in the exes and O's cotton, hold on, hold
on because of what he represents for bow Nicks. This
would be more of a Hey, I know that this
relationship matters to you, and you know what Nicks you
matter to us.

Speaker 6 (01:54:01):
We are going to draft Test Johnson.

Speaker 5 (01:54:02):
Now stop, I'm trying to say that it's not one
of those like your forces somebody out, it's you bring
him into training camp. It's a seventh round pick, man.
None of these guys are guaranteed roster spots. Even the
news tied end for the Broncos loan or he's not
guaranteed anything. So you'd be draft drafting him in the

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seventh round with the anticipation of he comes in and
he competes and if.

Speaker 6 (01:54:27):
He can't play and it's not working out.

Speaker 5 (01:54:29):
BO would see that, and I think there'd been understanding,
you don't have to commit so much to this pick
that you suddenly are kicking out a Pro bowler and
an all Pro returner.

Speaker 8 (01:54:41):
First of all, these picks do matter. Marcus Colston was
a seventh round pick. It started for Sean Payton his
first year at wide receiver. Second of all, we don't
draft symbols. We draft football players. And then third of all,
he is drifting a basketball player. What do you mean,
what are you talking about. He's going to be playing
the sport of football. We draft players, not not symbols.
And then the third part about this is is not
the commitment to Bo's aren't he's a first round draft pick.

Speaker 6 (01:55:01):
They'd have made the commitment. They've been building a team
around it that day. They don't. You know, I don't
think it matters. It matters to Bow. I don't know
if it matters or not.

Speaker 8 (01:55:07):
I think at the end of the day, I think
the thing that would matters when you had to cut
him and you got to call Bow and be like, hey,
we're cutting your brother because he stinks, and we you know,
I mean, like, like I think that would be what
at that point, Bo would have been able to see,
like everybody's seen out there lobbying for his brother, if
that was the case, and probably he might happen probably
feeding him in camp at the end of the day.

Speaker 7 (01:55:24):
No, this was it's it's fine, there's there's absolutely I
have no qualms about.

Speaker 6 (01:55:28):
Not taking Well you don't, but I'm just saying that
Bo might. They don't either.

Speaker 7 (01:55:32):
I imagine he wouldn't. Again, there's a what one thirty
two shot he ends up with your team in theory,
and you know, it might have been nice for the
Broncos to do absolutely, but I don't think. You know,
it's one thing if he was a fourth round talent,
me just keeps falling and what the heck's going on?
I think he was always viewed as a seventh round guy, UDFA,
and he wasn't on the board anymore when their seventh

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round pick came up, Like you know, the Dolphins required
to draft the other Palcy brother.

Speaker 6 (01:55:59):
At the time, Like then they had to move up.
I love you. I am madding to do the backup Peyton.

Speaker 5 (01:56:05):
I love how you're trying to pretend suddenly just because
I said you were wrong. That's really the only reason
you're arguing here. You're trying, well, how dare you? You're
trying to pretend as though the relationships in this business
specifically don't matter suddenly, just to prove a point.

Speaker 6 (01:56:20):
They do for coaches, they don't. For players, they do it.

Speaker 8 (01:56:24):
There's terms of networking and things like that. For coaches
in front offices, they don't. I mean, he's getting a
chance to play. He's get a chance to play for Tampa.
We don't have to worry about because he didn't even
get to the Broncoast pick, and we don't have to.

Speaker 6 (01:56:34):
Worry about him and seventh round pick.

Speaker 7 (01:56:36):
There's a good and Tampa has plenty of receivers. There's
a good. I mean, I hate to be negative, but
there's a decent chance he doesn't make Tampa Bay's roster.

Speaker 8 (01:56:44):
Maybe they bring on the practice squad. Then you don't
have to cut, you don't have to cut him to
do all that stuff. Anyway, him playing, he's reunited with
his teammate Bucket Irving there in Tampa. Anyway, Obviously, that
was the that was the whole point that we're closer anyway,
they're better friends. What do you even organ insider, how
do you lift for yourself? It's just stupid, Like, what

(01:57:04):
are you doing with a four or five five, one
hundred and fifty pounds dripping wet wide receiver in the
first place?

Speaker 6 (01:57:09):
Like who we taking off the field? Put that guy
on the field.

Speaker 8 (01:57:12):
And with all due respect to Test Johnson, who had
a productive career in Oregon, we got guys that can
play what he plays, and they're faster, and they're bigger,
and they're better.

Speaker 7 (01:57:19):
There's just a limit how many negative outliers like I
want with a player. You know, he's a negative weight outlier,
negative height outlier, negative speed outlier. At a point, it's
just it's too much for me. I'd rather let someone
else hit on that again, historical outlier. If they're gonna
find success with it, good luck to him. I'm not
drafting Bryce. You on, We've already got an organ receiver
I don't want on the field.

Speaker 6 (01:57:39):
So geez what.

Speaker 5 (01:57:43):
Okay, maybe I shouldn't ask your opinion for a little while. Okay,
So again, let's contextualize the draft class. We're gonna roll
all the way through to the press conferences and then
we'll have a chance to sit down with the GM
George Payton. I'll start with you, Zach, since uh been
has gone bye by that right here barely so the

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Broncos end up selecting seven players.

Speaker 12 (01:58:09):
Yep.

Speaker 6 (01:58:11):
What do you think of this draft class?

Speaker 7 (01:58:12):
I think it's good, you know, I do think there's
maybe some valid criticisms with you know, could you have
gotten Pat Bryant later, you know, maybe taking Savian Jones
up there and not had to trade up, you know,
out of the fourth round, kept extra capital. I think
you can maybe split hairs about a couple of those
finer details. I think overall it's a really strong class.

(01:58:35):
I like the running back they added. You've got an
instant impact player there who can help solve a pretty
glaring need for you in that room. I don't think
he's far off Trivion Henderson, which everyone wanted. You've got
a very special defensive talent that was one of the
best defensive players in this class, and he can help
you in so many different ways too, which I think
is exciting. It's not just a pick to upgrade on McMillan,

(01:58:57):
it's a pick that can upgrade on McMillan. Riley Mawson
base defense and a little of your safety play too,
maybe even linebacker because him playing safety alas Ufanga to
play in the box more so, you know, I think
that one has wide ranging impact and meaning, uh save
on Jones again. I think that's a great pick that
fells a future need. Every just about every single pick

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I made sense to me. Pat Bryant, I wasn't the
biggest fan of, but like I said, you know, as
up and down as the tape is, he's one of
the most productive wide receivers in college football, even better
at the catch point than guys like Ted McMillan, even
better after the catch than guys like Igbuca and Jayden
Hill Higgins and Jaylen Knowle to where and he had

(01:59:40):
really bad quarterback play too to accomplish all that production with.
So maybe there's something there that that they're tapping into.

Speaker 6 (01:59:47):
I like this draft class.

Speaker 8 (01:59:48):
There's not too many picks here that I that I
dislike or disagree with or any of that kind of stuff.
I mean, the Barren pick, I get it. It is
a top rated guy. You know, you got a top
ten grade on the guy you got to you gotta
do that.

Speaker 6 (02:00:00):
J Harvey.

Speaker 8 (02:00:00):
I think is gonna be as the potential for uh,
you know, for Pro Bowl caliber production numbers in this offense.
The the Pat Bryant thing, I mean, I love the
guy talking to the interview. We'll see, we'll see how
rotation works with all that.

Speaker 16 (02:00:14):
You.

Speaker 6 (02:00:15):
Uh, yeah, you've got a guy.

Speaker 8 (02:00:16):
Who I mean, does this indicate anything to do with
Courtland Sutton, like maybe not signing him, maybe let him
go because you got him vla and and Brian kind
of play the same position.

Speaker 6 (02:00:26):
That's gonna be interesting.

Speaker 8 (02:00:27):
But again, I don't have anything against that pick, you know,
Samane Jones.

Speaker 6 (02:00:32):
Yeah, I mean you got your replacement for John Frankly
Myers there.

Speaker 13 (02:00:36):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (02:00:36):
And then you go on to the Q Robinson, who
was a little like, Okay, I don't know. I mean,
you're deep at edge.

Speaker 8 (02:00:42):
I get the special team's asponent of it that that
probably of all the picks is the one that's the
most head stretcher for me, the Putter pick.

Speaker 6 (02:00:48):
That's obviously that's a need.

Speaker 11 (02:00:49):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (02:00:50):
And then you come back with a project tight end
from a coach that has had a history of being really.

Speaker 6 (02:00:55):
Good with project tight ends. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:00:58):
Day three is a little bit interesting to your point, right,
because you go with a project edge that can play
special teams. So okay, hey Darren Rizzy obviously leaning on
some of the picks. I mean you came away with
three players. By the way, congratulations to you.

Speaker 6 (02:01:14):
Ben.

Speaker 5 (02:01:14):
You said that they wanted three players today, and they
got three players today. You got a developmental edge that
can play special teams, you got a punter, and then
you got to developmental tied end. I think that there
are gonna be Broncos fans out there that are probably
going to look at Day three and saying, Okay, it's
a lot of swings, like upside swings. But once again,

(02:01:36):
then we've talked about this for years, whether we were
on BCT or otherwise, that day three is is a
bit more for those dart throws. I know that there
are some people that will look at Day three say, oh,
there's still some really great high floor players out there,
And yeah, I think there were some high floor players
right there at the beginning of the fourth round.

Speaker 8 (02:01:52):
I don't think they need high floor players. Like this
roster is mostly complete. You don't need high floor players.
You know, you can afford to take swing now that
you've plugged the gaps that you have you went and
got the corner, so that's done. You got the running back,
that's done. Now you're looking around. You're like, okay, we
don't really need anything else. Now you said, look, we
can afford to take swings on those kinds of things.
And that's that's what they did. They got the depth

(02:02:12):
of the d line, they got the depth of edge
with the you know what special teams. They the punter
was need. But uh, now you've got a project tight
end it, you know, to add to the rotation. So
I mean that that should be the strategy Day three
picks or your dart throws. You know, you need to
contributors on day one to two. Day three is where
if you've got a roster that's pretty stacked, which they
believe they do that you can start to look at
this and say, okay, these are where we need to
take swings on high upside guys, and if we miss, okay,

(02:02:35):
we shot our shot, and you know, like Rick Lewis
and my mom, when we.

Speaker 6 (02:02:37):
Move on, oh goodness.

Speaker 7 (02:02:40):
I personally think the day three strategy is solid, you know,
I you know, I guess the loaner is kind of
the weird one to me. But Robinson, crosshaw I think
those are both like, yes, they're both swings, but I
think they're high floor swings. You know, Q Robinson. Maybe
he doesn't develop any of his past rush up side
and is forced to be a special team's ace for

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you for four years. That's a fine outcome for a
fourth round pick. You know, sometimes you find a Terry
McLaurin on Day three. But if you find a guy
who can just be a quality special teams player for
you for the remainder of that rookie deal, and if
he lives up to what Saban said about him again
the best special teamer he's ever coached, you know, he
should stick around to Denver for a long time, at
least as a special teamer. That is a valuable use

(02:03:24):
of a fourth round pick. Not exciting maybe, but valuable. Crosshawe,
I think you needed an additional punter and then loner,
Like that's a swing for the fences, but you know
why not. I think you've got guys who can at
least hang all of them, Like Pat Bryant is maybe
the one they were furthest from consensus on he's going

(02:03:45):
to be better than low George Humphrey from day one,
you know, where he can find a role on this
team in this offense. I think the floors are fairly
high for all these guys, and a lot of them
have very exciting ceilings that I think they can tap
into too.

Speaker 5 (02:03:59):
You know, the thing that you brought out there that
I think is an interesting point is a lot of
these players have differers, have different fingerprints on them. Like
you say, well, that feels like it may be a
little bit more of a George Peyton kind of picked,
that feels like a Sean Payton pick, that it feels
like a Darren Rizzy pick. Vans Joseph obviously impacted not
only your first round pick, because he was a cousin
that coaches coach Baron out there in Texas, So there's

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that relationship.

Speaker 6 (02:04:23):
But not only that. Of course, he's your defensive coordinator,
so he's.

Speaker 5 (02:04:26):
Going to have a say in a lot of these
So I do appreciate to a level of the consensus
of the group, like, hey, we all have our fingerprints
on this roster. It isn't like, hey, we have an
offensive minded coach who is obviously an alpha, who's going
to say I need all of these offensive players because
we came into this draft thinking that that's where the

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Broncos We're going to spend most of their capital on. Hey,
they're going to go heavy on running back. You're heavy
on receiver, heavy on tight end because they got U
surround bow Nicks with talent, and it's very easy, I think,
if you're Sean Payton, to lean on the scale. But instead,
this is a very balanced group that they.

Speaker 6 (02:05:03):
Got in the draft.

Speaker 7 (02:05:04):
Yeah, I think so, demonstrating some excellent synergy.

Speaker 6 (02:05:07):
Well, they're nice. You stole it from him.

Speaker 7 (02:05:11):
Wow, I'm gonna sneak you into the student has become
the master.

Speaker 6 (02:05:14):
I'm gonna sneak to the Payton interview now.

Speaker 8 (02:05:16):
When I you know, when I look at uh, when
you look at this, what this says is what they've
been telling us all along, the same thing we've been
saying here, while everybody else in this stupid market has
been sitting here saying something else. They love their young core,
they love the guys that they've got, They like the
guys they've got, and they like them to get better.
And I think that's this is a resounding emphatic statement

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on that. At the end of the day, I mean, yeah,
they added Harvey and Brian.

Speaker 6 (02:05:39):
But beyond that, I mean, this is a this is
a we love the young guys that we've got. I
completely agree.

Speaker 5 (02:05:44):
But again I come back to the fact that I
think some Broncos fans wanted Sean Payton to lean heavy
on the scale of offensive talent, right. I think that's
what maybe some of the frustration or some of the
outbursts that we're seeing from some fans and me is like, hey,
I really thought Sean was going to come in here
and say I found my quarterback.

Speaker 6 (02:06:04):
Now give me all the what weapons I want.

Speaker 5 (02:06:06):
And they as a group, and Sean Payton as a
coach of an entire team, they chose players that fit
for both sides of the ball, as well as the
third phase and special teams.

Speaker 8 (02:06:16):
I think, yeah, I think at the end of the day,
he came away with you. You come away with I
think your needs stated. I think you got some wants
in there, and you got some projects. And you know,
here's the thing that bugs me. Other people, well they're
not that good. The young guys, most of them.

Speaker 7 (02:06:30):
Were in their first year or at least first year starting.
You know, don't you think those guys are going to
take a leap next year.

Speaker 6 (02:06:35):
Don't you think these coaches have seen these.

Speaker 7 (02:06:37):
Guys in practice every day. Don't you think they're well.

Speaker 8 (02:06:39):
Don't you think these guys who desperately want to win
know what they've got and know what they need.

Speaker 7 (02:06:45):
Yeah, I think there's an element of that that's definitely true.
You know, Estimate, I think this draft like they got RJ. Harvey,
a young guy you mentioned, but he pairs very well
with estimate, and they didn't add another one of those
Thumber types. I think that underlines, you know, faith there.
And who's to say that Sean Payton didn't land all
the offensive guys he wanted. You know, maybe he wasn't

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that high on Hampton. I don't think that's crazy, considering
Hampton's skill set. Maybe he wasn't that high on jaylen Ro.
I mean he could have taken jaaln Royals. Absolutely he
wanted Pat Bryan instead, and you look at his track
record of the receivers. He's pounded the table for Michael Thomas,
a four five seven forty guy who big body, detailed
route runner, you know, a great at the catch point.
A strong player knows how to use his physical frame

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to his advantage. I mean that fits Pat Bryant pretty well.
That's the comparison they even called out. So I do
think there's great energy. You see advance. Joseph guy's getting picked,
George Peyton guy's getting picked, Sean Payton guy's getting picked.
But I also, you know, I don't think necessarily anyone's
having to make sacrifices. It's possible, but I don't. Everything

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I think makes sense. It aligns with their current roster vision,
even if I don't agree with.

Speaker 9 (02:07:52):
All the picks.

Speaker 6 (02:07:53):
You guy, Luke Lache just went, oh, where do you go?
He went to the Texans? Oh okay, yeap, so go ahead,
Dight degrees, Nick Leshey, well ahead. I don't understand it
out of your system. Don't understand the reference.

Speaker 7 (02:08:05):
Jayleen, Jayleen, Jyalen, Jalen, and Luke.

Speaker 6 (02:08:08):
That's even better. The Texans are like, you know, everybody's
on to us.

Speaker 5 (02:08:13):
We gotta we gotta mix this up, guys, guys, last
pick here, uh, the mister relevant pick for the Patriots
is about to happen, and then we have wrapped the
twenty twenty five NFL Draft.

Speaker 8 (02:08:24):
I have a minor wager on a corner being taken
there and I did that when Kansas City held in
the pick. So I don't know if they're the Patriots
will wind up doing that, but we'll see.

Speaker 7 (02:08:32):
They haven't taken a corner back in in a while.
You know, maybe maybe.

Speaker 8 (02:08:38):
I did it with Andy Reid and the Chiefs in mind,
because they like to take DB's late, you know, as projects.

Speaker 6 (02:08:42):
So but yeah, I'm good lucashe got drafted. I think
he's a good, good tight end. Yeah you do. And
you like his name. I don't understand.

Speaker 7 (02:08:54):
I mean, I would know how to produce them. You
gotta give him that.

Speaker 6 (02:08:56):
Nick Nash is signing with the Falcons as the UDFA. Okay, wait,
Heisman favorite Nick Nash favorites.

Speaker 7 (02:09:04):
That's shocking.

Speaker 6 (02:09:05):
No, I can't believe it. Your relations to Steve Nash.

Speaker 5 (02:09:08):
It's just weird that it worked out that way. We're
just doing guys with the same least, that's the bit. Yeah,
we're getting all the UDFA signings here. I'm trying to
just wait until we get the Patriots mister irrelevant selection
and then we put a rap on this thing. But yeah,
I do love again the synergy, if you will, of
the draft. I like the what they put together here

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because Chargers.

Speaker 6 (02:09:34):
I saw that.

Speaker 5 (02:09:35):
Hm, it's because you didn't need as many high floor
guys here. You can take some swings you afford. You
can afford to take the swings because they believe in
the roster. And I think maybe there's a little bit
of that frustration for Broncos fans who felt like they
needed some more high floor guys as then this is
what's going to get you over the hump from ten
wins last year. They view this team clearly, buy this draft,

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and buy their one words as a team that's ready
to take the next step, including winning the division. You
you absolutely could have taken some different avenues today if
you viewed your roster differently.

Speaker 8 (02:10:11):
I feel, yeah, this is a resounding, emphatic vote of
confidence in the.

Speaker 6 (02:10:15):
Young guys that they have.

Speaker 8 (02:10:17):
End of the day, and if people want to sit
there and say, you know that because it's so funny,
it's the same people are telling the show's a genius,
you can't question him.

Speaker 6 (02:10:25):
Well, now they turn around and saying that you know.

Speaker 8 (02:10:27):
Now they're saying he's an idiot, Like I don't you
know the way the pendulum swings, I never know. You
want to see the vision let me see this on
the field, let me see this in training camp before
we say it, because he's the same people that were
making fun of the Devon Vele thing last year and
then he comes into training campan he's falling out. They're
the same people that's insisted that Troy Franklin was going
to be something and then you saw him struggling, you know,
the entire training camp.

Speaker 6 (02:10:46):
And on into the season. So people were like, let's
go to the podium real quick and here the last selection.
Here we'll see in New Park Beach.

Speaker 25 (02:10:53):
You can check visit Newpartbeach dot com or go to
the Bay Cup Cup party.

Speaker 6 (02:10:57):
With us, bring your cheese heads and we like that.

Speaker 25 (02:11:00):
The two hundred and fifty seventh pick in the twenty
twenty five minuteball Draft by the New England Patriots is
Kobe Minor, a defensive back from Memphis.

Speaker 22 (02:11:12):
Oh, kybe.

Speaker 6 (02:11:16):
Way to go.

Speaker 7 (02:11:16):
That's a back cow.

Speaker 8 (02:11:19):
Congratulations Ben, Yeah, it was a defensive back bed at
plus twenty eight hundred.

Speaker 6 (02:11:24):
God, you're such a gamble. What's that number again? Undreds?

Speaker 8 (02:11:30):
Gambling problem? Call her text one eight hundred gambling. As
I get side eyed from everybody here.

Speaker 6 (02:11:36):
As you're celebrating your selection of mister Rell.

Speaker 7 (02:11:42):
Oh, it's been a day that it's a family friend.
He's just really excited that guy got off the book.

Speaker 6 (02:11:45):
Yeah, congratulations to Kobe Minor from Memphis. Yeah, the pick.

Speaker 7 (02:11:50):
Ben's probably been most excited about all day. Honestly, really,
he's like, oh, this is filler please.

Speaker 8 (02:11:55):
That was way more excited for the mustache A true
fair fair, that was pretty good.

Speaker 5 (02:11:59):
All right, we're gonna be having George and Sean down
here just amount of moments is the members of the
media have assembled in front of the podium, so they're
up there, of course, maybe some calls trying to put
their UDFA class together, and then they'll be down here shortly.
And then immediately after that, we'll have George Payton on
our program here and we'll speak to him about the

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draft class and kind of roll through all of it
with him.

Speaker 6 (02:12:22):
And I can't wait to get his thoughts, you know.

Speaker 5 (02:12:24):
I think it's cool we get a chance to chat
with George, not only out at the combine, get sort
of a sense of the roster.

Speaker 6 (02:12:30):
But it's sort of like at the combine, it's like
the beginning.

Speaker 5 (02:12:34):
Even though I know Senior Bowl and all this stuff
is before, it's the beginning and at the very end,
so they're scouting all those guys out there.

Speaker 6 (02:12:40):
And then now we get to the end of this
thing and this is your draft class.

Speaker 8 (02:12:42):
Yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna be fascinating to some
of the udfas that they signed here. Wouldn't be surprised
to see a couple offensive linemen, like I.

Speaker 6 (02:12:49):
Said, and I do think that Nash Jones will be
one of those that Texas state.

Speaker 9 (02:12:53):
We'll see.

Speaker 7 (02:12:54):
Yeah, I tied to them throughout. I would love to
see them keep adding bodies on that offensive line, even
if it is you DFAs. You know, Jerry's still out
on Frank Frum, but they absolutely seem to have hit
on Paul Jeski.

Speaker 6 (02:13:06):
Yeah, all right, so we'll we'll have that here in
just amount of moments.

Speaker 5 (02:13:11):
Again, the le Broncos have wrapped up their twenty twenty
five NFL Draft class, and we're going to have Georgia
Shawn down here just a little bit.

Speaker 6 (02:13:21):
I'm excited to hear what.

Speaker 5 (02:13:23):
They have to say when it comes to this class
and what they were able to accomplish. And you know,
I mean, no, no class is perfect. I mean, as
we sit here, there's gonna be some people that they
pick of the some people in a broad stroke way,
feeling as though there are some opportunities that maybe we're missed.
But I'm again, I'm I'm ultimately really happy with what
they did because I think they addressed all three phases.

Speaker 6 (02:13:45):
There's also free agents that are still out there. You know,
we talked about the running back there.

Speaker 8 (02:13:48):
Yeah, you said Nick Chubb is a potential ad to
this roster. JKB Dobbs a potential ad to this roster.
I would suggect that there are.

Speaker 7 (02:13:57):
Still you know, some wide receivers out there if you
want to look at those kinds of those are still
available for you to do. And so, you know, I
think they addressed what they needed to do at dress scout,
what they wanted to get.

Speaker 6 (02:14:06):
We'll get their.

Speaker 8 (02:14:07):
Chance to hear their thoughts on that coming up here
and just admitted their explanation or rationale or whatever. And
I'm perfectly happy with the draft class. I don't you know,
I don't have any bones to pick with it. I'm
sure there's people melting down and that's what they do,
but at the end of the day, we're all just
you know, the we're all sitting on the couch while
their jobs depend on being right about those selections.

Speaker 7 (02:14:27):
Yeah, I'm plenty happy with it. I don't think it's
like twenty twenty one. We're coming out of that draft.
It was like how did they get these values? These
crazy values at every single slot? But that was just
a ridiculous draft. I think this one looks strong at
face value, and I think it's important to note the
draft class really isn't done yet. Considering George Payton's track
record with this team, you know, they pretty consistently we

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see one of these later round picks hang around on
the practice squad and one of the udfa's ends up
becoming a major contributor. So there's probably important rookie that
will be on the twenty twenty five Denver Broncos that
we don't even know who he is yet.

Speaker 5 (02:15:03):
Fantastic point. Absolutely, And then maybe Ties Johnson, you know,
gets released by the Buccaneers and then the Broncos can
bring him in and you know see that he's uh,
he deserves to be here.

Speaker 7 (02:15:14):
Yeah, I'm I'll tell you what I am happy about.

Speaker 6 (02:15:16):
Secretly, all the guys I didn't want, we didn't draft.
That is actually true, every single one.

Speaker 7 (02:15:22):
That's a glass half fool approach. We've been talking so
much about, guy, how fans can have their mindset on
certain guys and then you miss out on them in
your bund. You know, there's also guys you maybe don't
want the team to.

Speaker 8 (02:15:30):
Take in their car shot in front of you know,
the dragon, all the guys they didn't want.

Speaker 7 (02:15:34):
It's a fair part of it, right, I mean Green man,
I was. I would have been so sad if they
took my Green. Every time he was on the board
and the Broncos were coming up, I was I was praying.

Speaker 6 (02:15:41):
Real they wouldn't do that. Oh yeah, that was not
that was never gonna be a thing.

Speaker 8 (02:15:44):
But yeah, I yeah, there's there were some players, especially
some offensive skill position players they really didn't want us
to take.

Speaker 6 (02:15:50):
And just the off field stuff.

Speaker 7 (02:15:51):
For Green, yeah, I mean, he's a fine talent. And
it's not even that I was like, oh, this is
such an obvious fit. But if you never I mean
they surprised everyone with Baron, you never know, and so
I was just did not want to see that. I think,
you know, so maybe player type like Jalen Walker, he
got a lot of hype. I think he was kind
of the worst type of tweener where I don't think
he's got the fuel for linebacker and he doesn't have

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the size for edge or Yeah, I think he got
drafted based on twenty four to seven recruiting stars.

Speaker 5 (02:16:17):
You know, there's some truths to that, and he was
a bit of a lightning rod when it came to
the discussion about where he should go and what team
fits and those kinds of things, and sometimes twitter guys,
especially at the.

Speaker 6 (02:16:28):
Top of the draft, it could be tough.

Speaker 5 (02:16:31):
I mean, it can be really tough because it really
depends on the view of that specific coaching staff. And
we've seen so much change with coaching staffs that by
next year it could be a staff that says, this
guy doesn't even fit with us. I know, you guys,
I know we took him at the top of the draft,
but I'm sorry, it's not He's not one of our
guys anymore.

Speaker 7 (02:16:49):
And that's some of the value the Brouckos have right
now with in Trenched front office, you know, you are
going to be building on something they didn't have for
a long time, you know, prior with the revolving to
head head coach. You know who you're picking talents for,
and those talents are going to get to work, you know,
I said, maybe some position coaches swapping around, they're going
to get to work with the same coach as they're

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you know, entire Ricky deal.

Speaker 5 (02:17:11):
Michigan running back Donovan Edwards signing a free agent deal
with the Jets. So we're keeping track of some udfas.
I haven't seen any for the Broncos, but if you
see I haven't seen it yet one pop up, then
then let me know. But the twenty twenty five NFL Draft,
Hass concluded, like I said, the team is now trying
to lock up some of those udfas because they probably
had a list of ten to fifteen guys here at

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the seventh round that they were interested in. They obviously,
you know, taking a basketball player Slash tied End and
Caleb Loher in part because they felt like they couldn't
get him as a free agent.

Speaker 6 (02:17:45):
But once again, I mean, we brought it up right
when it happened.

Speaker 5 (02:17:48):
It's like I know that people will immediately jump to
sort of Jimmy Graham and Julius Thomas all that, but honestly,
That's exactly why you do it is because it's like, okay,
what if. And it's a guy who played twelve games
this year, So it's not like he was only in
for the four games that he caught four touchdowns.

Speaker 6 (02:18:02):
He was in there as a blocker. Yeah right. I
mean I don't know how many snaps he ultimately played.

Speaker 5 (02:18:06):
I will try to find that number, but he was
in there at least as a blocker, and he and
I'm sure he ran a handful of routes and the
only four times they targeted him and he caught or
at least four catches on four touchdowns.

Speaker 6 (02:18:16):
Well, that's gonna be my first question to George Payton.
This is, you know, like when you guys.

Speaker 8 (02:18:19):
Looked at at at loner, Uh, there's not a lot
of tape. You had nothing from seventh grade on, you
know till now, what was it that sold you on
his ability out of this past season? And then you know,
what do you you know, what is it that you
think your ceiling is, as you know, as a tight ends.
So that that's that'll be your first question. Yeah, probably,
especially especially I think you're first.

Speaker 6 (02:18:41):
Hey, George, you're sitting down with this, I really want
to start at the very end, work my way back.
Also your rivals. What a great draft from from that right,
How do you feel.

Speaker 5 (02:18:51):
In the fact that the rest of the division got
so much better taking players that I said you should take.

Speaker 6 (02:18:55):
I mean, who am I I'm some dork with a microphone.

Speaker 7 (02:18:59):
But it's interesting to I'm curious you're the answer to
his question because I want to know why you know
that they thought, well, you got to have I can't
risk him being on the UDFA market and having to
bid for him. We need to make sure we have
this guy. When there is so little tape out there,
it does seem like a guy maybe they could have
waited on. Definitely curious what the motivation there is.

Speaker 5 (02:19:17):
So just for fun, while we're waiting for Sean and
George signing with the rams of the UDFA, Okay, well
there you go.

Speaker 6 (02:19:23):
That's your guy. So each pick just for fun, Jade Baron,
was that consistent room? Was that Sean? Was that George?
Was that? Even bj I think consensus room?

Speaker 7 (02:19:36):
I can see you know, we talked so much about
the joker at nauseum this offseason, and I think he's
kind of the defensive version of that. You know chess
piece you can move all over. He can kind of
be a neutralizer to some of those mismatched pieces, you know,
the batman to the joker, if you will. And you know,
we know Sean Paye. We often see the defensive coaches,

(02:19:58):
you know, target mobile quarterbacks because they hate dealing with it.
I think Sean probably hates dealing with players like John A. Barron,
and so I think that could have been a motivator.
We know Peyton loves his DBS. We know he loves
best player available. I think those points overlap there. I
think that's a room decision. Rgie Harvey Peyton. I mean,
I'm sure, sure, Sorry, Sean, I think there's I'm sure

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there was general consensus on it. You know, for the
second round pick, that's such a position of need. You
need a lot of people to feel good about that
option at running back. But it seems like such a
Sean Payton guy. I see a lot of similarities between
U c FR R. J. Harvey and Tennessee Alvin Kamara.

Speaker 6 (02:20:41):
How about you?

Speaker 26 (02:20:42):
R J.

Speaker 6 (02:20:42):
Harvey? Is that a Trumpeton Chom Payton? Okreat both but
Trump Peyton? Okay? How about Pat Bryan? That one's an
easy one for uh, George Payton, Yeah, good defensive trades guy.
I agree with you.

Speaker 7 (02:20:59):
Yeah, you long term roster building thing you're you're kind
of getting it ready for for.

Speaker 5 (02:21:04):
Yeah, right, and that that would make a lot of
sense for George. He's like listening, I need some leverage here.
And they trade back into the third round, which Sewan
would sign off on because it's trading up Key Robinson.

Speaker 6 (02:21:14):
Is that rizzy?

Speaker 7 (02:21:16):
Yeah, I mean I think it makes sense for multiple places.
Sean of course, has a good relationship with Nick Saban.
Nick Saban was clearly a huge, huge fan of this kid.
I you know, I think this one seems like another
and Vance Joseph. I mean, this is a type of
edge He's dealt in a lot. George Payton loves these.
Nick Benito fits this archetype. Jonah Ellis fits this archetype
to an extent. It's the type of guy he likes

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to go with. So this is another one to me
that I think, So room pick, that's a good one.

Speaker 6 (02:21:41):
That's good, good observation there.

Speaker 5 (02:21:42):
There's there's a certain type of edge rusher that George
has been drafting, and he kind of fits that athletic profile.

Speaker 8 (02:21:48):
I think I think, Sorry, I don't mean in terrupts,
but I do believe that the Bronco, one of the
UTIFA targets they were after, just signed with the commanders
in Vintral Cyprus.

Speaker 6 (02:21:56):
Okay, go ahead, Yeah, I.

Speaker 7 (02:21:59):
Think the athletic and there's just really great. I'm a
big fan of the player and talking about the athletic traits.
He's able to line up at linebacker something to spy
the quarterback. He did that at Bama.

Speaker 6 (02:22:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (02:22:09):
Ben was talking about that wolf position earlier. That's another
overlap with with the Benito and Ellison's of the world,
that kind of linebacker ability to drop all that stuff.

Speaker 6 (02:22:19):
Yeah, that's a good one.

Speaker 5 (02:22:20):
So yeah, I mean, you open up Day three, your
fourth round pick that sort of touches several spots in
the room, which I think is cool. I think again,
you're talking about, you know, easily you could have swung
for a tight end there. You could have swung for
you know, offensive skill position player. You decided to go
with a player that really sort of touches not only
special teams but also defense and kind of hits everybody,

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including the GM there who has a certain type of
player he likes to draft as well.

Speaker 12 (02:22:45):
I like that.

Speaker 5 (02:22:46):
That's good, pretty easy. You see with the punter who
is really the most excited about that. It's Sean right,
and then Cale Blowner feels like a Sean pick too.

Speaker 7 (02:22:55):
Oh yeah, that one definitely is. Trust me, I've done
this before with Jimmy Graham. You know I can get
something out of the guy on Hey, you know he's
a town I then during one of the breaks, I
pulled up that touchdown versus Cu.

Speaker 6 (02:23:07):
But fun to what.

Speaker 7 (02:23:08):
I'm excited to go back and watch some of his
limited film. That excited to watch it because he goes
and just bullies. DJ McKinney was a very good corner,
physical corner for the bus this year and just bullies
on boxes and nowth cauch is an easy touchdown that
McKinney has no chance to defend. Like that clip that
translates to the NFL level. So it's exciting, exciting player
for the red zone.

Speaker 9 (02:23:28):
You know that.

Speaker 5 (02:23:29):
I remember you that Utah game and who is the quarterback?
Isaac Wilson. That's right, because they were they were down. Yeah,
they were down to their like fourth quarterback or something
like that.

Speaker 7 (02:23:40):
Zach Wilson's younger brother, that's.

Speaker 6 (02:23:42):
Right, that's right.

Speaker 5 (02:23:43):
Yeah, they were down to like their fourth quarterback, and
it was one that you knew, SeeU is going to win.
You just didn't really know by how much and what
what kind of fight Utah was going to be able
to put up, because again, when you're down to your
third and fourth quarterback, that's what's gonna happen.

Speaker 6 (02:23:57):
They couldn't run the ball like at all.

Speaker 11 (02:24:00):
You know that.

Speaker 5 (02:24:00):
Mike Mitchell led their team with seven carries for twenty
eight yards. But then you know you're throwing the ball
the entire game because see, you can score points in
a hurry. And yeah, he threw two touchdowns. He had
threw three interceptions as well, Isaac Wilson, and I remember
those because they were field blocked. They were pretty ugly. Yeah,
it was pretty pretty brutal to watch. But yeah, gayleib
Blona had the one catch for three yards. But you're right,

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as a the box out, I remember that one good description.

Speaker 6 (02:24:25):
It's good. It's good anyways.

Speaker 5 (02:24:26):
I again, I think that as a settles, more Broncos
fans are going to like it. I think what tends
to happen with and I love it, don't get me wrong,
with with sort of the pre draft process. Everybody because
of mock draft engines, because of the accessibility to film,
to accessibility to all the process, everybody kind of feels

(02:24:50):
like they have a good sense of who are the
good players or who should.

Speaker 6 (02:24:53):
Be drafted and who should be drafted where.

Speaker 5 (02:24:55):
And then you see, you know, the Dame Brugalers of
the world say this is a fifth sixth round pick,
you know, and then you you get your mindset that
that's what it is. But understand something that mel Kyper,
Dane Brugler, Daniels are a mile these guys, is best guess.
I mean, they're there, they talk to people, they get
a sense of things. But for the most part, there
are a lot of smoke screens. Teams do not want you.

Speaker 6 (02:25:16):
To know that they're in on guys like Pat Bryant's,
for example.

Speaker 5 (02:25:18):
And I think that will be the example, Zach, the
specific example for a lot of people that are going
to pin on.

Speaker 6 (02:25:24):
They're going to say, hey, I like several of these
draft players.

Speaker 5 (02:25:28):
I just feel like they took them a little earlier
than most consensus thought.

Speaker 7 (02:25:33):
Yeah, I think that's accurate. You know, I think there
are some consensus wort reaches and and you know that
can be a concern at times.

Speaker 6 (02:25:40):
I you know, I just I think it's more important.

Speaker 7 (02:25:44):
They probably land of their guys than you know, worried
about being reaches. And also media people are often wrong
in their pre draft projection.

Speaker 6 (02:25:53):
That's correct.

Speaker 7 (02:25:54):
I think Shador is an incredibly uh telling example of that.
You look at you know, I bet you can't find
a single media ranking out there where he's not in
the top seventy five or top one hundred, and he goes,
you know, pick one, twenty something and forty something. So,
you know, I think so often our perceptions of these

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players can be so different. And then I think your
point about mock draft simulators.

Speaker 6 (02:26:19):
Was so accurate.

Speaker 7 (02:26:21):
Every mock draft sim is going to let you get
a fourth round talent in the seventh round. And that's
just like sometimes that happens in the NFL. But when
it happens in the NFL, it's because there is some
crazy injury thing that the public doesn't know about, where
there's some crazy off field thing the public doesn't know about,
and then there's reasons why you don't want to in
the mock drafts him. Oh my god, this fourth round
talent's here, run that card up. In real life, it's

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a more complicated decision than that, And I think that
sets fans expectations way too high. I think, and they're
going to get a first round or three second rounders
and three third rounders.

Speaker 6 (02:26:51):
I think, Yeah, that's part of it.

Speaker 8 (02:26:52):
These mock draft simulators have people convinced that they can
get these certain players, and there's certain players are more
valuable than other players. All this kind of stuff at
the end of the day, and it's the same thing
I say all the time. We don't know what we
don't know you. We don't get to interview these guys.
We don't get to see their medicals. Sometimes I get
some of their off field you know that kind of stuff.
But the reality is we don't know a lot of
those things, and we come in with half the information

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and then expect to have the one hundred percent correct opinion.
And I would just say that if you feel emotional
or vitriolic about any of it, then perhaps you may
be a little too invested.

Speaker 6 (02:27:26):
One and then two don't know what you don't know.

Speaker 5 (02:27:29):
Yeah, I perfectly said, And I also like it specifically late, Hey, man,
if Sean Payton's pounding the table for Pat Bryant, saying,
I want to make sure we come away in the
draft with this guy.

Speaker 8 (02:27:39):
I'll say this, the clips I watched last night, don't
box score watch because man, that quarterback up at Illinois.

Speaker 6 (02:27:44):
Was terrible, well to that point, terrible. His box score.

Speaker 7 (02:27:47):
Pat Bryant's box score is more impressive than just about
any receiver drafted ahead of him. Right, he was incredibly
productive if you want to look at you know, like
per target stuff, efficiency stuff, it's just awesome.

Speaker 5 (02:27:58):
Yeah, all right, here we go. George Payton and Sean
Payton are making the way to the podium and we're
going to bring you their comments following the twenty twenty
five NFL Draft here in just a matter of moments,
and then we'll have George on you know, one on
one interview.

Speaker 6 (02:28:11):
In just a matter of moments. Here we go, hoping
up for questions George, Sean Luke Evans with the Denver Post.
What did you guys see and Q Robinson?

Speaker 26 (02:28:28):
You know the upside there, the potential fit you know
at edge and what made you confident in him in
the fourth round.

Speaker 27 (02:28:36):
We've you've been seeing flashes of him, you know, the
last four years at Alabama.

Speaker 6 (02:28:41):
Really the last two on defense.

Speaker 27 (02:28:43):
But you know, you look throughout the career just the
special teams play and I think he had sixteen special
name cackles maybe the last two years, and you just
see the athletic traits, the athletic ability, the length, the speed,
the way he plays, you know, the motor he plays with.
And then he's played behind some really good outside you know,
Will Anderson, Dallas Turner, guys like that. So wasn't playing

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a whole lot this year, kind of clicked on defense
and then obviously had the injury. But he has all
the trades you look for at that position, and yet
in the meantime he can be a hardcore special teamer.

Speaker 6 (02:29:14):
So that's what attracted us to him.

Speaker 24 (02:29:16):
There's a lot of a lot of Alabama tize to
with our coaching staff and being there.

Speaker 12 (02:29:23):
Quite a few, you know, at least.

Speaker 28 (02:29:25):
Three on your left coach, I want to ask you
about something you said yesterday, which is that you have
this responsibility to the locker room as you build this team,
to add guys that that it matters to, that have
this right makeup that winning matters to. I guess just
as you've built this standard over the last couple of years.
How much more of a priority has that been? And
how do you kind of figure out which guys it

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doesn't matter to.

Speaker 24 (02:29:47):
I think it's consistent. It's just it's just trying to
and it's hard sometimes, but trying to best we can
in the evaluation process measure the grit, mental toughness, the
importance of the game to these players. Yeah, I mean,

(02:30:11):
I think that that's something that you know, we from
year to year. It's not like it varies. You know,
you're and sometimes gathering that information is more difficult than others.

Speaker 29 (02:30:28):
Chris Thomas and Denver because that talk about drafting Jeremy
cross Shaw punter in the sixth round and then also
you trade it down and got two picks, was that
related to trying to get both of those two final
guys you got the draft?

Speaker 27 (02:30:43):
Yeah, I mean we were working the board. We wanted
those are kind of our two targets. We felt if
we traded back we might be able to get two.
If we didn't, we get one, and it worked out.
You know, again that doesn't always worked out. It worked
out this time. In the regards to the punter, we
felt he was. You know, he's the best punter in
the draft. I think he was the only one drafted.
But big kid, athletic, you know, grew up playing rugby, cricket.

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This guy's got a really big leg and you look
at his gross that he's had, you know, over the
last couple of years. The net wasn't as high as
this year but in the past, and we feel.

Speaker 6 (02:31:12):
Like he can do everything.

Speaker 27 (02:31:13):
You know, punt for distance, directionally controlled, hang, really good holder,
good teammates, so we feel really strong about him.

Speaker 6 (02:31:23):
Over to you left, Zack Stevens d NVR.

Speaker 26 (02:31:25):
The final pick was Caleb Blowner sean experienced in passive
drafting guy with only one year of football experience. How
difficult for both of you is it to draft a
guy and evaluate a guy when it's just on one
year and a guy that only.

Speaker 6 (02:31:37):
Had four catches to seven plays and what do you see?
What do you see from that?

Speaker 12 (02:31:41):
It's hard.

Speaker 24 (02:31:42):
Look, I think I think going back with Jimmy Graham,
I think he had fourteen fifteen catches. Both of them
had a season. Both of them were very good basketball players.
And now in Jimmy's case, there was a lot more
or you know, he was a combined invite.

Speaker 12 (02:32:03):
And you know, with Caleb, like we were talking about.

Speaker 24 (02:32:08):
Earlier, you know, we're laid in this draft and you
you're rooting for some guys and you see upside. He's
six seven, two forty five. You can see the basketball
skill set that's easy at a high level. And then
you know you're you're looking at a small amount of

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playing time and yet enough to where you're watching him.

Speaker 12 (02:32:33):
I think the other thing that helped was watching him.

Speaker 24 (02:32:37):
You know at the Big twelve Pro Day, there's just
a few plays that you see movement skills and man,
there's a lot to work with and you know, if
it turns out like the last one did, then then
we'd be really excited. And you go all the way
back really in our league historically, you know, Gates was signed,

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I believe undrafted, And so it's kind of one of
those things where the body types for tight end, it's
not like they're making.

Speaker 12 (02:33:09):
Less of them.

Speaker 24 (02:33:10):
They may be playing volleyball, they may be playing basketball,
but but it's it's projecting. And then and then when
you get a chance to see him play football, you know,
he goes through a season of putting pads on, but
his movement skills and his his height, weight and his
eye hand coordination. Yeah, there's a lot of developmental upside

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and and we're excited about that.

Speaker 6 (02:33:37):
Brandon Crystal Gorilla Sports. I have too.

Speaker 30 (02:33:39):
But the first one is kind of quick. Was there
consideration for Tess Johnson either in the seventh there is
free agent?

Speaker 6 (02:33:44):
How do you have been? Yeah, certainly? Yeah, then think
he got drafted.

Speaker 24 (02:33:48):
It's hard to Yeah, it's hard to be, Like he's
on the board and you're sitting there, and obviously I
think Tampa took him right, and so I'm sure he
was on everyone's board, you know, at some point. It
just depends on you know, after one receiver drafting to
last year.

Speaker 30 (02:34:06):
But but yeah, and they can I guess both of you,
maybe George a little more, take us through the whole
process pre draft, with your staff changing, losing coaches, babies
coming and all that.

Speaker 6 (02:34:17):
Just how it went. No, I mean it's it started
back right after the season.

Speaker 27 (02:34:21):
Sean lost coaches, I lost you know, scouts and Mood
and theos and David, you know, just a lot of
us and and really everyone just man stepped up, you know,
and on the coaching side, the personnel side, the medical side.
I mean, all hands on deck for this, you know,
for this draft process and uh collaborative process. I know
we say that too much, but this really is and

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everyone on the same page and and working together. And
doesn't mean they always you know agree or you know, disagree,
but they work really well. Coaches, scouts and like I said,
medical analytics. Everyone's involved. It's a team effort, and so
it's it's really been outstanding. Again, everyone did a little extra,
you know, we were, and so I appreciate everyone all
the again, all the scouts, all the coaches, all the personnel,

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everyone involved, the football ops you know, with.

Speaker 6 (02:35:07):
Chip and and his group.

Speaker 27 (02:35:09):
We had a lot of players in you know, on
top thirty visits and just getting the building ready and
and so you know, it's an outstanding effort. And I
thought we had a really you know, really good weekend,
and I think we got better.

Speaker 6 (02:35:18):
As a football team. I got a couple starting with Sean.

Speaker 16 (02:35:23):
You're your rosters have always had some flexibility and some
multi talented, multi faceted players, and it seems as though
flexibility and versatility is a theme through your draft your
new draft classes.

Speaker 6 (02:35:36):
Has that become more important in today's game. To have
those kind of players on your roster.

Speaker 12 (02:35:40):
Team is without getting into along.

Speaker 24 (02:35:43):
I think over the years, as the rules have changed
relative to the passing game and the evolution of offenses,
I would say, you know, it used to be the
premium position was the corner, you know.

Speaker 12 (02:36:01):
The left tackle, the quarterback.

Speaker 24 (02:36:03):
But but starting on defense, obviously pressure players are important.
The addition of like Nickel is now the third corner,
you know, and if you looked at the pie chart
in our league, it's it's kind of seventy thirty there.
There are a lot of teams like Buffalo at the
end of the year. You know, at times you would

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you would look at film and try to say, what
do we have to do to get them in base defense?
And that might mean, well, we got to send Burton
out there with a jumbo tight end and so.

Speaker 12 (02:36:38):
And so that's changed.

Speaker 24 (02:36:39):
And then I think the evolution of the tight end
in the past, receiving running back and in those matchups
have evolved.

Speaker 12 (02:36:50):
And I'm not going to say that's new that there.

Speaker 24 (02:36:53):
Have been a lot of great offenses long before we
started that.

Speaker 12 (02:36:58):
In the old days, the the f was.

Speaker 24 (02:37:01):
The primary ball catcher, you know, in the Brown blue
back set and then half back was more of the blocker.
And but yeah, I would say those pieces, those pieces
are are important when you're trying to get matchups. Maybe
you want red zone or third dump.

Speaker 18 (02:37:23):
Hey, Sean, a few weeks ago in Palm Beach, you
talked about wanting to see more from the running backs
that you had coming back, and so in regards to
specifically Audric Estimate and Blake Watson, how has the vision
for them evolved going in this year, especially with now
RJ coming in.

Speaker 24 (02:37:43):
Yeah, well, I think the latter is part of the
draft process. I think oftentimes you can't unfold or say, hey,
we're we just took two receivers, but the one appeared
and we felt value in the pick. But to the

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I would say to the first part of the question,
and we're talking about some of our younger players. Man
year one, you know, they get exposed to what we're doing.
We'll see growth in year two. We're excited to see
that with these guys. And that's whether it's Blake, Audric
Tyler Bide meaning. I think a lot of times there's

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this perception, oh a player was drafted there, this this
list can vary in it and now we understand there's
a need element and we always pay attention to that,
but we look forward to to seeing their development. I
just like we look forward to seeing the young receiver.

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The young receivers developed in the same way in the
secondary if we're looking at you know, Abram's drain.

Speaker 12 (02:38:59):
I could go on and on.

Speaker 13 (02:39:00):
So this is.

Speaker 24 (02:39:05):
One part of making your team better. And and then hey,
you you create that high level competition.

Speaker 12 (02:39:15):
And but.

Speaker 24 (02:39:18):
Ultimately, and these guys will hear this from me in
two weeks in the team meeting, along with the rest
of the rookie.

Speaker 12 (02:39:24):
Class, we're going to go by what we see. You know,
how you arrived here.

Speaker 24 (02:39:28):
This this is a process we're trying to secure in
order the best way to get the most for our draft.
But once they're here, you know, it's up to them
to earn their stripes.

Speaker 31 (02:39:44):
Coach, Now that the free agencies over the drafts over,
it's kind of piggybacking on that. Do you have enough
at tight end and running back to feel like you're
improved going into now you know sooner?

Speaker 24 (02:39:55):
Well, when you ask coaches that question, the answer is
always we never have enough, all right, But.

Speaker 6 (02:40:01):
It's a fair question. We feel we put ourselves in
a good position.

Speaker 13 (02:40:05):
You know.

Speaker 24 (02:40:06):
One of the things if the if the right player
fits in free agency, where we're not just saying, hey,
we have to but if the right player fits, then
it allows you a little bit more freedom in the
draft and maybe different than our first year here. You know,

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as we discussed this group of players, there's a clear
vision relative to what we think their strengths are and
how they'll compete in year one. We're further along than
two years ago.

Speaker 6 (02:40:45):
For both of you.

Speaker 32 (02:40:47):
The first two days of the draft were kind of
high volume players with a lot of experienced game experience,
and then today it feels like more of a projection
projection day.

Speaker 6 (02:40:58):
Was that by design or just how how it fell?

Speaker 27 (02:41:02):
I think it's just how it felt. I mean the punters,
you know, I know you're parent not counting the punter
at four years I'm kidding.

Speaker 6 (02:41:10):
I just think it worked out that way.

Speaker 27 (02:41:12):
Jeff, you know, uh yeah, you know, Robinson obviously had
different traits that we were looking for, and then you
know the same with the same with the tight end.

Speaker 12 (02:41:22):
I do think you look for traits that you can.

Speaker 24 (02:41:27):
Historically speaking, you can you could take certain players maybe
in settle on them, but if if you find some
traits that project. You know, we talked about this all
the time. Ninety five percent of the discussion about the
draft is the first round, and when you really evaluate

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a good draft, it's it's you know, it's it's these
later picks and more anxious to see how how they evolved.

Speaker 27 (02:41:58):
And they both had enough flash is where you can project,
you know, what they could be at their highest level.

Speaker 9 (02:42:03):
And so we like what we saw.

Speaker 6 (02:42:04):
I'm both Joejo I'm curious.

Speaker 16 (02:42:07):
You know, in the NCAA basketball tournament this year, the
nil and the transfer portal sort of hit critical mass
and you had a concentration of the best players in
the Power conference schools. And in the draft, twenty players
were non conference Power Conference players. Thirty last year, twenty
this year. So I'm wondering how that nil slash transfer

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portal has sort of hit critical.

Speaker 9 (02:42:33):
Mass maybe in football as well.

Speaker 16 (02:42:35):
Has it changed scouting as far as maybe you know
you have more of a concentration in the power schools.

Speaker 27 (02:42:41):
I think so, And I think you know, as you
set your schedule for you want where you want your
scouts to spend their most time. I think even the
last couple of years. You know, you wanted more in
those places, concentrated areas like we talked about South, Not
that there's not going to be good players, you know,
on some of these other smaller schools.

Speaker 6 (02:42:59):
But no, I agree with you know, that's what you said. Definitely.

Speaker 12 (02:43:03):
The we just had this discussion.

Speaker 24 (02:43:06):
I was talking with someone the HPCU schools, the fcs,
you know, the Eastern Illinois of the world.

Speaker 12 (02:43:14):
Man, those guys.

Speaker 24 (02:43:17):
You know, Jerry Rice gets drafted by the forty nine ers,
but I don't know that it's from Mississippi Valley State today.
You know, that's where he started, but I think it
may be from pick a big school, right, and then
Walter Paate, I mean, just any of those smaller school players.

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And then there's occasionally, you know, a guy that we
see that many wanted last year and this year.

Speaker 6 (02:43:42):
You know, they could have transferred, but they hung in there,
you know.

Speaker 12 (02:43:45):
But they're going they're going up. Yeah, and that's different.
Thank you, Thank you.

Speaker 5 (02:43:56):
All right, we're gonna have George Payton joining us here
in just a maounter of moments. As the Broncos have
concluded the twenty twenty five NFL Draft, they have concluded
their press conference.

Speaker 6 (02:44:06):
There, George and Sean. What's up, George? Good man?

Speaker 9 (02:44:10):
Good?

Speaker 6 (02:44:10):
Pretty well, get your headset here.

Speaker 9 (02:44:12):
Here we go.

Speaker 6 (02:44:16):
Nice, take a load off. He with some sprinkles there
your cooks. I just need, you know, need some sugar
at the end of a long day. Sometimes that need
some caffeine.

Speaker 5 (02:44:27):
Yeah, right right. I know it's been a long process
for you. Just one second here, we's going to get
something set up here for our guy Anthony, and then
we'll be ready to go. It's good to see you, man.
How uh you know, I do think that every draft
sort of has a bit of a theme. Every draft
is a sort of a storyline for you what is
going to be the storyline of this draft?

Speaker 27 (02:44:48):
You know, a lot of these players we drafted were
players we targeted. You know, we felt like the draft
kind of fell our way. You know, we made some
of that happen with the trades we made. I think
we made four trades, and and so that kind of
set that, you know, the first trade kind of set
up the rest, you know, the first day, and then
you know, obviously the rest of the trades set up
the rest of the draft. And so I thought it
kind of fell our away this this year, and it
doesn't always happen like that.

Speaker 7 (02:45:09):
The only pick you picked it was your original pick
was in the first.

Speaker 6 (02:45:11):
Round a twenty baron fell in your lap and then
you played the board and moved around. How exciting is
it for you to be able to move around?

Speaker 27 (02:45:17):
Well, that's what it's all about. Let's say you have
your best drafts. You know, is it moving around? You
take a risk, but man, it typically works out and
you get more picks and you have more flexibility. And
I say that too often, but to have flexibility is
how you really hitting this draft.

Speaker 6 (02:45:30):
I want to ask you specifically about Argie Harvey.

Speaker 5 (02:45:33):
I loved your point that you made Yester about his
vision and boy, it really it really shows out. Was
that one of the priorities when you were looking at
running backs and you know, you're thinking.

Speaker 6 (02:45:42):
About what that room needs. Did you start there or
was some other things that I guess facets of running back.

Speaker 27 (02:45:48):
We just turned on the tape and let it, let
the tape talk to us, and then and spoke very
very quickly, and he jumps off the tape. He has
a great vision, but then that burst, you know he
can create on his own when it's not blocked well,
and that's hard to find in a back and and
when he creates on his own, he can take it
to the house any play, and so that that's fun watch.

Speaker 8 (02:46:05):
Well, on that note, Loner doesn't exactly have a ton
of tape out there.

Speaker 12 (02:46:08):
Well, he had.

Speaker 27 (02:46:09):
He had four catches, as you know, and they were
all touchdowns and now his efficiency. He also had a
two point catch, so he's five for five.

Speaker 8 (02:46:15):
So how do you that though, I mean, he doesn't
have any tape from seventh grade onto the you know,
how how do you say this is enough.

Speaker 6 (02:46:22):
For us to make this decision?

Speaker 27 (02:46:23):
Fifty seven plays and so it's you know, he played foot,
you know, he obviously he's a basketball player. I don't
even know if he put on pads. I don't think
he had, you know, And his first time putting on
pads was at Utah. And so when you watched him,
I wouldn't sw him at CEU, you know, and just
wanted to see him.

Speaker 6 (02:46:37):
Man, he looked really good in pads.

Speaker 27 (02:46:38):
He wore his pads well for a guy who hadn't
put him on very long in his life, you know,
And and football takes a bit, but man, he could
lower his pads.

Speaker 6 (02:46:45):
He blocked.

Speaker 27 (02:46:46):
I mean, he's working the blocking part of it. But
he only had four catches, but he was open a
lot and they didn't throw him the ball, and so
he can stretch the field.

Speaker 6 (02:46:55):
He's sudden out of his but he watched his pro day.

Speaker 9 (02:46:57):
Man, it was really good.

Speaker 27 (02:46:58):
He's got really good hands, as you can imagine for
about baketball player.

Speaker 5 (02:47:00):
You came into this drafts not needing to look really
at the quarterbacks. How different was that for you? And
I mean it's been a minute, it's been a minute.
It's kind of nice.

Speaker 27 (02:47:09):
You know, obviously we evaluate the quarterbacks, but it's nice
to focus on the rest of the team. You know,
we obviously we love our quarterback room, and so it
is nice. I mean, it's this challenges all over you
know this The drafts always a challenge who you take,
when you take them, do you move back or not?
And and but it's certainly nice not to have to
worry about the quarterback position.

Speaker 9 (02:47:27):
Yeah, all the.

Speaker 8 (02:47:28):
Storks with microphones and pens, we were picking running back
in the first round.

Speaker 6 (02:47:31):
You got us.

Speaker 8 (02:47:31):
But as far as the shade bearing thing goes, like
at what point, what was the inflection point where you
started raising your eyebrown and said, hey maybe because for me,
when when Miami didn't take him, I'm looking them like, hey, yeah, I.

Speaker 6 (02:47:40):
Thought I thought he would get to us when they
didn't take him.

Speaker 27 (02:47:42):
And then, you know, I think we were worried maybe
Arizona Cincinnati, but started, you know, once he kind of
hit those key spots, we felt pretty good that he
would be there. And then do we trade back? And
we just said, man, let's just take this player. He's
the best player on a board, really good player, and
we could you know, obviously we you know, people are
saying you should have taken this or that you can
always use corners and we need depth to corner and

(02:48:03):
and he we feel like he's an elite player. And
I mean we talked a lot about the joker position
right on the offense, but this Joker on defense exact, Uh,
you could play him anywhere inside, outside, he could play safety,
and he could he can thrive in all those positions. Dime,
you know you watch him at Texas, Man, I studied
this guy during the season. Then you know, then I

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get Sean on board and and when you when you
watch a player during the season, you watch three three games,
you move on to the next player, you write them up.
But when you can spend a day just watching one
player and it's just like, oh my gosh, this guy's
really really good. You know when you watch all his
man coverage, you watch his own you watch the quarters,
and you dig in, you do a deep dive, and
you're like, this is our guy.

Speaker 8 (02:48:41):
You obviously you drafted Pat Bryant, and I believe I
was texted while you were up there at the podium
the you guys are signing the Arkansas state wide receiver.

Speaker 6 (02:48:48):
Courtney could be wrong on that. I'm not sure.

Speaker 27 (02:48:50):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 6 (02:48:51):
What there's what did you see?

Speaker 4 (02:48:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (02:48:57):
What did you What did you see in Pat that
you know they really sold you?

Speaker 27 (02:49:00):
Oh, he's you know, he's just the size the ball
skills for someone his size that can run routes, run
the whole route, tree can transition in and out, he
can he can stop. The big guys sometimes have a
hard time stop and then starting, and he can do both.
I know he ran four six to one, but if
you look at some of the other metrics at GPS,
you know he was in the four four sevens. So
we don't just look at the forty, we look at
the twenty, we look at everything, and then you just

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watch him play. The physicality fits kind of what Sean
wants in a receiver. He'll block ball, skills, outstanding, big playability.

Speaker 6 (02:49:30):
They go to him in the clutch, you know. And
you watch the Rutgers.

Speaker 27 (02:49:32):
You watch the Rutgers game, which is the most crazy
game I've ever seen.

Speaker 6 (02:49:36):
Three game winners. I think it's unbelievable.

Speaker 27 (02:49:37):
Yeah, So, just love the way competes, Love the way
he plays with passion and in alpha.

Speaker 6 (02:49:43):
You know, I on the offensive side.

Speaker 5 (02:49:44):
All right, last couple here for you really appreciate time
as as always, George. So you between free agency and
the draft, now, I mean you add your udfas, but
that's going to be the roster that you're going to
be competing with in twenty twenty five. Sean sort of said,
at the end of the season, you guys were primed
as he's ought to compete for the division. How do
you feel like this team has assembled sort of filled

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some of the gaps that you feel like you needed
to do.

Speaker 12 (02:50:06):
Now.

Speaker 27 (02:50:06):
I like where we're at, you know, I think we
did fill a lot of holes and it never stops
filling holes. And we haven't been together yet, you know
we haven't. I mean that they're working out in phase one.
We'll get the rookies in here. We like our team.
I'm not going to get into, you know, all that stuff.
I'll let Sean kind of talk, but we like this team.
It'll be great when they all come together and see
them work together.

Speaker 8 (02:50:26):
But like where we're at, felt like that this draft
was in addition to filling you know, the things that
you needed, but it also felt like at the end
that this was sort of a resounding vote of confidence
in some of the younger guys.

Speaker 7 (02:50:36):
You guys drafted the last couple of years, would you say,
that's a fair sass?

Speaker 10 (02:50:39):
I do.

Speaker 27 (02:50:39):
And some players, you know, they can play right away,
Some it takes a year, some it takes two. And
we feel like some of our second third year guys
was to start hitting their prime, much like Riley Moss,
much like Nick Bonito did, And so you know, we
look for that push and these coaches do a great
job at developing players, and so does our sports performance side.

Speaker 6 (02:50:56):
So we feel good.

Speaker 5 (02:50:58):
You have some decisions to make with some guys that
are in the final year of the contract with Zach Allen,
for example. Like that, you guys said you wanted to
wait in his laughter the draft. How are you feeling
about some of those guys as they stack.

Speaker 27 (02:51:08):
Yeah, we'll get there, you know. We just want to
soak in this draft. And I'm probably gonna have a
second nap. My wife, my daughter has a problem to night.
I gotta try to so yeah. George, all right, appreciate
you guys.

Speaker 12 (02:51:19):
Thanks.

Speaker 6 (02:51:20):
I appreciate you very much.

Speaker 5 (02:51:21):
George Payton, Broncos GM joining us here as we're lying
from Broncos part Power by Comma Spirit.

Speaker 6 (02:51:26):
Thank you, Shue, appreciate it, Thank you, George.

Speaker 5 (02:51:30):
Very cool, very great, very exciting stuff here for the
Broncos as uh, we're gonna be wrapping up our coverage
here from Broncos part Power by Common Spirit. Will take
you to the top of the hour of some final thoughts, Ben,
really good comments there, and I love that last question.
I think that that's such a resounding point that needs
to be made about how much they believe in the

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previous class, previous couple classes.

Speaker 6 (02:51:55):
Because you make the R. J.

Speaker 5 (02:51:57):
Harvey pick in part because you think Audre Guston may
still has something right you make the Pat Bryant pick
because you do believe in Devon bay Lane. You didn't
have to take a Matthew Golden at the top of
the draft, right or more specifically, you took Johnny Baron
because you believe in some of these younger receivers are
still coming along and still developing.

Speaker 6 (02:52:13):
So I do think that that was such a great
point you brought up.

Speaker 8 (02:52:15):
Yeah, I was gonna ask him a litt press him
little bit on the the UDF phase because there you're
going to bring in a lot of offensive lineman.

Speaker 6 (02:52:21):
That's that's in the process of happening right now.

Speaker 12 (02:52:22):
We'll get that.

Speaker 8 (02:52:23):
You know, I'm sure he's got all the guys out
there making those calls and getting all that done.

Speaker 6 (02:52:27):
But yeah, young singers there pointed it out. R. J.
Harvey is a good.

Speaker 8 (02:52:30):
Compliment to what Audrick Asti may is. You know, Pat
Bryant's a good compliment to what they drafted, and guys
like Mims and and Troy Franklin. You know, they told
us that they believed in this young receiving core, they
believed in the youth of this team, and I suggest
that this draft, and of course his answer backs that up.

Speaker 7 (02:52:47):
Is a resounding belief in that youth movement that they have. Yeah,
and there's always a good chance they could miss on
these picks, you know, as is the case with every
NFL draft pick, but it's absolutely complimentary. You can picture
these wide receiver he's just fitting together long term with
you know, Mims hopefully developed, or Franklin developing into that
long term z Valat maybe as that big slot, the

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Marcus Colston type, he said, and then Pat Bryant as
your kind of traditional prototypical X. He absolutely fits that role.
And I think, yeah, it's just a really exciting draft.
I think in a lot of ways, like Pat Bryant's
the pick I'm loist on. And even still I look
at how successful he was at Illinois with really bad
quarterback play. It is hard to watch Pat Bryant tape

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because of how bad the quarterback play is, and he's
still out producing guys like Ted McMillan, who a big apology,
I guess, or people that were defending Ted McMillan, we're
pointing out, hey, he had a really bad quarterback last
year and that's that's the reason it wasn't the same
in twenty twenty four as it was twenty twenty three,
Brian out produced him in a very similar quarterbacking situation.

Speaker 5 (02:53:50):
Well, and you could tell the man as soon as
you asked about Pat Bryant, he went right into Sean
loved him.

Speaker 8 (02:53:58):
You knew that was a Sean Payton pick in the
art type fits the fact. And then you go, when
you watch any clips of this guy right off the bat,
the first thing you see is he's got a terrible
quarterback and he's still trying to make too. Loved the
energy from the interview. I think that's gonna be one
of those guys that endears himself.

Speaker 6 (02:54:12):
You know, the fans like who is this guy?

Speaker 8 (02:54:14):
And we're gonna have a lot of deleted tweets free
hundred and sixty five days from now. You know, when
when all of a sudden, you know, Pat bryan has
has a decent rookie season, It is balling out.

Speaker 7 (02:54:21):
In camp, and you know in year two starts to
starts to make some strides.

Speaker 6 (02:54:24):
You know, And and Zach, you brought up a point
on Twitter.

Speaker 5 (02:54:26):
I don't want to interrupt you, but you brought up
a point on Twitter about how it's it's fair to
question or fair to have concerns or those kinds of things,
And I think it's fair to to have those discussions
about whether or not you you absolutely believe in whether
a player or the direction or.

Speaker 6 (02:54:42):
Those kinds of things. I think that's fine.

Speaker 5 (02:54:43):
I think I think the line needs to be drawn
at some point though on I know better than the team.
Like that for me is always like one that I
think feel like media members that even some fans dance
around a little bit or dance on a little bit
of this, like and I'm even getting tweets now like
this was clearly a George pay And draft and Sean
Payton sat out. He didn't even have anything to do
with this draft, And it's really disappointing to me. It's like, well,

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what did you think was Well, first of all, that's
not true.

Speaker 6 (02:55:08):
He's a very hands off guy, to be fair, right, everybody.

Speaker 5 (02:55:11):
Knows that about Sean. But that's what I'm saying, Like,
there's this perception that I'm not exactly sure. It's kind
of all over the map right now, But once again,
do you buy into the direction that they're going or not?
And I'm not saying you have to have blind faith,
you certainly question things along the process. But do you
believe that they have the structure in place to continue

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to build on the success or not? And I think
if you watch what they're the moves they're doing, they
think they do and this should give you a lot
of confidence in that direction, at least in my opinion.

Speaker 7 (02:55:44):
Yeah, everyone should be skeptical in this process. You know,
if it was really easy to even find the guys
that aren't going to hit, you'd have a great batting
average the best. If you hit sixty percent at the
NFL Draft, you are a Hall of Fame caliber GN
and you're setting up your team for a dynastic run.

Speaker 6 (02:56:00):
It is incredibly hard to do.

Speaker 3 (02:56:02):
So.

Speaker 6 (02:56:02):
If those guys who it's.

Speaker 7 (02:56:03):
Their forty hour a week job, they have an entire
support staff who's it's their forty hour a week plus
job to help build out that draft board and everything,
they've got way more insight information than we do. If
they're wrong forty percent of the time on you know,
good players bad players, like you're probably wrong. You know
at least that that frequently you know you're going to
be wrong. I'm a big RJ.

Speaker 6 (02:56:23):
Harvey fan. I am still you know.

Speaker 7 (02:56:26):
I'm not doing victory laps about it yet because who
knows it might not pan out. The people who are
low on that pick could be right. The people who
are so confident that pick's not going to work out,
I wouldn't be so confident. It could easily work out.
It could be a game changer for them.

Speaker 6 (02:56:40):
RJ.

Speaker 7 (02:56:40):
Harri Like, why couldn't RJ. Harvey be the next Olvin Kamara?
That's not his projection. If it was, he go top five,
top ten. But you look at what Kamara's projection was,
and exactly he goes in the third round. He goes later,
frankly than RJ.

Speaker 6 (02:56:54):
Harvey.

Speaker 7 (02:56:54):
So and you know was projected in that third fourth
round where if PEP want to be mad about the
Harvey reached so on. So that's where he was projected
to go. So Peyton's hit on these guys before. I
just I think fans are too confident and like you're saying,
this guy's gonna be good, this guy's gonna be bad.
How dare the Broncos do this? And I don't know
all the picks make sense to me, there's none that

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I'm scratching my head going, what are you thinking here?
Why are we investing all that like Montreal Washington. When
that pick happened, it was a bit of a head scratcher.
There's not really any of those here until you know,
maybe two forty one with the tight end, but that
even makes sense. High upside swinging at two forty one,
I can easily get by.

Speaker 6 (02:57:30):
And you heard Sean's comment about it.

Speaker 8 (02:57:31):
Yeah, some other news out there, the Colorado News, Comrade
Silva on Craig going to the Jacksonville Jaguars UDFA, Shilo
Sanders going to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers UDFA. So quite
quite a bit of other CU news going on there,
Colorado News as well.

Speaker 6 (02:57:44):
I think sim and Craig was so slept on easy.

Speaker 7 (02:57:47):
He is and he's he doesn't have ideal size, he
doesn't have ideal speed. You know, the measurables aren't there,
and that's why he's a UDFA. But he plays so
much faster. I think, you know, a high end version
of this comparison would be like Malachi Starks and Amon Worri.
Amon Wori tested dramatically better than Malachi Starks, but you
watch them play. Starks is playing much faster because he

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knows what's going on around him. You watch them doing
the field drills at the combine starts is moving much
faster through them because he's comfortable doing that stuff. Then
I think that's stim in Craig. He might run a
four seven forty or whatever, but his feel and how
fast he plays the game is so awesome.

Speaker 8 (02:58:23):
Some UDFA news Jacksonville State center Clay Webb. The Broncos
have gotten Kansas linebacker Jamie Brown, Kentucky offensive lineer more
kiss Cox, Arkansas state wide receiver Cording Jackson.

Speaker 7 (02:58:33):
That was the one I was tired to talk to
him about.

Speaker 8 (02:58:35):
There, Oregon State corner Jaden Robinson, Missouri edge Johnny Walker Junior,
and I'm here for to see him in his red
and blue sky and Georgia offensive line Xavier Truss All
Broncos UDFA class guys.

Speaker 7 (02:58:47):
Three offensive linemen there right, which something you were saying.
And Zach Street has done a great job with these
guys before Frank Crumb again he appears to be a contributor.
And Pouchesky. I think it's overlooked now, but I think
he was one of the most incredible stories of last
season for the Broncos that they looked really shallow on
that offensive line. They dealt with some injuries. He had
to fill in for M. Gwinchey and what was it,

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powers or miners, and he did a dang good job.
Like if you can find another player of that caliber,
you know, that's a home run on the UDFA market.
The end of the day, How how we viewing this thing?
How do we how do we look at this thing?

Speaker 6 (02:59:19):
Mat? I feel great about it.

Speaker 5 (02:59:20):
Honestly, I said, I feel like you got tremendous value
in your first round pick. I mean honestly, when George
we got a chance to ask him about John ay
Baron and asked him that if he was the joker
on defense and he couldn't stop being effusive in his
praise of that player, and how excited they are about him,
and that that really goes to show you that it
is not only it was a pick across really all

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all spectrum.

Speaker 6 (02:59:42):
We talked about who whose fingerprints are on this thing?

Speaker 5 (02:59:44):
That one was a consensus, that was a room that
was they were all excited about the fact that he
was sitting there and they really didn't believe he was
ever going to make it to them. So you know,
you start, you start there, and I guess in a
lot of ways and you get to the end of it.
That was a tipping point on what they were going
to do for the rest of the draft.

Speaker 6 (03:00:00):
They were going to.

Speaker 5 (03:00:03):
Very specifically look at players that they wanted and fit
what they needed. They could care less about value for
everybody else. They could care less about the train. As
often Sean says, Hey, everybody thinks we're taking a running back,
Well guess we're taking a cornerback. You know, we are
going to take a running back at some point, But
they don't mind waiting until the end of the second
round after they trade back twice, even though there are

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people out there saying you gotta take Caleb Johnson, and
it's like, well, you actually like some of the younger
guys we have here. So they went specific with a
lot of these players, and they what with players they
really love Like this. This wasn't like we're going to
take the players that everybody thinks we should take. We're
going to take the players that we think we should take.

Speaker 7 (03:00:41):
Yeah, end of the day, favorite player, biggest regret.

Speaker 6 (03:00:45):
I'll let you start.

Speaker 7 (03:00:46):
Favorite player. I'll go R J Harvey. I mean, I've
been pounding the table for this guy for a while.
I think I see Broncos Twitter saying he's too small. Now, guys,
he's the same size as Aaron Jones. He's three pounds
later than Trevion Henderson. Yeah, all everybody was on board
with that. He runs with good power, four less missteckles
forced than Amari and Hampton, A pretty powerful runner in
his own right. I just the visions there. I think

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he's a really really awesome player. I don't know. I
think Broncos Country kind of got tunnel vision on the
two running backs they really really wanted and our guy.
Everyone talked about how strong this running back class was.
For a reason, running back five to six in this
class is still a baller, and I think Harvey's exactly
that will be an instant impact player.

Speaker 6 (03:01:25):
What was the most.

Speaker 9 (03:01:28):
That you didn't get?

Speaker 13 (03:01:29):
You know?

Speaker 7 (03:01:29):
I have some regret about Bryant, I guess, and even that,
when I can talk myself into it does seem like
maybe because they were doing such a good job moving
up and down the board, figures they didn't get oh oh,
that they didn't get good news. Uh, Toya, I think
late you know you wanted the punter too. You wanted
to trade back, and that'll makes sense to me. I

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just think the one problem that I think showed up
more than anything, more than a lack of weapons, more
than needing help in the secondary anything in that playoff
game was you can get physically dominated by the bigger
teams of the league. Saw it against the Ravens too,
And I like a lot of the players they drafted.
I don't know if they addressed that maybe lack of
size and physicality up front. You know, He's a really

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exciting player, He's a smaller edge. You know, Savian's a
bigger edge, but they probably kick him inside where he's
going to be a smaller interior player. I really like
both those picks, but I wish they maybe rounded it
out with one two gap or just like an absolute
maller in the run game. They could play on early
downs and just feel great about that from the jump.

Speaker 5 (03:02:32):
I think easy to say jodd A Barron would be
the favorite because I've just been a fan of his.
I just didn't think you'd be there, so most of
the time that we were talking about the Broncos options,
it just wasn't really was really my options.

Speaker 6 (03:02:43):
But I say him, I like Savian a lot.

Speaker 5 (03:02:46):
I think that's I think he actually is going to
be a really good defensive lineman for the Broncos, and
he's going to give them a really nice rotation when
he rounds into form a lot of power there and
that's something that he brings. And he's got a work ethic,
he's available, he plays all the time.

Speaker 6 (03:03:01):
So twenty seven straight starts to close out his career.
So like that, what about you?

Speaker 8 (03:03:06):
I think I would go with uh, I think I
go with Pat Bryan. He sold me like he just
keeps like it, just keeps selling me. That was the
one I was probably the most surprised by, and it's
the one I'm kind of the most sold on now.
As far as biggest regret d on Walker not getting
they on Walker. Yeah, he likes big, big stuff and
mountain of a man right there at the pivot point
in the middle. Because as that point, yet, the biggest

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teams that the teams that we got blown out by
were teams that beat.

Speaker 6 (03:03:29):
Us up, They out madus, they out physical.

Speaker 8 (03:03:30):
To say, it'd be Baltimore in Buffalo, and I would
suggest that he would be a big time contributor to
slowing that down.

Speaker 2 (03:03:38):
All right.

Speaker 5 (03:03:39):
To wrap up our coverage, twenty twenty five NFL Draft
is in the books. I want to thank our incredible
crew that put this all together. Shannon Scott running everything
out here, Anthony Rodriguez tremendous job on social media over
a million views, hits, impressions on Twitter, Grant Smith back
in the studio as well as Dave up for helping

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us out out here as well. Thank you to the
Broncos Beaty relations staff as well. They've been phenomenal. Can't
thank them enough for everything. For Dave Logan, Rick Lewis,
Susie Warrigon, Benjamin Albright, Zach.

Speaker 6 (03:04:11):
Seegers, Ran Edwards, Nick Ferguson. We will talk to you
on Monday. Have a good night, everybody,