Iron Maiden top 5. Worst cover songs. Goonies.

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Would you like to start? Idon't even know how to do this.
Let's go all right, here wego Episode eighty eight to the Playpants Podcast.
That's Jason Ginty. My name isrod Ryan, and I don't remember
the last time we did one ofthese. It's been a couple of weeks.
Beach Boy over here finally came offthe sand and said he wanted to

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do a little podcast, so Isaid, okay, I'm down for it.
So this is Podcast eighty eight.He's got all this mystery ship for
me today, but he totally hadme at, Hey, you want to
do a top five Iron Maiden songs. Well, yeah, one of my
all time favorite bands, so ofcourse I want to do that. I
want to talk about a movie thatcame out today in nineteen eighty five,

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and then I want to bore therest of our audience with a bunch of
Buffalo Bills bullshit. But man,for the first time ever, a Buffalo
Bills player is on the cover ofMadden E a sports Madden. I don't
know what it is, but JoshAllen's on the fucking cover of a video
game. That's the biggest thing youcould possibly do. Yeah, yeah,
no, it's cool, and heactually I follow on Twitter now because why

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wouldn't I? And he said,hey, this is a lifelong dream.
And I'm thinking to myself, beaton the cover of Madden is a lifelong
dream. But isn't he dating what'sher name, Haley Stanfield? I don't
see. You know, Tessa onthe show kind of keeps up with that
bullshit because he had a girlfriend rightthat he was with for a long time.

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And then she's the one that toldme, hey, I think your
boy cheated. I said, Idon't care. I don't care. I
don't because she really likes him.And then yeah, this Hailey Steinfeld or
whatever, I don't know what he'sdoing. I don't care. I really
don't. You know, I'm notwatching vander Pump Rules. I just I
don't give a shit about that.But I am excited that a buffalo bill

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is on the cover. And that'sthe biggest thing that can happen to you.
And when we were getting ready forthis, you mentioned something about,
well, you know, do wehave to worry about any kind of a
curse? Well, I mean sayingthat you brought it up. There used
to be, but the last twotimes that Mahomes was on the cover.
He won the Super Bowl, SoI think we're good. Oh that's right,
okay, because I always heard aboutthe whole Oh you know, once

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you're on the mad thing, that'sit. Jay winning shit. Ever again,
you're done. You know that wasa thing for a long time.
For sure, it was. Butum yeah, yeah, there's been some
really like great stories of the guythat's on the box cover having a great
year. I want to say,there was an MVP the Ravens quarterback.
So I think those days are over. So I think it's we're back,

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unless unless we buffalo it and thenwe start bringing back the curse, which
you know, hey, I'm justsaying, you know, Buffalo does it
sometimes all And I said, andI said that I didn't want to bore
our audience with a ton of Buffalobillshit. But man, Damar Hamlin had
his first full practice I think today, And I saw that all over the

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internet today, and that's amazing.I mean, the dude died on the
football field and now he's back playing, um fighting for a spot on this
Buffalo Bill's team. I don't seehow they couldn't sign him, but apparently
they say he's fighting for a rosterspot. So pretty damn, pretty damn
exciting. M I kind of thoughtthe movie would be out by now,

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and it's not, so I don'tknow what's taking so long. But I
mean, wouldn't you think they're gonnado something with that? I mean,
there will be what writers strike?Dude, writer strike, ain't nobody happen
doing? Okay now, So there'sthat, and then maybe kind of waiting
to see, okay, does hecome back and play does he have a
you know, a really good seasonafter you know, having the absolute worst

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happened to him? But yeah,I do think that there's a movie in
the works for sure. So that'sit. I don't want to talk any
more Buffalo bill stuff. I justthought those were two really really exciting things.
You were at the beach. Whatbeach do you go to? I
go over to a Pencacola, Florida. It's like a three hour drive from
New Orleans and it's a simple driveand you're there in no time and it's

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pretty mellow. It's not super busy, just enough. Like when I go
to the beach. I don't likea lot of people go to the beach
and they'll they'll hang for like twohours and they'll go shopping, go out
to dinner, and just do allthat shit. When I go to the
beach, I'm there for one reason. Count ways, dude, I don't
do shit the whole time I'm onthe beach to look at the water,
panelboard, surf whatever, hang out, fish, all of it. If

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I'm at the beach, I'm beaching. I don't go shopping. I'm do
shit all so you don't look overlytan. So you're and that's a good
listen. I know you think bustingballs right now, but we can't be
this. We cannot be in thesun, and that we can't have these
domes in the sun. It lookslike you must have used a lot of

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I mean, for a guy thatjust got done telling me that you're at
the beach the whole day, you'renot super tan guy. If anyone's watching,
you want to see you know,his pasty white ass. He looks
just as pasty as ever after aweek at the beach. But you can
watch this on our YouTube channel.But you're covering up and you're doing I
mean, now you're being smart.I'm a freak. I'm I like,

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for the last I don't know.I would say at least ten fifteen years,
I've been very good with the sunscreen. Okay, I you know,
think about growing up, jen X, Dude, did you ever even have
sunscreen in your house? Anything overSPF eight? Sister and my sister and
my mom were in the backyard andthey baby baby oil. Yeah, baby
putting baby oil, my mom babyoil in the back you know, laying

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out in the sun. And I'lltell you what, and I'm glad you
look the way you do. I'mdoing much better because I've got the kid
and she's fish belly white like me, so I've got to like slather her.
So I'm like, okay, wellI'm putting it on her, I
may might as well put them onmyself. Bunny, How you say that,
because I would, I just say, for the last fifteen years or

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so, I've been pretty good aboutsunscreen. Well's your kid almost because he's
gonna be fifteen. And then ofcourse my daughter the same thing. She's
much older. So really I've beena lot better because of my kids.
And that's what really came from,because it was all about but put some
sunscreen on the kid. If yougo to check the mail, with your
kid. You gotta lay them upwith sunscreen. So I've gotten better.
I got a tan, I'll situnder it for quite a while. I
spend a lot of time that way. You know. I got a little

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tan, but nothing crazy. Itain't like the old days. Dude.
You gotta be careful because I goto the skin doctor once a year and
they're like, oh, looks goodman. I'm like, thank God for
that. And then you know,I'm you go to those skin doctor once.
From that point forward, you're alittle freaked out, so you do
a better job. But I I'vebeen good with it. So while I'm
at the beach, right, I'mhanging, it's me the wife, kid.

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And then we had different family memberskind of in and out throughout the
week we were there. In lawscome in, in law's bail, you
know, brother in laws in,brother in laws out, and my brother
in law, you know Gabriel right. He actually and I think he was
giving us a compliment. I don'tknow if he was or not, but
I'm pretty sure it was. Hesaid, listen, I listen to every
episode of your podcast, you andRod. He goes, Oh what exactly?

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I go? He goes, Hegoes, what's really cool about it
is he goes, I've hung outwith you guys before, and he goes,
your podcast for me is like hangingout with you guys, but I
don't have to talk. He goes, it's just like hanging out with you
guys once a week. He goes, I dig it. And then he
went on and you know, anytimethere's some sort of a compliment, especially

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from a family member, somebody you'reclose friends with, your you know the
here it comes. You can seeit, dude, you can feel it
in the air. And I'm like, and I'm thinking to myself, all
right, what's next? He goes, what's fuck? Man? How come
you guys never talk about Iron Maidenall you all you guys talk about his
kiss man Hail and Food Fighters andChris Cortnell every episode. And I'm like,
holy shit, he's right. Soit's him. So he's the reason

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we're doing the top five today.So I go, dude, I'm gonna
do a motherfucking Iron Maiden up foryou this episode. Are you one hundred
percent sure? I know the answers? No, did you even think to
look? I know the answers?No? Did you even ask Jordan Welch
in the Machine. The answers,no, you one hundred percent that we've

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not done and Iron Maiden Top five. I couldn't tell you. I just
figured we'll do it again, whatthe hell? And I'm sure, I'm
sure it will change. I'm sureif we go back and do any of
the lists we've already done, they'regoing to be different. I don't think
we have. I don't think wehave either, because it seems like that
one would have been a monster,because you know, it's a huge band.
We've we've talked about them a fewtimes. The whole rock and Roll

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Hall of Fame, which I donot want to get into again. Um
comes up and then you get allmad you just brought it up. I
know, I'm an asshole, abitch. It's not why we're here.
It's not we're here so we're hereto not talk about the Foo Fighters.
Although that new album is pretty good, we'll get we can talk about that
later. Um so and then youknow van hand Now I'm kidding, but
yeah, it was funny to hearhim say the compliment. I think it

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was a compliment. Was like,the podcast is just like hanging out with
you guys and I don't have totalk. That's a nice compliment. I
go. I think that's good.I'm not sure, but he has hung
without with us before, and he'sseen the stupidity that happens when we do
hang out. So I guess it'sa cool thing. I don't know.
So I thought we'd do the IronMain thing. I know you've been wanting

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to do it. You've mentioned afew times. I love it. One
thing about Iron Maiden is I amnot I'm not the super fan like I'm
a fair weather fan of Iron Mayne. I've got a bunch of songs I
listened to. I got a bunchof songs I like. Yeah, I've
never seen him live, which Ithink is terrible. Want. I didn't

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know that about You've never seen yah? Right? Friend off? Fuck me,
man, friend off, dude,Wait a minute, you've never seen
you and I. We've never goneto Iron Maiden. We were out of
Buffalo and they didn't exactly come arounda ton and I was pretty young when
they were in their peak eighty youknow, early eighties years, you know

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what I mean. I never sawthem then, obviously, and then later
on it just never happened. Idon't know if they didn't do as much
or whatever, you know, becauseyeah, I don't know. It's just
never the dots never connected. It'sonly I don't want to go see them.
If they came around, I'd belike, shit, yeah, I
got to see him before, Ican't. You know. I have seen
Iron Maiden eight times. Holy Jesus. Yeah, they play about. They

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come around like every three or fouryears, and I go see them,
and I go see them on afucking school night, bro, So that's
always kind of uh for well forme, like, oh, how much
do you like this band? Well, okay, ask me if I would
go see them during the week.There you go, yeah, you know.
I mean you two. I wentto go see them during the week,

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Iron Maiden during the week. Everybodyelse No, um no, I'm
gonna ask you. What's your listof bands you would go see during the
week on a school all night whenyou know you gotta get up at fucking
three o'clock in the morning and feedthe chickens. There's a bunch. I
mean again, because I've seen IYour Maiden seven eight times. If they

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came during the week, would Iskip it? Maybe? I don't know.
They're so great live. The thingabout Maiden is they'll go out on
tour and they'll come up with theirset list and then that's what they're doing.
They create their set list for thattour and they don't give a fuck.
If you love Aces High, they'renot doing it. Okay, run

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to the Hills, they're not doingit right now, Like I think right
now their set list Run to theHills, you're thinking, how could you
possibly not do that song? Theydon't give a fuck. Okay, they
have so many songs and they doplay new stuff. So what they were
doing years ago was every other timethey would go on tour, they would

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tour on a new album. Theyplay the shit out of that new album
and then play some old stuff.Then the next time they go out on
tour, it was all like greatesthits. So you'd almost go see them
every other time for a while there, right right right, And they do.
They're a band that plays a lotof new music though when they have
a new album out, and totheir credit, people buy their new stuff.

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Iron Maiden and ac DC are thetwo old rock bands metal that people
will go out and buy their newstuff and and and absorb it and like
it. You know, Rolling Stones, when they were going out on tour
all those years they did put outan album, nobody gave a shit,

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no um, But Maiden puts outnew music man and they play it live.
You know what's interesting about Maiden,and you've brought this up before,
is that they when they do goon tour, they're playing either arenas or
stadiums around the world. And you'vegot to keep this and it's funny because
of what we do for a living. Nobody plays Iron Maid on the radio.

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They get basically zero radio play inthe United States. There's gonna be
your House of Hairs, the dSnyders, and the Eddie Trunks of the
world that will play some Maiden.But I couldn't tell you too many radio
stations that are playing. I couldlook it up and tell you that there's
very little Iron Maide airplay, andit's been like that for years. Yet
they haven't no problem. And likeyou say, I think that's one of

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those bands that just doesn't give ashit. They don't care about the Rock
and Roll Hall of Fame, theydon't care about radio airplay, they don't
care about fucking playing their hits ina concert. And yet look at their
success, look at everything they have. And one of the reasons why is
because fucking great, great musicians.It's unprecedented, because they're big all over

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the world Like Queen, Like theQueen was bigger everywhere else but here in
the US. They were bigger everywhereelse, and they were pretty big here,
but they were bigger elsewhere. IronMaiden is just huge all around the
world. They play these massive venuesand sell out all of them, and

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and they've done it year after yearafter year. So that thing that we're
not bringing up, that you've saidat least four times already, for the
love of God, why are theynot in there? Okay, I know
they should be, and again theydon't give a shit. So what do
you attribute to how have they doneit successfully without doing it in a traditional

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way? Just is it just thatthey created such a fan base from the
early days, right, and theyhad a lot of smashes and hits and
stuff in the eighty two albums.The for those albums in the early eighties
they had they were stacked, andthey were touring hard, and then they
just you know, after that,did you really pick up a lot of
Iron Maiden after that, you knowwhat I mean, Like, was it
because of that era and it juststuck. That had a lot to do

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with it. But the Maiden fans, like I said them and ACDC fans,
they will go out and buy theirnew music and like it. And
like I said, ingested, Ithink Iron Maiden they figured out the matrix.
They never overtoured, but they certainlydidn't undertour. They toured perfectly where

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you know what, man, it'sbeen three years. I do want to
see Iron Maiden again. They now. Keep in mind, if they're only
coming around to us every three years, they're busy elsewhere around the world.
So I think they just kind offigured out the absolute perfect to not oversaturate

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themselves because I mean, we allknow there's a lot of I mean bands
do nothing but tour now, youknow, I mean nothing. For all
I know, Bush is playing heretonight, I don't know, I mean
probably are because they played every week. They played, they played a couple
of weeks ago. But you know, um, that's what bands do,

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I mean. And then you've gotyou know, guys like Dave Matthews band,
who's not an international guy, butyou know he goes out and you
know, that there's people that gosee Dave Matthews band every summer, right,
and so he's kind of tapped intohis audience. Your maiden being this
international band, you only get tosee them, you know, every three

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or four years, and it's justbuilt up enough that it's like you can't
wait to see them again. Andchances are they probably did put out a
new album in that time. Soit's there's something there though, there's a
secret sauce or there's some weird thingbecause it's not done the normal way,
because you know, you look atand I was just thinking, as you're
talking about this, I'm like,well, look, you know, Motley

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Crue and def Leppard are out nowthey're together. It's two bands. Neither
one of these bands could do thestadium things without the other. Right now,
you know, you're just not definitelynot playing stadiums. Molly Crusher shit
isn't playing stadiums because they've comboed withthem and Poison and god knows who else.
I don't know if they're selling thesestadiums out, but it's still a
stadium and you're still doing okay.But Molly Crue has had a song and

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you but they still get a shipton of radio airplay on classic rock stations,
so they have that going for them. If any of those guys are
playing instruments anymore, I don't knowwhat the fuck's going on with that band.
And I'll say this about Iron Maiden. They sound good. Dickinson can
still sing his ass off, andit needs to be said. They look

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really good. They're fit, they'rein shape. I mean, Steve Harris
and Bruce Dickinson look like they couldgo out and fucking play like a soccer
match and stay in there the wholetime. I mean, they're fit,
and they're moving around on stage andthat really helps because they look so cool
still like they look great. They'reold guys, man, but they look

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amazing and they still move around onthat stage. And the songs they sound
really good live, and they stillthey put on a show. You know.
It's it's they're not fucking you know, you're never gonna see one guy
in the bay and standing there staringat his shoes, you know, I
mean not everyone's got their own thing, you know. Obviously, Bruce Dickinson
is running all over the place,and Steve Harris got his fucking long hair

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and he's got his he's got hisfoot up there on the monitor and he's
playing base. But I mean,just they just put on a show.
You know, you're waiting for Eddieto come out, like you've never seen
them. But at some point duringthe show, an eight foot tall Eddie's
gonna come walking out on stage,and you don't know when, you know,
it's just they had these different elementsand right out of the gate they

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got this fucking old time airplane youknow, first song, Dude. They
just they're a throwback to what thoseold shows used to be, Like they're
still doing those types of shows,Like howdo all those means used to do
these huge sets? Maiden still doesthe huge sets, multiple layer stages,

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you know, looking up some shit, and you know, you got to
keep in mind that Bruce Dickinson isa fucking enigma. Like he's in one
of the biggest bands in the world, rock bands of all time, right,
I had made that pretty obvious.Probably one of the best metal bands
of all time. The dude isan airline pilot. Flew for an airline
company, flew his own, flewthe what is it ed Force one,

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the Iron Maide airplane for a coupleof years on tour. It's like an
Iron Maiden seven forty seven. Hewas flying. He's like, all right,
boys, we're gonna go to thenext city and burrow. Okay,
I guess the singer is gonna flythe fucking thing. And that's what he
was doing. He fences competitively.He's a fencer. You know, He's
written multiple screenplays and books and shit. This dude ain't sitting around doing nothing.

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He ain't just singing in a rockband. This dude's a He's unbelievable.
He's kind of like David Lee Rothwithout the big mouth. You know,
Roth is like that. I mean, you know, Rothel wants to
learn how to paint. He'll goover to Japan and study underneath somebody for
six months to learn how to doit and then get tattooed. And I
mean, you know, David LeeRoth is kind of like that. He's
just a little bit you know,goofier where it needs to be said.

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Bruce Dickinson is a cancer survivor too, so yeah, I mean that's probably
the biggest battle of his life thathe conquered and he's out there singing his
ass off right now. Well,there's that. By the way, Gabriel,
sorry about the David Lee Roth referenceduring Iron Maiden talk. Oh I'm
so guys upfront for that one.Sorry man, But anyway, may we'll
cut this part out. Um.But Roth is one of those is a

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renaissance man, you know, heabsolutely is, you know, but he
buffoons the shit out of it.So that was to make it. Yes,
that's what makes it hard. Um. And did you get I know
you're a big pinball guy. Didyou know they had a pinball machine came
out in twenty eighteen, Legacy ofthe Beast Iron Maiden Pinball. I hat
that one yet, Shit, Idid not know that, nor did I
need to know that. You doknow, m there's not gonna be a

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lot of them later on, Ibet I was online looking at that Foo
Fighter one and I it's just it'sa sickness, like I can't do the
you know, introductory model. Igotta do like the high end one.
And then it was already up toI don't know, sixteen thousand dollars.
No, no, no, no, no, no, I'm like,

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I can't. I don't, Idon't need I don't play the pinball that
I have that much. And there'sthe Foo Fighters reference without even try and
see. Sorry, sorry Gabriel aboutwhile we're really bombing on this one,
dude. UM, So yeah,then well we'll get to the top five
Iron Maiden favorites minor pretty much thehits. I'm sorry, man, but
that's what I know. But hopefullyI'll be enlightened on some deeper tracks.

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But before we get there, right, I don't know. You probably saw
this this week. A thing cameout on what is it? Classic rock
dot Com? Classic Rock Daily dotCom. I don't, it doesn't matter,
and they kind of ran down alist of the worst cover songs like
like classic rock songs, redone moderntimes, um, like a good one,

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not a bad version? Is theship we're gonna do this? Don't
because because my brother also brought upthe fact that we, you know,
we love Chris Cornell so much sohis version of Guns and Roses Patients I
do as a fucking great cover song. Okay, he smokes the shit out
of that song. One of thebest cover songs of all time. And

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I've said this before. I likehis version better. That doesn't mean I
don't like the Guns and Roses version. I just happen to like his version
better. Where I've got into itwith people is shine Down and Simple Man
brilliant. I'm sorry, I'm youknow what, fuck off? I'm not
sorry. It's better. Okay,it's better than Leonards geared, It's it

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is, it's better. Sorry notAnd you know what's great is I And
I'm not a big Leonard's Kinders fanbecause God knows why, but I like
Simple Man. I like their version, but I really like shine Down's version.
I really like it a lot.You know. So those are examples
of good rights. Okay, soI think of like shitty ones. I'll

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give you one that you're gonna belike, oh yeah, fuck. Remember
when Mick Jagger and David Bowie diddancing in the street. The video is
embarrassing, the clothing is of thetime. What else you need to know?
They look ridiculous. David Bowie shouldn't. David Bowie was just cool,
right, like he would need todo this then White Duke and he would

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kind of hang out and he,you know, Mick Jagger does all the
Mick Jagger stuff, and Bowie kindof tried to do that. I was
embarrassed for both of them. Iwant to it's the worst cover song of
all time? Is it number oneon that list? It's really not in
an order. I think it probablycould be. I remember going back that

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came out in mid eighties. Ithink that White played in the movie theaters
like in between or like they've used, they played that video of that song
and then it went into a movieand I can't remember what it was.
I'm just thinking of this now,but yeah, I think I saw the
movie theaters back in the eighties whenit came out. But yeah, even
then, I'm like going played itbefore or Turner and hooch Um. Yeah,

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now that i'm thinking about it,the worst cover songs of all time?
Do you remember during the pandemic whenWonder Woman tried to get a bunch
of celebrities to sing imagine just thiswas just dumb. It was fucking idea.
Everything was bad about it, right, and nothing good about it,
And they got dragged a little bitfor being I mean, listen, I

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didn't think that was warranted. Ido believe when somebody's intentions are are good,
I gotta give them a little bitof a pass. Right now,
These these are celebrities. They're outof touch, you know, we're all
struggling during the pandemic and whatever.Um, it was horrible and I don't
know. I don't know much aboutthis Wonder Woman chick, but she got

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all these people to sing on thissong and it was so bad. Yeah,
I think her, like you said, her intentions were great. And
my god, I do love WonderWoman. But yeah, that was a
fell good. Oh yeah, yeah, she's awesome. I like her.
She's that's got to go down asone of the most all time worst cover
songs ever. And if she cameover here, you know what I would
do, tell her straight to herface so I wouldn't mind. Yeah,

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I would. Oh it's so good. Can you sing for me? Now?
The Cure does a version of PurpleHayze. I did not know this.
I have not listened to it yet. The Cure doing Purple Haze.
I'm gonna check it out because Ihave a curiosity. This could be interesting.
I'll tell you what. There weresome good musicians in the Cure.
When did we go to Page Plant? You and I? Yeah, they
played here in New Orleans. Yeah, I believe we did. They were

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no in Buffalo. I don't rememberPage Plant in Buffalo. I feel like
we went to that show maybe,and I want to say the rhythm guitar
player might have been from the CureUm. There were some good musicians in
the Cure Man so again, andnobody on the level of fucking Jimmy Hendrix.
But I just don't know how thosevocals would work. Yeah, did

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they slow it way down? Imean I didn't have a chance to listen
to all this shit, but okay, I will check that one out.
The Cure doing Purple Haze. Punchedthat up when you get a chance.
After the podcast it was over.I didn't know that you two did a
version of Credence Clearwater Revival's Fortunate Son. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, I've heard that. AndI, oh, what was it?
What was it on soundtrack or something? Or yeah, I feel like it

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was on some compilation I got youfarm made or something or I guess it
bad. I don't remember it beinghorrible, to be honest with you,
Okay, okay, coming from afrom a YouTube fan, and you know,
Bono doesn't really make a whole lotof mistakes to me, so I
don't remember it being horrible. Icould see because the message is all about

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you know, war and why doyou send the you know, the poor
after the war all that thing.Um, I can see him why he
chose that song and maybe there wasa reason behind it. But oh yeah,
like I mean, that's in Bono'sspace to do that, like the
subject matter, like he yeah,it's not out of character for him.
Hey is this I'm thinking of thislist that that you're talking about? Was

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was Disturbed sound of Silence on there? I was getting to that in just
a second. Yeah, that onewas on there as a bad cover song,
And I'm like, are you wrongfucking high? Because that is unbelievable.
Now I'm don't get me wrong,I'm sick of it. Okay,
David Draymand can sing his ass off. Um, Disturbed is not my favorite
band. That cover that was oneof the ones that I fought to get

(27:30):
played on my radio station. Um. I had to convince radio wizard.
I go, dude, this iswe have to be playing this. Um,
it's it's amazing. I would sayI would say that it would be
on the list of all time greatcovers. Yeah, I don't agree with
that one because I think that thatone is a home run. I mean,
that's one of the greats you know, and again, you know,

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the Simon and Garfuncle is great,but man, I could listen to this
one any day, you know,and just the way he builds the vocals
and at the end of it,he's grinding his vocals and it's badass and
he's hitting the notes and you're like, holy, because you know, every
Disturbed song is the same song.It really is. And I like Disturbed,
don't love him, but I likehim. This is way different and

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he nails it and he gets achance to stretch his voice a little bit
and you can hear how how theatricalhis voice can be. Yeah, yeah,
I think it's I think it's anall time great cover, even though
I'm absolutely taxed on it because wehave played it, We've played the shit
out of it. It's you know, I gotta remember, it's like,

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Okay, it's your fault, Rodthat we're playing this song fifty times a
week for what you ask free yearsat least three years, four years.
Yeah, it's a few years old, though there's two from a certain band
that I don't like or hate him. Limp Biscuit did George Michael's Faith,
which really kind of put him onthe map. I love that song.

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I knew you did. Yeah,I love that version. I think it's
great. I think it's because sofor the top, So the other one's
got to be behind Blue Eyes.Yeah, and I didn't mind that one
wasn't great, but it wasn't okay, that was what the fucking speaking spell,
yeah, which I thought was clever. It was weird, it was
all right. Um fucking faith isamazing. I think I think it's I

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think it's amazing, I really do. That's that's another one that it's an
all time cover song for me.Yeah we done. Have we done our
favorite cover songs of all time?That sounds like something we would have done.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure we have, but we could go. I'm
sure. I'll tell you what.That's a top ten for me. That's
a top ten cover song. Andit's on the list of shitty ones.

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Yeah, yo, yeah, thisis the list of bad ones, according
to Classic Rock Magazine or Classic rockdot Com. With the fucking all right,
give me a few others. Igot, I got three, I
got two more, three more?All right, we'll do Marilyn Manson doing
Sweet Dreams. They say it's terrible. I fucking it's fucking great. It's
awesome. It puts him on thebows. It's awesome. You know.
Um, Okay, here's one,and I think you like it. I

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know I still like it. I'llthrow it on every once in a while
in a mix when I'm chilling.Uh Saturday Nights all right for fighting Nickelback
featuring kid Rock. It just fuckingsmokes. It smokes. People love the
ship on Nickelback. I'm not herefor it. I'm not here for it
at all, Okay, I meanfifty million albums, Shut the fuck up.

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Yeah, it's I think it's agood version. I like it.
It's it's way rock and it's fuckingin your face. It's good. And
then this one for the kids.Um, if you've seen Shrek, you
know this song, smash Mouth,the monkey song. I'm a believer.
I don't love right, but they'relaughing all the way to the bank on

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that and uh all Star, andthey have three Shrek songs. I guess
I don't know, but man,they made some money off of Shrek.
They had some money off of thatfucking green booger dude, whatever he does.
Uh yeah, I mean smash Mouthis smash moth. I mean they're
smash moth. I don't know whatto say about them. They're nice guys.

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I'd say that Steve is a reallynice guy. But they are what
they are, and that song isperfect for them. You know what,
we did the top five cover songs, because that's where that Chris Cornell song
came for up from how's the soundcalled? I fucking played all the time
still stay with me, baby,Yes, that's where that came from.
That's where that lit up. AndI didn't hear we were talking about Chris

(31:32):
Cornell against them, So that wasin my top five cover songs of all
time. And you're like, whatsong? I go, dude, the
last song no one sings like youanymore. I go go and listen to
it. Don't even say another wordto me, Just go listen to this
song. Yeah, and I did, and I still listened to it all
the times. It was fucking great. Yeah, it's so good man.

(31:56):
So so yeah, I just wantto throw those ast you because like those
are cliff sucks and uh yeah,well, you know you gotta get clicks,
dude, you gotta get clicks.So I just put up a just
on my own. My sister andI we we love cover songs. And
I know you know the band theHeadstones, Yeah, from Hamilton, I
believe Ontario, And they did theEdmund Fitzgerald and I'm gonna I'm gonna just

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throw this out. I hate givenyou homework, but I'm gonna just I'm
gonna I'll send it to you.And they just they changed it so overall.
I mean, just as a sweepingremark, would you rather them stay
true to the original or completely reimagineit as themselves, which we're thinking that

(32:46):
maybe the cure? Did you know, just what's your preference? I mean,
well, I guess it depends onhow it turns out. I know
that's I think it should answer.But if you look at what Chris Cornell
did with Patience, Okay, it'spretty much there, but he ain't doing

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the Whistling Ship, and he didchange some things around. I think he
did it enough to make it kindof his own. I think he did
up things to improve it, atleast in my opinion. But there's a
lot of respect for the original,absolute respect. You know. I'm trying
to think of another version that's reallychanged something. You know, Marilyn Once
we just talked about Marilyn Manson didn'treally change it. He just took signing
his own fucked up voice. Youknow, Limp Biscuit didn't change shit really,

(33:31):
just heavier dancing the street. Theydidn't rearrange that shit. I know,
there's a million songs they like slowedway down. Well again, I'm
sorry, Gabriel, but I'm gonnabring up kiss. So there was a
kiss my Ass album, Love thatthat came out a long time ago.
Garth Brooks did hard Luck Woman,which he kept that one pretty true.

(33:53):
But whatever song, Toad the WetSprocket did Rocket Roll all Night. They
Toad the Wet sprocketed it and theyreimagined it, made it theirs and it
was such a ballsy move that Iliked it. Okay, it's great.
So the Edmund Fitzgerald, The Reckof the Edmund Fitzgerald. We just lost

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Gordon Lightfoot recently, and he's aCanadian icon. There's a Canadian band out
there called the Headstones, and Iimagine in Canada, you know that's kind
of in that stairway to heaven probablyyou know. The Wreck of the Edmund
Fitzgerald. It's a big, bigsong, and they changed the tempo,

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they changed a lot, and uh, and Sue didn't like it, and
uh and I said, listen toit a couple more times, and it
just didn't grow on her. Butit was an example of a band taking
a song and taking a chance andsaying, Okay, this is how this
is how it plays through our lensand our filter, and uh, you're

(35:02):
right. Sometimes it works and sometimesit doesn't. What's the un It'll come
to me. Jimmie Hendrix did BobDylan's song and completely changed it. Not
but Bob Dylan, Oh what thefuck was the song? Um, Jesus,
I'm an idiot. I've only playedit ten trillion times on the radio.

(35:22):
It'll come to me in a minute. Bob Dylan does the song originally
do some kind of way odda yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,
said the joker to the thief.Right. So he just took it,
sped it up and put the guitarsouls in it and change it. Made
his own. He really changed Dylan'sversion, kept the lyrics the same and
stuff, rearrange it, made ithis own, so that I thought was

(35:43):
way better than what Dylan did.You know, there are examples of that,
so again, it's gotta it's gottawork. I mean you mean one
of the greatest songs of all time, the song Hallelujah. Okay, right.
You know the guy that did thesong, Canadian dude, Leonard Cohen.

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He's the lou Read of Canada,so he kind of like talks and
sings at the same time. LikeI can't stand it. Yes, and
I do believe it's one of thegreatest songs of all time because he wrote
it and he performs it. Butwhen Jeff Buckley did what he did to

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it, he took one of thegreatest songs ever written and made it one
of the greatest songs of all time. Yep. Jeff Buckley said, this
is how I hear this song,and this is how it should be done.
And that is always my argument whenpeople give me shit. You know
about simple man, A cover canbe better than the original. Some people

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just feel, well, it wouldn'tbe possible, Rod, if the original
didn't exist, the cover wouldn't exist. You're right on that, but it
doesn't. It still does quench mythirst. You're not You're not making sense
to me. The cover can bebetter than the original. You know what,
you evolve you get better. Sometimesan idea can be expanded on no

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one's You know, you can writea great song, could be a perfect
song at that moment, someone elsecan come along and have a different opinion,
different viewpoint of it, and go, oh, you know what I
would do instead? I would dothis this and this and this and this,
and then boom, you're like,oh shit, that is way better.
Look at hound Dog from Elvis Presleyto go back that that was an
old Mama Thornton song, an oldhuge black woman used to sing it,

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and she sang it real slow andit comes from her being pissed off at
her. Dude, you ain't buta hound dogs. He's out playing around,
you know what I mean, Andhe takes it and spins it around
a whole different song, you knowwhat I mean. So there's a million
examples now that I'm thinking about them. Just depends on how it works,
because there are some shit ass examplesout there too that don't worry. Madonna

(37:59):
does a version of American Pie fuckingshit, It's terrible. That was shitty,
and then I never I And wetalked about Lenny Kravitz a couple of
podcasts ago, maybe the last podcastAmerican Woman. I just I never understand
why people liked it so much.I don't like the original song either.

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I mean, I'm just not afan of it. I just didn't think
that he did anything special for itto be one of his biggest hits of
all time. You know, yeah, yeah, it's weird, you know,
you being Canadian and all, andthen not like the original of the
guests who were from Canada. Youknow, I can take that from the
fucking idiots on my show, notfrom somebody that grew up twenty minutes from

(38:44):
me, Dick, that makes meCanadian two. I guess it's about Canada
on this program. Apparently we've we'vetalked about everything that I wasn't supposed to
bring up twice as much. Don'tever complain about this. We will fucking
go back on an art. Yeah, what are you gonna do? Uh

(39:06):
yeah, anyway, I guess Igotta go listen to Purple Hayes from Cure,
and I gotta go listen to FortunateSon from You two, just to
see how bad they are, becausethat that that could be some more homework
man. And then, oh,by the way, it's all along the
watch Tower for the guy that's callingin right now, going on. Don't
you guys know the name of yoursmusic over there? You know, I'm

(39:27):
not, I'm not the biggest fan, but his name was already brought up.
Uh, what's his name that Ijust said? Plays every summer.
Dave Matthews. He does a prettygood version of All Along the watch Tower,
and he'll do it. He'll doit live occasionally. That son of
a bitch doesn't care about playing singles. That son of a bitch doesn't care

(39:47):
about what he does live. Buthe will do that a lot. He
does play that a lot. JohnnyCash doing Hurt pretty good. Johnny Cash
doing Hurt fucking didn't really change it. Took all the fucking industrial shit off
the nine inch Nail's version, butmade it more painful, like really made

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it painful. Unpopular opinion. Notas good as the original. No,
it's great. It's great, everyoneloves it. Johnny Cash's Rusty Cage' is
fucking badass too. Not as goodas the original, it's just not Hurt
is amazing. The video, theblack and white, the super close up

(40:30):
of his face, everything about it, you know, brilliant because it's such
an old guy at the time thathe does it. Uh, it was
amazing, amazing. Not as goodas the original, you know, you
say it's not as good as original, but you know what it did for
me is that I did love it, and I still love it. But
it made me go back and appreciateher because I never was a huge fan

(40:50):
of Hurt. I'm like, dah, this moby shit and then he fucking
hits a guitar at the chord atthe end. I'm like, what the
fuck did you see that performed live? Oh? Well, that's a whole
different game. That's the best fuckingshit you're ever gonna see. You saw
Nine Inch Nails performed that song live? Yeah, yeah, okay, a
game changer, man. That's whatdid it for me. That's a game
changer man. Yeah. So anyway, that's another version. But but but

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Johnny Cash's version and then seeing itlive made me go back and appreciate the
original Hurt from Nine Inch Nails.It's weird, I know. Yeah,
let's take a quick break and thenI want to come back and talk about
real quick. I want to talkabout a movie that came out on this
day in nineteen eighty five. Iwant to see what the movie means to

(41:34):
you, and then we'll get intoour top five Iron Maiden songs. Yeah.
I like it, dude, Ilike it. Well, next time
you visit New Orleans, man tomake sure you book the Pirate Tour.
I was walking around New Orleans acouple of weeks ago. I was looking
for some pirates. It's a FrenchQuarter walking tour. There's a bunch of

(41:55):
walking tours in New Orleans. Isaw a million of them. This one
is a little bit different, man, because you're discovering like real pirate history
of New Orleans, and you'd beamazed at like how the pirates their involvement
with the formation of the city.It's unbelievable. Book your tour Pirates of
the Quarter dot com. And there'sa great merch shop now Pirates of the

(42:19):
dot com. Okay, they've gotthey've got a page up with the T
shirts and all the stuff. Piratesof the Quarter dot com kick ass t
shirts for sale. If you're headingto New Orleans anytime soon, anytime over
the summer, man, book yourtour. They are highly rated. I
mean I see the high ratings allover the place. Everything is at Pirates
of the Quarter dot com. Followthem on social media at Pirates of the

(42:43):
Quarter. I was out the weeklast weekend and doing a tour and I
had a group of people on thetour from Scotland. And what's interesting about
giving a history tour of an oldcity here in the United States of the
New Orleans is when you're you know, you're out there in ninety eight percent
of the people who take tours arefrom the United States, you know.

(43:05):
But when you start doing a tourfrom Europe, you're like, oh,
yeah, this building was built inthe seventeen seven it's super old. People
from Europe are just going bullshit,fucking that's a baby, yeah, I
know. And you're like, ohyeah, thirteen hundreds over there, and
shit, it's funny. Yeah,you know. New Orleans celebrates, you
know, they recently turned three hundredyears old, and people in Europe laugh
at that. They're like, oh, you guys are so cute and new.

(43:28):
You still got your diapers on,right, you still got your diapers.
Right over to my house, alittle pirate boy, I got a
nice castle you might want to seeacross the street from my house. Seventeen
seventy bitch, I'm drinking in barsfrom the eleven hundreds. Shut up.
It's just funny to think about theperspective. Dude, on this day in
nineteen eighty five, Goonies came out. Was it a big deal in nineteen

(43:52):
eighty five? Yeah, I don'tthink, you know eighty five with am
I fucking like six No. Eightyfive? I don't think I saw it
in the theaters. I think Iwas a late bloomer to the Goonies.
I came to it years later.All my friends were talking about it.
I remember that I saw it.I loved it. You know, I'm

(44:12):
fifteen years old. I go tothe theater to see it. It's a
big deal. It was a bigdeal. I remember them. I remember
the TV commercials and it really madeit. They must have run them when
fifteen year olds and kids were watchingtelevision. You know they're going to target
those times, Saturday mornings. Theymust have run it during fucking wrestling.

(44:34):
I don't know what I'm doing atfifteen, but man, this was on
TV all the time. You neededto see this movie, and it was
the summer and everything. Dude,nineteen eighty five, mind blowing. Okay,
So Goonies comes out today in eightyfive. Also in nineteen eighty five,

(44:54):
Mad Max and Thunderdome, Wow,Breakfast Club, Back to the Few,
Sure, Fletch, Cocoon, Peewee, Rocky four, Real Genius,
which is an amazing movie. Idid not see that in the theaters.
No Better Off, Dead, FrightNight, Return of the Living Dead.

(45:14):
Those are a few of my favoritemovies of all time. That's nineteen eighty
five. What a fucking year,man, what a crazy year. I
was just they wanted me in nineteeneighty five. They wanted me in the
theater. That's what you're cool about. That's what's cool about all that shit.
Well you they wanted me, yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll think

(45:37):
about the Goonies though, man,Like those kids are all where they ten,
twelve, fourteen, So if you'rein that age bracket, you're like,
that's me and my buddies, Likewhen you saw the Goonies. Like
even I showed my kid a coupleof years ago Goonies. I'm dude,
you gonna watch this movie. He'slike, oh god, it's from the
eighties. It's gonna be dumb.I'm like, no, it's gonna be
kind of dumb. And he's watchinghe's laughing his ass off because he could

(46:00):
relate to the age group. Now, yes, the bikes and the clothes
were a little bit different obviously andeverything else, but same concept. You
and your dopey buddies getting together,nosing around where you're not supposed to be,
and next thing you know, you'reoff doing a fucking adventure. How
many times would you do shit likethat? It never kind of went that
far. Yeah, you could sorelate to that shit in the movie.

(46:22):
And I didn't know this, andmaybe you do. I was just here.
I was just listening to an interviewthe other day and someone said,
there's like this lost scene from TheGoonies that it's this octopus scene. Oh,
I don't know this. It's cutfrom the movie. It's out there.
I'm sure it's on YouTube somewhere,but apparently it's this cool scene or
it's something with an octopus that theycut out for whatever reason. I don't

(46:45):
have any damn details, but I'mlike, okay, I gotta bring this
shit up. So never seen it. I'm sure it's out there. I'm
sure you can go find it.I don't know the backstory on it why
it was cut out, but youthink you went to go see Gooney's in
the theater. I don't think so, because I'd have been like thirteen.
You know my parents, you know, if we're gonna go to the movies,

(47:06):
we're all going to the movies.And when I'm thirteen, you know,
my brother had been like ten,so it had been a family thing
and my mom is probably like,I'm not gonna go watch that. I
just thought of it. You knowwhere they advertise the shit out of it
MTV. That's what it was becauseCindy Lauper law the Gooney song, So
there was that tie in. Imean, Cindy Lauper was as huge as

(47:27):
it. You know that, youknow she was massive. You know that
she the wrestling thing before that andall of that. So there's no doubt
in my mind that Gooneys was caught. That commercial had to run non stop
twenty four seven on on MTV.Uh you know, at an eighty five.
That's probably the channel I'm watching themost if I if I have the

(47:49):
TV on, I'm watching MTV.If I had cable at that time.
Finally we did. Yeah, Idon't know, dude. I used to
go to my gramma's house until Imight not have had MTV yet. I
don't remember when we got it,but we got it late. Did Canada
get cable before this? You fuckoff dude? You grew up twenty minutes
from me. If I'm Canadian,you're fucking Canadian. Okay, go leaves,

(48:13):
bro Let's go drink some of thebats. You're out there on the
beach drinking straight, drinking straight maplesyrup. Bitch. You know, I
gotta be honest. I've become amaple syrup snob. Oh geez, you're
a Canadian, more Canadian than Iam, Jack asked, I mean,
go I got the maple leaf onthe front porch right now, flying hanging
out there. Um, No man, I used to just buy the NJ

(48:36):
of mimer or whatever and squirt thatshit on there and that was good enough.
No man, I got turned outof some like decent syrup. It
tastes way different, It tastes waydifferent, way better. Anyway. Let's
talk some iron Maid, dude.Come on, you're the expert on this,
on this band. I I cometo it from a fair Weather fan.
I love him, but I've neverseen him live. And my top
five is gonna be pretty generic.It's gonna be pretty much hit driven or

(49:01):
you know, most popular song,because what I know. We'll go out.
Then let's roll through your hits,because I mean I got hits.
I mean I got hits on mylist. I'll start with number five,
going back to nineteen eighty three's Pieceof Mind, the Flight of Icarus Love
great song, great fucking song,will slower, but I like it.

(49:22):
Going back to Power Slave eighty fourtwo Minutes to Midnight. It's a fucking
great song first of all, greatsong, but it freaks me out because
it's like two minutes to midnight,like that that clock moves and you're like,
you start fucking getting in your heada little bit. Man. You're
like, oh man, shit,this is heavy. The doomsday clock.
The doomsday clock. Yeah, freakingme out. It's nineteen eighty four.

(49:47):
I don't know what the fucking doomsdayclock is. No idea. Iron Maiden
is smart. They're very smart.They go to literature for these stories.
You know, they're not singing aboutlike these metal topics of the time.
And it's so different from Judas Priest. This was like intelligent. I mean

(50:10):
the music it wasn't like math rock. It was just metal, but it
came from a place of intelligence.These guys were well read, they knew
their ship, and they were prettyyoung, you know when they were writing
these things. This is going allthe way back to the first Iron Maiden
album. They're smart guys, man, They're well written there. I mean

(50:30):
a lot of this stuff, Flightof Charus, these are based on These
are literary stories. Yeah, theyjust spun off of them and made their
kind of their own thing or kindof told their story in their own way,
which is brilliant shit. And youknow what you think about it now
you look back and go, oh, yeah, well that's brilliant. At
the time, there's just a bunchof long haired dudes with a fucking monster
eddy dude crawling around the stage.You know, that's what you looked at,

(50:52):
you know, and it was shreddand guitars and high screams, and
you're like cool. But now whenyou listen to it with a different ear
and you listen to the lyrics,you're like, shit, this is really
good. Smart Yeah. Nineteen eightythree Piece of Mind, the Trooper,
Come on, the Trooper dude,fuck not even goes listens Iron Maiden Tonight

(51:12):
probably the wrong thing to listen tobefore bed. That's arguably their best logo.
I mean, we should have foughtover album covers on this one too.
The Trooper. That's where Eddie it'sgot the British the flag, it's
all tattered and torn and he's likewalking through the ruins and you know,

(51:34):
like in a battle on a battlefield. And that's their beer too, which
you know, I'm not a bigbeer snob. Of course it's cool to
drink Iron Maiden's beer. But what'sbadass is being in London and on tap
at the dude at the pub's Trooperon tap. Oh that is cool,

(51:58):
Yeah, that is cool. Youknow, that's going back to our earlier
conversation about Iron Made is like what'sthe secret sauce? Well, they kind
of like nailed everything. They goteverything right because their artwork, their album
covers back when you bought shit onvinyl, still in the early eighties,
the album covers were pieces of artand they used Eddie and they just changed

(52:20):
Eddie and all the different stuff overthe years. They just whatever their theme
was that album, he would adaptthat, but it was still Eddie all
the time. You know, youcould not wait to what they were going
to do next, like, ohmy god. And then on the album
covers, the guy that did theartwork, I can't his name escaped me

(52:42):
right now, but he used kindof like Prince, he used the symbol
for his name. And just likethe Playboy Bunny has always hidden on all
the covers of Playboy magazine. Maybesomebody's learning that for the first time.
Every Playboy magazine cover has the rabbitears on there somewhere. Sometimes it's really
hidden, sometimes the girls wearing aneck list. But you would on the
Iron Maiden album covers, you wouldlook for his signature and he would hide

(53:06):
it. Oh that's cool, likea circle with an arrow beneath it.
I used to be able to drawit, but it was always hidden somewhere.
And that'd be the first thing.Iron Maiden had a new album out.
You'd go to Cabbages or Record Townor whatever ams in Canada, yes,
and Stam the record man, andyou'd grab that record and you would
just start stare. You'd start looking, where's the fucking artist's signature? So

(53:31):
cool, But those are the littlechunks of secret sauce that they they had
the whole thing figured out, youknow, they really did going back to
earlier conversation like that, that's whatmakes sense to me. Number two,
Run to the Hills, what agreat story inside of that song too.
At first time, back in theeighties, when I heard it, I
didn't know what the fuck was about. I'm just like, yeah, run

(53:52):
to the Hills. And then Istarted listening to lyrics, I went,
oh, shit, driving the Nativesout. Wow, this is big,
this is heavy ship. So right, going back to your other point,
intelligent music, it really was.There is number one, the number of
the beast. Dude, come onsix six six. It was the scariest

(54:13):
shit ever. That was awesome.That was the absolute scariest shit ever.
And that was truly something that andMotley Cruz shot at the devil. Yeah,
probably the only two times that mymom said what the fuck are you
listening to? You know, withall the Aussie and all the kiss and

(54:37):
everything else. I do believe thatthe only two times my mom was kind
of like, what the fuck ishappening over there? I mean six six
six, and everybody just assumed thatthey were Satanist, you know, and
then of course that's you know,that was the they got kind of strapped
with that and you think about thetime period. Okay, that comes out.

(54:59):
Number of the Beast comes eighty two, so it's popular in eighty three.
You know, Molly Cruise with thatcame out eighty three, so you
had shouted the devil. It's likethe same time periods. You that might
have been the thing to kick thewhole metal thing into the satan stuff.
You know, really, do youthink about those two songs being out relatively
close? You know, people accusedBlack Sabbath of getting into the occult and

(55:23):
stuff like that earlier page even,but but these two songs back to back,
like you said, that's a lotof satan shit all in the same
like year and a half time period. Yeah, there was a lot of
devil coming to the forefront at thattime. And Ronnie James Dio you know,
hell yeah, and the parents,like I said, those two songs

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because there wasn't you know, theWalkman hadn't come out yet, so there
wasn't personal listening. It's hard toget across to somebody that's a little bit
younger. Whatever you were listening to, other people were hearing what you were
listening to. That's so if you'rehere, it's six six, Yeah,
like, I'm fucking playing the cassettein my house and my Mom's like,

(56:06):
what the fuck is on the youknow, it's my mom's stereo. I
was like, what the fuck ison my stereo right now? Are you?
Are you playing that backwards or isthat forward? That's forwards. That's
that's how I was supposed to be. My Sorry, I'm fucking where's my
devil horns? We're painting some shitand we're putting some things in the backyard.
Yeah that and shout at the deviljust what and then you know,

(56:28):
shout up. She looks at thealbum cover and she's star is Christ a
pentagram? And then these guys allpainted up. I mean, she's already
you know, she was cool withkiss My mom liked kiss Um, but
those two songs uh being played inthe house at a high level. Um.

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That was the only time my momever seemed a little concerned about what
I was listening to, you know, just sitting here talking about it right
now out loud. It's like youstarted doing the math and you can see,
you know, like we said,Ozzie Dio, you know Motley Crue
six six, you know the numberof the beast all in that same time
period. You can tell who IMetal just fucking had it fed to itself

(57:10):
and it was all circumstance. Nobodywas plotting it out. No, Bruce
Dickas is not calling a fucking Nikkisix going, dude, you gotta release
that song, Shout of the Devil. We're gonna fuck with everybody. It
was just luck. It was plusof course, think about it. You're
sixteen, seventeen, fifteen years old. You're gonna gravitate to this shit.

(57:30):
You know, it's what you're allabout. You know bad? Oh it's
bad. Parents hate it. Well, then I'm gonna love it. Yeah,
I'm fourteen. The Devil's very hot. I'm fourteen years old. Devil's
very very hot at that time,very hot. Really, I wonder why?
All right, Well there's my fivesongs, top five favorites from Iron
Man. What you got man?I want to hear this. Okay,

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So number five The Trooper Piece ofMine. You'll take my life, but
I'll take yours. Two I meanyeah, Peace of Mind is the first
cassette that I wore out, meaningwow, I had it had snapped a
couple of times, I had gottenout the Scotch tape. I had gotten

(58:15):
the pencils. You could take thescrews and you could. You could perform
a full on surgery if you hadto. You could take a cassette apart
in half. Oh yeah, thething was taped up so many times,
Jason, I had. It's thefirst time I ever bought here's my little
piece of trivia, the first pieceof music I ever had to buy.

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Twice peace of mind because I woreat the cassette. I wore it out.
I played it so much. Andthat was the first casset I owned
that was an x DR. Itwas a chrome looking cassette. X DR
stood for Expanded Dynamic range. AndI'm going to talk about the little sound
effect beforehand because that's coming up onanother song. All right, So the

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Trooper uh in a number five,in a number four Run to the Hills,
Yeah, is the quintessential Iron Maidensong. And for for me,
for it to be a quintessential IronMaiden song, you gotta have Steve Harris
dogtoon digetoonett getting and he's just fuckingHe's humping the whole time, digetting,

(59:22):
dieting, he's trotting, he's trottingon his bass guitar, and he does
that on a million songs but itnever gets old. And he's you know,
he's the chief songwriter too. Butwhen he is doing that, Run
to the Hills is quintessential Iron Maidensound to me, And a lot of

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it has to do with Steve Harrison on his bass and the way that
he rides the bass. And what'scool about that song is because of what
it is, the Run to theHills, the way the tempo is it
feels like a horse galloping, yes, really does. And it's just it's
it's it's one of those songs.Everything works. It's his bassline, do
Do Do? And it's and thatguy has never even heard the word pick

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fucking fingers doom doom do you do? And know, like Geezer Butler,
these guys they use a pick.You know, I can't imagine somebody's fingers
moving that quickly. Get to watchSteve Harris play the bass is unbelievable.
I know we did best bass players. I know that we probably both had
him in our top five as wellas like gees or Butler and stuff.

(01:00:27):
Because these guys they're just unbelievable attheir at their instruments, um so a
number four, Run to the Hills, number three, Iron Maiden, the
name of the band, Iron Maiden, the name of the album, Iron
Maiden, the name of the song, last song, and that's what their

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original singer. I feel. Ifeel like I had to grab something from
the first two albums. So asmuch as I mean, I love Bruce
Dickinson and he was the perfect guyfor the band, but you can't discount
those first two Iron Maiden albums becauseyou still got Steve Harris, you still
got the whole band. Um butPaul Dionado or something like that. What's

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cool about it is this is howyou know it's Steve Harris's band. They
still do songs currently on tour theyplay Iron Maiden by Iron Maiden. I've
never I've never not seen him playthat. That's from the very first album.
A different lead singer, a completelydifferent era of the band. But
for Steve Harris, it's all IronMaiden, you know, for him.

(01:01:37):
You know, they do Rathchild fromthe second album. They do Running Free
off the first album. They theythey do not they know that the fans
love and this is another thing addthis to your why are they so successful
because they know the fans want tofucking hear that stuff. Okay, and
you know Bruce is a far superiorsinger, but they don't pretend that those

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two albums didn't happen. There's greatstuff on those albums, and I don't
know, I just felt like,if we're doing a top five, I
mean, how many bands besides IronMaiden and Motorhead have songs with the band's
title for unique black Sabbath, BlackSabbath, and Black Sabbath. You're right,

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that first Iron Maiden album is borderlinepunk. It's really cool to see
the evolution of how they were cominginto themselves. But they're that lead singer
man, he was a Skinhead likefour years before he was an Iron Maiden.
So there's it's a very it's apunk influenced metal rock album, those

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first two albums, Iron Maiden andKillers. I wanted to mention something off
of there, So that's number threein at number two. Back to the
cassette, Peace of Mind expanded dynamicrange. You would put it on and
it would go boo. Do youremember that? I do remember that.
That's crazy not but you had tohave a certain cassette. You had the

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x drs and and I think theyprobably charged it. They dinged you like
a dollar more because it was anexpanded dynamic range. And I mean,
if you think about it, theshittiest audio you could possibly get. Well,
eight track was probably worse, right, but cassette was the worst audio
quality. But it was so portable, it was so great. Ye,
So they they led us to believebecause you know, you probably when you

(01:03:31):
were doing all your little home recordingand stuff back in the day, you
bought those chrome tapes, right,yeah, absolutely chrome. Oh I'm putting
this on. Oh I'm going torecord this. This is going on my
chrome tape that I got it radioshack. I'm gonna put it on this
high quality piece of tape, andI don't play it out of my shitty
boombox that I've dropped off my bikeforty times. It's gonna sound right.

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I just got a three pack ofBASF chromes. I got me some techniques.
Yes, they're gonna sound fucking grey. So TD that's what it was.
TV case case. Those were big. Those were expensive too. That's
all I'd ever get though, becauseI cared about the quality. So for
Iron Maiden, it wasn't a needledrop. My first Iron Maiden wasn't a

(01:04:14):
record. My first Iron Maiden wasPeace of Mind in eighty three, and
it was the cassette expanded dynamic range. They've got a brand new drummer in
the band, Nico McBrain. Theother drummer was great, but you put
on a cassette, Oh, thisis an xdr and then you hear,

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holy shit, they got a fuckingnew drummer. Why don't you fucking open
up the song and why don't youlet everybody know that you're in the band
now. The first song on Peaceof Mind is where Eagles Dare, and
it's fucking amazing, and it's allbecause of that drum intro. So little
Rodney Ryan gets his cassette, goesdown in the basement and just practices for

(01:04:57):
hours to try to do it.That guy, probably, Nico McBrain,
probably influenced me more on the drumsthan any other drummer. There's people that
would say, well, it wasNeil Pierre did this for me, and
this drummer did this, and thisNico. Nico was my biggest influence by
far, my number one wasted years. Oh I did forget about that from
Somewhere in Time and it's it's it'san interesting song because the subject matter it's

(01:05:24):
not literary, and it's not theDevil and it's not it's it's about them
being out on the road and kindof missing home and too much time on
my hands. You got to realizethat you're in the Golden Years. Why
does it sound so different? AdrianSmith wrote it. He wrote the song
and he wrote the lyrics, andit's it just it's it's unbelievable. It's

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it sucks because Steve Harris should havethe number one Iron maide In song on
my list, but Wasted Years hasalways been uh, since it came out,
Power Slave, since it came out, or No, Somewhere in Time.
As soon as that came out,I was like, this is my
fucking all time favorite. It's sucha great it's such a great song.
And it's just it's them. Theydidn't sing about being a rock band,

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and it was them singing about beinga rock band, and it was really
weird subject matter for them. Wellthat's what most bands will sing about.
If you notice, you know,it's like if you're stuck on the tour
bus, you get a right wayyou know, what do you know,
sitting on a tour bus and beingout in the road, missing your dog
and your goldfish and your family.It was kind of like their up tempo
Home Sweet Home, you know.It just it was weird that they were

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singing about stuff that normally I didn'tunderstand. I had to go look up
their songs, you know. Iused to do that. You went to
the library and you're going you'd lookup the stuff, like what is Iron
Maiden talking about? Right here,right right right right? I think,
you know, it's funny. I'mjust thinking about this, and then you
know, you go back to whatI believe it was eighty four, maybe

(01:06:53):
eighty three, when did Bill andTed's Excellent Adventure come out? I guess
what I'm getting at. I wasn'teighty five, so it might have been.
It might have been the year before. It was in that wheelhouse and
that mid eighties deal. But theyhad a funny bit where like they go
back in time and if you haven'tseen the movie, spoiler alert, oh
boy going back in time by usinga fucking souped up phone booth. Okay,

(01:07:15):
whatever, They go back in timeand then they get there back in
whatever year it was and they werefucking up. So these guards are like,
okay, put them in the IronMaiden, which is a torture device,
right, and they're like excellent.They do the little guitar and they're
like, yeah, I'm like theIron Maiden reference and all the rock star
references in that movie. Great.I just have to think of that now.
Sorry. Yeah. Even the nameitself is like, it's a historical

(01:07:39):
thing. It's an right, Agreat fucking name for a band. Pretty
awesome. I mean, it's justit's iron, it's metal, it's heavy,
it's fucking thick, it's dark.It's awesome. So you mentioned that
Henry's fourteen. Yeah, yeah,yeah, So Piece of Mind comes out

(01:08:00):
when I'm fourteen years old, Jesus, and I'm fifty three and I'm talking
about a piece of music that Ibought when I'm Henry's age. Crazy.
Is there something that he listens tonow that he loves and super passionate about
that he's going to as a fiftyyear old man, say, man,

(01:08:21):
I remember this and I still loveit. I mean, I know everything's
different now. I don't know,I mean, are we just I don't
know? I mean we didn't haveas much he's got. He's got so
much coming at him. Yeah,but this is what I had coming at
me, and this is what youhad coming at you. In nineteen eighty

(01:08:45):
three. I'm fourteen, I'm Henry'sage. Okay, I'm on my second
piece of mind cast at Pyromania defLeppard, That's where I come into.
That's where I find out about defLeppard. Okay, Bark at the Moon
cassette, Shout at the Devil cassette, Quiet Riot, Metal Health, Yeah,

(01:09:08):
okay, number one, um Ratlast in line. Nice dude.
What a fucking year that I'm like, I'm in, I'm in heaven,
I'm fourteen years old and just thismetal I'm showering in it. It's fucking

(01:09:30):
pouring over me. Yeah. That'spretty amazing to have something that you like.
It is just coming at you likea fire hose. Yes, over
and over and over again. Butyou know, it's pretty spectacular. You
talk about you know, where doyou where are you going to formulate what
you like for the rest of yourlife? And you know, I gotta
say this era right here and thenwhen you and I were kind of going

(01:09:53):
through that whole thing with with grungeand the you know, the the takeover
of alternative music. Those are probablythe two most important times of my life.
You know, I'm I'm twenty twoyears old and I'm fourteen, fourteen
years old. It doesn't get fuckingbetter than all the shit that I'm listening
to. And I'm just wondering,you know, is Henry going to take

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this stuff? Or is there justtoo much of it? Is there's too
much of everything? Because the onething that's different, and I'll let you
answer, is I made up mymind that I liked this genre and I
liked metal. And kids don't careabout they like everything, you know what
I mean, Like, you know, Henry might. You know, it'd
be very cool for him to likethe new Taylor Swift album. It doesn't

(01:10:35):
matter. Kids don't care. Youdon't get picked on for liking different things.
Back when we were kids, youhad to choose a lane did and
I had to stick with it,you know. So I just told you
what my favorite stuff was. I'mfourteen years old. It's like, fuck,
it was all you know, rockmetal, whatever you want to call
it. I was kind the sameway, you know, I was into

(01:10:57):
all the heavier stuff too, grownup. But you know, with him,
him in that in the fourteen yearold, in this in this day
and age, man, there's somuch, like you said, come at
him. And plus they don't onlythink about nineteen eighty four. Think about
all the music that came out fromnineteen eighty four to today. There's billions
of songs, great songs. There'sthousands of great songs out there. So
he's got so much to choose from. And he's grown up in a bit

(01:11:19):
of a different household where you know, dad works in radio, so there's
fucking music on all the time inthis house. But I've tried to over
the years be very careful about justonly playing you know, grunge or only
playing you know, heavy shit.I will put everything on. He's exposed

(01:11:40):
to everything that's been that way fromday one. I'd like just and I
don't force him. I don't go, dude, your fucking side one from
Van Haley one. I don't dothat. I just kind of go,
hey, if the song's on andhe likes it, I'll talk to him
about it. But I won't.I've never forced it. I want him
to make his own opinions because itso easy to go well, dad likes
it, I'm gonna like it.I'm like, no, you go fucking
like your own shit, you know. I mean, but the last year

(01:12:00):
or two, it's been fun tohave him, like a have some music
on and he'll be digging it andit's his playlist and I'll be like,
whoa, dude, you listen tothat. He's like, yeah, this
is awesome. Like let me tellyou, you know what I mean.
So he's like, oh, herecomes in. It's like the Pedia lesson,
you know. But he listens toso much shit, and he's been

(01:12:21):
taking pianos, so he's very intojazz. There's a lot of jazz albums,
like there's Miles Davis, There's TheloniousMonk. There's all that shit coming
in on vinyl in the house.Because I'm getting it because it's good shit
and I'm learning about it. I'mlike, whoa, this is really cool
shit. So we were listening tothe new Food Fighters album on Friday when
it came out, and and heloves a food Fighters. So that's gonna

(01:12:44):
be a band for him. That'sgonna be when he's fifty. He'll be
going to IBN. When that cameout. I think that's an example of
what he'll okay. And and Ienforced me that on him. He just
it was on he gravitated towards it, and and he's listening to the new
song. He's like, oh man, this is cool, and I'm listening
to the lyrics because I knew itwas all about Taylor. And then Dave's
mom, right, so it's brutalshit, right, And he goes and

(01:13:05):
he pops up everyone. Somebody goes, hey, they stole that. That's
a jazz lick right there. Andhe's he's pointing out little chunks of music
that's like, oh, well,that's this, that's this, And I'm
going, I don't know what thefuck you're talking about. Right. You
know, he's listening to it fromall his experience playing the piano and learning
to read music and all this shit. He's picking out these little musical moments

(01:13:27):
where I'm just going, oh,it's so sad man about Taylor. And
he's like looking at me like I'ma dope. We're having a conversation about
the music. We're having two differentconversations, and it's awesome because I'm learning
shit from him. So it's it'shard to give an example for him,
you know. But if food fightersand shit like that, we'll be one
of those bands, I'm pretty sure. So I was gonna save this for

(01:13:50):
final thoughts. But a friend ofmine here bought London a book and it's
one of those. Uh I thinkthey call him little Golden Books. The
spine has got that gold foil thatwe had when we were kids. Those
are, believe it or not,those are worth some money now. I
guess if the original ones now theycan They've continue to make them and they

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make a lot of updated ones.Well, my friend deb over here,
she's a big Taylor Swift fan.Taylor Swift has a Little Golden Book and
she bought it for London. SoI gave the book to London and it
doesn't mean much to her other thanoh cool book. There's a girl on
the cover. She's making the handheart whatever, you know, So she
immediately tries to do that. Idon't know if she has not seen the

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bringing your two hands together to createa heart. But other than that,
the book didn't you know, She'slike, oh cool. You know,
it's just like a girl. Itlooks it's very girly looking, you know.
So she's down to you know,read the book, and I said,
well, this is Taylor Swift.I go, She's She's probably the
biggest singer in the world right now. And I'm talking to a five year

(01:14:53):
old. I'm like, do youwant to hear a couple of her songs?
She goes, yeah, put somethingon. She always is down for
watching videos, putting you know,putting YouTube on the big TV. Now,
I'll tell you what now, Imean, you know Taylor Swift whatever.
You can't not know a couple ofher songs, you know. And
I'm thinking, what's going to bethe first thing I player? And you

(01:15:15):
know, I'm thinking we're never gettingback together. I go, what's that
other one? It was like,oh, shake it off? I go,
man, let me put on shakeit off? Three billion views?
Bro okay, three? I thinkit's three point five billion views. So
and we gave it about four orfive more. It was like there was

(01:15:36):
some subliminal message to little girls inthat video. And I saw my daughter's
eyes light up. It was cool, and I don't care. I'm like
you, I don't care, man. I just I wanted to like music.
I wanted to appreciate all kinds ofmusic. I want her to let
her pick with the stuff that she'sgoing to like. If I'm the one

(01:15:56):
with, if I'm the gateway toTaylor Swift, so be it. By
time I take her to a TaylorSwift concert, it's going to be a
million dollars a ticket. So rememberthis conversation and you can punch me in
the face. Yeah, but Isaw her. I saw her flip a
little bit, and I saw herkind of bop in her head, and
I mean, shake it Off isso fucking catchy. Right, Yeah,

(01:16:16):
you can't beat that song, Itreally can't. And the visuals and Taylor
Swift is I don't know if you'veever seen the video. She's being silly
in it, and you know,there's these ballet dancers and she's kind of
being the goofball of the group.And it's so relatable and she's so relatable
and seems so cool, and Isee why people love her the way that

(01:16:38):
they do. Three sold out showshere in Houston, three nights in a
row, with the with the mostridiculous ticket price ever. But to sit
back on the couch next to mykid and watch her watch it, it
was pretty interesting. She wanted toShe's like another one, play another one,
play another one, and it wasn't. It was what I thought was

(01:17:00):
going to happen, is play thatagain, play that again, because that's
what I remember when YouTube was new, Justin Bieber was pretty new and parents
were saying that their kids were listeningto Baby, and kids were listening to
it fifteen twenty thirty times in arow, back to back to back because
they could, you know, becauseit's right there for him and it's so

(01:17:23):
easy to do. And I thoughtshe was going to do that, but
she said, no, play anotherone, play another one. We probably
went through about six six and thenshe wanted to hear shake it off again.
But it was just it was socool, dude. It was just
it was cool. Now, wouldit have been better if it was the
fucking food fighters, Sure, butit was cool, man. But it

(01:17:44):
was like crack, Yeah, itdoes. Taylor Swift have subliminal messages in
those videos. Follow me girls,stick up for me girls, I'm here
for you girls to it. Itwas wild, but that's the secret sauce.
Though for some artists, you justhave it. You know you have

(01:18:05):
it. You've got great people aroundyou making the right video to right everything.
You know, Iron Maiden to goback to them again, the Secret
Sauces. They did all that shitright apparently, and it works worked and
works for them. Taylor's just onanother fucking level. Man. I think
that's cool though, that you're exposingto anything music wise, you know.

(01:18:28):
I think that's the key. Youknow, it's like, yeah again,
you know, did you want togo fucking rip into the number of the
Beast right away and go, dude, you gotta check this out? Probably
not the right move. At five, she was like, ah, no,
thanks, She yeah, because wegot the ABC's of rock. So
that's what kind of was. Thatwas a great thing to kind of get
her interested. Because she memorized it. She can go through the book.

(01:18:49):
A is a CDC? Now doesshe knows a CDC? No, but
she knows A is a CDC?And B as the Beatles and see as
Coldplay. So kisses k oh isAuzzi. So you know, it's just
you're going through the ABC's and you'reassociating with these rock bands and it's you
know, Guns and Roses and FooFighters and Ravana they're all in there.
And and I said, do youwant to see a couple of these?

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And she went right to the girl. She wanted to see Joan Jet.
She thought that was cool because therewas a picture of a jukebox in there.
We have a jukebox. Boom,love that. And then for some
reason she wanted to see Azzie andI put on Mark at the Moon and
she was fucking scared, scary.It's scary, and I'm like, oh
my god, this is one ofthose hey, don't tell mom. But

(01:19:33):
she wanted to watch it. AndI remember I was a little bit older,
but how we talk about kiss Iwas afraid of them. I was
scared of them, but it wasexciting and she was watching. If you
remember Mark at the Moon, it'sthe Jekyll and Hide where you know he's
he's in the in the laboratory andhe turns into the monster and probably a

(01:19:56):
little much for a five year old, but whoops. But she was do
it though You're like, she's kindof looking away, but then she kept
going. She couldn't look away.She wanted to see it right right right,
Yeah, no, you exposing thekids. And I remember my daughter
too, man, Like I wouldhave music on at the house and she
would wander around at three, fouror five years of age and a certain
song and come out and she wouldjust stop at her tracks and just start

(01:20:18):
bopping her head moving, and youknow, at that age she started getting
into certain songs and you're just watchingher and going, holy shit, you
like the Doors or you like thisband, or you like kids or you
like and it's like she didn't know. And you know, I talked to
her now and she's like, youknow, it's she's listening to all kinds
of crazy shit now. But fora while, it was all about we
went to Taylor Swift. And thiswas back before she was this Taylor Swift

(01:20:41):
where you could actually afford to go, you know what I mean. And
it was early on and I waslike, holy shit, this girl is
talented. And she was playing youknow, a smaller arena and it was
still great. And you know,and music changes, and you hope that
happens. But yeah, introducing thekids to music is very fun. And
we're very lucky at this age tohave kids that you got so much to

(01:21:04):
give them. You know, oneday she's gonna come walking home going,
hey, do you know who theBeatles are? And you're gonna be like,
fuck, sit down, sit down, here we go. You know
or or you know, she maycome home one day and someone's gonna be
like, hey, Dad, doyou have any Kiss albums? And you're
gonna fucking your head's gonna explode.You're gonna be like, take tomorrow off

(01:21:27):
at school, We're not going tobed, sit down. Here we go,
and it's gonna be the greatest ever. You're gonna have a fucking whiteboard
out drawing maps and should who wasin and out of the band over the
years. It's how we got here, here's where we got here, and
then boom about this, then this, here's the white album, and then
here's and then everything changes with SergeantPepper and then boma, She's like,
Dad, just put the song out. I don't care about your dumb graphs.

(01:21:47):
And that's where I always try tobe careful too, because we have
that knowledge. And you're in thecar and it's like, oh, who
is this, Oh it's this guy. It's Pearl Jam, you know,
it's Jeremy. Oh wow, thisis a cool song. It's kind of
dark. Well let me tell you, you know. And then you're like,
oh shit, fucking the Cyclopedia Brownover here. Just bitten the thing.

(01:22:08):
One of the great things with thiscoming back with the vinyl is I
mean sure, I'm sure you couldsit there and plug your headphones in and
sit and listen to a record.But I'm trying to recreate growing up.
Like I talked about that everybody everyonehad to hear what you were listening to.

(01:22:28):
So, you know, even whenyou and I lived together, I've
had the jukebox forever, and thejukebox is just there's no headphone jack on
the jukebox. You put on yoursongs, and now the whole house is
listening to your selections on the jukebox, And I'm trying to recreate how that

(01:22:50):
was in my house growing up,how we talked about. You know,
we had turns and we all gotthe side of an album and I would
play Kiss and Sue would play ThePolice or the Who, and then my
I would play you know her shit, which turned out to be the greatest
music of all time with the Elvisand you know and all the stuff that
she listened to. And we getup on Saturday morning, I'm like TV

(01:23:13):
or tunes? What do you want? She's like tunes every Saturday, let's
listen to music. Now I'm acreature. I'll put on the TV news,
I'll turn it down, but wego right to the jukebox and then
boom, you know, she pickssome stuff out and we listen to music
in the house. And I don'tknow how much that happens. I mean,
I know that I'm making an effortto make that happen, that there's

(01:23:38):
music playing in the house, notjust on your you know, in your
you know, your iPhone, inyour buds. You know. I want
music playing in the house well,because it can be shared and then you
can, you know, you bothhave something to talk about. Like like,
I've gotten the same concept vinyl.I'll buy vinyl now because I know
ultimately my kid's gonna get it andit's gonna be fucking a great collection.

(01:24:00):
But I do I buy jazz albums. I'll buy I'll buy crazy shit.
I'm not buying stuff I already own. I just won't do that. I'm
not gonna re buy the fucking VanHalen shit. I've got it on cassette,
I've got it on CD. I'mnot gonna go buy all the vinyl.
I'm just not replacing it. Idon't give a shit. I want
to buy different stuff. So what'sgreat about vinyl is you're forced, for
better or for worse, to listento all of it. And what's great

(01:24:23):
for us is I'll always throw ona side during dinner. I'll just walk
over, bust out something, throwit down, and we listen, and
we're all gonna chime in as we'rehaving our conversations over dinner, and then
all of a sudden, someone's gonnabe like, the fuck was that?
That was shit? I'm like,that's Tom Jones, dude, don't you
say that? And then I'm like, well, you know what, You're
right, that song was kind ofshit. That was a filler, okay

(01:24:44):
next, and then it's like,oh, I love this tune, you
know, and we're all expanding ourmusical knowledge. The great thing about music
I was thinking about this the otherday, is that you know you've got
your five senses. You know,your site, your sound, smell,
whatever, taste, and there's anotherone too touch I guess right, And
uh, as soon as you started, you an't. God damn it.

(01:25:05):
I'm on the hook to Sam allnow and it's it's exactly what it was.
I was thinking. I'm like,I'm not gonna get all five of
them. I could see the fuckingsmoke coming out of your ears. Got
it? I think I pulled themuscle my night coming up with those five.
But music, it's you can't it'snot tangible. It's a different feeling,
it's a different and it will createa lot of different emotions, right,

(01:25:28):
Like you'll listen to a piece ofmusic and it might be classical or
whatever and it's fucking sad as ship. And you might be going down the
road whistling fucking tunes and birds orchirping and you put something on next thing,
you know, boom and how didthat happen? Just fucking music.
Or you could be having a shitday and prank up some fucking baby shark
stuff and you're like, what,yeah, baby fucking shark dude. Awesome.

(01:25:49):
Music is a whole other sense ina way, it's it's a different
thing. It hits you in alot of different ways. And that's what's
great about music. Get off mylife and like everything though, I don't
want to force right because it's sucha huge part of my life. It's
been a huge part of my life. I know for you as well,

(01:26:10):
and obviously Henry is you don't gotto worry about that. You know.
I just you don't want to pushanything where it's just like, ah,
you know what, Dad, that'syou. That's your thing, right,
And so there's always that, youknow, not forcing the stuff on.
Hey, what you want to turnwe can turn on the TV. You

(01:26:31):
want to watch my Little Pony,that's fine. Nah, Dad, let's
listen to tunes. Awesome, awesomechoice. It's so like I've gotten very
cognizant of the fact that, yes, this is what I do for a
living. I know this shit right. And it's like he'll say, oh,
I like that song, and Iwill sit there and I will bite
the fucking inside of my mouth sohard to not talk and tell them all

(01:26:54):
about it, because it's like unlesshe asks specifically, well, what do
you know if you if you everinterviewed this bad and it's like, oh,
okay, well let me tell younow. I've really gotten better about
not just hammering him with all thefacts because it's like, you know what,
that's your discovery as well. Theknowledge is sitting here if you want
it. But I try to like, nah, you know, back off
a little bit, let him godiscover, because he does. He takes

(01:27:15):
off and he's on YouTube and he'slistening to shit all the time. Yeah,
which is cool. There's there's don'tthink there's going to be personal listening.
I mean the phone, the ear, but that's not going away.
Okay, there's gonna be personal listening. But I also want, like you
side of an album boom speakers,I want the house full of music.
Oh dude, my house. Well, you know, when we live together,

(01:27:40):
fucking music a second you wake up, there's music on till till lights
out, you know what I mean. Like in my house, frontyard,
backyard, in the house upstairs,tunes are on. And it's not necessarily
my damn radio station either. Imean, yeah, i'd have that on
because I gotta know what's going on. But any chance I get to step
away, I'm putting different shit onall the time. There's always music on.

(01:28:00):
I just gotta beat that way.I can't live without it. Final
thought, if you if you hadto give up the sense of smell or
music, smell in a second,I can barely smell now. Yeah,
that's probably a good thing. Yeah, I gotta come up with a better
one of that. Anyway, Tastethat up for next time. What about

(01:28:24):
taste taste or a sound of music. You know what, I would eat
a lot more vegetable if I couldn'ttaste anything. So yeah, I guess
I give up taste too. Yeah, for sure, I would. Yeah,
now music, I gotta have music. It's like, okay, here's
one site. The ability to seeor the ability to hear boom, that's
the one I should have asked.There it is. That's a horrible question

(01:28:44):
I have to ask somebody. Ahany final thoughts, sir, you're not
gonna answer that one, Okay,I'm one either. No, I don't
know. It's like it's like whenyou're not when you were little, you
ever see an open wheelchair, maybeyou're at an old folks home or something
like that, and you get inthere and you and your brother or whatever,
it be fucking wrong. It's likemy mom's like, get out of

(01:29:08):
there. You don't ever want tobe in one of those. Yeah,
no, I know. Yeah,you don't even talk about it, but
we were fucking around. If wewere sucking around with a wheelchair, my
mom would kill us. Yeah yeah, and put you in one. I
got it. That does that makessense? Right? Yeah? I got
it. Um. Final thought is, hey, listen, driving home from
work today. Driving home from worktoday, coming towards me, I'm in

(01:29:32):
my lane, there's a guy ona motorcycle. Right, just a straight
up. Just this is not aguy who's got a motorcycle that he's digging.
This is his transportation. Okay,real motorcycle, smaller one, the
whole thing. This thing is beatup a little bit. This is how
this dude's getting to work every day. Okay, on the back behind him,
as you would what do they callthat, riding toad? What is

(01:29:55):
it? Your arms around the waistand you're sitting in the back. Right,
there's a yeah, yeah, ridingpass her on the back of the
motorcycle. All good, right,people call it nuts to butts, and
that's probably what it was because itwas probably a fifteen year old kid.
Helmet. I got safety first,right, and I'm like, hey,
I look at this guy driving hiskid home from school. And I wasn't

(01:30:16):
really paying attention and I was tryingto, you know, not get hit
by other cars. And then ashe's turning, he's coming, and he's
turning in the lane to come towardsme, and we're gonna he's gonna pass
by me. We're face to facein the other lane. Right, I
look, and there's a kid koalabearing on the front hugging the dad,

(01:30:38):
sitting nuts to nuts. I guessif you would highly illegal hugging dad no
fucking helmet. Kids probably twelve arethey training for the fucking circus? And
he's got his head cocked to theside so dad can see past him to
drive the motorcycle. And I'm like, this is how memes are born,

(01:30:59):
this is how people die. AndI'm just looking at and so I'm pissed
off. I'm like, what's thefuck. It's during the day, right,
It's five thirty in the afternoon,the highest peak of traffic drive time.
So I'm immediately angry. Right,I'm like, what the fuck is
wrong with you, dude? Andthen I started going, wait a minute.

(01:31:20):
You don't know if his kid issick, and this is the only
way he had to get him tosomewhere. You don't know the circumstances.
So I'm like, God, damnit, I want to be mad as
shit at this dude. But helooked like he was struggling, and he
looked like he was trying to dothe right thing in the worst possible way,
and It made me think, like, you know what, you just

(01:31:43):
you can't get mad right away,and you always your first instinct is to
get pissed off at somebody. AndI started to sit there thinking about him,
like this poor bastard. He's ahe's in a moment where he made
a bad decision, but he's tryingto do the right thing. It lived
here's I hope you know. Soit was weird. Ever seen that not
in this country. I mean I'veseen it elsewhere, like you said,

(01:32:03):
memes and stuff, but I nevereven in America. That's illegal. I
mean that you cannot do but notsafe. And I'm just sitting and I'm
looking at him and he's trying.The dude was trying, but it's like
it wasn't there. You know,I don't know. It was fucked up.
Fuck up dude. Anyway, Finalthoughts ROD. Two shows came to

(01:32:24):
an end. No spoilers, buttwo very very different shows that I that
I got tucked into watching one ofthem and then one I just kind of
flipped a coin and they said,Okay, I need to watch something,
So I picked Succession out of thinair to watch. The other one,
Ted Lasso, I kind of gotconned into watching from the guys on the

(01:32:46):
show. Alex even bought me alittle Apple TV box. He's like,
you have to watch ted Lasso.You're gonna love it. Both shows had
their series finales. We hadn't talkedin a couple of weeks. I went
to those shows for very different reasons. Ted Lasso it just was a feel
good show. It was perfect.It wasn't always awesome or great, but

(01:33:11):
I went to that show because Iknew that it was just going to like
put me in a good mood.And Succession gave me so much fucking anxiety.
I hated these people so much.I couldn't wait for it to be
over. But I guess there wassomething enough there that I liked it.
I went to that show for somethingvery very different, and now it wasn't

(01:33:33):
great because Succession I would watch onSunday nights, and that's I'm trying to
wind down and I got to goback to work and all that, and
these horrible people would upset me thatI'd lay there in bed with my eyes
fucking wide open thinking about it.But I'll say this nothing more than both

(01:33:54):
shows ended really really well, andI wasn't let down, and I don't
know that I put as much pressureon endings as other people. I thought
Game of Thrones was just fine,I really do. I thought it was
just fine the way that it ended. But Ted Lasso, I thought it
was a really good, satisfying ending, not the greatest ending of all time

(01:34:17):
and Succession, very very satisfied withthe ending. And you run that risk
of dedicating all that time to ashow and if they fucking just shit in
your mouth on the last episode andthey leave you like you know, I
had to go to work the dayafter the Sopranos. I didn't watch that

(01:34:38):
show, but I had to bethere the morning after. You guys watched
what you watched, and that's allpeople wanted to talk about, you know,
people. And I think people haveprocessed it and they've come to grips
with it, you know now,over the years. But let me tell
you, when you give yourself toa show for a long, long time
and then boom, they just don'tkind of get it right. People felt

(01:35:00):
that way about Game of Thrones.I didn't. But these two pretty big
shows I thought did a really reallygood job on their endings. I saw.
I did catch up with Ted lassoand uh yeah, I thought the
same thing. I thought it wasgood, the same thing. You go
to it and you're like, thisis just gonna be kind of cool.
It's just's gonna be a message.But they're not gonna beat you over the
head with it. It's just gonnabe in there. And you know,
yeah, some of it was hitand miss, but overall, it was

(01:35:24):
cool. It was funny. Youknow, it was interesting. It showed
a different way that people can live. It's not all fuck you at all,
you suck, It's not doesn't haveto be that way. You know,
yes you could, and I thoughtit was very inspiring that way,
and hopefully what the message was duringthat show was hey, maybe you throw
a little bit of that in yourday to day as opposed to just being
a miserable oak like me all thetime. It was it was a really

(01:35:46):
really good show. You know,it had its ups and downs, even
in the three short seasons that ithad. You know, it wasn't like
I hear people talking about Dexter andthey you know, they went a couple
of years with being upset with whatit was going and they still stayed with
it. Um, you know,you get in you do your three seasons,
you know there's gonna be some spinoff. I'm sure they're gonna be there's

(01:36:08):
gonna be a check team, andkey Lee is gonna who is my least
favorite character on the show, she'llprobably get the spin off. And that
means the owner of the team thatyou know, they're probably gonna get a
check team. That would be myguess um. But yeah, I mean
I was very I mean, youwere satisfied with the ending of ted Lasso.
Well, I think you knew howit was gonna end. I mean

(01:36:29):
I did. I think you knew. Like middle of the second season,
You're like, well, yeah,this is how it's gonna end. This
this is obvious, you know,in the way they got to it.
It was made sense to me.Yeah, it totally made sense. And
you know, there's there was alot of weird loose ends. I was
like, well, why didn't theywelcome they But it wasn't about that,
you know, it wasn't that.I think that Jason Sudeikis, who plays
Ted Lasso, he was kind ofthe guy who kind of ran the thing,

(01:36:53):
and they had a vision going intoit. We're gonna do three seasons.
We've got a story arc. That'sall we're gonna fucking do. You're
gonna ask us to do more,and we're not going to do it.
And they came in with a vision. A lot of times what happens to
these shows is they come in andthey have a great first season and then
they just keep going with it andit waters down, like Dexter had that

(01:37:13):
problem, and then other shows overthe years have had that problem. When
you've got that here's my plan here, we're gonna start it A and we're
gonna end it Z and this ishow we're gonna get there. There's not
gonna be Z two point zero ornothing like that. This is it.
The seasons that have done that,or the shows have done it awesome,
the short runs, the three seasons. Now we all want more, but

(01:37:35):
it would fuck it up. Idid find it. I did find it
now. I don't pick up thesethings on my own. I need to
be told. When I watched TV, I'm like, I am completely unplugged
from the world. But I'm notwatching it like there's going to be a
test afterwards either. So I don'tknow people's names. After watching three seasons,

(01:37:56):
I couldn't tell you, like people'snames on the show the next day
when I was looking because then I, you know, we do have the
luxury of going online like, Okay, what are people saying about it?
Am I the only one that wasI thought it was a pretty good ending.
And then you start to see,okay, well, here's all of
the the easter eggs, all thethings that you know that they did.
Did you see all that stuff?I'm like, I pay attention just enough

(01:38:19):
to kind of be entertained, butI'm not like focused right right right,
So I would like after watching Gameof Thrones, they're like, oh my
god, when he opened up thatbook and he read that thing. I
don't know what any of that means. You know, I didn't know things
correct. But the coolest thing andit's not a spoiler, but the coolest

(01:38:40):
thing. And I don't know ifyou had read this or heard about it,
or I know you didn't pick upon it. But the old lady
at the pub, she had justthat picture of Geronimo when at the very
end of Ted lasts. So thisis I'm feeling good about this discussion because
I'm feeling like I'm going to tellyou something that you don't know at the
very end of ted Lasso, they'relooking at the shares of like stock.

(01:39:04):
Then there's the three guys at thepub and there's the old lady. Oh
yeah, somehow she slaps his handor something like that because I don't know
if those are the shares or whateverit is. But she looks up and
she moves the picture a little bit. That's on the wall. It's a
it's a Native American and it's Geronimo. I'm the last cheers. Ted Danson

(01:39:29):
walks over to the wall and it'sa nod to coach. Coach, that
was his picture of Geronimo, andhe just straightens out the picture a little
bit. It's the same picture GeorgeGeorge went norm is Jason Sadakis's uncle.
Oh jesus, So they throw theythrow it to cheers dude in the bar.

(01:39:54):
That's freaking awesome. There's twenty otherthings like that, but that's the
that's the coolest on You never knowthat. Yeah, but just go and
look up Geronimo adjust picture and you'llsee the side by side. The old
lady moves it. Ted Danson movesit. He doesn't say anything, but
everybody knows that that was Coach becauseif you remember, Coach was on the
show and then Woody Harrelson took overand it was the last show and it

(01:40:16):
was him saying goodbye to Coachy.Just adjust same picture, dude. And
then the fact that Norm is Jason'suncle. Bizarre, But that's great about
that? Those those little those littlethings. You know that the Cheers bar,
the original one is for sale.It just sold. Oh it did
it sell? Yeah? It waslike, since you didn't get the Iron

(01:40:38):
Maiden pinball game, maybe get thatbar shipped over. Dude, that'd be
pretty fucking cool any more, dumbship. You could stand around that and
look at all the carved in signaturesfrom all the cast members and ship,
let me kind of neat? CanI go to bad? Now? I
want to talk to you about therod Ryan showcare store. It's back online,
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(01:41:00):
If you don't have a kuzy,at least a couzy for when you're chilling
with your pails this summer, whatare you doing? Your life is not
complete to get a couzy for yourdrinks. Rods raising some money, a
lot of money to purchase backpacks forthe area kids who obviously need them.
He's working again with the Houston Children'sCharity, trying to outdo last year,

(01:41:21):
raising the bar all the time.There's Rod right there trying to get one
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(01:41:45):
the store. Jesus dude, andthen we had given away three handies with
ever purchased. What's up, dude, these bad boys? How could you
say no? I'm buying twenty fiveshirts right now. Ever done an honest
day's work in their lives? You'rekidding me? Nice and soft? Ah,
this is to be found. Eleventhousand dollars over eleven It might be

(01:42:08):
around twelve now today in the store. And then a five thousand dollars angel
donation from Ron Hoover, RV andMarine of West Houston. So eleven twelve,
thirty forty fifty sixteen. It wasabout it. It was. It
was a sixteen thousand dollars day today. Then that's gonna buy some serious backpacks,
dude. At the end of theday, that's pretty much. It's
expensive, dude. It used tobe twenty bucks for a backpack. Now

(01:42:30):
just like everything, man, thateverything's more expensive, you know, And
you said it in the spot,the filled backpacks, all that shit,
the crayons and the paper and thefucking colored pencils. Everything, it's everything
is so much more. It's crazy. Yeah, it blows. It's just
hard. Well think about how thataffects families, you know what I mean.

(01:42:53):
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Yeah, what is that? Isaw the top part of it.

(01:43:40):
It's a great pictures. It's mydog done as a Disney character. I'm
like, who is this guy?I don't even recognize my fucking self.
I'm like, I'll never forget.I'm never getting a dog. Now,
I'm fucking commissioning somebody to do aDisney version of Voodoo. Fuck happened to
you? I don't know. Idon't know voting. You're my best friend.

(01:44:02):
I love you, man, Ilove you man. Well, what
I want you to before you goto bed, it's going to eBay and
start looking at that iron made apinball game. I want to find out
which shit say, look what I'vedone? So yeah, yeah, all
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