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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On episode sixty of the Mexican Ginger Podcast, we talked
about all the symbolism in the movie Centers, what mister
Irrelevant gets to do, the Chador Sanders prank call, and
a whole lot more all coming up next It's podcast time.
It's the Strawberry And was that Mexican Ginger podcast not
suitable for a younger audience?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
So?
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I know you don't follow the NFL draft, do you
at least know the t the drama with Shadoor Sanders
and the prank call?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
You know, we talked about it already, but like, do
you know.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Like how far like it went? Like the coach made
an apology? Do you know any you know, like the
finished part of it, the find? Do you know about
the fine?
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Uh No, maybe I don't think so. I don't I
know the gist of what happened.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Right, Okay, So for everybody else who may not have
known Chador Sanders Dion Sanders son, right, he's like, I'm
gonna be the greatest quarterback in this draft, pick and
you guys should pick me. Nobody picked him right and
everybody He's gonna go first round. Didn't happen, Well, he
did get picked did he get picked, like in the fourth,
fourth or fifth round?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Okay, So like at the very end.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
So he's live streaming his watch party, like, heybody watch me,
you know, be drafted into the NFL. He's live streaming
this and he has a phone number that he just
brand new phone number that he gave all the NFL people,
and all the NFL people have numbers of the players
that they want to draft, right private number. Nobody else
has it. So when he gets a phone call on it,
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he's like, oh, here we go, it's time for me
to draft. And the guy on the other end said
he was the general manager of the New Orleans Saints,
And here's the prank call jam the thanks.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
How you doing good?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Been waiting on you?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Yeah we have. It's been a long waiting man, for sure.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Take right here, man, but you're gonna have to wait
a little bit longer than that.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Okay, So.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
That don't even sound like a code.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Not at all. Like everybody Friday, that park goes viral.
The fact that there was a prank call to Dion
Sanders's son, that part goes viral. Everyone's like, well, this
has happened before. NFL players have been waiting for draft calls,
and this happened before the next day, this goofball puts
out the video of him pranking Chador Sanders, so he
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would have gotten away with it, but he told on himself.
He's like, heybody, I want the clout, here's the video
of me doing it. Well, people go, wait a minute,
that's just not some goofball college kid. That's the son
of an NFL coach. He's the son of the Atlanta
Falcons defensive coordinator jeff Orbrick. So he's like, hey, I
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got the number off my dad's iPad, and I thought
it would be funny to prank call shod Or Sanders.
So the dad, the coach, had a press conference today.
Imagine imagine going to work and your god damn son
right puts you in this position. So, first off, that's
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so something that my son would do.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Honestly.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Oh yeah, And that's that's part of what pisses me off.
Uh huh is because of that if that was me,
and now I have to go to work tomorrow son
and go on the radio and issue an apology because
you want to be a shit ass.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah. Not only that, there's a fine you in the story,
but like in reality, the coach, Jeffrey Rock, he got
fined one hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
The team now goes your car. Yeah you thought you
were getting.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Oh exactly, you're taking the bus. The team that he
works for is fined a quarter million dollars, so you.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Have to pay damn and iHeart the company. Yeah, so
in this case, now I'm losing my job. You're paying
one hundred grand. iHeart has to pay a quarter million.
They're firing me easily easy.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
I would be surprised if this coach doesn't get fired.
So now he the coach, his dumb shithead son made
this prank, and he's not like a fifteen year old,
Like I think the son's in college or at least
he's old enough to know that he's being a shithead, right,
so you would think.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
But I think.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
I think boys do shit like this all the time
because they think they're being funny, but like in reality,
they don't realize like, yeah, that might be too much.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
And he posted the video. He posted the video of
it stupid. So now here's his dad going to work
one hundred thousand dollars, you know, poorer, and he has
to make this apology to the world.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
First of all, I like to publicly apologize to Share
and Sanders family worker. Second of all, I want to
publicly to mister Blank, Terry Foutna, Ran Morris, the entire
Falcons organization. My actions, my actions i'm not protecting confidential data,
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were inexcusable. My son's actions were absolutely inexcusable, and for
that we are both deeply sorry. The NFL has taken action,
and I fully respect the punishment. We take full responsibility
my son and myself, and we will not be appealing
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to the fine in any way. Going forward, I promised
my son and I will work hard to demonstrate we're
better than this. Again, I'm deeply sorry for our actions.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
I just know. I just know he boxed his son.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Oh absolutely. We don't believe.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Now now they got to fight.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
They have to fight.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
We don't believe in what's it called child abuse.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
That's not child abuse, that's a grown man.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
I think this kid's in college. Your knuckle and this
is I know you don't know what this defensive coordinator
looks like, but just in envision what an NFL defensive
coordinator might look like. Yeah, oh yeah, you're going rounds
in the basement. With your with your kid.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Yeah, if he never gets drafted, now.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
You got no one blame but himself.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
I mean like I hope.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
You know that now no one's ever gonna want you
on their team. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Yeah, because you then wanting to be funny.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
I see this thing on TikTok and Instagram all the time.
It's like it's the quote is something like, it's something
like it's so funny to see people have no respect
for a digital footprint or no something like that, Like
you know, anything you put on the Internet that's gonna
live forever, like this goofball Olbrick. I don't even know
his real name, the Olbrick's son. He's gonna apply for jobs.
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His name's gonna be flagged like, oh, you're the little
chithead who called Deon Sanderson and the prank and cost
your dad a hundred grand, cost your dad's company a
quarter million.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
We don't want to hire you.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
I'm hiring you at Chipotle. Your liability no yo, And
he did, I mean to his to his credit, little
the kid. He posted some apology. He probably didn't write it.
He probably had chat GPT and the Atlanta Falcons like
pr team help him but it was a good apology.
He I guess he had a phone call with Shuder
(07:23):
Sanders like, hey, bro, sorry I was cloud chasing. I
ruined your day, I ruined your moment. And he did
issue an apology. But still, bro, you can't take that.
You can't take that moment back.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
But would he be apologizing if he didn't get caught,
if he'd if yeah, if it wasn't this big of
a deal.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
No, right, no, if I was.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
That's why I don't be believing people.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
No, Like, you're you're apologizing because all eyes are on
you right now and your dad's pissed, and every then
they're making you Yeah, it's not because you're like, oh,
it's not because you went home that night and was like.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Man, I really shouldn't have done that.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Felt guilty.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Yeah, yeah, I gotta hear.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
If I wish to do it, I'd be like, oh,
I'm still in the NFL, and you told on yourself,
Like you would have gotten away with this if you
didn't post that video online, Like hah, But that's just
me being petty exactly, so real quick on the one
of the last things I'm talking about football. So there's
this thing and I forget about it every year and
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then I hear about it. I'm like, oh, yeah, that's
hell of funny. So it's something called mister Irrelevant. So
when they go with the draft, like all the thirty
two teams they pick other people. There's you know, like
what five six, seven rounds of drafts, the very last
person drafted, the very very very last person drafted. There's
a nickname called mister Irrelevant. So what the NFL does,
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And this started in the seventies by somebody who was
picked last. He's like, we need to celebrate the fact
that somebody had a dream to go to the NFL.
Sure they got picked last, but at least they're in
the NFL. So even to this day, mister Irrelevant has
an entire week of celebrations for him. They fly him
out to southern California. This is whole week.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Wait, who does this the NFL.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
There's like a it was created in the seventies by
a former receiver and then it just took a life
of its own. So they're flown out to Newport Beach.
There's parades, they get to go golfing at some of
the best resorts with some of the biggest Superstars, they
go to Disneyland, they go to all these fancy restaurants.
There's a roast that's funny one of the and I
(09:27):
guess that you can also pick, like what do you
want to do during this week? This week is it's
up to you. One of the mister irrelevance chose to
go partying with Paris Hilton. So they partied in Hollywood
with Paris Hilton. Like they can do anything they want
for this full week. There's a regatta, there's an award ceremony,
there's a trophy for them, like it's a it's a
full on thing, and they do it every year.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
I want some scenes from Sinners with Michael B.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Jordan Boom. Yo, you told me that as soon as
you watch that movie all like your your algorithm was
all the same thing. Yeah, I have a million spoilers
and symbolism and Easter eggs time out. You know that
there's that scene at the end of the movie where
(10:14):
Preacher boys like spoiler alert by the way, Preacher boys
like ninety nine years old and like he's playing guitar, right,
you know that that end credit. You know there's a
second one after that. You did I didn't know. Yeah,
damn it, okay, so real quick, because.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
We we went into watching this movie. My boyfriend had
I think he watched some reel on Instagram about Sinners.
I think it was of Ryan Coogler talking about how
they shot the movie and what theater to watch the
movie in to get the best experience and to see
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the movie how it was intended to be seen. So
and I think in that and which by the way,
is like a big Imax theater screen or something like,
the bigger the screen, the better experience you'll have watching
the movie. According to Ryan Coogler, I think in that
he also mentioned that there were two damn it, like
(11:12):
credit and credit scenes. I knew there was one. Yeah,
so after that we left because I think they turned
the lights on. Yeah, so same, but you didn't leave,
you know. I can't remember because I thought we watched
(11:32):
both of them, uh huh, But he said, no, we
missed the second one.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Damn it, Okay.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
I had to see it on online, but I couldn't
remember because I had already I also had already seen
it on TikTok, but I could have swore I remember
seeing it and then being like that was weird.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Like, what was that supposed to mean?
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Do you know what it means? I can tell you.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Okay, So for anybody who saw the second edit, second
credit end credit scene, I'm not sure what it was.
It was young Preacher Boy. He's in his dad's church.
He's playing guitar. He doesn't have the scars on his face,
so it was obviously before the movie before. Yeah. Yes,
So he's playing guitar and he looks over. He's surprised,
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he looks out of it. He looks over because something
startles him. So the theory I'm seeing is that this
whole movie is about him selling his soul to the
devil to become the best R and B and blues person.
And I think in reality there is like an R
and B blues guitarist who looks like Preacher Boy from
back in the thirties that this movie is kind of
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about because there's a rumor that he sold his soul. Anyway,
so he's playing guitar, he's surprised, he looks over the side,
and then the movie ends. The backstory was that that
Irish guy, the Devil, the vampire remic, he shows up
and then surprised as the kid and the kid Preacher
Boy goes all right, look, I want to sell my soul.
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I want to be the best blue singer. It's like, cool,
you will, And then that that that's why the whole
thing started. And in the barn the juke joint, when
Remick says, hey, we're here for you, Preacher Boy, because
you made a deal with he said some weird shit
about like you know why we're here. We're here for you.
So he sold his soul to him in the in
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the in the end, and then the Irish guy comes
to collect at the juke joint.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
I thought that he sold it to the devil. I
haven't seen that it was remiic, but it makes.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Sense intertwined Remick with the devil. Okay, So also I
saw something while I was driving today watching TikTok behind
the wheel.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
So did you notice in the bar that he had
no reflection in the mirror?
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Did I just drop one on you who didn't have
a reflection.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
So the reason.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Why, the reason why people have pieced together he sold
his soul to the devil was because Preacher Boy was
because in the other end credit scene you saw the
one where he had his own club Pearline.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Which you know that was named after the girl.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
After the girl, the part where he's sitting at the bar,
and then what's their names? Mary and and Stacks? I
think it was Stack, Mary and Stack. Also they walk in,
they sit with him at the bar. If you pay attention,
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behind the bar basically where they're facing in front of
him is the mirror. You can see the bartender's reflection.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
But nobody else.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
But you can't see Mary's Stack or preacher boys.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Okay, that's why I'm gonna bring up. Do you know
how Mary and Stack survived? Did you catch that part?
They got bit?
Speaker 3 (14:52):
They didn't survive. What are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (14:55):
So at the very end when you mean how why
they didn't die as empires?
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yes, oh, okay, did you catch that part? Because when
the sun comes out, everybody, all the vampires die, right,
So is it Smoke or Stack.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Smoke is the one that survived and killed the KKK.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Okay, so Stack, so Stack and Mary Mary Smoke locked
them back in the barn in the juke joint to
protect them from the sun. And he goes look because
he knew the KKK was going to come in the
next morning. Remember when they showed up, they go, oh,
the thing's locked. Oh yeah, it's locked because they were
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in the barn, and he made that deal. Hey, look
the sun is up. I'll lock you in the barn
to protect you and save you. But you can't don't
fuck with Preacher boy. You can't like take it. You
can't kill Preacher boy. So that's how they made it
when all the other vampires disintegrated, they made it because
they were locked in the barn. They were locked in
the barn. I caught that today too. I have to
go see this whole thing, this whole movie again.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
I saw, okay, same I after I went down multiple
rabbit holes as the days went on, as more and
more people started watching Sinners, because we went to go
watch it Thursday night, like immediately as it hit theaters.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
We were there.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Yeah, So as more and more people started watching it,
more and more of these tiktoks yes would get made
and come out. So it was days of me just
going just going down these rabbit holes of people piecing
stuff together. And I saw another one that each character
is after one of the seven says right. But that
(16:37):
one's a lot of back and forth because everyone thinks
something different, so that one's kind of like.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Hmm, it could be a reach.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
I would have to ask Ryan Coogler.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
That'd be great to pick his brain. What does this mean?
Like we just bring him a list of all the
Easter eggs? What does this mean? What is this symbolize?
What is this?
Speaker 4 (16:54):
And after watching all these tiktoks, because I in piecing
together parts of the movie, of course, I am also
learning a lot about life in Mississippi in the thirties. Yeah,
you know, I'm Mexican. I don't know my parents' is not.
My parents sat and sat me down and talked about
(17:15):
why Asians were in the South and why Irish people
were there too, Like you know.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
What I mean?
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Then this isn't talked about in school. Like I just
like whatever. Yeah, I just thought their character.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Is a movie. I really didn't think anything of it.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
I didn't think it was weird that they didn't have
a their accent Asian.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
They had a Southern accent.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yeah, I didn't think that.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
I noticed it, but I didn't think it was weird
because I just was like, oh, obviously they grew up
there or something. Yeah, But after watching the Tiktoks, and
learning more about the history in the South back then
in the in the thirties when this movie takes place.
It made me, It made me really sit there and
be like, Wow, this motherfucker really thought of everything. And
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he was very he was very articulate about what he
was putting in the movie, who he was casting, like
every little detail is just like and so anyways, after
learning more about it, about Asians in the South and
about the Irish history, how that like mixes with Mississippi
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or the South in the thirties during slavery or whatever,
I also do want to go watch the movie again, Yeah,
because I think I will enjoy it more.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Uh huh, Okay, last thing I'm gonna say about Sinners.
You brought up the Asian thing. The lady, the lady
who tells the vampires come on in. Yeah right. I
was so pissed when she did that.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Same, And so in real life that actress, I forget
her name. She read the script and she goes, yo,
people are gonna hate me and hate my character because
I'm just like, hey, come on in, because my husband
is out there. He's right now. So she talked to cooler.
She's like, look, you have to explain to the audience
what this character is going through. So there was that montage.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
They added her daughter and stuff.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yeah, because the vampires like, we know where your daughter's at,
Like we're gonna go get her. So so what Coogler did.
He added this montage of the woman and the husband.
They're so happy and they have a daughter, and oh,
here's the daughter. She's alone, she's at the And that
montage did kind of come out of nowhere, but it
was inserted into the movie on her request, saying like,
people are gonna hate me, but at least give them
(19:26):
an idea of what my character is going through so
they could be like, oh, look, as a mom, I
might make the same request.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Yeah, And I knew it's interesting.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
I knew it from the beginning, right when the guy goes, hey,
are you gonna invite me in? And I'm like, no, no, no,
that's that's vampire shit, Like yeah, yeah, because I knew that,
like every vampire movie, there's a thing where like you
have to be invited into the house, Like, no, I
don't invite him in.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
I just I just knew.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
I caught that already.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
He was talking funny the minute they opened the door.
He was talking funny. I was like, that's not what
was his name, Bread, That's not corn.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Brad, my buddy, Omar Santose State.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Represent that's not carn Brad. Do you know him?
Speaker 1 (20:05):
I thought I told you the story. Yeah I did.
I did a scene with him. We were in class together.
We were at San Jose State. From a mile yes,
that was his first movie. So we were at Santose
State together. We were taking I took a bunch of like.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Okay, but can you call him?
Speaker 1 (20:19):
I have his He DMed me a little while ago.
Hold On, I don't think I have his number. We
DM each other all the time. Hold On, do I
have his number? O?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
M A R.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
I have a bunch of Omar's not him, though, I
can reach out to him because you and I were
talking about him and I DMed him about some question.
And then it was a couple years ago. I think
we were in Seattle. We we said something. We asked
him when you and I were talking about him, like,
oh yeah, let me DM him and he replied, but
then I never replied back, and so it was like
a couple of weeks ago. Question Mark, anyway, let me
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back up. We're at San Jose State. We're taking these
RTVF classes Radio Television Film, a bunch of pre requisites.
So there was like some like acting class I had
to take.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Okay, wait, hold on, is he ever like in town?
Why don't we have him in?
Speaker 1 (21:05):
He's a huge Hollywood star now, I mean I can
ask him.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Well, I know, but he has to come home and
visit sometime.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
I'll ask him. So we're in this scene together, right,
and so it's like three of us and I'm either
I don't know if I'm a copper, I'm some like
in town'm interrogating him on something.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Right.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
All I remember the scene is that I have to
like take a piece of paper and like shove it
in his shirt pocket. Be like, oh, yeah, well we
found evidence on you. And what I'm doing something where
I shoved paper into his shirt pocket as he's sitting
on this table at this table and I'm like, all right,
so I'm doing this scene with him and I shove
it in his pocket. I'm like, oh yeah, I'm a
pretty good actor, and like he did something. I'm like, oh, dude,
(21:43):
he's a hell a good actor. And later that year
or something, in the building in like the RTVF building,
the Radio Television Film Building. There are all these flyers
on the wall, like Omar Miller is Miller's last name,
Omar Jensen. Your friend will ask me he's gonna be
(22:04):
in this eight this movie eight Mile with aminem like
flyers all over the building, like he's gonna be in
this movie. I think that was his first movie, was
eight Mile, and then he blew up from that. He
was in Transformers, he was in What's the Hustle, the
thing with the Rocks. Oh, he's in the He's in
the show with rock on the Ballers. He's in Ballers. Okay, yeah, yeah,
he's in a ton of stuff. And yeah, so corn Bread,
(22:27):
that's my buddy. Corn Bread sounds like state represent Dope.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
We'll have him come in so we can pick his
brain about sinners. Yes, he maybe he can call Ryan Coogler,
like you ain't got to give us his number. You
cant him on your phone and put him on speaker.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Yes, we have questions, We have questions. That'd be dope.
Email myself to reach out to all because the thing is,
I need to take time to construct this request. I
can't just like whip it out.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Yeah yeah, yeah, that'd be dope.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
He's sick and with Shaquille O'Neal gonna be in Sack,
that's awesome. We have to have him in here somewhere,
you know what I mean, Like we have to reach
out to Shack and be like, bro, come into the station.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
You do it. I feel like if I do it,
no one's gonna take me. Seriously, he's so dope.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
We gotta do that.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Omar what's his name?
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Ben?
Speaker 1 (23:20):
I think it's Benson. It's either Benson or Miller. Why
do I have Omar Miller in my head? Who's Omar Miller?
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Benson?
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Boom?
Speaker 3 (23:26):
It's literally Omar Benson Miller.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Oh is that right?
Speaker 3 (23:32):
I'm like, that's literally his picture right there.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Oh that's so funny. That's funny. I'm like, why do
I think it's Benson? Okay, Omar Miller, Dude, I'm so
happy for him. There's there was a go Did.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
You know that? This is was Preacher Boys first movie?
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yeah? Is that his real voice? Also the singing voice,
because he's got a good singing voice. That's a great song.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
So I think I came across his his TikTok.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
What's that boy's name? Hold on? I'm sure he's tagged
on this Miles can't can't and yeah he sings.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
For real, He's dope. You know what's interesting with Hailey Steinfeld,
she she kind of maintained her accent from the movie
in all these press junkets that when she's talking about
the movie and being interviewed to promote the movie, like,
she still kind of has that accent. But in real
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life she doesn't have that accent, like you know, you know.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
I haven't heard her have that accent in any.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
It's in there, any press stuff. Yeah it's not not,
not a hundred percent, but it's it's in there. I'm like,
wait a minute, I don't recall you having that accent
in real life.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
No, she don't. She talk Hillow White.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Yeah, Mary.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Boy, if you don't get the fuck out my face.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Oh that was such a good name.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
I told you, did I not come in and be like, bitch.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
I think I went and saw that day because me
and y Yeah yeah we saw it that night. And
now I'm addicted all these Easter eggs and symbolisms. I
gotta go watch that again.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
I want to watch it again too.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
I wish it wasn't like because the whole No, no, no,
the whole movie is fire. But there's that one, like
fifteen minute section of the movie that's all about sex
and people fucking. When the whole fucking two scenes that
was all about sex and people fucking, what are you
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talking about? Like when he went when Preacher Boy hooked
up with Pearline, Well.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
That's in the club or in the juke joint?
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Yeah yeah, and then with Mary and Stack Yeah, fucking
in that back room.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Okay, you don't like that part?
Speaker 3 (25:55):
No, well you.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Didn't let me finish telling what I was gonna say.
Outside of that, the movie is great, and I wish
I could take my son.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
To see it, but because of that part, because let
me tell you, when we went to go see it,
we were sitting right next to like a nine year
old kid and it was so uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
What centers rated?
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (26:19):
All? Are?
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Probably?
Speaker 1 (26:21):
I don't even look anymore? What's stuffs rated? Because I'm
old enough to go Yeah? Nine, I mean sorry, r.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Traded nine now, I mean.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Like he's too young to be in there because it's our.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Because so I'm I'm a cool mom. I don't normally
care what the movies rated.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
I don't care.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
What they be in there talking about. I don't care
if it's drugs, I don't care. If it's fighting, shooting, gory, Like,
I don't care if my son watches that. But depending
on how sexual it is, Like, it's one thing if
they're just like, if it's just words, maybe sexual words,
that's one thing. But when it's like action, yeah, And
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it's not even the kind of scenes where it what's the.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Word cuts away?
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Yeah, where it's like kind of it's implied. It's not
one of those scenes where like it's implied and you
know that they're about to have sex or that they
just finished or something like that.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Even that I wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
Mind now they showed it, but the way they did
it in Sinners, I was like, I can't believe these
people have their kids in here.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
So it was the kid wasn't alone. He was with
his parents or with something.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Yeah, he was like with his entire family, And like
every time it came on, I kind of would like
look over at the kid and he's like just pretending
to keep his eyes on the popcorn bucket, Like I'm like,
I know that trick.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
You definitely fucking watching. But it just was so.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Like like I almost can't even enjoy the movie because
I'm trying to watch Michael B.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Jordan. Fuck Hailey Steinfeld.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
There's a nine ten year old kid sitting right next
to us, and I'm like, this actually is really awkward
because like I'm uncomfortable for it.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Would you have said something? Can you see yourself in
that situation, like saying something to your parents, saying something
to the kid's parents, Like, hey, don't.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
You think No, that's none of my fucking business.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
No, I don't know. I wouldn't do it either, but
like I'm thinking it, like I'm thinking you should get
your kid out of here for a couple of minutes. Yeah,
I wouldn't say it.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
Yeah, No, I wouldn't say nothing to them, because like
you're raising that boy, dude, take.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
You let him watch whatever you want to let him watch.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
But I don't know, maybe send him to the arcade
or something.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
But anyways, like some quarters outside of that, I.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Think I think even my son would really really enjoy
that movie.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah, well, your son would enjoy those scenes.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Off, he would enjoy that movie anyway, because.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Remember, you know what he likes.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Now, you just made this creepy. I don't want to now.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
I don't want to have to explain what we're talking about,
because that sounded really bad.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Uh yeah, he likes chicks. We just found out, was
that son likes chicks. He wants the world to know.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
I would, I would tell the story, but uh, I
don't want to embarrass him.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
I don't want to embarrass him.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
But I'd be more than happy to tell any one
of you in person one of these.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Do you ever see me on the street dm.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Us on Instagram at strat Strawberry and be like, Hey,
what's the story about your son? What's now?
Speaker 3 (29:34):
No?
Speaker 1 (29:34):
No, I was so psyched to tell you about sinners
and mister irrelevant.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Oh yeah, you I've been.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
I've been on the sinners rabbit holes types.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Yeah, so good.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
So every every single little Easter egg there is to
find in there, I'm pretty sure already learned about it
on TikTok with the different the two different stores they had,
and why the the lady was so just eager to
be there and make the sign and like like motherfuckers,
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dive deep into that shit.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Why there was like a white store and a black store.
Uh huh right, that was common? Yeah, I learned that. Yeah,
why was she eager to make the.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Sign, not not specifically eager to make the sign, but
it just it just went to show that.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
She was bored.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
No, not that she was bored.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
I forget exactly what they said, but it was it
was along the lines of of them wanting to them
as like Asians back in the day, I guess, wanting
to be included.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Mmm, so.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Okay, wanting to be included and wanting to like benefit
from what was good in a sense that like, yeah,
they're going to open this juke joint, and like they
were going to be involved in the opening of this
of the juke joint. But once they were there and
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shit started to go down, they were like, we don't
want to be here anymore. We want to leave, Like
we're not here for you, blah blah blah. Like it
kind of showed to to that like when shits, when
shit hits the fan, like they didn't want to be involved,
but when there's something to benefit from then like, yeah,
we're all ears.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
What do you need?
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Interesting? That's what I meant to say earlier. That's why
so all these Easter eggs and whatevers. I that's why
I love the DVD director's comment. Yeah, yeah, and movies
like this with a bunch of Easter eggs and hit meetings.
I would love to hear Ryan Coogler be like, oh yeah,
that's like like check out. You don't see it. You
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don't see a reflection, you don't see a reflection in
the bar mirror. Yeah, I'll be like, oh my god,
Ryan Coogler, You're right.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Watch it again.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Hell going to watch it again.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
Watch that that end credit scene again and you'll see
that there's no no reflection.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
And go see centers. If you guys haven't seen it,
it's like it's been like a twenty minute.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Well you don't need to see it anymore if you
listen to this whole thing gotten this far. But no,
I think it even still will be a very interesting watch.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Now with all this new information you have.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
For sure, holy callous, so good. And I didn't think
I didn't think, uh, major spoilert. I didn't think that,
uh Michael B. Jordan died at the end from his
bullet wound, and I'm like, oh, wait, he did. I
didn't think he was gonna I'm like, oh, he's gonna
make it. He's not gonna let the cake. No, because
he took.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Off his his the little bag he wore, Mojo bag,
the Mojo bag, he took it off, which means so
he didn't he didn't die. Uh when he went to
go see what's her name?
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Annie?
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Was it when he went to go see her and
she asked him do you still have the bag? And
he was like yeah, she she reblessed it. Yeah, it
was like a protection spell.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Or something like that.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
So he had it on throughout the whole movie. That's
why he didn't. He never got bit and like never
really got hurt. At the end, right before he was
about to do that shootout with the KKK.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
He took it off.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Oh, he took it off. I think because.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Because Annie's dead.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
He didn't have it because yeah, his brother was dead,
Annie was dead, everybody was gone. So I think he
took it off because he also just wanted to die,
like there's no more jup joint. He started a fucking
war between who was it, the Irish or the Italians
and the Italians like yeah, so I think they made
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it a point to show that he like wasn't wearing
it anymore, that he took it off because he knew
he knew, like this was the end. Just let just
let me go.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
So one also said that was the only time in
the movie he smiled, as that character was when he
saw his daughter when he was you know, about to crossover.
They said that was the only thing because he was
the serious one, was the serious one. Smoke was the
silly fun one. Yeah. So they said Smoke was the bullshitter. Yeah,
they said Stack that was the only time that he spoke.
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I never noticed.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
See now I gotta watch it again and see if
he smiles.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
Did you catch at the end when she caught him
a Elijah, Yeah, real name.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
That was supposed to be all super symbolic too.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Oh about what like the prophet Mohammed or something? She said.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
She said, I forget exactly what the words are, but
something along the lines of like like Elijah, you can
come hold your baby, but put that cigarette out, yeah,
because I don't want you to get none of the smoke. Owner.
So she was essentially saying, like, leave smoke behind, leave
your old life, aka your life is smoke, leave it behind,
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Come start your new life. Come be who you really are, Elijah,
and be with me and your baby.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
That's the only thing I did. I just kept getting
them confused. I knew there was a serious character in
the Smiley character low key. Their names kept.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
Confused too, because I also noticed that they wore colors.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Yeah, red and blue.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Yeah, And I was trying to like keep up with
who was wearing red and who was wearing blue, but
I just couldn't.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Also, they dove in. One was wearing more Italian suits
and one was wearing more Irish wear. What looks like
but you'll look like, okay when they're doing the thing,
when they're passing the cigarette back and forth, you can
be like, Okay, he's dressed more like an Irish person
and this one's dressed more like an Italian person, to
kind of show like, hey, they robbed both or they
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stole from both symbolism.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Wow wow wow had you say it earlier? Oh wow?
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Okay, let's wrap this up. Thank you for letting us
spoil the movie for you. Oh I forget how I
did it? Oh wow?
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (36:02):
All right?
Speaker 1 (36:02):
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Speaker 3 (36:05):
Oh we forgot to call about the queers.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Okay, Oh yeah, we're gonna call what then?
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Yeah, we'll do it next time.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
I'm I hope we don't I promise we're going somewhere
with this.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
I hope we don't, just so someoney be like, what
did Lazette say on that last podcast? They never they
never circled back.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
I'm at last that love l I Z E T t.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
E l O v e E.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
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