2025-04-25- KSR PRE-SHOW

Shannon The Dude and Billy Rutledge talk NFL Draft and take your calls.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Oh, welcome everyone. It's another edition of the KSR pre Show.
Today is Friday, April twenty fifth. I'm Billy Rutledge along
with Shannon the Dude. You can give us calling the
Clark's Pump and Shop phone line. That's eight five nine
two eight h two two eight seven. Text us at

(00:24):
five oh two two sixty five six six five six,
and it's always The KSR pre Show is brought to
you by Italics Fine Italian Dining in Lexington, Kentucky. Here
on Main Street at the City Center. It's a feel
good Friday. We're gonna have a fun time talking about
a lot of different topics today. But I was laughing
to start the show because Shannon showed me a clip

(00:44):
I did not see from the NFL Draft last night,
and that was Clay Matthews telling everybody that the bear
still sucks.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Oh he stole the show man. I thought, oh, that
was great. I almost felt like we should play that
audio just because you are so good it. Give me
a minute to set it up here, but yeah, okay,
we'll come back to it in a minute.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
So yeah, give us a call. Be our whiskey thief
call of the day. As we inch closer to the
Kentucky Derby. We'll talk a lot about the Kentucky basketball
roster and maybe some of the interviews that we had
yesterday on KSR. But right before the show started, Shannon
the Dude invited me to his Kentucky Derby party. And
if you're listening to the ksrpre show, you know all

(01:21):
about Shannon and his super secret parties.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
I had to remind Shannon that I'm actually working the derby,
but he tells me he just wanted to invite me
to make sure that I don't cry about it when
I didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
That's right. Yeah, you know you'll you'll be in louisvill
which is not that far away from where I live.
You know, probably a good thirty five maybe forty minute drive,
depending on what traffic's like. But yeah, you're welcome to
come out if you want to, because I always have
to hear about it when word gets out that I
had any sort of get together that did not include
you or any of the KSR guys. I mean, you
guys don't live in Louisville. If you did, i'd have

(01:52):
you over every weekend. Oh please, that's bs.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
I know it's not I appreciate the sentiment, but you
would not be fighting for every single weekend. Well, not
all of you, some of you may be, Okay, I
could read between the lines there.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
No, I'm just kidding. I would have all you got.
But that's I mean, that's the thing. Like all you
guys live in Lesington. I live in Louisville, so you know,
we don't get to really hang out much.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
I will be at Churchill Downs from like seven am
to seven pm, and then maybe if I fight through
forty five minutes of traffic. Are you still going to
be drinking having a good time at eight o'clock at night?
Or is the party going to be over?

Speaker 2 (02:24):
What do you talk? What kind of derby party ends
at seven or eight o'clock? Yeah? Man, of course the
party would just be getting started at that point.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Come on, man, I mean, please, you have a couple
of mimosas you watch you big race, so then you
pass out of that? How you supply that's you? Do
you think that with your shoes on? I learned that
the hard way in college. No.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
No, you're more than welcome to come out if you
want to. I haven't even haven't even set out the
Facebook invites yet, Billy, Wow, it can't be official till
you get the Facebook invite on the Facebook events.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Well, I feel special this morning, So thank you for
making me feel seen. Still talk about it probably every
day next.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Try just don't share it with anybody else.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, it's just us talking anyway. Yeah, So it was
a great night. Maxwell Harriston gets drafted to the Buffalo Bills.
It could not be a more perfect landing spot for
our guy. It's gonna be a place where he can
make an impact immediately for a good team, a team
that's going to be competing for AFC championships and Super Bowls.
He teams up with Ray Davis, which I absolutely love.

(03:23):
But Shannon, how about our guy giving a hug to
almost every recruit that was drafted last night. Maxwell was
was situated kind of near I guess where every person
that was drafted had to go, and so he was
kind of the last guy, last man in the line,
and he was giving everybody hugs and it was such
a feel good moment from the draft last night.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
He was so I don't know if I've ever seen
anybody happier at in an NFL draft than Harriston last night.
I was really happy for him. Yeah, and he was.
He was ecstatic as he should have been. And you know,
that's a good spot, like you said, for Buffalo to
be the team he'll be playing for now. It's you know,
a lot of guys get drafted, they go to a
terrible team. Kind of best situation, right, I mean, I
know it's late in the first round, but late in

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the first round, that's where all the good teams are, right.
So if you're not gonna go you know, up a
little further, maybe around like twenty, might as well go
thirty and you know, work your way into uh, you know,
a better contract after a year or two, and you're
in a good.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Situation with Buffalo. I like the jacket that he had on.
He looked good, looked like he was in a good mood.
And now the three star prospect from Detroit becomes the
highest selected Kentucky football defensive back. I guess highest selected
Kentucky football defensive back in NFL draft program history with
the thirtieth pick. The previous best was Melvin Johnson in
nineteen ninety five. He was picked forty thirds. So a

(04:41):
big congratulations to Maxwell Harriston. We now have rounds two
and three today, and when you've got quite a few
different prospects still on the board from Kentucky, whether it
be Eli Cox, Deon Walker, jam and Dumas Johnson, even
JJ Weaver. Maybe a lot of those guys will be
drafted on Saturday. But Shannon, we've heard a lot about

(05:02):
Eli Cox and Dion Walker. Hopefully they can also find
a good landing.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Spot just like Matt. Yeah, I know Dion's stock has
sort of tanked here recently. You know, I was hoping
for better news on him. But you know, these guys still,
if they go into the second round, there's always a
chance you can fight your way onto a roster, end
up somewhere, and then you know, depending on how you play,
you never know where the world will take you in
the NFL. I mean, how you look at Tom Brady,

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where was he drafted sixth round with the one hundred
and ninety ninth pick. There you go. So just because
you're not in the first round doesn't mean you can't
have a successful career and turn out to be a
Hall of Famer.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
That's right, That's right. Even mister irrelevant can find his
place in the NFL. Like Brock perty did, and even
Marty Moore if you want to go back to the
old Kentucky days. All right, let's talk about everything else
about the NFL Draft. I love how the it's become
an event. I went to it in Nashville and braved
the crowds. But green Bay, the smallest market in the NFL,

(05:58):
showed out last night for the NFL Draft. I don't
know how much money the Sanders family paid mel Kiper junior,
but if you watched any of the ESPN coverage last night, Shannon,
it was embarrassing. It's a shame to all the other
prospects that was drafted. How much they talked about Schadur
and and we understand as much as anybody it's about entertainment, right,

(06:19):
and people care about Shader Sanders. But Shannon cam Ward
was the first overall pick, and they I think they
talked about him for about two minutes. The rest was
about the custom draft room that Shadur had with his
family about you know, why he's not being picked, all
the intangibles that he has. I thought he was an
absolute embarrassing performance from Melkuiper and ESPN.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Lesson, He's still sitting there, still waiting and still waiting.
You know, you look at all these projected, these mock drafts, right,
and people put so much stock into those. All these
mock drafts had Sanders going at least, you know, first round, right.
I don't think any the ones that I saw, I
didn't see anybody have them in the second round. And
yet here he is. So I just wonder, you know

(07:01):
how many teams out there just don't want to put
up with all the pageantry that comes along with everything else. Yeah, right,
you know, do you want to deal with that drama?
Do you want to have to hear from Dion? I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
Kids not playing and we're gonna get a call from
Dion like hey, you're not doing what you're supposed.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
To be doing.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Like, shut up, Dion, this isn't about you. I mean,
I understand the baggage that comes with Chadur and the celebrations. Right,
he's flexing his watch. There's no more polarizing figure than
Shader Sanders, but there should be some unbiased coverage and
ESPN did not have that last night.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Now.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
I did love when Kelvin Banks Junior was drafted by
the New Orleans Saints right before it cut away from
Kelvin Banks and his family, we saw a baby puke
in the corner of the screen.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Which I love. These are always like, there's always like
one or two little quirky moments of the NFL draft
that you're always going to remember, you know, And this
is the I think this might be the one for
this year.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
The girld friends and the mom interactions have always been
good throughout the years.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
Right.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
It was Isaiah Wilson who had his girlfriend on his
lap and his mom basically threw the girlfriend off of
his lap because she was getting too much TV time
many years ago. But the baby puked on camera. You know,
it blew up the internet and everybody was saying, or
at least parents were saying, that was not puke, it
was spit up. Shannon, do you know the difference between

(08:24):
puke and spit up?

Speaker 2 (08:26):
No? I thought that was kind of the same thing. I.
I don't know, we're gonna really dissect the difference between
puke and I spit up would be like, you know,
it's just kind of stuck in your throat. I guess
puke would technically be it's coming from the bottom of
your stomach. I don't know. I get that. That's my analysis.
I just wanted to hear you break it down.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
I wanted to know if you knew the difference as
a couple of people that don't have kids. I'm gonna
guess the differences. Vomit is more of coming from your
stomach and food, while maybe the baby is maybe more milk.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
I'm looking at it right now watching the video, just
trickling down his chin.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
Look bad timing. Bad timing is right before they cut away.
But this is what the internet was for.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Well, Moss was clapping and she was shaking that baby,
and as the baby's getting shaken in the middle of
the handclaps, that just throws up all over itself.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Well, yeah, you pat him on the back a couple
of times. Look at the parents out there are rolling
their eyes.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
It's such a.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Normal thing, but for us to see it on National
TV last night, it was phenomenal.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Look, if Tracy Morgan can throw up all over hisself
on live TV, then the baby can too. Right, did
we ever talk about Tracy because he threw up a
lot That was at the next game.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Right at the next game, he went to the hospital.
Glad he was okay afterwards, but my man had made
no effort to like cup his shirt or like maybe
go into his drink.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
I mean, that was per check. I thought maybe I
had accidentally switched the channel to The Exorcist. I didn't know.
I was watching the next game looking at Tracy Morgan
over there. It's crazy, No, it was. It was bizarre.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
That would feel like that was a couple of months
ago at this point. One of the biggest stories of
the draft comes from our guy, Liam Cohen. The Jacksonville
Jaguars trade with the Cleveland Browns to move from the
fifth pick to the second to take Travis Hunter, the
two way player that plays both corner and receiver. Don't
know what he's gonna do in the NFL, but now
Liam Cohen has a new weapon. They'll give up a

(10:17):
first round pick in the next year. People think Jacksonville overpaid,
but I think they wanted to make a splash, and
now somebody that we're very familiar with will get to
coach one of the more interesting prospects we've seen in
college football in Travis Hunter.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
That was a great move to trade up and get him. Man,
Travis Hunter is a hell of a Oh you think so,
I think it was Yeah, Oh I thought it was
a terrible I didn't think so really, yeah, it was
the downside of Travis Hunter.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Well, like, I think he's good. I think he's good
as a corner and he's good as a receiver, but
he's not great. And you're gonna have to choose one
side of the ball, right, They're not gonna He's not
gonna play both sides of the ball in the NFL, right,
I mean, it's.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
It's good to know that he can well. If so,
more power to him.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
But like, I don't think he's gonna be great rate
at either corner or receiver.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
In college, he was cool because he did both. But
Tom will tell Tom will tell on that.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
The League of Specialization and sure, you know, Liam Cohen,
I'm sure we'll have some tricks up his sleeve for
him and maybe he can develop into a great player.
But it felt pretty desperate from Jacksonville to give up
their pick next year only to move up three spots.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
But look, you see your guy, you want your guy,
Go get your guys. So that original spot that they had,
what was it number? What fifth number?

Speaker 1 (11:26):
They were in fifth and then they went up to second,
went up to say to give up a whole their
whole pick next year, their second pick this year, the
fifth pick. The Browns took a defensive lineman from Michigan.
It just all depends on what you need on your team,
that's right, you know. I think that he's he's a
good addition for what they need on that team. It's
it's Lion season two and uh, you know they'll tell

(11:48):
you they want one guy, and they actually wanted somebody
else the entire time. But now it's time to play
the Clay Matthews clip. I did not see this until
this morning, maybe minutes before the show, and Shannon told
me to look at Twitter account. I watched pretty much
the whole draft with the sound off because I was
at a bar, ye Shannon, So I did.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Not get to see this.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Let's play Clay Matthews, who was getting ready to introduce
one of the next picks with Roger.

Speaker 4 (12:12):
But I just got off the phone with the President,
Donald Trump. He asked me to pass a message along
thirty two NFL franchises.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
I saw that, so I go, oh, this could be
really bad.

Speaker 4 (12:24):
Let me tell you what it reads here, all right,
it says, my fellow Americans, the.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
Bear still side.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
As a Packers fan, I gotta tell you I loved it.
I loved every second of it. But what w He
said he got a message from the President. I'm gona
Oh boy, I was so worried, said that you're gonna
divide the fan base. Here we go.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
I don't care about Clay Matthews, but you're bringing up
President Trump at the draft. It's gonna be nothing but divisive.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
And we'll set that aside if you can take off
your political goggles for a half a second as a
Packers fan. That was pretty awesome. Oh that was so good.
That was a great troll job by Clay Matthews.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
And we've seen some people do well in the past.
I think Pat McAfee's done it before. I think there
was another kicker, maybe Jay Feely, that did it where
they go on these rants before they give a pick.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
So I don't think it was in the script. I
think he went completely a wrong. He's like, you know what,
live Mike, what are they gonna do about it? What
are you gonna do?

Speaker 1 (13:23):
It's live, Okay, you're the producer in the truck and
Clay Matthews has just brought up President Trump, Like, where's
he going with this. You gotta think the beads of
sweat going down their forehead at that point. It's going
to be unbelievable. But that kind of wraps up our
wrap up of the first round of the NFL Draft.
Congratulations to Max Harriston. He becomes what the one, two,

(13:46):
three fourth player selected in the first round in the
UK Coach stoops? Eric, can you tell me the other three?

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Shannon? This is a tough trivia.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
Hmmm.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Any other coach stoops players drafted in the first round
besides Maxwell Harriston, And I'll give you one. Bud Dupree
was the twenty second pick of fifteen, so there was
one in twenty nineteen and twenty twenty one, both on
the defensive side.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
One is a pass rusher. I don't know, ye, there's
just time.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Go ahead and tell me it's Josh Allen, ok, Josh
Jamon Davis or the two?

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Well I should have gotten Josh Allen.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Josh Allen still in the league, Yeah, doing great things.
Jamie Davis, I don't know where he's at now. I
think he's flamed out a little bit after he was
drafted by Washington. But big congratulations to Max Harrison. We're
going to take our first break. When we come back,
we'll talk a little bit about the interviews that Brandon
Garrison and Cash Daniel had on KSR yesterday. Shannon, I
have a list of the ESPN Top one hundred NBA

(14:41):
Draft prospects in twenty twenty five, and I want you
to guess where you think otega Oway lands on that list.
And uh, much more nonsense on the way. I may
just play the clip of the twins talking again, just
because of the hell of it.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
I may watch that two or three more times. Yester
got a gone he written than the Bush. Still cannot
get over that clip that we played. Yes, I'm so
fascinated by it, the two twins that talk in Unison.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Yeah, and I got people texting me all day yesterday
about identical twins and the weird things.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
That's the thing. Yeah, I did too, you know. That
was the one takeaway from the show yesterday. Wasn't any
of the Kentucky talk or anything else to do with
Kentucky sports. It was all about the telepathic twins. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Here's a story quickly before we go to break. My
husband went into the hospital with kidney stones and severe
pain his brother called him because he said he started
having a bit of a stomach ache, and my husband
popped into his mind and he called to make sure
he was okay.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
No way can they feel the pain thousands of miles away.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
I don't know if I believe that. One my tummy hurts.
My brother must be in trouble. Oh, he's passing a
kidney stone right now. That is crazy. But we'd love
to hear your stories. We'll take a break and be
right back here on the case. I appreciate it, all right,
welcome back. It's a Friday edition in studio of the

(16:04):
KSR pre show. Billy and the Dude is what people
are saying, we should change their name.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
Nobody said that, but you. I think a lot of
people have actually that. Nobody is saying. I like how
Billy is. No, Billy will not be if we if
we're not the pre show, Billy will not be featured
first in the naming. It's not gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
I mean it's alphabetical. I mean no, I'm not like, no,
not biased at all here. I'm just doing it in
the natural order of things. Billy and the Dude, Dude
and Billy really doesn't that.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Won't be that won't be the name of the show,
but you can continue to call it whatever you want.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Okay, Well I will Billy and the Dude here.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
Seven.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
How good was Brandon Garrison and Cash Daniel yesterday?

Speaker 3 (16:42):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (16:42):
I mean yeah, A lot of times interviews with athletes
and really current players can be tough.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
They don't have a lot of share.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
But I felt like we got some great stuff out
of both of those guys yesterday. And I believe Brandon
Garrison had more on his wrists than I have in
like three pay checks, shan And like, my guy was
I out yesterday when he came into the studio. Some chains,
he got some bracelets. I mean that nil money is
coming in.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
But ail drip that's what he had. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
I didn't get to see him because again I'm over
in Louisville. You guys are in Lexington. But yeah, he
was great. I thought he did a really good job. Also,
I thought Cash Daniel did a really good job coming
in at the end talking about his his days at
Kentucky playing football and also with EW coming up actually
tonight in Pikeville at the Appalajian Wireless Center. So get

(17:30):
out there. And check that out for those of you
in Pikeville and for those of you going to Hillbilly days.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Yeah, I can't wait to see how cash his wrestling
career develops. But some really powerful stuff from him.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Yesterday.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
He was getting ready to get into the story about
his you know, his I guess his medical records being
red flagged by the NFL and how that would prevent
him from.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
You know, achieving his dreams.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
And he's like, I was out there working a bird
and I almost got that bird. Yeah, And then I
got a phone call and it was like there was
the pat coming out of Cash there a little bit.
But he also talked about that trampoline floor Shannon and
I'll stop it, how to attack the mad I thought
that was interesting.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
You know, there are some techniques you guys use. So
you heard Cash talking about how much it hurts. You know.
Cash is a big dude, all right, He's not some
little scrunny guy like you. Yeah. And when Daniel talks
about it, when yeah, I said, yeah, tell Billy, because
Billy don't he won't believe me, So maybe you'll believe Cash.
So you don't believe me when I tell you that
falling on a wrestling Matt actually hurts. Do you believe

(18:31):
Cash Daniel when he says that, I do? Oh, you
believe Cash? Okay, I've got a lot of con Shannon's
lying when he says it. But and he.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
Was like, what, it's just wood underneath that, and.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
You can look it up. It's not like it's a secret.
I mean everything's out there on the internet. You can
look up how a wrestling ring is built. The frame,
No thanks, I'll just wait for Cash. The frame is
all steel. You got these long wooden planks that go
from one end to the other. That's basically the base
of the ring. And then you got I don't know,

(19:02):
just a little bit of patting that goes over top
of that, and then you put the canvas over it
and boom. That's it. That's that's what you're falling on.
It's no trampoline. There's no springs whatsoever in a wrestling ring.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Learning to take a bump so much so that Cash
is doing it at his house when he's slipping on rugs.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
You know, I'm sure there is an art too, you know.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Fake falling, Yeah, fake falling. You're insufferable. You He heard
him talking about having having to get into an ice
bath after every practice just becauses he's hurting so much.
And you know, did he have to do that when
he played football? Probably not?

Speaker 1 (19:36):
Oh come on, please, yeah he was come on a
linebacker in the sec he was he was going in
the ice.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Bath after practice. Probably not.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Me and Cash were yucking it up, talking about tearing microfibers.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
And eating protein to build them back up.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
You know it was it was just, you know, just
a normal common between boys and uh, you know, Cash
and I are going to hit the workout room too
early right after me and you.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Oh okay, yeah you need Yeah, you come work out
with me for then that'll get you ready for Cash.
Like my workouts are intense, I'd like Cash is on
another level. You're right, You're right, but yeah, I'm still
waiting for you having that invite again. You know, I
invite you to do all these things. I invite you
to come to my house parties. I invite you to
get into the wrestling ring. I invite you to come
work out with me. Yeah, and radio silence cricket.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
No, No, it's not radio silence. It's a little patience. Please,
I'm please, every party I'm coming to waiting years for
you to come hang out with I'll lift your five
pound dumbos with you.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
And the thing is, though, you know you'll you'll come
drink a dollar beer with me, but you won't come
work out or get in the wrestling ring. It's it's
strange how that works.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Unfortunately we're separated by eighty miles now, Shannon, it is unfortunate. Oh,
we bother, you know, we'd be boys hanging out all
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Speaker 1 (21:39):
I could put my mortgage on the Cats winning or losing,
but I can't bet on the NFL Draft here in Kentucky, Shannon,
Kentucky one of six states that does not allow you
to bet on the draft.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
I'm not sure. I don't know. You know, there's certain
states where you can do player props right, and others
that you can't. You know, I think Tennessee, like theirs,
is a little bit different. So like you do when
I'm traveling to Florida, I want to put in my bets.
There's certain things you can do in Kentucky that you
can't in Tennessee. It just depends on the law of
the state.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
Right, you guys couldn't bet in one of the states
you traveled to, right with Milwaukee.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Yeah, and then like you.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Know, you guys were passing state lines and Drew's putting
in bets on his DKNE Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
It's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Gamble responsibly and make sure you know the rules in
each state before you give out winners like I did
the other day. But you know what, just cross that
bridge and you can make a little money yourself. We'll
talk more about the dk horse app next week because
we're getting excited for the ponies that's coming up. Folks
A five nine two eight oh two two eight seven
give us a call. We'll take some phone calls, and
I've got an embarrassing story I'd like to share. I'm

(22:40):
sure Shannon will love that.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Oh yeah, can't wait for that. We'll be back.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
That's right, and we're that much closer to the weekend.
A Friday edition of the KSR pre show Billy and
the Dude two eight seven. We have some calls that
we'll take in this segment, but before we do, Shannon,
I will let you pick, would you like a sports
topic or would you like an embarrassing story?

Speaker 2 (23:06):
An embarrassing story? Why is that even a choice? I mean,
you know which one I'm going to pick. It is
Billy and the Dude here.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
So BILLI REI let me tell you about something that's
going on to currently planning a wedding right now, and
we are looking at a date in twenty twenty six,
so we have plenty of time, right so think in
August of twenty six, and we're going through the process
of hiring some people, some vendors, some photographers, and we

(23:32):
had a conference call with a videographer yesterday and we
go through the process and go through how much it's
going to be. You know, there's a couple of different options,
and so we get all the options in front of us, Shannon,
and I say, you know, I'm with the fiance, and
I say, you know what, We're going to take some
time to look at these prices. We're going to decide
and then we will get back to you in a

(23:53):
timely matter. You know, that's that's pretty fair, right sure,
and reasonable for the first conversation decision too. Well, after
I say that, the videographer pulled one of the savviest
sales tricks I've ever been a part of, Shannon, and
he said, well, I've got to tell you just this morning,
a bride called me and asked for your date, specifically

(24:18):
your date, and so you know, if you don't come
back with an answer soon, I am going to have
to move on to the next person. And as soon
as he said that, locked eyes with the fiance and
a sense of urgency was created. M h right, yeah,
And so now we start to have the conversation while
we're still on the phone about the prices to make

(24:39):
a decision instead of getting off the phone and ultimately
have waiting a couple days before making the final decision.
I felt like I was scammed a little bit, but
we ended up making the decision while we were still
on the phone, And then I had to ask did
he make that up to get me to book right
then and there? He told me that he did not. Shannon,

(25:02):
I don't know if I believe him.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
It's like a little poker match, you think in this
situation do you think I was lied to? I think
he may have. I'm not gonna say lied to. I
think maybe manipulated a little bit. You know, maybe there
may be maybe there is somebody out there that also
wants that date, but you know, obviously hasn't locked in
on it yet. So it doesn't mean that you wouldn't

(25:24):
get it if you waited a couple of days and
then came back to him. But I think that he
definitely did create that sense of urgency for you and I,
you know me, I'm calling your bluff. Oh yeah, go ahead,
I go ahead and go on. You're not going to
force me into making a decision right here, like I'm
gonna think about it. I told you I'm going to
get back to you in a timely manner. That's what's
going to happen. And if you're booked, well, guess what,

(25:45):
there are other videographers out there in the world that exist.
We'll find somebody else and look.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
And I thought that too, that that was my mindset
going in. But when he said that, Shannon, we kind
of didn't want.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Him to get away. Was he that good?

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Well, he was giving us a little bit of a
disc I think he was a KSR listener and he
wanted to do the wedding. So when he gave us
the prices, it was the first time we had seen them,
so I thought it was natural. I would take a
second to decide. But he said that, oh.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
He's a KASR so he's listening to us right now.
Call him a scam he might be. He might be listening.
You're going a bit and this is great, this is great.
So he might be listening. You're calling the guy a fraud, No,
but you said, or a scam artist. But you said
that he's listening to the show.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
I asked him and I said, did you make that
up to get me to commit right then and there?

Speaker 2 (26:29):
And he said, I promise you. I didn't.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
Okay, But I don't know if I believe him or not,
And so I don't. It's gonna bother me up until
the wedding and maybe years after. I don't know if
I'll ever know the truth if this guy just pulled
a sales tactic on me, or if he was telling
the truth.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Wait to call one of our listeners a scammer, scam artist.
I'm not killing leave GAMBI. I just don't know if
he's telling the truth. Yeah, he's telling the truth. Of
course he's telling the truth. He's a good loyal listener
of the KSR pre show. He's one percent telling the truth.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Because it worked. I mean it worked. It got me
hook and Sinker and me and the fiance. But I
may go to my grave still thinking about if he've
just pulled that on me.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
I've had to do that before, you know, with the band.
You know, really you got Oh another venue wants to
book us? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (27:12):
Two?

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Okay, let's start a bidding war. Who will start at
two thousand dollars? Who wants to go from there?

Speaker 1 (27:19):
See that's why I am like just scared to death
of buying a car on my own, because I feel like,
you go into buying a car, Shan, and you've it's
implied that you're going to have to negotiate them.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
I've had this conversation I feel like on the air
with you before. But you have to go in with
their mentality. All right, they're going to try to sell you.
You're only going to walk away if you feel good
about the deal. You don't let them manipulate you and
tell you, oh, yeah, you got to get it now.
I've told the story. I think before on the air.
I once sold back a car to the same place
that I bought it from five years before that for

(27:52):
the same price that I bought it for. Yeah, you
have told that story, and I said, you know what,
here's the deal, here's what I want. You don't like that,
I'm out, and it's It's amazing. There was something tied
to that front door in my hand, to that guy's
brain because the minute that I turned around started walking
and put my hand on that door, his brain goes,

(28:14):
wait a minute, I think I can work out a
deal for you.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
It's a thousand dollars. It's walking out the door, right.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Why so I sit there and talk to you for
forty five minutes and you couldn't figure out a deal.
But as soon as I walked it was about to
head out that door, magically, you you figured it out. See,
that's what you got to play their game, man, Hmmm,
you gotta play their game. You gotta be willing to
walk away. That's it now.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
I don't think the fine people at Don Franklin would
do those tactics like that. I'm sure they're upfront and
very personable about you know, the price being what they
have on the car. But there are instances where like
an added fee here or the Johnson ride there, and
eventually you're spending five thousand more dollars than you thought
you would. And I'm just, you know, just not the
best negotiator here, Shannon. And as you can tell by

(29:00):
booking my wedding, you.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Need to take an agent with you when you go
buy your car. It sounds like And.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
When he calls in to tell me that that was true,
I don't know if I'll ever believe him, but you
know what, can't wait to see him when the day
big day actually does happen. Let's take a call eight
five nine two two two eight seven. I believe Chad
is on the line. Good morning, Chad, what's up?

Speaker 5 (29:21):
Good morning fellas. I have to take up for Shannon
real fast. Shannon got screwed on the most approachable discussion
the other day on the main show, and I'm here
to make it right. I run into Shannon multiple LOUDERI
than life. I've seen him at random concerts, not even
looking to talk to him, but when he walks by,
just say hey, Shannon, give him a fifth bump. Shannon

(29:43):
stops every time, not only does Shannon stop. He's been
with Sarah, he's been with groups of people. He'll have
the whole group stop and he'll have a conversation. He's like, hey, man,
how's your night going. What are you up to? You know,
calling the show Sometimes, my man, Shannon got screwed on
that list. Shannon' should have been number one overall. No discussion,

(30:03):
my man, Channon. We're brothers in Scott wild st. Yeah,
I'm just telling you you got screwed, buddy.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
That's all right, that's okay. You know, Matt doesn't see
me in the world of Louder than Life and all
these other places that I go to. He just sees
me in the world of ks R.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
I think we were both screwed, Chad. I mean I
was the bottom of the list as well.

Speaker 5 (30:20):
But yeah, I do. I like Billy, but but Shannon's
my dude. I ride for Sannon.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
That's right, that's right. You like Billy, but you like
me more. I understand. That's that's way most people are.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
Chad.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
That's call the day. I'm gonna go ahead, make you
the call day for Chad. We could have a much
better point on the next caller. But much love all right, man,
thanks for listening to the show. See there you go. Wow,
you got a super fan that. But I'm not one
of these people that lingers like my man Jean Mitchell.
If you say how to me, I will stop. I
will take the time to say a few words to you.

(30:52):
But I'm not gonna hang out with you for fifteen minutes,
you know, unless you know, unless you want me to.
I'm not just gonna hang around. I usually say my
helloes and move.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
So would Gene Mitchell be on the bottom of your
most approachable list just because he's a lingerer and he
may extend the he's too approachable.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
He's very approachable, Like he's talking a guy that you know,
he's I don't know, maybe he's lonely. He wants to
have a conversation with It's fine. You know, he's hanging
out there at the beach playing his beat songs and
you come up to him and then he won't go away.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
Yeah, I'm sure the guy singing Jimmy Buffett at a
PCB bar is probably a little lonely and wants to
talk to some people.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
Jimmy Buffa used to sing Gene mitchell songs. Just wow.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Shannon The NFL Draft was last night and continues tonight.
But the NBA Draft is a little over two months away,
and I want to ask you, who do you think
on the Kentucky men's basketball roster this past year is
the highest rated prospect when it comes to ESPN's Top
one hundred NBA Draft part I haven't looked.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
At this, not looked. I'm going to just guess Kobe
Brea Kobe Bryant number one. Answer.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
He is the fifty sixth ranked prospect on ESPN's Big Board.
You want to keep guessing at all because there are
multiple names on this list. Was otega Oway even on there?
Otega Ohway number three? When it comes to Kentucky players,
he is seventy seventh. So if you're looking at will
he return to Kentucky after testing the draft waters we're

(32:18):
waiting for that May twenty eighth deadline. But if you
were the seventy seventh ranked prosect, that's probably ends you're
not going to get drafted in the first two.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
Probably not. Yeah, But I'll give you the list if
you want me to.

Speaker 5 (32:27):
Right here.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
Amari sixty three, Jackson Robinson eighty one, and Andrew Carr
ninety seven, you're surprised at all that Otega is seventy
seventh and Kobe Brea up at fifty.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
Six A little bit.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
I mean, I don't feel like there's you know, I
would very different players, right, yeah, I mean yeah, And
maybe the NBA is more suited for Kobe.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
It always three, I always got it. Yeah, I always
got to develop a better shot. Yeah, you know, he's
a guy that can get you a basket, you know,
driving to the driving, driving into the lane. But you
know he's he's not a guy that's consistently gonna knock
down three point shots for you. So I feel like
if he can develop a shot, he can he can
really move up the ranks in the maybe next year's draft.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
And Jackson Robinson, who was really the guy that was
testing the NBA draft waters last year, maybe looked at
as the most NBA ready player on the team before
the season started at eighty one. That injury really did
not help his prospects, But maybe he'll be able to
carve out a role as we wait and see what
the NBA draft. One guy that is not going to
be getting drafted any time soon is Travis Perry, and

(33:32):
Travis Perry is in the transfer portal. He has gotten
a lot of interest since joining the transfer portal.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Have you seen all those goals? I have?

Speaker 1 (33:39):
I read some of these off I've seen this, okay,
but go ahead and read them all right. Let me
pull it up here, Ole miss Arkansas, marylandsas Vanderbilt, Louisville, Iowa, Georgia, Tennessee, Missouri, LSU,
Western Kentucky in South Carolina. This from Joe Tipton of
On three Sports. Do you still cheer for Travis Perry

(33:59):
if he were to go to Arkansas or Louisville?

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Mmm, that would be so tough man if he went.
He can't go to Arkansas, right, cal didn't even want
him at Kentucky.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
Right.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
It was almost like he had to take They can't
only want him to put him on the bench just
to get a little fuck jab at Kentucky. But I
think he would do really good at two of those
schools that you mentioned, one to be in your Western
Kentucky Hilltoppers, damn right, and the other one being the
Vanderbilt Commodoors. Because Bandy likes to shoot a lot of threes.
I could see Travis Perry being a guy that could
get a lot of minutes for Vandy.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
But like, let's say he goes to Ole Miss and
like drops twelve or fifteen points on the Cats.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
That's gonna be tough. Yep, it is, But I mean
Swallot's life in the transfer port is that's the life
of college sports. Yep.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
You know, I will defend Cal to a degree because
I think it's tough to recruit Kentucky players when you're
at Kentucky if they're not gonna start right away right
because you get the Richie syndrome. Is Richie gonna play?

Speaker 3 (34:55):
You know?

Speaker 2 (34:56):
When? Is Travis gonna get in the game? Cal?

Speaker 1 (34:58):
And I even think Joe b had this mantra that
he wasn't going to recruit Kentucky guys unless they were
going to be starters because of the pressure from the
fan base. For them to play more is just a
lot and so it does the disservice to the kid
at times. But I'm excited for a guy like Trent
Noah and Malachim Moreno to continue that Kentucky tradition. Those
guys I think are good enough for some playing time.

(35:19):
But that's the philosophy. Cal had just bizarre. If he
would go to Arkansas.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Yeah, yeah, the Travis Perry again, I think, you know,
Western Kentucky. I think he could you know, be a
starter there, you know, get a lot of minutes, a
lot of playing time, stay in Kentucky. Look at Vanderbilt,
who has a history of just getting all the players
from Kentucky that don't play at Kentucky. You know, Dan Leggy,
Scott Hunley, Rick Jones, I think Dan Hall. If you
go even further back into the nineties, Chris Lost, and

(35:45):
the list goes on and on and on. There's a
bunch of guys that were from Kentucky that didn't go
to UK ended up down in Nashville, so it's still
close to home. I could still I could see that
working for Travis Perry.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Not a former Kentucky player. But wasn't Riley the Chance
of Andy Guard with a mustache? He was maybe similar
to Lake Travis Perry. So maybe a little Riley the
Chance reincardated. But best of luck to Travis Perry. Maybe Kentucky,
a return to Kentucky is in the cards. Maybe he's
looking for playing time. I wish him nothing but the best.

(36:17):
But if he goes to Louisvillite, I you know, I
don't think we can root for him. Then at that point,
come on down to Western Kentucky, Travis Perry. The Price
is right. We got a little n I al money
for you, Travis. Come on down. Sec is a little
tough a five nine two two eight seven. We need
to take a break here, shann or we need to
take Okay, all right, we'll take a break and wrapping
things up here on a Friday here on the case.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
Our pre show, welcome back.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Okay, So our pre show Billy and the Dude. Our
new logo up on Twitter at Tilly our sports Corey Price.
Just put it up, Corey.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
I'll make attributed to Billy's ego.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Come on, man, what do you Dory? Big part of
the show, Big, thank you, Corey. Kind of a wacky
show today. One person on the text line says, we
sound a lot little bit like David.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Cam this morning.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
David Cam who from the official UK pregame show.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Ohay Baker, Oh day, Okay Dave Baker and Camera Mills. Okay,
can just say David Cam. They don't have that kind
of star power. You can just say, David Cam, you
gotta give me like some buzz Baker and camera Mills. Okay,
now I know you're Dave Baker.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
I mean that's that's a one name person.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Well, if we ever asked Dave how he got the
name buzz.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
I don't know that story. He'll tell us, though, Yeah,
we got fifty minute monologue, isn't sure? Two two eight
seven Channon tell us about a book that you.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
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(38:01):
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(38:22):
Check that out on Apple and on Amazon. We're gonna
take one more call.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
But on the text line, one person says, all of
this talk Shannon did about not being manipulated by a
car salesman, and then he lets a caller manipulate him
into giving him call of the day.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Well, he was the only call, so he didn't really
manipulate me into anything. That was the only call that
we had today. He's one of one. Yeah, I mean
in the mail for Chad. Now, I mean we got
shot up next too. I guess could technically have a
better call than the first caller, but until then I'm
giving the Call of the day.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
Well, then you've set up Sean perfectly.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
Here. Good morning, Sean. How are you?

Speaker 1 (39:00):
I'm good, guys, how are you all doing?

Speaker 2 (39:02):
Great?

Speaker 5 (39:02):
Man, got a little Travis Perry scoop. He was he
was spotted in Bowling Green yesterday and his girlfriend goes
to Western Kentucky. So I think the Hilltoppers is going
to be his destination.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
Stop. You know you've heard Ryan Lemons at the time.
It's all about the girlfriend. Girlfriends are undefeated.

Speaker 5 (39:21):
That's right, undefeated. Thank you guy.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
All right, that's great, Scoop. I think I'm gonna make
that the whiskey thief collinidation and he really gave us
more on the shell than Chad ever did.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
He said it right, Moron, you said it right there.
It came right out of your mouth.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
Moron.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Okay, do you really think that, uh, there's anything to that.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
Sod Travis going to the hill. Yeah, absolutely think anybody's
transfers to the Kentucky should look at Western. Come on now,
we'll take.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
All of them. All right, we'll see what I know.
Shame well, that is TP with the girlfriend being there.
If that's true, then yeah, I would say Western Kentucky
is a heavy favorite. Now for Travis Parry.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
A five nine two eight to zero two two eight seven. Okay,
here it is Kentucky baseball tonight, Shannon. They will take
on South Carolina. They're twenty three and fifteen on the year.
Six thirty pm. First pitch at Kentucky Proud Park. So
that means at six fifteen we will start our pregame
with Darren Hedrick on news radio six thirty WLAP. Did
you know that that Kentucky's strength of schedule is number

(40:22):
five in the country.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Yeah, yeah, tough.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
Slooding in the SEC. Think Cats are now twenty fifth
in the RPI. When it comes to baseball, they're slotted
to be a two seed in the NCAA tournament. So
this would go a long way of continuing their quest
for a third straight NCAA tournament.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
Yeah, they're hot right now. You know, you take two
out of three from Tennessee, the number two team in
the country, then you knock off Losville. Now you've got
South Carolina coming up, so you know you win this series. Here,
all of a sudden, you're talking about a team that's
what knocking on the door for the top twenty five.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
Sure, yeah, absolutely, I think they're right there. A team
that is in the top twenty five is Western Kentucky,
and I think Kentucky plays at Western next Tuesday Day
or Wednesday, So that should be a good in state
matchup between Western and Kentucky.

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Speaker 1 (41:34):
Slash audio Shanna, mute your mic on teams. I have
a clip I want to play here as we end
the show. It's Friday. We've had a fun show. It's
Dave and Cam here on Billy and the Dude today,
and we might as well just play Bridget and Paul
on our way out here.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
And he went up there and he was coming back
down down the waters and he goes run, he's got
a gun, and and oh, our heart started to pay
on and I ship on my with's mom and Paul
mam was stuck up there. But apparently our brave mom,
she goes, are you all right?

Speaker 2 (42:08):
Because he had all so strange, so fascinating.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
Everybody, have a good weekend for Shannon and billy ks
oars next