Top 5 Blood songs. Rockstar quotes. Mr. Blonde.

It’s national Donate Blood week so we thought we’d run down our Top 5 favorite songs about blood or bleeding. Remember John Lennon’s quote about the Beatles being more popular than Jesus? Well other rockstars have said some pretty silly stuff over the years. What were the top Alternative rock songs from June of 1995? We have the list and you’ll be surprised at how many great songs are on it! What is an appropriate age to show you kids certain movies? When should they see Wizard of Oz? What age should they see all the superhero movies? What about Tarantino movies? Yeah, good luck with that! Check out www.thebuzz.com for great Rod Ryan show merch and when in New Orleans be sure to take the Pirate tour! www.piratesofthequarter.com

Episode Transcript

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Oh, going in. You're gonnaraw dog this one, right, You're
not just gonna go in at rawall right, let me start. I'll
start because I got a microphone,so we'll just let me do it.
Sure, you should probably talk themost. Oh no, I don't want
to feel I get bored already.Let's go. Episode eighty nine of the

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play pants Pod cast Rod Ryan JasonGuinty fired up. Rod is not using
headphones. And what happens if you'venever watched this on our YouTube channel,
which by the way, you canplay pants Pod on YouTube, is is
you put on some headphones. Yougot yourself a microphone, and it runs
through some gear at each of ourhome studios and then it all through magic

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of some sort that I haven't figuredout yet. It works well. Rod's
got some gear trouble over there,so he's just gonna raw dog it.
So if his audio sounds a littledifferent on this episode, shit happens.
What can we do, right,Rod? I mean, what are we
gonna do? We're just gonna gowith it. How bad? Is it
sound? Bad? Awful? Imean, you know people are gonna listen.

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It's all right. I'll just dothe talking, Okay, how about
there you just look, you justsit there and look funny. What kind
of headphones are those? You justbusted out some old seventies? Does that
have a radio in those headphones?Yeah, dude, so they're called airmates.
I've actually got a cooler one thanthis. It must be my other
cabinet. But yeah, this iswhat people used to listen to, like
portable radios. If you're watching uson the YouTube channel, you had the

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little tune or right here you canlisten to the radio. Okay, question
do those work? Those really work? So could you bust out like you're
walking around Houston? You could bejust listening to your station and I could.
I could walk around and listen tothe buzz with these. Yeah,
these ones work, and then theother ones. I got another pair.
I'll bust them out in a littlebit. But yeah, sorry, guys,

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this is the best I can dowith the microphone. So there's been
some storms here in Houston, andthere was I remember a point last weekend
sitting here and the power went rootroute and it came back and I had
nothing happened in my house except apparentlymy fucking board fried out. So that's

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awesome and apparently you've been doing nowork in the whole week, so you
haven't had a chance to test itout. So you know what, as
a matter of I mean, I'vebeen working on the computer, but you're
right, Yeah, I've done nothinglike that I needed to do on that
shit. That's what it is.But how would you know? Like my
shit sits here. I literally getup after this is done every week and
walk away and don't touch any ofthis ship for another week so I can

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see where it happens. Anyway,we had a lot of shit to cover
today, man. First of all, Um, I want to get into
dumb shit. Some rock stars havesaid over the years, some uh,
some really dumb shot of you sawthis most pretentious thing. Some of our
favorite rock stars have said, Uh, it's this, It's just kind of
goofy. But I want to getsome thoughts on that. Um, the

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movie Reservoir Dogs. Hey, we'reTarantino fans. It's all we ever talked
about on this podcast besides the foodFighters, Kiss and van Halen is Quentin
Tarantino and Reservoir Dogs. Right,I want to get your thoughts on the
movie. And I want to explainsomething that I did over the weekend with
the reservoir Dogs. We'll get intothat. And then you sent me something

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about was it National Donate Blood Daythe day of this recording. I did
send you some stuff. Thanks forlooking at it. World Blood Donor Day.
That's it. I remember this,And apparently the date is kind of
like on the day that the guykind of figured out how to do like
blood transfusion. So every year Junefourteenth it Blood Donor Day. And you

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know I'm a blood donor. It'san important thing. So I sent over
to you. I said, songswith the word blood in the title,
or if the song is about blood, you know, there's a chance that
it's gonna be in the title.But if you have some song that is

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just totally they're talking about blood thewhole time and it's not the title,
it'll go. But I couldn't believehow many I came up with on this
one, really, because I strugglea little bit. Of course, why
don't we struggle at all on thisone? Really? Okay, I think
I think our list will be Ithink I'm just gonna go on a limb
here. I'm gonna say we're gonnahave two of the same songs, and
then it's gonna be different. Afterthat, I'm gonna say we're gonna have

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two of the same on our lists. Yes, I think it's there's too
obvious. And then and there aresome wildcats in there, and there's a
few that didn't make my list,but we're good. So we'll run down
our top five favorite songs about blood. And as soon as you said it,
I went yes, because it's different, it's unique, it's weird,

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it's bizarre, and we'll do that. And then I just ha to be
looking. It's some shit today andthis came across. I don't know if
you saw this. I busted out, since this is what we do for
living radio. This is for theweek ending June tenth. Shit June tenth,
nineteen ninety five. This is thecharts, the Modern Rock Chart,

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June tenth, nineteen ninety five.Now, we've talked about the best years
of music before ninety one. We'vesaid ninety seven is good. I just
want to run down some of thelists. This is what you and I
in nineteen ninety five would have beenlooking at to figure out what kind of
music to play on our radio stations. Okay, nineteen ninety five. Look,
listen to this shit. This ishow crazy this chart was. The

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number one song in nineteen ninety fiveon the Alternative rock charts was Soul Asylum's
Misery. Remember that song? Yeah, great song. Nobody plays it anymore.
Somehow that one disappeared off the faceof the earth. Number two Collective
sold December. People are still playingthat. Okay, number three better than

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Ezra Good, ok ninety five.About that time, those guys were up
in Buffalo, when we were workingin Buffalo. Remember they came in,
you interviewed him. Good was amonster. I was number three, Bush
Little Things at number four, Liveall over you at five, Green Day
Sheet, It's six. Matthew Sweetsick of myself. Oh elastica connection.

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I mean, listen to this fuckinglist. This is great shit. White
Zombie more human than humans in there, Sponge Molly nine in Nails Hurt.
Nineteen eighty five was a sick yearfor music, Mad Season, River of
Deceit, Filter, hey man,nice shot dude. Ninety five was pretty
badass. I just want to throwthat at you, because that's when we

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were just cracking the code and doingsomething. That's what we first got our
jobs was it ninety five? Right? Wasn't it six ish? So that
time, that's what we were listeningto. That was the heat of the
moment of one of you, andI really kind of got going in alternative
radio. It's crazy. Well wegot so we get hired in Buffalo nine
five I believe it was ninety five, Yeah, because then by nineties September

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ninety six, we're here in Newwork Well where we moved to New Orleans.
Yeah, Swoo Fighters ninety five,right, Foo Fighter's debut album.
Yeah, yeah, I'll stick around. Uh and uh yeah the other song
I can't think of right now anyway, but yeah, I just don't need
to run down to the call.This is a call. Yeah, those
are the two songs, and Iremember distinctly them coming and going, hey,

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this is the drummer from Nirvana.He's got a band, it's the
Food Fighters, and everyone is justkind of like, okay, all right,
I see what's going on here.The drummer from Nirvana is gonna try
and do something okay, cool,and we all kind of blew it off.
I remember everyone's gonna go, that'snice. And then obviously we were
all fucking wrong. What wrong?The second week, like, oh shit,

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is that good? It's a prettygreat year. I mean so,
I mean, as a program director, how many songs? I know it's
not even a week anymore? Orbut if you were to add new music
on your radio station, would itbe a couple of songs a month?
Would it be a couple songs aweek? How would that work? Now?

(08:11):
I really don't know the answer tothis question. You know, it's
very very strange because usually I'm goodfor maybe one a week maybe? And
is there still something as an officialad? Like we're adding this record into
rotation so that it helps it toThis is what they do when they keep
track of the charts and everything.This is what they did back in the

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day. I'm sure it's still donethis way. But I've just been out
of that game for such a longtime. So is it an official add
or you just decide to start playingsomething. I just start playing it.
That's kind of the company policy forthe company I work for. And then,
of course, after a few daysor it gets it, they start
seeing what they call spins. There'sa there's a service called BDS and Media
Base. It charts every time youplay a song, and then you start

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adding to the aggregate of all thespins and that goes into your charts.
Right, So I'm good for likemaybe one a week and then sometimes none.
I'll go a few weeks with none. The last three weeks, I'm
not I've not done shit. I'venot moved anything, because what we got
right now is pretty solid out there. We've got some good shit. You
got the Lincoln Park, you gotthe new food Fighters. I mean,
there's a lot of really solid musicright now. So the year that you

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had mentioned nineteen ninety five ninety six, I'm starting to get into being a
music director ninety six, ninety seven, ninety eight. So I'm the music
director. So I'm going through allthe charts. I'm dealing with the record
labels and everything. Dude, we'readding four and five songs a week.
Well, you saw the list.There was so much good stuff that was
just coming out, and this isdude, a week we were adding a

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slow week would be adding three songs. Just absolutely crazy. There was just
this pool of twenty five songs atall time that you know was being in
consideration for being to get it radioairplay on the stations, and there was
just so much music there was somuch great stuff. It really was,

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and I mean it was fun,it was great. I mean, you
know, we all loved and livethe music and stuff. But you didn't
think about the day that it wasgoing to go away. And unfortunately,
you know, the good old daysdon't feel like that while you're in them.
You don't realize there were the goodold days until you're you know,
twenty and thirty years removed from it. I you know what I think,

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though, we didn't recognize what washappening because we're so in it, you
know, you're so up your ownass. In the middle of all that
ship. We were a we're tryingto do radio, we're trying to start
a careers, make money. Thewhole thing New City and the music was
great. I mean we were luckyas shit. And we've talked about that
on this podcast before. How likewe walked into it all at the perfect

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time. You know, you getlucky in life, but you have to
make your own luck. You know. It's funny because when you say you're
adding four or five songs a week, back then something has to be removed
to add the new, and nowadaysa lot of stuff will go up the
charts, and then it goes awayand you never hear it again. It
doesn't stick. It doesn't go towhat we call your gold library. Right

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you're playing the Goal, you're playingthe Nirvana as the Pearl Jams, all
the old shit that's called your goldlibrary. Most of the ship now that
we play doesn't stick back then.You just heard me run down that list
of songs. I know my stationis still probably playing. Of all the
songs I just mentioned, there's liketwo that we're not playing on a regular
basis. Most of those songs werestill playing, and I'm sure you guys

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are playing most of those as wellin your gold library. Things didn't stick
around today like they do back then. That music was staying on your radio
station. Yeah. Yeah, itwas fun. I mean it really,
it really was fun. You're right. I mean, we've kind of gone
in and I've just been blown awaywhen we've done like featured years and things,
and when you're hitting that sweet spot, when you're hitting that sweet spot

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from ninety four to two thousand,Holy shit, man. The I mean
it's not that there wasn't great musicin other eras, but there was just
so much great music coming at us. NonStop. And that again, that's
when the music that we liked wasthe most popular music in the country.

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Yeah, it was the most popularmusic. Right now, pop music and
rap music is the most popular music, but for a while, that alternative
stuff, that's what everybody was listeningto. Man, it was awesome.
Yeah, and what you had twoback then it was your top forty station
used to be like the top stationin your market. Back in that time
period, there were a lot ofalternative stations beating the top forties. In

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that era, late late nineties,early two thousands, alternative stations end up
beating your top forties because that wasthe ship, that was the cool station.
I didn't want to go down thisroad very long because we've done it
before, but I just want tothrow out that list I just happened to
come across today. I'm like,Jesus, look at all these freaking songs.
Man, it's incredible. It's twothousand and twenty three, and I

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know an alternative station that's beating atop forty station right now. Yeah,
that's right, that's right. Itain't in New Orleans yet. We're getting
there, baby, We're getting therehere in New Orleans. M dude.
So over the weekend, I didsomething and I wasn't wasn't my idea,
and I thought, man, I'vebeen dying to do this for a few

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years, but I knew I haveto wait till the right moment. Right,
And we're talking about like we're it'shot as fuck outside. You're not
doing anything, it's so hot.So my wife he finally shaved your balls.
You know, I haven't done ina while. I gotta be honest,
I haven't done that in a while. So I don't want to really
talk about that. But so mywife's like, you know, we gotta
start. We should start watching differentmovies with with our son, Henry.

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Right, he's gonna be fifteen ina couple of months. Great, So
she's like, you know, Iwas talking to some friends and like,
Tarantino, I know how you're ahuge fan and I'm a huge fan,
and that's the that's the that's thefucking gold right there. So I'm like,
I don't know, man, that'sthat's some fucked up shit. And
I'm like, man, the violenceand stuff. And then I started thinking

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about it. I'm like, youknow what, you watch all those dumb
superhero movies all the Guardians, theGalaxy and the Thor's and all that shit.
That is a shit ton of violence. Now it's cleaned up, there
ain't blood everywhere, but it's beatingthe shit out of each other for four
hours in those movies. And he'sseen a lot of other movies like that.
I'm like, you know what thisI'm like. And so then we

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talked about, Okay, which Tarantinofilms should we start him with? So
it kind of went kill Bill.I'm like, that's pretty fucking brutal,
you know. And I'm like,well, he's not gonna get the Once
upon a Time in Hollywood ship AndI'm like, pulp fiction, no way,
that's way too fucked up. Wheredo we start? So my wife's
like, well, why don't westart him at the beginning and let him
take the journey. I'm like,Jesus Reservoir dogs man, that's like shot

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in the basement. It's it's it'swhen you watch it, it looks old,
you know what I mean. Itfeels old the music. He's not
gonna get all the ship that goeson in that movie. I'm like,
I go, yeah, But he'spretty savvy. He gets shit I'm like,
Okay, So I sat down withmy fourteen year old I watched fucking
Reservoir Dogs, dude, and Iwas like, then, I didn't realize

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that there's a lot of sucking dicksand shit kind of I'm like, oh,
fuck, I forgot about those partsof the movie. You're talking about
the lang. Oh yeah, thelanguage in it is swearing. They don't
show that, but they say itNonStop, right, it's the anecdotes and
stuff and again swearing. Yeah,believe me, he's heard all the words,
trust me, in this house.He's hurt him. You know.
He doesn't say I'm ever, buthe's hurt him. But then, you

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know, and it got me thinking, and I'm like sitting and I'm like,
ah, Jesus Christ, he's talkingabout sucking a dick and Madonna taking
a deep and all this shit likea virgin that old anecdote in the beginning
of the movie. And I'm sittingthere and I'm just fucking cringing on the
couch next to my son. Areyou giggling during it at all? Are
you like, hey, is itjust funny? Like are you just are

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you guys just sitting there? Laserfocus going Oh my god, would you
please stop seeing suck dick right now? I kind of just going I've made
a horrible error. Okay, Sobut here's my point about that part of
the situation is, next thing,you know, there's gunshots, there's fucking
blood. Orange is just sitting ina pool of his own blood. They're
cutting off ears. I mean,it's pretty fucking violent. You think I

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worried about any of that shit.No, it's the sucking of the dicks
and a couple other references. That'swhat's fucked up. Well, there's a
society we're more concerned about that thanthe killing. The violence. We are
fucked up as a society. Man, I'm I'm worried about him being triggered
when he hears stuck in the middlewith you and he immediately goes back to

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you know, what is it,mister blonde? Mister blonde cutting just carving
that dude's ear off and dance.So I mean, just I mean,
what did he say? Okay,this is part B in the conversation.
So we're watching a movie and I'mjust kind of listening. I've seen the
movie ninety times. I don't needto watch it again, and it's still

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great, by the way, Andso I'm kind of listening to him,
and I'm kind of kind of peekingat and watching. I'm seeing what he's
doing, and he's paying attention,he's dialed in, he's watching. He's
not getting the Madonna references and someof the pop culture shit, and that's
okay. The tipping part he kindof laughed at that. He thought that
was funny, the world's smallest violinbit. The whole thing is he's laughing.

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He's chuckling at that because those aregood funny bits. And then like
they start flashing back to where theguys get their names and all the bullshit.
He's like, oh, that's dull. He's like like he's piecing it
all together because it jumps around intime when fucking Michael Madson gets up and
starts dancing right because he thought misterBlonde was the coolest as soon as he

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showed up. Like when he's sittingon the roof or on the on the
hearse in the in the warehouse andhe's sucking on the drink and it's like,
are you gonna bite little puppy dogor are you gonna or are you're
gonna bite bark are you're gonna bitethat whole classic line. My son starts
laughing his ass off. I'm like, oh shit, he's in the fucking
mister blonde. Oh no, what'sgonna happen with the ear? So he's

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fucking mister blonde is dancing around,he's got the knife and the gas,
and my son is laughing. He'sfucking laughing at mister blonde dancing with the
knife. He's laughing and he goesover and they do the whole ear cutting
off, and then he holds itup and he's swinging around and my son
is pissing his pants laughing. I'mlike, holy fuck. I've got to

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say he didn't. He laughed throughthe whole thing. He thought it was
fucking hysterical. He's like, oh, he's shit, he's cutting his ear
off. He didn't say shit.He goes WHOA. I think he was
shocked, but he was laughing becauseit was so ridiculous. I yes,
I don't know. And he's justkind of like, holy crap. And
then you know the whole thing andhe's laughing, like where you're supposed to

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laugh. You thought it was funnywhen orange shoots on spoiler alert. By
the way, when Orange shoots MichaelMaddson mister Blonde, he's laughing. He's
like, oh shit, he justshot him. Like because Quentin Tarantino writes
those things in a way to befunny, he's making the violence funny and
yeah, but still it's fucking brutal. Okay, Yeah, dude, he

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loved it. He fucking He's like, hang out a second, he loved
it, or he's like, that'spretty cool. Well, he thought it
was pretty cool. And he's like, I get I get what you guys
always talk about this director or whatever. You know, he doesn't get the
Tarantino thing. But he's like,because I know that Henry likes the superhero
stuff and the pacing of those moviescompared to even even if you went back,

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I'm you know, I wonder youknow what he he would think if
you watched Um, I don't know, would you ever like show him like
Rambo or like Arnold Schwarzenegger True Liesor anything like that. I guess maybe.
I mean, I never really gotinto Rambo, but you go back
to Indiana Jones, it's a slowerpace, but he loves that, you

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know, the original one. Hegets it, and no, yes,
he's probably like, all right,we get it, let's go, let's
move forward. But he got thereferences, he dug the story. He
loves how they built it all together, like he gets movies, you know,
and it's it's and the whole timejust going, oh my god,
what am I doing? What amI fucking doing? Is this too soon?
Is this too soon? And I'mlike, nah, he's already exposed.

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He's going to high school. I'mlike, he's exposed. It's too
late. Yeah, would he wouldhe turned the corner away from you guys?
What his buddies like, what areyou sucking a dick over there?
Like? I mean, would hebust that shit out like to his pals?
I would hope. So, Imean that's what that's what you would

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do. That's what I did,That's what he'd probably do it. I
don't know, that's that's that's betweenhim and his friends. Dude. I
mean, you know, what isa parent? It's a weird fucking thing.
You know, you send them outinto the wild, what do you
know? What do you know whatthey're doing? You don't. It's fucked
up. And I'm sure people arelike, I can't believe you showed your
fourteen year old fucking reservoir dogs.I will say, my kid, you
know, maybe it was a mistake, but he got it. He got

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it, he understood it, heknew what was happening. He gets it.
Did okay? Did you get afeeling of hey, dad, when
is the next one? What areyou gonna show me next? Or was
it like, hey, I'll goback to doing what I do. Yeah,
he's not exactly climbing the walls forthe next one, but he'll watch.
If I say, okay, wellthe next one is this, he'll

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be like, all right, let'sdo it, you know. But we
probably along slowly and carefully with anythinglike that music and other movies. You
know, it's like, you know, after you watch, you got to
think about this era of kid.You know, someone who's in their teens
right now, they've had really amini golden age of film. You think

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about all the Pixar shit, allthe toy stories and the Nemos, and
maybe it's a little bit older thanthat, but then you got all the
Thors and the Iron Man's and thatwhole thing. I mean, that's some
of the best shit out there.As far as cinema and cool for kids.
He's growing up, that's what heknows. He's growing up in a
pretty fucking great era of movie watching, you know. And then if you're

(22:25):
throwing some older shit lion King andall that stuff, it's like, wow,
everything's awesome. So you know,I mean, these kids now or
they got some good shit out there. Yeah, I'm just wondering if he's
gonna be bugging you to say,hey, where's kill Bill? Let's go
do that again? Man, thatwas awesome. Man, I want to
see the next thing. I wantto see more from this guy. Yeah,
I mean, well we'll get there. It'll be a slow walk.

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You know, we're not going todive right back into it. But yeah,
it just was weird. And youknow again it's weird. How like
I was more uncomfortable with the twodifferent references to sucking dicks and all that
shit that I was the murder ofthe shooting, the crime, I'm like,
the fuck And it just got methinking like, man, we're fucked
up this backwards. Um, maybeyou could, you know, Father's Day's

(23:12):
coming up, maybe you could sitaround. I've got some old VHS's of
faces of death. Maybe you couldwatch them and the crack that monkey's skull
open and then eat his brains.You're gonna sit down with Henry and watch
that. Nah, there's no storythere. Kind if you don't borrow the
tapes, I might end up watchingit with London. So maybe you know,

(23:33):
well, that's what that's. Butthat's what that's. That's your future,
dude. Like you got to figureout when is the time that is
right for certain things in your child'slife, right, you know? And
and and you know, my wifebrought it up, and I'm like,
I was the guy. It's weirdbecause most people would assume I'm the guy
that's gonna push for that. AndI was like, man, I don't
know that's I don't know. That'sa lot, dude. And and she's

(23:55):
like, what fuck man, he'sbeen watching these other movies, Jesus,
what's the difference. I'm like,well, you do. I don't want
to tie that stuff out. Sothere was It was last year Tessa came
over here, my co host,and she was hanging out with London for
an hour or two, and uh, and I came home and The Wizard
of Oz was on, and Iwas like, ah, too soon,

(24:15):
man, too soon. You know, you don't want to You don't want
to show somebody something, introduce himto something, and they're not ready for
it yet, right at some point. I mean, I think all little
kids think Wizard of Oz is awesome, and I think you got to kind
of find that right spot to likekind of jump in. It's a little
different having an only child, becauseyou know, you get introduced to stuff

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and buy older siblings and things.But when you got that only child,
it's kind of up to us whenyou know you're gonna introduce him to it.
And that's I know that's Tessa's favoritemovie, and I just I just
it was London was four. Isaid, nah, man, that's too
soon, too soon. You don'twant her to watch something and just think

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it's not cool and then not wantto watch it again. So I haven't
really put it on for her sinceit's been a year. I don't know
where that Wizard of Oz window is, you know, because you know you're
you're worried about a Quentin Tarantino moviebeing old, this fucking things from the
forties. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's it's got it's it's got

(25:22):
its place, you know, Imean you've still got that whole ride.
I mean, I don't know howfar you are when all the picks are
the toy stories, if you watchedall five of those, if are you
guys the Nemos of the world,have you have already done all those or
that we have. It's funny,like you know, Aunt Sue loves Nemo
and she's constantly like trying to getLondon to get into Nemo and it's not

(25:44):
her jam, you know, likeit's not her jam. Like I like,
I would like to sit down andwatch Finding Nemo. And you know,
we've watched Molana a million times andobviously every kid goes through. I
mean, where was Henry on theon the uh let it go snow Queen
Frozen? So where was he whenFrozen was out? He was god,

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he was young? Yeah, yeah, no, he was. He was.
He was fairly young, and like, you know, we went and
saw it. I'm thinking, wow, you know, how bad it can
it be? And he, youknow, in it like six or whatever
age he was. It was veryold. He's like, ah, man,
I don't want to go see that. Oh yeah, okay, And
I you know, we're very carefulabout like nah, man, it's all

(26:30):
good. You can watch a girlyass movie. It's totally fine. And
I don't say it like that tohim, but you get the idea.
And we went and saw it andI was like, holy shit, it's
a great fucking movie. Man,Like I'm tearing up there and let it
go. The first time I sawhim, like, oh my god,
this is amazing, you know,girl power and shit, and he's just
like, uh, yeah, thatwas pretty cool. It's okay. So
then it comes out on you know, you know, three months later or

(26:51):
six months later, it's on youknow, cable or whatever. So my
wife's like, hey, you wantto watch Frozen again. He's like,
nah, I'm out. Okay.Yeah. So he didn't necessarily like it,
and he's honest about it, youknow, but he saw it,
and you know, he thought itwas cool. It was fine. It
just wasn't his thing. You know. My kid definitely identified and I you
know, careful how you say thesethings, because everyone's gonna say, well,

(27:15):
you know, in this day andage, go fuck yourself. I
didn't push my kid into princesses andwanting princesses dresses and mermaids. I didn't
push my kid into that. That'swhat she gravitated towards. It's like,
you want to watch Frozen, Okay, let's watch Frozen. Well, guess
what she wants. A frozen dress, she wants frozen toys, she wants

(27:37):
all that shit. Then it wasMolana and you know, and then it
was Rapunzel. So it's these femalelead characters that was that were very attractive
to her. And it wasn't untila little bit later that there's a movie.
It's a I guess it's an onlyDisney plus at Luca and I don't
remember what ever being out at thetheaters, but you know, it's primarily

(28:00):
dudes, and and she really reallyliked it. But before that she was
identifying with these princesses for sure.Yeah. But what's great about it is
those are all movies with very strongfemales in it. So it's not like
you're not you don't watch Barbie andshit where it's like just dopey bullshit,

(28:21):
you know what I mean? Likethis this is okay in my opinion,
you know. And and I've seenI Got Nieces all. My son's been
subjected that ship back in the day. So yeah, anyway, um,
it gets weirder man because and asyou get older, you're like, oh,
is this time for this movie?Can we do the PG thing?
You know? Years ago? Thesame problem, but it was different.
He was younger. We were lookingfor a movie that was like fun.

(28:44):
You know, what are you gonnawatch? After a while you run out
of movies you do. So we'relooking at and we were talking about Big
Tom Hanks, right, you knowthat movie's funny, a little kid trapped
in a man's body. I'm like, oh shit, he could relate to
that. That would be a kindof a fun anything. And he's probably
like, I don't know, eightor nine. Yeah, Well, PG
back then meant something different than PGtoday, and we learned the hard way.

(29:08):
They're like, oh shit, there'sa couple things in that movie that
aren't exactly ready. PG was differentback then. Has he seen Jaws?
Not yet? Actually no, whichis weird because he loves to surf and
all that shit. I'm afraid it'sgonna fuck him up. Bro. I
was five. I saw him inthe theater when it came out seventy five.

(29:33):
It came out in the summer ofnineteen seventy five. I'm five years
old. I probably told this storyalready a hundred times. But my mom
took my sister to the movies,and then my dad took me to the
Riviera north Tonawanda, right, AndI remember getting home and my dad was
so pissed. It's like the kidwent pissed. Fifteen times. My dad

(29:56):
didn't see any of the movie.Every time I heard Dad, I gotta
go to the bathroom. I wasso afraid, and I beg to go
to the movies. I beg andmy dad was so pissed he had to
take me to the potty. Whathe said thirteen times? Five years old
seeing Jaws, it might have beenbad. Now. I know you guys

(30:17):
spend a lot of time at thebeach. Are you keeping that from him?
Does he know about it? Doeshe know what it is? Oh?
Yeah, yeah, he totally knowsit. In fact, we've seen
there's another shark movie called the Meg. It's not bad. He's seen that
a couple of times, so hedoesn't give a shit. He gets sharks,
Okay, that's very rare that humansget attacked, so he doesn't really
think about that. But I justwonder, with that fucking kid up now,

(30:41):
or was that just us in theseventies. You know, I guess
maybe it would. Why don't youmake that your next movie? We probably
will because the summertime, it's likewe go to the beach. I'm like,
yeah, Jaws has got to beon our list. You know,
we're starting to We've been slowly introducingthe old classics, and some of it
works. Some of it doesn't hitit because the pacing and the slowness.
A lot of that shit, it'slike, Jesus, what are you guys

(31:02):
doing back then? I'm like,well, we had nothing else to do.
It was kind it was kind ofcool with a pacing being slower back
then. Oh my god, Ilove Jaws. There was a Jaws toy
that we had. I mean,I was obsessed, even though I was
It's the same thing when we talkedabout kiss I was afraid of them,
but I love double Jaws. Iwas so afraid. We wouldn't go in
our pool. We had an eighteenfoot round pool. Jaws is fucking twenty

(31:26):
five feet. My Dad's like,getting the goddamn pool or I'm tearing it
down. That's a twenty five footshark. It's an eighteen foot pool.
He won't fit get in there.We didn't want to swim. Yeah,
no, I was the same man, because I remember swimming too, and
I'm like looking around, like,all right, I'm always afraid because,
like you know, you close youreyes under water, and I'm always afraid
if I open them there's a fuckingshark mouth right there waiting for me.

(31:48):
Yeah. That movie really gotten people'sheads. Man, Like, believe me,
I get out there in the ocean, and I love swimming in the
ocean. I have no problem withit. But I'm only gonna go so
deep. You ever see those guyswho go way the funk out and you're
like, why aren't you way outthere? That's dumb. That's where the
sharks are, you know what Imean. Don't go out there, you
idiot. You're gonna fucking be asnack, you know, stay in where

(32:09):
you get at least get a fightingchance to get the shore before they fucking
eat your face. So Rod,it's the World Blood Donation Day, World
blood donor Day. You can doit. Yeah, I will. I
have donated in the past quite afew times, actually, and I never
used to like the old blood thing, you know, And even when I

(32:30):
go to just get you know,to the doctor to get the blood drawn.
I won't look. I won't look. No, I don't enjoy it.
Look away, I look away.I'm like, okay, go ahead,
that's it. They'll see me WinCEa little bit. They're like,
come on with all these tattoos.I'm like, I don't care drying blood.
It's weird to look at it.It's weird. I don't enjoy it.

(32:52):
Um, you know. And thenwhen you get some other things tested,
you know, they got to takea couple of extra and vials on
my shit. I'll tell you though, the giving of the blood there because
I go for I go to thetestosterone place. So they got to do
every since you got too much?Is that the problem? Rod? You
gotta get some of that drained off. I go to the testoster place to

(33:12):
get some drained out of me.So did you know did you know that
a person that sticks you is aphlebotomist? I have heard that, yes,
okay. I learned that during thepandemic when I heard an interview with
Josh Todd, the lead singer ofBuck Jerry. He became a phlebotomist and

(33:34):
he was doing that for work.Nobody was making any money during the pandemic
if you were in a band.Wow, So I didn't know this.
I'll tell you what. There's agal over at the Testosterone Place Center Genics
who inquired about possibly sponsoring this podcast. She absolutely is an angel with the

(34:00):
needle in her hand. It's unbelievablehow she finds the vein. There's people
that are good at it, andthere's people that blow at it. Yeah,
and it's crazy how good she hasat it. It's so it's like
butter. And then you got somepeople it's like it's like fuh Yeah,
they get like a running start,like with a javelin. Yeah, from

(34:21):
across the room. You're like,oh, what the hell, lady,
easy? Yeah, given, blood'sa great thing. I'll leave it at
that. If you can, youshould. It's a really really good thing.
Every year, on June fourteenth,World Blood Donor Day raises awareness and
to the importance of donating blood.And that's always the first thing that we

(34:46):
tell people on the radio when somethingwhen the ship hits the fan in some
area, like, man, whatcan I do right now? I go
believe it or not give blood?Yeah, I believe it or not give
blood. That's a huge thing thatyou can do right now. There's there's
times when the Blood Bank, willyou know, put out a like an
APB to all the Media's like,man, we are so unbelievably low right

(35:08):
now. We need help. Sothat's it. That's the PSA on that
so World Blood Donor Day. Iasked Jason, I said, what about
some blood songs. I'm like,yeah, I just started writing and writing
and writing and writing. Yes,there's so many great ones. All right,

(35:31):
well that's great songs. Let's gothrough our top five. But first,
I want to tell you about therod Ryan show Care's store. It's
back online. You want a badassshirt like the Ryan rod is showing right
now. It says, h ohyou it's very cool. I was assuming
that means Houston. Yeah, doesn'tgo a little like the STP logo.

(35:53):
It's cool. I like it.Oh yes, wow, nice job stealing
that, I mean tribute attributing tothe STP logo. I like that.
It's got the Ringer shirt and Ringershirts. I don't know. I always
liked the old school seventies Ringer shirts. Man, those are badass. So
go to the rod Ryan Showcare storeback online, all new summer merch including

(36:15):
the hou STPP tribute shirt. Theygot cozies, they got stickers, they
got a bunch of cool stuff.Man, Rod's a doing some great work
here, raises money to purchase backpacksfor kids in the Houston area who obviously
need them. And they're working againwith the Houston Children's Charity, trying to
out due last year. In betweengetting the testosterone drained out of his veins,

(36:38):
He's gonna try and beat one hundredand one thousand dollars in passing out
over thirty five hundred filled backpacks safesecure shopping now on the world famous Rod
Ryan Show page at the buzz dotCalm. Very cool shirts, dude,
I do like them, and Iwill be doing some shopping stores open for

(37:00):
a while, I'm hoping, becauseI haven't done it yet today and I
won't be don't doing it tonight,but this weekend I'm gonna do some shopping.
Dude. I need some new shots. I do. I kind of
get some damn new shirts and whynot help out a pal for a good
cause and get to that one hundredand one wolf. That's a lot of
money. Thousand dollars, Damn,dude, that's you're crazy. But that's

(37:21):
awesome, great work right there.So I had a little issue with these
blood songs. I gotta be honest. At first, I'm like, and
you know, when you when you'reon the clock, it's like you know
when you watch Jeopardy at home,you're like, I'd kill But then when
you get put on the hot seatsomeone ask you a question, like you
go blank. I kind of didthat with this list until I started cheating
and doing a little research. Iran it by a few people at the

(37:43):
station and I just said, hey, give me, give me a blood
song. I saw him with bloodin the title, and it wasn't easy
for people. I mean, Sunday, Bloody Sunday, that's a good one,
and then bad Blood Taylor Swift.I'm trying to think what us I
heard in the hallway, but itwasn't. I mean, you're on the

(38:05):
spot, you know. It's like, I think we've done maybe Fire.
I think we've maybe done the Sun. We've done some different other themes,
which I really really like this.I love doing these theme lists. I
didn't think. I mean, thematerial is great, the fucking songs are
great. It's awesome to write asong about blood. There's great songs about

(38:27):
blood, Yeah, there is.There's a really good ones. And I
didn't even get into like the weirdlike deep cuts from probably like I'm sure
Rob Zombies got songs about blood.I didn't really dig into the deep cuts
on any of the Rob Zombie orthe Marilyn Manson shit. I kind of
didn't go there. I just wentfor normal ish songs and bands. You
want to go first, yeah,sure, I'll go first. I don't

(38:47):
think I've gone first in a while. Very difficult to put this list together.
My favorite Lincoln Park song is bleededOut. Damn, that's a good
song to it, Like, um, I think it's my fas it is
my favorite Lincoln Park song. MikeShinoda sings most of it, you know,

(39:10):
and he's not so much even wrappingit. He really sings on that.
Yeah, him and Chester are justabsolutely brilliant on it. I'm not
a lyric guy, but pull thepin in the grenade and make it a
dirt dance floor again, and fuck, I mean it's like Mike Shinoda is
an awesome lyricist as well. Ithink, I mean, I know,

(39:31):
crawling and those are like the biggestLincoln Park songs. I don't if if
you had aliens come to this planetand they said, well, what do
you what's this Lincoln Park thing?That's a song you can play them,
It's like, oh, that's LincolnPark. I think it's just a great
representative of the band. And atnumber four, Concrete Blonde blood Letting,

(39:57):
the vampire stripper song. So good, that's the song has come up before.
Did we do vampire songs or somethingor I don't. I broke Concrete
Blond up before on this show.And unless we did a list about stripper
songs, it's a great strip wouldhave been a New Orleans song because they

(40:20):
do mention going down to New Orleansa bunch of times in so it's it's
a New Orleans song, and itclearly is a blood song. Blood Letting
is the name of the song.If it's a great stripper song, stripper
song. And at number three,my favorite Blue October song, Bleed Out.
Okay, I don't know that one. Let's take oh my, it's

(40:45):
so great. It's written from thestandpoint of the wife. He's singing it,
but it's the words that his wifeis saying to him, and it's
just it really is. Um,I mean, Justin Furstenfeld is a great
singer. He's an amazing lyricist.He's an amazing singer. Um, it's

(41:07):
my favorite bl October song. Bleedout number three, okay, number two,
if you want blood, ac DC, id M, that's a good
one. Scott Baby, fucking Scott. Damn. That's good. That's good.
You remember do you remember Empire Records? Yeah? The movie right,

(41:29):
yeah, yeah, Lived Times init and the dude that runs the store,
he goes shut the door. He'splaying the drums, and then the
guys singing and they's they're dancing andthey're kind of like lip syncing it in
the back room. Yeah, ifyou want blood, you got it.
Ac DC in it. Two andnumber one. I had to man,
Sabbath, Bloody Sabbath, nice blackSabbath number one. It I knew it

(41:53):
was gonna be on my list.I listened to it. I'm like,
fuck number one number Like I putit on the guitar heads, I'm like,
fuck that wins. What is what'sgonna be a better blood song than
that? Yeah? Actually, that'sthat's pretty damn good. Actually, saventh

(42:16):
Bloody Sabbath Okay, so so,I said in the beginning of the podcast,
it will have two songs. Ithought we would have two. We
had one. We have one.We only have one duplicate on our list,
and you'll probably be surprised at whichone it is. Um, damn,
that's a good list. So wow, this is crazy all right?

(42:36):
Um Number five for me. There'sthis great band out of New Orleans.
They haven't done anything recently, butback you know, mid two thousand,
twenty ten, twenty twelve, there'sa band called Mute Math and they had
some national hits. Right. Theygot a great song called blood Pressure.
Fucking great, badass Mute Math.Blood Pressure. It came out in twenty
eleven. Check it out. It'sfucking great. What I mean. I

(43:00):
know bands hate this, but we'renot asking them. I'm asking you what
is Mute maths ount Mike shit.They got a modern sound, but they're
throwing some guitars in there, youknow what I mean. It's I don't
know, is it like twenty fiveguys on stage like the Revivalists? No,
no, no, no, it'sa very It's actually like two or
three dudes. It's not a lotof people in the band. Yeah.

(43:21):
In New Orleans, and again theydo a lot of great they're producing other
guys now and they're doing other shit. But yeah, mute math, blood
Pressure. Check it out. That'syour homework assignment. You're gonna dig the
song. Oh okay, that's anumber five, number four. Wow,
another New Orleans band. I reallykind of did it up tonight man better

(43:42):
than Ezra. Great song called inthe Blood. That's kind of nothing to
do. I don't think with blood, but that's the name of the song
in the Blood from their deluxe albumJust a great song was a hit,
big hit for them. Good wasfirst. In the Blood was their second
single, ninety six that came outor so better than Ezra number four,
it's I mean it's it's better thangood. Good was a much bigger hit

(44:07):
for them. But in the blood'sa better song. I mean it's a
way better song. Yep, yepby a mile. I mean, Good
was super catchy and that's what gotthem out of the gate. And that's
what they you know, that's whatwas, you know, butter in their
bread. But man, that wasa really strong follow up single. Yeah,
great song in the Blood better thanEzra, that was number by four,

(44:29):
very good number three, Concrete Blonde, blood Letting the vampire song.
Nice. Now, let me givesome context. Okay, we did talk
about this, and I can't rememberit was stripper songs or what it was,
but you brought it up, andI'm like, oh shit, you're
right. You'd hear that it likeall the dirty bars in New Orleans.
Back in the day you couldn't goto into a bar in New Orleans.

(44:50):
I hearing that song somewhere some atleast once a night, you'd hear it.
And all the shitty bars we usedto hang out at, right,
Yeah, And I'm like, fuck, that's right, they do, guy,
and to talk about New Orleans.So we do. We do a
nineties feature on Fridays here at thestation in New Orleans, and I play
that song every other week after sevenpm. Dude, I don't play it
in the middle of the fucking noon. I'm playing that song on the radio

(45:14):
because of this podcast. I startedplaying again occasion Elite at night. But
you know what, it fucking soundsgreat on the radio, dude. It
just sounds great. Is anyone elsein the country playing it? Probably not?
Should I be playing it? Probablynot? I'm gonna I'm gonna probably
butcher her last name, but Johnette, Napolea Tino, Yeah, napole Aptano

(45:36):
and something like that. Yeah,yeah, it's in there, so sexy,
unbelievable voice. Their biggest hit,not their best song, but their
biggest hit was Joey Yep, andit had a very pop sound to it.
Maybe their best song is Heal ItUp, which she just wails on
that song, Johnette. I believeshe lived in New Orleans for a while,

(46:02):
so she definitely got like some localinfluence. I believe she did live
there for for a period of time. Man, she was awesome. She
was a fucking force. Man,her vocals. It was how we look
at Amy Lee of evan essence,like she had a voice on her like
that power. Yeah. Well,you know when you listen to that song,

(46:22):
it's vampires, that's New Orleans,New Orleans. That's New Orleans.
So yeah, you can see theinfluence there. Um that was three.
Oh shit, I'm gonna renumber thisnow, come on, I don't want
to be fuck you know what numbertwo Elton John Okay, this is this
is a stretch funeral for a friend. Love Lies Bleeding. It's like a

(46:46):
fucking ten minute song off of GoodbyeYellow Brick Road, and it's awesome.
You want epic. Not a hit, but a great freaking workout song,
like yeah, it's faking great.Yellow Rip Rhad's an amazing album. Yoh,
it's it's awesome. Love Lives Bleeding. I totally forgot about that song.
That's a great tune. Yeah,that's the my number two and again

(47:07):
that's not what I've probably listened toa couple of years, but I'm gonna
listen to it now this weekend.Number one. You two Sunday Bloody Sunday
from War. It's a great fuckingsong, great mass, it's great everything
love it. I probably should havebeen my number one, but I went
with it. Who's not on mylist? I couldn't put Foreigners Hot Bloody

(47:30):
because Jesus really can't listen to thatsong anymore. Ellis Cooper only Women Bleed,
Dude, I love that song.No, it's great. I absolutely
love that song because you know what, I never really felt that Alice Cooper
was a great singer. He's not. Okay, let's just say Alice Cooper
is not a great singer, buthe actually sings on that song, and

(47:51):
he shows that he can sing.M that's a great song. I had
that my my bubbling on songs werebetter than Ezra in the Blood, Only
Women Bleed and the Lowest of theLow. I have been dying to bring
up Lowest of the Low. Iwanted them on my list so bad bleed
a little while tonight off of ShakespeareMy butt might be the first song on

(48:15):
the album Lowest of the Low.I'm gonna say it again, Lowest of
the Low, because I've never saidit on this podcast before, and I
finally had an opportunity, and fuck, I just for fuck's sake, I
couldn't. I couldn't have fit itin my mind. Oh what no way?
I just couldn't. I wanted themin there so bad, and it

(48:38):
just would not have been pure.Yeah, it wouldn't have been pure.
It wouldn't have been right. Whatelse was under what else was bubbling under
the Stones? Let it bleed,great fucking song. I don't know how
that one didn't make it. Thatone probably should have made it. But
I'm like, you know what,I don't need to put the Stones on
another list. I think they've earnedin their deal. They're good. We
got it, we got it.Yeah, No, this is great,

(49:00):
man. I love the idea ofthis. You know what? It brings
me back to do we ever doa Top five Lincoln Park? We're gonna
have to look at our list LincolnPark. Have we've done a top five
Lincoln Part? We must have,right, we must have done a Top
five Lincoln Park, because I can'tremember it at all. We must have.
Yeah, good, there's Bleeding Meby Metallica. Yeah, I just

(49:22):
I don't know the Smithenes Blood andRoses is one of my favorite Smith Reene
songs. Oh yeah that I forgotabout that one, Blood Sugar Sex,
Magic Chili Peppers, just to givethem a mention. Sure, And I
don't remember this song being on theradio. I don't remember it at all.
It wasn't until I got I getinto Pete Townsend for a little while

(49:45):
and just got you know, justpicked up his greatest hits and he does
a song on there called give Bloodand it's really good. It's just it's
weird. It's called give Blood andit I don't know, it's a great
song. You really feel like youneed to go and give love when you're
done work, because that's what we'redoing this for. Blue October Bleed Out.

(50:06):
Dude, if I'm gonna go andlisten to Mute Math blood Pressure,
you have to go listen to BlueOctober bleed Out. All right, I
will, And you know what I'lldo. I'll text you and I'll go,
yeah, it's great, or viceversa. I'm sure it'll be good
because I love I love Blue October. So, dude, I I wanted
to go through this and I foundthis today. It's from loudwire dot Com.

(50:30):
The most pretentious things rock stars havesaid. Then, I just want
to throw it out there just becausewe know that rock stars will say some
dumb shit, right, but alot of it gets taken out of context.
And you know, but when Isay who these guys are, You're
gonna go, well, yeah,of course this is totally that guy,
right, Um, most pretentious thingsrock stars have said over the years.

(50:54):
Bono should have a laundry list ofpretentious things he's said. Well, you
know what, I think he comesfrom a place of I think he has
fun with a lot of this shipthat he says because he's taking the piss
out of himself because he knows he'sa fucking rich rock star. You know
what, I mean he quote Iput curious, I'm curious what the quote

(51:14):
is from him? Well, therewas a bunch I could have chosen from,
but this is this one's pretty good. He says, I put Catholic
guilt to work. Pretty good fora rich rock star bono being from Ireland,
Catholic guilt, rich rock star.I thought it was pretty funny.
But you know people look at thatas a little pretentious. Um, Noel
gallaghersis I mean again, this couldbe a whole fucking book. Uh,

(51:38):
He's And actually, when you thinkabout this, I want to I want
to hear what you think about hisquote, because it's pretty good. Obviously,
they've been compared to the Beatles,not compared to the Beatles, ripping
off the Beatles, you know whatI mean, A Beatles sounded like band
over the years, obviously. Yes. Noel Gallagher from Oasis says with every
song that I write, I comphair it to the Beatles, and he

(52:02):
says I've got semi close once ortwice, he says, Live Forever.
I suppose maybe don't look back inAnger one of those songs, he says,
I got semi close to the Beatleswith those songs, The thing is
they only got there before me.If I'd been born at the same time

(52:25):
as John Lennon, I'd have beenup there. Wow, dude, Like
I was with him up until thatpart, Like, yeah, maybe he
did get close to a really goodBeatles esque song Live Forever's great, don't
look him back, don't look backin anger, He's close, And that
was okay with that part of it. But saying that if he was in

(52:47):
a time machine and if he backthere he was in his time, Yeah,
that's a little bit bullshit because hewas influenced by John Lennon. Of
course he was. And John Lennonprobably has the most sentious quote of all
time, right, I mean,I mean, I mean, is this
thing one through ten, one throughtwenty. I mean just just I picked

(53:07):
a couple, just interesting ones Ithought were pretty pretty cool, you know,
Yeah, the whole one about JohnLennon famously said that the Beatles were
more popular than Jesus, right,Um, which next, here's what I
meant, Here's what it meant.Whatever. Nineteen sixty six. Man,
let me tell you people that hitpeople wrong, that hit people. I

(53:30):
mean, you know, Kanye probablydid say it, for all I know.
But yeah, yeah, that wasprobably the most pretentious, out there
rock star quote of all time.And it was funny is because when he
said it, you know, he'skind of right. They were super popular
and stuff. I mean at thetime where they were in sixty six that

(53:52):
you know, the way that theworld was infatuated with them, right,
I bet you're from their seats,it looked like were more infatuated with than
than Jesus. So yeah, hehe wasn't wrong, But man, what
a what a hell of a thingto say. Yeah, that that got
that kind I'm in huge trouble PeteTownsend from the who this is Pete Townsend

(54:13):
saying quote, even as age humblesme, it feeds my arrogance. There's
still nothing that interests me as muchas myself. Wow, you know what
I mean at the end of theday, Really, couldn't we all say
that in a way about ourselves?I mean deep, guess you know what
I mean? Like, Okay,and he is Pete Townsend. He's done

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some pretty cool shit, so youknow, he's kind of be an honest
in a way. I just Ijust used a William Corgan line this week
on the radio. Wow is heon here, Billy Corgan, I did
not put any issue on here.No, So I'm going to paraphrase.
He said that back in his time, he's said Kurt was the best.

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He said Kurt was the most talented. He brought up John Lennon when he
talked about Kurt Cobain and he said, after Kurt, I blew everybody away.
Now, I mean, Billy Corganis wickedly talented, and he's an

(55:22):
amazing songwriter. You know, hissinging is an acquired taste, right,
but it works for what he does. But think about after Kurt left,
did you ever think now it's Billy? Did you? I mean, did

(55:42):
you ever think that? I mean, I guess, I mean there was
I looked at so many bands asbeing equal, and so many bands at
being at the same level as oneanother. I never there's no doubt that
Kurt was definitely the poster child.But Billy Morgan said that after he died,
I blew everybody away. It's weirdhearing him say that, Yeah,

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that's not something you should be said. That's what you let listeners say.
That's that's for everyone else to talkabout, you know what I mean,
That's not for you to talk about. But I remember hearing part of that
quote before and maybe a different interviewwhere he was like, look, I
would hear Nirvana come up with somegreat shit and I'm like, oh,
fuck, I better really go dosome really great ship. I want to
run. He said it was almostlike the whole Iron Sharpen's Iron thing.

(56:30):
You know, it wasn't a competition, but he kind of viewed it as
that at times. And you knowif he thought that in the moment,
that would be weird. Looking back, maybe he could say something like that,
you know what I mean, Like, yeah, I mean if you
look back at it historically, youknow when did Kurt die? Was at
ninety four? I should know this, Yeah it was ninety four. Well,

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what comes out in ninety five wasmelancholy in the infinite sadness of smashing
pumpkins blow up. So if youlook at it from a statistical standpoint,
what came out, I guess hewouldn't be wrong in that moment. But
that is a lot to say.That's a lot to say, dude,
lawns smashing pumpkins. Billy Corgan sayshe lost his greatest opponent when Kurt Cobain

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died I want to beat the best. I don't want to win the championship
because it's just me and a bunchof jabronies. Actually, you know what,
I don't think that comes from aplace of him trying to be a
dick. I think in his mindat the time, that's what was happening.
Like I just talked about, youknow, it was he looked at

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it as a competition in a way, and you don't want to ever win
because the other team forfeits, becausethat sucks. The trophy is tainted.
It's not the same. You know. I can see what he's doing there.
It does sound like a dick thingto say. But does he blow
everybody away? I don't know.I mean there's a lot of good music
that came out after that, youknow, the mid nineties, late nineties,
great ship. I mean, GreenDay wasn't exactly putting out nothing.

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Yeah, you know, I meanthere's a laundry list anyway. Lars from
Metallica said some shit over the years, but this one, I'm gonna say
it and then I want to Iwant to talk about it. Um.
Lars from Metallica says, quote,every time we put a record out,
we lose people that can't deal withthe growth. I'm not mad at that.

(58:25):
I'm totally fine with that, becauseyou know what, you can't just
be keep putting out the Black albumover and over again. It people,
you guys seoled up, you know, the whole Metallica thing. It's like
people get pissed off. They've gottenThey've changed as musicians over the years.
They stay in their lane basically,but their songs have changed, their style
has changed. You grow, youlearn, right, I mean, I

(58:47):
don't mind that one we do.We do a lot of world premieres on
the Morning show. These new songscome out and um, it's it's weird.
You'll put on a song and ifthe band sounds true to what they
they've done. Food Fighters really soundslike the Food Fighters, it's good.

(59:07):
People are really connecting with the lyrics, you know. You know some people
are like man, it's just youknow, boy, he's got that formula.
Like man, that's kind of whatworks for them. Though. And
then if he was to put outsomething different like thirty seconds to Mars,
thirty seconds to Mars, Jared obviouslyput out something that sounded different and it

(59:32):
didn't get It did not get thereception. You know, people want kings
and queens or whatever. You know, it's hard for a band. I
talk about that in interviews from timeto time. I think I mentioned that
to the guys in I think Imentioned that to the guys in Highly Suspect.
I said, you know, I'mgonna I go. My compliment for

(59:52):
you is I feel that with eachalbum, when that you guys are putting
out, you're drawing just just enoughfrom what you have already done, and
there's clearly there's growth there. AndI said, I think you guys maybe
have the best balance I've heard overa four or five album span. You

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can always tell obviously you're gonna recognizeJohnny's voice and stuff. But I feel
they have some sort of a formulawhere it's like, Okay, start with
our first album. Next album,we're gonna lose ten percent, and we're
gonna add a new ten percent sound, and then the next album, we're
gonna add another ten, lose aten odd of ten. Well, now

(01:00:35):
you're twenty percent different from the firstalbum. They have come up with this
formula, and I think they've doneit better than anybody over the span of
the last maybe eight years. Well, look, look what happened to the
hair metal They kept making the samealbum Yeah, kept making the same albums
over because that was the cash.Kyle, Oh wow, we fucking made
money. Okay, the next albumwill have a heavy song, it'll have
a cheesy ballad, and we'll putthe same fucking album out over and over

(01:00:58):
again. And that's what really howkill a lot of the hair bands you
know in the day, they're makingthe same shit over and over again.
It's hard to do because you wantto stay true and you want to keep
your fan base, but then youknow, you always want to do different
shit as a band. You know, the thirty seconds to Mars song.
I don't love it, I don'thate it. I applaud them for doing
so. Yeah, we're playing ita little bit. Yeah yeah, not

(01:01:21):
a lot. We're playing it.It's okay. It's not gonna be a
monster, but it's doing okay onthe charts and everything. You know,
I'm hoping for something a little more, you know, traditional thirty seconds to
Mars. It's tough because you wantto see a band change, but then
like you don't want them to gotoo far, you know what I mean,
Like, as a fan, youlike the Food Fighters. Yes,

(01:01:43):
as soon as you start playing thosenew songs, I'm like, oh shit,
that's the Food Fighters. But it'sstill good and it's got a fresh
sound to it. But when Iwant them to make the song the Teacher,
which is ten minutes long and itgoes it's like a Pink Floyd song,
goes all over the damn place.Do I want that from The Food
Fighters every time? No? Butit was cool to hear it as an
album, cause like, oh,okay, that's cool. They did something

(01:02:05):
different. I remember remember when theyreleased Run. Yeah, I loved it.
I mean, and there was timesit was heavy and Dave was doing
like his best Pantera in that song, you know. But then it got
attic, you know, and thatwas different. But it was a journey,
you know. But that song justwasn't it wasn't a radio song.
But it was a great song.It was the first release you know that

(01:02:28):
it was showing it, Hey,we can do other things too. Um.
Yeah, it's difficult for a band. So when Lara's when Laras says
that, I don't mind that quoteat all, and and I was so
happy when Luxe Turner came out.I said it that was the most excited
I've been about Metallica in thirty years. Easily. Yeah. Yeah, because

(01:02:51):
it's like, okay, great it'sMetallica. Um two more boy, I
think you already know how this one'sgonna go. Gene Simmons, geez christ,
everything he says is dumb. Itseems like God, it's such a
douche. He's intelligent, but it'sjust like he's so, he's so.
There's nobody up there ass more thanGene Simmons. And here's the quote.

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Gene Simmons says, quote, Iam fascinated with myself and love hearing the
sound of my own voice. I'dlike to hear what I have to say.
A lot of people don't like beingalone because they truly don't like themselves.
But I love me. And thereyou go. That's Gene Simmons.
He's given people what they want tohear. Yes, he is a formula

(01:03:34):
guy. He knows where the breadis buttered. Yeah, he knows that.
He knows how to get a quoteout there for sure. What's tough
with with Kiss and with Gene andPaul is that you really would like him,
like to sit down if you're gonnado an interview with you, either
one of them, like a reallike you got an hour you'd almost want
to go. Okay, guys,look, don't give me all your bullshit

(01:03:59):
answers. And they'll never do that, never do it. But like,
let me just talk to you likea human being in strip off. You
know, when you took your mask, you your makeup off, and you
went out there raw. Let's dothat with talking now. Okay, guys,
let's just talk. I want toreally hear what you want to say.
Don't give me a Stern got asclose as anybody ever has to an
interview like that, the one thatyou're talking about. Stern came close,

(01:04:23):
but they still gave their fucking cannedanswers and stuff. You know, well,
we're here. We do it forthe fans, and we got to
do it for the fans. Iknow they love their fans. I got
it. You know, there's nobody'sever going to question Paul that you love
that you don't love your fans.But if you go back and listen to
the Stern interview, he got somestuff out of them because he's got the

(01:04:45):
platform to do it, you know, sure, and he's built the trust
over the years, so people feela little safer talking to him about deeper
shit. All right, and onemore and then I'm done. This is
actually really cool. Jim Morrison andthe Doors said, WoT I see myself
as a huge, fiery comet,a shooting star. Everyone stops, points

(01:05:08):
up and gasps, oh, lookat that. Then whoosh, and I'm
gone and they will never see anythinglike it ever again, and they won't
be able to forget me ever.Fuck. I mean, that's a little
pretentious and a douche thing that hewas the Lizard King. What the fuck
does that mean? They can allbe winners, They can all be winners.

(01:05:30):
Yeah, I mean, what wasthe on when he said that?
Everything? See that's that See youcould almost immediately Oh Jim Morrison said that.
Okay, well fuck any number ofdrugs or alcohol was was in his
system when he said that. Absolutely, I think about fucking Gene Simmons.
He was stone fucking cold sober whenhe made that line. Yeah, that's

(01:05:54):
true, but he didn't have anything. He had fucking apple juice. Oh,
man had apple juice running through hisveins when he said that, apple
juice and Krispy Kream's just flowing throughthat body, right, Yeah, for
a shot of metal Musel, He'slike, all right, roll tape,
I got some lines for you.He might have just climbed the stairs,
so he's a little lightheaded, youknow what I mean. He expects it,

(01:06:17):
but you know what Jim Morrison's quote, Yes, he was probably fucked
up, but he's kind of right. You know. You think about how
his legend still goes on after allthat time. I mean, it's a
weird thing to say about yourself,you know what I mean. But I
guess he saw it. I don'tknow. Those are just some weird quotes
from rock stars. Any final thoughts, rod Um, Yeah, this week

(01:06:44):
I got Hulu. I'm paying moremoney. I'm paying more fucking money for
cable, but I'm getting rid ofApple TV, which I haven't done yet,
but I have to. I justcan't make sense of it in my
mind to get at all these streamingservices. So I feel like I'm maxed
out. So one's going out?Who lose in? And because I worked

(01:07:08):
so long in the kitchen, Iwanted to see that show The Bear,
but I watched the Jelly Roll documentary, right, holy fuck? I cried
three times, maybe four times duringit. It's so great and you're you
might be saying, well, ishe ready for a documentary? Yeah?

(01:07:28):
Yeah, yeah he is, He'sabsolutely ready. Don't know what you know,
a bottom there's no spoilers, butyou know, most people that know
Jelly Roll, they knew that hewas in and out of institutions. He's
done jail time, he did harddrugs. You know who he is with
the tattoos on the face. Yeah, yeah, he's made some big tattoo
choices, real big, heavy guy. You know, he's so unbelievable.

(01:07:54):
Justin from Blue October is a littlelike this. Think about this. Justin's
been cleaning sober I don't know howmany years, and he really preaches it.
So he's got to listen to peopleeverywhere he goes talk about I'm clean
and sober, you know, andhe's got to talk to him. And
I'm not saying that he doesn't genuinelyenjoy it, because he really does.

(01:08:15):
He's just this unbelievable positive guy.Jelly Roll has to deal with people,
Hey, this girl, her dadkilled mom in front of her. They're
telling Jelly Roll this story and yourmusic saved her life and blah. He's
got to listen to that everywhere hegoes, dude, because he champions mental

(01:08:42):
health and he champions sobriety, eventhough he smokes and drinks, but he
just he was doing hard drugs before. And you know, he lost his
mom to mental illness, and hesings about these things and his fucking lyrics
are resonating with people. And thesong save Me is the one that got
him. You know the YouTube hits, you know the two hundred million,

(01:09:05):
three hundred million hits. It's great, dude, It's unbelievable and just a
hard working guy, been at itfor a long time, and it was
so inspirational, so inspirational. I'mnerdy about documentaries, but give this jelly
roll. You don't have to evenenjoy his music. But man, I

(01:09:28):
cannot see you watching this thing andnot coming away a fan. Damn yeah,
I keep seeing his shit pop up. I listened to a couple of
songs. I'm like, yeah,you know, I'm not going to play
these on the station, But I'mfascinating because I keep seeing he's out there.
He's one of these people that arejust out there all the time,
and I'm like, I gotta takea minute and dive into what this dude's
doing, so now I will now. I mean, you know, Shindown
took him out on tour. Makessense because Brent's a huge recovery dude as

(01:09:50):
well. From let me tell you, jelly Roll fucking is opening for nobody
right now. Okay, jelly Rollboom, it's me New York. How
quickly he has risen? He's playingthe arenas now they're his arenas. Shit.
Yeah, and China. I can'tplay an arena New but Jelly Roll

(01:10:11):
can play in arena now. Damn. That's awesome. Yeah, I'm gonna
take that one up. It's crazy, man. I can't recommend a better
documentary right now. Jason final thoughts, nothing really man, I'm just you
know, it's summertime. It's hotas balls out here in the South,
man. You know what, it'sweird like New Orleans hasn't been hot,

(01:10:31):
Like it's been hot, don't getme wrong, but it hasn't had that
bam switch turned on where it's likeone hundred and ten degree heated decks.
Yeah, we just got it thisweek, and you forget, you forget,
And look, I'm not gonna cryabout it too hard because I work
indoors, you know what I mean. But you still got I spend time
outside a lot running and all thatshit, and ooof you just reminded how

(01:10:55):
fucking hot it gets him the stile. Dude, are you still running?
I took a little time off justbecause I got busy with radio and podcasts
and pirates and all that bullshit.But yeah, I'm back doing it now
again. And uh oh god damn, don't ever stop exercising and then the
restart because it's the worst, becauseit's I mean, obviously you're going.
You're going early in the morning nowbecause yeah, Jason's percent right. It

(01:11:17):
just this week, it just fuckingslapped you in the dick. It feels
like a hundred degrees out. Yeahyeah, I mean it's here in Houston.
Is ninety six ninety seven up eightninety nine, coming up a couple
of days. Yeah, yeah,you just don't you know, Like my
son runs now, and he's alllike gear enough for high school. Man,
he's gonna play some fucking high schoolsoccer. He's gonna join the track

(01:11:39):
team, so he's trying to getin shape. He comes back to their
day after it was like the firsttime, I mean he's been running for
a while. He's in decent shape, but like the heat hit him.
He comes back and he's like standingthere looking at me, like you can
tell there's nobody home behind those eyes. Man, I'm like, oh,
you fucking ran and you didn't drinkenough. I'm like, sit down,
here's some ice. Fucking it's likenose bleeding everything else. I'm like,

(01:11:59):
dude, you gotta fun to becareful out there, bro. And then
we went and watched you know,Reservoir Dogs. So Dad of the Year,
Dad of the Year. I willnot be getting that trophy again this
year. It's been a lot ofyears not getting that trophy, dude.
But maybe next year, you know, maybe next year. Let me do
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(01:12:24):
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(01:12:46):
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Pirates of the Quarter. But everythingand booking your tour when you come into
town, everything is at Pirates ofthe Quarter dot com. And look,
you know it is hot here andI will not pull any punches on that,
so you're gonna sweat on the tour. But we do offer a morning

(01:13:08):
tour at ten am. It ain'tbad out there. Get yourself a coffee,
maybe a real drink, bloody MaryBoom. Join the tour. It's
great. You'll have a blast thatI'm done. I'm out. Maybe we
can get you some real fucking gearfor next week. Yeah, we'll see.
In between having your testosterone drain,which, by the way, it's
probably why you cried for the Jellyrollthing. Maybe you want to not take

(01:13:30):
out so much, go to andget yourself a new board. I want
to put money on this, butyou have to be honest or I'll just
I'll make your wife monitor you thewhole time. You cannot watch the Jellyroll
documentary and not shed one tier.Oh, dude, I will tell you
straight up. I'm like a littlebaby. The older I get, the

(01:13:51):
dude, I will cry at anythingnow, man, I'll fucking I'm crying
here in superhero movies. I'm like, oh my god, Like, I'm
like, what the fuck happened tome? I don't know. Somehow I
got touch with the feelings. Maybemy testosterones being drained out. I mean,
I don't even know it. Youlike, I want to know when
you're watching this, I will callyour wife and I want updates. I
want to know how many times youcried, not just once, not twice.

(01:14:15):
I want to know how many timesyou cried during this documentary? All
right, I'll tell you straight up, dude. What if I gonna fucking
lie? Like, oh god,I mean god damn. Like it's funny
because, like you know, peopleare like, well, you gotta be
honest. I'm like, why wouldn'tI be At this point, I don't
care anymore? Why don't we gonnalie to you? What's in the what's

(01:14:35):
in the game. I'm gonna lie, Yeah, dude, I bawl like
a little bitch. Okay, sowhat Oh I got feelings? Oh no,
Tessa said, she cried less thanme, So she did call me
a little bit of a bitch.Um. But the one email I'll share
in closing, just because I knowhe listens to the pod and I already

(01:14:56):
mentioned him. But Mark Petrocelli,here's a text that came in at eight
thirty six pm. All Right,you jagged off watching the jellyroll doc.
Someone's cutting onions over here and youget called a jag off from a Pittsburgh
guy. It's it's it's coming froma deep, deep place of love.

(01:15:18):
You know. That's that is thatis a term of endearment amongst friends.
You know, you look at ourtext and it's you'd think we fucking hated
each fucking jag off. Thank wehated each other. But you know what
it's. It's all terms of endearment, man, That's what it's all about.
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