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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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betta stop kicking. I'll break something in.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
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Speaker 1 (00:20):
About halfway through, we're going right to ten, jumping in
he righty already ting in ten. Ten stories from the
weekend all food ball Bobby Bouche. About halfway through the
Eagles Jags game. The Jags remember they actually aren't a
terrible team, started playing some football, but it was a
little too little too late. It's Philly won this game
twenty eight to twenty three.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
The best highlight of the season.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
So far at Saquon bark that gets the ball out
on the flat spin move and then reverse hurdle jumps
up backwards a butt first over a dude, just to
prove he's still that freak we remember from Penn State,
not the guy who got.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Freaked when he was with the Giants. Saquon with the highlight,
Eagles get it done. Dare I say win.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Because of Saquon and in spite of Nick sirianni.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Uh you had the Siriatti take before me. Sirianni was
trending after going six and two. I love the saquad hurdle,
a highlight of the season, but so far, what happened
with Siriani because he's like acting like he's gonna go
for two, but then doesn't, and then doesn't understand the
rules and then almost blows the game because of it.
He just does he like Philly Sports Talk radio, is
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he just giving them content? They're six and two and
I've never seen a guy hated more than Siriatta and
that what he did to himself.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
It was kind of nice to see the jag show
up for a couple minutes, though, So, I mean, we
got that going for us, you know, which is nice.
Moving out to number nine, the Patriots lose in overtime
to the Titans twenty to seventeen, and by the way,
Titans now the first team all season to win the
week after you play the Lions. However, that ain't the story.
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The story's Drake May. Drake May is special, Drake May
is real. Drake May. In that touchdown at the end
of the of the regulation, he keeps the play alive,
not you know, a Lah Jayden Daniels and then knowing
the number one thing you can't get tackled with that ball.
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Make a throw, makes the throw, hets the touchdown, pushes
the game. He has a throw an interception in overtime
to lose it. But Drake may is special and he
is only you get better. Imagine if he had an
offensive line.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
That offensive line is horrendous. He had some flashes of
why people got so excited about him during the season.
Patriot fan is so conflicted because they see small moments
of can he be good? Can he be the future
that you know they're gonna have a high pick coming up.
They are just not east to this losing. They went
a long time with the Patriot dynasty, and before that
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they went a long time of lucy. This is a
generational thing, right, Like, if you're an older Patriot fan,
you're like, oh, no, I lived this life. If you're
a new Patriot fan, You're like, I've never lived this life.
May Scottamen knots. But they had they had, would you
have gone for two?
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I think I would have too.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yeah, especially with how bad all the teams are, you know,
come on, might as well go for the two and
you know, getting three and a half points. I was
fine with it. It'd been okay with me. Number eight.
The Raiders lost forty one to twenty four to the Bengals.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Joe Burrow goes off.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Giseki has the best day for a tight end this year,
first tight end this season to have one hundred receiving
yards and two touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
So the Raiders cleanhouse.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
They fired Luke GUESSI fired Albens a long coach, fire
quarterback coach fired. I don't know who's running the Raiders
offense next week.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
But we might be bat off.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
How do you have a dude like Luke getsy, get
just trashed and run out of town in Chicago, and
then you go.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
You know what, that might be the right guy to
run our offense. Let's bring him in.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I never I didn't like this move from day one.
I kept my mouth shut. I tried to keep a
positive like just spin on it. Man, oh man, good, good,
good riddings. My friend, go run an offense and like,
I don't know soccer, because you ain't run a good
one in football.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Sometimes I wonder what goes into these conversations for teams
and organizations of Hey, a lot of people are not
confident this guy running our offense as a coach. No, no, no,
we got this, Like I really want to know the pitches.
I want to know at the start of this getsy's
the guy, and here's what is he just in the building?
Did he sell himself well enough? Because you mentioned it,
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you weren't super critical of it, but I know you
and I at least off here, you're like, this isn't
make This isn't adding to what I.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Wasn't publicly critical about it.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
But remember it was it was, Hey, we're gonna get
close Kingsbury and then it was like, oh, Jane Damis
is going to Washington, so Smiff King's.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
But like, how do you go from Cliff Kingsbury.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Who you know, not always super successful but flashy passing
offense fun to Luke Gatsey.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
We should run the ball? Okay? Cool?
Speaker 1 (05:13):
We should also run the ball all right? Cool, but
we're not running the ball very well. Yeah, well I
got Gardner minshew, we'll throw it all over the field.
Now wait what weirdo? Good reddings, my friend, I mean,
good luck whatever you do next. This is not with
my team. Falcons beat the Cowboys at number seven, twenty
seven to twenty one. The only thing more banged up
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than Dak Prescott's hamstring is Mike McCarthy's tablet. Do you
see McCarthy throw a temper tantrum destroy his tablet on
the sideline? Do you think the tablet had a message
directly from Jerry Jones saying, hey, I'm all fire you soon.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Falcon fan get excited about that. But that moment you're
talking about is one of four I'll go with four
non football moments that have had more track than the
actual game itself. That Steven A. Smith on Twitter, Yeah,
it is kind of fun watching and do the cowboy thing.
Sorry cowboy fans, It's pretty funny that. Then the Dak
Prescott zoomed in mouth of let's say we blanking suck Yeah,
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which went viral. And then the last one, Dana Rolofski,
former NFL quarterback, pointing this out the d second second
down of the game. Did you see this? V Jon
Robinson has a big catch out of the backfield, and
Orlofsky's watching and he goes on social media says, I
keep trying to figure out why someone wasn't on Robinson
during this play, and then I realized the Cowboys had
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ten players.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
On the field.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Yeah, how do you go seven plays into the game
and you don't know who's on the field. A complete
mess by Dallas And that sums it up with all
of those things going viral today.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yeah, just I mean it's time to clean house there too.
I mean you start was every year he gets seven
to eight, maybe nine NFL head coaches fired.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
We're already opted to.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
One of those is on the way, by the way,
and I think Mike McCarthy and maybe Antonio Pierce both
both little that you can help.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Get that number up.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
We might have a big number of fire coaches this season,
moving on to number six.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
So is Sam Donald a legit QB one?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Like the Minnesota Vikings top the Colts twenty one to thirteen.
Maybe the only thing that would put me to sleep
fast of this game would be a sleeping pill or
head trauma. However, I stayed away as long as Sam
Donald makes throws that dudes don't make like he.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
You know, you go back to what we thought he.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Was coming out of USC and I'm seeing flashes of
it now. Finally, is he like is he QB one?
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Yes? Maybe not for Minnesota, but going forward Minnesota only
because they had Jji McCarthy have a big issue to
make later on about what they're going to make their
decision for that. But watching Sam Donald at times, it
feels like a different person of what we saw early
in his career. And there's so many different ways we
go with the Sam Donald thing. Was he actually too
young when he took go over for the Jets being
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twenty years old? Was he too hyped out of USC?
Because remember he was not supposed to be the USC
starter was a guy named Max Brown who's a five
star and I know that because he's on the CW
broadcast all the time.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
He actually does a nice job.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
So there's a lot of things. Then he had to
start broadcaster, Then he had the Jets in the Panthers
bad at organizations that and the Niners, Like maybe he
always would have been good if he wasn't on a
bad organization. Some of those throws are indefensible, not in
the sense they're really bad. We can't defend it. There's
nothing to defense it back and do because.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
They're so perfect.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
And that's about the fifth time I've said that this
season about the Crows. Donald's made how about this real quick?
Speaker 2 (08:36):
As a little step off the kickstart.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Michael Pennick Junior is not going to play for a
while because Kirk Couzins got it working. Jaj mccrothy not
can play between the injury and the way Sam Donald's playing.
Would it be crazy for either one of them to
trade their first round quarterback draft?
Speaker 3 (08:54):
I would say yes, just because of finances, because not
knowing the cap situation for the Vikings and Falcons off
the top of my head, I would always lean towards
you have decisions to make with the salary cap because
how much money. But this goes to a classic Levakan
Goss conversation. It's not your money. Guys, don't worry about it,
and if they want to pay you, they'll find the money.
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Two classic lines of X told me for years on
this show. I beat you too, before you could say.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Here's another one for you, here's a classic line coming
in at number five. NFC West is just like we
drew it up. Cardinals and the Rams are damn near unbeatable.
Whoever thought the Seahawks and the forty nine ers would
be the world beaters, Well they're not. It's it's the Rams,
It's the Cardinals, Seahawks lose to the Rams twenty six
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to twenty and the Cards embarrassed the.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Bears twenty nine to nine. Forty nine ers were on
a bye week.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
However, right now, at this stage, the NFC West is
the Cardinals, the Rams, the Seahawks, then the Niners.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
The Arizona Cardinals dominate that game from the start with
backup running backs, even though Connor was out there with
Kyler Murray looking good and you listening right now, I'm
not gonna judge you. Do you know the name of
the Arizona Cardinal head coach. You think about that for
a while, and then when you think you got it,
you let us.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Start like a swear word in German, doesn't it?
Speaker 3 (10:16):
No, No, that's the Colts, Jonathan Gannon, I believe it's
still the Cardinals head coach.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Swear at my house.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
You were thinking of a Stane Stuke. I believe they
were together with the Eagles as well.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
So uh.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
And then the Rams Seahawk game. I love summing up
that game like this. If you have young toddlers like
I do, and you're a young father, that's the tub
time game where like maybe they're going up at like seven,
seven thirty. I couldn't tell you how many texts I
got for people who said, wait a second, how'd the
Rams get the ball back? Wait a second?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Whatever?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Of Seattle? What's going on in the Jackson and Smith
and Jigma was on my bench in Fantasy WHI that
was chaos for the last twenty minutes. Red Zone kicked
it off the air. Chaotic finished to that one, but
the Rams continue to roll on.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Matthew Stafford, I don't know if it's the fact a
youth stem cells what it is, tiam Pepper and water.
Matthew Stafford's playing like a kid again. He's having fun
out there, but it's good.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
It's fun to watch Pooka the cool only like played
a little bit, you know, very weird.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
I think you got thrown out of that game.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
He I know he threw a punch. Yeah, he get
thrown out.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
I believe he got thrown out unless somebody had it wrong.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
I believe it. I know he's also still backed up.
So all right.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Number four in the CDTA Kickstarter. Here's something I didn't
think I was gonna say.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Today.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
The Panthers win. The Panthers win, The Panthers win the game.
Twenty three, twenty two over the Saints. This game is
so bad they played. The Saints fired head coach Dennis
Allen and Mike Thomas, former wide receiver for the team,
went to x saying that Derek Carr should get his
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ass beat for throwing the ball that got a lave hurt.
That's right, former player, former star saying the I want
to actually get beat up in the streets.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
And you buy your head.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Coach because you lost twenty three twenty two to the Panthers.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Did you ever have that kid in your class that
the teacher said, and this is why we can't have
nice things.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
That was me.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
That's the Saints and the Panthers, both of them, because
even when the Panthers win, there's Panther fans that are like,
how can we finally do this and maybe cost ourselves
a high trafficcause the Panthers are that bad. Even though
Bryce Young maybe the correack for the future. Maybe not
Xavier leg Itt. Some young contributors, by the way, call
that touchdown he did. I told a couple of them.
Actually that was early. That was like before two o'clock.
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I think he got in two. Yeah, that was an
early cash on that. As for the Saints. You talked
about the car situation. I almost felt bad for him
in that press conference and they asked him about the
quote and the faces he was making. That's one of
those you should watch with the sound on and then
with the sound off, because it feels like two different
things are going on there with Car. What he does
want to say and doesn't To add to the Lave thing,
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Chris Alave. If his name was Tua, everyone say he
should retire. That's Chris Alave's sixth concussion. Oh, in the
last four years. Six concussions in four years now, Chris
Alave's brother w I'm.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Sorry, it's an insensive joke. I didn't remember that, and
neither did he.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Michael Thomas is a fool for Twitter, But I feel
like Chris Alave's brother was even more insane because someone
randomly on Twitter said about Chris Alava. Hey, somebody needs
to have to sit down conversation with Lave and say
it's over. And his brother replied to the tweet and said, yeah,
it's over. Forman in New Orleans, lol, saying like it's
not gonna work here. I gotta get out ugly across
the board. This is why you can't have nice things.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Moving on a number three of the CDTA Kickstarter, the
Lions made their argument that they are the best even
the NFL, with a twenty four to fourteen win at
Lambeau over the Packers in the rain. And by the way,
this game was not twenty four to fourteen close. The
Lions controlled this game from the whistle to the whistle.
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I was wrong about this one, I will admit it.
Gob You know they they put him in a position
to win this game, and he did just that. Mon Ross,
Daint Brown jumping on that that that celebration craze of
just standing on your head in the end zone. I
think incarnate word started, which is where cam Ward came from.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
You brought him you, you brought him up a couple
of times. So the Lions, they are that damn good.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Every coach at every level any sport really will say
one to three players can decide a game. One to
three possessions can design a game. You hear that over
and over and over. You're like, all right, coach, we
get it. If Jordan Love doesn't throw that pick six
with less than a minute ago in the first half
and the Lions get up ten, if green Bay runs
the clock out. If green Bay gets points on the board,
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how different out of a game is it? Maybe they cover,
maybe by cash, maybe I cash a ticket. But Detroit's
better than green Bay. Even if Jordan loves healthy, that
rosters better top the bottom, the lines are better. Could
have been a completely different game if that's not a
pick six before halftime.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Gosh, the other guy we talked about, Darnold, he was
with the Rams. They were a super Bowl team while
he was there, but they weren't good enough to win it.
He gets to Detroit, Ben Johnson figures him out and
knows how to make him a winner. Listen, I'm just saying,
if Antonio Pierce has gotta go Ben Johnson and silver
and block would look okay with me.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Uh moved out of number two.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
I said that the Lions made their case of the
best team in the NFL, which would normally put them
ahead of this team.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
But it's a New York Tams. What do you want
me to do?
Speaker 1 (15:38):
The Buffalo Bills are that dang good? The Dolphins did
not play like a two and six team yesterday. The
Bills still did what they needed to win this thing.
Thirty to twenty seven, even without Amari Cooper or like,
it really felt like no real offense. And I think
it was a one hundred and fifteen yardfield goal at
the end is what it looked like.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
The camera angle.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
I don't know if I'd like kind of becoming a
member of Bill's Mafia, but I had that like tunnel
vision effect, and when they lined up for it where
it looked like it was way farther away and it
was still at sixty one.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
I'm a little jealous of the Bills fans or people
who were there for that game watching the game winning
field goal. The drama back and forth atmosphere looked awesomart.
Guy Junior from Wgyer Guy Zach was there. He was
enjoying it. Shout out to him.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
I don't think he's talking to me after Halloween.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
So oh gosh, uh, you know what, Bill's Mafia. I
got a lot to say about that back. I think
I want to do that in the third hour.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
All right, listen, your name's on the show. Did you want?
All right? Moving on to number one.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
With a twenty seven twenty two loss to the Commanders,
the New York Football Giants are technically the worst team
in the NFL per ESPN League standings. So a little
good news bad news for you guys. All right, you stink,
it's bad news. The good news is you might stink
bad enough to get a quarterback. How's that for you?
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Come on, now, there you go, all Ryan could go?
Who you want Giants fan? Well, little Schador Sanders in
your life. You can't have cam Warden, he's going to
the Raiders. But whatever you want.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Just like the Bills, I need a little bit more
on the Giants, Baby will talk about them coming up
here next, because Giant fan, it probably was actually worse
than you heard it on Picks one oh six and
worse than what you saw. It was about as ugly
as it gets for the Giants this past weekend.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
It was not pretty, I can tell you that. But
you know what we've been talking.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
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and our friends at the MVP arena. What if I
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Speaker 2 (17:49):
Was that November fourteenth?
Speaker 3 (17:50):
November fourteenth, that's coming up for collision.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Four pack of tickets? I got them.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Let's do caller, you know what, Let's do the first
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right now steps you can five six nine Oho nine
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Speaker 1 (19:18):
The Giants were moving the ball very well, like like
this is what like when you just go out and
you stink. I'm like, okay, you know what I mean,
Like you just stink, you stink. It is what it is.
But the Giants were moving the ball. Jones fumbles. What
was the stat line at one point.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Oh oh for four with no excuse me, h man,
straight up. I think it was four oh for four
with zero yards and one touchdown something like that. I mean,
I'll find it, darn it. I love that stat too.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Yeah it was. It was a weird. I know, I
know that.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
The The one out there is that the Chiefs won
two Super Bowls between Daniel Jones at home touchdown path.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Four for six was the stat line at one point
in the game. Four for six for zero passing yards
in one touchdown, So.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
He completed four of six passes. He had no yards
and you had a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Five rushes for fifty yards.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
I mean, and and Tracy the running back is fun.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Man, that dude's a basher, Like he's just he goes out,
he's looking for contact and that's fun to see. But again,
like they were moving the ball. Everything looked good, and
they kept it. They kept it relatively close they did
I can I feel like I can see what Brian
David's trying to do, but it's like he just doesn't
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have what he needs to do it.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
And that's why I'm like really.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Upset that I could see a scenario where he's not
getting a chance to do it, because can you imagine
if it's it's basically like who's trying to think like
a NASCAR driver that like the Kyle Busch and you go, okay,
go win this on three tires, Like that's what it
feels like because he doesn't have his quarterback, Daniel Jones.
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I like Daniel Jones. I feel bad for the guy,
but I don't feel bad enough to keep losing. Like
and meanwhile, Sakwan's jumping backwards over people overgrown men, not
that he would have helped you win, but at the
same time, like you can see it like Dable's plan works.
He's getting the most out of what he has. The
deep Bense is frustrated that they caught Dexter Lawrence and
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Brian Burns talking to each other and they tried to
get them to say what they were saying. They're like, no,
it's none of your damn business. Like I like a
lot of what I see with the Giants, except for Sundays.
I don't like what happens on Sundays.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
There are times during the game and I thought about
this because when the Giants were slowly watching that game
slip away. I don't know if I had the PS
five on my mind or just a video game thread
came in my head of You and I are both gamers.
We've both played before. We know how to play, whether
it's first player shooter games or sports games. But you
may have played against somebody in the past and all
of a sudden, they hit one button and you're playing
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Mario Kart and they like zoom ahead. WHOA, I don't
know Square could do that. WHOA, Hey, you didn't tell
me all the control I didn't know you could have
that type of an advantage when you're competing agains somebody
because they didn't tell you could. At times, I watched
the Giants and I'm like, that's how the fans must feel. Hey,
you didn't tell me you could have an accurate quarterback
who could also run. How come the Washington has that? Hey, hey,
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Philly has Saquon Barkley jumping backwards over guys and a
mobile quarterback and a big wide receiver. How come we
can't have one of those. Well, you're just looking across
your division. You're like, how is it? This feels like
a different sport on offense. Sometimes in coet Paris, in
the teams they've played.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Well, if you didn't have Tommy Cutletz, you'd have it
cause you have drink May.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
You know, let's talk about Tommy cutlets for a second. Yes,
that's Tommy Cutlet's. Tommy DeVito won games for the Giants
last season, which no one expected them to do, and
they would have had Drake May. And I know last
week you asked me about Tommy DeVito and you asked
me if he was the future of the Giants.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
That said absolutely not right, but had to make a point.
Please don't think I thought that it was.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Yeah, it wasn't that slow week. Last week we were
back the boy. That's exactly right, That's what the point was.
But I thought about Davito driving to work today and
I thought, what in the world happened that in those
games in late in twenty twenty three, in late November
early December, that Tommy Davito, is the quarterback of the Giants,
was winning football games and Daniel Jones can't. At some point,
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I'm not saying to Vito's better than Jones, but at
some point someone has to study that tape and be like,
what the hell happened where the third stringer helped us
win games around this time last year and the guy
who he thinks the franchise quarterback can't. Something happened. Whether
it's yeah, thought nothing thought, but yes, because like Davino
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at least one games for the Giants, you would have thought, Hey,
if the third stringer in late and twenty twenty three
can win games, Daniel Jones will find a way to
do it.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Never happened.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Is that something where you dumb it down, you take
a lot of it out of it. But he made
throws too. He did make throws like as much as
he's not like Tommy de Beato could probably like destroy
the CFL, you know, bring them down to a F one.
He'd looked great, he made he made some throws, he
looked he looked the part at times, but not all
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the time.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
So he use it.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Do you you dumb it down where you're winning in
spite of your QB to do that? And if you you,
if you can do that, why not do that with
Daniel Jones.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
He's not the guy. It doesn't matter for me. It
doesn't matter if you've dumb it down for Daniel Jones,
if you make it as perfect you want for Daniel Jones.
This goes back to everything that's been talked about for
the Giants. This is about a decade now for the
Giants Giant fans. It's two playoff appearances the last ten years.
You've got the one where you beat Minnesota and then
you have the I don't want to call it the
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party boat, but it is like the party boat team.
You've had those two playoff appearances, both very different. But
over the course of the last decade, you've seen a
Giant fan. You had Eli, you had Daniel Jones. I
believe there's one other quarterback. Samich didn't between there somewhere.
We've had flashes of Gino Smith and Davis Webb and
Tommy Cutlets and everything else. But the Giant organization has
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waited too long now multiple occasions where they should have
found a quarterback sooner, and it costs the team wins,
and it cost the team the franchise and movement for
the salary cap and everything else because teams are lapping them.
Here's a great example of this. Okay, the Giants were
a playoff team two seasons ago and they played against
the Minnesota Vikings. The Minnesota Vikings were one of the
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best regular season teams in twenty twenty two. New York
went out and beat Minnesota. But think about what that
Minnesota Viking team was in twenty twenty two and what
they are in twenty twenty four. They've got a new quarterback,
a new running back. I believe that was the final
game for Mike Zimmer. You could check me on that.
I think Kevin O'Connell took over for the twenty twenty
three season. So the Vikings were a great regular season team,
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but they blew out the head coach, blew out the quarterback,
blew out the running back, and now look where they are.
The Giants who won the game, same quarterback, same head coach.
They blew out the running back that didn't work out
as well. But look how much different those two franchises are.
Because one said we're gonna make changes, the other one
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said we're gonna be good for the future. Same franchises
in less than two years.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Maybe a total troll move. It wouldn't be great.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Like ending with a top five pick and they grab
Jaunty the running back out of Boise State.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Don't do that. Don't to poor gip fan.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
No, all right, Oh, signed Sam Darnold and we're gonna
bring in Jaunty.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
There you go, all good? Right, come on now.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
He's affordable somewhere somewhere. Dave Getteman is like, I knew
this would work.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
The Mollies do this, I'd be fine.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
I mean it is. It is depressing the way the
way they're and again they're it's they're in a weird spot.
Like right now.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
O'conne was the coach in that game, by the way,
Oh he was, but he's still he was going. We
get we get the point I'm trying to make. Though
franchise have went in different directions, who were you?
Speaker 2 (27:05):
When did you get here?
Speaker 1 (27:08):
But no, The simple fact of the matter is you're
bad enough right now to draft your next quarterback. But
if you happen to get a little winning streak going,
you're gonna be in trouble. And you got You got
the Panthers in London a bye week, Buccaneers who are
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like an injury away for not being able to field
the team. You're at the Cowboys. Dak may not be
back by them with his hamstring issue. Saints are trash,
Ravens play down at the level of competition. Yeah, the
Falcons are very good. You're at the Falcons. Colt's offense
is crazy and the Eagles are a weird team. You
might be able to squeak four wins out of that
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and ruin your draft.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Think about it, how do you rationalize that after that
of Hey, we've got the seventh pick, can't get a quarterback?
Joe Shane goes back to the Maras office like, hey,
I know we did that whole hard knocks thing where
he didn't have enough capital to move up again. But
a boss, we're in the same spot again.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
The fact that Pennix and McCarthy aren't even playing. That
makes it okay, right that you didn't draft them because
they they were both available when you draft them.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Bleak neighbors, that's a little tough. McCarthy's hurt, so that, yeah,
that one's a little easier.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
But McCarthy also is he's he was so green, like,
he didn't he didn't run the kind of offense that
they're gonna need him to run like Dabel would have
had to. Like.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Really, the fact they didn't take him told me. Dabel
looked at him and went, there's just too.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Much work.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
The non flaming guys. I always would lean towards yes
over no, because I'm watching a quarterback struggle in Daniel Jones,
I'm watching him thirty thrownd of his career. The unknown
at least tempts me enough to think that they could
be better. I think one of the more recent, really
good examples of this, boy, would you.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Rather had either one of those guys over the.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
League neighbors over the league neighbors?
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Yep, that's a showsure to make. I think I would.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
I think I would for this reason because if you're
gonna give Penix the opportunity to be the quarterback, and
you think it can make plays. You're gonna save him
for at least five seasons. Can't you find another wide receiver?
Can't you bring somebody else in? Can't you make a
play for it. When was the last time they had
a number one receiver Odell? Yeah, that's probably seven years ago.
I would take the quarterback on the affordable contract for
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five years over a playmaking wide receiver. And that's not
a shot the neighbors. He's really good. But I would
take the quarterback in that spot the reason and.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Then the other one. So it's like, I can see
why you would do what you did.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
The reason I would take probably Pennix and McCarthy over Daniels.
But again, this conversation Karthy hurt is that go back
like eight years ago, right, brought the oldell time when
Jared Goff and Carson Wentz were starting their careers. Carson
Wentz looked to be the future of the NFL, and
it was it's like no doubt, like, wow, the Rams
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got this wrong. The Rams should have gone Carson Wentz.
He's a way better player. He's tearing up the league.
And golf had not started, I believe till week seven
or week eight, and Everyone's like, well, this is a
done deal. Golf isn't playing, He's not good enough. Wentz
is a star. Seven eight years later, look where we are.
Golf is potentially the MVP of the NFL. And you
might have to wonder what roster Carson Wentz is on.
He's a backup for the Chiefs. So not I look
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at Panics and McCarthy not know. I would probably take
the quarterback. But guess what that whole scenario just laid
out and you just laid out for me, could be
twenty twenty five. Do you take Sanders Ers mill row Ward.
That's what it looks for a Giant fan because I
know some people are so sick and tired of us
coming on the air and blaming everything on Daniel Jones
and saying it's always Daniel Jones' fault. The coach needs
to blame the GM, the ownership. There's blame to go around,
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no doubt. But look, yes, there's one consistent problem for
a decade. Eli Manning's stunk at the end of his career,
legend Hall of Famer going in first ballot. We see
quarterbacks take at the end. They waited too long. Daniel
Jones isn't very good. They waited too long. They should
have did this two years ago, but the playoff win
screwed everything up, which is an odd thing to say
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out loud, but I think Giant fan knows exactly what
I'm saying. And now you're off to Germany this week.
Now you play the Panthers in Germany.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Congras relations Germany, You the Brian Congrats.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Dan Morgan, Bold, Joe Shane boll Uh.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
That's just not fun. It's not good. It's not good
nor fun.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Everybody needs a quarterback too. Like those teams, Panthers, Saints, Titans,
they all have the same minds at the Giants, remember
the Titans, Julius Chestu joke.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Listen, I don't know how to fix them. I don't.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
So did we give that stat about Daniel Jones's passing touchdowns?
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Yeah? Yes, yes, all right.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
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Speaker 1 (33:05):
Love the people there. They've always been very very good
to us. Hey, real quick, I know there's a lot
of hoop stories popping up all of a sudden. I'm
gonna ask you a question. Did did the Sacramento Kings
just become the favorite to win the NBA Finals?
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Next right here, Van Goys, Fox Sports Radio ninety five,
nine eighty.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
It's Love Ack and guzz on the voice of the
Capitol Regions sports Fan, Fox Sports ninety five to nine
and nine eighty.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
A lot of the GT toys that studio has toys
with a Z. Guys, what is the greatest jinks.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
In the NBA? Maybe all sports?
Speaker 3 (33:44):
The greatest jinks in the NBA?
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Maybe all sports? Uh?
Speaker 3 (33:49):
You mean like that rapper who used to put the
jinks on people? Are you talking about the broadcaster jinks
and the free throw line?
Speaker 1 (33:55):
I'm talking about when this person shows up support Drake,
When he supports your team, you fall. So logic dictates
if he's got some kind of hell of beef with
a player, that player will probably have a very successful season,
you would think, yes, DeMar DeRozan is catching straight hate
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from from your boy Jake or Drake whatever the hell's
name is, Audrey.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Is it Audrey?
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (34:29):
So he was talking.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Drake was on a one of the broadcasts talking about everything,
and he said, quote, if you ever put up a
DeRozan banner, I'll go up there and pull it down myself.
DeMar Derosen also appeared in Kendrick Lamar's Not Like Us
music video Drake hates DeMar DeRozan Now, which leads me
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to believe that the lineup of Daron Fox, Kevin Heurder
when he's healthy, DeMar de Rosen, Keegan Murray, and Demontis
Sabonis is going to win the NBA Finals because of
the reverse.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Drake Jinks, ok't what I want to tease and what
a payoff, la vac Well done, Well done. The Kings
two years ago, when Herder was healthy, were statistically the
most offensively efficient team in the history of basketball. That
is not a bit upsett, that is real. Go find that.
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That's how great the King's offense was two seasons ago.
So if you believe in Lvak's take of Drake Jinks,
in a team plus high efficiency. The Kings are for you.
I gotta go back to Derozant. Drake hates so I'm
assuming I believe the case is then Drake hates him
because something off the corporate.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
He was in the Kendrick Lamar video. Okay, and Drake
and Kendrick hate each other. They have beef yo that
I did know. I just wondered if it was just
simple sports fandom hatred where.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Right?
Speaker 3 (36:00):
And that's where it gets a little money for me,
because it's like, so DeRozan was loved in Toronto, but
he was a part of the Kawhi Leonard deal. So
a lot of people thought like, Okay, DeRozan's on the move,
Kawhi Leonard comes in, leads the Raptors to the title.
People felt like, well, DeRozan put in all the work
and Kawhi showed up on a group project. That's why
it was great. He was a leged as much as
a weirdo that he is, like, he was an all
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time great in that finals. So did Drake came to
me because he's like, thank god, DeRozan's out of here.
I can't stay. I don't know if it was just
straight sports I get the Kendrick thing happened, but I
love that Drake is almost lost sensibility as a sports
stand of I'll hate who I want and I'll hold
that grudge forever. That's gotta be it.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
So well. He also apparently at one point you can
see Drake.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Calling calling, wrote DeRozan a kitty cat. Bleep out of here,
kitty cat. You know what I'm saying. Oh uhs fired
back about the whole climbing up.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Because they were.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
They did, Vince Carter Jersey so uh. Tomortow Rosman followed
back with he's gonna have a long way to climb
to take it down. Tell him good luck.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
I guess it isn't just it's it's it's yeah, it's
gotta be about the whole. I guess the biggest part
of it is being in the the the Kendrick Lamard video.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
That's the biggest beef all right.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
By the way, Vince Carter love that guy. I'm a
Vince Carter fan. There was no argument whether or not
he's the greatest dunker of all time. There is no
argument he is the greatest dunker of all time. But boy,
the Internet has found their new meme. Poor Vince Carter.
I don't know if you saw the moment of when
his jersey was going to the rafters. If you haven't
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seen it yet, get on the internet. Vince Carter will
he may be the new crying Jordan. He may be
that because he's getting all emotional during it, but he's
I guess the best way of describe I'm gonna share that,
tom MG.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
It was easy on Twitter.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
It's sort of like a preacher having that moment where
he's gonna pay off and put the arms in the
air and something's gonna happen. People are using it all
over the place now about getting too emotional about certain
day to day tasks. So Vince Carter, you're the greatest
dunker ever, but you've just become the new sports meaning.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
See, this is why I could never actually be real famous,
because I would cry, Like if something really nice was
going on for me, I would cry. I would I
would have it would be the That's like, luckily I'm
not really famous. Like the we used to do when
I was on the converstation. We used to a show
called the Summer Picnic. So you go up and like,
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who was it the year? I mean, Craig Campbell. I
can't think who was that. Whoever the headliner was brought
me out on stage and the crowd said me, a
happy birthday.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Is that happened to be on my birthday? Oh? Wow?
I shoot? As I got off the stage, just buggers cry.
So I was like, it's the nicest thing I was done.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Bla blah blah blah blah, and mind you, I can't
remember who the hell the artist was now, but but yeah,
like that's I would never like if you retired my jersey.
Oh my god, dude, Like it's wrong that we're picking
on this guy for showing emotion that Again, I haven't
seen him yet.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
So Michael Jordan crying was going to the Hall of Fame, right,
wasn't it the moment?
Speaker 1 (39:18):
I believe so? And then why is that not okay?
Did you post it yet?
Speaker 3 (39:23):
Yes? At Tom goss Ez you should. You should see
it up now.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
I don't follow you, all right, I will set it
to you a second now.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Uh Vince Carter emotional Vince Carter nba uh it said,
you know what I'll do, I'll do the polite one.
I don't know. Hopefully that's not a dirty account.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
I just retweeted, Oh yeah, that's definitely yeah. He's praying,
he's he's got the he's got the hand thing going.
And then Jesus said that Abraham, like, that's you know, when.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
You take out the trash for your wife and she
compliments you. There's where you gotta c minus on your test.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
He looks good.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
There's a picture of him on the internet as well
of gosh, he's a former Leafs player. Sudan suit in.
I don't want to put the French accent on it. No,
s u d I n He played for the Leafs.
There's a picture of him and Carter when they played
for the Leafs and Raptors in on one and they
redid the picture twenty three years later and the hockey
player lost all of his hair. Vince Carter looks the
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same him and Richard Jefferson.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Man if Vince kind of grew his hair out, you'd
see he was older. But the fact that he keeps
everything shaved, he's it's smart.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Hm. I felt like you were talking to somebody when
you said that out loud.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
No, you just look like crap.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
I think I could shave my head and get away
with it.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
It's the saying is black don't crack, not sasquatch don't crack.
You know, if you don't make me make these jokes,
careful yell mcgillich will show up like this is.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
I might shave my head again, but I saw Manager.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
You can. But if you just got a haircut, you
look fine.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
But did you see manage Genobili? Mana Genobili shaved his
head and he still has a bald spot.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Okay, just I want to be very clear. You're not
in the same shape as Manager. You don't look the
same species head and style. I can no, you're you
gotta you got a big neck.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
This is this turned into what's on the Internet featured
Lavakian guys. Shane Bieber, who is the head coach of
South Carolina, has his video out there. This one is
definitely on my Twitter account where he's singing to his
wife in the locker with their singing the Fantasa uh
fantasious song When I see you Now, Shane Bieber's hair
is going to be me in five years, and I've
got to make a decision. Am I going with a
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Shane Bieber look or am I shaving my head as coach.
Biemer is living life right now for the upset over
A and M. But that's gonna be my hair. It's
either gonna be Vince Carter, it's gonna be Shane Bieber,
or it's gonna be this. Those three not Chenobile.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
I don't think it works, so any think it works?
Speaker 3 (41:59):
Oh, top four fors next