April 16, 2025 • 42 mins
Shannon The Dude and Billy Rutledge talk UK transfer portal news, erasing memories, and a member of Blink-182 claims he helped capture Saddam Hussein.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
It is the KSR pre Show Wednesday, April sixteenth. I
am Shannon the Dude, broadcasting live from the four Street
Live Studios here in louisvill be enjoyed by Billy Retligi.
He's over in Lexington and you can give us a
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six six five six. KSR pre Show is being brought
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Last night we got to talk really for the first
time to one of your go to co hosts for
when I'm not here for the pre show, Cash Daniel,
over at ov W. We had a Cash you know,
(00:44):
wreussell Mania weekends coming up, so we shifted our normal
Thursday OVWTV to last night because some fans like you know,
to travel to the city where Russell Meania is going on,
which I think is Vegas this year. Anyway, long story short,
we moved over to Tuesday this week and Cash was
there and I was saying, man, I'm hearing good things
(01:05):
about your training, and you know, I wanted to thank
him for always filling in for me whenever you go
to him to the bullpen for the KSR pre show.
But man, first of all, Cash is a good dude.
Man Like, he's just a cool dude, and he's going
to do so well at OVW Like, I'm really really
excited for what's to come and his his wrestling future.
But got the chance to talk to him last night
(01:26):
and can't wait to see him in the ring. There's
a show coming up in Pikeville in the next couple
of weeks, so for those of you in that area,
you get the chance to check out Cash. Daniel McK
is in ring debut.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Billy Well, I know he's not far he did grow
up not far away from there, so I'm sure he
could get a huge hometown support. You know, he's just
got the personality for that business, right. I can't wait
till he gets comfortable and he starts calling out children
in the crowd, just like you do, Shannon. But you know,
Cash was really vulnerable the last time he was on
the pre show, opening up about some health issues that
(01:57):
he was having in the direction of his life. And
I'm just really really excited for him. I know he's
wanted to get in with you guys for a while,
so for him to see his dreams come to fruition
like this, it's there's nothing better. So I can't wait
to see when you tube get in the ring.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Well, I was about to say his career, his career
is very like the future for his career is very bright.
As long as he doesn't get in my way, like,
as long as he doesn't try to, you know, you know,
take a shot at the world heavyweight radio title, everything's
going to be great for cash. But yeah, I'm looking
forward to to what he's going to be doing in
the ring very very soon. Now, the shock, the shock
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of the century, maybe not the century, shock of the
transfer portal though, came yesterday.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Billy I said it on KSR.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
There's no way Lamar Wilkerson is going to pick Indiana
over Kentucky.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
It's just not going to happen.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I mean, this guy had it narrowed down to Kentucky, Auburn,
Old miss and yeah, Indiana didn't. When he narrowed it
down to Kentucky and Indiana, I said, well, why isn't
he just announcing it.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
There's no way he's going to indianaality at this point.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yeah, and what does the guy do? He picks Indiana
over Kentucky. I can't believe it, man, I was my
jaw hit the floor. I'm like, there's no way he
would pick it Indiana over Kentucky. Yet here we are,
and he said the reason that he picked Indiana over Kentucky.
Let me get the quote here. He says, I don't
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want to go to Kentucky and just.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Be another guy. Oh, just be another guy?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
You mean, like just another guy like a John Wall
or a Devin Booker, or a Karl Anthony Towns or
an Anthony Davis or any of the other countless NBA
star You don't want to be another guy. Now that
he's going to Indiana, you are going to be another guy.
You're just going to be another guy that nobody knows
their name. You're gonna be another no name Indiana player.
(03:51):
Indiana has not been relevant billy since when two thousand
and two, when they played in the championship game against Maryland.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
And when Tom Crean had a win two every now
and then, Yeah, yeah, I can't discount your the other
pre show Hill and Tom Crane I guess had a
few years there, but were they really relevant back then?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
And Nah, may enough.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
To get beat by Kentucky on the biggest stage.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Right, Yeah, what's your take on Lamar Wilkerson Man, there
has to be some nil like major money coming his
way to choose Bloomington over Lexington.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
I couldn't believe it. It's wild.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
I mean, he'll be just another guy sitting on his
couch watching the NCAA tournament Shannon, because that's what Indiana
basketball has done over the last decade. And I want
to read the full quote because I want to pick
on something that he also said within that quote. It
was a pleasure to be recruited by Kentucky, but I
didn't want to go to Kentucky and just be another
guy that has already been to Kentucky. Who's your basketball.
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It's a big time name, and they haven't been where
they wanted to.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Be, yeah, in twenty years.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
So we openly admit that this is a worst team
that he will be going to that has not achieved
the heights at Kentucky. He's afraid of getting lost in
the weeds with all the talented players that he'd have
to play with. Oh, such a hard life for Lamar Wilkinson. Well,
here's what happened, Shannon. They offered him more money. I mean,
let's just read between the lines here, an eleventh hour
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visit by the new Indiana coach, motivation levels change.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Did Keenland do nothing to him?
Speaker 5 (05:21):
Shane?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I mean he was in the winner circle. I thought
it was wrapped up right after that. But does it
mean nothing to take a recruit to the winner circle?
Speaker 1 (05:29):
I mean this is a miss. Let's not get it twisted.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
This is somebody that Kentucky wanted, and unfortunately he will
go somewhere else. But if he has that mindset that
he was not willing to compete with a talented roster
like Kentucky and he's more worried about his relevance after
he's gone from the university that he's picking, than Kentucky
was not the place for him, and ultimately this would
probably be best for both sides.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Don't you think I can't get mad? Yeah, I can't
get mad at a guy for chasing more money. All right,
the NBA, I would do the same thing. I'm not
going to lie I would, But if the goal as
a college player is to get to the next level.
And I would think that would be the goal if
you're playing college basketball to get to the NBA. Where
do you think you're going to have a better chance
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Indiana or Kentucky who has put player after player after
player and made stars out of these guys set for life.
And you're going to Indiana to take more money now.
So that tells me that, you know, if you think
that chasing more money now is more important than the
money you're possibly going to get if you went to
Kentucky to get to the NBA, maybe this guy isn't
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an NBA talent.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Maybe you know, maybe he's just gonna you know, and
there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
If you want to go and get money while you're
in college, great, But you know, if it were me,
I could go to Kentucky. The money is going to
follow Kentucky.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Maybe Mark Pope couldn't promise a guy X amount of dollars,
which I don't know how college coaches are doing that anyway.
How can you promise somebody a certain number? But if
you come to Kentucky, the money is going to follow
you there, and you're gonna have a much better chance
of being made for your entire life when you go
to the NBA, like some of these guys that I
(07:08):
just mentioned.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
You know, Cal was a big part of it, But
Kentucky the program is a factory to the NBA. You're
gonna get the eyeballs that you want. Maybe he doesn't
see himself as an NBA player, and he's gonna try
to cash in as much as possible.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Fair Enough, Vienna if that's the case. Fair enough.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
But you know, but like did otega Oway just become
another guy at Kentucky?
Speaker 1 (07:28):
No, that's a star.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Did Kobe Brayd just become another guy that came and
played at Kentucky? They had major roles on their team
last year. And while they were able to make the
second weekend and it didn't ultimately work out to advance.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
To the Elite eight.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
I mean, those guys will be beloved by this fan
base for one hundred years. Shannon, What is Indiana gonna
think about Lamar Wilkerson fifty years from now when they
go what thirteen and twenty six, He's gonna be just
another guy don't make the NCA He'll just be in
a in the Indiana history.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Maybe it's somebody that looks at the task and wants
to bring Indiana back to prominence. I think of it
as somebody that is chasing a back and like you
said to Shannon, there to a degree, you can't fault that,
but get that weak mindset out of my Kentucky basketball program.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Kayden lewis the same situation. Guy that didn't want to
fight for you want to compete, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Saw the landscape and said maybe I'm better off elsewhere.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Felt like he was being recruited over instead of Oh,
you're bringing in another guy to compete for my position,
let's go. No, these guys are just bowing out and
choosing other directions. To your point about Oway was away
on a draft board when he was at Oklahoma, not one,
but now at Kentucky, the guy's a star. Like the
guy I think is gonna make legit money in the NBA.
(08:48):
You know he just by the way speaking of him,
just put his name in the NBA pool, the draft,
and you know he has the option to come back,
which he probably will, but he's going to go out
there and get evaluated as he should, as every player should.
Right if you have any chance at all of going
to the NBA every year, I would expect you to
put your name into the NBA draft. Yes, but you know,
(09:09):
I think you also mentioned this earlier. Let's not act
like we didn't want Lamar Wilkerson. That's the way some
are our fans like, oh, you know we didn't want
this guy from sam Houston.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yes we did.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
We were just talking about yesterday how we need another
good shooter, how this guy was the best shooter in
Conference USA. And now some of our fans when he
decides to go to Indiana go, oh, we didn't want
him anyway, no big loss. Well, if you believe it's
no big loss, then you believe that Mark Pope is
going out and recruiting scrubs, which he's not.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
You can't have it both ways.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
You can't act like we want this guy then when
we don't get them, oh, no big deal.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Don't you think the perception changed a little bit though,
when he went on Field of sixty eight and said
that he just didn't want to be another guy in Kentucky.
I think it's okay to have that opinion after you
hear you know from the horse's mouth that it was
too much competition.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
For him.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
But look, I see a lot of people in Big
Blue Nation getting upset about fake insiders online. Either we
need to realize nobody knows what's going on. I mean,
to a degree, you can report accurate information, but there's
nothing things that people can do when somebody changes their
decision last minute. And it seems like people are coming
in Bagman's are coming in to offer maybe a little
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bit more money, maybe a little bit more playing time
at the end, you know, it's just maybe wait until
these guys are committed before we get excited, because we've
been burned a couple times during this cycle. I mean,
Donovan or the dent guy from New Mexico was one
of them. Here's another one just yesterday. I feel like
we've gotten our hopes up on a couple guys that
didn't work out.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
But Shannon, that may be the norm. Oh it is.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
I mean it looks, you know, like on the football side,
look at Nico in Tennessee, and I love by the
way that Tennessee just drew a line in the sand
and they go, no, they call it this bluff. Yeah,
and now he's gonna end up going to play for
another team, a lesser team. Have to learn the offense
again entirely, start all over, and probably gonna be playing
for half the money if he weren't, you know, if
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he wasn't greedy and just decided to stay where he
was playing in the SEC starting quarterback for Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Two million dollars isn't enough.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
More schools need to do what Tennessee did and go no, no,
we're drawing a line here.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Enough's enough. If that's not good enough for you, get
out of here. Yeah, get ready to learn.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Acc buddy, I mean, you were greedy to turn down
the University of Tennessee and the millions of dollars they
were already off. We got to remember he red shirted
his first year and still made millions of dollars while
on the bench. I mean, this was a two year
thing for Nico, and as he goes into his third year,
he's asking for a little more, and Tennessee's like, are
you kidding me? So I'm with you in a salute
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to the University of Tennessee for drawing that line of
the sand. Things are going to change when this house
settlement comes through. We were still awaiting anxiously. You know
what will happen we saw Mitch Barnhardt and Josh Heard
from Louisville all go up and meet with some decision
makers at the White House. Pope and Pat Kelsey were
there too, So there is change on the way, but
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change so many times, can be very slow, Shannon.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
So we're still in a wild time.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
But now Kentucky has to pivot and find somebody else, right,
because I don't think that their roster is set right now.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
You've still got to find a shooter.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Yeah, and then you have to decide if you want
a backup point guard or if you're going to move
forward with Colin Chandler in that role.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
And you got to also make sure that the guys
on your roster aren't gonna feel slighted if you go
out and recruit another guy that's in like that's that
plays their position. God forbid we go out and get
another guard or another you know, player that's gonna maybe
come in and make another player already on your roster
feel like that they're not wanted because you're recruiting somebody else.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
You got to have depth.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
You do, you do, you do, but you know, Mark
Pope made a comment to Maggie Davis, our third case.
Our pre show co host to Be brought up this
segment on Monday's edition of BBN Tonight, where Mark Pope said,
it's been the easiest conversations ever.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Right now recruiting in the portal.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
I mean, when you get with a like minded individual
that sees your vision and you're playing for the university,
I'm sure it's easy, right, It's like, come be a
part of something special. But when there's a disconnect, when
somebody changes their mind at the last hour, I think
things happen for a reason. And you know, if we
if we hate watched Arkansas this year, I'm gonna be
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hate watching Indiana and Shannon, Kentucky and Indiana are going
to play each other this year.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Is Isn't that right? Like in that series starting.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
I think his next year, I think it does is
that I don't know where the location of the.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
First we'll see Lamar become just another guy. I think
in that game Shannon, or or maybe we'll see him
ascend a greatness.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
But I think it will be the.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
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Speaker 1 (13:44):
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Speaker 2 (13:49):
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want to call in, Billy, did you watch any of
the NBA.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Player games last night? I did not. You didn't, so
you didn't.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
See Trey Young throw a throw a fit get ejected
from the game.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
He didn't see all that? No, No, he threw a fit.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
Oh yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Oh did he like dribble the ball away from a
referee or something like that? Because I did see this.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
He like pump faked the referee.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
So yeah, the roff was trying to get the ball
from him and he kind of like juked him a
little bit, and the ref the ref went for the
ball and he just like dribbled, like spun it away
from the ref and then took the ball.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
I thought he's going to take the ball to the locker.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Room with him, but but he threw it down and
got thrown out and the Hawks got their butt kicked
last night.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
So so is that worth a technical? Embarrassing a referee?
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
I mean I think so it's I mean, unless you're
the Harlem Globe Trotters and you go out there and
throw a bucket of water or confetti on the ref's head.
I don't think you can just do that in the NBA.
So yeah, I would say that that's deserving of a
technical foul.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Yeah, in the Final four, I don't remember which game
it was. It maybe in the championship game, there was
a technical foul for bouncing the ball to and it
was immediately to me the George moment. I don't know
if it was for you, but I felt like every
single time I see that, it will forever be ingrained
in my memory.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yeah, Josh doing me too? Like is that?
Speaker 2 (15:13):
I wonder what the exact role is on dribbling the
ball too high? Like if you bounce it over your head,
is that too high? If I bounce it like to
my face, is that too high? Is it the referees discretion?
Speaker 1 (15:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
I don't know all over the shoulder that's going to
be a tech on you? Yeah, yeah, I don't know,
but we saw it happen the.
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Were you impressed as impressed as I was yesterday on
the Show Billy with Ryan Lemon's his baseball numbers, his
college baseball numbers that Corey Price found pretty impressive if
he went like forty four for his first forty four
and stolen basis.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Yeah, how about our guy batting three fifty four in
nineteen eighty eight, playing fifty three games in one hundred
and thirteen at bats. And not only that, in that season,
our guy had a season high.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Forty one steals out of forty nine attempts.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
I mean, I've heard about this whole illustrious record at
Kentucky Wesleyan and Ryan being the stolen bags leader, but
I didn't know our guy was batting sub three hundred
not only his junior but his senior year where he
added two ninety five, so total he batted three hundred
over his four years.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
That gets you in the Hall of Fame, she does.
I mean, that's like a really fast Tony gwyn. You know,
Tony Gwinn was a really good hitter, but he was
also chunky. Like Tony Gwinn couldn't steal one hundred and
six bases in four years not happening?
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Well, maybe he couldn't.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Like you can't really compare I guess you one hundred
and sixty two game season to what you're playing in college.
I'm just saying, Tony Gwinn's not going one six for
one nineteen and stolen bases our boy Ryan Lemon did.
And what's even more, like just mind blowing for me,
Billy is having those stats in front of me and
then having Ryan Lemon in front of me on the
pickleball court. This guy can barely move left or right,
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and I'm going, wait, this guy, that guy right there
is the all time leading stolen base record holder at
Kentucky Wesleyans.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
It's kind of hard hard to believe.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Now, Yeah, you mentioned in him in the same sentence
as Tony Gwinn. I mean, we stretch here on the
pre show, but that might be an all time stretch.
But here's some more all time records for Ryan Lemon.
Most run scores, He's fourth on the all time list
in Kentucky wesley In history with one hundred and twenty one.
He's got the fifth highest on base percentage in school history,
the fifth highest stolen base percentage, almost ninety percent of
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the stolen bases he's stolen as successful. So I mean
our guy was lighting it up. I would kill for
some old footage of Ryan playing back in the day.
You know, we've heard that Andy has found the Andy
Griffith Show episode with him on it. Still waiting for
him to be revealed.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
And found the Andy was onto Andy Griffith.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Show you're not sorry, Sorry, Jerry Springer. Yes, if he
was on the Andy Griffith show, that'd be time traveling. Yeah,
rare footage, but yeah, somebody called in and said that
was found and that was going to be revealed. I
have not seen that yet, So I would love to
see Andy on that show and then Ryan. I don't
know if it's black and white footage back in the day, Shannon,
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but I'd love to see our guy doing his thing.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
You know, they say you lose a step or two
when you get a little older. I mean I feel
like he's lost about ten or eleven steps this point.
But I'd like to get Ryan just out on the
like a baseball field, to see, like, what's his time
from first to second?
Speaker 1 (19:06):
You know, at the age of whatever. He is fifty
eight now.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Now you did see him circle the bases at Williamsport,
So I mean, is there were there any flashes of
that the in rounding third or was it just ruined
by the sprinkler that he could.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
I don't think he was going for speed on that one.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
He was just doing his home run trot okay as
the sprinklers were coming on, and you know, that was
the whole thing that led to us getting a call
from Homeland Security the next day, which is still an
all time CHASR moment that we even first of all,
that we even did that, and that Ryan jumped on
the field.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Yeah, then Homeland Security.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Calling us as we're sitting on the porch of an
airbnb in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Was that the same trip that he spray painted his head? Yeah,
I'm with the spray on hair, and then he leaned
up against like a restaurant wall and there was an
imprint of the spray paint that had been left there.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
I mean, he was leaving as mark every where he went.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Like when we got in the car his I think
we had a speed bomp in his head hit the
the interior roof of the car and there was a
big black stain. I think that was Matt's car that
we took that trip to. So there's a chance that
Ryan Lemon's like I guess spray paint for lack of
a better term, that we put on his ball spot
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is now still on the inside of Matt's car.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
I was hoping you were going to say it was
a rental and you're gonna have to go back to
Mario's enterprise.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Let's say, sir, what is this really weird black spot
on the inside of the car? Oh not that we
just spray painted our friend's head and it rubbed off. Now,
speaking of baseball, Kentucky Baseball won on a walk off
yesterday over Miami. They have the number two team in America, Tennessee,
coming up. That would have been a bad loss, by
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the way, if they lost to that Miami team yesterday.
So they got Tennessee coming up. They've also got top
fifteen LOBI coming up as well, So a couple of
big opportunities for Menge owing to get this thing rolling up.
I believe they're twenty and fourteen on the year now,
but still some big opportunities to get some wins coming out.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
But Shannon, not just to walk off a walk off bunt.
So that is two games in the last three that
Kentucky has won via walkoff and via walkoff bunt. I mean,
how many times have you seen that? Is that Kentucky's
best offense. We're just gonna bunt small ball? Baby, We're back, Hey,
MinJe owned small ball is back.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
I mean, man, look, bunting is a thing that seems
like it's almost extinct in Major League Baseball now, like
you never see it.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
You never see a sack bunt anymore.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
But good to see that Minjion is still able to
play small ball, and you know he's kind of taking
that approach in the past couple of seasons. If you
don't have guys that can hit home runs, just play
small ball, just you know, out smart them and out
out maneuver of them for a lack of a better tune.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Yeah, and in the last nineteen games, fourteen of them
have been decided by three runs or less. In those games,
Kentucky's five and nine. So what did you say their
record was.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
I think, by the way twenty and fourteen, I.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Mean very easily, you know, could be even better than that. So,
you know, I think people are quick to jump on
this team and say they're not as talented maybe in
years past that min Jones had. I think that they've
been in a lot of close games and a tough conference,
and it's all about making the NCAA tournament, right, So
if they can hold on and do that, then anything's possible.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
In case softball beat your Hilltoppers last night too.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Yeah, I don't want to run roll them back, then
back to back, three home runs back to back to
but you don't see.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
That very often.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Well, shout out Western Kentucky Baseball. They're great this year.
I wouldn't want to play them and.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Take your phone calls.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Coming up eight five nine two eight h twenty two
eighty seven, Welcome back. It is the KSR pre show
Blink twent eighty two right here. All the Small Things
a song that my band Alice Bluegun Covers will be playing.
By the way, our next show is coming up a
week from Saturday. We're going to be at ten roof
in Saint Matthew's at eight o'clock, so.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Come on out for that.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
But I'm playing Blink twe eighty two Billy, because I
want to ask you, do you believe Mark Hoppis from
Blink twent eighty two? Do you know the story about
Mark hoppis saying that he believes that he played a
big role in capturing Saddam Husain. This just came out
a few days ago on a podcast, and this is
in his book that he just wrote. But do you
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believe that Mark Copps actually played a role in capturing
Saddam Husain?
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Twenty two years ago.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Well, tell me why he thinks that, because I don't
know this story. So what was Saddam a big Blink
one eighty two fan and our soldiers heard him playing
it from the other room or what's the story?
Speaker 2 (23:30):
So the story goes that Blink one eighty two was
playing I guess a show on like an aircraft or
like some sort of some sort of military based show
that they were doing. I'm not exactly sure like what
the venue was that they were playing. But because of this,
Mark Coppas ends up having dinner with a Navy admiral
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on board an aircraft carrier in the Persian Gulf and
he says to this admiral, I have an idea on
how we can catch Saddam Hussein.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Now when you're when now we're in a navy.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Admiral and a rock star sitting there having dinner with you,
and he says, I think I can help you catch
Saddam Hussein.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
You'll probably just laugh at the guy, right I would.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Oh, yeah, absolutely, It's like stay in your element here, Mark,
But yeah, you can humor me.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Continue, tell me what you think.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
So I guess at the time, every night Saddam Hussein
was putting out these little broadcasts like videos, and he
would send them out to all of his his followers.
So Mark Happas goes, you know, Saddam's putting out these videos.
We can use drones to fly all over the region
where we think that he might be in different patterns,
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and the broadcasting time codes go up, and you'll be
able to catch that through I guess like somehow, like
through through the signals that are broadcasted out there. You
can pinpoint kind of where he's at by flying drones
over the area that you think that he may be
hiding in.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Okay, So if I throw drones above somebody and I
guess he broadcasts that video, then I can tell that
he's there if my drone's in the right place.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Is that what you're telling? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (25:07):
If they and they have technology that can, like, you know,
I guess figure out where those signals are coming from,
you hook that onto the drone And sure.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Enough, the admiral takes this advice.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Three months later, they do exactly what Mark Hoppus suggested
and they capture Saddam Hussein based off of his suggestion
on how you could catch them. Now, is that a
little too far fetched? That a rock star actually gave
a Navy admiral some advice on how to catch Saddam
and they actually used it and it happened worked well.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Let's say Kentuck he's playing Tennessee in the Sweet sixteen,
and you get Mark Pope's ear and you say, hey, Mark,
you know, I think you should play a one three
one zone. They're very susceptible to it. They won't play
as well if you play a one three to one defense.
Mark Pope goes out there, they don't play well in
the first half, but they implement a one three one
zone in the second half and they end up coming
back to win. I think, Shannon, the dudes the reason
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why Kentucky won the game.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
There you go, so you can't believe so according to
the quote. According to the quote, he says they were
able to pull the ultrasonic data and triangulate the drones
that you have flying over, and they were able to
pick up the signal.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Now, the players still got to go play and hit
those shots and play defense. The soldiers still have to
go capture Saddam. But if you helped set up the
winning strategy, I can't help but not think that you
would be a big.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Part of that.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
So didn't think i'd start by saying Blink one eighty
two did help capture.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Shaddami, saying, but I guess I guess that he did.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
It's a strange story. I'm sitting here reading this, going
really is this? Of course, you know, it's just his memoir.
We have no way of telling if he's just making
up the.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Story or not.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
But I saw that headline, I'm like, wow, that's that's
that's interesting. Mark Hoppas from Blink twenty two is taking
down foreign terrorist.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
And then you know, remember when.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
We call it Ben Lauden, we had The Rock as
the first person that actually broke.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
The news somehow, like.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Like somehow these celebrities are tied into like major captures
a foreign terrorist. The Rock somehow beat Obama putting out
the release that we had discaptured Ben Lauden.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
And we just everybody's so patriotic, they just want to help.
I remember Osama bin Lauden was announced. It was announced
on my birthday May first, So yeah, my joke was
you're welcome America when that happened. But that is that
is bizarre, And thank you for your service to Mark
Hapfas and everything he did. I'm reading some about it now,
and he recalled during his book how much sand blew
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on them and in their faces in just a few
hours that they're there. I guess the wind was really bad,
and so I can't imagine they were there for just
a couple hours. Imagine doing a whole tour over there.
You know, so a big, a thankless job being a soldier,
no doubt. Can I match your weird story with a
weird story? Let's go, because we talked about erasing memories
a little bit. Yeah, yesterday we didn't get to the story,
but we mentioned it. Did you ever see the movie
(28:04):
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind?
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Not only have I seen it, if you actually listen
to what I say every day on the show, you
would know that that is my favorite movie of all time.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Like I've mentioned, I love that obviously.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
In that movie one hundred times, it's Jim Carrey Kate Winslet,
a couple that end up breaking up. Then they go
to this place that can erase the memory of each
other from their minds.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Mark Ruffalo, I think it's the greatest movie ever.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Well, this could be coming to reality, real life sooner
than maybe expect. Recent advancements in neuroscience are beginning to
bring this concept to life. Researchers are using techniques to
reduce the emotional impact of painful memories. So maybe not
completely erasing it yet, but maybe you don't have the
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same emotions if you think about something. This would bring
potential relief for people suffering from things like PTSD depression.
Many things, many reasons why you might elect to get
a memory taken away. But Shannon, I might argue, your
memories and your experiences make you who you are. You know,
and if you're going to pick and choose what memories
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you want to keep and what experiences you want to
think about, then you are truly not living the human existence.
But I would be a hypocrite to say there aren't
some things in my life that I'd like to forget. So, Shannon,
I mean kind of a scary science concept. But would
you ever want to erase a memory from your mind?
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Hmm?
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Maybe maybe a NXT girlfriend or yeah, well I mean
at an event maybe, Like I don't know, Like I'm thinking, like,
would you want to erase like the memory of a
death of a close friend. But then if you erase that,
do you also erase the memory of them ever existing, right,
Because if you don't remember that they died, that I
guess in your mind you would think that they were
(29:54):
still alive.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
That would be really confusing.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
There were some beautiful moments at the funeral that you
may not remember anymore, and that helps you, you know,
grieve and get over the things that you have.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Yeah, I don't. I don't think I would, would.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
You No, But that's because I've had a pretty easy life.
You know, we're talking about soldiers in Iraq and capturing
Saddam Hussein. I can think of countless people with PTSD
that would really benefit from forgetting things in their life.
So that's why I see this technology and I think
this could be a really good thing for us. But
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if it's gonna be Katy Perry getting in a rocket
ship to be in space for four minutes, Shannon, if
it's gonna be five grand and I can erase any
memory that I want, then it's a slippery slope, right.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
I mean, there's a conspiracy theory on Katy Perry going
to space. By the way, we'll talk about that on
the other side of this break. Okay, to here, let
me just pose the question for Kentucky fans. You have
the yea, the ability to erase oh bad memory. I mean,
is everybody just going to answer the Laightner shot? Is
that everybody's going to answer? You have the you have
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the chance. You can you can e raise one UK
memory that you wish never happened, and you know it
happens still, but you don't remember it happening. Is it
the Latner shot? Is it? Is it the Wisconsin games?
Speaker 1 (31:18):
And how old you are? I think?
Speaker 3 (31:19):
I mean the Wisconsin game and Drake may were the
two that came to mind for me. I'd like to
erase your memory because it's Isaac Humphreys that hit the
ball on the ground, not Jeorts. Towards the last segment,
I'll erase your memory there and say tell you that
I said Isaac got that switched. But I think majority
of the answer is probably later, right you just I mean,
such a beloved group.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
And what about a memory you would like to erase,
like from the from the show or from your existence
in KSR other than the one you just.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Gave you getting stuck in the bathroom.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Probably well, I'll tell you I'm never gonna forget that,
because I've still got the video now that you brought that,
I might have to retweet that. I mean, have to
tweet that out again later on.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
I mean I was fine with it for like thirty
minutes and then it was like forty five fifty and
I was like over it, Shan.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Where were we?
Speaker 3 (32:07):
We were doing a show's landing, right. They put us
on the lake.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
They put all of us up in a like a
little house, cabin, whatever you want to call it. Billy
goes to the bathroom, tries to get out, can't get out.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Stuck.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
None of us can get them out. Billy can't open
the door from the inside. We can't open the door
from the outside. We had to call the landlord to come,
like get a bulldozer and like knock down the door
to get Billy out of the restroom.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
And you were, you were, You were in there for
like a solid hour.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Well, I was ready to kick it down, and Matt
was like, do not kick it down.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Like these people are nice. They're letting your use their
house for free. We didn't know that it had trap
doors in it.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Well, if you remember, we didn't have cell phone service.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
That was the other thing we didn't have any cell phones,
so I think somebody had to go drive to defind.
You know, we couldn't call the fire department to chisel
you out.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
So we had to go.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
We had to go up on a hill to make
a call to the maintenance man who may or may
not have been having a good time that night. Shannon
and had to be driven to the place.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
I'm gonna say, help is that. I'm gonna say he
definitely was having a good time.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
But the whole time, I mean fifty minutes, I'm in
the bathroom and Shannon is just belly laughing for forty
five of it. I mean, he is just loving every single.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
All the rooms to get stuck in in a house, Like,
you didn't get stuck in a bedroom. You got stuck
in this little, tiny bathroom. And if you were claustrophobic
at all, I mean that would have been a real
problem for you.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
But yeah, you were stuck in there.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
And then at one point we pulled the doorknob off
and we could see you, like just through the hole.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
It was like the shining.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Yeah, that was a funny picture of me and that
just through the doorknob. But I'm gonna I'm gonna flip
it to you. Yeah, what would you like to erase?
I mean, was it you dressing up as Dorothy trying
to be a hitchhiker on the side of the.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Road, or was that was awesome? What are you talking about?
Speaker 5 (33:53):
That?
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Was that was fun? That day? I mean that was
the most fun I've ever had in Kansas. I mean
that's not saying much.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Uh, maybe my first day on KSR with Matt first day, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
And the screaming match that ensued in Tony ben Eddie's
office yeah after.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Yeah, where Matt was a complete jerk about me being
on the show and I didn't even know I was
going to be on the show. I thought I was
just coming in to push buttons.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Were you shanning the Dude back then? Or were you
shanning Griggsby? What are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (34:17):
I was shanning the dude long rock, long before KSR. Okay,
like when I started, I've been shanning the dude since
two thousand and three. Baby, this brand's been going for
a long time. We're talking about twenty two years. It
was established long before KSR.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Hell, you want to go back to first days? Matt
takes a picture of me and says, here's Shannon the
dudes filling with his mustache and his mullet. You can
imagine what the twitter comments. We did get a little
roasted that day.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
But yeah, tweet us at Shannon the dude at Billy
our sports a UK memory, you would have a race
from your mind.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Let's take a call. Let's go to j what's up Jay?
Speaker 5 (34:53):
Hey, guys, great show is always this morning. As far
as Wilkerson goes for Indiana, I mean, he says he
wants to, he doesn't want to be just another guy
at Kentucky, but he's just gonna be another guy Indiana
because he's gonna have to play behind or with Tucker
Debrees and that's the coach's son. Yeah, I mean, so
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he's not going up there and getting volume shooting because
West Virginia would have been a lot better had Tucker
not gotten injured this past season. And he's the reason
why Drake did so well in the tournament was because
of his son. And do you think that coach Debrees
is gonna give, you know, let let Wilkerson have the
volume shooting over Tucker. I don't think so. So have
(35:38):
fun of paren Bloomington and maybe you can find the
chair that Bobby threw and have a seat in it
on the sideline.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Thanks for the call, Jay, Thank you Jay. To that point,
I had a similar question on the text line I
want to pose to you, Shannon. Are we worried at
all that if you come here you'll play thirty five minutes?
If you play for Pope, you'll only get twenty is
a valid pitch opposing coaches can use on recruits against Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
I don't look at that as negative recruiting necessarily. I mean,
do you want to do you want to play for
a winning program? Or is it all about how many
minutes you get? Now, some people may say it is
all about the amount of money and how many minutes
you're gonna give me, But again, I don't think you
can promise that. What if the guy gets there is
not good and you just promised him I'm gonna give
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you a thirty three minutes a game and he gets
there and he sucks Nowton edwards. Yeah, Now, as a coach,
are you going to keep your promise and keep playing
the guy even though he's terrible? Or are you going
to go back on your word? So all these promises
the coaches have to make. Again, I said this yesterday.
I would not want to be in their position. And
I also think that the amount of money that a
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lot of these guys say they're making, I don't believe
that either.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
I don't think you want those guys that are expecting
the playing time and expecting the bigger paydays. I think
that weeds them out for you.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
But here is the.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
Situation that you're going to see in the near future.
Let's take the Tennessee quarterback Nico for a second. I
think there will be a day where Nico looks to
the sideline before a big play and says, hey, I
need an extra five hundred thousand, No, I need an
extra million before I go out there versus Bamlets today,
you're going to hold out for more and you and
I fully expect somebody to hold out before a play
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like that, Shannon. The leverage is in the player's hands.
And until we see some change with this house settlement
or with legislation, then I think there will be a
day where something like that happens.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
And that is madness, is it not? It is? It is?
Speaker 2 (37:29):
And I would expect that there would be some sort
of regulation come sooner than later. Otherwise you're just going
to continue to hear more stories like we had with
Nico and Tennessee. We're way late for a break. Let's
take that. We'll take more phone calls. Coming up next
eight five, nine, two, eight oh twenty two eighty seven.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
It's the ksrpre Show. Final segment of the KSR pre.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Show, Shannon the Dude and Billy Reutledge is a little
Katy Perry right here. I'll get to the Katy Pirie
conspiracy theory in just a minute. But last segment, we
were talking about we're getting closer to being able to
erase people's minds, and I asked, is there a UK memory,
UK sports related memory that you would want to erase
from your mind?
Speaker 1 (38:07):
You have some answers on the text machine. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
The majority of answers are the Latner shot in the
Wisconsin game, a couple others. One mentions Drake May in
North Carolina. Saint Peter's in Oakland is a popular answer.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
All of the Billy g.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
Seasons is another answer that somebody has said. And then
one interesting one somebody said is the Reps runts lost
to Texas Western in the National championship game. That game
unfairly cast coach Rupp as a racist in UK as
a racist school. Plus those guys are still some of
my favorite Wildcats of all time. At least the movie
did I mean, do you ever see it?
Speaker 4 (38:41):
Was it?
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Glory Road?
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Shannon and the Rupp was not cast in a favorable
light at all in that movie. And those are some
memories that UK fans would like to erase.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Which one are you picking? Is it gonna be Latener?
You only get one? Is it Latner, Oakland or Saint Peter's?
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Well, I mean Wisconsin. Wisconsin's the other one.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
I think it's Wisconsin for me. I mean, Saint Peter's
in Oakland identified an issue with Kentucky basketball that needed
to be changed, and hopefully it's a good point.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
That's a good point.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Yeah, I mean it actually accelerated that process of moving
on from Cal.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
So I think I'm gonna go with that.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
That's true if you go back and you revise history
and cal doesn't lose in the first round to Oakland
and Saint Peter's very good chance he's still here as
the head coach, and maybe we're still dealing with the
issues that that we had. But then again, if you
don't lose those games, maybe maybe you don't have those
issues per.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Se, Maybe they make a final four.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
It's amazing how like, you know, one one game ultimately
can kind of decide a coach's career path.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Just a ripple effect of racing memories will be be widespread.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Let's say, let's say cal you know, beat Saint Peter's
and beat Oakland and went out in the round of
thirty two.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Is he still the coach here?
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Maybe because it was just such like a shock that
they lost to Saint Peter's in Oakland.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
It was like you were a laughing stock.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
Right, Maybe you lose in the round to thirty two
and people can explain understand that more.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
All right, let me get to this Katy Perry conspiracy theory.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
You know, yeah, totally talking yesterday about Katy Perry and
Gil King and all these female celebrities going up into
space for four minutes. Well, the latest conspiracy. I love
this when we get into summer shows conspiracy theories. There's
a lot of skeptics out there, Billy that think that
it was Hollywood fake, claiming it to be the worst
cgi of any fake space agencies.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Ever produced.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
You know, there's a lot of people that think that
the Moon landing didn't exist ruston p s Jared Lorenzen.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
But do you think there's.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Any chance that this was CGI? There's conspiracy theorists out
there that say that they were filming all this in
a studio and the crew was floating in tanks of water.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
No, I don't think that it's completely fake because I
think it's easy enough to do.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
Yeah, right, I mean, I think.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
Going to the moon and back there is some room
for argument that is a tough ask. But going into
space for three four minutes, Shannon, I feel like that
can be done by our technology. So I think we
are stupid enough of it as a society to send
up Gail King and Katie Perry and Lauren Sanchez. So
I'm gonna go know, but I you know, did you
see what she did? Like they landed and she like
(41:16):
kissed the ground and it was all like theatrical So
they definitely did play it up.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Well, I mean I don't know what the point of
any of that is, and I definitely don't know what
the point of just CGI in it instead of actually
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
It is the KSR pre Show Wednesday, April sixteenth. I
am Shannon the Dude, broadcasting live from the four Street
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Last night we got to talk really for the first
time to one of your go to co hosts for
when I'm not here for the pre show, Cash Daniel,
over at ov W. We had a Cash you know,
(00:44):
wreussell Mania weekends coming up, so we shifted our normal
Thursday OVWTV to last night because some fans like you know,
to travel to the city where Russell Meania is going on,
which I think is Vegas this year. Anyway, long story short,
we moved over to Tuesday this week and Cash was
there and I was saying, man, I'm hearing good things
(01:05):
about your training, and you know, I wanted to thank
him for always filling in for me whenever you go
to him to the bullpen for the KSR pre show.
But man, first of all, Cash is a good dude.
Man Like, he's just a cool dude, and he's going
to do so well at OVW Like, I'm really really
excited for what's to come and his his wrestling future.
But got the chance to talk to him last night
(01:26):
and can't wait to see him in the ring. There's
a show coming up in Pikeville in the next couple
of weeks, so for those of you in that area,
you get the chance to check out Cash. Daniel McK
is in ring debut.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Billy Well, I know he's not far he did grow
up not far away from there, so I'm sure he
could get a huge hometown support. You know, he's just
got the personality for that business, right. I can't wait
till he gets comfortable and he starts calling out children
in the crowd, just like you do, Shannon. But you know,
Cash was really vulnerable the last time he was on
the pre show, opening up about some health issues that
(01:57):
he was having in the direction of his life. And
I'm just really really excited for him. I know he's
wanted to get in with you guys for a while,
so for him to see his dreams come to fruition
like this, it's there's nothing better. So I can't wait
to see when you tube get in the ring.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Well, I was about to say his career, his career
is very like the future for his career is very bright.
As long as he doesn't get in my way, like,
as long as he doesn't try to, you know, you know,
take a shot at the world heavyweight radio title, everything's
going to be great for cash. But yeah, I'm looking
forward to to what he's going to be doing in
the ring very very soon. Now, the shock, the shock
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of the century, maybe not the century, shock of the
transfer portal though, came yesterday.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Billy I said it on KSR.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
There's no way Lamar Wilkerson is going to pick Indiana
over Kentucky.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
It's just not going to happen.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I mean, this guy had it narrowed down to Kentucky, Auburn,
Old miss and yeah, Indiana didn't. When he narrowed it
down to Kentucky and Indiana, I said, well, why isn't
he just announcing it.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
There's no way he's going to indianaality at this point.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yeah, and what does the guy do? He picks Indiana
over Kentucky. I can't believe it, man, I was my
jaw hit the floor. I'm like, there's no way he
would pick it Indiana over Kentucky. Yet here we are,
and he said the reason that he picked Indiana over Kentucky.
Let me get the quote here. He says, I don't
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want to go to Kentucky and just.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Be another guy. Oh, just be another guy?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
You mean, like just another guy like a John Wall
or a Devin Booker, or a Karl Anthony Towns or
an Anthony Davis or any of the other countless NBA
star You don't want to be another guy. Now that
he's going to Indiana, you are going to be another guy.
You're just going to be another guy that nobody knows
their name. You're gonna be another no name Indiana player.
(03:51):
Indiana has not been relevant billy since when two thousand
and two, when they played in the championship game against Maryland.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
And when Tom Crean had a win two every now
and then, Yeah, yeah, I can't discount your the other
pre show Hill and Tom Crane I guess had a
few years there, but were they really relevant back then?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
And Nah, may enough.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
To get beat by Kentucky on the biggest stage.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Right, Yeah, what's your take on Lamar Wilkerson Man, there
has to be some nil like major money coming his
way to choose Bloomington over Lexington.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
I couldn't believe it. It's wild.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
I mean, he'll be just another guy sitting on his
couch watching the NCAA tournament Shannon, because that's what Indiana
basketball has done over the last decade. And I want
to read the full quote because I want to pick
on something that he also said within that quote. It
was a pleasure to be recruited by Kentucky, but I
didn't want to go to Kentucky and just be another
guy that has already been to Kentucky. Who's your basketball.
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It's a big time name, and they haven't been where
they wanted to.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Be, yeah, in twenty years.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
So we openly admit that this is a worst team
that he will be going to that has not achieved
the heights at Kentucky. He's afraid of getting lost in
the weeds with all the talented players that he'd have
to play with. Oh, such a hard life for Lamar Wilkinson. Well,
here's what happened, Shannon. They offered him more money. I mean,
let's just read between the lines here, an eleventh hour
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visit by the new Indiana coach, motivation levels change.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Did Keenland do nothing to him?
Speaker 5 (05:21):
Shane?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I mean he was in the winner circle. I thought
it was wrapped up right after that. But does it
mean nothing to take a recruit to the winner circle?
Speaker 1 (05:29):
I mean this is a miss. Let's not get it twisted.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
This is somebody that Kentucky wanted, and unfortunately he will
go somewhere else. But if he has that mindset that
he was not willing to compete with a talented roster
like Kentucky and he's more worried about his relevance after
he's gone from the university that he's picking, than Kentucky
was not the place for him, and ultimately this would
probably be best for both sides.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Don't you think I can't get mad? Yeah, I can't
get mad at a guy for chasing more money. All right,
the NBA, I would do the same thing. I'm not
going to lie I would, But if the goal as
a college player is to get to the next level.
And I would think that would be the goal if
you're playing college basketball to get to the NBA. Where
do you think you're going to have a better chance
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Indiana or Kentucky who has put player after player after
player and made stars out of these guys set for life.
And you're going to Indiana to take more money now.
So that tells me that, you know, if you think
that chasing more money now is more important than the
money you're possibly going to get if you went to
Kentucky to get to the NBA, maybe this guy isn't
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an NBA talent.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Maybe you know, maybe he's just gonna you know, and
there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
If you want to go and get money while you're
in college, great, But you know, if it were me,
I could go to Kentucky. The money is going to
follow Kentucky.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Maybe Mark Pope couldn't promise a guy X amount of dollars,
which I don't know how college coaches are doing that anyway.
How can you promise somebody a certain number? But if
you come to Kentucky, the money is going to follow
you there, and you're gonna have a much better chance
of being made for your entire life when you go
to the NBA, like some of these guys that I
(07:08):
just mentioned.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
You know, Cal was a big part of it, But
Kentucky the program is a factory to the NBA. You're
gonna get the eyeballs that you want. Maybe he doesn't
see himself as an NBA player, and he's gonna try
to cash in as much as possible.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Fair Enough, Vienna if that's the case. Fair enough.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
But you know, but like did otega Oway just become
another guy at Kentucky?
Speaker 1 (07:28):
No, that's a star.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Did Kobe Brayd just become another guy that came and
played at Kentucky? They had major roles on their team
last year. And while they were able to make the
second weekend and it didn't ultimately work out to advance.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
To the Elite eight.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
I mean, those guys will be beloved by this fan
base for one hundred years. Shannon, What is Indiana gonna
think about Lamar Wilkerson fifty years from now when they
go what thirteen and twenty six, He's gonna be just
another guy don't make the NCA He'll just be in
a in the Indiana history.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Maybe it's somebody that looks at the task and wants
to bring Indiana back to prominence. I think of it
as somebody that is chasing a back and like you
said to Shannon, there to a degree, you can't fault that,
but get that weak mindset out of my Kentucky basketball program.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Kayden lewis the same situation. Guy that didn't want to
fight for you want to compete, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Saw the landscape and said maybe I'm better off elsewhere.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Felt like he was being recruited over instead of Oh,
you're bringing in another guy to compete for my position,
let's go. No, these guys are just bowing out and
choosing other directions. To your point about Oway was away
on a draft board when he was at Oklahoma, not one,
but now at Kentucky, the guy's a star. Like the
guy I think is gonna make legit money in the NBA.
(08:48):
You know he just by the way speaking of him,
just put his name in the NBA pool, the draft,
and you know he has the option to come back,
which he probably will, but he's going to go out
there and get evaluated as he should, as every player should.
Right if you have any chance at all of going
to the NBA every year, I would expect you to
put your name into the NBA draft. Yes, but you know,
(09:09):
I think you also mentioned this earlier. Let's not act
like we didn't want Lamar Wilkerson. That's the way some
are our fans like, oh, you know we didn't want
this guy from sam Houston.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yes we did.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
We were just talking about yesterday how we need another
good shooter, how this guy was the best shooter in
Conference USA. And now some of our fans when he
decides to go to Indiana go, oh, we didn't want
him anyway, no big loss. Well, if you believe it's
no big loss, then you believe that Mark Pope is
going out and recruiting scrubs, which he's not.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
You can't have it both ways.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
You can't act like we want this guy then when
we don't get them, oh, no big deal.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Don't you think the perception changed a little bit though,
when he went on Field of sixty eight and said
that he just didn't want to be another guy in Kentucky.
I think it's okay to have that opinion after you
hear you know from the horse's mouth that it was
too much competition.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
For him.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
But look, I see a lot of people in Big
Blue Nation getting upset about fake insiders online. Either we
need to realize nobody knows what's going on. I mean,
to a degree, you can report accurate information, but there's
nothing things that people can do when somebody changes their
decision last minute. And it seems like people are coming
in Bagman's are coming in to offer maybe a little
(10:17):
bit more money, maybe a little bit more playing time
at the end, you know, it's just maybe wait until
these guys are committed before we get excited, because we've
been burned a couple times during this cycle. I mean,
Donovan or the dent guy from New Mexico was one
of them. Here's another one just yesterday. I feel like
we've gotten our hopes up on a couple guys that
didn't work out.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
But Shannon, that may be the norm. Oh it is.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
I mean it looks, you know, like on the football side,
look at Nico in Tennessee, and I love by the
way that Tennessee just drew a line in the sand
and they go, no, they call it this bluff. Yeah,
and now he's gonna end up going to play for
another team, a lesser team. Have to learn the offense
again entirely, start all over, and probably gonna be playing
for half the money if he weren't, you know, if
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he wasn't greedy and just decided to stay where he
was playing in the SEC starting quarterback for Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Two million dollars isn't enough.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
More schools need to do what Tennessee did and go no, no,
we're drawing a line here.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Enough's enough. If that's not good enough for you, get
out of here. Yeah, get ready to learn.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Acc buddy, I mean, you were greedy to turn down
the University of Tennessee and the millions of dollars they
were already off. We got to remember he red shirted
his first year and still made millions of dollars while
on the bench. I mean, this was a two year
thing for Nico, and as he goes into his third year,
he's asking for a little more, and Tennessee's like, are
you kidding me? So I'm with you in a salute
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to the University of Tennessee for drawing that line of
the sand. Things are going to change when this house
settlement comes through. We were still awaiting anxiously. You know
what will happen we saw Mitch Barnhardt and Josh Heard
from Louisville all go up and meet with some decision
makers at the White House. Pope and Pat Kelsey were
there too, So there is change on the way, but
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change so many times, can be very slow, Shannon.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
So we're still in a wild time.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
But now Kentucky has to pivot and find somebody else, right,
because I don't think that their roster is set right now.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
You've still got to find a shooter.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Yeah, and then you have to decide if you want
a backup point guard or if you're going to move
forward with Colin Chandler in that role.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
And you got to also make sure that the guys
on your roster aren't gonna feel slighted if you go
out and recruit another guy that's in like that's that
plays their position. God forbid we go out and get
another guard or another you know, player that's gonna maybe
come in and make another player already on your roster
feel like that they're not wanted because you're recruiting somebody else.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
You got to have depth.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
You do, you do, you do, but you know, Mark
Pope made a comment to Maggie Davis, our third case.
Our pre show co host to Be brought up this
segment on Monday's edition of BBN Tonight, where Mark Pope said,
it's been the easiest conversations ever.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Right now recruiting in the portal.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
I mean, when you get with a like minded individual
that sees your vision and you're playing for the university,
I'm sure it's easy, right, It's like, come be a
part of something special. But when there's a disconnect, when
somebody changes their mind at the last hour, I think
things happen for a reason. And you know, if we
if we hate watched Arkansas this year, I'm gonna be
(13:19):
hate watching Indiana and Shannon, Kentucky and Indiana are going
to play each other this year.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Is Isn't that right? Like in that series starting.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
I think his next year, I think it does is
that I don't know where the location of the.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
First we'll see Lamar become just another guy. I think
in that game Shannon, or or maybe we'll see him
ascend a greatness.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
But I think it will be the.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Form eight five, nine, two, AH, twenty two eighty seven
will take some of your phone calls. Coming up next,
it's Shannon the Dude and just another guy here on the.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
KSR pre Show. I'm just kidding. You're a star, Billy
our sports. Thank you. We'll be right back.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
KSR Pre Show Shannon Billy eight five nine to AH
twenty two eighty seven got some open lines if you
want to call in, Billy, did you watch any of
the NBA.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Player games last night? I did not. You didn't, so
you didn't.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
See Trey Young throw a throw a fit get ejected
from the game.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
He didn't see all that? No, No, he threw a fit.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
Oh yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Oh did he like dribble the ball away from a
referee or something like that? Because I did see this.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
He like pump faked the referee.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
So yeah, the roff was trying to get the ball
from him and he kind of like juked him a
little bit, and the ref the ref went for the
ball and he just like dribbled, like spun it away
from the ref and then took the ball.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
I thought he's going to take the ball to the locker.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Room with him, but but he threw it down and
got thrown out and the Hawks got their butt kicked
last night.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
So so is that worth a technical? Embarrassing a referee?
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
I mean I think so it's I mean, unless you're
the Harlem Globe Trotters and you go out there and
throw a bucket of water or confetti on the ref's head.
I don't think you can just do that in the NBA.
So yeah, I would say that that's deserving of a
technical foul.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Yeah, in the Final four, I don't remember which game
it was. It maybe in the championship game, there was
a technical foul for bouncing the ball to and it
was immediately to me the George moment. I don't know
if it was for you, but I felt like every
single time I see that, it will forever be ingrained
in my memory.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yeah, Josh doing me too? Like is that?
Speaker 2 (15:13):
I wonder what the exact role is on dribbling the
ball too high? Like if you bounce it over your head,
is that too high? If I bounce it like to
my face, is that too high? Is it the referees discretion?
Speaker 1 (15:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
I don't know all over the shoulder that's going to
be a tech on you? Yeah, yeah, I don't know,
but we saw it happen the.
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Were you impressed as impressed as I was yesterday on
the Show Billy with Ryan Lemon's his baseball numbers, his
college baseball numbers that Corey Price found pretty impressive if
he went like forty four for his first forty four
and stolen basis.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Yeah, how about our guy batting three fifty four in
nineteen eighty eight, playing fifty three games in one hundred
and thirteen at bats. And not only that, in that season,
our guy had a season high.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Forty one steals out of forty nine attempts.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
I mean, I've heard about this whole illustrious record at
Kentucky Wesleyan and Ryan being the stolen bags leader, but
I didn't know our guy was batting sub three hundred
not only his junior but his senior year where he
added two ninety five, so total he batted three hundred
over his four years.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
That gets you in the Hall of Fame, she does.
I mean, that's like a really fast Tony gwyn. You know,
Tony Gwinn was a really good hitter, but he was
also chunky. Like Tony Gwinn couldn't steal one hundred and
six bases in four years not happening?
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Well, maybe he couldn't.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Like you can't really compare I guess you one hundred
and sixty two game season to what you're playing in college.
I'm just saying, Tony Gwinn's not going one six for
one nineteen and stolen bases our boy Ryan Lemon did.
And what's even more, like just mind blowing for me,
Billy is having those stats in front of me and
then having Ryan Lemon in front of me on the
pickleball court. This guy can barely move left or right,
(17:38):
and I'm going, wait, this guy, that guy right there
is the all time leading stolen base record holder at
Kentucky Wesleyans.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
It's kind of hard hard to believe.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Now, Yeah, you mentioned in him in the same sentence
as Tony Gwinn. I mean, we stretch here on the
pre show, but that might be an all time stretch.
But here's some more all time records for Ryan Lemon.
Most run scores, He's fourth on the all time list
in Kentucky wesley In history with one hundred and twenty one.
He's got the fifth highest on base percentage in school history,
the fifth highest stolen base percentage, almost ninety percent of
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the stolen bases he's stolen as successful. So I mean
our guy was lighting it up. I would kill for
some old footage of Ryan playing back in the day.
You know, we've heard that Andy has found the Andy
Griffith Show episode with him on it. Still waiting for
him to be revealed.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
And found the Andy was onto Andy Griffith.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Show you're not sorry, Sorry, Jerry Springer. Yes, if he
was on the Andy Griffith show, that'd be time traveling. Yeah,
rare footage, but yeah, somebody called in and said that
was found and that was going to be revealed. I
have not seen that yet, So I would love to
see Andy on that show and then Ryan. I don't
know if it's black and white footage back in the day, Shannon,
(18:52):
but I'd love to see our guy doing his thing.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
You know, they say you lose a step or two
when you get a little older. I mean I feel
like he's lost about ten or eleven steps this point.
But I'd like to get Ryan just out on the
like a baseball field, to see, like, what's his time
from first to second?
Speaker 1 (19:06):
You know, at the age of whatever. He is fifty
eight now.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Now you did see him circle the bases at Williamsport,
So I mean, is there were there any flashes of
that the in rounding third or was it just ruined
by the sprinkler that he could.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
I don't think he was going for speed on that one.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
He was just doing his home run trot okay as
the sprinklers were coming on, and you know, that was
the whole thing that led to us getting a call
from Homeland Security the next day, which is still an
all time CHASR moment that we even first of all,
that we even did that, and that Ryan jumped on
the field.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Yeah, then Homeland Security.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Calling us as we're sitting on the porch of an
airbnb in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Was that the same trip that he spray painted his head? Yeah,
I'm with the spray on hair, and then he leaned
up against like a restaurant wall and there was an
imprint of the spray paint that had been left there.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
I mean, he was leaving as mark every where he went.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Like when we got in the car his I think
we had a speed bomp in his head hit the
the interior roof of the car and there was a
big black stain. I think that was Matt's car that
we took that trip to. So there's a chance that
Ryan Lemon's like I guess spray paint for lack of
a better term, that we put on his ball spot
(20:21):
is now still on the inside of Matt's car.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
I was hoping you were going to say it was
a rental and you're gonna have to go back to
Mario's enterprise.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Let's say, sir, what is this really weird black spot
on the inside of the car? Oh not that we
just spray painted our friend's head and it rubbed off. Now,
speaking of baseball, Kentucky Baseball won on a walk off
yesterday over Miami. They have the number two team in America, Tennessee,
coming up. That would have been a bad loss, by
(20:49):
the way, if they lost to that Miami team yesterday.
So they got Tennessee coming up. They've also got top
fifteen LOBI coming up as well, So a couple of
big opportunities for Menge owing to get this thing rolling up.
I believe they're twenty and fourteen on the year now,
but still some big opportunities to get some wins coming out.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
But Shannon, not just to walk off a walk off bunt.
So that is two games in the last three that
Kentucky has won via walkoff and via walkoff bunt. I mean,
how many times have you seen that? Is that Kentucky's
best offense. We're just gonna bunt small ball? Baby, We're back, Hey,
MinJe owned small ball is back.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
I mean, man, look, bunting is a thing that seems
like it's almost extinct in Major League Baseball now, like
you never see it.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
You never see a sack bunt anymore.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
But good to see that Minjion is still able to
play small ball, and you know he's kind of taking
that approach in the past couple of seasons. If you
don't have guys that can hit home runs, just play
small ball, just you know, out smart them and out
out maneuver of them for a lack of a better tune.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Yeah, and in the last nineteen games, fourteen of them
have been decided by three runs or less. In those games,
Kentucky's five and nine. So what did you say their
record was.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
I think, by the way twenty and fourteen, I.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Mean very easily, you know, could be even better than that. So,
you know, I think people are quick to jump on
this team and say they're not as talented maybe in
years past that min Jones had. I think that they've
been in a lot of close games and a tough conference,
and it's all about making the NCAA tournament, right, So
if they can hold on and do that, then anything's possible.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
In case softball beat your Hilltoppers last night too.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Yeah, I don't want to run roll them back, then
back to back, three home runs back to back to
but you don't see.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
That very often.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Well, shout out Western Kentucky Baseball. They're great this year.
I wouldn't want to play them and.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Take your phone calls.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Coming up eight five nine two eight h twenty two
eighty seven, Welcome back. It is the KSR pre show
Blink twent eighty two right here. All the Small Things
a song that my band Alice Bluegun Covers will be playing.
By the way, our next show is coming up a
week from Saturday. We're going to be at ten roof
in Saint Matthew's at eight o'clock, so.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Come on out for that.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
But I'm playing Blink twe eighty two Billy, because I
want to ask you, do you believe Mark Hoppis from
Blink twent eighty two? Do you know the story about
Mark hoppis saying that he believes that he played a
big role in capturing Saddam Husain. This just came out
a few days ago on a podcast, and this is
in his book that he just wrote. But do you
(23:15):
believe that Mark Copps actually played a role in capturing
Saddam Husain?
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Twenty two years ago.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Well, tell me why he thinks that, because I don't
know this story. So what was Saddam a big Blink
one eighty two fan and our soldiers heard him playing
it from the other room or what's the story?
Speaker 2 (23:30):
So the story goes that Blink one eighty two was
playing I guess a show on like an aircraft or
like some sort of some sort of military based show
that they were doing. I'm not exactly sure like what
the venue was that they were playing. But because of this,
Mark Coppas ends up having dinner with a Navy admiral
(23:53):
on board an aircraft carrier in the Persian Gulf and
he says to this admiral, I have an idea on
how we can catch Saddam Hussein.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Now when you're when now we're in a navy.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Admiral and a rock star sitting there having dinner with you,
and he says, I think I can help you catch
Saddam Hussein.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
You'll probably just laugh at the guy, right I would.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Oh, yeah, absolutely, It's like stay in your element here, Mark,
But yeah, you can humor me.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Continue, tell me what you think.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
So I guess at the time, every night Saddam Hussein
was putting out these little broadcasts like videos, and he
would send them out to all of his his followers.
So Mark Happas goes, you know, Saddam's putting out these videos.
We can use drones to fly all over the region
where we think that he might be in different patterns,
(24:41):
and the broadcasting time codes go up, and you'll be
able to catch that through I guess like somehow, like
through through the signals that are broadcasted out there. You
can pinpoint kind of where he's at by flying drones
over the area that you think that he may be
hiding in.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Okay, So if I throw drones above somebody and I
guess he broadcasts that video, then I can tell that
he's there if my drone's in the right place.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Is that what you're telling? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (25:07):
If they and they have technology that can, like, you know,
I guess figure out where those signals are coming from,
you hook that onto the drone And sure.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Enough, the admiral takes this advice.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Three months later, they do exactly what Mark Hoppus suggested
and they capture Saddam Hussein based off of his suggestion
on how you could catch them. Now, is that a
little too far fetched? That a rock star actually gave
a Navy admiral some advice on how to catch Saddam
and they actually used it and it happened worked well.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Let's say Kentuck he's playing Tennessee in the Sweet sixteen,
and you get Mark Pope's ear and you say, hey, Mark,
you know, I think you should play a one three
one zone. They're very susceptible to it. They won't play
as well if you play a one three to one defense.
Mark Pope goes out there, they don't play well in
the first half, but they implement a one three one
zone in the second half and they end up coming
back to win. I think, Shannon, the dudes the reason
(26:04):
why Kentucky won the game.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
There you go, so you can't believe so according to
the quote. According to the quote, he says they were
able to pull the ultrasonic data and triangulate the drones
that you have flying over, and they were able to
pick up the signal.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Now, the players still got to go play and hit
those shots and play defense. The soldiers still have to
go capture Saddam. But if you helped set up the
winning strategy, I can't help but not think that you
would be a big.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Part of that.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
So didn't think i'd start by saying Blink one eighty
two did help capture.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Shaddami, saying, but I guess I guess that he did.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
It's a strange story. I'm sitting here reading this, going
really is this? Of course, you know, it's just his memoir.
We have no way of telling if he's just making
up the.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Story or not.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
But I saw that headline, I'm like, wow, that's that's
that's interesting. Mark Hoppas from Blink twenty two is taking
down foreign terrorist.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
And then you know, remember when.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
We call it Ben Lauden, we had The Rock as
the first person that actually broke.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
The news somehow, like.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Like somehow these celebrities are tied into like major captures
a foreign terrorist. The Rock somehow beat Obama putting out
the release that we had discaptured Ben Lauden.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
And we just everybody's so patriotic, they just want to help.
I remember Osama bin Lauden was announced. It was announced
on my birthday May first, So yeah, my joke was
you're welcome America when that happened. But that is that
is bizarre, And thank you for your service to Mark
Hapfas and everything he did. I'm reading some about it now,
and he recalled during his book how much sand blew
(27:41):
on them and in their faces in just a few
hours that they're there. I guess the wind was really bad,
and so I can't imagine they were there for just
a couple hours. Imagine doing a whole tour over there.
You know, so a big, a thankless job being a soldier,
no doubt. Can I match your weird story with a
weird story? Let's go, because we talked about erasing memories
a little bit. Yeah, yesterday we didn't get to the story,
but we mentioned it. Did you ever see the movie
(28:04):
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind?
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Not only have I seen it, if you actually listen
to what I say every day on the show, you
would know that that is my favorite movie of all time.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Like I've mentioned, I love that obviously.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
In that movie one hundred times, it's Jim Carrey Kate Winslet,
a couple that end up breaking up. Then they go
to this place that can erase the memory of each
other from their minds.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Mark Ruffalo, I think it's the greatest movie ever.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Well, this could be coming to reality, real life sooner
than maybe expect. Recent advancements in neuroscience are beginning to
bring this concept to life. Researchers are using techniques to
reduce the emotional impact of painful memories. So maybe not
completely erasing it yet, but maybe you don't have the
(28:53):
same emotions if you think about something. This would bring
potential relief for people suffering from things like PTSD depression.
Many things, many reasons why you might elect to get
a memory taken away. But Shannon, I might argue, your
memories and your experiences make you who you are. You know,
and if you're going to pick and choose what memories
(29:14):
you want to keep and what experiences you want to
think about, then you are truly not living the human existence.
But I would be a hypocrite to say there aren't
some things in my life that I'd like to forget. So, Shannon,
I mean kind of a scary science concept. But would
you ever want to erase a memory from your mind?
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Hmm?
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Maybe maybe a NXT girlfriend or yeah, well I mean
at an event maybe, Like I don't know, Like I'm thinking, like,
would you want to erase like the memory of a
death of a close friend. But then if you erase that,
do you also erase the memory of them ever existing, right,
Because if you don't remember that they died, that I
guess in your mind you would think that they were
(29:54):
still alive.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
That would be really confusing.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
There were some beautiful moments at the funeral that you
may not remember anymore, and that helps you, you know,
grieve and get over the things that you have.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Yeah, I don't. I don't think I would, would.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
You No, But that's because I've had a pretty easy life.
You know, we're talking about soldiers in Iraq and capturing
Saddam Hussein. I can think of countless people with PTSD
that would really benefit from forgetting things in their life.
So that's why I see this technology and I think
this could be a really good thing for us. But
(30:29):
if it's gonna be Katy Perry getting in a rocket
ship to be in space for four minutes, Shannon, if
it's gonna be five grand and I can erase any
memory that I want, then it's a slippery slope, right.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
I mean, there's a conspiracy theory on Katy Perry going
to space. By the way, we'll talk about that on
the other side of this break. Okay, to here, let
me just pose the question for Kentucky fans. You have
the yea, the ability to erase oh bad memory. I mean,
is everybody just going to answer the Laightner shot? Is
that everybody's going to answer? You have the you have
(31:01):
the chance. You can you can e raise one UK
memory that you wish never happened, and you know it
happens still, but you don't remember it happening. Is it
the Latner shot? Is it? Is it the Wisconsin games?
Speaker 1 (31:18):
And how old you are? I think?
Speaker 3 (31:19):
I mean the Wisconsin game and Drake may were the
two that came to mind for me. I'd like to
erase your memory because it's Isaac Humphreys that hit the
ball on the ground, not Jeorts. Towards the last segment,
I'll erase your memory there and say tell you that
I said Isaac got that switched. But I think majority
of the answer is probably later, right you just I mean,
such a beloved group.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
And what about a memory you would like to erase,
like from the from the show or from your existence
in KSR other than the one you just.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Gave you getting stuck in the bathroom.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Probably well, I'll tell you I'm never gonna forget that,
because I've still got the video now that you brought that,
I might have to retweet that. I mean, have to
tweet that out again later on.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
I mean I was fine with it for like thirty
minutes and then it was like forty five fifty and
I was like over it, Shan.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Where were we?
Speaker 3 (32:07):
We were doing a show's landing, right. They put us
on the lake.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
They put all of us up in a like a
little house, cabin, whatever you want to call it. Billy
goes to the bathroom, tries to get out, can't get out.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Stuck.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
None of us can get them out. Billy can't open
the door from the inside. We can't open the door
from the outside. We had to call the landlord to come,
like get a bulldozer and like knock down the door
to get Billy out of the restroom.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
And you were, you were, You were in there for
like a solid hour.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Well, I was ready to kick it down, and Matt
was like, do not kick it down.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Like these people are nice. They're letting your use their
house for free. We didn't know that it had trap
doors in it.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Well, if you remember, we didn't have cell phone service.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
That was the other thing we didn't have any cell phones,
so I think somebody had to go drive to defind.
You know, we couldn't call the fire department to chisel
you out.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
So we had to go.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
We had to go up on a hill to make
a call to the maintenance man who may or may
not have been having a good time that night. Shannon
and had to be driven to the place.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
I'm gonna say, help is that. I'm gonna say he
definitely was having a good time.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
But the whole time, I mean fifty minutes, I'm in
the bathroom and Shannon is just belly laughing for forty
five of it. I mean, he is just loving every single.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
All the rooms to get stuck in in a house, Like,
you didn't get stuck in a bedroom. You got stuck
in this little, tiny bathroom. And if you were claustrophobic
at all, I mean that would have been a real
problem for you.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
But yeah, you were stuck in there.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
And then at one point we pulled the doorknob off
and we could see you, like just through the hole.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
It was like the shining.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Yeah, that was a funny picture of me and that
just through the doorknob. But I'm gonna I'm gonna flip
it to you. Yeah, what would you like to erase?
I mean, was it you dressing up as Dorothy trying
to be a hitchhiker on the side of the.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Road, or was that was awesome? What are you talking about?
Speaker 5 (33:53):
That?
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Was that was fun? That day? I mean that was
the most fun I've ever had in Kansas. I mean
that's not saying much.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Uh, maybe my first day on KSR with Matt first day, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
And the screaming match that ensued in Tony ben Eddie's
office yeah after.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Yeah, where Matt was a complete jerk about me being
on the show and I didn't even know I was
going to be on the show. I thought I was
just coming in to push buttons.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Were you shanning the Dude back then? Or were you
shanning Griggsby? What are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (34:17):
I was shanning the dude long rock, long before KSR. Okay,
like when I started, I've been shanning the dude since
two thousand and three. Baby, this brand's been going for
a long time. We're talking about twenty two years. It
was established long before KSR.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Hell, you want to go back to first days? Matt
takes a picture of me and says, here's Shannon the
dudes filling with his mustache and his mullet. You can
imagine what the twitter comments. We did get a little
roasted that day.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
But yeah, tweet us at Shannon the dude at Billy
our sports a UK memory, you would have a race
from your mind.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Let's take a call. Let's go to j what's up Jay?
Speaker 5 (34:53):
Hey, guys, great show is always this morning. As far
as Wilkerson goes for Indiana, I mean, he says he
wants to, he doesn't want to be just another guy
at Kentucky, but he's just gonna be another guy Indiana
because he's gonna have to play behind or with Tucker
Debrees and that's the coach's son. Yeah, I mean, so
(35:15):
he's not going up there and getting volume shooting because
West Virginia would have been a lot better had Tucker
not gotten injured this past season. And he's the reason
why Drake did so well in the tournament was because
of his son. And do you think that coach Debrees
is gonna give, you know, let let Wilkerson have the
volume shooting over Tucker. I don't think so. So have
(35:38):
fun of paren Bloomington and maybe you can find the
chair that Bobby threw and have a seat in it
on the sideline.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Thanks for the call, Jay, Thank you Jay. To that point,
I had a similar question on the text line I
want to pose to you, Shannon. Are we worried at
all that if you come here you'll play thirty five minutes?
If you play for Pope, you'll only get twenty is
a valid pitch opposing coaches can use on recruits against Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
I don't look at that as negative recruiting necessarily. I mean,
do you want to do you want to play for
a winning program? Or is it all about how many
minutes you get? Now, some people may say it is
all about the amount of money and how many minutes
you're gonna give me, But again, I don't think you
can promise that. What if the guy gets there is
not good and you just promised him I'm gonna give
(36:23):
you a thirty three minutes a game and he gets
there and he sucks Nowton edwards. Yeah, Now, as a coach,
are you going to keep your promise and keep playing
the guy even though he's terrible? Or are you going
to go back on your word? So all these promises
the coaches have to make. Again, I said this yesterday.
I would not want to be in their position. And
I also think that the amount of money that a
(36:45):
lot of these guys say they're making, I don't believe
that either.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
I don't think you want those guys that are expecting
the playing time and expecting the bigger paydays. I think
that weeds them out for you.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
But here is the.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
Situation that you're going to see in the near future.
Let's take the Tennessee quarterback Nico for a second. I
think there will be a day where Nico looks to
the sideline before a big play and says, hey, I
need an extra five hundred thousand, No, I need an
extra million before I go out there versus Bamlets today,
you're going to hold out for more and you and
I fully expect somebody to hold out before a play
(37:16):
like that, Shannon. The leverage is in the player's hands.
And until we see some change with this house settlement
or with legislation, then I think there will be a
day where something like that happens.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
And that is madness, is it not? It is? It is?
Speaker 2 (37:29):
And I would expect that there would be some sort
of regulation come sooner than later. Otherwise you're just going
to continue to hear more stories like we had with
Nico and Tennessee. We're way late for a break. Let's
take that. We'll take more phone calls. Coming up next
eight five, nine, two, eight oh twenty two eighty seven.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
It's the ksrpre Show. Final segment of the KSR pre.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Show, Shannon the Dude and Billy Reutledge is a little
Katy Perry right here. I'll get to the Katy Pirie
conspiracy theory in just a minute. But last segment, we
were talking about we're getting closer to being able to
erase people's minds, and I asked, is there a UK memory,
UK sports related memory that you would want to erase
from your mind?
Speaker 1 (38:07):
You have some answers on the text machine. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
The majority of answers are the Latner shot in the
Wisconsin game, a couple others. One mentions Drake May in
North Carolina. Saint Peter's in Oakland is a popular answer.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
All of the Billy g.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
Seasons is another answer that somebody has said. And then
one interesting one somebody said is the Reps runts lost
to Texas Western in the National championship game. That game
unfairly cast coach Rupp as a racist in UK as
a racist school. Plus those guys are still some of
my favorite Wildcats of all time. At least the movie
did I mean, do you ever see it?
Speaker 4 (38:41):
Was it?
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Glory Road?
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Shannon and the Rupp was not cast in a favorable
light at all in that movie. And those are some
memories that UK fans would like to erase.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Which one are you picking? Is it gonna be Latener?
You only get one? Is it Latner, Oakland or Saint Peter's?
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Well, I mean Wisconsin. Wisconsin's the other one.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
I think it's Wisconsin for me. I mean, Saint Peter's
in Oakland identified an issue with Kentucky basketball that needed
to be changed, and hopefully it's a good point.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
That's a good point.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Yeah, I mean it actually accelerated that process of moving
on from Cal.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
So I think I'm gonna go with that.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
That's true if you go back and you revise history
and cal doesn't lose in the first round to Oakland
and Saint Peter's very good chance he's still here as
the head coach, and maybe we're still dealing with the
issues that that we had. But then again, if you
don't lose those games, maybe maybe you don't have those
issues per.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Se, Maybe they make a final four.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
It's amazing how like, you know, one one game ultimately
can kind of decide a coach's career path.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Just a ripple effect of racing memories will be be widespread.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Let's say, let's say cal you know, beat Saint Peter's
and beat Oakland and went out in the round of
thirty two.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Is he still the coach here?
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Maybe because it was just such like a shock that
they lost to Saint Peter's in Oakland.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
It was like you were a laughing stock.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
Right, Maybe you lose in the round to thirty two
and people can explain understand that more.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
All right, let me get to this Katy Perry conspiracy theory.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
You know, yeah, totally talking yesterday about Katy Perry and
Gil King and all these female celebrities going up into
space for four minutes. Well, the latest conspiracy. I love
this when we get into summer shows conspiracy theories. There's
a lot of skeptics out there, Billy that think that
it was Hollywood fake, claiming it to be the worst
cgi of any fake space agencies.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Ever produced.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
You know, there's a lot of people that think that
the Moon landing didn't exist ruston p s Jared Lorenzen.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
But do you think there's.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Any chance that this was CGI? There's conspiracy theorists out
there that say that they were filming all this in
a studio and the crew was floating in tanks of water.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
No, I don't think that it's completely fake because I
think it's easy enough to do.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
Yeah, right, I mean, I think.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
Going to the moon and back there is some room
for argument that is a tough ask. But going into
space for three four minutes, Shannon, I feel like that
can be done by our technology. So I think we
are stupid enough of it as a society to send
up Gail King and Katie Perry and Lauren Sanchez. So
I'm gonna go know, but I you know, did you
see what she did? Like they landed and she like
(41:16):
kissed the ground and it was all like theatrical So
they definitely did play it up.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Well, I mean I don't know what the point of
any of that is, and I definitely don't know what
the point of just CGI in it instead of actually
doing it would be.
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