October 17, 2024 • 30 mins
Humane Animal Rescue of Pittsburgh's Wildlife Rehabilitation Center cares for more than 4,000 sick, injured or abandoned wildlife each year.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
And welcome in. This is a public affairs program shedding
the light on the interest, issues and concerns of the
Greater Pittsburgh area. Good morning, My name is Johnny hart Well.
Today's topic is Humane Animal Rescue with Pittsburgh or HARP.
As one of the largest animal welfare organizations in Pennsylvania,
HARP has been committed to the welfare of animals, pet owners,
and the Greater Pittsburgh community for over one hundred and
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fifty years. With two domestic animal shelters and a wildlife
rehabilitation center, HARP is a trusted and caring resource, helping
more than twenty six thousand animals each and every year,
which is amazing. And in studio, old friend, Michelle Frenier,
the director of marketing, thank you for coming in. Good disease.
You look fabulous by the well, Thank you. You do
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not have to get dressed up for Sunday morning, but
you look absolutely stuff.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Thank you again, It's always good to see you. Good
and old friend.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Now, I know we're going to be talking a lot
about the wildlife for rehab, but let's talk about the
shelters that we're getting into the winter season. Does that
increase the sensus of the of the shelters. What's what's
going on?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yeah, overall, I think again, shelters across the country are
seeing an increase in our capacities and our senses. You know,
more and more animals are in our shelters. They may
be surrendered, you know, whether folks are having difficulties caring
for pets. So we are seeing, you know, that we
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have more animals that we're caring for. And what HARP
is hoping to do is in addition to trying to
find those animals homes, is to keeping trying doing our
best to keep animals in homes that they already are.
So we have offer a lot of pet supportive services.
So if someone is facing some difficulties financially feeding their
pet or providing them with veterinary care, HARP can help.
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We have a pet food pantry, we have other items
dog beds, crates, collars, those kind of things that we
can help people in need. We all so offer two
low cost veterinary clinics so that folks, you know, as
we know, the cost of care you know, is increasing,
but you know, through our two domestic shelters, folks can
come there. They don't have to have adopted animals from
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us to use those services. So all of those well
services minor surgeries so that they can be handled at
our clinics. And we also have a behavior training so
if somebody is facing some challenges in that area, so
we have a pet helpline, so folks or you know,
not sure what to do, we encourage them to reach out.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
All right, So if somebody needs help or you know,
the food or you know, behavioral things like that, what
do you recommend you go to the website, call you
what do you want got our.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Website or call our pet helpline. You know, our website
is Humane Animal Rescue dot org and if you look
under the resources page, all of that information is there.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
At Christmas time, do you get a lot of people
who are looking to adopt a pet for Christmas? Or
is it the other way around, Well.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
We would discourage folks to kind of do that, you know,
you know, puppy in a box kind of thing, because
adding a furry friend to your family is really, you know,
something that you need to prepare for and think about,
and you certainly don't want to surprise you know, a grandchild,
you know, again, you want it to be a planned
you know, making sure that you're ready, making sure that
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there are other pets in the home.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
This is a toy from Walmart, right, This is a
commitment exactly, decades of committment.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
And puppies and kittens are certainly cute and cudy and
we love them, but they are like babies. So again
it is you know, all those trainings and sleepless nights
and high energy. So again, somebody, if they're maybe looking
to do that, we would encourage them to, you know, again,
come visit, make you know, not make it a surprise,
and again really think about what's best for their family.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
You always want to encourage adoptions, but you have to
do it in a smart, smart way exactly. Okay, I'm
glad you said that because I feel the same way Christmas.
You know, you're surprised a kid. They may be interested
for a week, two weeks, and that is a serious
commitment exactly.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
And again it's like baby proofing a home. You have
to prepare for an animal. You know, what are they
going to get at? What could they get into that
could be seriously dangerous or again, you know you have
to teach them to to you know, how to walk
on a leash ure you know where their food is.
How to you know, use the outside facility. You want
it to be a planned event.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Well, I've had my dog for nine years. He's still
trying to treat it. Takes work on both sides. Y Okay. Now,
the reason why we're here this morning is we want
to talk about the humane animal rescue of Pittsburgh's Wildlife
Rehabilitation Center. CASE takes care of four thousand six injured
in an abandoned wildlife each and every year. And joining
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me is Katie Cafalis, the director of Wildlife Rea Abilitary.
Really like boy, it's really hard for me to say
wildlife rehabilitation. So good morning, It's nice to meet you, Katie.
How are you good?
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Good, I'm really happy to be here. Thank you, look nice.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
To Michelle went overboard. I don't want to press it
up for me. I mean, it's just the radio guy.
So this is our first time kind of doing this
radio kind of thing here.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Yeah, yes, for me, this is my first time.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Well, let's start talk about the history of the Wildlife
Free here.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Yeah. So, our facility has been open since nineteen ninety
seven and we have been slowly increasing our numbers ever
since we rehabilitate with the goal of re release all
native PA wildlife.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Okay, yeah, it's not like dogs, cats we're talking about.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Yeah, we're talking about great horned owls and raccoons and beavers,
the whole nine yards.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
And this is kind of unique. This is a unique
situation in Pennsylvania. This is about the only rehab center
here in western PA. Right.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Yeah, so we are one of the larger wildlife rehabilitation
centers in the state, and on this side of the
state we are the largest. There really isn't too many
rehab centers in the state of Pennsylvania, so we all
do kind of help each other out, but we are
the biggest in southwestern PA.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Let me ask you, so, where do you find these animals?
Do people bring them to you? Do you go out
and get them? And what's the process of if you
see an injured animal? How do you what do you
need people to do?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Yeah, so we always advise people to give us a
ring if they see something that they think needs human
intervention in some capacity. So not everything that you may
see on the outside is actually a call for human intervention.
We get a lot of times baby napping where people
assume that babies are orphaned and they might not be.
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So we we want people to give us a call
to help kind of investigate if they actually need to
be brought in or not.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
So give us some examples.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Ah, So some examples, so Eastern Cottontails, I would say,
are maybe our number one biggest baby nappers. So the
mother only comes to the nest twice a day. She
does this for her baby's protection and from predators. But
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oftentimes people will see them alone in the yard and
think that their orphaned, when really mom is hanging out
on the outskirts, watching and making sure that she's protecting
her babies, but keeping a distance. So we have techniques
that we ask people to do to essentially ensure that
mom isn't coming back, because certainly if mom isn't coming back,
we want to make sure that those babies get brought in.
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But it does take some investigating to be sure without
any obvious signs such as very physical injuries, bleeding things
of that capacity.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
What size animals are you able to rehabilitate?
Speaker 3 (08:06):
We rehabilitate everything from small deer mice to coyotes.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
How about deer, So.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
We don't actually accept white tailed deer, so our facility
just isn't equipped to handle that large of an animal.
There are other licensed rehabilitators in the state that do
rehab fawn and do very well, so we usually ask
individuals that can confirm that fawn have been abandoned to
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reach out to one of those rehabilitators.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
What my role.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I am the director of wildlife Rehab for HARP and
I do everything from exams, cleaning dishes to coming here
and trying to educate. Our staff is about thirteen year round,
and then we do get to bring on a few
seasonal animal care individuals to help us, but everything else
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is all volunteer and intern based, which is really wonderful.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
What is Katie's typical day.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
That's a hard question. There really isn't, but that is
a part of why I do love my job. It's
not every day that I'm sitting down at a desk.
Michelle can probably attest I am not easily gotten a
hold of via email because I am not at my
desk often, but that is really nice going through the
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clinic doing checks, making sure the staff has everything that
they need or if any questions need to be answered,
or helping with cleaning or dishes, taking down trash, really
really just everything under the sun.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
But we do get wonderful emails from Katie saying, hey,
you know, this is a really cool thing that's happened
at the rehabilitation center today. Here are some great you
know videos or descriptions of you know, ducklings that brought
got brought in or tricolored bat or whatever. So you
never know when you get an email from Katie what
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it's going to be. But it's going to be an adventure.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Yeah, that is amazing. So you see, just on daily basis,
it could be it could be anything.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Yeah, it could be anything. You never know what's going
to come through our door. In our summer season, which
is our busy season, baby season, we on average get
about thirty five to forty patients a day.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
And then it severely rolls back in the winter months.
You know, animals aren't reproducing in the same way, so
babies aren't, you know, kind of bumbling around. So our
patient intake drastically decreases, but then picks right back up
again come March April.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Baby season.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Yeah, baby season essentially.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Tell us about some of your more unique patients.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Yeah, so We have gotten a few unique ones this
year in comparison to other years. We got a northern
longyard bat in earlier this season, which are yeah, no, yeah,
what is that? It is an endangered bat species that
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we have here in PA. They're incredibly rare. We don't
we don't see them often, to say the least. But
we were able to rehabilitate him and get him back out.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
How how do you how did it come to the.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
A member of the public brought the Northern longyard bat
in founded on the sidewalk, I believe, which was that case.
It was injured, just down essentially and dehydrated and a
little bit emaciated. So just having a hard time.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
When you said down, I was like, I think depressed.
You don't know what it's like to be that. That's
so depressed. I need I need some psychological goal ahead.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
No, just just down in the sense that grounded essentially,
So that can be caused for concern when you're a
flying mammal.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
What else? What other?
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Right now, we do have our very first in almost
a decade, an American beaver. She is about five months old,
and she do name these these things we don't we
don't name them. We want to discourage it to because
they're not pets. You know, our goal is to keep
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our wildlife wild, so we do want to be able
to put them back out, and by naming them, it
just encourages us as humans when we are caring for
them and you know, meeting their animal husbandry needs to
want to interact with them in a way that we would.
Our dogs are cats, but they're not our dogs or cats.
They're wildlife. They they don't really want anything to do
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with us, and it causes more stress, so we just
avoid names.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Okay, this unnamed beaver, how did it get to the
wildlife for you? So?
Speaker 3 (13:04):
She was brought in after having some type of traumatic
event at a park Riverbank Park in Greenville. She was
brought in by the Pennsylvania Fish and Boat Commission and
it was presumed that she may have gotten into some
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type of altercation with an off leash dog, but not
entirely sure exactly what happened. They didn't see exactly what happened,
but she was found close to her lodge injured, so
her unfortunately, her left eye is not viable anymore. It
got injured from whatever event happened and does need to
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be removed as.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
So you do the operations, Yeah, we do.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
We have a licensed wildlife vet on staff that does
also work on the domestic side as well. She's all
she's just an impressive woman handling all sorts of animals.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Yeah, you think a human doctors. You have a you know,
a doctor, a heart doctor, you have a foot doctor.
But a veterinarian they do everything.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Yeah, she she really does everything. So uh, not just
dogs and cats, but she everything we throw at her.
She's been fantastic. So she is waiting until the beaver
is a bit more stable. So right now she is
recovering from an intense concussion. She's not out of the
woods yet, but we're hopeful that once she is stable
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enough to have surgery.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
She will be fairly recent though, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Fairly recent. She came in in very early October.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
It's it's kind of a unique situation to get a beaver.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Yeah, it is a very unique situation. I have been
with our facility for quite some time and we have
never gotten in a young beaver kit.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Because I have a question about beavers, and maybe Michelle
you can chime in as well. I don't know how
do beavers know how to build a damn. Do they
learn from their parents or is that something instinctual? Both?
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Actually so. They are incredibly social animals and have a family,
a very intense family dynamic, so they do stay with
their parents for a few years. Unlike squirrels or other
animals in the rodent family that you would find in
your backyard, beavers actually stay with their parents for about
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two years, and it also has been documented documented that
some of the young females have actually been seen to
stay with their parents for over three years before they're
ready to move on and be on their own. So
they learn everything from their parents, which does make it
tricky being in captivity with the goal to release for
a young beaver. Kit Adults are a little bit easier to,
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depending of course on their ailments whatever they're coming in for,
but to be able to put back out. But babies,
since they were so heavily on their parents for so long,
they end up being in captivity for a bit longer.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
It's fascinating. I didn't know you knew the answer. You
knew it, rhino, I did. What other kind of unique
animals do you get?
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Oh? So we did. Also in this past summer season
have a paragon falcon. They were we were able she
had lead poisoning. She came in with lead poisoning, but
after a round of kullation treatments, she was cleared and
able to be re released, so we worked with the
Pennsylvania Game Commission to get her back to her site.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
We're talking to Katie Cafollis, director of wildlife Rehabilitation with
the Humane Animal Rescue of Pittsburgh. What is the most
common animal that you get?
Speaker 3 (16:47):
It does change depending on the season, but just depending
on the year, I mean, but typically eastern cottontails are
our number one patient. We do on average about twelve
hundred of them a year's lot. It is a lot
when when our average intake is for four thousand and
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forty two hundred, that's a significant number of patients. So
those are probably typically.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Our You get a lot of squirrels, we do.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
We get a lot of squirrels all for variety of
species that we have here in PA, which are red squirrels,
of Southern flying squirrels, fox squirrels, and eastern grays.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
All right, kind of give us rundown of if somebody
has a he finds an animal that is sick or
it's down as you say, what do you recommend? What's
the process.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Oh, so when they find an animal that they think
that does need human intervention, they certainly should call us.
But if it is very obvious that they need to
be brought in, like you're seeing some blood or wounds,
or the animal just like can't get away. Being able
to catch an animal is usually an indie cater that
something is wrong. You shouldn't just be able to go
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out and catch a squirrel, not really. They're really agile.
It's like catching air, so that my dog tries every day,
but not very successful. Yeah, because they're very agile. So
if you can catch them, there's usually something going on.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
I think it would be funny if he ever did.
I don't know what he would do. He'd be like,
what one? I don't even want to do with it?
Speaker 3 (18:25):
I'm sorry, oh no, But usually that's a good indicator.
But we do advise people to keep them in a warm, dark,
quiet environment if you don't have a carrier, even like
a shoe box, something along those lines, and refrain from
offering them any food. I know that that sounds it
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just feels like it goes against everything in our nature.
We want to be able to immediately offer food, comfort,
the whole nine yards. But there really isn't a ton
of commercially available products, formulas for babies, things of that
capacity that are available to members of the public. And
by offering them let's say, offering an Eastern cottontail cow's milk,
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you know, I don't drink cow's milk, not really ideal
for them, and it actually can cause more damage internally
than actually be of help. So we usually advise people
just to put them in a box, put them in
a dark, quiet space until you can get them into
our facility.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Do you ever see people trying to bring an animal
to the adoption centers? Is? Can you do that?
Speaker 3 (19:32):
We not, necessarily know. We do advise people to bring
them directly to us.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Where are you located.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
We're in Verona, Okay, so not too far from our
east side location.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Mishell, do you get people who are trying to bring in.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
We really you know, people may call and we really
just say, you know, it is best to go directly
to the Wildlife Center because you know they are best
equipped to handle those cases. So and again, as we
talked earlier about all of this information is on our website.
They have a wonderful helpline at the Wildlife Center as well.
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The folks that answer the phone are very informative, very helpful,
and can again assess the situation very quickly, and.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
I will say people are typically pretty responsive to it
is a biosecurity risk. You know, you wouldn't want an animal,
you know, a sick fox for instance, to be brought
into one of our domestic shelters where potentially there could
be some cross contamination between them and canines felids in
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the domestic side of things. So trying to keep risk
down as much as possible is always ideal, but people
are usually pretty great about once they hear that bringing
the animal directly up to us.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
As humans, we are so captivated by wildlife animals. How
can people help?
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Yeah, so we do. There's plenty of ways for you
to help out your local ecosystem, both on your own
but also within you know how, our organization and our
mission so with us, we are always looking for volunteers
to help with everything from animal husbandry to dishes, laundry.
We have other options as well of joining our release
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team and other exciting things that when you're a volunteer
you can help us within our mission to get wildlife
back out and help our local ecosystem. We also accept
donations as well. We have wish lists online of things
that we use constantly, very common products like don dish, soap,
and baby blankets, but a variety of nuts and other
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item seeds, the whole nine yards. So we're always looking
for donations in that capacity.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Are there any nuts that you want to avoid giving
to the.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Yes, we do avoid black walnuts because there could be
a fungus. Typically they do carry some funguses that can
be harmful to wildlife. So because we're in captivity and
we can monitor what we're giving our patients, we just
avoid them. So not every black walnut has a detrimental
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fungus inside, but we just like to avoid risk at
all costs. But that is finding products outside too is
also a great way. This is a to help our mission.
Right now with the season, the fall season, there seems
to be a plethora of acorns this time of year,
especially right now this year, there seems to be a
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really big boom and so we are asking if individuals, Yeah,
we go through about one thousand pounds of nuts a year,
give or take. Usually usually a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
But where you get the nuts? Do you do? You
have people donate them. It's not like you go to
the walnuts section of Walmart and bring them in.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
So we do get a lot of donations of nuts,
both from our wish list, but also this time of year,
people doing some general yard clean up and bringing us
their yard waste, which is essentially acorns, leaves, just dried branches,
things of that capacity that nothing treated with pesticides, of course,
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but a lot of it is donated. I would say
at least half of our our nut suppli is donated.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Your volunteers are nuts, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
For bringing us nuts.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
So speaking of volunteers, what are some of the things
that as a volunteer, what are some of the things
that they do?
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Oh? Yeah, they help us with everything from baby care,
handling our baby bird timers, to hand feeding squirrels and
groundhogs and skunks the whole nine yards, to cleaning cages,
diet prep, diet distribution, changing over cages so once patients
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have been released or been able to be moved outside,
disinfecting those enclosures to then repair them. Handle a skunk
very carefully. We do have proper techniques so that you
don't essentially get sprayed. But the adults have an understanding
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that they know that their supply isn't unlimited, it does
need to be essentially refilled once they use it, so
they only use it when they're feeling absolutely threatened. So
if you do take proper techniques to keep yourself a
safe distance and help them feel safe.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
You have a crazy job, right.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
I think of it as exciting, but also certainly definitely
a little bit wild.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Like baby porcupines or something like that.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
We have had one baby porcupine come through. They are
rare to see, just like this American beaver kit that
we have. They are rare to see. But there are
certain again techniques that we use to handle the more
prickly kids.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
But you mentioned deer, so there's there's a limit as
far as the size of an animal.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Yes, so specifically we do not. No one in the
state of Pennsylvania rehabilitates adult deer, but we are legally
allowed to rehabilitate fawn if you have the proper permits
and the proper facility for it. Our location, we're in Verona.
We sit on about sixteen seventeen acres of land and
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it's not really conducive to rehabilitating deer. So we that
is one of the speed the one of the three
groups essentially of species, we do not accept what are
the other So we also do not accept bear. That
makes for the very obvious reason, no need to be
reh aabilitating such a large carnivore in the middle of
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residential Verona. There is a rehabilitation center in Pennsylvania that
does rehab bear, and they're out in the Poconos in
a very rural environment. So typically when there are bear
from across the state, they get transferred to to Pocono's
rehabilitation center. And then we also do not accept venomous snakes.
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We aren't licensed for them. But obviously, again the very obvious, do.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
You get like non venomous snakes?
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Yes, we do get non venomous snakes. We actually have
a black rat snake in our care right now that
we're gonna have to overwinter because she's making good strides
in recovery. But by the time she makes a full recovery,
the ground will be too cold for her too.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
For the adoption centers, do you get people get snakes?
Speaker 2 (26:48):
We will get some reptile small reptiles.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
I see. That makes no sense to me when there's
so many furry options that you could choose from. But
you know, to each his own, I.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Guess they're all important. You know, they're all crucial to
the system.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Talking to the Humane Animal Rescue of Pittsburgh, we're talking
about the Wildlife Rehabilitation Center with Katie Cafalis. We only
have a few minutes left, so I've got rapid fire questions. Okay,
all right, what do you do if you find a
wild animal? Some of the finds a wild animal? What
do you suggest?
Speaker 3 (27:15):
We always suggest for people to give us a call first,
just to assess the situation. If that's not an option
for you, making sure that you're keeping yourself safe and
the animal safe you certainly we don't want anyone getting
bit by anything ABSOLU.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Can a staff member pick up an animal?
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Unfortunately not. We are not staffed in that way to
be able to go out to sites to pick up animals,
So we do rely on members of the public and
other entities to bring us the patients.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Can I visit the animal or call to get an
update on an animal that I may have found.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
We don't allow anyone to come and visit any of
the patients because again, we want to keep them wild.
You know, they're not on display and Harrison to you know,
go into a zoological setting. But we do give updates.
Our helpline coordinator is awesome and he does give updates electronically.
We do try to keep our phone lines open for
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emergency situations because you never know what's on the other
end of that line. But we do offer email updates.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
I found a wild animal? Can I keep it?
Speaker 3 (28:21):
No? No? Please? Please know we again, you know we
want to keep them wild. One, it's not it's not
legal to just go out and find a wild animal
and decide to keep it as a pet. And too,
they don't make good pets. They don't. They don't want
to be indoors. They want to be outside.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
And finally, if somebody is interested in helping out the
Wildlife Rehab Center, what do you recommend?
Speaker 3 (28:48):
So go into our website and seeing what method essentially
you're looking to help with, whether it's applying to be
a volunteer, making a donation online, or bringing in some
yard waste.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Very good? All right? What's the number to call if
somebody will finds an animal? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Four one two, three four five seventy three hundred extension
five hundred.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Katie cafoll Us, director of Wildlife for a rehabilitation of
the Humane Animal Rescue of Pittsburgh, stop at. Michelle Friendier,
director of Marketing. It's good to see you both, and
next time you do not have to look as nice
as you do. I'm flattered, but thank you, Michelle. I
really appreciate it. Katie was very nice.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Met Yeah, thank you so much for having me and.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Your website again a Humaneanimal Rescue dot org.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Very good. All right. If you have any comments, concerns,
or an idea for a future program, please email us
from this radio station's website. I'm Johnny heart Well, thank
you so much for listening.
And welcome in. This is a public affairs program shedding
the light on the interest, issues and concerns of the
Greater Pittsburgh area. Good morning, My name is Johnny hart Well.
Today's topic is Humane Animal Rescue with Pittsburgh or HARP.
As one of the largest animal welfare organizations in Pennsylvania,
HARP has been committed to the welfare of animals, pet owners,
and the Greater Pittsburgh community for over one hundred and
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fifty years. With two domestic animal shelters and a wildlife
rehabilitation center, HARP is a trusted and caring resource, helping
more than twenty six thousand animals each and every year,
which is amazing. And in studio, old friend, Michelle Frenier,
the director of marketing, thank you for coming in. Good disease.
You look fabulous by the well, Thank you. You do
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not have to get dressed up for Sunday morning, but
you look absolutely stuff.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Thank you again, It's always good to see you. Good
and old friend.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Now, I know we're going to be talking a lot
about the wildlife for rehab, but let's talk about the
shelters that we're getting into the winter season. Does that
increase the sensus of the of the shelters. What's what's
going on?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yeah, overall, I think again, shelters across the country are
seeing an increase in our capacities and our senses. You know,
more and more animals are in our shelters. They may
be surrendered, you know, whether folks are having difficulties caring
for pets. So we are seeing, you know, that we
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have more animals that we're caring for. And what HARP
is hoping to do is in addition to trying to
find those animals homes, is to keeping trying doing our
best to keep animals in homes that they already are.
So we have offer a lot of pet supportive services.
So if someone is facing some difficulties financially feeding their
pet or providing them with veterinary care, HARP can help.
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We have a pet food pantry, we have other items
dog beds, crates, collars, those kind of things that we
can help people in need. We all so offer two
low cost veterinary clinics so that folks, you know, as
we know, the cost of care you know, is increasing,
but you know, through our two domestic shelters, folks can
come there. They don't have to have adopted animals from
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us to use those services. So all of those well
services minor surgeries so that they can be handled at
our clinics. And we also have a behavior training so
if somebody is facing some challenges in that area, so
we have a pet helpline, so folks or you know,
not sure what to do, we encourage them to reach out.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
All right, So if somebody needs help or you know,
the food or you know, behavioral things like that, what
do you recommend you go to the website, call you
what do you want got our.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Website or call our pet helpline. You know, our website
is Humane Animal Rescue dot org and if you look
under the resources page, all of that information is there.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
At Christmas time, do you get a lot of people
who are looking to adopt a pet for Christmas? Or
is it the other way around, Well.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
We would discourage folks to kind of do that, you know,
you know, puppy in a box kind of thing, because
adding a furry friend to your family is really, you know,
something that you need to prepare for and think about,
and you certainly don't want to surprise you know, a grandchild,
you know, again, you want it to be a planned
you know, making sure that you're ready, making sure that
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there are other pets in the home.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
This is a toy from Walmart, right, This is a
commitment exactly, decades of committment.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
And puppies and kittens are certainly cute and cudy and
we love them, but they are like babies. So again
it is you know, all those trainings and sleepless nights
and high energy. So again, somebody, if they're maybe looking
to do that, we would encourage them to, you know, again,
come visit, make you know, not make it a surprise,
and again really think about what's best for their family.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
You always want to encourage adoptions, but you have to
do it in a smart, smart way exactly. Okay, I'm
glad you said that because I feel the same way Christmas.
You know, you're surprised a kid. They may be interested
for a week, two weeks, and that is a serious
commitment exactly.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
And again it's like baby proofing a home. You have
to prepare for an animal. You know, what are they
going to get at? What could they get into that
could be seriously dangerous or again, you know you have
to teach them to to you know, how to walk
on a leash ure you know where their food is.
How to you know, use the outside facility. You want
it to be a planned event.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Well, I've had my dog for nine years. He's still
trying to treat it. Takes work on both sides. Y Okay. Now,
the reason why we're here this morning is we want
to talk about the humane animal rescue of Pittsburgh's Wildlife
Rehabilitation Center. CASE takes care of four thousand six injured
in an abandoned wildlife each and every year. And joining
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me is Katie Cafalis, the director of Wildlife Rea Abilitary.
Really like boy, it's really hard for me to say
wildlife rehabilitation. So good morning, It's nice to meet you, Katie.
How are you good?
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Good, I'm really happy to be here. Thank you, look nice.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
To Michelle went overboard. I don't want to press it
up for me. I mean, it's just the radio guy.
So this is our first time kind of doing this
radio kind of thing here.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Yeah, yes, for me, this is my first time.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Well, let's start talk about the history of the Wildlife
Free here.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Yeah. So, our facility has been open since nineteen ninety
seven and we have been slowly increasing our numbers ever
since we rehabilitate with the goal of re release all
native PA wildlife.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Okay, yeah, it's not like dogs, cats we're talking about.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Yeah, we're talking about great horned owls and raccoons and beavers,
the whole nine yards.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
And this is kind of unique. This is a unique
situation in Pennsylvania. This is about the only rehab center
here in western PA. Right.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Yeah, so we are one of the larger wildlife rehabilitation
centers in the state, and on this side of the
state we are the largest. There really isn't too many
rehab centers in the state of Pennsylvania, so we all
do kind of help each other out, but we are
the biggest in southwestern PA.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Let me ask you, so, where do you find these animals?
Do people bring them to you? Do you go out
and get them? And what's the process of if you
see an injured animal? How do you what do you
need people to do?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Yeah, so we always advise people to give us a
ring if they see something that they think needs human
intervention in some capacity. So not everything that you may
see on the outside is actually a call for human intervention.
We get a lot of times baby napping where people
assume that babies are orphaned and they might not be.
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So we we want people to give us a call
to help kind of investigate if they actually need to
be brought in or not.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
So give us some examples.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Ah, So some examples, so Eastern Cottontails, I would say,
are maybe our number one biggest baby nappers. So the
mother only comes to the nest twice a day. She
does this for her baby's protection and from predators. But
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oftentimes people will see them alone in the yard and
think that their orphaned, when really mom is hanging out
on the outskirts, watching and making sure that she's protecting
her babies, but keeping a distance. So we have techniques
that we ask people to do to essentially ensure that
mom isn't coming back, because certainly if mom isn't coming back,
we want to make sure that those babies get brought in.
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But it does take some investigating to be sure without
any obvious signs such as very physical injuries, bleeding things
of that capacity.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
What size animals are you able to rehabilitate?
Speaker 3 (08:06):
We rehabilitate everything from small deer mice to coyotes.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
How about deer, So.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
We don't actually accept white tailed deer, so our facility
just isn't equipped to handle that large of an animal.
There are other licensed rehabilitators in the state that do
rehab fawn and do very well, so we usually ask
individuals that can confirm that fawn have been abandoned to
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reach out to one of those rehabilitators.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
What my role.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I am the director of wildlife Rehab for HARP and
I do everything from exams, cleaning dishes to coming here
and trying to educate. Our staff is about thirteen year round,
and then we do get to bring on a few
seasonal animal care individuals to help us, but everything else
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is all volunteer and intern based, which is really wonderful.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
What is Katie's typical day.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
That's a hard question. There really isn't, but that is
a part of why I do love my job. It's
not every day that I'm sitting down at a desk.
Michelle can probably attest I am not easily gotten a
hold of via email because I am not at my
desk often, but that is really nice going through the
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clinic doing checks, making sure the staff has everything that
they need or if any questions need to be answered,
or helping with cleaning or dishes, taking down trash, really
really just everything under the sun.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
But we do get wonderful emails from Katie saying, hey,
you know, this is a really cool thing that's happened
at the rehabilitation center today. Here are some great you
know videos or descriptions of you know, ducklings that brought
got brought in or tricolored bat or whatever. So you
never know when you get an email from Katie what
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it's going to be. But it's going to be an adventure.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Yeah, that is amazing. So you see, just on daily basis,
it could be it could be anything.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Yeah, it could be anything. You never know what's going
to come through our door. In our summer season, which
is our busy season, baby season, we on average get
about thirty five to forty patients a day.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
And then it severely rolls back in the winter months.
You know, animals aren't reproducing in the same way, so
babies aren't, you know, kind of bumbling around. So our
patient intake drastically decreases, but then picks right back up
again come March April.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Baby season.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Yeah, baby season essentially.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Tell us about some of your more unique patients.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Yeah, so We have gotten a few unique ones this
year in comparison to other years. We got a northern
longyard bat in earlier this season, which are yeah, no, yeah,
what is that? It is an endangered bat species that
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we have here in PA. They're incredibly rare. We don't
we don't see them often, to say the least. But
we were able to rehabilitate him and get him back out.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
How how do you how did it come to the.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
A member of the public brought the Northern longyard bat
in founded on the sidewalk, I believe, which was that case.
It was injured, just down essentially and dehydrated and a
little bit emaciated. So just having a hard time.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
When you said down, I was like, I think depressed.
You don't know what it's like to be that. That's
so depressed. I need I need some psychological goal ahead.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
No, just just down in the sense that grounded essentially,
So that can be caused for concern when you're a
flying mammal.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
What else? What other?
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Right now, we do have our very first in almost
a decade, an American beaver. She is about five months old,
and she do name these these things we don't we
don't name them. We want to discourage it to because
they're not pets. You know, our goal is to keep
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our wildlife wild, so we do want to be able
to put them back out, and by naming them, it
just encourages us as humans when we are caring for
them and you know, meeting their animal husbandry needs to
want to interact with them in a way that we would.
Our dogs are cats, but they're not our dogs or cats.
They're wildlife. They they don't really want anything to do
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with us, and it causes more stress, so we just
avoid names.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Okay, this unnamed beaver, how did it get to the
wildlife for you? So?
Speaker 3 (13:04):
She was brought in after having some type of traumatic
event at a park Riverbank Park in Greenville. She was
brought in by the Pennsylvania Fish and Boat Commission and
it was presumed that she may have gotten into some
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type of altercation with an off leash dog, but not
entirely sure exactly what happened. They didn't see exactly what happened,
but she was found close to her lodge injured, so
her unfortunately, her left eye is not viable anymore. It
got injured from whatever event happened and does need to
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be removed as.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
So you do the operations, Yeah, we do.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
We have a licensed wildlife vet on staff that does
also work on the domestic side as well. She's all
she's just an impressive woman handling all sorts of animals.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Yeah, you think a human doctors. You have a you know,
a doctor, a heart doctor, you have a foot doctor.
But a veterinarian they do everything.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Yeah, she she really does everything. So uh, not just
dogs and cats, but she everything we throw at her.
She's been fantastic. So she is waiting until the beaver
is a bit more stable. So right now she is
recovering from an intense concussion. She's not out of the
woods yet, but we're hopeful that once she is stable
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enough to have surgery.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
She will be fairly recent though, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Fairly recent. She came in in very early October.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
It's it's kind of a unique situation to get a beaver.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Yeah, it is a very unique situation. I have been
with our facility for quite some time and we have
never gotten in a young beaver kit.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Because I have a question about beavers, and maybe Michelle
you can chime in as well. I don't know how
do beavers know how to build a damn. Do they
learn from their parents or is that something instinctual? Both?
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Actually so. They are incredibly social animals and have a family,
a very intense family dynamic, so they do stay with
their parents for a few years. Unlike squirrels or other
animals in the rodent family that you would find in
your backyard, beavers actually stay with their parents for about
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two years, and it also has been documented documented that
some of the young females have actually been seen to
stay with their parents for over three years before they're
ready to move on and be on their own. So
they learn everything from their parents, which does make it
tricky being in captivity with the goal to release for
a young beaver. Kit Adults are a little bit easier to,
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depending of course on their ailments whatever they're coming in for,
but to be able to put back out. But babies,
since they were so heavily on their parents for so long,
they end up being in captivity for a bit longer.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
It's fascinating. I didn't know you knew the answer. You
knew it, rhino, I did. What other kind of unique
animals do you get?
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Oh? So we did. Also in this past summer season
have a paragon falcon. They were we were able she
had lead poisoning. She came in with lead poisoning, but
after a round of kullation treatments, she was cleared and
able to be re released, so we worked with the
Pennsylvania Game Commission to get her back to her site.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
We're talking to Katie Cafollis, director of wildlife Rehabilitation with
the Humane Animal Rescue of Pittsburgh. What is the most
common animal that you get?
Speaker 3 (16:47):
It does change depending on the season, but just depending
on the year, I mean, but typically eastern cottontails are
our number one patient. We do on average about twelve
hundred of them a year's lot. It is a lot
when when our average intake is for four thousand and
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forty two hundred, that's a significant number of patients. So
those are probably typically.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Our You get a lot of squirrels, we do.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
We get a lot of squirrels all for variety of
species that we have here in PA, which are red squirrels,
of Southern flying squirrels, fox squirrels, and eastern grays.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
All right, kind of give us rundown of if somebody
has a he finds an animal that is sick or
it's down as you say, what do you recommend? What's
the process.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Oh, so when they find an animal that they think
that does need human intervention, they certainly should call us.
But if it is very obvious that they need to
be brought in, like you're seeing some blood or wounds,
or the animal just like can't get away. Being able
to catch an animal is usually an indie cater that
something is wrong. You shouldn't just be able to go
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out and catch a squirrel, not really. They're really agile.
It's like catching air, so that my dog tries every day,
but not very successful. Yeah, because they're very agile. So
if you can catch them, there's usually something going on.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
I think it would be funny if he ever did.
I don't know what he would do. He'd be like,
what one? I don't even want to do with it?
Speaker 3 (18:25):
I'm sorry, oh no, But usually that's a good indicator.
But we do advise people to keep them in a warm, dark,
quiet environment if you don't have a carrier, even like
a shoe box, something along those lines, and refrain from
offering them any food. I know that that sounds it
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just feels like it goes against everything in our nature.
We want to be able to immediately offer food, comfort,
the whole nine yards. But there really isn't a ton
of commercially available products, formulas for babies, things of that
capacity that are available to members of the public. And
by offering them let's say, offering an Eastern cottontail cow's milk,
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you know, I don't drink cow's milk, not really ideal
for them, and it actually can cause more damage internally
than actually be of help. So we usually advise people
just to put them in a box, put them in
a dark, quiet space until you can get them into
our facility.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Do you ever see people trying to bring an animal
to the adoption centers? Is? Can you do that?
Speaker 3 (19:32):
We not, necessarily know. We do advise people to bring
them directly to us.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Where are you located.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
We're in Verona, Okay, so not too far from our
east side location.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Mishell, do you get people who are trying to bring in.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
We really you know, people may call and we really
just say, you know, it is best to go directly
to the Wildlife Center because you know they are best
equipped to handle those cases. So and again, as we
talked earlier about all of this information is on our website.
They have a wonderful helpline at the Wildlife Center as well.
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The folks that answer the phone are very informative, very helpful,
and can again assess the situation very quickly, and.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
I will say people are typically pretty responsive to it
is a biosecurity risk. You know, you wouldn't want an animal,
you know, a sick fox for instance, to be brought
into one of our domestic shelters where potentially there could
be some cross contamination between them and canines felids in
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the domestic side of things. So trying to keep risk
down as much as possible is always ideal, but people
are usually pretty great about once they hear that bringing
the animal directly up to us.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
As humans, we are so captivated by wildlife animals. How
can people help?
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Yeah, so we do. There's plenty of ways for you
to help out your local ecosystem, both on your own
but also within you know how, our organization and our
mission so with us, we are always looking for volunteers
to help with everything from animal husbandry to dishes, laundry.
We have other options as well of joining our release
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team and other exciting things that when you're a volunteer
you can help us within our mission to get wildlife
back out and help our local ecosystem. We also accept
donations as well. We have wish lists online of things
that we use constantly, very common products like don dish, soap,
and baby blankets, but a variety of nuts and other
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item seeds, the whole nine yards. So we're always looking
for donations in that capacity.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Are there any nuts that you want to avoid giving
to the.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Yes, we do avoid black walnuts because there could be
a fungus. Typically they do carry some funguses that can
be harmful to wildlife. So because we're in captivity and
we can monitor what we're giving our patients, we just
avoid them. So not every black walnut has a detrimental
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fungus inside, but we just like to avoid risk at
all costs. But that is finding products outside too is
also a great way. This is a to help our mission.
Right now with the season, the fall season, there seems
to be a plethora of acorns this time of year,
especially right now this year, there seems to be a
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really big boom and so we are asking if individuals, Yeah,
we go through about one thousand pounds of nuts a year,
give or take. Usually usually a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
But where you get the nuts? Do you do? You
have people donate them. It's not like you go to
the walnuts section of Walmart and bring them in.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
So we do get a lot of donations of nuts,
both from our wish list, but also this time of year,
people doing some general yard clean up and bringing us
their yard waste, which is essentially acorns, leaves, just dried branches,
things of that capacity that nothing treated with pesticides, of course,
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but a lot of it is donated. I would say
at least half of our our nut suppli is donated.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Your volunteers are nuts, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
For bringing us nuts.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
So speaking of volunteers, what are some of the things
that as a volunteer, what are some of the things
that they do?
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Oh? Yeah, they help us with everything from baby care,
handling our baby bird timers, to hand feeding squirrels and
groundhogs and skunks the whole nine yards, to cleaning cages,
diet prep, diet distribution, changing over cages so once patients
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have been released or been able to be moved outside,
disinfecting those enclosures to then repair them. Handle a skunk
very carefully. We do have proper techniques so that you
don't essentially get sprayed. But the adults have an understanding
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that they know that their supply isn't unlimited, it does
need to be essentially refilled once they use it, so
they only use it when they're feeling absolutely threatened. So
if you do take proper techniques to keep yourself a
safe distance and help them feel safe.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
You have a crazy job, right.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
I think of it as exciting, but also certainly definitely
a little bit wild.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Like baby porcupines or something like that.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
We have had one baby porcupine come through. They are
rare to see, just like this American beaver kit that
we have. They are rare to see. But there are
certain again techniques that we use to handle the more
prickly kids.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
But you mentioned deer, so there's there's a limit as
far as the size of an animal.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Yes, so specifically we do not. No one in the
state of Pennsylvania rehabilitates adult deer, but we are legally
allowed to rehabilitate fawn if you have the proper permits
and the proper facility for it. Our location, we're in Verona.
We sit on about sixteen seventeen acres of land and
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it's not really conducive to rehabilitating deer. So we that
is one of the speed the one of the three
groups essentially of species, we do not accept what are
the other So we also do not accept bear. That
makes for the very obvious reason, no need to be
reh aabilitating such a large carnivore in the middle of
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residential Verona. There is a rehabilitation center in Pennsylvania that
does rehab bear, and they're out in the Poconos in
a very rural environment. So typically when there are bear
from across the state, they get transferred to to Pocono's
rehabilitation center. And then we also do not accept venomous snakes.
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We aren't licensed for them. But obviously, again the very obvious, do.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
You get like non venomous snakes?
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Yes, we do get non venomous snakes. We actually have
a black rat snake in our care right now that
we're gonna have to overwinter because she's making good strides
in recovery. But by the time she makes a full recovery,
the ground will be too cold for her too.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
For the adoption centers, do you get people get snakes?
Speaker 2 (26:48):
We will get some reptile small reptiles.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
I see. That makes no sense to me when there's
so many furry options that you could choose from. But
you know, to each his own, I.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Guess they're all important. You know, they're all crucial to
the system.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Talking to the Humane Animal Rescue of Pittsburgh, we're talking
about the Wildlife Rehabilitation Center with Katie Cafalis. We only
have a few minutes left, so I've got rapid fire questions. Okay,
all right, what do you do if you find a
wild animal? Some of the finds a wild animal? What
do you suggest?
Speaker 3 (27:15):
We always suggest for people to give us a call first,
just to assess the situation. If that's not an option
for you, making sure that you're keeping yourself safe and
the animal safe you certainly we don't want anyone getting
bit by anything ABSOLU.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Can a staff member pick up an animal?
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Unfortunately not. We are not staffed in that way to
be able to go out to sites to pick up animals,
So we do rely on members of the public and
other entities to bring us the patients.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Can I visit the animal or call to get an
update on an animal that I may have found.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
We don't allow anyone to come and visit any of
the patients because again, we want to keep them wild.
You know, they're not on display and Harrison to you know,
go into a zoological setting. But we do give updates.
Our helpline coordinator is awesome and he does give updates electronically.
We do try to keep our phone lines open for
(28:12):
emergency situations because you never know what's on the other
end of that line. But we do offer email updates.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
I found a wild animal? Can I keep it?
Speaker 3 (28:21):
No? No? Please? Please know we again, you know we
want to keep them wild. One, it's not it's not
legal to just go out and find a wild animal
and decide to keep it as a pet. And too,
they don't make good pets. They don't. They don't want
to be indoors. They want to be outside.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
And finally, if somebody is interested in helping out the
Wildlife Rehab Center, what do you recommend?
Speaker 3 (28:48):
So go into our website and seeing what method essentially
you're looking to help with, whether it's applying to be
a volunteer, making a donation online, or bringing in some
yard waste.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Very good? All right? What's the number to call if
somebody will finds an animal? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Four one two, three four five seventy three hundred extension
five hundred.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Katie cafoll Us, director of Wildlife for a rehabilitation of
the Humane Animal Rescue of Pittsburgh, stop at. Michelle Friendier,
director of Marketing. It's good to see you both, and
next time you do not have to look as nice
as you do. I'm flattered, but thank you, Michelle. I
really appreciate it. Katie was very nice.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Met Yeah, thank you so much for having me and.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Your website again a Humaneanimal Rescue dot org.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Very good. All right. If you have any comments, concerns,
or an idea for a future program, please email us
from this radio station's website. I'm Johnny heart Well, thank
you so much for listening.
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