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Let's go. Hey, we're doinganother podcast. What the heck? Welcome
to podcast eighty four. This isthe play Pants Podcast. That's Jason Ginzi
right there. If you're watching onthe YouTube, I'm rod Ryan and uh.
We were off last week, butso we got a lot of catching
up to do. We got alot of actually, we have a lot

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of stuff to talk about. Ialmost feel a little overwhelmed of all the
things I want to get to.A couple of emails I want to get
to. You said that you hadsome stuff that you wanted to look at,
maybe some some comments from our YouTubechannel. Rock and Roll Hall of
Fame just announced who's in, Who'sout. Okay. I don't know why
I let my blood bubble on thesethings, but it happens. It's National

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Parent Normal Day. I wanted toask you a question about things that happened
in the French Quarter. I knowyou know a lot about that jazz Fest
first weekend. I didn't make itin I had the sick kids. So
we can talk a little bit aboutwhat you saw out there for jazz Fest.
And we're gonna talk Aerosmith today onthe pod. And I don't think
we've ever really gotten into Aerosmith much, but the anniversary of and I've heard

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people like Slash and some other musicianssay that Aerosmith Rocks was the album that
kind of was a pivotal point inthem going into direction that they went.
Specifically Slash, I know he hasmentioned that album. But Aerosmith in nineteen
seventy six, on this day thatwe're recording May third, they released Rocks

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where You Got Back in the Saddle. Last Child was off of that album
nineteen seventy six, So forty sevenyears, we'll talk Aerosmith in our Top
five Aerosmith songs. Jason, goodto see him, Dude, I'm having
chips. Remember last episode we weretalking about chips, So I'm like,
and I called it. You werethe Dorito cool ranch guy. Well,
I don't normally eat chips, right, I thought, why not eat chips

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during a podcast, because that's fuckingsmart. So anyway, jazz Fast people
come into town this week. Alot of people gonna be here doing some
crawl fishing. So the wife wentout and started buying chips and they're never
in the house. Well, shejust left a club Mexico and I'm like,
I don't give me some of themchips. I'm gonna get some chips.
You got people coming over. It'sa license for your house to have

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junk food in it. It's ohfucking great. As soon as somebody's come.
I want comfort foods for my guests, and you want to have that
stuff for them, even though ifyou don't get around to it, well,
you don't want to throw it away. You gotta use it up.
So how to eat that ship?Yeah, no, that it's it's fun
when that happens. But I tellyou what, you get to a certain

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age and man, your guts arewrecked. I'll have three chips. I'm
like, okay, tapping out becausemy guts are wrecked. Yeah, dude,
jazz Fest last weekend. That wasweekend number one. Uh, it
wasn't. It didn't go as plannedfor a lot of people. Obviously you
had some some issues. But um, I went out Friday and Lizzo performed
on Friday, and I'm like,I don't give a fuck about Lizzo,

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right, and I don't care.But then like we wanted around a little
bit and we went over. Mywife was of course at Lizzo, jumping
up and down, and I gotthere and dude, I'm telling you man.
You know again, the way wealways talk about good or bad music
is it's not that it's bad music, it's just may not be your style,
your type. Lizzo is an incredibleperformer. She owns the stage.

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She's unbelievably cool on stage, talkingto people in funniest shit can riff and
I'm like, damn, you knowwhat, don't like your stuff, don't
like your music. But I feltbetter afterwards. You know. It was
one of those moments. I feellike she's pretty talented. But I mean
at the end of every song orthe beginning of every song, was every
song for all the big girls outthere? Does every single thing have to

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be for the big girls? It'sfor the big girls. I'm a big
girl. I want to be Iwant to represent the big girls, and
I want you to know that biggirls can get up here and this is
for the big girls. It's like, Okay, you're a big girl enough
already. Everything doesn't have to beit doesn't have to define you. Yeah,
it was. It was interesting.I had a couple of interesting conversations.
You know. It's like, lookand we'll talk about it right here,

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because who gives a shit is uhyou know, I get it,
man, I'm all body positive.Look, I ain't no prize to look
at. Okay. I go inmy pool and people are like, what
the fuck is wrong with you?Many who looked like you got thrown down
a hill or something. So like, I realize I am not exactly captain
handsome, you know what I mean. But I feel like there's there's there's

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a pro side to her body image, right, big girls, cool man
ride that trade. But then it'slike that ain't healthy. It ain't healthy.
It's setting the minute. Maybe it'ssetting a bad thing too. It's
a it's a fifty fifty split onthat deal. And I want to be
careful because I want to get introuble, to get fucking canceled or anything.
But it feels like, yeah,I'm a cool man, you're you're
a bit of overweight cool all good? You know. It's just it just

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seems like I catch I guess Ijust catch sound bites of her. I
don't you know you watched an entireperformance. I just assume that every song
she does, okay, and thisone's going out to the big girls out
here, and then we're gonna dothis song and then okay, well you
know, praise God, and thisone's for the big girls. And then
here's my next song. It's like, okay, fucking we get it.

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It's for the big girls. Ijust feel like the soundbites, the clips
that I see that sometimes I'm aproduct of my work environment. Listen my
company. iHeart loves Lizzo. There'sshit on the TV all the time.
But I got it. Man,Okay, you've got the big girls covered.
You know you didn't hear Adele shoutingout to the big girls before every

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song of hers. It's just it'sjust when somebody is just one thing you
said it. I agree with you. I think she's super talented. She's
got Houston roots, so she's abig deal here. It's just and then
okay, she's a big girl.I get it, but I don't.
I don't need to hear about itNonStop. Just man, just go out

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and beat you. You don't gottalike call out the big girls every time.
I mean, there was that element, but it wasn't every time.
And it was cool. And Itell you what, man, afterwards,
I was I felt, I wasfired up. I was felt it was
very positive and uplifting and she's cooland she could sing her ass off,
and it's it's it's one of thosethings where had she not set her and
hammered on the big girl thing isAnd it wasn't every song, but when

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she did it, that all washedaway. I didn't think of her was
a big girl. After about twosongs, I just saw a person up
there singing and having a great time, and I was it's like I went
to with the uh, the MulanRouge many years ago in Paris, right,
And of course Titty's right, it'sold school, it's cabaret, it's
dancing, it's singing, it's it'sthis whole entertainment circus, right, But

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after like five minutes of Titti's Ididn't even think about it. It was
just the performance was cool, itwas fun. It wasn't sensual in that
way it was it was just aperformance, and like the same kind of
concept with her. After a coupleof songs, I was just watching a
performer and enjoying the show. Builtbuilt for comfort, You old sailor,
you willed son of a bitch.You Oh. I wanted to get old

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school and start pulling that cord onthe top of the old motors, remember
those old ones in those boats pullingcord before wrap it around. My grandfather
had an old school boat like that. Yet, okay, I want to
do that. So yeah, anyway, and then Saturday at rain like a
biach, that's when I was supposedto be there. So everything, you
know, my kid wasn't feeling well. I got you know, I'm talking

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to my ex and we're trying tofigure this all out, and um,
I canceled my tickets because so mykids not well. She goes to the
She gets out of school early onFriday at the doctor and then boom him
on the phone with the kid,and I'm like, okay, listen,
listen, Okay, New Orleans isout, so forget it. Don't worry
about it. Let's not even playthat you're not feeling well. You want

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to stay with it was my weekend. You want to stay with mom or
you want to come with dad?She was, I want to come with
dad. Don't even think twice aboutit. You know that's that weird,
that weird unconditional love with your kid. Had she said she wanted to stay
with Mommy. Okay, then okay, I don't get my feelings hurt.
She's not feeling well, it's anhour and a half drive. She just

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wants to stay put. Okay,sometimes little girls want their moms. And
I would have been fine, andthen boom, I would have come in.
So she's like, no, Iwant to come to your house.
I said, okay, boom,get online, cancel the tickets, go
pick her up, hour and ahalf, hour and a half back,
and then boom. I'm with asick kid. But it's it's it's your

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kid. So it's not like,oh, you're bummed out. Of course
I wanted to be at jazz Fest, but you're not bummed out. I
mean, you know, it mademe feel good that my kid wanted to
come see me still, so thatwas nice. But you're there just helping
your sick kid out all weekend,and you know, it's awesome. But

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thinking and seeing some of the stuffthat was happening on Saturday, even if
she wasn't really sick, and ifshe was just a little bit sick,
man out there in the rain Saturdaywas a nasty one. Huh. I
did want to ask you. Ididn't want to ask you about Ed Sharon
though, because man We've been talkingabout him in the news a lot lately.
As the families. It's not justum, it's just it's it's not

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Marvin Gay, it's whoever else wasinvolved with writing the song. Let's get
it on. They're going after EdShearon right now for his song. I
don't know the name of it,but I'll be Loving You when I'm seventy
and it's a big wedding song.And he's in court every day now,
and he court wasn't in session overthe weekend, so he came in in
New Orleans and then boom back intocourt. Did he talk about it at

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all? Did he mentioned it onstage? He mentioned it very briefly in
between songs. He said, yeah, maybe I heard about it. I've
been kind of sitting there in courtfor the last week, so it feels
good to get stand it up andout here. You know. That was
it? He just okay, righton truck Man, I tell you what.
I didn't know that he mentioned it. Yeah, I don't don't know
much about Ed Sharon, but that'sa Helvard performer. That dude. It's

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him, that's it. Yeah,him, there's no band all him in
loops and I'm like, and heexplained it right out of the game.
He played a song and he says, hey, listen, I want to
I want you to know what I'mdoing up here. And he explained the
whole fucking thing. And then hestarted doing it and everyone's just going fuck.
And like the one time he fuckedit up, He's like, oh
shit, I'm at the wrong speed. I sucked it up. So he's
sorry, and he just goes back, starts fresh, and he starts doing

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it again. It's like nobody cared. He just owned it, man,
and it was again, not mybag of tricks. Awesome. He was
not not my proudest moment telling thisstory on this podcast. But Ed Sharon,
that's the second time he's played jazzFest, Oh yeah, yeah,
a long time ago. He playedit the first time he played jazz Fest.

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And I talked about this because yourdaughter was there and I'm my goddaughter
and and we're hanging out and she'slike, come on, uncle Rogie,
let's go. You know, shewanted to go see Ed sharing it.
I'm like, where the fuck isEd Sharon? And I'm like, I
don't know who is this guy?Nobody gives a shit about Ed Sharon because
he was he was playing on likethe Gentilly stage. And I said,

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and I told your daughter, andI said, listen, all the milks
are gonna be over at bon Jovie. I gotta go watch bon Jovi.
Okay, I'm telling this to yourdaughter, my god daughter. I'm telling
her. The MILFs are gonna beon the other side of the track.
I need to be over here inthis number. So that's when we kind
of split up. So she wentto go see Ed Shearing and I went

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to go see and I went togo hang out with all the milks,
which there were. I was right, I was spot on. There was
just a million mills at a bonJovie show. But that was the that
was the first time that he hadplayed, and that was my I told
that story. And I texted yourdaughter within the last couple of weeks and
I just, you know, handto talk to you. Just check it

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in, miss you. And thenshe goes, h yeah, we'll catch
up soon, you know. Ilistened to the podcast. I'm like,
ah shit, I'm like shit,I'm like that's not cool. I don't
think you need to hear all this. Yeah, it gets weird then,
right, you know, what Imean, like, that's one thing you

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gotta keep in mind too, islike, what's what's great about these podcasts
is that Wow? Not much obviously, but like your daughter could go back
and listen to all this shit somedayit's art. She's gonna be like,
no, God, my dad andmy uncle were dip shits. No,
as soon as she gets of age, I'm just hitting I got everything set
up. One button, Pully,it's just the cleaner switch. Boom.

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It just wipes out every dumb thingI've ever said on for the whole thing.
Man, that's actually not a badidea. So I'm kind of open
ended. I mean, there's anoutside chance. I look, there's still
some flights available my kids, notone hundred percent. I do have her
again this weekend, so we'll seewhat happens. Um. I wanted to
share with you an email, andnot because of specifically what I wrote,

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but I kind of wanted to getyour take a little bit like this happens
to me all the time. Amberis uh is going to New Orleans?
Okay, she says, Uh,good evening, Rod husband and I are
venturing to New Orleans this weekend.The North Mississippi All Stars and then two
nights of Better than Ezra. Yep, Since that's your stopping grounds, what

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are a few of your musts whenyou go back? Thanks for your suggestions,
and I hope you're having a greatweek. So that's Amber and her
dude. They're going into New Orleans. So I mean, I do I
get these emails all the time.So I said, all right, here
are my must have drinks. Amber, I said, you got to go
to the Napoleon House and get aPim's cup. You gotta go to Molly's

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on the Market and get a frozenice coffee, Lafitte's Blacksmith's shop. You
got to get the Purple Voodoo.And I put in parentheses very strong.
I said, party, party afterdark. The gold Mine is one of
my favorite places. Tell owner DavidBrinks. I said, hello, do
a flaming doctor pepper shot. Andthen the late night The Dungeon is my

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favorite bar on Tulou Street, justoff of Bourbon. Next thing, all
right, take the Pirate Tour.My friends own it Pirates of the Quarter
dot com, Pirates of the Quarteron ig and Facebook. Then I wrote,
if you go past the Quarter,down past the French Market, it's
a bit of a walk, butit's manageable. There's a whole another world

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called Frenchman Street. You'll be amongstlocals. You'll hear really amazing music till
the wee hours of the night.Everyone I have sent there has been amazed
and have had no idea that thisarea even existed in New Orleans. Most
people just hit Bourbon Street and Isent her a link to a Frenchman Street.
So, as a guy that livesthere and basically roams around the quarter

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every day, did I miss anything? As far as you know what I
mean? You could go on andon and on for hours, you know
about stuff to see and stuff todo. What would you tell her?
I would say, did I missanything? Now? I mean, you're
you know what by going to thoseplaces, you're going to stop at places

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in between and distill her own shiton your own You know, that's time
you get to French Street before youget to Frenchman Street. Oh well,
there's Rod just mentioned, there's youknow, the defeats, the French Market
or whatever, you know things.So um, yeah, I get that
all the time, people wanting tohit some you know, hey, they
want to hear from somebody that's beenthere. You know what what what are

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your favorite places to go to?Right? It's tough because you don't know
how many times they've been there.You know, if it's if it's the
first time, you just tell themthe basic. The must dudes out of
the gate. You know, yougotta go to Jackson Square. You gotta
get a beigny a. You gottago up by the river. You take
a paddle boat ride, you know, go to the feats, all the
places you mentioned. Yeah, that'sthat's your first time. Second time,
then you start digging in a littlebit more, and then you do the
Frenchman streets and then you want todig in a third time. You go

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over to the Byewater where it getsthat's like, you know, Bourbon Street
is you're you're you know, youryour your candy bar. You know,
it's easy. It's solid cover songsmostly and it's just it's it's Bourbon Street.
And then you go to the FrenchmanStreet and it's brass bands and Latin
and shit. And then you godown to the Mirror or I'm sorry,
then you go over to uh,the Byewater and that's just that's just whole

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other level of different bizarro. Youknow, the Saturn Bar and the Highhole
Lounge and all these little dirty divesand stuff, and that's just a whole
another animal. And then uptown isa whole another animal too, you know,
so you head up, head upSaint Charles. So there's other areas,
but you're right if somebody's just kindof going in for a weekend,
though. I feel like for me, I'm pretty good on my feet.
I want to walk everywhere and everythingthat I said, even getting down to

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Frenchman Street. And this is foranybody that's listening that's thinking about going to
New Orleans Frenchman Street. Every timeI've taken somebody there, they just go,
what the fuck? What is this? It's kind of like another Bourbon
Street. The difference, the bigdifference is that you gotta pay a cover.
Everywhere you go on Bourbon Street.Everywhere is free. They want you

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to come in drink, drink,drink, drink, drink, drink,
drink specials. And there's, likeyou said, cover bands, karaoke,
that type of shit. If youwant to go see like real bands,
great jazz and horn sections and thingslike that, you are gonna have to
pay a cover. And then youget your craft beers and stuff, and
it's gonna be a lot of locals. There's still a ton about of town
people there. But I remember,you know, that's kind of come around

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in the last twenty years or so, and everybody is blown away and it's
still within walking that's for me,that's walking distance. I still like to
walk that. And that's the bestpart about like Fat Tuesday and Marty gard
Day. That's where we end upbecause that's where the chaos really is.
I mean Frenchman straight now. Yeah, that's where like the weird weird avant

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Guard parade start and the little thelittle drum parties, Like everyone with the
drum shows up. There's one parade. Everyone's gonna fucking drum either a based
or a snare, and it's justeveryone banging on shit and it's it's just
the most coolest area down there forMarty Grad and that's that's a locals thing.
And then they parade right into thequarter that it all falls apart.

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But yeah, Fat Tuesday about eighto'clock in the morning, nine o'clock in
the morning down in the Marinie that'sthe spot, dude. Yeah, that's
where you want to go. SoI mean, yes, there's a million
things. Look email us, man, I'll tell you where to go,
but you basically covered it. Youknow. I always tell people all the
time, what else do we do? If it looks cool, it probably
is. That's usually what I tellpeople. You know, I shouldn't.
I should have mentioned Dragos, greatplace, that oyster house for the oysters.

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Yeah, all that good ship,dude, it's all fucking great.
And be honest with you. Itell people to skip act me because that
fucking line is ridiculous. Yeah.Yeah, the line is just way too
out of hand. And if forme it's still a walk, it's still
within a walk. I know.Sometimes I mean, chicks, if you're
wearing ass jackers, you're not gonnabe able to walk to Frenchman Street.
You're not gonna be able to walkto um the Hilton where Dragos is.

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But for me, I could walkthat. I still I want to I
want to move. I want tobe on my feet the whole time.
Um, you can walk, butDragos is where you want to go and
get the oysters. So I'm goingto add that onto that email really quick.
So obviously I told her, youknow, to take the pirate tour.
Yeah, this is what I wantedto run by you. Today.
It's National Paranormal Day, so Idon't know the exact definition of paranormal,

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but we talked about it briefly onthe air because I know Test is into
all this shit and dream catchers andsaging rooms and bullshit. Okay, I'm
coming around a little bit on theUFO stuff. You're coming around a little
bit. I do feel like thereare some things out there. I'm okay

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with calling something a UFO. Anunidentified flying object is a little fucking green
man in there driving around. Idon't know. I don't think so I'm
coming around though. Maybe it's theguys in Blink within eighty two. They
got me. But when it comesto the ghosts stuff, okay, And
when it comes to people taking picturesand they use a flash and it catches,

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it catches a piece of dust andpeople try calling that orbs and those
are spirits and all of that stuff. New Orleans is a great place for
those types of stories. And asa guy that owns Pirates of the Quarter
dot com, Jason's a very He'sa history guy. He's a history buff.

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And that's what kind of led himand his brother into this? And
and I've taken both types of tours. I'm promised I'm going somewhere with this.
You come at it in a funway, but you're actually giving history.
You're you're giving things that really happened. You know, you hear me
do the commercial all the time,and these are the ways that you know,
the things that formed New Orleans andthe reason why New Orleans is the

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way that it is. And youknow, and you do talk about Lafitte's
blacksmith shop. Well, you know, I don't think those guys live there.
But the ghost tours, there's thesefantastic stories that are told and and
I know that people for years becauseyour tour is relatively new in the quarter.

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So with today being national or anormal day, a lot of people
will go to New Orleans and theysay, I want to take a ghost
to her. You know, howdo you approach that? Because I they're
telling stories and I'm sure from whatI've gathered and then knowing you for as

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long as I have, they graba little piece of history. There may
have been a party, there mayhave been somebody that was being tortured up
in a in an attic somewhere,but you know, blood spilling and body
spilling out of doorways and down thestreet, and in the in the nunnery,
there's apparently a bunch of coffins upthere, and they blessed the screws

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and they screwed the door shut,and there's vampires up. They take a
little bit of history and they kindof like tack on these huge stories.
So where are you at with theghost stories and the paranormal because you live
in one of the haunted, mosthaunted cities in America. So I'm told,
well, that's the fun part ofit, you know. And people

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will ask occasionally on the tour,they're like, hey, you see any
ghosts? And I go and here'smy answer I give every time that question
is asked of me. Have youseen any ghosts? I said, I'm
a grown ass man. No,grow up, that's my answer, no,
because there aren't any. I've beenin that I've been in the French
Quarter twenty six years now. I'vebeen drunk out of my skull, I've

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been stone cold sober. I've beenin almost every fucking building in the French
Quarter. You know what, I'veseen nothing, Not a goddamn thing.
Dude, there's no fucking ghosts,you know. Oh but dude, and
I'll get it, and we're gonnaget hammered today, probably in the comment
section, which is cool, man. I you know, tell me,
you tell me your little story abouthow you saw a ghost or you were
in a hotel of the French Quarterand when you left or you went to

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bed, the drawer was closed andin the morning it was opened, and
I'm like, yeah, that's agood one, That's one of my favorite
ones. But you realize these buildingsin the French Quarter are old as fuck,
and there's not a straight you gota place? Is there a floor
that's straight? There isn't. Everythingis at an angle. Shit opens.
Sorry, there's always going to bean explanation. There's no goddamn ghosts in
the French Quarter. They tell storiesabout vampires and I'm like, where the

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fuck are they now? Where arethey? Because I've done yet they were
around all I mean, you know, Interview with a Vampire and Brad Pitt
story telling and Rice she lived inNew Orleans. I mean the stories that
she wrote, she wrote, youknow, New Orleans was the backdrop of
these great stories and stuff, andit's great. It's I love all that

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shit. I love and I loveInterview with a Vampire, the series it
was just on AMC. I lovethat too, man. But again I'll
go back to I'm a grown assman. You know what you get in
your head. You start thinking aboutstuff, then you start thinking you're seeing
shit, and then you're drinking,and of course you're gonna see shit.
My favorite one is when people holdtheir phones. Dude, look, there's
a dude back there. I go, do you fucking know anything about light

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and dark in photography? Come on? Your tour is very different. It
absolutely ghost tours. And like Isaid, yours is relatively new ghost tours.
They probably have been doing them forforty years in New Orleans, right,
Oh totally. And those guys,look you you believe in ghost great,
I'm all for it. Go forit. Take the ghost tours because

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a lot of those guys do areally fantastic job. They there, they
look the part, they act thepart. There's a lot of really good
ones and and god love them,man, and they're great dudes. But
I don't I don't buy any ofthat shit. Do they run any kind
of a disclaim? I know,I don't remember I've taken a ghost tour
before. It's been twenty years.Do they run a disclaimer? Do they
just go right into it and saywhat you're about to hear? This is
it, man, this is whatfucking happened. There's you know, Dracula's

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right up there in that window.Well, what they do is they tell
you is what it really is alot of times is they're gonna tell you
a story of a murder. Somebodygot fucking killed at a party, like
you mentioned, right, someone hungthemselves on a balcony. Those things are
all probably true because that shit happensall the time anywhere, right. Well,
then, of course, then thenthey twisted into you know, well
people have stayed there, have seenthe little girl walking down the hall and

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say, okay, that guy wasfucked up on shrooms. You know,
It's like, no, you didn'tsee the little girl because a little girl
dead. That's not how this works, you know what I mean? And
then we always we always, Ialways explain it this way. Well,
because you talked about Lafitte's blacksmith's shop, right, that's a fucking the best
bar in the quarter as far asI'm concerned, especially day drinking. You

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get in there, you get atable, sit down, chill out,
drink some of those purple drinks.It's fucking awesome. Don't say some of
those purple drinks. Drink one purpledrink. It depends on how much of
a day you're gonna have. Don'tdrink more than one purple drink. But
I told her, yeah, thepurple Voodoo it's very strong. It's a
right. It's one of my favoritebars that chill out it because it's just

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got that look. It's build theseventeen seventies. It's old as fucking it's
awesome. But then it's like,you know, oh, the ghost of
this, ghost of that? AndI'm like, look, I've done plenty
of ghost research over the years,and the research is this. I've seen
every episode of Scooby two thousands oftimes. The end of every episode.
What is it? It's an assholein a mask. It's all the research

(26:07):
you need, bro, That's whatit is. Okay, Oh up,
And I'm no, we're gonna gethammered on the ghost thing, but you
know what, go for it.You want to believe in that shit?
Great now, now, ghosts andall that horseshit. It's different than like
spirituality. You want to light someincense for Grandma or some shit like that,
or you're having conversations with a deadrelative. That's you having a conversation
and you're you're doing that. That'sgreat. I think that's awesome. If

(26:30):
that's how you're dealing with things inyour life, I'm all for it.
But don't sit there in fucking standon the street corner to tell me there's
a fucking ghost upstairs, because I'mnot gonna fucking believe it. I mean,
the absolute best story is there isthere's a there's a convent or a
nunnery in the back of the quarterconvent. Yeah, and as Richard Simmons

(26:56):
grew up across the street. Soon the tour they show you these windows
up at the very top and theygot the shutters closed, and they tell
you that these Now, I listen, we've all known nuns over the time.
I don't know how agile they wereback in the day, but apparently
there was a ship coming over here. It was bringing vampires. They're in

(27:18):
their coffins and everything, and thenuns flew into action. Okay, they
were just incredibly fit and nimble.They flew into action. They intercepted the
coffins, took them right upstairs,put them in that room up at the
top, and the priest blessed thescrews, and they screwed everything shut.

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And then apparently because of the separationof church and state, nobody can go
up there, and these vampires areup there. It's a fantastic story.
It's pastic story, and it's onethat I tell if I'm walking with somebody
and I come across that. It'sa it's an awesome story to tell,
and it kills every fucking time.I mean, when you're walking with somebody

(28:03):
by that covenant the nunnery, andyou tell that story, they remember that
for the rest of their lives.But is it true. It's an Rice's
story, it's you know what Imean, Like, it's probably not true,
but it's just such an awesome story. So these ghost tours do that,
yeah, and it's okay. I'mnot shooting at them. They do
a great job at that. It'sstorytelling. You're having drinks and you're getting

(28:25):
scared. Who doesn't love going onin houses and all that shit. It's
all it is, right. Thatstory comes from Ann Rice's books. You
know Lestat was buried or in acoffin up there in the convent. It's
just been twisted around over the time, you know what I mean, and
you never notice how it's really convenient. How well there's a separation of church
and states, so you really can'tgo check. That's convenient storytelling right there,

(28:45):
dude. I've told this story too. I've told people like, like,
man, if you're really into ghostsand ship, here's what you're gonna
do. Go yanka tooth out tonight, throw it under your pillow, wake
up tomorrow morning and see what's goingon under that pillow. It's the same
fucking thing. Sorry, kids,who or listen it is I'm not that's
that's very very soon in my future. Okay, Well, happy National Paranormal

(29:10):
Day everybody. And then wait,wait no, they always got those things,
those little fucking people, the ghostbustersshoes. There's dudes out there with
those things, the little fucking thelights up and ship. Oh oh,
I'm feeling it, man, I'mfeeling Oh. It's it's cooler right here,
the temperatures two degrees cooler. I'mlike, you're in the fucking French
quarter. It's all brick. Shit'sgonna change temperatures around with a piece of

(29:30):
technology. There's a couple of dorksout there doing that, and that's what
that's what I've You've lost me.You want to tell great stories, that's
awesome, because the art of storytellingis a skill, but don't be fucking
Oh we got one, we gotone? Oh did you feel that?
It just got cold? Like Ijust want to hit him with my fucking
sword? Do you? So you'reI imagine there's a time when you're bringing

(29:56):
a tour of your pirate group,you're passing, You're you're crossing over ghost
tour people, right, yeah,yeah, the whole tour. I should
write a book just on the tourguide business because it's fucking wild man like
that. There's rules and shit you'resupposed to follow, which most people do.
But every once in a while youget someone who's gonna be a dick.
And you know, I'm fucking dressedas a pirate and I'm carrying a

(30:18):
sword. I'm pretty much gonna ownthe moment, you know what I mean?
Right? And yeah, the ghostpeople just stare at me like,
whoa, that looks like fucking fun. As we go by and they're sitting
there hearing about you know, fuckingghost in some bedroom. You know,
So again, take the ghost tourwhen you come to New Orleans. That's
fine, you're gonna have fun.But that's what I'm up against. The

(30:41):
ghost tours are so world famous andwe're a haunted city. What people don't
understand is that the fucking pirate influenceis so much more important to everything New
Orleans. But you know what,let's go stand on the street corner and
fucking look at nothing. You slide? Is it? Poor formed? Can
you slide up some cards as yougo and buy the ghost people? Yeah?
Man, look we're gonna we're gonnalive and die in our own way,
and we would ever do that.Right. They're out there working just

(31:03):
as hard as anybody else. JasonRock and Roll Hall of Fame announced Rage
is in. Sound Garden is notin. I thought that was a flip
of a coin. I'm good withit, you know. I think Sound
Garden will eventually get in. ButIron Maiden didn't make it in again.
And if that's the one thing thatkind of got like my blood bubbling today,

(31:26):
the fact that fucking Iron Maiden didn'tget in. It's I mean,
I've already, like I've already bitchedand moaned about it, so I'm kind
of like over it. But whyJudas Priest is in even though I think
they got one of those bullshit thingslike side deal. I'm kind of a
you know, like Randy Rhodes gotin, you know, because of Tom

(31:48):
Morello. I don't know how llcool J is in. Is he in
there as a regular rock and RollHall of Fame and ductee or is he
in there because he's you know,it feels very much like there's the adult
table in the kid's table, andlike like Rendy Rhodes at the kid's table
at the rock Home, you knowwhat I mean. It feels very much
like that. So I think maybeJudas Priests, maybe he got in that

(32:10):
way. I don't know. ButGeorge Michael got in with the most votes
from the fans, and then youknow, he made it in. Willie
Nelson made it in on his firstnomination. Kate Bush got in somehow,
which is such a bullshit, whichsuch bullshit. It doesn't mean that it's
just it's not that I don't likeher, it's just it's absolute bullshit.

(32:30):
Nobody can tell me a second anotherKate Bush song. For God's sake,
somebody come at me with one moreKate Bush song. They can't, you
can't. And it's influenced. It'syeah, it's literally dumb. It's it's
weird. Chylus goes in, It'slike, come on, you know,
I don't have a problem with that. She's a songwriter. I think she's

(32:51):
very well respected amongst her peers.I'm okay with Cheryl Crowe. I'm good
with it. I just don't Idon't even get upset anymore. The thing
that really does upset me, andI'm absolutely creased about is Iron Maiden,
who still play around the world inat minimum arenas stadiums still and still play

(33:13):
some stadiums. Right, How canthey not be in the Rock and Roll
Hall of Fame because you have youhave Black Sabbath. I mean, the
way the tree works for me isBlack Sabbath is on top, and then
right after that, I think it'sJudas Priest, Iron Maiden, and Zeppelin.
I mean, I really do putthose three together, and then you

(33:35):
got Deep Purple and those other things. But I think right underneath Sabbath is
Iron Maiden. What am I Howam I so wrong on this? Yeah,
I don't know what the deal isIron Maiden, because they've got the
albums, they've got the touring,they've got the street cred, they've got
all of it. But you know, Motley Crue is in. You know,
No, Mally Crue is not in. You're right, Mala Crew is
not in. Def Leppard's in.Okay, yeah, you'll this is where

(34:00):
we started falling apart, and wesaid like, well, this band got
in before this band. Again.I've used this example many times when you
go to the fucking Louver, oneof the biggest best museums on earth,
and you're like, standing is anyonestanding there? Going well, I can't
believe they fucking put the Venus deMilo in here before the before the Mona
Lisa, fuck that, you knowwhat I mean? Nobody cares. Ten
years down the road's gonna be uphappy to go through the place and go

(34:20):
that's cool, you know what Imean. It's a museum. But we'd
be caught up in that argument allthe time. They'll get in. Well,
what's interesting about the Rage Soundguard thing. There's all kinds of little fun,
funny, fumbling bullshit that goes aroundgetting these people in. I wonder
if like Soundguard, like they said, hey, look, don't put us
in this year because they were stillworking out the legalities between the widow of
Chris Cornell and the band members.They had just got that taken care of

(34:43):
a couple of weeks ago, sothere's gonna be Soundguard music coming out.
So I wonder if they just said, hey, wait until we get this
ship ironed out, then put usin, you know what I mean.
So that makes it a more touchyfeely, huggy sort of event. We
don't know what goes on behind thescenes. No, no, no,
but here's I'll play into what youjust said. The induction ceremony. The

(35:05):
guy that is the curator of thatis one of the really high ups,
maybe the number three four guy foriHeartRadio, John Sykes. He's an old
MTV guy and stuff like that.The fact that Iron Maiden said, we
don't want it, we're not showingup, we're not categorized, we don't
blah, we don't we don't wantto be put in a box. All

(35:28):
of that. This guy's ultimately,I say, this guy, John Sykes,
this iHeart guy, He's got toput together a television show, put
together an award show, you know, the Grammys has to be put together.
The Academy Awards has to be puttogether. That's his thing. He's
got to put that together. Ifhe's got a band that's flat out saying
I'm not showing up, well thenfuck you. I'm not putting you in

(35:52):
right, that should not play intoit. They deserve. They have done
more than enough to be in theRock and Roll Hall of Fame. I
really do feel the fact that theywon't show up for that fucking TV show
that is a major strike against them. Yeah, no, I agree.
I mean because you have to putthat show together. That show has to

(36:14):
be interesting. That's why you seecertain layers, you know. Okay,
rage against the machines in that's ourhard, heavy rock this year. Okay,
we're done, we're good. Wegot it. We got our pop
tart you know, chicks, shellCrow, George Michael, pop artists.
Okay, we got that covered.We got a country guy. Oh,
Willie's in here. Let's get himin before he croaks. You know,
he's ninety good. It's like theycheck the boxes. Okay, we gotta

(36:34):
get one of these, one ofthese one of these, one of these.
Okay, we got a good show. It feels that way, you
know, it's what it ends upbeing. That's okay. Yeah, when
I think about it, it makesme sick. If I don't think about
it, then okay, boom,I'm not gonna lose any sleep. I'm
gonna sleep. I'm gonna sleep justfine tonight. But it's amazing that after
all these years, that rock androll Hall of fame still gets me upset.

(36:55):
It still gets me upset even whenokay, good, rage, okay,
great. I kind of an idea. I mean, Tom Morello seems
to be really really involved these days, and I know he's back in the
he's in that back room with thenerds, and he's the only reason because
of his influence, he's the onlyHe's the guy that got Randy Rhodes,
you know, even for them toeven talk about him. So, you

(37:19):
know, you got a bunch ofguys back to that fucking worship Roxy music,
and then you got Tom MORRELLO.So, uh, what Voe came
here? He is that a bark? Well, yeah, that's about the
butt came here. Vo comes everybodyon the podcast. Man, Holy shit,
it's probably your dog, dude.Oh yeah, No, she hasn't
had a full bark in over.Yeah, she's gonna have to. Actually,

(37:39):
I'm not upset about it. I'mnot upset about having a three quarters
of a three quarter bark. Igotta let her out. She's yeah,
got hang on, we didn't,so we don't got to go much further
on this Rock and Roll Hall ofFame thing. I'm almost sick of hearing
myself talk about it. To behonest with you, it's uh and I
said again this morning, Come on, just Garth Brooks. I will be

(38:02):
upset if Garth Brooks is not nominatednext year. Dolly Willie and I get
it. You still got to takecare of some of these. There's the
older guys. You know, youmight need to go back and get fucking
you know. I don't know MerleHaggard, Merle Haggard and Tubs somebody with
the last name of Tubs. Um, you have to get him in there.
But Garth Brooks so a fucking rockstar man, you know, put

(38:24):
in No, it's fine, Imean, you know whatever, I'll watch
I'll watch the Rage against the MachineInduction. I'll be like, okay,
cool, I'll see what they dowith with George Michael. That'll be interesting,
you know, but yeah, whatever, who gives a shit? Right?
I want to bring something up fromlast last episode. We talked about
Stained m and we talked about GretaVan Fleet and how you you know,

(38:47):
their new song came out, whichis a great song, but yet it's
not gonna get much radio airplay,and it's not it's barely getting any radio
airplay around the country. I checkthis morning, nobody's playing that song really,
and they're not. And you broughtup how you know, maybe maybe
uh, maybe gret band Fleet don'tgive a shit because they can make enough

(39:07):
money through touring and TikTok and allthe other shit and downloads and vinyl sales
and all that merchandise. But that'sgood enough for them, right. That
was kind of the gist of yourcomment. And I'm like, yeah,
that maybe some bands don't need tobe on the radio to to you know,
they don't care. They got theirown thing going on and they don't
have to worry about right, right. So a guy who who actually listens

(39:28):
into the podcast chimes and occasionally isRichard lundie H. He said, hey,
look there's a lot of good rockbands putting out good music, but
y'all will never play them unless theygot a million dollars backing them. He's
talking about you and I and ourradio stations, right, Yeah. A
perfect example is Lit band, theband Lit. You know, uh,

(39:49):
their last CD was ridiculous, yetno airplay. That's why bands like Greta
van Fleet do what they do andthey're happy. Now he's got some interesting
points in there. Um, Ididn't hear the last album, so I
couldn't speak on that. His pointabout, hey, some bands just want
to do that, I'm I'm withyou. I think I think there's a
plenty of bands and don't give ashit about radio, but paying us millions

(40:12):
of dollars that doesn't happen. Okay. I want to make it clear,
and you've made it clear many timesthe podcast it we have bands don't pay
us anything, if anything else theradio station when you play it, those
every time it's played, it's calleda spin. Those spins get added up
and then quarterly radio rights checks tothe artists who play on the radio.
So it's actually backwards. You know, we don't pay bands don't pay us

(40:37):
to get on the radio. Allright. They just know. It's not
how it works. It's it's it'srecord labels who'll say, hey, here's
a band we're pushing right now,here's a new song. Do you like
it or not? Does it fityour radio station or not? They talked
to Radio Wizard in Houston. Theytalk to me, and they talk to
program directors all around the country,and we go, yeah, that fits
our station, we'll play it,or no, that doesn't fit where we're

(40:57):
trying to accomplish with our stations,so we won't play. That's pretty much
how the game works. So witha band like Lit, I'm just going
to guess because I don't know.I really don't know, but I'm guessing
that Lit does not have any backingfrom a major record labels. I didn't
hear about it. I'm guessing thatLit put out an album and they have

(41:21):
a certain amount of fans, andthey put something out and their fans bought
it, and this guy likes it. But it's Lit and they're fucking street
team working it, working it.Meaning if you do have major label backing,
and let's say you they were onOURCA back in the day, our

(41:42):
SA has got some juice and theyhave a team of salespeople, record people
that will go out and they willgo out and promote it and push a
guy like Jason and push a guylike the Radio Wizard. Hey man,
we got this. This is reallygood man. You should take a listen.
You should take a listen. Lit'snot at that level where they have
people working for them. So Litis just like the other millions of bands

(42:05):
that are floating around on YouTube rightnow. The difference is they did have
a hit and there's some name recognitionthere, but other than that, they're
no better off than fucking Richard Cheesethat's you know, putting out his own
CDs and and other artists. Soit's it's on them, you know.

(42:27):
I just don't think they have arecord deal. No, and you don't.
You don't have to have a recorddeal. But it's just how do
you expect us to go and findall this stuff? You know? That's
what That's what having a major labelon your side will do. They will
go out and they've got salespeople togo out and push it and get it
in front of people and get itout there and do the different things that
need to be done for promoting thenew album. It's on LIT to promote

(42:52):
it themselves. And man, letme tell you, those songs are gonna
be fucking amazing, you know,if they're gonna get play. Yeah,
well, I know there's just alot of bands like that. Stabbing Westward
just played here, remember them?Oh yeah, yeah, what do I
have to do? Yeah yeah,a couple of really really great songs,
you know, and the singers dealingwith some personal things. He had some

(43:14):
health issues and stuff, and they'reputting off their own stuff right now,
and they're working on trying to dosome sort of a comeback type thing.
And yeah, it's just there's amillion of those out there right now.
There's a million of those. Mostbands. I didn't even know Crazy Town
was still together until I saw thefucking lead singer and a guitar player get
into a fight on TMZ last week. It's like, I imagine those guys

(43:37):
are probably still trying to bang outnew music, you know. Um,
but yeah, we don't accept moneyand songs, and that doesn't Lit does
not have to pay to be onthe air. No. The problem you
have though, with like a bandlike Lit, maybe the album is good,
Um, I don't know, butyou know, there's a lot of
noise. So what happens is theserecord labels they get access to us,

(44:00):
the program directors and other people inthe industry. You know, LIT doesn't
have that person ringing my phone sendingme emails. Hey. You know,
they just don't have the people tohelp. That takes a lot of people
to put these things together and getin front of people. You know,
you gotta let me know what's outthere and then I'll go listen to it,
and then I listen. You know, don't just start emailing me links
to fucking songs. Okay, that'snot really gonna help me either, Like

(44:22):
I don't there's not enough time inthe day to listen to all the music
that's out there. You just don'thave time. So that's why these major
labels get shit in front of you. And now occasionally there's these weird little
bands that will get a weird songthat sneaks through, like the band Giovanni
and the Hired Guns. You knowthat song they had out of the last
summer, Ramona Yala or whatever it'scalled. Song came out of nowhere.
I mean, yeah, they're ona label, but it like it got

(44:43):
it took forever and ever and ever, and it just sort of inched its
way up and then people started takingnotice of it, and then a label
got involved more and then they pushit out. That is such a rare
occurrence, you know, and itkind of came out of Texas because it's
a Texas band, I believe.So it shows you that, but it
shows you that it still can't andhappen, you know, like it still
can't happen for a band, anda band can that can still a rock

(45:06):
band, you know, can stillbe discovered and you know, you don't
have to be on American Idol.You can still put stuff out there and
try to get noticed. It's just, you know, the music industry has
never been easy, you know.It's it's always been incredibly hard. And
for every band that makes it,there's a million that don't. And nothing

(45:27):
has changed. Nothing has changed,No, not really. I think what's
good about it now? Though,Like you say, you've got a band
you love from the you know,early nineties that have just not had the
success. They haven't been back onthe radio, like like litt for this
guy right, he likes the bandgreat. Well, they can keep putting
out albums every few years and theirfan base who's probably connected to them through
Facebook or whatever. If it popsup on Facebook, you're like, oh

(45:47):
shit, they got a new albumout. Cool boom, Okay, maybe
you buy it, maybe you downloada couple of songs. A band could
probably sustain a life with that,with touring and hitting the you know,
the small sheds and the small clubsaround the country. You could do it.
You could make money doing that,you know, you could. I
don't know if I'd want to doit, but hey, if you want
to do it that way, youcan bang it out. Told. Most

(46:08):
of those hair metal bands are stillplaying, still putting stuff out, don't
have a record deal. They're onthe Monsters of Rock, Creuse, Faster,
Pussycat and Fucking Bang Tango and ToraTorah and whatever. You know,
Steel Hard, anybody that had onesong, you know, some hair metal
song, they're still playing and they'reprobably still recording new stuff, you know,

(46:30):
I mean all the way up untilDocking. You know, they're probably
still putting music out there. GeorgeLynch is always putting shit out, you
know it. It doesn't mean thatit needs to be on the radio.
It's just they built a fan baseback in the day, and you know
what, they still go out andthey tour and they still put shit out
for their fans, and it's greatwhere lits at and you know lit they

(46:52):
had a couple of hits, sothey probably can make a living. You
know, like, I don't knowif they have dajobs. Well you've got
if you've got that hit, youknow, um that that's gonna get thrown
into a movie or TV show everyonce in a while. That's where you
make your bank. That can thatcan carry along for a while. You
go do some shows, you tour, you got your merch you know what,

(47:13):
if you build enough fan base andyour work, I'm sure they're fine.
I'm sure they're fine. But that'sthat's still kind of rare too.
Do you even get to that levelof success, you know, yeah,
money, most of the guys thatwe all fell into the trappings of kind
of somewhat worshiping back in the day, these guys are not gonna be on
cribs. They're just not. Um. You know. There's of course,

(47:38):
you know, you mentioned def Leppardand you know Bond. Everybody knows bon
Jovi's like so insanely rich. Hewants to buy a football team rich.
He's you know, he's in therein that billionaire area. Um. But
man, it's just these guys thatwe we we looked up to. You
go and look at them, andyou know, I don't know how if

(47:59):
you out some songs and you ownthe publishing of them and that sort of
thing. But you know, me, as the drummer of my band,
I thank god every day we didn'tget signed, and I didn't go that
direction because I'd beyond that fucking monstersof rock cruise, playing my one song
and you know, and then goingback to my mom's basement. Yeah,

(48:21):
yeah, no, probably, you'reright, You're right. I thank god
that I quit when I did,and I and I didn't go out to
Los Angeles, and you know,I just I my friend Mark hates when
I talk like that. I'm I'mso glad we didn't get signed by a
record label. I I just becauseit worked out. You know, I
wouldn't be where I am, Andthank god I got out when I did.

(48:44):
But that's the thing that we were. We were too late. Nirvana
already hit. We weren't doing that. It wasn't going to happen for us,
you know, I was just gonnago out to La and struggle.
Yeah, yeah, no, Imean that that, but but I just
wanted to make sure we made itclear that we're not getting checks written to
us. Yes to play music.It's just in fact, it's quite illegal
nowadays, after what's his name Spitzerin New York years ago, sign all

(49:07):
those rules and stuff, and yougot to sign so much paperwork when you
work in radio. Oh, it'sgross. It's gross. Not the old
days when they bring in blow andhorrors and corvettes and you can play music.
Man, I'm like, we missedit by about ten years. Man.
I used to hear we hear storiesall the time. Yeah, man,
you want to play this song?No, it's piece of shit.
Open up a briefcase. There's aride. Go for a ride. Oh

(49:30):
dude, you know you're spending itlike ninety times. That's how you got
songs on the radio back in theday. Man, you can't do that.
Go for a ride. You comein with a brand new Warner Brothers
jacket, and then all of asudden the songs being played on the air.
Okay, amazing how it used towork. Well, Errol Smith was
able to do it the old schoolway. I'm sure Blow was involved though,
well blow Jesus Christ, everything wasinvolved. I mean they called those

(49:52):
two the Toxic Twins for a while. Yeah, I mean that's Aerosmith is
such a it's such a unique storywith them. I really cannot I cannot
put anybody in the same category.There's been bands that have gone into a
lull and had a comeback, nothingto the magnitude of Aerosmith. They were

(50:15):
fucking done. They were completely donezo. They were a huge band in
the seventies, and then Boom Drugstook over Perry Leaves the band. They
put out Rock and a Hard Place. Then they put out the shittiest record
ever done with Mirrors, and thennineteen eighty seven hits and they just agree
that, Okay, number one,we gotta get cleaned up. Number two,

(50:37):
we got to have somebody helped writesome songs for us, okay,
because we're just these seventies fucking fossilguys. Man. We need Desmond Child,
we need this, we need this. And then Permanent Vacation hits in
nineteen eighty seven, and it's thebiggest fucking comeback in the history of rock.
Can you even think of somebody thatcomes close you really, you look

(51:01):
at bands, people don't realize thatback in the day, like Kiss,
their first three albums, nothing washappening. Nothing was happening with Kiss.
As a matter of fact, theymight have broken up had they not put
out that a live record. That'swhat radio stations grabbed it, and they
started playing the live version of probablyrock and Roll all night, and then

(51:22):
all of a sudden it happened forthem. Bruce Springsteen put out a couple
of albums. Not a whole lotwas happening until Born to Run hits,
But Aerosmith was big and then theywent away, meaning it's just they just
were falling apart, and then theyhad the biggest comeback ever. Well,

(51:43):
part of the comeback was the runDMC thing with Walk this Way. Yes,
that's what really twisted them in.What was interesting about that is that
neither parties wanted to do it.Nobody Aerosmith was like, are you fucking
nuts? Absolutely not, and theguys would run MC were like, are
you fucking nuts? Absolutely not.Neither party wanted to do it. I

(52:05):
believe it was Rick Rubin to putit together right. It was, uh,
he had to you know, workhis sage magic and do all that
shit and guru stuff and get themtogether and do it, and then it
just blew up both of their careersand that's where their train started to roll.
He did not to use it.Yeah, you didn't. You're not
crying, are you? So Hey? I want to bring this up before

(52:27):
we dive into our top five favoriteAerosmith tunes. Um, we've talked often
about a bio pick, what bandwould make it. I don't think we
ever mentioned Aerosmith. Aerosmith is ripefor the picking. There is so much
shit, so much drama, somuch everything with it. And then comeback,
Man, it would be like theycome You know, there's would be
different because you would have that Westarted as kids in Boston playing in gymnasiums,

(52:51):
and then we blew up to thetop, and then we fucked it
up and then we fell apart andthen we came back and the rap thing
with the run DMC. It couldbe a fucking great story some of the
stuff that's coming out right now,and specifically with Steven Tyler and having that
fucking fourteen year old girlfriend and youknow, going all fucking Jerry Lee Lewis

(53:12):
back in the day. People havereceipts. And you know, I touched
upon it briefly on the air.I said, man, your heroes in
the fucking seventies got away with someshit. You know, Jerry Lee Lewis
wasn't the only fucking creep out there, you know, I mean even even

(53:34):
Elvis the Priscilla thing. You golook at the ages when they met.
Go look at the ages when hemet her. I'm not saying they did
anything. And apparently they waited andall this bullshit. I don't believe it.
You know, we have a historyof just kind of like skirting these
things because there are heroes. ButJimmy Page, those guys did some fucked

(53:55):
up ship back in the day.And he had a little fucking baby girlfriend
and there they are getting the Medalof Freedom from you know, President Obama.
I know, it's so those guys, it's a fucked up shit,
man. They're jamming a fish ina chick. So anyway, mud shark,
there's there's there's a story that StevenTyler had a girlfriend and the parents

(54:16):
signed her over to him, andhe admits this. He said, it's
not like you think the parents signedher over he was her guardian and boyfriend.
Fucking weird. So that's I mean, the seventies were a little different,
man. People were getting married muchyounger back then, I know,

(54:37):
But now people want answers, andI you know, we're in that.
I'm not even chalking this up tocancel culture. I just think people are
finding out about this guy that they'vealways known. I mean, at one
point he was a judge on AmericanIdol. That's American Everybody's living room man.
Yeah, yeah, so that's that'sthe thing. What do you mean

(54:58):
he had a fourteen year old girlfriend and what do you mean is the
parents signed her over to him.That stuff is happening right now. You
know, Steven Tyler is dealing withthat right now. Yeah, that's that's
That's the only one, you know. I mean, what the fuck was
going on with Michael Jackson? Youknow again, right, it's it's it's

(55:20):
a whole nother discussion. I don'tknow if that would stop the Aerosmith biopick
from moving forward, Yeah, Idon't know. It didn't stop Michael Jackson
stories from being made, so yeah, I don't know. But my top
two contenders I think would be becausewe know that there's gonna be a dumb

(55:42):
kiss movie being made for Netflix,so that's already out of it. That's
out of the question. It's notgoing to be a big theatrical release.
Um Aerosmith and I really think thefront runner has to be right now,
has to be Fleetwood Mac because ofDaisy Jones, because of the success of
that. And know it's not likethat was on the tip of everybody's tongue,
but it was so good that Ithink. I look at a guy

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like Alex on my show who watchedDaisy Jones is his girlfriend got him to
watch it, and then he realizedhow much he got into it, and
then he's seeing the parallels. He'slike, Wow, I didn't know all
this stuff about Fleetwood Mac. It'slike, why did this really happened?
They really stood up there and theysang songs about each other and breaking up,
and they this guy forced her tosing this and him to sing this.
I said, yeah, I said, that's a fucking movie. He's

(56:28):
like, yes, that, Iwant that to be a movie. Yeah.
I think Fleetwood Mac would be great. I really do think that's the
movie. What if you did athing? And again we're getting off of
the fucking weeds again. But ourpodcast, what if you did a thing
where like, because there's a lotof interconnected shit in that seventies vibe right
there. You had the Eagles,you had Fleetwood Mac, and there was

(56:49):
a little that was that you couldalmost do a movie on that whole scene,
because the Eagles were a fucking disasteras well in a different way Fleetwood
Mac. You could almost go andput us all this shit together and have
it all culminate to like some bigfestival, you know, like actually,
you know, would be kind ofa cool fucking movie, and you'd almost
have to fake it in a way, as the US Festival in eighty three,
you know, that's where Van Halenplayed. It was like one hundred

(57:10):
thousand people, and it was puton by what Steve Wozniak from Apple or
whatever the fuck it was. Youcould almost make a fake one of that,
like they do with Daisy Jones andthe Six and have all these bands
and tell their stories about getting tothis final concert and all the conflicts and
all the bullshit, beause they allhave their fucking Every day you go to
work is a fucking chore. Idon't want to say in you specifically,

(57:30):
I'm saying in general anybody, there'salways drama. There's that asshole that fucking
cooks fish for lunch in the microwave. There's you know, the guy that
always forgets his tools on the job, or whatever the case. I mean,
bands are even worse because you've gotall these creative, fucking people,
a lot of egos involved at drugsand booze. Every band is fucked up
in a lot of different ways.It's just the way it is. Fleetwood

(57:52):
Mac would be cool. I justto get the sign off of the bands,
then the you know, the businessaspect of it and the music,
and it's hard enough just to getone band right to get on the same
page. And then you're you're tryingto bring together like let's just say you
even focused on five bands, fourbands. What a fucking nightmare to try

(58:15):
to get all those camps to agreeto all of this stuff. Now you're
doing something that's gonna be unauthorized andyou're not gonna get anybody. And Don
Henley is gonna say fuck you becausewe deserve our own movie and because,
believe me, he would be adick. So you're not gonna get you're
not gonna get people signing off onthat ship. They just won't. They
won't, right, right, No, I agree, but a kind of
a neat thing to see happen.And if you can't put all these you

(58:36):
know, if you can't do aone off. But you're right, there's
so much fucking bullshit, all therights to all the music and all you
know, and then of course,you know, what are they gonna want
to show. They want to showStevie Nicks do it a blow for an
hour and a half of the movie. You know, she get that right
out of dude's assholes. I think. Yeah, those great stories about her,
what a great girl. I likeher, and Fanny holes dude love

(58:57):
it. That's gross. Let's neverforget who's listening to this po podcast or
who potentially will live listen to thispodcast. Okay, you know what you
know? Hot take Christine mcveee washotter or Christine McGee she was hotter.
There was something about her, therewas something always hotter. Was she English?
Was she milfy? She was alwaysMilfye the something that was? I

(59:21):
don't I thought she was hotter thanStevie Knicks. Yeah, Stevie Nicks was
the show boat and just all upfront constantly all the time with the scarves
and dance and twirling around and ship, which was fine. It was great
for the band. It was cooland she did it. But yeah,
Christie mcveee was over there v behindthe fucking keyboard, just banging away.
Yeah, I think that's where Igo first. You know, you know
that you don't want to go StevieWolf, tie a fucking board to your

(59:45):
back. Remember who's listening. She'swhish. I wouldn't have done that piece
of information, all right, Um, take the pirates to her. All
right, let's do our fucking topfive arrows. There's a commercial Pirates of
the Quarter dot com. Thanks forjoining us in New Orleans. So do
you agree that there's two Aerosmiths.There's Aerosmith seventies and then there's Aerosmith Dude

(01:00:13):
looks like a lady moving forward right, Yeah, permanent, permanent vacation for
it. And in fact, whatI was going to bring up is the
fact that I didn't know I cameinto Aerosmith and I was the second half
Aerosmith guy. I had to goback and listen to older shit later,
Like I had heard dream on andand that kind of ship. But yeah,
that was all like old to me. The new Erosmith was cool.
I bought Permanent Vacation on cassette setwhen it came out in eighty eighty seven.

(01:00:37):
I believe, yeah, I had, I bought it. It was
fucking awesome. I love that album, but that was my Aerosmith, you
know. I went from there,and then I had to go backwards in
time. The video is the Daughterand Alicia Silverstone and there. Yes,
um, yeah, that that Aerosmithis was silly to me. Yeah,

(01:01:01):
dude, Dude looks like a Ladywas not one of my favorite songs.
I think part of the problem withthat is we've talked about this before,
is that, you know, classicrock. I played that song a trillion
fucking times plus. I just thatJaney's Got a Gun. I hated those
songs. I never liked them,never liked but that version of Aerosmith,
that was really our Aerosmith. That'sour band. Then you know, eighty

(01:01:23):
seven, I'm graduating high school.This it's the biggest album, and I
think it's silly. I find dudelooks like a Lady in love it an
elevator. I find those like goofballsongs they are. It brought him because
of MTV and all of that stuff, and it made them so unbelievably huge,

(01:01:45):
and I went to go see himon those tours that and Pump.
But then I started to get intosome of the older stuff and my sister
kind of introduced me to them too, because that's gonna play into my top
five list because I'm gonna have I'mgonna have like a weirdo song on there.
But yeah, everything that I loveabout Aerosmith because I was in a

(01:02:05):
band, you know, dan inuh Scott. They're a little bit older
than me, and they worshiped.They worshiped, and that influenced the sound
of our band back in the day. And that's how I started to get
into them because they were so intothem. So I had to do this
deep dive because I like, whatare you guys going for here? And
then boom, I started listening toa ton of Aerosmith and uh, never
my favorite band, but always,you know. And they were called like

(01:02:30):
the poor Man's Rolling Stones, andthey they they're they're a great American band.
You know, they're one of ourgreatest American bands of all time.
Absolutely top five American band of alltime, right yeah, oh absolutely,
No. Aerosmith is is absolutely Andtell you why you want to see a
great live band, dude, I'veseen him like four or five times.

(01:02:52):
They do not disappoint live. HolyI mean you are? They good in
no particular order. Beach Boys,Mettall like a Eagles, Aerosmith, and
then you know, you go,you take the fifth one. I don't
care, but I think those fouryou can put Fleetwood Mack in there.
Right. American band, I mean, these are not my favorite bands.

(01:03:15):
These are American bands. I'd saythey're you know, I mean, do
you throw? I mean kiss hasgot the you know, kisses an American
band. There's doesn't get more Americanover the top than that, you know,
right, So, I don't know, but the importance of Aerosmith,
There's just no question at all thatthey are. They are absolute royalty when
it comes to American rock bands,right absolutely, Um top five. I

(01:03:38):
you spent a lot of years inclassic rock, so I imagine you got
burned out on some of this stuff. I did. I got burned out
on a lot of it. Man. It's like, god, damn it
really love it an elevator. Iseriously, you know, it's goofy it
dude looks like a lady. You'reright, it was just it always was
goofy to me. I'm like,really, dude looks like a lady.
That's what we came up with.I mean, there's no doubt that Steven

(01:04:01):
Tyler is clever, but his lyricsthey're kind of dad jokey to me.
Like the song Pink and stuff,it's terrible. He's a word smith and
he puts things together, but it'salmost embarrassingly dad bad to me, some
of the stuff that the words thathe puts together. And I mean,

(01:04:23):
Joe Perry is a god and andand and Tyler is one of the greatest
frontmen of all time. But thereis something hokey about the second half of
their career to me, Yeah,a lot of it was weird. And
uh, you know, this iswhat I'm not comparing the two of course,
but like that's what got Nickel backinto trouble. Chad Kroeger, you

(01:04:45):
know, the first album, youknow, he would write like the heavy
song, he'd write the cool ballad, the hint, and then he'd have
that goofy song and occasionally those wouldcome across on the radio. You know,
rock Star is a goofy song,right, yep and uh, And
they kept doing that formula and thegoofy songs if you were like, well,
fuck you, it's dad jokey andthen and actually Aerosmith got away with
it because it was before all that, you know what I mean. But

(01:05:06):
yeah, I'm a sucker for allthe later stuff though. I like all
the hits. Man, I likethat, Okay, I like that shit.
Well, I think our lists aregonna be very, very different,
so I can't wait to hear whatyou got here. I'll go first,
top five favorite Aerosmith songs. Actually, I go way old school, back
to nineteen seventy seven from their Drawthe Line album Kings and Queens fucking great

(01:05:28):
smile and I don't know why,but that doesn't get radio airplay. But
I just discovered it when I wasdoing a deep dive on Aerosmith years ago
and just fell in love with thattoo, man, Kings and Queens,
awesome fucking song. You gotta goto nineteen eighty nine at number four from
their pump album What It Takes wasmassive. I was in eleventh grade chugging

(01:05:50):
beers from a Keg and that albumwas cranked up. So again, music
makes memories. So yeah, that'swhat's on. What it takes, What
It's sticks, What it takes,very ballad e ish, and it just
kind of rolls and rolls and rolls. A good song. Number that's five
four three, number three from Geta Grip nineteen ninety three and Don't Only

(01:06:13):
Forget to Bring Up nineteen ninety threeGet a Grip the song crying, I
know, cheese fucking, but man, is it a hit. It's a
great song. And the video howdo you go wrong? I mean,
you know, ninety three I'm twentytwo and Alicia's Silverstone and Live Tyler run
around in the video. Yeah,I'm okay with it. I wasn't mad
about that. That was number three, number two, I go Old school

(01:06:39):
Toys in the attic Sweet Emotion.I still dig that tune. Man,
there's something very cool the way itstarts off real slow and just kind of
builds, And there's something very coolabout this I think was that what was
used and it's been using a lotof movies, so it's definitely in dased
and confused days and confused. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so it's one

(01:07:00):
hundred percent in there. And it'salso in Armageddon when they're training and they
go into the pool. Oh yeah, yeah yeah, and you got them,
you know. So they're they're learninghow to the floating and stuff.
So they're here at at Johnson SpaceCenter in they're in the pool and I
think Sweet Emotion is playing. Sonicallyit's a fucking brilliant song. I mean
beautiful. It's just the sonics ofit. It's just it's it's a perfect

(01:07:25):
song. And you gotta think aboutthe year seventy five. It just it
sounds great for nineteen seventy five andthen number one of my favorite song at
least today, Living on the Edgefrom Get a Grip nineteen ninety three.
I was always, uh, Iwas always into that drum section near the
end where it goes it just dropsdown. It's like, apparently, through
my extensive research on this podcast,Steven Tyler confessed to stealing the drum from

(01:07:50):
his high school. It was abig bass drum from his high school that
he had stolen years ago, andit was like, let's use this and
it's just a great sound. Yeah, it's a great fucking sound on that
big drum. So yeah, seeI did go a lot of them were
had. Three of my five werethe second Wosmith Phase two so I wrote

(01:08:11):
so, I wrote down, Iwrote down Living on an Edge, not
in my top five, that ismy favorite. So it was your number
one. That's my favorite Phase twoAerosmith song. It feels like it's got
a seventies They feel like they threwback on that one because the way he's
screaming and shit in it and stuff. There's nothing hokey, there's nothing goofy
about it. It's just a reallyreally good song. Yeah, not good

(01:08:33):
enough to be in my top five, but definitely from their MTV era moving
forward to present, I think that'sthe best thing that they wrote for sure.
Um So when I got into Arrow, you know, my sister comes
up all the time on this podcastand how she just that three year difference

(01:08:53):
was a huge difference musically, andI think with her Columbia Records and tapes
or whatever, she got aeros SmithRock and a Hard Place, which was
not a good time for Aerosmith.Joe Perry is not in the band.
There's a guy in the band thatJoe Perry thanks in the Rock and Roll
Hall of Fame. Induction ceremony,thanks him for you know, like filling

(01:09:15):
in and quitting or doing whatever.Somehow how Tyler and Perry got back together,
but from that album, which wasa horrible album. The only thing
worse is Done with Mirrors after that, but there's a song on there called
When the Lightning Strikes, and thatwas my introduction to Aerosmith. You know,
I'm sure classic rock who was youknow, was playing some stuff and
dream On was on, and I'msure I heard of Aerosmith, But listening

(01:09:39):
to a song over and over againWhen the Lightning Strikes off of that album,
it's amazing, and it's it's badbecause there's no Joe Perry on it.
So that's my number five. Mynumber four is Toys in the Attic,
the title track. Really absolutely loveToys in the Attic and the chant,

(01:09:59):
the call, the response and allof that, and I think I
think Joe Perry just fucking shreds onthat. So that is my number four.
My number three is Sweet Emotion.Yeah, again for everything that you
said and that I said, Ithink that song just the sound of it,
it just I don't think it soundsold. I don't think it sounds

(01:10:21):
like an old song. It's reallyweird to me. And the one thing
that is different about that song isTyler doesn't go up to that high register
in sweet Emotion. He just singsit. Yep. Normally he likes to
flex and show you where he cando and yea God and doing all that
shit, and he doesn't do thaton that song. And don't get me

(01:10:42):
wrong, I like when Tyler doesthat. I like him stretching his voice.
He's got an amazing voice, buthe doesn't do it on that song.
And I think that's one of thereasons why I really like it too,
because it sounds different sweet emotion thenuh Kings and Queen's in at two
from Draw the Line and my numberone all time favorite, which they still

(01:11:05):
do live every show. Lord ofthe Thighs. Yeah, my absolute favorite
Aerosmith song nineteen seventy four from GetYour Wings, Um. Lord of the
Thighs is just the fucking groove ofthat song. I don't know that it
was released as a single, butI think they play it every live show.

(01:11:28):
I think it's a it's a staplein their live set. Fun fact
the Breeders Cannonball, I know youknow that song yeah, play it.
The B side is a cover ofLord of the Flies. No way,
I'm talking about a real B sideto the forty five, right, Yeah,

(01:11:48):
they did it. They did acover of it. So they do
a pretty good cover of that song. Yeah. Back in the day.
See, Aerosmith had the whole packagethat when you think about it, man,
they had They had all of it, man, And then they had
the great logo, you know thatthe wings and shit and the A and
stuff, and I mean they justhad the whole thing. Um. What
I wanted to bring up was theirsecond phase. They were one of those

(01:12:11):
bands that kind of slid through andwas still getting a lot of airplay,
mostly because of MTV. You know, Get a Grip was ninety three?
What the fun was going on innineteen ninety three? What we've talked about
to death on this podcast is grungeninety one gets going, you know.
But there were still some of thosebands, like Van Halen had an album
that was out still being played onthe radio. Their four Unlawful Cardinal Knowledge

(01:12:32):
album came out I believe in ninetyone. Maybe this was being played so
you still this wasn't the end game, you know what I mean? The
Aerosmith was still getting through. Butthen after that, I think that was
it. After Get a Grip,I think that was that was kind of
where that fell off for them.As far as airplay, they had achieved,
but they had achieved a level thatthey were they could just stay there.
They you know, they were theywere going to play arenas moving forward.

(01:12:55):
After the success Permanent Vacation, Pumpand what you said, Yea,
then that solidified they don't have todo anything else. They're they're going to
play arenas forever. That was it. They didn't need that's it. They
had already done enough. Their catalogwas just stupid, and they were already

(01:13:16):
one of the great American rock bandsof all time. The best come the
greatest comeback ever, you know,because it's just the best comeback ever.
I mean, I know that peopleare gonna say, well, what do
you think about you know, thetransition from Roth to Sammy Hagar. It
wasn't come back. It was adifferent thing. It was a different thing.
It was a different singer. Andthat needs to be said about Aerosmith.

(01:13:39):
Except for right now with Joey Kramerbeing out, that band has stayed
together. I talked about you know, Joe Perry left the Joe Perry Project.
Stuff I didn't I couldn't get into. I did pick a song from
Rock in a Hard Place. Butthink about that original lineup. That's everybody

(01:13:59):
in the bay. They're all originalmembers. They figured it out somehow.
That's insane. Yeah, that's insanitythat you know, from the bass player
to the rhythm guitar player to themain guitar cup everybody, they're all original
players. You know. They playedjazz Fest a few years ago and my
son was with us and I said, dude, I said, you're about
to see a clinic on how fuckingrock and roll is done. I said,

(01:14:20):
You're about to see a goddamn clinic. He's like, what do you
mean. I go just watch.I go, just fucking watch. How
unbelievably cool these guys are. It'shard to get. I don't love Aerosmith,
but there was a moment in timeand I think, I don't know
if it was dream On, Idon't know. He starts off with the
piano. I forget which song itwas. They bring out this huge white

(01:14:41):
piano way to the front of thestage and Tyler's sitting down playing it and
he's singing, and then it kicksin and fucking Joe Perry comes walking out,
steps up on top of the fuckingpiano and just shreds the solo,
hair blowing, fucking gold chains andscars. And I'm just sitting there going
like that. That is about ascool as you're ever gonna fucking see it

(01:15:03):
done right there? Yeah, Imean so fucking cool. Slash after he
gets done. After Slash gets donewith November Rain and he walks up and
steps on the piano when that song'sover, he should go to the side
of the stage and fucking make outa check to Joe Perry mail it to
him. Every time he steps ontop of that piano. He should send

(01:15:25):
a check to fucking Joe Perry.You're right. I never thought of that,
you're right, But Joe Perry.He worships Joe Perry. Like I
said, I think the Rocks album, which is why we're doing this.
We're celebrating what forty some years ofthe Rocks album nineteen seventy six. They
released Rocks so forty seven years agotoday, and I know that I've heard

(01:15:45):
Slash say that that was one ofhis formative albums. So they just influenced
everybody. They influenced everybody. Yeah, and one of my favorite Saturday Live
moments of all time was the Wayne'sWorld and they worshiped with Aerosmith showed up
and you've probably remember seeing it,and Tom Hanks was on that episode and
he was their roadie and he's settingup and the whole band ends up in

(01:16:08):
the basement with Wayne and Garth andI just remember watching it that night,
going, holy fuck, this isunbelievable because that's what Wayne's World were at
their peak. Powers Errol Smith wasback. It was like the coolest shit
that ever happened. Tom Hanks isthe roadie. He gets on the mic
and he's like check check sibilants,sibilants one. Two. He says,

(01:16:30):
sibilants sibilants. It says the mic. It's the funniest fucking thing ever.
It's one of the great all timemoments on Saturday Night Live way because you're
like, you know, if you'rea Wayne's World fan, you wanted that
to show up every week, andwhen it did, you were excited,
but you knew they always wanted Arrowsmith. When Aerosmith walked down those fucking steps,
and that shitty basement. You're justlike, oh, like you've felt

(01:16:51):
it. You felt it for thoseguys, You're like, no way.
So yeah, Errol Smith again notmy favorite band, but a clinic when
they're on stage, and I'm hopingthey pull it off on this tour.
I hope it really goes well forhim because I want to see even go
out big. You know, they'replaying Dallas, they're playing Austin, they're
playing San Antonio. Jesus, They'renot Houston. They're not playing Houston.

(01:17:14):
How I don't know. Their drummeris from Houston. The guy that's filling
in the drum tech, he's fromHouston. Again, they're not gonna play
it because of him. They're notgonna just come here, but they're not
playing here. It's infuriating to me, you know, because I want to.
I do want to see him onelast time. Stephen Tyler is fucking
seventy five years old, seventy five, can still fucking sing his ass off

(01:17:40):
and still can move around. Um, just the elephant in the room right
now, they're Stairway to Heaven hisdream on. Neither one of us had
it in the top five. It'sa fucking amazing song. It's an amazing
song, It's great. Why isit not on either one of our top
five lists? Did? I workclassic for many many, many many years,

(01:18:00):
and it's one of those things it'sjust I cannot It's just been beaten
into my DNA and I'm like,I can't, I can't, I can't
do it. It's like eating oneof the egg of cookies. You don't
want to eat those fucking favorite cookiesafter a while, you know. Maybe
my favorite top five lists in thehistory of this podcast was best closing songs
in a movie, And the onethat we both missed was Miracle. The

(01:18:26):
Miracle on Ice movie yea, andthe closing credits where they show the guy
and who played him in the movieand they're playing and they're playing dream on
and the closing credits and it's oneof the best fucking closers ever, And
neither one of us handed on ourlist. No, why would we do?
And it just still I didn't putit in my top five. It's

(01:18:51):
Stairway to Heaven. Yeah, it'sIt's America's Stairway to Heaven. Yeah,
that's a good one. That thatis true. That is I would agree
with that. Yeah, absolutely absolutely, we should do a We should really
do a top five. Maybe wehave. I'll have to go back and
check our notes, but a topfive frontmen, I don't know if we've
done that one, you know whatI mean? A top five frontmen of

(01:19:13):
all time would be a beating becausewe would there would be a four hour
podcast. You gotta ask Jordan Welchin the Machine Hill. Now we have
to take that his spreadsheets out,I guess and get all that straight now.
But anyway, Yeah, no,that was good. I have to
I'm gonna spend some time listening toMarroosmith this week for sure. Now that's
what I wrote down. I wrotedown Angel crying amazing, don't want to
miss a thing one song. Yeah, but I do like Angel. I

(01:19:38):
always liked that song. It wasalways cool. But you're right, they're
all basically the same song. It'sone song to me. They've got in
the ballot, but they were,they were still playing the formula. They're
still doing the formula. Gotta havethe ballot. You gotta have the song
where the chicks are going to showup to the concert, then the dude
show up and everybody makes a tonof money, so they were still following
the game, Rod, I thinkwe wrap this thing up, man.

(01:19:58):
Any final thoughts, yes, ifanybody is still listening, my gift to
you, my final thoughts is googleStephen Tyler's feet. Oh no, no,
don't do that. There you goit. That's it. That's it.
That's my gift to you today.If you're still listening, google Steven

(01:20:24):
Tyler's feet, Okay, and thenmaybe you'll understand a little bit better why
this is going to be their lastfucking tour. He's got some feat there
could be we could almost do ourown version of the reaction videos to the
two girls one Cup. Remember thatvideo and then the thing that came out

(01:20:48):
after that was just videotaping people watchingwhat they were looking at. Yep,
the reaction. I really think wecould do a whole series of reactionary videos
of people googling Steven Tyler's feet.Yeah, yeah, he's got elephant man
feet. They're they're gross. Itjust meant it. That's it. Help

(01:21:08):
yourself if that's something that you youtrust me enough to go and do what
you got For final thoughts, nothingI can tell you what I'm not gonna
do is Google Steven Tyler's feet,just do it. I won't do that.
You know, you want to Enoughtrauma in my life. I don't
need any more than any Get inthere on those toes, looking in between,

(01:21:29):
getting the goods out of there.Yeah. Hey, check us out
on the YouTube channel. We putthis up on YouTube every week at play
pants Pod. On our social media, leave your comments about your ghosts and
your top five favorite Arrowsmith tunes.Um. Yeah, I love hearing people
chiming because then I'll go, oh, I didn't remember that. When I'll
go and listen to it and tellyou. Man, I I've said in

(01:21:49):
a thousand times, but I lovedoing this podcast for the sure fact that
it's selfish for me. I getto go discover songs I didn't know about.
You know what I mean. It'sit's really on that way, like
you bring up some and sometimes youwin, sometimes you lose. Still stuck
on Harry Styles. I actually heardthe song the other day and I was
like, God, damn it,Rod, Thanks Rod, Thanks Rod.

(01:22:11):
Like I'm I'm a little bit sweeton old Harry Man. Now he was
somebody I would go see. Iwould like to see him perform. I
think Harry be great. Yeah,it's a million dollars a ticket. It's
one million dollars per ticket to gosee that fuck face perform live. Hey,
you'd be nice to Harold. He'sgot to buy those ones. He's
suits, he wears diamonds on him. So anyway, dude, all right,

(01:22:33):
well we'll talk for episode eighty fivesomewhere in the future. By everybody,
thank you. Let's go find uswherever you listen to podcasts, see
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