04-26-25 NFL Draft Rounds 4-7 Coverage Part 1

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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All Right, welcome today three of the twenty twenty five
NFL drafts. Ryan Edwards, Benjamin Albright live from Broncos Park
powered by Common Spirit. The Broncos two selections today as
we sit here, and a fourth rounder and a sixth rounder.
We'll get into that in just a little bit, but
we have all sorts of fun stuff over the next well,
I don't know about nine hours of coverage, which I'm

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very excited about. I'm looking for with vinces discuss as
big as dinner sausers. Uh so, yeah. We obviously going
to react to the picks from yesterday, which really fun
interviews with those prospects that the Broncos drafted. We'll bring
those to you. Rick Lewis is going to be by
here in an hour. We're gonna have a comedian Brad
Williams on the show. Zack Segers. Everybody's dying to listen

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to Zach Seger's breakdown coming up a little afternoon. He
actually very high on the Broncos draft pics, which I'm
very excited to hear. I keep shocked by he did
a deep dive into the stats of Pat Bryant, so
I can't wait to talk to him about that afternoon today.
But ben High, how's it going.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
Yeah, it's a good thing that he got that I
misspelled it, put it into Google. It ended up doing
a deep dive on Pat Benatar and it was not
nearly as as rewarding.

Speaker 5 (01:35):
Somewhere, Dave Prepper's already growing.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Welcome to Saturday. Everybody somewhere Dave teppers are, oh no,
it's started already.

Speaker 5 (01:43):
She's saying Barracuda right, Oh, we're already loopy? No, I yeah, no.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
Pat Bryant was somebody I didn't really have on my radar.
So from yeah, for me, I'm not really gonna get
in anything more than the surface stuff until, you know,
until next week.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Let's hear the opening up day three.

Speaker 5 (02:02):
Come on, you can do better than Thatt. There you
go much, you tell Garage Sheriff Roge.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
Thank you to the University of.

Speaker 6 (02:12):
Wisconsin Marching Band for setting the tone for what will
be an important day to the NFL and all their clubs.
And thank you Green Bay for the hospitality and for
making this.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Such an incredible experience. You're wonderful, So thank you.

Speaker 7 (02:30):
Before we get started, I want to thank a couple
of special guests.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Over to my right.

Speaker 7 (02:34):
Here next to me, we have local Green Bay business
owners who.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Have helped make this draft happen.

Speaker 5 (02:42):
Thank you. We couldn't have done it without you.

Speaker 7 (02:49):
We also have behind us all thirty two international fans
of the year who have traveled from around the globe
to be here in Green Bay.

Speaker 5 (02:57):
Thank you. Also on stage.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
Are some amazing young women.

Speaker 7 (03:09):
They are flag football players from high schools around Wisconsin.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Thank you all for being here and playing our game.
All right, Green Bay, let's do it.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
You ready?

Speaker 5 (03:27):
Round four?

Speaker 7 (03:27):
The twenty twenty five NFL Draft is now officially open.

Speaker 5 (03:32):
The Tennessee Titans are on the clock.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
All right, there you go. Commentary goodell, Yeah, you tell him,
Sheriff Rod that a lot of the way he plays
into the booze.

Speaker 5 (03:43):
I love it. I love the way he loves that.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
So good. Good to lean in. Good to lean in. Yeah,
Tepper's already already heat. Bennet eyed me with the Pat
Benatar jokes early on. You're you're in mid Saturday for
a bed listen?

Speaker 4 (03:56):
I love you?

Speaker 5 (03:57):
You know?

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Yeah? Good. So anyways, we got all sorts of really
fun stuff coming up over the course of the show,
and I guess a lot of people are going to
be wondering what's gonna happen with Shod or Sanders. So
not only are we tracking what the Broncos are going
to do with their two picks, but they stay put,
they move back, so on and so forth. What is
going to happen with Shood or Sanders?

Speaker 4 (04:14):
Ben you did some diving into that last night. What
can you tell us? There are several teams that had
discussions last night about Okay, do we make this move now?

Speaker 5 (04:22):
At this point?

Speaker 4 (04:23):
Is this getting to the point of absurdity where we
need to go ahead and you know and get this guy?

Speaker 3 (04:28):
You know.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
One of those teams to keep your eye on is
the Indianapolis Colts. I don't know what they ultimately decided,
but they were definitely having a.

Speaker 5 (04:33):
Meeting on that.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
That's the team that's not settled at the quarterback position.
They got Anthony Richardson, who kind of flopped as a
first rounder. They brought in Daniel Jones via free agency.
Supposed to be a competition there, But why not why
not throw your hat in the ring on that for
shood Door Sanders. I mean, it's not like, you know,
Daniel Jones and Anthony Richardson have really excited anybody that
they could be the guy.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
And you know, what's the worst that happens here?

Speaker 4 (04:53):
You spend a mid round pick on somebody to add
a little spice and competition to it. And yeah, to
be honest with you, the indian Appolis Colts. You know,
we talk about the coasts dominating the media headlines. We
don't really see a lot of Indianapolis Colts headlines. This
might put them back in the spotlight a little bit
for the NFL. So and I think they can absorb
it if they if they were, yeah they could so
if they're if they're.

Speaker 5 (05:13):
A team that wanted to make that move, I mean
that would certainly be.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
I think a culture shock for a sut wharse Sanders.
But you know, I think I think they're a team
that that could be in the mix there.

Speaker 5 (05:21):
We'll see how that goes.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
I believe he's gonna go in probably the fourth round here.
I believe he's gonna go h fairly fairly early today.
Maybe not with the first pick, but he could go
fairly early today.

Speaker 5 (05:32):
So we'll see.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Cults are about fifteen picks into this round. They're picking
at one seventeen. We have one O three with the
Titans getting ready to be selected here as we opened
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On x SO, Titans seeing some movers that they might
they are gonna go wide receiver Tamea Dyke is going

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to be a picked here. So that there was a
removers that they they might go wide receiver early. There's
still some talents of wide receivers here. At the top
of the draft. You know, we get into a point
where teams are looking for fit, much like the Broncos
with Pat Bryant. You're looking for fit like I would
say Jalen Royles and you and I are both big
fans at a Utah State that would have been a
great slam dunk pick here. I think for anybody, Tory

(06:42):
Horton is another guy I really like, obviously for CSU
connected connections. Elik a Ominar out of Stanford is another
big one. I'm wondering where Isaiah Bond is going to
ultimately go. Do you even think he gets drafted.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
That's one that I think people are going to put
off on just because the off field issues. You know,
you're talking about a guy who recently had to postpond
because he you know, he got arrested, he got off field.
Anytime you get to to guys like that, who you know,
the situation is a little bit different when you're in
a premium position. The situation is a little bit different
when you're an elite talent at a premium position. But

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if you're if you're considered you know, an average, Hey,
this guy could be something, and you've got the off
field that's when it starts to get like, all right,
do we really want is the juice worth the squeeze here?

Speaker 5 (07:25):
Do we really want to take the chance on this
or let somebody else deal with this mess?

Speaker 4 (07:28):
And U And I think that's the thing. Also when
it comes out that you've got off field stuff in between,
you know, in the process, like after the combine and
before the draft, guys get things for that pretty hard.
You know, that's one of those things like you should
be on your best behavior during this span, like, you know,
why are you getting in trouble? Cause Dak Prescott probably
the first round when he got a DUI next in

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the day, So you know, I think that's I think
that's part of it.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
You listary the Titans pick here as they're going to
select ja Mary Dyke out of Florida four three, four forty.
He's a a awesome deep threat and the Tennessee Tights
look up to add some speed running his concern.

Speaker 6 (08:04):
You see that nice smooth stride went up to he
catches the ball and he gets hit his.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
Own I guess they're not airing the pick quickly.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
He's a guy who off less special teams a.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
BIL but switch over to NFL network at least on
our end, grant that they're uh, they got to pick
up there. But yeah, so that that is the first
wide receiver off the board. I'm also interested to see
where Tesz Johnson ends up going from Oregon. Uh Bo
Nix's brother. And again if his forty times and it's
amazing in this league, what tends to happen. He's a

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four to five to one guy. M At was a.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
Five one hundred and fifty five pounds.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
If he was a four to four guy, probably would
have be a Day two pick. Maybe maybe he'd slipped
into Day three. If he ended up being like a
four to three something, he would have easily gone it
because the production. You watch him play at Oregon and
he looks he looks like a tremendous player. Yeah, but
then you get to the pros and you're like, hey,
you're four to five and if you're five to ten,
you're not six five. It's a big difference traits.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
Yeah, anyway, you can't be he can't be small and slow.
That that's sort of the thing, and he plays faster
than his time. But you can't be you can't be
my build at five ten, one fifty five. You can't
be my build and then turn around and and run slow.

Speaker 5 (09:15):
That's uh.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
You know, if you see the guys that tackle in
the NFL, they're going to hurt you. And so maybe
you know, maybe I'm built a little more of the
mid section the test Johnson. Maybe he's built a little
more in the arms and chest. You know, whatever muscle
versus fat, however that works out.

Speaker 5 (09:26):
Well, I was just gonna say, you're basically the same
same players.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
It's like a old buddy, you know, who's who's basically
and he Isabella.

Speaker 5 (09:32):
And Isabella that's right, practically the same person.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
So but yeah, I mean that's that's the thing. Man, Like,
I'm excited to see what he ends up doing. I
know there is some medicals with Xavier Rastreppo. I also
like him out of Miami.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
Yeah, medicals, you know, and he's he's going to be
available for a little while too. That's probably somebody you
take a flyer on in the sixth seventh, you know,
just a dark throw there at the NA if its
incredible route run works.

Speaker 5 (09:56):
If it doesn't, it doesn't kind of thing.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
But yeah, you can't be you know, in the NF
you can't be small ant slow. You gotta be You
could be one, you can be the other, but you
can't be.

Speaker 5 (10:04):
Both, all right.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
So the next pick here will be the Jacksonville Jaguars,
who are pick one oh four.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
There are several people that have suggested that they should
reunite Travis and Schauduur there.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
You know, their backup situation is not all that great.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
You have John Walford Nick Mullins there, so I mean
that would represent an upgrade at the backup quarterback. But
you got a new coaching staff, you had a new
GM there, really bringing that circus to town for you know,
we're gonna have pressers for the backup quarterback well, because
you know what was gonna happen, right, First of all,
you did the trade for Trips Hunter, and there's gonna
be a certain segment of the fan base that would
like to see Trap and Shoulder playing together. And it's

(10:43):
been a little bit of a rough ride there recently
for Trevor Lawrence.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
So yeah, I could see that being a pretty significant distraction,
even though again for the story. I think we'd all
we we'd outside the Jacksonville area would love it.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
There's a symmetry there. But at the same time, I mean,
Jacksonville's got out the needs. They just traded way a
bunch of picks to, you know, to acquire Travis Hunter,
so that they need, they've got out of the needs
across the roster. I would be very surprised if that
were the pick, although I've certainly seen the speculation.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
Yeah, no, I don't. I don't see that happening at all.
But once again, oh, it's gonna be twoton. Here we go,
all right, Bachel Tuton is gonna go here running back
to go number one oh four. And that's that's a
guy you had talked about coming into day two that
you thought actually had a chance of going day two
now goes early day three. I thought I smelled that happening,
but it was you know, it was are you twelve? Yes, okay,

(11:30):
I know. He was the guy I thought could have
gone yesterday.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
And you know, there was some some indicators that maybe
you know, that maybe Dallas might be interested there and
adding him to the room. That's interesting that Jacksonville does,
because I mean, you got at the end. Who maybe
maybe on the chopping block. Yeah, Tank Bigsby there, Uh,
that's a that's a three headed jabberwokie if I ever
saw one.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
So, you know, you feel like there might be an
odd man out. He had over two thousand rushing yards
of the last two seasons, twenty five touchdowns, and he
had the fastest I want to say it was the
ten ten yards split. Yeah, the ten yards split fastest
the combine. So a lot of lots to like about
Tuton And anyway, it's one of those things where for
running backs. I think that's when the Broncos selected R. J. Harvey.

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And depending on what mock draft machine you tend to use,
you might have said, wow, it feels like a reach
because I was able to get him in the fourth
or fifth round. Well, that doesn't necessarily mean that's where
he was going to go. Chris Sims had him in
his third highest graded running back. Yeah, and there are
a lot of teams that really had high grades, high
error grades on R. J. Harvey and the assumption that
to him, maybe Pat Brian, maybe maybe we were off

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on Pat Brian. A lot of people out there thought
he was going to be a day three guy, But
the Broncos obviously saw something there that they felt like
that they had to take him where. They were reading
some stuff this morning, mel Kiper et cetera, who you know,
sort of panned some of these as reaches. What would
you say, what do you say to stuff like that?

Speaker 4 (12:50):
I would say that that's media fluff. There aren't steals
and reaches. That's not a thing. Either you get you
guys and they work out or they don't. I hate
that concept. I hate the concept draft grades. You know,
we haven't seen anybody play. Are you gonna have a
grade on somebody? You never saw a play?

Speaker 8 (13:07):
Like?

Speaker 5 (13:07):
What do you? You know?

Speaker 3 (13:07):
What are we doing?

Speaker 5 (13:08):
So? I hate that stuff.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
I think, you know, let's see the vision, let's see
it play out.

Speaker 5 (13:12):
Let's give it, give them the benefit of the out.

Speaker 4 (13:13):
These are the guys they want, Okay, cool, Let's see
it play out.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
And then when it plays out or doesn't, then you
go from there. Rick Lewis is going to be heartbroken.
The Giants are taking camps Kataboo here on day three,
go figure, what do you have to spike? The football?

Speaker 5 (13:28):
And everything? Not everything?

Speaker 4 (13:29):
Everything like itself right, it's sitting there lonely. It's not
getting used. You got to pick that thing up and spiking.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
Not everything has to be I was right and everybody
else was wrong.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
It does, It definitely does. The world is a binary place.
Everything is is a zero one. Okay, you know only
sith speaking, absolutely, but absolutely a Sith.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
I'm leaning we all.

Speaker 5 (13:50):
Know I'm not a Jedi.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
But good for Camps Kataboo going there to the New
York Giants. We'll have Rick Lewis on with us here
in about forty five minutes. I'm sure he'll have some
thoughts on that pick. The Broncos taking RG Harvey when
they did it kind of felt like it's not to
say that they won't to select another running back. It
feels like they have some other needs. And here on
day three, you're you're looking for some fit slash need,

(14:14):
You're looking for some flyers. You and I both maintain
a tight end. Would be a good pick at some
point here, And yeah, Gunner Helm, I mean, that's that's
kind of the name.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
Certainly, certainly would be a feel good story having you know,
our own Dave Logan, having coached him in high school,
and you know, if he were to come here to
the Broncos.

Speaker 5 (14:32):
I think Rondi Gadsden the second. There's some ties there.

Speaker 4 (14:35):
Godston's father played for the Miami Dolphins when George was
George Peyton was there working with the Miami Dolphins organization,
the front office.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
So there's there's certainly some tight ends out there that has.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
Some ties still to the Broncos people here.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
The Broncos are not selecting for a while. They are
one thirty four and we're currently at one o six.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
Yeah, there could be some movement today in fact, that
could see him going back off that one point thirty
just you know, just depending.

Speaker 5 (14:58):
I think they want to.

Speaker 4 (14:59):
I think they'd like the I'm away with three picks
today when all said and done.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
Okay, so they got a fourth, they got a six.
We'll tell you more about those. We're often rolling here
on a Saturday morning with you guys. Thanks for rolling
with us, Benjamin Albright, Ryan Edwards, and you know we'll
come back. We'll continue to talk about what the Broncos
have done, what they'll be looking for. We'll keep you
posting on all the picks and here early on on
day three, I mean some of these guys were sort
of targeted pick to be day two players. You know,

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for example, we talked about Baschil Tootin is a guy
that we all thought that was going to go probably
day two. Here he is right at the top of
day three. So there are more players like that, and
again Shaw Door Sanders, We're gonna continue to track that
story as we move along through the morning. KOY Broncos
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Hi, welcome back to day three of the NFL drafts
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Spirit Health text line five six six nine zero. If
you want to react to not only what the Broncos
have done so far, with the four picks that they
have or what you want them to do here on
day three, we'd love to chat with you. And yeah,
we got Rick Lows joining us here at the top

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of the hour. Some players now flying off the board.
We got a safety going a moment ago, Craig Woodson
out of cal Is going to the Patriots at pick
one oh six. Once again, the Broncos not picking until
one thirty four, so we got a little bit of
time to hang out with you. And yeah, it'll be
actually good timing for Rick.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
You'll get here and basically we get to sit down
and react to the pick, assuming they stay put.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
They do not have a fifth rounder currently. In fact,
they haven't had a fifth rounder even through the trade backs.
They ended up swapping one of their sixth rounders basically
to get a fourth. They moved up in the third,
they moved up in the fourth at one point, and
then they had a seventh in a moment, and then
that thing's gone now with the Saveon Jones trade. So

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as they sit here one thirty four, one ninety seven,
where the Broncos are currently at, hold on, we I
think you picked up the wrong head set. It's okay,
you're just a radio professional.

Speaker 5 (17:29):
This is professional?

Speaker 4 (17:30):
Is a better?

Speaker 5 (17:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (17:31):
Yeah, I know, I think that it's it's been fascinating
watching them take the ride on the you know, going
back and forth on the on the draft picks and everything.
Maybe George Payton will write the Art of the deal too,
and you know, how to how to win the draft.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
You're not as funny as you think you are.

Speaker 5 (17:45):
It wasn't meant to be funny.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
Okay, Jack Kaiser linebacker and another dame just went to Jacksonville.
So they start the day with a running back and
an inside linebacker. Yeah, I mean again, you know, Jacksonville
is an interesting thing because I was reading an article
this morning on them about how, you know, again their
their entire drafts can be based on what they did
at the top of it because they've they certainly hamstrung

(18:07):
themselves and picks. So if Travis Hunter hits and he's
at everything that we kind of hope he could be,
then they're gonna be good. Although I do like these
two value picks here at the beginning of day.

Speaker 4 (18:16):
I think that's what you have to do if you're Jacksonville.
I mean, you blew through a ton of draft capital.
To move up three spots and get Travis Hunter, who
you have to sell to your fan bases.

Speaker 5 (18:25):
Two picks rolled into one, a corner and a receiver.

Speaker 4 (18:28):
Uh, and then you turn it around and you've got
to hit on these other things. You have too many
holes in your roster. That that was the reason when
they made that trade in the first place. I was
a little like, Okay, is this the team to make
that move?

Speaker 3 (18:38):
And despite their their new general managers weird Denzel likes
soliloquy about how they you know, their hopes and dreams
and what.

Speaker 5 (18:46):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
They lost me in that way. It was weird, Yeah,
a little weird. It felt like Aaron Sorkin wrote his
like like a speech for why we drafted Travis Hunter.
It was like it was like Chad GBT does Aaron Sorkin?

Speaker 4 (18:57):
Wasn't Aaron doing Yeah? It was very clear on knock
off subcontract acted it out. It was like kirkland Brand
Aaron Sorkins doctor Thunder.

Speaker 5 (19:03):
It was I've tried to get it to la I
can't get it a crack.

Speaker 4 (19:07):
Great value, which, by the way, I can't say nothing
nice things about Walmart. As you sit here side brought. Yeah,
it's the greatest. Drop is better than Mountain Dew.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
Right, Nobody says that, but they should.

Speaker 4 (19:20):
I just saying, Look, if you're listening right now, citterspot
drop is better than Mountain Dew.

Speaker 5 (19:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
No, But I mean if you're the Jags, like, you
have to hit on these pigs. It's like the Cincinnati Bengals.
You know, you you paid so many guys on the
offensive side, you're drafted for defense. You've got to hit
on these or else you're not gonna field a complete
football team.

Speaker 5 (19:36):
And that's kind of where Jacksonville is right now.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
The Raiders up next here at pick one, awaits and
the Bears. Again, it's so early to be like on
a specific player watch.

Speaker 5 (19:46):
Well, I mean shoot or I think everybody's on that
wat I'm.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
Saying, But otherwise for the Broncos, I'm saying whatever, watch.
Although the impassionate speech that Sean Payne gave last night
that's making the rounds about.

Speaker 5 (19:57):
Shudor Well, then everybody on Twitter's like, well, then.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
Why you draft?

Speaker 4 (20:01):
You can't because you don't want to undermine the bow.
Next thing, right, like, do we really want pressers for
for sor while.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
Bo you know, I thought what he said was great.
I really did. I thought it was great, and we
obviously got a run, a lot of run. Even Adam
Scheffer this morning was tweeting out, by the way, one
of your guys, Deanton Thornton or Dante Thornton just went
the problem. Yeah, he just went, I know that's some
of your problems. But I thought about that. I was like,
you know, people could take this and be like, you know,
you only have two quarterbacks on your roster right now,

(20:29):
like him as Jared Stidham so spark Why why wouldn't
you consider drafting a day three quarterback that was basically
in your backyard and you went as he talked about,
went and watched him throw it. Literally stood next to
him at the at the pro day, and.

Speaker 5 (20:44):
He kept looking at me weird.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
But it was you know, I mean, well you were
you know, you're never mind.

Speaker 4 (20:51):
You know, I almost did a Benjamin all right where
I wanted to take a ten percent and then you
would have gone over the top and then we'd be
off the air. Yeah, and I don't want to do
that instead of right, he's ready to yank us any minute.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
The reason why Dave came down here.

Speaker 5 (21:02):
Like, why did you bring a shepherd's crook? It's kind
of weird. There we go. I gotta laugh.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
You finally got one.

Speaker 5 (21:08):
Might have been a pity laugh, but I'll take it.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
You gotta take it where you get it. I think
I think you kind of burned a little bit there
with a Pat Benattar joke off the top.

Speaker 5 (21:17):
Fire away.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
Anyways, Buffalo here at one o nine.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
God Shatay Thornton of the Raiders is gonna be a problem,
especially in chim Kelly's offense. Like he is gonna be
a problem. He's big, he's fast. You've had a good
draft so far.

Speaker 5 (21:31):
He is.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
I'm just saying like he is. He's big, and he's fast,
and he catches well.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
At six five two five.

Speaker 4 (21:36):
He was highly productive. They just like the way that
they did things at Tennessee. They didn't give him the ball
as much as they probably should have. Uh, and that
that really but he I mean he was their leading
guy with only I think it was was sixty receptions
stuff like that, and led them in yards and touchdowns.
Have to go back and look, he just did not
get as many targets as he probably should have. And
I think if they peppered him with targets a little more,
he probably would have gone a lot sooner.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
Five six, six nine zero. Checking in on the text line,
I have about fifteen been question marks. Yeah, that sounds
about right. So Hi Brian, Hi Brian got to be
a tight end in the fourth round? Correct, they don't
you know?

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Maybe?

Speaker 5 (22:15):
I mean tight end is the last need I think
that they have.

Speaker 4 (22:19):
They're probably going to take a tight end offensive line
and today, like I said, I think they'd like to
come away even though they only have two pitch right now,
I think they'd like to come away with three on
the day.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
And I would not be.

Speaker 5 (22:28):
Surprised to see tight end.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
I voted in the space for to see them all
the offense, tight end, offensive line, and maybe a second
running back.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
So we'll see.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
We'll see hut shakes out, which They've got plenty of
time left on all that. And you know, I know
people are rooting for the gunner Helm thing obviously, but
we'll see what their vision is.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
It is remarkable, by the way how people tend to
feel about an NFL draft. This is just more of
a oh.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
They get invested that it becomes their identity. Like I'm invested.
We have to take this player, and if we don't,
it's a failure.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
Well, well that with the added it has to be
a player they know to be a good draft like that.
And I say this for media as well as for fans, like,
if you you know certain names, and it's because you
watch college football or maybe you listen to certain draft
podcasts or whatever it is, But if you don't know
those names, it's not a good draft.

Speaker 5 (23:14):
But that's what I really can't be good.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
Yeah, that's just really not how teams look at it.
And I think more often than not, I guess for
our perspective, you and I and I'm not gonna speak
for you, but we tend to say, Okay, well maybe
that wasn't the that I would necessarily selected there wide receiver,
but I'm certainly going to get the Broncos who have
earned it the benefit of the doubt, and I want
to see what their plan is for this player. I
want to see what their vision is. You know, Chris

(23:38):
Abrams Drain was a guy last year that I knew about,
but I did a much deeper dive into him after
the Broncos drafted him, and oh my god, I loved
watching him, you know, But I mean it's like it's
like you're aware of these guys, like I know Pat
Bryant is, but I did not do it, you know.
I'm like, I didn't know he caught ten touchdowns. I
didn't know it was a school record. I didn't know
he was a team captain. And those are just things

(23:59):
that you get to change, sit sort of dive in
and there's a reason why the Broncos do what they do,
and they do their homework on these pop.

Speaker 4 (24:05):
Yeah, like the Devon Valley thing last year, yet hold
of it comes out balls out in training camp. So
you know, I think you got to give them the
benefit of the doubt. Let the guys get on the field.
But before we're sitting here trying to trying to sweat that.
All right, So, Dian Walker, another guy that you liked
out of Kentucky, just went to the Buffalo Bills Benjamin
Albright to run this happening right now, Well, I assume

(24:27):
that they called all these teams called obviously seeking my
permission to draft these players today.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
This is a real thing that really happened. There's part
of you that probably believes some of that. Now, moving
chess pieces there's not I would never Okay, well but
also maybe.

Speaker 10 (24:42):
But also I'm not not saying, uh, if we are
looking at tight ends just for a moment here, Gunner
Heelm out of Texas, Mitchell Evans at a Notre Dame,
Jackson Haws out of Georgia, Tech CJ.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
Dupree out of Alabama are the top guys that are
on the list here. I know you're on de Gats
and guy again brings a lot. Clemson is there, so
it's still quite a few players out there. But I
guess come back to the point of if the Broncos
end up drafting Gunner Helm, a getting local product, had
a good season in Texas. He looks like he could

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be a guy that you could really sort of invest in.
I think a lot of Broncos fans will kind of
come back to the pack, the ones that have been
kind of on the outside being like, I don't know what,
I saw all sorts of posts last night and even
this morning of like the Broncos let the draft slip
through their fingers around me aggressive enough. They're not doing
this and they're not doing that. They could have gone
and got Tyler Warren. They could have gone and got
Trayvon Henderson and in the end they you know, they

(25:36):
take r J. Harvey, they take Pat Bryan, they trade
up and get save On Jones and that's what they have.
So we live in then, now and now. I guess
it's our place to sort of disseminate. All right, well
this was the plan, This was the plan. This weird
target players. And you heard George talk about r J.
Harvey last night, And how could you come away from
that conversation not think the Broncos were very high on
this player all along?

Speaker 4 (25:58):
My thing is in the thing a bugs me is
you can't be the guy who's sitting there fawning over
Sean Payton telling me he's a he's a mega genius
and then you know, be ripping him for the draft
picks that he want, the guys that he wants to
make that work.

Speaker 5 (26:08):
Right, I don't know, And that's been critical of Sean Paige,
like what are you doing here?

Speaker 4 (26:13):
Give us a give the vision a chance at least
you know, if if you you were sitting here telling
me how good this coach is and he's telling this
general manager I need these players, the general manager goes
and gets those players and you're sitting there telling me, well,
this is bad drafting, and they think and all this
kind of stuff.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
I don't understand. There's a disparity there that I can't reconcile.
A couple more texts here on the Ka Commas Spirit
Health text line five six six nine zero, Ryan Whi,
it's been all bright Day three of the NFL Draft.
Ricks Lewis is gonna join us at eleven. I'm an
Olie Gordon advocate, fellas I believe he can be an
explosive three down guy here at four.

Speaker 4 (26:43):
I'm gonna be all at Gordon fan two. So I'm
with you on that, and I'm interested to see where
he goes.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
You know, we had a little mini running on running
backs here at the top of the draft. He feels
like a fifth or sixth round kind of running back,
which again remarkable to me because a year ago we
had conversations about it at the top as one of
the best guys.

Speaker 11 (27:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (27:01):
I think the other thing that Detextor mentioned that three
down look that Sean Payton doesn't use those kind of guys.
Sean Payton is going to use a rotation at the
running back position.

Speaker 5 (27:08):
That's what he does.

Speaker 4 (27:09):
Sure, So you don't need a three down Bellkaki. You
gotta find guys they fit what Sean Payton wants. You
got to be able to pass protect. You gotta be
able to catch the ball out of the backfield. Uh,
and you've got to be able to run between the tackles.
You've got to be able to run, you know, uh,
run those powers and run run that gap scheme instead
of just getting outside.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
From profit, chiming in high profit. He said. Ben's anti
Irish prejudice is showing after they beat Army in all seriouness,
all seriousness, keep up the great word, guys, thank you, prophet.

Speaker 5 (27:37):
I'm not in time.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
I was pro Ben Morrison the corner out of Notre Dame,
not anti Irish.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
So it's got a point.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
What about what just because they beat up on my
beloved army because they're not Patriots.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
Well, every single time Rylan Leonard's name comes up, you
just yeah, you.

Speaker 5 (27:55):
Just get this grimnas on your face.

Speaker 4 (27:57):
I hate that guy, you say him. Those two running
backs were onto that game. It's like watching somebody play mad. Know.

Speaker 5 (28:03):
The easiest setting this one.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
I really like Britain stool his for this offense. But
he may be a tad redundant with Ingram already, maybe
as a two year growth project. As Ingram tolls his
contract out. I like him in the sixth round for
that role. I'm here for it, I think, And that's
about right where he's gonna go, I imagine.

Speaker 5 (28:22):
Yeah, Gadston's kind of the same guy as Ingram as well.

Speaker 4 (28:26):
You know, Helm started out Davill ta Helm started as
a wide receiver for him before he moved over to tight.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
End well texta rolling in five six six nine zero.
Good to have you guys here with us on a
Saturday morning. I'm not mad at the picks or anything
more intrigued by the picks and curious how.

Speaker 5 (28:41):
It all works out.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
I'm very curious how they use all these guys, especially Pat,
I mean, and I like that. I'd rather see the
curiosity than the blind anger, you know like that that
For me, it's just it's misplaced and it really probably
doesn't do very much for you because it's not like
you can change any of it. The Bronco has already

(29:03):
selected the player. So once again, I'm not here to
box this thing, or tell you how to feel, tell
you how to fan, or any of those kinds of
things that think it's just an acknowledgement of Okay, well,
we can spend our energy on the things that they
didn't get. And I've seen plenty of people calling for
George Payton's job as a result of this draft, which
is just insanity. But you could take a moment and

(29:25):
to say, Okay, maybe I don't know everything about everything,
and I'm going to see how this plays out. Now
if you know, three years, which is usually the time
you get to know a draft prospect, whether it's going
to play out, if Pat Bryant doesn't end up doing
very much for this team, and then you say, hey, there,
I told you so there were other wide receivers in
that range. I was right, you were wrong. Sure at
that point, go for it. By that point, I think
you've probably forgotten about it because we've had two or

(29:46):
three more drafts since then, the Broncos have won a championship,
they won a Super Bowl, and then you don't really care.

Speaker 5 (29:52):
So yeah, I think that.

Speaker 4 (29:54):
I mean, there's at this point in time, we're just
trying to acquire talent to you know, to add to
the you know, add to the deck. So again, I
don't understand the people complaining the same people that were
complaining when they took Pats er Tan over Justin Fields.

Speaker 5 (30:06):
Now Fields is on his third team and Pats are
Tan's defensive player of the year.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
Like, just give it time, let's let it, let it
play out, let's see the let's see the vision here.
I get you can have excitement or a lack thereof
them getting their guy or not getting their your guy.
But you know, to day, this is their guys.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
These are the guys.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
They haven't put their list out publicly, they're doing it now.

Speaker 5 (30:24):
These are their guys.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
So I think there's something too at least giving that
a shot. By the way, one things I really love
about Pat Bryant that we didn't get it into last night,
doesn't draft a ball much.

Speaker 5 (30:34):
No, he doesn't get one drop last year, I want
one of the best.

Speaker 4 (30:37):
You also had three game winning catches, and that goes
a long way with with evaluators like this in big moments,
this guy shows up and makes the play, and there's.

Speaker 5 (30:46):
Something to be said for that.

Speaker 4 (30:47):
So you know, as much as I was a little
I mean I was, I was sitting there, I was
that was another second time I've been surprised in a
single draft, and I was sitting there looking like, Okay,
all right, let me go.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
I'm gonna deep dive on that guy Sunday when I
get the time.

Speaker 4 (30:59):
But it looked at a few clips last night, I'm like, Okay,
so his sure handed guy's gonna remind you, Tim Patrick,
I think fans are gonna gonna love this.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
No, I like him a lot now now that we've
had a chance to watch him a little bit more.
And we were watching clips of him last night during
the draft, and yeah, I certainly like him a lot more.
I don't know if I could see everything Sean sees
just yet with the whole Michael Thomas traits thing. But
but again, that was a little let him have it.
You know, he is Sean, you know, like he's He's
scouted these guys in his entire life, So I'll let

(31:26):
him have that. But again, it's it's to say that
I see why he got excited about him, not only
for his personality, which we loved and we had a
great interview with him after he's picked, but then also
because yeah, he does make some explosive plays, and though
he ran a four to six one at the combine,
he doesn't look like a four to six to one
forty guy.

Speaker 4 (31:43):
And I gave a list yesterday at four to six
guys that you know that went on to success and
Kwam Bolden was just fine, Cooper Cup was just fine.
In this league, you know, there's plenty of guys out
there have had four four six forties that have that
have succeeded in the NFL.

Speaker 5 (31:57):
So give it time. Let's see it that. You don't
have to be a burner. In Sean Payton's.

Speaker 4 (32:01):
Offense, he usually likes one of those on the back side.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
The rest of these guys are sure handed receivers.

Speaker 5 (32:05):
That's what he looks for.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
Arian Smith wide receiver at Georgia going to the Jets
at one ten, Ty Robinson defensive tackle in Nebrasko going
at one eleven here, and then we got the Saints
at one twelve picking weve Rick Lewis joining us here
at the top of the hour. Some more texts on
the KOEI Common Spirit Health text line five six six

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nine zero. Shawn is arrogant. Some of it might be
I got Colson in the seventh and Kamara in the third.
Don't need top projected players. It's true and nice, But
how realistic is it to constantly.

Speaker 5 (32:38):
Hit on that?

Speaker 4 (32:38):
How much of a zigo? I think it's a fair question.
I think it's a fair question. I think the other
part of that, though, is is that he routinely did
stuff like that. I mean, it's not like you didn't
go to the first and find guys as well. You
have Brandon Cooks and Reggie Bush and you know, mark
Ingram and Cam Jordan. I would suggest that, you know, again,
let's see it. You know, when when Sean Payton was
hired here, I told you, guys like the wide receiver

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room's gonna ge to makeover.

Speaker 5 (33:00):
This is what he looks for. He has a very
specific type.

Speaker 4 (33:02):
Thanks one guy that's a burner on the backside, and
then you're gonna have a bunch of big body, sure
handed you know, ostensibly slower guys that that you know
that worked in the middle of the field. That's that's
what he does. That's what the system is. And so
you know, I don't think that you can sit there
and say, well, I love this guy.

Speaker 5 (33:16):
He's a genius. I love what he brings to the table,
and then not like what he brings to the table.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
A couple more texts here five six six nine zero.
I think this came from your phone. Pat Bryant as
the same measurables as the great Jerry Rice. Yeah, last
night you were trying to make the argument that the
Broncos just drafted Jerry Rice.

Speaker 5 (33:31):
So now we did not make that argument. Ever, we
go back to the podcast.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Pretty Nick and I were sitting here like whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 4 (33:38):
I'm pretty sure that was you, so the greatest wide
receiver ever.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
Yeah, we could go back to the podcast. I'm sure
Grant can I can make the audio. Let's go back
to the table.

Speaker 5 (33:47):
I insist I'm throwing a challenge flag right now. I review.
It'll be completely legit.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
Grant, well, not doctor the audio.

Speaker 5 (33:56):
You got some c G I go in here. Don't
see if he gets some vocals? Do you some AI
going on here?

Speaker 3 (34:00):
This is a good one though. Pat Bryan had fifty
four catches last year. Fifty two of them went for
first downs or touchdowns.

Speaker 4 (34:05):
Great, that's it is a huge, right stat And that's
exactly like that's the kind of thing you You wanted
things for bow Nicks to be able to move the chains, Well,
here you go, they got you a chain mover and
now you're upset they got you a chain mover.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
Any hate for RJ. Harvey or the pick will evaporate
the minute he breaks off a thirty or more yard run, which,
by the way, the Broncos were terrible at that last year.
One of the best explosive guys in college foot Yeah,
I think the Broncos country forgets what it's like to
have an explosive back like that in a while.

Speaker 4 (34:32):
You know, Phil was sort of that guy for you know,
for a minute, Phill Lindsay. But again, Phil was like
forty pounds lighter than this guy, you know, thirty pounds
lighter than this guy.

Speaker 5 (34:40):
And so that's the thing, just because r J. Harvey's
five foot eight.

Speaker 4 (34:44):
And Ryan wants to shout out at short kings, but
he's also two hundred and eight pounds. You're the one
that got super defensive about it. I'm fine you. You
were the one that was like, he's not he's not tidy.

Speaker 5 (34:55):
Well, I hate that he's not small. He's just short.
He's built thick.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
With two seas.

Speaker 5 (35:02):
Yeah, with two seas. I know that's how it goes.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
I'm so proud of you. It's it, But I mean
that's the thing that's just bugs because I'm seeing a
h We got the small We had another Julia mcloughamin.

Speaker 5 (35:11):
He's dude.

Speaker 4 (35:12):
This guy out weigh Julia mclossam by twenty five pounds
and he's faster.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
The Saints had a chance to take Shore Sanders. They
did not know it will not take shit doors. Danny Stutzman,
linebacker of Oklahoma. George Yeah, shout out to George Stoyer.
Let's see here. A big takeaway I had from Jones's
interview was when he talked about taking care of his body.
Usually guys don't figure that out till they're older. That's
a really good observation.

Speaker 5 (35:36):
You know.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
I was thinking about that last night because I think
the stat is twenty seven straight starts to close at
his time there at LSU. That's pretty tremendous when you
think about the wear and tear on your body, especially
as the defensive lineman in the SEC. But he he
laid it out perfectly, said, you know, you have to
kind of be a professional about your body.

Speaker 5 (35:56):
We'll play that interview coming up a little bit later.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
I'm glad you pointed that out, though, because that I
thought that was a very a very mature answer.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
And that's another sort of trait we're seeing with all
these guys. If they're not captains, they are all mature
guys that have been in college either several years or
have had that experience of leadership.

Speaker 5 (36:15):
Yeah. Uh, say jentes Man.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
It's interesting because you watch what he did in college,
and he was kind of a big edge rusher, but
that's not really what he's going to be here. Maybe
in goal line situations, you know, he might be somebody
you put there at the edge, but really he's.

Speaker 5 (36:28):
More of a five tech here.

Speaker 4 (36:29):
He's playing more than John Franklin Meyer's role than he
would be playing the Cooper the Benito role.

Speaker 5 (36:34):
And so like the people that I saw last night
throwing the edge out there, you know, that was kind
of a little weird.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
But I love our I love our listeners here listening
to every player interview. At the very least, the Broncos
added a bunch of in the words of Ryan Dows, Dows,
Yeah that's how you had to say it though, right, Yeah, well, yes,
then you don't say dogs.

Speaker 5 (36:55):
I mean you probably do, but I say dogs a
wus you sip your pumpkins spice a lot.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
But well they don't have humpkin spice right now. This
is a sin of adult chain.

Speaker 5 (37:03):
I wouldn't know.

Speaker 4 (37:03):
I get my coffee at Men's not your pants done,
well done. Well, I'm so proud of you of the
way you turn around those those these days.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
Hey, three shots of espresso. My little boys all grown stuff.

Speaker 5 (37:16):
He's grown stuff and he's grown stuff. No, I mean,
like you you.

Speaker 4 (37:23):
I think that with these guys, I don't know that
they're all going to pan out, but they all seem
very well prepared. You listen to Jeanne Baron, what an
impressive young guy in the way that he Franks like, Look,
I've got these goals. I've got this process to get them.
I get up in the mirror, I reiterate this to
myself and I go to work. You listen to uh
Pat Bryant, you know, and he's talking about the you know,

(37:44):
no black, no rock. I got to make sure I
do the little things. You listen to Jones talking about
the little things, taking care of the body, you know,
things like that. And so I think these the guys
that they've drafted this year certainly seemed very prepared, very.

Speaker 5 (37:54):
Goal oriented type of guys.

Speaker 4 (37:56):
And and and very prepared at a young age to
uh to hand responsibilities that maybe some of us in
our middle age haven't figured out.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
The text here on the KA Comma Spirit Health text
line five six six nine zero.

Speaker 5 (38:08):
RJ.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
Harvey is the same size as Aaron Jones. I've seen
that as a comp for him. He said, who everybody
wanted in Denver to begin with. Yeah, I think that's
a good comp. The deres Barwls thing has to wait
a bit. I want to see a little bit of
his usage. But if nothing else, Sean is aware of
that role of the running back. I think RJ. Harvey
can do a little bit more as far as the
running between the tackles. We'll sort of see what the

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game plan is here. But they're not going to have
him on the field for only passing downs. And I
think that's the bigger point here is you can't tip
your hand in the Broncos unfortunately, and I think that
maybe just by force, had to do things a certain
way this last year with the running backs. But I
want to see that change this year where either you

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have you have a dedication to a guy when he
especially if he's running well, or a dedication to an
idea of what the player does officially. That was one
of the great things about when they did have Darren
Sprolls or Reggie Bush or I mean obviously with Alvin Kamara,
but that's in a whole other level. But I'm just saying,
like they had roles for these guys, but it wasn't
so tipped every single time they were in the game that, oh,

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this is what we're gonna be. This is a passing situation.
That guy. Now, the one thing with Rjie Harvey, the
one biggest, the biggest complaint about half of him and
we talked about it a bit last night's pass par
He does need to improve there otherwise he won't see
the field.

Speaker 5 (39:23):
Well yeah, I mean, but you know we've seen that before.

Speaker 4 (39:26):
I mean, Darren Sproles wasn't the world's most magnificent pass protector,
and they still found ways to, uh, you know, to
get that kind of stuff, you know, to get to
work him in there and all that. Reggie Bush was
the world's most prolific past protector, but they still found
roles for him and that kind of stuff.

Speaker 5 (39:40):
And so I think that's that's a part of it.
I think you're gonna find that.

Speaker 4 (39:44):
You know, Sean likes these rotations, he likes these niche backs,
but they you know, they'll find the spot that works
for him and utilize that to maximum effective. So you
go back to look pair Thomas Tavius, Murray darren Sproles,
Reggie Bush, Mark Inger Induced, all different running backs, all
had different kind of roles, but they found ways to
make it all work.

Speaker 12 (40:03):
All right.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
A couple more texts here, five, six, six, niney Zeroly,
we'll take a break. Let me update people on what
just have.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
CJ.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
West, defensive tackle out of Indiana, just went to the
forty nine ers to pick one thirteen against the Broncos
pick one thirty four, So we're twenty or so picks away.
What I appreciate about your station and your analysis is
when somebody has picked that we are going who is
this and how the hell did this person get picked?
You have a way of explaining it. Putting things into context.

(40:29):
Might not have been the way I would go, but
I did not analyze these players the way they did,
and all we can do is see how it plays out.
Thank you for all your work that you guys do
into having the knowledge and explaining these players in depth
that hardly anybody can. Hey, that means a lot, and
you know, certainly something I'm not saying. Different media outlets

(40:50):
or media members have their different ways of approaching it.
Some are a little bit more in the rage bait
click stuff, and that's hey, man, that is a style.
I'm not saying what we do is more right than
what they do. I'm just saying this is how I
like to go about it.

Speaker 13 (41:05):
Is.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
I had a pretty big emotional reaction to the drafting.
Bonis right. I I wanted JJ McCarthy. I'm a person,
I'm a human, I'm a guy.

Speaker 5 (41:13):
That I was.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
I was upset.

Speaker 5 (41:17):
To football.

Speaker 4 (41:18):
Okay, you know, if I'm gonna have to not bring
up how you were saying a Jerry Rice comp to
Pat Bryan, then you're not allowed to bring up that
because that's not actually correctly.

Speaker 5 (41:26):
A video of this anyways, you're writing a dinosaurs.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
But the point of it is is I had some miles,
but it took me like a beat to get over
it and then recognize. Okay, here Sean Payton believes in
this guy. He's betting his legacy on this guy. I'm
gonna give benefit of the doubt because this is our
quarterback now and I can't wait to see how it
plays out. And he was phenomenal last year. He was phenomenal,
And it would have been a miserable experience for me
to spend the entire season talking about how somebody else
I would rather have had than Bonix, because that would

(41:53):
be something that other media members and some Broncos fans
do sometimes they get sophixated on the specific player that
they wanted all along and they cannot let it go.
In that case, I just don't believe in that. I
think that is a better way to cover the team.

Speaker 13 (42:06):
Yah.

Speaker 5 (42:06):
At the end of the day, look, I give you
guys a dirty radio secret.

Speaker 4 (42:09):
Like a lot of people's coverage of sports is predicated
on how can I complain about this thing and turn
it into to a segment?

Speaker 5 (42:15):
And we you and I have never.

Speaker 4 (42:16):
Wanted to do any of that kind of radio ever.
You know, we're here to inform as best we can.
We're here to share you our anecdotes as the best
we can information, as best we can celebrate along with you, guys,
lament along with you guys, that kind of stuff and gals,
And you know, at the end of the day.

Speaker 5 (42:29):
That's that's what it is.

Speaker 4 (42:30):
We're all just dudes and chicks talking ball at the
end of the day and hopefully has some fun. Sports
supposed to be escapism is supposed to be fun. R
So you know, I don't want to stay here and
complain about stuff. I'd rather see the vision and then
if it doesn't work, we can criticize that. I'm not
going to pre criticize something.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
One more text here. I missed the Ryan and beIN duo.
You guys help me help bring up my spirits during COVID.
Thank you. Yeah, we obviously I think that that was
a time for everybody that was struggle, certainly for multitude reasons,
but that was you know, sports is, as you said,
escapism get undy to sort of unite all of us.

Speaker 5 (43:02):
We had a lot of fun doing doing some of
those shows.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
Absolutely.

Speaker 5 (43:05):
So the sweatpants days.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
Well no you don't because you still wear sweatpants every
single day to work. So in honor of the sweatpants,
is that what it is you're honoring COVID. I'm honoring
a time.

Speaker 5 (43:16):
In our life.

Speaker 4 (43:17):
But I could do this every single day. Look at you,
You're so proud of yourself. You thought you would be
so clever.

Speaker 5 (43:22):
I'm trying to keep a straight face that I can't.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
Guys, I'm in sweatpants are good today? Remember twenty twenty I.

Speaker 5 (43:31):
Wore actual pant we were matching brown, but I bet
the brown pants memo. Today you got khakis?

Speaker 3 (43:36):
Oh yeah, I got Kaki. I shop in the JC
Penny sections Arizona Gene Company. These are expressed. How dare
you anyways? Rick Lots going to join us here at
the top of the hour. We got to take quick break.

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Speaker 5 (44:48):
Running back Woody Marks a usc is h That's very.

Speaker 4 (44:53):
Interesting to me going before a Damian Martinez. You know,
those kind of running backs.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
Seem drafted by the Texans.

Speaker 5 (44:59):
They must have saw something I really liked.

Speaker 4 (45:00):
The Colts were up and they traded back with the
la Rams up ten spots there.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
Maybe for sure, I don't think so we'll find out.
I he just does not fit the Sean McVay Mold
McVeigh likes quarterbacks that get it out quick and have
a big arm, and those are the two biggest criticisms
of Shid or Sanders.

Speaker 5 (45:18):
So you know, I don't believe that'd be the pick.
But the you know, I've been wrong before, I'll be
wrong again.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
I came up ten spots, so something to monitor there.

Speaker 5 (45:27):
I certainly liked somebody.

Speaker 4 (45:28):
I love this text here on the ka Kamas spirit
health text line did confused at Benjamin Albright talk himself
to him to himself in the mirror.

Speaker 5 (45:35):
The I'm not confused at all.

Speaker 4 (45:37):
I am absolutely I'm very proud of who I am.
In fact, I thought about like maybe getting a flag
to like wave.

Speaker 5 (45:44):
About how proud mccolors would be.

Speaker 4 (45:46):
Well, I don't want to limit it to anyone, so
maybe like just a corny coopea a rainbow rainbow if.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
You will have colors, that's good, that's good.

Speaker 4 (45:52):
Yeah, I think you should be proud of and just
wave that that flag on how proud I am. Yes,
Shannon's not gonna I'm trying to make him break. It
won't work well because he has another level. Yeah, you
think I've seen every joke. Know to man, you can't
make me. He's like the Lord and Michaels of this.
He's like, you can't make me crack.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
I'd ask him what he thinks of that, But again,
FCC still listens to these things. How long is that banned?

Speaker 4 (46:15):
Three years?

Speaker 5 (46:17):
Lin of mare H.

Speaker 3 (46:18):
This is why I used to love BCT with you
guys together. That was a hell of a good show.
Also fun to talk with you guys live. That's Lance.

Speaker 5 (46:24):
Thank you, Lance, appreciate you.

Speaker 13 (46:25):
Bro. Uh.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
Let's see here, Ben Ryan. Can we get Gunner Helm
in the fourth? I mean that would be great. I
mean he's he's still out there, Jock weis hunter from
Auburn another running back on off the board.

Speaker 5 (46:37):
Rams and aubur running backs. What are the odds?

Speaker 3 (46:39):
Yeah, the trade of ten picks for an Auburn running back. Oh,
there you go the Trey Morris.

Speaker 4 (46:43):
Guys a few years ago there will Yeah, yeah, you
know Helm, I think you might uh, I think you
might have. You might not have to like move around
for him. I think he's gonna go a little later
than people think. I think we're I don't want to
say we're overestimating him here, but there's an attachment.

Speaker 5 (46:59):
To him here. Maybe we're a little worried he might
go a little earlier than he might. We'll see. I
think he might be.

Speaker 4 (47:04):
I think he might have been playing. I think they're
either going to double dip on the running back or
you know, at a veteran, because you got to get
one more voice in that room. I'd like to see
the veteran to be honest with you, and then you know,
we got two picks today, but I think they want
to come away with three, so I wouldn't be surprised
to see if they move back off one of those
picks a little bit, try to multiply.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
The guys who prank to Chador were from Ole Miss Shaker. Yeah,
I did see that video surfacing. I'm a chance to
watch it, but that was so gross.

Speaker 5 (47:30):
That was gross, man, Like, what are we what are
we doing there? Whatever?

Speaker 4 (47:34):
You think this guy's trying to live out his dream.
And even if you don't like him, you don't like
him personally, you think he's whatever like that, that's that's
a little that's overboard, man, that's crossing the line. You know,
calling somebody you know, pretending to be a GM and
you know, I'm trying to think of a situation for like,
for like somebody at home. It'd be like somebody calling
you talking about the publisher's clearing house or whatever. They
may just keep waiting, you know, and hanging up on

(47:55):
you know, if you think you won the lot funny
or whatever, you.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
Know, and that kind of stuff funny, not funny at all.
On any chance they add Hall or Dobbins. So yeah,
briis Hall.

Speaker 5 (48:04):
I don't think they're going to trade assets.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
Yeah, that would be the thing is you really don't.
I mean again, if you split some picks, like you say,
you split this fourth round, or you move back a
little bit, and you give yourself because you're not giving
up anything more than probably a sixth maybe a seventh
for Brice Hall based on what his productivity has been
the last two years coming off injury.

Speaker 5 (48:22):
I just can't imagine that.

Speaker 3 (48:23):
JK. Dobbins obviously a free agent. It makes sense for
guys like JK Dobbins. You mentioned Nick Chubb last night
as an example. It's the reason why these guys are
still out there, first of all, and then second, you
wait till after the draft if you're any of these players,
because there's no reason to sign right before the draft,
and teams don't want to do it either because they
want to see if the guy that they want and
falls into their lap.

Speaker 4 (48:43):
Yeah, both of you maximize your leverage point by waiting
till after the draft and going from there. And I
think I would not be surprised if a Dobbins or
a Chubb were ultimately signed on a very low cost
deal to add a veteran voice to.

Speaker 3 (48:54):
This room and make a lot of sense. Billy Bowman,
junior safety at Oklahoma. Yea, and they're Oklahoma player. This
the guy people thought could have gone it earlier than that.

Speaker 5 (49:01):
Tae. That's interesting.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
It's a good pick there. Well, they have needed safety
No Justin Simmons. So that's out pick one eighteen the
Broncos selecting at one thirty four. When we come back,
Rick Lewis is gonna sit down with us. We'll get
his thoughts on what the Broncos have done so far,
what he'd like to see them accomplish today. We are
often rolling here on a Saturday morning. We're gonna be
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different Broncs.

Speaker 5 (50:44):
A freaking wow. Look at Grant. Okay, that's how we're
going to open the show. Grand you know what was happening? Yeah,
what you signed up for here U If you guys
have done a great job, by the way, appreciate you
man the coverage on this and the this is a
marathon session.

Speaker 4 (51:02):
Say it a little louder. Dave Temper's right behind you.
Just say that a little louder, a little more nonchalant.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
We were just.

Speaker 5 (51:07):
Talking about it. But you guys have just sounded great.
You guys are right on top of everything. This whole
coole crew has done a great job.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
I appreciated.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Man.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
Well, you've been part of it obviously. We've had you
on after every pick, and now you're gonna hang out
with us for a couple hours. We're gonna have a
Broncos pick ostensibly, but it's not going to be gunner Helm,
as he just was selected by the Tennessee Titans. No, man,
I mean they're getting a good one there.

Speaker 4 (51:31):
I texted Dave about it and he was pretty surprised
that the Tennessee had come up that early for him.
But good for gunner Helm and good for him for
for realizing his NFL dream, and congratulations to him and
his family.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
Yeah, it's a just bummer for us. Also, the cam
Scattaboo dream ended early today the New York Giants selected him.

Speaker 5 (51:49):
What did this happen?

Speaker 4 (51:51):
You were over there yucking this when your entourage came
in and you were surrounded we all realized we were
the midst of celebrity.

Speaker 5 (51:59):
Yeah, out take the spotlight off. Rig Lewis third pick
of the fourth round. All right, well, congratulations to Cam.
I was hoping the Broncos would get him. I had
a feeling he would go early this round. They're getting
a good football player. Now, that's a guy I've spent
a lot of time watching him play. He's a guy
that can will you to victory. He did that seemingly

(52:20):
almost every game with Arizona State. They got a good
one and uh, she said, the Giants got him. Cam
Scout's got him. Okay, yeah, he's will you the victory
the same way I will. This guy at a wanting
a different job. Every time he partners up with me, I've.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
Lost a lot of hair. That's the same here, I
let you say that.

Speaker 5 (52:39):
Is that why you want to let me sit? Okay,
we'll see smell.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
Uh David Walker edge at of Central Arkansas going to
uh the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

Speaker 5 (52:53):
Hopefully we'll get some highlights on the TV.

Speaker 4 (52:55):
Because for those of you who don't know the Conway
and Conway Arkansas, the Central Arkansas football field is this
purple and white football field It is the weirdest thing
about It's almost like the Eastern Washington the blood red,
you know, the boison, the blue. This is purple and
gray football field and it's fascinating to Is that where
you played? No, no, no, no no, That's where I
watched other people play. That's where at microvel play. Okay,

(53:16):
the head coach of Florida State, Florida State.

Speaker 3 (53:18):
Yeah, Lathan Ransom safety at Ohio States and the Ohio
State player going here at one twenty two to the
Carolina Panthers. Actually like Ransom quite a bit, but the
Broncos were not going to be in the market for safety,
so nothing there. Again. Bummer that gunner Helm tight end
out of Texas went at one twenty, but there's still
plenty of good tight ends. Left and Driver are about
eleven picks away from the Broncos selection at one thirty four,

(53:39):
assuming they stay there. Five six six nine zeros are
Kae Comma Spirit health text line if you want to
interact with us, all right, Rick, before we get back
to the text line here, I mean, what do you think, man?
What do we think they've done so far? How are
you feeling about it?

Speaker 5 (53:54):
I feel good about it. Because I trust that Sean
and George Peyton know what they're doing. And I see
Broncos Country, you know, they're they're pretty skeptical about what's
happened here so far. They you know, the guys they
picked aren't sexy picks necessarily, and when it comes to
the NFL Draft, you're casual fan, they want the sexy picks,

(54:18):
and the Broncos haven't gone that direction. It's Sean Payton
building his football team, and it's the Sean Payton brand
that he's building. All of these guys seem to have
one thing in common, and that's they're all tough nosed,
hard edge football players, and those are the kind of
guys he likes, and those are the kind of guys
just about everybody likes, really. And you know, he's from

(54:41):
the Bill Parcells school, which we all know, and that's
the kind of team Bill Parcells built during his heyday.
So trust the process with these guys. I do hope
they pick up a running back today at fourth round
would be good. There's still a lot of good running
backs out there, even with Scataboo off the board. That's

(55:01):
what I'm looking for today here early in the fourth round.
I think it's a possibility.

Speaker 4 (55:06):
I think they they've got two picks today, I'm hoping
they multiply that out to three. I think they'd like
to have one extra one. You know, you still need
the tight end position. You know, we talked about Gunnerhill
and go to the tight ends Titan. Excuse me, you
need an offensive lineman still. I think, you know, maybe Nash.

Speaker 5 (55:21):
Jones out of Texas State.

Speaker 4 (55:22):
Just want to keep your eye on there. That might
be more of a priority. UDF a kind of guy.
And we'll, you know, we'll see how this thing goes.
Still got a Rondi gasd in the second out there,
somebody that George Peyton who worked with his father Ronde
Gasden there in Miami. Uh, might be might be a
possibility there at the tight end.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
Jack Sawyer, Ohio State Edge just went to the Steeler.
It's a very Steelers pick. Yeah, he's a perfect for
that team right as a very Steelers pick. So a
good pick there. A couple of Ohio State players coming
off the board. You guys are so interesting to listen
to it. Can I imagine the amount of research that
was done for this draft. You are appreciated in love
by many love the humor and regular talk too. That

(56:00):
from Dave Tepper. Oh no, sorry, lawyer Laurie, Thank you, Laurie.
Appreciate that, Dave. Also, if you feel free to text
in on texting on textline grade, although he probablys me like,
I'm still staring at BIG's bald spot.

Speaker 5 (56:10):
Yeah, the sun coming offense like.

Speaker 4 (56:14):
A comment flying across the area right now.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
Just I bummed about missing on ransome. That one just
came in this draft has me confused. How are these
picks helping bon NICKX? Well, honestly, they're all helping Bonix,
whether it's on defense or on the offense side.

Speaker 4 (56:30):
Explosive running back and a wide receiver that doesn't drop anything.

Speaker 5 (56:33):
How is that not helping Bonick? Right?

Speaker 4 (56:34):
And even improving the defense, scoring fewer points your opponents
scoring fewer points obviously helps out the offense too.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
So really, all these picks are helping out bon Nicks.
I've seen that sentiment Rick out on Twitter as well.
That well, Traveon Henderson or whatever other wide receiver that
Matthew Golden in the first round, that would have been
really helping bon Nicks versus getting a cornerback.

Speaker 5 (56:59):
Yeah, I get it too. And I totally understand that
because this team's been lacking weapons on the offensive side
of the ball for so long, and we all thought
that the Broncos were going to go running back in
round one or wide receiver, and they threw us a
little curveball. But they got a heck of a good
football player. This is the guy, the guy that took
in the first round baron. A lot of guys had

(57:20):
him going top ten, top twelve. So when he was
there at twenty, they went best available player, and he's
going to be a really good football player for this team.
But I get it. It's it's just not sexy. We
didn't even pay attention to him because I think we
all assumed the Broncos would go offense and we assumed
he'd be off the board by that. So when that happened,

(57:40):
we were all pretty surprised by it. But they got
a good football player. They went and got their running
back in the second round. Is he Traveon Henderson, No,
I'm Murray and Hampton. No, it might be Murraice Jones Drew.

Speaker 4 (57:52):
He built the same, he's kind of got the same
r you know, running that might a little faster than
than MJD was.

Speaker 5 (57:56):
I agree. People will talk about.

Speaker 3 (57:58):
You know, RJ.

Speaker 5 (57:59):
Harvey and I'm banging the table to correct the record here.
He's short.

Speaker 4 (58:02):
He is not small, he's but he's two away. He's
he's like a he's built like a bowling ball.

Speaker 5 (58:07):
And I like, I like short running backs that are
thick like that because they can hide behind those big
linemen to have to get low and tackle. One cut
and they're gone. Yeah, tough to get low.

Speaker 4 (58:15):
And tackle to us talking Nick Ferguson about that yesterday,
my man, how much would you agon eyes about having
to try.

Speaker 5 (58:19):
To get low on that guy? And what did Nick say?
Did he backed down? He was like, my knees er
too already. You don't want to don't want this.

Speaker 3 (58:26):
But on the koa common spirit health text line. That's
some broadcast team You've got there, a flannel clad vegan,
a confused boy band cast off, and a diaper clad
drummer and has to be an amazing stage show like
a train wreck and a blizzard.

Speaker 5 (58:41):
Thank you Keith, Yeah, thank you Grant for playing that.
I had to wear the diaper? Would do it?

Speaker 3 (58:46):
There it is again?

Speaker 5 (58:47):
Yeah, it'll live forever.

Speaker 3 (58:49):
Speaking of Jack Sawyer, here's a little bit more about
the edge rusher that the Pittsburgh Steelers just got, Jack.

Speaker 14 (58:57):
Sawyer, edge Ohio. A stand up six foot four, two
hundred and sixty pounds.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
By Kanda Warren looking to throw tosses back to the left,
intercepted by Jack Sawyer. Jack Sawyer bring it back into
the ten and he has tackled to the ten yard
line defensive end Jack Sawyer.

Speaker 14 (59:13):
Sawyer could have entered the NFL Draft a year ago,
but instead stayed in Columbus and led the Buckeyes to
the National championship, including a sack, scoop and score in
a win over Texas that highlighted everything he.

Speaker 3 (59:26):
Can bring to the pro game.

Speaker 14 (59:27):
Sawyer's game is more about power than speed and does
have the athleticism to play multiple positions in a defensive
front seven.

Speaker 5 (59:34):
He is an elite when it comes to getting.

Speaker 14 (59:36):
After the quarterback, but always finds himself around the football.

Speaker 3 (59:42):
I'll tell you what, man, the Steelers, the Ravens, the Eagles,
your Lions recently, even there's just a type of player
that they always tend to add. And that's that's very
evident there with Jack Sawyer, who is now off the board.
We are at pick number one twenty four. Just went

(01:00:02):
Baron Sorel out of Texas. Another Texas player going off
the board, another edge going off the board. Of those
three edges in the last four picks, the Chargers are
on the clock at one twenty five. Broncos selecting at
one thirty four. We'll go over some best available here
in just a little bit. But again five six, six,
nine zero. If you want to interact with us asking

(01:00:23):
about Bassa out of Oregon here, I mean they could
go linebacker. I don't know. I think it might be
a little early in the fourth round to take him,
but that one would be a good pick. I know
you're a big fan Ben, Yeah, I like him a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:00:34):
I don't know that I would as there sits right now.
I don't know that that would be a priority for me.
But if they have the opportunity, they multiply picks, and
they got the opportunity for yeah, I'd be all four.
He's he's an athletic linebacker. I'd love to have him here.
Per him up there. Obviously with our new inside linebacker
Dreg Greenlaw.

Speaker 5 (01:00:50):
You know, Ryan, to your point, having grown up in
the Rust Belt, there is a certain type of person
that lives there, and it's your blue collar, lunch pale
type people. And you know, watching the draft from Green Bay,
you know, those are my people, the same type of
person and their football teams that's how they've been for

(01:01:13):
a long time. Chicago Bears, Green Bay Packers, Lions, Pittsburgh Steelers.
Those are your blue collar football players playing in a
blue collar city. And I love what Dan Campbell's done.
He's building that team based on his personality. Really, it's
they all reflect your coach's personality, and he's that guy.

(01:01:34):
So it has been fun to watch.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
This is what I get that hard. You maybe a
good running back, but he isn't a three down back.
We just sort of talked about this in the last hour, Ben,
that's not what the Broncos are looking to draft. And honestly,
if they're looking for a three down back, Caleb Johnson
was sitting right there out of Iowa. That had been
the closest to a three down back you could have drafted.
And they got kind of crushed through a lot of
the national media, specifically mil Kuiper for the passing on

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Caleb Johnson, who going to Steelers, by the way, and
taking r. J.

Speaker 5 (01:02:02):
Harvey.

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
But the thing is is you're looking for a role,
you're looking for a certain style, and the things that r. J.
Harvey does, Cale Johnson cannot do.

Speaker 5 (01:02:10):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
So if you're thinking, I need a guy that has
explosion to speed, one of the fastest running backs in
this draft, you got him. Cale Johnson isn't that guy.
And again he's great at what he does. But you
didn't need a three down back there.

Speaker 4 (01:02:21):
They felt like they need explosive plays. They went got
an explosive playmaker.

Speaker 5 (01:02:25):
And that's the thing.

Speaker 4 (01:02:25):
I mean, Sean Payton's always had a rotation at the
running backs. I mean even when kamaraw was there, they
still had a bit of rotation.

Speaker 5 (01:02:31):
You know, that's what he did.

Speaker 4 (01:02:32):
He had Mark Angram and Latavious Murray, Pierre Thomas and
Darren Sprolls and.

Speaker 5 (01:02:35):
Reggie Bush and Douce Me.

Speaker 4 (01:02:37):
They rotated all these guys through and and you know
that's what Sean Payton does.

Speaker 5 (01:02:41):
I think we can all agree they need more explosive
players on the offensive side of the ball, and RJ.
Harvey is that guy. You know, it's been lacking for
so long, and that's one thing that Bow Knicks really
would benefit from that. As far as three down backs,
they still have Andrew Guestimy, is he going to be

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the guy this year? You know when they when they
closed the season and he wasn't in there getting snaps,
I thought maybe it said a little something about what
they thought about him. He's only twenty one years old,
so he still has an upside to him. But I'm
kind of wondering how they how they're looking at him.
Dylan Sampson finally got to go here to the Cleveland Browns.
Oh okay, another one off the board.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
Yeah, And there was another one we talked about right
there at the Broncos pick sixty that we said has
another running back that they could be looking at if
they decided to, they're going that route, and they obviously did.
They went with RJ.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
Harvey.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
Listen, I like RJ Harvey a lot.

Speaker 5 (01:03:35):
I mean I really did.

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
I mean, if I liked a lot, he was one
of my one of my favorites.

Speaker 4 (01:03:39):
Yeah, if we were if we were going into day
two and saying you missed out on quinnch on Junk Kids,
and you miss missed out on Trayvon Henderson, he would
have been in the next group.

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
I think he's very clear. In the next group, when
we were sitting here with Dave and talking about the
options there as they traded back twice, we brought up RJ.

Speaker 5 (01:03:56):
Harvey.

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
I said Caleb Johnson at that point was the highest
graded running back there because he had a tremendous year
at Iowa. I mean, he's a sledgehammer. But again, that's
not what you wanted because you just brought it up
Arodric Estimy. This is clearly a pick Rick, as far
as I'm concerned, taking r J. Harvey is telling us,
at least in this moment, things can change. In this moment,
Audric Estimate is going to have a role this year.

Speaker 5 (01:04:19):
That's what it looks like to me as well. You
know a guy Devin Neil out of Kansas, like you,
guy that some people are surprised he's fallen this far.
I thought the Broncos would take a good look at him.
He's got a lot of miles on him. He's what
three straight one thousand yard seasons, and maybe that's why
he's dropped a bit, because you know, he's lost some

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of the tread on those wheels. If the Broncos took
him here. I'd be fine with that. All right.

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
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Speaker 5 (01:05:52):
Coverage by Riley Moss here on the near sideline. That's tight.
That's like fat guy in a little coat tight is Farley.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
Yeah, bad guy and a little.

Speaker 5 (01:06:05):
Bad guy and little girl. That's how tight it was.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
That's the work.

Speaker 5 (01:06:15):
Wait, go Grant. That's the first time I've heard the
playback of that.

Speaker 12 (01:06:19):
That's so great.

Speaker 5 (01:06:20):
What's funny about that is Dave had zero reaction to that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:06:23):
I know, Like I was listening, there is nothing and
I was like, that's fact. That's a classic bit like nothing.
Normally he would at least look at me and like
you look nothing, No reacty.

Speaker 4 (01:06:33):
This is the kind of stuff when I get these
from him, Like when I try something and he just
like looks at me like you're an idiot.

Speaker 3 (01:06:39):
That was That was great.

Speaker 5 (01:06:40):
That doesn't it? Rick, It hurts. We put all that
effort in. Yeah, man, it does hurt. Even hurts today
a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:06:46):
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Day three of the toy twenty five NFL Draft, the
Broncos selecting currently at pick one point thirty four. Jalen Lane,
why Virginia Tech just went off the board. To the commanders,
to Ben's commanders, I like that pick a lot like
Jyalen Lane, Jaylen Travis from Iowa State an offense tackle, yes,

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one twenty seven to the Colts. So not Schador Sanders said,
I know, I'm just saying we're on Schnore Sanders watch,
and the Colts are a team that have been discussed
as a possibility. So that's why everybody was bracing on
Twitter and it didn't end up happening. But Dylan Sampson,
as you mentioned, Tennessee running back, he goes to the

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Cleveland Browns, who continue to add talent on the offensive
side of the ball. We got the Ravens here pick
one twenty nine, the Eagles at one thirty, the Saints
one thirty one, Bears one thirty two, Chiefs one thirty three,
and then the Broncos at one thirty four. Could go
a lot of different directions here that I'll start with you.
And there are some players that you're keeping an eye

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on in this range.

Speaker 4 (01:07:53):
Well, I feel like that this could be, uh, you know,
a tight end range, could be trade back range again,
if you want a multiply picks today, this is the
pick to move.

Speaker 5 (01:08:01):
Back off of.

Speaker 4 (01:08:03):
You know, some of the guys that we have associated
with the Broncos probably going to be available a little
bit later than this. The Gunner, I mean that the
gunner help excuse me, the ironic Gaston's of the world,
the Nash Jones of the world.

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
Those guys be available a little bit later.

Speaker 4 (01:08:14):
So you know, if you were going to move back,
this would be the opportunity to move back.

Speaker 5 (01:08:18):
At this point in time.

Speaker 4 (01:08:20):
There are a few players out there on the running
back side of the house if you wanted to double
dip Damian Martinez, I belief still out there. You know,
you've got a few players there. As I'm looking at
your your screen, gun I don't you know Mbo.

Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
I like Mbo a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:08:33):
If you were if you were looking at somebody that
might be might be somebody. Look at the Getton's the
running back still there, Embow, the offensive guards still there.

Speaker 3 (01:08:39):
So there's there's a Royals of course still there.

Speaker 4 (01:08:40):
There's there's some some guys there that that have had
tangential association. I think that you know that that makes
some sense there if you do.

Speaker 3 (01:08:47):
Want to make that PICKO to me, I mean, if
you're looking to upgrade the center position he's out of Purdue,
that that would be a pretty fantastic pick there for
the Broncos. Once again, this might be a spot rick
where you you decide to split the pick if there's
several players on your board that you like. As we
saw in round two the Broncos trading back twice. They
had several players, and I loved the point that out
last night they said there weren't a lot of teams

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in that range that we're going to be taking running backs,
so they felt like they were in a good spot
to do that to multiply picks, which is again just
one of those deals where it's like sometimes you take
a player, like if for some reason, I don't know,
Jude barn falls in your lap and you thought he
was going ten picks before where you're at, you just
go ahead and take him instead of trade back and
some other examples. You play the board correctly and you
can add draft capital, and that's what the Broncos have done.

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So I wouldn't be surprised at one point thirty four
here if the Broncos decided to split this pick, But
are their position groups that you're specifically looking at, You.

Speaker 5 (01:09:39):
Know, wide receiver. I would wouldn't mind if they took
another wide receiver, A really good ones here, A playmaker
Isaiah Bond, a guy who can oh, I.

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
Don't know, off field stuff, he and you.

Speaker 5 (01:09:52):
Know they normally don't go that direction, right, But man,
the guy can take the top off defense right.

Speaker 3 (01:09:58):
No, the talent in the field is identifiable, there's no
doubt about that. It's just the more recent allegations that
are out there that makes you feel like he's gonna slip.

Speaker 4 (01:10:07):
Local.

Speaker 5 (01:10:08):
Hey, hey, here we go. Come on, man, here we go.
You haven't heard you talk about him yet.

Speaker 4 (01:10:13):
Well, I try to slow roll the whole CSU stuff
because I don't want to.

Speaker 5 (01:10:17):
You go ahead, you have permission. I think Tory Horton's special.

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
Now, he got hurt last year and a lot of
people point that, but when he was on the field,
he was just an absolute difference maker. And what you
want to see is dominance at the college level when
these guys get a chance to play, and they were
at another level with him on the field. And so
the fact that he's here on day three, when I
think there were some out there that thought he would
go as early as Day two. It would feel like

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a steel pick. That'd be two wide receivers in a
draft with the Broncos said they really liked that room already,
which would be a little bit of an interesting move.
I think alik Ao Mainer would be kind of interesting
here as well. Out of Stanford. He torched the Buffaloes
a couple of years ago for almost three hundred yards
and two touchdowns three touchdowns in that game versus Stanford,

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So that'd be a that's a big body receiver, very explosive.
I'm a little surprised he's still out there, but yeah,
Tory Horns, My dude like absolutely be flipping out if
that was the pick.

Speaker 4 (01:11:12):
I don't know if you guys have been watching a
Quinn Yours draft party or whatever. Quinn of course hasn't
been drafted yet either Quin Yours.

Speaker 13 (01:11:17):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:11:17):
And he has absolutely committed genocide on the animal king.

Speaker 5 (01:11:21):
If you look at the background there, Uh, what amuse?
That guy has killed an animal every minute?

Speaker 4 (01:11:30):
Look at the backs like a sponsorship or something like that,
spent a single hit it fitting the herd on the animal, Like,
my god, man, you know if you get like a lion.
It's like the lion king in there, like, yeah, somebody's
singing a weave away pans across the background there. It's
just you know, yeah, are we surprised. I mean, we'd

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all the talk about Shador, but quin yours hadn't been
drafted either, and there were people talking about him a
couple of years of pential number one pick.

Speaker 5 (01:11:57):
Uh you know at some point.

Speaker 3 (01:11:59):
All right, So Malakai Moore Safty from Alabama just went
off the board of the Jets. Teddy Buchanan at linebacker
to cal went at one twenty nine to the Ravens.
So we are three picks away from the Broncos, Saints, Bears, Chiefs.

Speaker 5 (01:12:12):
Yeah, we'll see. We'll see if they make the pick.

Speaker 4 (01:12:14):
The Broncos course picking right in front of the Raiders
there as well. That named as a Chador Sanders target.
Is there any place you want to see him go?
Because see, I'm of the opinion with the Raiders and
from people that I've talked to that Will Howard is
actually the quarterback, Chip Kelly the offensive coordinator, though it
wants to reunite with his guy Will Howard, and that
may be the schism there. Of course, Tom Brady mentored
Shador Sanders. You know, is there any place you want

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to see him going?

Speaker 5 (01:12:37):
It isn't that surprising that how many times have the
Raiders passed on them already? Eight times? Right, I don't
think that's going to happen. I think you could safely
say they're not going to go that direction. I don't
want him in the AFC West for some reason. I
just don't. I don't still want to see if this guy.
He's got talent. We know that, we know he can play,

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and given the opportunity, you know, he could be one
of those surprises like Dak Prescott kind of guy. Right,
Dak Prescott was a fourth round draft picky. He was
going to be a backup.

Speaker 4 (01:13:07):
He had a DUI that was that was what knocked
him down there at the end. Though he had a
DUI right before the draft and that knocked him down
a little bit.

Speaker 5 (01:13:13):
So what if Senor doesn't even get drafted, Well, they'd
be free to sign with anybody wants. That's what I'm thinking.
This could be better for him.

Speaker 3 (01:13:20):
Yeah, you know, he brought that up as an option
last last night.

Speaker 4 (01:13:23):
You get to a certain point, all of a sudden,
you don't want to be drafted because you want your options,
so you know.

Speaker 5 (01:13:27):
I that would be the thing.

Speaker 4 (01:13:29):
I think if you if you get past the fourth
fifth round and nobody's drafted you, I think you call
everybody tol him, don't draft me if you want me,
you know, as a free agent, I'll come work out.

Speaker 3 (01:13:36):
We'll figure it out from there.

Speaker 5 (01:13:37):
They may be doing that already. Yeah, you know, his
people may already made those calls and say, hey, just
don't draft him, and could he go back and play
another year? I know the NC double A says he can't.
But how much power does the NC double A have anymore?
At this point?

Speaker 4 (01:13:53):
You could just say I don't recognize the authority the
n C double like everybody else does.

Speaker 5 (01:13:56):
Nice I don't. I don't know the rule are as.

Speaker 4 (01:14:00):
I understand them that he would not because he not
he didn't hire an agent officially, so that that yeah, technically,
I mean there's a there's another lady there for that
does the contract negotiations for that group, but he hasn't
hired an agent officially, so you know, I don't know.
Maybe maybe there's some possibility would would they have to
unretire his number at.

Speaker 5 (01:14:19):
That point, or uh, he have to give permission to
unretire the number number to go back to number two.

Speaker 4 (01:14:26):
Yeah, his number up of the rafters me this morning,
by the way, was so mean right before the draft.

Speaker 5 (01:14:33):
What they did there with that number certainly didn't help it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:36):
No, and that's what so Ben sent me. Somebody did
a reverse of the like veiling of the number. Yeah,
they were covering the back, cover it back up.

Speaker 12 (01:14:45):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:14:46):
Yeah, it's been a just a total disaster. I wonder
what he's doing today. I don't know, but we haveing
prank Coles. That was horrible. That was terrible. Kids from
old miss Yeah, we get the we have the video.
How did the kid get the number?

Speaker 4 (01:15:02):
My guess is either through Lane Kiffin or Jackson Dart
down there. That seems to be the only way that
I would think, because there's a new number. He had
a new number. So unless somebody just happened to know
somebody and you know that kind of thing. But yeah,
he had a new he switched numbers recently, you know.
To narrow down the thing on that.

Speaker 5 (01:15:19):
Apparently he had a separate phone to get the NFL
crawl right.

Speaker 3 (01:15:24):
Quincy Riley Louisville cornerback going to the Saints. So Het,
the Bears and the Chiefs up next, one thirty two
to one thirty three, Like this on the KWA Common
Spirit Health text line the quinn Ewer's Bass Pro Shop.
It's good, it's really good. Yeah, it's not actually his house.
It's a billionaire's house he's at.

Speaker 4 (01:15:43):
Okay, well what then that that makes it because I'm like, man,
I don't like I'm looking back there and they have
killed every like this is like the scene from uh,
I don't have you've ever seen the show upload, but
the guy who played this half smoking man, yes, from
the X Files. He plays his pillion there guy, he
only eats like a d dried species or whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:15:57):
The underrated show. Yeah, it's a really good show.

Speaker 3 (01:16:00):
At you culture once in a while Cultured apparelium Bo
has some anger issues with coaching. Heard that the other day.
I got into the coach and throw a weight at him.

Speaker 5 (01:16:10):
So you say, em bode up on him.

Speaker 3 (01:16:14):
Yeah, it's not it's not it.

Speaker 5 (01:16:16):
I'll you on the back. Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:16:17):
I know that's somebody somebody, somebody needed to help in there.
I want Sanders in Pittsburgh. I think they haven't drafted
him yet because they know no one else will. Now,
I mean, there might be something to that. I mean,
we're going to we're getting into the fifth round here
pretty soon. And at that point, you're right, maybe we
are having a conversation about him telling teams I don't
want to I mean, he was. They were pretty open

(01:16:38):
about that early in the process. We only want to
go to these teams or whatever. Now you're surprised that,
you know, the teams aren't doing that.

Speaker 5 (01:16:44):
Hey, look it didn't really work out.

Speaker 4 (01:16:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:16:47):
Yeah, I saw a montage earlier this morning of all
of the demands they've made over the last year where
he was going to go where he's not going to go,
and man, it's just such a bad look looking back
on it, especially a bad look. He made what six
seven million dollars at CU last year, Yeah, which is
more than he would make his entire four year contract

(01:17:09):
in the NFL now well at this point, but he's
not an issue for that family either way.

Speaker 3 (01:17:12):
And then on top of that, he made you know,
I mean, he made his own money.

Speaker 4 (01:17:15):
But you can't show up the interviews down there in
New Orleans talking about, Hey, I'm gonna set the I'm
gonna bring the rap scene back down here with master
P while you got you got off of your coaches
sitting here talking.

Speaker 5 (01:17:25):
I just want you to diagram a play bro.

Speaker 3 (01:17:27):
I don't care about you know, don't. I don't care
about your your rap career.

Speaker 5 (01:17:30):
So all of that stuff that we heard the last
couple of weeks, it looks like it was Legit looks
like it was true. It was uh And there's you know,
I know some of the coaches that gave some of
those some of those quotes out and stuff like that,
and you know, there are there's definitely a sense of
of sort of animosity that you know, who is this
kid to come in here with this kind of entitlement.

Speaker 4 (01:17:50):
You haven't done anything in the league yet. What are
you talking about your brand? You know and all that
kind of stuff when we're you're we're here to win
football games, and you know your success and your ability
to build that brand.

Speaker 3 (01:17:59):
Hinge on that Bears. Just take linebacker Ruben Hiplyte one
thirty two.

Speaker 1 (01:18:04):
There.

Speaker 3 (01:18:06):
I think he's out of Maryland if I remember correctly,
But just a linebacker going off the board. Yeap Maryland
one thirty two. Chiefs won thirty three in the Broncos
that won thirty four. So we're flying through Day three
of the NFL Draft. You want to call you shot
here Benjamin.

Speaker 4 (01:18:21):
On Kansas City.

Speaker 3 (01:18:23):
Well, I mean they've they've addressed a lot of the
stuff that I thought they need to address.

Speaker 4 (01:18:26):
Wouldn't be surprised to see them maybe grab a receiver here,
but they've already they went out and got the offensive
lineman already.

Speaker 5 (01:18:35):
I would hate that they get Jalen roll Oils. Yeah,
I just say that it feels like a fit.

Speaker 13 (01:18:38):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:18:38):
So somebody said and after the catch, guy that can
play out of the slot, or Tory Horton for Andy
Reid right now and any read I'll tell you, you know,
people think he likes speed receivers. He does, but he
looks smart receivers that you have to be smart to
run that offense. And he likes guys that are that
are very football football savvy, football intelligence. So wouldn't be
surprised to see if that were the case there. You know,
maybe Spags talks him into a defensive player.

Speaker 3 (01:19:00):
You know that there could be could be some of
that going on to I love this tweet watch Chiefs
to the unthinkable, Like there's no, they're not taking shure.
I know we're on sure, right, we're on watch.

Speaker 5 (01:19:10):
Yeah, but no Andy Reeves and I've been like, well,
hold on, I mean if anybody I don't see it,
I really don't see them, man, that that's what.

Speaker 3 (01:19:22):
But what you know, hey, wait, wait to own like
your mentor Tom Brady didn't want you, your local your
local Broncos didn't want you, I'll bring you in control
them both at the same time. I mean, even when
it's worth The Patriots did this kind of stuff all
like all the time during the Bell of Belt check ere.
They they're draft day two quarterbacks and they develop them
and then they trade them.

Speaker 5 (01:19:41):
For assets later. Yeah I don't I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
Uh yeah, fourth round though.

Speaker 5 (01:19:45):
I mean I don't think so.

Speaker 4 (01:19:47):
I'm here for all of the trolling, which, by the way,
it did manage to confirm that the the trade up
for Colston Loveland was intended as a troll to Sean McVay.

Speaker 3 (01:19:57):
I'm here for it.

Speaker 4 (01:19:58):
Sean McVay last year was you know, was messed with
Sean Payton about bow Nix and got him all stressed
out that he was going to draft bon Nicks and
so this year they come back and they leak out
they're going to draft Cols to love the guy Sean
mcmy like the ultimately didn't get him, but uh guy
he liked just to just to sweat them a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:20:13):
It's trolling, yes, through the hook up a little bit.
These guys do that.

Speaker 5 (01:20:17):
You know what, there's there's a general manager that coles.

Speaker 4 (01:20:20):
Different general managers during the draft like to set up
fake trades and stuff like that.

Speaker 5 (01:20:24):
Uh yeah, you know Chief's picks in the Broncos are
on the clock. What really amazes me about, you know,
just listening to you guys in the last two days,
especially on the on day one where you got you
already know what the pick is before anybody else knows.
So I'm I'm very curious about these inside context that
you have. How you get that now I get to

(01:20:44):
pick before I know. I know, you were wrong once
a couple of years ago on Justin Field because somebody
didn't put the question mark.

Speaker 4 (01:20:51):
They just said Justin Fields in sead of Justin Field's question.

Speaker 5 (01:20:54):
Is that the last time you were wrong? Though? Uh,
that is the last time I'm wrong on announcing a pick? Yes, yeah,
because that's a little, you know, taking a chance going
out there on a limb. You have to really trust
your source on that. Yeah, but it's very impressive.

Speaker 4 (01:21:06):
I would tell you how I do it, but they
would replace me right away with somebody that they knew
how to do that too.

Speaker 5 (01:21:11):
So if you told me some wait till after the breakdown,
I'll kill you. You have to kill maybe case. But
it's a really simple trick. It's not that it's not
incredibly competent.

Speaker 3 (01:21:19):
Okay, I'm still waiting to see what the chief selection
is here at one thirty three. The Broncos are on
the clock at one thirty four. It's still a lot
of really good players out there. Wide receiver, running back
could be a couple options here. They could go interior
offensive line. Uh, they they've kind of checked a lot
of boxes so far, right, I mean, we're getting it.
You know, it would have been defensive line for me

(01:21:40):
if they hadn't taken saving on Jones at the end
of the third round last night, like that would have
been one of the directions I would have liked to see.
Because I think you had to continue to add.

Speaker 5 (01:21:48):
I'm going to say they go interior offensive line.

Speaker 3 (01:21:51):
Okay, So for me would be amazing. Yeah, he'd probably
to Purdue. That'd be a phenomenal pick. What's up, man,
good to see you, that would be a nominal phenomenal pick.
Here a guy I thought firmly was a Day two
player all along. But maybe to the Texter's point, maybe
his anger issues, maybe there is something to that on
a reason why that he is here on day three.

(01:22:14):
Interior offensive line is such an interesting thing to scout
as it is, especially because you really do want a
certain fit and a certain type. So we'll get into
that if that ends up being the pick.

Speaker 4 (01:22:24):
But yeah, the Broncos selection should be coming in, and
just a little bit because the Chiefs, I still don't
have their pick just yet.

Speaker 5 (01:22:32):
Ben, are you gonna help? I don't have that handy, Sorry,
come on, Ben.

Speaker 3 (01:22:37):
Oh, they Chiefs took Royals.

Speaker 4 (01:22:39):
The Chiefs took Jalen Royals wide receiver. I just said,
what a great fit that would be after the catchability. Yeah, yeah,
I can't even believe he's still there.

Speaker 3 (01:22:50):
Well, at least there will be one successful Royals in
Kansas City. That's not even funny right now. I'm too angry.

Speaker 4 (01:22:58):
We're not we're not equipped, point quiped two point oh here.

Speaker 5 (01:23:03):
Yeah, God, Jailen Man.

Speaker 3 (01:23:06):
You you identified him really early in the process as
the guy that was sort of a hashtager guy. I
got really excited watching him at Utah State as well.
I can't believe it lasted the day three, but boy,
good stuff there for the Chiefs.

Speaker 5 (01:23:18):
Yeah, and I hate it.

Speaker 4 (01:23:20):
Yeah, that's gonna be I think in both the You know,
you look at two of my favorite receivers. One was
drafted by the Raiders, one was drafted by the Chiefs.
Those guys are gonna be problems in this division. As
the Raiders took Thornton, a big, fast guy out of Tennessee,
and then now you've got Royals, who's a really savvy
middle of the field guy with some after the capturability
there in Kansas City.

Speaker 5 (01:23:37):
Who said the best draft in the AFC West.

Speaker 4 (01:23:41):
The Raiders have had a good draft. Really, Raiders who
had a good draft? All right, is there a reason
we're playing the backtime? We?

Speaker 3 (01:23:50):
Okay, I think it was interesting.

Speaker 5 (01:23:51):
Just get out for this converse over right? That was
granted he went to push the I would wear a diaper,
but he pushed the wrong button.

Speaker 3 (01:24:00):
Yeah, that's good, by the way, just a little quick
program programming. Know, as we're waiting for the Broncos pick,
which is any minute now, we are going to be
at the top of the hour shifting over to our
sister station k How. You can stream that on the
iHeartRadio app or you can go listen to listen live
link on the website.

Speaker 5 (01:24:16):
But just as a heads up that six point.

Speaker 3 (01:24:18):
Thirty k How top of the hour, we're going to
be shifting over there because Rockies are coming on Koway
at noon. All right, Ben, anything the Broncos pick?

Speaker 5 (01:24:29):
Just yet? Waiting on the text, I got nothing yet.

Speaker 3 (01:24:31):
I haven't even seen if because they might be trading
back here if if we haven't, that's.

Speaker 4 (01:24:35):
What I believed was going to happen. So we'll see.
But I have not received anything yet. As in a
card turned in. Okay, all right, we were chaling Roy,
that's such a good pick.

Speaker 5 (01:24:47):
How many hours straight has mel Kiper's best pick on
the board been up? There? Shador Sanders the.

Speaker 3 (01:24:53):
Whole way because he said he was number one quarterback?
Yeah right, he was his number one quarterback. Man?

Speaker 5 (01:24:57):
Is he upset?

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (01:24:58):
He's furious there are turning in the car. He's taking
it personal.

Speaker 3 (01:25:02):
Yes, yeah, he is, and he's telling everybody that he
can what what a mistake it is that the league
is doing.

Speaker 5 (01:25:09):
This, and hey man, it's making him look bad.

Speaker 3 (01:25:11):
Basically he's uh, I mean kind of you know, I mean,
and I again, I appreciate the commitment to the bit,
but at the same time, man, it's like, at some
point you just have to accept. Okay, well the league
disagrees with you. Mel Kuiper, that's what it is.

Speaker 5 (01:25:25):
Yeah, they made that pretty clear, Mel.

Speaker 1 (01:25:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:25:28):
DJ Giddens here would be cool. I'm a big DJ
Giddens fan.

Speaker 5 (01:25:31):
I like him too. Out of KSU.

Speaker 4 (01:25:32):
I just don't think right now is the time to
double dip on the back.

Speaker 5 (01:25:34):
But I could be wrong. Well, waiting on that you
think you wait, you get another back later six round? Yeah,
I think, or I mean just depending.

Speaker 4 (01:25:43):
This is a deep class, so you might even have
a chance to wait, you know, almost UDFA for some
of these guys.

Speaker 3 (01:25:48):
Plus I think they signed the veteran with Nick Chubb
something like that.

Speaker 5 (01:25:52):
All right, so the bronxis pick is in. I'm waiting
on the text here.

Speaker 3 (01:25:55):
Sorry, they turned in the pick. We're just any minute
now gonna be able to get that and tell you
who the next diver Bronco is. So far they have
four players. This will make it five and they have
one pick left in the sixth round. We'll see what
the end of doing there.

Speaker 5 (01:26:08):
Trying not to look over your shoulder. I know this
is top secret stuff. No, it's not you waiting for
the pick. Yeah, I'm waiting on the text here. I
want to keep it a mystery. I get I'm looking
for you.

Speaker 3 (01:26:17):
Yeah, okay, because sometimes Twitter, you don't want me to
spoil this like Christmas morning?

Speaker 5 (01:26:20):
Can I just yeah, right, you don't want me to
spoil it for you, So okay, Well I'll try not
to do that, so I'm not going to look. I'm
looking here.

Speaker 3 (01:26:28):
So we'll see Jalen Royals going to Chiefs so lame.
Not that I don't think the Broncos were gonna take
him there.

Speaker 5 (01:26:37):
But just he and Xavi you're worthy next to each other,
and you know an Rashi Rice.

Speaker 4 (01:26:40):
In there there, all right, I gotta be tough.

Speaker 3 (01:26:44):
The Broncos are selecting Quandarius Robinson yep. So out of
Alabama yep.

Speaker 5 (01:26:52):
All right?

Speaker 3 (01:26:52):
So another edge. Well, I mean guess last night Savi
on Jones wasn't an edge, but he's a D lineman.
Do you go edge here with q Ronson who was
six four two and forty three pounds. He played nine
games last year at five starts, twenty three tackles, seven TfL's,
four sacks, and a forced fumble. And you know, I

(01:27:16):
think you're taking an Alabama edge rusher here, right, You're
taking an SEC another SEC guy here, Rick, What do
you think?

Speaker 5 (01:27:23):
Yeah, I don't think he can go wrong with Alabama guys,
certainly late in the draft like this. You know, maybe
he could be a rotational player, certainly with an upside,
just like the guy they took in round three from LSU.
That's how I look at him. He's pretty raw, basically
a project at this point. So both of these guys

(01:27:44):
both I think projects for the for the Broncos, they're
pretty set at that position anyway.

Speaker 4 (01:27:50):
Yeah, that's interesting me because you got down there at Tillman,
you just drafted Elis last year, You've got Cooper he
already paid, and you've got Benito do up for a contract.
This is this is sort of interesting me in that
pick an upside guy, probably special teams you know, the
special teams guy early on.

Speaker 3 (01:28:06):
But you're hoping that he works his way to the rotation.
Wonderful will be able to get a podium on this
because they're actually in commercial break. Maybe not. Doesn't look
like we're gonna get an opportunity to get that. So
but yeah, all sample size. By the way, he only
played a couple of games. Yeah, he started five games
last week. As we said earlier, lean but strong.

Speaker 4 (01:28:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:28:27):
Yeah. I mean, listen, you know you watch Alabama football
and you know that there's a certain type that they
look for in the Broncos. This is not the John
Elway regime where they avoid Alabama players because Nick Saban
has run them into the ground. In this case, go
out there and add talented edge rushers.

Speaker 4 (01:28:45):
And again I think it's you continue to invest in
the trenches, you continue to invest in the front seven.
I listen, I mean, I'm gonna dive in a little
bit more on ke Robinson and get some information on him.

Speaker 3 (01:28:56):
Ben, what do you think of the pick?

Speaker 4 (01:28:58):
I mean, again, to see the vision, to me, it
felt like a fifth edge rusher is a bit redundant.
But you know, again, especially given the other things that
you have, I probably would have traded back there. But
maybe they have a strong feeling about him, and they've
got a they've got a vision for him, and I'm
interested to see what that vision exactly is. You know,
you're talking about a traits and size guy without a

(01:29:19):
lot of experience overall. So again, I there's not a
lot of tape to sit there and do that on
They They must really have either h somebody close to
the situation with information or what they saw on tape.

Speaker 5 (01:29:32):
They were really happy about.

Speaker 3 (01:29:34):
You did mention as a special team's ability. That's something
that he did play there at Alabama. So since he
was a part time starter h he had, they're putting
their coverage talent on special teams, which what I will
say is he played.

Speaker 4 (01:29:47):
A very distinctive position, you know, on the on the
line there when he did play. I wonder if if
you couple this with sort of the the Savion pick
out of us, you if they're maybe shifting what they
do in terms of fronts to sively because Xavier Jones
is more like John Frank is more of a true forty.

Speaker 5 (01:30:03):
Three right end than he is like an edge rusher.

Speaker 4 (01:30:07):
And then you bring this guy in who kind of
sort of played the wolf on the you know, on
the I kind of wonder if they're trying to maybe
pivot to a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:30:13):
More of a of an even front. Can you explain
the wolf edge position?

Speaker 4 (01:30:17):
Yeah, so it's it's kind of what Michael Parsons does, right,
So you know, it's just not a hybrid will and
you know sort of thing. You can put a hand down,
you can stand up, you can move around a little bit.
It gives you a little bit of it's a little
bit of versatility.

Speaker 3 (01:30:29):
Well, that would make sense with his He's kind of
a tall and slender guy, right, This isn't like a
he's not a transition for you see defensive line. Yeah, yeah,
he's he's six foot four, two forty three.

Speaker 5 (01:30:39):
Right, so a little bit lean, you know on that,
but yeah, you can move them around.

Speaker 4 (01:30:44):
I wonder if they're trying to maybe change some things
up a little bit on what they do on their
defensive front.

Speaker 3 (01:30:49):
I like this described as mature and humble. Doesn't that
sound like a theme that the Broncos have. Sounds like
the theme of this draft. Yeah, that's been one of
the themes. So well, we'll have a chance to check
in with Q Robinson here in just a little bit
he's been meeting with the local media and then we'll
get him on the phone. We're also going to talk
to Dave Logan shortly, get his thoughts on the draft
so far, because he hasn't even had a chance to
react to the Saving Jones pick last night. We'll also

(01:31:11):
talk to Brad Williams coming up here, a comedian and
we're excited to talk to him. A super Broncos fan.
He's been out there in Green Bay firing up the crowd.

Speaker 5 (01:31:19):
The Broncos sent him to Green Bay. That's incredible, which Okay,
Like when he told me that, I was like, why
why are they sending you to Green Bay? Well, he
is a super fan and obviously the Denver Broncos just
far away from note if Dave really like him, Yeah,
and he does shows for them, He does private events
for them. Model, I've known him a long time. Very

(01:31:40):
funny guy.

Speaker 1 (01:31:42):
He was there.

Speaker 5 (01:31:43):
The Broncos even introduced him to Roger Goodell. He was
at the Goodell press conference and he asked a very
funny question to Goodell that I'll let him tell the
story when he comes on. We'll get him on what
after Dave Logan here.

Speaker 4 (01:31:55):
So just a little bit yep, and after Ke Robinson. Wait,
it looks like he's going to get the media scrum
here in just a minute.

Speaker 3 (01:32:04):
Steve Palozelo, our buddy, says, Broncos may be my favorite
hidden gym drafting team.

Speaker 5 (01:32:09):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (01:32:11):
Yeah, and that's that's the thing. Like again, some of
these names we're talking about, the names that we we've
obviously spent a lot of time studying and looking at.
Some of these names are going to be not necessarily
on the top of our board, but there's a reason
they're on the top of the Broncos board that there's
a specific need they feel, and the fact that he
does play special teams, which is something they can continue

(01:32:31):
on invest this maybe at Darren Rizzi pick this, maybe
Darren Rizzy saying, hey.

Speaker 5 (01:32:35):
You're this guy.

Speaker 3 (01:32:36):
You're going to find some developmental value in Ke Robinson
for maybe a few years from now, but right now
I can use this guy in special teams.

Speaker 4 (01:32:45):
Yeah, I mean to me, there's something that we don't
know in this one, right, And we talk about this
all the time. If something seems off, you don't know
what you don't know, right, So there's something that we
don't know about this when the coaches have identified, the
staff has identified that this is a guy that we want.
There are a lot of people, a lot of football
types out there calling this pick of steel right now.

Speaker 3 (01:33:06):
Yeah, tells me something that there was something going around. Yes,
Sam Monson, I know one of your favorite people. But
Sam Monson says, Keth Robinson could be one of the
steals of this draft. The guy has nasty pass rush chops,
great speed and bend around the edge, a nasty inside
counter and super effective long arm power move and he's
a special team stud love that move for Denver.

Speaker 4 (01:33:25):
Well, my good buddy, Eric Galco, who's the head of
the Shrine Game there, he's the director of the Shrine
Game said Broncos fans got an NFL ready versatile pass
rush weapon in Kee Robinson. He was a special team's
ace for Alabama early in his career, developing a versaal
edge linebacker pass rusher can work on all three downs.

Speaker 5 (01:33:40):
At the Shri Bowl, he.

Speaker 4 (01:33:41):
Impressed with his football and personal character and if it
wasn't for recovery from an injury, would have very likely
been a top HUNTERD pick.

Speaker 5 (01:33:48):
Okay, good stuff from Eric Galco.

Speaker 3 (01:33:50):
All Right, I dig it.

Speaker 1 (01:33:51):
I dig it.

Speaker 3 (01:33:52):
I think that the Broncos apparently now I'm seeing that
he did have elbow surgery. Yeah, I had surgery his
elbow after injuring it during the season, but said he
was one hundred percent healthy ready to go now and
uh again being described as a core special teams player.

Speaker 5 (01:34:09):
So him at Savian Jones, who they took back to
back pretty much the same player.

Speaker 4 (01:34:13):
Well, no, I think sa Savion again has been pointed
out as more of an interior guy.

Speaker 3 (01:34:19):
This guy is more of a stand up or he
says a as a as a wolf edge. I mean
so in this case, all right, so let's let's head
out to the hotline right now and bring on Q Robinson. Q,
thank you so much for joining us. Congratulations on being
drafted by the Broncos moments ago.

Speaker 5 (01:34:34):
What was that call?

Speaker 13 (01:34:35):
Like, Uh, it's very very emotional man, just you know,
seeing my family just their phone call may've been on
edge ever since the day started, so you know, just
to get that higher lead is pretty cool.

Speaker 4 (01:34:49):
Man.

Speaker 13 (01:34:49):
It's just really excited, man, you know what I'm saying, Like, like,
I'm just happy to be on a team man, let
alone nary Broncos. You know what I'm saying I'm a
bride right now. I have a lot to you.

Speaker 3 (01:35:02):
Big legacy of edge rushers here at Denver, obviously, Vondon
Miller probably the most prominent name recently.

Speaker 5 (01:35:08):
How does it feel to be added to that legacy?

Speaker 13 (01:35:13):
Man? It means a lot.

Speaker 11 (01:35:14):
Man.

Speaker 13 (01:35:15):
I definitely am just super excited to get there and
just have the team win as much as I can,
rather if there's own special teams or you know, on defense.

Speaker 3 (01:35:28):
Rick lewis hero color analysts for the Denver Broncos.

Speaker 5 (01:35:30):
Rick, go ahead, Hey you congratulations man, You're coming to
a great city and a great franchise. How much time
did the Broncos spend with you in the pre draft process.
Was this a bit of a surprise for you getting
drafted here in the fourth round? No, it wasn't.

Speaker 13 (01:35:49):
I spent like, I wouldn't say an overwhelming amount of
time together. But you know, they they expressed there, you know,
interesting me at the Combine, the East West Bowl, and
you know from that point on we've just been in touch,
you know, here and there. So you know, I've always
felt like they were pretty interested. You know, it was
just you know a matter of just you know, getting

(01:36:09):
that phone.

Speaker 3 (01:36:10):
Call Ku Robinson joining us here, one of the newest
denver of Broncos. One of the things that you're described
with as mature and humble. As I'm reading a little
bit of a description about you, what do you attribute
that to? Who in your life has sort of inspired
you to have maybe that disposition?

Speaker 13 (01:36:30):
Oh, my mom most definitely. You know, she's just one
of those hard working women and she just believes and
just you know, just working your tail off for everything
that you want. You know, everything is not given and
if it is given, giving back and work your tail
off for it, you know what I'm saying. And she's
just one of those women. So you know, I get
it from my mind. A very strong individual and she man,
she I'm just sur prided she has to that into me.

Speaker 3 (01:36:53):
Well, Q, we really appreciate the time.

Speaker 11 (01:36:55):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:36:55):
Congratulations again on being drafted by the Broncos. We can't
wait to meet you when you come out here.

Speaker 13 (01:37:02):
Yes, sir, I'm happy to be here.

Speaker 3 (01:37:04):
Man, go on, cutchery, let's do it awesome, all right,
Keu Robinson, We'll come back on the other side and
go be on k how so stick around. Oh we're
not okay, apologize. Uh, that was really great stuff there
from Kee Robinson and again I would just love to
speak with him a little bit longer there, but a
little bit of a thing there. But yeah, so again,
special teams, that's what this sort of screens. Developmental Edge

(01:37:26):
Rusher the best special teams player they ever had at Alabama.

Speaker 5 (01:37:31):
You know, I was wondering if he could work with
some of us being more mature and humble. I tried
that once. It wouldn't it didn't take it. So somebody
has already kind of done it.

Speaker 4 (01:37:42):
We've already we already had a humility intervention and uh, okay,
I just never give up.

Speaker 5 (01:37:47):
Yeah, I may you never give up. I always give up.
It just makes it easier. Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:37:52):
But you know, there's a there's a theme here as
we talked about it about a personality that they continue
to add and you know, adding to the locker room.
And I think that that's a I like that you're
not bringing in a lot of questionable background off field guys, right,
I mean, sometimes we could take those upswing looks at players.

(01:38:14):
You know, we talked about Mike Green earlier on in
the draft and the Ravens ended up selecting him, and
for them, they're willing to take on the risk of
what that could mean. Right, the same thing with Walter Nolan, right,
some offield stuff and questions there. But the Broncos they're
they're steering the exact opposite rick. They're going the exact
exact opposite direction as far as they're concerned. They're looking
at this in terms of wanting to bring on guys

(01:38:36):
that are captains. We've seen three captains drafted so far,
and two guys now that both played in the SEC,
both played defense, and one of them specifically could be
a core special teamer.

Speaker 5 (01:38:48):
Yeah, we've definitely seen a pattern develop here, that's for
sure with the Denver Broncos, and they're going for not
only a certain type of player, but certain type of character.
You know, they're bringing a good character guys. And you
mentioned they drafted three team captains in their first three picks.
And when you contrast this once again, going back to

(01:39:10):
Shador Sanders, if you're a leite talent, the league is
willing to overlook a lot of things in your background,
in your character if you're that kind of player, And
not that Chadur has any character issues, but it's just
all the other stuff, all the Sanders. Smoke that comes
with Shadur. He's not an a lead enough player to

(01:39:32):
overlook that, and that's why you see him continue to drop.

Speaker 3 (01:39:35):
All right, So catching you up on the draft since then,
one of my guys, Elik Amaner at Stanford, the Titans
traded up to one thirty six to select him, so
he knew that wouldn't continue to follow. Joshua Farmer, another
guy that I thought was gonna much earlier out of
Florida State. He just gets picked by one thirty seven.
Patriots are killing this draft. They might be my favorite

(01:39:55):
draft so far. Jordan Watkins at Old Miss wide receiver
going there to SI forty nine ers Tonka Hemingway. That's
a name, South Carolina defensive tackle going to the Raiders.

Speaker 4 (01:40:05):
Sky yea yeah, I mean with that guy, you either
got them all. People are right to fastening literature. So
we get to the fifth round. Now the Vikings are
on the clock at one thirty nine. I'm not giving
you that. I'm sorry to look.

Speaker 5 (01:40:17):
Yeah, you're a look, you're lucky.

Speaker 3 (01:40:19):
You're lucky that I call that the old man in
the look over here.

Speaker 4 (01:40:23):
There you go.

Speaker 5 (01:40:24):
You got the side on it big time. I did
I even caught a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:40:27):
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Speaker 3 (01:41:53):
We are into around five now, and moments ago the
Seahawks just traded Sam Howell to the of Vikings. The
Vikings are trading Sam training for Sam Howse Seahawks and
Minnesota swat picks one seventy two.

Speaker 5 (01:42:08):
So the the Seahawks move up thirty spots and give
up Sam Helse Sam al been on the block obviously.

Speaker 3 (01:42:14):
When they brought in Drew Locke, he became expendable. I'm
a big Sam how fan, so but I also Drew
Lock fan. Yeah, it's a good player.

Speaker 5 (01:42:23):
Apparently the Vikings are bigger Drew Locked fans.

Speaker 3 (01:42:25):
Apparently, Well, the Seahawks, I mean are bigger Drew Lock me.

Speaker 5 (01:42:28):
Yeah, the Shacks.

Speaker 3 (01:42:28):
I knew what you're going. We're gonna hear from Dave
Logan here in just a little bit. Get his thoughts
on the Broncos draft so far. So far as they
just picked another player Kee Robinson boy, I'll tell you
what you can follow along at Orbridge Radar at Albright
NFL on Twitter. We're treating a bunch of the draft
community that really loves this pick for the Broncos, calling
it one of the steals of the draft so far.

(01:42:49):
So I think sometimes again, Broncos fans, you know, you
get into a little bit of a tunnel vision thinking
about in terms of boy, I really liked this wide
receiver or this tight end or this running back that
the Broncos could have drafted, and then they ended up
taking a really good player that's going to impact things
now and some developmental upside. And that's what Keugh Robinson

(01:43:09):
looks like here. Rick is a guy that can be
a core special teams player for you today and as
a developmental edge. I like this stuff from John Ledgerd,
who's a good friend of ours who's been covering the
NFL Draft for a long time. He said, Kew Robinson
would have been a Day three developmental edge I targeted today.
Hardly played it all in college, but the flashes are
crazy good. Broncos might have done it again with a

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mid round edge.

Speaker 5 (01:43:32):
So with the young guys they have, but that position
Ellis Cooper, Bonito, Andrea Tilman out of the UFL too.
Dondre Tillman had a really good year. I kind of
surprised a lot of people. So Ben earlier, you said,
based on these last two picks, you feel like the
Broncos are going to go a little different direction in
their defensive scheme. Yeah, you just.

Speaker 4 (01:43:54):
I mean, you know, the Broncos have been sort of
a thirty four team. Now they've had forty three rules
in terms of how they do things with that, they've
been sort of a thirty fourteen for a long time.
But the way that they're sort of the guys they're
bringing in fit more of an even front look, more
of a forty three look, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:44:09):
With with with that kind of stuff, there's potential here.
I mean, maybe they're shopping.

Speaker 4 (01:44:13):
John Franklin Myers, because that's what the other part of
this move sort of suggests that maybe they've either shoping
John Franklin Myers, who is on the last year of
a deal and seeking new money. And of course they've
made commitments to the defensive line already. DJ Jones, you
gonna have to reeb Zach Allen, So you know, there's
a possibility that could be in play too.

Speaker 3 (01:44:29):
All right, So we're starting the fifth round here Ingram
Dawkins Okay out of Georgia, tiring Ingram Dawkins out of
Georgia going to the Minnesota Vikings. Here at the top
of the fifth round, Cam Jackson, defensive tackle of Florida
going to the Panthers. Carson Vincent out of Alabama, A
and M an offensive tackle going at pick one forty one.

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We're still in Shador Sanders watch as we're now into
the fifth round here, and once again, Ben, you said
this at the outset of the day, you said, I
don't know if he's well.

Speaker 5 (01:45:00):
Actually you did think he could go in the fourth round,
and now we are in the fifth.

Speaker 3 (01:45:04):
And Shadu, Yeah, I thought there was a couple of
teams that, uh in that first half that might take
a look there. Now as he drags on again, like
I say, there's a pivot.

Speaker 4 (01:45:11):
Point here where you just tell teams like, look, don't
we'll we'll we'll go work out and we'll figure it out.
You know, after this, don't don't draft me into an
untenable situation.

Speaker 8 (01:45:20):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:45:21):
It was similar to what Leo Collins, the tackle did
a few years ago when they right before the draft.

Speaker 4 (01:45:27):
He came up but as an associate on some murder charges.
Now he ultimately got to quit it and all that
kind of wasn't involved in it, but there there was
a situation that so nobody wanted to touch him. Well,
then the acquittal stuff started coming out in the middle
of the draft and he's like, well, it's the fifth round.

Speaker 3 (01:45:39):
Now I've lost a bunch of money.

Speaker 5 (01:45:40):
Just don't draft me. I'll come, I'll come find my spot.
We could see that happening right now. Yeah, where shaudure.
What if Shiloh gets drafted? I don't think he will
before that's.

Speaker 3 (01:45:51):
The meme running around Twitter, right, I don't think Shiloh's
gotta get drafted.

Speaker 5 (01:45:54):
We'll see, I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:45:55):
I don't think he'd I mean, being a slow, small
safety is probably you know, when a defense improved when
you went off the field, is probably not your ticket
to getting drafted.

Speaker 5 (01:46:02):
Do you think, I mean you look any out.

Speaker 4 (01:46:05):
There, If anybody out there needs a slow, small defensive back,
you're taking it's worse by being out there.

Speaker 5 (01:46:12):
I am readily available and play for you. Yeah. I
don't see Shiloh getting drafted. Won't tackle, So wouldn't that
be ironic if he gets drafted. Yea draft that would
be that would be something else?

Speaker 3 (01:46:23):
So five six six nine zero is there? O? Kwai
comma spiral text line? All right, let's head out to
the hotline. We're thrilled to bring on uh one of
the biggest Broncos fans out there, live from Green Bay.
I'm assuming still comedian Brad Williams joining us. Brad, thank
you so much for the time. Man, how are you?

Speaker 5 (01:46:40):
Hey?

Speaker 12 (01:46:40):
I'm doing great.

Speaker 10 (01:46:42):
Uh.

Speaker 12 (01:46:42):
I was at the draft day one, so I'm not
in Green Bay anymore because now I'm in Las Vegas
and so I'm telling you a little hungover, but I'm
still watching the draft. I'm still I'm still keeping up
with my Broncos. I was at the sphere last night
watching Dead and Company. So I'm seeing two of everything.
It looks like we got four edge rushers.

Speaker 5 (01:47:02):
I'm thrilled. This is awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:47:05):
Uh yeah, well, hey, look you're the heart of enemy
territory right now, raider country. Uh, celebrating the brush. So
I'm a double respect for that.

Speaker 11 (01:47:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:47:13):
What have you thought about the plan so far?

Speaker 12 (01:47:17):
Uh? So far the plan I think it's great. Now
I might be a homer. I might be the guy
that's just like the Broncos can do no wrong. But
I go by the general philosophy of I am a
four foot four white Dwarf from Orange County, California. I'm
assuming Sean Payton knows a little bit more about football
than I do, so that that's what I kind of assume.
I like the fact we got two edge rushers from

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the from the SEC. I like I like the most
recent pick, Q from Alabama. Before he got injured near
the end of the season, he was leading Alabama in
saxon tackles. I think that's a stat where you could
be leading Alabama and saxon tackles, you're probably a halfway
decent player. I like the draft strategy. I was a
little curious at first. I thought we were going to

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take like Omarian with the first round pick, but we
ended up going with a stud at cornerback, which I
like because I think we got a stud running back
in the following round. I like the strategy. I got
some friends that covered UCF. They were telling me about
the running back out of there that we got and

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they're very complimentary of them.

Speaker 5 (01:48:24):
Hey, Brad Williams, one of the top touring comics in
the business. I had them on my show yesterday, and
Brad tell the story about you being at the Roger
Goodell press conference. So the Broncos flew Brad out there,
and then he even goes it got to meet Roger
Goodell and you asked him, I thought a fairly pertinent
question for a four foot four inch And by the way,

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that's a stretch for you, a four foot four inch
huge football fan.

Speaker 12 (01:48:54):
Well, well, as we're talking about the round two draft
pick RJ. Harvey, Yeah, it's a running back. And yes,
the Broncos flew me out. I got to have a
special Q and a session with a lot of other
fans with the commissioner, Roger Goodell, and Goodell made the
mistake of calling on me. I did not run up
to the microphone. Goodell called on me, and I asked him, Hey,

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we're the The NFL has been talking about banning the
push push. Speaking of unconventional plays, the late college football
coach Mike Leach once suggested that they put a little
person in the backfield as a running back and then
throw him over the offensive line in short yarded situations.
Is there a chance we see that play implemented in

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the NFL in the future, and Roger Goodell laughed and
like Candel, he did not think that question was coming
out of all the questions that this man prepares for.

Speaker 8 (01:49:50):
You can't corner him on CTV.

Speaker 12 (01:49:52):
You can't corner him on player salaries, you can't corner
him on Jerry Jones. But if you throw out, if
you literally throw out a dwarf throwing out over the
offensive line, he doesn't.

Speaker 8 (01:50:03):
Know what to say.

Speaker 5 (01:50:05):
So after you, we can't. We can't let that Dinklage
guy get anymore. We got to wims exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:50:13):
I mean, we all.

Speaker 12 (01:50:14):
I do a joke, it's one of my most viral
jokes about when I performed for the USO overseas where
I got thrown into a Blackhawk helicopter. And so if
you name the play Brad Blackhawk, I think that's very
appropriate because now you're tossing me over the offensive line
only in short yarded situations.

Speaker 1 (01:50:35):
Very appropriate.

Speaker 3 (01:50:37):
Brad Williams joining us here, what did you think about
the first season of bon Nicks? Like, how amped are
you about what that young quarterback was able to do well?

Speaker 12 (01:50:48):
And this is one of those reasons why Bonus is
the prime example why as a Bronco fan, you kind
of got to sit back and let George and let
coach Peyton do what they do, and you kind of
have to trust them a little bit because I don't
think a majority of Bronco Nation was ecstatic about the

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bone Knicks pick, and then look what happened. So these
guys know what they're doing. They know football. It's just
so relieving to be a football fan. And when your
team has the guy at quarterback, the guy where you're like,
all right, that's our quarterback. I mean, we and Denver
have been really lucky over the years with Hall of

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famers at quarterback. You know, Morton Elway manning all these guys,
and then you know, in the last ten years we've
kind of been looking for the guy, and last season
we were all Bronco Nation just did a huge cybe
relief where bon Nicks is our guy.

Speaker 1 (01:51:48):
So now that's all right.

Speaker 12 (01:51:48):
We got our quarterback. We got him on the rookie deal.
Now we can build around him. And it looks like
that's exactly what we're doing in this draft. It looks
like we're getting him a little more help with our
Jay at the running back. And then we drafted Pat
Harvey or sorry, Pat Bryant out of Illinois. So yeah,
I think that's exactly what they're doing. And I'm really

(01:52:10):
looking forward to what to the next year in bon
Nick's development.

Speaker 3 (01:52:15):
Well, and I'll get your reaction to this, because this
is breaking news. Shaudor Sanders has just been drafted by
the Cleveland Browns in the fifth round. I pick one
forty four. So Shudor Sanders, who's been one of the
most talked about prospects in the draft. There's expectation, maybe
he goes first round. Thought for sure he was going
to go Day two, maybe even early day three. And

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here we are, in the early stages of the fifth round.
He gets selected by the Cleveland Browns. Brat, I'll start
with you, man, what's your reaction to that?

Speaker 12 (01:52:43):
Well, that is breaking news, and like I can't believe
I'm about to save this sentence. This is a sentence
I never thought I would ever say, while I would
while I was breathing air and above ground. I think
the Browns made a good decision. Everyone was talking about

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how should door is a first round the second round,
and then in the Browns was on those lists of
three or four teams where everyone thought he might go
to the Giants, the Browns Steelers was also a popular
destination for him, and then they get him in the
fifth round. I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure the Browns
just have to give him a They just have to

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pay him a gift card to Starbucks. If he's a
fifth round draft pick, like, they don't really got to
pay him. You could have him, you could have him
in your organization. And I think they did really well
because they're still under that Deshaun Watson contract, which we
all know doesn't have much of a happy ending, and
now that they can't pay other players that they got

(01:53:48):
Shaudor as in a steel in the in the in
the fifth round. I'm shocked to see how far Shoudor
fell to the fifth round. I don't know what those
interviews were. I don't know what he's that in those interviews.

Speaker 8 (01:54:01):
I don't know if this is.

Speaker 12 (01:54:02):
A league wide conspiracy Ala Kaepernick. I have no idea,
but it is going to be exciting to watch how
that situation developed. Certainly with James Winston no longer being
on the Browns, they still have Deshan so I don't
know what they're gonna do. And I think the chance
for Shador are going to happen pretty early for Cleveland.

Speaker 5 (01:54:27):
Best comedian Brad Williams, Man, thanks for your time today.
Brad obviously Bred is a huge Broncos fan and a
big football fan.

Speaker 3 (01:54:35):
Love the way he massaged that happy ending joke in there.

Speaker 12 (01:54:40):
While I'm while I'm still on with you guys. Next week,
I will be announcing shows in Colorado. I'm coming to Boulder.
I'm coming to a few other cities around Colorado. I
was in Denver New Year's Eve last year, so I'm
not going to Denver in early twenty twenty six, but
I will be in the surroundings. So uh, follow me

(01:55:02):
on social media Brad Williamscomedy dot com and you can
see what I announced those those Colorado shows.

Speaker 5 (01:55:10):
Thanks Brad, love you brother, Thanks for coming on.

Speaker 1 (01:55:13):
Thanks for having me guys.

Speaker 5 (01:55:16):
All right, great from Brad. You know he named his
baby daughter Elway for real. Wow, that's how big of
a Broncos fan he is. He's got a daughter named Elway.

Speaker 3 (01:55:29):
So, by the way, now they have but they took
they took del Gabriel yesterday. You say you take Dilan
Gabriel over Shadoor Sanders.

Speaker 5 (01:55:39):
Which I thought was bizarre. But even to follow that
up by being more bizarre, they took both of them.
That is weird. What are they doing? What are we doing?

Speaker 4 (01:55:48):
This is the last time somebody did that was at
the Washington when they took RG three and Kirk Cousins. Yeah,
but those are like RG three at the top of
the draft thing, Kirk Cousins on day two?

Speaker 5 (01:55:57):
This is did Cleveland do control?

Speaker 4 (01:56:00):
Dionne? If you're saying we're not going to Cleveland kind of,
I mean, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:56:04):
You know what, of all places, Chadure is not your
blue collar lunch pail prototype, right, Yeah, we were just
talking about that that Russ built. It's a whole different
vibe there. I can't even see Shaduur in Cleveland. I
wonder if Hill refuse to report.

Speaker 3 (01:56:19):
So you have a quarterback room, I mean you you
want to talk about like wanting a camera in this
room to see what this group is like. Joe Flacco,
Deshaun Watson, Kenny Pickett, Dylan Gabriel, Shudor Sanders. It sounds
like the world's worst boy band.

Speaker 5 (01:56:34):
They got one for everything.

Speaker 4 (01:56:35):
He got five of them in there. That's what I'm saying.
This is like the the Island of Survivor. Who wins
this thing?

Speaker 3 (01:56:42):
Like who's staying? Joe Flack's the crafty forever, That's right,
He's well, he'd be like the first one, but you
know he's the He's the Joey fatone. He might be
the best quarterback around forever. He's like the one guy
you could probably start on day one, right because Kenny Pickett,
I mean they traded for him. You're not dumping Kenny Pickett.

Speaker 5 (01:56:59):
Well, he just tickets the glass bass, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:57:01):
Then you got to.

Speaker 3 (01:57:02):
Really yea and they really were really Now go ahead,
why'd you explain that band to do that? Go ahead,
go ahead.

Speaker 4 (01:57:11):
Flora's your Christer Patrick. As we sit here in the
hollow halls of the Broncos, you play yourself the Chris Kirkpatrick,
and then you know, you get the j cs and
the you know all their names.

Speaker 3 (01:57:23):
Amazing.

Speaker 10 (01:57:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:57:24):
Big Instinct celebrates their entire catalog, even where the lead
singer was I can't remember his name, but even the offshoots,
everybody doing their own solo, a solo album.

Speaker 5 (01:57:34):
I've got a solo the solo album for.

Speaker 3 (01:57:39):
See Rick.

Speaker 4 (01:57:40):
I mean, this is the kind of comedy styling that
you could have every day of the Fox.

Speaker 3 (01:57:44):
You can just talk boy bands.

Speaker 5 (01:57:45):
I need someone like you.

Speaker 4 (01:57:46):
Can you wake up at four am rolling in?

Speaker 5 (01:57:51):
I might be able to stay awake until exactly all right,
So there you go, Standers.

Speaker 3 (01:57:55):
Congratulations to the Sanders family, Congratulations to sure finally we can.

Speaker 5 (01:58:01):
Is this not the worst picture?

Speaker 4 (01:58:03):
That's he doesn't look very happy the draft picture the
Bleacher Report put up, and he looks like the most
unhappy guy in the You know they photo shouted to
the Jersey just anything.

Speaker 5 (01:58:13):
I mean, seriously, you think he's really happy right now?
You know it's a fifth round, he's he's going to Cleveland.
And we were just saying they probably made calls to everybody,
said hey, don't draft us. We're gonna sit this one out.
He can't be happy.

Speaker 3 (01:58:30):
Well, we talked about it as a theory. I guess
I come back to the the embarrassment of completely going undrafted.
Even if you did start telling teams that we won't
know that and we wouldn't know that. I guess they
could always come out and say we told teams not
to draft us. But the this, I think, in a

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lot of ways, is embarrassing that they got this late
for for the Sanders family. Remember the pre draft process,
he was sort of talked about. I remember him quipping
when somebody said he might go twenty one to the Steelers.
He's like, I'm not going twenty one to the Steelers.
That's ridiculous. He was working out with cam Ward. He
expected to go in the top three. Cam Ward was
going number one overall. He thought he was going to
go much higher. His dad had been posting on social

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media saying that he was going to go inside the
top five. But then again, they played this in a
way where they were telling teams are actively making it
seem like they didn't want to go to certain teams,
and this is kind of what ends up happening. I
think this is the guy.

Speaker 4 (01:59:26):
She got on Instagram live and said that his favorite
pairing of quarterbacks and wide receivers was whoever's going to
be throwing to DK Metcalf and George Pickens of the
rival Brown's Steelers.

Speaker 3 (01:59:36):
That's right, he did do that.

Speaker 5 (01:59:39):
Yeah, they misplayed the whole draft process. Agreed they projected
him in their minds as an elite quarterback, and the
NFL said, I don't think so.

Speaker 4 (01:59:50):
How about the Cleveland brown saying we don't want Travis Hunter,
but we'd like to get Dylan Gabriel.

Speaker 5 (01:59:54):
Lets you door Sanders in here.

Speaker 3 (01:59:55):
Weird so weird.

Speaker 4 (01:59:57):
Yeah, yeah, and listen, I said coming into the draft,
I said, wouldn't it be kind of fun to have
Shadre Sanders and Travis Hunter play again at the pro level?

Speaker 3 (02:00:07):
And instead the Browns messed all that up. We'll never
have that, I mean unless against Shadoor eventually gets.

Speaker 5 (02:00:13):
Down to Jacksonville. Oh man, this is just weird.

Speaker 4 (02:00:17):
He's over here predicting another horrible slide for schor Sanders.

Speaker 5 (02:00:21):
Is Logan coming on? We're efforting it? Just hit me, Yeah,
that's we're efforting for place Dave Logan's team.

Speaker 3 (02:00:28):
Yeah, I can't wait to get his thoughts on sure
Sanders with his former team. All right, we'll come back
and we'll up at you on the rest of the drafting.
And we're in the fifth round. The Broncos don't draft
till the sixth round. As we sit here right now,
we will go over once again the players that they
have drafted and give you some thoughts on that. Also,
you guys can hit up with the text line five six, six,
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We are a lot for Broncos Park Power Guy by
Common Spirit is Day three of the twenty twenty five
NFL Draft has been an action packed Day three. We
started out the day with the Broncos having two picks.
They have selected a player, Ke Robinson out of Alabama's
an edge rusher, a course special teamer. We'll get into
a little more breakdown of that moment. To go Shure
Sanders going to the Cleveland Browns trade up to pick

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one forty four to select him.

Speaker 5 (02:02:00):
So his slide officially ending.

Speaker 3 (02:02:01):
And that is two quarterbacks, two quarterbacks, now that the
Cleveland Browns have selected one in the third round and
now one here in the fifth round. Second. Don't show me, Dad,
and to hear more about Shador Sanders, grant go ahead
and fire away.

Speaker 14 (02:02:21):
Shudeur Sanders, quarterback, Colorado, six foot two, two hundred and
twelve pounds.

Speaker 5 (02:02:30):
Shdor Sanders to throw who dance home of pocket, runs
off to his left.

Speaker 3 (02:02:33):
I's gonna pump, I was gonna run dives.

Speaker 1 (02:02:34):
Grandisode touchdown, touchdown.

Speaker 14 (02:02:37):
Colorado Sanders enters the NFL Draft after playing for his dad,
the un Sanders at Jackson State and Colorado. He was
the Big twelve offensive player of the year as he
threw for over forty one hundred yards and thirty seven
touchdowns in twenty twenty four. Film review shows he takes
too many sacks and will lead to learn how to
throw the ball away in the pro game. While the

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twenty three year old doesn't possess elite part strength, his
arm is still strong enough for the next level. It
can be a weapon when playing on time.

Speaker 8 (02:03:10):
That was.

Speaker 3 (02:03:17):
I tried to pry myself other professionalism, but you can't
show me stuff like that.

Speaker 5 (02:03:22):
Tries to do some work.

Speaker 3 (02:03:24):
I'm crying, man. You just go see it on Ben's
Twitter timeline, on my Twitter timeline what we just shared.
But that was great. Congratulations to Sure Sanders drafted one
four overall. Catch you up on a few picks here
that went down just a moment ago. Ty Hamilton defensive
tackle at Ohio State going to the La Rams at

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one eight. Jordan James finally going off the board there,
running back out of Oregon like Jordan James a lot.
He went to the San Francisco forty nine ers. That's
a fantastic fit for him. Braydon Swinston LSU Edge, that's
another good player. Patriots, man, what it's killing me. Patriots
are just having a great draft. They are Mac McWilliams
at a UCF cornerback going to the Eagles. Sure Sanders

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have mentioned Jordan Phillips, aut of Maryland defensive tackle going
to the Dolphins. Riley Mills at a Notre Dame going
to the Seattle Seahawks, and then Carson Vincent. I think
I mentioned him already. So we have the Dallas Cowboys
at pick one nine. Now they take Jaydon Blue. Okay, there,

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I mean there you go, right, I mean an investment
in the running back. Yeah, more of a receiving back
there for Jade Blue, like Jane Blue. The only thing
that I didn't love about him and and why even
in the conversations, despite some of the explicit nature of
his abilities, he fumbles the ball a lot, and the
Broncos just they're not. They still work within the margins

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that they can't handle it. I don't think many teams
in the NFL can. But that's something that he's gonna
have to shore up at the next level.

Speaker 5 (02:04:58):
Rick, Yeah, you know how good you have to be
his running back to fumble the ball and still let them,
you know, can continue to let you play. Melvin Gordon, Well,
it didn't last long, though it did, but it didn't
last all that long. Right before you knew it, he
was out of the league. I was thinking back to
Eric Dickerson when he first came in the league. He

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had a little fumbling issue. But to keep Barber, to
keep Barber is another one. Yeah, they're not going to
let you play too long if you put the ball
on the ground unless you're a Hall of Fame type talent.

Speaker 3 (02:05:31):
Right, like was the Dolphins picking at one fifty. The
Broncos don't select again until the sixth round at one
ninety seven. So we are quite a ways away from
the Broncos pick. And then you said, for a while
they use things that the broncosoud like to get a
couple more players.

Speaker 4 (02:05:48):
Yeah, here, I think they'd like to get too. We'll see,
you know, dadst in somebody again that could be there.
They haven't addressed the tight end position. We'll see offensive
line still need somebody to back up, you know, to
back up that interior of the offensive line, a guy
like Nash Jones, although he could be a priority undrafted
free agent type as well.

Speaker 5 (02:06:05):
So just some guys, keep your eye on them.

Speaker 3 (02:06:07):
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Speaker 5 (02:06:15):
How could he not know that? I know, right, that's
a major gaff by Brad Williams. I'm gonna let him
know gonna. I'm gonna text him right now, you gotta.

Speaker 3 (02:06:25):
We'll tell him we love him and tell him thank you.

Speaker 5 (02:06:26):
But also, yeah, like.

Speaker 4 (02:06:28):
I'm being told, the punishment for this is that he
has to rename his daughter os Swiler.

Speaker 3 (02:06:33):
Dude, that's good.

Speaker 5 (02:06:36):
I'm texting him right now. That's a major gap being
kicked in. The jokes are getting funnier.

Speaker 4 (02:06:40):
Well, or we're gonnat a little of loofy and lu
wear it all and theokes are getting funny.

Speaker 3 (02:06:45):
Either way, you'll take it. Yeah, this one awesome, awesome interview.
The happy ending and joke had me weak. It's pretty
pretty clever man for you. I mean again, I hate it.
I know the Broncos like Alex p and Frank croumb
but we'll Denver finally pick a tackle for the first
time since Garables, they have not drafted an offense.

Speaker 5 (02:07:05):
I don't believe it'll be a tackle.

Speaker 4 (02:07:06):
I believe it'll be an interior alignment if we If
we do so, we'll see it makes some sense.

Speaker 3 (02:07:11):
Shure Sanders, tweeting out moments ago, thank you God, there
you go.

Speaker 5 (02:07:15):
Did he did? He hashtag it legendary? He did not
in this case, didn't not do well, that's notable. Hashtag legendary.

Speaker 3 (02:07:23):
That is, he gonna move on from that as fast
as Russ moved on from Let's ride.

Speaker 5 (02:07:29):
It appears like he did right, just already dropped it,
because this morning he tweeted out this morning and it
was hashtag legendary. Yeah. So yeah, this when I was
at the c U Pro day.

Speaker 4 (02:07:40):
By the way, Billy Musgraves spent a lot of time
with Shidewor Sanders.

Speaker 5 (02:07:43):
I grabbed a little video of it. I just posted.
I was like, should have known back then, I.

Speaker 4 (02:07:50):
Will see here. Sure should be very happy. He's got
Judy Fannin.

Speaker 3 (02:07:55):
Kevin Stefanski is a great quarterback developer, was not to
be optimistic about.

Speaker 4 (02:08:00):
Oh, also, David and Joku could be a good start. No,
we're all rooting for Sor. This isn't even like a
shot at him. It's it's a it's five quarterbacks in
a room. Well, the name he didn't mention there Cedric Tillman,
a wide receiver that out there of the Browns. They
got big plans for him. They think he's good. He
could be a name that breaks out of the national
scene next year.

Speaker 3 (02:08:17):
Ben called shador a teddy Bridgewater type, who would draft
him that high? Yeah, I mean it's fair. I mean
that we're talking about traits. It's kind of what he is.
He's the same size, same build, same games as Teddy
a lot of ways, except Teddy got it out quick.
I don't even know what to say about that next one.
You could read that one if you want to read
that one, but I don't know if you want to

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get to that one or no. Let's be real.

Speaker 4 (02:08:39):
Ben the worst boy band ever lived and died in
Arkansas in the nineteen nineties.

Speaker 5 (02:08:42):
I know exactly what he's talking about.

Speaker 3 (02:08:43):
The former boy band I was a part of back
in the nineteen nineties as the I was the token
white guy in the band, and we were not good.

Speaker 5 (02:08:51):
So this is the real thing.

Speaker 3 (02:08:52):
It's a real thing that happened.

Speaker 5 (02:08:53):
I thought this was a joke. No, you have any video?
Do you have any audio?

Speaker 4 (02:08:57):
There is a video my mother has at some point
on a VHS somebody's got a VHS player.

Speaker 1 (02:09:02):
There is a video.

Speaker 4 (02:09:04):
We were matching purple vlure suits. Everybody was rocking a
high top fade and it was it's.

Speaker 5 (02:09:10):
Something to behold. You sing good enough?

Speaker 3 (02:09:15):
I attempted it enough, Like Julius Thomas. Were you the base?

Speaker 5 (02:09:20):
He was the show pony, he was the were he
the good looking one?

Speaker 3 (02:09:23):
He was white chocolate.

Speaker 5 (02:09:24):
I like to think I was. Okay, he was chocolate.

Speaker 3 (02:09:29):
Looking like vanilla ice up there with It was not
it was not good.

Speaker 5 (02:09:33):
It was it was can you dance? I could sing
better than I could dance.

Speaker 4 (02:09:36):
Let's put it.

Speaker 5 (02:09:36):
What's the whole point of this?

Speaker 3 (02:09:41):
What would you say you do here?

Speaker 5 (02:09:42):
Yeah? What's the point of music at the first place? Right? Yeah?
But everything else it was high school? Okay, Well, I
forgive you for that.

Speaker 4 (02:09:50):
This was like, this wasn't like a real endeavor.

Speaker 5 (02:09:52):
This was like, okay, high school. Yeah, sure, like a
talent show or something. You didn't actually go do gigs
like that. We we did a couple the gigs, like
like a Shaky's Pizza kind of gigs kind of stuff.

Speaker 3 (02:10:03):
Okay, okay, park Walmart parking lot. DJ Giddons just went
off the board of the Colts.

Speaker 5 (02:10:10):
Okay, that makes sense. By the way, Walmart parking lot
was reserved for the Backstreet Boys.

Speaker 3 (02:10:13):
We weren't that big, so.

Speaker 5 (02:10:16):
I'm dead serious about that. They gave a concert the
Walmart parking lot. I don't they did.

Speaker 3 (02:10:20):
That's why I mean the reference.

Speaker 5 (02:10:21):
I would love to see the video what my mom has,
the she has the vhs. You give me your mom's number.
I'm not giving you my mom's.

Speaker 3 (02:10:27):
Number for like ten different riches.

Speaker 5 (02:10:30):
Wow, Rickles, I'm not giving up.

Speaker 4 (02:10:32):
I'm not giving you my mom's number.

Speaker 5 (02:10:33):
For about ten different read like your mom's number.

Speaker 3 (02:10:37):
Two and a half hours into draft covers before Rick
wanted mom's nubber.

Speaker 5 (02:10:41):
Hey Kim, what's up Cora? For the different Broncos, Rick
Los project be hurt. I'll send her some of my videos.
Don't know. That's even worse. I can't say that on
the air. Okay, did you?

Speaker 3 (02:11:02):
Uh never mind, I'm not gonna carry this on any further.
Uh so, yeah, DJ Giddens man, I really like DJ Giddens.
Yes he did. He just left the Colts. Yeah, it's
a good pick there for for the Colts that out
of Kansas State. Uh of course, see you saw him
and he absolutely torched them when those two teams played.

(02:11:23):
That was a that was a big loss for CU
because they had a chance to put themselves in uh
impossibly college football playoff territory if they had to beat
Kansas State. Who was ranked at the time. But DJ
Giddens came in to see you and he just torched him.

Speaker 4 (02:11:34):
Yeah, yeah, he's a good player. That's gonna be Uh,
that's gonna be interesting. They're they're really adding around to
give whoever the quarterback is gonna be there, whether it's
Daniel Jones, whether it's uh Anthony Richardson, whoever, the quarterback
is gonna not gonna have.

Speaker 5 (02:11:47):
Excuses this year. And Devin Neil continues to drop. Yeah,
he's still out there.

Speaker 4 (02:11:52):
You see, probably see him get picked up here in
the next twenty pictures.

Speaker 5 (02:11:56):
Wasn't he supposed to be a Day two probably? I mean,
of course, class like this, you're probably looking at a
Day three pick.

Speaker 3 (02:12:02):
There so other running backs. I mean you mentioned Devin Neil,
David Martinez Smith who I like, it's a converted wide receiver,
Laquin Allen, who you've been high on.

Speaker 5 (02:12:11):
I'm a very big fan of Quinnellen.

Speaker 3 (02:12:12):
I love Olie Gordon to Oklahoma State. I'm still surprised
he's sitting out there. Donovan Edwards out of Michigan's another
name that's out there. So still a lot of running
backs at the Broncos decided to double dip my got
Tory Horton wide receiver. You mentioned Isaiah Bond. I think
he continues to slide Tess Johnson out of Oregon Boenix's brother.
Be interesting to see where he ultimately goes. So there's

(02:12:32):
there's plenty of options here for offensive weapons. We mentioned
tight ends. Mitchell Evans at a Notre Dame, Jackson Hawes
that of Georgia Tech are still out there. Your guy
Ronda Gatson is still out there, so some of some
options there. Brennan Steel out of a Clemson, like you said,
it's more of a is a six foot six, two
hundred and forty one pound all time leader in career

(02:12:53):
receptions by a tight end there at Clemson, which is
pretty impressive to say, considering the lineage of Clemson. So so, yeah,
a lot of options still for the Broncos with their
one pick if they decided to split that pick and
move back. You know, last year, Rick, they did some
good stuff there in the seventh round getting the Vley,
So that wouldn't really surprise me if they have some
guys in mind if they could split that sixth rounder

(02:13:15):
and move back a little bit.

Speaker 5 (02:13:16):
Yeah, Veyle was quite the contributor last year will be
even bigger. I think in his role this year. And
you mentioned Ali Gordon, I think there's some value there
with him in the sixth round running back. I think
the Broncos whould take a look at that. At one
point people thought he was the first round talent.

Speaker 4 (02:13:34):
Yeah, there's a lot of last year and then this
year just fell off a cliff.

Speaker 3 (02:13:38):
All right, So let's rerac things a little bit here
for the Broncos on the selections, and we're gonna try
to check in with Dave Logan here in a little while.
Jade Barron right off the top here, Rick, get your thoughts.
I know you gave it to us on Thursday night,
but taking a quarterback, a guy that can play on
the slot, you could play him outside. There's a lot
of versatility to what he could do. He is a
very good tackler, really quick in space in a phone booth.

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What did you think about that pick?

Speaker 5 (02:14:04):
Well, it's surprised us because number one, we thought he'd
be off the board by twenty number two, we thought
the Broncos would go offense with that first pick. Yeah,
he's a heck of a player. Jim Thorpe a Ward.
As you mentioned, Versat only can play inside, can play outside,
could even play safety. He was team captain. I love
the interview when he came on with you guys the

(02:14:27):
other night. He said all the right things. And that's
been a trend too for this Broncos football team. Every
guy they picked, you know, you could tell they're good
character guys and they're guys that are hard nosed. They
got an edge. They got a good player and Shade Barron.
I know a lot of Broncos country was disappointed, but hey, listen,

(02:14:47):
anytime you can make your defense better, and he will
make the defense better. I think he did the right
thing with him.

Speaker 4 (02:14:53):
I mean, look, I think Baron was a shocker in
terms of being there at twenty. The Broncos thought he
was going to be gone to the Miami Dolphins. They
had a top ten grade on him in this class.
They did not believe he.

Speaker 5 (02:15:07):
Was going to be there.

Speaker 3 (02:15:07):
And when you fall on your lap and you're like, well,
we need a slot corner improvement here, we need to
go on and do this.

Speaker 4 (02:15:12):
So this is you know, this is I think a
fantastic pick. I think it's going to pay dividends. And
he's got some versatility there too, not just the slot.
He can move around, play the safety, move play the
dimebacker role the way Will Parks used to sort of
move around. He could do that, but they view him
as a slot corner in the potential Chris Harris two
point oh.

Speaker 5 (02:15:29):
Kind of way.

Speaker 3 (02:15:30):
I love the pick, love their value, love the pick too,
by the way he did, Yes, yes, And he's pretty particular,
by the way. There are times when he's been pretty
critical of some of the secondary play for the Broncos,
and so I actually wanted to see what his thoughts
were on that pick specifically. I know there were some
sort of hot takes flying around about the Broncos taking
a corner to there. First of all, ignoring an offensive

(02:15:52):
playmaker right running back, wide receiver, tight end. I want
to say, it's ignoring so much. Is just sort of
taking a valuable, top end player right, adding to your
team in a way that is a premium pick, as
George Payton laid out, because that's what the league is.
It's a passing league.

Speaker 5 (02:16:10):
I think what bothered people was Hampton was there and
then the Chargers got them. That's right, you know, So
that was it was disappointing. For a lot of Broncos Country,
and I totally get it because I think Hampton's a
heck of a running back. The Hampton would have been
a great fit here for the Denver Broncos, and then
after passing on him, then the Chargers take them. Now

(02:16:31):
we have to play this guy two times a year.
So you know, Broncos Country was a bit agitated, and
then second round they were a little agitated again. They
didn't like Harvey. Maybe they don't know enough about Harvey,
but I think Harvey's a really good fit.

Speaker 4 (02:16:45):
It's really effect But I think Colorado people's most only
exposure to R. J. Harvey was that game where Colorado
played UCF and that was Harvey's worst game.

Speaker 5 (02:16:54):
He didn't do it. That's probably your only exposure. You're like, well,
this guy's underwhelming, you know.

Speaker 3 (02:16:57):
So you proberdentially point about, well, how Broncos fans were
reacting to the pick in the first round, because it
was not just Hampton going to the Chargers, it was
also asking Jenny going to the Raiders and thinking somehow
that the Broncos could do what they can't to prevent
other teams from getting players. There's only so much you
could do that. I think you focus on getting better yourself,

(02:17:18):
and you worry. You're not going to spend extra energy thinking, well,
we can't let this player fall to this team that's
in our own division. I think that that would be
kind of focusing on the wrong things. If you're an
NFL team, you had to focus on yourself in yourself
getting better. You can't block the Chargers from every good
player in the draft. The same thing with the Raiders
or the Chiefs. They're gonna draft good players. Even the

(02:17:40):
Chiefs taking Simmons at the end of the first round.
That's a good player and maybe one of the top
offensive tackles. If you hadn't been hurt, you couldn't block
them from getting a good player. So I do think
that the it's a little misplaced in the frustration that
the Broncos didn't take Hampton and could have blocked him
from going to the Chargers.

Speaker 5 (02:17:57):
I never saw them trading up to get gent. I
just didn't think that was going to happen. So I
didn't put a whole lot of thought into that. But Hampton.
There was a lot of people thought Hampton would be
off the board before twenty and then he wasn't, and
I was. You know, I think pretty much all of
us thought, all right, there's your pick right there.

Speaker 4 (02:18:14):
Yeah, yeah, Hampton Henderson. I think those are the guys
that are both kind of dialed in on there. Hampton's
gonna be interesting because, like I said, you go see
him twice a year now, so it's gonna be fasting
Henderson getting picked by New England. Don't we play the
Patriots this year?

Speaker 3 (02:18:29):
I think I think we do. By the way, Marcus
bo just went off to the Giants with the Giants
sat of Purdue, so the interior offense line he was
going to be there by how you were picking in
the sixth round anyways. But certainly a guy like Jalen
Rivers out of Miami interior offensive lineans where you're seeing
a couple of those guys come off the board. Here
Schamar James from Florida livebacker going to the Cowboys at one.

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One in the twenty twenty five draft, the clean selected.

Speaker 3 (02:20:00):
Thank you everybody CARER support. Thank you everybody out there,
all the fans. Thank you for Corredo's organization.

Speaker 5 (02:20:09):
You give me a chance that I love that.

Speaker 3 (02:20:19):
That's great and that's why you get drafted.

Speaker 4 (02:20:21):
Right.

Speaker 3 (02:20:21):
We were talking about it earlier about maybe you should
where Sanders gets to a point, maybe get a little
bit bitter. Maybe you just think about the protecting your
own brand. You start telling teams we're not interested. I
love that, the mindset of, hey, you know, actually I'm
thrilled to be drafted. You know, I remember for years
from Philip Lindsay like that that that was a source
of frustration, all the productivity he had at CU didn't

(02:20:44):
get a combine invite and didn't get drafted, and there's
just a level of frustration, like what else do I
have to do? I was, I was a great player
at the University of Colorado, is an all timer there,
and not to be able to be drafted there. So
I think it's a right mind set of just give
me a chance, and I rick I love the message

(02:21:04):
there from Sure.

Speaker 5 (02:21:05):
Yeah, I agree. It's gonna be fun to see how
this works out for him in Cleveland. He's got he's
got an ether, even bigger spotlight on him now. Yeah,
uh than he had before.

Speaker 4 (02:21:17):
So I'm looking at the Browns war room, the video
of them after taking this pick, and I'm gonna say
that's about the least enthusiastic.

Speaker 5 (02:21:24):
War room I've ever seen. You see that one guy smiling,
Andrew Berry.

Speaker 4 (02:21:29):
They're just sitting Andrew Berry looks like he's like, oh
my god, the owner made me pick him. Like this
that is about the most unenthusiastic, like you know, and
need to compare that to how they were where they
got Dylan Gabriel and I'm like, my goodness, well, you.

Speaker 5 (02:21:43):
Know he's probably gonna be a backup quarterback. And you've
got a backup quarterback now going into Cleveland who already
have a problem with Deshaun Watson and all the stuff
going on with him. Now you're gonna have a backup
quarterback that's going to bring a lot of smoke with him.

Speaker 3 (02:21:59):
Your guy Jeffery Bassa just went off the board to
the Chiefs man.

Speaker 5 (02:22:01):
The Chiefs are having my draft.

Speaker 4 (02:22:03):
Between Royals and Bassa, and uh, yeah, Simmons is a
great pick in the first round.

Speaker 5 (02:22:09):
Simmons got.

Speaker 4 (02:22:10):
Yeah, they're they're they're they're drafting been guys this this year.
And I'm a little a little upset about it.

Speaker 3 (02:22:14):
Well, i mean, you are a former Chiefs fan, so
recover part of you, including the part that's the tattoo
on your body, which you can you won't disclose where
I'm sure they're that part is feeling very happy about this.

Speaker 4 (02:22:27):
Well, you know, because the tattoo was so close to
that part. I don't you wanted to play that way?

Speaker 3 (02:22:32):
We can We can do that ten percent every single time.

Speaker 5 (02:22:34):
I got a question for you guys. This is from
a listener that's a friend texted me. How much input
do you think the star players on the team have
into who they draft? I mean not this is in
reference to Shador Sanders drop.

Speaker 13 (02:22:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:22:51):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (02:22:52):
Well, okay, I speaking of a draft pick that the
Browns had. I'll say this, Miles Garrett had some input
on Mason Graham being drafted, But I not really. I
mean the scouting department all that kind of they makes,
the listens of feedback or those kinds of things, or
a star player may come to them saying I want
to pay raise and oh, by the way, I want
somebody next to me that you.

Speaker 5 (02:23:09):
Know this kind of thing. You may have a quarterback
talking about a receiver.

Speaker 4 (02:23:13):
I e Bo and his brother Tes Johnson might see
something like that maybe a little bit later, But I
would not say that it is a large amount of
influence at all.

Speaker 5 (02:23:21):
But how about going taking the negative side of it,
where they don't want that guy, Yeah, we don't want
if they know him, if they know him, Yeah, you
can see.

Speaker 3 (02:23:28):
Some of that yeah, And Sean has said, so is George,
that that if it's a player that they either played
against or played in college with, they will ask. They
will ask, And I imagine it could sway if it's close, right,
I mean, if they're thinking about it, if the thinking
seriously about it. Again, Test Johnson's an example here where
I mean they already know Bonex to say great things

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about Tess Johnson. There's nothing that Bonix is probably going
to add that will change that. They already know how
he feels about that. But if there's somebody else that
is more of like, Okay, well we've liked this player
so far, is there something that we're missing? Just one
more little anecdote. And I don't even think it has
to be a star player. I think it could be
anybody on the roster. If you're on the roster and
you're a fixture on the roster one way or the other,

(02:24:11):
and you have experience with this player, whether playing against
or with, then you're gonna get asked. So it's pretty common,
pretty common situation. We have the Green Bay Packers at
one point fifty nine, Rick and Oego only got you
for a few more minutes. I just wanted to kind
of get your your thoughts so far on the draft.
You got one more player, but I mean, let's just say,
for instance, this is the meat of what they do.

(02:24:31):
How are you going to feel about it?

Speaker 5 (02:24:34):
I love the first round pick. I really like our
Jay Harvey in the second run. I think he's going
to be a really fun player to watch, explosive player.
He's going to bring some juice to that offense, which
they really need. Pat Bryant was a bit of a
surprise to me, the wide receiver out of Illinois. Although

(02:24:54):
the more I learn about him, the more I like him,
and they love him, and if they love them, you know,
that's that's good enough for me. These guys know way
more about football than any of us in this room
there combined, and so you have to trust the process
on that one. And Pat Bryant to me, is a
guy that's got an upside. As we said, he's an
ascending player. He's he's he makes contested catches. I think

(02:25:19):
that's one thing they really like about him. A good
vertical leap at the combine. So this is the guy
that can jump. He's got great hands, he's strong, he's
got an edge to him. He's the guy that told
Nick Ferguson he he put it what was Yeah, but
he put about DB's I like putting dbs yeah, which
is kind of ruffled Nick's feathers a little bit, so

(02:25:42):
that I really liked about him. In fact, all these
guys that we've interviewed here, I like the way they
they that they present themselves, and I'm sure that's what
the Broncos really liked about them as well. They have
an edge, they've got an attitude, they're good character guys.
So the those top three picks I'm happy with. Since

(02:26:02):
then it's kind of let's see what happens with the
other guys, Ke Robinson and Saveon Jones. For me, I
don't know if I would have gone that direction, because
they already have some good edge rushers and Ben. You
suspect something else is going on there. Maybe Yeah, that's
a team.

Speaker 4 (02:26:20):
Yeah, that's too much addition to one specific area to
not say, hey, we're either switching something defensively or we're
moving on from me.

Speaker 3 (02:26:27):
I guess I look at it the other way. I
just say, it's always good to have depth.

Speaker 5 (02:26:30):
In those positions.

Speaker 3 (02:26:31):
Oh, I'm with you.

Speaker 4 (02:26:32):
It's always good to have depth that's very specifically targeting
one specific area and kind of niche type picks because
those guys are niche players.

Speaker 5 (02:26:40):
They're not every down guys, neither one of them.

Speaker 4 (02:26:42):
And so like the roles that they have are very specific,
and it just either lends to, hey, look we're shifting
our defensive philosophy more than either front, or we have
a redundant player here somewhere.

Speaker 3 (02:26:52):
Colin Oliver, linebacker at Oklahoma State, goes to the Packers
at one fifty nine. We were a pick one sixty
and once again the Bronco is not picking at least
right now until all the way in the sixth round
at one ninety seven. So it's gonna be a minute
before the Broncos are back on the clock. But we'll
continue to break it all down. We're gonna take quick
break here at the top of the ore. Rick, you

(02:27:14):
are the man. This was a lot of fun.

Speaker 5 (02:27:15):
There's a quick two hours, yeah and whip by fast.
You guys are killing it. Great job as always, Thanks
for having me. Thank you Dave Tepper as well. Yeah,
and I'm not giving you my mom, so now you're
not sending her any Rick picks. Well, look there's a call,
come in it right now. Okay, this is all bright,
this is Saturday anymore. Unless he's using a different name,
that must be Yeah, throw me off a little.

Speaker 4 (02:27:37):
Yeah, yeah, I think we added to the lexicon though
for rick Lewis with the diaper drop and now can
I get your mom's phone number?

Speaker 10 (02:27:44):
Two?

Speaker 5 (02:27:44):
Yeah, it's been an interesting two hours. Yes, yeah, I've
had fun. Thanks for having me out.

Speaker 3 (02:27:48):
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Speaker 3 (02:29:00):
As we roll on through day three of the twenty
twenty five NFL Draft, we were live from Broncos Park,
power by Common Spirits, Ryan Edward, Zach Seeger's joining me here.
What's up?

Speaker 5 (02:29:10):
Zach?

Speaker 15 (02:29:11):
Not much excited to be on with you guys talking
about exciting Broncos draft so.

Speaker 3 (02:29:15):
Far be Could you dressed up? I like it?

Speaker 5 (02:29:17):
Yeah, I learn from the best.

Speaker 15 (02:29:18):
I saw you dressed up on the earlier shows and
I felt, you know, Ben and Dave were making you
the sore thum these past couple of days, and I felt,
you know, time to make Ben and his.

Speaker 3 (02:29:28):
Joggers feel like that, his jockers, his his capris. I'm
dressing him up. They're sweatpants.

Speaker 5 (02:29:36):
But yeah, it's cool.

Speaker 4 (02:29:38):
It's not professional.

Speaker 3 (02:29:39):
It's so funny, and I'm glad you you backed that
up because oftentimes the case is people think we make
that up. That is legitimately the truth. He walks around
in capris that are sweatpants.

Speaker 15 (02:29:48):
Yeah, his his sweatpants actually wear his pajamas, so I
recognize the brand.

Speaker 3 (02:29:53):
Nice well, way to go, Way to go. What you
look really sharp. It's good to have you here. We're
going to have you here for the rest of the afternoon,
which is very exciting. So again, I know you have
a lot of thoughts on the Broncos draft. Let me
update people on some of the players that have come
off the board since we went to break there at
the top of the hour. So we're in round five
right now. Francisco Muago Waga sorry, out of Miami linebacker,

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he goes to the Jets. Mandan linebacker from Georgia. He
went to the Eagles. Cygle safety out of Kansas State
going to the forty nine ers, and we mentioned Colin
Oliver before the break linebacker Okie State. He went to
the Packers. So we have the Panthers that picked Wooden
sixty three. We're about thirty or so picks away from

(02:30:38):
the Broncos selection in Round six, so I haven't had
a chance to get your thoughts underneath the draft. Let's
start at the top, man, what'd you think about Joe
A barn You.

Speaker 15 (02:30:46):
Know, I think it's the shock of the draft, arguably
at least as far as Denver's concerned. But I think
it was one of the most shocking picks of the
first round overall. You know, I remember saying to Ben
in one of our NFL six packs, you know they're
not going to go quarterback in the first round, and
they're not going to go corner, and he helped me up.

Speaker 5 (02:31:01):
He was like, I think it might be more likely
than receiver, and we saw that play out.

Speaker 15 (02:31:06):
I think he's I think the best thing about him
is he's going to allow you always get your five
best defensive backs on the field, or four best if
you're in base defense. You know, he can play in
the nickel and I think that's where he's at his best.
But you get in base he can bump out wide
and maybe you know, take Riley Moss off the field
in those settings. You could also, if you prefer, put
him back at safety, keep Riley Moss on the field

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and bump talanoa Hufanga into that linebacker spot where you
know there's maybe some depth questions now, So I think
he allows you a lot of flexibility in defense.

Speaker 5 (02:31:35):
He's an incredibly smart player.

Speaker 15 (02:31:37):
And then you know, I knew something about the kid himself,
just you know, hearing he's smart and instinctive, and you see.

Speaker 5 (02:31:44):
It on the tape.

Speaker 15 (02:31:45):
But every public appearance I see, and whether it's interviewing
with Dave or hopping on right after the pick with
you guys, or his press conference here, it's been remarkable.
He's he's one of the most amazing I think draft
prospects from a human standpoint I've ever heard speak tremendous.

Speaker 3 (02:32:03):
And again, there's a bit of a theme for these
draft picks, mature captains. You'll hear that wor those words
used a lot, sort of describing every single one, even
Kee Robinson, who they just took, who's going to be
probably a core special teams player. That feels like a
Darren Rizzy kind of pick.

Speaker 5 (02:32:18):
Anyways, plus the developmental guy that you can use at edge.

Speaker 3 (02:32:20):
Yeah, I mean, listen, I think it becomes down to
a conversation about BPA, a conversation about value in the draft.
The Broncos did have an offer to move back. The
Giants had to talk to them at pick number twenty
about training back, but it was too much to pass
up to take Baron. And once again, I think that
we get sort of stuck on this because some people

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will say, well, no, you got to go best player
available at a position of need. And I think that
sometimes that we over I guess we overdo that, right,
I think we overcomplicate that process. You just take good
football players. Like in the end, you just take good
football players and you're gonna find your self in a
position as being a good football team. The Eagles do

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it all the time. The Ravens do it all the time,
The Steelers do it all the time. These are perennial
playoff teams. The Broncos want to put themselves in that position.
And I love that George Payton came out on Night
one and say it's a premium position. You know, people
would say, well, your your secondaries is really good, but
you can always be better. Your defensive line is good.
You brought back DJ Jones, you can always be better.
They added defensive line. Help. Are you trying to tell

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me the people out there that are saying, oh, you
can only take positions of need that you wouldn't have
taken a defensive lineman, even knowing the team that just
won a super Bowl in the Philadelphia Eagles have shown
you the blueprint to continue to invest in the trenches.

Speaker 15 (02:33:36):
Yeah, and the Eagles also show you draft best player available.
You know, these past couple of years. Barkley not a
draft pick, but that's signing the best player available, giving
him a lucrative extension. Of course, John Campbell, that's not
a premium position. They're going there in the first round.
Cooper dejen and Nicol Hill on that same John a
barn thing not necessarily a premium position, but they go,

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this is an awesome player who can do so much,
too much for us. He's a premium talent. And I
think the best drafters in the league go BPA regardless
of those team needs. I think of the Ravens, I
think of the Eagles as the foremost examples of that.
Steelers and Packers also stand out to me. And the
thing all four of those franchises have is incredible organizational stability.
If you're the head coach or the GM of one

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of those franchises, Eagles and Ravens again, going to those
two examples, those gms know.

Speaker 5 (02:34:25):
I don't have to fill this need right away.

Speaker 15 (02:34:28):
You know, I'm not going to get fired if we
have this whole running back for a year, because I've
got that job security and we can build this thing
the right way and select the right talents and not
reach for a need. The giants don't have that luxury
right They're coaching for their jobs right now. They have
to maybe reach on to Jackson Dart because that's the
only way they stay around. And number one priority in
the NFL is keep your job. So I think this

(02:34:49):
points to organizational stability I like to see in good
omen for the future.

Speaker 3 (02:34:53):
I completely agree Zach Seeger's joining us here on our
NFL draft coverage line from Broncos Park Power by Common Spirit.
About the other side of that coy missing out on
Amarion Hampton, missing out on Trevon Henderson, missing out on
maybe a Matthew Golden there, let's talk about the other
side of that thing. What was your reaction to that.

Speaker 5 (02:35:11):
I'm fine with it because I think Baron's just maybe
not Hampton.

Speaker 15 (02:35:14):
I might have gone Hampton, but the other two I
think he's just multiple tiers above them.

Speaker 5 (02:35:19):
As a player, I think he's a top ten talent.

Speaker 15 (02:35:21):
Hampton I would have really liked personally, but I can
understand them passing on him. Sean Payton has hammered it
into us all off season, you know, the dreaded J word.
He wants that at that either running back tight end
position to you don't even want to say it. I
know Broncos Country cringes at it.

Speaker 5 (02:35:37):
Now I'm careful. I'll call it the Jack Nicholson roll,
you know.

Speaker 15 (02:35:42):
But I think that's something we know they've wanted and prioritize.
And Hampton, although I think he's an underrated pass catcher,
he's never going to be a dynamic route runner. You're
going to hit him, you know, in the flat on
like swing routes on screens, and so I get them.

Speaker 3 (02:35:58):
Doesn't have the quicks that Henderson has.

Speaker 5 (02:36:00):
RJ.

Speaker 15 (02:36:00):
Harvey has, no I think the only guy in this
draft that would have, you know, fixed their running back
room single handedly would have been like Ashton, gent with
what he brings you as a receiver and as a runner.
And once that guy goes off the board, you know,
do I want to spend a top twenty pick on
a running back that solves seventy percent of the problem,
when I can wait forty picks and get a guy
that solves sixty sixty five percent of the problem for me.

Speaker 3 (02:36:24):
Underrated point. I love that. Sorry men, interruption, but that's
such an underrated point that you brought up. There was
really only one running back that solves all of those things.
Every other running back and that's just to say almost
any prospect has some upsides and some downsides. But to
that point, you were not going to probably find another
three down back that could also be a receiver out

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of the backfield as effectively as Chancey.

Speaker 15 (02:36:46):
The one thing Henderson gives you that r. J. Harvey
doesn't is past protection, and that matters. You know, you've
just done a quarterback you want to at his development.

Speaker 5 (02:36:54):
Does that matter?

Speaker 15 (02:36:55):
You know, forty picks plus all the extra value they
accumulated by being able to trade back for RJ. Harvey
from that fifty one position, I really don't think the
past protection is that valuable. When you also consider the
advantages r. J. Harvey has in his favor, he is
I think much better in terms of his vision. I've
seen Broncos Country highlighting the ACL he had in ACL

(02:37:16):
tear he had in twenty twenty one. Not some concern
it's an ACL tear, but that's also preceded his entire collegiate.

Speaker 3 (02:37:22):
Career, and look at the production he's had since then.

Speaker 15 (02:37:25):
Exactly everything you like about RJ. Harvey as a prospect
is a post ACL player. There's no question about, well,
will we be the same guy after this or anything.
Traveon Henderson had five broken bones in his foot last year.
You know, it's backs and feet that you struggle to
come back from acls, and you know twenty twenty five
it was one thing in two thousand and five.

Speaker 5 (02:37:45):
In twenty twenty five, guys bounce back from that very regularly,
and we've seen RJ. Harvey do so.

Speaker 15 (02:37:50):
So I think you have better injury problems or lesser
injury problems, better vision, and really the only thing you're
giving up for it is path protection and you've got
him forty picks later.

Speaker 5 (02:38:01):
I think it's an absolutely fantastic pick on.

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the picks and we'll give you the latest through round five.
This one, Hampton would have been a two plays per
drive player. Baron is a four play per drive player.
That's an interesting way to look at that. And once again,
I mean, Hampton profiles is a three down back, so

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I slightly disagree about a two D two plays for drive.
I do think that he was as close to besides
Ashton Jenny, a complete guy, but once again one reason
and the Rocos clearly felt the same way because they
said they weren't eyeing any running back there at twenty.

Speaker 5 (02:38:42):
Everybody else was more of a trade back candidate.

Speaker 3 (02:38:45):
He's straight line speed, impressive side to side.

Speaker 5 (02:38:50):
It's not there.

Speaker 3 (02:38:51):
And again it's not to say that that's the worst
thing in the world. He obviously does a lot of
really good things. I love his vision. Hampton's vision is tremendous.
But again, what you're looking for and what you need.
And once again, they still have running backs on this roster.
And the next question asking if the Broncos might consider
adding a veteran running back like JK. Dobbins, Nick Chubb,

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or maybe even doing a trade for Bresaw.

Speaker 4 (02:39:15):
I mean, Ben was on just a little bit of
go saying that's exactly what he thinks the Broncos will
be looking into after the draft.

Speaker 5 (02:39:21):
I think they should.

Speaker 15 (02:39:22):
You're not fixing that pass protection problem or you're not
filling that need necessarily with the guys they currently have
on the roster unless estimate takes a big leap in
that regard, and I don't think you can feel great
about it.

Speaker 4 (02:39:33):
Ooh, that's a.

Speaker 3 (02:39:34):
Hard Aronde Gatson just went Syracuse. Tight end went to
the Chargers. That was a sort of a fallback option
there for the Broncos, well at least from our perspective.
But once again, and this is something we'll come back
to this conversation, but this is something that I know
you'll appreciate because I think we can have a multiple
things being true conversation when it comes to drafts and

(02:39:56):
what fans want versus what the team is looking at.
Right I tweeted out when Gunnerhilm went, I said, hey, bummer,
you know the Broncos missed out on this. The other
players traveon Henderson went a kind of a bummer and
they say, yeah, the whole draft is a bummer, and
it's like, no, I mean, it doesn't have to be that.
It could be a bummer that you liked the player
that didn't get picked up, but you can also be
very excited or look forward to how the Broncos are

(02:40:18):
going to use the guys that.

Speaker 5 (02:40:18):
You did get.

Speaker 15 (02:40:19):
Yeah, I think draft is typically hope season. I've been
a little surprised by the negative negativity. Frankly, you know,
they were Fambas was really high on Henderson at twenty.
You get a guy who gives you, in my opinion,
ninety ninety five percent of what Henderson gives you forty
picks later, and people are furious about it.

Speaker 5 (02:40:35):
So, yeah, the negative, They just don't know who he
is exactly. And I think that's what it is.

Speaker 15 (02:40:40):
You've learned so much about these guys that are projected,
you know, top twenty, top thirty picks, and so we
always see a handful of those guys fall every year.
Marcus Mbo being a good example of like and I
really liked him as a player, But that's the guy
everyone circling because that's one of the few names left
we recognize.

Speaker 3 (02:40:57):
Tory Horton just wins oh no, oh.

Speaker 5 (02:41:00):
I loved him. He was like one of my favorite players.

Speaker 3 (02:41:02):
Tory Horton went to the Seahawks here at pick one
sixty six. So back to back heartbreakers Gaston and then
Horton going off the board, Gason going into Vision, which
is even worse. But yeah, good for Tory Horton. I
hope he finds success up there with the seatle Seahawks.

Speaker 4 (02:41:17):
Yeah, they've had a great draft so far.

Speaker 15 (02:41:18):
And then two picks before Gats, then you have Mitchell
Evans going to the Panthers.

Speaker 5 (02:41:22):
He would have been an interesting you know, if you
wanted to maybe get that.

Speaker 15 (02:41:26):
Plan for after Troutman maybe eventually leads or a future
development plan. A good blocking tight end, good inline guy
gives you a little receiving something. One of the better
tight ends left Broncos could have still maybe used to
pick there. So so both those guys coming off the
board hurts.

Speaker 3 (02:41:39):
But this is one of the reasons why you filled
gaps and needs in free agency. Why I have a
named ingram is here right, and you know, maybe they
after their eyes set on a college free agent tight end.
I mean they've they've found some success there. Lucas Croll
is coming back, I mean he's going to be back here.
Troutman is going to be back as you mentioned, So
it's not like the room was bereft of talent, just

(02:42:00):
to say, hey, you want to continue to stock pile
development and that's that's what usually are doing in day three.

Speaker 15 (02:42:06):
Yeah, Thomas Faedon the second is out out in Rasco.
Is still an interesting option. Luke Blockley out of Iowa.
They always produced great, great tight ends. I think you
do and something that I think would be interesting because
they really need that blocking presence at tight end right now.
I think Adkins and Troutman are fine there, but I
think they're just fine. They're acceptable. Jackson Hawes out of
Georgia text still available. Like him, he could be a
difference maker as a blocker and kind of give you

(02:42:28):
that ruggedness, ruggedness at the position, extra blocking ability that
Evan Ingram and a lot of those other guys really
just won't.

Speaker 3 (02:42:34):
I we're rolling here through round five of the twenty
twenty five INFL draft. Zach seekers hanging out with me
here on day three as we are live from Broncos Park.
Power by Common Spirit will come back. We'll keep kind
of rolling through not only the draft but also what
the Broncos have accomplished. They definitely want to get your
thoughts on what they did last night. Zach, I know
you were high on one player in particular. We'll explain

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Live for Broncos Park powered by Common Spirit. Day three
of the twenty twenty five NFL Draft rolls on Ryan Edwards,
Zack Seger's been all bright. We'll be back list here
in a matter of moments. Just taking a beat to
get a breath. You know he's a certain age he
needs it. We got to pick one to sixty seven.
Jackson Slater, Sacramento States interior offensive lineman going there, Drew

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Kendall Center from Boston College. It had been interesting if
he slipped a little bit, but he goes to the Eagles,
who continue to just always add to the trenches. Once again, hint, hint,
good teams do these things. Za Frasier cornerback at a
Utsa there for the Bears, and Jordan Hancock cornerback at
Ohio State, who I think has more players than any

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other school at this point drafted when you're in the champs,
that makes sense. He goes to the Buffalo Bills, who
can always use more help in the secondary. Got pick
one seventy one with the Patriots coming up here and
just five more picks after that until we're onto the
sixth round.

Speaker 5 (02:44:31):
Here's Zach.

Speaker 15 (02:44:32):
Yeah, I'm excited to see what the Broncos do. The
picks are counting down, and you were just talking about
investing in the trenches. I think there's a lot of
exciting offensive line talent in particular still left on the board.
I didn't expect to be talking developmental tackle late on
Day three, just because those guys are so coveted, and
I didn't think there were that many in the draft
that I really really liked. But you know, Garrett Bulls,

(02:44:54):
even with his extension, he's getting up there Mike mcglinche's
contract is coming up. They still haven't drafted a tackle
on the George Payton era. I think this would be
a great time to maybe infuse that room with some
young talent. There's some great guys falling, even if they
wanted to get on the interior and maybe get some
insurance for Luke Wattenberg entering a contract year. Some really
great guards and centers falling. So I think there's a

(02:45:15):
good chance there's a great player on the board when
they pick.

Speaker 3 (02:45:17):
Yeah, as we get a little closer to that pick,
we'll definitely identify what is available. A couple more text
here on the Kai Commas Spirit Health text line five
six six nine zero. Joe Marino and Kyle krab stayed
all the time, just draft good players. The Broncos have
done that to each of these picks, except for Q,
have shown to be good football players and shown growth
over their college careers. I push back a little bit
on that is because I think Q actually has shown growth,

(02:45:39):
especially this last year at Alabama. You know, he's a
limit time player. I think he started a total of
five games, but he got five sacks in that process
and racked up a bunch of pressures. In the meantime,
he's looked as a guy that is developmental. No, there's
no denying that fact. He's going to be a developmental player.
But you know, I don't know, man. I look at

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that pick and I think about more of long term
on as an edge, and then the fact that you
already got a guy that can that can help you
your one is good.

Speaker 15 (02:46:13):
Yeah, I would disagree. I think he is a disagree
with the comment. To be clear, I think he is
a good football player already. I mean Nick Saban, who
has to be one of the most respected foot period
any level, any era, thinks this is the best special
teams player he's ever coached.

Speaker 5 (02:46:30):
And he's had a lot of them.

Speaker 15 (02:46:31):
I mean, Alabama's had no problem producing first round talents
who spent you know, their first two years in the
program playing special teams, and that's where this guy stood out.
I think you have to have high character too, you know,
come in as a four or five star recruit and go, hey,
this is how I'm going to make my way on
Alabama's roster, and I'm going to stick here, even in
the air of the transfer portal.

Speaker 5 (02:46:50):
I'm gonna stick here.

Speaker 15 (02:46:51):
For multiple seasons wait for my opportunity to finally come along.
It came, and you know, he did well in that
spot when he finally got it. He hasn't proven a
ton on defense, but at this stage in the draft,
you're not going to find edges with his traits that
are proven products, are are fully built commodities, and you know,

(02:47:13):
it's a bit of a swing for the fences, but
I think it also has a pretty high floor because
at the least he's going to be a pretty valuable
special teams contributor.

Speaker 3 (02:47:21):
Tory Horne and the Seahawks. Ted's probably coming up soon.
We'll see, we'll see. I do think that his height,
weight and speed will probably impact him sliding a little
bit longer.

Speaker 15 (02:47:32):
He's a guy where you know, how much do you
trust the film because the film is like he is
easily separating from guys. Even at the Senior Bowl, he
stood out because he was just making guys look foolish
with how quickly he could separate from them, how open
he could get. And that's you know, maybe the number
one the most valuable thing you look for in a receiver.
I think even last year, if you watch when bo

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Nick's Troy, Franklin, and Tes were all in that Oregon roster.

Speaker 3 (02:47:58):
Tes was the better of the two.

Speaker 15 (02:48:00):
Weapons are the more impactful one, So in that regard
it it seems appealing, but he is a negative outlier
in a lot of different ways. That makes you scared
to take that gamble. It's a bit of a Brice
Young situation.

Speaker 3 (02:48:14):
That's an interesting text here. It's a very different vibe
than last couple drafts. Mims and Sanders a couple of
years ago, exciting bo last year, a new hope moving
up for Franklin. This year is literally watching our favorite
players flying off the board outside of the first round.
Kind of head scratcher moves in deep positions. An inside linebacker,
thin and unknown, running back still thin and ridiculously unknown,

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tight end one injury from back to the worst tight
end room in the league. It'll probably work out and
be a good draft, but a very different vibe this
year than the last four to five.

Speaker 15 (02:48:44):
What do you say to that, Zach, I mean, I
think there's some truth to that. There are still some
depth concerns around the roster, but we should remember last year,
with such a surprise this team was I think the
roster was better than expected. They outperformed expectations in large
part because of the talent outperforming expectation. But they were
ranked as you know, the thirty, a thirty, first, thirty,
second roster whatever for a reason, and a lot of

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players stepped up that helped things look a lot better.

Speaker 3 (02:49:09):
But they still have I think a lot of death concerns.

Speaker 15 (02:49:11):
I think just about every position on the roster in
some way, shape or form, has some depth concerns, has
some planning for the future concerns or immediate you know
you need to fill this now concerns. So how much
they tore this thing down at the start of the
Sean Payne era, You're not going to turn everything around
in one draft or two drafts. I think twenty twenty
six has always been like the year you're shooting for

(02:49:33):
as a really high end contender. But I think this
draft is another good step forward. Jouday Baron can take
this defense to new heights, even as good as they
were last year. I think that's incredibly valuable, and I
think the weapons are being slept on a bit. I'm
not the biggest Pat Bryant fan, but he could you
look at some of the stuff with him He's a
better contested catch receiver than Ted McMillan or Jayden Higgins,

(02:49:55):
who go much earlier in the draft. He could be
that long term Portland Siddon replacement. And oftentimes you don't
want to be drafting for immediate need. You want to
be drafting for the future. Fans might be upset about
that pick now, but Courtland Sutton leaves in free agency
next year. You got a guy you feel confident plugging
in and right into that role in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 5 (02:50:12):
Fans are going to be so mad about it. Then.

Speaker 3 (02:50:14):
I think that's perfectly sad man.

Speaker 4 (02:50:15):
That's just really well said, And you're right, there's there's
mixing the immediate need of players, and Baron can help
right away. We talked about Keate Robinson can help on
special teams right away. I think Zaban Jones is one
of those that will immediately be in a rotation, but
might be your replacement for JFM as soon as next
year because he's in a contract year.

Speaker 3 (02:50:36):
And like I said, for Pat Bryant, you did a
little bit of a deep dive on him. I wanted
to get to that because I thought you put out
a really good thread this morning. On it and what's
the things I appreciate about you? And one of the
things we do here on our shows in this station
is more interested in the why, right, because I think
it's easy sometimes to the textures point when it's like, well,

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we cover a lot of these names in the draft,
but it doesn't necessarily mean the Broncos see those names
as priorities like we do. So when they don't and
they take different players than ones that we've been talking
about now for the last several months, I'm not going
to get bent out of shape by the fact that
they didn't take the guy that I loved, I'm going
to try to explain why they ended up taking him.
So you went into a deep dive on Pat Bryant.

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What'd you find?

Speaker 5 (02:51:22):
Yeah, well I was curious just after watching him.

Speaker 15 (02:51:24):
He wasn't my favorite guy to watch, and so I
started just pulling up some stats this morning and trying
to see, you know, what is this guy maybe really
thrived in And I think his statistical profile is a
lot more impressive than his physical one. And you know,
he's a guy who's getting the job done at a
frankly elite level despite not maybe having elite physical.

Speaker 5 (02:51:44):
Gifts, they might not look at the Jokic type, you.

Speaker 15 (02:51:46):
Know, like getting the job done at a very high
level might not look the prettiest as he's doing it,
you know, the tenth among one hundred. All of these
rates or ranks are out of one hundred and fifty
six qualifying receivers, so casting a wide net here, he's
tenth among all players in contested catch rate, ahead of
a Tech McMillan, ahead of a Jayden Higgins, and buy

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a wide margin, he came down with seventy percent of
those fifty to fifty balls. Tech McMillan was considered elite
in that faceting, he comes down with sixty percent. Even
in terms of you know, efficiency like yards per route run,
passer rating when targeted, he ranks elite in those categories
as well, he's fifth, and passer rating when targeted, he's
twentieth in yards per route run, so a very efficient,

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reliable target two.

Speaker 5 (02:52:30):
And then the drop rate.

Speaker 15 (02:52:31):
Only Jack Beck out of players that have been drafted
so far, has a better drop rate. And then shoot,
he was second at the time of his being drafted.
He was second in terms of yards after the catch
per reception. So even despite you know the four to
six forty times him being a little bit of a
slender body, he's great at maximizing the physical gifts he

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does have to create after the catch. And what the
four six forty hides is he's got an eightieth percentile
ten yard split. So in those short areas he can
pretty quick. He's not great at redirecting that momentum on
his routes. I think that's something that maybe comes with
time and development. But in open space as a ball carrier,
he's pretty creative. He can stop start pretty well, and

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a physical player as well. He I loved his interview
with you guys. Yeah, and that's the way he plays.
People listen to that interview and you will know a
lot about that Bryant because he plays like he wants
to inflict pain on opposing defensive backs.

Speaker 3 (02:53:25):
Now, those are really cool stats, and I think it's
a lot of the stuff that Sean Payton pointed out
last night as well on why he sort of sees
Michael Thomas and you talk about that short area of quickness,
that was something Michael Thomas right off the line, he'd
win a lot. Now, he's not going to burn you
down the field, but he'd win off the line a lot,
and that's why Drew Brees made him his favorite target.

Speaker 15 (02:53:44):
Yeah, and another guy who was incredible in those contested
catch situations. I think everyone thinks of that as you know,
red zone, down the field jump off, something that Court
has been so great at throughout his career. It's also
those dig routes that Court, you know, does a great
job shielding off defenders with his using that physicality to
create a great strike zone for bow Nicks and you know,

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secure the ball that threw a tough hit over the middle.
And I think those are areas, you know, not just
as a vertical receiver, not just as a red zone target,
though Bryant was very good in those facets too. He's
going to be able to be that slant god type
if that's how the Broncos want to use him, because
he's excellent at using his physical gifts, his wingspan, his
physical strength to you know, knock cornerbacks away, create some

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separation and wall.

Speaker 5 (02:54:27):
Them off from the ball.

Speaker 3 (02:54:28):
Jackson Hawes, we just talked about him off the board
here to the Buffalo Bills tied it off the board.

Speaker 5 (02:54:37):
Here we go, Chris Paul too. I was Bumming.

Speaker 15 (02:54:40):
I know the Texter mentioned lack of linebacker depth. I
was surprised he was still on the board. I thought
he was a great linebacker option. He goes to the Rams,
He'll help them out a lot. Miles Fraser. Man, we're
seeing a lot of the best players that were still
remaining coming off the board here with with Miles Fraser,
Chris Paul Junior, ed Jackson Hawes. But any of those
guys would have been great Broncos. I think there's still
a lot of great op left though.

Speaker 3 (02:55:02):
No, there's still a lot of great options, and the
Broncos are going to find talent. And I really don't
doubt their ability to do that because you think about
it in terms of what they've done when the George
Payton era, They've they've found some diamonds man. I mean
you talk about Jonathan Cooper's the seventh rounder, Devon Bailey
last year as a seventh rounder. They've they've found some
really good deep dive players that have impacted this team.

Speaker 15 (02:55:24):
Oh yeah, And I mean there's some great running backs
still left on the board, Devin Neil, Damien Martinez. I
think both of those guys can be a bit of
the Thunder to r J. Harvey's Lightning. I think they're
really nice complimentary pieces to We talked about r J.
Harvey not fixing one hundred percent or being one hundred
percent of the solution at that position, there's still some

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great guys left who you know, could round that out
and complete that running back room.

Speaker 4 (02:55:49):
For the Broncos.

Speaker 3 (02:55:50):
Five zero O kaa Commas spared health text line. So
you mentioned the Pat Brian interview. Let's get to that
because it really was special last night. And again, all
these interviews are onto band Kwaclorado dot com or on
the completely free and totally awesome iHeartRadio app. Started out
when we got Pat Bryan on, I asked him, how
did it feel when the Broncos gave you that phone

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call just a few minutes ago?

Speaker 13 (02:56:12):
Man, very thrill moment.

Speaker 11 (02:56:13):
Man.

Speaker 13 (02:56:14):
Just know, all the hard work that I put in, Man, even.

Speaker 8 (02:56:16):
Since I first started playing football, has really paid off,
and you know, just reaching my dreams and get to
the next level. Only thing on my mind right now
is just you know, I'm ready to get the Denver
man and just put work in and help the team win.

Speaker 4 (02:56:27):
Pat, if I'm not mistaken, did your brother play linebacker
at South Florida.

Speaker 11 (02:56:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (02:56:33):
So my brother's brother played linebacker at the University of
South Florida.

Speaker 4 (02:56:37):
Okay, yeah, I was to say, what was it like
coming up having a brother playing the other side of
the ball that helped prepare you on the offensive side
to come out here and get ready to play for
the Denver Broncos.

Speaker 8 (02:56:46):
I mean it's very special.

Speaker 13 (02:56:47):
Man.

Speaker 8 (02:56:47):
I grew up with all older brothers, so you know,
we put we horse played a lot many They turned
me into a man very very early, but just growing
up watching them play ball, man, I kind of always
knew that, you know, growing up one day that I
had that football in my hand. Playing in the National Football.

Speaker 11 (02:56:59):
Leagu pat put me in that frame of mind being
a wide receiver, because I mean, as tall as you are,
obviously everyone talks about.

Speaker 5 (02:57:08):
The fifty to fifty balls.

Speaker 11 (02:57:10):
What is it like to possess that mentality as a
wide receiver being aggressive, saying that every ball that's thrown
in my direction, it's mine.

Speaker 5 (02:57:18):
What goes into that type of mentality, I.

Speaker 8 (02:57:21):
Mean, that's kind of how I grew up.

Speaker 12 (02:57:22):
Man.

Speaker 8 (02:57:22):
My father always told me that I'm better than a
man in front of me, and when the ball in
the air is mon So really just using my size
and physicality, you know, to dominate, dominate DB's on the ads. Man,
my main focus. When it's not even really fifty fifty
balls when they come to me, it's more ninety to ten.
So really, just when I got here as mon so
when it goes up, I'm for sure to come down

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with it.

Speaker 5 (02:57:45):
I love that Pat Bryant joining us newest dever Bronco.

Speaker 3 (02:57:48):
You hat fifty four catches, nine or eighty four yards
this last year, ten touchdowns. Boy, you just had a
breakout season. What do you attribute that to?

Speaker 13 (02:57:59):
Man?

Speaker 5 (02:57:59):
Really, just my all the.

Speaker 8 (02:58:00):
Hard work I put in. Man, just staying dedicated to
Illinois for four years. Man, plenty of times I could
have jumped in the portal when things aren't going my way.
But man, just the type of guy I am, and
the loyalty that I have for that program, and man,
just trusting in my coaches and my training and just
you know, going out there and balling like it's my
last Saturday.

Speaker 13 (02:58:14):
Managers, you know, leaving it all on the field.

Speaker 8 (02:58:16):
My main focus was coming to Illinois just to help
turn the program around. I feel like I did a
great job.

Speaker 2 (02:58:20):
Of that job.

Speaker 5 (02:58:22):
Well, was your last Saturday.

Speaker 4 (02:58:23):
NFL plays on Sundays, although yes we had Saturday games
now late in the season, so uh that works out.

Speaker 5 (02:58:29):
You know, it's just went through this process.

Speaker 4 (02:58:32):
What was the most enjoyable part of this process from
the Senior Bowl of Combat the proty, It was the
most enjoyable part of that process for you.

Speaker 8 (02:58:40):
Probably just you know, just interacting with other athletes, you
know that's going through the same exact process, managers, sharing
our stories, managers, you know, having a good time because
you know it's a once in lifetime themes. So just
to joining it all man, seeing guys that you know
I kind of watched, you know, on Saturdays, watch them
ball out, guys I trained with, you know, throughout Combine
training down there for a lot of that like Bama Ritos,
and just watching those guys even get jobted that day

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was very very special. So really just you know, meeting
new people man, not only that, but the coaches as well,
and just talking ball and just you know, standing around
it by the game that I love.

Speaker 11 (02:59:09):
I love you know, Pat, just sitting here listening to
you talk about this moment and all the work that
goes in. I can tell that you are really passionate
about what you do and what you will be doing
for the Broncos. But the Broncos embarking on and I
guess a new m A and that's running the ball.
And here in Broncos Country rod Smith and McCaffrey, these

(02:59:31):
are two guys who were known for being physical.

Speaker 5 (02:59:34):
Blockers on a perimeter.

Speaker 11 (02:59:35):
Let Broncos Country know right now that type of mentality
that you have when it comes to blocking it on
the edge. And the reason I say that because most
wide receivers want to catch the.

Speaker 5 (02:59:45):
Ball, not too many want to block.

Speaker 11 (02:59:47):
But watching you, you're a willing blocker and you're one
of those guys who are going to pull you all
into it. So explain the fans who are listening how
important it is not just received balls, but just kind
of block blocking on the edge, and it's helping expand
the run game.

Speaker 8 (03:00:02):
I mean, my man, my model was always you know,
no block, no rock. But not only that, man, it's
not taking no plays off. I like to you know,
I like to play bully ball, you know, I like this.
I like to be on a dB all game. Loan
will never give them a break. So really, just you know,
helping in that run game shows what kind of player
I am, what kind of team that I am. Not
only you don't want to make big plays, but I
want to help my teammate make bit plays as well.
And you know I love to put dbs in the dirt,

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especially when it's blocking.

Speaker 3 (03:00:25):
That's great, all right, Last one for you, really I
grew up.

Speaker 5 (03:00:29):
I dig it.

Speaker 13 (03:00:30):
Man.

Speaker 5 (03:00:30):
No, that's awesome.

Speaker 3 (03:00:31):
But that's gonna that's gonna fit in really well here.
It plays well with me, That's gonna fit it really
well here. Last what I have for you, man? Your
name team, your name team captain this year and that's
something the Broncos continue to really focus in on.

Speaker 13 (03:00:42):
Here.

Speaker 5 (03:00:43):
They added the first round, picking Baron as a team captain. RJ.

Speaker 3 (03:00:46):
Harvey moment ago a team captain and now you as
a team captain. What does it mean for you this
year to have Illinois, who you again invested in four years,
to name you a team captain?

Speaker 5 (03:00:55):
What does that mean to you?

Speaker 8 (03:00:57):
I mean it was very very special man, just having
my guy, you know, believe in me as a as
a leader of that team to lead us to succession
in such a great season that we had this year.
But it's also a testament to you know, all the
hard work and all the loyalty that I put into
the program.

Speaker 11 (03:01:10):
Man.

Speaker 8 (03:01:10):
It's just just being that voice for the team, you know,
when we when we face diversity. I was the guy
to pick the team up when we needed a big play.
I was a guy to make that big play. So
it really it started it, you know in some workouts, man,
just pushing guys, man, and just set in that standard.
I even went back during during springball. This is just
to make sure you know, the standard was still hot.
So really, just those guys having that faith in me, man,
and just just being that voice of the team and

(03:01:32):
the guy that you know, helped swing the games and
just you know, lead us to success.

Speaker 3 (03:01:36):
Pat, we are so excited you're a Denver Bronco. I
can't wait to meet you. Congratulations and welcome to the Broncos.

Speaker 1 (03:01:43):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 4 (03:01:45):
I appreciate it all right, Pat Bryant's what a fun
interview that is with Pat Bryant.

Speaker 5 (03:01:52):
What is it? No block, no block, no rock, no block,
no rock.

Speaker 3 (03:01:56):
And I get T shirts. Yeah, I gotta get T.

Speaker 5 (03:01:58):
Shirts for that.

Speaker 15 (03:01:59):
That's perfect And I love another team captain. Like you said, character.
One thing he else highlighted there in regards to the blocking,
how he loved creating plays for his teammates too, not
just making them himself.

Speaker 5 (03:02:10):
And I think that's, uh, that's the thing you love
to see.

Speaker 3 (03:02:13):
Boy, those stats were really amazing. And again, Zach underscore
seegers on Twitter. You put all that up there because
the stats on Pat Bryant because I think that right there,
and I hesitate to say controversial because it feels too strong,
but that right there's probably the most controversial pick for
the Broncos so far. Would you agree, Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 15 (03:02:32):
You know, the consensus sports I think had him one
fifty one seventy or so. So by that metric, it's
a pretty big reach. And I get the pushback.

Speaker 3 (03:02:40):
I just think any other wide receivers that were available
in that.

Speaker 15 (03:02:43):
Range, certainly like Jalen Royles was a guy I had
it rated high, definitely ahead of Pat Bryant.

Speaker 5 (03:02:48):
I do get where they're coming from, though. The X traits.
There aren't many receivers.

Speaker 15 (03:02:51):
In this draft with X traits in any draft, they're
very hard to find. Pat Bryant has them.

Speaker 5 (03:02:56):
You might have a need at that position.

Speaker 15 (03:02:59):
With the Courtlan side the situation is still in flex
right now. Maybe they lock him up long term, maybe
they don't, and then they need an X receiver next year,
and then they're forced to maybe reach on a guy
they otherwise wouldn't have picked. Now you get that insurance option,
you know, on the roster and start learning under Courtland
Sutton and then maybe he's ready to go as a
starter in twenty twenty six if necessary.

Speaker 3 (03:03:18):
Well, and we know the type that Sean likes, right,
I mean, he likes these X receivers. He likes these
guys that are fifty to fifty jump ball guys.

Speaker 4 (03:03:26):
You just said it rre with Courtland Sutton because if
this wasn't the option, you play this ford right with
Courtland Sutton in a contract year.

Speaker 3 (03:03:32):
And maybe they were able to find some kind of
extension keep him. I'm certainly not trying to get Courtland
Sutton off of this roster anytime soon. It's just to
say that you're going to have to find some cost
control players somewhere on this team, especially if you're going
to continue to pay some of the other premium positions
like defensive line or cornerback. You had to pay a

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tight end this year at some point you may have
to pay a running back who knows, but you paid
your offensive line. Your offensive line is the, if not
the most expensive in the NFL is pretty close to it.
So understanding that you really can't have the most expensive
at every position, it just doesn't exist unless you're going
to be the Philadelphia Eagles or the New Orleans Saints
who can kick the can down the road. And maybe
the Broncos are going to be that to a certain extent,

(03:04:14):
but they've had to be very nimble over the last
couple of years because they moved on from Russell Wilson
and they had to eat all that dead cap. So
you paid your offensive line. It's a good place to start.
You're paying guys in the D line. You're paying obviously
top cornerback money to patcherten. Not the top cornerback money,
but top cornerback money. You got to find ways to
cost control at other places. Yeah, and it's smart places

(03:04:34):
to do. So you know they're not looking for, you know,
the Zach Allen replacement in this draft. It's backfilling in
case John Franklin Myers leads, which there's a very good
chance he does. With three defensive linemen coming up on
UFA deals this this offseason. You know, even cornerback, like,
they're fine with ja Quon McGowan and the nickel right now,
but he's going to be a free agent next year.

(03:04:54):
You already have kind of resolved that problem a year
ahead of time. So I think it's just yeah, getting
things ready down the road. All these players need development.

Speaker 15 (03:05:03):
Every college prospect, especially outside the top twenty picks, is
going to need development, is going to need some seasoning.
You're able to take these higher upside swings if you're
drafting them ahead of time and giving them that time
in your program to develop, so you're not just throwing
them to.

Speaker 3 (03:05:18):
The wolves the land Sanderson on the text, Lin says,
will you put up those mock draftable spider charts on
Bryant and Thomas please?

Speaker 5 (03:05:26):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 15 (03:05:28):
He added me on that on Twitter, pointing out that
Michael Thomas and Pat Bryant pretty similar testing athletes. Marcus
Colston tested a little better. But I was just thinking,
you know, you have Sean Payton going back to that
archetype a lot throughout his career and finding a lot
of success with these kind of receivers that fall down
the board. Bigger bodies four or five kind of slower,

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long speed sid it in the short.

Speaker 5 (03:05:50):
Area, good at the catch point.

Speaker 15 (03:05:53):
That's the type he likes, and he knows how to
build a very successful offense around it.

Speaker 3 (03:05:57):
Little text here, great points by Zach ration ability always
translates in the NFL. If you can even be a
decent separator at the college level, you'll be able to
get open in the NFL. Test knows how to do
that and has enough quickness to make the forty time
not monor nearly as much.

Speaker 8 (03:06:14):
Well.

Speaker 3 (03:06:14):
Yeah, and so that's it is trust the tape kind
of conversation when it comes to Tes Johnson, who has
not been drafted just yet, but that's the one we're
going to be watching absolutely.

Speaker 15 (03:06:21):
I do think one thing to note with the smaller receivers,
you see very very little press coverage at the college level,
so there's ways you can that size as much easier
to hide. And you know, going to the pro level,
he might just be a slot only guy because you
do not want to put him in a position, you know,
outside on the line where larger corners can get their
hands on him off the snap, because he doesn't have

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the strength to get off that they can just take
him out of the play, So that is one concern,
but once he's out in the route, he is near unguardable.

Speaker 3 (03:06:51):
Stacy from Utah. Here, guys, got the draft on my
TV on mutes and listening to Ryan Edwards, benjaminal Bright,
Dave Logan, Nick Fergus and Zach Seekers. Thank you for
what you do. Well, thank you really appreciate that. Stacey
for listening and out there in Utah. And yeah, I
mean we're having a blast. This is one of our
favorite times a year. I know you're a big draft
guy as well, Zach, And it's one of those deals

(03:07:14):
where and I said this to Ben, I think yesterday
on the show, and I tweeted out kind of its like,
we go through the pre draft process, we find guys
that are hashtag my guys or guys that we just
we really like, we think would be really fun fits here.
But I actually like the surprise. I like that we
don't know everything you know, and I think it would
be to a certain extent as much as you'd be

(03:07:35):
like high five and if every player that you loved
got drafted. On the other side of it, I do
like the challenge of going back and saying Okay, they
thought higher of this other guy and lower of my
guy with there, maybe there's a reason for that. I
think that that's a good process for all of us
to sort of experience. Yeah, it's not as fun, it's
not as sexy to say, oh, well you got Trevon
Henderson in here and the Broncos nailed this draft and

(03:07:58):
seeing every draft person out there psyched by the Broncos
taking him at twenty. No, we get a chance to
sort of reset.

Speaker 4 (03:08:06):
That conversation and say, Okay, what did they get and
how can that impact them now?

Speaker 15 (03:08:11):
Yeah, I think optimistic skepticism is a good way to
approach the draft. You know things, none of these draft
prospects have their books written in stone. You know, did
Tom Brady sixth round? We see contributors late in the
draft all the time. Devon Valet he was a guy
I remember when he came off the board last year
and I was like, okay, twenty six year old or
twenty five year old wide receiver, he's not making the roster.
And then he is maybe the best rookie outside bow

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Nicks on the team was incredibly impactful this season.

Speaker 5 (03:08:36):
So you just never know.

Speaker 15 (03:08:37):
And so I think it's good to never write anybody's
death warrant the day of the draft. These guys could
all turn around, they could all outperform their expectation. And
it's also not time to do any victory laps. You
could be dead wrong on one of these guys. There's
even some relief when they don't draft one of the
guys you've been pounding the table for, because now Broncos
Country isn't going to be mad at me if Amran

(03:08:57):
Hampton doesn't work out, it is not my problem, you know.
So I it's great you got to learn more about
the prospects and everything, and I do think it tells
you a lot about how they view this team.

Speaker 3 (03:09:08):
Yes, you know, and I think it's a streat point.

Speaker 15 (03:09:10):
You could after last season go, hey, we're pushing our
chips in, We're trading up for Jashon Jenty, We're trying
to win a super Bowl right now. And to the
earlier Texas point, there's still a lot of holes on
this roster. What they're doing, you know, drafting some positions
that aren't maybe needs right now, but getting ready for
a JFM departure or a McMillan departure. That's I think

(03:09:31):
a smarter, slower way to build, but when that's going
to lead to greater sustained success or you being a
high end competitor or contender for a longer time.

Speaker 3 (03:09:38):
If I were into the sixth round, we'll update you
on who was selected. The Broncos do have a pick
here at one ninety seven in the sixth round. If
they stay put, we'll kind of.

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(03:10:54):
George to, uh, basically rub it in your face about
how how off you've been on this this draft. Yeah,
you know, I had to.

Speaker 4 (03:11:03):
Sorry, I had to take the break here. I had
to run upstairs and berate him for letting run a
gas and get to the Chargers.

Speaker 3 (03:11:08):
I know all of our division rivals are having pretty
good drafts.

Speaker 4 (03:11:12):
I just I opened the door and told him to
get their act together. His last pick and then I
can't make that.

Speaker 15 (03:11:17):
I think that interview is going to go great when
Ben tells him that I think all your rivals just
did a much better job than you.

Speaker 5 (03:11:21):
But I do enjoy this pick.

Speaker 3 (03:11:26):
Yeah, go go for their chair.

Speaker 4 (03:11:29):
How do you feel letting the Chargers and chief smoke
in the draft today? I'm kidding, No, I mean, you
know there's station in town that would love to probably
have you instantly hire me if you decided.

Speaker 5 (03:11:38):
To talking like that.

Speaker 15 (03:11:39):
Oh, new trade just came in all right for Dmac.
I guess the sudden positivity.

Speaker 3 (03:11:46):
You know, I honestly I think, uh, that's right.

Speaker 5 (03:11:54):
Let it go.

Speaker 15 (03:11:55):
The squoreball on the brad uh Spielberger, Spielberger the.

Speaker 4 (03:11:59):
Probably I probably ure into the sixth.

Speaker 3 (03:12:02):
Round now as we run, think Tyler Barron enough from Miami.
I'm going to the New York Jets. Moments ago.

Speaker 4 (03:12:10):
Sixth round has begun Dorian's strong cornerback out of Virginia
Tech by all Cone, Western Michigan.

Speaker 3 (03:12:17):
Cornerback, and we got running back Ali Gordon. Now just
going off the board to Miami Dolphins.

Speaker 5 (03:12:22):
Coor does Miami Dolphins take Ali Gordon?

Speaker 4 (03:12:24):
Makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 3 (03:12:25):
Do you have a nil still out there? Though the
dream is still alive.

Speaker 4 (03:12:28):
I don't know that this is gonna be a running
back here, I really don't. I think there's gonna be
enough of them at this point. It looks like free
agency again. I think that when I had a better
voice to the room, you know, whether it's a Dobbins
or a Chubb, and you've got the one pick here.
If you want to multiply it by going back, I
guess you could, but you know, at the end of
the day, I think this probably becomes the tight end pick.

Speaker 15 (03:12:51):
And if that's the way they go, I think it
really speaks to the reports we've heard about their confidence
in adre guests may being true to an extent. R. J.
Harvey compliment him really well. I think they've got complimentary
skill sets.

Speaker 4 (03:13:03):
Well, they do have a they do have a conversation
with Estimate's representation before the draft say hey, we're gonna,
you know, we're gonna kind of give this thing one
more go, you know, if he give the opportunities to
get him motivated and all that kind of stuff. And
I think, you know, at that point we kind of
wrote off the Omari and Hampton portion of it, but
you know, Trevon Henderson or J. Harvey something to back
in that mold made sense. Now you've got Harvey in there,

(03:13:25):
certainly makes sense. And like I said, I think they
could add a veteran voice to that room, which I
think you need to that many young guys, but I'm
not sure that that's a priority here.

Speaker 5 (03:13:34):
At the end of the draft, he'll just select a
Cobb Cord. Are you got my guy? Yep.

Speaker 3 (03:13:38):
I was just gonna say, you got to be pretty
excited about that.

Speaker 15 (03:13:41):
Yeah, Jayalen hurts, but to watch out that quarter about
crowded in terms of backups. They traded for dtr and
the Kenny Pickett thing, and then I really liked what
Tanner McKee showed in those those weird games at.

Speaker 5 (03:13:51):
The end of the season too. I just avoid anything
nam McKee.

Speaker 3 (03:13:56):
When you were talking about short Sanders a moment ago,
I wanted to ask you, what do you what do
you think about his opportunity there in Cleveland? We have
five quarterbacks on the roster.

Speaker 4 (03:14:06):
Well one of those doesn't belong here, but the other
four it's gonna be interesting me in Flacco, you you
understand what you're getting there, but you understand what you're
not getting there too, in terms of how old he
is and uh and what he's able to do.

Speaker 3 (03:14:19):
Uh. Pickett, that's kind of a wild card.

Speaker 4 (03:14:21):
I mean, it's a reclamation project there a little bit,
and you're kind of wondering, Okay, can we turn this
into something?

Speaker 5 (03:14:27):
Yeah? Honestly or kind of has the road paved for him?

Speaker 4 (03:14:30):
For QB two?

Speaker 3 (03:14:30):
I would suggest that Flak was probably.

Speaker 5 (03:14:32):
QB one there.

Speaker 3 (03:14:33):
Dylan Gabriel, I wouldn't have impressed with his tape.

Speaker 5 (03:14:35):
I I border line up, but he's drafted ahead of
what he was.

Speaker 3 (03:14:38):
I mean, like, look, Kevin Stefanski's opinion disagreed with mine.

Speaker 5 (03:14:41):
Fine.

Speaker 4 (03:14:42):
I stood literally right next to Kevin Stebanski, is my
right shoulder touching his left shoulder at the Colorado Pro Day, uh,
in between him and Sean Payton. As we watched the
wonder you're confused the quarterback? Yeah, I know, as we
watched the quarterbacks throw and yeah, I mean he did
not seem as in game aged and that.

Speaker 3 (03:15:00):
Throwing session is perhaps you would expect.

Speaker 4 (03:15:03):
I think we've all seen the reaction video after Shador
was drafted, Andrew Berry and keV STEFASKI look at somebody
just stole their dog. But I mean, at the end
of the day, whatever else you think of, whatever else
is going on, I think that he's probably the better
player than Dylan Gabriel and Kenny Pickett, and should, in theory,
be able to win that QB two job, maybe QB.

Speaker 5 (03:15:25):
One job if Blacko didn't have anything in the tank anymore.

Speaker 15 (03:15:28):
Yeah, I think this honestly worked out well for him.
Dylan Gabriel is going to kind of keep him on
the straight and arrow. You can't just with the reports
about his meetings coming out. Todd mcsha had a report
that maybe he, you know, kind of phoned it in
in terms of the prep for one.

Speaker 5 (03:15:42):
Of his in person visits.

Speaker 15 (03:15:44):
You're not going to be able to do that in
Cleveland because they just drafted another rookie.

Speaker 5 (03:15:47):
If you phone it in.

Speaker 15 (03:15:49):
Although I'm not a Dylan Gabriel fan either, They'll just
keep him on the roster and let Shador walk. I
think he's going to be kind of forced to be
his best self, and if he's his best, could be
a much.

Speaker 5 (03:16:00):
Better quarterback than Gabriel.

Speaker 4 (03:16:02):
Yeah, I mean, it matters where you're drafted, But now
it doesn't matter where you're drafted.

Speaker 5 (03:16:05):
You just got to go out there and do the work.
And that's that's the next thing on there is that
it does.

Speaker 4 (03:16:09):
All the other peripheral tangential, all that stuff no longer matters.

Speaker 5 (03:16:13):
You're in the organization. Now you got to go out
and beat these other guys.

Speaker 3 (03:16:16):
Are rolling through the sixth round here, the Patriots are
selecting at one eighty two. Now that Kyle mc quarters
off the board from Syracuse at one eighty one, the
Broncos are at one ninety seven here, so we'll take
a quick break here at the top of the hour
and sort of re rack things, maybe.

Speaker 5 (03:16:31):
Look ahead a bit to what the Broncos might be
eyeing here.

Speaker 3 (03:16:34):
And once again, Ben, you've been saying for a while
you think the Broncos are likely to want to split
this pick and end up drafting two more players before
we're out of here. So we'll see if they end
up doing that to the tango, but I think they'd
like to, yeah, So we'll see if they end up
doing that. But we'll come back here after news and
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(03:18:56):
oh yeah, there you go. Okay, go ahead and read.

Speaker 4 (03:18:58):
That and uh, March thirteenth, excuse me, I just lost
it there. March thirteenth of twenty eighteen, Coach Prime tweeted
out of love with the Browns have done this offseason.
But if I'm a young quarterback, ain't no way I'm
going to Cleveland. I would pull an Elion Manning hashtag.
Think about that hashtag truth. Oh boy, the hole takes exposed.

Speaker 3 (03:19:19):
Well maybe that's why Andrew Berry and Kevin Stefanski clapping
and like, oh my god, I can't believe we're doing this.

Speaker 5 (03:19:25):
Yeah, this really is the best we could do. We're
so happy.

Speaker 15 (03:19:29):
So he has made him choose a quarterback they didn't
want again after the Deshaun Watson disaster. I would I
mean I'd be living if I was Andrew Barry and
Kevin Stefanski.

Speaker 4 (03:19:37):
Yeah, yeah, you already had Johnny Manziela and Deshaun Watson.

Speaker 5 (03:19:40):
You're good.

Speaker 4 (03:19:40):
You could sit down for a while, then put the
fries in the bag, put the chicken tenders in the
bag with the honey mustard.

Speaker 3 (03:19:47):
Marcus Harris cornerback from cal going to Tennessee. Andreas Bora
Gollis h a place kicker, kicker from Miami, is now
the only Patriots.

Speaker 5 (03:19:58):
Come on, Broncos, do it, draft the punter?

Speaker 2 (03:20:01):
Do it?

Speaker 3 (03:20:01):
Don't you dare put that evil out there in a
sixth round?

Speaker 15 (03:20:04):
Or I would melt the ball down. They said, draft
a punter the Bama kit I really like a lot too.
I mean would I don't think it'd be a terrible reach.
It'd be if they're able to trade back and get
the put that last back.

Speaker 5 (03:20:20):
Into up and get it.

Speaker 3 (03:20:21):
Okay that you've lost me there, make everybody around town meltdown. Well,
and you're right to the to that point missing out
in gunner Helm, I think was frustrating enough for a
lot of Broncos fans that, oh, George Payton doesn't want
to trade up and get the tight ends that he
needs to get. Yeah, well, there you go. That's that
sense of what happened. They got a course special teams

(03:20:43):
and Kee Robinson. Those people probably never heard of him,
so I can understand it wouldn't make a lot of sense.
Sure later on at the Q and A, they'll figure
it out.

Speaker 5 (03:20:53):
The Steelers are picking here at one eighty five.

Speaker 4 (03:20:56):
It's been a very Steelers the draft for the Steelers,
they kind of lost the identity for a cup.

Speaker 5 (03:21:00):
They're back to be in the Steelers with this draft.

Speaker 1 (03:21:02):
They are.

Speaker 3 (03:21:02):
Ravens have had a good draft going in taking upside swings.
Mike Green on Day two, Ravens just.

Speaker 4 (03:21:09):
Yeah, they just let stuff follow in their lap, like
all right, cool, ye, a good player follow in our lap.

Speaker 15 (03:21:13):
The thing with Mike Green that was so puzzling to
me is there's that John Harbaugh quote from not that
long ago during the Deshaun Watson thing where he's have
a zero tolerance policy.

Speaker 5 (03:21:21):
While Mike Green and Justin Tucker high five and on
the way in the door.

Speaker 15 (03:21:24):
Yeah, they're They're the two biggest headlines relating to the
players connected to the two biggest headlines on the off
field problems.

Speaker 3 (03:21:30):
Steelers go quarterback.

Speaker 5 (03:21:32):
Of course they do.

Speaker 3 (03:21:33):
Will Howard. Oh wow, okay, all right, I really thought
he was gonna go to the Raiders.

Speaker 5 (03:21:37):
Chip Kelly was gonna get this guy.

Speaker 3 (03:21:39):
Steelers going quarterback. Probably could use a quarterback. This is
obviously to apply pressure to Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 13 (03:21:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:21:45):
I think that Will Howard drafting in the six, sixth round. Yeah,
I think that really puts the pressure on Aaron Rodgers
to make a quick decision.

Speaker 3 (03:21:53):
Jordan Love No, no, not quite, but I could. I
can see one of those deals like, hey, you're not
gonna call me back, fine, yeah, we're gonna take We're
gonna take a quarterback.

Speaker 4 (03:22:00):
Here, Aaron.

Speaker 3 (03:22:01):
Yeah, Rogers has been on that side of the equation.
Before you mentioned Jordan.

Speaker 5 (03:22:04):
Of course, he was the guy applying the pressure to
Brett favor Far. Yeah. If there's something about Mary Bit
still still plays or not.

Speaker 15 (03:22:14):
The problem with that bluffing strategy is they're kind of
blessing with a soft three here.

Speaker 5 (03:22:20):
I'm gonna go test.

Speaker 3 (03:22:21):
I don't think you could say that when we're talking
about Brett Farr. Oh my gosh. Not following up on that,
but but to that point, right, you had Mason Rudolph
that that was the only quarterback on your roster. I
don't know, man, the Steelers, is that is that the
play here? Are they gonna go Kirk Cousins? Are they
gonna wait for Aaron Rodgers to figure out what he's doing?

Speaker 4 (03:22:44):
I believe Rodgers will commit to the Steelers in the end.
I think he's too proud to retire. I think he's
too proud to sit out a year. And I don't
think he wants to go out the way he went out.
I think I at the end of the day, I
just my gut says, of course, you know I've been
wrong before, I'll be wrong again.

Speaker 5 (03:22:56):
Is he gonna be a team player mentor about Will Howard?

Speaker 3 (03:22:59):
Or do you think you kind of go to Joe
flacklel route. I'm not here to be a mentor.

Speaker 4 (03:23:03):
He's going to tell that dude to stay unvaccinated and
and give him a bunch of you know, give a
bunch of weird literature in Alaska about medicine that doesn't work.
Again enough following over that one, either, have you tried
a homeopathy? The Ravens areval of the clock at one
eighty six.

Speaker 3 (03:23:19):
We're about eleven picks away from the Broncos pick at
one ninety seven in the sixth round. So, Ben, I
guess taking a look at what's on the board here,
do you want to take a look at positions or
you want to look at specific players overall here?

Speaker 5 (03:23:31):
All right?

Speaker 4 (03:23:32):
When yours being out there does surprise me a little bit.

Speaker 5 (03:23:34):
I thought he'd be gone by that.

Speaker 3 (03:23:35):
Damian Martinez not been taken by now surprises me quite
a bit.

Speaker 5 (03:23:40):
I'm looking at some of these others. They don't.

Speaker 4 (03:23:41):
Williams has the the injury issues, Bond has the character issues.

Speaker 5 (03:23:46):
Who else available here?

Speaker 4 (03:23:48):
See Ivy Ivey's a some of Jared Ivy's somebody I
thought would be gone by now out there. Yeah, I
know a lot of people like Brishard Smith receiving back
at a Keebles at SMU. Yeah, a whole lot of
names there on that list that I'm just sitting there
jumping out of the gym for go to look it
hit the tab by position here, Like look the wide
receivers that are remaining. I think there's a few that

(03:24:10):
you know about. Tess Johnson, a guy you know, Bonex's brother. Now,
we expected to be very very late draft pick or possibly, Uh,
somebody that goes undrafted. Ricky White still being out there something.
I'd like to see him get drafted. He's a better
player than where people had him ranked.

Speaker 3 (03:24:24):
What do you think of Nick Nash?

Speaker 4 (03:24:25):
Highly productive but not really you know in the en
when you watch him play, like, okay, this guy just you.

Speaker 3 (03:24:30):
Know this, this is scheme one hundred and four receptions,
sixteen touchdown. Yeah, they were just spamming the They were
just spamming him with targets. It was not There was
a time when I thought people were going to lose
their minds that Nick Nash should be the Heisman winner
instead of Travis Hunt. No, I'm telling you that that
was a real thing from San Jose eight state fan
fan individual.

Speaker 4 (03:24:49):
Yeah, I was like, how many of all four of
those guys, I mean.

Speaker 3 (03:24:51):
They were they were hitting up everybody out here in
Colorado Like you guys don't even know Nick Nash.

Speaker 5 (03:24:56):
He's the man.

Speaker 3 (03:24:57):
It's like Nick dash is.

Speaker 4 (03:24:58):
I know exactly who Nick Nash is.

Speaker 5 (03:24:59):
He's a highly productive receiver.

Speaker 12 (03:25:01):
Who you know.

Speaker 4 (03:25:02):
I'm giving you a slow clap here, but uh, some
of the some of the Colorado receivers can come off here.

Speaker 5 (03:25:06):
You still got.

Speaker 3 (03:25:09):
A horn and you know, you've got a couple of
guys here.

Speaker 5 (03:25:12):
I think that that could go Ricky White out un
l V.

Speaker 4 (03:25:14):
I just mentioned a minute ago somebody I thought, you know,
I think very highly of I think he's a very
good receiver. He just didn't get his due. Uh So
there's a couple of guys there. I think that as
far as the receivers that could still be selected, Dippy.

Speaker 15 (03:25:27):
The tight ends for me will do you think Isaiah
Bond eventually goes off the board or do you think
no team's going to touch that out with it.

Speaker 5 (03:25:32):
That case outstanding. The thing about the thing about that
kind of stuff.

Speaker 4 (03:25:38):
Is is that your level of talent is is directly
proportioned to the level of forgiveness.

Speaker 5 (03:25:42):
NFL teams will have for that. And Bob was already
a Day three guy.

Speaker 3 (03:25:47):
So as far as the tight ends go, it's not
really luc La Shabian out there is intrigues me.

Speaker 5 (03:25:53):
Most of the rest of these mean branding stool, Yes.

Speaker 15 (03:25:56):
Jake Brenning stool is kind of like a poor man's
gats To, and I think a lesser version of the
same archetype that kind of wide receiver tight end hybrid body,
good uver in space.

Speaker 5 (03:26:06):
I don't think he's as good, but a good consolation price.

Speaker 4 (03:26:08):
I don't want to confuse anybody. Luke Liche of course
not related to Nick Lache. I've been waiting for that
joke ninety eight degrees all day you and your boy
band references. I've been waiting temperature of the room ninety
eight degrees in rising.

Speaker 5 (03:26:22):
At least it wasn't a studio the other week.

Speaker 4 (03:26:24):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (03:26:25):
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powered by Common Spirit. What do you think is the
biggest impact player that the Broncos got out of this?

Speaker 5 (03:26:40):
You know's it Harvey? Is it Barren?

Speaker 3 (03:26:41):
Both those guys look to be in the lineup pretty quick.
Go ahead, Zach.

Speaker 15 (03:26:45):
I think Harvey just because I don't know who's going
to compete with it. I know it seems like estimate,
but I mean the last concrete data point we have
on estimate. He was a healthy scratch for their playoff
game in favor of a practice squad guy who had
thirteen career touches with the Broncos, So I don't know
if he's going to be a guy who suddenly gets
a big role in that room. I think it's a

(03:27:07):
nice idea, but I still think he has to prove it.

Speaker 10 (03:27:10):
R J.

Speaker 15 (03:27:10):
Harvey to me, seems like the plug and play running
back one right now. Maybe they they draft a veteran
that changes that, but I'd say him and then Baron
is a very very close second. I think his versatility,
talent and intelligence, it's just going to be very very
hard to keep him off the field, kind of the
same way it's going to be hard to keep Travis
Hunter off the field because he's at least our fourth

(03:27:31):
best wide receiver, at least our fourth best cornerback. I
think Baron's going to be, you know, your best nickel,
one of your best boundary corners, one of your best safeties.

Speaker 4 (03:27:38):
You heard it here, Zach Siegers. Baron's going to be
our leading receiver this year.

Speaker 5 (03:27:42):
So not what I say, I think, I think it has.

Speaker 3 (03:27:48):
To be Baron. I just think that that his talent
will will give him more opportunities and does not say
that that a role couldn't be carved down.

Speaker 2 (03:27:57):
R J.

Speaker 4 (03:27:57):
Harvey is a fascinating one right because of just the
the hole in that position group.

Speaker 3 (03:28:02):
But we don't know, as you pointed out multiple times,
we don't know post draft what they're gonna do there.
If they do bring in Nick Chubb. It's not say
Nick Chubb is necessarily the starter, but Nick Chubb might
have a pretty significant role. As we sit here today,
Audrick Estimate is going to have a significant role in
the offense. Well, okay, that that begs the question who's good?
What's just going to be greater?

Speaker 4 (03:28:23):
Juda Baron interceptions or RJ Harvey touchdowns.

Speaker 15 (03:28:27):
I'll take r J Harvey touchdowns. I think he's an
explosive player. He's got a nose for the end zone.
But part of the reason I love the Baron picks
so much because I think he's just like the perfect compliment,
excuse me to stroke, the perfect popula, the perfect compliment
to Sir Tan in that cornerback room. You know, his
ability to thrive in the nickel means you can't hide
great receivers from Sir Tan by putting them there. And

(03:28:49):
with him being such a great zone corner, a great
at reading the quarterback size and making plays on the football.
I think he what led to sec in interceptions last year.
If you're going to stay away from sir Tan, which
we know quarterbacks want to do, he's a corner that
can make you pay very frequently for that gamble.

Speaker 4 (03:29:05):
Well, that's the thing you're gonna test. They're gonna test
him early because I mean you saw last year when
he was healthy, they tried to test.

Speaker 5 (03:29:10):
Riley Moss and that was a no go.

Speaker 9 (03:29:11):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (03:29:11):
They tested to make million and.

Speaker 5 (03:29:12):
They got away with a little bit. So we'll see
this year. You're gonna see.

Speaker 4 (03:29:15):
You're gonna see they try to test him early. I
think he could. He could pad the totals a little early.
We got a kicker run yeah, run on kickers.

Speaker 3 (03:29:22):
So borg Allis went to, uh the Patriots and now
interesting the Ravens, who did have some kicker issues. If
I remember last year based like Tyler Loop out of Arizona.

Speaker 4 (03:29:35):
Yeah, you know this, Uh shouldn't throw anybody for a loop.
I think that at the end of the day, they
need so weird they needed a kicker there, you know,
clean character issues. Uh, no offense, it's weird we have
to talk about kickers in off field, but uh, you
know yeah, clean uh clean character issue there and that'll
that'll help clean up.

Speaker 5 (03:29:53):
That locker room a little bit. As we were just
talking about.

Speaker 3 (03:29:55):
What is gonna happen with Justin Tucker? You think I
can't launch him to the moon.

Speaker 15 (03:29:58):
So they draw the line at three it seems so green.
Second round the Tucker and Nogo, so the three four
somewhere in there.

Speaker 4 (03:30:05):
Yeah, there's a Yeah, there's a designated line. The line
is very clear at three accusations.

Speaker 3 (03:30:11):
Okay, Jalen Reed saves the out of Penn State. That's
a good pick.

Speaker 4 (03:30:15):
Let's good pick there for the Texans, uh one eighty seven.
We're about ten picks away from the Broncos here at
one to ninety seven. I don't know what do you think, Zach,
What are you eyeing here as far as the target
for the Broncos knowing that they won't take whoever we mentioned.

Speaker 5 (03:30:29):
You know, Cameron Williams shut your dead on.

Speaker 15 (03:30:32):
But Cameron Williams and Seth McLoughlin to offensive Lineman, you
highlighted the idea of you know, let's keep investing in
the trenches. Luke Wattenberg entering a contract year Ben Powers
is you know, getting expensive so even if you bring
Wattenberg back, maybe he bumps out to guard, you could replace.

Speaker 5 (03:30:48):
That center spot.

Speaker 15 (03:30:49):
McLoughlin was the top center in the class until he
suffered an injury late in the year. You know, maybe
he's not ready for the start of twenty twenty five.
But because you already have Wattenberg and play be a
draft pick for the future, you can afford to do that.
Cam Williams. Uh, it was one of my favorite developmental
tackles in the draft. If they took him in the
third round, I would have been happy with it. I
think the upside is so high. So yeah, well, I

(03:31:11):
will say shout out to our guy, prophet.

Speaker 5 (03:31:13):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (03:31:14):
The Indianapolis Colts have got their quarterback. It's Riley Leonard.

Speaker 3 (03:31:18):
Oh there it is. There you go, Prophets. If you're
still listening, which we uh, I don't know, we know
you are. He has a better suit things to do.
But okay, Riley Leonard.

Speaker 5 (03:31:28):
They've got a type in that quarterback room, Yes they do.

Speaker 4 (03:31:31):
Guys.

Speaker 5 (03:31:31):
You love to see run the football. Absolute absolutely has
a yeah, has a type. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:31:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:31:39):
So it's uh yeah, because because throwing the ball is
not really a right Leonard, No thing we do Daniel
Jones or Daniel Jones.

Speaker 3 (03:31:47):
Or Anthony Richardson.

Speaker 4 (03:31:48):
Oh yeah, three headed monster in that backfield happen. It
seeks like a pitchy rotation that e chim only has
one pitch. You know, it's right, Like Anthony richards has
got a fastball, but he couldn't throw a curve or
a slider change up to save his life.

Speaker 3 (03:32:01):
A running back has gone off the board.

Speaker 4 (03:32:03):
A Michigan running back has gone off the board.

Speaker 3 (03:32:05):
But it's not done.

Speaker 5 (03:32:06):
If edwards it's Claul Mullings. I really like him.

Speaker 15 (03:32:09):
I think he's a fun just hammer the back like
he's an absolute sledgehammer. I think he's a converted linebacker
and he plays like it. He's an absolute glass eater.
He he'll throw his body into contact.

Speaker 5 (03:32:19):
He loves Mary Barber. It's who he reminds you of.

Speaker 4 (03:32:22):
Yes, that's a great sound contact when he's running the ball,
and you feel the pop when you're watching him, like
you can hear audible.

Speaker 15 (03:32:29):
Every contact with him is audible. And that that speaks
how hard of a runner he is.

Speaker 3 (03:32:32):
Yeah, five zero, So check in on that here. Uh,
let's see here what is going on in Houston? They
have drafted Jayden, Jalen, Jalen and Jalen.

Speaker 5 (03:32:43):
He super confusing in that way. They do have a
lot of Jalens. Yeah, so confusing. Oh man, that press
conference is going to be the modern Who's on first?
I'd for it is going to be great telling you. Yeah, goot,
question for Jalen.

Speaker 4 (03:32:56):
We we were talking about like a type, like like, hey,
the Broncos have a type. They're looking for matureose for captains.
Houston's like, we're looking for Jalen's Jaye or Jalen.

Speaker 5 (03:33:07):
Come on down.

Speaker 3 (03:33:08):
I mean they took the two Iowa States wide receivers. Yeah,
both I I love both of them. I just can't
beletely to both of them.

Speaker 5 (03:33:15):
Yeah, that was it was it. Yeah, I'm looking for Jaalen.
No no, no, no, no Iowa State no, no, no receiver.

Speaker 15 (03:33:22):
Who's moms are big fab five fans that that's their
best scouting background.

Speaker 3 (03:33:28):
Yeah, Ben's mom. I'll ask quick, Lewis, he'll ask her
soon enough. Those food dinner. Never call her again.

Speaker 15 (03:33:38):
I can't believe's already gotten her to change her name.
I heard that say that, and that's Lewis.

Speaker 5 (03:33:41):
I think that's crazy. Yeah, it's fascinating. Look at Zach
with the jokes. All right, we'll get we got something for.

Speaker 3 (03:33:50):
Just keep having some fun, all right.

Speaker 5 (03:33:52):
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