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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the We Don't Podcast, starring husband and wife
Mojo from Mojo in the Morning and his better half Chelsea.
On this episode.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
On this episode of the We Don't Podcast, somebody's got
a big birthday within days of this podcast being recorded. Yep,
And you just got a chance to celebrate with one
of your friends that same exact birthday.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yes, her big birthday.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Yeah, And I wanted to know if you had any
reflection on that and how you want to spend your
Can I say your birthday?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
I don't care?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
All right, we'll start off the podcast with that.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Well, all right, all right, all right, without further delay,
here are Mojo and Chelsea.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
So you got a big birthday coming up? I do
Do you like the words of what you're turning? Do
I like the words yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Or the number?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah? The number? Because I have not said the number
at all.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Oh, you've set up before, have I?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
And I've said it. I'm sure, Yeah, you've set up before.
I've said up before, We've all said it before.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
We had a conversation with your friend that just celebrated
this birthday, and she didn't seem like she wanted to
say the number. So I don't know how you feel
about it.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I'm fine. I'm fine with it. Are you fifty? I'm
gonna be fifty?
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I think that getting old is or older is a
privilege that not many people get to have.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
How long have you felt that way?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
I don't know. I don't know. I think I'm just
trying to reframe it so I don't get depressed wondering.
But I mean, it's funny because a couple of my
friends had a really hard time. I think men have
a really hard time with the age forty, and then
maybe women have a harder time with fifty. But I
haven't had a hard time with any decades so far.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
It's funny that you say that because I think forty
was great for me. I think fifty was really bad
for me.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
See, I think you had a really hard time with forty.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Really yeah, I thought forty was a great. Explain what
you think.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I I remember you having a difficult time with journeying
forty because you.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Threw a party from me, and I thought, I thought
a I thought I looked good when I was forty.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Okay, And I thought, I just remember you having a
hard time with the number.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
It's interesting because well, it's weird because fifty seemed weird
to me, but also fifty was COVID, right, and so
nobody was doing shit at that time, and we all
probably thought that the world was going to end. So
to me, the only thing that really bummed me out
was the fact that I wanted to do something big
for my fiftieth Like I really wanted this to go
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on a trip or to do something kind of you know,
fun and crazy, and we couldn't do anything, you know,
so it never really happened, right, So I actually thought
with you and you turn in fifty, and I know
that we just you know, we talked on the previous
podcast about us going on a vacation. I loved seeing
(03:15):
you being able to do that. But it wasn't until
your friend Jenny turned fifty and I was on the
phone with you guys, and you guys were going to
a she was getting having a birthday party that was
being thrown for her, and she just opened up about
how she was just not happy about it.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
She wasn't happy with a couple of days before her
actual birthday when we had the party, so she wasn't
happy that. Like even that morning she and I went
out and she's like, I'm just kind of depressed. But
as a day and night went on, she got really happy.
So I think once she realized everyone was there to
celebrate her and be with her, she got better with it.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
How did it make you think about it again?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I I don't feel fifty. I don't you know, I
know fifty to say it is wow. I think for
me it's more like, okay, but my parents are older
and I need to spend time with my parents. Get
fifty for me. Fifty for me means that they're getting
older and I need to spend time with them, more
time with them.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah. What was it like for you to see all
your friends that you grew up with?
Speaker 3 (04:26):
I told you it was There's something about being your
around your friends that you grew up with because they
hold a lot of your hold all of your childhood memories,
and so it's really comforting, especially when you don't see
them out you know a lot. So seeing everyone was
really fun. Some I hadn't seen since I graduated from
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high school. From high school, yeah, a couple of the girls,
So it was fun.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
How how is it that you haven't seen them since
high school, but yet they're you and Jenny are so close.
Is Jenny still friends with them? And that's how.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
So Jenny got divorced around four or five years ago,
and she's actually dating someone that we went to high
school with. And he lives back in the same Vicinity
neighborhood area that he lived in as a child, and
a lot of our friends still live around there. So
she got reacquainted with a bunch of them through dating him. Okay,
(05:24):
so they all hang out.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
So for her, over the course of what the last
few years or a couple of years that she's been
dating her boyfriend, she's then become friends with these guys.
Are these people that you guys would hang out with.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
When you're yeah school? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:42):
So you guys were all kind of a because I
had I had a I had two groups that I
hung out with in high school. One was the group
that I actually truly was friends with. The other was
the group that I just went to school with. Sure,
how are these guys.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
So they were the ones that we hung out with
them went to school with. I mean it's the same
the same group.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I know where you got but you were you guys
with each other like on the weekends a lot.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Or like, yeah, it was Yeah, go.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
To high school football games and parties after words, bonfire
and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Yea.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
And the because you moved. For those that don't know,
I met Chelsea when I was in Tucson doing radio
and Tucson and you had just gotten out of high
school and then we got married, had kids. All these
people that you went to high school with pretty much
either went out of college or not. A lot of
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them went and had kids. No, so you were probably
the youngest out of the crew to have.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Kids, get married and have kids right away. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
So many of them probably started families way later. And
uh huh was it weird for them to see you?
And because we moved out of your hometown of Arizona
and Tucson, Arizona when you were not even thirty right.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Yeah, again, because they had gone to other places to college,
had moved to other states. We've been following each other
on Facebook, right, so I've been watching their journeys that way.
But and then it's funny a lot of them ended
up back in Tucson. The couple of the ones that
moved away, and some of them didn't get married, some
(07:24):
dated each other, some later in life dated each other too,
so it's pretty funny.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
And did any of them have kids together or any
of them?
Speaker 3 (07:35):
There were a couple that did end up getting married
and having kids, but they were high school sweethearts.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Are they still together?
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Are they okay? So what was it like for you?
Because I always you know, they say, you know who
says you can't go home? And sometimes you go home.
Does it make you wonder, like what life would have
been like for you if you would have stayed in
Arizona and you know, maybe maybe married one of the
(08:03):
people that you went to school with.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Why do you because you're treading, you're walking on the
fin line. I I mean, I guess sometimes you wonder
what our life would be like if we stayed in Tucson.
You know, I wonder what the boys would be like.
Would they have gone to the U of A or ASU?
(08:28):
Would they have gone further? Would they have gone to Chicago?
Would they You know, they are things that I wonder.
But it's also you know, I'm glad that we're I'm
glad that I raised my kids in the Midwest. Like
I'm very grateful for things that they that they turned
out the way that they did. Do you want me
to tell you that I wish I married somebody else?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
No? No, I don't. Okay, So Chelsea and I have
this thing where anytime she goes back to Tucson and
she visits with her old friends, I talk about how
there's there's only one person that has ever made me
jealous in the entire time that we've married, even though
there's been many guys that hit on you. I mean
guys openly hit on you in front of me, and
(09:10):
I don't get jealous that much, maybe because I don't
feel that there's competition. But there's a guy that you
went to high school with that, for some reason, I
don't know what it is, makes me jealous. And I
think that maybe the reason he makes me jealous is
because I know how close you guys were. And I
don't think that you are necessarily a person that's attracted
(09:32):
to somebody romantically. I think you're attracted to somebody emotionally,
and I think that you have an emotional tie with
this guy.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
I do.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah, that's why I think that jealousy comes into play.
Like I think attractive guys have hit on you and
it has never affected me. But I know that it's
just you know that you look way past looks.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Are you saying that he's not attractive?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I don't know, because I haven't seen him on since
you were in since he was at our wedding.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
No, you saw him after that. He came to the
kid's birthday parties.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah, but I don't remember. I honestly, the only time he.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Came to my twenty fifth birthday party, he and his
mom did.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Okay, all right, I do you remember that?
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yeah? Yeah, you invited him to that?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yeah, which is interesting because isn't it wild that I
can look past my jealousy to make sure that you have,
you know, friendships that are there.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Well, I think we both have had to look past
things in our relationship.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Yeah, So how was that? How was it seeing him?
Speaker 3 (10:34):
It was good? It was good.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Did you like when you when you It's.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Good to catch up with everything that's going on in
his life. It's good to catch up with everything that's
going on in everyone's life.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
You know, I probably should have just facetimed you with
him right there so you could get over it.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
I am over it. I don't think, first off, I don't.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Actually you're not over it because you keep on continuously
bringing it up if you were over it.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I brought it up on this podcast because it was
a conversation on our show, and I thought that it
was this was a good opportunity for us to just
sit there and have a conversation about it. So and
if you don't want to.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Talk about it, well it's I don't know what you
want to talk about. I don't know if you want
me to make up this elaborate thing.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Oh, there's no, no, just that I just I think
that no. I think that we get personal on this
podcast conversations with our listener about you know, the things
that go on in our lives. And it's funny because
I loved that you got to go back there, like,
actually it's fun when you were back there. I would
check in with you, what once a day or something
(11:35):
like that maybe, and we would have conversations and I
thought it was really cool. And then all of a
sudden I brought this up, and you felt like I
ruined your entire trip by bringing this up.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Well, because you can, you harp on it all the time.
And by the way, I just don't think it's fair
to him that it's always like he is this.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
I'm not saying he's tried to do anything.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Okay, well, but I just feel like before on the show,
it's always been, you know, like some kind of jealousy
thing that if you want to be jealous about him,
then I can't control you and I can't say to you, don't.
I mean, I've tried, But if you want to be
jealous about like, it's but for me, it's just like
enough already, Okay, enough, Like there are things that you
(12:19):
have done in our relationship that has caused massive issues
and problems, and you have said to me before get
over it. And I have a choice to harp on
that and keep that, which I have a very valid
reason to harp on some things and to keep them,
(12:39):
or if I want to stay in this marriage, I
can get over it and move forward.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
So but I don't think you ever get over it
because you've not gotten over your your situation that you're
talking about you're referring.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
To, Well, it's hard to get over when it's in
your face all the time. Yeah, So I haven't had
a chance to get over it. Getting over it. There's
two different things you know that we're like Yours is
something that's in your head that you can't handle. And
then mine is something that is a daily reminder all
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the time.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
You know, so in your and you want to you
want to explain the other one. You can. You can
go ahead and say that no, that I paid for
a person on the show. I paid part of their salary.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
For three years and did not tell me. Yeah, And
it was a huge issue in our marriage because it
wasn't you didn't even tell me. You had to have
you had to fly your agent and come down at
dinner in a public restaurant and tell me. And it
was a level of I felt betrayal. And you know,
(13:58):
you couldn't come to me and say, hey, I'm thinking
of doing this, are you okay with it? And of
course I would have said no, because I wasn't, But
then it was something we could talk about instead. It
was he flew your agent flew in and said, hey,
tomorrow we have to write a check to so and
so and we're gonna have to do this for three years.
(14:20):
And I was just you know, taken back and really
felt betrayed. And because I thought at that point that
was a really good part in our marriage, I thought,
and it would just blew everything out of the water
for me.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yeah, and it was one of those things that honestly
I screwed up with. I should have been more forthcoming
and talked to you ahead of time about and it
literally put us in therapy at least a couple of times, right,
I mean, I think it put us in therapy.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
And I still have a hard time. Yeah, I still
have a hard time getting over it.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
But yeah, but it's interesting because you kind of make
you that more valid than mine. But even though mine
is my my thing that' I struggle, I'm not making
it more valid.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
I'm just saying that this is something that is in
my face every.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Day and where my situation is something that rarely only
a couple of yeah times.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Yeah, yeah, And let me ask you a question about that,
not not that, not that you're I'm not invalidating your feelings.
But it's like, how many times and fights have you
told me that I have to get over it and
I have to move on, But yet you are harping
on this. I just feel like it's so unfair and
so contradictory.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
But I but I don't I mean to listen, I
will say this to you that I don't believe that
my jealousy that I have because my jealousy is on me.
It's not on you. It's how how I treat it.
And I think that and I've taken ownership of that.
(16:02):
Like I've not said, I don't think that you're I guess.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
I guess.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
I just I have a hard time with the fact
that you have a huge platform and you talk about it,
and I feel like it's it's planting little seeds like
I'm going to go and have run off with him
or I'm it's not fair.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
It makes you feel that I'm planting seeds.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
By you bringing it up. It's not just a discussion
that you and I have, It's a discussion that you
have with millions of people as well. They get to
have their input in it. And I think that's really unfair.
If you just want to say it to me, that's
so different because, by the way, we've never discussed what
you did to me, right, That wasn't That's never been
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a topic on your show. That's never Like, I just
think it's really unfair that it is something that is
brought up on such a huge platform and a huge audience.
It's not fair.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
But I think if I think that if I was
on the air in your hometown, I don't know if
i'd bring it up on the air.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
So here's the thing. When you've been syndicated there, you
have brought it up, and it has gotten back to
me that you've brought up his name and talked about it.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Has he brought it up to you at all?
Speaker 3 (17:13):
No, he has not. Some other people have brought it
up to me, like, why is he even talking about him?
I'm like, I don't, I don't know, I don't know.
I just I don't know. So again, it's a big platform.
I just wish like this could be something between us
that you would just just not everything has to be
a topic for the radio, you know, especially if it's
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something that's really bothering you and something that's going to
affect our marriage, we should probably address that just the
two of us before you take it in front of
your big audience, because it doesn't help the situation.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I think that jealousy is an interesting thing because I
think that jealousy comes up a lot of times in
relationships because people feel that they aren't getting everything that
they wish that they were getting out of a reallyationship.
And I think that there are times where I feel
like the intimacy between you and I is not as
strong as I wish it was. Sure, And there are
times when I feel like and when I mean intimacy,
(18:11):
I'm not talking about how much sex we have or
don't have or don't have, but I'm talking about I
don't think that there are times when I hear how
happy you are when you do something. I don't think
that I make you that happy. And I think that
your past sometimes makes you happier than I feel like
(18:31):
I make you wow, And so I think that that's
where And I don't know if anybody else feels this
way sometimes in their relationship, but I think that sometimes
when your relationship is lacking something like where you feel
like you're just not you guys are completely connected. I
feel like in this has happened before with you, where
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you feel like my family Sometimes I get greater joy
out of my family than I do out of you.
That you've brought that up before, and I think that
sometimes it it does cost for a struggle.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Well, let me flip the script in me, not.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
So much a struggle for you, because obviously you're not struggling.
It doesn't seem like but I struggle with that.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
So for me, it's hard to hear on the radio.
You know, you talk about all the people you grew
up with, Tracy Rozac, let's say, or all these female
names that you spit out all the time, or women
that you talk about how gorgeous and how beautiful and
how hot they are, and then you talk to listeners
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and the way that you get really sometimes a little
you know, oh, you're like things that you a normal
husband wouldn't say in front of his wife or for
a million people to hear. It makes it uncomfortable. Now,
I've had to deal with that for however many years
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you've been on the radio, and I've taken that as
of this is what it is. But it's funny to me.
So when you sit there and talk about jealousy and
how you think that you don't do anything and it's
because you're lacking something in our marriage, I can turn
that around right back on you and say, hey, dude,
for years, years I've had to hear you, in my opinion,
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be lust full after women you don't even know or
have known, and I'm supposed to just sit there and
when you come home have sex with you or come
home and be quote unquote intimate with you. You know, you
have to put stuff into this marriage too. It's not
just on me. It's like a lot that and I think,
(20:44):
I don't think you intent I know you don't intentionally
do that, but you have to know that a lot
there has been over thirty years of me sitting in
the background listening to the person that you are on
the air, which a lot of it is you, but
a lot of it isn't you know. It's a lot
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of it is a quote unquote character that you try
to portray on the air. I know who you are
genuinely at heart, but I also hear what is being
portrayed and what is being said on the air, and
for me, it's you know, it makes me very callous
and numb to you in certain areas, you know, because
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and then it's and then it's so you're upset and
jealous of this one person in my life. It's almost
laughable to me because of everything. And I'm not invalidating you,
but it's funny because you don't understand what you've done
to me on the air and what that's what that has.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Done to me has uh and this is actually really
good to bring up because I do think that there's
a lot of times where people experiencing their relationships a
jealousy that comes up, and it might be a jealousy
of that's not necessarily a physical jealousy, but emotional jealousy.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Sometimes has When I've talked about when when a when
a female listener, sometimes we'll call and I'll tell them, oh,
you're beautiful or whatever the deal is that has actually
hurt you saying that.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
When they when they're in when they are in studio
and you're just like, oh my god, you are just
oh my like you. Sometimes it's like a little bit
overboard where it's like okay, by all means, yes, there
are beautiful women out there, and you should tell women
that they're beautiful.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
One.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
It's your tone, it's the way that you say it.
It's you know, there are a lot of things in there.
And I don't think you are intentionally doing it to
be a creeper or to be you know, wanting to
get her phone number later. I don't think that that's
your intention. But I think that sometimes if I'm on
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an off day, or I'm not feeling good about myself,
or if we're in a bad place, and you can
continue to do it and say it. It makes me
insecure for sure.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Can I ask you then this question? I compliment you
so many times.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
I don't like compliments.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
I know this is the thing that really bothers me
sometimes in our relationship where I tell you, like I
think right now, and for the listeners, I'm going to
be outward on this. Chelsea is right now the most
gorgeous that I've ever seen her in my life. And
I've been lived with you for a long time. Probably
(23:34):
you would say way too long, yes, But out of
our entire thirty almost years of marriage thirty what two
three years that we've been together thirty two, I have
never ever been more attracted to you than I am
right now. And I tell you all the time, and
you give me the heisman. Do you know what the
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heisman is? No, so there's a trophy and.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Oh with his hand he's got his hand out yeh yeah,
yeh yeh yeh yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yeah, yeah, you do that all the time.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
I'm uncomfortable with compliments, but you know that about me,
I don't know. I don't know. So again, it's not
that I need you to tell me every day that
I'm beautiful, and I appreciate that you think that I am.
I really really do.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Like I just want to fuck so bad tonight after
we do this podcast.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Well that's not going to happen.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Okay, go back to what you're going.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Here's the heisman.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
That's one of those same statements, like when you know,
I try to become like Howard Stern and get go ahead.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Didn't he divorce his first wife?
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Have you seen what his second wife looks like? Well?
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Good, well then you know it unbelievable. Then number two
for you, I am really bad at compliments. I don't
I feel uncomfortable when you compliment me. And I don't
know why, but I have a hard time when anyone
compliments me.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
I don't think you do well.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
I I just told you that I did compliment you,
and it.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Makes you feel good, like I feel like I make
you more uncomfortable sometimes, when.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Have you heard anyone compliment me?
Speaker 2 (25:08):
And I don't talk about like your friends. When your
female friends tell you something, it makes it makes your day.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
I say thank you. I don't know you are so wrong.
I get very uncomfortable with it. Yeah, I say thank you,
and I try to I'll say it's because my best
friend owns a medical spa, and I like, have you know,
she teaches me all the tricks, Like I don't, I
don't sit there and go thank you. I probably should.
(25:36):
I probably should, because guess what, it's gonna these looks
are gonna fade pretty soon. But I don't know why
I feel uncomfortable with it. I just do, and I
don't know. And maybe there's a deeper route when it comes,
especially from you. Maybe I feel it's not genuine because
you say it so much to everybody.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Well, that's interesting that you bring up, because that's what
I wonder.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Well, so maybe maybe I just don't think it's.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Genuine because I know that there's times complimented women and
you're like, you think you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (26:04):
That is true? I have? Yeah, so it does. Yeah,
but listen, I will tell you the only time, not
the only time, the times that I have felt like
shocked and oh my god, it was so genuine and
not shocked. But like when the boys tell me, mom,
you are so pretty, like that to me is like wow,
(26:29):
only because I created them, you know, And I'm like, well,
you think that because you look like me. But not really,
but to me, you know, when my dad says I'm beautiful,
like he probably has to, but it just makes me
feel you know, yeah, I don't know. I probably should
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really figure out from why I have a hard time
taking it from you and from but from other people too,
I really really do. I don't know why you haven't
heard that, but you can ask my friends when they
say it. We all say it to each other, but
I just thank you. But it's because like I never
just say thank you.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
You You talk about some of your friends, and one
of your friends is a beautiful woman, and we'll get
compliments from guys, and we've been together when she's gotten complimented.
We've also been in situations where we've heard people compliment her.
And I've heard people compliment you. And I'll tell you, hey,
(27:34):
I was, you know, out with so and so today
and he was just talking about how gorgeous you are
or whatever, and you'll you always deflect it and go
he was probably talking about your friend, and I'm like, no,
he was talking about you. And it blows me away
because I I almost wish you were like your friend
(27:54):
where it made you, because I know it makes it
or not one particular friend. You know, you've got a
couple of friends. There's a couple of friends of yours
that if a guy says how beautiful they are, they
love it. It just it gives like I like, you know,
I like when people will say to me, you know, man,
you look so good, or I had people will comment
(28:15):
on something and say, oh, Mojo's hot, feel great, my
white pants, white pants Friday. But that makes me feel good.
It makes me feel really good. You are the only
person I know that you analyze the thing by saying
now or whatever. You deflect it, and it blows me
away because and maybe it has something to do. And
(28:39):
I don't know, because I always think everything has to
do your childhood and how your dad, you know, biological father,
you know, left. But I know how much your dad, Joe,
your dad dad, how much he would tell you, how much,
how beautiful you are, because Jesus Christ. That always felt
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like I had to compete with that.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
But and your mom and your grandfather, Oh my god,
your grandfather, Chelsea's grandfather. Literally, this woman walked on water,
which she does walk on water. She won't admit it,
but no, but it's always tough. So as you're it's
tough being your husband.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
I'm sure, but it's also really hard being.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Your wife, and hearing you say what you say makes
me more aware, and that's why I think. You know,
we've talked about this podcast sometimes becoming an awareness for us,
but I think we definitely. I did make a a
call to which, by the way, is not very good
that I still haven't heard back from him. But I
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made a call to our therapist because you had asked
me to. You got really mad at me for bringing up.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
That's not why I was mad at.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
It, but you were mad at me because I was.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
That's but that's not why I was mad that you
brought the boys into you our fight, and I thought
that that was really horrible.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Yeah, so I did make a so for our listeners,
we're very much open with you that we're going to
go back to therapy and do some therapy. If I
ever get a call back from our therapist, I know
that it's not I'm not like looking at the time
and really as you are, but I am looking at it.
(30:25):
But for anybody that is listening to this, I have
a couple of words about jealousy, and one of the
things that I would say, is this, I need to
become more aware of the words that I say, and
the stories that I tell, and the things that I do,
(30:47):
probably the actions that I have that make you feel insecure,
and I do need to be aware of that. And
I don't know if anybody else, you know, can hear
this and say, oh wow, I say some things that
I think I'm joking about, and I always do that
I'm joking.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
The worst word you always say, I'm joking.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
And I will say this that in the job that
I do, our majority of our listeners are females. I've
always tried to be one of those people that I'm.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Not and I'm not saying do not interact with them,
do not tell them like tell them that they're beautiful,
make them feel special. One thing about you that is
so amazing is you walk into a room and you
make everyone feel like they not now because you're watching
TV behind me, I'm not Oh yes, you are a
football game. So you walk into a room and you
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make everyone feel like they are said hello to in
a conversation, like they're the most important person in the room.
They walk, you walk out of a room, and you
may not remember their name because you're horrible with names,
but you have left that room and everyone feels that
(32:05):
they are important or they are special. I would don't
ever change that. Don't ever change making people feel that
they are special at all. I'm not asking you to
do that. I'm just asking you to be a little
bit more aware of certain things that you do that
would make me feel insecure. And it's been, honestly, it
has been so many years that it becomes at first
(32:28):
it's hurt and then it turns into a callous like
where you don't feel it. Every once in a while,
the wound gets rubbed and you remember that. Okay, that
really irritates me and hurts me. But there's just parts
of me that has become really closed down and rough
because of it. You know, it's And by the way,
(32:50):
have I not said that to you before. I have
said to you before that this has bothered me. So
but when the behavior continues and continues, and I don't
think again you're doing it maliciously, I just think that
that's who you are. So part of me is like, well,
for me to protect myself, then this is how I
go into survival mode. For me, And if we're going
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to make this marriage work and stay in it, then
there are going to be some concessions that come from
my side. It can't always be about how you want
it without you working for it with what with you know,
issues that I have, if that makes sense, you know.
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And by the way, I'm not saying that you're the
only one that is. You know I don't. I know
for a fact that I never talk about him because
I know that he bothers you. I know for a
fact that, And honestly, one thing that I regret I
was really close with his mom she died. Never went
(33:58):
to the funeral. I really really regret that, just to
pay respects to her, I didn't do it. We were
in a horrible time in our marriage and I knew
if I had gone, you would have just been beside yourself.
I regret that because I think that you and I
(34:18):
are mature enough to I would never tell you you
couldn't do that, and I would think that I would
hope that you would say to me, go.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
And honestly, I would tell you that you should go. Yeah,
I'm sorry that I made you feel that way.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Well, by the way, I'm the one that I'm the
one that did. Like I should have just come to
you regardless.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
So but I'm still sorry. And I would say to
you I'd love to hear you talk more because then
I would feel more comfortable. I really would. And listen, you.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Two have a lot more in common than you realized.
I came home and told you that I know you did.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
You actually said you should go golfing with him. Yeah,
fucking four hours. Actually we probably would.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Get along, you would.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
I'd love him to be married to you for a
fucking day. See what would be like.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Maybe he'd love it.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Beth Stern something to say, that's his new wife, Beth.
I just want you to know that. All right, this
is good. I feel like this is good. This is
a good podcast. I think it is good. I don't know.
We'll see what people say.
Welcome to the We Don't Podcast, starring husband and wife
Mojo from Mojo in the Morning and his better half Chelsea.
On this episode.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
On this episode of the We Don't Podcast, somebody's got
a big birthday within days of this podcast being recorded. Yep,
And you just got a chance to celebrate with one
of your friends that same exact birthday.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yes, her big birthday.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Yeah, And I wanted to know if you had any
reflection on that and how you want to spend your
Can I say your birthday?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
I don't care?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
All right, we'll start off the podcast with that.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Well, all right, all right, all right, without further delay,
here are Mojo and Chelsea.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
So you got a big birthday coming up? I do
Do you like the words of what you're turning? Do
I like the words yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Or the number?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah? The number? Because I have not said the number
at all.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Oh, you've set up before, have I?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
And I've said it. I'm sure, Yeah, you've set up before.
I've said up before, We've all said it before.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
We had a conversation with your friend that just celebrated
this birthday, and she didn't seem like she wanted to
say the number. So I don't know how you feel
about it.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I'm fine. I'm fine with it. Are you fifty? I'm
gonna be fifty?
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I think that getting old is or older is a
privilege that not many people get to have.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
How long have you felt that way?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
I don't know. I don't know. I think I'm just
trying to reframe it so I don't get depressed wondering.
But I mean, it's funny because a couple of my
friends had a really hard time. I think men have
a really hard time with the age forty, and then
maybe women have a harder time with fifty. But I
haven't had a hard time with any decades so far.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
It's funny that you say that because I think forty
was great for me. I think fifty was really bad
for me.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
See, I think you had a really hard time with forty.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Really yeah, I thought forty was a great. Explain what
you think.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I I remember you having a difficult time with journeying
forty because you.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Threw a party from me, and I thought, I thought
a I thought I looked good when I was forty.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Okay, And I thought, I just remember you having a
hard time with the number.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
It's interesting because well, it's weird because fifty seemed weird
to me, but also fifty was COVID, right, and so
nobody was doing shit at that time, and we all
probably thought that the world was going to end. So
to me, the only thing that really bummed me out
was the fact that I wanted to do something big
for my fiftieth Like I really wanted this to go
(02:55):
on a trip or to do something kind of you know,
fun and crazy, and we couldn't do anything, you know,
so it never really happened, right, So I actually thought
with you and you turn in fifty, and I know
that we just you know, we talked on the previous
podcast about us going on a vacation. I loved seeing
(03:15):
you being able to do that. But it wasn't until
your friend Jenny turned fifty and I was on the
phone with you guys, and you guys were going to
a she was getting having a birthday party that was
being thrown for her, and she just opened up about
how she was just not happy about it.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
She wasn't happy with a couple of days before her
actual birthday when we had the party, so she wasn't
happy that. Like even that morning she and I went
out and she's like, I'm just kind of depressed. But
as a day and night went on, she got really happy.
So I think once she realized everyone was there to
celebrate her and be with her, she got better with it.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
How did it make you think about it again?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I I don't feel fifty. I don't you know, I
know fifty to say it is wow. I think for
me it's more like, okay, but my parents are older
and I need to spend time with my parents. Get
fifty for me. Fifty for me means that they're getting
older and I need to spend time with them, more
time with them.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah. What was it like for you to see all
your friends that you grew up with?
Speaker 3 (04:26):
I told you it was There's something about being your
around your friends that you grew up with because they
hold a lot of your hold all of your childhood memories,
and so it's really comforting, especially when you don't see
them out you know a lot. So seeing everyone was
really fun. Some I hadn't seen since I graduated from
(04:46):
high school. From high school, yeah, a couple of the girls,
So it was fun.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
How how is it that you haven't seen them since
high school, but yet they're you and Jenny are so close.
Is Jenny still friends with them? And that's how.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
So Jenny got divorced around four or five years ago,
and she's actually dating someone that we went to high
school with. And he lives back in the same Vicinity
neighborhood area that he lived in as a child, and
a lot of our friends still live around there. So
she got reacquainted with a bunch of them through dating him. Okay,
(05:24):
so they all hang out.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
So for her, over the course of what the last
few years or a couple of years that she's been
dating her boyfriend, she's then become friends with these guys.
Are these people that you guys would hang out with.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
When you're yeah school? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:42):
So you guys were all kind of a because I
had I had a I had two groups that I
hung out with in high school. One was the group
that I actually truly was friends with. The other was
the group that I just went to school with. Sure,
how are these guys.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
So they were the ones that we hung out with
them went to school with. I mean it's the same
the same group.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I know where you got but you were you guys
with each other like on the weekends a lot.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Or like, yeah, it was Yeah, go.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
To high school football games and parties after words, bonfire
and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Yea.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
And the because you moved. For those that don't know,
I met Chelsea when I was in Tucson doing radio
and Tucson and you had just gotten out of high
school and then we got married, had kids. All these
people that you went to high school with pretty much
either went out of college or not. A lot of
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them went and had kids. No, so you were probably
the youngest out of the crew to have.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Kids, get married and have kids right away. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
So many of them probably started families way later. And
uh huh was it weird for them to see you?
And because we moved out of your hometown of Arizona
and Tucson, Arizona when you were not even thirty right.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Yeah, again, because they had gone to other places to college,
had moved to other states. We've been following each other
on Facebook, right, so I've been watching their journeys that way.
But and then it's funny a lot of them ended
up back in Tucson. The couple of the ones that
moved away, and some of them didn't get married, some
(07:24):
dated each other, some later in life dated each other too,
so it's pretty funny.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
And did any of them have kids together or any
of them?
Speaker 3 (07:35):
There were a couple that did end up getting married
and having kids, but they were high school sweethearts.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Are they still together?
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Are they okay? So what was it like for you?
Because I always you know, they say, you know who
says you can't go home? And sometimes you go home.
Does it make you wonder, like what life would have
been like for you if you would have stayed in
Arizona and you know, maybe maybe married one of the
(08:03):
people that you went to school with.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Why do you because you're treading, you're walking on the
fin line. I I mean, I guess sometimes you wonder
what our life would be like if we stayed in Tucson.
You know, I wonder what the boys would be like.
Would they have gone to the U of A or ASU?
(08:28):
Would they have gone further? Would they have gone to Chicago?
Would they You know, they are things that I wonder.
But it's also you know, I'm glad that we're I'm
glad that I raised my kids in the Midwest. Like
I'm very grateful for things that they that they turned
out the way that they did. Do you want me
to tell you that I wish I married somebody else?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
No? No, I don't. Okay, So Chelsea and I have
this thing where anytime she goes back to Tucson and
she visits with her old friends, I talk about how
there's there's only one person that has ever made me
jealous in the entire time that we've married, even though
there's been many guys that hit on you. I mean
guys openly hit on you in front of me, and
(09:10):
I don't get jealous that much, maybe because I don't
feel that there's competition. But there's a guy that you
went to high school with that, for some reason, I
don't know what it is, makes me jealous. And I
think that maybe the reason he makes me jealous is
because I know how close you guys were. And I
don't think that you are necessarily a person that's attracted
(09:32):
to somebody romantically. I think you're attracted to somebody emotionally,
and I think that you have an emotional tie with
this guy.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
I do.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah, that's why I think that jealousy comes into play.
Like I think attractive guys have hit on you and
it has never affected me. But I know that it's
just you know that you look way past looks.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Are you saying that he's not attractive?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I don't know, because I haven't seen him on since
you were in since he was at our wedding.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
No, you saw him after that. He came to the
kid's birthday parties.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah, but I don't remember. I honestly, the only time he.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Came to my twenty fifth birthday party, he and his
mom did.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Okay, all right, I do you remember that?
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yeah? Yeah, you invited him to that?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yeah, which is interesting because isn't it wild that I
can look past my jealousy to make sure that you have,
you know, friendships that are there.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Well, I think we both have had to look past
things in our relationship.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Yeah, So how was that? How was it seeing him?
Speaker 3 (10:34):
It was good? It was good.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Did you like when you when you It's.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Good to catch up with everything that's going on in
his life. It's good to catch up with everything that's
going on in everyone's life.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
You know, I probably should have just facetimed you with
him right there so you could get over it.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
I am over it. I don't think, first off, I don't.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Actually you're not over it because you keep on continuously
bringing it up if you were over it.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I brought it up on this podcast because it was
a conversation on our show, and I thought that it
was this was a good opportunity for us to just
sit there and have a conversation about it. So and
if you don't want to.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Talk about it, well it's I don't know what you
want to talk about. I don't know if you want
me to make up this elaborate thing.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Oh, there's no, no, just that I just I think
that no. I think that we get personal on this
podcast conversations with our listener about you know, the things
that go on in our lives. And it's funny because
I loved that you got to go back there, like,
actually it's fun when you were back there. I would
check in with you, what once a day or something
(11:35):
like that maybe, and we would have conversations and I
thought it was really cool. And then all of a
sudden I brought this up, and you felt like I
ruined your entire trip by bringing this up.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Well, because you can, you harp on it all the time.
And by the way, I just don't think it's fair
to him that it's always like he is this.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
I'm not saying he's tried to do anything.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Okay, well, but I just feel like before on the show,
it's always been, you know, like some kind of jealousy
thing that if you want to be jealous about him,
then I can't control you and I can't say to you, don't.
I mean, I've tried, But if you want to be
jealous about like, it's but for me, it's just like
enough already, Okay, enough, Like there are things that you
(12:19):
have done in our relationship that has caused massive issues
and problems, and you have said to me before get
over it. And I have a choice to harp on
that and keep that, which I have a very valid
reason to harp on some things and to keep them,
(12:39):
or if I want to stay in this marriage, I
can get over it and move forward.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
So but I don't think you ever get over it
because you've not gotten over your your situation that you're
talking about you're referring.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
To, Well, it's hard to get over when it's in
your face all the time. Yeah, So I haven't had
a chance to get over it. Getting over it. There's
two different things you know that we're like Yours is
something that's in your head that you can't handle. And
then mine is something that is a daily reminder all
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the time.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
You know, so in your and you want to you
want to explain the other one. You can. You can
go ahead and say that no, that I paid for
a person on the show. I paid part of their salary.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
For three years and did not tell me. Yeah, And
it was a huge issue in our marriage because it
wasn't you didn't even tell me. You had to have
you had to fly your agent and come down at
dinner in a public restaurant and tell me. And it
was a level of I felt betrayal. And you know,
(13:58):
you couldn't come to me and say, hey, I'm thinking
of doing this, are you okay with it? And of
course I would have said no, because I wasn't, But
then it was something we could talk about instead. It
was he flew your agent flew in and said, hey,
tomorrow we have to write a check to so and
so and we're gonna have to do this for three years.
(14:20):
And I was just you know, taken back and really
felt betrayed. And because I thought at that point that
was a really good part in our marriage, I thought,
and it would just blew everything out of the water
for me.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yeah, and it was one of those things that honestly
I screwed up with. I should have been more forthcoming
and talked to you ahead of time about and it
literally put us in therapy at least a couple of times, right,
I mean, I think it put us in therapy.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
And I still have a hard time. Yeah, I still
have a hard time getting over it.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
But yeah, but it's interesting because you kind of make
you that more valid than mine. But even though mine
is my my thing that' I struggle, I'm not making
it more valid.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
I'm just saying that this is something that is in
my face every.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Day and where my situation is something that rarely only
a couple of yeah times.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Yeah, yeah, And let me ask you a question about that,
not not that, not that you're I'm not invalidating your feelings.
But it's like, how many times and fights have you
told me that I have to get over it and
I have to move on, But yet you are harping
on this. I just feel like it's so unfair and
so contradictory.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
But I but I don't I mean to listen, I
will say this to you that I don't believe that
my jealousy that I have because my jealousy is on me.
It's not on you. It's how how I treat it.
And I think that and I've taken ownership of that.
(16:02):
Like I've not said, I don't think that you're I guess.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
I guess.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
I just I have a hard time with the fact
that you have a huge platform and you talk about it,
and I feel like it's it's planting little seeds like
I'm going to go and have run off with him
or I'm it's not fair.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
It makes you feel that I'm planting seeds.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
By you bringing it up. It's not just a discussion
that you and I have, It's a discussion that you
have with millions of people as well. They get to
have their input in it. And I think that's really unfair.
If you just want to say it to me, that's
so different because, by the way, we've never discussed what
you did to me, right, That wasn't That's never been
(16:41):
a topic on your show. That's never Like, I just
think it's really unfair that it is something that is
brought up on such a huge platform and a huge audience.
It's not fair.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
But I think if I think that if I was
on the air in your hometown, I don't know if
i'd bring it up on the air.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
So here's the thing. When you've been syndicated there, you
have brought it up, and it has gotten back to
me that you've brought up his name and talked about it.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Has he brought it up to you at all?
Speaker 3 (17:13):
No, he has not. Some other people have brought it
up to me, like, why is he even talking about him?
I'm like, I don't, I don't know, I don't know.
I just I don't know. So again, it's a big platform.
I just wish like this could be something between us
that you would just just not everything has to be
a topic for the radio, you know, especially if it's
(17:35):
something that's really bothering you and something that's going to
affect our marriage, we should probably address that just the
two of us before you take it in front of
your big audience, because it doesn't help the situation.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I think that jealousy is an interesting thing because I
think that jealousy comes up a lot of times in
relationships because people feel that they aren't getting everything that
they wish that they were getting out of a reallyationship.
And I think that there are times where I feel
like the intimacy between you and I is not as
strong as I wish it was. Sure, And there are
times when I feel like and when I mean intimacy,
(18:11):
I'm not talking about how much sex we have or
don't have or don't have, but I'm talking about I
don't think that there are times when I hear how
happy you are when you do something. I don't think
that I make you that happy. And I think that
your past sometimes makes you happier than I feel like
(18:31):
I make you wow, And so I think that that's
where And I don't know if anybody else feels this
way sometimes in their relationship, but I think that sometimes
when your relationship is lacking something like where you feel
like you're just not you guys are completely connected. I
feel like in this has happened before with you, where
(18:55):
you feel like my family Sometimes I get greater joy
out of my family than I do out of you.
That you've brought that up before, and I think that
sometimes it it does cost for a struggle.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Well, let me flip the script in me, not.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
So much a struggle for you, because obviously you're not struggling.
It doesn't seem like but I struggle with that.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
So for me, it's hard to hear on the radio.
You know, you talk about all the people you grew
up with, Tracy Rozac, let's say, or all these female
names that you spit out all the time, or women
that you talk about how gorgeous and how beautiful and
how hot they are, and then you talk to listeners
(19:37):
and the way that you get really sometimes a little
you know, oh, you're like things that you a normal
husband wouldn't say in front of his wife or for
a million people to hear. It makes it uncomfortable. Now,
I've had to deal with that for however many years
(19:58):
you've been on the radio, and I've taken that as
of this is what it is. But it's funny to me.
So when you sit there and talk about jealousy and
how you think that you don't do anything and it's
because you're lacking something in our marriage, I can turn
that around right back on you and say, hey, dude,
for years, years I've had to hear you, in my opinion,
(20:21):
be lust full after women you don't even know or
have known, and I'm supposed to just sit there and
when you come home have sex with you or come
home and be quote unquote intimate with you. You know, you
have to put stuff into this marriage too. It's not
just on me. It's like a lot that and I think,
(20:44):
I don't think you intent I know you don't intentionally
do that, but you have to know that a lot
there has been over thirty years of me sitting in
the background listening to the person that you are on
the air, which a lot of it is you, but
a lot of it isn't you know. It's a lot
(21:04):
of it is a quote unquote character that you try
to portray on the air. I know who you are
genuinely at heart, but I also hear what is being
portrayed and what is being said on the air, and
for me, it's you know, it makes me very callous
and numb to you in certain areas, you know, because
(21:26):
and then it's and then it's so you're upset and
jealous of this one person in my life. It's almost
laughable to me because of everything. And I'm not invalidating you,
but it's funny because you don't understand what you've done
to me on the air and what that's what that has.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Done to me has uh and this is actually really
good to bring up because I do think that there's
a lot of times where people experiencing their relationships a
jealousy that comes up, and it might be a jealousy
of that's not necessarily a physical jealousy, but emotional jealousy.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Sometimes has When I've talked about when when a when
a female listener, sometimes we'll call and I'll tell them, oh,
you're beautiful or whatever the deal is that has actually
hurt you saying that.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
When they when they're in when they are in studio
and you're just like, oh my god, you are just
oh my like you. Sometimes it's like a little bit
overboard where it's like okay, by all means, yes, there
are beautiful women out there, and you should tell women
that they're beautiful.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
One.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
It's your tone, it's the way that you say it.
It's you know, there are a lot of things in there.
And I don't think you are intentionally doing it to
be a creeper or to be you know, wanting to
get her phone number later. I don't think that that's
your intention. But I think that sometimes if I'm on
(22:54):
an off day, or I'm not feeling good about myself,
or if we're in a bad place, and you can
continue to do it and say it. It makes me
insecure for sure.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Can I ask you then this question? I compliment you
so many times.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
I don't like compliments.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
I know this is the thing that really bothers me
sometimes in our relationship where I tell you, like I
think right now, and for the listeners, I'm going to
be outward on this. Chelsea is right now the most
gorgeous that I've ever seen her in my life. And
I've been lived with you for a long time. Probably
(23:34):
you would say way too long, yes, But out of
our entire thirty almost years of marriage thirty what two
three years that we've been together thirty two, I have
never ever been more attracted to you than I am
right now. And I tell you all the time, and
you give me the heisman. Do you know what the
(23:56):
heisman is? No, so there's a trophy and.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Oh with his hand he's got his hand out yeh yeah,
yeh yeh yeh yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yeah, yeah, you do that all the time.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
I'm uncomfortable with compliments, but you know that about me,
I don't know. I don't know. So again, it's not
that I need you to tell me every day that
I'm beautiful, and I appreciate that you think that I am.
I really really do.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Like I just want to fuck so bad tonight after
we do this podcast.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Well that's not going to happen.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Okay, go back to what you're going.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Here's the heisman.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
That's one of those same statements, like when you know,
I try to become like Howard Stern and get go ahead.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Didn't he divorce his first wife?
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Have you seen what his second wife looks like? Well?
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Good, well then you know it unbelievable. Then number two
for you, I am really bad at compliments. I don't
I feel uncomfortable when you compliment me. And I don't
know why, but I have a hard time when anyone
compliments me.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
I don't think you do well.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
I I just told you that I did compliment you,
and it.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Makes you feel good, like I feel like I make
you more uncomfortable sometimes, when.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Have you heard anyone compliment me?
Speaker 2 (25:08):
And I don't talk about like your friends. When your
female friends tell you something, it makes it makes your day.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
I say thank you. I don't know you are so wrong.
I get very uncomfortable with it. Yeah, I say thank you,
and I try to I'll say it's because my best
friend owns a medical spa, and I like, have you know,
she teaches me all the tricks, Like I don't, I
don't sit there and go thank you. I probably should.
(25:36):
I probably should, because guess what, it's gonna these looks
are gonna fade pretty soon. But I don't know why
I feel uncomfortable with it. I just do, and I
don't know. And maybe there's a deeper route when it comes,
especially from you. Maybe I feel it's not genuine because
you say it so much to everybody.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Well, that's interesting that you bring up, because that's what
I wonder.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Well, so maybe maybe I just don't think it's.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Genuine because I know that there's times complimented women and
you're like, you think you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (26:04):
That is true? I have? Yeah, so it does. Yeah,
but listen, I will tell you the only time, not
the only time, the times that I have felt like
shocked and oh my god, it was so genuine and
not shocked. But like when the boys tell me, mom,
you are so pretty, like that to me is like wow,
(26:29):
only because I created them, you know, And I'm like, well,
you think that because you look like me. But not really,
but to me, you know, when my dad says I'm beautiful,
like he probably has to, but it just makes me
feel you know, yeah, I don't know. I probably should
(26:52):
really figure out from why I have a hard time
taking it from you and from but from other people too,
I really really do. I don't know why you haven't
heard that, but you can ask my friends when they
say it. We all say it to each other, but
I just thank you. But it's because like I never
just say thank you.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
You You talk about some of your friends, and one
of your friends is a beautiful woman, and we'll get
compliments from guys, and we've been together when she's gotten complimented.
We've also been in situations where we've heard people compliment her.
And I've heard people compliment you. And I'll tell you, hey,
(27:34):
I was, you know, out with so and so today
and he was just talking about how gorgeous you are
or whatever, and you'll you always deflect it and go
he was probably talking about your friend, and I'm like, no,
he was talking about you. And it blows me away
because I I almost wish you were like your friend
(27:54):
where it made you, because I know it makes it
or not one particular friend. You know, you've got a
couple of friends. There's a couple of friends of yours
that if a guy says how beautiful they are, they
love it. It just it gives like I like, you know,
I like when people will say to me, you know, man,
you look so good, or I had people will comment
(28:15):
on something and say, oh, Mojo's hot, feel great, my
white pants, white pants Friday. But that makes me feel good.
It makes me feel really good. You are the only
person I know that you analyze the thing by saying
now or whatever. You deflect it, and it blows me
away because and maybe it has something to do. And
(28:39):
I don't know, because I always think everything has to
do your childhood and how your dad, you know, biological father,
you know, left. But I know how much your dad, Joe,
your dad dad, how much he would tell you, how much,
how beautiful you are, because Jesus Christ. That always felt
(29:00):
like I had to compete with that.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
But and your mom and your grandfather, Oh my god,
your grandfather, Chelsea's grandfather. Literally, this woman walked on water,
which she does walk on water. She won't admit it,
but no, but it's always tough. So as you're it's
tough being your husband.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
I'm sure, but it's also really hard being.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Your wife, and hearing you say what you say makes
me more aware, and that's why I think. You know,
we've talked about this podcast sometimes becoming an awareness for us,
but I think we definitely. I did make a a
call to which, by the way, is not very good
that I still haven't heard back from him. But I
(29:45):
made a call to our therapist because you had asked
me to. You got really mad at me for bringing up.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
That's not why I was mad at.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
It, but you were mad at me because I was.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
That's but that's not why I was mad that you
brought the boys into you our fight, and I thought
that that was really horrible.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Yeah, so I did make a so for our listeners,
we're very much open with you that we're going to
go back to therapy and do some therapy. If I
ever get a call back from our therapist, I know
that it's not I'm not like looking at the time
and really as you are, but I am looking at it.
(30:25):
But for anybody that is listening to this, I have
a couple of words about jealousy, and one of the
things that I would say, is this, I need to
become more aware of the words that I say, and
the stories that I tell, and the things that I do,
(30:47):
probably the actions that I have that make you feel insecure,
and I do need to be aware of that. And
I don't know if anybody else, you know, can hear
this and say, oh wow, I say some things that
I think I'm joking about, and I always do that
I'm joking.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
The worst word you always say, I'm joking.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
And I will say this that in the job that
I do, our majority of our listeners are females. I've
always tried to be one of those people that I'm.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Not and I'm not saying do not interact with them,
do not tell them like tell them that they're beautiful,
make them feel special. One thing about you that is
so amazing is you walk into a room and you
make everyone feel like they not now because you're watching
TV behind me, I'm not Oh yes, you are a
football game. So you walk into a room and you
(31:44):
make everyone feel like they are said hello to in
a conversation, like they're the most important person in the room.
They walk, you walk out of a room, and you
may not remember their name because you're horrible with names,
but you have left that room and everyone feels that
(32:05):
they are important or they are special. I would don't
ever change that. Don't ever change making people feel that
they are special at all. I'm not asking you to
do that. I'm just asking you to be a little
bit more aware of certain things that you do that
would make me feel insecure. And it's been, honestly, it
has been so many years that it becomes at first
(32:28):
it's hurt and then it turns into a callous like
where you don't feel it. Every once in a while,
the wound gets rubbed and you remember that. Okay, that
really irritates me and hurts me. But there's just parts
of me that has become really closed down and rough
because of it. You know, it's And by the way,
(32:50):
have I not said that to you before. I have
said to you before that this has bothered me. So
but when the behavior continues and continues, and I don't
think again you're doing it maliciously, I just think that
that's who you are. So part of me is like, well,
for me to protect myself, then this is how I
go into survival mode. For me, And if we're going
(33:12):
to make this marriage work and stay in it, then
there are going to be some concessions that come from
my side. It can't always be about how you want
it without you working for it with what with you know,
issues that I have, if that makes sense, you know.
(33:35):
And by the way, I'm not saying that you're the
only one that is. You know I don't. I know
for a fact that I never talk about him because
I know that he bothers you. I know for a
fact that, And honestly, one thing that I regret I
was really close with his mom she died. Never went
(33:58):
to the funeral. I really really regret that, just to
pay respects to her, I didn't do it. We were
in a horrible time in our marriage and I knew
if I had gone, you would have just been beside yourself.
I regret that because I think that you and I
(34:18):
are mature enough to I would never tell you you
couldn't do that, and I would think that I would
hope that you would say to me, go.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
And honestly, I would tell you that you should go. Yeah,
I'm sorry that I made you feel that way.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Well, by the way, I'm the one that I'm the
one that did. Like I should have just come to
you regardless.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
So but I'm still sorry. And I would say to
you I'd love to hear you talk more because then
I would feel more comfortable. I really would. And listen, you.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Two have a lot more in common than you realized.
I came home and told you that I know you did.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
You actually said you should go golfing with him. Yeah,
fucking four hours. Actually we probably would.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Get along, you would.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
I'd love him to be married to you for a
fucking day. See what would be like.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Maybe he'd love it.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Beth Stern something to say, that's his new wife, Beth.
I just want you to know that. All right, this
is good. I feel like this is good. This is
a good podcast. I think it is good. I don't know.
We'll see what people say.
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