Nirvana Top 5. Big in the 80s. Drink your milk?

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Boom boom boom. Okay, we'rerolling. We are, we're doing this.
Let's go to eight podcasts in arow. We'll stop. That's Jason
Ginty. I'm Ron Ryan. Thisis the Playpants Podcast episode. At ninety
eight. Were coming up on abig year for Nirvana. They released their

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final album in Utero Part Shape BoxAll Apologies, thirty years ago. Jason,
Wait, hit me with that numberagain. Wait, I don't believe
that could be true. Nineteen ninetythree was thirty years ago. So we're
on the anniversary of the last studiorelease from Nirvana, and we've never done
a Nirvana top five on this list. We've almost done one hundred podcasts,

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We've mentioned Nirvana six gazillion times,but never did a Nirvana top five.
I think we're due, you know. When you said it over, I'm
like, you're like, well,let's do it, Nirvana top five.
I'm like, uh, come onnow, dude, we must have done
that out of the gate. Andthen I look back and I'm like,
oh my god, the two dipshitswho really have nirvanted to think for where

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we are today in some ways neverdid. It was tough. We're talking
about them a lot. I meanin a roundabout way. I imagine we
probably have done. If you piecetogether ninety eight different podcasts, you could
probably piece together our top fives.But we've never really kind of done it
in one discussion. So I thinkwe're overdue on that. I brought in

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an article which I think is reallycool. This is taken straight from Loudwire,
and I want to do a littlething with you and see if they
got it right. And we're justgonna focus on the eighties. I know
that's even longer ago. That's dude, forty years ago. We're going back
forty years now. Okay, we'regonna go to the eighties. So what

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they did is they picked the artistthat was the biggest artist of that year.
It's the artist that everyone was talkingabout the year. Because sometimes when
an artist came out, let's talkabout Nirvana. You know, when Bleach
came out, nobody was talking aboutNirvana. So the year that Bleach comes
out, you don't give Nirvana thatyear just because they were the biggest band

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probably to come out of it.But the year that it came out,
no one was talking about Nirvana,so they will not be mentioned on the
year that Bleach comes out, they'llget a mention on the year, but
they won't be the biggest act.You'll see how it goes. It's actually
pretty interesting, so I'm looking forwardto getting into that. And then I
just wanted to say that football iskind of awesome again. I know last

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week I was pretty down on football, but the Bills came back with a
win and things are going well forthe Saints. Yeah. Yeah, No,
it's cool. It's you know,it's like there's a lot of other
games I'm kind of like keying inon. And We've talked about this before.
There's just a lot of cool storylinesaround the league that, you know,
two weeks in you're like, okay, but I think some shit's gonna
shake out here pretty soon. Lastweek, Rod, we did our top

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five favorite videos yeah of all time, which you know what. After we
did it, I was like,yeah, mine suck because then I started
digging looking at other people's I'm like, ah see, this is what's fun
about this is because in the momentI thought those were my favorite, but
now I'm like looking at some ofthese, like our our good friend Francis,
God, damn, Francis is sogood. At this. You know

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what, he kills us every time, Like I'm like, fuck, his
are way better than mind. Everytime I go some of a bitch man.
His top videos coachis from Audio Slave. Think about when that song came
out, that first song come out, and it was a punch in the
face and the video was a perfectcompanion. Think about this, Okay,
Chris Cornell is in rehab the daythey shoot that video. Chris Cornell gets

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picked up in a car from rehab. Whatever he's wearing that day, that's
what he shows up in at thevideo. So think about how that video
plays out. And Francis, younailed it. And I don't know why
I didn't talk about this because it'sone of my all time favorite videos ever.
The fireworks and everything. Chris Cornellshows up in the video and he's

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up on the platform already. Hedoesn't have a band, does he.
It's just Chris Cornell. You gotrage against the machine. They don't have
a singer. They come in thatfucking truck and there's three guys right up
the elevator. It's three guys.They need a singer. So they go
up on the roof. There's Chris. They start jamming. But true story,
Chris was in rehab. So lookhow cool he looks in that video.

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That's just what he was wearing thatday. Okay, they maybe did
a little bit of hair, alittle bit of makeup, but that's it.
There was no he didn't talk tothe guys. They just said be
here at this time and we're goingto do this, and that was it.
He shows up and they make oneof the great videos of all time
and completely unscripted. At the endof the video when it's over with the

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band members come together and they allhug, completely not script it at all.
It's like, fuck, yeah wefound our singer and yeah I found
my band. So great. Damnthat video is great. I mean,
you know, that's what just goesto show you that, you know,
being cool is just that's it's it'syou can't fake it. He's just he
was just fucking cool. Oh Ijust got cool. I could have been
in wardrobe for a month and Iwouldn't look that cool. Okay, he

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doesn't even have a wardrobe. Hejust shows up in the clothes he's wearing
it rehab that day and films oneof the greatest videos ever. So Francis,
You're the best coat cheese audio slave. It's it's an incredible video.
Yeah, that was his number oneCharles Taylor Honorable mention Maroon five Sugar.

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I don't know if I've seen thatone. I don't remember that zz Top
legs. Yeah, okay, I'llgive him that one. Remember that was
we talked about the zz top throwingthe key in the big fancy car.
Queen's right, silent lucidity. Ithought that was interesting. I'm trying to
remember the video now. It wasn'there lacking away, kind of sensitive,
shadowy, shadowy, It's kadowee.Yeah, think think Police every breath you

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take, that kind of look.Yeah, okay, yeah, I get
that one. I just never gotinto Queen's reich. I just I can't
get into them for some reason.There's certain things I kind of am okay
with, but yeah, I don'tknow something about it. You know,
years ago after Queen's were I bustedup or whatever they were doing, Jeff
Tate, the singer went out ona solo thing, did a solo album,

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and they and this is this iswhere you know, once in a
while you take a liberty in radio, you know, you do one for
you because you have the keys tothe candy store, you can go and
eat the candy sometimes, you knowwhat I mean. So I get a
phone call and I'm programming some shittylittle station. It was like an alternative
rock talk thing back in the day. And I get a caller like and
it's and it's Jeff tats people andthey're like, hey, Jeff is in

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town in a in a week,you know, we want to do an
interview. Maybe he'll do an acousticsong. And I'm sitting there going it's
Jeff fucking Tait. Okay, thisthis dude arguably one of the better voices
ever, and you can put himin the top. Great voice in the
top, you know. And I'mlike, and I was like, I
don't ever want to play a songon the air. I don't ever want

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to really talk and put an interviewon the air. But if I get
to meet and hang out with JeffTate for ten minutes and maybe he'll sing
a song, yeah, come onin, guys. I'm cool. So
I did the old this ones forme. So Jeff take comes in right,
and he's just a fucking rock sohe's he's super nice, totally cool.
Of course he wants you to playhis new solo album that nobody was

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playing. And he's like, hey, man, I brought I got a
guy with me playing acoustic guitar becauseyou want to do a song. And
I go, you know, inmy programming, you might not going absolutely
not, no way, never themillion years when I do this, and
I go, yeah, let's doit on the air. On the air.
So we go to commercial break,we come back, all right,
here's Jeff Tate with whatever the songwas. And you know, I got

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the guy was playing the acoustic withthe mic and he's just playing the acoustic
guitar. Jeff Tate, you knownormally, and you've done this in the
past where you've got the bay andso during commercial break you kind of do
a little quick soundcheck and everybody like, okay, where's your microphone? Gonna
be kind of get a level.He runs through part of the song.
You're good. Then when you alive, you'll look like an asshole or try
not to. So Jeff Tape isgot the microphone that he's been speaking in

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right by his face, like youwould like we do right now, Okay.
As he goes to sing, hetakes two steps backward in the studio.
He is literally two arm lengths awayfrom the microphone and I'm looking at
him, going, bro, wherethe fuck are you going? And then

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he starts singing. He's so fuckingloud and powerful. Dude. Oh yeah,
it's an operatic. I mean it'sit's theatrical. I'd never heard the
song before. In the fucking hairon, my arms are just lifting off,
and I'm just like and he's justfucking It's me, him and the
guitar player and probably nobody listening,and I'm like, dude, it was

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so badass. So I have aappreciation for Queen Drink because of that moment.
And it was literally he's two armlengths back from the microphone in just
fucking blowing hair back. I mean, it was great. It was such
a performance to do that. Soyeah, Yeah, the guys that have
those voices, they know they needto back off. I'm like, they
need because they know they're gonna they'regonna wail. He could have been down

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the hall and still made it.I mean it was great. So yeah,
and we got another one here fromlet's see here from Immortal Warrior.
This you're getting this off of ourYouTube page. So this is from last
week's podcast, episode ninety seven.We were talking about our top five favorite
music videos, and we just wantto let you guys know we do look

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at our YouTube page to see yourcomments. Yeah, I'm looking right now.
No, I'm kidding. We dolook Mega Death Crush Him. I
don't remember that one, but Iwill go back and look at it.
Mag That's made some pretty cool videos, man, eminem Stan, I don't
know why we didn't mention that one. That was pretty good. That's awesome.
And then Charles Taylor had, okay, go uh this two shall pass

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uh corn freak on a leash.A dude, we didn't even you know,
we kind of bombed on this alittle bit because you two where the
Streets have No Name? You twomade some pretty fucking for the time badass
videos. They where the streets whohave no Name? Is a great one?
Is the one why the rif top? No? Well, I forget

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which one that one was to set. They're like, what Vegas? Yeah?
All that ship? So anyway,yeah, I'm not supposed to by
the way inside inside information, right, I don't know if you even know
this. I don't have the radioWizard talked to you about this in Houston,
but uh, there's gonna be anew You two song next week.
Well they played it on Fremont Street, all right, yeah yeah, so

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uh just they're gonna drop it nextnext next week. So you know,
hope it's good. I even said, please be good. I heard it.
Oh is it any good? Oris it? Well? I heard
the live version that's out there,the videos out there. I mean there
was so much guerrilla footage out there. They did it right on Fremont Street.
I don't know if it's called AtomicCity or something, but it's a
song about Las Vegas because they're doingthe Las Vegas Residency and that's spear uh

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in the Sphere. Yeah, andI want to go. I do want
to go to that. I don'twant to go. I don't want to
go the first day. I don'twant to go the first week. I
want them to work the kinks outand stuff. But if you don't know,
it's it looks like this big,huge globe. It looks like the
like a planet. It's the placeis completely round. It's called the Sphere
and it's just going to be forawards shows and shows like You Two's residency.

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It's just another you know, hugeroom for people to play. But
man, it looks so badass.It looks unbelievable. They got you can
like kind of there's like cams youcan look and and like one minutes a
happy face. Next thing is likethe globe. It's it's pretty spectacular.
So so thanks for the comments ona YouTube channel. I love it.
I love it because now I've gotlike six videos I got to watch this

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weekend that were great, and there'sso many good ones that we skipped.
I mean we mentioned the Lincoln Parkand all the tool videos. I mean,
there's just so many of them.Rod Quick, quick thing I want
to throw at you if and Ithink you've probably you've probably covered this on
your morning show. But if ifthey start charging for Twitter, I mean,
I'm out, I'm punching out.I'm out. I'm done. I

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don't give it fuck. If theystart charging for Facebook, they start charging
for Instagram, I'm out. Yeah, I don't. I don't think Zuckerberg
will do that. And that's whyhe's got Threads just ready to go.
Like nobody's on Threads. You know, there's a decent amount, but not
a lot. Yeah. Well becauseit just kind of automatically carried over and

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it's like you kind of have it, but nobody's using it. Nobody's out
there doing anything with it. Buthe has it there, it's ready to
go. If you have Instagram,there's a good chance you got threads or
it's just sitting there waiting for youto activate it. You just gotta punch
in. Yeah. If he does, in fact charge for Twitter slash x,
Threads is just ready to roll.I mean, that's the only reason

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why he did it. Just no, I will not pay for X.
I just I just won't, noteven for work. It's just I don't
need it. I need Facebook,I do. I know it's like where
Grandma is, but believe it ornot, most of my referrals, my

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bounce back from social media to theblog page is from Facebook. It's not
even nothing else even comes close.So Facebook is what I would keep,
And then that's obviously packaged in themeta universe with you know, Instagram and
Threads. You know, I wouldn'tpay for TikTok. I wouldn't pay for
any of them. Well, theone I probably wouldn't give a couple of

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bucks to and don't tell them butshit is probably Facebook. But I don't
think he'll ever charge for it.They're making money, They've got ads,
they've got revenue coming in. ElonMusk is throwing this up there as a
hail Mary. Yeah, he's justthrowing it. Will not pay, No,
No, I don't think so.I don't even pay for the verification
badger. We used to be verified. I'm not I'm just not paying.

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It's just not interesting. I'm notinterested at all. No, No,
it would be kind of nice.And then like if they start charging,
you think, like you know allthese corporations, all these people that use
it to advertise, and all theinfluencers and shit, it's like, I
don't care. This actually saves mea lot of work. At the end
of the day, I don't haveto use it anymore. Got it nice?
Got a really good email, AndI want to thank Jimmy. He's

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listening to all of our podcasts.He's like, man, I was so
pumped to listen to you and Jasonyour top five grunge songs. Give them
all your knowledge in the radio industry. He gave me his top five.
He said it was absolutely brutal.Uh, Nirvana, Come as you are
was one Screaming Trees, Nearly LostYou, Pumpkin zero stp plush Bush,

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Little Things. He said he's workingon Mark Lanigan's book right now. So
Jeff from the podcast right that's theScreaming Trees singer who is now deceased.
And then he's moving over to anotherbook. I recommended Kitchen Confidential. Wait,
keep rocketing the pod. Thank youfor y'all's time and efforts. This

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guy's like taking advice from the podcast. And then his third book is gonna
be Color Me Good. Harry.Oh yeah, Harry Styles Coloring Book.
That'll be the third one. There'sa lot of you know what, we're
better than Oprah right here. Wegot Oprah's got our little club, we've
got the we've got the Playpants Podcastbook Club. Actually, you know what,
probably wouldn't be a bad idea,obviously, Harry Styles is the best

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book that we've ever recommended. Youknow, he's got one coming out in
October. He's got a real bookcoming on in October. I'm just just
a tease again, Rod, I'mI'm in the no now I know stuff.
So we'll get to that. Areyou digging into this new Queens of
the stone Age at all. We'replaying the single that's out right now,
Paper Machetti. I like it.I like it. I don't love it.

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I like it. We just announcedthey're coming. Are they coming to
New Orleans? Coming here? Wejust announced. Yeah. I haven't listened
to the new album yet, butjust because they're coming, i'd been listening
to a little Queens at the stoneAge. I'm just I'm so hot and
cold on them. I can getrid of I can literally get rid of
half the songs on every album,and I can take a ten track album

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and I can tell you that likefive of them, I just I don't
want to hear, but five ofthem are really really good. It's so
weird how I'm hot and cold onthat band. So I can't wait to
listen to the new one. We'rerecording this On Wednesday, September twenty one,
Friday, Stains album comes out thetwo Stained songs. Did you watch
the video? Yeah, you know, I was. I got a little

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bit excited last week apparently or something. I don't know, too much cocaine
off the computer screen or something.I don't know what happened, but I
said I would do like one ofthose reaction videos. Yeah, I was
waiting for it. Yeah, I'mtelling you right now. Of all,
I didn't know how to do oneof those, so I had to go
research how to do one. Irealized that terrible. That's a lot of
fucking work. Uh. And thenI'm like all right, and I'm like,
well, I could do it,And then I just got sidetracked to

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another shit. So I'm like,well, fuck, I better at least
watch the damn video anyway, andjust so I can have something to talk
about in case you bring it up, which you did. Then I watched
a video and I'm like, yeah, I'm glad I didn't do a reaction
video on that. It hits alittle too close to home for me.
It's a brutal it's dude, fuckingwow. I'll be honest with you.

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I was surprised that you said youwere going to do this. I said,
do you know about this video?What's going on in the content of
this video? Yeah, but yousaid you were going to do it.
I said, I will have afucking front row seat if he's gonna pull
this off, because that video isreally emotional and it deals with you know,
it's a father and it's a sonand the father's dealing with Alzheimer's,
and it's it's it's it's a toughone. Man. I can't believe how

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many people have emailed me, eitheryou know, thanking me or odd you
bastard for making me. I didn'tmake anybody do anything. I just warned
everybody that it's you're gonna get hithard in the fields. But it's really
done well though. It is it'sgreat and you know, uh, you
want to have fun though, andI'm telling you it's actually kind of a

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cool thing. Is that because Istarted going down that rabbit hole? Of
course? Well then there are abunch of other reaction videos that are gonna
pop up in your algorithm on yourYouTube channel, and there's all these like
big meaty dudes, like beards andlike tough looking dudes, and they're just
like all they're like, I can'tbelieve this fucking songs making me cry,
man, Like, so we couldbe getting millions of hits right now,

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is what you're telling me? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, all the all
the big dudes, all the allthe elphas are crying and they're like like
you fuck this guy, you knowwhat I mean? But so then I
went and I was like, Okay, the video is giving me a reaction,
so that that's almost unfair way tojudge just the song. So I
went back and listen to the songstraight up, and I'm like, damn,
this is a good song. It'sa good song. I was staying,

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they've got a sound. They don'tgo too far from where they're at.
They know what works for them.Man, those are two great stains.
They're great staining songs, and it'sit's the way you do it.
The first one was heavy, secondone softer one. And there's two other
songs that are floating around out therethat are supposed to be great. But
Radio Wizards said there's five hits onthis album. So I'm looking forward to

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it. New Blink one eighty twotomorrow, nine o'clock our time, nine
o'clock am. We're playing it.You're playing it at nine. You're gonna
get it right. Well, wegot a different morning show, so I
can't play until time we're gonna play. You know, we're doing old school.
You know, back in the dayyou see dor top every hour.
You know, world premiere, whichis bullshit because everybody's playing it. But

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you know, you gotta take creditwhen you're in radio in your market.
So yeah, we'll be banging attop of every hour all day tomorrow because
the song is good. The songis good. I want to I want
to get your thoughts after you listento it. It's about the lyrics.
Pay attention to the damn lyrics becauseI know you don't. I don't,
but they do. Blink did agood job of setting it up on there

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you are on their Instagram page.If you look at maybe their last post,
it talks about the song and howthey all came together. You know,
Travis goes all the way back orto you know, getting in the
plane crash and you know how theydidn't want to do music and the cancer
and everything. So uh yeah,this is gonna be another one that's gonna
be pretty emotional. And they usethe hook. You can hear the hook

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of the song playing in the video, so it's like a teaser and you
can tell it's a smash already.You said it was going to be great.
It just from the little clip Iheard on Instagram reels, you can
tell you know it's going to bea smash. So great time for music
right now. It's a great timefor music right now for what we do,
you know. I mean, wedon't always We're not always like the

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shiny, new cool thing. AndI feel like we're feeling I'm feeling pretty
shiny right now. In alternative rock, yeah, I think you know again.
And alternative rock and alternative radio reallyhas a split. You know.
There's the there's the cool kids outin LA the West coast, East coast.
You're gonna play all the new shit, you know. I mean,
there's a there's a guy who wentto number one on the alternative rock charts.

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I forgot his name is, andhow much I cared. I didn't
play the song. I don't thinkyou guys did either, and if you
did, it was very little.Declan McKennon or something like that as his
name, I don't know whatever.It's kind of a slow song, and
but it's very pop. There's alot of pop, and there's a split
happening. And I think we've talkedabout this before on the podcast. In
the alternative world, where there's stationsthat are going a little more rock,

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like you and Houston and Saint Louisand US in New Orleans, and there's
a few others kind of going inthat direction. And then there's like the
pop guys and for your city,if it's working, good for you.
But I'm more of the let's playthe stains. Let's play that, because
I know New Orleans is about thatshit, man, and I know Houston
is obviously. So yeah, you'vegot You've got the Blink coming out,

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which, by the way, Idon't think people understand what an incredible producer.
Travis Barker, the drummer is producedthe whole album, So it's gonna
have maybe a little different sound,you know what I mean. And it's
gonna like he did all seventeen tracks, which is new and uh he sings
a little bit on this song,just saying And then you've got to keep

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in mind too, we're gonna getsome Pearl Jam at some point. We're
gonna get Green Day at some point. There's a song coming out from Mike
Shinoda that is fucking great coming outsoon. I mean, we got a
lot of shit coming our way,dude. There's a lot of good shit
there really is. You know,there's and you and then you know there's
always gonna be something on the leftfield. There's gonna be some weird shit.

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You're going, what the fuck isthis? It happens every wonder Bush
will put something out to go alongwith their Greatest Hits album sometimes, you
know how bands will throw in likea like a banger, and so people
talking about it. So maybe somethingfrom Bush, you know, maybe it's
not just the greatest Hits, rightextra song? Yeah, So again,
I'm just it's a it's a goodtime for our format. We kind of

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get left, at least with mycompany. You know, all they care
about is fucking Taylor Swift. Soit's it's good and it helps that we're
doing as well as we are.I know, your ratings are on the
rise over there in New Orleans.So all this new music and good new
music, it's it's only gonna help. Yeah, it's good ship, dude.

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So I found an article that cameout this week and it was from
Loudwire, and I don't go tothat website quite as often. I probably
go to Blabbermouth a little more,but this one really kind of caught my
eye. And what they did isthey dissected each year of the eighties and
they determined what was the biggest nameof that year, what was everybody talking

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about, and they kept it inlike the rock metal space, you know,
and there's going to be some stuffthat's a little pop leaning, but
still I thought they did a reallyreally good job. So we're gonna start
with nineteen eighty Loverboys self titled debutcomes out. It's the Turned Me Loose.
I was on that. I didlike that song. I still like

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the Kid is Hot Tonight is onthat first one. I think the Romantics
dropped two albums in nineteen eighty.I love the Romantics. I've got probably
six Romantics albums on vinyl. Ilove them. So they dropped two albums
in nineteen eighty. That was whatwe heard. What I Like about You,
Donnie Iris is Aliyah Dead Kennedy's comeout in nineteen eighty, Joan Jet,

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nineteen eighty, diamond Head which Metallicawere huge fans My Evil, Brian
Adams in excess Billy Squire, HueyLewis and the News Psychedelic Furs now Brian
Adams in excess Billy Squire. Theykind of snuck in on that nineteen eighty
where they weren't huge that year.They gave the year to Ozzy Osbourne,

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that was the biggest thing of theyear they got that year, right,
because what's what's what's out that year? It's Lizzard of Oz Blizzard right,
Yeah, Okay, yeah, wellthis debut, these are all debuts,
So that means it's not you can'thave been around for a couple of years
and just had a great year thatyear. It's your your debut year.

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Who had the biggest debut year?Who had the biggest debut in that year?
So everything that I mentioned came outtheir first albums in excess. First
album Brian Adams first album nineteen eightynothing was bigger than Ozzy Osbourne. Nice,
he was everywhere, ruled the airways, multiple hits on that album,
yeah, the whole thing. Okay, Yeah, I go with Ozzy on

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that one totally. Okay. Nineteeneighty one I was ten men at work.
They won the Grammy and they wonBest New Artists and then a couple
of singles. It wasn't just whocan have been to Me? Now?
Down Under? Be good Johnny StevieNicks goes solo in nineteen eighty one.
Phil Collins goes solo in eighty one. Do Do Do Do Do Do Do

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Do Do Thank You in the AirTonight nineteen eighty one. So everybody knew
him from Genesis, but he getsin on the list because he's solo,
breaking through as a solo artist.Did you hear Monday Night Football? Two
things about that? First of all, why the fuck do we even do
it anymore? That was that shit? That? What was the check?

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That was doing it there for acouple of years, the country Check,
the Blonde, she's still doing it. Don't even dude, if you're if
you're gonna start capping on Carrie Underwood, Dude, I'm gonna shut this podcast
down. I'm like shutting it down. It's shutting it down. It's so
shudder filled. She's hot. Ilove it, But this dumb night football?
Fuck oh Sunday Night Okay, whatever, it's dumb. I hate it,

(26:41):
but this was good Monday Night football. Chris Stapleton fucking great Snoop dog
Listen. I know everybody loves SnoopDogg, and I know what they why
they did what they did. Buthe's not needed on the track. Okay,
you could have just been Chris Stapletonand it would have been fine.
But the drummer, do do dodo do? Do do. That's Lenny
craw it's his drummer. I thought, so. I was like, wait,
but that's Kravis his drummer right there, and she's a badass now that.

(27:04):
I thought that was cool as shit, man, I thought that was
pretty neat. It's pretty and againChris Stapleton now doing the national anthem.
Last year they were doing white Horseweek one. In and out of breaks
they were playing our song, mysong, and then he just did the
Monday night football song. Is thereany question who's doing the fucking Super Bowl

(27:25):
halftime show this year? Is thereany question? Jason? You know question.
I don't have questions about that.I have a lot of other questions,
but it has to be I wouldsay it's him because then he can
bust out, you know, JellyRoll can show up for a song,
and like they could do the coolcountry thing because country is really hot right
now and there's a lot of crossoveron a lot of different genres with the

(27:45):
country, so you know, Ithink that would be the home run.
I don't love it. I helpedhe says fuck you to everybody and just
does it himself. I'm telling you, I'm on board. I am fan
number one right now. I canlive with that. So Phil Collins comes
out with his solo well, GoGoes, Stray Cats, Motley Crewe don't
forget. Motley Crew comes out rightin eighteen eighty one, but didn't nobody

(28:10):
knew. Nobody knew right, nobodyknew eighty one Moley Crew, come on,
you were Rhythmics, bad religion,dock in minor threat, bad brains.
If you're in the punk space Anvilkicks Raven about that album Replacements,
who got nineteen eighty one Billie Idol? He had the most heat. He
had the most heat. Obviously withmoney money, you gotta covered, you're

(28:32):
gonna do alright, And yeah,that makes it. I mean, I
would say the Go Goes. Theyhad a couple of hits that in eighties,
so that that's a tough one.I'm Phil Collins was huge, But
did he hit? Did all thathit in eighty he made have released it
in eighty or eighty one, butdid it hit? You know what I
mean? Like, it's a weirdThe timing is weird. And then does
he not get the same credit becausehe's already known from Genesis and the same

(28:55):
thing with Stevie Nicks she's known fromFleetwood Max. So do they get the
same kind of new you know whatI mean? Right, I'm fine with
Billy Idol. I'm not man.Billy Idol was all over when it finally
came around and debuted. Billy Idolwas all over the place. But yeah,
Billy Idol was talked about. Nineteeneighty two, they gave it to
Asia. I was wearing an AsiaT shirt either last week or the week

(29:19):
before. Podcast they sell those,dude. Asia was fucking huge. Oh
they were massive and they wrote somegreat fucking songs. Asia was massive.
Everybody in the band was great.Heat of the moment. Only time will
tell soul survivor all for that firstalbum. So that's nineteen eighty two.

(29:40):
Are they bigger than the Fix flockof Seagulls? Night Ranger, Twisted Sister
starts getting some heat, Robert Plantgoes solo that year, Misfits Descendants,
Rm, nah, they were andbeastie boys who weren't really the Beastie boys
yet none of those Twisted Sister isn'teven twisted history yet, correct, wasn't

(30:02):
the big that doesn't stay hungry?So yeah, I would say Asia,
I mean that what a weird yearfor music man Asia in nineteen eighty two,
there was like kind of no competitionnineteen eighty three. Metallica, Metallica's
first album comes out in nineteen eightythree, but Metallica again is not Metallica.

(30:22):
Nobody knows about it, Nobody knowsa Metal Blade or whatever album whatever,
you know, that's the only that'sthe Big Four. Slayer also comes
out that year. So when youlook at like the thrash Big Four,
and then Anthrax and Megadeath are cominglater on on the list, but Metallica
and Slayer come out in nineteen eightythree. Queens, right, there's your
boy, eighty three Kings X fromHouston, fast Way, leader Ford,

(30:48):
Europe, Suicidal Tendencies. I lovethe Smith's violent femmes, butthole Surfers,
the Hooters, Uh, James,is it Jamestown, New York? Ten
thousand maniacs? Yeah, yeah,it's well, yeah, I guess it's
Western New York. I don't knowif it's Jamestown, but yeah, I
Jamison and Jamestown and then Stevie rayVaughn came out in nineteen eighty three.

(31:14):
Correct, they gave the year todeal you know, I would have to
say probably deal because he's got thepedigree of the Sabbath, the Rainbow and
Holy Diver. Holy shit, dude, there's so much great shit on there.
But then Stevie Raybron's Texas Flood,come on, come on now.
But I don't know if Stevie Raybrownwas Stevie ray Vaughn in eighty three?
Was he that shit hit later?You know? That's the hard problem with

(31:36):
this. Did he have the hotheat on him? It was? He?
Was he? And all the magazineswas he on TikTok? You know
what I mean? Like? Washe? That deal was everywhere? So
yeah, I gotta go deal man. They're doing a pretty good job with
this thing. Quick question. Yeah, I've always been a fair weather fan
of King X. You know,I like some of their ship. Why

(31:57):
did they they They're one of thosebands that kind of got caught in the
wash somewhere and they never kind ofhad that hit that broke them through to
like bigger, you know what Imean? Like that, that's one of
those weird bands that you just seethat they're doing fine. They're doing they're
living, they're making great music,but they never could get across the hump.
You know, all musicians love KingsX. Correct, All musicians absolutely

(32:22):
think that they're the ship. Theplayers in the band, all three of
them were unbelievable. Doug on bassand the singer. I mean, he
was a fucking great singer. WhenI first moved here, he reached out
to me, he said he waslistening to the show. He was working
out and stuff. So they werestill living here. But yeah, Doug
Pinnock, Yeah, the guitar,the drums, they were all fucking virtuosos

(32:46):
at their instruments. They wrote amazingsongs. They just didn't write three and
a half minute verse chorus, versesongs. Didn't write Yeah, but musicians
love Kings X Yep. Yeah,they're a Bison's band. Yeah. It's
just one of those ones that you'relike, a man, what happened?
Why didn't that not click? ButI'm sure they don't give a shit.

(33:07):
I guess anyway, what was theeighty three? Now we're on eighty four.
I already know the answer of thisone, so yeah, you can
go ahead. I'm telling you,I don't know if they got this one
right. WHOA So here's who thisis? Who they didn't give it to
Anthrax debuts. Nobody knew. Sonow you got three of the Big four

(33:31):
Autograph, Turn up the Radio,Massive, Massive, Yeah, to Hell
with the Devil, Remember Striper,Striper, Christian Metal, Wasp comes out.
I Love Wasp, Great White,the movie, Spinal Tap, Honeymoon,
Sweet Canada, What Up? SoulAsylum, Red Hot, Chili Peppers

(33:52):
come out, but we know this. Nobody knew anything about them in their
first in the first three four albums, the Pogues come out while they give
the year to Rat and don't giveit to bon Jovi. Bon Jovi came
out of the gate pretty Hot,which She's a little runaway. That song

(34:13):
was, Yeah, but Rat,Come on, you couldn't turn on any
video program or MTV without seeing roundand Round Milton Rat, Round and Round.
Yeah, Milton Burl right is inthe video. Yeah that was.
That was in Massive, Heavy,Rat. That song was. I grew
to not like it after, likethe video, I was like, all
right, even when I was inyou know whatever eighty four was, Yeah,

(34:34):
No, I the bon Jovi,I get, but Rat was just
everywhere that year everywhere. Yeah,Rat was. I'll tell you what Rat.
The problem with Rat is kids isthey're fucking so dysfunctional. Okay,
like the band themselves. If theywould have stayed together, okay, hear
me out, if they wouldn't havebeen dipshits. And when you're in a

(35:00):
band and you're young, you're stupid, you're a bunch of assholes, and
then somebody starts whining about shit,and you think it's a big deal,
and then you realize when you getolder, God damn, it's not a
big deal. If Rat would haveheld it together, we would have Rat
right there with Motley Crue. Stillnot in the Rock and Roll Hall of
Fame, but Rats Rat's productivity.Go look at their albums, go song

(35:24):
for song, look at what thecrew did. Rats right there. But
they don't. They're not in thatdiscussion because they're not number one, they're
not as famous, and they justbroke up so often and they just couldn't
keep it together. And for themost part, except for recently, Motley
Cruz stayed with the same four guyswith all the bullshit they had. For
god's sakes, their lead singer killedsomebody. They kept them in the band,

(35:46):
you know. I mean, ofcourse, they brought in John Karabi,
but for the most part the corefour were there and Rat just couldn't
hold it together. We would viewRat as a little bit higher up and
they would be right at par withMotley Crue. Yeah, because they're there.
They kind of get they they couldbe at Molly Crue, but they're
kind of lumped in with the hair, you know what I mean, Like

(36:07):
from a there's a cheese factor.Because of all this bullshit they did,
they needed a man. They neededDoc McGee, the manager. They didn't
have the manager to hold together becausehe held that Molly Crue owes that dude
a lot. They were idiots.Okay, now eighty four Okay, when
you talked about, well, maybewe shouldn't look at you know, Phil

(36:30):
Collins, and maybe we shouldn't lookat Stevie Nicks because they're so well known
for their other bands. I don'tcare. It's nineteen eighty five, the
biggest debut and the biggest debut thatpeople were talking about. David Lee Roth
ended discussion. It's over doesn't matterbecause that was so huge. He does

(36:52):
Beach Boys, and he does hedoes two cover songs in the videos.
Were they those videos made Rats overplaylook stupid? Like Roth was on your
TV constantly, But it wouldn't workbecause I don't know what kind of airplay
that got. I couldn't tell you. I know California Girls did, but
I don't know if just the jiggalogot played on the radio. Videos,

(37:15):
but the videos were played non stop, and it just he would not have
been the biggest artist of that yearhad MTV not launched yet. It was
just the reason he was so hugewas just based on the videos. Those
songs are ridiculous, but the videosare so fucking great. They're so great
of the time. I mean theylook dated now. If you're young piss

(37:37):
pot listed into this podcast and yougo back and you're like, oh,
man, don't tell me those videosare great. They were great. They
were great. Yeah, yeah,No, And who else who's on the
list five? Well, we finallyget the we close out the big four
Thrash Megadeth debuts White Lion, TheFirm Okay remember the Firm Radio Act?

(38:00):
Yeah, Paul Rodgers on vocals,Jimmy Page, Tony Franklin on the fart
base. Uh power Station is anothersupergroup with Robert Palmer. That's the Fat
Albert theme. It's also radioactive andwhat's happening. Remember that one rog no

(38:22):
that was we gotta do a topfive TV theme songs. I think cool
Karen. I think she suggested that, yes, we should do that as
great. I already know the onethat's gonna be number one. So so
supergroups, Yeah, you had theFirm came out that year. You had

(38:45):
Power Station with Robert Palmer, hadthe Duran Duran Brothers, the Tailors,
right, and then you had TonyThompson on the drums. You had Mike
and the Mechanics, which I thinkwas kind of a supergroup. Yeah,
that year it was Genesis, right. Yeah, and then and I forgot

(39:05):
where that singer was from. Theoutfield comes out, and then alternative.
You start getting college radio. Youstart to get some names that you heard
of before. Drama, Rama Jesusand Mary Chane, Love and Rockets,
Sisters of Mercy who I loved,Dead Milkmen. There was some college music

(39:30):
is now starting to become a littlebit more well known, right. So,
but it's the early, early,early undertones of you know what we're
gonna eventually call alternative. Go backto nineteen eighty five, eighty four,
eighty five, So yeah, Imean the biggest thing in nineteen eighty five

(39:50):
was David Lee Roth all right,let me move this along. This is
one. Yeah, they're right.I just don't agree with it because I
just have such a dista the bandPoison. I cannot stand them there of
the time. It's what was happening. Even when it was happening, I
thought it was goofy shit. Ireally did, man, I never ever

(40:14):
was on board with anything they did. Talk Dirty to Me the dumbest song
ever written. It's the worst pieceof shit ever. If I could,
I would give the year to Cinderella, who I think is a rock blues
band. I do. I thinkthey're rock blues band. But nineteen eighty
six goes to Poison and they werethe biggest thing. Talk Dirty to Me

(40:35):
was absolutely huge. Cinderella Tesla comesout that year. Yea, they immediately
yea. I love them. Iremember I hear them the first time they
got played on MTV, and Iremember, holy shit, man, this
is really really good. Smith Reenscome out, Concrete Blonde, here we
go, some more Collegy stuff.Matthew Sweet Screaming Trees come out that year.

(41:00):
Nothing else. Georgia's satellites. Can'tyou for yourself one dopey song.
Yeah, so you gotta give nineteeneighty six kind of shitty year. You
gotta give that to Poison. ButI'll remember. I remember going out and
for whatever reason, I must haveliked one of the songs on the album.
I went out and bought the cassette. Yeah, I went and bought
the cassette, dude. And I'mlike, okay, because I heard the

(41:21):
songs of the racelet I bought thecassette. I'm like, all right,
Poison, I'm cool, man.I bought a cassette that everyone's got on
the radio, all right. AndI get I buy the thing and I'm
looking at the cover and I'm like, chicks, Well, they don't sound
like girls. Like I'm so dumband naive, man, I don't know
shit. I'm like, I'm like, well, god wall action dude.

(41:43):
Yeah, And I'm like a actiontonight. So I'm in my youthfulness looking
at it, going I'm like,well, that one's kind of that.
That chick's kind of hot. Andthen I kind of do some digg and
I'm like, oh those are dudes. Yeah, dude. That kind of
rocked my world a little. Ineighty six, I was. I was
a young buck at the time andstill trying to figure things out in life,

(42:04):
and I was like, oh,makeup, got it? Okay?
Freaking me my best Jason Ginty voice? Did you cry tough when you listen
to it? Sorry? You know, I really just wanted action, bro,
I just wanted action. Nineteen eightyseven, do we have didn't have
to go through this? I mean, guns an Roses, guns hits done.

(42:25):
They don't get immediately though, itdoesn't TV. It's not until MTV
starts playing Welcome to the Jungle,But it's still in that year. They
owned in nineteen eighty seven. Yeah, I mean, and then they owned
eighty eight and eighty nine. Butthey but they were the biggest thing that
when they came out. They werethe biggest thing once MTV picked up the
video go go down the list,what's kind of bubble and alternative? Why

(42:46):
was there anything in that year,because that's that's where things start. That's
when rim starts heating up a littlebit. There's other things happened. They
weren't new at that time because theywere back a few years before. But
well, I mean, we knowfrom listening to this show Soundgarden also debuts
that year. Nobody know, nobodyknows, but Jane's Addiction comes out that

(43:08):
year, but it's that weird livealbum then again, you know, and
where they do the Stones cover andyou know, I went back and retroactively
bought that album, but I didn'tknow it. I didn't know. I
didn't know Jane's Addiction until you knowthere because technically it's their debut. So
that's why they're lumped in the eightyseven. The only thing that would really

(43:31):
I mean, Lou Graham I thinkhas a solo record. I know,
you don't like these guys wants tocome out of big bands except for DLR.
But he did have a pretty bigsolo career. Lou Graham was kind
of a big deal. Richard Mark'sdebuts that year. That's true. Yeah,
he Richard Marks had a couple ofyears. He had some hits.
Man, he was everyone kind oflike the Billy's Squire of pop rock fair

(43:55):
because Billy Squire was rock, coppy, lead rock, but Richard Marks was
pop. You know, yeah,but not today's pop. It would be
more pop on okay, So hedebuts should have known better. Don't mean
nothing but a ship year from musicoutside of Guns and Roses, Robbie Robertson,

(44:16):
he was in a pretty big band. He goes solo and then again
with But with the College thing nineteeneighty seven, we're not calling it alternative.
We're not doing any of that.We're not in college yet. I'm
still in high school. But here'swhat's bubbling under. Sound Garden comes out,
Pixies come out, Jane's addiction,Henry rollins, Okay, White Zombie

(44:39):
comes out that year. Wow,Faster Pussycat comes out that year, more
of a of the glam. Yeah. And then I just I had to
go look this. Google Dolls nineteeneighty seven, eighty seven, Wow,
Jed? Right? Was that theirfirst album? No Google dollas Google Dolls
fu? Yeah? Yeah, yeahthat southing? Okay, yeah? Was

(45:00):
Jed was second? Second raw?That's raw. It's awesome because Robbie singing
all of it. Robbie is thelead singer. Robbie Tai Kak, the
bass player, is the lead singerof the Google Dolls. When they come
out, like you talk about aband, I mean, I realized bands
evolved in mutate and have changed,But when you really think about how that

(45:21):
band just completely changed, and andgood on them for making a change to
the way it did. But wow, you know, when you think about
that story, that's pretty cool.Man. Yeah, eighty seven was kind
of a ship year, dude,except for guns for guns and rows,
and then maybe that helped it great. Either eighty eight's not great. Winger

(45:42):
self titled album comes out, that'swhere you get seventeen, but a way
Bullet Boys comes out smooth up inyou. Yeah, Yeah, it's Nice
Vixen, the all girl rock band. That's the that's the one you were
probably looking for when you bought Poison. Yeah, I got the wrong one.
Kingdom, Come, Brittany la Guns. I mean nineteen eighty eight we
are we are just at peak glammetal. We're just peak shit, you

(46:06):
know. But then you got danZig, Melissa Ethridge, Jeff Healey band
again. You gotta squeeze in theCanadian artist here and there. Jeff healely
was fucking great, guys, themovie Roadhouse. He's the house band,
all right, brilliant, He's blind. He plays the guitar like Stevie ray

(46:28):
Vaughn. Okay, like Stevie rayVaughn. That's what he sounds like Blues
wise, but he plays it flaton his lap and he plays it like
one of those country steel guitars.Yeah, he's fucking gold. Everyone,
please go look up the song canyou See the Light? Okay because he
couldn't because he was blind. Canyou see? And it's fucking insane how

(46:50):
great it is? And then what'sthe cover Roadhouse Blues in the movie?
He does Roadhouse Blues? Yeah,And then he had that song to hit
the drippy you would angeliz or somethinglike that or angel yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah, which was a great songtoo. Man. You know what
else he couldn't see? Come on, you couldn't see that girls Teddy's when
she did that dance on the stageand Roadhouse either couldn't see that, Like
he's just sit up there looking aroundwell, you know, not looking around

(47:12):
whatever. This is terrible, bythe way, we're so canceled. Dalton
got her down. Thought he didbecause Dalton. I mean, you want
some good life advice, you payattention to Roadhouse. Dalton will get you
straight. Dude. Yeah. Eightywhat was he eight? Nineteen eighty eight?
They give the year to Living Color. You know what? This is
where I'm going to disagree I loveLiving Car Color, but Winger was way
bigger. They were all over MTV, all those hits, the Miles Away,

(47:37):
the Pretty Boys, I mean,Winger was bigger. I'm sorry.
It was so shocking that Living Colorwas a black hard rock band. You
know, it was such a bigdeal. You know. I've heard them,
you know, talking, and they'vetalked recently with everything going on with
Jan Winner, the Rolling Stone guythat said, stupid shit, Living Color

(48:01):
wants to be in the Rock andRoll Hall of Fame. And I'm sorry
they're a one hit wonder. They'rea one hit wonder. I don't they
broke down barriers and things, butwith one song, I'm sorry, it's
a one hit wonder to me.Had they done more, uh, you
know, a couple more songs thanyes, I'd be I'd be all right.
I'll never forget the first time Isaw him, I think I saw

(48:22):
I remember hearing the song, going, holy shit, what a great song
called a person amazing, what anamazing the guitar and the whole thing,
and I'm like, this is unbelievable. And then I watched one Saturday Live
and I went still one of thebest Saturday Live performances from a band.
It's it's got to be up thereto top ten. And I'm like,
what wait if they would have followedit up with three and four songs,

(48:45):
you know, not Open Letter orwith Landlord and stuff. I mean,
it's okay, it's it's just it'sjust not great. It's just it wasn't
great. And then there wasn't asecond and a third album that you that
you can sit here and talk abouthits. Well, Rod, I love
those albums, okay, but wholoves him? Not that many? No,
no, not that many. Yeah, you need more than that or
a one hit wonder. I dolove him though, I mean, Vernon

(49:07):
reads fucking guitar solo on that damnsong cult to Personality. It's just here
I can I'm gonna show you whatI can do. And he just just
fucking played as fast as he couldand it was great. Yeah. Yeah,
No, it's spectacular the whole song. He's just ripping through the whole
thing. So yeah, but Igotta go winger on that one, man,
I gotta go winger. Sorry.I got the last one as we

(49:31):
and I think maybe nineteen eighty nineJason Guinty. Yeah, I Nails,
nine inch Nails, Head like aHole again. Now you're seeing this college
rock kind of what it was calledback then. Wait a minute, this
just really starting to break through now, nine inch Nails, not as they

(49:53):
didn't become huge yet, but theydebuted in nineteen eighty nine, and let
me tell you, there was abuzz about band Stone Roses They're out,
They come out, Nirvana's Bleach comesout, mud Honey is out, Mother
Love Bone is out in nineteen eightynine. Again, these aren't household names
yet, but it's so funny.It's so interesting to me to see that

(50:17):
none of that stuff is existing innineteen eighty, eighty one, eighty two,
and then you're starting to see eightythree and eighty four Chili Peppers and
these bands. Wait a minute,they're just fucking laying the foundation, you
know, to what's coming later on, and it's see all the way back
to r EM you know, right, yeah, you can see it.
It's funny. How but but youknow what I mean, how why were

(50:40):
they all so different sound? Youknow, they weren't filling any trends,
you know what I mean. Theywere doing their own things because there was
no playbook yet there was no playbook. It was just you're listening, but
you're listening to everything that was beforeyou, you know what I mean.
So there's all these influences, butsomehow all these bands just kind of sounded
different, which was great that It'skind of why skid wrote or that's kind

(51:01):
of why Sound Garden like sounds likea metal band, you know, because
that was their influence, you know. But then they came in they just
kind of ended up doing their ownthing, all right. Nineteen eighty nine
I mentioned Green Day, Offspring,Pennywise, and then you still got you
still got the Hair, so yougot enough's enough. You got Mister Big

(51:22):
with Buffalo Boy actually Tonawanda Boy,Billy Sheen, bad Lands, Underrated Band,
Dangerous Toys, Dream Theater, andthen I guess more on the college
side, Lenny Kravitz, Yeah,they give the year to skid Row.

(51:45):
Makes sense. My only thing Imade a note about, like, you
know, Warrant was pretty big thatyear, and again I'll take skid Row
way over Warrant, But you gotto think about the video power of Warrant's
videos, you know, the cherryPies of the world, all that shit.
So yeah, I'll give it askin road just because I like him
better. But yeah, no,I can't be mad about that at all.

(52:07):
No, I get And going backto the sound guard and comment,
Rod, I forget if it's Outshinedor it's Rusty Cage off of Bad motor
Finger, but Chris Cornell said thatthat he wanted to write a hill billy
black Sabbath song. That was whathe was trying to accomplish, and one

(52:27):
of them, I forget if it'sRusty Cage Outshine, but and I'm like,
when you listen to it, youkind of go, yeah, yeah,
I can hear that he succeeded.I think that's awesome. Yeah,
he would sit down and go,I want to make it sound like this.
He had have a sound in hishead and that's how he described it,
and then of course it comes outjust fucking awesome. So Rod,
why don't we take a break andwe'll come back with our top five favorite
Nerbana song, which is what isthis episode two? Yeah? Right?

(52:52):
You know what they didn't mention inLoudwire. I just I looked it up
because it's just because we talked aboutr em you two eighty. They weren't
huge, but they didn't even geta mentioned for the year for them coming
out in nineteen eighty. Maybe theydidn't just they might not hit the market.
It might have been just like oneof those things where it's kind of
big in England and barely did anythingin the US or some shit. I

(53:15):
don't know, that's a that's aweird boy. Yeah, I don't know.
I don't remember. I was fuckingeleven and just running around in my
kiss makeup. Okay, uh topfive favorite Nirvana songs coming up. Hey,
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(54:43):
Anyway, everybody from Houston that takesyou're away from Houston for taking the tour.
Uh. Second of all, we'vehad a lot of people say,
hey, these are all dude tshirts. What's up? Don't you like
girls? I do? Yeah,I also like poison apparently, but we're
gonna have a couple of ladies shirtscoming soon, hopefully, we'll have it

(55:04):
up on the website next week.And if you are coming to New Orleans
as fall, you're gonna want tobook early because shit is getting tight already.
People are finding out about this damntour and they're taking it. So
that's my words of wise wisdom today, Rod, that's it. Just want
to let you know those few tidbits. Thank you for those wise words.
Oh wise one Nirvana, dude,I mean this, It got me listen

(55:29):
to Nirvana again. Outside of thefive songs we play on the radio NonStop.
It got me listen to Nirvana again. And I think that's a good
thing because Kurt was a great songwriter. And Dave Grohl always says that he
always puts Kurt on a pedestal,you know, I imagine things got bad
at times, and you know,he's kind of like like divorced parents,

(55:53):
how you just don't like talk badabout the other parent, you know,
because they know he knows how muchpeople, you know, how they have
their their love and all they everdoes is talk about positive things, you
know, and that's just kind ofhim. But he always talks about like
what an unbelievable songwriter Kurt was,and when you go and you listen to
some of these songs that aren't playedon the radio. The ones that are

(56:15):
played on the radio are great,and they're played on the radio for a
reason. They're the ones that mostpeople like. But now you're at the
point where the band, you know, they've got such they had such little
production because they weren't around that long. You can almost just go in and
play anything on the radio and it'sI think people would just okay, yeah,

(56:35):
it's Nirvana. You know, it'skind of like the first Guns N'
Roses album. There are singles offthe album, but the whole album is
singles now and Pearl Jam's you know, first album, it's those are all
singles now. They're so popular andthey're so they're so well known. Nirvana's

(56:57):
kind of like that with their catalog. You know, three albums technically,
I mean three real albums, youknow, it's it's insane, yeah,
and nobody really knows the first one, and I felt compelled to get something
off of the first album, whichI did, and it is a great
song. But yeah, you gotthree albums. Then you got the MTV
Unplugged, Then you have Incesticide,which was kind of like this greatest hits.

(57:21):
You know something, there was amoney grab for you know, for
the label. There was a stopgap between between Nevermind and they wanted them
to release in Utero sooner than theydid, and so they're like, well,
fuck it, let's just put thisout and that gets us. We're
coming off the heat of Nevermind andthen this will bridge the gap before in
Utero. And it worked. Youknow. Yeah, it's the game,

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all right, Top five. I'mgonna go first, please do. I
bet you We've got I love.I love doing this now. Man,
I'm gonna go to one. I'mgonna go to one. You think that
we only have we have two minimumof two. Right, Let's see what's

(58:05):
up, dog, We'll see what'sup. Everyone knows this song, but
if you listen to Kurt on theUnplugged in New York, he said,
this one's off our first album.Nobody knows it. And it's so weird
because it's the time capsule. It'slike, Kurt, everybody knows that song
now about a girl. Go backand listen to the Bleach version of that

(58:28):
song. It's just he's a greatsongwriter. What I was just saying,
and it's it's it's evident on thatfirst album of course, Nirvana and never
Mind is what blew them open.But you gotta go back, and you
gotta pay your respects and you gottago listen to Bleach and it's the album
that Dave Grohl fell in love withthe band, and he even said that

(58:52):
was my dream job to be askedto be in this band. He thought
Bleach was the best thing he's everheard before. So if Dave girl thought
it was that good, then haseverybody gone back and listen to that?
About a girl from Bleach is inat my number five? I just,
you know, I wanted to spreadthings out a little bit. In at
number four. I remember when thesong came into the radio station. We

(59:15):
were in Buffalo, you know,you're right, and it was a song
that they found and it just itmade me so happy because it was recorded
after Heart Shaped Box or a inUtero, and it really did sound like

(59:37):
this is what Nirvana was going tosound like. Yeah, it just had
a cool darkness to it. Itwas heavy. It was classic Kurt with
his voice, and it was angsty. You know, you're right. I
don't know if it's like the songwritingand everything, if it's the best song.

(59:58):
But for me, it was soexciting, and I was hoping that
there was going to be a bunchmore and then Dave came in and kind
of shipped on that and said,oh yeah, I forgot we did that
one. But that's it. There'sI don't think there's going to be like
a hundred more songs. That's it. That's all we did. That song
is so great, and it's frustratingto me because god damn, they just
and nobody thinks that Nirvana would havebeen around, you know, had Kurt

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been alive, that's it. Solo, he'd be doing something, you know,
he'd be in a coffee shop somewhere, you know, singing with an
acoustic guitar, or he would haveformed a band with Michael Stipe. But
that song, it's fucking a rocker. It's great. It's absolutely That's my
number four. My number three isHeart Shaped Box. I just thought coming

(01:00:46):
off of such a huge album there, the second album, I almost I
still sometimes slip and call it thedebut, but coming in that strong Heart
Shaped Box is amazing. The visually, the video is amazing. Everything about
it. Uh, the song isunbelievable and it's about Courtney Love's Filthy Crotch

(01:01:14):
Uh. Number two Come as YouAre, Yeah, and number one,
my all time favorite Nirvana song,which I think should be played on the
radio. Breed. Yes, it'sthe most rocking Nirvana song. It doesn't
have to be your favorite, butI will fight you. It is the

(01:01:36):
most rocking Nirvana song. There's nothingthat even comes close. It rocks,
but it's still palatable. It's ayes, oh yeah, yeah yeah,
because he's singing, but it's it'sa fucking face melter. You remember God,
and he's so talented, and Ihope he comes back with some something
really big. But Aron Jones,yes, you listen to him at all.

(01:01:58):
He was from Seattle. Yeah,dude, Lenny Kravitz, and it's
like, Okay, I get it. He's black. You gotta go with
the black guy, Lenny Kravitz andNirvana boom, those busses hit and you
get a Ron Jones. Right.So we're watching Aron Jones. He's playing
a buzz fest and I'm sitting Igot Alex with me, and I hear

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Dana and I look over and I'mlike, it's taking me a minute,
taking me a minute, And Igo I look at Alex, I go
fucking Breed. He's doing Nirvana andhe did a cover of it. Yeah,
and I already really was into hisstuff, but man, those covers
hit guys. If there's a localband listening, do a goddamn cover at
least one or two. I lostmy mind. I lost my mind because

(01:02:45):
we're not going to see Nirvana.I never saw Nirvana. So when I
hear somebody that you know, he'sfrom Seattle, he's a fucking major accomplished
guitar player and just got an amazingvoice. I heard Breed and I just
I was so excited. I don'tknow that I've ever seen anybody ever do
it live, so it was great. You know, it's the only time
I've seen that song performed live myself. Wow. Yeah, No, that's

(01:03:07):
a great song. You know.The other song and I didn't put on
my list that that is just fuckingvisceral. But it's not as melodic as
Breed, if that's even the rightway to describe Breed. But like Territorial
Pissings is just fucking nails on achalkboard, rip your face. So I
love that song, but it's likeBreed makes more sense it's it's more palatable.

(01:03:30):
Well, damn, you know what. I think you got me man,
you were right too, but Idon't think you are gonna yeah yeah,
the two we got. I wasshocked. Actually, all right,
that's a good list, dude,that's that's a very good list. Let
me thank you. Let me Yeah, You're welcome and appreciate that. I
mean, coming from a program directorof an alternative rock station, I haven't

(01:03:51):
said I did good. I mean, you know, proud of you,
man, you did a nice job. Then I gotta village. You'll keep
your confidence high, bro. Thanks, Thanks chef. Uh. There was
a song that came in to theBuffalo funny how you mentioned this the Buffalo
Station early days? And it wasa great album, and at least in
my head it was great. Iremember it having a lot of really interesting,
cool songs on it. I thinkthere was a Google Dials song on

(01:04:15):
it. I think you'll you'll know. The album was called No Alternative and
it was an album that a bunchof artists put out for AIDS fundraising age
relief, and it was called NoAlternative and it just had like a black
bunch of black circles on it andNirvana did a song. It was originally
called Sappy, but then it gotrechanged to Verse Chorus Verse, and it's

(01:04:35):
fucking great. It's one of myfavorite Nirvana songs of all time. It
is a really good song. AndI remember playing that. I remember playing
that off of the No Alternative compilationalbum. Yeah, and I think the
Google Dells had I think they didBitch with the incredible Lance Diamond and they
had the horns and the whole thing. I think that was the Stones tune
they did on that or was thata different I don't have to look it

(01:04:57):
up. It was something with LanceDiamond. Yeah, but they did that
song. I think you're right.I think that that cover was on that
album. Look up, it'll beon YouTube somewhere. Look dig up the
No Alternative album and goes on thatsucker. Man, there's some good shit
on there. I can't remember whoelse was on there, but that was
a cool album anyway, Verse ChorusVerse number five, number four coming backwards

(01:05:20):
is hard Dude number four. Andthis is cool because it comes from an
album released thirty years ago in Uteroand you had Heart Shaped Box, then
you had All Apologies, the thirdsingle on that album, was supposed to
be this song Penny Royal t andit's fucking great, and it didn't get

(01:05:44):
released because Kurt was dead and theyjust went, Okay, we're done.
That's enough of that shit. PennyRoyalt gets lost because you go back and
listen to that song and you're gonnabe like, oh fuck, this is
a banger two man, because it'sgot that same Nirvana soft loud, soft
loud. It's great. It's great. Penny Royalty. That's at number four,

(01:06:05):
number by four three. I can'tbelieve you have to count backwards every
time. Jesus Yeah, and mydaughter does a better job of counting backwards
than you. I got dropped onmy head. I think when I was
a kid a few times or something. I don't know. Anyway, Number
three and it's not The song isnot about what you think it's about.
The song is called rape Me.And if you got the balls to put

(01:06:27):
on a song and you're screaming atthe top of your lungs and the only
way Kurt can scream rate me overand over again. At the end of
it, you're like, Okay,this is fucked up. But he's really
talking about like mass media and themachine and just him feeling violated from his
fame that he hated apparently. Sothat's what that song is about, by
the way. Fucking it's if youif you can get past what he's those

(01:06:49):
words, because it's hard, especiallyin this day and age. Fucking great
song, absolutely amazing song. Itused to be in pretty heavy rotation,
man, And it was weird playingthat song, you know, when fucking
mom's loading up the minivan and inthe morning. Yeah, well, we
do, like on Fridays, wedo like a bunch of nineties shit.

(01:07:11):
And that comes up as I'm kindof scheduling the music and every time I
just I stopped as I'm going throughthe log and scheduling the music for that
Dan and I and I and Istopped on rape Me and I go,
oh, do I want to playit? Yeah? And I do,
of course. And then and thencheck this out, dude, boom,
here's our two. Number two breedright, such a great song. Fuck,

(01:07:33):
it's great and number one. Youknow, you're right. And I
remember hearing that the first time,and I'm like, I was just like
so excited, like, oh mygod, there's one. They got one
left. This is great. Theyfound the Nirvana song Holy Shit, hoping
it was gonna be great, andthat Basseline in the beginning that it's you're

(01:07:54):
just going, oh my god,this is fucking awesome. And then when
he is screaming pain and that's whathe's saying, pain and he just let
it drag out forever. It's thatclassic ripping your vocal cords to shreds uh
to shreds Kurt Cobain style of screaming, Yeah, you're just you're feeling the

(01:08:15):
pain, and it's like, goddamn. And then that was it.
It was so exciting, It wasso unbelievably exciting when that when that song
it, we got to play iton the radio, so talking about it
and it just it really was whenyou I mean, just take like the
singles, okay, just take smellslike teen Spirit and then Heart Shaped Box.

(01:08:39):
There's progression there, oh absolutely,And then you know, you know,
you're right, an album full ofthat that would have been amazing.
Why just to plow your fucking headoff that album would have been unbelievable as
selfish music fans, you know whatI mean, If you just put it
that way, if you look atit through that lens, I mean,

(01:09:00):
I was so excited about that song, but then after I listened to it,
I was so bummed out that Iwas like, this is fucking where
they were going. Yes, andyou know, obviously the band was not
going to stick around for very long, but they would have gotten back together.
I think they would have come andgone, I really do. I
think they would have went, fuckit, guys at mission, let's go
do another album and bang it out, and it would have been it would
have been the last Nirvana album though, yes, for a long time.

(01:09:23):
I think it would have been it. But god, man, to see
where it would have went, Ohmy god, it's so so great.
So yeah, we did get too. My top two were you know,
the songs that you chose as well, So pulled up the album No Alternative,
Nice Matthew, Sweet Buffalo, tomUrge, over Kill Again. These

(01:09:44):
were all like these were all likethrowaway tracks from these bands, you know
that they just kind of donated tothe album, you know, whatever they
had extra laying around. You wereright on the Google Dolls with the incredible
Lance Diamond. They did a coverof Bitch Nice Billy Corgan, Smashing Pumpkins,
Bob Mould, Sarah McLaughlin. SoundGarden is on there with a song

(01:10:05):
called show Me. I don't rememberthat song. I have the album.
Uncle Tupelo is on their Beastie Boys, the Breeders, Patti Smith, Nirvana,
Versus Chorus Verse, Sonic Youth,I mean, huge, huge names
on that album. I remember listeningto it and I remember it being full

(01:10:28):
of Okay, yeah, these arethings that weren't good enough to make their
albums, you know. But butyou're right. The Nirvana song was a
standout Google Dolls covers because I lovecovers, but it was a really good
cover and it was weird. Youknow, Google Dolls they get on this
album. It's a big deal forthem to be mentioned because they weren't on
the level of Smashing Pumpkins, andthey weren't on the level of Nirvana,

(01:10:48):
and you know, even the Breeders, sound Garden, Sarah McLaughlin. But
when somebody picked up that album,it wasn't Johnny singing. It was a
lounge singer from Buffalo, you know. Incredible that they worked with who you
know, when you listen to that, there's just there's just cool oozing out
of that. I mean, there'sso much cool losing out of that because

(01:11:09):
Lance Diamond was fucking cool man.He was a badass, and he just
added something to that bad It's likeI kind of wish they did a few
more songs with him back of theday, you know, because they were
so well done. Can never takethe place of your man. That's the
best song. That's the best songthat the Google Dills do with the incredible
Lance Diamond. It's a Prince cover. Cha la la la. It's so

(01:11:32):
great. It's it's so freaking great. I can never take the place of
your man Prince cover. Look itup Google Dolls and then you'll just it'll
be Lance Diamond, will just LanceDiamond comes in at no extra charge.
When you looked that up to golisten to it. It's it's spectacular.
But yeah, so yeah, no, it was weird doing the Nirvana thing.
Man. I'm like, okay,well here we go, and again

(01:11:54):
you know what it's hard for forwhat I do and what you do for
a living. It's like, I'mnot putting lithium on there. Is it
a great song? You bet yourass it is. I'm not putting I
love coming as you are because Ilove that sound, that that kind of
drippy guitar and everything is very cool. But again, I mean, dude,

(01:12:15):
I nope, don't eat it.It's like, if you're working at
McDonald's every day, you're gonna getthat whopper on your Sunday off, maybe
I guess, but probably not.Aren't we going to get a Nirvana biopic?
I think there's a lot of movingparts within. Courtney Love is the
problem. Courtney Love's a problem.She's not going to sign off on anything.
She's gonna be the wrench in theworks. But god, I would
love it. I would. Ithink there'd be a lot to uncover there.

(01:12:39):
I mean, she stands to makea lot of money if it's made.
You know, you know what,you know what really needs to be
made. The Dave Growls story needsto be made, because that takes Nirvana.
He would be the thread. He'sthe story because he does all this
shit goes from that goes through foodfight, it creates food. But that's
the story, you know what Imean. And the obviously the recent tragedy,

(01:13:01):
I mean, that's terrible, butthat's an arc in a story that's
I think you gotta do the Davestory. Eventually, anything gonna happen soon.
Yeah, I don't think you doit while he's doing what he's doing.
You know, he's too busy doingshit he do. He's too busy
doing being real and active. Soyeah, but I do. I do
think that that's that is a bandthat if you recognize and you would have

(01:13:25):
to include these other bands, evenif it was just the Flannel four that
we just got done talking about itin a previous podcast. I really do
think that Nirvana is it's there forthe taking. I think it's mass appeal
enough, you know, I don'tlook at it like how we talked about
Motley Crue the Dirt straight to Netflix, Kiss is straight to Netflix, I

(01:13:51):
believe. I haven't heard anything aboutthat movie. By the way, I
haven't heard anything other than it wasgonna happen. I think Nirvana is big
screen. I do. I aslong as you're recognizing that, you also
have to kind of talk about themovement and all of that and and and

(01:14:13):
grunge and how it changed the culture. And you know, you would even
have to kind of include you know, some hair bands in there, and
you know them fucking freaking out.You know, you have to get somebody
to play Brett Michael's going, whatthe fuck is this Nirvana shite? We're
done over my record anymore. You'dhave to include some of that stuff.
You'd have to you'd have to includewhat crumbled too. I just I think

(01:14:36):
there's something there. I do well, I think then, but I also
have to try and figure out away to work in, you know,
the fact that there's other elements happening. There's gen X, there's there's the
movies, like the singles movie thatcomes out, you know, and there's
just all these elements. There's justagain, it's lightning in a bottle.
It's it's it was the perfect songfor the perfect time. You know that
hits any other time doesn't quite dowhat it did. I don't know,

(01:14:59):
But there there are so many elementsswirling around it. You almost have to
come in and bring all those elementsinto play as well. Know, Yeah,
there's so much in the fashion tookoff and just everything. Well,
you know how it ends. Sothe movie kind of ends dark, you
know, Yeah, it's all dark. Everybody knew how the Elvis movie was
gonna end. Yeah, it didn'tend well, let's just say it wasn't
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Jazz working at the car show?Are you gonna be working? Are you
even bringing clubs? No? Idon't bring clubs anymore. No. We
used to do all those golf tournamentsand me and you'd be like, oh,
I got my clubs. Meet trueand we go and we get out

(01:16:51):
there, and I'm like, didyou even fuck though? I just drive
bother I don't even Yeah, Idon't even pretend anymore. I don't bring
the clubs. I just walk aroundand hang out with everybody, and you
know, it's my job just togo around and make sure but he's having
a good time and you know it. You know what's funny is years later
I got invited to like a legitgolf tournament, right, Like, I

(01:17:14):
didn't know what a legit golf tournamentwas, like a you know, the
scramble, what do they call it? The shotgun start or whatever it is,
right, and uh, and I'mthinking I've cruised up and I'm like,
oh, yeah, this would begreat. Beers everywhere. It's gonna
be fucking crazy. Because the radioones we used to do were pretty fucking
legal. Were great. Yeah,they were great. And uh and I
show up, I'm like, allright, here we going, and yeah,

(01:17:35):
we golfed. It was weird.I didn't quite understand what's going on.
I was so late, I wasso often in doubt the direction.
And then when I had to actuallylegit golf and shit, I'm like,
oh, well, what the hellis this? I thought we were just
gonna see strippers and have fun.God. Yeah, not all golf tournaments
are like the ones that we usedto do or do. Yeah, it's
not like that. But you getused to a certain thing in life,

(01:17:57):
and then when you do something elseit's weird, like like it. For
a while, I was on onradio for a couple of years, and
I went and became a civilian,as we like to call it, right,
I came. I became as aas a cousin would say, I
became a normy. I came.I became a normal human being. And
I didn't know what to do withmyself because I would say shit, ha
ha, I'm thinking it is funny, and people just look at me and
shock. I'm like, okay,I'm not I'm not saying anything anymore because

(01:18:19):
you get a costume to the workplacethat you're in and it's like it really
will don't don't go be a normyrod, don't do it. Well,
you're not like this, You're not. I don't like this because because you're
in van Halen. You're in vanHalen because you're like this. Yeah,
I'm not. I'm not like thisbecause I'm on the radio. I'm on

(01:18:43):
the radio because I'm like this,that's your sweet how come you had that
one done? Yeah? Come on, I can do all your ship for
you. Come on, dude,any final thoughts. Yeah. So we
on Sunday, the kid and I. We get up in the morning.
She knows it's football. She's kindof you know, she doesn't really care

(01:19:03):
so much about the game, butshe's just you know, Josh Allen Buffalo
Bills. She wants to wear Billsstuff. I'm into it, Okay,
she's into it a little bit.It's cool. We eat ant Sue sent
us a box of Josh Jack's thatthe cereal is called. Really, that's
the cereal Josh Jacks. Fluty Flakesare is still the winner, man,

(01:19:24):
I mean Josh Jacks. That's thatfeels a little, that feels a little
trying. That's trying pretty hard.Here's an old last year's model Josh Jacks,
no j a q S Jacks.Well, you gotta get the people
in Canada excited about them too.For those of you that don't know,
General Mills is in Buffalo and theymake cheerios downtown. You can smell them,

(01:19:48):
and you can smell cheerios and she'spretty good. So if you've heard
most people have probably heard of FlutyFlakes. Yeh, like fucking and the
quarterback in Buffalo has his own breakfastcereal. Kind of cool. And then
you know, retroactively, they madeyou know, Kelly's heroes, and then
when we signed Terrell Owens, wehad t O's and then there was even

(01:20:10):
you know, Ryan Miller had hisown cereal from the Sabers. And you
know, my sister always sends methis stuff. So Josh Allen has his
own breakfast cereal. All right,now you're caught up. So we're eating
our cereal, okay, and thenmy kid says I'm done. I'm like,
whoa fucking there's milk in there.There's a couple of like loopers in

(01:20:32):
there, and there's milk. Myquestion this morning is, when you're done
with your cereal, do you drinkthe remaining milk out of the bowl?
I just kind of assumed that everyperson on the planet drank that sugary ass
milk with the cement at the bottomand everything, right, it was the
best part. Or if you havea lot of milk, fucking load it

(01:20:54):
up with some more cereal. Hitit again. So I tell my kid,
I'm like, you drink the that'sthe best part. She's like,
I don't want it. I'm You'renot my kid. You can't be mine.
You cannot be mine if you're notdrinking that. So of you think
fat boy throws it away. No, I drank mine. Then I drank
hers. Yeah, of course.I did a poll question this morning,
when you're done with your cereal,do you drink the remaining milk out of

(01:21:15):
the bowl? Seventy five percent ofpeople yeah, fourteen percent, sometimes ten
percent, never, never, youdon't drink the milk that remains after you're
done eating your delicious cereal. Weirdos, Man, don't ask about things that
you don't want to know the answerto. I just assume that everybody did
it. Now, I think peopleare weird. That's something you find you

(01:21:39):
weird if you don't do if youdon't drink the milk, what's wrong with
you? That is something you putin your tindered profile. I think at
this point you need to we needto know this. If you're gonna go
out man, hitting something, yougotta you gotta know this. So a
couple of things I know about this. Yes, A right, I will
drink that shit. I'm not awaster when it comes to that. I'm
not wasting. But here's the thing. As I've progressed in age, when

(01:21:59):
I do eat cereal, I kindof know the ratio to ceretal milk.
So I've got it timed out andmeasured just about right. So when I
get down there, there's very littleleft. I've got it kind of worked
out. After seventy five years offucking eating cereal. I kind of got
it, you know what I mean. But whatever its left though you're up
there, Yeah, it's done.But there's very it's usually very little,

(01:22:19):
okay, okay, But back inthe day, you know, when you
got the cool, awesome cereal likecocoa puffs and the fruity pebbles and shit,
that milk was like that was thebest part of the damn thing.
And it was some men everloaded itwith extra milk because you knew that drink
at the end was going to bekick ass drink your fucking milk. Why
would you waste it? Don't wasteit, you know what I mean.

(01:22:41):
Don't waste it. So that ledme to believe. But that led me
to this. If I'm eating soif I'm eating a bag of chips,
okay, and I get the lastdecent one that you're gonna grab, there's
clearly a bunch of stuff in there, Okay, crumb. Let me tell
you, Chubsi's. I'm I'm makinga valley in that Dorito's bag, and

(01:23:04):
I am I am eating everything that'sin that bag. I am not throwing
away all of that awesome chipness that'sin that bag. Again, why would
you wasted It's still there, It'sstill good. Like, I don't go
chip valley out of the bag,you know, what I mean, I'm

(01:23:25):
not doing that. I'm not circuscealing the thing. But I will pour
it in my hand and I willgo, i will go horse out of
a feedbag. I'll just lick itout of there that way and bag right
to my fat face. And I'mI'm eating all of those chip, those
wonderful little bits that some of themare just absolutely coated in all the dust.

(01:23:47):
Awesome again, I mean, thisis this is just I thought that
was just a normal human thing.There's certain things you expect out of life,
and it's drinking the milks and eatingthe crumbs out of the bottom of
the chip. I mean, thechips are good. It's not like,
you know, maybe you're not ahuge fan of broccoli and there's a couple
of little guys kind of chilling onyour plate and you're like, yeah,
I'm good, Okay, I gotyou. I'm okay with that. The

(01:24:10):
milk in the cereal is fucking goldand the chip dust is spectacular wonderful.
Right, I think I've figured outnow. I know that this is probably
not a huge problem for you,but some people can't sleep at night.
Rod. There are people in thisworld, which is most who can't sleep
at night, They toss, theyturn. You know, I've literally resorted

(01:24:31):
to counting sheep. I don't takeit for granted, dude. I like,
I don't even like talking about itbecause I fall asleep so easily,
and I know, it's like likean awesome thing that I have in my
life. It's like the one coolthing that I have. So it's like
I don't want to talk about itbecause I don't want it to go away,
because I realize what a problem itis for people. It's brutal,

(01:24:53):
and I have that same I havethis problem all the time. So I
just start thinking of shit and it'slike fuck, So I I think I
got a solution for people. Andit ain't drugs. It ain't fucking listening
to this podcast to put you asleepat night. Don't do that. That's
not fair or funny. I justtried this one night out of the blue.
I don't know if I read itsomewhere, but I tried this.

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So you know how when you likego on vacation, right, You go
on vacation and you go somewhere andyou just there's a moment in that vacation
where you're doing something and you rememberit vividly. Okay. For instance,
I went to the beach I don'tknow, weeks ago, and I would
get up every other day at sixam and walk quarter of a mile and
then go to a pier and gofish on my son. Right. But

(01:25:38):
at six am there's nobody out.It's quiet, you know. And so
what I did was because I enjoyedthat walk so much. I tried to
recreate the work, no visually inmy mind. I'm recreating so and I'm
doing it from stepping out of thebed. I'm like, okay, the
lamp was blue, and I'm tryingto throw every possible, trying to really

(01:26:00):
focus on the details, and likeokay. And then I would go and
I'd make I'd grab a cup ofcoffee, I grab the cooler, grab
the fish, and poles out thedoor, down the elevator and oh yeah,
this had the dog walking lady wasthere every morn And I'm painting the
picture I've got. I've yet toget to the pier. Like I have
yet to get to the pier.I fall asleep, like it's I don't

(01:26:21):
know what it works. It works. I don't even get out of the
building hardly if it works. Itworks, dude, But but it's gotta
be something you like. You gotto pick out something that you can remember
all the and as you start buildingit in your mind, you'll start seeing
the color of the floor, thewallpaper, the you know, oh,
there's the Eiffel Tower in the distance, or wherever you were on vacation or

(01:26:43):
whatever. Recreate it vividly, andyou won't get to your destination. Man,
you knocked right out. It works. I don't know why. I
like if I walked myself through theprom nineteen eighty seven, the Bitto Perry
Niagara Falls Boulevard, the vibrating Bartlesand James that we were drinking. You
think if I walk myself through allof that, I'll fall asleep before the

(01:27:05):
fun stuff happened. Yeah, becauseyou're getting out of the station wagon and
you're like fuck and you're like damnit, and then you park a lot
and you remember, like fixing thecuff on your shirt, Like you really
got to go detail heavy. Yeah, really, it really painted the forts
yourself to paint the picture, Like, look around, but you won't get
out of the fucking bed hardly.I thought I was very detailed with my

(01:27:26):
Bartles and James reference. I don'tknow, man, but it's worked.
I've yet, I've yet to evenget close to the pier and fish on
my journey that I tried to create, And man, it works every time.
I'm like, okay, take thewalk, and I just start taking
the walk and boom gone done.If if it was a problem for me
to fall asleep, I would nolonger be weed curious. I would be

(01:27:47):
partaking in weed. Okay, ifI just I would not be able to
afford to not be able to fallasleep with the little amount of sleep that
I get. Right, Yeah,I'm not crying and whining about it.
I'm just saying this is what Ichose to do. But I mean,
I get that six hours every day. If it was a problem, I'd

(01:28:08):
be weeds number one customer. Youknow, I really would. There's no
question about it. So whether it'scoming and you know, and I've got
some gummies here and stuff, andyou know they're nighttime gummies, and but
it's legal stuff. It's not likethe good good stuff. I don't know
what it is. I don't knowwhat it is. We've come down this
road before. We don't know whatthe fuck it is, yeah, we

(01:28:28):
don't, but I'm freaking out.It's like, boom, I'll take one
of these gummies. I'm like,okay, I'll go to sleep. Great,
so let me throw this out.And I know we're trying to wrap
up, you know what, weshould just start the podcast here and then
just get rid of the rest ofthe ship. But so in the last
two months, I've had a lotof different conversation with a lot of different
people, right as you would inlife, but the same thing has come
up a few times. Like anythingseems to work in cycles. So I'm

(01:28:53):
talking to a buddy of mine fromyears ago and we're just telling stories and
stuff. He goes, yeah,you know, back in my cocaine days,
blah blah blah blah blah blah,tell some story, tell some story,
bad things. And I went okay, And I don't, okay,
what if you did blow back inthe date whatever? You're young, Who
gives a shit? Do you think? Another? Like a week and a
half later, I'm talking to aguy in the record business, and of

(01:29:15):
course those guys you know, andand he goes, yeah, he goes,
you know, I'm back in mywhen I was doing blow and I'm
like, ah, okay, wellthat's a second one. And then I
had like five or six people overthe course of like six weeks do the
old well back when I was doingblow back, when I was doing cocaine,
and I'm thinking to myself, Imust have missed it because I don't
have those reference points. I didn'thave I don't have the you know,

(01:29:38):
back when I'm doing blow I don'thave those stories either. But it's like
so many of them kept coming up, and I'm like, mother fuck,
I missed that. On the blowI was only really around it a couple
of times. To be honest withyou, I mean, it just wasn't
always around. I'm glad I wasn'taround it that much, but the times
that I was around it, it'sjust like, nah, no way.

(01:30:00):
The only thing that I did issomebody must have been cutting up some shit
on my drums or I'm like oneof my drum cases back in the day.
So it was in my van andthere was some residue on it,
So there was some cocaine residue.I don't think I've ever shared this with
you, but there was, youremember, and I don't. I don't
really have any reference. I don'treally know how to do coke or anything

(01:30:21):
like that, but I know thatscarface. After he got done doing it,
then he'd like rumps him on hisfucking teeth. Yeah, really numbs
your gums or some shit. Hegets it helps dude. So there was
a little bit on there and Ijust like, oh, fuck it,
and I rubbed it on my teethand I felt like a monkey face,
like I felt like Planet of theApes, Like my mouth was in front

(01:30:42):
of my face. I've honest thegun like I didn't get high at all,
but the numbing qualities and the numbingproperties of it, just that little
bit I felt like the I don'tknow how else to put it, like
I had like a dog nose orsomething like my mouth was dend it away
from my face snout. Like ithappened almost instantly. Wow, it's like

(01:31:05):
this. I got like this.I rub it on my gums, and
all of a sudden, my fuckingface grew like the American werewolf in London.
It's exactly what it felt like.If you know the reference, you
know the reference, you know thisPinocchio face. Man, it just grew.

(01:31:29):
It happened. That's the only timeso I guess I want to say,
you know, did you ever doblow Like? No, but really
it rubbed some of my gums onceand I felt like a monkey head.
I can't imagine snarfing that ship then, can you imagine? Oh my god
that no wonder people do it?But yeah, I just I think it
was off. But you damn dirtyape. Yeah, so that's that's my

(01:31:51):
back in my blow days, backin my cocaine monkey head monkey face days.
The German Shepherd of north Ton ofOne. Yeah, dude, honest
to god, it really did.It's like I could feel it growing.
Yeah, apparently there's a lot ofpeople there with back in the days of

(01:32:12):
when I was doing blow stories.I just was kind of like blown away
that it kind of hit me abunch of times in a short period of
time. It's like, Okay,I obviously missed a train somewhere along the
road. Yeah. Yeah, Iwasn't around it. I wasn't interested,
No, no, I have nodesire, didn't care. I didn't want
to do it all right. Well, guys, thanks so much for checking

(01:32:32):
this podcast out. Man. Wewould appreciate you subscribing. I did catch
a couple of you subscribing, Somaybe we need to kind of say that
throughout the podcast. I probably wasanother like I made a note right here
mentioned subscribe during the podcast. Don'twait till the fucking very end when nobody's
listening. So the subscriptions are cool. Sign up to get notifications so that

(01:32:55):
you know when it drops, sowhen Jason uploads it in the middle of
the night, boom, you'll haveit there. It'll be on your phone
in the morning. So subscribing ishuge. Top five Nirvana songs. You
guys have been killing it with yourtop fives. Your top fives are so
much better than ours, so always, you know, the best place to
leave them is on our YouTube pageat play pants Pod. But you know,

(01:33:17):
Twitter and Facebook and Instagram at playpants Pod. It's really funny how
like everyone's lists are better than ours. I'm starting to think maybe everyone else
you do a podcast and then wesit back and just listen to the damn
thing because it probably gonna better.I mean, you know, when you
think about it, Yeah, youguys should just do podcasts and we'll leave
top We'll just whatever you're doing yourtop fives on, we'll just add ours
to yours. But you know you'vegot an all fairness, you know,

(01:33:40):
you know how one like there's someonesays something, but then you can come
up with a million ideas. Itis a little bit easier once someone's already
kind of laid out some groundwork.I'm just saying, I love the suggestions.
And by the way, that guythat gave me his grunge list,
he said, you guys have notdone a top five Smashing Pumpkins song.
Listen what well? I think Igot a couple of what we come up

(01:34:00):
with a TV show theme songs wouldbe a good one, and the Smashing
Punkins. I love that idea.Here's what I'm gonna almost demand. I'm
gonna demand that they're broken out seventies, eighties, nineties for TV. It's
just too much, man. Imean, even like with the with the
videos that was when that idea waskind of introduced to me, we really

(01:34:25):
could have done, you know,eighties and nineties. I'm really, you
know, done a real service tovideos with a top five from me each
decade. And I think with TV, you know, homes almost I mean
if my all time TV shows,I mean like Game of Thrones is a
TV show, right, Yes,I think that counts. Yeah, So

(01:34:45):
like you're gonna have you're gonna havethat and Sandford and Son on the same
fucking list. I mean, thoseare the same you're telling me those are
Those are both television shows, right, yeah, The Love Boat and yeah
and Bad Yeah right, Colombo andGame of Thrones, night Rider and yeah,
I know, night night Rider andThe Wire those are TV shows,

(01:35:09):
right, Yeah, maybe not nightWriter. So what I'm saying is there's
no way that you're gonna put thefucking Brady bunch in Game of Thrones on
the same goddamn list. We wouldhave to do seventies, eighties and then
today, like nineties up until today. Yeah, I'd be or you know,
eighties, seventies, eighties, andI would even be okay with nineties

(01:35:30):
up till today. Yeah. Ithink that's fair because after that it's the
TV theme kind of fall apart,you know what I mean? All Right,
I think we got a couple oflists now stacked away that we can
actually borrow from here in the nextfew weeks. So I like that.
I mean, one Day at atime and Breaking Bad they're TV shows,
right, They're both television shows.Yeah, No, I mean, you

(01:35:53):
know, w krap and Cincinnati andfriends, what are you Gonna Do?
Yeah? Those are two very goodones, I'll be honest. All right,
that's enough. Check us out onour socials, Facebook, Twitter,
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