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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome in. This is a public affairs program shedding the
light on the interest, issues and concerns of the greater
Pittsburgh area. Good morning. My name is Johnny Hartwell, your host,
and today we have the ladies from pan CAN a
pancake can which reminds me of the are you familiar
with the movie Mulin Rouge or the play you know
with a can can Can. Every time I say pancn
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my head immediately goes to Moulin. I apologize. But let's
introduce Tammy Hazlett, Media chair. Good morning, good to see
you the Nice to see you again. Emma Hupkins the
mission chair.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Yes, nice to.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Kathy Cronet the affiliate chair. We've got charing. We have
three chairs in the room. Good thing. We have chairs
for you to sit on. We can't fit any more
chairs in this room. All right, pan CAN tell us
what does pan CAN stand for? Pancreatic Cancer Action Network
And you have a Purple Strides event coming up in
less than three weeks, coming up on the twenty six US.
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All the information we need to know.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
The event will be happening on Saturday, April twenty sixth.
It would be held in this year. We're in Shanley
Plaza in Oakland, right across from the Cathedral of Learning.
The event village opens at nine am, the opening ceremonies
at ten am. The walk begins at ten thirty. And
we have we have a zero point eight mile route
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and also one and a half mile route, and if
anybody wants to make it any longer, they can loop it.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
We have a lot going where they go rogue and
they could just they could just walk off through Shenley Park.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
And but we have we have a Purple plays owned
for the kids. We have a survivor's tent where all
the survivors can congregate and catch up with each other
and talk. We have games, the parogis are coming the
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the Pirate parrot am I missing anything.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Well, it's just an eventage. Oh yeah, food. You're promoting
the organization and of course awareness of pancreatic cancer. And
I learned quite a bit when when we talked last
year at this time, because you know, obviously there are
so many, you know, different kinds of cancer, and and
pancreatic cancer is you know, among the it's in the
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top ten diagnosed cancers. It's number three, number.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Three in the in the death rates.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Oh yeah, yeah, so and and the problem, well, first
of all, who's more comfortable talking about the clinical stuff
like the pancreas. What does the pancreas do? Can you
tell us that? You know? Basically, it helps for digestion,
I just your food. It produces insulin. It also has hormones.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
It also produces hormones like when people lose part of
the panquish pancreas, they have to take like digestive enzymes,
like when they come back from a whibble surgery. I mean,
they're thankful to be here. But it's way off normal.
It's you know, as far as how your body functions.
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But it's a small organ tuck behind your stomach area
underneath like the gallbladder, and nobody ever thinks of it,
but boy it can cause And the.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Problem with pacriatic cancer is it's difficult to diagnose, yes,
because it's a smaller organ. It's tuck between the stomach
and the spine. It's not like breast cancer where you
might feel a lump. Yes, and so you know, and
once it's diagnosed, it gets It's very problematic.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Because of the fact that the symptoms that it causes
are so vague. They could be anything, So usually they
go down the road of digestive issues. Other than that,
early onset diabetics being diagnosed diabetic, when say, nobody in
your family's diabetic, usually that's that's a very early sign
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of pancreatic cancer. That's one of the signs my friend
who I lost the pancreatic cancer had she was diagnosed
diabetic in like twenty ten, and then by twenty twelve,
that whole summer she was complaining of back pain, but
they sent her to the hospital for a kidney stone,
which they didn't find. However, months later when she went
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jaundice and she was diagnosed, the doctor looked at her
scan from in May, and it's too and the tumor
was there, and she'd still be here if they would
have found it.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Then, Now, what is the And another thing with pancreatic cancer,
it's you know, obviously breast cancer is going to be
you know, scale more towards female. Pancreatic cancer it's slightly
more male, but it's almost fifty to fifty and so
it affects everybody. It's hard to diagnose. Now, are there
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certain things that you can do to help prevent pancreatic cancer. Like,
is diet important maybe you know having a family history?
Is that? Is that a factor as well? Yes?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Speak, yeah, so all of those that you mentioned. Smoking
is uh.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Well, smoking is you know, it causes all sorts of problems.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Smoking, weight problems, being over weight. Definitely, if there's a
family history of pancreatic cancer, we encourage people to get
genetic testing and a history of pancreatitis. And like Tammy mentioned,
diabetes is an early symptom for some pancreatic cancer patients.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Well and you, Tammy, you kind of touched on your
friend you you know, talked about some of the symptoms
and it was unfortunately too late. But are there some
sort of symptoms that may help people you know, listening
right now to you know, you know, if they maybe
if they in the future, if they have these kind
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of symptoms. What are some of the symptoms that you
might have, Like, you know, I know that sudden weight.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Loss, Yes, so sudden weight loss. A lot of people
report mid back pain as a sign that they wish
that they had gone to a doctor earlier about digestional
issues such as acid reflux, heartburn. That's a common symptom.
And then We also have seen people have jaundice as
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a sign that ends up and really sign that ends
up sending them to the doctor to get checked out.
Changes in stool just different digestional problems which again, like
Tammy touched on, they tend to be they how many
people get older and have some back problems are traditional.
If you so, yeah, it makes it hard to diagnose.
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But if something's new, something's out of sorts, we encourage
people definitely.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
See your I don't know about you, but I'm almost
addicted to chat GPT and I'm type in whatever pain
I have the pain? Does your you know you know, yeah,
have ovarian cancer. Well, I noticed all three of you
are wearing purple. First of all, you guys know this
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is radio. They can't see you, but I appreciate you
getting dressed up for me. Oh, let's go through each
of you and tell me why you've you've joined PANCAM
and why you want to fight pancreatic cancer. We'll start
with you.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Kathy.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
So, my husband was diagnosed in May of twenty ten.
He was forty three years old. He was in a
basketball league and he came home from basketball one night
and he couldn't stand up straight because his back pain
was so bad. So he went to his PCP, and
thankfully the PCP was very careful. He sent him for
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blood work, sent him for a CT scan, and they
found his tumor. He eventually had it, after chemo and radiation,
had it removed. He'll be celebrating fifteen years in May.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Good for him. What's his name, Dennis? Dennis? And so
Dennis was a healthy adult and probably wouldn't even even
fathom that, you know that he would be faced with
a fight against pancreatic Oh gosh no.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
And when when he went to the doctor and I diagno,
I like you. I googled the symptoms. The first thing
that popped up was pancreatic cancer. And everyone said to me, oh, no,
he's too young, he's too healthy, there's no family history,
it won't be pancreatic cancer. And then you walk into
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the doctor's office, they say you down and they say
you have pancreatic cancer. And you're just stunned. You don't
know anybody who has it, didn't know where the pancreas was,
didn't know what it did. Yeah, but you learn all
of those things because you have to.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Last year at this time, I was, I was, I was,
I'm being honest. I had no idea what the pancreas does,
what how pancreat cancer, how how prolific it is, and
and how difficult it is to treat, simply because the
warning signs are are usually too late. So Dennis was like, yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Absolutely, Yeah, he was very lucky.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
We've had a lot.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Of friends from family along the way who have been
diagnosed the you know a lot of times with the
back pain you're sent for PT people go, oh, we
need a new bed. I pulled, you know, I probably
pulled a muscle and its kidneys stone. Yeah, and it's
so misdiagnosed, and that's why the survival rate is only
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thirteen percent. Most people who are diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, unfortunately,
are dying within days, weeks, and for the fortunate ones,
it's months. Dennis is a very rare case. Fifteen years
is unheard of in pancreatic cancer.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
All right, Emma, what's your story.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
So my dad is diagnosed with pancreatic cancer in the
summer of twenty twenty two. He also had pretty mild symptoms,
just some digestional issues that spring, but it was getting
worse and worse, to the point where he was having
such bad stomach aches that I was making him difficult,
making it difficult to even go out with our family,
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go out to dinner, that kind of thing. And then
in July of twenty twenty two, he actually had a
heart attack followed very shortly by a stroke. And that's
one of the symptoms of pancreatic cancer that it can
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cause blood clotting issues. So he obviously went to the
er for those two episodes, and they found during scans
a lesion on his liver. Actually they didn't even find
it in the pancreas at first, and then after further
testing biopsies being taken, it was diagnosed as pancratic cancer. Unfortunately,
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that is a really common diagnosis that we see is
it spreads to the liver very often, and that's usually
what I mentioned earlier, causes the jaundice. And unfortunately, he
only lived for six months and he passed away in
January of twenty twenty three, just a couple weeks before
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his sixty second birthday day.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Was just still young, still very young, pretty young. Yeah,
I'm sorry for your loss.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Yeah, And what was his name?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Sean Shaan Hopkins, and now thinking back, we actually do
have a family history of pancreatic cancer. His father, my grandfather,
passed away in the eighties of pancratic cancer, very similar.
He was also in his early sixties and he had
a stroke. They diagnosed him with pancreatic cancer and he
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passed away within a couple of weeks after that. And
I even remember several years ago before my dad got sick,
I was at my PCP just for a general physical
and they were going over family history and I had
mentioned to them because they ask if you have any
history of cancer in your family. I had mentioned my
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grandfather had passed away from pancreatic cancer, and I remember
specifically that doctor making a remark like that's a pretty
bad one. You do not want that cancer. And I
remember that stuck out to me being I was like, well,
I hope I don't get that. And then fast forward
a couple of years and my dad ended up with it.
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So it's definitely something of a concern for me. I
have two sisters, and and the concerning part is because
there's so little research for pankretic cancer funding and so
little known about treatment options and the genes behind pancredic cancer.
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There is progress being made, but a lot is still unknown.
So my dad did have genetic testing done and he
didn't have any genes that are known yet for pink
credic cancer. But there's still so much work that needs
to be done in that field, because clearly there is
some type of family history with my grandfather.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Yeah, yeah, And and Tammy, tell me your story and
how did you get involved with pan can My.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Best friend Karen back in Ojesus well actually U in
two thousand and four, I drug her with my family
history of breast cancer. Three of my sisters all were
diagnosed with it. I lost my sister back in eighty
six when breast cancer's outlook was as bad as pancreat
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actives now, and so I harped and harped and drug
her to the doctor. She hadn't been to the doctor
since her last kid in nineteen eighty two. Well, it
ended up she had breast cancer. So it was kind
of a it to feel like you saved someone's life
because she had no intentions of Well, seven years later
she was diagnosed with pancratic cancer and she was gone
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in seven months. Never since nineteen eighty six when we
lost my sister to breast cancer. Had I seen anything
so aggressive and so horrible in my life? So after
after years of being involved with the advocating for breast cancer,
I know exactly what needs to be done. I showed
up at the picnic after Purple Stride and I said,
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sign me up. You need people in the fight, in
the army to make this change, because just for instance,
in twenty twenty five, approximately sixty seven, four hundred and
forty Americans will be diagnosed with pancrettic cancer. Fifty nine
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hundred and eighty will die.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
It's almost two hundred a day. And you know, with
breast cancer you have you know, mammograms, or you know
with colon rectal cancer you have colon oscopes. It's not
that simple. We know the pancreas. That's what we're lacking.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
That's what I think will get us over the hurdle
is if we can get something that diagnoses it earlier,
and we're getting closer with it. But this year has
really shot us in losing the funding, the government funding
for the pancrea.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
It's going to set back a lot of the research,
which ultimately is going to Ultimately we're going to lose
loved ones because of that, but we won't give up
the well good And it starts with the Purple Stride, Pittsburgh,
twenty twenty five. It's going to be on Saturday, April
twenty six. The event village opens up at nine o'clock
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at Chinley Plaza, which is near the Cathedral of Learning.
And then it it's a it's a twenty five mile
run now, just like a mile one point two miles. Yeah,
and you can go longer unless you want to go
rogue and go twenty five hours.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
If you are a way around Sheley Park, you want
to know that, you go for it. Just wear purple
and just it's right the Purple Army. Thank you for
sharing your stories and uh, you know and educating people
who are listening now about how aggressive pancreat cancer can be.
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Your friend Karen and you lost her how long ago? Okay,
so it's been over ten years and so you've joined
the you know, the pan can shortly after that? Yes,
and so tell us what has the Purple Stride when
you go to the event, what.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Kind what did what does it do for you? Oh,
it's a very moving event.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
I'm gonna cry because you see, over the years I
will say over the years I've been involved, it was
it had just went to six percent survivorate. We had
very few survivors at the at that Purple Stride that
my first one, and our numbers have gone up every year,
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which is awesome, totally awesome, And I can't wait till
we have a big crowd of survivors.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
We'll get there.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
But it's so nice to talk to the families, talk
to the people. Everybody gets to feel they're not alone,
You're not alone in this journey.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
And Kathy, you your your husband is one of those survivors.
And you mentioned it's only a thirteen percent success rate.
So what does the Purple Stride do for you?
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Oh, like Tammy said, our first Purple Stride for us
was a chance to see that people actually survive this disease.
You know that thirteen really scares the heck out of you.
But as my husband said, when he was diagnosed, it
was six percent, and he said, well that means that
there's a six percent chance that I'll live. And so
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you want to get out. If someone you loved is diagnosed,
please come, please see the survivors. Please see that people
do survive this disease, and the survivors are there to
support each other. It's pretty amazing, you know they have
There's so little known about pancreatic cancer. They all share
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their stories with each other. They help each other out
with their symptoms, their issue, their side effects from chemo
and radiation. You know, we're just all a big purple
family here to support each other. Even those that have
lost their loved ones like Emma, were there to support
them as well.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
So it's gone from six percent to thirteen percent, but
that still means over eighty percent are going to lose
that fight. And Emma, you've lost your father a couple
of years ago. How long have you been with pan Can?
Speaker 2 (19:28):
So? I joined pan Can while my dad was sick
in the fall of twenty twenty two. Kind of similar
to what Tammy mentioned. It's just nice to be in
a community where people understand what you're going through. So
many other cancers, like we talked about, such a higher
survival rate. It's really scary no matter what cancer you have,
but when you're looking at a survival rate of thirteen percent,
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it's very intimidating. And when I didn't know anybody else
who had been through something like that. Finding pan Can
as a community has just been so supportive and almost
therapeutic for me to be a part of. So I
reached out as soon as I could when my dad
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was diagnosed. I wanted to figure out if there was
anything I could do to make a difference. And I've
been volunteering since then.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Were you close with your father?
Speaker 2 (20:20):
I was close with my father, So it was what
was Sean like? He was very goofy, but.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
He was very He was a dad.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
He was a dad. He was a neuroscientist. He lived
in Syracuse, New York. That's where I grew up. He
did brain research on tumor brain tumors, and he was
one of those people who just made friends with everybody
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that he met.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
He was genuinely interested in everybody he met and never
thing he heard about. And he was the most proud
dad I think of of me and my sisters.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
And it was a girl dad.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
He was a girl dad for sure, And we look
back at videos he would he would never say no
to any of our goofy tiktoks that are videos that
anybody asked him to be part of. He loved that.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
So, yeah, he was.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
He was the best dad. And we're lucky we have
those videos because now we look back and we can
all laugh.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
When you're at the purple Stride event, do you feel
like he's He's there?
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I do feel his presence. We have a huge team.
My mom comes from Syracuse, my sisters they live in
Syracuse and Brooklyn, New York, and they come. We have
friends that come. My aunt who is my dad's sister
and his best friend. She'll be there. So it's really
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nice that we can all be there and we can
feel my dad within each other. So it's a really
special event for us.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
So I don't want to get too far without mentioning
the you know, the purple strides and if somebody wants
to participate, what's all the information they that they need?
They can go to Purplestride dot org Forward Pittsburgh. Hold on,
hold on, you got slashes in there. You gotta go
slow with Johnny. All right, Purple Stride Stride or strides Stride.
(22:34):
I see you got to you gotta go slow with Johnny.
Purplestride dot org Slash Pittsburgh. Yeah. Now if I go
to Purplestride dot org would I also kind of be
able to find the city, or you could just kind
of you could google it. You can google it.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
If you go to Purplestride dot org. You will see
that we have over sixty events around the country. You'll
just have to search for Pittsburgh. Or if you're listening
from some other city, then you can find a city
that's closer.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
You should come to where you are.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
We are the best just saying we're a top ten affiliate. Yeah,
we're number five in the country right now. Yeah, right
behind New York, LA, Washington, d C.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Our goal this year is to rave for way. Who's
who's number four? Who's number four? Can we can? We?
Is it Washington, d C? Is it? Is it New York?
We don't, Well, it doesn't matter. We need to be
at least let's make some stride in Purple Strive. Let's
move up into the into the and then in the ranking.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
So yeah, our goal is five hundred and twenty five
thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
What's amazing? What is that plenty earmark for? Do you know?
Speaker 4 (23:46):
We use it for research and to raise awareness.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
You have any sponsors that you would like to mention
at all?
Speaker 6 (23:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (23:52):
Absolutely, So we have a few national sponsors. We have
Red med, Ipsen and Avvy, and then our premier sponsor
is Alleghany Health Network. We also have the Pirates Charities
u PMC, Helme and Cancer Center HM and Shorance Group, PMC,
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WVU Cancer Institute, Giant Eagle and Kalgan Carbon.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Okay, got quite a few sounds. That's fabulous. Purple Stride
Pittsburgh twenty twenty five is happening on April twenty six,
starts at nine am at Chinley Plaza. You can sign
up and Tammy's gonna correct me if I'm wrong Purplestride
dot org slash Pittsburgh, or you can do what Kathy says.
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You just go to Google and look up Purple Stride
Pittsburgh and you'll find all the information you need. All right.
You know for those who are just tuning in, Okay,
go ahead, what I miss Boston's number four? Oh we
got Boston, Come on, had a filly? Okay, Well there
we go. We're making drives of purple strives, all right.
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For those who who are just tuning in, Uh, we're
talking about the pan can, which is you know, it
stands for what is it the Pancreatic Cancer Action Network. Okay, uh,
you've got Tammy, Emma and Kathy here in studio. We're
talking about the Purple Stride event that is happening on
the twenty sixth. It's a short walk and of course
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you're raising money. Their goal is half a million dollars.
That's a five hundred thousand dollars. That's and of course
we want to beat Boston. That's that's the goal. That's
that's the goal. All right, But let's kind of reiterate
that pancreas is a gland that is located between the
stomach and the spine. It's a very small client it
helps in digestion and enzymes and and it's a it's
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a stinker of a little gland. Because it's very difficult
once you know, once you have, you know, a cancer
in the pancreas. It's very difficult all defined there. And
because is it because it's small, or just where it's located,
where where.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
It's located in the vague symptoms it causes people write
it off as everything else. They go, oh, it was
something they ate, Oh it was this, Oh it's that
I pulled a muscle in my bag.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
And what are some of the symptoms again, can you
can you kind.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Of mid the lower back, pain, weight loss, jaundice, changes
in bow like watery stools or oily neu onset, diabetes,
nausea or loss of appetite.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
No, is there? What is the treatment for pancreatic cancer?
Is it the the you know? Is it?
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Is it? Generally you know the same as chemo and
that kind.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Of thing pretty much the chemo. They don't do radiation
too much with it.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
They can do radiation, but the standard treatment is typically chemotherapy.
In some cases, they can also do the Webbel procedure.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Which is, yeah, what is that?
Speaker 2 (27:00):
So Kathy or Tammy might be able to speak on
it more, but it's a pretty grueling surgery several hours long,
where they essentially remove the head of the pancreas and
I believe some of the bowel.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
They like take everything within a certain they take everything
within like a certain distance from the pancreas from where
the tumor is out. And the lack of sounding a
I don't know, people, but we're not physicians.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
But yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Then they basically then they not very medically.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Hook you back well because because of the size of
the gland. The difficulty of you know, the symptoms are
fairly vague. They could be you know, because you know
back pain, that could be a pulled muscle, it could
be a kidney stone, it could be you know, and
immediately you don't go, oh, I have pancreatic cancer. And
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it's also difficult to diagnose because how do they diagnose that?
Is there some sort of blood test? How does that work?
Speaker 4 (28:05):
There is a blood test, but it's not that effective.
Usually it's through a CT or an MRI that they
find the tumor.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Okay, well, we only have a couple of minutes left,
so let's focus on Purple Stride. Tammy, tell us all
the information we need for somebody who wants to walk
and participate and donate.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Okay, It's happening on April twenty sixth at Shenley Plaza
across from the Cathedral of Learning in Oakland. At the event,
village opens at nine am. If you want a register,
you go to Purplestride dot org, forward Slash Pittsburgh, or
just Google us Purple Stride Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Very quickly, some of the sponsors, some of the main sponsors.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Alleghany Health Network, UPMC Pirates Charities, hum and Shorance Group.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Okay, it's coming up on Saturday, April twenty sixth, less
than three weeks from today, Shenley Plaza, Purplestride dot org,
slash Pittsburgh for all the information, Tammy and Kathy. Really
good to see you again. Emma was very nice to
meet you. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Really nice to meet you.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Thank you again. If you want to sign up for
Purple Stride Pittsburgh, it's coming up on Saturday morning, April
twenty sixth. Purplestride dot org slash Pittsburgh ladies. Thank you
so much and have a great day on the twenty sixth.
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
Johnny.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
As always, if you have any comments, concerns, or an
idea for our future program, please email us from this
radio station's website. I'm Johnny Heartwell, thank you so much
for listening.
Speaker 6 (29:46):
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